Teachers get it handy!

[Milltown Row2]

Doctors nurses will be paid, hospital managers, directors will also be working...

People in essential jobs will be working, plenty high paying jobs working.

Wife only finished her prep at 9 tonight, working longer now!

I'm sure Jim is still working

Yeah i know, my Mrs is a nurse and worked in covid ward from the start, none of her colleagues got covid, well over 100 of us in the factory did,that's the difference. It's same across the world, we were given no protection,as you know I had it mysel

I know it's not cut and dry, but proportionally...

None of it is fair, but there's some sweeping statements about a profession that haven't had a choice, the government has closed the schools, the government opened the schools, the schools are not prepared for online tuition, some are thinking on their feet and doing their best. Others, like many jobs that may have taken the piss during furlough.. but teachers are following what their managers principals and government have told them what to do..

[Milltown Row2]

Doctors nurses will be paid, hospital managers, directors will also be working...

People in essential jobs will be working, plenty high paying jobs working.

Wife only finished her prep at 9 tonight, working longer now!

I'm sure Jim is still working

I'm not back until Wednesday MR. Will have to get up at 8.55 tomorrow and get myself used to the early starts again.

Wait and see what Arlene says lol

Who's going to play your wife in the movie btw? She's another hero.

I was thinking Sandra bullock, I'd need to give Sandra some tips so she can get into character

[Itchy]

Doctors nurses will be paid, hospital managers, directors will also be working...

People in essential jobs will be working, plenty high paying jobs working.

Wife only finished her prep at 9 tonight, working longer now!

I'm sure Jim is still working

Yeah i know, my Mrs is a nurse and worked in covid ward from the start, none of her colleagues got covid, well over 100 of us in the factory did,that's the difference. It's same across the world, we were given no protection,as you know I had it mysel

I know it's not cut and dry, but proportionally...

None of it is fair, but there's some sweeping statements about a profession that haven't had a choice, the government has closed the schools, the government opened the schools, the schools are not prepared for online tuition, some are thinking on their feet and doing their best. Others, like many jobs that may have taken the piss during furlough.. but teachers are following what their managers principals and government have told them what to do..

Some teachers! And no accountability for those that don't. Do you agree with that or am I wrong?

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

Doctors nurses will be paid, hospital managers, directors will also be working...

People in essential jobs will be working, plenty high paying jobs working.

Wife only finished her prep at 9 tonight, working longer now!

I'm sure Jim is still working

Yeah i know, my Mrs is a nurse and worked in covid ward from the start, none of her colleagues got covid, well over 100 of us in the factory did,that's the difference. It's same across the world, we were given no protection,as you know I had it mysel

I know it's not cut and dry, but proportionally...

None of it is fair, but there's some sweeping statements about a profession that haven't had a choice, the government has closed the schools, the government opened the schools, the schools are not prepared for online tuition, some are thinking on their feet and doing their best. Others, like many jobs that may have taken the piss during furlough.. but teachers are following what their managers principals and government have told them what to do..

Hopefully I didn't make any of those sweeping statements, I'm not at all frustrated with teachers, I'm frustrated though at the help they got to facilitate continued safe learning in school setting

[Milltown Row2]

Doctors nurses will be paid, hospital managers, directors will also be working...

People in essential jobs will be working, plenty high paying jobs working.

Wife only finished her prep at 9 tonight, working longer now!

I'm sure Jim is still working

Yeah i know, my Mrs is a nurse and worked in covid ward from the start, none of her colleagues got covid, well over 100 of us in the factory did,that's the difference. It's same across the world, we were given no protection,as you know I had it mysel

I know it's not cut and dry, but proportionally...

None of it is fair, but there's some sweeping statements about a profession that haven't had a choice, the government has closed the schools, the government opened the schools, the schools are not prepared for online tuition, some are thinking on their feet and doing their best. Others, like many jobs that may have taken the piss during furlough.. but teachers are following what their managers principals and government have told them what to do..

Some teachers! And no accountability for those that don't. Do you agree with that or am I wrong?

There are certain topics which can't really be done, practical courses, PE, the rest, as far as I'm concerned (as my youngest has been through the first lockdown and will go through this one) is being done, and I've seen the effort my wife is putting into hers, she'll be in work developing video tuition lessons.

If the teachers are not doing it then contact your head teachers and inspectors..

As I said a teacher has no control on it, that comes from management, which needs to be monitored, by the same token those said teachers will (if they have kids) need to home school on top of their own work..

I can only give you my experience on it,

[FermGael]

Right what's going on ?
11 plus/ GCSEs still going ahead in the next 7 days ?
It's ridiculous they have not clarified that.
Alot of schools have yr 11s and 12s in tomorrow for face to face teaching.

At secondary level Weir managed to get all current yr 14 and yr 12 pupils on Free School Meals (FSM) an electronic device which is a great help.
I think at primary level he has managed to sort out P4 and P7 who have FSM status
But there are still 5 year groups at each level who have not been sorted yet.
Is this going to be sorted this week ?

[balladmaker]

Local primary school took today for teachers to 'prepare home schooling' for remainder of the week and weeks ahead .... that preparation resulted in three website links ... here ye go boys and girls, click these links and we'll see you in a month or two.  This and the last school year is a write off with exception of what parents are able to do with the child at home.

[delgany]

The minister and the department don't seem to realise that we parents have to make arrangements. Living on a day to day basis, is the school open? closed? arranging childcare, booking time off work, sorting out online classes, etc, etc it's tiring and fills parents with anxiety. Parents need to know. And Teachers need to help this time unlike the last time when they treated it as an early summer holiday.

If the cases keep going up what do you recommend?

Make Teachers redundant and send them to the fields to pick fruit and vegetables.
Honestly if the numbers keep rising I can't see Schools reopening. I don't agree with it but I think that is what'll happen. The disparity becomes huge. Some children will have wonderful online learning experiences and others won't. Some children will suffer huge neglect. That's the truth of it.
My own view is that every other avenue should be exhausted before closing schools. Curfews put in place. Strict work from home. Only 1 outing a day exercise or shops. No mixing. And it needs to be enforced.

I take your point trailer however if we are doing all of the above and still opening schools then the onus will very firmly fall on schools and I mean really fall onto schools.
Class bubbles, walking around corridors, sanatising etc etc - very few of these are actually being properly followed in schools

Complete Bull.....
You belong on the Nolan show

Is that directed at my point or what part of the thread?

"Class bubbles, walking around corridors, sanatising etc etc - very few of these are actually being properly followed in schools

You are saying they are strictly being followed in all schools?

How do you know they aren't being followed - it's also a reference to Nolanesque statistical analysis.

How many school pupils were covid +ve? How many have had to isolate?

Have a walk past any school yard at lunchtime to see what procedures are being followed.

Is every single desk/door handle etc being sanitised when post primary school pupils switch class?

Are kids sitting beside pupils from different classes on the way to/from school?

I dont blame teachers at all for this but it seems that you are saying schools are safe and the virus wont be transmitted between students.

Seems every every government in the UK disagree with you as well

You can see this all from the roadside ?

[Milltown Row2]

Local primary school took today for teachers to 'prepare home schooling' for remainder of the week and weeks ahead .... that preparation resulted in three website links ... here ye go boys and girls, click these links and we'll see you in a month or two.  This and the last school year is a write off with exception of what parents are able to do with the child at home.

So is it the teachers fault or management?

[Itchy]

Doctors nurses will be paid, hospital managers, directors will also be working...

People in essential jobs will be working, plenty high paying jobs working.

Wife only finished her prep at 9 tonight, working longer now!

I'm sure Jim is still working

Yeah i know, my Mrs is a nurse and worked in covid ward from the start, none of her colleagues got covid, well over 100 of us in the factory did,that's the difference. It's same across the world, we were given no protection,as you know I had it mysel

I know it's not cut and dry, but proportionally...

None of it is fair, but there's some sweeping statements about a profession that haven't had a choice, the government has closed the schools, the government opened the schools, the schools are not prepared for online tuition, some are thinking on their feet and doing their best. Others, like many jobs that may have taken the piss during furlough.. but teachers are following what their managers principals and government have told them what to do..

Some teachers! And no accountability for those that don't. Do you agree with that or am I wrong?

There are certain topics which can't really be done, practical courses, PE, the rest, as far as I'm concerned (as my youngest has been through the first lockdown and will go through this one) is being done, and I've seen the effort my wife is putting into hers, she'll be in work developing video tuition lessons.

If the teachers are not doing it then contact your head teachers and inspectors..

As I said a teacher has no control on it, that comes from management, which needs to be monitored, by the same token those said teachers will (if they have kids) need to home school on top of their own work..

I can only give you my experience on it,

I dont doubt you that your wife and many other teachers will go the extra mile. But I can tell you in the South at least there is zero and i mean totally zero accountability for teachers who will do little or nothing in the next few weeks. You can ring inspectors and management till the cows come home  , absolutely nothing will be done. Bar murder a pupil in the south they are untouchable. Thats the sad state of affairs and they have one of the most important jobs around. Id hope that the majority would do their patriotic duty in this crisis and do what they can to educate our young but I know quite a lot will see this as another fully deserved holiday. Thats my personal experience with 1 child in secondary and 2 in primary school.

[delgany]

Local primary school took today for teachers to 'prepare home schooling' for remainder of the week and weeks ahead .... that preparation resulted in three website links ... here ye go boys and girls, click these links and we'll see you in a month or two.  This and the last school year is a write off with exception of what parents are able to do with the child at home.

So is it the teachers fault or management?

Did you complain to the Principal or the Chair of Governors, during the first lockdown?
If a school hasn't improved its provision from the first lockdown, then it cant be up to much and you need to complain. ( although if a rural area - that can be a problem!)

[restorepride]

Doctors nurses will be paid, hospital managers, directors will also be working...

People in essential jobs will be working, plenty high paying jobs working.

Wife only finished her prep at 9 tonight, working longer now!

I'm sure Jim is still working

Yeah i know, my Mrs is a nurse and worked in covid ward from the start, none of her colleagues got covid, well over 100 of us in the factory did,that's the difference. It's same across the world, we were given no protection,as you know I had it mysel

I know it's not cut and dry, but proportionally...

None of it is fair, but there's some sweeping statements about a profession that haven't had a choice, the government has closed the schools, the government opened the schools, the schools are not prepared for online tuition, some are thinking on their feet and doing their best. Others, like many jobs that may have taken the piss during furlough.. but teachers are following what their managers principals and government have told them what to do..

Some teachers! And no accountability for those that don't. Do you agree with that or am I wrong?

There are certain topics which can't really be done, practical courses, PE, the rest, as far as I'm concerned (as my youngest has been through the first lockdown and will go through this one) is being done, and I've seen the effort my wife is putting into hers, she'll be in work developing video tuition lessons.

If the teachers are not doing it then contact your head teachers and inspectors..

As I said a teacher has no control on it, that comes from management, which needs to be monitored, by the same token those said teachers will (if they have kids) need to home school on top of their own work..

I can only give you my experience on it,

I dont doubt you that your wife and many other teachers will go the extra mile. But I can tell you in the South at least there is zero and i mean totally zero accountability for teachers who will do little or nothing in the next few weeks. You can ring inspectors and management till the cows come home  , absolutely nothing will be done. Bar murder a pupil in the south they are untouchable. Thats the sad state of affairs and they have one of the most important jobs around. Id hope that the majority would do their patriotic duty in this crisis and do what they can to educate our young but I know quite a lot will see this as another fully deserved holiday. Thats my personal experience with 1 child in secondary and 2 in primary school.

How did you find your own education?

[Taylor]

The minister and the department don't seem to realise that we parents have to make arrangements. Living on a day to day basis, is the school open? closed? arranging childcare, booking time off work, sorting out online classes, etc, etc it's tiring and fills parents with anxiety. Parents need to know. And Teachers need to help this time unlike the last time when they treated it as an early summer holiday.

If the cases keep going up what do you recommend?

Make Teachers redundant and send them to the fields to pick fruit and vegetables.
Honestly if the numbers keep rising I can't see Schools reopening. I don't agree with it but I think that is what'll happen. The disparity becomes huge. Some children will have wonderful online learning experiences and others won't. Some children will suffer huge neglect. That's the truth of it.
My own view is that every other avenue should be exhausted before closing schools. Curfews put in place. Strict work from home. Only 1 outing a day exercise or shops. No mixing. And it needs to be enforced.

I take your point trailer however if we are doing all of the above and still opening schools then the onus will very firmly fall on schools and I mean really fall onto schools.
Class bubbles, walking around corridors, sanatising etc etc - very few of these are actually being properly followed in schools

Complete Bull.....
You belong on the Nolan show

Is that directed at my point or what part of the thread?

"Class bubbles, walking around corridors, sanatising etc etc - very few of these are actually being properly followed in schools

You are saying they are strictly being followed in all schools?

How do you know they aren't being followed - it's also a reference to Nolanesque statistical analysis.

How many school pupils were covid +ve? How many have had to isolate?

Have a walk past any school yard at lunchtime to see what procedures are being followed.

Is every single desk/door handle etc being sanitised when post primary school pupils switch class?

Are kids sitting beside pupils from different classes on the way to/from school?

I dont blame teachers at all for this but it seems that you are saying schools are safe and the virus wont be transmitted between students.

Seems every every government in the UK disagree with you as well

You can see this all from the roadside ?

Great debating skills.

If that is the best answer you can come up with then best we move on

[Seaney]

Local primary school took today for teachers to 'prepare home schooling' for remainder of the week and weeks ahead .... that preparation resulted in three website links ... here ye go boys and girls, click these links and we'll see you in a month or two.  This and the last school year is a write off with exception of what parents are able to do with the child at home.

So is it the teachers fault or management?

And in the real world, I have complained as has the parents committee - they have the backings of the Unions, they can do what they want - or in this case do absolutely nothing.

Did you complain to the Principal or the Chair of Governors, during the first lockdown?
If a school hasn't improved its provision from the first lockdown, then it cant be up to much and you need to complain. ( although if a rural area - that can be a problem!)

[Seaney]

Doctors nurses will be paid, hospital managers, directors will also be working...

People in essential jobs will be working, plenty high paying jobs working.

Wife only finished her prep at 9 tonight, working longer now!

I'm sure Jim is still working

I'm not back until Wednesday MR. Will have to get up at 8.55 tomorrow and get myself used to the early starts again.

Wait and see what Arlene says lol

Who's going to play your wife in the movie btw? She's another hero.

This attitude sums up teachers during this, always trying to be the smart arse, feck the kids eh Jim!