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So Keating rules out a return which is disappointing. I never thought he had it upstairs enough to be carry our forward line and push us on to another level but after he left we saw that we didn't really have another viable option for a full forward. As for Dunne leaving well you'd have to say he didn't look like a man enjoying his football and only seemed to be on his game when he had a point to prove after being benched and brought on as a sub.

According to Hoganstand the new lads have been brought in are Enda Henry, Barry Doyle, Conor Finnegan, Thomas Moore, Joe Dillon, Padraic Faulkner, Barry Tully. Hopefully some of them can offer us something new. Doyle certainly knows where the posts are but it's a huge step up. Funny to see Finnegan in there after showing such promise as a minor and then never breaking into the 21s team. Where does Thomas Moore play?

Why can Keating only let the manager know last Tuesday that he can't play due to work commitments? Sound like another boy with a big ego. He had potential but he was a long long way from a top player due mostly to his decision making. Good luck to the new lads. I think Faulkner and Dillon could be big players one day.

People who start saying that 2016 is a "write off" due to a player being called up that they dislike would want to take a good long look at themselves. Can you really call yourself a true supporter if your planning on  boycotting the team due to disliking one player?

Myles your critical of Johnston playing for another county. Yet your planning on walking away from supporting the team in protest. Seems a bit hypercritical of you Myles!

The management will call up an array of different players leading up to the McKenna Cup. Some will be kept on, others won't. Regardless of his age or what went on in the past, Johnston has talent. He might be a little older and lost some of his pace but he's still a credible option in the League at least. As I said in a previous post, we're not blessed with many good forwards or free takers. All avenues have to be explored by the management and that includes Johnston.

I'm proud to be a Cavan supporter. I'm not going to distant myself from games just because I've an issue with one player out of a panel of 30. People on this forum with negative and begrudging attitudes are better off staying at home!!

Its a bit of a red herring trying to turn this into a "dislike" of one player. In my opinion Johnston betrayed his team mates, the supporters, Cavan GAA and the wider GAA ethos. He has shown no remorse for it. As for my bona fides as a supporter, I know what games and efforts I have made to go to matches (every game is an away game for me, Breffni is 2.5 hrs from where I live), I dont need to justify them anymore than that. I will not be a hypocrite and stand in the terrace as an unrepentant Sean Johnston takes the field as in my opinion that would be to show support to  the decision.

I have no wish to get into a slagging match with you Ollie or anyone else (we all did that before and it was not a healthy undertaking), positions on this are well known. I see this as a reckless decision by Hyland and has the potential to cause untold trouble in the camp and in Cavan GAA. I can't and won't support it. That's my position on it right or wrong.

[Hyland should run the rule over anyone with the potential to help Cavan score]

Any buckeen willing to put the effort to play county football deserves respect. Cavan's forwards have been in a slumber for a years - it's hard to make a case Seanie doesn't have the skills to be a part of the current Cavan panel. Good on Hyland for being the bigger man.

When was the last time you saw him play? He hasnt played fir Cavan since 2011 and barely kicked a ball for his club since either.

I've seen the Cavan forwards play yearly in the intervening years. Ye couldn't beat us with the deck stacked in your favour this year (we were hardly going great guns - losses to Sligo and Fermanagh sandwiched that match) because ye had no one who could consistently take their scores, and you played your second best midfielder as a FF to no effects such was your desperation to manufacture a cutting edge.

Hyland should run the rule over anyone with the potential to help Cavan score. The rest should be noise for him.

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Believe it or not, Syf I totally agree with you!

I find that position very narrow-minded.

So his ability to score is all that matters? His work-rate, his influence over the team, his attitude? All irrelevant. What I don't understand is why Hyland decided to bring him back now rather than any of the previous few years.

Indeed, what is the motivation for such a reckless decision. Desperation can be the only answer.

An apology!

I heard Johnston and the county board are organising a letter of apology and a box Roses for you personally Myles!

In all seriousness, He was let go by the previous manager and tried to resurrect his inter-county career with Kildare but to no great success. Nobody in Cavan had any problem with Rory Gallagher or Gareth Smith trying similar moves. I know the latter has Cavan parents but he was born a Dub, living and working in Dublin and playing club football there is whole life.

Regardless of U21 titles we have, we certainly have not produced many scoring forwards in the past few years. Dunne, Jack Brady, Bud Fitz etc are not going to win us many games. We also don't have many free takers either. Relying on out make-shift Goalkeeper to score to late frees for us against Monaghan was just very naïve by the management.

I don't like the idea of drafting in 31 year olds either. It shouldn't hamper the prospects of younger lads like Hayes, David Brady or Ciaran Brady who will probably be drafted out of the panel for the second half of the league if the u21s are doing well.

Johnston could be the difference between a winning by a point instead of loosing by the same margin just like our last two encounters with Monaghan in the Championship.   

Yes an apology, an admission that they made a mistake or some remorse for what he did. Maybe I am old fashioned but when a player is banished from the panel in this manner I would expect that he would have to put somethings right before being asked back in. Otherwise what is the message to all the other players in  the county - do whatever you like, it doesn't matter?? Like Westside I would also have given Hyland a lot of support over the years, especially on his stance on Johnston. I think he has done a lot of good but I am afraid he has taken an incredible backwards step here. I really cannot see the angle, the positive, the logic in this decision. 2016 is a write off and I won't be travelling to see the senior team playing. In fact, if anyone wants a McKenna cup ticket please PM me.

People make mistakes, Johnston made a massive mistake. However, to move on from a mistake there must be an acknowledgement of it. So for me Johnston owes the supporters an apology and if he is not willing to do this then I for one will be saving a lot of Diesel this year as I won't be going to any games and I dont say that lightly as I have been going to games for a long time.

We are Cavan had a tweet saying Jelly is back on the panel it then got deleted.

Being reported on the radio this morning, apparently a report in the Sun newspaper quotes Terry Hyland as confirming this as true. A dark day for Cavan football in my opinion if true and perhaps even more worrying than his return itself, its surely a sign of overall desperation by Hyland.

Thanks.

So to play with your club next year you must be 17 years old prior to the 1st Jan 2016.

Apologies for starting a new thread, I think there was another one somewhere else but I couldn't find it. I was wondering does anyone know if the rule regarding minor players playing senior with their club has been finalised yet. I understood this was a rule coming from Croke park but I have seen nothing official yet. What I have heard are varying different opinions on what the rule is.

So does anyone have the new rule in writing?

[poor working person struggling financially]

What a crass and stupid comment,saying that she would earn my respect if she committed suicide😠.

I have every respect and pity for some poor working person struggling financially,for example,through no fault of their own or with personal demons,but not this publicity seeking excuse for a human being trying to drum up (no pun intended) publicity for an imminent tour or greatest hits (all one of them) release.

Even her own brother disowns her ffs.Anyone who disses their own family is unworthy of respect or sympathy

Depression is the same as cancer Tony, it doesn't care about your wealth, colour or creed. I wonder would Jesus have treated Sinead O Connor like you do? You are a hypocrite to your own supposed beliefs. Why don't you just admit you hate O Connor for having the cheek to question the catholic church. You are a bitter twisted little man - nothing else.

Perhaps if Sinead O Connor did commit suicide she'd get some respect from Fearon?? What a strange branch of Christianity he belongs to or maybe since gross hypocrisy is the bedrock of most churches we should congratulate Fearon on his consistency.

Anyway, I think it is sad to see someone as talented as O Connor implode in such a public way and I hope she can get the help she needs.

Is there a Senior Managment team in place yet?

Its dragging on a bit at this stage. Haven't even heard a rumour or two.

[social & welfare issues not to mention the other sports on offer to their playing base]

Personally I've no problem with amalgamations - but don't agree they should be allowed to enter Ulster competitions.

Why not?
What if an amalgamated team has combined 200 members and plays a standalone team with 800 members. I don't get this attitude.

Well going by your theory should we grade clubs by the number of members they have. So what happens in a situation where the single club has 300 members and the amalgamated club has 400 members??

You assume every urban/semi-urban club is a hive of activity centred around the GAA club. Urban clubs have plenty of problems themselves to contend with, namely around social & welfare issues not to mention the other sports on offer to their playing base.

Thank god no rural teams have to contend with these problems.

I brought up the club size originally to illustrate a point. Hardstation would have you believe that clubs in Cavan are joining together with the sole purpose of winning and not to field teams. My point was you can have unfair populations within the GAA already with single clubs. For example Cavan Gaels in my own county would be multiple sizes bigger than the likes of Southern Gaels. So when that is considered, why would you go out and discriminate against a small rural amalgamation. I know Hardstation hasnt a clue what he is talking about but I was hoping I could help some people to understand this point of view.

Cavan men complaining yet again that others question amalgamations

No one has questioned the amalgamation, just snide remarks. If anyone wants to question it work away and we can debate it out. The fact is that the clubs in Southern Gaels are too small to put U16 & minor teams together and its a fine achievement for them to be winning county titles. It is also a fact that outside Leitrim, Cavan has the highest proportion of clubs per population in the country which is why clubs are in this position and is indeed a problem in general in Cavan football.

To flesh this out I am asking what the Rossa club local population is and I'll try and find out what Southern Gaels is. If you prefer could you let us know how many members does the Rossa club have? Of course if data gets in the way of a mindless moan then fire away and I'll leave ye to it.

Well I am going to create shock waves around the internet and say I agree with Fearon. The Church of England's money is as good as anyones and they should be allowed to advertise. The fecking brit army have adds on all the time and their "job" is to shoot and bomb people. Now that said I would probably take the opportunity to go for a piss when it comes on but I see no justification for refusing to show it.

I'm just curious, how many people live in the catchment area of O Donovan Rossa? I know it would be too hard a question for hardstation so does anyone else have a rough idea? I'm sure you all know I am just trying to make a point at a certain fools belittling of a team as they are an amalgamation and I am certainly not belittling O Donovan Rossa.