Paddy Jackson apology

Started by yellowcard, April 06, 2018, 02:32:16 PM

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Quote from: David McKeown on April 14, 2018, 12:57:31 PM
Provided a proper review and not a charade took place I would have no issue with the decision to sack Olding and Jackson. That said I would love to know the exact reason. If it were simply the texts the Gilroy should be going as well. If the review looked at all the evidence and decided on the balance of probabilities that non concensual sex occurred hence the firing then again I wouldn't complain but what ever the reason for the decision I hope they are consistent with it going forward. I might have an issue if they have been sacked because of public opinion or the mere fact they were tried and acquitted.

Were there not reports throughout the trial that Ulster rugby delegates were there on a rotational basis to support the accused?  Strange to do that and then sack them. Then of course I may not be remembering things correctly.

Yeah, I thought it might be a mutual consent thing.  But looks like there must something in their T&C's that made some element of this gross misconduct?

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#286
Stuart Olding's statement

"It is with regret that I have been informed that the IRFU have decided to revoke my contract.  As I said outside court following my acquittal, I am and will always be fiercely proud of having played for my province and country.  I very much wished to continue to have the opportunity to represent them.

Regrettably, influences outside of my contractual arrangement have made it impossible for that to happen.  I said outside court that the Stuart Olding that you read about in the trial is not the real Stuart Olding.  The treatment that I have received since my acquittal, both fair and unfair, has made me even more determined to prove myself.  With the support of my family and friends I shall seek new challenges elsewhere.  I bear no one any ill will.  I am very sorry that this day has come to pass.  To those who have supported me through these last 20 months and especially the fans who continue to support me, I thank you all."

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Paddy Jackson's statement

"I am deeply disappointed about the outcome of the IRFU and Ulster Rugby's internal review.  However, I recognise that my behaviour has fallen far short of the values expected of me as an international player, a role model for the game of rugby and as a son and a brother.  I am truly sorry.  Since I was a young boy it was my ambition to play for Ulster and Ireland and I am extremely proud, privileged and honoured to have done so. It is therefore with great sadness and regret but with many cherished memories that I leave that behind.  I would like to thank everyone who has supported me throughout this process. I have taken great strength from that support. I'd also like to thank Ulster and Irish rugby for the opportunities that they provided for me and I wish them, and all my former team mates, every success.  "My focus in the months and years ahead will be on rebuilding the trust placed in me by people throughout Ulster and Ireland."

Milltown Row2

Well Gilroy should get the boot also based on that.. Jackson and Olding have released statements and they have accepted things it seems..

Won't be long before the word bitch is banned when talking to female staff ffs
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

imtommygunn

You seem to focus on the belfast sluts name calling and the sending porn videos about. While that has added to i really don't think it is calling women belfast sluts at the core of this decision...

Milltown Row2

Quote from: imtommygunn on April 14, 2018, 02:03:17 PM
You seem to focus on the belfast sluts name calling and the sending porn videos about. While that has added to i really don't think it is calling women belfast sluts at the core of this decision...

Having a threesome then is sackable?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

imtommygunn

Look you have your opinion and that is fine but name calling and threesome kind of suggest you haven't thought too deeply here.

I'll leave you and syferus to battle it out as it is not productive use of my time ;)

sid waddell

Quote from: imtommygunn on April 14, 2018, 02:03:17 PM
You seem to focus on the belfast sluts name calling and the sending porn videos about. While that has added to i really don't think it is calling women belfast sluts at the core of this decision...
It's probably the fact that a hell of a lot of people think they're rapists that has led to this decision.

JPGJOHNNYG

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2018, 02:05:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 14, 2018, 02:03:17 PM
You seem to focus on the belfast sluts name calling and the sending porn videos about. While that has added to i really don't think it is calling women belfast sluts at the core of this decision...

Having a threesome then is sackable?

Just as well the football premier league teams dont bother about misconduct otherwise they wouldnt be able to field a team.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: imtommygunn on April 14, 2018, 02:18:08 PM
Look you have your opinion and that is fine but name calling and threesome kind of suggest you haven't thought too deeply here.

I'll leave you and syferus to battle it out as it is not productive use of my time ;)

Will you accept any not verdict decision or just ones that involve rugby players?

I haven't a clue what went on that night, and tbh they don't know much of it themselves by all accounts, it went to court and 11 people decided that they were not guilty... now at the minute people believe what they want regardless of the courts,judges, and jury decided. Hey that's fine.

Me personally it makes no impact on my life Whether they play rugby again means nothing to me.

What is annoying (slightly) is the bandwagon vegan treehuggers feminists crowd who have become a 'movement' and refused to accept the rule of law and using this high profile case as a platform to make news and 'educate' men .. they'd do well to protest at such tv programmes like Ex on the beach, Geordie shore, love island! The tr**p talk from the women on those shows is a lot worse..

Paddy and Olding have accepted the decision now.. some people should do the same, but won't be long before the next crusade
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Milltown Row2

Quote from: sid waddell on April 14, 2018, 02:19:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 14, 2018, 02:03:17 PM
You seem to focus on the belfast sluts name calling and the sending porn videos about. While that has added to i really don't think it is calling women belfast sluts at the core of this decision...
It's probably the fact that a hell of a lot of people think they're rapists that has led to this decision.

Hmm, the hell of a lot of people that really mattered, didn't think so, but you were there all long with the rest
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

sid waddell

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2018, 02:48:40 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on April 14, 2018, 02:19:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 14, 2018, 02:03:17 PM
You seem to focus on the belfast sluts name calling and the sending porn videos about. While that has added to i really don't think it is calling women belfast sluts at the core of this decision...
It's probably the fact that a hell of a lot of people think they're rapists that has led to this decision.

Hmm, the hell of a lot of people that really mattered, didn't think so, but you were there all long with the rest

As well as displaying a fundamental misunderstanding of the criminal justice system, you've just displayed you can't count! Well done, mate! ;D


longballin

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2018, 02:46:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 14, 2018, 02:18:08 PM
Look you have your opinion and that is fine but name calling and threesome kind of suggest you haven't thought too deeply here.

I'll leave you and syferus to battle it out as it is not productive use of my time ;)

Will you accept any not verdict decision or just ones that involve rugby players?

I haven't a clue what went on that night, and tbh they don't know much of it themselves by all accounts, it went to court and 11 people decided that they were not guilty... now at the minute people believe what they want regardless of the courts,judges, and jury decided. Hey that's fine.

Me personally it makes no impact on my life Whether they play rugby again means nothing to me.

What is annoying (slightly) is the bandwagon vegan treehuggers feminists crowd who have become a 'movement' and refused to accept the rule of law and using this high profile case as a platform to make news and 'educate' men .. they'd do well to protest at such tv programmes like Ex on the beach, Geordie shore, love island! The tr**p talk from the women on those shows is a lot worse..

Paddy and Olding have accepted the decision now.. some people should do the same, but won't be long before the next crusade

Oh dear you're taking this very badly  : 0

AQMP

They were goners with or without the protests

moysider


I wonder how many people would actually keep their careers if caught up in an episode like this?