The Many Faces of US Politics...

[whitey]

Story time with whitey - fantastic 

100% true-every word


https://www.ajc.com/news/local/georgia-executes-atlanta-cop-killer-gregory-lawler/pvLPVo6iRPjLAs0nNIwruO/amp.html

Cop who was killed had moved down from Boston to Atlanta like my buddy

[Gmac]

Was just in San Francisco for some business and if the future is anything like it is there in the downtown area god help us , homeless people everywhere, drug addicts  shooting up outside parking garage I was in ,poop patrol cleaning up shit off the streets , scum bags hanging around every corner looking for an easy victim to rob or steal an iPhone off , Gavin and Nancy should hang their heads in shame as should  the Democrat party and leadership. A beautiful city destroyed.

[omochain]

No jail time for roger stone

LAW AND ORDER!!

DRAIN THE SWAMP!!

at least he's not pardoning drug dealers and terrorists like your hero.

What terrorist did Obama pardon?

oscar Lopez Rivera

He wasn't pardoned.

He had the remainder of his sentence commuted after serving more than 35 years.

Stone didn't serve a day because he looked out for his boss's interests and kept his mouth shut. It was like a mob boss looking after a tough soldier who took one for the team.

Will Michael Cohen get the same treatment?

he was actually out and messed up on his terms of release and is back in jail .

GMAC .. can you please tell us how Cohen messed up his terms of release?

he was going to serve the rest of his sentence at home but didn't like the fact he couldn't talk to the media so he was put back in prison.

Are you sure that's exactly what happened?

[J70]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.amp.html

" I've been advocating the abolition of the police for years."

Who was one here mocking conservatives for (correctly) claiming people wanted to abolish the police

When your finished with all that straw, don't forget to bale it before the rain comes.

One opinion writer = "people"

Well it wasn't fvckin aliens who were saying it

If and when the Democratic platform and leadership jumps on the "abolish the police" train, come back to us. I never heard of Mariame Kaba before.

On her piece itself, do you disagree with EVERYTHING she has to say?

[whitey]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.amp.html

" I've been advocating the abolition of the police for years."

Who was one here mocking conservatives for (correctly) claiming people wanted to abolish the police

When your finished with all that straw, don't forget to bale it before the rain comes.

One opinion writer = "people"

Well it wasn't fvckin aliens who were saying it

If and when the Democratic platform and leadership jumps on the "abolish the police" train, come back to us. I never heard of Mariame Kaba before.

On her piece itself, do you disagree with EVERYTHING she has to say?

One of the lefties on here scoffed at the suggestion that people were calling for the abolition of the police and here we have exactly such a suggestion in black and white in The NY Times

[J70]

17 people shot in nyc in one day ,wonder is de blassio worried about this or is he planning another painting project.

Yeah, I'm sure he's out there right now spray painting all the Trump properties in the city (at least those that still have Trump's name on them) and wiring up One Police Plaza for demolition as we speak.

You're a wee bit obsessed with a mayor who lives in and whose power is limited to a city 3000 miles away from you.

[J70]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8519887/Tucker-Carlson-vacation-chief-writer-forced-resign.html

Hopefully the fishing trip is Tucker getting fired!

One less sc**bag on TV - won't be missed

Maybe he'll fulfill David Duke's wishes and oust Mike Pence to give the KKK a dream GOP ticket for November.

[J70]

resignation letter from an opinion writer at the NY Times

https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter

"But the lessons that ought to have followed the election—lessons about the importance of understanding other Americans, the necessity of resisting tribalism, and the centrality of the free exchange of ideas to a democratic society—have not been learned. Instead, a new consensus has emerged in the press, but perhaps especially at this paper: that truth isn't a process of collective discovery, but an orthodoxy already known to an enlightened few whose job is to inform everyone else."

Max Blumenthal's take
https://thegrayzone.com/2020/07/15/bari-weiss-cancel-culture-israel/

[whitey]

resignation letter from an opinion writer at the NY Times

https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter

"But the lessons that ought to have followed the election—lessons about the importance of understanding other Americans, the necessity of resisting tribalism, and the centrality of the free exchange of ideas to a democratic society—have not been learned. Instead, a new consensus has emerged in the press, but perhaps especially at this paper: that truth isn't a process of collective discovery, but an orthodoxy already known to an enlightened few whose job is to inform everyone else."

Max Blumenthal's take
https://thegrayzone.com/2020/07/15/bari-weiss-cancel-culture-israel/

So she's now a Neocon? LOL

That's exactly like whats thrown around on here.....either agree with us or you're a racist a bigot a Nazi or a Neocon

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/04/bari-weiss-the-new-york-times-provocateur/amp


"If you read her work, she's a liberal humanist whose guiding principle is free expression in art, love, and discourse, something the left spent decades fighting to achieve"

[J70]

resignation letter from an opinion writer at the NY Times

https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter

"But the lessons that ought to have followed the election—lessons about the importance of understanding other Americans, the necessity of resisting tribalism, and the centrality of the free exchange of ideas to a democratic society—have not been learned. Instead, a new consensus has emerged in the press, but perhaps especially at this paper: that truth isn't a process of collective discovery, but an orthodoxy already known to an enlightened few whose job is to inform everyone else."

Max Blumenthal's take
https://thegrayzone.com/2020/07/15/bari-weiss-cancel-culture-israel/

So she's now a Neocon? LOL

That's exactly like whats thrown around on here.....either agree with us or you're a racist a bigot a Nazi or a Neocon

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/04/bari-weiss-the-new-york-times-provocateur/amp


"If you read her work, she's a liberal humanist whose guiding principle is free expression in art, love, and discourse, something the left spent decades fighting to achieve"

Honestly, didn't know much about her before I saw your piece (I stopped watching Maher years ago as my wife doesn't like him, otherwise I might have recognized her). I've read plenty of Bret Stephens' and David Brooks' stuff on the opinion page, but hers, for whatever reason, never caught my attention.

Leaving aside whatever really happened at the Times, I think you've a fair point on the rigid conformity seemingly demanded in this age of Twitter, although I would argue that it applies across the board.

Part of the reason I do not have a Twitter account. Its basically a shallow, hit-and-run type of forum, with no proper engagement or discussion or nuance.

[Eamonnca1]

I stopped watching Maher years ago as my wife doesn't like him

Maher's antivaxxer bullshit is getting out of hand. A few weeks ago in his closing monologue he was calling on young people to go out and get the virus because he thinks their immune systems can cope, and somehow that'd be doing us all a favour. The next week he was canceling an event "coz Covid." For all his preaching about the right being into science denial, he does plenty of science denial himself. It's gotten worse under lockdown.

[J70]

I stopped watching Maher years ago as my wife doesn't like him

Maher's antivaxxer bullshit is getting out of hand. A few weeks ago in his closing monologue he was calling on young people to go out and get the virus because he thinks their immune systems can cope, and somehow that'd be doing us all a favour. The next week he was canceling an event "coz Covid." For all his preaching about the right being into science denial, he does plenty of science denial himself. It's gotten worse under lockdown.

I always found plenty of stuff to disagree with Maher about, especially on vaccines, but I liked his overall show and his spectrum of guests, for the most part (his fawning interview with that idiot Milo Yiannapolis, for example, was an utter disgrace).

Might start watching him again in the run up to this election.

[whitey]

resignation letter from an opinion writer at the NY Times

https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter

"But the lessons that ought to have followed the election—lessons about the importance of understanding other Americans, the necessity of resisting tribalism, and the centrality of the free exchange of ideas to a democratic society—have not been learned. Instead, a new consensus has emerged in the press, but perhaps especially at this paper: that truth isn't a process of collective discovery, but an orthodoxy already known to an enlightened few whose job is to inform everyone else."

Max Blumenthal's take
https://thegrayzone.com/2020/07/15/bari-weiss-cancel-culture-israel/

So she's now a Neocon? LOL

That's exactly like whats thrown around on here.....either agree with us or you're a racist a bigot a Nazi or a Neocon

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/04/bari-weiss-the-new-york-times-provocateur/amp


"If you read her work, she's a liberal humanist whose guiding principle is free expression in art, love, and discourse, something the left spent decades fighting to achieve"

Honestly, didn't know much about her before I saw your piece (I stopped watching Maher years ago as my wife doesn't like him, otherwise I might have recognized her). I've read plenty of Bret Stephens' and David Brooks' stuff on the opinion page, but hers, for whatever reason, never caught my attention.

Leaving aside whatever really happened at the Times, I think you've a fair point on the rigid conformity seemingly demanded in this age of Twitter, although I would argue that it applies across the board.

Part of the reason I do not have a Twitter account. Its basically a shallow, hit-and-run type of forum, with no proper engagement or discussion or nuance.

The demand for rigid conformity does not apply EQUALLY across the board

The WSJ has plenty of editorials by left leaning writers without their readers losing their $hit. Just look at the response to the Tom Cotton editorial at the NYTimes a few weeks ago.....completely unhinged

[J70]

resignation letter from an opinion writer at the NY Times

https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter

"But the lessons that ought to have followed the election—lessons about the importance of understanding other Americans, the necessity of resisting tribalism, and the centrality of the free exchange of ideas to a democratic society—have not been learned. Instead, a new consensus has emerged in the press, but perhaps especially at this paper: that truth isn't a process of collective discovery, but an orthodoxy already known to an enlightened few whose job is to inform everyone else."

Max Blumenthal's take
https://thegrayzone.com/2020/07/15/bari-weiss-cancel-culture-israel/

So she's now a Neocon? LOL

That's exactly like whats thrown around on here.....either agree with us or you're a racist a bigot a Nazi or a Neocon

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/04/bari-weiss-the-new-york-times-provocateur/amp


"If you read her work, she's a liberal humanist whose guiding principle is free expression in art, love, and discourse, something the left spent decades fighting to achieve"

Honestly, didn't know much about her before I saw your piece (I stopped watching Maher years ago as my wife doesn't like him, otherwise I might have recognized her). I've read plenty of Bret Stephens' and David Brooks' stuff on the opinion page, but hers, for whatever reason, never caught my attention.

Leaving aside whatever really happened at the Times, I think you've a fair point on the rigid conformity seemingly demanded in this age of Twitter, although I would argue that it applies across the board.

Part of the reason I do not have a Twitter account. Its basically a shallow, hit-and-run type of forum, with no proper engagement or discussion or nuance.

The demand for rigid conformity does not apply EQUALLY across the board

The WSJ has plenty of editorials by left leaning writers without their readers losing their $hit. Just look at the response to the Tom Cotton editorial at the NYTimes a few weeks ago.....completely unhinged

Anecdote whitey again, huh?

Bret Stephens is still there. David Brooks is still there. They're criticized plenty without readers "losing their shit".

How about the overall right wing movement? RINOs... politicians afraid of their life to criticize Trump instead retiring to preserve their dignity... more than a dozen presidential candidates afraid to say they'd raise taxes one dollar in exchange for every ten dollars in cuts...

There's a hell of a lot more rigidity and adhesion to orthodoxy on the right.

[whitey]

resignation letter from an opinion writer at the NY Times

https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter

"But the lessons that ought to have followed the election—lessons about the importance of understanding other Americans, the necessity of resisting tribalism, and the centrality of the free exchange of ideas to a democratic society—have not been learned. Instead, a new consensus has emerged in the press, but perhaps especially at this paper: that truth isn't a process of collective discovery, but an orthodoxy already known to an enlightened few whose job is to inform everyone else."

Max Blumenthal's take
https://thegrayzone.com/2020/07/15/bari-weiss-cancel-culture-israel/

So she's now a Neocon? LOL

That's exactly like whats thrown around on here.....either agree with us or you're a racist a bigot a Nazi or a Neocon

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/04/bari-weiss-the-new-york-times-provocateur/amp


"If you read her work, she's a liberal humanist whose guiding principle is free expression in art, love, and discourse, something the left spent decades fighting to achieve"

Honestly, didn't know much about her before I saw your piece (I stopped watching Maher years ago as my wife doesn't like him, otherwise I might have recognized her). I've read plenty of Bret Stephens' and David Brooks' stuff on the opinion page, but hers, for whatever reason, never caught my attention.

Leaving aside whatever really happened at the Times, I think you've a fair point on the rigid conformity seemingly demanded in this age of Twitter, although I would argue that it applies across the board.

Part of the reason I do not have a Twitter account. Its basically a shallow, hit-and-run type of forum, with no proper engagement or discussion or nuance.

The demand for rigid conformity does not apply EQUALLY across the board

The WSJ has plenty of editorials by left leaning writers without their readers losing their $hit. Just look at the response to the Tom Cotton editorial at the NYTimes a few weeks ago.....completely unhinged

Anecdote whitey again, huh?

Bret Stephens is still there. David Brooks is still there. They're criticized plenty without readers "losing their shit".

How about the overall right wing movement? RINOs... politicians afraid of their life to criticize Trump instead retiring to preserve their dignity... more than a dozen presidential candidates afraid to say they'd raise taxes one dollar in exchange for every ten dollars in cuts...

There's a hell of a lot more rigidity and adhesion to orthodoxy on the right.

Well now you're changing the subject....we were discussing the media

So if I understand you correctly, you believe that there are equal levels of outrage from the readers of the NY Times and the WSJ when a journalist writes a piece they feel does not align with their political views? Interesting!