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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 11, 2017, 03:45:15 PM »
I think Henderson is a decent honest footballer, but Keita arrives and his number is up. Not sure Can is any different, stronger  but slower than JH. Henderson didn't have anything to offer to break down the massed defence. Salahs goal was excellent and created from nothing, he never actually looks at goal between getting the ball and shooting. That individual ability to break a defence is required at this level. Mane had a stinker.
Lovren is too prone to mistakes, as is mignolet, both surely on borrowed time. Klavan is a stop gap who did well yesterday. Robertson did well given lack of game time, Joe G is flying.

I'd rather Schmeichal than Van Dyke in January window. Also not clear to me what Liverpool would want with another winger.
Henderson's shot at the end is typical of his shortcomings. Poor composure and poor technique.

Henderson's biggest failing is he is not Stevie G. I don't mind him at all. You need creativity around him, but he's serviceable.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: December 11, 2017, 02:24:33 PM »
I thought Seanie was going a bit OTT on Mourinho, at the end of the day they are in second place, in the last 16 of Europe, and won two trophies last year including a European trophy. I'd love that at Liverpool, put it like that.

However yesterday I thought United were afraid of City. I've not seen that in a long time, since Moyes certainly. And never with Ferguson. They looked way more dangerous when they went behind both times, which to me indicates that the game plan was needlessly conservative.

And then to read the nonsense afterwards in the City dressing room. That's mental stuff.


Ye have the opposite problem at Liverpool - a manager who doesn't seem to interested in setting up or organising a defence. But by God does he let his attackers go out and express themselves.

Mourinho was a bad fit for United. Never should have been let in the gate. I just hope when he decides to walk out that the bungling board can find a far more suitable replacement with the character and bravery to manage this club. He was put in as a quick fix and rarely do quick fixes work. This will not work.

Exactly. If you combined Klopp and Mourinho, you'd have a hell of a manager!

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: December 11, 2017, 02:08:52 PM »
I thought Seanie was going a bit OTT on Mourinho, at the end of the day they are in second place, in the last 16 of Europe, and won two trophies last year including a European trophy. I'd love that at Liverpool, put it like that.

However yesterday I thought United were afraid of City. I've not seen that in a long time, since Moyes certainly. And never with Ferguson. They looked way more dangerous when they went behind both times, which to me indicates that the game plan was needlessly conservative.

And then to read the nonsense afterwards in the City dressing room. That's mental stuff.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 11, 2017, 01:36:35 PM »
It's his positional sense. He's like a Jack Russell chasing 3 tennis balls at the same time.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 11, 2017, 11:24:35 AM »
"I would expect Klopp to be telling people to keep their f**king hands off opposition backs in the area now."
Correct - should be obvious to any defender, at any level.
If it was the other way round I'd be giving off saying it's soft but I'd also be more annoyed about the stupidity of the defender in that situation, 100%.

That's true. Sometimes I can't believe how brainless some lads are. Lucas was a prime example, but Moreno and Lovren are as bad. Even Henderson against Brighton, like WTF are you thinking? That's not talent, or effort, or systems, that's just pure unadulterated stupidity.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 11, 2017, 11:19:15 AM »
The referee and linesman were about 40-50 metres away. They see hands being raised,  placed on a blue shirt and the Everton player hitting the ground. They weren't close enough to even make a guess as to the strength of the push. What are they supposed to do? If I was the ref I'd ask myself "why is that defender putting his hands on the Everton player?" and I'd feel entitled to give the penalty.

Well I have a problem with that. You can't give what you guess. You have to know. They must have been sure in their own minds that it was a push, otherwise you can't give it.

He obviously was sure. "Sure" and "wrong" are not mutually exclusive.  :P

It looked legit to me from behind, the angle the ref had. He only gets one look, in real time.

Slowed down and from other angles, the player looked like he was waiting for the slightest of contact and went down. Lovren, unfortunately, stupidly indulged him.

Herrera tried to buy a penalty against City and got rightfully booked. Chelsea scored a goal last week off a much more blatant push by Morata, but it wasn't spotted. Short of video reviewing all of these incidents, there's nothing anyone can do.

I would expect Klopp to be telling people to keep their f**king hands off opposition backs in the area now. That's two weeks in a row stupid penalties were given away.


Absolutely. I'm not saying he can't give a wrong decision, but he has to be sure at the time it's right. That's just a mistake. What a ref can't do is guess what he saw. If he was sure it was a push, then it's a peno all day long. I was saying I had a problem with the ref guessing, which is what Esmerelda said. A guess, knowing it's a guess, is not acceptable.

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General discussion / Re: Premier League 2017/18
« on: December 11, 2017, 11:16:54 AM »
Liverpool Juve.....

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 11, 2017, 11:16:29 AM »
That's grand. You're entitled to your opinion. Like you I think Lovren was daft to even make contact. But I don't think it was a push. I think Henderson against Brighton was a push. Henderson had is hand on the Brighton lads back and extended his arm. I don't think Lovren ever extended his arm when he was in contact with the Everton lad, so I can't see how it was a push. It certainly wasn't a push as indicated by the referee. If Lovren did what the ref said, then it would have been a stone wall penalty.

But these things happen. Liverpool should have been further ahead, and in soccer you are always one mistake away from a goal being conceded. If it was 3-0 at the time, it wouldn't have mattered.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 11, 2017, 11:08:39 AM »
Well to push someone, you have to extend your arms. Try and push something without extending your arms? If he saw that, then he gives a penalty. If he didn't then he's just guessing.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 11, 2017, 11:02:00 AM »
The referee and linesman were about 40-50 metres away. They see hands being raised,  placed on a blue shirt and the Everton player hitting the ground. They weren't close enough to even make a guess as to the strength of the push. What are they supposed to do? If I was the ref I'd ask myself "why is that defender putting his hands on the Everton player?" and I'd feel entitled to give the penalty.

Well I have a problem with that. You can't give what you guess. You have to know. They must have been sure in their own minds that it was a push, otherwise you can't give it.

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General discussion / Re: Ireland's Greatest Sporting Moment RTE 2
« on: December 10, 2017, 04:21:51 PM »
Is that the Bull Hayes you're talking about? I think he was 18 or so before he played Rugby. Mind you he was tackling cattle for a while before that.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 10, 2017, 04:19:34 PM »
I think Mané is starting to press a bit. I noticed that in a couple of other games. I think he's putting himself under pressure to try and keep pace goals wise with Salah and Firmino.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: December 10, 2017, 12:25:06 PM »
You just know Big Sam will come and win today. He's certainty given them a bit of a boost.

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GAA Discussion / Re: the future of the Intercounty game
« on: December 09, 2017, 01:15:54 AM »
Sure in the early noughties, we (Offaly) had both a senior and junior team, and our junior team used to hammer the seniors. Only in Offaly.
The junior team hardly trained collectively, and if I recall correctly, won a Leinster in ‘01.
Oh well.

I think it was 98. They lost the All Ireland final to Tipp I think?

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General discussion / Re: The 70s
« on: December 08, 2017, 10:47:19 AM »
I used to be sent over the road to the newsagent across from our National School, for an Old Holburn tobacco pouch. Our teacher used to roll his own. He'd give me a penny change and tell me not to spend it all in the one shop.

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