Gaaboard team of the last 25 years

Started by ONeill, July 21, 2011, 10:40:41 PM

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muppet

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Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on July 23, 2011, 11:51:52 PM
Quote from: saffronandblue on July 23, 2011, 09:49:31 PM
Find it hard to believe that James Nallen is not even been considered for these teams.  If he was from Kerry he would have a s**t load of all Irelands and an even greater number of all stars to his name.  Mcgeeney was good and Curran might have looked flashy but James Nallen stood tall in many a Mayo team that collapsed all around him.

I gave him serious consideration but went for Moynihan. Nallen was a class act too though and there were a lot of fine centre-half backs in the period under questions. Moynihan was, in my opinion, the best defender of the modern era. You could play Nallen on the wing I guess.

Nallen a Mayo great with 2 all-stars to back it up.

Would you pick him CHB ahead of McGeeney or Glen Ryan or Moynihan? Each of them at their very best they were exceptional and could dominate games. Over a career they were all superb. Jeysus I couldn't even decide who to pick in that one position never mind the other 14.

Trying to be objective (removing my Mayo hat) I'd say of the 4, the Pony was the best footballer, McGeeney the best leader and most driven, Nallen the best athlete, but I'd pick Glen Ryan.
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johnpower

Quote from: johnpower on July 23, 2011, 11:56:15 PM
Quote from: Sea The Stars on July 23, 2011, 12:22:25 PM
1991 - 2011, I will say this:

1) Stephen Cluxton - Dublin

2) Seamus Moynihan - Kerry
3) Darren Fay - Meath
4) Sean Marty Lockhart - Derry

5) Paul Curran - Dublin
6) Keiran McGeeney - Armagh
7) Sean Og De Paor - Galway

8) John McDermott - Meath
9) Dara O'Se - Kerry

10) Trevor Giles - Meath
11) Ciaran McDonald - Mayo
12) Graham Geraghty - Meath

13) Colm Cooper - Kerry
14) Peter Canavan - Tyrone
15) Maurice Fitzgerald - Kerry

Four Meath players vs one Tyrone dosen't reflect Tyrone's dominance in the latter half of the 1991-2011 period.

Same with Kerry with only O'Se and Cooper from their noughties teams in the final line-up.

Still, the four Meath players were exceptional and are as good as anything that Meath have ever produced.

The two players who I had most difficulty omitting were Padraic Joyce and Ollie Murphy. 

Other players who I considered (in no particular order):
Goalkeeper: John O'Leary.
Defence: Marc O'Se, Keiren McKeever, Philip Jordan, Tomas O'Se, Conor Gormely, Paddy Christie, Cathal Daly, Mark O'Reilly.
Midfielders: Ciaran Whelan, Anthony Tohill, Sean Cavanagh, Paddy Keenan, Niall Buckley, Michael Donnellan.
Forwards: Padraic Joyce, Ollie Murphy, Tommy Dowd, Stephen O'Neill, Brian McGuigan, James McCartan, Mickey Linden, Declan O'Sullivan, Ja Fallon, Stephen McDonnell, Ger Cavlan.

Not a bad team I would have Brian McGuigan at 11 and Kevin Walsh in midfield . Depends on what the criteria you want to use for the Kerry lads I judge club football performance . I think Cluxton is has made too many mistake (2003 sent off 2007 gave the ball to kerry) and go for John o Leary . Antony Lynch in my view is a better no 4 than Sean Marty .


I will name the best I have seen (no Kerry lads so no bias )

John O leary

Nialll Cahalane Darren Fay Antony Lynch
Philip Jordan Kieran McGeeny Sean Og De Paor
Kevin Walsh John McDermott
Padraic Joyce Brian McGuigan Trevor Giles
Mickey Lindon Peter Canavan Stephen McDonnell



johnpower

Quote from: muppet on July 24, 2011, 12:00:50 AM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on July 23, 2011, 11:51:52 PM
Quote from: saffronandblue on July 23, 2011, 09:49:31 PM
Find it hard to believe that James Nallen is not even been considered for these teams.  If he was from Kerry he would have a s**t load of all Irelands and an even greater number of all stars to his name.  Mcgeeney was good and Curran might have looked flashy but James Nallen stood tall in many a Mayo team that collapsed all around him.

I gave him serious consideration but went for Moynihan. Nallen was a class act too though and there were a lot of fine centre-half backs in the period under questions. Moynihan was, in my opinion, the best defender of the modern era. You could play Nallen on the wing I guess.

Nallen a Mayo great with 2 all-stars to back it up.

Would you pick him CHB ahead of McGeeney or Glen Ryan or Moynihan? Each of them at their very best they were exceptional and could dominate games. Over a career they were all superb. Jeysus I could even decide who to pick in that one position.

Trying to be objective (removing my Mayo hat) I'd say of the 4, the Pony was the best footballer, McGeeney the best leader and most driven, Nallen the best athlete, but I'd pick Glen Ryan.

A close call Ryan V McGeeny I would still have McGeeny just about but reserve the right to change my mind

RedandGreenSniper

Quote from: muppet on July 24, 2011, 12:00:50 AM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on July 23, 2011, 11:51:52 PM
Quote from: saffronandblue on July 23, 2011, 09:49:31 PM
Find it hard to believe that James Nallen is not even been considered for these teams.  If he was from Kerry he would have a s**t load of all Irelands and an even greater number of all stars to his name.  Mcgeeney was good and Curran might have looked flashy but James Nallen stood tall in many a Mayo team that collapsed all around him.

I gave him serious consideration but went for Moynihan. Nallen was a class act too though and there were a lot of fine centre-half backs in the period under questions. Moynihan was, in my opinion, the best defender of the modern era. You could play Nallen on the wing I guess.

Nallen a Mayo great with 2 all-stars to back it up.

Would you pick him CHB ahead of McGeeney or Glen Ryan or Moynihan? Each of them at their very best they were exceptional and could dominate games. Over a career they were all superb. Jeysus I couldn't even decide who to pick in that one position never mind the other 14.

Trying to be objective (removing my Mayo hat) I'd say of the 4, the Pony was the best footballer, McGeeney the best leader and most driven, Nallen the best athlete, but I'd pick Glen Ryan.

Centre-half back in the hardest to pick because it and full-back are the two specialised positions out the field whereas any other contenders have at least a couple of positions they can be placed in. Fay gets full-back easily and then I had McGeeney, Nallen and Moynihan for chb but I forget Glen Ryan, Jesus! I would have all four ahead of any of the wing-backs for what it is worth but not at wing-back, if that makes sense!
Mayo for Sam! Just don't ask me for a year

Jinxy

Quote from: ONeill on July 23, 2011, 01:26:24 AM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on July 23, 2011, 01:11:19 AM
Love these debates. Picking a team of the last 20 years is fraught with peril but no one is going to get a team everyone agrees on.

I'd go for the following:

Stephen Cluxton
Martin O'Connell Darren Fay Marc O Se
Tomas O Se Seamus Moynihan Philip Jordan
Darragh O Se Anthony Tohill
Declan O'Sullivan Padraig Joyce Graham Geraghty
Colm Cooper Peter Canavan Maurice Fitzgerald

No Tyrone hat on but I think you cannot leave Sean Cavanagh out, maybe at Geraghty's expense?

Don't be silly.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

ONeill

Geraghty was a brilliantly athletic half back. As a forward, in direct competition with Cavanagh, I'd rather have Sean on my team.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Hardy


Jinxy

If you were any use you'd be playing.

muppet

Quote from: ONeill on July 24, 2011, 09:43:04 AM
Geraghty was a brilliantly athletic half back. As a forward, in direct competition with Cavanagh, I'd rather have Sean on my team.

I'd have Geraghty as either a forward or a back ahead of Cavanagh.

I'd have Cavanagh as midfielder.
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INDIANA

1- Cluxton

2- O Malley

3- Gerry Hargan

4- Scullion

5- Curran

6- Moynihan

7- O Connell

8- Tohill

9- Daragh O Se

10- Sean Cavanagh

11- Maurice Fitz

12- James Mc Cartan

13- Bernard Flynn

14- Stephen O Neill

15- Gooch


Geraghty didnt spend long enough in one position in my view. Great player though.

Hargan might surprise people at 3 but he cleaned out most full forwards he ever marked

Honourable mentions to Ciaran Whelan, Glen Ryan, Kevin O Brien, Corkery, Dec O Sullivan, Tomas O Se, james nallen etc.


muppet

Might be better if people were banned from picking from their own county, like the Eurovision, only without Jedward.
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haze


1991-2011
S.Cluxton
T.Scullion D.Fay M'OConnell
S.Moynihan K.McGeeney T O'Se
Dara O'Se A.Tohill
O.McConville P.Joyce P.Canavan
C.Cooper M.Fitzgerald M.Lineden

Subs- O'Leary, A.Lynch, SM Lockhart, P.Jordan, G.Ryan, J.McDermott, S.Cavanagh, G.Geraghty, C.Corkery


INDIANA

Quote from: muppet on July 24, 2011, 11:29:28 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 24, 2011, 09:43:04 AM
Geraghty was a brilliantly athletic half back. As a forward, in direct competition with Cavanagh, I'd rather have Sean on my team.

I'd have Geraghty as either a forward or a back ahead of Cavanagh.

I'd have Cavanagh as midfielder.

Sean rarely plays midfield.

muppet

Quote from: INDIANA on July 24, 2011, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 24, 2011, 11:29:28 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 24, 2011, 09:43:04 AM
Geraghty was a brilliantly athletic half back. As a forward, in direct competition with Cavanagh, I'd rather have Sean on my team.

I'd have Geraghty as either a forward or a back ahead of Cavanagh.

I'd have Cavanagh as midfielder.

Sean rarely plays midfield.

How often did Geraghty play midfield?
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Rav67

Quote from: INDIANA on July 24, 2011, 11:45:19 AM
1- Cluxton

2- O Malley

3- Gerry Hargan

4- Scullion

5- Curran

6- Moynihan

7- O Connell

8- Tohill

9- Daragh O Se

10- Sean Cavanagh

11- Maurice Fitz

12- James Mc Cartan

13- Bernard Flynn

14- Stephen O Neill

15- Gooch


Geraghty didnt spend long enough in one position in my view. Great player though.

Hargan might surprise people at 3 but he cleaned out most full forwards he ever marked

Honourable mentions to Ciaran Whelan, Glen Ryan, Kevin O Brien, Corkery, Dec O Sullivan, Tomas O Se, james nallen etc.

Canavan doesn't even get an honourable mention?

For 1991 - 2011 I'd go for the following as they all were outstanding over a long period of time:

O'Leary

Gormley  Fay  O'Connell

T O'Se  McGeeney  Moynihan

Tohill   Walsh

Fitzgerald  Joyce  Giles

Linden  Canavan  Cooper