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GAA Discussion / Re: DUBLIN V REST OF IRELAND
« on: August 17, 2018, 10:24:52 AM »
That is a seriously stupid article. If we're gonna talk about wasted money, we should start with the Indo.

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What about " We Don't Need Nobody Else" by Whipping Boy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2NqJ8t02Y0

Great tune but incredibly dodgy lyrics (in today's context)

I hit you for the first time today
I didn't mean it
It just happened
You wouldn't let me go to the phone
You wanted to make love and I did not
Now I know the distance between us
Christ we weren't even fighting, I was just annoyed
Silence and you started to cry, that really hurt you said
Yeah and you thought you knew me


At the time they were critical darlings, I remember a big article in the Melody Maker praising their honesty. I don't think you would get away with writing a song from the point of a domestic abuser today. I don't know if that is an advance or not, because it is a great (but difficult) song.



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I remember us destroying Tyrone in a downpour in 2011.

And, to be fair, I remember them destroying us in a similar downpour in 2008.

This will be tighter then people think.

Dubs not the force of before, specifically 2015/2016 which I think will be seen as the high water mark of Gavin's reign.

Still should win here, but whoever comes out of the other semi has a big chance in the final.


Are you sure about that?

2015 beat Mayo by after a replay in the semi final and beat Kerry by 3 point in a drab AI final
2016 Beat Kerry by 2 points in the semi final and beat Mayo by one in the AI final after a replay

Kerry and Mayo are now in transition while I don't think we have seen the best of Dublin yet especially in AI final.

The three point win over Kerry in that "drab" game was our most dominant performance in an All Ireland final this decade (and also our most dominant performance over Kerry)

2016 semi final against Kerry was up there with the 2013 semi as one of the games of the decade - after that, I believe Mayo were unlucky not to get the win in the first game in 2016, and I don't think since then we have produced a performance to match Kerry 2015/2016 (I really think that the semi last year v tyrone was as much them not performing as it was us being good).




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I remember us destroying Tyrone in a downpour in 2011.

And, to be fair, I remember them destroying us in a similar downpour in 2008.

This will be tighter then people think.

Dubs not the force of before, specifically 2015/2016 which I think will be seen as the high water mark of Gavin's reign.

Still should win here, but whoever comes out of the other semi has a big chance in the final.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin V Donegal
« on: July 04, 2018, 02:37:10 PM »
I'm not going to get into the rights or wrongs of Dublin's use of Croke Park or the supposed advantages that it gives - I've done it before, everyone knows each others views on this and there is no need to jump on the carousel.

However, the way this phase of the competition has been formulated is flawed, fatally, I would say. Whatever about the reality of competitive advantages accrued, or the reality that Dublin have the largest support etc etc, the perception of unfairness is as dangerous to the integrity of the competition as actual unfairness.

As was pointed out earlier, Congress makes the rules, and the CCCC implements them but the DCB should make it clear, very quickly, that they are open to any solution that means they play only once in Croke Park during the Super 8 series.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Power struggle within Croke Park?
« on: July 03, 2018, 12:30:49 PM »
Newbridge a kip in 1993? What are you on about? Which other grounds had you been to? It's rundown now in comparison to other grounds but in 1993, it would have been more than acceptable. You take all this in from the pitch? The dressing rooms were too small. Accepted. Rest of it was fine. Relatively speaking.

I was shoved into the wall there in an u21 game in 93 or 94. Bad cess to that poxy wall.

There was warfare at the end of our game there, we had been given a good hockeying by St. Ciaran's and our 17 year old, full stache sporting captain started a load of hassle at the final whistle. One of our selectors  grabbed him, threw him over the wall and dragged him back to the dressing rooms, kicking the door closed behind the two of them.

He definitely thought the dressing room was too small at that stage.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Power struggle within Croke Park?
« on: July 02, 2018, 11:36:31 PM »
Can I just say, whilst I support Kildare's right to play at home, and I'm glad the match went off without a hitch, it is the job of these committees to anticipate risk. The big fear in Croke Park is not that Sky doesn't get the fixture it wants or that they don't sell enough tickets for the All Ireland series - it is that a person or people will be seriously injured whilst on GAA property.

We already know why they stamped out pitch invasions in Croke Park - because every eejit who turned his ankle hopping a barrier was suing the organisation and getting paid. That is not Peter McKenna's money, or Feargal McGill's - that is your money, my money, every member's money.

Worse than that, what happens if a catastrophe occurs in a small stadium with narrow access in front of the stand (which I believe was the case in St. Conleth's)? Or in the Hyde, where there is only one point of egress from the main stand?

The complacency (smugness??) of GAA fans in this respect is hard to credit. We jump on the nearest high horse at the merest suggestion of fan trouble, but events like the Bradford city fire happened because of a dropped cigarette. Crushes and stampedes can happen from someone tripping up in the wrong place, it doesn't take battalion charges of hooligans or hordes of ticketless zombies outside.

So what prevents these events happening? Most of us would like to pat each other on the back and say, well, GAA fans are different from every other sport. The real reason is committees like the CCCC and those who sit on it, making hard decisions and getting very little thanks for it.

They are allowed to get ones wrong (which I think they did in this case, more through poor communications than anything else). But if I'm on a committee and I'm tasked with making decisions where, if the wrong move is made, it could end up with a fan ending up injured, paralysed or dead, you're damn sure I'll stay on the side of caution. Because I don't see anyone else lining up to make those decisions.

And they certainly don't deserve to be portrayed as some sort of aristocratic elite by Madame Gulliotine herself, Ewan McKenna. The same sort of rabble rousing, know nothing, populist crap that is giving nothing to the world but dementia.

Rant over.

Wrong on that part, there is a huge amount of room in front of the stand in Newbridge. In fact there is very little that can be considered a H&S hazard there. The wall and rails around the pitch will not be missed after redevelopment and the dressing rooms are pathetic but in every other department Newbridge is adequate.
Navan on the other hand has a stand that is a lot more dangerous than it's grass banks, I am shocked someone hasn't fell and broke their necks going down it yet. It will make a nice ground when done up. Hopefully they don't do something stupid like make it an all seater.

I haven't been in conleths since i played a schools leinster quarte final there in 93. And it was a proper kip then.

I heard the above quoted as a problem on Off The Ball, so apologies if it is not the case. I don't think the specifics of what is actually wrong witb the place changes the thrust of my arguments above though.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Power struggle within Croke Park?
« on: July 02, 2018, 11:31:45 PM »
Can I just say, whilst I support Kildare's right to play at home, and I'm glad the match went off without a hitch, it is the job of these committees to anticipate risk. The big fear in Croke Park is not that Sky doesn't get the fixture it wants or that they don't sell enough tickets for the All Ireland series - it is that a person or people will be seriously injured whilst on GAA property.

We already know why they stamped out pitch invasions in Croke Park - because every eejit who turned his ankle hopping a barrier was suing the organisation and getting paid. That is not Peter McKenna's money, or Feargal McGill's - that is your money, my money, every member's money.

Worse than that, what happens if a catastrophe occurs in a small stadium with narrow access in front of the stand (which I believe was the case in St. Conleth's)? Or in the Hyde, where there is only one point of egress from the main stand?

The complacency (smugness??) of GAA fans in this respect is hard to credit. We jump on the nearest high horse at the merest suggestion of fan trouble, but events like the Bradford city fire happened because of a dropped cigarette. Crushes and stampedes can happen from someone tripping up in the wrong place, it doesn't take battalion charges of hooligans or hordes of ticketless zombies outside.

So what prevents these events happening? Most of us would like to pat each other on the back and say, well, GAA fans are different from every other sport. The real reason is committees like the CCCC and those who sit on it, making hard decisions and getting very little thanks for it.

They are allowed to get ones wrong (which I think they did in this case, more through poor communications than anything else). But if I'm on a committee and I'm tasked with making decisions where, if the wrong move is made, it could end up with a fan ending up injured, paralysed or dead, you're damn sure I'll stay on the side of caution. Because I don't see anyone else lining up to make those decisions.

And they certainly don't deserve to be portrayed as some sort of aristocratic elite by Madame Gulliotine herself, Ewan McKenna. The same sort of rabble rousing, know nothing, populist crap that is giving nothing to the world but dementia.

Rant over.

Can you provide evidence or links so i can see all these claims in Croke Park over the years?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7769042.stm

That is from 2010 when they started phasing out pitch invasions

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GAA Discussion / Re: Power struggle within Croke Park?
« on: July 02, 2018, 05:31:03 PM »
Also Jinxy, just with regard to Slattery, one of the critical parts of the risk analysis here would have been not only capacity, but how many were expected to turn up. Whilst it was completely out of order for Ned Quinn to suggest Football Factory scenes would ensue if people didn't get tickets, it is completely valid to have a concern that a certain amount of people will travel without them and factor that in to any safety plan.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Power struggle within Croke Park?
« on: July 02, 2018, 05:22:19 PM »
Not really.
We've had the Slattery report which has resulted in reduced capacity in grounds like St. Conleth's.
With the capacity reduced, it is safe to hold games

Absolutely, as was proved on Saturday evening. My point is that this was first and foremost a communications failure (for which Kildare County Board must take some responsibility as well as the CCCC), that such a mistake should not lead to people's reputations being traduced (which has certainly happened) and lastly, I would far rather have someone on the CCCC make such a mistake ten times, than countenance the one time where they let it go and rely on the famed docility of GAA fans, only for someone to be seriously injured or worse.

Making that mistake does not automatically mean you are out of touch with the grassroots. I think the pitchfork and torches element to this is completely overdone (not by yourself BTW Jinxy) and I think it is a proxy fight for other issues such as the Sky deal. Of which there was an awful amount of buffoonish stuff said earlier on in the week.

There was enough inaccuracy and misinformation to go round on both sides during the last week.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Power struggle within Croke Park?
« on: July 02, 2018, 02:49:37 PM »
Can I just say, whilst I support Kildare's right to play at home, and I'm glad the match went off without a hitch, it is the job of these committees to anticipate risk. The big fear in Croke Park is not that Sky doesn't get the fixture it wants or that they don't sell enough tickets for the All Ireland series - it is that a person or people will be seriously injured whilst on GAA property.

We already know why they stamped out pitch invasions in Croke Park - because every eejit who turned his ankle hopping a barrier was suing the organisation and getting paid. That is not Peter McKenna's money, or Feargal McGill's - that is your money, my money, every member's money.

Worse than that, what happens if a catastrophe occurs in a small stadium with narrow access in front of the stand (which I believe was the case in St. Conleth's)? Or in the Hyde, where there is only one point of egress from the main stand?

The complacency (smugness??) of GAA fans in this respect is hard to credit. We jump on the nearest high horse at the merest suggestion of fan trouble, but events like the Bradford city fire happened because of a dropped cigarette. Crushes and stampedes can happen from someone tripping up in the wrong place, it doesn't take battalion charges of hooligans or hordes of ticketless zombies outside.

So what prevents these events happening? Most of us would like to pat each other on the back and say, well, GAA fans are different from every other sport. The real reason is committees like the CCCC and those who sit on it, making hard decisions and getting very little thanks for it.

They are allowed to get ones wrong (which I think they did in this case, more through poor communications than anything else). But if I'm on a committee and I'm tasked with making decisions where, if the wrong move is made, it could end up with a fan ending up injured, paralysed or dead, you're damn sure I'll stay on the side of caution. Because I don't see anyone else lining up to make those decisions.

And they certainly don't deserve to be portrayed as some sort of aristocratic elite by Madame Gulliotine herself, Ewan McKenna. The same sort of rabble rousing, know nothing, populist crap that is giving nothing to the world but dementia.

Rant over.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Kildare v Mayo AI Qualifier Round 3
« on: June 26, 2018, 02:40:47 PM »
I believe Leitrim and Monaghan have offered to play at Croker instead so Sky still get their double header at the one venue.

Tyrone lost home advantage in 2001 and 2002 to Armagh who went on to win Sam.
Can we ask for a reply of that one now too?

It is not being driven by Sky.

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General discussion / Re: No Country for Women - RTE1
« on: June 22, 2018, 10:06:53 AM »
Saw the documentary, it was a really great piece of work, I think.

I loved the approach of using Lavinia Kerwick, not as a narrator or as a guide, but more of a witness to the horrors she and others endured.

Well worth watching the next instalments.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: June 20, 2018, 06:43:00 PM »
I wonder did Trump let Whitey know before this U-turn?

It really is a problem for these Trump apologists - how much Nazi is too much Nazi?

And now Donald Trump is too much Nazi for ...Trump, Donald J!!!

Whitey left holding the swastika covered bag.

A lesson learned by many of his sub contractors...Donald is never left holding the bag.

Hilarious.

But not.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Concerned Gaels
« on: June 20, 2018, 09:51:16 AM »
HQ need to stand their ground on this one. A very small but very loud minority support this politicising of the games. It remains incredibly distasteful to me that these people use the Palestinian cause as a prop to further their own selfish ends.

If anyone wants to pretend that all but a few of these people have any real interest in their plights and it isnít yet another attempt to try to wind up unionists in the north, cop on. Creating divisions rather than trying to bridge them, even in sport.

Just shut up. Please. Shut up and take time to read and understand the sentiments of the people not only in Ulster, but across Ireland  right now.

Choices:

a) allow every politically attuned member of our Association to use the GAA as a vehicle for promoting their politics, and therefore inevitably over time generate negative publicity and infighting.

Or

b) remain politically neutral and concentrate on football and hurling.

ó-

Those who would choose to follow a) are narrow minded, myopic fools.
Spot on.

It is quite difficult ground though guys. Instinctively I'm an option B man - I think it is hugely important for the GAA to maintain at least an appearance of political neutrality, and I spoke out quite vehemently when pro-life GAA members tried to imply that the organisation itself supported that cause. I don't think Concerned Gaels have stepped over that line.

However, as someone who followed and supported the actions taken by Colin Kaepernick and his compatriots in the NFL, the right to protest by athletes should never be taken for granted.

So perhaps the way I thread the needle is that I am hugely opposed that an organisation like the GAA be co-opted by political causes, when it is ostensibly a sporting organisation (and its survival and prosperity in all 32 counties will depend on it appealing to a diverse population).

But I am not opposed to individual athletes or supporters taking a stand or protesting, providing that it is clear that it is a personal stance they are taking or that they are not trying to represent the GAA itself.

That said, it would be a different matter if the GAA were operating in an international sphere. The IRFU did not cover itself in glory during the apartheid years, and I do think that the situation in Palestine at the moment amounts to a form of apartheid.

It is a very difficult line to walk.

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