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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: January 08, 2019, 09:05:57 PM »
So EasyTiger.....you’re telling me that if the number 2 person at Facebook held secret meetings with Trump, shared “research” with him before the election and said that she desperately wanted him to win, you’d be perfectly fine with that?  Just checkin
So Whitey, you're telling me that if an amoral sociopath engaged in a conspiracy with a geopolitical foe/right wing dictatorship, influenced by both financial and sexual kompromat, to win an election, by subverting social media platforms to carry micro-targeted messages to malleable voters, and in the process bringing down or at least actively trying to destroy, in no particular order, the post war western political order, NATO, modern journalism, pluralism, civility, minority groups (including African-Americans, Jewish people and the LGBTQ community), the American constitution, and of course, the planet itself, you'd be perfectly fine with that?

Just checkin.

Man, it must feel good to own the libs.

If that is what the Mueller investigation finds then I’m all for prosecuting those responsible to the fullest extent of the law.......nice deflection by the way

Oh, I learnt from the best. Can't wait for your deflections tonight when your fearless leader tries to declare a national emergency to build his wall. Imagine - a declaration of a non-existent emergency in order to facilitate the building of an imaginary solution to an immigration crisis when immigration at the Mexican border has been at a net deficit for the past two years.

Believe what you want.

Well for one I am not a Trump supporter, though I do support a handful of his ideas

Secondly, I have never advocated building a wall and think it is a ridiculous waste of time and money
Nice wan!! I win tonight's episode of "Whitey Bingo,". Classic..."i am not a trump supporter"
Lol

Belive what you want.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: January 08, 2019, 06:11:17 PM »
So EasyTiger.....you’re telling me that if the number 2 person at Facebook held secret meetings with Trump, shared “research” with him before the election and said that she desperately wanted him to win, you’d be perfectly fine with that?  Just checkin
So Whitey, you're telling me that if an amoral sociopath engaged in a conspiracy with a geopolitical foe/right wing dictatorship, influenced by both financial and sexual kompromat, to win an election, by subverting social media platforms to carry micro-targeted messages to malleable voters, and in the process bringing down or at least actively trying to destroy, in no particular order, the post war western political order, NATO, modern journalism, pluralism, civility, minority groups (including African-Americans, Jewish people and the LGBTQ community), the American constitution, and of course, the planet itself, you'd be perfectly fine with that?

Just checkin.

Man, it must feel good to own the libs.

If that is what the Mueller investigation finds then I’m all for prosecuting those responsible to the fullest extent of the law.......nice deflection by the way

Oh, I learnt from the best. Can't wait for your deflections tonight when your fearless leader tries to declare a national emergency to build his wall. Imagine - a declaration of a non-existent emergency in order to facilitate the building of an imaginary solution to an immigration crisis when immigration at the Mexican border has been at a net deficit for the past two years.

Believe what you want.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: January 08, 2019, 05:56:36 PM »
So EasyTiger.....you’re telling me that if the number 2 person at Facebook held secret meetings with Trump, shared “research” with him before the election and said that she desperately wanted him to win, you’d be perfectly fine with that?  Just checkin
So Whitey, you're telling me that if an amoral sociopath engaged in a conspiracy with a geopolitical foe/right wing dictatorship, influenced by both financial and sexual kompromat, to win an election, by subverting social media platforms to carry micro-targeted messages to malleable voters, and in the process bringing down or at least actively trying to destroy, in no particular order, the post war western political order, NATO, modern journalism, pluralism, civility, minority groups (including African-Americans, Jewish people and the LGBTQ community), the American constitution, and of course, the planet itself, you'd be perfectly fine with that?

Just checkin.

Man, it must feel good to own the libs.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: January 08, 2019, 02:18:44 PM »
People need to realise what free speech and the first amendment actually mean - Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc are all private, commercial forums, subject to user agreement. Their owners have every right under the American Constitution to censor what goes on their own, commercial platforms.

Now, if you wanted to guarantee free speech on these platforms, under the Constitution, you would have to nationalise these platforms. Which is a policy I would support, and, coincidentally, it is really hilarious to see right wing, small government, libertarians being forced to use this argument, thus essentially nullifying their world view of "government - bad! Market - good!"

So, as you can see Dolph, Whitey et al, the "speech police" are actually mall cops. Perhaps you should change where you shop.

These are publicly traded companies that should be enforcing their standards uniformly. What’s good for the left should be good for the right. Their “enforcement” seems to be very one sided and overly restrictive on points of view that are right leaning.In time these platforms will evolve and maybe even face competition from other sources. Eg I now use Twitter much more than Facebook

Facebook has free speech rights as well you know, or don't you remember Citizens United? Online commercial platforms can enforce any editorial line they like, it's there in their user agreements.

The market has chosen Whitey - stop whinging like a snowflake.

BTW a Trump supporter banging on about left wing bias on Facebook, given what all US intelligence bodies have confirmed went on there during the 2016 campaign, is a bit much.

Eh...you.

Absolutely not

I already knew they were biased

If an spokesperson for a publicly traded company knowingly makes materially  false statements they could be charged with any number of violations

Well said, I would say that Zuckerberg was definitely evasive about what they did to combat the use of their platform by Russian and Trump campaign conspirators to push false and misleading stories promoting Donald Trump in the 2016 election.

Pesky right wing bias, eh?


I’m more interested in Sheryl Sandberg having secret meetings with Hillary and handing  over “research” to her campaign


Believe what you want

And I'm interested in unicorns...doesn't make them real.

Love your signature - believe what you want. I suppose that is how you square rigorously supporting a Trumpian, authoritarian agenda without actually supporting him.

There’s a verified email from John Podesta detailing the meeting

Believe what you want

I will believe what I want - the great thing about your stance is that facts and evidence mean nothing. I won't ask you to link to the evidence, or read it to see if what you claimed happen within the meeting actually happened - because you wouldn't ever extend the same duty of care to the truth to anyone else.

So I'll believe that you are a mendacious actor, who won't even fess up to his own political prejudices, whilst displaying all their worst aspects, smug in your rhetorical position but absolutely ignorant of the completely corrosive effect that rhetoric, that you and other trolls employ constantly, has on our societies.

And you can believe whatever you want, because, as we both know, it doesn't really matter either way. It's just the internet, right?

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: January 07, 2019, 04:56:14 PM »
People need to realise what free speech and the first amendment actually mean - Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc are all private, commercial forums, subject to user agreement. Their owners have every right under the American Constitution to censor what goes on their own, commercial platforms.

Now, if you wanted to guarantee free speech on these platforms, under the Constitution, you would have to nationalise these platforms. Which is a policy I would support, and, coincidentally, it is really hilarious to see right wing, small government, libertarians being forced to use this argument, thus essentially nullifying their world view of "government - bad! Market - good!"

So, as you can see Dolph, Whitey et al, the "speech police" are actually mall cops. Perhaps you should change where you shop.

These are publicly traded companies that should be enforcing their standards uniformly. What’s good for the left should be good for the right. Their “enforcement” seems to be very one sided and overly restrictive on points of view that are right leaning.In time these platforms will evolve and maybe even face competition from other sources. Eg I now use Twitter much more than Facebook

Facebook has free speech rights as well you know, or don't you remember Citizens United? Online commercial platforms can enforce any editorial line they like, it's there in their user agreements.

The market has chosen Whitey - stop whinging like a snowflake.

BTW a Trump supporter banging on about left wing bias on Facebook, given what all US intelligence bodies have confirmed went on there during the 2016 campaign, is a bit much.

Eh...you.

Absolutely not

I already knew they were biased

If an spokesperson for a publicly traded company knowingly makes materially  false statements they could be charged with any number of violations

Well said, I would say that Zuckerberg was definitely evasive about what they did to combat the use of their platform by Russian and Trump campaign conspirators to push false and misleading stories promoting Donald Trump in the 2016 election.

Pesky right wing bias, eh?


I’m more interested in Sheryl Sandberg having secret meetings with Hillary and handing  over “research” to her campaign


Believe what you want

And I'm interested in unicorns...doesn't make them real.

Love your signature - believe what you want. I suppose that is how you square rigorously supporting a Trumpian, authoritarian agenda without actually supporting him.


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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: January 07, 2019, 03:59:40 PM »
People need to realise what free speech and the first amendment actually mean - Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc are all private, commercial forums, subject to user agreement. Their owners have every right under the American Constitution to censor what goes on their own, commercial platforms.

Now, if you wanted to guarantee free speech on these platforms, under the Constitution, you would have to nationalise these platforms. Which is a policy I would support, and, coincidentally, it is really hilarious to see right wing, small government, libertarians being forced to use this argument, thus essentially nullifying their world view of "government - bad! Market - good!"

So, as you can see Dolph, Whitey et al, the "speech police" are actually mall cops. Perhaps you should change where you shop.

These are publicly traded companies that should be enforcing their standards uniformly. What’s good for the left should be good for the right. Their “enforcement” seems to be very one sided and overly restrictive on points of view that are right leaning.In time these platforms will evolve and maybe even face competition from other sources. Eg I now use Twitter much more than Facebook

Facebook has free speech rights as well you know, or don't you remember Citizens United? Online commercial platforms can enforce any editorial line they like, it's there in their user agreements.

The market has chosen Whitey - stop whinging like a snowflake.

BTW a Trump supporter banging on about left wing bias on Facebook, given what all US intelligence bodies have confirmed went on there during the 2016 campaign, is a bit much.

Eh...you.

Absolutely not

I already knew they were biased

If an spokesperson for a publicly traded company knowingly makes materially  false statements they could be charged with any number of violations

Well said, I would say that Zuckerberg was definitely evasive about what they did to combat the use of their platform by Russian and Trump campaign conspirators to push false and misleading stories promoting Donald Trump in the 2016 election.

Pesky right wing bias, eh?

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: January 07, 2019, 12:54:50 PM »
People need to realise what free speech and the first amendment actually mean - Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc are all private, commercial forums, subject to user agreement. Their owners have every right under the American Constitution to censor what goes on their own, commercial platforms.

Now, if you wanted to guarantee free speech on these platforms, under the Constitution, you would have to nationalise these platforms. Which is a policy I would support, and, coincidentally, it is really hilarious to see right wing, small government, libertarians being forced to use this argument, thus essentially nullifying their world view of "government - bad! Market - good!"

So, as you can see Dolph, Whitey et al, the "speech police" are actually mall cops. Perhaps you should change where you shop.

These are publicly traded companies that should be enforcing their standards uniformly. What’s good for the left should be good for the right. Their “enforcement” seems to be very one sided and overly restrictive on points of view that are right leaning.In time these platforms will evolve and maybe even face competition from other sources. Eg I now use Twitter much more than Facebook

Facebook has free speech rights as well you know, or don't you remember Citizens United? Online commercial platforms can enforce any editorial line they like, it's there in their user agreements.

The market has chosen Whitey - stop whinging like a snowflake.

BTW a Trump supporter banging on about left wing bias on Facebook, given what all US intelligence bodies have confirmed went on there during the 2016 campaign, is a bit much.

Eh...you.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: January 07, 2019, 10:03:54 AM »
People need to realise what free speech and the first amendment actually mean - Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc are all private, commercial forums, subject to user agreement. Their owners have every right under the American Constitution to censor what goes on their own, commercial platforms.

Now, if you wanted to guarantee free speech on these platforms, under the Constitution, you would have to nationalise these platforms. Which is a policy I would support, and, coincidentally, it is really hilarious to see right wing, small government, libertarians being forced to use this argument, thus essentially nullifying their world view of "government - bad! Market - good!"

So, as you can see Dolph, Whitey et al, the "speech police" are actually mall cops. Perhaps you should change where you shop.

These are publicly traded companies that should be enforcing their standards uniformly. What’s good for the left should be good for the right. Their “enforcement” seems to be very one sided and overly restrictive on points of view that are right leaning.In time these platforms will evolve and maybe even face competition from other sources. Eg I now use Twitter much more than Facebook

Facebook has free speech rights as well you know, or don't you remember Citizens United? Online commercial platforms can enforce any editorial line they like, it's there in their user agreements.

The market has chosen Whitey - stop whinging like a snowflake.

BTW a Trump supporter banging on about left wing bias on Facebook, given what all US intelligence bodies have confirmed went on there during the 2016 campaign, is a bit much.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: January 04, 2019, 04:08:17 PM »
People need to realise what free speech and the first amendment actually mean - Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc are all private, commercial forums, subject to user agreement. Their owners have every right under the American Constitution to censor what goes on their own, commercial platforms.

Now, if you wanted to guarantee free speech on these platforms, under the Constitution, you would have to nationalise these platforms. Which is a policy I would support, and, coincidentally, it is really hilarious to see right wing, small government, libertarians being forced to use this argument, thus essentially nullifying their world view of "government - bad! Market - good!"

So, as you can see Dolph, Whitey et al, the "speech police" are actually mall cops. Perhaps you should change where you shop.

Point taken and you're right. Beware of the mall cops!!

Companies like facebook and google initially indicated they were a neutral platform but in recent years have shown their bias. It's a shame they've gone this way.
All you really want it an equal playing field and neutral platforms. Thank god for the Gaaboard.

Or a place where you are not constantly confronted with vile bigotry and racism. Tomatoes or tomatoes, I suppose.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: January 04, 2019, 03:24:10 PM »
People need to realise what free speech and the first amendment actually mean - Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc are all private, commercial forums, subject to user agreement. Their owners have every right under the American Constitution to censor what goes on their own, commercial platforms.

Now, if you wanted to guarantee free speech on these platforms, under the Constitution, you would have to nationalise these platforms. Which is a policy I would support, and, coincidentally, it is really hilarious to see right wing, small government, libertarians being forced to use this argument, thus essentially nullifying their world view of "government - bad! Market - good!"

So, as you can see Dolph, Whitey et al, the "speech police" are actually mall cops. Perhaps you should change where you shop.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 10, 2018, 12:33:50 PM »
I actually thinks that splits the Brexit vote - no deal or May's deal are both brexits as such - the Remain vote will be the same (or even larger than the original ballot)

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GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly
« on: December 05, 2018, 02:48:07 PM »
Perception is everything in the media business, so I wouldn't say he is out of the woods on this. #MeToo means you can paw at a girl in a club or you can have a highly visible and lucrative media career - but usually, you can't do both.

Crux of this might be the context. If he's locked and sitting there and girl dances over in a club, then he is just a bit of a lecherous auld fool - he could get away with it.

If he is in a strip club though, and he is paying said young woman to come over and dance for him...well, that is a far different power dynamic going on, and it might be too much trouble to defend him.

Be very interesting to see how it plays.

By the way, it is possible to think that people deserve their privacy from geeks with camera phones AND to think that Brolly is actually acting the absolute sleaze here. Cognitive dissonance I think they call it  ;)

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: November 21, 2018, 02:52:51 PM »
Given the job Michael O'Neill has done with Norn Iron coming from the LOI, it would be ridiculous to look past Kenny. He has a philosophy of playing which he implements wherever he goes, and tries to improve players to fit that style of play - rather than just shrugging his shoulders, saying we're crap and resorting to hoofing it - a la trap and the last days of Martin O'Neill.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: November 13, 2018, 03:43:38 PM »
It’s amazing though, since the election we’ve had the Sessions/Whittaker shenanigans, his pathetic performance in France, his appalling comments on the California wildfires, and now The NY Times is reporting that all may not be as Trump advertised on North Korea.

I’m sure I’ve left out something ( oh yeah, his petulant response to Michelle Obama and the Jim Acosta stuff).

That’s in the space of a few days...

I'd say a lot of that behaviour is driven by the realisation that the Dems are now a force to be reckoned with. Apparently now Whittaker is meeting with DOJ ethics officials to discuss possible areas of recusal. This is ridiculous stuff. I don't know what is scarier - the fact that Donald Trump can't even do authoritarianism right, or the possibility that the Republicans might put up someone with the same prejudice and disdain for democracy, except 20 times smarter, come 2020.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: November 13, 2018, 03:13:58 PM »
Hmm, 538 now forecast Dems to pick 38 seats in the House and Republicans to pick up two Senate seats (in a historically bad Senate map for Dems). Really hard to believe that when they were defending Manchin, McCaskill, Heitkamp, Donnelly, Tester, that they would lose only three of them and pick up two elsewhere.

The Blue wave took a long time to materialise, but boy when it did....

Shellacking territory for Trump.

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