Brexit.

[NAG1]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36430606

I don't think Corbyns stance on it had any bearing

"Mr Corbyn said the Labour message was "loud and clear", that the Conservative Party was a bigger threat to the country than the European Union was, and that whether on workers' rights, the environment, or renewable energy, Britain can achieve more progressive policies working with other countries in the EU than alone.
But as part of his "Remain and Reform" agenda, the Labour leader listed almost as many downsides with the EU as positives."

He was throwing these types of mixed signals out in nearly every interview I saw with him on this issue.

[Minder]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36430606

I don't think Corbyns stance on it had any bearing

"Mr Corbyn said the Labour message was "loud and clear", that the Conservative Party was a bigger threat to the country than the European Union was, and that whether on workers' rights, the environment, or renewable energy, Britain can achieve more progressive policies working with other countries in the EU than alone.
But as part of his "Remain and Reform" agenda, the Labour leader listed almost as many downsides with the EU as positives."

He was throwing these types of mixed signals out in nearly every interview I saw with him on this issue.

I don't think it made any difference.

This is an article from before the vote, the response Labour where getting in their own backyard

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/14/brexit-will-hurt-your-city-labour-tells-core-voters-but-no-ones-listening

[Walter Cronc]

Some very disturbing tweets regarding an increase in racism across the UK since last Friday.

The video in a Manchester tram is particularly nasty.

[muppet]

Some very disturbing tweets regarding an increase in racism across the UK since last Friday.

The video in a Manchester tram is particularly nasty.

The leadership vacuum makes this a particularly dangerous time. The risk is that someone or some group with a liking for violence quickly emerges and takes the immigrant issue into their own hands.

[muppet]

http://liveblog.irishtimes.com/ca62d79959/LIVE-EU-summit/#utm_sguid=167447,e828d19c-f8e6-107e-ce9e-006d35aea4e2

After a debate between Parliament's political group leaders, EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker and Dutch minister Jeanine Hennis-Plasschaert, representing the EU Council's rotating presidency, Parliament voted a resolution on ways forward after the UK referendum on June 23rd. The text was approved by 395 to 200, with 71 abstentions.

The resolution called on the UK government to respect its people's democratic decision via a swift and coherent implementation of the withdrawal procedure, i.e. by activating Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union so as to allow withdrawal negotiations to start as soon as possible.

"To prevent damaging uncertainty for everyone and to protect the Union's integrity, the UK Prime Minister should notify the outcome of the referendum to the European Council of 28-29 June in order to as soon as possible launch the withdrawal procedure (5) and negotiations, urge MEPs.," it said.

MEPs recall that the European Parliament's consent for the withdrawal agreement and any future relationship ( is required under the Treaties, and that it must be fully involved at all stages of the various procedures.

The Parliament also called on the European Council to change the order of its presidencies to prevent the withdrawal process from jeopardising the management of the day-to-day business of the Union. The UK was set to take on the presidency in the second half of 2017. (15) Parliament will also change its internal organisation to reflect UK citizens' will to withdraw from the EU (13).

The current challenges demand reform to make the Union "better and more democratic", and to "deliver what citizens expect", MEPs insist. "While some Member States may choose to integrate more slowly or to a lesser extent, the core of the EU must be reinforced and à la carte solutions should be avoided" , says the text of the resolution.

[LeoMc]

http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0628/798632-uk-brexit-politics/http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0628/798632-uk-brexit-politics/

...London's mayor says the city should move for more autonomy after a majority of Londoners voted against Britain's exit from the European Union.

"We face a long and difficult summer with a lame duck government drawn from a deeply divided party. Ironically, the speed of our exit from the EU looks likely to be decided in Brussels, Paris, and Berlin rather than in London"....


..."In the four days since the referendum around a 175,000 Londoners have signed a petition calling for London to become an independent city-state....


The UK is in serious trouble and the brilliant thing is that the DUP campaigned for it. 

More autonomy for London is very bad news for NI. More autonomy means less in transfers.

Not just NI. Wales and large parts of the Midlands and North of England could not carry their own weight if the City had its own tax raising and spending popwers.

[muppet]

http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0628/798632-uk-brexit-politics/http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0628/798632-uk-brexit-politics/

...London's mayor says the city should move for more autonomy after a majority of Londoners voted against Britain's exit from the European Union.

"We face a long and difficult summer with a lame duck government drawn from a deeply divided party. Ironically, the speed of our exit from the EU looks likely to be decided in Brussels, Paris, and Berlin rather than in London"....


..."In the four days since the referendum around a 175,000 Londoners have signed a petition calling for London to become an independent city-state....


The UK is in serious trouble and the brilliant thing is that the DUP campaigned for it. 

More autonomy for London is very bad news for NI. More autonomy means less in transfers.

Not just NI. Wales and large parts of the Midlands and North of England could not carry their own weight if the City had its own tax raising and spending popwers.

Instead of demanding a border poll that will not happen at this time, SF should be offering their assistance to any more plans Arlene Foster has for the dismantling of the UK.

[Minder]

One of the big problems in the UK is the gap between professional politicians and the real world of the voters.  Miliband was the epitome of this. Pro politicians have a big Groupthink problem when there is no growth. The UK is in serious shit with food banks and zero hours contracts alongside a London housing bubble via QE.

This disconnect was seen as a big reason for a lot of Leave voters, I know many will be classed as racist and xenophobic but there where many interviewed who saw it as a chance for a big fcuk you to the political class.

Big problems obviously for Labour as most of the areas in the north and northeast of England that voted overwhelmingly to leave are seen as Labour heartlands.

Simply because the Labour vote didnt know which way the party was on the issue was it in or out.

Do you think Tony Blair (using as an example not an endorsement) would have lost this kind of referendum?

I don't agree, surely they would have voted for the status quo then, and Corbyn was in the Remain camp (for what's it was worth)

People where not voting for a political party (obviously)

That is not very clear. He has been asked how he voted and won't answer.

He tweeted on the morning of the Referendum voting that he voted Remain

[muppet]

One of the big problems in the UK is the gap between professional politicians and the real world of the voters.  Miliband was the epitome of this. Pro politicians have a big Groupthink problem when there is no growth. The UK is in serious shit with food banks and zero hours contracts alongside a London housing bubble via QE.

This disconnect was seen as a big reason for a lot of Leave voters, I know many will be classed as racist and xenophobic but there where many interviewed who saw it as a chance for a big fcuk you to the political class.

Big problems obviously for Labour as most of the areas in the north and northeast of England that voted overwhelmingly to leave are seen as Labour heartlands.

Simply because the Labour vote didnt know which way the party was on the issue was it in or out.

Do you think Tony Blair (using as an example not an endorsement) would have lost this kind of referendum?

I don't agree, surely they would have voted for the status quo then, and Corbyn was in the Remain camp (for what's it was worth)

People where not voting for a political party (obviously)

That is not very clear. He has been asked how he voted and won't answer.

He tweeted on the morning of the Referendum voting that he voted Remain

a) It is extremely unlikely that he writes much of his tweets.
b) http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chris-byrant-claims-jeremy-corbyn-may-have-voted-leave-a7105306.html

[screenexile]

Corbyn loses no confidence vote 172-40.  There'll now be a Labour leadership election (which he'll probably win!)

THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING!!!

[blewuporstuffed]

https://audioboom.com/boos/4751336-dup-s-gregory-campbell-grilled-on-vote-leave-s-50m-a-day-nhs-claim?utm_campaign=detailpage&utm_content=retweet&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook

I haven't much time for Nolan but at least he put it up to Campbell here the lying b@stard.
This interview just sums him and the DUP up in a nutshell.

[muppet]

Corbyn loses no confidence vote 172-40.  There'll now be a Labour leadership election (which he'll probably win!)

THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING!!!

And he is refusing to resign.

Imbecile.

[Walter Cronc]

Any chance David Milliband can come back and save the labour party??

[armaghniac]

There was a suggestion  that Milliband would be nominated  for Jo Cox's vacant seat.

[Canalman]

Jeez, now that would throw the cat amongst the pigeons if he came back. I think I read his job in NY is coming close to an end.