Brexit.

Started by T Fearon, November 01, 2015, 06:04:06 PM

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haranguerer

the change is significant is it? no divergence is pretty unequivocal, whereas alignment doesn't have to be

seafoid

The Irish Gov is playing this one very well. Deserves a hurling all star.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/04/ireland-no-go-ahead-for-brexit-talks-to-move-on

Asked if she was seeking the impossible from the UK, McEntee said all the Irish government was asking for was "for the UK government to fulfil their commitment" to no hard border as set out in May's Florence speech.

McEntee said it was "not just a customs issue", but also had to be tackled to avoid any future unrest. "We're talking about a return to something of the past where there were huge troubles," she said. "We do not want anything that would trigger any kind of a return to the difficulties of the past." :)

seafoid

#3287
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/04/brexit-talks-deadline-no-breakthrough-ireland-theresa-may-heads/


Britain and the European Union are understood to have agreed there will be regulatory alignment on the island of Ireland to ensure there is no hard border between Northern and Southern Ireland.

Philippe Lamberts, a Belgian MEP,  said that the draft text he had seen on Ireland agrees to "full alignment".

The two sides look very close to a deal on Brexit, with EU officials saying there is an "80 per cent chance and rising" of a settlement to kickstart trade talks.


Nicola Sturgeon(@NicolaSturgeon)

Right now, Ireland is powerfully demonstrating the importance of being independent when it comes to defending your vital national interests



johnneycool

Quote from: seafoid on December 04, 2017, 12:25:21 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/04/brexit-talks-deadline-no-breakthrough-ireland-theresa-may-heads/


Britain and the European Union are understood to have agreed there will be regulatory alignment on the island of Ireland to ensure there is no hard border between Northern and Southern Ireland.

Philippe Lamberts, a Belgian MEP,  said that the draft text he had seen on Ireland agrees to "full alignment".

The two sides look very close to a deal on Brexit, with EU officials saying there is an "80 per cent chance and rising" of a settlement to kickstart trade talks.


Nicola Sturgeon(@NicolaSturgeon)

Right now, Ireland is powerfully demonstrating the importance of being independent when it comes to defending your vital national interests

Tory mouth on the BBC reporting the same. Her handlers must have let her put it up there.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42221742

seafoid

Quote from: johnneycool on December 04, 2017, 12:36:03 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 04, 2017, 12:25:21 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/04/brexit-talks-deadline-no-breakthrough-ireland-theresa-may-heads/


Britain and the European Union are understood to have agreed there will be regulatory alignment on the island of Ireland to ensure there is no hard border between Northern and Southern Ireland.

Philippe Lamberts, a Belgian MEP,  said that the draft text he had seen on Ireland agrees to "full alignment".

The two sides look very close to a deal on Brexit, with EU officials saying there is an "80 per cent chance and rising" of a settlement to kickstart trade talks.


Nicola Sturgeon(@NicolaSturgeon)

Right now, Ireland is powerfully demonstrating the importance of being independent when it comes to defending your vital national interests

Tory mouth on the BBC reporting the same. Her handlers must have let her put it up there.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42221742
For years being tied to the UK was all upside. Now the needs of England are more important than the needs of the DUP.

The UUP must be loving this 

The name of the game is power.

https://youtu.be/L3vvn2qOh58

heganboy

Key phrase "no regulatory divergence"

If we get "continued alignment" that's a fudge and means nothing to anybody, other than a hurdle passed by May.

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

Real Talk

Quote from: heganboy on December 04, 2017, 12:58:20 PM
Key phrase "no regulatory divergence"

If we get "continued alignment" that's a fudge and means nothing to anybody, other than a hurdle passed by May.



Correct, All-Ireland has won nothing yet

Syferus

#3292
Quote from: Real Talk on December 04, 2017, 01:10:06 PM
Quote from: heganboy on December 04, 2017, 12:58:20 PM
Key phrase "no regulatory divergence"

If we get "continued alignment" that's a fudge and means nothing to anybody, other than a hurdle passed by May.



Correct, All-Ireland has won nothing yet

We wanted the flexibility the term gives us. It is only a fudge in that it gives us freedom in the event the UK get some fantasy sweetheart trade deal with the EU.

The UK conceded. We won. LV has done more to bring about a united Ireland in a weekend with a pen than Adams has in a lifetime of bloodshed. Get that through your heads.

OgraAnDun

Quote from: Syferus on December 04, 2017, 01:31:31 PM
Quote from: Real Talk on December 04, 2017, 01:10:06 PM
Quote from: heganboy on December 04, 2017, 12:58:20 PM
Key phrase "no regulatory divergence"

If we get "continued alignment" that's a fudge and means nothing to anybody, other than a hurdle passed by May.



Correct, All-Ireland has won nothing yet

We wanted the flexibility the term gives us. It is only a fudge in that it gives us freedom in the event the UK get some fantasy sweetheart trade deal with the EU.

The UK conceded. We won. LV has done more to bring about a United Ireland in a weekend than Adams has in a lifetime of bloodshed. Get that through your heads.

Without the GFA, which was brought about in part by Adams, there would have been no international legal basis for special status for the north. Therefore LV is simply building on the work of Adams.

The Gs Man

Oohh Ahh, up the.... Regulatory Alignment
Keep 'er lit

johnneycool

Quote from: Real Talk on December 04, 2017, 01:10:06 PM
Quote from: heganboy on December 04, 2017, 12:58:20 PM
Key phrase "no regulatory divergence"

If we get "continued alignment" that's a fudge and means nothing to anybody, other than a hurdle passed by May.



Correct, All-Ireland has won nothing yet

True, we've seen British double speak long enough to know not to believe a word of it until its acted out.
This time but they're not just dealing with the Shinners and reneging on things in the St Andrews agreements as there's no comeback.
This time its the EU and "no regulatory divergence" will be spelled out in black and white and enforced from Brussels rather than James Connolly House or even the Dail.

Rawhide

Quote from: Syferus on December 04, 2017, 01:31:31 PM
Quote from: Real Talk on December 04, 2017, 01:10:06 PM
Quote from: heganboy on December 04, 2017, 12:58:20 PM
Key phrase "no regulatory divergence"

If we get "continued alignment" that's a fudge and means nothing to anybody, other than a hurdle passed by May.



Correct, All-Ireland has won nothing yet

We wanted the flexibility the term gives us. It is only a fudge in that it gives us freedom in the event the UK get some fantasy sweetheart trade deal with the EU.

The UK conceded. We won. LV has done more to bring about a united Ireland in a weekend with a pen than Adams has in a lifetime of bloodshed. Get that through your heads.

the two words 'ass' and 'hole' when put together are for people like you.
cccc is a true supporter lol

Syferus

Quote from: Rawhide on December 04, 2017, 01:35:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 04, 2017, 01:31:31 PM
Quote from: Real Talk on December 04, 2017, 01:10:06 PM
Quote from: heganboy on December 04, 2017, 12:58:20 PM
Key phrase "no regulatory divergence"

If we get "continued alignment" that's a fudge and means nothing to anybody, other than a hurdle passed by May.



Correct, All-Ireland has won nothing yet

We wanted the flexibility the term gives us. It is only a fudge in that it gives us freedom in the event the UK get some fantasy sweetheart trade deal with the EU.

The UK conceded. We won. LV has done more to bring about a united Ireland in a weekend with a pen than Adams has in a lifetime of bloodshed. Get that through your heads.

the two words 'ass' and 'hole' when put together are for people like you.

What a pointless, childish post.

HiMucker

Quote from: Syferus on December 04, 2017, 01:38:27 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on December 04, 2017, 01:35:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 04, 2017, 01:31:31 PM
Quote from: Real Talk on December 04, 2017, 01:10:06 PM
Quote from: heganboy on December 04, 2017, 12:58:20 PM
Key phrase "no regulatory divergence"

If we get "continued alignment" that's a fudge and means nothing to anybody, other than a hurdle passed by May.



Correct, All-Ireland has won nothing yet

We wanted the flexibility the term gives us. It is only a fudge in that it gives us freedom in the event the UK get some fantasy sweetheart trade deal with the EU.

The UK conceded. We won. LV has done more to bring about a united Ireland in a weekend with a pen than Adams has in a lifetime of bloodshed. Get that through your heads.

the two words 'ass' and 'hole' when put together are for people like you.

What a pointless, childish post.
Fair play to you to admit that.  Are you withdrawing your post then?

armaghniac

Today's events are the outcome of  the Anglo-Irish agreement signed by Garrett Fitzgerald and Margaret Thatcher in 1985 and of course Margaret Thatcher drove the concept of the Single Market. So Thatcher might need to be upgraded as well as FG, Adams did not contribute to either.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B