The Many Faces of US Politics...

[J70]

So couldn't be arsed going back through all these pages to find an answer but is Sanders not the fecking obvious choice to be next president? I have very limited politics knowledge so I could be wrong btw, but just looking in as an outsider he seems the right choice. My facebook gets lit up everyday about all the reasons why Trump and Clinton shouldn't be president. Their supporters are not promoting what they can do, rather what the other can't do and bringing up countless things they've done in the past to discount them.

Again I could be wrong but anything I see about Sanders is positive and he has always the 'peoples' interests at heart. Anyone care to enlighten me? What are thoughts on Sanders? Is it the 'dumb yank' mentality? Republican v Democrat?

Agree with you about Sanders, he certainly looks like the best candidate by a long way.

He is but he's too radical for the rich so he has no superdelegates.
Clinton is the establishment candidate at a time when the people are sick of the establishment

Bernie is also a socialist which many here (rightly or wrongly) equate with communism.  Bernies case isnt helped by the fact he had his honeymoon in the old USSR at the height of the Cold War.

He did??

[ballela-angel]

He was mayor of Burlington at the time and went to a sister city  there as part of a 10 person delegation and made it his "honeymoon"

[seafoid]

He was mayor of Burlington at the time and went to a sister city  there as part of a 10 person delegation and made it his "honeymoon"

big deal. He never took money from the Kochs

[ballela-angel]

You are correct, it was no big deal -I guess I had not written my reply in such a way to reflect that - As a side note, we later tried to sister Burlington with Newry, but I'd didn't work out6

[whitey]

You are correct, it was no big deal -I guess I had not written my reply in such a way to reflect that - As a side note, we later tried to sister Burlington with Newry, but I'd didn't work out6

It's s big deal for the people who think socialism is communism

[omaghjoe]

He was mayor of Burlington at the time and went to a sister city  there as part of a 10 person delegation and made it his "honeymoon"

How did his missus let him away with that one?

[Gmac]

He was mayor of Burlington at the time and went to a sister city  there as part of a 10 person delegation and made it his "honeymoon"

How did his missus let him away with that one?

Probably because It was free ,socialist = let someone else pay for me sums him up perfectly

[omaghjoe]

He was mayor of Burlington at the time and went to a sister city  there as part of a 10 person delegation and made it his "honeymoon"

How did his missus let him away with that one?

Probably because It was free ,socialist = let someone else pay for me sums him up perfectly

As opposed to the brown envelopes and "contributions" of his adversaries?

[whitey]

He was mayor of Burlington at the time and went to a sister city  there as part of a 10 person delegation and made it his "honeymoon"

How did his missus let him away with that one?

Probably because It was free ,socialist = let someone else pay for me sums him up perfectly

As opposed to the brown envelopes and "contributions" of his adversaries?

A career politician who's never worked ONE DAY in the private sector, advocating socialism and redistribution makes many people VERY nervous.

[omaghjoe]

He was mayor of Burlington at the time and went to a sister city  there as part of a 10 person delegation and made it his "honeymoon"

How did his missus let him away with that one?

Probably because It was free ,socialist = let someone else pay for me sums him up perfectly

As opposed to the brown envelopes and "contributions" of his adversaries?

A career politician who's never worked ONE DAY in the private sector, advocating socialism and redistribution makes many people VERY nervous.

Would someone who has spent their whole career in politics not likely more know about politics than someone who hasnt?

[whitey]

He was mayor of Burlington at the time and went to a sister city  there as part of a 10 person delegation and made it his "honeymoon"

How did his missus let him away with that one?

Probably because It was free ,socialist = let someone else pay for me sums him up perfectly

As opposed to the brown envelopes and "contributions" of his adversaries?

A career politician who's never worked ONE DAY in the private sector, advocating socialism and redistribution makes many people VERY nervous.

Would someone who has spent their whole career in politics not likely more know about politics than someone who hasnt?

No. The State of IL would be a perfect example of career politicians running a state into the ground

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2014/03/politics-illinois

A career politician has one goal when he or she is elected ....get re-elected. They get re-elected not by making tough decisions, but by perpetuating unsustainable spending programs till finally a day of reckoning comes

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/11/19/opinion/frank-bruni-from-profits-to-politics.html?referer=

[omaghjoe]

He was mayor of Burlington at the time and went to a sister city  there as part of a 10 person delegation and made it his "honeymoon"

How did his missus let him away with that one?

Probably because It was free ,socialist = let someone else pay for me sums him up perfectly

As opposed to the brown envelopes and "contributions" of his adversaries?

A career politician who's never worked ONE DAY in the private sector, advocating socialism and redistribution makes many people VERY nervous.

Would someone who has spent their whole career in politics not likely more know about politics than someone who hasnt?

No. The State of IL would be a perfect example of career politicians running a state into the ground

Please expand

[whitey]

See above

[omaghjoe]

See above

Oh thanks that was helpful. Firatly let me explain, you see as far as I know Illinois is still there and functioning, I get sent jobs of interest  from there from time to time so assume the economy is in stout shape? I dont know one politician from there. I know theres a bad gun and gang problem in Chicago, I dont know if thats what you are talking about but fail to see how politicians with private sector experience could exasperate that problem.

So I would love it if you could relate Illinois to Bernie Sanders being a poor performing politician.

[whitey]

See above

Oh thanks that was helpful. Firatly let me explain, you see as far as I know Illinois is still there and functioning, I get sent jobs of interest  from there from time to time so assume the economy is in stout shape? I dont know one politician from there. I know theres a bad gun and gang problem in Chicago, I dont know if thats what you are talking about but fail to see how politicians with private sector experience could exasperate that problem.

So I would love it if you could relate Illinois to Bernie Sanders being a poor performing politician.

http://www.gregharris.org/wp/news/budget/illinois-democrats-consider-painful-cuts-for-friends-and-allies-as-budget-crisis-continues/

"Many states, particularly those led by Republicans, have taken drastic steps to fix their budgets, including cutting spending and requiring public employees to contribute more to their benefits. In some cases, the cutbacks triggered huge protests last year at state capitols by public employees and advocates for the poor.

But Illinois, where Democrats control the governor's office and both houses of the Legislature, flinched, taking only limited steps. Now, with the state staggering under a backlog of $9 billion in unpaid bills, leaders again face the awkward task of inflicting pain on their friends."




I can bold text on this device....but per the author, who knows better than you or I, and who is a Democratic State Rep......IL IS STAGGERING UNDER A BACKLOG OF $9B IN UNPAID BILLS.