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Some really good points made recently on this thread (some awful shite too) and I think I still lean towards supporting Martin O'Neill.  However, the decision to bring McGeady on at half time was absolutely nonsensical, in what universe was Aiden McGeady ever going to turn that tie around?  Loyalty to a player is admirable but that borders on the worst managerial decision I've ever seen.

I agree. O'Neill has done reasonably well as manager considering the resources, but he really tainted his reputation with those half time subs. People will remember the last game. And all the good work winning in Cardiff, drawing in Denmark, the other night will be fresher in the memory and that sticks in the head more.

McGeady really was baffling. Throw him on 10 minutes to go maybe, but thats the limit of his usefulness.

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MW A football team like the current IFA one,using exclusively Unionist symbols and whose fans add the No Surrender lyric to the National Anthem they steal from the English team,would be obsolete in any independent North.Indeed that is the whole point of making the North independent, i.e. Removing the competing allegiances to two different sovereign territories,neither of whom wants nor understands us,and which causes such division and dysfunction,and will always make one community a winner and the other a loser,in their own psyches.

By the way I experienced the unrelenting sectarianism of Windsor Park (after a gap of 20 years) at the recent Linfield V Celtic tie.It was so bad a guy I knew asked the stewards to escort him and his grown up sons out of the stadium early in the second half,and took shameful abuse on the way out when the penny finally dropped with the hordes of the reason for his escort to the exit

Anthem? Flag? Would ireland fans be happy to dilute identity to the team to keep Norn Iron fans satisfied? Another Phil Coulter monstrosity "anthem" perhaps? Where would Norn Iron fans Union flegs fit in at the Avivi? Or maybe matches should be played in Windsor? There's be 3 sets of fans to keep apart too. Would there have to be a 50:50 team split with north/South players?

These sort of incidents were the sort of things that went on decades ago, that caused the split in the first place.

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Brady and Hendrick both had very poor campaigns after a good Euros. I expected a lot more from them. Surprised neither of them was removed at HT instead of Meyler/Arter.

Having said that, it was a bit mad removing two centre MFs at that stage. Especially when one of them was replaced by McGeady. Sweet Jaysus.

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Michael O'Neill to Scotland?  On the face if it, it makes sense.  More money, he lives in Scotland and maybe has taken NI as far as he can?
If he  goes, it can only really be for the money.  He will be unlikely to take Scotland any further than last 16 in a Euros or World Cup. Scotland fans also have an over-inflated belief in their team's abilities, so much more pressure too.

Scotland Havnt been to a major tournament in 20 years. For o Neill to get them to the euros, this would undoubtedly add to his reputation.
I don't think it would, particularly as it is now much easier to qualify for the Euros.  Having success at a club team would have a much bigger impact on his reputation. Going to Scotland would be a (lucrative) sideways step.

Is he related to Finn McCool?  :o

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General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: November 15, 2017, 11:46:12 PM »
Iíve only ever looked at the poppy as a charity, other people viewed the poppy as symbol of freedom, like you Owen Iíd say more so the second War rather than first but because of the serious loss of life, especially from here during the Somme itís been a bigger push on wearing it!

But for whatever reason here more so than anywhere else itís been viewed as divisive.. possibly because the UVF as in the regiment not the paramilitaries were given the attention and the latter were keen jump on board!

Ignoring it, if it annoys you would have been a better idea

I get the sense that the unionist mindset re: the somme, is these brave men gave their lives for our freedom etc. Honourable, brave etc. I look upon the Somme (and the wars in general) as one big giant cull. Absolute lunacy and total disregard for human life. There doesn't seem to be a sense of outrage at the total waste of life at these Remembrance services, and the lead up to it. To be honest, tens of thousands of lives lost, thousands of widows, children losing fathers etc, it's absolutely mental.

If there is another war in the morning, would people be outraged at a similar loss of lives or would they still think it was so brave? Was it Harry Patch who said, it wasn't worth losing one life over.

Pure lunacy but that was in hindsight, at the time they were led to believe different, bit like Brexit!

Yes, but there's few in Britain (and here) that didn't have a relative that was in the wars. So with almost 100 years of hindsight and still no unified outrage at the lunacy of it all. Instead, they buy their poppies and send their boys off to more and more wars.

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General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: November 15, 2017, 11:02:03 PM »
Iíve only ever looked at the poppy as a charity, other people viewed the poppy as symbol of freedom, like you Owen Iíd say more so the second War rather than first but because of the serious loss of life, especially from here during the Somme itís been a bigger push on wearing it!

But for whatever reason here more so than anywhere else itís been viewed as divisive.. possibly because the UVF as in the regiment not the paramilitaries were given the attention and the latter were keen jump on board!

Ignoring it, if it annoys you would have been a better idea

I get the sense that the unionist mindset re: the somme, is these brave men gave their lives for our freedom etc. Honourable, brave etc. I look upon the Somme (and the wars in general) as one big giant cull. Absolute lunacy and total disregard for human life. There doesn't seem to be a sense of outrage at the total waste of life at these Remembrance services, and the lead up to it. To be honest, tens of thousands of lives lost, thousands of widows, children losing fathers etc, it's absolutely mental.

If there is another war in the morning, would people be outraged at a similar loss of lives or would they still think it was so brave? Was it Harry Patch who said, it wasn't worth losing one life over.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: November 15, 2017, 06:12:10 PM »
In fairness we were awful against Austria and to win the match would have been robbery but its true that we were in a great position to top the group and then had 4 poor games getting only 3 points. For once can we qualify without going through the bloody playoffs

You can still win a game playing terrible.

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General discussion / Re: The same-sex marriage referendum debate
« on: November 15, 2017, 06:09:19 PM »
Don't think those breakdowns are out yet.

Still has to be approved by the government but looks like it will be done for Christmas.

Camp as by Christmas?

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The North getting put out due to a mistake by the referee is a sickener to be honest.  Switzerland didn't beat NI, the ref did.

I don't recall the ref scoring the penalty.

Seriously, NI didn't make it. Boo hoo, I won't be losing any sleep over it. Can't believe the sob stories over this.

Do you remember Henry's handball??!!

Yes I do. And I got over it 10 minutes later.

Anyway, there's reason to get annoyed at something when your own team is involved. Very few have any affiliation to Norn Iron on here, so why would you care?

I'm not talking about you in particular but the whole country/media lost its marbles at the time. Much worse than the North complained about the non handball!

Yes I remember. What people forget is that at 1-1, Ireland still needed to score again to qualify. The Henry incident changed very little. Had Ireland scored again, they'd have qualified anyway, on away goals. They couldn't get another, so they didn't qualify. Move on.


The Henry goal changed everything. It was scored in 104th minute of extra time and left Ireland with little time to score. Had the goal been correctly disallowed, the game would have went to penalties.

It differed from the NI penalty, in that Henry cheated. The NI penalty was a bad ref call - every team suffers bad calls. We lost out on qualification for WCs because of bad calls - the Frank Stapleton goal against Belgium for 1982, etc.

Ireland went 1-0 up after 33 minutes, so thats nearly 90 more minutes to get another, not 16 minutes.

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The North getting put out due to a mistake by the referee is a sickener to be honest.  Switzerland didn't beat NI, the ref did.

I don't recall the ref scoring the penalty.

Seriously, NI didn't make it. Boo hoo, I won't be losing any sleep over it. Can't believe the sob stories over this.

Do you remember Henry's handball??!!

Yes I do. And I got over it 10 minutes later.

Anyway, there's reason to get annoyed at something when your own team is involved. Very few have any affiliation to Norn Iron on here, so why would you care?

I'm not talking about you in particular but the whole country/media lost its marbles at the time. Much worse than the North complained about the non handball!

Yes I remember. What people forget is that at 1-1, Ireland still needed to score again to qualify. The Henry incident changed very little. Had Ireland scored again, they'd have qualified anyway, on away goals. They couldn't get another, so they didn't qualify. Move on.

Norn Iron couldn't score in 2 games. Even if the ref hadn't awarded that penalty, they would've needed to score to qualify. They didn't, so didn't qualify. Again, move on.

They didn't need to score, a draw would have led to penalties and they could have gone through without scoring.

Yes, but there was no guarantee they'd win the shoot out.

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The North getting put out due to a mistake by the referee is a sickener to be honest.  Switzerland didn't beat NI, the ref did.

I don't recall the ref scoring the penalty.

Seriously, NI didn't make it. Boo hoo, I won't be losing any sleep over it. Can't believe the sob stories over this.

Do you remember Henry's handball??!!

Yes I do. And I got over it 10 minutes later.

Anyway, there's reason to get annoyed at something when your own team is involved. Very few have any affiliation to Norn Iron on here, so why would you care?

I'm not talking about you in particular but the whole country/media lost its marbles at the time. Much worse than the North complained about the non handball!

Yes I remember. What people forget is that at 1-1, Ireland still needed to score again to qualify. The Henry incident changed very little. Had Ireland scored again, they'd have qualified anyway, on away goals. They couldn't get another, so they didn't qualify. Move on.

Norn Iron couldn't score in 2 games. Even if the ref hadn't awarded that penalty, they would've needed to score to qualify. They didn't, so didn't qualify. Again, move on.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: November 15, 2017, 12:10:05 AM »
Qualification hinged on late disallowed goal v Austria.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: November 14, 2017, 11:32:30 PM »
Here sure we are all rugby mad anyway so who gives a f**k until Scotland beat us in the 6 nations and then we will all be mad golfers until Rory shanks his way round the majors too busy thinking about money, ulster rugby, Carl frampton or whatever else that seems to distract him. After that im just hoping the hockey or cricket crowd get their shit together lol

Speak for yourself, Johnny.

Ha Benny you need to get on the band wagon with the rest of the country when one lot suffer glorious failure then move to the next its a never ending cycle. Now some in 2018 may be interested in some fifa world cup but not me its all about lord Clifton Hugh Lancelot de verdon wrottesley winning the Skelton for ireland at the winter olympics just need to get him out of retirement first

The skeleton sounds more exciting than rugby. Although, an afternoon watching raindrops run down a window sounds more exciting than rugby.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: November 14, 2017, 10:54:16 PM »
Here sure we are all rugby mad anyway so who gives a f**k until Scotland beat us in the 6 nations and then we will all be mad golfers until Rory shanks his way round the majors too busy thinking about money, ulster rugby, Carl frampton or whatever else that seems to distract him. After that im just hoping the hockey or cricket crowd get their shit together lol

Speak for yourself, Johnny.

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General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: November 14, 2017, 10:52:38 PM »
Leo, another lickspittle to the Brits.

Says one of the Queen's subjects

That's a new one  ::)

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