Fire in tower block in London.

[MoChara]

The sprucing up of the flats was nothing to do with the flats themselves it was to take the bad look from the balcony of the yuppy flats build in the surrounding area.

The same as the doing up of the tower block in the new lodge.


I had heard the cladding was fire retardant on the outside but not the inside meaning it spread up the inside on it melting anything in its way.

[Tony Baloney]

There is an element of class war coming out of this where the locals are saying it was a purely cosmetic upgrade and the owners saying it was also to provide additional insulation.

[Walter Cronc]

There is an element of class war coming out of this where the locals are saying it was a purely cosmetic upgrade and the owners saying it was also to provide additional insulation.

It is certainly the former! It appeases the chai latte drinkers. Happening all over Zone 2 & 3 in London as former inner city areas gentrify.

[Syferus]

There is an element of class war coming out of this where the locals are saying it was a purely cosmetic upgrade and the owners saying it was also to provide additional insulation.

Where you see class war I see normal people and asshat corporations.

[Wildweasel74]

Still doesnt explain what happened the stairwell which is a protected zone! This area should not have filled with smoke unless the recent internal work breached the compartmentation of this area, likely through pipework not properly sealed somewhere on the stairwell

[Dougal Maguire]

There is clearly a class war going on as automation is becoming more widespread to increase profits for the already mega rich, meanwhile working class people become poorer depending on exploitative employers offering poor terms and conditions, zero hours contracts etc or reducing benefits simply to survive. Public sector workers also squeezed to a point where they are merely surviving rather than living.  The world is ripe for revolution but the fight has been beaten out of people. There is a caste system in all bit name

[Walter Cronc]

All the while children in the north live in among the poorest conditions in western Europe.

But sure flegs and marches are more important!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-40278243

[haranguerer]

There is an element of class war coming out of this where the locals are saying it was a purely cosmetic upgrade and the owners saying it was also to provide additional insulation.

It is certainly the former! It appeases the chai latte drinkers. Happening all over Zone 2 & 3 in London as former inner city areas gentrify.

What a load of bollocks. Even if it was purely to make it look nicer how would that make it a class issue?

[Walter Cronc]

There is an element of class war coming out of this where the locals are saying it was a purely cosmetic upgrade and the owners saying it was also to provide additional insulation.

It is certainly the former! It appeases the chai latte drinkers. Happening all over Zone 2 & 3 in London as former inner city areas gentrify.

What a load of bollocks. Even if it was purely to make it look nicer how would that make it a class issue?

No adequate fire safety provisions - alarms/sprinklers/stairwells. Yeah that happens in wealthy developments.

[Milltown Row2]

There is an element of class war coming out of this where the locals are saying it was a purely cosmetic upgrade and the owners saying it was also to provide additional insulation.

It is certainly the former! It appeases the chai latte drinkers. Happening all over Zone 2 & 3 in London as former inner city areas gentrify.

What a load of bollocks. Even if it was purely to make it look nicer how would that make it a class issue?

No adequate fire safety provisions - alarms/sprinklers/stairwells. Yeah that happens in wealthy developments.

All the fire protection and wealth didnt stop the twin towers not only going on fire but falling down

[Walter Cronc]

There is an element of class war coming out of this where the locals are saying it was a purely cosmetic upgrade and the owners saying it was also to provide additional insulation.

It is certainly the former! It appeases the chai latte drinkers. Happening all over Zone 2 & 3 in London as former inner city areas gentrify.

What a load of bollocks. Even if it was purely to make it look nicer how would that make it a class issue?

No adequate fire safety provisions - alarms/sprinklers/stairwells. Yeah that happens in wealthy developments.

All the fire protection and wealth didnt stop the twin towers not only going on fire but falling down

Not comparable MR2.

[Tony Baloney]

Still doesnt explain what happened the stairwell which is a protected zone! This area should not have filled with smoke unless the recent internal work breached the compartmentation of this area, likely through pipework not properly sealed somewhere on the stairwell

Some contractor said yesterday that there was work being done on the gas supply and he noticed that fire breaks were not reinstated after the pipework being completed. Compartmentalisation is the very reason the people are told to stay in their flats. It's all well and good if the fire is both internal and the compartments aren't breached. Regardless of compartmentalisation, the major issue was the cladding on fire on the outside.

[Declan]

What a load of bollocks. Even if it was purely to make it look nicer how would that make it a class issue?

https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10154939461291939/

Seems pretty clear to me

[Owen Brannigan]

The material used to clad the tower block is used worldwide and is mass produced by the Shanghai Huayuan Composite Materials Ltd under the trade name of Alucobest Aluminum Composite Panel (ACP).

ACP is made up of two layers of aluminum skin on the top and bottom, and one layer of anti-toxic polyethylene material in the core. It is highly flammable and only suitable on low rise buildings as a cladding material

In 2014, thirteen floors of a Melbourne building went up in flames within 15 minutes after the cladding was set alight by a lit cigarette that came into contact with the core. The cheap cladding covering the building didn't meet Australian standards, and it's been used on thousands of buildings in Australia. 

After the fire, the material was tested and was found to be highly flammable taking only 55 seconds to flame.

The use of the cladding has nothing to do with a class war and just cost cutting by builders of thousands high rise buildings around the world where it is a cheap way to decorate the outer surface of concrete towers.

[haranguerer]

What a load of bollocks. Even if it was purely to make it look nicer how would that make it a class issue?

https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10154939461291939/

Seems pretty clear to me

Cos some guy said so? Dead on.