IFA's Football without Frontiers initiative

[T Fearon]

Noted the inception of this programme yesterday, encouraging foreign nationals to get involved with soccer.

Though the title was more than a tad ironic, given that the IFA has erected fronntiers in soccer on this island, by causing the original split, and point blankly refusing to countenance any debate about one ireland soccer side,league etc

[SammyG]

Noted the inception of this programme yesterday, encouraging foreign nationals to get involved with soccer.

Though the title was more than a tad ironic, given that the IFA has erected fronntiers in soccer on this island, by causing the original split, and point blankly refusing to countenance any debate about one ireland soccer side,league etc

FFS Tony, how many times does it have to be explained before you listen. The FAI broke away not the IFA.

p.s. Good to see you're back to your old ways, twisting a good news story to have a dig. 

[T Fearon]

Sammy, the split was caused by the IFA, the FAI might technically have broken away but it was left with no choice.

Good to see you're not arguing against the accuracy of the IFA's steadfast opposition to one Irish team, hence maintaining the football frontiers

[SammyG]

Sammy, the split was caused by the IFA, the FAI might technically have broken away but it was left with no choice.

In what way was the split caused by the IFA?

Good to see you're not arguing against the accuracy of the IFA's steadfast opposition to one Irish team, hence maintaining the football frontiers

What are you on about?

[T Fearon]

By its introversion (ie unwillingness to participate in early World Cups), insistence on sticking with the three real British Associations, only selecting Southern born players for certain games, omitting them from other etc.Thats how the IFA occasioned the split in Irish soccer.

Also the IFA remains the only opponents to an all Ireland soccer team therefore coming up with a Football without Frontiers mantra is laughable

[armaghniac]

Sammy, the split was caused by the IFA

Whatever the origin of the split, does the IFA wish to kiss and make up?

[SammyG]

Sammy, the split was caused by the IFA

Whatever the origin of the split, does the IFA wish to kiss and make up?

Kiss and make up with who?

[armaghniac]

Kiss and make up with who?

With their separated brethren in the FAI, let bygones be bygones and all that.

[SammyG]

Kiss and make up with who?

With their separated brethren in the FAI, let bygones be bygones and all that.

I have always said that if the FAI can get UEFA to change their rules, they are more than welcome to apply to rejoin the IFA.

Not sure what the players or manager or the suits in Merrion Square would think, as they'd all be out of a job.

[BallyhaiseMan]

im not a big soccer fan,but didnt the FAI break away from the IFA?

would any reunification not result in the FAI ceasing to exist?


Two questions for the soccer fans on both sides
i always wondered would Northern Ireland fans really be totally against the idea of a united team if the IFA were in charge,and The team etc was largely based in Belfast and not Dublin,with obviously just a changed flag and anthem?

and would those on the other side of the fence,be willing to accept a United Ireland team short of having the headquarters in Dublin or the Soldiers Song/Tricolour over the team?

[Solomon Kane]

By its introversion (ie unwillingness to participate in early World Cups), insistence on sticking with the three real British Associations, only selecting Southern born players for certain games, omitting them from other etc.Thats how the IFA occasioned the split in Irish soccer.

Also the IFA remains the only opponents to an all Ireland soccer team therefore coming up with a Football without Frontiers mantra is laughable

Er Tony - before partition, and before the partitionist FAI there was no "North" or "South", there was just Ireland. Also, alongside the IFA UEFA and FIFA currently oppose a joint NI/ROI team.


It didn't take you long to revert to foprm did it? FFS Paisley has made more of a stab of being a decent human than you this past few months and like you he has dedicated his life to hatred. Maybe when you reach 81 you'll wise up.

[Tonto]

By its introversion (ie unwillingness to participate in early World Cups)

Oh FFS Tony you've made a blunder akin to your suggestion that Wasps Rugby Club are so named because they are racist and sectarian.

When you consider that the first World Cup wasn't until 1930 and that the Football Association of the Irish Free State broke away from the only Association ever represent and call themselves "Ireland" some nine years prior to that event, I have the distinct feeling that your rantings are again not based upon historical fact.

Oh dear, Tony.  I won't say you've out-done yourself, but you've certainly made a good attempt.

[stew]

By its introversion (ie unwillingness to participate in early World Cups), insistence on sticking with the three real British Associations, only selecting Southern born players for certain games, omitting them from other etc.Thats how the IFA occasioned the split in Irish soccer.

Also the IFA remains the only opponents to an all Ireland soccer team therefore coming up with a Football without Frontiers mantra is laughable

Er Tony - before partition, and before the partitionist FAI there was no "North" or "South", there was just Ireland. Also, alongside the IFA UEFA and FIFA currently oppose a joint NI/ROI team.


It didn't take you long to revert to foprm did it? FFS Paisley has made more of a stab of being a decent human than you this past few months and like you he has dedicated his life to hatred. Maybe when you reach 81 you'll wise up.

Show me where Fearon has dedicated his life to hatred, to hold him up as the fenian equivilent of Paisley is disgusting and wrong.

[Solomon Kane]

By its introversion (ie unwillingness to participate in early World Cups), insistence on sticking with the three real British Associations, only selecting Southern born players for certain games, omitting them from other etc.Thats how the IFA occasioned the split in Irish soccer.

Also the IFA remains the only opponents to an all Ireland soccer team therefore coming up with a Football without Frontiers mantra is laughable

Er Tony - before partition, and before the partitionist FAI there was no "North" or "South", there was just Ireland. Also, alongside the IFA UEFA and FIFA currently oppose a joint NI/ROI team.


It didn't take you long to revert to foprm did it? FFS Paisley has made more of a stab of being a decent human than you this past few months and like you he has dedicated his life to hatred. Maybe when you reach 81 you'll wise up.

Show me where Fearon has dedicated his life to hatred, to hold him up as the fenian equivilent of Paisley is disgusting and wrong.

Read through some of his gems about huns, scousers, people with no legs, Wasps (or is it W.A.S.Ps) rugby club to name but a few. Then find all the positive things he has to say about those who don't share his views.

[T Fearon]

A couple of points.

Anyone who knows the history of Irish soccer  knows full well that the IFA induced the split by its parochialism and only selective inclusion of siouthern born players. Read Eoghan Corry's excellent book on the subject for the true story.

In terms of one Irish team I would happily forego all political trappings, (ie anthems, flags etc) and concede home matches being played on an alternate basis at Lansdowne and the Maze, if it mean't one independent Irish team run by one independent association as the alternative to the status quo ie two teams largely drawing support exclusively from one community and two associations, one noted for its abject incompetence (and SammyG wants the FAI to come under this umbrella of incompetence) run currently by an Englishman who presided over the demise of Wimbledon FC.

My views are not hate inducing either...they're merely logic based.