County Manager Merry go round

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Jim Bob

Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 25, 2022, 04:22:53 PM
Wonder will he continue as a schoolmaster though.
Bound to be at retirement age for that carry on

He has his years long done but got caught out in economic crash.

Yes forgot about that. Wasn't that thrown up to him on TV a few years ago ?

mrdeeds

Quote from: Jim Bob on July 25, 2022, 06:00:31 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 25, 2022, 04:22:53 PM
Wonder will he continue as a schoolmaster though.
Bound to be at retirement age for that carry on

He has his years long done but got caught out in economic crash.

Yes forgot about that. Wasn't that thrown up to him on TV a few years ago ?

Mr Brolly

marty34

Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 06:03:56 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 25, 2022, 06:00:31 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 25, 2022, 04:22:53 PM
Wonder will he continue as a schoolmaster though.
Bound to be at retirement age for that carry on

He has his years long done but got caught out in economic crash.

Yes forgot about that. Wasn't that thrown up to him on TV a few years ago ?

Mr Brolly

Don't think it's right to bring up stuff like that - loads got hit by the economic crash in 2007 onwards.

seafoid

Quote from: armaghniac on July 25, 2022, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: rrhf on July 25, 2022, 03:17:18 PM
Again like Pat his time was coming to an end.   Hes finally going for the county job now that he is free from the punditry.  Time will tell.

He is likely also retiring from the school principal job at some stage around now. It is a brave move, but Meath are not in a good place and some improvement in their performance is very possible. He choice of Lieutenants will be interesting.
He must have come to a view on Dublin. Man Utd situation, at least for 2/3 years ?
If Meath can beat Dublin the job looks very different. But it's a big ask
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Blowitupref

Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 05:02:05 PM

O Rourke has being successful any other level he is managed. The only international rules manager to win home and away. Managed school to 3 All Ireland schools titles in 5 years. And managed his club to their first and second club senior title.

How successful was he when managing Meath minors and U21s in the past?
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

mrdeeds

Quote from: marty34 on July 25, 2022, 06:10:20 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 06:03:56 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 25, 2022, 06:00:31 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 25, 2022, 04:22:53 PM
Wonder will he continue as a schoolmaster though.
Bound to be at retirement age for that carry on

He has his years long done but got caught out in economic crash.

Yes forgot about that. Wasn't that thrown up to him on TV a few years ago ?

Mr Brolly

Don't think it's right to bring up stuff like that - loads got hit by the economic crash in 2007 onwards.

Wasn't a criticism, just saying reason why he hasn't retired before now.

BillyFlynnfromTrim

Quote from: Blowitupref on July 25, 2022, 06:18:28 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 05:02:05 PM

O Rourke has being successful any other level he is managed. The only international rules manager to win home and away. Managed school to 3 All Ireland schools titles in 5 years. And managed his club to their first and second club senior title.

How successful was he when managing Meath minors and U21s in the past?

He managed U21 for one year in 2011. Meath played Westmeath and John Heslin was unmarkable and played brilliantly and led Westmeath to victory. Trevor Giles was assistant. He was Meath U21 manager for just 1 year. I not sure about minors might have managed team for 1 year in 2000s. I cannot remeber.

O Rourke as manager starts of slow but over period of time he is successful. He started slowly with international rules team, lost first game. Than went on to be only Irish manager successful home and away. He lost senior county final with Simontown in 2003 or 2004. Came back for 2nd stint and led them to their first and second ever county club senior title. He managed St Pats again started slowly. Pats had never won even leinster title. He won leinster than won 3 all Ireland schools title in 5 years  he is Meath most successful underage manager ever.

O Rourke is a winner. They said he would never play again after injury at 19, he players inter County til he was 36. They said he would never win Sam as played in early or mid 80s, he won two by end of decade. He won Footballer of the year in his 30s, one of few who lost All Ireland and won footballer of the year. They said he would never win county title after losing 4 finals with Skyrne. He ended winning 2 titles in his 30s. They said he would never win All Ireland school with St Pats he won 3. They said he would never manage his club to county title after lose in 2004. Ten years later he managed his club to 2 titled. O Rourke carrer is about proving doubters wrong. He keeps at it and keeps at it. They said he would never manage Meath here is managing at 65. They now say he wouldn't be successful. We will have to wait and see.
But O Rourke is a winner and he is incredibly driven individual who with the force of his personality over 3 years he will be pushing Meath further. He might atart slowly but over 3 years he could really make impact. Many will want him to fail after Subday Game. But don't rule out O Rourke. First year or so could be up and down but over 3 or 4 years don't be surprised he makes real impact. On sporting field manager or player everything he has done he has been successful. I wouldn't back against O Rourke. Behind his Sunday game persona is very very driven individual. On football field The Times Sports journalist Denis Walah said O Rourke was the most competitive sportsperson he ever saw on sports field soccer gaa rugby. O Rourke had the skills of top class footballer of the year forward but determination of Roy keane. One of the All time great forwards. The only thing left on his Cv is to manage Meath seniors successfully. Time will tell if he will suceed.

Blowitupref

Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 07:09:47 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 25, 2022, 06:18:28 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 05:02:05 PM

O Rourke has being successful any other level he is managed. The only international rules manager to win home and away. Managed school to 3 All Ireland schools titles in 5 years. And managed his club to their first and second club senior title.

How successful was he when managing Meath minors and U21s in the past?

He managed U21 for one year in 2011. Meath played Westmeath and John Heslin was unmarkable and played brilliantly and led Westmeath to victory. Trevor Giles was assistant. He was Meath U21 manager for just 1 year. I not sure about minors might have managed team for 1 year in 2000s. I cannot remeber.

O Rourke as manager starts of slow but over period of time he is successful. He started slowly with international rules team, lost first game. Than went on to be only Irish manager successful home and away. He lost senior county final with Simontown in 2003 or 2004. Came back for 2nd stint and led them to their first and second ever county club senior title. He managed St Pats again started slowly. Pats had never won even leinster title. He won leinster than won 3 all Ireland schools title in 5 years  he is Meath most successful underage manager ever.

O Rourke is a winner. They said he would never play again after injury at 19, he players inter County til he was 36. They said he would never win Sam as played in early or mid 80s, he won two by end of decade. He won Footballer of the year in his 30s, one of few who lost All Ireland and won footballer of the year. They said he would never win county title after losing 4 finals with Skyrne. He ended winning 2 titles in his 30s. They said he would never win All Ireland school with St Pats he won 3. They said he would never manage his club to county title after lose in 2004. Ten years later he managed his club to 2 titled. O Rourke carrer is about proving doubters wrong. He keeps at it and keeps at it. They said he would never manage Meath here is managing at 65. They now say he wouldn't be successful. We will have to wait and see.
But O Rourke is a winner and he is incredibly driven individual who with the force of his personality over 3 years he will be pushing Meath further. He might atart slowly but over 3 years he could really make impact. Many will want him to fail after Subday Game. But don't rule out O Rourke. First year or so could be up and down but over 3 or 4 years don't be surprised he makes real impact. On sporting field manager or player everything he has done he has been successful. I wouldn't back against O Rourke. Behind his Sunday game persona is very very driven individual. On football field The Times Sports journalist Denis Walah said O Rourke was the most competitive sportsperson he ever saw on sports field soccer gaa rugby. O Rourke had the skills of top class footballer of the year forward but determination of Roy keane. One of the All time great forwards. The only thing left on his Cv is to manage Meath seniors successfully. Time will tell if he will suceed.

At 65 it's hardly a long term appointment. Considering where Meath seniors currently are what would be regarded as a success in the next two years?
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

BillyFlynnfromTrim

Quote from: Blowitupref on July 25, 2022, 07:37:17 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 07:09:47 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 25, 2022, 06:18:28 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 05:02:05 PM

O Rourke has being successful any other level he is managed. The only international rules manager to win home and away. Managed school to 3 All Ireland schools titles in 5 years. And managed his club to their first and second club senior title.

How successful was he when managing Meath minors and U21s in the past?

He managed U21 for one year in 2011. Meath played Westmeath and John Heslin was unmarkable and played brilliantly and led Westmeath to victory. Trevor Giles was assistant. He was Meath U21 manager for just 1 year. I not sure about minors might have managed team for 1 year in 2000s. I cannot remeber.

O Rourke as manager starts of slow but over period of time he is successful. He started slowly with international rules team, lost first game. Than went on to be only Irish manager successful home and away. He lost senior county final with Simontown in 2003 or 2004. Came back for 2nd stint and led them to their first and second ever county club senior title. He managed St Pats again started slowly. Pats had never won even leinster title. He won leinster than won 3 all Ireland schools title in 5 years  he is Meath most successful underage manager ever.

O Rourke is a winner. They said he would never play again after injury at 19, he players inter County til he was 36. They said he would never win Sam as played in early or mid 80s, he won two by end of decade. He won Footballer of the year in his 30s, one of few who lost All Ireland and won footballer of the year. They said he would never win county title after losing 4 finals with Skyrne. He ended winning 2 titles in his 30s. They said he would never win All Ireland school with St Pats he won 3. They said he would never manage his club to county title after lose in 2004. Ten years later he managed his club to 2 titled. O Rourke carrer is about proving doubters wrong. He keeps at it and keeps at it. They said he would never manage Meath here is managing at 65. They now say he wouldn't be successful. We will have to wait and see.
But O Rourke is a winner and he is incredibly driven individual who with the force of his personality over 3 years he will be pushing Meath further. He might atart slowly but over 3 years he could really make impact. Many will want him to fail after Subday Game. But don't rule out O Rourke. First year or so could be up and down but over 3 or 4 years don't be surprised he makes real impact. On sporting field manager or player everything he has done he has been successful. I wouldn't back against O Rourke. Behind his Sunday game persona is very very driven individual. On football field The Times Sports journalist Denis Walah said O Rourke was the most competitive sportsperson he ever saw on sports field soccer gaa rugby. O Rourke had the skills of top class footballer of the year forward but determination of Roy keane. One of the All time great forwards. The only thing left on his Cv is to manage Meath seniors successfully. Time will tell if he will suceed.

At 65 it's hardly a long term appointment. Considering where Meath seniors currently are what would be regarded as a success in the next two years?
Clearly there is succession plan. Meath minor All Ireland winning manager Cathal O Bric  will take U19 management panel in 2023 and will manage U20 Meath team in 2024. With John Mccarrhy 2020 Leinster minor manager managing U20s this year and next year. It looks like O Bric minor All Ireland winning manager wil take those player at U20 and than all going well will take over as senior manager in 3 r 4 years time. Kevin Reilly ex player who led Trim to Intermediate All Ireland final last year is another potential manager in 3 or 4 years time. Barry Callaghan who is O Rourke selector has also managed Meath minors U20s and U21 in the past is also potential future manager. O Rourke is not long term manager.. 3 to 4 years maybe 5 maybe 3. We will see. There is group of young Meath managers Cathal O Bric, Kevin Reilly, Barry Callaghan and Brian Farrell who (managed Rataoth to senior club title) who are not ready but in 3 t 4 y3srs time who cud take over from Colm. If O Bric is successful with minors at U20 he will take over from Colm O Rourke. There will be succession plan when O Rourke takes over. That's what it looks will happen.

FermGael

Wanted.  Forwards to take frees.
Not fussy.  Any sort of ability will be considered

Itchy

Meath put a Dinosaur in charge
🦕
Good stuff

yellowcard

Wee James no surprise, the only surprise is that he left it so long. Down are at a low ebb but it's probably a good time to take that job as they can't sink much lower but they need to begin to try and heal the club rifts which will be difficult. Maybe an outside man like Banty alongside Laverty and Poacher.

WhoDat

wouldn't be overly impressed with that appointment if i was a Meath supporter. if his punditry is anything to go by, his views are very outdated (and usually wrong).

who's going for the mayo job? there doesn't seem to be much of a peep out of them at the moment.

BillyFlynnfromTrim

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2022, 05:35:31 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 05:02:05 PM

With Eamon Fitzmaurice assistant manager and coach and Donie Buckley coach and Jimmy McGuinnes s and c coach also involved strong looking management team.
Got a link to such info?
It's all over the county at moment and We are Meath podcast which is main official Meath gaa podcast which always breaks news in the county gaa wise, it has links to county board. We are Meath podcast has said Eamon Fitzmaurice is strongly touted as being member of O Rourkes management team as assistant manager and coach. They said Donie Buckley as coach also. The podcast always breaks news whose new on the panel whose leaving oanel any managerial appointments. All over the county Fitzmaurice Buckley names are being mentioned. O Rourke does build big management teams. At Simontowns when he managed he had management of over 20 people for that Meath senior club. You would expect a big management team under Colm.

Itchy

Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 08:02:28 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 25, 2022, 07:37:17 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 07:09:47 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 25, 2022, 06:18:28 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 05:02:05 PM

O Rourke has being successful any other level he is managed. The only international rules manager to win home and away. Managed school to 3 All Ireland schools titles in 5 years. And managed his club to their first and second club senior title.

How successful was he when managing Meath minors and U21s in the past?

He managed U21 for one year in 2011. Meath played Westmeath and John Heslin was unmarkable and played brilliantly and led Westmeath to victory. Trevor Giles was assistant. He was Meath U21 manager for just 1 year. I not sure about minors might have managed team for 1 year in 2000s. I cannot remeber.

O Rourke as manager starts of slow but over period of time he is successful. He started slowly with international rules team, lost first game. Than went on to be only Irish manager successful home and away. He lost senior county final with Simontown in 2003 or 2004. Came back for 2nd stint and led them to their first and second ever county club senior title. He managed St Pats again started slowly. Pats had never won even leinster title. He won leinster than won 3 all Ireland schools title in 5 years  he is Meath most successful underage manager ever.

O Rourke is a winner. They said he would never play again after injury at 19, he players inter County til he was 36. They said he would never win Sam as played in early or mid 80s, he won two by end of decade. He won Footballer of the year in his 30s, one of few who lost All Ireland and won footballer of the year. They said he would never win county title after losing 4 finals with Skyrne. He ended winning 2 titles in his 30s. They said he would never win All Ireland school with St Pats he won 3. They said he would never manage his club to county title after lose in 2004. Ten years later he managed his club to 2 titled. O Rourke carrer is about proving doubters wrong. He keeps at it and keeps at it. They said he would never manage Meath here is managing at 65. They now say he wouldn't be successful. We will have to wait and see.
But O Rourke is a winner and he is incredibly driven individual who with the force of his personality over 3 years he will be pushing Meath further. He might atart slowly but over 3 years he could really make impact. Many will want him to fail after Subday Game. But don't rule out O Rourke. First year or so could be up and down but over 3 or 4 years don't be surprised he makes real impact. On sporting field manager or player everything he has done he has been successful. I wouldn't back against O Rourke. Behind his Sunday game persona is very very driven individual. On football field The Times Sports journalist Denis Walah said O Rourke was the most competitive sportsperson he ever saw on sports field soccer gaa rugby. O Rourke had the skills of top class footballer of the year forward but determination of Roy keane. One of the All time great forwards. The only thing left on his Cv is to manage Meath seniors successfully. Time will tell if he will suceed.

At 65 it's hardly a long term appointment. Considering where Meath seniors currently are what would be regarded as a success in the next two years?
Clearly there is succession plan. Meath minor All Ireland winning manager Cathal O Bric  will take U19 management panel in 2023 and will manage U20 Meath team in 2024. With John Mccarrhy 2020 Leinster minor manager managing U20s this year and next year. It looks like O Bric minor All Ireland winning manager wil take those player at U20 and than all going well will take over as senior manager in 3 r 4 years time. Kevin Reilly ex player who led Trim to Intermediate All Ireland final last year is another potential manager in 3 or 4 years time. Barry Callaghan who is O Rourke selector has also managed Meath minors U20s and U21 in the past is also potential future manager. O Rourke is not long term manager.. 3 to 4 years maybe 5 maybe 3. We will see. There is group of young Meath managers Cathal O Bric, Kevin Reilly, Barry Callaghan and Brian Farrell who (managed Rataoth to senior club title) who are not ready but in 3 t 4 y3srs time who cud take over from Colm. If O Bric is successful with minors at U20 he will take over from Colm O Rourke. There will be succession plan when O Rourke takes over. That's what it looks will happen.

3 to 5 is pretty long term these days, I would guess half the teams in the country have managers in place less than 5 years.