Westminster Election 12th December 2019

[Eamonnca1]

Jesus Christ, Kuenssberg tweeted what she had heard. Just like Peston and even f**king Tom Newton Dunn. This is how Twitter works. They didn't report it as fact and when it was apparent that it wasn't true, I know Kuenssberg at least apologised.

Her job is not to be an investigative reporter and tell you the truth. Her job is to report on the politics going on around everything. The conservatives making false claims about someone getting punched is clearly politics.

Going back to your example of the weather, if it's raining outside, her job isn't to tell you it's raining outside. Her job is to tell you that there's a clampet who claims it isn't.

If people want live, rolling fast-paced Twitter style news they have to accept that tweets on live, unfolding events won't have had the benefit of editorial scrutiny. That's just simply the world we live in, not evidence of a pro Tory media conspiracy.

Jesus Christ, have people really been conditioned into accepting this? If it's not raining outside, a politicians says it is raining outside, a journalist's job is not to just tell you what the politician said. It's their job to look out the f***ing window and let you know if they're telling the truth or not.

That false, clichéd analysis was attempted earlier. Try harder.

No. I won't try harder. It is absolutely correct.

[yellowcard]

Big gains for labour in latest poll just released up 3% points (only 5% behind Tories which is smallest gap since election was called) hung parliament is on the cards but who knows at this stage the polls bouncing all over the place.

What polls are you reading???

I've seen anything from 13 to 8 haven't seen it as close as that though!

Savanna Comres

Tories 41% -
Labour 36% +3%
LibDem 12% -
Other 11% -3%

Released in the last hour.

[Ambrose]

How do we see things going in the six counties tomorrow?

I think the SDLP will retake Foyle, they should comfortably take south Belfast. I'm hoping SF take north Belfast, but it will be tight. Can't see any other upsets. Naomi Long has too much ground to make up on the DUPUDA in east Belfast. The DUP will take north Down.

Could Boris be in trouble in his 'home' constituency of Uxbridge?

[RedHand88]

How do we see things going in the six counties tomorrow?

I think the SDLP will retake Foyle, they should comfortably take south Belfast. I'm hoping SF take north Belfast, but it will be tight. Can't see any other upsets. Naomi Long has too much ground to make up on the DUPUDA in east Belfast. The DUP will take north Down.

Could Boris be in trouble in his 'home' constituency of Uxbridge?

Agree with all of that. God damn north belfast is going to be a squeaker though.

[bennydorano]

Read an article today, think it was in the Irish News(might have been Twitter) stating roughly 3,500 - 4,000 voters added to the register in NB - vast majority supposedly of the Unionist persuasion, Shinners may have missed a trick by the looks of it. Something similar in SB but to a lesser extent and not expected to help Pengelley. See the Alliance party trying to claim EB & North Down are neck and neck - would doubt that very much.

[Milltown Row2]

Can't see Finucane winning NB they've gone all out with there with voter registration drives and townhall meetings to make sure it doesn't slip. Pissing on the street while very minor wouldn't have helped!!

I think the Torys get their majority by 20 or so then who the f**k knows what happens then??!!

Christ John has a piss in the street and Sammy can run about buck naked and get elected every time!

[Walter Cronc]

Is NB a changing demographic in the same way South Belfast is? Or has it always been pretty much 50/50? Does the rise of clubs like St Endas indicate more nationalists moving into the area?

[Owenmoresider]

Big gains for labour in latest poll just released up 3% points (only 5% behind Tories which is smallest gap since election was called) hung parliament is on the cards but who knows at this stage the polls bouncing all over the place.

What polls are you reading???

I've seen anything from 13 to 8 haven't seen it as close as that though!

Savanna Comres

Tories 41% -
Labour 36% +3%
LibDem 12% -
Other 11% -3%

Released in the last hour.

Funny you ignored the other polls released this evening too, guess they don't quite suit your narrative.

CON: 45% (+1)
LAB: 35% (+2)
LDEM: 10% (-1)
BREX: 3% (-)
GRN: 3% (+1)
via
@DeltaPollUK
, 09 -11 Dec
Chgs. w/ 07 Dec

CON: 44% (-)
LAB: 32% (-)
LDEM: 13% (-2)
BREX: 3% (+1)
GRN: 3% (-)
via
@KantarTNS
, 09 -11 Dec
Chgs. w/ 02 Dec

CON: 43% (-)
LAB: 34% (-)
LDEM: 11% (-2)
BREX: 4% (+1)
GRN: 3% (+1)
via
@PanelbaseMD
, 10 - 11 Dec
Chgs. w/ 06 Dec

CON: 41% (-)
LAB: 32% (-)
LDEM: 14% (-)
GRN: 4% (-)
BREX: 3% (-1)
via
@BMGResearch
, 06 - 11 Dec
Chgs. w/ 06 Dec

CON: 45% (-1)
LAB: 33% (+2)
LDEM: 12% (-1)
via
@OpiniumResearch
, 10 - 11 Dec
Chgs. w/ 06 Dec

[Ambrose]

Read an article today, think it was in the Irish News(might have been Twitter) stating roughly 3,500 - 4,000 voters added to the register in NB - vast majority supposedly of the Unionist persuasion, Shinners may have missed a trick by the looks of it. Something similar in SB but to a lesser extent and not expected to help Pengelley. See the Alliance party trying to claim EB & North Down are neck and neck - would doubt that very much.

A VAST majority of new applicants to the electoral register in key Belfast battleground constituencies are believed to be from mainly unionist areas.

More than 1.25m people in Northern Ireland are eligible to vote in Thursday's general election, according to the Electoral Office.

The total eligible electorate is 1,293,971, an increase of 51,273 since the 2017 Westminster election.

While there has been a rise in the number of eligible voters in each of the 18 constituencies, the largest number of new voters are in areas where there is likely to be a close contest between rival parties.

There are 4,022 extra voters on the register in Foyle, where Sinn Féin is coming under pressure from the SDLP to hold onto the seat.

Sinn Féin won the long standing SDLP seat by just 169 votes in 2017.

The battle between the two parties is expected to be one of the closest of tomorrow's poll.

The battle between John Finucane and DUP deputy leader Nigel Dodds in North Belfast has proven controversial, with the SDLP standing aside to maximise Sinn Féin's vote.

In one of the most toxic contests, controversial banners attacking the Sinn Féin candidate and his family have appeared across the city.

An extra 3,976 voters have joined the electoral register in North Belfast. Sources have indicated that the majority of those have been in traditionally unionist areas.

Voter registrations had been taking place to coincide with meetings organised by loyalists, angry at a potential sea border if Boris Johnson gets his Brexit deal through Westminster.

In South Belfast an additional 3,879 have joined the electoral register since 2017.

More than half of those are believed to be from traditionally loyalist areas of the constituency, where the previous DUP MP Emma Little Pengelly is expected to lose her seat to the SDLP's Claire Hanna.

The smallest growth was in North Antrim, where 1,477 were added to the register.

Last month the Electoral Office said it had processed more than 235,000 applications from members of the public seeking to be placed on the register since the start of 2019.

The office said it had received 72,500 applications in the past three weeks alone.

The disparity in the figures, is partly attributed to the 34,000 people who could vote in the European election but are not eligible to vote in the Westminster contest.

Citizens of other EU countries living in the United Kingdom can vote in council, assembly and EU elections but not in General Elections.

Other factors may include duplicate applications from people unaware they were already on the register.

http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2019/12/11/news/record-numbers-sign-up-for-electoral-register-1786915/

[seafoid]

Big gains for labour in latest poll just released up 3% points (only 5% behind Tories which is smallest gap since election was called) hung parliament is on the cards but who knows at this stage the polls bouncing all over the place.

What polls are you reading???

I've seen anything from 13 to 8 haven't seen it as close as that though!

Savanna Comres

Tories 41% -
Labour 36% +3%
LibDem 12% -
Other 11% -3%

Released in the last hour.

Funny you ignored the other polls released this evening too, guess they don't quite suit your narrative.

CON: 45% (+1)
LAB: 35% (+2)
LDEM: 10% (-1)
BREX: 3% (-)
GRN: 3% (+1)
via
@DeltaPollUK
, 09 -11 Dec
Chgs. w/ 07 Dec

CON: 44% (-)
LAB: 32% (-)
LDEM: 13% (-2)
BREX: 3% (+1)
GRN: 3% (-)
via
@KantarTNS
, 09 -11 Dec
Chgs. w/ 02 Dec

CON: 43% (-)
LAB: 34% (-)
LDEM: 11% (-2)
BREX: 4% (+1)
GRN: 3% (+1)
via
@PanelbaseMD
, 10 - 11 Dec
Chgs. w/ 06 Dec

CON: 41% (-)
LAB: 32% (-)
LDEM: 14% (-)
GRN: 4% (-)
BREX: 3% (-1)
via
@BMGResearch
, 06 - 11 Dec
Chgs. w/ 06 Dec

CON: 45% (-1)
LAB: 33% (+2)
LDEM: 12% (-1)
via
@OpiniumResearch
, 10 - 11 Dec
Chgs. w/ 06 Dec

The Daily Telegraph is focusing on the Savanta poll
I think the Tories are worried about complacency

[seafoid]

https://twitter.com/suey2y/status/1204698240941199360/photo/1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjUWX6S8iYU

[Franko]

Christ would you look a that.  Another BBC 'mistake'.  But this time pro-Corbyn!*

https://twitter.com/socialistbloke/status/1204827659013898241

*Actually no, it's BoJo again. 

[magpie seanie]

PS. If Keir Starmer is leading that election Labour win by a landslide!!

I just don't buy that. Around half the UK want Brexit to happen. Those people are not going to vote for a party that doesn't endorse brexit, no matter how charismatic the party leader is. This is a single issue election for the vast majority of UK voters.

The problem for Labour is they have went to the hard left under Corbyn/McDonnell, people left of centre who have been Labour all their lives are told to f**k off to the Tories if any dissent was raised about the direction of the party and Labour expect those people to hold their nose and still vote Labour ?

It's absolutely nuts or a deliberate fabrication to suggest that Labour's policies and manifesto are "hard left". They are modern social democratic proposals the like of which you see in many European countries and more modest than in several - like the Scandanavian coutries where people seem to quite satisfied with their. Proposed Corporation Tax lower than France and Germany. Jeremy would want to get out his Karl Marx books again as if that's what he's supposed to be trying to achieve he's making a poor attempt at it!!!! The levels of accepted ridiculousness are unsurpassed. Did you hear all rich people are smarter and harder workers that the rest and they'll all leave with their money if they don't get their way? Yep. Shocking.

[TheOptimist]

I see the Alliance and Lucid Talk had a public spat last night!

I'm in Foyle and am still undecided. The only way I would want Eastwood in is if it is a hung parliament that SDLP may play some small influence in, but it would pain me to lend him my vote, especially if the conservatives win a majority!

[smelmoth]

I see the Alliance and Lucid Talk had a public spat last night!

I'm in Foyle and am still undecided. The only way I would want Eastwood in is if it is a hung parliament that SDLP may play some small influence in, but it would pain me to lend him my vote, especially if the conservatives win a majority!

What bad thing would he do with your vote?