Proof there is no god.

[LCohen]

I was once at a debate where "the existence of god" was debated. Lots of clever (and convincing) things were said as to why "he" didn't exist. No robust evidence was even offered to prove that "he" did. Goaded by the athiest side of the debate the spiritualists reacted and asked what evidence was there that "he" didn't exist? Quick as a flash one contributor (the comedian Mark Steele) said "the order in which the Beatles are dying".

What more proof do you need.

[Orior]

Perhaps there are three questions:

1) Did something create the Universe?

2) Did something create the Universe with a specific purpose?

3) Is that something keeping an eye on us?


(2) and (3) are for the Bible thumpers.

[LCohen]

Perhaps there are three questions:

1) Did something create the Universe?

2) Did something create the Universe with a specific purpose?

3) Is that something keeping an eye on us?


(2) and (3) are for the Bible thumpers.

And of course a god wouldn't provide an answer to the first question as it would just create even bigger questions - Where did the god come from? who created the god? what was this god doing with his time before he started creating the universe? 

[J70]

Even if this leads somewhere,  how could it "prove" there is no god?

Why should proof be needed that something doesn't exist?

What should be asked for is proof, or even substantial evidence of existence, but don't hold your breath.

I agree.

[muppet]

Perhaps there are three questions:

1) Did something create the Universe?

2) Did something create the Universe with a specific purpose?

3) Is that something keeping an eye on us?


(2) and (3) are for the Bible thumpers.

And of course a god wouldn't provide an answer to the first question as it would just create even bigger questions - Where did the god come from? who created the god? what was this god doing with his time before he started creating the universe?

In fairness these type of further questions would also apply to any scientific answer.

[J70]

Perhaps there are three questions:

1) Did something create the Universe?

2) Did something create the Universe with a specific purpose?

3) Is that something keeping an eye on us?


(2) and (3) are for the Bible thumpers.

And of course a god wouldn't provide an answer to the first question as it would just create even bigger questions - Where did the god come from? who created the god? what was this god doing with his time before he started creating the universe?

In fairness these type of further questions would also apply to any scientific answer.

True, but at least science deals in plausibility. And if science ever does solve the origin of the universe, the fig leaf offering cover to those appealing to god-caused origins and events will be getting pretty damn miniscule.

[heganboy]

"so God created the universe then Father, who created God?"

[seafoid]

When did time start ?

[Lar Naparka]

"so God created the universe then Father, who created God?"

"No Son, he did not, according to Stephen Hawking anyway.  Hawking says God did not create the universe. It created itself all out of nothing about 13.7 billion years ago."

[Fiodoir Ard Mhacha]

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2017/may/07/stephen-fry-investigated-by-irish-police-for-alleged-blasphemy

May as well investigate practically every contributor to that show. Or, indeed, half the country.

[mrdeeds]

I read Richard Dawkins book the God Delusions and was majorly dissapointed. Just full of hypothetical arguements and no questions answered.

Isn't there a theory some scientists have that life is more or less a computer programme and that there have being glitches found to prove it? Can't remember where I read it.

[seafoid]

Humans are herd animals. That is why there is Fianna Fáil.
Most people want to belong, to share values. That is why there is religion.
Maybe there is a God. Or Gods. Maybe nature is in charge. Maybe it is all pointless.

[The Stallion]

God has served up a lovely day out there lads, enjoy it.

[LCohen]

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2017/may/07/stephen-fry-investigated-by-irish-police-for-alleged-blasphemy

May as well investigate practically every contributor to that show. Or, indeed, half the country.

Great stuff. Given that the complainant was not offended I wonder are they motivated by exposing the shear folly of the blasphemy law. In which case good luck to them

[From the Bunker]

Humans are herd animals. That is why there is Fianna Fáil.
Most people want to belong, to share values. That is why there is religion.
Maybe there is a God. Or Gods. Maybe nature is in charge. Maybe it is all pointless.

Love that one!