A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.

Started by winghalfback, May 27, 2015, 03:16:23 PM

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armaghniac

If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

UlsterMan2

The sad thing is we shouldn't care about brexit or this and that, if we get a chance to free Ireland we need to take it and worry about things later, as Bobby said Ireland unfree shall never be at peace, so free Ireland and take it from there

Íseal agus crua isteach a

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Quote from: armaghniac on July 09, 2017, 12:10:27 AM
A slightly different perspective from Россия
https://youtu.be/PK2Wis7cfXg

That was a pure gem thanks for sharing. You won't find honest commentary like that in the BBC.

Avondhu star

Quote from: seafoid on July 05, 2017, 04:56:48 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 05, 2017, 04:37:10 PM
NI economy to grow 1% this year and 0.9% next year, and that's before any Brexit disruption, which isn't very good when the population is growing by 0.5%. Incredibly, NI is growing more slowly than GB!
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/news/northern-irelands-economy-to-grow-by-just-09-in-2018-study-finds-35895028.html

With the ROI growing at 4% this year and much the same next year people will begin to notice the gap, while of course the public finance gap is only increased by the DUP deal and NI being behind GB.
NI is stagnating. There is no growth driver. For years being part of the UK was advantageous. Not now

Has any party initiated a proper analysis of all possible economic programs that could be developed under a single state ? And I don't mean the magic beans "make the rich pay" policy of the "left and "so called left" also known as Sinn Fein
Lee Harvey Oswald , your country needs you

BennyCake

Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on July 09, 2017, 01:36:16 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 09, 2017, 12:10:27 AM
A slightly different perspective from Россия
https://youtu.be/PK2Wis7cfXg

That was a pure gem thanks for sharing. You won't find honest commentary like that in the BBC.

You're not meant to.

T Fearon

http://www.irishnews.com/news/2017/09/11/news/trying-to-convince-unionists-of-the-benefits-of-a-united-ireland-is-insulting--1132706/

For Seafoid and others equally misguided who think economic arguments or any other form of logic will persuade unionists to opt for a United Ireland

armaghniac

Quote from: T Fearon on September 11, 2017, 07:40:46 AM
http://www.irishnews.com/news/2017/09/11/news/trying-to-convince-unionists-of-the-benefits-of-a-united-ireland-is-insulting--1132706/

For Seafoid and others equally misguided who think economic arguments or any other form of logic will persuade unionists to opt for a United Ireland

Not all people are unionists.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

T Fearon

But their consent is required for reunification as per full agreement of SF,SDLP and all southern parties enshrined in GFA.

armaghniac

Quote from: T Fearon on September 11, 2017, 11:08:22 AM
But their consent is required for reunification as per full agreement of SF,SDLP and all southern parties enshrined in GFA.

All that is required is a 50%+1 of NI to vote for it.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Rossfan

Quote from: armaghniac on September 11, 2017, 11:24:46 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on September 11, 2017, 11:08:22 AM
But their consent is required for reunification as per full agreement of SF,SDLP and all southern parties enshrined in GFA.

All that is required is a 50%+1 of NI to vote for it.
Correct.
Unionists are now around 45%?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

T Fearon

Wont happen anyway with or without Unionist consent.Dublin will see to that

smelmoth

Quote from: UlsterMan2 on July 09, 2017, 01:34:08 AM
The sad thing is we shouldn't care about brexit or this and that, if we get a chance to free Ireland we need to take it and worry about things later, as Bobby said Ireland unfree shall never be at peace, so free Ireland and take it from there

First bit of sense in this debate. Let's just vote for a united ireland and worry about the rest later. My message to anybody having doubts is this: STOP HAVING DOUBTS.

Anybody wanting to ask questions or wanting answers I ask them the following 2 questions: Can they even think of one occasion when blind faith or lack of accountability has harmed us?

Can they even think of one time when politicians have been given a free hand and let the people down?

End of debate. Debate is completely unnecessary

T Fearon


Hereiam

Will be no civil war Tony as the saying goes "we are stronger in numbers"
It would be worth it in the end.

T Fearon

So one million unionists will quietly acquiesce? Have you seen their reaction when their flag is taken down from Belfast City Hall?

This is all irrelevant anyway.The Dublin Government would stop a United Ireland if there was unanimous support for it in the North.