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Bring back Ronnie all is forgiven lol

Ok. I'm back. Euros over. My 3rd favourite team won it. What was the religious make-up of Lincoln?  What do you want me to do?

I'm supporting Northern Ireland in the Euros.  I consider myself a dedicated GAA member and would aim towards a republic in political arguments.  Are those positions mutually exclusive?

Possibly, but zero sports that I'm aware of.

1. If you actually wanted to know you could have found the following from an internet site called Wikipedia:
"Traditionally, the Orange Order was affiliated with the institutions of establishment Unionism: the Ulster Unionist Party and Church of Ireland. It had a fractious relationship with the Democratic Unionist Party, Protestant paramilitaries, Independent Orange Order, and the Free Presbyterian Church. The Order urged its members not to join these organisations, and it is only recently that some of these intra-Unionist breaches have been healed."
2. Most flags have been created independently of religion.  Do your own research here.
3. Grown-ups and most children know that voting is a private matter.

If head-counts based on religion really mean anything to you then you really should get out and talk people.

Are Pressies and church of Ireland considered all the same ??

They are when it comes to.putting others in their place. GSTQ

Nobody I know equates a Free Presbyterian with a Church of Ireland member.  You are clearly on the wind-up Seafoid.  Go away.  Religion is a serious matter.

[The main problem is the supporters, vast majority are socially deprived and unfortunately don't have the education or leadership behind them to try and promote a all inclusive atmosphere at games]

I think you might see a lot more young Catholics representing NI in the near future.

The IFA are doing a lot of work in the the youth development squads to promote an all inclusive culture to help cut out young lads changing allegiance.

I think we will always see some cross over but you have to give them credit for trying to do something.

I would agree ref Windsor Park, it's not a great place for a catholic to have to go to, but again Belfast is beginning to regenerate itself so some of the areas down that way may tidy themselves up.

The main problem is the supporters, vast majority are socially deprived and unfortunately don't have the education or leadership behind them to try and promote a all inclusive atmosphere at games.

If that's the case, then what's the excuse for educated unionist politicans?

It's not the case. Bigotry has zero zero zero to do with social deprivation. Some posters on here are clearly on the wind-up.

As James Craig put it.
"All I boast of is that we are a Protestant Parliament and a Protestant State. It would be rather interesting for historians of the future to compare a Catholic State launched in the South with a Protestant State launched in the North and to see which gets on the better and prospers the more. "

I wonder how the prospering bit and getting on thing is working out? Any updates on that?

Craig and Carson had to invent a culture for the Protestant state for the Protestant people that justified the status quo where the Taigs were at the bottom of the caste system. With industries like shipbuilding employing protestants exclusively it would go on forever. And England would always be the same. What could possibly go wrong.
Cavan collaborated and won over 30 Ulster titles while the model worked.
The problem with racist systems is that they are self defeating economically. Keeping people down is bad for the economy. It means the wrong focus. If you do it for too long the whole system can collapse.
The Brits changed as well. Nobody in England or Scotland gives a shit about the Somme.

New here and all but please go away.

I'm no expert but..

Yous boys are a gas.  Who's the funniest on here?

Wrong. Northern Ireland is not 1/2th a province. It's 1/4th of a nation. ROI is 3/4qtrs of a nation. Which European countries are better? Us northern scum live in the best country in the world. Who else has 2 countries to support? The Beautiful South is another issue entirely. Who cares who takes his decree from Pope Francie?

Kosovars have 2 countries to support. The bucks in Kaliningrad don't go around claiming nationhood .

Ok.  They've their right to support Kosovo, Serbia, Albania, whoever.  We're entitled to our nationhood and can support whomsoever we choose.  Shouldn't we be very grateful for that?

Antrim can only be considered 1 of 9 because that's the way the GAA constitute themselves.  The site might be worth a few pounds? So what?

3. The government must consider what is best for the people of Northern Ireland. Cavan, Monaghan and Donegal are irrelevant.

So what? The worth of the site isn't a kick in the balls of what the GAA have pledged to the project. In relation to the Casement project, why should Antrim accept a similar standing to counties who have offered nothing to the new stadium?

So you think Antrim GAA should be paid £Xm for the site and then, whenever a provincial ground is built somewhere, they should pay back £Ym as their contribution whenever they want to use it.  As a percentage how many £s have Antrim generated for the Ulster Council?  Stormont doesn't care how many GAA heads there are in Belfast.  As a priority where would the GAA feature in a straw poll of residents anywhere in Belfast?  Way way down the pecking order.

Antrim can only be considered 1 of 9 because that's the way the GAA constitute themselves.  The site might be worth a few pounds? So what?

3. The government must consider what is best for the people of Northern Ireland. Cavan, Monaghan and Donegal are irrelevant.

Wrong. Northern Ireland is not 1/2th a province. It's 1/4th of a nation. ROI is 3/4qtrs of a nation. Which European countries are better? Us northern scum live in the best country in the world. Who else has 2 countries to support? The Beautiful South is another issue entirely. Who cares who takes his decree from Pope Francie?

1. There won't be that much traffic at Antrim matches
2. Don't know but if "they" are the Ulster Council then it needs to point out to our government that its' hands are tied to an extent. It can only give Antrim GAA 11% support, it being one 9th of our province.

Personally I think it's dead in the water and the message is 'take yer bogball elsewhere' resonates.  Why go somewhere where you're not wanted?

Shocking piece of scaremongering by BBC It would seem BBC is trying to polarise local opinion in advance of the local consultation

Don't know if it's scaremongering or not but let's consider this scenario: Springsteen is playing to 38,000 over 4 nights. The recently reconstituted UVF decide to give them westies a bit of the ole medicine with a 1000lb bomb at the entrance to that Casement monstrosity. Stadium needs evacuated in 8 mins.  One of the first things the PSNI does is close the M1 because that's exactly where the culchies will be directed and reach their safety.  I'm no expert but surely a huge pedestrian entrance/exit is planned for that roundabout?  How often it would be used is another issue.  It seems to me that the concert goers\ulster final attendees would be in a better position than the residents in Slemish Way.

The GAA have taken an arrogant stance but it seems to me that underneath all of this there's an undercurrent of not really wanting them in Belfast.  A green field site north of Newry makes far more sense. It will eventually become Northern Ireland's second city and better suited to deal with nationalists' commercial interests.