£430m of paintings stolen in Paris

Started by Hedley Lamarr, May 20, 2010, 03:09:22 PM

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ross4life

Quote from: hardstation on May 20, 2010, 09:09:16 PM
Fair fcuks. Paintings shouldn't be worth that much money anyway.

Because they have historic importance, they portray a period of human thinking, they portray a part of the artist soul, and they have a different meaning for every buyer & a lot of people buy paintings hoping they acquire value in the future

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Bogball XV

Quote from: gerry on May 20, 2010, 09:19:36 PM
Cost of a balaclava : £3

Cost of a crow bar : £10

Cost of the Picasso, Matisse sand Modigliani paintings from the Museum of Modern Art in Paris : £500,000,000

No being able to sell them on the black market : Priceless
maybe he had his buyer in advance?

David McKeown

Geoffrey Archer was talking about this earlier on Radio 5 and he was suggesting it was either an inside job or the poorest security in the world. Archer was saying that according to his intel the guy climbed up a ladder. Spent considerable time choosing which paintings he wanted then more time carefully removing them from their frames.He suggested this took a couple of hours. He also suggested these type of thefts are usually conducted by rich collectors ala Thomas Crown
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ross4life

Quote from: hardstation on May 20, 2010, 09:27:49 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 20, 2010, 09:24:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 20, 2010, 09:09:16 PM
Fair fcuks. Paintings shouldn't be worth that much money anyway.

Because they have historic importance, they portray a period of human thinking, they portray a part of the artist soul, and they have a different meaning for every buyer & a lot of people buy paintings hoping they acquire value in the future
So does the aul can of Harp I found in Milltown.

Same can be said about.... why was Monroe's gown worth so much (150,000) or why was The oldest existing version of the FA Cup sold for 420,000?

Paintings are no different than these examples

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Tony Baloney

Quote from: Bogball XV on May 20, 2010, 09:25:31 PM
Quote from: gerry on May 20, 2010, 09:19:36 PM
Cost of a balaclava : £3

Cost of a crow bar : £10

Cost of the Picasso, Matisse sand Modigliani paintings from the Museum of Modern Art in Paris : £500,000,000

No being able to sell them on the black market : Priceless
maybe he had his buyer in advance?
Like high value cars stolen in creeper burglaries up and down Ireland, these are almost certainly stolen to order.

It stinks of an inside job but it's just so obvious that you wonder how they thought they'd get away with it. These places must be inspected all the time by the insurers to ensure they have a belt and braces approach to security. Climbing a ladder, breaking a window and helping yourself is just too simple.

Capt Pat

They have obviously not been stolen for resale, that would not be possible. Some rich businessman either legitimate or illegitimate has decided he would like these paintings for himself. They probably paid a criminal associate or gang a large fee to carry it out. The paintings are now on their way to the basement of a large mansion in Russia, USA, Sicily, China or a South American rain forest. If not then they are more trouble than they are worth and will move around variius hiding places and turn up in the back of a white van in a couple of years.

JUst retired

Would that be the same white van that was used in theUlster bank robbery? ;D

Hardy

Quote from: JUst retired on May 21, 2010, 07:50:10 AM
Would that be the same white van that was used in theUlster bank robbery? ;D

Now that you mention it, I saw smoke coming from a back garden in Passage West this morning and bits of burning canvas floating in the air.

Billys Boots

QuoteNow that you mention it, I saw smoke coming from a back garden in Passage West this morning and bits of burning canvas floating in the air.

Probably the anti-incinerator folk.  ::)
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stew

Quote from: Bogball XV on May 20, 2010, 08:59:47 PM
Quote from: stew on May 20, 2010, 08:15:32 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 20, 2010, 03:38:25 PM
The security guard was asleep on the job, he is fond of his booze, a bit of a piss artist by all accounts.

The secuity guard, yer man steals 430 millions worth of art from some of the greats and they have One security guard on?

Has to be an inside job, somebody was helping this guy.

They will get him, this is too high profile a case for them to lose such paintings.
dear jaysus stew, dear jaysus......  You sure you haven't been smoking a bit of weed or something?
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 20, 2010, 05:12:44 PM
The robbers shouldn't Dali as there is a lot of Monet at stake here.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone Turner's them in to the nearest Constable.
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Aerlik

It'll be interesting to know the type of intrusion detection systems that were being used in the museum.  Everything from Passive Infrared to Ultrasonic and microwave sensors, breakglass sensors, proximity sensors and pressure sensors should have/must have been deployed.  For the thief to seemingly just saunter in, choose his products, scratch his arse, have a fag then leave just, to me, reeks of collaboration, or perhaps a dodgy IDS installer having scoped the place for yonks then made his move.

Regarding the sale of such artwork, it has clearly either been stolen to order or the thief has done such a job before and will contact willing buyers. 
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