Rule Change Needed to Stop Puke Keep-Ball

[thewobbler]

So by the grace of God we've ended up with the perfect game, the only in the world that never needs its rules adapted as humans get quicker, bigger, stronger, smarter.

Well done us. Quite the accomplishment when you think about it.

[trailer]

So by the grace of God we've ended up with the perfect game, the only in the world that never needs its rules adapted as humans get quicker, bigger, stronger, smarter.

Well done us. Quite the accomplishment when you think about it.

Of course not. But you're looking to change something because another team is better than the rest. So by that reckoning FIFA should outlaw 5 foot passes in a row because Juventus keep winning Serie A. That's what you are looking to do.

[sid waddell]

So by the grace of God we've ended up with the perfect game, the only in the world that never needs its rules adapted as humans get quicker, bigger, stronger, smarter.

Apparently one set of humans can't possibly be expected to be quick enough, big enough, strong enough or smart enough to get a football back off another set of humans.

At least if we listen to you!

[longballin]

Those advocating for a rule change on this issue are simply saying the big boys have taken our ball and they won't give it back. It's yapping at a professional level.

Now there are other issues and some people are getting confused between a good team keeping the ball off another team and Gaelic football as a spectacle in general. Venue's, home advantage etc are all things that can be sorted out relatively easily, but to want to change the entire fabric of the game because one team is better than another is complete and utter madness. And some of the "proposals" coming from people on this thread are absolutely ridiculous. Shot clocks, limiting hand passes, not crossing back over half way and a combination of some or all of those. Idea's written on the bag of a fag packet and frankly that's where they should remain.

McGuinness and Harte have ruined the game, so be it, there are other sports to watch and club football is for the most part ok despite attempts by some 'expert' coaches to ape that rubbish.

[trailer]

Those advocating for a rule change on this issue are simply saying the big boys have taken our ball and they won't give it back. It's yapping at a professional level.

Now there are other issues and some people are getting confused between a good team keeping the ball off another team and Gaelic football as a spectacle in general. Venue's, home advantage etc are all things that can be sorted out relatively easily, but to want to change the entire fabric of the game because one team is better than another is complete and utter madness. And some of the "proposals" coming from people on this thread are absolutely ridiculous. Shot clocks, limiting hand passes, not crossing back over half way and a combination of some or all of those. Idea's written on the bag of a fag packet and frankly that's where they should remain.

McGuinness and Harte have ruined the game, so be it, there are other sports to watch and club football is for the most part ok despite attempts by some 'expert' coaches to ape that rubbish.

Yes it's all McGuinness and Harte's fault. Even though your issue is with Dublin keeping the ball.

[longballin]

Those advocating for a rule change on this issue are simply saying the big boys have taken our ball and they won't give it back. It's yapping at a professional level.

Now there are other issues and some people are getting confused between a good team keeping the ball off another team and Gaelic football as a spectacle in general. Venue's, home advantage etc are all things that can be sorted out relatively easily, but to want to change the entire fabric of the game because one team is better than another is complete and utter madness. And some of the "proposals" coming from people on this thread are absolutely ridiculous. Shot clocks, limiting hand passes, not crossing back over half way and a combination of some or all of those. Idea's written on the bag of a fag packet and frankly that's where they should remain.

McGuinness and Harte have ruined the game, so be it, there are other sports to watch and club football is for the most part ok despite attempts by some 'expert' coaches to ape that rubbish.

Yes it's all McGuinness and Harte's fault. Even though your issue is with Dublin keeping the ball.

yeah was awful to see Dubs go to that level as well as they usually hold true to the values of the game.

[BennyHarp]

I think we should just bite the bullet and invent a new game that consists entirely of making rules to counteract any attempt at tactical innovation. Once the game starts the opposition have 5 rule changes that they can make in each half to stop the opposition getting any sort of advantage. Every rule change is then unilaterally adopted nationally for the next series of games. I think that should keep most people happy. Ultimately, we should end up with a game whereby one player has 1.25 seconds on a stop watch to kick the ball as high as he can, if the ball lands within 65 metres of the kicker his team loses the game. Game over nice and quickly so we can all get back home to watch the hurling, which ironically doesn't appear to have any specific rules.

[westbound]

Just make the ball lighter/smaller so that it can be kicked over the bar from 65metres.

Problems solved!

[thewobbler]

Did any of fellas play football before kicking freed from the hand came in?

The game was similarly bucked at that time.

[highorlow]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-2015-we-run-the-rule-over-the-various-rule-changes-since-1990/news-story/d1d79e8ee7f4aa6033f94557a8a84dbb

[sid waddell]

Those advocating for a rule change on this issue are simply saying the big boys have taken our ball and they won't give it back. It's yapping at a professional level.

Now there are other issues and some people are getting confused between a good team keeping the ball off another team and Gaelic football as a spectacle in general. Venue's, home advantage etc are all things that can be sorted out relatively easily, but to want to change the entire fabric of the game because one team is better than another is complete and utter madness. And some of the "proposals" coming from people on this thread are absolutely ridiculous. Shot clocks, limiting hand passes, not crossing back over half way and a combination of some or all of those. Idea's written on the bag of a fag packet and frankly that's where they should remain.

McGuinness and Harte have ruined the game, so be it, there are other sports to watch and club football is for the most part ok despite attempts by some 'expert' coaches to ape that rubbish.

Yes it's all McGuinness and Harte's fault. Even though your issue is with Dublin keeping the ball.

yeah was awful to see Dubs go to that level as well as they usually hold true to the values of the game.

What are the "values of the game"?

Where are these "values of the game" written down?

Any chance of a link to them?

[Rossfan]

The 2 rugby codes are possession games but have a tackle on the man who has to release the ball in Union or gets 5 plays in League.
Gaelic was a catch and kick game which has turned totally into a possession game but tackle rules never changed.
Exasperated by allowing ball carrier abuse the 4 steps rule and the ball carrier can assault would be tacklers without sanction.

[BennyHarp]

Did any of fellas play football before kicking freed from the hand came in?

The game was similarly bucked at that time.

That was a rule change that was easy to ref, easy to implement and didn't disrupt the flow of the game. It wasn't designed to counteract any tactical innovation bought to the game and just made common sense. However, it did also have the side effect of nearly killing the art of free kicking off the ground. All rules have side effects and the idea of bringing in a rule or rules because some team have used a particular tactic just doesn't sit well with me. Count down clocks for tackling, no back passes, no going back into your own half etc are all well intended but are all riddled with unintended consequences.

[sid waddell]

I think we should just bite the bullet and invent a new game that consists entirely of making rules to counteract any attempt at tactical innovation. Once the game starts the opposition have 5 rule changes that they can make in each half to stop the opposition getting any sort of advantage. Every rule change is then unilaterally adopted nationally for the next series of games. I think that should keep most people happy. Ultimately, we should end up with a game whereby one player has 1.25 seconds on a stop watch to kick the ball as high as he can, if the ball lands within 65 metres of the kicker his team loses the game. Game over nice and quickly so we can all get back home to watch the hurling, which ironically doesn't appear to have any specific rules.

Dr Eamonn O'Sullivan, commonly referred to as one of the great "thinkers" of the game, was very particular that each player should have a zone which they should not stray out of.

So, why not make this official and bring in 15 lined zones within which each player must stay at all times?

That would bring back the traditional catch and kick and game and make sure of 14 genuine one on one contests.

It would also make the game like netball, which I know is what we all want.

[longballin]

Those advocating for a rule change on this issue are simply saying the big boys have taken our ball and they won't give it back. It's yapping at a professional level.

Now there are other issues and some people are getting confused between a good team keeping the ball off another team and Gaelic football as a spectacle in general. Venue's, home advantage etc are all things that can be sorted out relatively easily, but to want to change the entire fabric of the game because one team is better than another is complete and utter madness. And some of the "proposals" coming from people on this thread are absolutely ridiculous. Shot clocks, limiting hand passes, not crossing back over half way and a combination of some or all of those. Idea's written on the bag of a fag packet and frankly that's where they should remain.

McGuinness and Harte have ruined the game, so be it, there are other sports to watch and club football is for the most part ok despite attempts by some 'expert' coaches to ape that rubbish.

Yes it's all McGuinness and Harte's fault. Even though your issue is with Dublin keeping the ball.

yeah was awful to see Dubs go to that level as well as they usually hold true to the values of the game.

What are the "values of the game"?

Where are these "values of the game" written down?

Any chance of a link to them?

values aren't written... is like fair play etc. Gaelic football used to be about attacking, flair, having a go... now it's a huge game of chess and you're welcome to it