Brexit.

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Minder

Quote from: screenexile on January 17, 2017, 01:05:29 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 17, 2017, 12:57:13 PM
I don't get the "unelected PM" that we have been hearing, as if she has no right to act on this. Cameron left, there was a vote to elect a new leader of Tories, and thereby a new PM. Thems the rules.

What was the alternative, no PM until the next general election ?!

A new general election!

What would trigger it ?!
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

armaghniac

Quote from: Minder on January 17, 2017, 12:57:13 PM
I don't get the "unelected PM" that we have been hearing, as if she has no right to act on this. Cameron left, there was a vote to elect a new leader of Tories, and thereby a new PM. Thems the rules.

What was the alternative, no PM until the next general election ?!

There is an issue here though, in the government policies have changed hugely, with minimal discussion in the parliament never mind an election.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B


seafoid

Danny McCoy, chief executive of Ibec, said:

The possibility of the UK leaving both the single market and the customs union raises fundamental questions about Ireland's future trading relations with the UK. A return to WTO rules would be a significant economic shock to the economy and would hit Irish exporters hard. It would also set the UK and Ireland on very different economic trajectories. In the interest of maintaining good business relations, it is vital that the UK Government sets out in more detail how the serious challenges presented by a hard Brexit might be addressed, including the impact on cross border trade on the island of Ireland.
This is an aggressive move by the UK, showing little regard for our trading relationship and for relations with other EU member states. Theresa May has signalled a change to the UK business model, away from a collective European rules-based approach, towards a more nationalistic, isolated stance. This is likely to lead to a protracted and unwelcome period of uncertainty and instability for business. Ireland is uniquely exposed to the risks given out deep economic ties with the UK.

bennydorano

Sterling currently up 1.5% on the € since May's announcement:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business/market_data/currency/default.stm

Markets want clarity as much as anything else by the looks of it.

Franko

Seems to be the case.

Sunday & Monday: Pound falls 2% on news that Theresa May is going to announce hard Brexit.

Tuesday: Pound rises 2% on news that Theresa May has announced hard Brexit.

Markets are fcuked up.

magpie seanie

Quote from: Franko on January 17, 2017, 01:57:36 PM
Seems to be the case.

Sunday & Monday: Pound falls 2% on news that Theresa May is going to announce hard Brexit.

Tuesday: Pound rises 2% on news that Theresa May has announced hard Brexit.

Markets are fcuked up.

She's looking for a hard Brexit with a soft centre. Common sense will prevail after all the posturing and hand wringing. The position she set out is reasonable if very lacking in detail.

ashman

Quote from: Franko on January 17, 2017, 01:57:36 PM
Seems to be the case.

Sunday & Monday: Pound falls 2% on news that Theresa May is going to announce hard Brexit.

Tuesday: Pound rises 2% on news that Theresa May has announced hard Brexit.

Markets are fcuked up.

Self serving ???

seafoid

Peter Grant, the SNP MP and a member of the Commons select committee for exiting the European Union, has signalled that the SNP will push for another vote. Speaking in the House of Commons he warned David Davis that government plans for the UK tol leave the single market leaves Scotland with no choice but to seek independence
If the prime minister leaves Scotland with only one option to remain in the EU, Scotland will take it
He reminds MPs that 62 per cent of Scots voted to remain part of the EU in the referendum last year.

seafoid

UKIP had 2 key policies at the last election. 1 get the UK out of the EU 2 bring back grammar schools
The Tories adopted both


Nigel Farage

@Nigel_Farage
I can hardly believe that the PM is now using the phrases and words that I've been mocked for using for years. Real progress

magpie seanie

#2275
Quote from: seafoid on January 17, 2017, 03:19:20 PM
Peter Grant, the SNP MP and a member of the Commons select committee for exiting the European Union, has signalled that the SNP will push for another vote. Speaking in the House of Commons he warned David Davis that government plans for the UK tol leave the single market leaves Scotland with no choice but to seek independence
If the prime minister leaves Scotland with only one option to remain in the EU, Scotland will take it
He reminds MPs that 62 per cent of Scots voted to remain part of the EU in the referendum last year.

Scotland had their chance to be independent but didn't take it. They are a region of the UK. They need to suck it up. Most nations had to fight for their freedom. They were offered it via a vote and they bottled it....no sympathy for them.

seafoid

The DUP are for the birds
   
   https://www.ft.com/content/3d0fdb18-d97b-11e6-944b-e7eb37a6aa8e

   Mrs May has pledged that "there will be no return to the borders of the past" in Ireland. But officials in Dublin say they will remain sceptical until she reveals more on how Northern Ireland will fare after the UK formally leaves the EU. It was set to receive €3.4bn from EU budget funding between 2014 and 2020; some of that aid from Brussels is now in jeopardy.

No wides

Quote from: magpie seanie on January 17, 2017, 03:24:59 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 17, 2017, 03:19:20 PM
Peter Grant, the SNP MP and a member of the Commons select committee for exiting the European Union, has signalled that the SNP will push for another vote. Speaking in the House of Commons he warned David Davis that government plans for the UK tol leave the single market leaves Scotland with no choice but to seek independence
If the prime minister leaves Scotland with only one option to remain in the EU, Scotland will take it
He reminds MPs that 62 per cent of Scots voted to remain part of the EU in the referendum last year.

Scotland had their chance to be independent but didn't take it. They are a region of the UK. They need to suck it up. Most nations had to fight for their freedom. They were offered it via a vote and they bottled it....no sympathy for them.

Great quote, I am glad May has went for the hard stance, anything else the EU would have saw them as weak and screwed them over.

NAG1

#2278
Quote from: No wides on January 17, 2017, 03:33:55 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 17, 2017, 03:24:59 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 17, 2017, 03:19:20 PM
Peter Grant, the SNP MP and a member of the Commons select committee for exiting the European Union, has signalled that the SNP will push for another vote. Speaking in the House of Commons he warned David Davis that government plans for the UK tol leave the single market leaves Scotland with no choice but to seek independence
If the prime minister leaves Scotland with only one option to remain in the EU, Scotland will take it
He reminds MPs that 62 per cent of Scots voted to remain part of the EU in the referendum last year.

Scotland had their chance to be independent but didn't take it. They are a region of the UK. They need to suck it up. Most nations had to fight for their freedom. They were offered it via a vote and they bottled it....no sympathy for them.

Great quote, I am glad May has went for the hard stance, anything else the EU would have saw them as weak and screwed them over.


I think they have done a good enough job of that themselves, without the EU countries having to do anything yet.

Rossfan

Some closet Brits here it seems. :o
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM