Feckin Derby day again.
Good day to stay down around Kildare/Newbridge.
Good draw for Kildare, hope we go down with our boots on.
Were the rules on venues not changed after the debacle last year?
Tyrone will have it all to do.
Quote from: trailer on June 24, 2019, 09:10:47 AM
Were the rules on venues not changed after the debacle last year?
Tyrone will have it all to do.
No chance they will move that out of Kildare. Tyrone don't have Mayo's support base. Under 5k at the Longford game.
Quote from: trailer on June 24, 2019, 09:10:47 AM
Were the rules on venues not changed after the debacle last year?
Tyrone will have it all to do.
You're right. The GAA will move matches if they see fit or if it's a safety issue and patrons are at risk. Basically they make it up as they go along. A bit like the RUCPSNI.
Don't be surprised if it's in Croke Park.
Quote from: BennyCake on June 24, 2019, 10:23:35 AM
Quote from: trailer on June 24, 2019, 09:10:47 AM
Were the rules on venues not changed after the debacle last year?
Tyrone will have it all to do.
You're right. The GAA will move matches if they see fit or if it's a safety issue and patrons are at risk. Basically they make it up as they go along. A bit like the RUCPSNI.
Don't be surprised if it's in Croke Park.
Double header with Armagh and Mayo in Croker!
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 24, 2019, 10:33:39 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 24, 2019, 10:23:35 AM
Quote from: trailer on June 24, 2019, 09:10:47 AM
Were the rules on venues not changed after the debacle last year?
Tyrone will have it all to do.
You're right. The GAA will move matches if they see fit or if it's a safety issue and patrons are at risk. Basically they make it up as they go along. A bit like the RUCPSNI.
Don't be surprised if it's in Croke Park.
Double header with Armagh and Mayo in Croker!
The Gaelic Grounds are surely available
Don't be surprised if this is moved to Sunday
I predict a draw match with Tyrone to come out on top in ET.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 24, 2019, 10:33:39 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 24, 2019, 10:23:35 AM
Quote from: trailer on June 24, 2019, 09:10:47 AM
Were the rules on venues not changed after the debacle last year?
Tyrone will have it all to do.
You're right. The GAA will move matches if they see fit or if it's a safety issue and patrons are at risk. Basically they make it up as they go along. A bit like the RUCPSNI.
Don't be surprised if it's in Croke Park.
Double header with Armagh and Mayo in Croker!
Noooooooo!!!!!!!
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 24, 2019, 09:22:17 AM
Quote from: trailer on June 24, 2019, 09:10:47 AM
Were the rules on venues not changed after the debacle last year?
Tyrone will have it all to do.
No chance they will move that out of Kildare. Tyrone don't have Mayo's support base. Under 5k at the Longford game.
So do you Kildare bucks have any preference where you play the game?
Quote from: LeoMc on June 24, 2019, 11:44:08 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 24, 2019, 09:22:17 AM
Quote from: trailer on June 24, 2019, 09:10:47 AM
Were the rules on venues not changed after the debacle last year?
Tyrone will have it all to do.
No chance they will move that out of Kildare. Tyrone don't have Mayo's support base. Under 5k at the Longford game.
So do you Kildare bucks have any preference where you play the game?
#Newbridgeornowhere
It that the final word, the game can only be moved out of Newbridge against Kildare's wishes if some person with a clip board can find a genuine health and safety issue with the stadium?
Banana skin of a game for us but one we need if we are to improve and have any impact on this years cship.
Kildare can blow hot and cold but if they are truely up for it like last year it could be a cracker.
This will probably be a harder game for either team than the next round.
Quote from: Main Street on June 24, 2019, 12:21:49 PM
It that the final word, the game can only be moved out of Newbridge against Kildare's wishes if some person with a clip board can find a genuine health and safety issue with the stadium?
Don't think that there's any mention of it having to be a
genuine issue
Quote from: Main Street on June 24, 2019, 12:21:49 PM
It that the final word, the game can only be moved out of Newbridge against Kildare's wishes if some person with a clip board can find a genuine health and safety issue with the stadium?
That's easily done. The GAA won't be left with egg on their face again. If they decide this match won't be in Newbridge, it won't be in Newbridge.
Sky have Sky Sports Arena (ch 408) blocked off on Saturday from 4pm to 10pm to cater for two live qualifiers.
Without doubt, these will be Mayo v Armagh and Kildare v Tyrone. Only thing to decide is the order.
There also has to be a proviso that the second one doesn't start till the first one is over (i.e. accounting for extra time), so wouldn't rule out a move to a double bill (although wouldn't bet on that outcome).
Surely a banana skin and/or egg on face are enough of a health and safety issue to move the game.
Quote from: Main Street on June 24, 2019, 12:21:49 PM
It that the final word, the game can only be moved out of Newbridge against Kildare's wishes if some person with a clip board can find a genuine health and safety issue with the stadium?
The venue was absolutely fine for both the Mayo & Galway games last year and they were probably 2 of the better football games in last years championship - the venue definitely contributed to that IMO - would be almost zero atmosphere in a double header in CP.
Quote from: Esmarelda on June 24, 2019, 12:40:39 PM
Surely a banana skin and/or egg on face are enough of a health and safety issue to move the game.
Lol don't give them any ideas!
Seeing as neither County has a bandwagon rolling this year it will be in Newbridge with an all ticket limit of around 8,000.
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on June 24, 2019, 12:41:32 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 24, 2019, 12:21:49 PM
It that the final word, the game can only be moved out of Newbridge against Kildare's wishes if some person with a clip board can find a genuine health and safety issue with the stadium?
The venue was absolutely fine for both the Mayo & Galway games last year and they were probably 2 of the better football games in last years championship - the venue definitely contributed to that IMO - would be almost zero atmosphere in a double header in CP.
I'd agree and the certainty of Croke Park dampening genuine championship atmosphere.
The rules of the competition state clearly
2) Venues: Home Venues shall be used in Rounds 1, 2 and 3 of the All-Ireland Qualifier Series,
with the first Team drawn having Home Advantage.
Is Croke Park even free I wonder? If it was, I'd say Mayo County Board and James Horan would agree to a Croke Park double bill in a heartbeat.
The Croke Park attendance would probably be a fair bit more than the combined attendance of two separate games and, therefore, Kildare county board could perhaps be persuaded to move. However, on the footballing side, Kildare would be better off in Newbridge and I'm sure Cian O'Neill has already been on to the county board to demand #newbridgeornowhere !
And atmosphere wise, it would be far better to not have the games in Croker.
I don't think Newbridge is fit to host this qualifier and would expect it to be moved to Croke Park.
8)
Quote from: Main Street on June 24, 2019, 12:52:25 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on June 24, 2019, 12:41:32 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 24, 2019, 12:21:49 PM
It that the final word, the game can only be moved out of Newbridge against Kildare's wishes if some person with a clip board can find a genuine health and safety issue with the stadium?
The venue was absolutely fine for both the Mayo & Galway games last year and they were probably 2 of the better football games in last years championship - the venue definitely contributed to that IMO - would be almost zero atmosphere in a double header in CP.
I'd agree and the certainty of Croke Park dampening genuine championship atmosphere.
The rules of the competition state clearly
2) Venues: Home Venues shall be used in Rounds 1, 2 and 3 of the All-Ireland Qualifier Series,
with the first Team drawn having Home Advantage.
Theres a line added this year about grounds meeting the requirements of the CCCC.
McGeeney's last game in charge was at pretty much same stage in Newbridge 6/7 years ago and easily catered for the crowd although it probably was all ticket.. Stevie O'Neill was inside the white line that day and caused all sorts of problems.
Quote from: Hound on June 24, 2019, 12:57:30 PM
Is Croke Park even free I wonder? If it was, I'd say Mayo County Board and James Horan would agree to a Croke Park double bill in a heartbeat.
The Croke Park attendance would probably be a fair bit more than the combined attendance of two separate games and, therefore, Kildare county board could perhaps be persuaded to move. However, on the footballing side, Kildare would be better off in Newbridge and I'm sure Cian O'Neill has already been on to the county board to demand #newbridgeornowhere !
And atmosphere wise, it would be far better to not have the games in Croker.
Absolutely, get the feeling Croke Park will have their revenge for last year though.
Quote from: Main Street on June 24, 2019, 12:21:49 PM
It that the final word, the game can only be moved out of Newbridge against Kildare's wishes if some person with a clip board can find a genuine health and safety issue with the stadium?
Fergal Logan has questioned the hygiene rating of the burger vans on his Twitter page. Legal challenge to it being played in Newbridge to follow.
None of them blue cubes in the men's pissers. Croke Park it is!
Kildare v Tyrone @5pm Sky
Mayo v Armagh @7pm Sky
at present......
Quote from: Rossfan on June 24, 2019, 01:06:21 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 24, 2019, 12:52:25 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on June 24, 2019, 12:41:32 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 24, 2019, 12:21:49 PM
It that the final word, the game can only be moved out of Newbridge against Kildare's wishes if some person with a clip board can find a genuine health and safety issue with the stadium?
The venue was absolutely fine for both the Mayo & Galway games last year and they were probably 2 of the better football games in last years championship - the venue definitely contributed to that IMO - would be almost zero atmosphere in a double header in CP.
I'd agree and the certainty of Croke Park dampening genuine championship atmosphere.
The rules of the competition state clearly
2) Venues: Home Venues shall be used in Rounds 1, 2 and 3 of the All-Ireland Qualifier Series,
with the first Team drawn having Home Advantage.
Theres a line added this year about grounds meeting the requirements of the CCCC.
I observe that there are rules clearly written in the GAA Official Guide but somewhere else deep in small print there's some committee who has the power to over rule the rule. That's why it is called a guidebook and not a rule book or law book.
This is what you are referring to,
"Home Venues for all Senior Inter County Championship games shall be subject to approval by the Central Competitions Control Committee and shall meet the criteria set down by the National Facilities/Health and Safety Committee. "
would rather go to croke park than newbridge.
Quote from: clarshack on June 24, 2019, 02:12:24 PM
would rather go to croke park than newbridge.
I know but the quality of the cutlery on offer would be substandard by comparison.
Newbridge confirmed
Quote from: trailer on June 24, 2019, 02:30:39 PM
Newbridge confirmed
Proper order IMO - They were drawn first, they deserve home advantage. Although I was more likely to go if it was Croke and a double header.
Lads while the result wasn't the best for us Mayo folk I had a great time in the sun in Newbridge last year and it was a great place to go for a match. The Kildare lads are sound as a pound and the pints were great before and after down the town. It was a great atmosphere at the game compared to an empty Croke Park with the seagulls flying about the place!! Really old school provincial grounds are perfect for qualifier games like this.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 24, 2019, 02:37:57 PM
Lads while the result wasn't the best for us Mayo folk I had a great time in the sun in Newbridge last year and it was a great place to go for a match. The Kildare lads are sound as a pound and the pints were great before and after down the town. It was a great atmosphere at the game compared to an empty Croke Park with the seagulls flying about the place!! Really old school provincial grounds are perfect for qualifier games like this.
Any good recommendations?
It's been a weird season so far in the championship for Tyrone as we seem to be playing in 2nd gear nearly all the time. We ended the league on a good run and did very well to beat Dublin at home.
The performances since have been very lacklustre and the easy explanation would be to say they are just coasting through with the plan to be ready for the hard games in the super 8s. A dangerous game some would say.
Donegal certainly have raised the bar and are looking like serious contenders but they could be in a very difficult group this year but I would say they fear nobody at the moment.
I would imagine we'll have to raise our game a good bit if we are to get past Kildare. A lot of our so called big game players have been quite poor so far. Mattie and Sludden especially. Harte wasn't bad on Sat night I thought and scored 9 points in total, 2 from play.
McShane is causing teams all sorts of problems and he's the 4th top scorer which not many of us would have been expecting at the start of the year. Donegal showed though that he can be nullified quite handy.
Adam Tyrell 29
Cormac Costello 27
Rian O'Neill 25
Cathal McShane 24
I watched Dublin v Kildare and I thought Kildare did OK up until half time but then like most teams got hammered in the second half. I would hope we would see a big performance this weekend as otherwise we could be on the scrapheap.
No 4 x 4 on the N7 for this. Fancy Kildare.
Quote from: bogball88 on June 24, 2019, 02:44:03 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 24, 2019, 02:37:57 PM
Lads while the result wasn't the best for us Mayo folk I had a great time in the sun in Newbridge last year and it was a great place to go for a match. The Kildare lads are sound as a pound and the pints were great before and after down the town. It was a great atmosphere at the game compared to an empty Croke Park with the seagulls flying about the place!! Really old school provincial grounds are perfect for qualifier games like this.
Any good recommendations?
I liked the Bru House and Johnson's ( The Liffey Arms). There is Coffeys which was grand and O'Rourkes which is across the road from the ground but the great thing about Newbridge is the ground is in the middle of the town so every pub is walking distance from the game!! I am sure Dinny and the boys will have some more recommendations.
McDonnells would be the home of Moorefield and the best beer garden in Newbridge but it will be packed. I also like Harrigans and Flanagan's on the back street. Newbridge is a drinking town in fairness.
Traffic will be bad so travel early.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 24, 2019, 02:55:16 PM
Quote from: bogball88 on June 24, 2019, 02:44:03 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 24, 2019, 02:37:57 PM
Lads while the result wasn't the best for us Mayo folk I had a great time in the sun in Newbridge last year and it was a great place to go for a match. The Kildare lads are sound as a pound and the pints were great before and after down the town. It was a great atmosphere at the game compared to an empty Croke Park with the seagulls flying about the place!! Really old school provincial grounds are perfect for qualifier games like this.
Any good recommendations?
I liked the Bru House and Johnson's ( The Liffey Arms). There is Coffeys which was grand and O'Rourkes which is across the road from the ground but the great thing about Newbridge is the ground is in the middle of the town so every pub is walking distance from the game!! I am sure Dinny and the boys will have some more recommendations.
Bru has closed and Swifts is up for sale again.
Coffeys, Johnsons or Neesons are all grand and within a stones throw of the ground.
As a Tyrone man living in Newbridge all the pubs are pretty good but Con Cummins would be my favourite. If anybody fancies singing then Con will hand the guitar out over the bar.
Quote from: clarshack on June 24, 2019, 02:12:24 PM
would rather go to croke park than newbridge.
I thinll the numbers at the antrim game put to bed any idea of the game being played in Croker . seemd to be about 400 there in total
Quote from: rosnarun on June 24, 2019, 03:46:42 PM
Quote from: clarshack on June 24, 2019, 02:12:24 PM
would rather go to croke park than newbridge.
I thinll the numbers at the antrim game put to bed any idea of the game being played in Croker . seemd to be about 400 there in total
The clickers had 1800 or so through the gate. Appeared to be more Kildare than Antrim fans as well
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 24, 2019, 03:43:29 PM
As a Tyrone man living in Newbridge all the pubs are pretty good but Con Cummins would be my favourite. If anybody fancies singing then Con will hand the guitar out over the bar.
Edward Harrigan's is a decent spot too, and just across from the Ground?
http://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/300964
"Unfortunately, the GAA weren't able to meet our requests"
Tyrone aren't winning this unless they find the next gear. Maybe it's there this year, maybe it's not. We'll definitely find out in Newbridge.
Too many key players not at it this year, so far.
Then, how good are Kildare? Bookies have Tyrone by 2.
Do all Kildare people love horses?
If we go into this one on anything less than full tilt, it will be curtains, though I'm confident this Tír Eoghain team won't on Saturday evening.
Have Cill Dara ever beaten us in Newbridge (fluky last minute C Cav goals notwithstanding), in any competition?
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 27, 2019, 08:45:04 PM
If we go into this one on anything less than full tilt, it will be curtains, though I'm confident this Tír Eoghain team won't on Saturday evening.
Have Cill Dara ever beaten us in Newbridge (fluky last minute C Cav goals notwithstanding), in any competition?
Hammered you in 1996 in Newbridge 1-9 to 1-7.
Cheers Dinny, a quarter-century ago so, almost ;)
The vhs tape is well worn.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2019, 11:27:04 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 27, 2019, 08:45:04 PM
If we go into this one on anything less than full tilt, it will be curtains, though I'm confident this Tír Eoghain team won't on Saturday evening.
Have Cill Dara ever beaten us in Newbridge (fluky last minute C Cav goals notwithstanding), in any competition?
Hammered you in 1996 in Newbridge 1-9 to 1-7.
Knuckles McCormack's finest hour.
Which train time are men getting from Dublin to Newbridge tomorrow?
Any expected team changes?
Has Mickey abandoned naming the team on Thursdays now.
I'd love to see a big game from Kennedy but he seems to be lacking confidence.
Sludden could get the chop again or how would he fair back at wing back?
Quote from: ONeill on June 27, 2019, 05:20:53 PM
Tyrone aren't winning this unless they find the next gear. Maybe it's there this year, maybe it's not. We'll definitely find out in Newbridge.
Too many key players not at it this year, so far.
Then, how good are Kildare? Bookies have Tyrone by 2.
Do all Kildare people love horses?
A good bit of Kildare is bog
https://youtu.be/F9IJSI2Ebzo
Paul Cribben - injured
Paddy Brophy - out of form/injured but in the squad
Jack Robinson - couldn't commit fully
Niall Kelly - just returned from traveling but in the squad
Dan Flynn - couldn't commit this year
Padraig Nash - in the squad
Those 6 won't be starting for Kildare tomorrow. If all were on board, in form and fully fit I would expect Kildare to go a lot closer tomorrow alas if my Aunt had balls. Weather forecast is good so Kildare will suck Tyrone into a shoot-out, even allowing for the absentees we have better attackers but defence wins games.....
Quote from: seafoid on June 28, 2019, 12:10:09 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 27, 2019, 05:20:53 PM
Tyrone aren't winning this unless they find the next gear. Maybe it's there this year, maybe it's not. We'll definitely find out in Newbridge.
Too many key players not at it this year, so far.
Then, how good are Kildare? Bookies have Tyrone by 2.
Do all Kildare people love horses?
A good bit of Kildare is bog
https://youtu.be/F9IJSI2Ebzo
I have a share of a racehorse but hate the bog...
Quote from: Fuzzman on June 28, 2019, 12:00:14 PM
Any expected team changes?
Has Mickey abandoned naming the team on Thursdays now.
I'd love to see a big game from Kennedy but he seems to be lacking confidence.
Sludden could get the chop again or how would he fair back at wing back?
It's only a talking point anyway. Man hasn't actually named his starting team on a Thursday in a lifetime. His way of keeping players on their toes.
Working wonders obviously.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2019, 12:32:58 PM
Paul Cribben - injured
Paddy Brophy - out of form/injured but in the squad
Jack Robinson - couldn't commit fully
Niall Kelly - just returned from traveling but in the squad
Dan Flynn - couldn't commit this year
Padraig Nash - in the squad
Those 6 won't be starting for Kildare tomorrow. If all were on board, in form and fully fit I would expect Kildare to go a lot closer tomorrow alas if my Aunt had balls. Weather forecast is good so Kildare will suck Tyrone into a shoot-out, even allowing for the absentees we have better attackers but defence wins games.....
Is your aunt on the trans spectrum, Dinny ?
Tyrone lose this and it could be a new Broome through the whole set-up.
Quote from: seafoid on June 28, 2019, 12:50:26 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2019, 12:32:58 PM
Paul Cribben - injured
Paddy Brophy - out of form/injured but in the squad
Jack Robinson - couldn't commit fully
Niall Kelly - just returned from traveling but in the squad
Dan Flynn - couldn't commit this year
Padraig Nash - in the squad
Those 6 won't be starting for Kildare tomorrow. If all were on board, in form and fully fit I would expect Kildare to go a lot closer tomorrow alas if my Aunt had balls. Weather forecast is good so Kildare will suck Tyrone into a shoot-out, even allowing for the absentees we have better attackers but defence wins games.....
Is your aunt on the trans spectrum, Dinny ?
She's going to take great Pride in tomorrow's victory...
I hope in my heart the Tyrone boys come good and return home with Kildare's scalp, tied to the bus' rear bumper.
All of a Sludden, Tyrone are the hottest of jollies. They can't see past a comfortable win.
The way Kildare defended especially in the drawn match v Longford was poor to say the least, unless there is a major change I cant see them beating tyrone as much as I would like to see them winning it.
Still no Tyrone team named..........?
Team be in the programme time enough.
https://twitter.com/Niall_Gartland/status/1144979397323251712?s=19 (https://twitter.com/Niall_Gartland/status/1144979397323251712?s=19)
Mcgeady is a serious man for giving away scorable frees
16 mins played Kildare 0-1 Tyrone 1-4. The home side look like a beaten docket already.
No hunger from Kildare. They have given up after 1 point missed and the other was cancelled out by the referee.
What was the black card for???
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 29, 2019, 05:27:38 PM
What was the black card for???
Looked like a punch to the stomach. Never got to see the replay though.
Referee doing everything he can to give Kildare an advantage but it's not coming off for him. Expect a red card for Tyrone and penalty for Kildare at some stage... ::)
Quote from: Solo_run on June 29, 2019, 05:28:10 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 29, 2019, 05:27:38 PM
What was the black card for???
Looked like a punch to the stomach. Never got to see the replay though.
I watched it several times and still can't see anything wrong. Certainly not a black card offense anyway.
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 29, 2019, 05:27:38 PM
What was the black card for???
Third man tackle, hit the Kildare man after he passed the ball off. Hasn't shown a replay of it but almost certain that'll be why it was given. Harsh enough given that it happens constantly in games without action being taken.
Kildare 1-4 Tyrone 1-7. Good well worked and much need goal for Kildare. 33 mins played.
Half time Kildare 1-6 Tyrone 1-9. Good last ten minutes of that half and hopefully the 2nd half is a good competitive contest.
Game should have been wrapped up by Tyrone but now it's all to play for.
What'd Cian O'Neill do to get sent off?
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 29, 2019, 05:29:32 PM
Referee doing everything he can to give Kildare an advantage but it's not coming off for him. Expect a red card for Tyrone and penalty for Kildare at some stage... ::)
You're talking through your arse, he favoured Tyrone the whole half. Some very soft frees given, Kildare have to work much harder for theirs.
Good sat nite. What's on offer for the gaa on rte tonight. Sweet fa. Instead am having to watch 11 blonde clones play Germany. I This is the problem of the gaa. No promotion of the games anymore on terrestrial TV. Too worried about taking the euro from the highest TV bidder. That and the cost in the biggest reason attendances and viewership away down
Quote from: lenny on June 29, 2019, 05:55:06 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 29, 2019, 05:29:32 PM
Referee doing everything he can to give Kildare an advantage but it's not coming off for him. Expect a red card for Tyrone and penalty for Kildare at some stage... ::)
You're talking through your arse, he favoured Tyrone the whole half. Some very soft frees given, Kildare have to work much harder for theirs.
You are both taking through your arse. No real issues with the ref for either side. What did Cassidy get the black card for? Morgan has now missed 3 frees can we please get another free take.
Tyrone are held to different disciplinary standards than anyone else. Any possible black card infringement is always called and maybe rightly so but the same is never called for opposing teams. Conway took 10 steps for the Kildare goal.
Quote from: lenny on June 29, 2019, 05:55:06 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 29, 2019, 05:29:32 PM
Referee doing everything he can to give Kildare an advantage but it's not coming off for him. Expect a red card for Tyrone and penalty for Kildare at some stage... ::)
You're talking through your arse, he favoured Tyrone the whole half. Some very soft frees given, Kildare have to work much harder for theirs.
And your talking through your fanny. The black card was a joke. If that tackle was a black then Kildare could have had 2 or 3 at this stage. Get the bitterness out of ye...
Oh dear...Kildare down to 14. Lenny thinks it was a dive.... ::)
50 mins played. Kildare 1-9 Tyrone 1-15. Kildare down to 14 men Mick O Grady a yellow then a black.
You can actually hear conversations in the crowd such is the lack of atmosphere at Gaelic football these days.
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 29, 2019, 06:13:28 PM
Quote from: lenny on June 29, 2019, 05:55:06 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 29, 2019, 05:29:32 PM
Referee doing everything he can to give Kildare an advantage but it's not coming off for him. Expect a red card for Tyrone and penalty for Kildare at some stage... ::)
You're talking through your arse, he favoured Tyrone the whole half. Some very soft frees given, Kildare have to work much harder for theirs.
And your talking through your fanny. The black card was a joke. If that tackle was a black then Kildare could have had 2 or 3 at this stage. Get the bitterness out of ye...
I agree the black card was a joke. Mc Shane held on to the number 3 arm and rolled him down on top of him. Pathetic from the ref.
Mickey Harte has reverted to type, he tried the expansive approach but realized he simply doesn't have the players to play such a game.
Kildare 1-13 Tyrone 1-17. 64 mins played.
A 2nd Tyrone goal thats game set and match.
Kildare getting a new one ripped by Tyrone just Derry and Armagh have now for the best part of 15 years. Nice win.
Poor game. 2nd half Tyrone did what Tyrone do and killed the game when ahead. Faking injuries after tackles and taking all momentum out of the game. Their no 10 is a fine player but seems to think physical contact is illegal. Every time he's touched he's throwing himself to the ground.
Tyrone 14 and Kildare's Kevin Feely best players on the pitch. Tyrone clearly have no one capable of kicking long range frees. Morgan brought up from goal missed them all but no one else willing to take them
Kildare 1-15 Tyrone 2-22. Tyrone closed out that game very impressively. Galway,Meath,Cavan and Cork will all be hoping to avoid them in the round 4 draw on Monday morning.
Quote from: dublin7 on June 29, 2019, 06:39:02 PM
Poor game. 2nd half Tyrone did what Tyrone do and killed the game when ahead. Faking injuries after tackles and taking all momentum out of the game. Their no 10 is a fine player but seems to think physical contact is illegal. Every time he's touched he's throwing himself to the ground.
Tyrone 14 and Kildare's Kevin Feely best players on the pitch. Tyrone clearly have no one capable of kicking long range frees. Morgan brought up from goal missed them all but no one else willing to take them
Of course. They took all the momentum out of the game by scoring 1-13 in the 2nd half! Open your eyes. Lol!! :o ;D
Kildare looked flat, deflated, uninterested from the first minute. That made Tyrone's life a lot easier and when they got into the swing of it Kildare were in trouble.
There were too many times in that game that Kildare did not want to put Tyrone under pressure when they attacked. All too happy to stand off and let them waltz through their defence.
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Quote from: dublin7 on June 29, 2019, 06:39:02 PM
Poor game. 2nd half Tyrone did what Tyrone do and killed the game when ahead. Faking injuries after tackles and taking all momentum out of the game. Their no 10 is a fine player but seems to think physical contact is illegal. Every time he's touched he's throwing himself to the ground.
Tyrone 14 and Kildare's Kevin Feely best players on the pitch. Tyrone clearly have no one capable of kicking long range frees. Morgan brought up from goal missed them all but no one else willing to take them
Of course. They took all the momentum out of the game by scoring 1-13 in the 2nd half! Open your eyes. Lol!! :o ;D
How much of that came after red card???? Tyrone are the most cynical team in the country.
Mickey Harte has gone back to what he knows and playing with 14 men behind the ball. Good enough today but will be found out in the super 8 (if they qualify) by the top sides
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Quote from: dublin7 on June 29, 2019, 06:39:02 PM
Poor game. 2nd half Tyrone did what Tyrone do and killed the game when ahead. Faking injuries after tackles and taking all momentum out of the game. Their no 10 is a fine player but seems to think physical contact is illegal. Every time he's touched he's throwing himself to the ground.
Tyrone 14 and Kildare's Kevin Feely best players on the pitch. Tyrone clearly have no one capable of kicking long range frees. Morgan brought up from goal missed them all but no one else willing to take them
Of course. They took all the momentum out of the game by scoring 1-13 in the 2nd half! Open your eyes. Lol!! :o ;D
How much of that came after red card???? Tyrone are the most cynical team in the country.
Mickey Harte has gone back to what he knows and playing with 14 men behind the ball. Good enough today but will be found out in the super 8 (if they qualify) by the top sides
Bit early for you boys to be squeaking that bum, with that cash-fuelled nonsense-engine against us lesser sporting mortals, eh?
Quote from: dublin7 on June 29, 2019, 06:39:02 PM
Poor game. 2nd half Tyrone did what Tyrone do and killed the game when ahead. Faking injuries after tackles and taking all momentum out of the game. Their no 10 is a fine player but seems to think physical contact is illegal. Every time he's touched he's throwing himself to the ground.
Tyrone 14 and Kildare's Kevin Feely best players on the pitch. Tyrone clearly have no one capable of kicking long range frees. Morgan brought up from goal missed them all but no one else willing to take them
Obviously a WUM. Silly comment.
More thoughts later but Niall Morgan taking frees is a waste of time. He's f**king useless.
Cassidy is a great player. Harte probably drop him again next day out.
Kildare are an embarrassment to their supporters. They've all but given up completely. I blame Ewan MacKenna.
Tyrone were evidently the vastly superior team from the first minutes onwards , that they allowed Kildare some respite in the minutes before ht going in only 2 points up, means I'd dock a brownie point, from 10/10 to 9/10.
Quote from: trailer on June 29, 2019, 07:16:19 PM
More thoughts later but Niall Morgan taking frees is a waste of time. He's f**king useless.
Cassidy is a great player. Harte probably drop him again next day out.
Kildare are an embarrassment to their supporters. They've all but given up completely. I blame Ewan MacKenna.
Tyrone weren't much better in last year's AIF in fairness
Gaelic football is a mess
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 29, 2019, 06:04:24 PM
Good sat nite. What's on offer for the gaa on rte tonight. Sweet fa. Instead am having to watch 11 blonde clones play Germany. I This is the problem of the gaa. No promotion of the games anymore on terrestrial TV. Too worried about taking the euro from the highest TV bidder. That and the cost in the biggest reason attendances and viewership away down
Not this again!
Most games are on terrestrial tv. People forget that qualifiers generally were not on TV before the Sky deal.
Quote from: sidelineball on June 29, 2019, 06:12:06 PM
Tyrone are held to different disciplinary standards than anyone else. Any possible black card infringement is always called and maybe rightly so but the same is never called for opposing teams. Conway took 10 steps for the Kildare goal.
I think it was Brolly who said you can take as many steps as you want so long as you look confident.
Kildare midfeilder had a good game but got away with some shocking over carrying.
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 29, 2019, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: sidelineball on June 29, 2019, 06:12:06 PM
Tyrone are held to different disciplinary standards than anyone else. Any possible black card infringement is always called and maybe rightly so but the same is never called for opposing teams. Conway took 10 steps for the Kildare goal.
I think it was Brolly who said you can take as many steps as you want so long as you look confident.
Mattie donnelly takes 7 or 8 steps every time he gets the ball and every time he's tackled he throws his head back to make it look like a high tackle. To say tyrone are reffed to higher standards is ridiculous.
Relax Lenny, ... and breathe
Quote from: lenny on June 29, 2019, 08:44:47 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 29, 2019, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: sidelineball on June 29, 2019, 06:12:06 PM
Tyrone are held to different disciplinary standards than anyone else. Any possible black card infringement is always called and maybe rightly so but the same is never called for opposing teams. Conway took 10 steps for the Kildare goal.
I think it was Brolly who said you can take as many steps as you want so long as you look confident.
Mattie donnelly takes 7 or 8 steps every time he gets the ball and every time he's tackled he throws his head back to make it look like a high tackle. To say tyrone are reffed to higher standards is ridiculous.
Jesus, you're not taking this well at all.
Did you throw the house on Kildare or something?
Quote from: lenny on June 29, 2019, 08:44:47 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 29, 2019, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: sidelineball on June 29, 2019, 06:12:06 PM
Tyrone are held to different disciplinary standards than anyone else. Any possible black card infringement is always called and maybe rightly so but the same is never called for opposing teams. Conway took 10 steps for the Kildare goal.
I think it was Brolly who said you can take as many steps as you want so long as you look confident.
Mattie donnelly takes 7 or 8 steps every time he gets the ball and every time he's tackled he throws his head back to make it look like a high tackle. To say tyrone are reffed to higher standards is ridiculous.
Aye throw them hateful Tyronies out and let Derry back in.
Quote from: lenny on June 29, 2019, 08:44:47 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 29, 2019, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: sidelineball on June 29, 2019, 06:12:06 PM
Tyrone are held to different disciplinary standards than anyone else. Any possible black card infringement is always called and maybe rightly so but the same is never called for opposing teams. Conway took 10 steps for the Kildare goal.
I think it was Brolly who said you can take as many steps as you want so long as you look confident.
Mattie donnelly takes 7 or 8 steps every time he gets the ball and every time he's tackled he throws his head back to make it look like a high tackle. To say tyrone are reffed to higher standards is ridiculous.
Lenny always shits himself at this time of the year when Derry are long gone and Tyrone are just beginning to warm up. It's a sign that the business end of the season is approaching. I for one enjoy his Tyrone based melt downs. It's generally a sign that we are going well.
Kildare should be looking Malachy O'Rourke.
Well done Tyrone.
Good start and comfortably kept us at arms length there after.
Biggest defeat and also most points conceded ever in the Championship at home.
Kildare are at a crossroads, will be lots of debate around the new manager as O'Neill will surely step down now.
Quote from: lenny on June 29, 2019, 08:44:47 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 29, 2019, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: sidelineball on June 29, 2019, 06:12:06 PM
Tyrone are held to different disciplinary standards than anyone else. Any possible black card infringement is always called and maybe rightly so but the same is never called for opposing teams. Conway took 10 steps for the Kildare goal.
I think it was Brolly who said you can take as many steps as you want so long as you look confident.
Mattie donnelly takes 7 or 8 steps every time he gets the ball and every time he's tackled he throws his head back to make it look like a high tackle. To say tyrone are reffed to higher standards is ridiculous.
He seems to think any physical contact is illegal. Embarassing at times. The sad thing is there is a quality forward there if he showed any bottle
We were outclassed and it's probably an accurate reflection of where we have been all year. Tyrone just an all round superior outfit.
Bit of a rebuilding job to be done now - try to persuade a few players to commit and blood a few more of the underage lads.
Enjoyable evening. Up until the second goal it was a very competitive game though Tyrone were always a bit on top. Despite what someone said earlier thought there was great noise in the stand and for all newbridges drawbacks it does create a good atmosphere.
Some very strong performances from Harte, Donnelly, meyler and mcshane.
Great to see the real Mattie back tonight. Good news 4 Trillick come September.
Quote from: dublin7 on June 29, 2019, 09:41:51 PM
Quote from: lenny on June 29, 2019, 08:44:47 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 29, 2019, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: sidelineball on June 29, 2019, 06:12:06 PM
Tyrone are held to different disciplinary standards than anyone else. Any possible black card infringement is always called and maybe rightly so but the same is never called for opposing teams. Conway took 10 steps for the Kildare goal.
I think it was Brolly who said you can take as many steps as you want so long as you look confident.
Mattie donnelly takes 7 or 8 steps every time he gets the ball and every time he's tackled he throws his head back to make it look like a high tackle. To say tyrone are reffed to higher standards is ridiculous.
He seems to think any physical contact is illegal. Embarassing at times. The sad thing is there is a quality forward there if he showed any bottle
Maybe if Tyrone gave him a free Hyundai and delivered all the
performance enhancing chemicals nutrition he needs to his door every week he could stay on his feet like the Dubs.... ;)
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 29, 2019, 10:56:41 PM
We were outclassed and it's probably an accurate reflection of where we have been all year. Tyrone just an all round superior outfit.
Bit of a rebuilding job to be done now - try to persuade a few players to commit and blood a few more of the underage lads.
Time to draft in Glen and Johnny?
As management I mean :)
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 29, 2019, 11:43:40 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on June 29, 2019, 09:41:51 PM
Quote from: lenny on June 29, 2019, 08:44:47 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 29, 2019, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: sidelineball on June 29, 2019, 06:12:06 PM
Tyrone are held to different disciplinary standards than anyone else. Any possible black card infringement is always called and maybe rightly so but the same is never called for opposing teams. Conway took 10 steps for the Kildare goal.
I think it was Brolly who said you can take as many steps as you want so long as you look confident.
Mattie donnelly takes 7 or 8 steps every time he gets the ball and every time he's tackled he throws his head back to make it look like a high tackle. To say tyrone are reffed to higher standards is ridiculous.
He seems to think any physical contact is illegal. Embarassing at times. The sad thing is there is a quality forward there if he showed any bottle
Maybe if Tyrone gave him a free Hyundai and delivered all the performance enhancing chemicals nutrition he needs to his door every week he could stay on his feet like the Dubs.... ;)
So we've gone from the money is the reason for dubs dominating to performance enhancing substances. I suppose it's something different.. I'd suggest Tyrone players have a long range free kick competition during the week to pick a free taker for their next game. Not for the first time Morgan was awful. Doesn't say much for the rest of the squad when management never made a change. That will cost Tyrone down the line
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Quote from: Over the Bar on June 29, 2019, 11:43:40 PM
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Quote from: lenny on June 29, 2019, 08:44:47 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 29, 2019, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: sidelineball on June 29, 2019, 06:12:06 PM
Tyrone are held to different disciplinary standards than anyone else. Any possible black card infringement is always called and maybe rightly so but the same is never called for opposing teams. Conway took 10 steps for the Kildare goal.
I think it was Brolly who said you can take as many steps as you want so long as you look confident.
Mattie donnelly takes 7 or 8 steps every time he gets the ball and every time he's tackled he throws his head back to make it look like a high tackle. To say tyrone are reffed to higher standards is ridiculous.
He seems to think any physical contact is illegal. Embarassing at times. The sad thing is there is a quality forward there if he showed any bottle
Maybe if Tyrone gave him a free Hyundai and delivered all the performance enhancing chemicals nutrition he needs to his door every week he could stay on his feet like the Dubs.... ;)
So we've gone from the money is the reason for dubs dominating to performance enhancing substances. I suppose it's something different.. I'd suggest Tyrone players have a long range free kick competition during the week to pick a free taker for their next game. Not for the first time Morgan was awful. Doesn't say much for the rest of the squad when management never made a change. That will cost Tyrone down the line
So how come simple numerical advantage didn't win a single AI since 1995 until both factors were heavily introduced to the Dublin set-up?
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Quote from: Over the Bar on June 29, 2019, 11:43:40 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on June 29, 2019, 09:41:51 PM
Quote from: lenny on June 29, 2019, 08:44:47 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 29, 2019, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: sidelineball on June 29, 2019, 06:12:06 PM
Tyrone are held to different disciplinary standards than anyone else. Any possible black card infringement is always called and maybe rightly so but the same is never called for opposing teams. Conway took 10 steps for the Kildare goal.
I think it was Brolly who said you can take as many steps as you want so long as you look confident.
Mattie donnelly takes 7 or 8 steps every time he gets the ball and every time he's tackled he throws his head back to make it look like a high tackle. To say tyrone are reffed to higher standards is ridiculous.
He seems to think any physical contact is illegal. Embarassing at times. The sad thing is there is a quality forward there if he showed any bottle
Maybe if Tyrone gave him a free Hyundai and delivered all the performance enhancing chemicals nutrition he needs to his door every week he could stay on his feet like the Dubs.... ;)
So we've gone from the money is the reason for dubs dominating to performance enhancing substances. I suppose it's something different.. I'd suggest Tyrone players have a long range free kick competition during the week to pick a free taker for their next game. Not for the first time Morgan was awful. Doesn't say much for the rest of the squad when management never made a change. That will cost Tyrone down the line
So how come simple numerical advantage didn't win a single AI since 1995 until both factors were heavily introduced to the Dublin set-up?
dublin7 condones cheating. He has yet to condemn Paul Mannion for his simulation last week.
Quote from: sidelineball on June 29, 2019, 06:12:06 PM
Tyrone are held to different disciplinary standards than anyone else. Any possible black card infringement is always called and maybe rightly so but the same is never called for opposing teams. Conway took 10 steps for the Kildare goal.
Maybe its sampling bias due to the collection of contributors to the board, but it never ceases to amaze me how much crying Tyrone ones do over referees. And without fail. Match after match, season after season! Whether they win or lose, the ref is always out to f**k them! ;D
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Quote from: lenny on June 29, 2019, 08:44:47 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 29, 2019, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: sidelineball on June 29, 2019, 06:12:06 PM
Tyrone are held to different disciplinary standards than anyone else. Any possible black card infringement is always called and maybe rightly so but the same is never called for opposing teams. Conway took 10 steps for the Kildare goal.
I think it was Brolly who said you can take as many steps as you want so long as you look confident.
Mattie donnelly takes 7 or 8 steps every time he gets the ball and every time he's tackled he throws his head back to make it look like a high tackle. To say tyrone are reffed to higher standards is ridiculous.
He seems to think any physical contact is illegal. Embarassing at times. The sad thing is there is a quality forward there if he showed any bottle
Maybe if Tyrone gave him a free Hyundai and delivered all the performance enhancing chemicals nutrition he needs to his door every week he could stay on his feet like the Dubs.... ;)
So we've gone from the money is the reason for dubs dominating to performance enhancing substances. I suppose it's something different.. I'd suggest Tyrone players have a long range free kick competition during the week to pick a free taker for their next game. Not for the first time Morgan was awful. Doesn't say much for the rest of the squad when management never made a change. That will cost Tyrone down the line
So how come simple numerical advantage didn't win a single AI since 1995 until both factors were heavily introduced to the Dublin set-up?
dublin7 condones cheating. He has yet to condemn Paul Mannion for his simulation last week.
Same auld s**t from you. He didn't dive last week. Maybe you have Alzheimers and dont remember what happened and everyone else pointing out he didn't dive.???
Must be worrying for Tyrone that even when they revert to a defensive system that better suits them, they still concede 1-15 to a 14-man Kildare.
Quote from: greatpoint on June 30, 2019, 12:44:05 PM
Must be worrying for Tyrone that even when they revert to a defensive system that better suits them, they still concede 1-15 to a 14-man Kildare.
Not a huge concern when you run the scoreboard up as high as Tyrone did. Kildares biggest championship defeat in newbridge.
Quote from: greatpoint on June 30, 2019, 12:44:05 PM
Must be worrying for Tyrone that even when they revert to a defensive system that better suits them, they still concede 1-15 to a 14-man Kildare.
Aye well, plenty to work on for the next round. At this stage I'd be happy enough going to the home ground of a decent team facing a potential banana skin and winning by 10 points whilst posting a larger score tally than the Dubs did against them in Croke Park a few weeks ago. I know you may expect perfection from Tyrone but in my view this was a job well done.
Quote from: greatpoint on June 30, 2019, 12:44:05 PM
Must be worrying for Tyrone that even when they revert to a defensive system that better suits them, they still concede 1-15 to a 14-man Kildare.
Did Kildare start the game with 14 men then? Any wonder they lost! ;D
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 30, 2019, 01:54:48 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on June 30, 2019, 12:44:05 PM
Must be worrying for Tyrone that even when they revert to a defensive system that better suits them, they still concede 1-15 to a 14-man Kildare.
Did Kildare start the game with 14 men then? Any wonder they lost! ;D
And then down to 13 when they got a man sent off in the second half!
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 30, 2019, 01:54:48 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on June 30, 2019, 12:44:05 PM
Must be worrying for Tyrone that even when they revert to a defensive system that better suits them, they still concede 1-15 to a 14-man Kildare.
Did Kildare start the game with 14 men then? Any wonder they lost! ;D
No but they played the last half hour with 14, and Tyrone only really pulled away with less than 10 minutes normal time remaining.
I'm not expecting Tyrone to be perfect like someone above suggested but when they're talked up so regularly by media and supporters alike they have to be held to some kind of standard.
Was fairly worried about this one - turned out as comfortable as the Longford game for long periods. You always felt that if Kildare pointed, we'd go up the field and keep that 4-6 point gap.
Big performances from big players. I thought Meyler's running was a massive plus. Direct and strong.
Good to see Sludden more involved too.
WTF did Kennedy do?
Quote from: ONeill on June 30, 2019, 02:40:38 PM
WTF did Kennedy do?
Third Man tackle, apparently. ::)
A mere 12 years after the crash, St Conleths Park will be released from purgatory with a dose of money
https://twitter.com/RTEsport/status/1215727040093212673
It is a pity that in the meantime the Leinster championship has died
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/coronavirus-pandemic-puts-gaa-s-big-projects-on-hold-1.4272997?mode=amp
Both Kildare and Meath understand that they're essentially at the mercy of what happens in the rest of 2020. Even if the roadmap back to some form of All-Ireland championship is followed without a hitch, funds are not going to be plentiful.
Both redevelopments have been earmarked for public funds with €4.875 million of Newbridge's overall cost of €10 million announced last January as was €6.2 million for Navan and its phased development scheme, the first part of which is the construction of a new main stand, estimated at just under €12 million, and which ultimately will be an all-seater 21,000-capacity stadium.
Kildare would have hoped for GAA assistance with most of the balance whereas Meath, who had looked for €8 million in public money (from the Large Scale Sport Infrastructure Fund) have some leeway to make up and had been hoping that Croke Park could kick in up to a fifth of the cost, about €2.3 million.
Sources in both counties accept that the future is uncertain, as resources for capital projects will be scarce and however well the GAA manages to do out of its rescheduled season, 2020 will be about damage limitation.
In Waterford, the pessimistic view is that the Walsh Park project is "running third, behind Navan and Newbridge and by and large, parked" and that central assistance won't be available until 2021 or 2022.
Deferral could push costs up from €7 million to €9 million, which even in normal circumstances would be unwelcome for a strapped county board even allowing that the design could be modified to defray costs.
Although some comfort is being taken from the GAA's history of honouring such commitments, these are extraordinary times and there are are no easy reassurances for the time being