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Title: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 23, 2007, 11:16:58 PM
Ok. At last. I've started it. I am sure before long the Mancs, Goons and the Scousers would've told me to p**s off and stop gate crashing their thread.

So why tonight? Why not.

A great night for Chelsea as they book their place in the 2007 CC Final on the last Sunday of February. Only Wycombe I hear you ask. Maybe so, but for a fan of many, many lows, I am still enjoying the too few highs. This will only be the 8th Cup final of my lifetime (4 FA Cups, 1 ECWC, 3 LCups), what is actually more than I thought before I started to type.

A decent performance, against a spirited Wycombe side who attempted to play football, and avoided playing the all-too-obvious 6 at the back. Yer man Doherty from this very island, was there best player, bar the mistake for the first goal.

MOTM was Shevchenko. At last he got the goals his work rate deserves. As Jose calls it, goals are goals, but it doesn't matter if it is Barcelona or Wycombe the hard work will always be hard work. In addition Jon-Obi Mikel continues t develop with every game. Again tonight he kept it really simple, opened the game, and put in a challenge when required. With Cech showing no ill effects from his injury, and the hopeful return of JT...things are still boiling nicely. The team looked unified tonight, and even Jose cracked a smile.

Roll on Cardiff.....

http://www.dailymotion.com/FootballHeaven/video/x11ro8_chelsea-4-0-wycombe (http://www.dailymotion.com/FootballHeaven/video/x11ro8_chelsea-4-0-wycombe) Lamps 4-0

http://www.dailymotion.com/FootballHeaven/video/x11rhj_chelsea-3-0-wycombe (http://www.dailymotion.com/FootballHeaven/video/x11rhj_chelsea-3-0-wycombe) Lamps 3-0

http://www.dailymotion.com/FootballHeaven/video/x11r0p_chelsea-2-0-wycombe (http://www.dailymotion.com/FootballHeaven/video/x11r0p_chelsea-2-0-wycombe) Sheva 2-0

http://www.dailymotion.com/FootballHeaven/video/x11rw2_chelsea-vs-wycombe-goals (http://www.dailymotion.com/FootballHeaven/video/x11rw2_chelsea-vs-wycombe-goals) Sheva 1-0!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 01, 2007, 08:58:32 AM
A fairly underpopulated thread, but it has to be done. Was out of the country for a few days there so never got a chance to post recently.

Decent win last night for The Blues. Another step towards the consistency of the last 2 seasons. Away to Charlton on Saturday, and hopefully a win, which will put a bit of P on United who have a trickyish visit to the Lane on Sunday.

In addition I hope you all gasped in amazement at Scott Sinclair's goal on Saturday. Sinclair is a 17yo striker from the Chelsea reserves. He, along with Sahar, Woods, Jack Cork amongst others have been tipped for the top. Will they get the chance that's another question.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sb1H6p7yn30
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2007, 09:04:10 AM
For what it's worth I think Chelsea will over-haul Man U. Can't see Jose giving youth a chance, he's under too much pressure..
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: An Fear Rua on February 01, 2007, 10:38:08 AM
This thread looks like a chelsea crowd mid 90s ....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Over the Bar on February 01, 2007, 10:40:41 AM
QuoteThis thread looks like a chelsea crowd mid 90s ....

psst... wanna join Combat18??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on February 01, 2007, 11:12:21 AM
Great`we're getting Terry back and Boulahrouz and what happens? Ashley Cole suspected ligaments

Heres a good quiz question,

What match this year have Chelsea had their strongest starting 11 playing?

Same question for Man U, Arsenal and Pool
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Spiritof98 on February 01, 2007, 11:15:53 AM
Surely a strongest 11 is defined only by Opinion?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on February 01, 2007, 11:46:24 AM
Well, yes opinion based it would be but the best starting 11 would usually start the harder matches and rest in the weaker matches.

Starting 11 or Chelsea.

Cech                                                                Cech
Boulahrouz Terry Carvalho Cole                            Boulahrouz Terry Carvalho
Cole Makelele Lampard Robben                            Cole Makelele Essien Lampard Robben
Drogba Shevchenko.                                         Drogba Shevchenko.

But by this team Joe Cole has been hindered by injuries
Cech is only returning after a spell out
Boulahrouz hasnt returned since injury
Terry due back shortly after injury spell
A Cole is now out injured
Robben has had a share of injuries
Sheva is still making adjustments but wait. Patience is a virtue.


In generalisation injuries have hit Chelsea quite badly this year in relation to Man U, if the tables where turned would Man U have the strength to maintain a top four spot, i think not.

Well at least our injuries havent been like Newcastles, touch wood.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Spiritof98 on February 01, 2007, 11:54:19 AM
So Essien wouldn't figure, come on! he probably the best player (ex drogba),

It was only September when Mourinho was claiming that Chelsea should have team in the Chamionship and that their reserves would win the league, now after a few injuries, he starts to cry about having to use youth team players.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 02, 2007, 09:42:47 PM
QuoteCan't see Jose giving youth a chance, he's under too much pressure..

Agreed probably. Chelsea have some fine (By all reports) prospects coming through, but I dunno if Jose will use them at any stage. The lad he has most faith in is 16 year old Michael Woods whom he is always asking to join in with senior training. I've suspected that this is the source of the alledged fall out. Chelsea have always maintained that there policy will be to be self sufficent in a few years time. They have aggressively gone after the finest 14-16 yo players in the world over the last 18 months, and I think they are looking for a plan to integrate them. I don't think TSO is totally bought in...that's my theory anyhow.

QuoteThis thread looks like a chelsea crowd mid 90s ....
But nothing like our trophy cabinet over the last few years :-)

And my Chelsea XI if I could...


Cech
Geremi although I think we have 3/4 ok right backs, but lack one great one.
Terry
Carvalho
Bridge as I prefer him to Cole
Maka
Essien
Lampard
Joe Cole
Drogba
Shevchenko however I think Andriy would benefit from a flat midfield 4 that must contain two wide men (Cole and Robben), and two midfielders. Lampard and Essien must play, which leaves no space for Makalele.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 05, 2007, 06:47:10 PM
Injury curse strikes again. No sooner have Chelsea got JT back, and Ashley Cole is injured for what looks like 2-3 months. Still I wasn't too worried, as Bridge is more than capable cover...but now he is out injured too for up to a month!

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 21, 2007, 01:08:24 PM
Chelsea's critics guilty of switching from the historical to the hysterical
Martin Samuel


Whenever Liverpool play Chelsea, the fans sing a song about history. Chelsea have none, apparently, whereas Liverpool, with five European Cups and 18 league titles, have an abundance.

This is not strictly true, of course. What Liverpool's 23 trophies represent is achievement; history is just stuff that has happened, good, bad or indifferent. Every football club has history, even Milton Keynes Dons, and certainly one such as Chelsea that dates back more than a century.

Chelsea won a European trophy two years earlier than Liverpool and beat them to the League Cup by 16 years. They have produced an England captain, John Terry, while postwar England captains from Anfield have either been bought in, such as Emlyn Hughes and Kevin Keegan, or in the case of home-grown internationals such as Phil Thompson and Steven Gerrard, have received the accolade only temporarily as a result of injury. Also, Chelsea fought a battle for their very existence when developers wanted to turn their Stamford Bridge home into luxury flats.

There is history in London SW6 all right; what Chelsea lack in comparison with Liverpool is sustained success. Liverpool claimed the league title more than half a century before Chelsea and subsequently won it more than any other club. They lead 5-0 on European Cup victories, 7-3 on FA Cup wins. Within the record books, Liverpool's status as the heavyweight champions of English football is undisputed; why worry?

Simple. Chelsea make the Kop hot under its collar because their recent success represents a challenge to the established order. The defence mechanism is to crow about history as if Roman Abramovich and José Mourinho cannot be part of it; as if Kenny Dalglish was not also an expensive import to an already successful club, much the same as Andriy Shevchenko; as if it would be possible for a business to use anything but its bank balance to meet the challenge laid down by Liverpool and their G14 allies, and the privilege and self-interest they represent.

The same emotion came to the fore when Lucas Neill chose West Ham United over Liverpool. It was as if the new money had no right to be at the same table. Yes, maybe Neill did go south for the wrong reasons — certainly West Ham have got about as much from their spending spree as Robert P. McCulloch, the American entrepreneur who in April 1968 paid $2.46 million for London Bridge, supposedly in the belief he was getting the one with the towers. Yet either way there was an awfully arrogant presumption on Merseyside, where it was treated as heresy that Neill should not respond to a click of the fingers, as if the hierarchy of English football should never be subject to change.

Arsene Wenger was at it, too, this week, denouncing a system that allows Chelsea to thrive with operating losses of £80 million, while pretending the structure of high-end European football is not the root cause of this problem. Those who despise Chelsea invariably fail to answer one basic question: how else are a team meant to break into the cosy club that is the Champions League, and remain there, without spending beyond their means?

There are occasional interlopers, such as Celta Vigo, of Spain, but they do not last without sustained investment. The Champions League is set up selfishly to maintain the needs of a tiny elite — that, fortunately for Wenger, includes Arsenal, despite their limited success in European competition (two trophies, 24 years apart, since entering the Fairs Cup in 1963) — and the only way around that is for an emerging club to plunge into debt in the hope their gamble brings reward. Some try and fail, such as Leeds United; others, such as Chelsea, are insured against financial oblivion by the wealth and ambition of their owner.

The parvenu nature of Chelsea's arrival makes the G14 cabal resentful and good old-fashioned jealousy does the rest, but to bleat on about fairness or even history misses the point. What is better for football: that Liverpool win a sixth European Cup, or Chelsea win a first? And, if not Chelsea, then who would we like to see at the top table? Blackburn Rovers? Bolton Wanderers? An efficiently run small club, punching pluckily above their weight? Oh, please.

Wenger's regard for lesser teams was demonstrated on Saturday when Blackburn earned a hard-fought if unappealing draw at the Emirates Stadium in the FA Cup fifth round. Did Wenger congratulate Mark Hughes, the Blackburn manager, that with a fraction of Arsenal's resources and some of his best players missing, against a team with some of the finest technical footballers in the world, he had conjured a stifling stalemate and reduced Arsenal to a handful of attempts on goal? No, he called for replays to be abolished because they interfered with his Champions League schedule, not to mention Arsenal's bold and fascinating assault on third place.

If Wenger had his way, Blackburn's reward for holding firm for 90 minutes away from home would be to play another 30 minutes at Arsenal's ground and then, if necessary, take penalties before a partisan home crowd. Sounds fair.

Wenger did not suggest that if a single encounter was to decide Cup ties, perhaps a seeding system could operate so that the higher-positioned side on the day of the draw always played away. Nor did he advance the reappraisal of wealth distribution to compensate smaller clubs for loss of earnings, FA Cup revenue clearly being of more importance to those denied the lucrative drip-drip of endless European group games. In fact, Wenger made no attempt to see beyond Arsenal's point of view at all. Noticeably, he is no advocate of settling Champions League fixtures in such a slapdash manner.

He is not alone in this self-absorption. When pushed, he admitted he would not necessarily practise what he preaches given the same opportunity as Chelsea, conceding that Arsenal would have welcomed Abramovich's millions, too. When tested, very few pass football's morality test. The Liverpool supporters who mocked Chelsea's Russian revolution were not so negatively vocal about the arrival of George Gillett Jr and Tom Hicks, the new American owners, despite some awkward references to franchises and Liverpool Reds at the press conference. Even Manchester United diehards, while still paying lip-service to the antiGlazer movement, have been forced to admit that the impact on the club has been minimal. Same manager, improved squad, better league position, what is not to like?

Yes, it would be lovely if all clubs could be run by the local pork butcher with a lifetime of devotion to the cause and a shrine to some bygone wing half in his office above the shop, but in times when the game makes millionaires in months, not even years, that is not going to happen. History will be written, in part, by gatecrashers from Siberia and if your club are lucky enough to find one that wants to give your best player 100 grand a week, why argue?

So much of the antipathy towards Chelsea is hypocritical anyway. Wenger rightly questioned the connection between Chelsea and PSV Eindhoven, but what of Arsenal's links to Beveren, the Belgian team? "There is one difference — they do not play in the Champions League," he said. The follow-up question surely concerned when Wenger had first been aware of his ability to forecast the future.

Right now, it must be said, Beveren show no signs of Champions League potential, lying third from bottom in the Jupiler League. They have, however, competed in the European Cup and Cup Winners' Cup twice each, the Uefa Cup on four occasions, and reached the Belgian Cup final as recently as 2004.

The cooperation agreement with Arsenal lasted from 2001 to July 1, 2006 and was considered complex enough to warrant investigation by the FA and Fifa. It was alleged that a loan of €1.5 million (about £1.007 million) from Arsenal to a company called Goal had helped to secure Beveren's financial position, representing a breach of club ownership regulation. Arsenal claimed that this was an interest-free loan that had no impact on club administration and the FA and Fifa absolved all parties.

Less satisfactory was Beveren's status as a glorified clearing house for the youth academy founded by the former manager, Jean-Marc Guillou, in Abidjan. The squad contained a majority of players from the Ivory Coast (and still does) who take advantage of Belgium's loose work-permit regulations to find a shop window in Europe.

A recent graduate is the Arsenal right back, Emmanuel Eboué. So while Chelsea's links with PSV deserve exploration, they have not been alone in requiring the attention of football's lawmakers. Yet what is this — all of it, positive and negative — if not history? Arsenal's Ivorian production line, Liverpool's proposed move from Anfield under the auspices of their new owners, the Russian who transformed Chelsea and English football, almost on a whim. Even the theft of Wimbledon FC by an opportunist from 80 miles north will one day be part of football folklore. While stick-in-the-muds such as the one on this page are still spitting out the words Franchise FC, a new generation of supporters in Milton Keynes will be drawing on our disdain to fuel their identity, in a no-one-likes-us-we-don't-care kind of way.

No, it is not 18 league titles and five European Cups, but that was never just history anyway. That was genius. And, for the moment at least, Chelsea, Arsenal, MK Dons and the rest are a long way from there.


[url][http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/martin_samuel/article1415316.ece/url]
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 21, 2007, 10:35:12 PM
Decent result for the Blues tonight. To be honest Porto were average enough, and if Chelsea have of went after them more in the 2nd half we'd have won that one.

Top class display again by Percy Carvalho, Essien, Bridge, and young Diarra. Diarra playing only his 3rd or 4th game at right back restricted so-called danger man Quarasma (spelling) to one long range effort all night. Speaking of Quaresma (Spelling again), people slag Ronaldo, Drogba etc. but I never seen one inididual dive as much as he did tonight. To be fair the ref rarely fell for it, but probably should've booked him at some stage.

Shevchenko had another pretty good game, but was starved of posession. The number 7 took his goal really, really well.

The big down side tonight, another injury for JT who went off after 8 mintues with an ankle injury. The special  one made a wee mistake here, by delaying the sub until 12 minutes where by that stage Porto had scored. However he redeemed himself by immediately telling Obi Mikel, who was stripped off, to sit down, and sent Robben on. A fine Roben run sending Sheva away for the goal.
However Robben's lack of preperation saw him go off injured at HT. Both JT and Robben unlikely to make the CC final on Sunday.

Rating:
Cech 6
Diarra 8
JT (NLEFA)
Essien 8.5
Carvalho 9
Bridge 7.6
Maka 6
Lampard 5
Ballack 4 (!)
Sheva 7.5
Drogba 5

Subs
Robben 7
Obi Mikel 6
Kalou (NLEFA)


BTW....I have had a feeling for weeks that Sheva will get the winning goal this Sunday. Back in 2005, Kezman had failed to ignite at the Bridge yet scored in the CC final. I have a feeling for the Ukranian on Sunday too. Check out his price at the Bookies...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on February 26, 2007, 10:09:26 AM
Good win yesterday, hopefully steers the team toward other silverware this year. Thought Carvalho in 1st half was excellent and introduction of Robben was masterclass.
Although imo this game really showed who will be top in england in the next ten years, Arsenal have some great youth players coming through unlike ourselves :'(


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 26, 2007, 11:34:53 PM
My head hurts  :'(

Long day yesterday, but a thoroughly enjoyable one. Arsenal def impressed more than I thought they would, and could've been more than 1 up early on. Thought Percy, Cech and Drogba were outstanding, with the ill Lampard plus Ballack (Again!) poor.

Can't understand why Wenger continues to expose Senderos to Drogba, every time he gets caned.

JT...mister indestructable again! Credit to Gary Lewin and the Arsenal players for their reaction.

The brawl was somethnig and nothing. However I cannot see what Mikel does to justify a red card? I think Eboue will get one in retrospect.

QuoteArsenal have some great youth players coming through unlike ourselves
Wrong. Chelsea do have great youth players, Sinclair, Sahar, Diarra, Mikel, Robben, Woods, Stoch, Manciene etc etc. Six of those have played for the first team this season. Now will people like Sinclair, and Woods get the chance for extended first team runs? That's another question, but if Chelsea want to get their self sufficency target for 2010, they'll have to.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 27, 2007, 04:47:12 PM
Unlike Chelsea Manure are top of the league and in a strong position to go to CL last 8 because they are lucky!  Good man Moan-inho getting excuses in early.


United have had all the luck, says Mourinho


Matt Scott
Tuesday February 27, 2007
The Guardian


Jose Mourinho has claimed Manchester United have been fortunate in carving out a nine-point Premiership lead and believes "everything is on their side" in terms of lucky breaks in the title race.
Chelsea collected the first trophy of the season on Sunday with a 2-1 victory over Arsenal in the Carling Cup final. However, it allowed United to extend their Premiership advantage by three points on Saturday with a 2-1 win at Fulham.



Chelsea have 12 matches in which to recover the deficit but their manager has set about planting a seed of doubt in United heads. "I didn't see the Fulham game to be fair - we were travelling - but the information I have is it was completely undeserved," said Mourinho. "But football is about this. Sometimes you don't deserve it and you win. It's a game they could lose and in the end they win."
Mourinho may have appeared resigned to being disadvantaged by United's good fortune but he warmed to the theme, even referring to Ryan Giggs's controversial free-kick winner in the Champions League match against Lille. That match also saw Peter Odemwingie put the ball in the net only for the goal to be disallowed for a shove on United's defender Nemanja Vidic. "They go to the Champions League and have a disallowed goal for the opponent, and their goal is that [Giggs'] goal," said Mourinho.

"They go to Fulham and it looks like they deserve to lose and they win. They play in Tottenham, it's 0-0 and Cristiano [Ronaldo] dives, they get a penalty and win 4-0."

Despite evidently considering that Chelsea are due similar luck - and perhaps privately hoping his remarks might make referees administer it - Mourinho believes his players have it in them to force events in their favour.

"We have a match in hand to play," he said. "We have to try to go back to six points. At this moment we're in the last 16 of the Champions League, the last eight of the FA Cup and have won the Carling Cup. In the Premiership all we can do is keep winning and see if the next step is to close the gap or to open the gap.

"If the next step is to open the gap it's very, very difficult. If [Chelsea] close the gap and we can go from six points to four points, then everything is open."

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: full back on February 27, 2007, 04:50:21 PM
He is a complete feckin whinge.
Considering the luck Chelsea have had & crying about DIVING!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 27, 2007, 11:11:12 PM
Chelsea have had little luck this year IMHO in certain aspects. For example scoring last minute winners isn't really luck at all. It's about perserverance and belief and all those corny phrases.

I think the main 'luck' this year, has been that United have had no major injuries, and picked up no red cards at all in the league.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Gold on February 27, 2007, 11:12:46 PM
wots the story with Abramovic??

Any truth in this rift with Jose ??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 27, 2007, 11:17:46 PM
Well no matter what they say behind the scenes the evidence doesn't look good. The major stumbling block over the next 4-6 weeks will be if Chelsea offer contracts to Jose's back room staff, Clarke, Brito, etc etc. They are all out of contract in June I believe.

If they get contracts...Jose stays.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Gold on February 27, 2007, 11:36:40 PM
cheers
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 11, 2007, 01:18:08 AM
Geez I didn't think managing my own thread would be so much hard work!

Another good (ish) week from the BiB. Terrible performance against Porto on Tuesday night salvaged by the promising Obi Mikel. Initially I couldn't see what this guy had at all, but credit to him he has slowly got better week on week.

Yesterday's draw was ok (and another ish here). Valencia are no mugs, but I'd still be fairly confident of beating them, with possibly a repeat of the 2005 sf to follow!

Spurs the moro! It's funny to think how a lot of people perceive Chelsea's season to be so far, yet victory tomorrow will see Chelsea competing for a quadruple until early April at the least! Keane and Robinson a big blow for Spurs, but Chelsea still need to guard against Berbatov and Lennon.

2-0 to Chelsea is my prediction Drogba and Essien.

Sat Mar  3   Portsmouth   A   2-0   17:15   Premiership   PPV
Tue Mar 6   Porto   H   2-1   19:45   Champions League 16   ITV
Sun Mar 11   Spurs   H      12:45   FA Cup 6   BBC
Wed Mar 14Man City   A      20:00   Premiership   SKY
Sat Mar 17   Sheff Utd   H      15:00   Premiership   
Sat Mar 31   Watford   A      17:15   Premiership   PPV
Wed Apr 4   Valencia   H      19:45   Champions League QF   
Sat Apr  7   Spurs   H      12:45   Premiership   SKY
Tue Apr 10   Valencia   A      19:45   Champions League QF   
Sun Apr 15   Manchester United   H      13:30   Premiership   SKY
Sat Apr 14                      N      15:00   FA Cup Semi   
Sat Apr 21   Newcastle United   A      15:00   Premiership   
Apr 24/25   PSV/Liverpool   H      19:45   Champions League SF   
Sat Apr 28   Bolton Wanderers   H      15:00   Premiership   
May 1/2   PSV/Liverpool   A      19:45   Champions League SF   
Sat May  5   Arsenal                   A      15:00   Premiership   
Sun May 13Everton                   H      15:00   Premiership   
TBD   West Ham United   A      15:00   Premiership   
Sat May 19                      N      15:00   FA Cup Final   
Wed May 23      N      19:45   Champions League Final   
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 11, 2007, 03:44:58 PM
The Liverpool & Manure threads have been going for a good while now and the Chelsea one has just started, this thread is a bit like the club itself.....No history......
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 11, 2007, 04:12:43 PM
Quote from: Syd The Sailor on March 11, 2007, 03:44:58 PM
The Liverpool & Manure threads have been going for a good while now and the Chelsea one has just started, this thread is a bit like the club itself.....No history......

You should really read back on the thread Syd before posting.
[url][http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/martin_samuel/article1415316.ece/url]


Chelsea are over 100 years old, so how have they no history?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 11, 2007, 06:20:41 PM
Because you will be a mid table team again when Abramovich gets fucked off with youse and heads back to Russia. You really should have the offside rule explained on this thread as i would imagine most of the Chelsea fans are "new" to the game......
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 11, 2007, 08:04:24 PM
Sorry I think you misunderstood the first time I asked it, so I'll try again.

Chelsea are over 100 years old, so how have they no history?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: The Truth on March 11, 2007, 08:12:52 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 11, 2007, 08:04:24 PM
Sorry I think you misunderstood the first time I asked it, so I'll try again.

Chelsea are over 100 years old, so how have they no history?

I would think Syd meant that you have no "history" of success before the Russkie came along and most people cant see him sticking around indefinetley.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 11, 2007, 09:01:52 PM
History isn't about success. History is about everything that makes a Club what it is, the good and the bad. History is about Chelsea being the first Club to qualify for the European Cup in 1955, history is about the fantastic team of the 70s with Osgood, Cooke and co, history is about having to sell all of them players because the Club built a stand(!), history is about being 3 minutes from division 3 (old money) in 1983 only for Clive Walker to pull it out of the bag, history is about Chelsea beating the Liverpool in 1982 in the FA Cup 2-1, history is about John Neal taking over and wheeling and dealing the likes of Nevin, Dixon and Speedie to bring Chelsea to within sniffing distance of a league title, history is about making a balls of it, history is about almost going out of business in the mid 80s as Carver estates with their advisor David Dein looking to evict Chelsea from Stamford Bridge, history is about Ken Bates getting stuck in a taxi minutes from the court room and having to run(!!) to get a high court injunction served, history is about winning the full members and the ZDS cup and celebrating, history is about having the worst holigan elemant of nearly every Club in the country, history is getting to the 94 Cup final against Man Utd with almost a quarter of century of hurt ready to be blew away, history is hitting the bar and getting beat 4-0, history is about Hoddle leaving and Chelsea about to appoint George Graham only for the Chelsea fans to tell them to shove it up their holes, and sexy football is born. History is about Zola, Le Bouef, Vialli, Hughes. History is about a man called Matthew Harding trying to take over the Club he loves, and then being killed in a air accident. History is about saying 'this is our year' (Again!!) before going 2-0 down to Liverpool at half time and thinking we've f***ed it up. History is about winning 4-2! History is about waiting 26 years to get to a Cup final, and then wishing for 89 minutes 17 seconds that it was over. History is about Stockholm, and heading to the toilet as Zola comes off the bench and slams it home. History is about Trevor Birch going into the dressing room in May 2003, and telling the players that if Chelsea don't win today then the Club is probably gone. History is 2 hours later, and 2-1 winners. History is a fairy godmother from Serbia fulfilling the dreams of every football fan. History is Ranieri finally beating Arsenal, and Wayne Bride securing immortality. History is about TSO (c), and 2 league titles. History is about everything that we do in every day life that bends and shapes us.


Only the winning is achievement.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 11, 2007, 09:25:20 PM
Have you been drinking? History is about shitting yourselves in the biggest match in the clubs history at Anfield 2 yrs ago.........
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 11, 2007, 11:14:37 PM
Syd....your fond of the slaging, and the insults, but you avoid giving direct answers to the questions.

Yer not a politician are you?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 24, 2007, 11:09:10 AM
JOSE`S GREAT ESCAPE IN A LAUNDRY BASKET
football365.com



New reports have claimed that Jose Mourinho flouted UEFA's touchline ban in 2005 by using an earpiece, handwritten notes and a loud speaker before escaping detection via a laundry basket.


Mourinho's defiance has long been suspected yet its exact nature has remained shrouded in mystery for over two years.


The Portuguese manager was barred from having any contact with his players during the Champions League tie with Bayern Munich as punishment for questioning the integrity of referee Anders Frisk before and after the Blues' clash with Barcelona in the previous round.


However, an inside source has now revealed to The Times and Daily Mail how Mourinho remained in communication with both the Chelski bench and his team throughout the tie.


According to The Mail, 'Gaining access to the dressing room for the first leg at Stamford Bridge was simple enough. He arrived shortly after lunch, even though it would mean waiting more than four hours for his players to join him. "In the afternoon you haven't got anyone around," said the source. "He just walked in." It meant Mourinho was in place to give his pre-match team talk and all-important half-time address and watch the game on the television that is in the dressing room.'


"You can get mobile reception in the dressing-room," the source said. "It depends what network and in what room."'


Aware that the ploy of communicating directly to Faria throughout the opening 45 minutes had been detected, the Chelski coach apparently settled for a simpler method in the second half: writing notes from the dressing-room which goalkeeping coach Silvinho Louro would then retrieve and pass on to Steve Clarke, Mourinho's assistant.


And then it was time to make his incredible escape.


'Mourinho was not waiting for the players at the end of the match, which Chelsea won 4-2, because he had already allegedly clambered into one of the kit skips. He was wheeled out of the dressing-room by members of the backroom staff and, it is believed, back into the leisure club in the Chelsea Village hotel at the ground, where it had been reported that he spent the entire evening.


'In a passable impression of Inspector Clouseau, Uefa's hapless officials left none the wiser. Insiders claim Mourinho was so thrilled that he joked openly about his trip in the skip in front of his players at training the next morning,' reports The Times.


Emboldened by his escape, Mourinho then brazenly responded to media insinuations Faria had not used his hat just to protect him from the cold by ordering his fitness coach to attend the second leg's pre-match press conference in his place.


Nor was his nerve wavering. Undeterred by the mounting suspicion, Mourinho's ruse for the second leg in Germany was just as remarkable as his laundry basket getaway.


Having made an ostentatious appearance in the stands at the Olympic Stadium, Mourinho complained of media harassment and duly returned to the team hotel to enjoy its convenient privacy. According to the source, a loud-speaker had been set up in the Chelski dressing room, enabling Mourinho to talk to his players at half-time on the telephone.


'"There was a massive speaker," a source said. "José was at the hotel." Uefa's representatives had surpassed themselves yet again by approaching Faria to check if there was anything under his hat. There wasn't.'


Despite the revelations, Mourinho is unlikely to face retribution from the game's governing body. Their fingers burnt once before, it appears that UEFA are in no mood to confront the Chelski manager over the allegations.


"It was a crisis episode, as you remember, that everyone is better off forgetting," William Gaillard, the organisation's director of communications, said yesterday. "We simply wish all four clubs in the semi-finals the best of luck."



Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 15, 2007, 02:11:24 AM
mms://a1560.l2047343559.c20473.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1560/20473/v0001/reflector:43559 (http://mms://a1560.l2047343559.c20473.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1560/20473/v0001/reflector:43559)

For those still awake.....  :D

New season started....great!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 15, 2007, 02:13:41 AM
Ha....definately started.

Chelsea 1 down after 3 mins!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: new devil on July 15, 2007, 02:20:47 AM
really looking forward to the new season, title should go to the wire again and united to pipe yous again ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 15, 2007, 02:29:23 AM
Cech, Johnson, Ben Haim, Terry, Cork, Maka, Sidwell, Lampard, Cole, Sheva, Robben.

The Cork is Jack Cork....Alan's son of Wimbledon fame.

Quotereally looking forward to the new season, title should go to the wire again and united to pipe yous again

Cannaa wait either...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 15, 2007, 03:45:14 AM
1-1 Malouda capatilising on keeper error.

Sam Hutchinson playing well at left-back.


2-1 JT!
Great header.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 15, 2007, 04:03:05 AM
Chelsea win 2-1...

....Night all.

http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1073234,00.html (http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1073234,00.html)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: tyroneboi on July 15, 2007, 07:39:34 PM
could you tell me Norf what the hell them stupid celebrations were after 'JT' scored today? hope to god we dont see that everytime they score this season - it was cringe worthy stuff!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 15, 2007, 11:22:40 PM
http://www.mcx.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Malouda.avi (http://www.mcx.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Malouda.avi)

http://www.mcx.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Terry.avi (http://www.mcx.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Terry.avi)

For those interested...

Dunno TB....perhaps it's a preseason thing where-by the players are rusty at ALL aspects of the game :-)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 16, 2007, 09:46:51 AM
Quote from: tyroneboi on July 15, 2007, 07:39:34 PM
could you tell me Norf what the hell them stupid celebrations were after 'JT' scored today? hope to god we dont see that everytime they score this season - it was cringe worthy stuff!!

Just found out.... When a new player joins Chelsea they have to stand up in front of the squad at their first training session and sing a song. Malouda choose 'crazy frog' (!!!), so the players were mimicking the crazy frog on the motorbike.

Footballers...mad eh!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 18, 2007, 05:20:02 AM
(4-3-3)
Cech, Ferreira, Johnson, Terry, Hutchinson, Essien, Sidwell, Lampard, Cole, Shevchenko, Kalou.

HT: 0-0 v the mighty Samsung Bluewings!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 18, 2007, 05:36:10 AM
2nd hlaf line up:
Cudicini, Ferreira, Ben Haim, Carvalho, Diarra, Makelele, Whright Philips, Mikel, Robben, Malouda, Drogba.

Although I'd swear Hilario's in nets!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 18, 2007, 06:33:44 AM
Chelsea win it 1-0 Drogba with the goal.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 18, 2007, 01:58:02 PM
Robben out now...its falling apart!!  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: full back on July 18, 2007, 02:01:58 PM
Chelsea fans should be delighted Robben is gone.
He might do 1 or 2 decent things every 5 games & to get 15 million for him is fantastic.
Richardson leaves Utd & Robben leaves Chelski - 2 of the best moves in the market IMO
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 18, 2007, 02:23:53 PM
Where's the Robben deal being talked about as being agreed?
Strong rumours but nowt bar rumour at this stage.

Very injury prone though...would be sorta glad if he went, quality player even though he is.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: anportmorforjfc on July 18, 2007, 02:25:22 PM
bbc sport
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 18, 2007, 05:11:16 PM
I cannot understand how personel terms are agreed prior to Clubs agreeing a price!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: inthemaking on July 18, 2007, 07:43:09 PM
hutchinson is starting to shine do you not think?? has been playin well for the reserves and would love to see him get his chance this year
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 19, 2007, 09:52:11 PM
Quote from: inthemaking on July 18, 2007, 07:43:09 PM
hutchinson is starting to shine do you not think?? has been playin well for the reserves and would love to see him get his chance this year

Haven't seen too much of him bar the 45 minutes in the first friendly, but he was outstanding playing out of position at LB. Love to see him push on, and he has a chance because RB is position we've tended to struggle with.

Are you a Chelsea fan?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Balboa on July 19, 2007, 11:34:35 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 19, 2007, 09:52:11 PM
Quote from: inthemaking on July 18, 2007, 07:43:09 PM
hutchinson is starting to shine do you not think?? has been playin well for the reserves and would love to see him get his chance this year

Haven't seen too much of him bar the 45 minutes in the first friendly, but he was outstanding playing out of position at LB. Love to see him push on, and he has a chance because RB is position we've tended to struggle with.

Are you a Chelsea fan?

Is he the lad that won the 1st "Football Icon" ?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: inthemaking on July 20, 2007, 12:15:52 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 19, 2007, 09:52:11 PM
Quote from: inthemaking on July 18, 2007, 07:43:09 PM
hutchinson is starting to shine do you not think?? has been playin well for the reserves and would love to see him get his chance this year

Haven't seen too much of him bar the 45 minutes in the first friendly, but he was outstanding playing out of position at LB. Love to see him push on, and he has a chance because RB is position we've tended to struggle with.

Are you a Chelsea fan?

yea
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 22, 2007, 02:57:42 AM
Chelsea v Beckham LA Galaxy

Cech
Fererira
Terry
Carvalho
Ben Haim
Wright-Philips
Lampard
Essien
Malouda
Drogba
Kalou

0-0 at half time.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 22, 2007, 03:00:25 AM
FFS
ESPN have Alexi Lalas in the studio at halftime interviewing him....should he not be giving a teamtalk!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 22, 2007, 04:02:48 AM
FT
Chelsea win 1-0 Terry
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 22, 2007, 04:07:27 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 22, 2007, 03:00:25 AM
FFS
ESPN have Alexi Lalas in the studio at halftime interviewing him....should he not be giving a teamtalk!

If he was the manager - then yes, but seeing as he isn't - I think he's ok doing half-time interviews
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 22, 2007, 08:40:26 PM
QuoteIf he was the manager - then yes, but seeing as he isn't - I think he's ok doing half-time interviews

Is he not????
I swore it was mentioned several times this week? I must be confused, and he is general manager or sommit?

http://www.mcx.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Terry.avi (http://www.mcx.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Terry.avi)

Terry's goal from last night.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Balboa on July 22, 2007, 10:19:40 PM
No Yallop is the "gaffer" and Lalas is general manager, whatever that is......
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: flairgun on July 23, 2007, 03:29:50 AM
All the sports teams out here , NFL, MLB etc, have a General Manager (GM) whose role is similar to what's generally described as "Director of Football" in European soccer terms.
Basically Lalas would handle the signing of players and general club infrastructure stuff, while Yallop just manages the first team.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: girt_giggler on July 23, 2007, 12:43:35 PM

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Is he the lad that won the 1st "Football Icon" ?
[/quote]

nope
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 28, 2007, 04:52:17 PM
Friendly result today...

Rangers 2 Chelsea 0
Rangers scored 2 late goals (85th and 87th min I think), as their keener preperation for Tuesday's CL qualifier stood them in good stead.


Only listened to it on the radio though, and Chelsea sounded poor. It's only pre-season but we appear to be creating very little chances, and a lot of the players are a long way off the sharpness that they need. Hopefully it'll come in time....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 07, 2007, 07:09:34 PM
Although disappointed not to take home the 'trophy' on Sunday, I was quite pleased with the draw and display Chelsea got. In truth the game had some semblance to last season, United with the clearer chances, while Chelsea dominated possession.

The Blues lacked a cutting edge was always going to happen without Drogba, Shevchenko, and Kalou with Pizzaro not fully ready yet after his Copa America.

Plus points were Malouda, and Ben Haim who had good debuts, and SWP who looked good going forward but lacked quality in the delivery, however Drogba's absence would've been a factor here.

So with the new season just around the corner.


Goalkeepers
Cech, Cudicini, Hilario.

No problems here. We have the best keeper in the world, with Cudicini excellet back up. There is no way we can suffer the bad luck of last year....is there?

Left Back
Ashley Cole, Bridge
No problems here either. Only concern will be the early part of the season and hoping Cole stays free from injuries until Bridge is back.

Centre Defence
Carvalho, Terry, Ben Haim.
Phew...at last we have cover for Percy and JT, which should be added to with the signing of Alex next week.

Right back
Johnson, Ferreria
The problem position probably. Ferreria was very solid in his debut season, but has not really returned to this form since, bar the last few weeks of the season just completed. Johnson's attitude leaves a lot to be desired. Hopefully his sojourn at Pompey has seen him grow/wise up.

Wingers
Wright-Phillips, J Cole, Robben, Malouda, Sinlcair
Enough quality, but the ability to consistently produce as per Ronaldo and Giggs is absent. Joe Cole is probably the most likely to do it week in, week out. Hopefully Malouda can reignite his partnership with Drogba from earlier in his career. Don't expect Robben to be here at the end of this month.

Midfield
Makalele, Diarra, Sidwell, Lampard, Essien, Ballack, Obi Mikel
Hmmm....Some quality players, but as per last year I feel we are over subscribed in this position. In reality 5 midfielders would probably be enough, and if the offers were good I'd say farewell to Makalele (with thanks), and Ballack (F**k off). Essien must start, and if, as Jose states, we are to play 2 midfielders this season the other place will be between Lampard and Obi Mikel. At the minute Mikel should take it as Lamps has wemen problems and has been crap in pre-season.

Forwards
Pizzaro, Sheva, Drogba, Kalou
Quality in Drogba, but worries outside of that. If Pizzaro clicks we are in business, but if he doesn't?? Sheva looks worse in pre-season instead of better. This year he can't blame post WC exhaustion. Kalou looks promising but needs to be more consistent, and learn the offside rule.



Not as confident going into this season, as I was last season although still believe that José will deliver again. The two concerns at present are a) a good start, which is hampered by a critical injury list so early in the season b) January and the African nations.


KTBFFH
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: slow corner back on August 07, 2007, 10:28:57 PM
If you think that egos the size of Ballack and Lampards are going to sit on the bench while Mikel plays you are much mistaken. Ballack may well be sold to Real, personally as a Utd fan I hope he stays with Chelsea because he has huge reputation in Germany for causing unrest in a dressing room which I would love to see descend on Chelsea with all the vigour it did last season. ( Jose and Roman not speaking, noone speaking to shevchenko, Ballack looking down his nose on everyone, long may it continue )
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 08, 2007, 10:47:11 PM
QuoteIf you think that egos the size of Ballack and Lampards are going to sit on the bench while Mikel plays you are much mistaken.

I'm agreeing with you. 7 midfielders, is 2 too many. I'd prefer if we could ship two out, with Maka and Ballack the two I'd choose. Lampard, on preseason form, doesn't deserve his spot.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 27, 2007, 12:30:59 PM
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1121743,00.html (http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1121743,00.html)

Is this a joke???
Liverpool v Chelsea, and the Blues get a disputed penalty. Liverpool players surround the ref....
Pompey v Liverpool, and Pompey get a disputed penalty. Liverpool players surround the ref.....
United v Chelsea, and Obi Mikel commits a foul. Unted players surround the ref demaning action....the ref produces red card.

Same incident...and Chelsea players sund the ref contesting decision.

Of the 4 events, can anyone explain why Chelsea are the only team the FA charged with failing to control their players. The exact same thing happened last season as well.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 27, 2007, 06:51:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWZwBLh2JaM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWZwBLh2JaM)

Anti Chelsea...but clever  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 28, 2007, 02:59:43 PM
Good to see big Didier back....hopefully with plenty ro proove.
Percy's imminent return equally as important........
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 04, 2007, 12:13:23 AM
Brilliant!

Fantastic effort from the boys in Blue tonight. Welcome back Carvalho and Drogba, both were immense. The poor Valencia centre halfs had not got a clue how to combat Didier. I think Chelsea top the group now, after being written off last week!

The players I don't think were playing for the manager, but gave their all because it's their job, and they are showing some pride in the jersey.

You may not have seen it, but Joe Cole's pass for the winner was one of the best passes you'll see this season....and on a final point, the ref was excellent too. Didn't stand for the antics of both teams, but especially the Valencia players who tried to buy a few easy frees.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 10, 2007, 08:16:11 PM
I don't know much about Ten Cate but his Euro record with Ajax this year leaves a lot to be desired....

...only good news is that Clarkey is staying...apparently!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 27, 2007, 05:02:18 PM
Stunning performance by the Blues today.

If there are people who think Gerard is better than Lampard, today shoots that idea down. Frank's passing today was as good as I have ever seen.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 11, 2007, 05:00:00 PM
A wee bit unlucky today, considering we played most of the game with what some would say our 2nd choice back 5.

Cudicini
Bridge
Ben Haim
Alex
Belletti.


Chelsea dominated the game for large spells with Lampard and Alex excellent. Drogba missed an absoloute sitter in the first half, but got his goal with 11 minutes left. Everton were then forced to come out, and Cahill scored a last minute brilliantly executed overhead kick! Essentially there first shot on target.

The main outcome for today is that this must be the end of the road for Wright Phillips. Shocking today. He would whizz past 2 or 3 men and then put his cross in the stand. If he did it once he did it 3 or 4 times. In addition I am starting to run out of patiance with Joe Cole. One decent pass per game, does not cut it.

If you take our starting 11 it is in my opinion equal to most, great centrer backs, world class keeper, excellent midfielders, Drogba up front.

However compare the likes of SWP, Malouda, and Joe Cole to Nani, Ronaldo, Giggs etc and you can see where our problems are.

Lastly...Julian Lescott was brilliant today. He give Drogba next to nothing.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: ExiledGael on November 11, 2007, 05:05:15 PM
Interesting quotes from Grant post match. Wonder how much pressure is on him from above in terms of style of play, tactics etc

"We moved the ball very well played and created a lot of chances. People like this kind of football but what happened today is one of the reasons I don't because from nowhere they scored a goal!"

Sounds like Mourinho
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: SeanSouth on November 11, 2007, 05:06:14 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on November 11, 2007, 05:05:15 PM
Interesting quotes from Grant post match. Wonder how much pressure is on him from above in terms of style of play, tactics etc
"We moved the ball very well played and created a lot of chances. People like this kind of football but what happened today is one of the reasons I don't because from nowhere they scored a goal!"

Sounds like Mourinho

An enormous amount i would think
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 11, 2007, 05:11:11 PM
Never heard the interview EG....but a stupid comment. Effectivelly he's almost confirming he's a puppet!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 05, 2007, 11:00:46 PM
Strong rumours of Ronaldinho to the Bridge in the transfer window along with Anelka. Also a rumour that Drogba out until Feb with knee problem :-(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: An Fear Rua on December 05, 2007, 11:27:44 PM
Drogba will be at the african nations
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: under the bar on December 06, 2007, 12:16:58 AM
QuoteStrong rumours of Ronaldinho to the Bridge in the transfer window

Brilliant news for United.  Keep the Chelsea retirement home for passed-it prima-donnas going and Roman' billions will soon be pissed  away cockney-style.  Fork out 50M for Cafu & Inzaghi while you're at it!   :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: SeanSouth on December 06, 2007, 10:17:38 AM
Quote from: under the bar on December 06, 2007, 12:16:58 AM
QuoteStrong rumours of Ronaldinho to the Bridge in the transfer window

Brilliant news for United.  Keep the Chelsea retirement home for passed-it prima-donnas going and Roman' billions will soon be pissed  away cockney-style.  Fork out 50M for Cafu & Inzaghi while you're at it!   :P

Or £35 million for Carrick & Hargreaves........
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: full back on December 06, 2007, 10:27:04 AM
Or spend £25 million on Heskey & Cisse.........
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: SeanSouth on December 06, 2007, 10:28:29 AM
Quote from: full back on December 06, 2007, 10:27:04 AM
Or spend £25 million on Heskey & Cisse.........

We saw sense and got rid of them.........
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on December 06, 2007, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 05, 2007, 11:00:46 PM
Also a rumour that Drogba out until Feb with knee problem :-(

www.skysports.com

Didier Drogba has rocked Chelsea with the news he requires knee surgery that will rule him out for months, according to The Times.

The influential striker had a scan on Wednesday which reportedly revealed degeneration in his left meniscus.

Chelsea must now decide whether to patch him up for a frenetic festive period of fixtures, or allow him to go under the surgeon's knife immediately in a bid to clear up the problem without delay.

The club's medical staff will meet with Drogba on Thursday before discussing the best course of action with first team coach Avram Grant.

Chelsea could ask the Ivory Coast international to play on with the aid of painkilling injections until January, when he will not be available in any case due to international commitments at the African Cup of Nations.

Surgery would require a recuperation period of between three and five weeks, not taking into account the time it would take to recover full match fitness.




accoridng to the bbc article dider has announced he is more focused on Country than cliub. Not good times
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Over the Bar on December 06, 2007, 02:15:22 PM
QuoteWe saw sense and got rid of them.........

Don't forget tens of milliions spent on chaff since the '05 ECL win, most of whom hardly kicked a ball before being binned.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: gawa316 on December 06, 2007, 04:41:44 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on December 06, 2007, 02:15:22 PM
QuoteWe saw sense and got rid of them.........

Don't forget tens of milliions spent on chaff since the '05 ECL win, most of whom hardly kicked a ball before being binned.

Veron ???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: ExiledGael on December 06, 2007, 05:06:17 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 05, 2007, 11:00:46 PM
Strong rumours of Ronaldinho to the Bridge in the transfer window along with Anelka. Also a rumour that Drogba out until Feb with knee problem :-(

Shall I go out now and put a bet on that Anelka move?? Good call
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Over the Bar on December 06, 2007, 09:09:49 PM
QuoteVeron  ???

YEs absolute sh*te.  Lost us the chance to do 4 in a row.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 08, 2007, 08:11:25 PM
Fairly ordinary performance from the Blues today. Dominated the game, but looked very toothless in the final third, with Ashley Cole, JT, and Mikel the only players to rise above the average. Saying that Sunderland have performed well at OT, and The Emirates so the result should be in perspective.

Drogba's loss is massive. The big lad could now be out until the end of Feb if you count the ANC. Sheva, nor Kalou has the ability to replace him or get goals regularly, and Pizzaro is still unproven. Chelsea's best chance now is to 'get by' until January and get a 'goalscorer' on board.

Echoes of last season where the season was blown over Christmas due to injuries to Cech, Terry and Carvalho!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Stalin on December 08, 2007, 08:14:10 PM
A Chelsea supporting Tyronie. Hmmm. So GAA started in 2002 was it? And soccer in 2003/4?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 08, 2007, 08:32:07 PM
QuoteA Chelsea supporting Tyronie. Hmmm. So GAA started in 2002 was it? And soccer in 2003/4?


:) Bad mood tonight are we?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 12, 2007, 12:26:28 AM
Very good performance by Chelsea tonight...until they ran out of luck in the final thrust. Thankfully no bookings or no obvious injuries in readiness for Sunday.

Some decent pass and move football tonight, but came up against a one man team in Canizares. I think the stat count was 20 shots to 3, with about 12 or 13 on target. Joe Cole hit the post, and Kalou managed to hit the bar when presented with an open net from 6 yards out! Shevchencko worked very hard, and looked a bit sprightly around the box. Wayne Bridge was excellent IMHO.

Valencia were shocking!

Not too sure who could be up next, but I think Olympaikos is the stand out one at the minute.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 17, 2007, 05:04:26 PM
News that JT is out for 1.5-3 months, couple with Drogba out until the new year, and the African four off to the ANC, I think we can almost see farewell to the title this year again. It's the second season in a row we are entering the Christmas period minus our two centre backs, Percy and JT.


Ah well...hopefully we can get all back for a sustained attack on the CL.

http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1193254,00.html (http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1193254,00.html)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Square Ball on December 17, 2007, 05:48:41 PM
Norf

if Terry is out untin the end of Jan he misses:


Fixtures

Wednesday, 19 December 2007
Carling Cup
Chelsea v Liverpool, QF, 19:45

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Sunday, 23 December 2007
Barclays Premier League
Blackburn v Chelsea, 16:10

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Wednesday, 26 December 2007
Barclays Premier League
Chelsea v Aston Villa, 13:00

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Saturday, 29 December 2007
Barclays Premier League
Chelsea v Newcastle, 15:00

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Tuesday, 01 January 2008
Barclays Premier League
Fulham v Chelsea, 12:45

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Saturday, 05 January 2008
The FA Cup sponsored by E.ON
Chelsea v QPR, R3, 15:00

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Monday, 14 January 2008
Barclays Premier League
Chelsea v Tottenham, 20:00

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Monday, 21 January 2008
Barclays Premier League
Birmingham v Chelsea, 20:00

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Wednesday, 30 January 2008
Barclays Premier League
Chelsea v Reading, 19:45

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Not really a hard set of matches
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 17, 2007, 10:53:25 PM
Fair enough SB.
The fixtures are fairly winable, but NOT if we have no Carvalho or JT. Alex and Carvalho together should be ok.

I never checked the fixtures, but I know we have Lpool on the 10th Feb.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: The Real Laoislad on December 17, 2007, 10:55:14 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 17, 2007, 10:53:25 PM
Fair enough SB.
The fixtures are fairly winable, but NOT if we have no Carvalho or JT. Alex and Carvalho together should be ok.

I never checked the fixtures, but I know we have Lpool on the 10th Feb.

That will be a Top of the Table clash then...Mark my words!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Square Ball on December 18, 2007, 07:45:42 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 17, 2007, 10:55:14 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 17, 2007, 10:53:25 PM
Fair enough SB.
The fixtures are fairly winable, but NOT if we have no Carvalho or JT. Alex and Carvalho together should be ok.

I never checked the fixtures, but I know we have Lpool on the 10th Feb.

That will be a Top of the Table clash then...Mark my words!!

you get a shock LL?  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 19, 2007, 01:43:30 AM
Looks like Ballack, and even better, Carvalho back for the CC tonight!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 21, 2007, 04:56:56 PM
Jose's back...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article610604.ece (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article610604.ece)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 24, 2007, 01:58:11 AM
Great result for the Blues on Sunday, although somewhat luckilly. One unusual elemant of a Blackburn/Chelsea game today is that they didn't try to boot us around the field as they normally do (e.g. Feb 2005). They played some good football, and Bentley especially stood out. Hughes the fecker always gives Chelsea a game, but rolls over in a more conventional style against United.

However the neversaydie culture that Mourinho has installed at the club still resonates as Chelsea battled for the win, thanks to a sublime pass from Kalou, and a finish by Joe Cole.
http://www.chelseavideos.co.uk/JCole/J%20Cole%20v%20Blackburn%2007.avi (http://www.chelseavideos.co.uk/JCole/J%20Cole%20v%20Blackburn%2007.avi)

Aside from this Kalou, and Cole were woeful.

Best for Chelsea today was the rock Percy Carvalho, and the excellent Lampard.

The big downside from today is Cech's injury. Coupled with Cudicini's absence we are again into the holiday games without our two first choice keepers, and Terry. That aside, on paper at least, that's our hardest of the 4 out of the road.


Still thinking winning the league is going to be very tough, but with 2 less home games played in comparison to United and Arsenal, and with our trips to Old Trafford, The Hameroids, and Anfield out of the road it keeps the dream alive.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 26, 2007, 09:47:27 PM
Norf Tyrone shakes head.

What the feck was that about? At long last Roman got the football he desired. Does he feel any better tonight? Who knows. Who cares. Me...pissed aff to the back teeth. How can you be 3-2 up, with a man advantage and blow it...twice.


Ref was awful, and got almost everything wrong. First Villa goal was offside, Chelsea should've had a pen for a shove on Ashley Cole, penalty that we got looked harsh, free that we got for the 4th goal looked harsh, and then Cole's 'handball' in injury looked nonsense. Ref looking straight at it doesn't give it, but linesman at a 90 degree angle does!

However it doesn't get away from how inept the performance was. It shows the value of Drogba, Terry and then Lampard who went off after 15-20 minutes. Sheva played well, and looked like he waas buzzing..then got subbed! Carvalho played well, and then made a idiotic tackle (Played the ball, but deserved to go). Essien, and Joe Cole were simply dire, and Cech another error(!).

Villa were very good, and more than deserved their point. Agbonlahoyer (Spelling), and Young are flying machines, and the team in generally- despite the 4 goals- are well organised and very hard to break down.

The league is looking a distant hope now, and only an injury crisis will curtail Man United. And when I mean crisis, I mean Ronaldo or/and Vidic out for a while.

Concentrate on the cups as they say!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Square Ball on December 27, 2007, 07:17:12 PM
Norf it gets worse for you, from the BBC

Lampard sidelined by thigh injury 

Lampard was sidelined for six weeks earlier in the season
Frank Lampard will miss the rest of Chelsea's festive season programme because of a thigh injury.
The England midfielder limped off after 26 minutes in Chelsea's 4-4 thriller against Aston Villa on Boxing Day.

"Scans have revealed a tear in Frank Lampard's right thigh. The tear is not the same leg that Frank injured earlier in the season," said a club statement.

"He will begin rehabilitation immediately and we hope to have him back playing within a few weeks."

Lampard's injury is yet another setback for Chelsea's title aspirations as they trail Premier League leaders Manchester United by seven points.

Manager Avram Grant is already without captain John Terry and striker Didier Drogba through injuries.


Carvalho's challenge received an instant red card

Ricardo Carvalho faces a likely three-match suspension after he was sent off for a two-footed tackle on Gabriel Agbonlahor at Stamford Bridge.

Chelsea have confirmed they will not appeal against Carvalho's dismissal, but will do so for Ashley Cole, who was also sent off for deliberate hand ball in stoppage time against Villa.

The England left-back will have his case heard by the Football Association on Friday.

"It was not easy before without the injured and it's still not easy now, but this is the situation and we need to make the best of it," Grant told BBC Radio Five Live.

Grant's problems will be further exacerbated when he loses Drogba, Salomon Kalou, John Mikel Obi and Michael Essien to the African Cup of Nations in Ghana next month.

Their departures, along with injuries and suspensions, will mean the Israeli is likely to dip into the transfer market to strengthen his weakened squad.

"Everything is always about January because the transfer window is open," said Grant.

"The injured players and the African Nations Cup will make us think more about what we need to do."

Lampard had been sidelined by a thigh injury for six weeks earlier in the season.

The 29-year-old is Chelsea's joint top scorer, along with Drogba, with nine goals in all competitions this season.







Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 28, 2007, 07:27:00 PM
Wha!

The TV pictures show that Cole didn't handle the ball, yet his appeal fails! No wonder Chelsea fans think there is a conspiracy against the Club!!



Knight and Cole appeals rejected 

Cole and Knight were both dismissed by referee Phil Dowd
Aston Villa defender Zat Knight and Chelsea left-back Ashley Cole have had their appeals against their Boxing Day dismissals rejected.
Cole was sent off for deliberate handball in the 4-4 draw at Stamford Bridge, which led to a spot-kick and Gareth Barry's last-gasp equaliser.

Knight was sent off by referee Phil Dowd for a foul on Chelsea's Michael Ballack that saw a penalty awarded.

Both players will now serve a one-match suspension with immediate effect.

Aston Villa boss Martin O'Neill told the club website: "We are obviously disappointed because we thought we had a case."

Knight will now miss Saturday's game at Wigan, while Cole will miss the Blues' match against Newcastle.

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With Villa leading 2-0, Knight was sent off just before half-time for a challenge on Ballack, with the subsequent penalty converted by Andriy Shevchenko.

O'Neill claimed the German international dived to win the spot kick, but Ballack has protested his innocence.

"For me there is no discussion about this," he told the London Evening Standard.

"I had the ball and two guys, not just one, came and one pushed me. It was a clear penalty."

Cole was shown a red card in the 90th minute for handball after clearing Gabriel Agbonlahor's header off the line, with the England left-back claiming he headed the ball clear.

Chelsea's Ricardo Carvalho saw red for a two-footed lunge on Agbonlahor and has since apologised for the tackle.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 29, 2007, 05:29:32 AM
Translated from Argentinian reuters below. Essentially Chelsea have signed Franco Di Santo, 18yo striker, for £3.4 million. Di Santo is rated as one of the world's hottest young talents.



QuoteANTIAGOChile, dic. 18 (UPI) -- the president of Italian Audax, Valentin Cantergiani, advanced to have an agreement with the owner of the Chelsea, the Russian industralist Roman Abramovich, so that the young Frank Argentine forward I gave firm Santo by the popular English picture. The big shot of the set of colony declared to the newspaper Third that the ex- ones selected ' albicelest sub-20 is soon to file by the ' Bleus', one of the most powerful clubs of the world. "He is almost everything decided, only lack details that would not have to be a problem. Which? To put to us in agreement in the percentage that it will have left to Audax for one second transference, but all other already he is defined ", assured Cantergiani. I gave Santo took leave Monday of its companions to the square of Florida, as soon as Audax, winner of the regular phase of the Match of Closing, is outside in the semifinals of the second annual contest. Chelsea would have to disburse by the player of 18 years, of 1,93 meters, a total of seven million dollars. The been born one in Mendoza would arrive in the next days to London to sign by five years with the Chelsea, picture champion of the Premier League in seasons 2004-2005 and 2005-2006. I gave Santo would not occupy seat of foreigner in the English club when counting the ram with Italian antecedents.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 29, 2007, 10:15:18 AM
The stats don't add up?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;jsessionid=ONS4SXTFBKTLLQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/sport/2007/12/29/nosplit/sfnsta129.xml (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;jsessionid=ONS4SXTFBKTLLQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/sport/2007/12/29/nosplit/sfnsta129.xml)

Chelsea 14th most fouls
Chelsea most red cards
Chelsea third most yellow cards
Chelsea second most fouled against club!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 29, 2007, 11:07:59 AM
QuoteThe stats don't add up?

It's not about quantity it's about the type of foul, Chelsea are a very cynical side and I for one are glad to see referees standing up to them.

Surprised that Liverpool have had no red cards this year  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 29, 2007, 11:24:55 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 29, 2007, 11:07:59 AM
QuoteThe stats don't add up?

It's not about quantity it's about the type of foul, Chelsea are a very cynical side and I for one are glad to see referees standing up to them.

Surprised that Liverpool have had no red cards this year  :o

Crouch has one, but it was in the C Cup. When Clattenberg and Gerard are close friends you wonder!

I understand what you are saying re the type of foul Dinny, and when you look at people like Mikel who's tackling is very poor it adds up. However since Jose left I think refs are not as afraid to book Chelsea players, and indeed some are evening old scores. The Cole example at the weekend adds to that theory, where a ref get a decision wrong, and still it's not rescinded.

As an aside to the foul stats, the crossing stats show two things, 1. With no Drogba we've no aerial threat 2. SWP and Joe Cole are not good enough. Cole was in the past, but needs to reproduce....quickly.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 29, 2007, 11:46:26 AM
QuoteHowever since Jose left I think refs are not as afraid to book Chelsea players, and indeed some are evening old scores. The Cole example at the weekend adds to that theory, where a ref get a decision wrong, and still it's not rescinded.

That appeals process is a joke and Cole looked liked he headed the ball away and at it was inconclusive at worst but it didn't look like a handball, unfortunately for Chelsea Ashley Cole is not particular popular with anyone and his reputation did him no favours.

Chelsea are probably the only top 4 team that can't be bullied, they are well able to match fire for fire and can win in different guises but with players like Cole, Carvalho, Terry, Essien, Mikel, Makelele Ben Haim and Drogba how can you surprised these guys pick up red and yellow cards, I mean with the exception of Ben Haim those are all good footballers with bit menance, something the Arsenal players at times can do with...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 29, 2007, 12:20:24 PM
Fair point Dinny, but I still think we can be sinned against more than the sinner. The example where Chelsea appear to be the only team cited for surrounding the ref being a case in point. We have in the most being guilty as charged, but I see it happening often (Villa on boxing day as an example) and nowt being said or done!

Arsenal are no angels either (Gallas, Fabregas, Eboue, Toure, Flamini) with players who can mix it. Tonight's game is crucial for Arsenal. When Chelsea won that first premiership the key game was a night game in Feb against Blackburn. Rovers kicked Chelsea off the park (literally in Robben's case), but Chelsea held firm to take 3 points. The pysche that gave was crucial. Arsenal could get that tonight, or expose doubts.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 29, 2007, 02:24:55 PM
Geezus...today's team.

Team News; Hilario; Beletti; Alex; Ben-Haim; Bridge;Mikel;Ballack(c);Essien; SWP; Kalou; J.Cole. Subs; Rhys Taylor,Ferrira; Sidwell; Sinclair; Pizzaro.

Missing...>Cech, Ashley Cole, Terry, Carvalho, Lampard, Drogba, Shevchenko, Malouda, Makalele.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 29, 2007, 09:22:07 PM
And they say a weeks a short time and all that...........

Just 3 days after a linesman's incorrect call costs Chelsea 3 points, today's linesman gifts us the win. Kalou was about 2 yards offside when he bagged the winner.

I thought this game was more exciting than Wednesday's 4-4 draw. Chelsea dominated the first hour with Ballack pulling the strings, with Cole and SWP aided by Belletti and Bridge improving on recent displays. Belletti and Bridge are much more offense friendly than Fererria and Ash Cole, and Chelsea always look better going forward with them playing but weaker at the back. In truth Chelsea should've closed out the opening 60 minutes with at least one more goal. Poor shooting, bad luck and Shay Given thwarting the Blues.

However when Butt scrambled in the equaliser, panic ensued at the back, and for 20 minutes Newcastle could've stole the game. However the introduction of young Scott Sinclair put Chelsea back on the front foot, and they got the winner that although deserved was tough look on 'the toon'.


We now have the neighbours over the next week (Fulham and QPR), and hopefully Sheva, Cech and Ashley Cole will be back.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 01, 2008, 11:45:13 AM
Tricky one today...depleted squad, very local derby, and the Cottagers with a new boss.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: redcard on January 01, 2008, 07:13:29 PM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44329000/jpg/_44329208_hodgson_pa220.jpg)

Fitzgerald near bate yees today  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 08, 2008, 04:31:20 PM
Another semi final tonight, and a very tricky one beckons. The Toffees stand just 180 minutes from their first final in some time (Paul Rideout FA Cup?), and will be keen to press on and secure the silverware that Moyes probably deserves.

Chelsea however will be decemated again. No Cech, Cudicini, Terry, Essien, Lampard, Sheva, Kalou or Drogba! However young Rhys Taylor played for the reserves last night, which indicates that 1 of the keepers may be back! The one plus is that Arteta continues his supsension.

Chelsea probable:
Hilario
A Cole
Alex
Carvalho
Belletti
Mikel
Ballack
J Cole or Sidwell(!!)
SWP
Pizzaro
Sinclair

Expect to see young Ben Sahar on the bench.

A tricky one, and it could be a draw, but I'll take Chelsea 2-1 with Ballack needing to be the main man.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 08, 2008, 09:00:01 PM
Straight red for Mikel.

What did I say a few weeks ago. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2008, 12:32:50 AM
Fantastic game!

Probably the best Chelsea performance of the season all things considered. The Blues played excellent football, and destroyed Everton for the first hour, before the ref decided he wanted a contest, and sent Mikel off for what was nothing more than a yellow card.
In the first half Ballack was everywhere, and anytime Everton got into the Chelsea half Carvalho was imperious.

The sending off changed the game and allowed Everton to ratle Chelsea for 20 minutes. However the 10 men regrouped, and went back at the Toffees for the last 10 minutes, with Wright Phillips putting pressure on Lescott to nod past Howard!

The ref was a total disaster tonight. Maybe my blue glasses are steamed up, but Everton could've had 4 red cards!

Carsley was booked early on, and straight away went in late on Cole (I think), and the ref didn't even give a free!
Jagielka brought down Jole Cole when he was the last man, and again I don't think he was even booked!
Neville was on a booking, and fouled Malouda. Again a clear yellow....no booking.
McFadden very late on took a wild kick at Belletti...again not even a yellow!!

If Chelsea had've kept it to 11 v 11 I think we would've won that 2 or 3. A tough 2nd leg in Liverpool awaits...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2008, 05:23:17 PM
http://www.chelseavideos.co.uk/Wplillips/Wright-Phillips%201st%20v%20Everton%20CC%2008.avi
 (http://www.chelseavideos.co.uk/Wplillips/Wright-Phillips%201st%20v%20Everton%20CC%2008.avi)

http://www.chelseavideos.co.uk/Wplillips/Wright-Phillips%202nd%20v%20Everton%20CC%2008.avi (http://www.chelseavideos.co.uk/Wplillips/Wright-Phillips%202nd%20v%20Everton%20CC%2008.avi)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: ExiledGael on January 09, 2008, 05:53:08 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2008, 12:32:50 AM
Fantastic game!

Probably the best Chelsea performance of the season all things considered. The Blues played excellent football, and destroyed Everton for the first hour, before the ref decided he wanted a contest, and sent Mikel off for what was nothing more than a yellow card.
In the first half Ballack was everywhere, and anytime Everton got into the Chelsea half Carvalho was imperious.

The sending off changed the game and allowed Everton to ratle Chelsea for 20 minutes. However the 10 men regrouped, and went back at the Toffees for the last 10 minutes, with Wright Phillips putting pressure on Lescott to nod past Howard!

The ref was a total disaster tonight. Maybe my blue glasses are steamed up, but Everton could've had 4 red cards!

Carsley was booked early on, and straight away went in late on Cole (I think), and the ref didn't even give a free!
Jagielka brought down Jole Cole when he was the last man, and again I don't think he was even booked!
Neville was on a booking, and fouled Malouda. Again a clear yellow....no booking.
McFadden very late on took a wild kick at Belletti...again not even a yellow!!

If Chelsea had've kept it to 11 v 11 I think we would've won that 2 or 3. A tough 2nd leg in Liverpool awaits...

Just a tad blue-tinted alright.
In saying that I thought Mikel was unlucky to see red, and McFadden was very lucky not to have been spotted kicking out.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2008, 07:07:45 PM
QuoteJust a tad blue-tinted alright.
In saying that I thought Mikel was unlucky to see red, and McFadden was very lucky not to have been spotted kicking out.

Neville's was a clear as you'll get. He even took the armband off at one stage. Jagielka shoud've been red too, although I am not totally sure it was a free kick. Carsley was very lucky, and so too was McFadden.

In fact...no blue tints on at all, and they still could've/should've had 4 off!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 09, 2008, 07:08:37 PM
Sidwell's tackle on Carsley wasn't exactly nice either
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2008, 07:11:09 PM
It would've been a favour if The Sidder had've gone. If you look at it again, his foot landed on Carsley's calf on the ground...an accident I thought.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: passedit on January 11, 2008, 12:33:20 PM
Anelka gone for 15m according to 5 live
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: clarshack on January 11, 2008, 12:41:53 PM
a complete mercenary and a fine example of what is wrong with modern day soccer.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: the Deel Rover on January 11, 2008, 12:43:33 PM
was reading yesterday that if the deal goes through he will be the most expensive footballer in the world ,when all his transfers are added comes to over €110 million yo yos , Veron is the most expensive at the moment
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 15, 2008, 08:29:56 PM
Welcome Branislav!

http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1215933,00.html (http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1215933,00.html)

The rumour is another signing iminent as well. Not sure if its the completion of the Di Santo deal or not...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: ONeill on January 17, 2008, 11:04:01 AM
I was listening to the radio yesterday as a DJ was harping on about the behaviour of Chelsea fans on a train at the weekend. "No Black in the Union Jack', 'Blacks Go Home' and 'No surrender to the IRA' were just a couple of the songs he recalled being belted out throughout the journey from the match. I read this in the Telegraph:

QuoteChelsea are concerned there may have been a "racist and anti-Semitic" element to some of the fans' protests about Grant, whose Polish father, Meir, 80, is a holocaust survivor. Reiterating that the Israeli had the club's "support and confidence", Buck said: "We welcome all constructive points of view, but there have been a few which could be viewed as racist and anti-Semitic and that must stop immediately. It unfairly smears the reputation of the vast majority of Chelsea fans."

Unbelievable that this still exists in soccer at the highest level in England. Is it noticeable, Norf, at the ground or are they a hideaway brigade?

He went on to say that what was really amazing was their pro-SWP songs as well. Didn't make sense.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 18, 2008, 01:00:39 AM
In the ground I have never heard, nor seen anything racist, or anti-seitic etc.

Even in the pubs around the ground it's fairly limited. I would drink in a bar called so-bar which would be fairly hardcore, with some nasty looking sorts around it. You do get a few choruses of 'no surrender', the dambusters tune, and a song that sounds like an old RAF war song. As it goes though it's fairly timid, and personally I don't recall seeing/hearing any racism at any stage.

A lot of the singers seem to be doing it out of habit as opposed to portraying their true sentiments.

It's not a patch on the old days of the 80s, where by some fanzines printed the league tables, but took the trouble to discount all goals by coloured players.

The anti-semitic commesnts re Grant are blown out of proportion. When he took over from the TSO (Bows in reverance), there was a lot of resentment on the chat pages etc. Within this some people refered to him as a 'Jewish c**t' and what have you. Again though it was literally a handful of posters, and they quickly got banned.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 18, 2008, 10:42:10 AM
(http://incontext.blogmosis.com/see%20no%20evil.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 18, 2008, 04:07:43 PM
Is that Wenger on the bench Dinny? With Keown.


Coincidentally.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article700143.ece (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article700143.ece)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 18, 2008, 04:18:41 PM
QuoteIs that Wenger on the bench Dinny? With Keown.

:D

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 24, 2008, 10:09:48 AM
Ballack, Lampard, Essien, Kalou, Obi Mikel, Shevchenko, Drogba, Terry!

If someone had of told me that Chelsea would beat one of the big 4, in the post José era, without all those above, I would've made an assumption that we had bought Messi, Ronaldinho, and Kaka! But win we did...

A very professional display by the boys blue illumionous green! A midfield of Sidders, Wright Phillips and Makalele scared the begeesus out of me at 7pm when I seen the line up, but the 3 grafted and worked extremely hard, with SWP giving a masterclass of hard work, and tackling(!). At the back Alex, and Carvalho continued to question the automatic return of Terry, while in goals Petr Cech give a display that hopefully indicates his Christmassy blip is over.

The Toffees have come a long way this year, but I was very surprised that Moyes did not start with 2 up top, and more so that he didn't bring Anichibe on earlier. Everton's a good said, but as Moyes admitted post match they miss that magic ingredient. They are probably 3-4 good players away from challanging for the title.

Anyhow...the new Wembley, is it Chelsea's 2nd home? 3 in a row.......no hiiiiiissssttttttereeee.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2008, 11:09:07 AM
Song from last night....


He's here, he's there
He's f**king everywhere
He's Ashley Cole,
Ashley Cole

:D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: An Fear Rua on January 31, 2008, 11:15:59 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2008, 11:09:07 AM
Song from last night....


He's here, he's there
He's f**king everywhere
He's Ashley Cole,
Ashley Cole

:D

From this morning

His missus has left him, he only has his phone for comfort
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Minder on January 31, 2008, 11:17:41 AM
Quote from: An Fear Rua on January 31, 2008, 11:15:59 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2008, 11:09:07 AM
Song from last night....


He's here, he's there
He's f**king everywhere
He's Ashley Cole,
Ashley Cole

:D

From this morning

His missus has left him, he only has his phone for comfort

:D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 01, 2008, 11:10:30 PM
Crucial day in the premiership tomorrow.

Arsenal travel to a City side unbeaten at Eastlands, but not in tip top form at present. The Mancs head to WHL, against a Spurs side that are threatening to spark into life, and will be hoping to string a run of results together prior to the CC final.

Chelsea head to Fratton Park, to a Portsmouth side that have been poor all season at home. However my confidence is tappered somewhat by the ongoing absence of 7 or 8 big Chelsea names, and especially tomorrow where we will have Ben Haim and Alex and the back!

Could be a telling day tomorrow............
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 02, 2008, 06:48:19 PM
And so it comes to pass. Crucial day over, and the Goons with the initiative. Next weekend sees Chelsea and Man U host Lpool and Man City respectivelly. Arsenal at home to Blackburn Rovers.

Chelsea could've won today, but with the number of absentees they lacked a wee cutting edge. Joe Cole deserves to be dropped, but with no-one to replace him with this can't be done. The 2nd half of the game was excellent with the game end to end, and messrs Cech and James- as usual against the Blues- on top form. Diarra showed why he was wanted at Chelsea and Arsenal, with a MOTM performance.

However it's 6 behind now for Chelsea. I'd say this isn't impossible to overcome, but when there are two clubs ahead, you need two teams to drop points. Nine wins and a draw in Avram's last 10 games...impressive still!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: ExiledGael on February 03, 2008, 09:50:42 PM
Did anyone listen to the commentary on BBC from this game. Ashley Cole was taking dogs abuse at Fratton Park and the commentator said 'you've got to expect that when you're playing away from home', without even a chuckle. Freudian?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 03, 2008, 09:59:44 PM
Heard thart earlier on EG  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: new devil on February 03, 2008, 10:08:31 PM
 :D :D :D :D  Yea had some laugh when heard that
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Minder on February 03, 2008, 10:09:26 PM
Quote from: new devil on February 03, 2008, 10:08:31 PM
:D :D :D :D  Yea had some laugh when heard that

Ah well at least your happy Devil......
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: ExiledGael on February 03, 2008, 10:35:29 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 03, 2008, 10:09:26 PM
Quote from: new devil on February 03, 2008, 10:08:31 PM
:D :D :D :D  Yea had some laugh when heard that

Ah well at least your happy Devil......

Cheryl?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: new devil on February 03, 2008, 10:36:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 03, 2008, 10:09:26 PM
Quote from: new devil on February 03, 2008, 10:08:31 PM
:D :D :D :D  Yea had some laugh when heard that

Ah well at least your happy Devil......

No just laughed
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 18, 2008, 02:23:44 PM
On a day which was a bad one for the team with the 'isteree', Chelsea created a wee bit more equaling the longest unbeaten run in domestic cup competitions (20 I think). Win the Cup on Sunday, and take the record outright.

Also delighted to see Super Frank cement his place in the Chelsea hall of fame with goal number 100 on Saturday. I know a lot of non-Chelsea fans don't rate Frank, but watching him week in, week out he's a super footballer, and a very committed pro.

And as a last thing....looks like snow on the pitch in Athens for Tuesday night!!

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44432000/jpg/_44432099_lampardgetty.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2008, 10:00:42 PM
Geez that was boring. Chelsea had most of the ball, but lack invention that a Ronaldo might provide. Joe Cole and Malouda out wide are soooo pedestrian, especially with Ashley Cole playing. Bridgey, and Belletti every time, with SWP and maybe Kalou please.

Olympiakos looked very limited for the home side.

Alex, and Carvalho majestic again.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Minder on February 19, 2008, 10:02:23 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2008, 10:00:42 PM
Geez that was boring. Chelsea had most of the ball, but lack invention that a Ronaldo might provide. Joe Cole and Malouda out wide are soooo pedestrian, especially with Ashley Cole playing. Bridgey, and Belletti every time, with SWP and maybe Kalou please.

Olympiakos looked very limited for the home side.

Alex, and Carvalho majestic again.


Would you have "JT" back in there in the centre of defence, if i was a Chelsea fan i wouldnt.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 20, 2008, 12:50:13 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 19, 2008, 10:02:23 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2008, 10:00:42 PM
Geez that was boring. Chelsea had most of the ball, but lack invention that a Ronaldo might provide. Joe Cole and Malouda out wide are soooo pedestrian, especially with Ashley Cole playing. Bridgey, and Belletti every time, with SWP and maybe Kalou please.

Olympiakos looked very limited for the home side.

Alex, and Carvalho majestic again.


Would you have "JT" back in there in the centre of defence, if i was a Chelsea fan i wouldnt.


It's a toughie, and this is where Avram has to earn his crust. It's going to be difficult now to manage now that we have a full squad to pick from. Personally I'd keep Alex and Carvalho, but JT's leadership cannot be underestimated. It's important that if he's sub that he still inspires when and where he can.

For me:
Cech
Bridge
Percy
Alex
Belletti

A midfield diamond of;

Mikel
Lampard
Essien
SWP

Anelka
Drogba
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 20, 2008, 12:50:34 PM
DEATH THREATS AND MYSTERY POWDER SENT TO CHELSEA BOSS

By Simon Evans, PA

Anti-Semitic death threats have been sent to Chelsea boss Avram Grant in a package containing a mysterious powder, police said today.

The club's training ground at Cobham, Surrey, was sealed off after a member of staff opened the package yesterday. A note addressed to Grant claimed the powder was lethal.

A police source confirmed that the note to Grant, 52, included the words: "You are a back-stabbing Jewish b******. When you open this letter you will die a very slow and painful death."

Death threats of a sexual nature were also made to Grant's wife, Tzofit, a well-known television personality in the couple's native Israel.

A spokesman for Surrey Police said: "We were called to Chelsea's training ground at Cobham at 12.15pm yesterday after they received a suspicious package.

"A white powder contained within the package was analysed by specialists from Surrey Fire Service and was determined to be a harmless substance.

"Detectives are continuing investigations to identify the source of the package."

At the time Grant and Chelsea were in Athens ahead of last night's Champions League 0-0 draw with Olympiacos.

Chelsea said in a statement: "A suspect package was sent to Chelsea's training ground yesterday. The required procedure for dealing with such matters was immediately activated and the police and other services were called to handle the situation.

"A harmless substance was discovered. The matter is still being investigated."

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: ONeill on February 20, 2008, 03:05:33 PM
Grant's wife - what a lady!

The Chelsea girl ready for a spanking

Move over, Nancy, English football has a new leading lady. The replacement for Jose Mourinho as coach of Chelsea comes complete with a wife who is a television star in their native Israel.

Tzofit Grant, 42, has at different times bathed in liquid chocolate and spaghetti, received a spanking from a sadomasochist and drunk her own urine, all while on air hosting a chat show.

Football experts predicted yesterday that she would bring new glamour to the Premier League and outshine Nancy Dell'Olio, 48, the long-suffering girlfriend of Sven-Goran Eriksson, the Manchester City manager and former England coach.

But the wife of Avram Grant, 52, who has switched from director of football to manage the first team at Chelsea, also has a serious side.


She has spoken emotionally of how she was sexually harassed by a neighbour at the age of nine and how her brother suffers from schizophrenia.

Websites in Israel were yesterday describing her as everything from "an obnoxious talk-show host" to a "sex icon".

On the eve of today's Premier League clash between Manchester United and Chelsea, British soccer writers were warming to the idea of a colourful new character on the sidelines.

When her husband was coach of the Israeli national team, she veered from being his loudest supporter in the stadium to screaming abuse when his team played badly.

One Israeli soccer writer said yesterday: "The tabloids will love her. She will be bigger than Nancy because she wants the limelight. But there will be no sex scandals. They are a very happy couple."

An Israeli journalist in Tel Aviv said: "She should be the partner of Jose Mourinho rather than Avram Grant because she is much more exciting."

But there was a word of warning. One senior sports commentator said: "She could be Chelsea's Achilles heel. The terraces will have great fun with her."

Grant, who learnt to strip down a rifle when she did military service in Israel, feels no need to conform in public. She drank her own urine from a glass on Milkshake, the magazine programme she hosted, while exploring whether it had any health benefits. The audience gasped, but she giggled and said: "Mmm, it tastes like water from the Dead Sea."

In an interview last week with an Israeli military TV station, she said: "I hope some of Avram's critics will think again about what they were doing to him.

"Avram is a person who is used to thinking positively. He does not deal with negative energies . . . He just moves forward."

Uri Geller, the Israeli-born spoon-bender who was once co-chairman of Exeter City football club, said: "She is a big star in Israel. She has a large personality and had a terrific talk show."

The couple met when he was 37 and she was 28 and married three months later.

She was an actress but got her big break when she became a co-host of Milkshake, originally a daytime show. She made it more feisty and it moved to a late-night slot.

As well as drinking urine, she has sat drinking red wine in a bath of spaghetti and tomato sauce wearing a bathing suit.

She once hosted a "miracle" on the show when a healer was supposed to use his "electrified hands" to make a disabled man walk. It turned out to be a hoax.

When she appeared with the sadomasochist, she allowed him to spank her and then accepted his invitation to punch him hard in the face.

She said she needed something to make her angry. "Think of Avram," said her guest.

Her husband came to British football last year as technical director at Portsmouth.

She initially stayed in Israel, where last year she appeared at a mental health charity event with her brother Amiram, to discuss how he had fallen ill with schizophrenia and announced that he was the Messiah.

When Roman Abramovich, the Russian billionaire owner of Chelsea, appointed her husband to the post of director of football last July, she moved to London with their son, Daniel, 13, and daughter, Rommi, 10.

Yesterday Chelsea seemed oblivious to the impending Tzofit effect. A source close to Abramovich said he had never met her and a team official said what the wife of a manager did was irrelevant to the club.

But Shaul Adar, an Israeli soccer writer, said: "She is very loud and attractive. She was the Ruby Wax of Israeli television.

"I was at one Israel game and she was the loudest person in the stadium.

"There were times when she couldn't go to matches because the fans vented their anger towards her.

"But when Avram got it wrong she sometimes joined the fans, cursed him and shouted: 'Make some substitutions now, you bastard'."


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2512393.ece
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 20, 2008, 03:40:17 PM
Geez O'Neill! I know news is slow getting to the Hill, but that story is 6 months old!

Smoke smell in pudding lane!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 01, 2008, 12:09:21 AM
Apologies for the tardiness of my thoughts on Sunday past, but I was hungover for 2 days, and then busy at work!

Are you ready Dinny...I think you're my only reader!  :D


Spurs were good. Chelsea were s***e.

Firstly the team that was picked in my opinion was good enough. It is more or less what I would've started with although I'd have Joe Cole over Anelka to balance things although I'm not Cole's biggest fan. Not one player, bar maybe Percy and Cech turned up, and it' wasn't until the 105 minute mark that Chelsea put Robinson under a bit of pressure.

Kudos to Ramos whose Spanish knowledge told him that Belletti is a very weak right back defensively. Going forward he's bombing but ask him to defend and you're in bother. The first 15 minutes Spurs went at Beletti time after time, and their confidence grew in spades.

The other strange thing was our midfield on Sunday. Neither Lampard, Essien nor Obi Mikel functioned at all. Lampard was probably not 100% fit, but I thought he tried at least. The other 2 looked totally lost. Essien I am worried about. In his first year he was iffy, but got good praise last year. However on reflection he filled in for Terry last year at centre back and at right back, so he didn't play midfield all that often. This year he appears to have reverted to his first season form.

Where to know for Avram? A lot of the fans have stood back and give him time while he has bedded in, but have become very anti-Grant these last few weeks. it wasn't just the Spurs performance (One shot on goal in 90 minutes), it was the Olympiakos game, and Liverpool game to boot. Both games barely had a creative moment.
There in lies our problem.

With 4 defenders, Essien and Mikel on the pitch you have 7 defensive minded players (Inc Cech), and 4 offensive (Some find Drogba very offensive). Of the four Wright Philips, and Joe Cole have their days, but are not in the same league as Ronaldo, Messi, etc. We badly lack a creative spark. Lampard will occasionally give it, but his fitness has been a concern.

Me thinks it's time for 4-4-2 either with a diamond to suit our current playing resources, or a conventional system that will result in a midfielder being axed, and new/fast wide men coming in.

The one bright spot though is the performance of the Chelsea youth team on Wednesday as they beat Port Vale 5-2 to reach the FA Youth semi final for the first time since 1973. The performance was fast, exciting, indeed everything Roman graves. Arnesan appears to be brining in some really promising kids that are 2 to 3 years from the first time Kakuta, Stoch etc. Blooding a few of these is a must to reach the 'break even' target!

KTBFFH
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 01, 2008, 02:20:46 PM
Cech

Ashley Cole
Terry
Carvalho
Ferreria

Maka
Lampard
Ballack

Joe Cole
Anelka
Kalou
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: new devil on March 02, 2008, 02:24:49 AM
See Cole's still good at scoring away from home 8)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 04, 2008, 09:26:35 AM
A ref with common sense. Well done Peter Walton! About fecking time a red card decision went in our favour. Over to you FA....

Referee says he was wrong to send off Frank Lampard

Matt Hughes

Frank Lampard is likely to escape suspension for his sending-off against West Ham United after Peter Walton, the referee, said yesterday that he was wrong to show the Chelsea midfield player a red card in the 4-0 win at Upton Park on Saturday.

It is understood that Walton wrote to the FA yesterday saying that he had looked at the incident again and had made an error of judgment. Lampard was sent off because, in the view of one of the assistant referees, he struck Luis Boa Morte in the face, although replays showed that he pushed the Portugal winger in the chest.

Lampard's appeal will be heard by a four-man judicial commission this morning, with Walton's testimony likely to carry significant weight. Chelsea must prove that there was a "serious and obvious error" to have the card rescinded and have submitted a DVD to support their case, as well as written submissions from several players.

Chelsea have become used to being frustrated by the FA's streamlined disciplinary process this season, with appeals against the red cards shown to John Obi Mikel, Michael Essien and Ashley Cole rejected, but they are confident of being satisfied on this occasion. Although Jérémie Aliadière, the Middlesbrough striker, suffered the double blow of being given a four-match ban as punishment for a "frivolous" appeal against his sending-off against Liverpool the weekend before last, there is one precedent in Chelsea's favour this season, with Lee Bowyer having a red card rescinded after West Ham United's league match against Birmingham City.

If Lampard achieves a similar result, he will be available for the FA Cup sixth-round tie against Barnsley on Saturday. Lampard's potential availability will give Avram Grant, the Chelsea first-team coach, another selection headache.

The England midfield player showed signs at Upton Park of developing a promising partnership with Michael Ballack, with the pair embracing after the Germany player had scored Chelsea's third with a stunning half-volley from a pass by Lampard. "It was important for us to win," Ballack said. "We had a bad performance last Sunday \ and got criticised, but we showed we are a good team. We lost one game, so everybody spoke about a big crisis at Chelsea, but that was not the reality."

Ballack credited John Terry with maintaining squad morale, through team-building exercises such as last week's paint-balling trip. "It comes from JT, the captain," Ballack said. "Sometimes during the season you have difficult moments, then you have to do something a little bit different."

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Puckoon on March 06, 2008, 04:56:51 PM
Muriniho wants to "Kill" Chelsea. :o :o

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7281395.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7281395.stm)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 11, 2008, 01:17:32 PM
very quiet in here since the weekend  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 11, 2008, 01:28:41 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 11, 2008, 01:17:32 PM
very quiet in here since the weekend  :D

I think I am still in a state of shock Gab! I was at a wedding so seen very little of the game, but Barnsley appeared to fight like tigers, and fair play to them.

I think Grant's tenure was undermined last night on Chelsea TV, as they reported Drogba and Lampard rested even though they knew Grant had stated after the game they were injured!

A few players probably signed their exit slips at the weekend mainly Essien, and Wright Phillips!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 11, 2008, 01:30:04 PM
I meant to add..

...the big rumour now is Laudrup (Getafe) taking over!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 12, 2008, 08:55:27 PM
2-0 up at the wee whistle. Very one sided with Joe Cole especially to the fore.

Lampard (Pen) and Kalou (Carrol error).

Anelka anonymous.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 12, 2008, 10:06:12 PM
Just the 4 for Super Frank tonight! Chelsea 6 Derby 1 at FT. Kalou and Joe Cole with the other two.


Cole was excellent, and tormented the, what has to be said a poor Derby side all night. It should really have been more. Cole was taken off with about 15 left, and completely lost our shape! Anelka, Drogba, Kalou and Sheva all on at the one time just confused things!

Anelka continues to disapoint. I was a bit unsure when he joined us, and hopefully I am prooved wrong eventually, but Chelsea can be a graveyard for strikers for some reason...Fleck, Sutton, Kezman, Sheva etc. I just don't think he can play up front of his own, and a conventional 4-4-2 would suit him better.

Still got to take the positives. Three points, and a wee help to the goal differance. Two tricky away ties now in the next 7 days, Sunderland and Spurs.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: ExiledGael on March 19, 2008, 09:04:21 PM
Chelsea 2-1 up at the half. Apparently Ashley Cole got away with a shocking challenge on Hutton just before the break. BBC even saying it was a legbreaker.

Incidentally, did anyone see Chelsea attempting the crossbar challenge on Soccer AM on Saturday? How shit were they? Even Avram had a go.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Minder on March 19, 2008, 09:42:46 PM
Chelsea have handed United the title by letting Spuds back into it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Minder on March 19, 2008, 09:48:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 19, 2008, 09:42:46 PM
Chelsea have handed United the title by letting Spuds back into it.

Chelsea are right back in the title race.......
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: ziggysego on March 19, 2008, 09:51:18 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 19, 2008, 09:48:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 19, 2008, 09:42:46 PM
Chelsea have handed United the title by letting Spuds back into it.

Chelsea are right back in the title race.......

4 all now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 19, 2008, 11:23:35 PM
Don't expect any rationale in this post tonight. Totally and utterly gutted. A performance that went from the sublime to the ridiculous tonight, and Mr Grant has written his own obitury.

He took Kalou and the absoloutely brilliant Joe Cole off for Alex (!!!!) and Ballack and handed Spurs the initiative. That said the game was there to be won. Spurs got 3 of their 4 from set pieces, and created very little from open play. It's along time since I seen a Chelsea side as weak at the back. Woodgate and Berbatov bullying Drogba and JT off the ball twice, both with a hint of climbing. The problem lies in their lack of confidence without Cech behind them. Carlo pulled off to unreal saves but doesn't inspire under the high ball.

Up front Joe Cole continues to improv every game. He tormented Spurs tonight, and his subbing was a joke decision. Drogba was his usual self. Brilliant and frustrating in equal measures. Chelsea broke 3 on 2 in the first half, and instead of letting Lampard through on goal, he tried a shot from 20 yards! Essien also hit the post, and Ashley Cole came close to a wonder goal from 40 yards!
The tackle refered to above, looked a good'un at first look, but the replays showed it in a less favourable light, and he was lucky not to be red carded.

The bright point of tonight....

....FA Youth semi final Villa 2 Chelsea 3 (3-4 agg).
Watched the first half of this, and Chelsea scored two stunning goals to reach the final for the first time since 1961. I'll post the goals tomorrow, but Gael Kakuta looks a real find. Is Arnesen starting to repay his bill?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2008, 11:25:19 PM
Norf, when was the last time Chelsea lost at home? League as well as other cups?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 19, 2008, 11:41:26 PM
Are you having a wee dig, as you know the answer?  ;)

Off the top of my head

Last league loss was Arsenal (2-1) in Feb 2004.
Lost in the league cup to Charlton on penalties in Oct 2005.
Lost to Barce in Champs league in Feb 2006.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: ONeill on March 20, 2008, 12:04:45 AM
Honestly didn't know. Just know it's ending on Sunday.....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Square Ball on March 20, 2008, 12:09:28 AM
Norf

I have no idea why he took Joe Cole of either, best player on the pitch IMHO, great save in the end mind you.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 20, 2008, 10:01:29 AM
Quote from: Square Ball on March 20, 2008, 12:09:28 AM
Norf

I have no idea why he took Joe Cole of either, best player on the pitch IMHO, great save in the end mind you.



Typical Carlo. Can pull off the greatest saves in the world, but scares the beejeezez out of ye too.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: mackers on March 20, 2008, 10:41:13 AM
I know all the teams do it but Chelsea remain the market leaders at this carry on of bullying referees. A Cole took it to new levels last night after nearly breaking Hutton's leg he mouthed at the ref for a good two minutes and then stood four or five yards away from him with his back turned...........I wouldn't make a good ref.......I'd have just shown the fcuker the red card!!! The usual suspects were helping him out.....JT and Lamps.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 20, 2008, 11:04:31 AM
Quote from: mackers on March 20, 2008, 10:41:13 AM
I know all the teams do it but Chelsea remain the market leaders at this carry on of bullying referees. A Cole took it to new levels last night after nearly breaking Hutton's leg he mouthed at the ref for a good two minutes and then stood four or five yards away from him with his back turned...........I wouldn't make a good ref.......I'd have just shown the fcuker the red card!!! The usual suspects were helping him out.....JT and Lamps.

Not often I agree, but Cole was bang out or order last night. His tackle was terrible, and then to protest in the juvenille way was embarassing. The ref could've showed him two yellows for the incident by rights.

I think JT and Lamps went in to remonstrate, and then thought better of it. I actually think they may have seen the tackle on a replay over the ref's shoulder, and thought feck that Ash your own on your own (No Cheryl jokes please).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 20, 2008, 05:21:26 PM
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1270200,00.html (http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1270200,00.html)

An apology from our Ash at least.....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 20, 2008, 10:48:26 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 19, 2008, 11:23:35 PM
The bright point of tonight....

....FA Youth semi final Villa 2 Chelsea 3 (3-4 agg).
Watched the first half of this, and Chelsea scored two stunning goals to reach the final for the first time since 1961. I'll post the goals tomorrow, but Gael Kakuta looks a real find. Is Arnesen starting to repay his bill?

Alright Norf, thought we did the hard part drawing the first leg at the bridge, from a Villa point of view our young lads did us proud against essentially Arnesen's fantasy football team pick of World football's youth players, this is a competiton that we have done well in over the years (beat Everton with Rooney in 2002), I was shocked to hear it was Chelsea's first final in over 50 years.  Shows you the emphasis or lack of emphasis Chelsea used to place on youth development, obviously they want that to change now.

Bright spot for us was the form of young Harry Forrestor ex-Watford like Ashley Young though will cost us a lot less.  Things looking good for our young lads too, refreshing to see the quality just hope some of them make the breakthrough. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 22, 2008, 12:52:56 AM
The two Villa front men appeared to cause Chelsea problems. However the Chelsea back line looked very exposed. I think the fella Mellis that played centre half was normally a midfielder.

I wouldn't exactly say Chelsea have shunned their youth dept over the years. The problem I believe lies in locality. Chelsea's proximity to central London, and the affluent King's road, means that it has less of the council estates, and the boy's clubs that exists in more middle-lower class towns and cities. With the FA ruling that you can't take a player into your youth side that resides more than 20 mile away adding to the restriction. A lot of the 'local' Chelsea fan base lives in suburban West London and the West country. As such a lot of the younger London hopefuls would've went to Arsenal, Spurs etc. and in Beckham's case Manchester Utd as they had the 'draw'.

However the balance is shifting, and with Chelsea's newly opened facilities at Cobham, and the massive increase in their profile, they are now deemed a major attraction for the young lad (And his family) mulling over his future. In addition the increased revenue allows to open up bigger scouting networks.

I have always believed that part of the masterplan was to spend vast amounts on players (Complete), raise the profile of the club (Complete), become an attractive option for the world's finest young players (Ongoing), and therefore reduce the amount of spending required (TBD). This is where these ambitious self sufficency targets come from.

Or maybe I'm chatting s**t.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 23, 2008, 06:30:37 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 20, 2008, 12:04:45 AM
Honestly didn't know. Just know it's ending on Sunday.....

Right up there with the Tony hotel quote!  ;D

Thanks O'Neill...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: ONeill on March 23, 2008, 06:50:21 PM
Erm, no it's not.

Well done Chelsea - good game - Chelsea defensively better.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on March 23, 2008, 07:08:36 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 19, 2008, 11:23:35 PM
Mr Grant has written his own obitury.

Norf, has this man come back from the dead??  Great result for Chelsea, Didier back to his best, but they really should try and work him and Anelka into a strike partnership as they would be formidable.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on March 23, 2008, 07:18:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 23, 2008, 07:16:38 PM
Is it just me or was that game very very friendly? Hugs and handshakes and big dopey smiles throughout the match between both teams.

Unlike the hackers at Manchester United, ie Rio and Vidic   ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 23, 2008, 10:59:56 PM
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on March 23, 2008, 07:08:36 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 19, 2008, 11:23:35 PM
Mr Grant has written his own obitury.

Norf, has this man come back from the dead??  Great result for Chelsea, Didier back to his best, but they really should try and work him and Anelka into a strike partnership as they would be formidable.

A long way to go DD12. He got abuse today for his subs, but from my bar stool I stated that my subs would've been Essien off for Belletti, and Maka or Ballack for Anelka. To be fair it was more or less what he did, and it worked.
Belletti pushed on with a bit more maturity than Essien was able to do from his position, and Anelka, although not heavilly involved, gave the Arsenal back four something else to worry about allowing Drogba to excel.

I definately think that a 4-4-2 is the way forward. The midfield 4 could be your flat Kalou-Maka or Mikel- Lampard or Ballack- Joe Cole or a diamond of Maka/Mikel holding, Lampard and Ballack central with Joe Cole at the tip. The diamond would require Ashley Cole and Belletti to push forward as they are capable of.

The game itself was an excellent one. Very intriguing the whole way through, and I thought we (Can I say we on this board?) were well worth our points. As my colleague O'Neill states we were very good defensivelly, with JT and my man of the match Carvalho excellent, & Ashley Cole giving a much more mature performance.

The big lad up front, was awful for the first 20-25 minutes, but sprung into life after getting treatment for a hamstring problem. It may be that the magic spray and the treatment got him through the game, so hopefully there is no hangover from this.

Thought the game was played in a hard, but fair spirirt. My only gripe is the innocuous bookings for Balalck and Cole, coupled with Eboue fouling 3 or 4 times without a yellow. Also thought Kalou had a shout for a first half penalty.

In my heart we are well in the league, but my head tells me we need to win every game, and hope the Goons take the points from Old Trafford, so a very long shot. Ferguson with one hand on the trophy.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 28, 2008, 05:29:31 PM
Hmmm....

People complain of Chelsea fans being paranoid, but I see for the first time that I can ever recall the premier league have fixed a game for a Thursday night Everton v Chelsea. The reason they have brought it forward from the Saturday is due to SKY!

So what?

It means that Chelsea now face Wigan (H) which was also moved for SKY on the Monday, and then Everton (A) on the Thursday. Why do games need to be sqquuuueeeezzed in?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 30, 2008, 02:03:51 PM
1-0 Carvalho.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 03, 2008, 05:23:06 PM
A decent gesture by Chelsea http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1280958,00.html (http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1280958,00.html) for a change.

I'll comment re last night's debacle later.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Minder on April 03, 2008, 05:26:37 PM
Nice public relations gesture,nothing more
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: AZOffaly on April 03, 2008, 05:43:02 PM
Hey, if they're doing the right thing, they're doing the right thing. PR or not, it's a good idea and it emphasises their opposition to the switch. i just hope they beat the sh1te out of Everton :D

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 03, 2008, 06:18:37 PM
Last night was another Avram debacle, not aided by certain players.

It all started so well! Malouda, a surprise in the starting side, had his best 45 minutes to date for us, and Chelsea's first was well deserved. After that it was just a case of get a second and put it to bed...and they tried...and tried. Essien hit the bar, Ballack had a drive, as did Drogba. Several breaks floundered, but Chelsea were sooooo comfortable.

Then the players went to sleep! Fenerbache, with Richards excelling, bounced back and stunned Chelsea with a pair of strikes.

What should have been a cruise, will now turn into a nervy night at the Bridge next week. Still confidernt we'll advance, but Monaco and Barnsley cross my mind.

Drogba...
....the big lad was a disgrace last night. Several times in both halfs Chelsea broke with men over, and as soon as he picked up posession he tried an impossible shot. He was having pot shots with every free kick he had, and was playing so much as an individual it was untrue. If, as the rumours are true, he is playing for a move then last night confirmed it. Great as he is at times, he can also be greatly frustrating.

The only other point of note from last night was the ref. Top class. Hardly made a wrong decision, and waas in no way intimidated by the Turkish crowd. When a player went down, he was straight over telling them to get up and get on with it, and did not go looking for his cards at the drop of a hat. Best refereeing performance I have seen in a while.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: AZOffaly on April 03, 2008, 06:27:13 PM
Was there any cards given out in Turkey Norf? there was none at the Emirates, and it's the first time I think I've ever watched a Champions League game without one.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 03, 2008, 07:31:35 PM
None at all AZ

The ref was Claus Bo Larsen...a Dane.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 03, 2008, 08:52:47 PM
Youth cup final first leg: Chelsea 1 (Kakuta) Man City 1 (Sturridge).

In injury time at present.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 04, 2008, 08:43:56 PM
Chelsea TV is usually propoganda city, with only positive 'I love Grant', 'Peter Kenyon's a genius' and 'up the brand' type callers.

Tonight....it was all Anti Grant.

His days are numbered....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2008, 10:20:22 PM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/european_football/article3702029.ece (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/european_football/article3702029.ece)

Ouch...Big loss is Mr Cech, who ash been really unlucky these last two seasons. Cudicini is a good number 2, but doesn't give the defence the aura and confidence big Petr does.



Avram Grant's preparations for the biggest match of his career have been interrupted by an horrific facial injury to Petr Cech that has brought a premature end to the Czech Republic goalkeeper's season.

Cech had plastic surgery that involved 50 stitches at the St John and St Elizabeth Hospital in North London on Sunday after having his face ripped apart during a freak collision in training with Tal Ben-Haim.

Cech was on course to return after five weeks out with an ankle injury in the Champions League quarter-final, second leg at home to Fenerbahçe this evening, but will miss the rest of the season and could be out for as long as six months. Ben-Haim, the Israel defender, got one of his studs caught in Cech's bottom lip, causing a 1-inch rip down to the bottom of his chin.

The wound required 30 stitches at its deepest point and 20 more to the rest of Cech's face.

The goalkeeper's absence will be keenly felt by Grant, who must rely on Carlo Cudicini for a match in which, already 2-1 down, the concession of an away goal could prove costly, as well as representing a huge setback to Cech. The 25-year-old has endured a torrid time with injuries, missing 22 matches this season with a series of groin, hip and ankle problems, though such niggles pale in comparison to the fractured skull he suffered in a Barclays Premier League match against Reading 18 months ago that has left him wearing a protective helmet in matches and training.

Chelsea suffered another setback last night, with Michael Essien limping out of training with a back injury that makes him a doubt. Paulo Ferreira is on standby to replace the Ghanaian at right back.

"I don't feel good about it and every player injured does not make me happy," Grant said. "Cech was more than a bit unlucky this year already and he was great in training."

The first-team coach must hope that such ill-fortune is not a sign of things to come before a match that neatly encapsulates the rollercoaster nature of life at Stamford Bridge.

Chelsea remain in contention for a Premier League and Champions League double, but a disappointing performance this evening could deliver an unwanted hat-trick of shock cup exits. After defeats by Tottenham Hotspur in the Carling Cup and Barnsley in the FA Cup, Grant would need to win the league to keep his job if Chelsea suffer elimination to Fenerbahçe, with Michael Ballack conceding that Chelsea would use the painful memories of those setbacks to spur them on.

"We went out of two competitions because we didn't play when it mattered," the Germany midfield player said. "We went to a final and shouldn't have lost it. It was our fault, it wasn't that Tottenham played fantastic football. The same against Barnsley, it was our fault, and against Fenerbahçe it was our fault. When we play our best football we can win every competition, but we didn't do this in the FA Cup and the Carling Cup and we went out. It's our motivation for [the Fenerbahçe match]."

Grant has reminded his players in no uncertain terms that they let themselves down by failing to kill off the tie after taking a first-half lead in Istanbul. Didier Drogba has been the main target of Grant's ire, with the Israeli accusing the Ivory Coast striker of playing for himself rather than the team, though Drogba will be given a final chance to make amends.

"We have thought a lot about last Wednesday's game, but tomorrow it will be different," Grant said. "We had a good performance with a bad result and there are things we can do better. We lost concentration, but sometimes this happens in football. It's not the first time it has happened to us this season and we must learn from our mistakes.

"We need to dominate the game[], which will not be easy and then hopefully take control from there."

Fenerbahçe have travelled with hope allied to expectation, with Colin Kazim-Richards, the former Sheffield United forward, summing up their nothing-to-lose mentality. Roberto Carlos remains doubtful despite returning to training after a shin injury, though Gönül Gökhan will return from suspension.

"Zico [the Fenerbahçe coach] says to us that we've got to go out and score goals," Kazim-Richards said. "It doesn't matter about the name that's on the back of the shirts, it's the way we play on the day."

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 08, 2008, 07:18:49 PM
                            Cudicini

Essien             JT                Carvalho       Ashley Cole


                             Maka

                   Ballack          Lampard

Joe Cole                                                    Kalou

                             Drogba
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Aaron Boone on April 08, 2008, 07:22:41 PM
On paper, they are much much better quality than Fenerbahce.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 10, 2008, 02:28:42 AM
A strange, strange night at the Bridge. Chelsea leaped from the blocks and after the early goal, I hoped we would kick on and cruise 2 or 3 nil. However as we have a tendancy to do, we retreated badly into our shell, and invited a limited Fenerbache side on us.
The game plan wasn't helped by the injury to Cudicini (Chelsea's luck with keepers is shocking), which saw a 'protect Hilario' mind set adopted.

The second half resulted in the curious scenario of a team heading towards the CL semi finals, second in the league and leading one nil, getting jeered by their own fans. Well at least someone was getting jeered, probably the hapless Grant!
Something's not right down at SW6 and on full time, JT ran straight for the tunnel tossing his armband aside. One theory is that he was peeved at the fan's reaction during the game. That fecking Drogba hoor as well..... >:( His ego is beginnin to out grow himself. Last night again he broke and should've squared to Lampard for a tap in but blazed selfishley wide. On another occasion him and Ballack stood over a free kick, with both debating who to take it. The big African fecker took it, and ballsed it up! The rumour is that his popularity is tumbling fast...

For me it's not always about playing fancy football, it's about playing with assurance, and being in control. We almost always had that under Mourinho, we don't now. Some of the football this season has looked sharp - but only for about 10-20 minutes at a time. A lot of the time we appear to be rudderless. And that's what's getting the fans pissed. The results have been as good as we could have expected, or better. The quality of the football has certainly not improved, but probably isn't much worse than last season. But the control, the bossing the game? That's gone. And that's a bad thing. It scares me for starters!

However...it's a 4th semi final in 5 years, but with a few different scenarios, this time it's the home leg second, and Liverpool for the first time go into the contest as favourites. In addition the old Scouser champion's league luck is starting to gather pace already....





Avram's dilema


Grant faces Israeli criticism over match on memorial day

Avram Grant's satisfaction at steering Chelsea to the semi-finals of the Champions League was tempered yesterday by the realisation that the fixture calendar has placed him in an invidious position.


The second-leg tie against Liverpool, which is to be played at Stamford Bridge on 30 April, clashes with the eve of Yom Hashoah, Israel's Holocaust memorial day. Ordinarily Grant, the son of a Holocaust survivor, and grandson of Holocaust victims, would expect to observe the day which begins at sundown the night before.

Chelsea said yesterday they were aware of the situation, that it was a personal issue for Grant, and they would support him whatever decision he made. Early indications are that he will be in the technical area, as usual.

Such a choice is sure to bring forth condemnation in Israel where all forms of public entertainment are banned. Chelsea's match will not be televised for this reason. However, the situation is not as clear-cut outside Israel.

When Yom Hashoah falls on a Friday, as it does this year, observance within Israel is brought forward a day (to Thursday). But in the Jewish Diaspora observance generally remains on the Friday. Grant is understood to have reasoned that since he is outside Israel he can work. Moreover, Yom Hashoah, while an important day in the Jewish year, is not as significant as Yom Kippur when Israel effectively closes; at Yom Hashoah shops remain open and many people work.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 14, 2008, 11:01:40 PM
Sometimes things are inevitable...

The fat lady is currently having an encore I believe.

The excuses first....SKY's decision to 'force' Chelsea to play 2 games in such a short space had an effect tonight, as Avram rested Drogba, Ashley and Joe Cole, and Carvalho. Lampard's late withdrawal at 19:30 (Family death I believe?) did not help, but I firmly believe in picking your best side, and winning the game, and resting later if possible.

However....we should not be dreaming of excuses against Wigan.

The first half tonight was pure s**t. Chelsea showed no spark, nor imagination and although dominant in posession never really threatened Kirkland's goal. Anytime the ball came into the box Anelka was trodding over the half way line, rendering us toothless!!

Joe Cole came on for the inept Malouda, and changed the game. The wee man could've scored 15 seconds after coming on, and completely changed the game. Essien's drive put Chelsea ahead, and then....and then....and then....we waited for the second...and waited...and waited.
The lesson that we got away with against Middlesboro, and got punished for against Villa and Spurs came back with a bite tonight. Instead of killing the game off we invited Wigan back at us. Admitedly Kirkland made two wonder saves, and Terry hit the bar, but you MUST be more clinical at this stage.

The inevitable happened and Wigan introduced Sibierski, and his physical presence alongside Heskey rattled Chelsea a wee bit. The ball to the back post was top notch, and Heskey did what Heskey does.

I don't like conceeding until mathamatically possible, but I'd put the reserves out on Thursday.


Game over.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 14, 2008, 11:17:11 PM
QuoteThe excuses first....SKY's decision to 'force' Chelsea to play 2 games in such a short space had an effect tonight, as Avram rested Drogba, Ashley and Joe Cole, and Carvalho.

Teams play Saturday - Tuesday all the time. No difference to what Chelsea had to do.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: stevo-08 on April 15, 2008, 08:42:52 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 14, 2008, 11:17:11 PM
QuoteThe excuses first....SKY's decision to 'force' Chelsea to play 2 games in such a short space had an effect tonight, as Avram rested Drogba, Ashley and Joe Cole, and Carvalho.

Teams play Saturday - Tuesday all the time. No difference to what Chelsea had to do.

In fairness, I think Norf was talking about the away trip to Everton on thursday.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 15, 2008, 01:36:17 PM
Quote from: stevo-08 on April 15, 2008, 08:42:52 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 14, 2008, 11:17:11 PM
QuoteThe excuses first....SKY's decision to 'force' Chelsea to play 2 games in such a short space had an effect tonight, as Avram rested Drogba, Ashley and Joe Cole, and Carvalho.

Teams play Saturday - Tuesday all the time. No difference to what Chelsea had to do.

In fairness, I think Norf was talking about the away trip to Everton on thursday.


Yip that's it. It was fairly unprecedanted that a team had there game brought forward from a Saturday to a Thursday for no real reason.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 15, 2008, 10:58:14 PM
QuoteYip that's it. It was fairly unprecedanted that a team had there game brought forward from a Saturday to a Thursday for no real reason.

That's what i was comparing it to though. Monday to Thursday gives a 2 day break, same as Saturday to Tuesday. Fair enough, it is unprecedented.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 17, 2008, 07:19:38 PM
Cech

Fererria
JT
Carvalho
Ashley Cole

Obi Mikel
Essien
SWP

Cole
Anelka
Kalou
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Square Ball on April 17, 2008, 07:25:18 PM
a very attack minded line up Norf, is this a case of bolting tha door and all that?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 17, 2008, 07:33:06 PM
Attacking.......?

One up front! We should be 4-4-2 and be done with it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Square Ball on April 17, 2008, 07:37:04 PM
thought the way you lined them out it was three up front, not in Grants nature that really is it?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Main Street on April 17, 2008, 07:42:34 PM
I think the thread title is a (self) satire on their achievements this season.

Man City won I think
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 17, 2008, 07:49:00 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 17, 2008, 07:42:34 PM
I think the thread title is a (self) satire on their achievements this season.

Man City won I think

It's a wee bit of a satire alright. Hoping to change it soon  :D

City won the youf final 3-1 (4-2 on agg). Unfortuantely due to work I never seen it, but I believe Chelsea had 2 or 3 good penalty shouts turned down.

Kakuta is the great white hope from this squad.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 17, 2008, 10:00:42 PM
Phew...1-0 FT Essien

Played well first half. Moved it well, but sloppy in the final 3rd. I'll say it again...Anelka CANNOT play the lone role.

Second half we AGAIN retreated into our shell, and Carvalho was superb, as was Ferreria and JT to a lesser degree.

The downside is that Liverpool can play the reserves now on Saturday.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: ONeill on April 17, 2008, 10:04:04 PM
Lost the will to live watching that.

Good to see Chelsea keeping the pressure on though. 4 points from those two games not a disaster.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 17, 2008, 10:51:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 17, 2008, 10:04:04 PM
Lost the will to live watching that.

Good to see Chelsea keeping the pressure on though. 4 points from those two games not a disaster.

You mustn't have seen the Wigan game then! The first tonight I thought we played some decent stuff. Second half not so much.

Think 4 points is not enough. Essentially we need Sparky to recall his Chelsea days, and not his Manc days this weekend...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Over the Bar on April 17, 2008, 11:36:06 PM
Chelsea winnin at Everton is a great result.  Now United can clinch the title at the bridge.  Happy days!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Hound on April 18, 2008, 07:03:51 AM
I wonder does Avram feel a bit thick having realised he was playing his best player at right back for most of the season...

A pity for Liverpool he's discovered it prior to the CL semis!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: AZOffaly on April 18, 2008, 09:24:43 AM
Quote from: Hound on April 18, 2008, 07:03:51 AM
I wonder does Avram feel a bit thick having realised he was playing his best player at right back for most of the season...

A pity for Liverpool he's discovered it prior to the CL semis!

It's alright. When 'Lamps' comes back, he will be reinstated as the midfield general he is.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Billys Boots on April 18, 2008, 09:29:51 AM
QuoteCity won the youf final 3-1 (4-2 on agg). Unfortuantely due to work I never seen it, but I believe Chelsea had 2 or 3 good penalty shouts turned down.

I watched the game - City were the better footballing side, Chelsea was a collection of athletes that looked like they'd never met each other before.  Chelsea went one up after 5 mins, City came back into it and scored two fine goals before half time.  Chelsea's athleticism showed in the second half and they dominated for long periods in midfield without really making any chances (I didn't see any realistic penalty shouts either) - City scored a late breakaway goal.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: nrico2006 on April 18, 2008, 09:53:59 AM
QuoteThink 4 points is not enough. Essentially we need Sparky to recall his Chelsea days, and not his Manc days this weekend...

I don't think there would be any doubt where his loyalties would lay between the 2 clubs, but again I don't think this will come into it.  United haven't had it all their own way against Blackburn recently, and I wouldn't want to have to get a result from West Ham considering our recent form against them.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 18, 2008, 10:04:36 AM
Quote from: Hound on April 18, 2008, 07:03:51 AM
I wonder does Avram feel a bit thick having realised he was playing his best player at right back for most of the season...

A pity for Liverpool he's discovered it prior to the CL semis!


??? Who?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: nrico2006 on April 18, 2008, 10:05:45 AM
I assume he means Essien.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 18, 2008, 02:00:51 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 18, 2008, 10:05:45 AM
I assume he means Essien.

Do you think? Essien has played 6 or 7 times at RB this season, and has been- as recognised by most Chelsea fans- univerally rubbish most of the season. Granted he has been our better player the past 2 or 3 games, so hopefully he is returning to form.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 19, 2008, 08:23:28 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on April 17, 2008, 11:36:06 PM
Chelsea winnin at Everton is a great result.  Now United can clinch the title at the bridge.  Happy days!!

Ah well.....at least we have delayed the inevitable.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 21, 2008, 06:53:42 PM
Sickly, and nervous about tomorrow night. Heading into the game as second favourites for a change, with Lpool having the annual luxury of having their boys rested and ready, and their fantastic Euro pedigree to boot.

Chelsea with doubts over Drogba and Ballack, and Essien suspended.

Probable
Cech

Fererria
JT
Carvalho
Cole

Makalele
Ballack/Obi Mikel
Lampard

Joe Cole
Drogba/ Anelka
Kalou.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 21, 2008, 07:49:56 PM
FAO Mancs, Scousers, Chelsea and Barcé fans...

http://www.uefa.com/printoutfiles/competitions/ucl/2008/e/e_11_md.pdf (http://www.uefa.com/printoutfiles/competitions/ucl/2008/e/e_11_md.pdf)

More stats that you can shake a stick with!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 22, 2008, 05:19:33 PM
Super Sarsfields thinks I am keeping my head down. Nope...I'm just minding my own business over here on my own wee thread. So leave me alone until Wednesday next week when it's all over.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 24, 2008, 04:02:30 PM
RIP Mrs Lampard...

http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1297182,00.html (http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1297182,00.html)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 25, 2008, 04:13:28 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 25, 2008, 04:40:09 PM
Ta Gabriel.

My concern is that they had not left enough room between the crest and the sponsor for...

Champions league winners 2008
:P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 25, 2008, 05:15:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 25, 2008, 04:40:09 PM
Ta Gabriel.

My concern is that they had not left enough room between the crest and the sponsor for...

Champions league winners 2008
:P

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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 28, 2008, 10:19:55 AM
Well done Chelsea!

At long last I get a chance to get on here for a few minutes.

Chelsea's best performance of the season IMHO. I thought in the first half we shredded United, and put for a lack of composure in the final third could've had 1 or 2 more goals. Essien at long last shows signs of returning to his best, with Ashley Cole also showing why he was once rated the best left-back in the world.

In the second half United came into it more, but did not really trouble Cech until the last 5 minutes. I thought Chelsea defended too deep at that point, and thankfully Cole and Sheva (!!!) showed good defensive awareness.

For what it's worth I think United's two games are much easier than Chelsea's at this point. Last season United rolled over for WHU, so you can guess what'll happen this year, and Wigan will likely be safe come the last day. So that's one aspect of this weekend to keep an eye on.
I am hoping for a Wigan defeat to keep them in there. However I still think United will win it.

Great to see the resolve Chelsea have though. This year, we have lost our greatest ever manager, Carvalho, Cech, Essien, Drogba (Embarassing on Sat), Terry, and Lampard have missed much of the season. However we will take Fergie's 'greatest ever side' to a final day.

Did anyone note JT restraining Ferdinand on Saturday moring from losing the plot? And Ferdinand is to be named England captain on the basis of his 'good behaviour'?

Looking forward to Wednesday now...and to go all Fearon on you. I'll be in the shed lower!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 29, 2008, 01:17:02 PM
http://www.chelseapies.tv/2008/04/avram_grant_and_rafa_benitez_p.html (http://www.chelseapies.tv/2008/04/avram_grant_and_rafa_benitez_p.html)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: magpie seanie on April 30, 2008, 10:40:23 PM
Well done Chelsea and huge creidt to Lampard in particular. Great performance and character from him in the circumstances. Best 2 teams in the final.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: AZOffaly on May 01, 2008, 09:07:07 AM
Couldn't disagree Seanie. The best two teams are in the final, although Liverpool wouldn't have been flattered to be there either. However, that's not the reason I came on here.

Well done to Chelsea, they deserved it last night, and fair play to Frank Lampard for his bottle. Drogba was fantastic as well, which shows what he can do when he uses his strength and pace and concentrates on playing the games, rather than playing the ref.

Well done again, and while I won't say I'd be supporting ye in the final, (or United), ye have earned yer place in the final.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 02, 2008, 12:05:51 AM
Thanks for the posts gents.

I can't really say too much in reply, as I am exhausted. Not long back and up at 5 again for work. I was s**ting myself for Lampard's penalty, so I don't know how he felt.

It took everyone around us about 1 minute to realise Essien hadn't scored! Only when I turned to...commiserate ahem...with the Scousers and seen them celebrate that it clicked!

Just had a feeling that Benitez's personal criticism of Drogba would backfire..

....a stressful night to come now on the 21st!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 05, 2008, 10:51:15 PM
Down to the last game then!

I never predicted that a way back in the Autumn when TSO packed his bags and returned home. Still not convinced about Grant, but whatever he is doing- or as I crucially believe not doing- is working. The players all seem unified, and coming to the boil at the business end of the season. However I still can't see Wigan taking anythnig from the Mancs. I'd say they are ordering th factor 10 as I type!

Malouda looks like he might just be starting to show what he was bought for. I thought his cameo on Wednesday was excellent, and I believe he did alright today too. A dark horse for the CL final perhaps?

So it's over to Heskey, Kirkland, and Melchiot....do your job chaps!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: new devil on May 06, 2008, 03:15:00 AM
Yea ballack and drogba looked very united fighting over a free kick against us last Saturday  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2008, 09:24:53 AM
Quote from: new devil on May 06, 2008, 03:15:00 AM
Yea ballack and drogba looked very united fighting over a free kick against us last Saturday  ::)

They looked brave and united, as they celebrated beating Fergie's 'greatest ever side' 2-1.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Uladh on May 06, 2008, 03:07:07 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2008, 09:24:53 AM
They looked brave and united, as they celebrated beating Fergie's 'greatest ever side' 2-1.

who called them that?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: full back on May 06, 2008, 03:08:50 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2008, 09:24:53 AM
Quote from: new devil on May 06, 2008, 03:15:00 AM
Yea ballack and drogba looked very united fighting over a free kick against us last Saturday  ::)

They looked brave and united, as they celebrated beating Fergie's 'greatest ever side' 2-1.

Greatest ever side....................  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: new devil on May 06, 2008, 05:13:30 PM
How does "one of his best SQUADS!!!!!' turn into his greatest side ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2008, 12:23:40 AM
Someone was asking waaay back re Chelsea's football icon winner from the first year.

Just heard today that Carl Magnay has been handed a one year extension to his contract at the Bridge.

Also Joe Cole has won Chelsea's POTY award tonight. Great for Joe, but 90% of fans on the chat pages voted for Carvalho, so perhaps Mugabe was counting the votes!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: AFS on May 09, 2008, 03:05:26 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2008, 12:23:40 AM
Someone was asking waaay back re Chelsea's football icon winner from the first year.

Just heard today that Carl Magnay has been handed a one year extension to his contract at the Bridge.

Also Joe Cole has won Chelsea's POTY award tonight. Great for Joe, but 90% of fans on the chat pages voted for Carvalho, so perhaps Mugabe was counting the votes!

How is Chelsea's POTY decided? Is it an idiot player's vote because that is the only way Carvalho could have seriously been topped.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2008, 03:36:53 AM
All season ticket holders, and members vote on it. That's why no-one can understand it.

A straw poll, if you like, on the chat forums has Carvalho at about 70% of the vote.

For the record Carvalho got players player of the year.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 11, 2008, 03:25:10 PM
John Terry off with shoulder injury :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: redcard on May 11, 2008, 03:56:32 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on May 11, 2008, 03:25:10 PM
John Terry off with shoulder injury :o

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44645000/jpg/_44645441_terry_getty.jpg)

His nose doesnt look good either
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Square Ball on May 11, 2008, 04:04:14 PM
from the BBC

1559: And another rumour... the medical team at Stamford Bridge reckon John Terry may have broken his arm, which is heartbreaking news for the Chelsea skipper with the Champions League final coming up.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Square Ball on May 11, 2008, 04:18:36 PM
Chelsea skipper John Terry is apparently back at Stamford Bridge following his flying visit to hospital for treatment on his suspected broken arm  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: ExiledGael on May 11, 2008, 06:50:54 PM
Chelsea also confirmed after the match that Drogba had jarred his knee late in the game. Avram quote - "We've got ten days now but it doesn't look good". Terry spoke two and he expects to be back to normal in a few days unbelievably. Avram said "That's his nature but we'll have to see what the doctors say".
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 12, 2008, 10:51:26 AM
That's that then for the PL anyhow. Yesterday was a micrcosm of the whole season as far as I am concerned.

Once again totally dominated the game, but couldn't get a second goal to kill the game off. It looked like the players knew United had the second and switched off for the last 5-10 minutes.

The big issue from yesterday was the injuries to Terry and Drogba. Need the two of them ready for Russia, especially with Carvalho struggling.

Anyhow....preperation for next season has begun. Signing number one just announced...
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1310622,00.html (http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1310622,00.html)

Strange really. With Belletti just arrived, Ivanovic signed and Fererria with a 5 year contract a few months back that's effectivelly 4 right backs!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Minder on May 12, 2008, 10:58:14 AM
Boswinga would be an upgrade on Belletti and Ferreira though Norf.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 12, 2008, 11:07:36 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 12, 2008, 10:58:14 AM
Boswinga would be an upgrade on Belletti and Ferreira though Norf.

Maybe he would, as I have seen nothing of him. However it's obvious someone needs to go, but who?

Ferreria...unlikely as he was given a new 5 year contract in January.
Ivanovic....just signed for £10 so unlikely.
Belletti....not that long at the club either. However he has been exposed as been very weak defensivelly, so he may be the one to go.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Minder on May 12, 2008, 11:26:18 AM
According to this they have beaten United to his signature, His agent owns his "economic rights".........Sound familiar?


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article3915944.ece
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: nrico2006 on May 12, 2008, 11:31:56 AM
Grant was gracious in defeat (well losing the league) as was most Chelsea players which was good to see, especially after Grants BS chat during the week about all the pressure being on United and also crying about the ineffectiveness of goal difference in comparison to a play-off.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 12, 2008, 06:03:47 PM
Got this today, and have to agree 100%. The crux of our problem.


This is what the final table would have looked like if all the games had
finished after 87 minutes. It's a clear demonstration that a champions'
mentality leads you to win points in the last two minutes of games, not to
drop them. That mentality, which is the biggest gift that Mourinho gave the
team, has been eroded. That's why, despite his achievements this season, so
many of us still harbour doubts about Grant:


Chelsea - 93 pts
Man Utd - 85 pts
Arsenal - 79 pts
Liverpool - 71 pts


Details as follows:


Man Utd


Arsenal A: 2-2 - Gallas 90 - 2 points dropped
Everton H: 2-1 - Ronaldo 88 - 2 points gained
Tottenham A: 1-1 Tevez 90 - 1 point gained
Blackburn A: 1-1 Tevez 88 - 1 point gained


Aggregate: 2 points gained


Chelsea


Everton H: 1-1 Cahill 90 - 2 points droppped
Villa H: 4-4 Ballack 88 Barry 90 - 0 points gained or dropped
Tottenham A: 4-4 Keane 88 - 2 points droppped
Wigan H: 1-1 Heskey 90 - 2 points droppped
Bolton H: 1-1 Taylor 90 - 2 points droppped


Aggregate: 8 points dropped*


Arsenal:


Fulham H: 2-1 Hleb 90 - 2 points gained
Man Utd H:  2-2 - Gallas 90 - 1 point gained
Birmingham A: 2-2 McFadden 90 - 2 points dropped
Villa H: 1-1 Bendtner 90 - 1 point gained
Bolton A: 2-3 o.g 90 - 2 points gained


Aggregate: 4 points gained


Liverpool


Tottenham H: 2-2 Torres 90 - 1 point gained
Everton A: 1-2 Kuyt 90 - 2 points gained
Derby A: 1-2 Gerrard 90 - 2 points gained
Villa H: 2-2 Crouch 88 - 1 point gained
West Ham A: 1- 0 Noble 90 - 1 point dropped


Aggregate: 5 points gained
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 24, 2008, 06:08:45 PM
Grant Out

http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1318727,00.html
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: lurganblue on May 24, 2008, 06:34:13 PM
that was quick. no hanging around at all.
who next then? i see they are talking to Frank at Barca but would Sven be an outside bet?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: slow corner back on May 24, 2008, 06:42:34 PM
I work with a chelsea fan who loathes Sven for some reason best known to himself, for this reason I would love to see Sven get the job.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Square Ball on May 24, 2008, 07:00:20 PM
not really surprised that they let him go, second in the league and beaten champions league finalists, not bad for a season. I think its a bit short sighted of them, what does this say to the next manager, win something in the first year or your out on your ear?

its easy to buy quality players  but can they gel into a team? thats the hard bit, way too many egos and it all goes downhill.

Sven I think, or will the special one come back?  8)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Over the Bar on May 24, 2008, 08:23:06 PM
Looks like the anti-semitic campaign has won the day.  Shame on Kenyon & Abramovic!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Square Ball on May 24, 2008, 08:44:56 PM
who much did Kenyon get this year?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Minder on May 25, 2008, 09:52:20 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on May 24, 2008, 08:23:06 PM
Looks like the anti-semitic campaign has won the day.  Shame on Kenyon & Abramovic!

Dont talk shite, did anyone see Grant as a long term option for Chelsea? The day he was unveiled as Chelsea manager it was never going to be for the length of his contract......
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Shrewdness on May 29, 2008, 12:15:10 PM
Can't believe you Chelsea fans.

As a United fan, i was curious to see what ye were saying about Chelsea's search for a new manager, and transfer rumours surrounding Lampard, Drogba and Carvalho.

What do i find :o......Nothing.

I actually had to retrieve this thread from the very bottom of page 4.

Sounds like Mourinho is hoping to land all 3 of the above to Inter.

Chelsea want to keep Lampard and Carvalho, but have apparently signalled throughout Europe that Drogba is available.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Minder on May 29, 2008, 12:21:25 PM
I think it has more to do with Norf Tyrone being the only Chelsea supporter on the board as far as i know, but im sure he is grateful to you for "retrieving" the thread.......
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 29, 2008, 04:07:31 PM
Ten Cate has been sacked, Chelski are fast becoming the most hateful fickle club in the world.

Rijkard out the window?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: ExiledGael on May 29, 2008, 04:08:11 PM
Henk Ten Cate just got the boot according to Sky Sports.
Chelsea must be out serious money on contract pay-offs.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 29, 2008, 04:10:17 PM
Too busy to post  anything meaningful to be honest lads.

Might give you an appraisal later if I have 10 mins.

I think the managerial appointment might be a shock outsider though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: AZOffaly on May 29, 2008, 04:10:50 PM
Gerard Houllier? :D
Title: Keanos rant was better
Post by: An Fear Rua on May 30, 2008, 12:03:43 PM
Meanwhile, Ivorian Striker Didier Drogba slammed the Chelsea Supporters on Wednesday night by calling them "glory hunters."

"They were many who said they supported Chelsea because Jose (Mourinho) won us trophies but they were really glory hunters" said Drogba.

"When I won them the FA Cup last season, they treated me very well like God but after the final they have betrayed me when I needed them most, in football sometimes you do things that you regret but you need your supporters behind you" said Drogba.

"If I was at Milan, they would have backed me but not at Chelsea, only a few hundreds are loyal fans who come to the ground every week, all others are not fans" claimed Drogba.

When asked whether he was moving on he replied "whether I stay or I go, my opinion of the fans will not change but Chelsea Football has given me a lot and I respect that" revealed Drogba.



Chelsea Supporters have had a real go at Didier Drogba for his "pathetic attitude" and Drogba has now hit back, the question emerges is this the end of the Drogba-Chelsea relationship?


http://www.bleacherreport.com/articles/25909-Chelsea-In-Decline-Drogba-Takes-a-Dig-at-Chelsea-Supporters- (http://www.bleacherreport.com/articles/25909-Chelsea-In-Decline-Drogba-Takes-a-Dig-at-Chelsea-Supporters-)

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 30, 2008, 12:12:22 PM
Just read that there on another site.

I don't know if perhaps he has been misinterpreted, but what a c**k. He could've/should've been a Chelsea legend, but his attitude over the last 12-18 months has been shocking. And then to say this....  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: An Fear Rua on May 30, 2008, 12:45:59 PM
"f**k Off Didier, We Dont Want You Anymore. We Made You Who You Are...

Having said that, Ima wait and see who he joins and then ima buy that shirt with Drogba on the back. Why? Because I Still love the man,.... "

spoken in the same breath by one "fan".
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 30, 2008, 04:56:16 PM
After the CL final, I couldn't have been arsed to talk footy for a few days bar defend some stuff on another thread that needed to be said, so only got a chance to appraise the managerial merry go round at this stage.

Firstly Avram had to go. Sacking Jose was a mistake, but giving Avram a long-term deal was a bigger one. When you get to 52 and haven't managed a top team in Europe surely that is an indicator that something isn't right. His appointment as whatever he was in Sept was fair enough. He stepped into the breech to hold the fort for a few weeks. At that stage Chelsea should've told him he was in charge until the season ends, and then the search for a long-term heir should've been clearer.

Results on the pitch were excellent to be fair. However it appears that Clarke was taking training, and it looks as if the motivational stuff was coming from JT, Lampard and Drogba. Which leaves Avram's influence as minimal. My lasting impression was at FT in the CC final, and him standing arms behind back, with JT giving the teamtalk!

Can you imagine Mourinho doing that? He'd be there notebook in hand, pointing, changing, inspiring!

The best thing about Avram's appointment is that it has taken the pressure off the new man. Mourinho's shoes were going to be difficult to fill, and one theory is that this is why Avram got the job. Makes too much sense in my opinion to have been an idea of the board!

This is now the most important appointment in Chelsea's history IMHO. Mourinho has catapulted Chelsea to the top table (With Roman's help), and the next man must be there 3-4 years minimum to establish Chelsea's right to be there, from a current and long term strategy.

However the manager must tick many boxes. A winner, charismatic, strong, and also a PR expert. Chelsea's off the field image rightly, or wrongly needs work. If the rumours leaking out are correct, this is one of the important facets of this appointment as far as the hierarchy are concerned.

The worry is that looking around, I don't see too many stand out names.

Mancini, and Ancellotti are very dour in my opinion. However I yield to greater authority as I follow little Italian/Spanish football. Ancellotti for one would be one I could be persuaded on.

Rijkard is a fella I've never warmed to. His record at Barce was pretty good, but with the players available it should be. Erikson has a bit more going for him, but his baggage with Engerland means that he starts off over par already.

Hughes is the one who I have a gut feeling for. He is fairly popular with the press, and the fans. His sides play football that suits their capabilities, and he has done well with whoever he has been with. Obviously he still has some things to prove, but I just have a felling. The fantasy dream team would be Hughes, Clarke and Zola!

The odds keep shifting for all the candidates, which probably means that for a change the board are keeping their cards close to their chest.

We await with interest....


On a sub plot re Kenyon some of the Chelsea independent supporter's group (I.E. they are anti establishment) believe that Kenyon voted against sacking Mourinho, and against hiring Grant. Perhaps he knows what he's at after all. However if I was him, and kept getting over ruled...I'd walk!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 06, 2008, 11:41:05 AM
http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=800002&sid=9182371&cKey=1212747075000 (http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=800002&sid=9182371&cKey=1212747075000)

Mutu to pay Chelsea 12million euros....
....one in the eye for player power!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 06, 2008, 11:59:42 AM
I notice that despite 7 or 8 pages of the character assasination of John Terry no one has posted re UEFA finding him innocent!

And also...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/columnists/john_gaunt/article647926.ece (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/columnists/john_gaunt/article647926.ece)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: gawa316 on June 11, 2008, 09:13:23 PM
Big Phil to be new chelski manager
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: lurganblue on June 11, 2008, 09:31:37 PM
bbc

QuoteScolari named as Chelsea manager  

Scolari's teams are known for playing entertaining football 
Chelsea have named Portugal boss Luiz Felipe Scolari as their new manager in succession to Avram Grant.

Scolari, who is currently in charge of the Portuguese side at Euro 2008, will take over at Stamford Bridge on 1 July.

"Felipe has great qualities. He is one of the world's top coaches with a record of success at country and club level," Chelsea said in a statement.

Carlo Ancelotti, Mark Hughes and Roberto Mancini had also been linked with the job.

Chelsea added: "He gets the best out of a talented squad of players and his ambitions and expectations match ours. He was the outstanding choice.

"Out of respect for his current role and to ensure minimum disruption to this work there will be no further comment from Chelsea nor from Felipe about his new role until his employment with us commences."

Scolari was believed to be in the running to become England manager in 2006 but was reportedly put off the job because of fears of media intrusion.

He won the World Cup with Brazil in 2002 before leading Portugal to the final of Euro 2004.

wouldnt take the england job but will do this one instead.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: ExiledGael on June 27, 2008, 09:46:21 PM
Frank Lampard quits Chelsea for Inter Milan
By Stefano BlinLast Updated: 8:02pm BST 27/06/2008


Chelsea midfielder Frank Lampard has signed a four-year contract with Italian champions Inter Milan, according to the highly-regarded France Football magazine.

The move will see the England international team up once again with former Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho, who replaced Roberto Mancini as Inter coach earlier this month. 

France Football said Lampard, who joined Chelsea from West Ham for £11 million in 2001 when Claudio Ranieri was manager, will earn an annual salary of around £5.8 million.

Lampard was one of Mourinho's 'untouchables' at Stamford Bridge and his goals from midfield contributed largely to the club's back-to-back Premier League title successes in the 2004-05 and 2005-06 seasons.

He has scored more than 20 goals in his past three seasons at Chelsea.

Lampard demonstrated great courage when he stepped up to take a penalty in last season's Champions League semi-final against Liverpool shortly after the death of his mother. He scored from the spot and Chelsea went on to reach the final for the first time in their history.

Lampard scored the equaliser for Chelsea in the final which ended 1-1 after extra time, but Manchester United went on to win the match on penalties.

Although Lampard was a hugely influential player at Chelsea, he sometimes failed to shine when partnered in midfield with German international Michael Ballack as both players like to get into the penalty box and score goals.

Specualtion will inevitably increase as to who will replace Lampard, with Portuguese midfielder Deco being touted as one of Luiz Felipe Scolari's main transfer targets.

Deco currently plays for Barcelona but is said to be surplus to requirements at the Nou Camp.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 30, 2008, 07:07:24 PM
Looks like Deco's signing will be confirmed by Chelsea tonight!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 30, 2008, 07:26:56 PM
£6 million quid apparently. Signing confirmed...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: bingobus on June 30, 2008, 07:47:49 PM
Thats not bad value for Chelsea standards. I'd say his contract is impressive.

Would suggest Lampard on the way then?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 30, 2008, 08:20:18 PM
It looks like Lampards gone....gutted if he is.

Deco's signing was £6.9 million, which is fairly decent VFM. Only a 2 year deal though I hear...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Finalists 2008
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on June 30, 2008, 08:27:26 PM
Quote from: bingobus on June 30, 2008, 07:47:49 PM
Thats not bad value for Chelsea standards. I'd say his contract is impressive.

Would suggest Lampard on the way then?

Around 8 million according to the BBC.

Not bad but he is 31 next month so Barcelona were unlikely to get much more for him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Rossie11 on July 01, 2008, 09:27:33 AM
A bargin for Chelsea. Liverpool will be forced to pay at least twice that for Barry.. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: slow corner back on July 01, 2008, 10:22:53 AM
Barry and Deco would be completely different types of players. Barry is a holding midfielder who can also play left back, Deco is very creative but wil do almost no defending, his tackiling is similar to Paul Scholes and I would rate them very similar players, very very good players whose best days may be behind them. If big Phil has signed him it gives a hint about more flair at the bridge possibly next season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Rossie11 on July 01, 2008, 11:52:20 AM
Would have Barry as a left sided player who can play the holding role if needed more so than other way round. Liverpool arent buying him for the holding role as Marsherano is there.
My point is that Deco has one of the best footballing brains in the world and at 30 CFC have got a bargin.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Uladh on July 01, 2008, 12:35:08 PM

I don't know what his wages will actually be but i'd imagine its that which would price most clubs out of pursuing him. he'll probably have to get over £100k a week after signing on fee
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: ExiledGael on July 06, 2008, 05:16:44 PM
Seen this on BBC, anyone hear what the actual offer was?

Chelsea make 'massive' Kaka offer

AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani says Chelsea have made an "astronomical" bid for Brazilian Kaka.
The Blues have long been linked with a move for 26-year-old World Player of the Year and their boss is now ex-Brazil coach Luiz Felipe Scolari.
Galliani told Italian newspaper La Stampa: "We received an astronomical offer from Chelsea for Kaka."
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: slow corner back on July 06, 2008, 05:25:43 PM
Intresting, at least it looks like big phil wants to play his way to trophies and not grind his way there like the not so " special one".
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 23, 2008, 02:10:54 PM
Chelsea v Guanngzhou Pharmaeuticals..... The Big One!

Cech
Bosingwa
JT
Carvalho
A Cole
Obi Mikel
Essien
Lamps
Deco
Anlka
Kalou

1-0 at HT with Kalou scoring
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 23, 2008, 02:41:55 PM
3-0

Super Frank and Di Santo!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 23, 2008, 04:43:35 PM
Ended up 4-0 Wright Philips

An injury to Boswinga the only blemish.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 03, 2008, 11:26:37 AM
Latest in the pre season friendly v AC Milan after 20 mins!

Chelsea 3 (Anelka 2, Lampard) Milan 0
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 03, 2008, 12:08:21 PM
Geez horrible mistake by Flamini and the Milan keeper for the third.

Never got time to post, that Chelsea draw with Lok Moscow 1-1 on Friday night. Played very well with Deco showing nice touches, amd only when we started to sub things around did Lokomotiv level up with a few mins left.

It went to penalties....and we lost....again. Bridge and Sheva the culprits.

Anyhow....there may be an argument for ending goal of the season now after this clinker from Essien!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1200w9Itb8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1200w9Itb8)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 03, 2008, 12:13:55 PM
That's 4!

Anleka with a happier day in Moscow for the trick!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 03, 2008, 12:19:39 PM
Easy, Easy, Easy

5-0!

Anelka again!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 03, 2008, 12:56:19 PM
5-0 at Full Time.

Excellent result, good performance, but Milan were dire.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 03, 2008, 04:48:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=eLBlugrana (http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=eLBlugrana)

Today's goals.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: gawa316 on August 03, 2008, 06:12:42 PM
What kind of team did Milan have out?

Thats some score
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 03, 2008, 09:52:40 PM
They were missing a few biguns (Olympics) and truth be told they played sh**e. Their keeper was shocking.

AC: Kalac, Bonera, Simic, Maldini, Favalli, Zambrotta, Flamini, Gatuso, Jankulovski, Pirlo, Ambrosini
Chelsea: Cech, Ivanovic, Alex, JT, A Cole, Mikel, Ballack, Lampard, W-Phillips, Malouda, Anelka
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 13, 2008, 02:08:24 PM
Rumours of a 5PM announcement at Chelsea today.


Kaka? Robinho? Lampard to sign?
The fave rumour is Ivanoivc to AC...but I have a feeling Frank WILL sign.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: An Fear Rua on August 13, 2008, 02:40:21 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 13, 2008, 02:08:24 PM
Rumours of a 5PM announcement at Chelsea today.


Kaka? Robinho? Lampard to sign?
The fave rumour is Ivanoivc to AC...but I have a feeling Frank WILL sign.

Press conf called......could be interesting
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: whyarerefssobad on August 13, 2008, 02:45:01 PM
think this is a big one maybe kaka
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: An Fear Rua on August 13, 2008, 03:01:28 PM
Ill guess at the following in this order


1) Fwat Fwank signing a contract to stay and pledging his love for himself(oh and chelsea too)
2) Robinhio signs.
3) Kaka - which will be a great 'coo', and Id be very interested in seeing him in the prem, can only add to it (and at Barnsley in the FA Cup 3rd round too!)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: ExiledGael on August 13, 2008, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: An Fear Rua on August 13, 2008, 03:01:28 PM
Ill guess at the following in this order


1) Fwat Fwank signing a contract to stay and pledging his love for himself(oh and chelsea too)
2) Robinhio signs.
3) Kaka - which will be a great 'coo', and Id be very interested in seeing him in the prem, can only add to it (and at Barnsley in the FA Cup 3rd round too!)


Door number one it is.
Five year bumper deal for a thirty year-old. He owes Mourinho and a few agents a few quid for engineering that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: full back on August 28, 2008, 02:33:16 PM
Another undisclosed amount like Shevcenko
Are Chelski trying to hide how much they are losing on players?


Manchester City have completed the signing of their former winger Shaun Wright-Phillips from Chelsea.

England's Wright-Phillips, 26, has signed a four-year contract at the City of Manchester Stadium having rejoined for an undisclosed fee.

He told the club's website: "Obviously I'm delighted to come back to City and I can't wait to get started again."

Manager Mark Hughes added: "I've always admired Shaun and he's been a target of mine since I came to the club."

606: DEBATE
Not really a top four player but definitely suitable for a club like Man City

Riise 'n' Shine
Wright-Phillips left City to join Chelsea for £21m in July 2005, but struggled to hold down a regular place in his three years in London.

He made only 43 Premier League starts, scoring four times, as he fell out of England reckoning too.

"To actually secure the deal and bring Shaun back home is a fantastic coup for us," said Hughes.

"I'm sure the supporters will be just as excited as we are to have him back at Manchester City."

In his previous spell at City, Wright-Phillips made 181 appearances and scored 31 times.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: An Fear Rua on September 09, 2008, 12:50:44 PM
essien has done his cruiciate- crocked for 6 months????
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 09, 2008, 02:07:01 PM
When I heard about his injiry over the weekend I had suspicion that it was worse than initial speculation.

Big blow that. It only leaves Obi Mikel as the defensive type midfielder out of the pack.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 13, 2008, 04:22:32 PM
Interesting day today at the COM stadium, as the richest club in the world face Chelsea!

Few interesting sub plots with Robinho, Sean Wright-Phillips, and the Clarke affair all being talked about. In addition United's defeat today gives Chelsea a chance to build a wee cushion ahead of the game next Sunday.

Probable Chelsea line up
Cech
Bosingwa
JT
Carvalho
A Cole

Obi Mikel
Lampard
Deco

Kalou
Anelka
Joe Cole

Numbers 1-8 almost guaranteed but 9-11 could be Malouda, Anleka and Drogba as well.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 13, 2008, 04:46:05 PM
Robinho starts!

Chelsea: Cech, Ashley Cole, JT, Carvalho, Bosingwa, Mikel, Lampard, Deco, Malouda, Joe Cole, Anelka.

Hope I eat my words but that's a lightweight, dont-wanna-know forward line with Malouda, and Anelka!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 14, 2008, 05:59:55 AM
Well it goes to show that money can't buy you success!

Superb Chelsea performance today with some excellent tackling, and crisp passing the order of the day. The key man (not the best player now) is Obi Mikel. I don't think it's a coincidence that he has played in our two best performances to date. Although not quite in the Makalele role, he can sit allowing Deco and Lampard to pass, weave and move. Essien seemed to be the prefered for that role, but I feel he is too energetic and attack minded and would have a tendancy to burst forward too much.

Some find individual performances today, Carvalho, Lampard and MOTM for me Ashley Cole. Surprised Deco got the official MOTM- good but a few ahead of him.

And to the ref.. What a joker!
Sending off Terry- Wrong.
Anelka denied a clear spot kick.
Dunne brings Drogba down when last man, and he gives the free but does not even book him!

Hopefully he has the sense to look at the red card and change to a yellow. However he has given Chelsea a reem of rare red cards over the year so I'll not hold my breath.

A chance to really put the P on the red Mancs next Sunday!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 14, 2008, 05:15:00 PM
Big test of Scolari's squad coming up as the internationals provide injuries to Cech, Ballack, Ashley Cole to add to Deco, Alex Essien, Carvalho, Drogba, Terry and Joe Cole.

It means if they all fail to make it this Sat we have;

Cudicini
Bridge
Fererri
Ivanovic
Bosingwa

Mikel
Lampard
Bellettii (Holding role)

Kalou
Anelka
Malouda
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 14, 2008, 06:58:50 PM
shame yas cant go throw the cheque book at the situation!yas are hard done by ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 14, 2008, 11:20:24 PM
We have been a lot more conservative with the cheque book over the last year or two. Remember Chelsea have made a transfer profit this summer.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 16, 2008, 01:20:28 AM
Phew....Ballack plays for Germany tonight.
Nooo... Bosingwa gets injured!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: full back on October 16, 2008, 08:59:20 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 16, 2008, 01:20:28 AM
Nooo... Bosingwa gets injured!

How long is he out for?
Was going to stick him in my Dream Team :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 16, 2008, 05:24:31 PM
Quote from: full back on October 16, 2008, 08:59:20 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 16, 2008, 01:20:28 AM
Nooo... Bosingwa gets injured!

How long is he out for?
Was going to stick him in my Dream Team :-\

My beloved Chelsea is falling apart and all you can think of is yourself! :D

I'd say it's days as opposed to weeks. Might be a good time to pick up a bargain, but I am not too sure who. I was thinking Agger (Due to Skertel) but Chelsea play Liverpool next week  ;)

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 18, 2008, 03:55:10 PM
Great result this morning for boring, boring Chelsea.

Chelsea were fairly good, but Boro were shocking. The amount of time, and sapce they gave Lamps and co to pick a pass was criminal. Even (improving) Malouda looked like Messi today. Indeed Malouda was probably Chelsea's best performer, and may get the 3 bonus points fantasy footy fans.

The perfect game for Big Phil, as the ease of victory allowed him to rest Lamps for the last 20 mins, and give Deco some pitch time. The only blot being what looked like an injured Wayne Bridge going off.

Chelsea's goal differance is +16 which is some change on the previous couple of seasons, and will count in the latter part of the season. Ironically Big Phil's system is identical to Mourinhos bar the mind set. This is far frolm knocking TSO. When he came to Chelsea although the club had been succesful over the previous 5 or 6 seasons there wasn't that 'winning' mentality that is required. TSO installed this with a ridicuously brilliant defence, and a forging of superb team spirit. That was his legacy... a winning mentality.

Big Phil has come in and copied his style, bar the instructions for the full backs to attack constantly. This added width has allowed Maouda, Kalou and Joe Cole more space, and room to be adventurous. In addition the other major differance has been when Chelsea are one up. Under the previous regimes Chelsea would've adopted a defensive shell, but BP encourages his players to keep bombing foward. Hence why Chelsea have killed teams off quicker and better this season. This is the catalyst to the games being put to bed, and it allows the manager to rest Lampard, and co at opportune times. Legs saved for bigger battles.

Onwards and upwards..............
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 18, 2008, 04:04:09 PM
The pick of the bunch..... http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2383848 (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2383848)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 26, 2008, 07:34:39 AM
Two tough games in a few days now with Liverpool at home and Hull away! I never I'd say that in August. Who'd have thought that they would be riding so high at this point in the season. You have got to hand it to Rafa he has done a good job. Guffaw!

Only joking lads. I think this was also going to be a tight fixture today reagardless, but United's draw will add to the negativity. I can see Liverpool sitting deep and attempting to hit Chelsea on the break. An organised, well drilled defence at SB is something Chelsea have struggled with over the last year. Roma frustrated on Wednesday night, and Liverpool will today too. That, at the minute, is Chelsea's only weakness.. lacking that bit of guile to break a tight defence down. In truth we are relying on Malouda, Kalou or if fit Joe Cole to spark something, as Anelka tends to get isolated against the numbers.

My prediciton Chelseas to win 1-0 with a set-piece goal.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 29, 2008, 09:33:22 AM
Time for some bouncebackability Chelsea.

A mental test for Chelsea tonight, as much as a football one. As such that means that we need to see JT (10 years and a day after his debut) display some neccessary leadership. Ironically after the fall of Chelsea's home record it has been Chelsea's away record that has carried them so far this season.

It will also be interesting to see what sort of tactic Hull employs. I don't think they have the ability to sit with two banks of four as Liverpool/ Roma did , so they may have to come out and play a bit. To be fair, that's one thing that Hull can be applauded for so far this season. They have played a bit of decent football, as opposed to the normall new boys method of defending their way to points.

If Hull do come out, Chelsea will win. Malouda, Anelka, and Kalou can only operate if allowed to do so. Look at Chelsea's stats this year, and where we have struggled to break a defence down we have needed luck, perserverance and perhaps a set-piece.

Wigan 0 Chelsea 1 (Deco free kick)
Chelsea 1 Mancs 1 (Kalou header from free kick)
Chelsea 1 Roma 0 (Terry header from corner)
Chelsea 0 Lpool 1
Chelsea 0 Cluj 0

That's where the absence of Drogba is crucial. On occasions Drogba has beaten Liverpool single handedly. It means when teams employ the banks of four Chelsea are able to go long, and break things down. However Chelsea should not have to rely on one player, as United not Liverpool should rely on Ronaldo or Torres.

The return of Joe Cole will help tonight. Cole lacks pace at times, but his movement and flicks can just open things up when required.

Time to bounce back Chelsea.

Prediction: Hull 1 Chelsea 2 (Anelka, Lampard)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 30, 2008, 12:35:23 AM
Keep watching MOTD for a Lampard special....

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 30, 2008, 12:44:57 AM
Chelsea played well tonight, but 3-0 flattered to a degree. Hull were well in it at one down, and only a Bohill b***s up just into the second half killed their chances.

Negatives tonight are the injuries again. Cole went off with a knock, Carvalho went off with what looks like a fairly bad hamstring injury, and Terry looked to be grimacing for much of the second half.

Sunderland (H) next.............
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: J70 on October 30, 2008, 01:21:45 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 30, 2008, 12:35:23 AM
Keep watching MOTD for a Lampard special....



Did he mean that? Or was it a cross to the back post?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 30, 2008, 12:01:56 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 30, 2008, 01:21:45 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 30, 2008, 12:35:23 AM
Keep watching MOTD for a Lampard special....



Did he mean that? Or was it a cross to the back post?


ZZZzzzz. If Steven Gerard had scored it..it would've been 'goal of the decade', but because it is Lampard, it's 'Did he mean that?'
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: AFS on November 04, 2008, 10:00:07 PM
Bad result tonight. Its all great beating shit teams like Sunderland and Portsmouth by 5 or 6 but if you're not winning the big games you're not gonna go far.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 05, 2008, 12:25:47 AM
Never seen the game tonight as I am at work, but if there was a good time to lose a game this was it. As it stands Chelsea still top both the group, and the PL so taking the positives and all that.

In addition it might kill a wee bit of over hype too from the media. Chelsea are scoring more goals than before, but in a funny sort of way aren't as convincing.

But sure even United haven't won the 'big' games this year too (Chelsea, Lpool) so does the same theory apply AFS?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: J70 on November 05, 2008, 12:42:13 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 30, 2008, 12:01:56 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 30, 2008, 01:21:45 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 30, 2008, 12:35:23 AM
Keep watching MOTD for a Lampard special....



Did he mean that? Or was it a cross to the back post?


ZZZzzzz. If Steven Gerard had scored it..it would've been 'goal of the decade', but because it is Lampard, it's 'Did he mean that?'

Just saw this now... it was an honest question. What has Lampard said in the meantime?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Rav67 on November 05, 2008, 12:50:28 AM
Quote from: J70 on November 05, 2008, 12:42:13 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 30, 2008, 12:01:56 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 30, 2008, 01:21:45 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 30, 2008, 12:35:23 AM
Keep watching MOTD for a Lampard special....



Did he mean that? Or was it a cross to the back post?


ZZZzzzz. If Steven Gerard had scored it..it would've been 'goal of the decade', but because it is Lampard, it's 'Did he mean that?'

Just saw this now... it was an honest question. What has Lampard said in the meantime?

Lampard's been amazing this season but look at his eyes and his body shape when he hits it, he was definitely trying to cross that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 05, 2008, 01:11:11 AM
Quote from: J70 on November 05, 2008, 12:42:13 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 30, 2008, 12:01:56 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 30, 2008, 01:21:45 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 30, 2008, 12:35:23 AM
Keep watching MOTD for a Lampard special....



Did he mean that? Or was it a cross to the back post?


ZZZzzzz. If Steven Gerard had scored it..it would've been 'goal of the decade', but because it is Lampard, it's 'Did he mean that?'

Just saw this now... it was an honest question. What has Lampard said in the meantime?

Fair enough. If it was an honest question I'll retract. I don't think Lampard has mentioned it to be honest. Personally I thought it was meant, and the fact that he maintains his momentum by starting to run off to celebrate supports that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: gawa316 on November 05, 2008, 12:43:08 PM
I see there was violence at the game again last night. Anyone know what happened?

If it was the Roma fans surely there should be a ban similar to A.Madrids
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 05, 2008, 05:03:38 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on November 05, 2008, 12:43:08 PM
I see there was violence at the game again last night. Anyone know what happened?

If it was the Roma fans surely there should be a ban similar to A.Madrids

To be honest the reports last night where that it was very low level, but I'd say the adverse weather put the hoolies off. Maybe there was more on the news today but I haven't been near a TV yet.

If Rome step outta line at all they shiould lose the CL final.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 06, 2008, 10:48:22 AM
I SKY + the ITV highlights and watched them last night. There was a wee bit of trouble but nothing major.

On ITV they mentioned that any more trouble and Rome could/should lose the CL final. The host (Craig Doyle I think) stated 'ah sure there is a wee place called Croke Park that could hold it if they're stuck'. Don't think Robbie Earle knew what the feck he was on about.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 08, 2008, 10:07:54 AM
Some interesting stuff from Arnesen.


Some interesting disclosures imo (I haven't bothered with the boring bits)...

Firstly, Arnesen says he was limited to overseeing youth scouting and development in his first year at Chelsea. But as things developed, Roman thought it was a bit daft to limit Arnesen's scouting to U19 prospects, so Roman told him to take charge of first team scouting as well. This happened in the summer of 2006 and would explain why Jose seemed to feel threatened at the time.

Secondly, Arnesen says his move to Chelsea was 'done and dusted' before the famous yacht photo surfaced. He'd spoken to Levy extensively and they were just hashing out the final details of the switch, when Levy pounced on the yacht photo and used it to strong-arm Chelsea into paying more money. Not only that. While officially on gardening leave, Arnesen was still attending meetings and working for Tottenham right up until he started working for Chelsea.

Third: some quotes on the structural development at Chelsea:

"Today I've got about 1000 players in my database. This has happened since we started the program 2 years ago. We are improving our systems all the time and I've taken inspiration from the way they do statistics in US baseball. You have to keep developing because in modern football it's important to maintain first-mover advantage off the pitch.

"In my first year at Chelsea I didn't attend one board meeting. Because there werent any. Roman held his meetings with Mourinho or with Kenyon. But then Roman began to take an interest in the club's structure, so I asked him why on earth he wasn't holding meetings where people could share their expertise, experience and ideas? That's the kind of culture I came from in Holland and that's the kind of culture I wanted to help build up at Chelsea. So we began having meetings with specific agendas, where people were allowed to take the floor and where everybody had to follow up on what had been agreed. Only in this way could we build a dynamic and sustainable football culture that wasn't dependant on any one person (!).

"You could say we're in the process of building a new, modern Chelsea up from scratch. And it's a bit absurd that it should be as difficult as it has proven to be. Because it's quite basic knowledge that in any business culture, if you want to build something up, you have to communicate across departments to fully utilize the sum of knowledge and experience in the company. In this respect too many football clubs are years behind - even though we are talking about businesses worth hundreds of millions of pounds. But this will change. The era of autocratic football managers who don't take an interest in all the other aspects of the club will soon be history.

Fourth: the academy:

"The cohesion and history of the club are important. We sometimes have our kids eat with the first team and we hang portraits of former Chelsea stars where 100s of youngsters and their parents attend training. This is to impress on them that Chelsea has a past, a present and a future. Football may have become a big-money industry, but if your heart's not in it then it's meaningless. That's why our kids live with local families so they've got someone to come home to. We don't just park them at a college where they have to fend for themselves. We talk to them about their school, about their diet, about being young, about pressure. Because even though this is a business, we are dealing with human beings and you have to treat people right and prepare them for a future that doesn't necessarily include professional football."

Fifth: Ethics, finance and the future (condensed translation).

About Chelsea's 24 hour car service that transports players and other employees: "I get driven to matches and to the airport. That way I can work while I commute. But if my family uses the service I pay of course. Tomorrow I'm off to watch football in Rome and Florence and I'm taking the missus but Ill be paying for her myself. I've built a reputation for being a stand-up, loyal person in a business that is full of people only too happy to rake money in anyway they can. I don't do that. I've had to walk the line of course, but I try to learn from my mistakes and I tell my scouts that their integrity and the integrity of the club is all-important. We have to keep our promises so it's better to promise too little than too much. Especially when you're sitting down to talk with a young man who is dreaming of a future in football.

"Developments here at Chelsea are now such that 80% of the changes I wanted to help implement are finished and there is no way back. The structures are firmly in place and even though the financial crisis has caused Roman to pull the handbrake and he has asked us to make big spending cuts we're still at the same level as Real Madrid and Man United. And we're getting close to a time where the club can compete successfully while turning a profit."
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 08, 2008, 10:10:13 AM
I see that the winner of football icon, Carl Magnay, has been called into NI U21 squad. A such that's two young Irish players in the Chelsea second string now. Magnay joining Dubliner Conor Clifford.

Anyone know what Magnay's NI roots are? NI Fan?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: nifan on November 08, 2008, 11:38:50 AM
http://www.chelsea.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=511144 (http://www.chelsea.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=511144)

is about as much as I know about him norf tyrone.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 08, 2008, 01:09:11 PM
No bother nifan.

Was hoping maybe someone on OWC might uncover something.

Ta.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: nifan on November 08, 2008, 02:12:24 PM
I expect ill hear a bit more about him now. Ill keep you informed if I do
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 08, 2008, 02:45:12 PM
Quote from: AFS on November 04, 2008, 10:00:07 PM
Bad result tonight. Its all great beating shit teams like Sunderland and Portsmouth by 5 or 6 but if you're not winning the big games you're not gonna go far.


See above for Mancs!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: AFS on November 09, 2008, 06:18:09 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 08, 2008, 02:45:12 PM
Quote from: AFS on November 04, 2008, 10:00:07 PM
Bad result tonight. Its all great beating shit teams like Sunderland and Portsmouth by 5 or 6 but if you're not winning the big games you're not gonna go far.


See above for Mancs!

Touché   :(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: gawa316 on November 12, 2008, 10:38:55 PM
Chelsea lose on pens to burnley
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 12, 2008, 10:47:36 PM
Shocking selection.

Injuries picked up tonight.

Bad night for Big Phil, and he must carry the can.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Over the Bar on November 12, 2008, 10:50:21 PM
Two defeats at the bridge in a month!   Scholari for the gulag?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 12, 2008, 10:51:40 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on November 12, 2008, 10:50:21 PM
Two defeats at the bridge in a month!   Scholari for the gulag?

Actually it was a draw as per those statistic gurus.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: gawa316 on November 12, 2008, 11:16:37 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 12, 2008, 10:47:36 PM
Shocking selection.

Injuries picked up tonight.

Bad night for Big Phil, and he must carry the can.

For a second string side it looked pretty strong. Who got injured?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 13, 2008, 11:30:16 AM
Deco picked up a knock, and went off. Belletti and Di Santo also injured.

My worry is that there is a bit of brittleness in this team (A bit now) that was absent during the José era. Some of the players are passangers yet manage to get picked week in week out, Malouda, and Kalou for example. I also think we have ideas above our station. Despite the fact that we banging in goals left, right and centre I am less confident in us winning games than we were last season and before that. To be me the players are far too confident in the team's abilities thinking every game's a breeze, and when we do get a wee bit of luck against us, or a challange....we falter.

Big Phil needs to earn his crust now and find that spirit.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: anportmorforjfc on November 13, 2008, 12:32:21 PM
lose to Burnley at home lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: corn02 on November 13, 2008, 12:44:26 PM
Portmor you must have had a bone on watching Soccer Special last night?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 13, 2008, 12:46:56 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on November 13, 2008, 12:32:21 PM
lose to Burnley at home lol

Losing to Coventry at home lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: full back on November 13, 2008, 12:47:59 PM
Chelski & penalties dont go well together ;)
















Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Doogie Browser on November 13, 2008, 12:56:39 PM
Nice to see Drogba giving something back to the fans last night too  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: billy the kid on November 13, 2008, 01:04:03 PM
Burnley WTF? ??? ???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 13, 2008, 02:35:13 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on November 13, 2008, 12:56:39 PM
Nice to see Drogba giving something back to the fans last night too  :P


I know. There is a fecking credit crunch on, global recession, and one of our players donates some money to the travelling fans and gets criticised for it. Ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: anportmorforjfc on November 13, 2008, 03:17:43 PM
2 home losses in 3 weeks. lol Not good enough
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 13, 2008, 03:37:37 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on November 13, 2008, 03:17:43 PM
2 home losses in 3 weeks. lol Not good enough

You should probably be more concerned with

Chelsea 12 9 2 1 29 4 25 29
Liverpool 12 9 2 1 19 8 11 29
Arsenal 12 7 2 3 25 13 12 23
Manchester United 11 6 3 2 20 10 10 21

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: anportmorforjfc on November 13, 2008, 03:49:22 PM
Not concerned at this time of the season. We'll see how many trophees yous win at the end of the season. You should be concerned with getting through the champions league group stage.   
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 13, 2008, 03:54:36 PM
Girls, girls please!

This is a decent neighbourhood.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2008, 10:08:18 AM
Despite the perceived lack of investment in Chelsea's youth policy, the rumours are that Chelsea's Michael Mancienne will be called into the FULL England squad tonight, even before he has made his Chelsea debut!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2008, 10:10:40 AM
Oh and no Cech, Belletti, Di Santo or Alex to add to the injuries of Ballack, Essien, the Cole brothers and Carvalho! Looks like tonight;

Cudicini
Bridge
JT
Ivanovic
Bosingwa
Mikel
Lampard
Deco
Malouda the French surrender monkey
Kalou
Anelka
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Minder on November 15, 2008, 10:17:37 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2008, 10:08:18 AM
Despite the perceived lack of investment in Chelsea's youth policy, the rumours are that Chelsea's Michael Mancienne will be called into the FULL England squad tonight, even before he has made his Chelsea debut!!
Is he the full back that went on loan to QPR? If he has been called up it is purely for PR reasons and a "nice story". How can you be ready for international football if you have not played in your clubs first team?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2008, 12:34:27 PM
Same lad Minder. He played full-back for QPR but is actually a centre-half more so. He is currently on Wolves on loan, and has been christained 'The Black Beckenbaeur'!

I remember seeing him in the Milk Cup a thought he was good, but there was one or two better. Sinclair was disapointing at the Milk Cup, and truth be told has been disapointing whenever he has made a first team appearance.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 16, 2008, 10:21:23 PM
And Mancienne makes it! Massive boost for Chelsea's much maligned youth programme, and will help inspite Kakuta, Stoch, and one or two others bubbling under. Mancienne's progress probably means that Chelsea can probably afford to sell one of their four centre halfs in January with Ivanovic a possible £10 million target for Juventus.

If the stories of Phil needing to sell before he buys it might also mean Bridge being let go, and Ryan Bertrand (Eng U21s) being used as Ashley Cole's back up. Ivanovic and Bridge's departures would give him ~ £15 million for the Jan sales.

All speculation of course!

A very good Chelsea performance yesterday. I have been unimpressed with Anelka so far this season despite the goals, but yesterday he was outstanding and his two goals were stunning finishes. I stated that the system Chelsea plays with one up front didn't suit the French man, but the overlapping full backs supporting the wide men ensure that there are enough bodies there to support Anelka.

3 home games (Newcastle, Arsenal and can;t remember the other) out of our next four games.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: ONeill on November 16, 2008, 10:38:17 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 16, 2008, 10:21:23 PM
I have been unimpressed with Anelka so far this season despite the goals, but yesterday he was outstanding and his two goals were stunning finishes.


Eh? Stretching it a wee bit there.

Anelka's in some form though, probably his best (and maybe better) since the double season of 97/98.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 17, 2008, 01:34:15 AM
Well I thought they were stunning anyhow...well the first one was.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: nrico2006 on November 17, 2008, 09:38:55 AM
I see Scolari defending Drogba a la the coin throwing incident and fair play to him.  Not Drogbas biggest fan but I hate to see a player pulled like this whenever he is pelted or abused throughout a game and decides to hit back.  Fair enough he is not 'being a good role model' but I am fed up with hypocrites complaining about the kind of thing he has done whenever they see nothing wrong with watching their fellow fan hurl all sorts of abuse and objects at a player without saying anyhting to the appropriate persons.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Minder on November 17, 2008, 09:54:30 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 17, 2008, 01:34:15 AM
Well I thought they were stunning anyhow...well the first one was.

That first finish of Anelkas was pure class, similar to his finish last week against Blackburn. How many strikers have the presence of mind to dink it over the keeper like that? Plenty of them lose the head and blast it at the keeper.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 17, 2008, 11:32:34 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 17, 2008, 09:38:55 AM
I see Scolari defending Drogba a la the coin throwing incident and fair play to him.  Not Drogbas biggest fan but I hate to see a player pulled like this whenever he is pelted or abused throughout a game and decides to hit back.  Fair enough he is not 'being a good role model' but I am fed up with hypocrites complaining about the kind of thing he has done whenever they see nothing wrong with watching their fellow fan hurl all sorts of abuse and objects at a player without saying anyhting to the appropriate persons.

Can't believe I am actually going to disagree (sorta) with you defending a Chelsea player. I am totally in favour of players playing the pantomine villan if they are getting abused during the game. For example, scoring and celebrating in front of the away section etc. However I think when they return any abuse with physical interferance e.g. throwing a coin randomly into a crowd. That's too far. I actually think to a degree that what Cantona did to Simmons was less of an issue, as at least he targetted his agressor.
Rooney's returns to Goodison is probably one of the best examples where-by a crowd wind a player up for 90 minutes and then cry foul if so much as looks in their direction.

I note that the media have completely overlooked, at least what I have read, that Drogba received a lot of racial abuse from the Burnley fans last Wednesday night. A couple of friends of mine at the game reckoned that every time he got the ball it was wicked. No excuse though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: under the bar on November 17, 2008, 11:53:10 AM
QuoteI note that the media have completely overlooked, at least what I have read, that Drogba received a lot of racial abuse from the Burnley fans last Wednesday night. A couple of friends of mine at the game reckoned that every time he got the ball it was wicked. No excuse though

It's a separate issue but if racial abuse occured it should be highlighted.

I don't see how the coin throwing could be connected tho as virtually every player who celebrates a goal in front of the opposing fans gets pelted.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 17, 2008, 12:06:59 PM
I'd say it was connected as surely that was a catalyst to him reacting the way he did.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 22, 2008, 05:14:50 PM
FFS

23 shots today and no fecking goals. Again that lack of flair to unlock a tight defence was markedly missing.

The major worry is BFS plan B. There didn't appear to be anything different offered when it looked like a 0-0 was coming. Remember the days when José would make subs on the half hour mark....sigh.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 26, 2008, 09:56:23 PM
No imagination.
No flair.
No fight.
No clue.
No creativity.

Another toothless performance by Chelsea tonight. The wide boys of Malouda, and Joe Cole were awful, and truth be told young Miroslav Stoch on the bench would've offered no worse. In Cole's defence he is just back from injury, but Malouda....geezus.

To top it all off, our back four nod off and concede late on.

If our problem was simply creativity, a productive transfer window could fix that. However the club's fighting culture created by TSO is quickly evaporating. I noticed on Sunday that we are 2nd bottom (2nd best) in the disciplinary tables. Are we now too nice?

Real concerns for Sunday now, and an Arsenal side who can probably smell an opportunity to take themselves off the back page on Sunday.

A bit rambling this post....but that's the frustration emenating.

Ah well.....KTBFFH.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 01, 2008, 11:10:17 PM
Another bad day at the office yesterday, and the same old problems that I've spent several pages moaning about to the fore. The SKY stats suggested Chelsea had only one shot on goal. They obviously discount the goal, but we actually had two on target. A Lampard header, and a Kalou toe poke which was staright at the out rushing Almunia.
However two efforts at home in a game where we dominated posession says it all. Yesterday once more with Lampard not playing well we are left with no creativity whatsoever. Deco's okish first two games look like they are going to be the high point of his sesaon, Kalou promised much but his decision making was poor, and Anelka had to forage deep for scraps.

I actually felt that we were in control in the first half, and so much so that an air of over confidence appeared to engulf us. This lack of professionalism then came home to roost when Van Persie scored the leveller. After that Arsenal fairly much controlled things. Despite all Chelsea's failings I wouldn't be my old, biased self without mentioning the awful officiating. Twice in the first half the lino gives Chelsea offside when level, and then allows RVP to score while a yard or two offside. The goal had a major bearing on the game as before it Arsenal I didn't think looked in it. But there you go.

The positive for me was BFS lambasting the ref in the post game interview. Nice to see a nasty side to the big man.

Hopefully we can get back on the bike at in form Bolton on Saturday, with West Ham to follow at the Bridge. I think my hope that we have a 5 point lead at the half way mark is pushing it now, so hopefully we can be in or around the leaders and the return of Essien and Drogba plus a signing or two (WIDTH PHIL WIDTH) in January can see us challange into 2009.

KTBFFH
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: ONeill on December 01, 2008, 11:24:12 PM
QuoteThe positive for me was BFS lambasting the ref in the post game interview. Nice to see a nasty side to the big man.

Why, what did the ref do wrong?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 01, 2008, 11:27:23 PM
You know what I mean... I have explained it, or is there another veiled sarcasm to your post.


By the way O'Neill on another topic I asked you a wee question/ favour about a year or so back which I thought was a dead duck re a person I know playing in Croke Park  years back. Me...and you had no info regarding it. I have just stumbled across an old book that confirms that he did.

I'll explain via PM/emial this week.

Right back to Chelsea/ Arsenal you old sh**e.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 01, 2008, 11:27:45 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 01, 2008, 11:24:12 PM
QuoteThe positive for me was BFS lambasting the ref in the post game interview. Nice to see a nasty side to the big man.

Why, what did the ref do wrong?

Didn't send Terry off for a shockingly dangerous 2 footed challenge.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 09, 2008, 03:32:02 PM
I remember a few months back when the draw was made someone I suggested getting tickets for this game, and I told him 'waste of time'. Based on the assumption that the Blues would be long through at this stage. Ah well!

It's important to start strong tonight, and score in the first half hour, so on that;

My XI
                          Cech

Bosingwa      JT           Alex            Ashley Cole


Joe Cole      Ballack          Mikel            Deco

            Anelka                 Drogba
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2008, 09:54:06 PM
Well today's results make tomorrow a massive game for the Blues. A win tomorrow, not only puts Chelsea back on top but puts massive pressure on the Mancs as they head to Japan. Without getting too far ahead, United have no game next week, while Liverpool go to Arsenal. Two wins in the next two will put us on the front foot going into Christmas. However the way this season is going...heaven knows what'll materialise.

If we take 6 out of 6, and the returning Drogba returns to form I would be confident that the Premiership will be in SW6 in May!!

Tomorrow's game, outside of the result, will be a memorable one for Chelsea fans for another reason. The return of legend's Zola and Clarke to their old stomping ground. The two guaranteed a massive welcome.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Minder on December 13, 2008, 09:58:06 PM
Hopefully agents Clarke and Zola pull a trick........
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: AFS on December 14, 2008, 05:55:23 PM
Whats up with Chelsea at home?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 15, 2008, 09:33:01 AM
Quote from: AFS on December 14, 2008, 05:55:23 PM
Whats up with Chelsea at home?

F**k knows.

I couldn't get to see the game yesterday so got someone to tape it, and avoided the score all day. Sat down at 7pm, big fire, bottle of beer and it hadn't fecking taped right. So a foul mood before I heard the score was soon multiplied.

Again the problems sounded like they were in the creativity department. Deco again ineffective, and I'd say that a middle 5 of Deco, Ballack, Lamps, Cole and Mikel are lacking pace, power and guile. I don't rate Essien as high as most, but we have missed him more than I ever would've thought.

And to the Toffees on Monday night.............
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: ONeill on December 22, 2008, 07:54:42 PM
Will the Stamford Scumbags be top at Christmas?

# Chelsea Team: Cech, Bosingwa, Alex, Terry, Ashley Cole, Mikel, Joe Cole, Ballack, Lampard, Deco, Anelka Subs: Cudicini, Ivanovic, Drogba, Malouda, Bridge, Kalou, Belletti

# - Everton Team: Howard, Hibbert, Yobo, Jagielka, Lescott, Neville, Osman, Arteta, Fellaini, Pienaar, Cahill Subs: Nash, Baines, Van der Meyde, Rodwell, Jutkiewicz, Gosling, Kissock
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: ONeill on December 22, 2008, 08:45:36 PM
The refs are showing no mercy this weather.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: The Real Laoislad on December 22, 2008, 08:57:50 PM
Bit harsh,he went for the ball, yellow would have suffice
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: the milkman on December 22, 2008, 09:48:32 PM
Cech= play acting git  >:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Doogie Browser on December 23, 2008, 09:33:45 AM
Think John Terry will miss the Man U game at Old Trafford now too.

Edit - not if they count the FA Cup game!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 26, 2008, 05:45:54 PM
Very 3rd gearish today. In truth the result v Fulham on 27th will dictate how well today's performance was. If Lmapard had his shooting boys with him he'd have had another one or two, Ashley Cole played well too.

Drogba was in an out of the game, but that was to be expected with his lack of minutes. Anelka played in a withdrawn wide role, that I didn't really get, and to be honest neither did Anelka.

Glad to see Deco benched.

Very tricky game now on Sunday against the neighbours who do not like to conceed this year.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 28, 2008, 09:40:07 AM
A really tricky encounter today, and to escape with maximum returns today will be a great result. Fulham's home form this season has been excellent, and their defence stingy conceeding just 6 goals to date in their 9 games at the Cottage. Their sole defeat being when West Ham visited and the hosts played half the game a man shy.

With that in mind, a good Chelsea performance should still yield the points, but it's which Chelsea will turn up. I'd like to see BFS be positive and send out the same 11 that beat West Brom (Maybe bar the doubtful Bosingwa), but I'd be nervous that you could see Deco for Joe Cole and or Kalou for Anelka to freshen the legs.

Looking at the five contenders for the title, Arsenal and the Mancs will pick up all 3 points, and Villa should nick a win in Hull. Liverpool have a tricky day in Geordieland, but Newcastle are lightened since the game on the 26th, and this morning's news re Mike Ashley will only add to the barcodes self destruct tendancies.

With that in mind.... a must win at the neighbours today.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Carmen Stateside on December 28, 2008, 02:15:08 PM
Fulham 1 Chelsea 0
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Our Nail Loney on December 28, 2008, 02:25:59 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on December 28, 2008, 02:15:08 PM
Fulham 1 Chelsea 0

Good man Carmen with the updates there, I am sure the Chelski fans are much appreciative.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Carmen Stateside on December 28, 2008, 03:39:50 PM
Fulham are useless!!
Chelski 2 Fulham 1
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: ONeill on December 28, 2008, 03:52:35 PM
2-2

Fulham are great
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on December 28, 2008, 03:52:57 PM
2 all.  a late scramble
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on December 28, 2008, 03:54:56 PM
 a nice wee result  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Carmen Stateside on December 28, 2008, 03:57:32 PM
Fulham are unreal!! :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 28, 2008, 04:03:13 PM
Chelsea really should have won today
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 28, 2008, 07:45:30 PM
Frustrating day at the Cottage. Totally dominant, and had about 15 shots on target. Fulham have two and score twice. The two goals that were leaked were due to awful defending. Bosingwa gives away a cheap free kick and the defence lets the delivery bounce about, before someone (Mikel I think) loses Dempsey. The second was again shocking defending. You'd think in injury time you'd mark the posts!!

Between the goals Chelsea were actually very good. Drogba looked hungry, and was unlucky not to score, Carvalho came back in and looked like he'd never been away and Joe Cole showed sparks of invention. Frank Lampard was outstanding though, and basically did everything that could've been asked of him.... again.

However, how Deco remains in this side is a mystery. Today he was shocking. No scrap that. He was worse than shocking. I'd love to see his stats but all his forward passes, and set pieces went straight to a Fulham player. His only sucessful passes were backwards, or sideways. Reading the Chelsea forums there is split opinion among other supporters on him.

In truth, our league tilt is on the slide. Three off top is not a major deal, but with trips to OT, Emirates, Villa Park and Anfield to come the run in is extremely tough.

The next league game..... Old Trafford!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: ONeill on December 28, 2008, 07:51:49 PM
Deco had 14 'bad passes', joint second highest offender alongside Lampard and behind....Ash Cole.

The difference was that Lampard scored 2, had 8 shots, 4 on goal whereas Deco scored 0, had 1 shot and none on target! Even Cole had a shot on target.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 28, 2008, 11:58:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 28, 2008, 07:51:49 PM
Deco had 14 'bad passes', joint second highest offender alongside Lampard and behind....Ash Cole.

The difference was that Lampard scored 2, had 8 shots, 4 on goal whereas Deco scored 0, had 1 shot and none on target! Even Cole had a shot on target.



Where did you get them stats ONeill? I'd love to read them. You should have seen Deco's corners....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 01, 2009, 10:16:24 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 16, 2008, 10:21:23 PM
And Mancienne makes it! Massive boost for Chelsea's much maligned youth programme, and will help inspite Kakuta, Stoch, and one or two others bubbling under. Mancienne's progress probably means that Chelsea can probably afford to sell one of their four centre halfs in January with Ivanovic a possible £10 million target for Juventus.

If the stories of Phil needing to sell before he buys it might also mean Bridge being let go, and Ryan Bertrand (Eng U21s) being used as Ashley Cole's back up. Ivanovic and Bridge's departures would give him ~ £15 million for the Jan sales.
All speculation of course!

A very good Chelsea performance yesterday. I have been unimpressed with Anelka so far this season despite the goals, but yesterday he was outstanding and his two goals were stunning finishes. I stated that the system Chelsea plays with one up front didn't suit the French man, but the overlapping full backs supporting the wide men ensure that there are enough bodies there to support Anelka.

3 home games (Newcastle, Arsenal and can;t remember the other) out of our next four games.


Indeed the papers are full of 'Bridge to Man City' today for £10million. Good business if true.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 02, 2009, 06:13:32 PM
At last!
Some good business by the Chelsea board. Wayne Bridge has been very good at Chelsea, but £12 million (£5 million profit) is a good return for a second choice left back. Bridge leaves the Blues with a couple of PL medals, and a clutch of FA Cup and League cup medals.

However he will forever remembered for arguably (Tied with Lampard's at Bolton) Chelsea's most famous ever goal, and one that still sends the shivers down my spine....

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yA2__3GC-gY (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yA2__3GC-gY)


On another note I see some of the youngsters are in line for some time tomorrow v Southend including Mancienne's return from loan. The young lad Bruma at aged 17 is said to be a giant! Not literally though.



Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 03, 2009, 04:58:00 PM
Embarassing, and BFS has to be looking over his shoulder at this point.

Totally dominated the game from start to finish, but 1-0 is always a dangerous score. In addition he did not use any of these fecking youngsters until Di Santo comes on with two minutes left.

Ah well... another game on the box in a fortnight's time.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 06, 2009, 12:57:41 AM
No more bets on Scolari to go, say bookiesUNEXPECTED SCOLARI-TO-GO GAMBLE
AFTER seeing a flurry of bets which cut the odds for Chelsea boss Scolari tobe the next Premiership boss to lose his job, William Hill have suspendedtheir market.
'When you have punters wanting to bet £500 at 10/1 on something which was50/1 not long ago you have to ask yourself what they may know that youdon't' said Hill's spokesman Graham Sharpe.
Hills had quoted Scolari as a 50/1 shot to be the next Premiership managerto leave his job this season after Chelsea's draw with Southend. On Mondaymorning they took a few bets at 50/1, cut him to 28/1 at which odds theytook more money, shortened him again to 16/1 and to 10/1, but still hadclients - some brand new ones, some well established, coming on to ask forbets of up to £500.
'At that point we decided to suspend the market until we could discover whatthe motive for the gamble may have been' said Sharpe.
**HILLS were making Mark Hughes 10/11 favourite to be the next boss to gowith Tony Adams at 9/4; Southgate 13/2 and Kinnear 9/1. 'It might just bethat a whole host of punters decided Scolari was too big a price to go andall decided to back him at the same time. On the other hand, it might bethat there has been behind the scenes action of some kind at Chelsea' addedSharpe 'It doesn't bode well for Scolari's long term future at the Bridge!But then, he does have previous form - he allegedly accepted the England joband then changed his mind.'
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: AFS on January 06, 2009, 06:47:00 AM
You may be due a thread title change soon then Norf.

What do you reckon the chances are of him getting the boot/ doing a Keano?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 11, 2009, 08:38:31 AM
BIG day in the Premier League today. Any Chelsea fan who grew up through the 80s and most of the 90s will tell you that Chelsea's trait is losing to Scunthorpe, and the likes then travelling to somewhere like Old Trafford and winning.

The only thing I desire today is for Chelsea to be positive. If we play to our capabilities there is no reason why we can't collect something from TTOD (C). In that regard I'd like to see both Anelka and Drogba start. In an ideal world they'd start in a 4-4-2, but I don't think OT is the place to go and try that for a first time.

That would mean a 4-1-4-1 is the best that I can hope for, with Anelka and Joe Cole pushing on to assist Drogba, the on fire Frank Lampard and Ballack in the middle with Obi Mikel shoring things up.
The back four are as strong as we can field with the return of JT and Carvalho to the side. However, as in the CL final, I'd be extremely worried about our right back. Fergie is no mug, and I'd expect to see Ronaldo giving a left wing role to go at Bosingwa and expose his defensive frailties. With that in mind Ballack may need to pop across and help out when United have the ball. However with the speed of MU's breaks I can't see the German having the legs to cover EVERY time.

That's what I hope. However I fully expect Malouda or Deco to start in place of one of the strikers.

It's a long time that I went out to watch a Chelsea game where we are as keenly priced by the bookies, and few are giving us a cat in hell's chance.

The only question for me......... Have I got my Chelsea back?
Tell you at 6pm, but I have a funny feeling about today  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 11, 2009, 01:24:54 PM
Fergie continues the games...

Chelsea's players and staff were evacuated from their Manchester hotel at 0700 GMT this morning after the fire alarm went off. They spent around 50 minutes outside and in the lobby before being allowed to go back to their rooms.

That's the second time in three seasons that has happened pre a Man U away game, and in all seriousness I hope there is a police investigation this time.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 11, 2009, 02:24:51 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 11, 2009, 01:24:54 PM
Fergie continues the games...

Chelsea's players and staff were evacuated from their Manchester hotel at 0700 GMT this morning after the fire alarm went off. They spent around 50 minutes outside and in the lobby before being allowed to go back to their rooms.

That's the second time in three seasons that has happened pre a Man U away game, and in all seriousness I hope there is a police investigation this time.

Wouldn't put it past them to be honest.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 11, 2009, 09:26:13 PM
Utter rubbish. The beer means that I'll not bother analyse til the moro....maybe.

Basically It'll comprise.

* Drogba- Goodbye.
* Ballack- Past it.
* Scolari- SET f**king PIECES! DEFEND THEM.
* Bosingwa- A right backs job is to defend.
* Rooney- You are not the ref. HOW? How did he stay on the pitch.
* Chelsea- Too nice. Ronaldo rolls for 20 yards and Lampard gets booked.
* Ronaldo- Already booked at this stage rakes the studs down Lampard.... who smiles and shakes his hand.
* Rooney- Worked like a tojan.
* berbatov- Worked very hard....compared to Drogba.
* Park, Fletcher, Giggs- Not scared of the hard work. Credit to them.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Clown on January 11, 2009, 10:01:20 PM
im not a chelsea supporter but i detest united so i was supporting them today

i think its the end of that team, a few players are well past their best - ballack, terry, cech
drogba hasnt looked interested in the last 2 seasons.
anything that ray wilkins touches usually turns to shite!

united seemed the hungrier team, park rooney giggs and fletcher worked like mad whereas can anyone really say players like anelka ballack or deco really were bothered if they won today or not??


cudnt believe webb didnt hav the balls to book rooney for his swipe at bosingwa in the first half when he had booked lampard for an innocous challenge just before - but to still not show him a yellow when he petulantly walked away, gestured and told him to fck off at least 3 times was a disgrace. ashley coles actions against spurs last season werent as bad as that yet the media made out as if he had murdered someone!

finally, as a celtic fan who got beat 3-0 at OT earlier this season (albeit after 2 offside goals), it will be interesting to see if any so called experts (ie charlie nicholas or paul ince) come out and use terms like 'men against boys', 'gulf in class' or 'embarrasingly one sided' - as they did after our defeat at OT.




Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: new devil on January 12, 2009, 06:39:44 AM
chelsea were beat on pens in champions league final last season.. They had a bad day
Celtic are just shit
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Clown on January 12, 2009, 09:18:48 AM
yeah i know the result of last seasons champions league final

i was just pointing out the difference in the medias reaction when celtic get well beat at old trafford, and when most premier league clubs get beat there
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2009, 10:46:48 AM
Premier League - Maradona's cigar sparks Chelsea alarm
Eurosport - Mon, 12 Jan 08:59:00 2009

Chelsea's preparations for their match against Manchester United were disrupted in the early hours of Sunday morning by a fire alarm reportedly started by Argentina legend Diego Maradona's cigar.

Luiz Felipe Scolari's side had to evacuate the Radisson Edwardian Hotel in Manchester after alarms sounded at seven o'clock, and players were spotted standing outside in freezing conditions, some wearing just towels and bathrobes.

An eyewitness told The Sun: "I saw most of Chelsea outside shivering. It wasn't the best preparation for a vital game."

Argentina manager Maradona was in Manchester to see United striker Carlos Tevez, although the 24-year-old played no part in the game as a lacklustre Chelsea side were beaten 3-0.

Greater Manchester Fire Service said they could not reveal what caused the alarm, a fireman said that Maradona and his associates were to blame.

"It looks as though it was set off by Diego and his entourage smoking cigars on the 14th floor," the fireman told The Sun.

Two fire trucks came to the hotel but they discovered no fire in the 263-room hotel.

Hotel manager Steve Miles said: "We followed procedure. It was a genuine alarm."

United suffered their own disruption before the game after their coach driver lost his keys.

The driver smashed a window to gain access to the team bus, but triggered an immobiliser and engineers had to be called to start the engine.

The broken window was visible as the United squad arrived at Old Trafford.

A club spokesman said: "It was accidental, there was nothing sinister about it."
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Square Ball on January 14, 2009, 08:37:51 PM
 1 down to Southend, but a long time left
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 14, 2009, 11:04:19 PM
Far, far more professional tonight. In the end up 4-1 probably flattered Southend with posession something like 78-22 and Chelsea having ~20 shots on goal. Drogba's absence may have been a postive!

In addition the youf are through to the next round of the youth cup with a 5-1 win. I think it might be Liverpool next.

And to cap off a good day....got a ticket for Anfield on the 1st in the Chelsea end.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: gawa316 on January 14, 2009, 11:07:02 PM
Are the drog's days numbered or whats going on with him?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: gawa316 on January 17, 2009, 09:13:57 AM
I see there is reports of Scolari putting the whole team up for sale.

Very sad indeed ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 17, 2009, 10:53:42 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on January 17, 2009, 09:13:57 AM
I see there is reports of Scolari putting the whole team up for sale.

Very sad indeed ;)

gawa you are nearly a bigger contributor now than me  :P despite your spin doctoring.

A tricky encounter today, but probably the perfect fixture to answer any questions regarding Chelsea's spirit. If Chelsea match Stoke's spirit today the three points are in the bag. Wednesday past was definately a better night for the Blues with the players looking hungrier and more industrious.
Obviously everyone's focus today will be on set plays and no-one can punish you more in this regard than Stoke. I see BFS is going partly zonal, partly man to man which was a system that Liverpool had a lot of joy with in the 80s. Hansen and Lawro employed to mark, two on the posts, and Whelan on the edge of the six yard box. It's a strange time to be trialing systems!

Hopefully the big lad rewards those who did the business on Weds, with Kalou out left and Anelka up top. The rumour is that Joe Cole is gone for 7 months, which is a massive blow, despite the fact he ain't playing all that well. Reading between the lines it looks like no replacement will be purchased, as Miroslav Stoch, and Gael Kakuta are both in today's squad. Both are wide men (Boys), with Kakuta probably one that has definately the ability to be world class.

Finally... another rumour for you. The reason for Roman's prudence.. Chelsea are about to announce either a brand new stadium OR an extension of SB.

Chelsea 2 Stoke 0 (Anelka, Super Frank)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: gawa316 on January 17, 2009, 12:54:01 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 17, 2009, 10:53:42 AM

gawa you are nearly a bigger contributor now than me  :P despite your spin doctoring.


Sorry thought it was big news. I'm at a first aid course all weekend and i checked my phone for messages and the internet had a come on, the top story was what I mentioned. So is there any truth in it?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 17, 2009, 01:55:31 PM
I think basically he said that if they don't perform they all can go.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 17, 2009, 03:01:55 PM
cole out for season,terry injured in the warm up as well
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 17, 2009, 04:23:40 PM
Stoke 1 up!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 17, 2009, 04:57:55 PM
omg 2-1 Chelsea
Lampard great strike!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 17, 2009, 06:08:23 PM
What a game! Firstly Stoke were excellent. Defending was really disciplined and organised, as Pullis identified that Chelsea have very little threat from wide so tucked his fiull backs into the corner of the box, and the Chelsea attack was strangled. However Chelsea managed to have something like 25 shots at goal!! Sorenson was fantastic too, one save from Ashley Cole was world class. In the first Chelsea pummelled them. However Chelsea completely lost their way in the second half and sloppy play from Cole and Carvalho allowed Delap in for a neatly taken goal.

Eventually.... Scolari made some meanigful changes. Belletti, Di Santo and Stoch coming on. Stoch hugged the touchline and opened up a wee bit of space centrally. First goal Di Santo's good header finds Belletti, and the second is created by a good Stoch cross which Lampard eventually rifles home. All three subs having an impact. Coincidentally Lampard's drive actually goes in off Ballack's back! However SFL deserves the goal.

The celebration with Scolari and the players maybe indicates that the media's 'spirit' issue that Chelsea have is maybe a myth.

(http://theshed.chelseafc.com/chat/uploads/114633054.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 18, 2009, 05:01:09 PM
STATEMENT ON BEHALF OF OWNER

Defamation proceedings will be commenced tomorrow (Monday) in London by Roman Abramovich against the publishers of The Sunday Times.

This follows the publication by them of false claims that he wants to sell his interest in Chelsea FC. Mr Abramovich has already made quite clear, through the directors of Chelsea, that he has no intention of doing so and that neither he nor any of his appointed representatives has been pursuing any such course of action.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Doogie Browser on January 23, 2009, 01:10:01 PM
Norf did you catch the show last night on SS1, it was Jeff Stelling talking to three Chelsea legends (Bonetti, Webb & Harris), they have done Spurs also so I am sure there are more to go on other teams.  It will be repeated loads of times.
Is a decent enough show though particularly to hear them talk about how physical the game was in the 60's & 70's compared to now.  For example Bonetti was saying how hard Johnny Giles was and that Big Jack was a mouse in comparison! 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Declan on January 23, 2009, 02:25:45 PM
Interesting stuff

By Dominic Kennedy in London
Saturday July 05 2008
ROMAN Abramovich, the owner of Chelsea Football Club, has admitted agreeing to pay billions of dollars for political favours and protection fees to get his hands on the former Soviet Union's mineral wealth.
The puzzle of how the penniless street trader rose to amass a €14.4bn fortune is explained for the first time in his own words in court papers seen by an English newspaper.
Mr Abramovich paid older oligarchs so that he could obtain a big share of Russia's oil and aluminium assets and to escape unscathed from the deadly postcommunist carve-up. He famously emerged triumphant after the "aluminium wars", in which more than 100 people were believed to have been killed in gangland feuds over control of the lucrative smelters. He avoided the fate of a rival oligarch who annoyed the Kremlin and ended up being transported to jail in Siberia for 10 years.
Refugee
Mr Abramovich (41) has been forced to tell his story because he is being sued for $4bn (€2.54bn) by his mentor Boris Berezovsky (62) a refugee in Britain, at the London Commercial Court.
The exile claims that Mr Abramovich became an enforcer-type figure for Vladimir Putin, passing on alleged threats of confiscation to pressure him into selling shares in former state assets cheaply. Mr Abramovich has retorted with a 53-page defence that accuses Mr Berezovsky and a Georgian oligarch of demanding huge sums for helping him to rise from obscurity.
The man from Georgia, Arkady "Badri" Patarkatsishvili, emerges as the key intermediary, passing messages between the former friends.
Mr Patarkatsishvili was offered $500m (€318.5m) by Mr Abramovich, the defence papers admit, for protecting him in the aluminium wars.
The Georgian was found dead in the bedroom of his country house in Leatherhead, Surrey, southern England, five months ago. Tests showed that he had advanced heart disease. He was 52.
Mr Abramovich launches his defence with an icy riposte to his old pal. Mr Berezovsky's signed particulars of claim state that the football boss was formerly his "trusted friend and close business associate".
Mr Abramovich is loath to accept that there was any trust. "Save that it is admitted that the defendant and Mr Berezovsky were friends, no admissions are made," he states.
Mr Abramovich's vast wealth is founded on the Siberian oil company Sibneft, which was privatised by President Yeltsin in 1995 in an auction that some experts suspect of having been rigged.
The Chelsea owner now admits paying Mr Berezovsky, then nicknamed "Godfather of the Kremlin" because of his influence over President Yeltsin, to secure the oil business.
The Chelsea owner's next target was the aluminium industry. After privatisation, smelter managers, metals traders and journalists were reported to have been killed as groups battled for control.
Mr Abramovich now admits that he owed his success to the late Georgian oligarch.
"Mr Patarkatsishvili did ... provide assistance to the defendant in the defendant's acquisition of assets in the Russian aluminium industry," he states. (© The Times, London)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 23, 2009, 03:04:00 PM
Quote from: Declan on January 23, 2009, 02:25:45 PM
Interesting stuff
Is it interesting? I am not very up to speed in political, court dealings but I found it boring. I am also not sure of the article's relevance as it's from July 2008. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Declan on January 23, 2009, 03:18:58 PM
I thought it was interesting as regards Abramovich and how he became so rich - that's all. No agenda 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 26, 2009, 12:11:58 PM
I see Jon Obi Mikel let himself down a bagful on Saturday morning. Arsehole.

Carlo Cudicini now confirmed as a Spurs player. A fantastic keeper, who showed great loyalty to Chelsea, and rewarded with a free transfer.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Minder on January 26, 2009, 12:16:34 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 26, 2009, 12:11:58 PM
I see Jon Obi Mikel let himself down a bagful on Saturday morning. Arsehole.

Carlo Cudicini now confirmed as a Spurs player. A fantastic keeper, who showed great loyalty to Chelsea, and rewarded with a free transfer.

What did he do?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 26, 2009, 12:34:33 PM
Mikel charged with drink-driving
SOCCER : John Obi Mikel has been charged with suspected drink-driving, hours before Chelsea's FA Cup match against Ipswich.

The 21-year-old was stopped by police at 5.30am on Saturday after being seen driving his Range Rover "erratically" near his club's ground in London's Fulham Road.

Later the same day, Chelsea beat Ipswich 3-1 in the fourth round - although Mikel was not part of the squad.

The Nigerian midfielder has since been charged and will appear in court on April 3rd.

He faces a year's driving ban or a jail term if the offence is deemed exceptionally serious.

A Chelsea spokesman said: "We are aware (Mikel) was arrested and charged. We want to establish the facts before we comment."

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Stalin on February 01, 2009, 10:58:27 PM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45434000/jpg/_45434955_45434789.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: gawa316 on February 01, 2009, 11:40:36 PM
(http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8468.0;attach=13398;image)

What the fcuk is the linesman looking at...Benayoun's Elvis impression?!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 02, 2009, 12:08:47 AM
TO be fair he's lookign to see if the ball crosses the line.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: J70 on February 02, 2009, 04:45:44 AM
(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9675/spartasingwaej6.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: orangeman on February 02, 2009, 09:35:48 AM
Quote from: J70 on February 02, 2009, 04:45:44 AM
(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9675/spartasingwaej6.gif)


That is simply crazy - what did the Liverpool man have to do to get a foul ?? Get stabbed through the heart ???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: fred the red on February 02, 2009, 09:09:03 PM
Chelsea sign Quaresma from Inter 


Chelsea have signed Portugal winger Ricardo Quaresma on loan from Inter Milan until the end of the season.

The 25-year-old rejoins Chelsea boss Luiz Felipe Scolari, who was his national coach with Portugal.

Quaresma was Inter manager Jose Mourinho's first signing when he joined from Barcelona for £15m in the summer of 2008.

But the winger has struggled at the San Siro and was left out of Inter's Champions League squad on Sunday.

He has only played 12 times this season and was heckled by his own fans during the 1-1 draw with Torino.

Chelsea have struggled for wide men since losing Joe Cole for the rest of the season with knee ligament damage, and Scolari has decided to look to another of the Portugal players he worked with at Euro 2008.

The former Sporting Lisbon, Barcelona and Porto winger becomes Chelsea's sixth Portuguese player alongside Ricardo Carvalho, Deco, Paulo Ferreria, Jose Bosingwa and goalkeeper Hilario.

Quaresma, nicknamed "Mustang" for his speed and power, began his career with Sporting Lisbon where he won the Portuguese championship in 2001/2002 playing alongside Cristiano Ronaldo.


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 03, 2009, 03:16:52 PM
Frank wins red card appeal
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 03, 2009, 08:58:01 PM
Good singing Quaresma. There are plenty of doubts over application, and ability. However on loan means that is a low risk move.

Just looking at Bosingwa's tackle again, and it's a clear case of obstruction, and a free out to Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 04, 2009, 10:09:59 AM
http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/4076812._NHS_is_exploiting_my_life____claims_trasnssexual/ (http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/4076812._NHS_is_exploiting_my_life____claims_trasnssexual/)

Poor JT.......
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Jimmy Joe on February 04, 2009, 10:12:26 AM

http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/4076812._NHS_is_exploiting_my_l

Looks like John Terry is just full of surprises
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 04, 2009, 10:23:49 AM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on February 04, 2009, 10:12:26 AM

http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/4076812._NHS_is_exploiting_my_l

Looks like John Terry is just full of surprises

Yeah. ^^^^^^ Look up before you post ^^^^^^.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2009, 08:29:18 AM
Positive rumours coming out of SW6 this morning. Apparantly Roman is about to make an announcement that confirms his commitment to Chelsea.

One theory is that it's a new stadium or expansion of SB. However it's likely to be a conversion of the club's debt to shares. This, in my limited financial knowledge, would make the club debt free. With other clubs being strangled by huge interest repayments this would keep Chelsea very competitive in the transfer market bar Man City.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2009, 02:45:16 PM
Oh feck. No Cech tomorrow, and with Carlo in Norf London it'll be Hillario time! Ah well.
To be fair Cech has been in poor enough form at present.

Team I'd love to see tomorrow, but it won't happen.

                                    Hilario
Belletti                   JT                  Carvalho                   Ashley Cole

                                    Mikel
                               Ballack     Lamps

                   Anelka       Drogba             Quaresma
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2009, 02:50:17 PM
Oh and another point....

I notice that Hackett has not come out and publically apologised to Chelsea for his man effectivelly ending Chelsea's premiership challange. I don't think it's something he should do by the way, but he saw fit to come out and apologise to Liverpool last season.

Why the difference?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: bingobus on February 06, 2009, 03:24:47 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2009, 02:45:16 PM
Oh feck. No Cech tomorrow, and with Carlo in Norf London it'll be Hillario time! Ah well.
To be fair Cech has been in poor enough form at present.

Team I'd love to see tomorrow, but it won't happen.

                                    Hilario
Belletti                   JT                  Carvalho                   Ashley Cole

                                    Mikel
                               Ballack     Lamps

                   Anelka       Drogba             Quaresma

That young keeper with the youths last night looked like a younger Cech to me without the head gear. Is he English or European?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2009, 03:33:28 PM
Heimann I presume. I think he is German.
He was fantastic against United earlier in the Cup, and has looked very promising from reports in general. However I believe he was poorish last night.

The lad that came on for Chelsea (Conor Clifford) is a Dub by the way.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2009, 02:17:08 PM
Hilario
Bosingwa
JT
Alex
Ashley Cole

Mikel
Lampard
Ballack

Queresma
Anleka
Kalou

Subs
Taylor
Deco
Ivanovic
Belletti
Stoch
Di Santo
Drogba
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2009, 06:43:14 PM
What a load of rubbish.

Chelsea on top for much of the first half, and Terry missed a sitter after about 60 seconds. After that Kalou looked the only offensive player to offer any threat.

However why, against someone like Hull, do we employ a defensive midfielder. Frustratingly again we sacrifice two up two for an anchor role. I don't mind Mikel playing but he showed be parked in more attacking zones instead of just in front of JT and Alex.

Massive chants for Scolari out again.... and banners unfurled at FT. For some reason Wilkens was sent to do the post match SKY interview, which sticks of cowardice on BFS's part.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 07, 2009, 06:54:55 PM
Does seem to be a lack of guidance from Scolari NT?  When fans are singing 'you don't know what you're doing' at their own manager I feel he will not win back any credibility with them.  Can you afford another regime change though and is it necessary??  Will take a new man time to bed in and he will invariably look to change things on the pitch with personnel and could set you back another 12/18 months, not every manager can win the league in their first year like Jose.
I hope this continues for another fortnight though until we play you.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2009, 07:00:21 PM
It's just clueless though DB. We have had no plan B for many months, and now we look to have no plan A either. To be honest if he was blooding Stoch, Mancienne, Di Santo etc- as he needs to do- the fans would have some sympathy.
Look at Ballack, Carvalho, Deco, Drogba, Lampard all are leggy and at the wrong end of the scale. Kenyon needs to take some responsability here. I believe BFS is only a two year contract. That smacks of short term goals.

The club needs a manager with balls to come in and ditch some of those who are so in the comfort zone it's unreal for example Malouda, and Ballack. He also needs be brave enough to rebuild. However he needs the backing of the board to do that, as it'll mean losing a few games here and there. Losing a few does little for the brand.

Do you know who can do a good job blooding young lads, and rebuilding teams? Claudio Ranieri.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 07, 2009, 07:03:00 PM
Ranieri was on the cusp of big things with Chelsea pre-Roman anyway and IMO was teated shabbily by Chelsea.
I don't know too much about the internal workings of yuour club but i have always thought Ray Wilkins to be nothing more than a nodding dog with little or nothing to offer. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2009, 07:22:00 PM
Wilkins is very much a yes man, who appears to be an awful PR front. His interviews are so passionless, and 'credit to the oposition' shit.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: FermPundit on February 07, 2009, 07:41:29 PM
I was watching Sunday Supplement on Sky Sports a few weeks ago and the journos where suggesting there are major problems at Stamford Bridge. They were implying that a lot of Chelsea players weren't pulling their weight in training and too many were enjoying the care free management approach of Big Phil. They also said that half of the stuff going on wouldn't have happened with Jose at the helm.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2009, 08:08:30 PM
Quote from: FermPundit on February 07, 2009, 07:41:29 PM
I was watching Sunday Supplement on Sky Sports a few weeks ago and the journos where suggesting there are major problems at Stamford Bridge. They were implying that a lot of Chelsea players weren't pulling their weight in training and too many were enjoying the care free management approach of Big Phil. They also said that half of the stuff going on wouldn't have happened with Jose at the helm.

It's hard to know what to believe. The same journos were earning their crust by slating the Mourinho regime too when he was there. There is a rumour that JT, and Lampard confronted Phil because of how lax training was.
To be fair if a guy has been out of the club game for 10 years plus, his day to day training is not going to be up to speed, and in truth I have never seen Chelsea players looks so unfit.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 08, 2009, 07:55:17 AM
Xabi Alonso... highest new entry in footballers I dislike.

Liverpool's Xabi Alonso ensured Frank Lampard would not escape the spotlight by re-igniting their row.

The Chelsea midfielder was controversially sent off during his side's 2-0 defeat at Anfield last week and although the FA overturned his red card on appeal, Spaniard Alonso insisted Mike Riley made the right decision. The bitter rivals could face each other again on Wednesday when Spain play England in a friendly in Seville and Alonso said: 'As far as I am concerned, Lampard's tackle was a hard and unnecessary piece of play.

'He says he went for the ball, but I saw his leg going straight towards my ankle.
'I don't think he was going for me but those sort of challenges are always dangerous. Honestly, I was very lucky because it could have caused me a serious injury. When I saw my opponent's foot on my leg I feared another injury like the one in that past season. Jumping saved my ankle.

'For me, the challenge was dangerous and received the card that anyone, Lampard or any other footballer, should receive.'
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 09, 2009, 04:19:53 PM
Big Phil gone!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: aroundincircles on February 09, 2009, 04:20:04 PM
Big phill fired!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: DownFanatic on February 09, 2009, 04:20:52 PM
100% true. Got chop in the past hour. Tony Adams in to replace him  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Scolari Era
Post by: ExiledGael on February 09, 2009, 04:22:32 PM
Shocked at that, wilkins taking charge for now, who next? Rijkaard was favourite even before this
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Position Vacant
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 10, 2009, 09:42:07 AM
Morning all.

I liked Solari as a person. He seemed an affable sort of a chap. However I don't think I was ever totally convinced he was/is the man that Chelsea need, and his record has added to that. A 56% win record at a team who less than a year ago was a kick from winning the CL is poor in the extreme.
I stated last year when AG was sacked that this appointment was one of the most important in Chelsea's history. However the board f**ked it up. I was just thinking yesterday evening that the last two managers that Chelsea appointed have never managed in European football before.

Scolari's time at Chelsea started off well with a home win over Portsmouth 4-0, and playing lovely football. The next game was a win, but from a sole Deco free kick. Following that to me the first problems appeared, a 1-1 draw at home to Spurs. This game was the same day as the AI semi final v Wexford, and I remember watching the second half of the Chelsea match and Chelsea did not seem to offer anything inventive whatsoever. Ah well... a blip I thought.

Things picked up again, and a win over Man City, and a point v United were decent returns, coupled with wins at Stoke and arguably Chelsea's finest ever performance against Villa when we won 2-0. It was magical to watch, as Chelsea tore Villa to shreads. Mboro were hammered 5-0, and the blip was a distant memory.

Then the doubts started to pick up for me;
Chelsea 1 Roma 0 (Terry header from a corner)
Chelsea 0 Lpool 1

A couple of decent results v Hull and Sunderland, but it didn't feel right. To me, when it worked we were fantastic.... when it didn't work we were flumoxed.

Roma turned over a soft Chelsea in Rome, and Burnley dumped us out of the CC. True WBA and Blackburn provided maximum on the road returns, but these were the teams you should be beating regardless.

Chelsea 0 Newcastle 0 (No invention)
Bordeux 1 Chelsea 1
Chelsea 1 Arsenal 2
Chelsea 2 Cluj 1 (Again we limped into the last 16 of the CL)
Chelsea 1 West Ham 1
Everton 0 Chelsea 0
Chelsea 2 WBA 0
Fulham 2 Chelsea 2
Chelsea 1 Southend 1
Man U 3 Chelsea 0 (Chelsea's worst performance in 5 years)
Chelsea 2 Stoke 1 (A real get out of jail day)

The scoring record in the Premiership since that Newcastle game reads, 0, 1, 2, 1, 0, 2, 2, 0, 2, 2, 0 ,0 . On five occasions of the 12 games we failed to score, and our average was one goal per game. In short at the start of the season with Cole, and Bosingwa bombing forward we had threat, and scared the begezzus of teams. However managers copped us on. Stiffle the full backs and pack midfield to stop Lampard. In addition we strangley decided to change defensive systems as well at set pieces, and went to a zonal marking system. Why? Who knows.

With the other teams now negating Chelsea's early season threats, it was time for plan B, and we waited and waited. There was none. Did Brazil ever need a plan B??

To compound the issue we were suddenly leaking set piece, and last minute goals. Previously the forte of the team. Torres struck twice in the last minute at Anfield, Southend equalised in inury time at SB, Dempsey for Fulham, and you can add Berbatov's late 3rd at OT. To me the players have looked sooo unfit. Again when you are an international manager you have the players for a few days every month or two so fitness isn't something you needed to work on.

Scolari claims he never brought anyone in bar Deco, and Kenyon has to take a bullet here too. So who bought Bosingwa? In addition to Deco, Scolari also brought the pointless Miniero. Admittedly the Robinho transfer fell through, but was it blase putting all the eggs in one basket? Was there not a back up if and when Robinho didn't sign? A plan B as such.

The Chelsea squad is good enough. They were good enough last year, and with a bit of luck could've won the CL and prem double. However the squad is aging, and you can see it in Deco and Ballack's legs. Drogba is a disruptive influence, and question marks remain over Anelka's ability/attitude. BFS should've edged another youngster or two into the fray. Ferguson is not afraid tp fire Wellbeck, the twins etc into games where he can. Earlier in the season Chelsea led Portsmouth 3-0 and with five minutes left had one sub left. He brought on Ferreria! Would it not have been better giving Stoch five minutes? His treatment of Mancienne has been a disgrace.

So what next?

Talk of Grant, Zola/ Clarke, José, Mancini etc. All these would bring their own question marks. The Grant one I'd suggest is his agent floating it out there to force Pompey's hand, and there would be anarchy at SW6 if he came back.
José? Yes please. It was a mistake to sack him, and I would be impressed by Roman if he was a man enough to admit this. Bring him back on a 5 year deal, with a remit to BUILD a side with youth and a transfer kitty. However there is no way Inter would let him go.... but stranger things and all that.
Clarke and Zola are the dream ticket but they lack a weeeee bit of experience. However Clarke has a fair bit of time and education under his belt. If this was 12 months down the line it would be a possible, but what if Zola failed. He is loved by Chelsea fans and this would be a very painful divorce.

It's very difficult to know who the successor would be. I just hope Chelsea don't rush into it. It may be wise to appoint an interim team until the end of season, and get shopping then. The new gaffer should be given the deal as per José above, and patience would be the key. The big prizes would be a 3 year plan, and maybe a wee cup to keep us happy in the interim period.

If I had to go with who might get it. Rijkard. He is available, and has a record of not being scared to bring young lads through. Messi anyone? However I couldn't warm to the fella at the minute.  My heart tells me Zola, and Clarke, and they rebuild over the next year or two culminating in lifting the CL at Wembley in 2001.

Don't tell me I'm a dreamer... because I am not the only one.


KTBFFH
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Position Vacant
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 10, 2009, 01:34:24 PM
It's funny how all the negative stories re Chelsea (Terry's supposed spit, Scolari's sacking etc) all are deemed to be worthy of people starting new threads. However very few take the time to post in the appropriate thread.
Tony Fearon gets lambasted for doing likewise.

Anyhow... looking like Hiddink until the season end at least.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Position Vacant
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 10, 2009, 01:51:43 PM
Norf do you believe if Hiddink does come that he would only be 'minding the house'?  I would think if he got a taste of the day to day aspect again he would want to remain, plus from your point of view he is a marquee name as far as managers go.  But...could Roman handle the backlash from the Ruskies if he keeps Hiddink at his club and deprives Russia of their manager at a crucial time in their WCQ campaign, as I think he is not too popular in his homeland anyway?
He is the ideal man to help you in the Champions league anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Position Vacant
Post by: under the bar on February 10, 2009, 01:56:29 PM
QuoteAlonso said: 'As far as I am concerned, Lampard's tackle was a hard and unnecessary piece of play.

'He says he went for the ball, but I saw his leg going straight towards my ankle.
'I don't think he was going for me but those sort of challenges are always dangerous. Honestly, I was very lucky because it could have caused me a serious injury. When I saw my opponent's foot on my leg I feared another injury like the one in that past season. Jumping saved my ankle.

'For me, the challenge was dangerous and received the card that anyone, Lampard or any other footballer, should receive.'

What a gutless fanny to come out with crap like that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Position Vacant
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 10, 2009, 02:04:12 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on February 10, 2009, 01:51:43 PM
Norf do you believe if Hiddink does come that he would only be 'minding the house'?  I would think if he got a taste of the day to day aspect again he would want to remain, plus from your point of view he is a marquee name as far as managers go.  But...could Roman handle the backlash from the Ruskies if he keeps Hiddink at his club and deprives Russia of their manager at a crucial time in their WCQ campaign, as I think he is not too popular in his homeland anyway?
He is the ideal man to help you in the Champions league anyway.

He would be a very surprising short term appointment IMHO. He is obviously a big name, and short termers don't tend to be big names. I am not overly versed in European football, but it would be interesting to see how Hiddink/ Roman handles things. I believe they have their summer target secured, or at least pin pointed.

It'll be quer crack to see this Staurday, Hiddink, Vicarage Road and Elton John!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Position Vacant
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 15, 2009, 02:17:29 PM
Well done Butch... showed more balls in 90 minutes than BFS did in 7 months.

His starting XI was just okish but again a holding midfielder against a struggling Championship team was uncalled for. However this was offset against the fact he was not afraid to drop Bosingwa, and give Michael Mancienne his debut, and indeed 90 minutes. Remember Wilkins selected MM ahead of Belletti, Ferrari and Bosingwa.

Saying that Chelsea battered Watford for the entire game, with Watford scoring a breakaway lead goal. Under the previous regime change was not something that came quickly. However Wilkins quickly changed things. Obi Mikel was removed, and young Stoch introduced which at last changed to a 4-4-2 system. Within minutes of Drogba and Anelka being paired up front together and Chelsea were 2-1 up. Again Stoch was first sub ahead of Deco, Malouda and co.

The other big positive was Roman's body language. He looked like a man who still cared to me....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Square Ball on February 15, 2009, 02:28:57 PM
The other big positive was Roman's body language. He looked like a man who still cared to me....

Norf

I love watching him, he kicks and heads every ball, a very very enthusiastic fan indeed
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 15, 2009, 10:56:25 PM
I can but dream....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7890621.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7890621.stm)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Square Ball on February 16, 2009, 04:47:51 PM
Feel terrible for him

Abramovich 'suffers £6.3bn loss' 

Abramovich has made a loss according to a Russian magazine
Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich has seen his wealth reduced by about $9bn (£6.3bn) in the financial crisis, according to a business magazine.

Abramovich held on to second place among Russia's wealthiest people with a fortune of $13.9bn, said Finans magazine.

Last year, American magazine Forbes estimated Abramovich was worth $23.5bn.

Russia has been hit hard during the recent financial crisis and several of the country's tycoons have suffered.

An updated Forbes list is due in around two months.




Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 20, 2009, 11:43:06 PM
A critical few days coming up for the Chelsea, as Hiddink's show gets on the round. It would be interesting to see what formation, and what side is sent out tomorrow. Everyone, me included, is clambouring for 4-4-2 or at least a bit of flexability with tactics. However tommorrow with Villa's pace may be a day more suited to 4-3-3, also it's a bit too much of a risky tie for changing things too much.
Chelsea don't have their sorrows to seek in the back line with Percy, Ashley Cole, and Alex all out.

As such I'd expect Chelsea to line out as follows;

                            Cech

Bosingwa      Terry       Ivanovic           Ferreria

                       Mikel
               Lamps      Ballack

Kalou                                    Anelka
                      Drogba

My worry is that Malouda started his career as a LB, and played a lot for Lyon there. I hope he is not put into the LM role to protect Paulo Ferreria.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: FermPundit on February 21, 2009, 01:08:29 PM
Fantastic goal from Chelsea. Great finish from Anelka
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 27, 2009, 07:58:42 AM
Well the Hiddink era starts off with two 1-0 wins. Who does that remind me of? Hmmmm.

Both games also followed a very similar pattern. Chelsea looked good in the first 45 minutes, and a couple of magic momments securing the spoils. On Saturday Stylian Petrov are co are still walking in a daze around Villa Park as 'Fat Frank' (As per Doogie's description  :P ) spins and feeds Anelka, and then on Wednesday a moment of genius by Kalou. I'll repeat that a moment of genius from Kalou, gives Drogba the chance to fire in.

However in both games the team faded in the second half, and on the balance of play in both games I could see reasons why Villa and Juve deserved draws. Truth be told, Chelsea tired really badly in both fixtures, as the hangover from BFS lax training continues. The differance in Hiddink's teams so far, is that the team are working much, much harder. The defence looks a lot more solid, and together. Cole and Bosingwa are attacking with more intelliegence and not bombing forward at every opportunity, and Terry and Alex look more of a unit. Alex I thought had a very good game on Wednesday bar one wee slip up.

Up front Drogba is certainly coming back to the DD we know. He was very bullish again on Wednesday, took his goal well before tiring badly in the last 15 minutes.

One other aspect of the Hiddink era is that on Wednesday when Chelsea were under 'P' who did he spring from the bench? Michael Mancienne. No fear from Guus, and a wonderful boost for the lad. He played very well too, and was very cool.

So a tricky but very winable encounter tomorrow. With 4 games in 11 days (Wigan H, Pompey A, Coventry A, Juve A), he may use tomorrow's home fixture to rest a few legs. Bosingwa is suspended so I'd expect Mancienne, Belletti or more than likely Ferreria to start at RB. Drogba or Anelka may get a rest with Di Santo starting, and perhaps even the duracell bunny that is Lampard will be on the bench if Deco is fit. Three points to keep the momentum going.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 02, 2009, 10:51:10 PM
Na na na na na na. Michael Essien, Essien, Michael Essien. Na na na na na na. Welcome back to the Bison!!


RESERVE REPORT: ASTON VILLA 4 CHELSEA 3
For the second week running the reserves lost by the odd goal in a high-scoring encounter but there was the great sight of Michael Essien completing the whole game on his comeback.

Such was the strength of the Ghanaian's return from six months out following a cruciate injury that he scored the final goal of the match late on at Villa Park.

Another success was the 60 minutes played by Ricardo Carvalho as he works back towards first team action following a five-week hamstring problem. Having suffered such injury earlier in the season, due diligence for the defender in his comeback is essential and he came through untroubled.

Essien played a holding midfield role against a Villa side who had their own first team squad member making a return. Dutch international defender Wilfred Bouma was playing for the first time since July. Marlon Harewood up front brought experience to a home side containing several players who had lost out in last year's FA Youth Cup semi-final to Chelsea.

Villa are the leaders in the Barclays Premier Reserve League South but Chelsea started very well and before either Essien or Carvalho had barely touched the ball, took the lead.

It was two of our younger prospects down the left side of the team who manufactured the third minute opener - and what a good goal it was!

Miroslav Stoch advanced and slipped the ball to overlapping full-back Patrick van Aanholt who, with the Villa right-back already committed and out the game, had space and composure for shot across the keeper and just inside the far post.

Chelsea centre-forward Frank Nouble then broke wide on the right but couldn't find Lee Sawyer who has forward from midfield inside the box but the passing overall was bright.

Fifteen minutes in, Chelsea almost doubled the lead with what would have been an even better goal than the first. In fact it would have been one of the free-kicks of the season had Stoch's 35-yard blast been an inch or two lower.

The ball rebounded off the crossbar but Mellis, who had been fouled initially for the strike, headed wastefully wide of an unguarded net.

Villa won a corner soon after - and it was headed away by Essien. But a minute later Villa equalised with their won counter down the wing. Carvalho had headed clear but Chelsea were disorganised when it came back. Harewood from the right had the pace to cross beyond Carl Magnay and Nathan Delfouneso, who had scored in the Youth Cup tie, finished first time. It was 1-1 with 19 minutes gone.

There was a shot by Weimann for Villa that passed uncomfortably close to the post before a classic moment of Essien power on 32 minutes as he collected a Noble pass on the edge of the box and bounced Hogg off his shoulder before his shot was blocked.

There was no denying our reserves however as the second goal was netted two minutes later. Jacob Mellis began and finished the move, playing out to Stoch who had switched to the right and then flicking the return in with his head from a position at the near post. Asked to play an unfamiliar wide position on the night, it was the 18-year-old third reserve goal of the season.

This time it took Villa less than two minutes to level, Hogg running from midfield untracked and into acres between the Chelsea defenders as a long ball came over from wide. The England Under 19 international controlled the ball out of Aldi Haxhia's reach and then slide home.

The 17-year-old Chelsea keeper was playing his first reserve game having only feature four times for the youth side. Rhys Taylor and Nic Heimann are both injured.

Haxhia, who was born in Kosovo but has been with Academy since the age of 14 suffered his own injury in trying to block the goal but after treatment continued.

Hogg blasted wide on the run as Villa threatened leading up to the break and then Haxhia charged out of his area as Delfouneso raced forward and upended the forward to earn a booking.

The free-kick from Bannan from the left was crisp but centrally aimed yet the Chelsea keeper at full-strength could only tip it onto the bar, centre-back Clark turning in the rebound for a 3-2 half-time lead for the home side.

Villa continued as the team on top at the start of the second half. Haxhia gathered a header on the run from Delfouneso on 57 minutes and Lee Sawyer picked up a booking for petulance having kicked the ball away a couple of minutes later after an Essien foul.

That was one of a succession of free-kicks conceded that were making it hard to escape the Chelsea half.

Carvalho was the first withdrawn having played an hour, Sawyer exiting a few moments later.

Carl Magnay, now back from loan at MK Dons, twisted his back and looked in jeopardy which with Carvalho off could have stretched resources but the Geordie soldered on.

There was a better moment for Chelsea approaching 70 minutes when a long ball from right-back Nana Ofori-Twumasi was collected by sub Adam Phillip. The timing of the run gave the new striker space but from distance he shot over.

Villa responded instantly and after manoeuvring outside a still-inhibited Magnay, Harewood smacked a cross-shot against the far post.

Essien gave further evidence for what a unique specimen he is when 77 minutes into his comeback, he made a 60-yard run, pass and supporting run but a wayward Mellis ball led to the attack breaking down.

The Villa fourth came on 81 minutes, the impressive Delfouneso smashing home after Bannan had capitalised on a stray Magnay pass.

In the 86thminute Essien was still going strong, surging past a midfield cover with a nutmeg and pulling the deficit back to one goal again with a low shot that deflected past Stuart Taylor off defender Clark.

Stoch almost caught the keeper out with two minutes remaining when his intended cross drifted towards the goalline. Chelsea were ending as we had begun. Mellis then stabbed a difficult chance wide from a deflected Van Aanholt cross while at the other end, Albrighton had a good effort deflected just inches over off Magnay

At the very death, Taylor in the Villa goal mishandled a Bridcutt shot as if the ball had been greased during a final spell of Chelsea pressure, but a goal to prevent victory would have been hard on this Villa performance.

Essien wasn't the only one to complete 90 minutes. Guus Hiddink and Ray Wilkins had made the journey to Villa Park and watched from the stands right up to the final whistle.


Chelsea Aldi Haxhia; Nana Ofori-Twumasi, Ricardo Carvalho (Tom Taiwo 60), Carl Magnay, Patrick van Aanholt; Lee Sawyer (Adam Phillip 62), Michael Essien, Liam Bridcutt (c); Jacob Mellis, Frank Nouble, Miroslav Stoch.

Villa Taylor; Lichaj, Bouma, Clark, Lowry; Hogg, Albrighton, Weimann (Williams 74), Bannan; Delfouneso (Collins 84), Harewood.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 03, 2009, 09:42:29 PM
Another effective performance for Hiddink's men tonight. With an attacking trio of Drogba, Kalou and Maloser there was never going to be much guile or invention. Only with the introduction of Quaresma did Chelsea show a bit of flair in the final third, and the Portugeezer was involved as Drogba finished well.

Keeps the run going, with Essien and Carvalho due back for our next league game.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: new devil on March 03, 2009, 10:33:12 PM
Drogba looks like a new man since big phill lefted..if he got his head right he would be 1 of the best strikers in the world...he even jumped straight back to his feet after getting pushed off the ball..in the past he would of acted like a sniper had hit him
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: nutsy--1 on March 04, 2009, 10:05:55 AM
Drogba is one of the best strikers in the world he's got all the qualities just lacks consistancy in the last seasons. he could guide Champions league glory if he keeps up these displays.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 04, 2009, 02:20:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 03, 2009, 09:55:29 PM
What are the complaints about the goal? Haven't seen it.

Has there been complaints about it? I thought at the time it would've been disalowed. Malouda was standing offside about a foot in front of James when Drogba shot.
A wee bit like how the Ireland goal was chalked off v Georgia. I think Doyle was blocking then.

I'd be crying for offside if it was the other way around.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 05, 2009, 12:46:05 PM
Everyones favourite Chelsea player in the news again...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7925963.stm
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: full back on March 05, 2009, 12:53:13 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on March 05, 2009, 12:46:05 PM
Everyones favourite Chelsea player in the news again...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7925963.stm

:D  :D
Cheryl is going to castrate him, especially with her climbing K2
I thought he wasnt allowed out of the house any more ???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 05, 2009, 04:51:58 PM
Great to see.

Cheryl doing her bit for comic relief, and Ashley for children in need.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 07, 2009, 08:29:32 AM
The big 'Blues news' this morning, is that there is a rumour that Michael Essien starts for Chelsea today. Seems to be very soon, but great to see the Bison back. His, and Carvalho's return, is offset by injuries to Anelka, Ferreria, and Deco. Ideally Hiddink would like to rest one or two here with Turin on Tuesday but at the same time he'll want to keep that 5 game winning streak going.

Likely Chelsea lineout;
                                          Cech
              Mancienne       Terry     Alex           Cole

                                       Belletti
                             Essien              Lampard

               Malouda                                     Quaresma
                                     Drogba

If Chelsea can get the game closed out early I'd say we'll see run outs for Di Santo, to rest Drogba and possibly Ivanovic into right back, Mancienne into the holding role allowing SFL to get a breather.

However I am taking nothing for granted after the hash Chelsea made of things 12 months back!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 07, 2009, 09:03:20 AM
Tell us this Norf, how the feck does Malouda continue to be picked??  As my Da would have said "He wouldn't get a game for Celtic 2nds" and he was talking about Belfast Celtic!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 07, 2009, 09:16:53 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on March 07, 2009, 09:03:20 AM
Tell us this Norf, how the feck does Malouda continue to be picked??  As my Da would have said "He wouldn't get a game for Celtic 2nds" and he was talking about Belfast Celtic!

I know he is a shocking footballer. There is not one Chelsea fan that rates him whatsoever. I don't remember one game where he was in the two or three players on the pitch, and I usually see something good in EVERY Chelsea player.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: gawa316 on March 07, 2009, 12:06:52 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 07, 2009, 08:29:32 AM
The big 'Blues news' this morning, is that there is a rumour that Michael Essien starts for Chelsea today. Seems to be very soon, but great to see the Bison back. His, and Carvalho's return, is offset by injuries to Anelka, Ferreria, and Deco. Ideally Hiddink would like to rest one or two here with Turin on Tuesday but at the same time he'll want to keep that 5 game winning streak going.

Likely Chelsea lineout;
                                          Cech
              Mancienne       Terry     Alex           Cole

                                       Belletti
                             Essien              Lampard

               Malouda                                     Quaresma
                                     Drogba

If Chelsea can get the game closed out early I'd say we'll see run outs for Di Santo, to rest Drogba and possibly Ivanovic into right back, Mancienne into the holding role allowing SFL to get a breather.

However I am taking nothing for granted after the hash Chelsea made of things 12 months back!

Essien on the bench
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 07, 2009, 07:32:51 PM
Professional performance by the Blues. Clean sheet, Drogs continues to get back to Drogness, Essien makes his comeback and ships a few confidence building hard challenges, no new injuries, the players looked like they were able to conserve themselves in the second half.... good days work.


Que sera, sera..............
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 10, 2009, 05:24:35 PM
Rumoured Chelsea line up...

                                  Big Pete

Bosingwa                JT           Alex               St Ashley

                                   Mikel

                Essien          Lamps             Ballack

                      Drogba            Anelka



Lacks width but looks very strong. I am just pissed off because my mates are all in Turin as I type. Flew to Nice yesterday morning, and took the train through the Alps this morning. W**kers. It was not overly dear, but could not afford the leave from work!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 10, 2009, 06:49:44 PM
That is now a CONFIRMED Chelsea starting XI. Definately Chelsea's strongest available 11, with the formation to suit them. Brave....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: anportmorforjfc on March 10, 2009, 08:34:37 PM
Chelsea equalise, luck lucky goal, just like moscow
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 10, 2009, 08:35:55 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on March 10, 2009, 08:34:37 PM
Chelsea equalise, luck lucky goal, just like moscow

F**k off. Ball hits bar, midfielder follows up to score. Did you just flick over and miss what had happened two minutes prior to the actual goal?????
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: anportmorforjfc on March 10, 2009, 08:36:55 PM
from what angle i seen didnt look like whole ball crossed the line
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: corn02 on March 10, 2009, 08:42:34 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on March 10, 2009, 08:36:55 PM
from what angle i seen didnt look like whole ball crossed the line

Are you just trolling all the threads tonight?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: stiffler on March 10, 2009, 08:43:40 PM
Important goal for essien, good to see him back.

A player that can be admired.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: corn02 on March 10, 2009, 08:45:00 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 10, 2009, 08:43:40 PM
Important goal for essien, good to see him back.

A player that can be admired.

Seconded, possibly my favourite top-four player (excluding Liverpool obviously).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: anportmorforjfc on March 10, 2009, 09:13:34 PM
send off for a brilliant tackle >:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: anportmorforjfc on March 10, 2009, 09:15:59 PM
2-1 juventus ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Minder on March 10, 2009, 09:16:34 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on March 10, 2009, 09:15:59 PM
2-1 juventus ;D

Didnt know you were a Juve fan
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 10, 2009, 09:28:43 PM
2-2 now  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 10, 2009, 09:41:09 PM
anportmorjfc thanks for gracing the thread tonight. However I don't think people can take your soccer posts seriously anymore after you comment following the FA Cup semi final draw on Sunday....  ;D

Quote from: anportmorforjfc on March 08, 2009, 07:50:26 PM
everton in the semi at home

Anyhow, the footballs over away to bed now... you've school in the morning.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: anportmorforjfc on March 10, 2009, 09:44:28 PM
f**k off norf, and i forgot the semis were at wembely
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 11, 2009, 10:06:00 AM
Great result for Chelsea.  Great to see the Bison back, a great player in about six diferent positions.  Still not playing scintillating football but I hope we're holding back that great performance for when we play that Spanish team from just up the road from Manchester! ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 15, 2009, 05:57:13 PM
Excellent performance from the Blues today, and should've made life a lot more comfortable for those fans of a nervous disposition. Drogba had a couple of good chances saved by the Donegal man, Ballack should've had one or two, Malouda cleared off the line, and Belletti hit the post. Some of the passing and moving had City chasing shawdows, and any time City got the ball forward the imperious JT cleared.

Today... Michael Essien was immense, and this was easilly Chelsea's best individual dispaly of the season. He tackled, shot, dribbled, passed, won everything. Awesome today. He deserved the luck for the goal.

Carvalho also got 90 minutes under his belt today too.


The only negative today was a season ending injury for Deco, and Drogba worringly limping off.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 16, 2009, 11:29:55 AM
Norf...unfortunately Deco's season finished after that free kick against Wigan in August!!  I've PM'ed you.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2009, 12:06:40 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on March 16, 2009, 11:29:55 AM
Norf...unfortunately Deco's season finished after that free kick against Wigan in August!!  I've PM'ed you.

Aye Deco flattered to deceive. I think the rough and tumble of the premiership didn't suit him. If the rest stay fit, no loss, but with him and JC missing we lack that certain bit of flair.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2009, 01:07:43 PM
Interesting take on Essien's performance yesterday  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjeooK5AkLs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjeooK5AkLs)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 16, 2009, 03:27:36 PM
Essien's been out for so long he forgets that's a yellow card offence ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 18, 2009, 11:06:20 PM
Anyone looking a good read?

At today's national book awards, Paul Cannoville's autobiography won autobiography of the year. The man's story is a litany of disasters.

Cannovile was the first coloured chap to play for Chelsea in the early 80s.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 18, 2009, 11:17:30 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2009, 01:07:43 PM
Interesting take on Essien's performance yesterday  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjeooK5AkLs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjeooK5AkLs)
Think the BBC will not be asking Pardew back for a while given the recent PC drive there...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7946964.stm
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 18, 2009, 11:21:47 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on March 18, 2009, 11:17:30 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2009, 01:07:43 PM
Interesting take on Essien's performance yesterday  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjeooK5AkLs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjeooK5AkLs)
Think the BBC will not be asking Pardew back for a while given the recent PC drive there...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7946964.stm

The poor fella has just shot any chance of a media career to pieces. People are too PC sensitive. Listen to Andy Gray or Motty say that Tevez/Arshavin/Drogba/ etc murders a defender or a team when they play well.
So murder is fine but rapes not.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 18, 2009, 11:25:10 PM
It was hardly of Big fat ron proportions right enough, but these Chelsea players just can't stay away from controversy it seems  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: corn02 on March 18, 2009, 11:33:58 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 18, 2009, 11:21:47 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on March 18, 2009, 11:17:30 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2009, 01:07:43 PM
Interesting take on Essien's performance yesterday  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjeooK5AkLs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjeooK5AkLs)
Think the BBC will not be asking Pardew back for a while given the recent PC drive there...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7946964.stm

The poor fella has just shot any chance of a media career to pieces. People are too PC sensitive. Listen to Andy Gray or Motty say that Tevez/Arshavin/Drogba/ etc murders a defender or a team when they play well.
So murder is fine but rapes not.

Seconded.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 18, 2009, 11:49:46 PM
Just when I see you Corn that reminds me....

... there could be a wee bit of controversy re Liverpool/ Chelsea/ Arsenal in a few weeks time. I believe that the FA have asked Chelsea and Arsenal to observe one minute's applause to commemorate the 20th anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster. The whispers are that this has been recieved with mixed emotions by the Chelsea fans at least. I have my own take on it, but some are objecting to the relevance to the teams involved, some are asking why there was no minute's applause in Oct 2006 for Matthew Harding's 10 year anniversary.
One of the main issues is from Chelsea old school, who still have adverse memories of Heysel. In the days after the Heyel tragedy, a lot of media sources blamed Chelsea fans for the trouble, and some believe that a lot of this was fed from Anfield to deflect blame. Remember Chelsea fans were the traditionally 'bad eggs' in them days. Some Chelsea fans were arrested in the days after the game, depsite the fact that the were in London when the disaster occured.

Although I'd respect that Hillsborough was a massive disaster for Liverpool, football and more importantly for the families concerned, it was Liverpool's tragedy and it's at best unwise for the FA to extend any form of rememberance to other clubs.

It'll be interesting to see how this pans out...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 21, 2009, 08:39:04 AM
Chelsea Vs Liverpool in Europe.
Chelsea 0-0 Liverpool (European Cup: 27-04-2005)
Liverpool 1-0 Chelsea (European Cup: 03-05-2005)
Liverpool 0-0 Chelsea (European Cup: 28-09-2005)
Chelsea 0-0 Liverpool (European Cup: 06-12-2005)
Chelsea 1-0 Liverpool (European Cup: 25-04-2007)
Liverpool 1-0 Chelsea (European Cup: 01-05-2007)
Liverpool 1-1 Chelsea (European Cup: 22-04-2008)
Chelsea 3-2 Liverpool (European Cup: 30-04-2008)

Liverpool wins: 2
Chelsea wins: 2
Draws: 4

The stats show how close these ties have been over the last few years, with Liverpool's penalty win giving them the slightest edge. The games usually hinge on the slightest error by players, managers and officials when we consider the infamous 'ghost goal', Riise's og, and Agger's controversial free kick winner.
Can't see things being too different this time.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: charlie stubbs on March 21, 2009, 01:02:09 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on March 10, 2009, 09:44:28 PM
f**k off norf, and i forgot the semis were at wembely

when was the lasttime a team go home advantage for the semis of fa cup?  they always are at a neutral ground
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: The Watcher Pat on March 21, 2009, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 21, 2009, 08:39:04 AM
Chelsea Vs Liverpool in Europe.
Chelsea 0-0 Liverpool (European Cup: 27-04-2005)
Liverpool 1-0 Chelsea (European Cup: 03-05-2005)
Liverpool 0-0 Chelsea (European Cup: 28-09-2005)
Chelsea 0-0 Liverpool (European Cup: 06-12-2005)
Chelsea 1-0 Liverpool (European Cup: 25-04-2007)
Liverpool 1-0 Chelsea (European Cup: 01-05-2007)
Liverpool 1-1 Chelsea (European Cup: 22-04-2008)
Chelsea 3-2 Liverpool (European Cup: 30-04-2008)

Liverpool wins: 2
Chelsea wins: 2
Draws: 4

The stats show how close these ties have been over the last few years, with Liverpool's penalty win giving them the slightest edge. The games usually hinge on the slightest error by players, managers and officials when we consider the infamous 'ghost goal', Riise's og, and Agger's controversial free kick winner.
Can't see things being too different this time.


10 goals in 8 games....should be a real thriller that tie...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 22, 2009, 04:39:41 PM
Not much to be said about yesterday. A real opportunity blew. The frustrating part was sitting in a bar with Chelsea and United games on and knowing that the Mancs were blowing it. Chelsea had no tempo or rhythm yesterday, with perhaps the 30 minute delay affecting them, but these things happen.

No Chelsea player emerged with any credit yesterday, despite the Blues edging the opportunities, and having a good penalty shout turned down. The only decent skill all day was Modric's shot. Typical of Gomes to have arguably his best Spurs performance yesterday.

Time to conentrate on the cups.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 23, 2009, 01:02:09 PM
Anelka out for 3 weeks  :(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 23, 2009, 02:05:57 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 23, 2009, 01:02:09 PM
Anelka out for 3 weeks  :(
Prob not bad news in a way though?  Him or Drogba had to be dropped anyway, so this forces the goose's hand now so to speak, you just need to hope Drogba can discover some form (the irony, a Villa man advising a Chelsea fan on how to find some form!)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 23, 2009, 11:44:19 PM
We're going to win the league....

http://www.rightresult.net/index.php (http://www.rightresult.net/index.php)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: mrsandman on March 24, 2009, 01:21:20 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 23, 2009, 11:44:19 PM
We're going to win the league....

http://www.rightresult.net/index.php (http://www.rightresult.net/index.php)

United have a game in hand
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Minder on March 27, 2009, 01:11:35 PM
Terrys Ma nicked for shoplifting, maybe it should be in the "Things that make you go What The F*ck" thread...........
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: EC Unique on March 27, 2009, 02:34:28 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 27, 2009, 01:11:35 PM
Terrys Ma nicked for shoplifting, maybe it should be in the "Things that make you go What The F*ck" thread...........


QuoteSOCCER hero John Terry's mum and mother-in-law were allegedly caught loading £800-worth of stolen store goods into a car.
Sue Terry, 50, and Sue Poole, 54, were nicked and officially cautioned by cops for shoplifting clothes and food from Marks & Spencer and Tesco.

By accepting the caution, they formally acknowledged their guilt.

The incident is a huge embarrassment to Chelsea and England skipper Terry, 28, and to the FA.

Tesco is the official England supermarket and M&S supplies suits to the England squad. One of the vice-presidents for England's 2018 World Cup bid is Tesco chief executive Sir Terry Leahy.


Track suits were among the gear the women are said to have taken at the Brooklands Shopping Centre in Weybridge, Surrey.


Police were called by security staff at 3pm on Wednesday and the pair were taken to Staines police station, Middlesex.


Defender Terry earns £135,000-a-week, plus bonuses and huge sums from sponsorship deals.

His mum and mother-in-law live jet-set lives thanks to his huge wealth. They have have been flown all over the world at Terry's expense to watch him play, including at the 2006 World Cup finals in Germany.

Terry also bought both women detached houses in the exclusive street in Oxshott, Surrey, where he and wife Toni, 26, live with twins Georgie and Summer, two. The leafy drive is famously known as "Terry Street".

A source said last night: "Everyone was gobsmacked when the police realised they had arrested John Terry's mum and mum-in-law.


"They're women who want for nothing, yet they were accused of taking cheap gear without paying. They seemed at a loss to explain.

"One said she had no idea why she'd taken sports gear as she didn't even like wearing the stuff. They seemed shaken up."

Another source said the women loaded their car with goods from M&S but were stopped when they went back to Tesco for more.

A source close to Terry said: "This will come as a terrible shock to John. His mum has never done anything like this before.

"It would be easier if he had the first idea why it happened."

A Surrey Police spokesman said last night: "Cautions are usually applied for more minor matters, when it is a first time offence.

"A caution represents an admission of guilt and forms part of a criminal record. Officers arrested two women aged 50 and 54, both from Oxshott, on suspicion of theft.



"This followed reports of shoplifting. The women were interviewed in custody and have been cautioned for the offences."

Terry's lawyer Angus McBride insisted the pair were entirely innocent and were victims of an "unfortunate misunderstanding".

Mr McBride said they would not have agreed to be cautioned had they realised they were admitting guilt and will be taking legal action to clear their names.

He added: "They didn't do anything wrong. They didn't have legal advice and weren't aware they were admitting guilt."

Terry has worked hard on his image in recent years but was once a notorious boozer and womaniser, reported to have had EIGHT flings behind Toni's back.



:D :D  Hilarious
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 30, 2009, 02:51:08 PM
What!!?!?? I thougt AC had signed him permenantly!!

Shevchenko expects Chelsea return at season end
30.03.09 | tribalfootball.com
AC Milan striker Andriy Shevchenko expects to return to parent club Chelsea at the end of the season.

"I don't regret anything," he said. "I needed to refresh myself physically and that's what I've done at Milan.

"I haven't been used but I have made myself available. When I returned I said that I would have accepted anything.

"I knew no-one would do me any favours, and I knew that I would be the last striker in the team.

"I'll behave as a professional until the end, then I'll return to London.

"I'll live in London but I don't know where football will take me next season. I'll speak to Chelsea and we'll make a decision.

"I have confidence in myself."
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 30, 2009, 03:15:46 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 30, 2009, 02:51:08 PM
What!!?!?? I thougt AC had signed him permenantly!!

Shevchenko expects Chelsea return at season end
30.03.09 | tribalfootball.com
AC Milan striker Andriy Shevchenko expects to return to parent club Chelsea at the end of the season.

"I don't regret anything," he said. "I needed to refresh myself physically and that's what I've done at Milan.

"I haven't been used but I have made myself available. When I returned I said that I would have accepted anything.

"I knew no-one would do me any favours, and I knew that I would be the last striker in the team.

"I'll behave as a professional until the end, then I'll return to London.

"I'll live in London but I don't know where football will take me next season. I'll speak to Chelsea and we'll make a decision.

"I have confidence in myself."


I don't see the problem Norf...he'll be a great addition to the thirds!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 03, 2009, 10:13:03 PM
Probably the worst time to go to the Toon tomorrow. The Geordies will be up for it, and there players will improve 20% on where they've been. I think Hiddink has 'almost' give up on the league, so we will have one eye on Wednesday.
In addition Drogba and Bosingwa have got injured, and Anelka is doubtful!

:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2009, 09:38:31 AM
A very professional performance by Chelsea on Saturday who bagged a couple of well earned points, as the anticapated Toon atmosphere evaporated in the air.

So to Wednesday. Is it just me or is there a distinct lack of hype about this game this season. It's probably because Liverpool, and to a lesser degree Chelsea are still involved in the League and this has not give the game a chance to build up a head of steam, but more likely due to the fact that this fixture now has a bit of a tired look about it. In reality it needs Benitez to slag someone off, or Drogba to denounce all Scousers. Something to get the blood boiling.

However I'd take a guess that come Wednesday night the nerves will be frayed as normal. Liverpool go into this one on a real crest, albeit the Premier League form guide has them behind Chelsea. The quandry for Rafa and Guus is how to approach it.

I'd like to see Chelsea keep a tight reign on Gerard, but be positive at the same time. Going into the game the Blues will field without Joey Cole, and have big doubts over Carvalho, Bosingwa and Drogba. Out of that lot, Drogba and Carvalho would be big losses. Alex has done well this season, but he is prone to the odd slip or error. At RB IVanovic would provide a more defensive cover to Bosingwa and might by default be the better option for an away leg game regardless. In addition I'd perhaps employ Essien to follow Gerard everywhere. Up top, I just hope that Drogba is fit. Last season the Liverpool defence could not handle him, and this could cause Skertl and Carragher to drop a wee bit off him, and allow the big lad to turn on the ball. Malouda and Kalou have been poor again this year, however no real alternative exists. Malouda coincidentally had one of his better games on Saturday past.... but we've been here before.

Rafa no doubt will draw strength from Liverpool's two victories over Chelsea this season, and there is no doubt that over the games they were the better side. However hopefully canny Hiddink will get the bones of those two results into the player's psyche. Liverpool's winner at Stamford Br was an own goal, and the late Torres double came after Chelsea had Lampard wrongly sent off, with Gerard lucky to be still on the field.

My team would be:

                                     Cech
Ivanovic              JT              Carvalho or Alex      Ashley Cole

                                   Mikel

                        Essien           Lampard

             Kalou            Drogba               Malouda       
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 08, 2009, 10:16:27 AM
More stats than you can shake a stick at...

http://www.uefa.com/printoutfiles/competitions/ucl/2009/e/e_302803_pk.pdf (http://www.uefa.com/printoutfiles/competitions/ucl/2009/e/e_302803_pk.pdf)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 08, 2009, 06:40:43 PM
       Cech

Ivan Terry Alex Cole

Ballack Essien Lampard

Kalou Drogba Malouda
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: AZOffaly on April 08, 2009, 10:17:57 PM
Congrats tonight Norf. Well deserved, and could have been much more. No complaints at all.

Hopefully Liverpool can do an Old Trafford on ye in the second leg, but ye are deserving favourites now. Top notch.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 08, 2009, 10:22:26 PM
Gutted but the best team by far on the night won.  Hiddink outsmarted Rafa and the workrate of Chelsea was unreal.  Miracles sometimes happen but I reckon that the CL is over for this season. :'(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 09, 2009, 09:53:00 AM
Chelsea's best 90 mins since the halcyon days under The Special One (actually the best 80 mins as in the first 10 mins we were all over the shop).  We did not panic after the first goal (great play by Kuyt but Torres had 2 free yards in the middle of the box!) but managed to play our way back into the match, helped it has to be said by Liverpool constantly giving the ball away and/or being caught in possession in the midfield (Lucas was woeful)  If Drogba had've taken his chances we could have scored six.  Credit to Malouda who I've ripped apart all season but he played his best match for us last night.  I know Ivanovic isn't our best known player but there was no need for Liverpool to totally ignore him at corners.  Back four were really good, to use an old fashioned phrase they fairly let Torres "know they were there". Essien totally had the "legendary" $tevie Me in his pocket, Drogba looked liked the player he was two seasons ago (albeit he missed a couple of sitters).  Lampard made a couple of uncharacteristic errors but other than that he was Lampard.  Even Ballack looked interested though a passenger liner could still turn quicker than him.  It's not over yet but we're definitely in the driving seat with a full tank of diesel and clear road ahead of us....Barca looked scary though :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 09, 2009, 10:01:07 AM
Did anyone else get the impression Andy Gray cannot stand Drogba?  Seemed to be on him all night until he scored that is.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 09, 2009, 10:03:01 AM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on April 09, 2009, 10:01:07 AM
Did anyone else get the impression Andy Gray cannot stand Drogba?  Seemed to be on him all night until he scored that is.

That's strange as I think Drogba speaks very highly of Andy ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: The GAA on April 09, 2009, 10:45:50 AM

Hats off to chelsea - fantastic performance. i'd disagree abot the reference to JM's halcion days - i don't believe mourinho's teams ever played like that, full throttle for 90 minutes. the pressure chelsea pressed onto the liverpool defensive midfielders was the key. they weren't allowed set anything up and two key things followed from there: 1) gerarrd never got a pass in a decent position the whole night, and 2) the back 4 had to play too much football and proved they weren't capable. The blueprint is simple to knock liverpool out of their stride.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Minder on April 09, 2009, 10:52:09 AM
Quote from: The GAA on April 09, 2009, 10:45:50 AM

Hats off to chelsea - fantastic performance. i'd disagree abot the reference to JM's halcion days - i don't believe mourinho's teams ever played like that, full throttle for 90 minutes. the pressure chelsea pressed onto the liverpool defensive midfielders was the key. they weren't allowed set anything up and two key things followed from there: 1) gerarrd never got a pass in a decent position the whole night, and 2) the back 4 had to play too much football and proved they weren't capable. The blueprint is simple to knock liverpool out of their stride.

Is there another player in the EPL that would be able to man mark Gerrard with the success Essien did?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 09, 2009, 10:55:21 AM
Quote from: The GAA on April 09, 2009, 10:45:50 AM

Hats off to chelsea - fantastic performance. i'd disagree abot the reference to JM's halcion days - i don't believe mourinho's teams ever played like that, full throttle for 90 minutes. the pressure chelsea pressed onto the liverpool defensive midfielders was the key. they weren't allowed set anything up and two key things followed from there: 1) gerarrd never got a pass in a decent position the whole night, and 2) the back 4 had to play too much football and proved they weren't capable. The blueprint is simple to knock liverpool out of their stride.

In Mourinho's first year in charge we played some great stuff.  But I will agree from then on it was downhill.  Managed to win a second league paying some mediocre stuff.

Second point I will agree.  Expect to see Sam Allardyce learn something for Saturday!  Nullify Gerrard and Torres and Liverpool are a mid table side.

The best part for me was hearing the voices of all the Chelsea hating, Liverpool supporting 5Live commentators!!  This morning Mike Ingham sounded like the world was about to end.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: new devil on April 09, 2009, 10:56:01 AM
Hargreaves had him in his pocket twice last year
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Minder on April 09, 2009, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 09, 2009, 10:55:21 AM
Quote from: The GAA on April 09, 2009, 10:45:50 AM

Hats off to chelsea - fantastic performance. i'd disagree abot the reference to JM's halcion days - i don't believe mourinho's teams ever played like that, full throttle for 90 minutes. the pressure chelsea pressed onto the liverpool defensive midfielders was the key. they weren't allowed set anything up and two key things followed from there: 1) gerarrd never got a pass in a decent position the whole night, and 2) the back 4 had to play too much football and proved they weren't capable. The blueprint is simple to knock liverpool out of their stride.

In Mourinho's first year in charge we played some great stuff.  But I will agree from then on it was downhill.  Managed to win a second league paying some mediocre stuff.

Second point I will agree.  Expect to see Sam Allardyce learn something for Saturday!  Nullify Gerrard and Torres and Liverpool are a mid table side.

The best part for me was hearing the voices of all the Chelsea hating, Liverpool supporting 5Live commentators!!  This morning Mike Ingham sounded like the world was about to end.

Is this a new phenomenom, the importance of Torres and Gerrard? It is one thing knowing that you have to stop a player and actually doing it. As for Torres they won plenty of games this year when he was injured. i remember beating United without either of them.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: corn02 on April 09, 2009, 11:06:26 AM
Fair play to Chelsea.

GAA your point about Liverpool's back four not being capable is nonsense. Aurelio, Skrtl and Arbeloa are all excellent ball carriers and very comfortable in possession and are good passers. They just happened to have a bad night.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: new devil on April 09, 2009, 11:10:37 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 09, 2009, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 09, 2009, 10:55:21 AM
Quote from: The GAA on April 09, 2009, 10:45:50 AM

Hats off to chelsea - fantastic performance. i'd disagree abot the reference to JM's halcion days - i don't believe mourinho's teams ever played like that, full throttle for 90 minutes. the pressure chelsea pressed onto the liverpool defensive midfielders was the key. they weren't allowed set anything up and two key things followed from there: 1) gerarrd never got a pass in a decent position the whole night, and 2) the back 4 had to play too much football and proved they weren't capable. The blueprint is simple to knock liverpool out of their stride.

In Mourinho's first year in charge we played some great stuff.  But I will agree from then on it was downhill.  Managed to win a second league paying some mediocre stuff.

Second point I will agree.  Expect to see Sam Allardyce learn something for Saturday!  Nullify Gerrard and Torres and Liverpool are a mid table side.

The best part for me was hearing the voices of all the Chelsea hating, Liverpool supporting 5Live commentators!!  This morning Mike Ingham sounded like the world was about to end.

Is this a new phenomenom, the importance of Torres and Gerrard? It is one thing knowing that you have to stop a player and actually doing it. As for Torres they won plenty of games this year when he was injured. i remember beating United without either of them.

Take the two best players out of any team in the world and there would be a huge difference..look at united last sunday...missing rooney and vidic and they were horrible
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: corn02 on April 09, 2009, 11:17:21 AM
Quote from: new devil on April 09, 2009, 11:10:37 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 09, 2009, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 09, 2009, 10:55:21 AM
Quote from: The GAA on April 09, 2009, 10:45:50 AM

Hats off to chelsea - fantastic performance. i'd disagree abot the reference to JM's halcion days - i don't believe mourinho's teams ever played like that, full throttle for 90 minutes. the pressure chelsea pressed onto the liverpool defensive midfielders was the key. they weren't allowed set anything up and two key things followed from there: 1) gerarrd never got a pass in a decent position the whole night, and 2) the back 4 had to play too much football and proved they weren't capable. The blueprint is simple to knock liverpool out of their stride.

In Mourinho's first year in charge we played some great stuff.  But I will agree from then on it was downhill.  Managed to win a second league paying some mediocre stuff.

Second point I will agree.  Expect to see Sam Allardyce learn something for Saturday!  Nullify Gerrard and Torres and Liverpool are a mid table side.

The best part for me was hearing the voices of all the Chelsea hating, Liverpool supporting 5Live commentators!!  This morning Mike Ingham sounded like the world was about to end.

Is this a new phenomenom, the importance of Torres and Gerrard? It is one thing knowing that you have to stop a player and actually doing it. As for Torres they won plenty of games this year when he was injured. i remember beating United without either of them.

Take the two best players out of any team in the world and there would be a huge difference..look at united last sunday...missing rooney and vidic and they were horrible

Yes obviously.

I am missing the point here I think? Essien done a good job on SG, but of course he got very little ball into him. Teams have dropped men back on Gerrard before and it hasn;t work. Just because he didn;t skin Essien it doesn't mean he is a poor player.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: new devil on April 09, 2009, 11:26:47 AM
Think hes trying to say essien is one of the best man markers about...and would have to agree with that
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: The GAA on April 09, 2009, 11:30:51 AM

The back 4 were horrible in possession last night. how many times were they caught on the ball or simply row Zd it?

Gerarrd hasn't been man marked too often but it obviously can, and now will, be done. however, the key element of chelsea's gaem plan, which i have not seen done effectivey thins season, was lampard and the german pressing alonso and to a lesser extent lucas to force the back 4 to start moves.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Declan on April 09, 2009, 11:42:20 AM
That was as good a performance from Chelsea last night as I've seen from any team. Excellent stuff all round and completely outplayed Liverpool. If they continue to play like that they'll be hard to beat even by Barca
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: corn02 on April 09, 2009, 11:44:38 AM
Quote from: The GAA on April 09, 2009, 11:30:51 AM

The back 4 were horrible in possession last night. how many times were they caught on the ball or simply row Zd it?

Gerarrd hasn't been man marked too often but it obviously can, and now will, be done. however, the key element of chelsea's gaem plan, which i have not seen done effectivey thins season, was lampard and the german pressing alonso and to a lesser extent lucas to force the back 4 to start moves.

No arguments that they were terrible, but as I say they ha d bad night and have proven themselves as great ball carriers throughout the season.

Mascherano was a big loss no doubt.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 09, 2009, 11:47:58 AM
Quote from: new devil on April 09, 2009, 11:10:37 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 09, 2009, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 09, 2009, 10:55:21 AM
Quote from: The GAA on April 09, 2009, 10:45:50 AM

Hats off to chelsea - fantastic performance. i'd disagree abot the reference to JM's halcion days - i don't believe mourinho's teams ever played like that, full throttle for 90 minutes. the pressure chelsea pressed onto the liverpool defensive midfielders was the key. they weren't allowed set anything up and two key things followed from there: 1) gerarrd never got a pass in a decent position the whole night, and 2) the back 4 had to play too much football and proved they weren't capable. The blueprint is simple to knock liverpool out of their stride.

In Mourinho's first year in charge we played some great stuff.  But I will agree from then on it was downhill.  Managed to win a second league paying some mediocre stuff.

Second point I will agree.  Expect to see Sam Allardyce learn something for Saturday!  Nullify Gerrard and Torres and Liverpool are a mid table side.

The best part for me was hearing the voices of all the Chelsea hating, Liverpool supporting 5Live commentators!!  This morning Mike Ingham sounded like the world was about to end.

Is this a new phenomenom, the importance of Torres and Gerrard? It is one thing knowing that you have to stop a player and actually doing it. As for Torres they won plenty of games this year when he was injured. i remember beating United without either of them.

Take the two best players out of any team in the world and there would be a huge difference..look at united last sunday...missing rooney and vidic and they were horrible

Chelsea were without Carvalho and Anelka (top scorer in the Prem)...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Billys Boots on April 09, 2009, 11:51:39 AM
Chelsea, with Essien playing well, are a formidable outfit - they really, really missed him for most of this season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 09, 2009, 11:58:10 AM
QuoteChelsea, with Essien playing well, are a formidable outfit - they really, really missed him for most of this season.

Agree with that, I know a few of us rate him highly here but outside Chelsea he doesn't seem to get the plaudits he deserves, one of the 1st names in my Premeirship XI..
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: corn02 on April 09, 2009, 12:04:30 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 09, 2009, 11:58:10 AM
QuoteChelsea, with Essien playing well, are a formidable outfit - they really, really missed him for most of this season.

Agree with that, I know a few of us rate him highly here but outside Chelsea he doesn't seem to get the plaudits he deserves, one of the 1st names in my Premeirship XI..

I know most Liverpool fans I ever talk to rate him as high as you would.

An absolute class act.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 09, 2009, 12:18:13 PM
Sorry should have qualified that, the English media don't seem to rate him or maybe that's my perception but Chelsea would have been closer to the top if had been available all season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: magpie seanie on April 09, 2009, 12:18:32 PM
Essien is a proper all round midfielder. I would say the best in the world in that position. They don't make them like that any more.

Thought JT was very unlucky to be booked but as it happens the second leg might be not the worst game to miss.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 09, 2009, 03:39:47 PM
As I said after the game last night

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on April 08, 2009, 09:36:44 PM
There's a reason why Chelsea aren't top of the table by a mile

that reason - the fella in the blue shirt wearing #5 being injured all season
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 09, 2009, 04:21:28 PM
Quote from: The GAA on April 09, 2009, 11:30:51 AM

The back 4 were horrible in possession last night. how many times were they caught on the ball or simply row Zd it?

Gerarrd hasn't been man marked too often but it obviously can, and now will, be done.

Not everyone has Essien though to do that. He has the combination of power and pace to keep up with Gerrard. I don't see too many others in the Premier League who could do it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: corn02 on April 09, 2009, 04:54:03 PM
Is Norf still too hungover? I thought he would have appeared by now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 09, 2009, 08:17:05 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 09, 2009, 11:47:58 AM
Quote from: new devil on April 09, 2009, 11:10:37 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 09, 2009, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 09, 2009, 10:55:21 AM
Quote from: The GAA on April 09, 2009, 10:45:50 AM

Hats off to chelsea - fantastic performance. i'd disagree abot the reference to JM's halcion days - i don't believe mourinho's teams ever played like that, full throttle for 90 minutes. the pressure chelsea pressed onto the liverpool defensive midfielders was the key. they weren't allowed set anything up and two key things followed from there: 1) gerarrd never got a pass in a decent position the whole night, and 2) the back 4 had to play too much football and proved they weren't capable. The blueprint is simple to knock liverpool out of their stride.

In Mourinho's first year in charge we played some great stuff.  But I will agree from then on it was downhill.  Managed to win a second league paying some mediocre stuff.

Second point I will agree.  Expect to see Sam Allardyce learn something for Saturday!  Nullify Gerrard and Torres and Liverpool are a mid table side.

The best part for me was hearing the voices of all the Chelsea hating, Liverpool supporting 5Live commentators!!  This morning Mike Ingham sounded like the world was about to end.

Is this a new phenomenom, the importance of Torres and Gerrard? It is one thing knowing that you have to stop a player and actually doing it. As for Torres they won plenty of games this year when he was injured. i remember beating United without either of them.

Take the two best players out of any team in the world and there would be a huge difference..look at united last sunday...missing rooney and vidic and they were horrible

Chelsea were without Carvalho and Anelka (top scorer in the Prem)...
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hats off to chelsea great performance tie appears be dead but hears hoping.  cant take this point seriously it was hiddinks choice not to play anelka and possibly carvalho think he on bech but could be wrong
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 10, 2009, 01:14:21 AM
Not a bad night.  ;D

An absoloutely power house of a performance from Chelsea, and definately the high point of the season. When I seen the starting XI, I was concerned about the apparent lack of a holding midfielder. I knew that Essien could do a job on Gerrard, but was worried that Kuyt, Torres or someone else would drop a little and find a hole between Chelsea's defence and midfield. Indeed when Torres was left to his own devices so early on, I worried.

However it was the best thing that happened Chelsea and they came back at Liverpool with a vengance. When Drogba missed those two chances I was not overly worried, as I thought that Liverpool loked ropey and the space afforded to the Ivorian suggested a degree of fear. Great to see big Ivanfield getting his reward for being very patient this season with two thumping headers.

There were very few under par performances in the Chelsea side. The back four were solid, with Ashley Cole in particular catching the eye. Essien's negating of Gerard has been praised to death on here, and I can only echo that praise. Lampard also sat on Alonso's heels and did not allow him to dictate. The amount of time the Liverpool defenders had to lump the ball to no one in particular, as the had not got the outlet of Alonso to pass to, ran into double figures.

Drogba also worked his socks off, not before time, but special praise for Florent Malouda. Worked hard, tracked back and worked the space. Capped it all with a great cross for the third.

I am not totally sold on the 'we are through' argument, but one giant leap to the semi final was made on Wednesday evening as another bit of 'eesttoree' was made by the boys in blue. If that's the case thanks to Reina, Gerard and co for getting JT's booking out of the way.

And another thing.... the 'famous atmosphere' was missing on Wednesday too strangely despite Liverpool's recent good form.


KTBFFH
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 10, 2009, 01:38:34 AM
Not gloating... but absoloutely love this photo.

(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00777/01_brancele_682x400_777463a.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 09:17:53 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 10, 2009, 01:14:21 AM


And another thing.... the 'famous atmosphere' was missing on Wednesday too strangely despite Liverpool's recent good form.



A Chelsea fan giving off about Liverpool's atmosphere?  :D Now that's irony.

There was a great atmpsohere on Wednesday, obviously it died down at 3-1 but YNWA still sung at the end. In Stamford Bridge the abuse would have rained down en masse, and the stands would have been empty.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: EC Unique on April 10, 2009, 09:39:13 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 09:17:53 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 10, 2009, 01:14:21 AM


And another thing.... the 'famous atmosphere' was missing on Wednesday too strangely despite Liverpool's recent good form.



A Chelsea fan giving off about Liverpool's atmosphere?  :D Now that's irony.

There was a great atmpsohere on Wednesday, obviously it died down at 3-1 but YNWA still sung at the end. In Stamford Bridge the abuse would have rained down en masse, and the stands would have been empty.



Be some craic if Liverpool fans left the ground every time things were not going their way... It would be like musical chairs :D But of course they don't because they are the best fans in the world ::)... Nothing to do with the fact that they are used to dissapointment and try to cheer themselves up with a pathetic little song that they think is some sort of allegiance but the rest of the league just cringe and have a little snigger ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 09:49:02 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on April 10, 2009, 09:39:13 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 09:17:53 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 10, 2009, 01:14:21 AM


And another thing.... the 'famous atmosphere' was missing on Wednesday too strangely despite Liverpool's recent good form.



A Chelsea fan giving off about Liverpool's atmosphere?  :D Now that's irony.

There was a great atmpsohere on Wednesday, obviously it died down at 3-1 but YNWA still sung at the end. In Stamford Bridge the abuse would have rained down en masse, and the stands would have been empty.



Be some craic if Liverpool fans left the ground every time things were not going their way... It would be like musical chairs :D But of course they don't because they are the best fans in the world ::)... Nothing to do with the fact that they are used to dissapointment and try to cheer themselves up with a pathetic little song that they think is some sort of allegiance but the rest of the league just cringe and have a little snigger ;D


You do actaully realise that Liverpool are the most successful team in England don't you?


You can talk about sniggering all you want. Fact is Liverpool players admit to be inspired about it so you can laugh all you want.

The truth is your jealous that Liverpool fans show a bit of support while United fans exit en Masse and get the first flight back to Asia.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: EC Unique on April 10, 2009, 09:56:45 AM
When I blow the dust off the old history books I can see that you are certainly right but I stand by my comment that Liverpool fans must be used to dissapointment when you consider that they have only had one significant title in 20 odd years ;)

I know if this was the case at Utd I would be very disappointed... but of course it is not ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 09:57:44 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on April 10, 2009, 09:56:45 AM
When I blow the dust off the old history books I can see that you are certainly right but I stand by my comment that Liverpool fans must be used to dissapointment when you consider that they have only had one significant title in 20 odd years ;)

I know if this was the case at Utd I would be very disappointed... but of course it is not ;D

So what your saying is 'yes, Liverpool are the most successful team in England'. Apology accepted.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: mrsandman on April 10, 2009, 10:19:30 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 09:57:44 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on April 10, 2009, 09:56:45 AM
When I blow the dust off the old history books I can see that you are certainly right but I stand by my comment that Liverpool fans must be used to dissapointment when you consider that they have only had one significant title in 20 odd years ;)

I know if this was the case at Utd I would be very disappointed... but of course it is not ;D

So what your saying is 'yes, Liverpool are the most successful team in Europe'. Apology accepted.

Not in the last year, no
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: thebigfella on April 10, 2009, 10:30:45 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 09:57:44 AM
The truth is your jealous that Liverpool fans show a bit of support while United fans exit en Masse and get the first flight back to Asia.

I assuming your from Liverpool then are have pretty definitive lineage connecting yourself to the city, never mind LFC? If not then what's the difference between that and leaving Anfield and getting on a flight to Dublin or Belfast?

Quote from: EC Unique on April 10, 2009, 09:56:45 AM
So what your saying is 'yes, Liverpool are the most successful team in Europe'.

If your defining the criteria for being the most successful in England by trophies won and the history books then by the same criteria should apply to Europe.
Real Madrid are therefore the most successful team in Europe.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 10:34:41 AM
Quote from: thebigfella on April 10, 2009, 10:30:45 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 09:57:44 AM
The truth is your jealous that Liverpool fans show a bit of support while United fans exit en Masse and get the first flight back to Asia.

I assuming your from Liverpool then are have pretty definitive lineage connecting yourself to the city, never mind LFC? If not then what's the difference between that and leaving Anfield and getting on a flight to Dublin or Belfast?

Quote from: EC Unique on April 10, 2009, 09:56:45 AM
So what your saying is 'yes, Liverpool are the most successful team in Europe'.

If your defining the criteria for being the most successful in England by trophies won and the history books then by the same criteria should apply to Europe.
Real Madrid are therefore the most successful team in Europe.

Who brought Europe into it?  ;)

As a matter of fact I actually do have relatives from Liverpool.

Anywhoooo, the Asia thing is a joke that gets betted around, don;t let it wind you up as much.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: thebigfella on April 10, 2009, 10:39:16 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 10:34:41 AM
Quote from: thebigfella on April 10, 2009, 10:30:45 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 09:57:44 AM
The truth is your jealous that Liverpool fans show a bit of support while United fans exit en Masse and get the first flight back to Asia.

I assuming your from Liverpool then are have pretty definitive lineage connecting yourself to the city, never mind LFC? If not then what's the difference between that and leaving Anfield and getting on a flight to Dublin or Belfast?

Quote from: EC Unique on April 10, 2009, 09:56:45 AM
So what your saying is 'yes, Liverpool are the most successful team in Europe'.

If your defining the criteria for being the most successful in England by trophies won and the history books then by the same criteria should apply to Europe.
Real Madrid are therefore the most successful team in Europe.

Who brought Europe into it?  ;)

As a matter of fact I actually do have relatives from Liverpool.

Anywhoooo, the Asia thing is a joke that gets betted around, don;t let it wind you up as much.

I seen that quick little edit  :)

It didn't wind me up and anyhow we all know they get on trains and go back to 'that London'.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 10:43:37 AM
Quote from: thebigfella on April 10, 2009, 10:39:16 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 10:34:41 AM
Quote from: thebigfella on April 10, 2009, 10:30:45 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 09:57:44 AM
The truth is your jealous that Liverpool fans show a bit of support while United fans exit en Masse and get the first flight back to Asia.

I assuming your from Liverpool then are have pretty definitive lineage connecting yourself to the city, never mind LFC? If not then what's the difference between that and leaving Anfield and getting on a flight to Dublin or Belfast?

Quote from: EC Unique on April 10, 2009, 09:56:45 AM
So what your saying is 'yes, Liverpool are the most successful team in Europe'.

If your defining the criteria for being the most successful in England by trophies won and the history books then by the same criteria should apply to Europe.
Real Madrid are therefore the most successful team in Europe.

Who brought Europe into it?  ;)

As a matter of fact I actually do have relatives from Liverpool.

Anywhoooo, the Asia thing is a joke that gets betted around, don;t let it wind you up as much.

I seen that quick little edit  :)

It didn't wide me up and anyhow we all know they get on trains and go back to 'that London'.

The edit button is a great thing.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 10, 2009, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 09:17:53 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 10, 2009, 01:14:21 AM


And another thing.... the 'famous atmosphere' was missing on Wednesday too strangely despite Liverpool's recent good form.



A Chelsea fan giving off about Liverpool's atmosphere?  :D Now that's irony.

There was a great atmpsohere on Wednesday, obviously it died down at 3-1 but YNWA still sung at the end. In Stamford Bridge the abuse would have rained down en masse, and the stands would have been empty.



Giving off is the wrong word. However when it's used all the time, 'special European nights', 'that Anfield atmosphere' etc etc it becomes boring. Especially when, from personal experience, it can be a myth at times. On Wednesday before the game, YNWA was blasting out, but the Chelsea fans were coming over loud and clear.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 12:10:37 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 10, 2009, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 09:17:53 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 10, 2009, 01:14:21 AM


And another thing.... the 'famous atmosphere' was missing on Wednesday too strangely despite Liverpool's recent good form.



A Chelsea fan giving off about Liverpool's atmosphere?  :D Now that's irony.

There was a great atmpsohere on Wednesday, obviously it died down at 3-1 but YNWA still sung at the end. In Stamford Bridge the abuse would have rained down en masse, and the stands would have been empty.



Giving off is the wrong word. However when it's used all the time, 'special European nights', 'that Anfield atmosphere' etc etc it becomes boring. Especially when, from personal experience, it can be a myth at times. On Wednesday before the game, YNWA was blasting out, but the Chelsea fans were coming over loud and clear.


Yip, heard them during YNWA. But I think that was down to Chelsea fans being louder than usual at Anfield, don;t think the Pool fans were any less louder.

Very rare you wouldn;t get a boiling atmosphere on a European night, so wouldn't call it a myth.

PL games against smaller teams on the otherhand.....now that's when Anfield really is quiet.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 10, 2009, 12:12:44 PM
Fair enough.
Haven't been at Anfield on a 'special European night' so can't comment.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: magpie seanie on April 10, 2009, 12:21:53 PM
You do get a better atmosphere generally at smaller grounds.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 10, 2009, 12:23:20 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 10, 2009, 12:21:53 PM
You do get a better atmosphere generally at smaller grounds.

Fratton Park is meant to be the best.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 10, 2009, 12:28:18 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 10, 2009, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 09:17:53 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 10, 2009, 01:14:21 AM


And another thing.... the 'famous atmosphere' was missing on Wednesday too strangely despite Liverpool's recent good form.



A Chelsea fan giving off about Liverpool's atmosphere?  :D Now that's irony.

There was a great atmpsohere on Wednesday, obviously it died down at 3-1 but YNWA still sung at the end. In Stamford Bridge the abuse would have rained down en masse, and the stands would have been empty.



Giving off is the wrong word. However when it's used all the time, 'special European nights', 'that Anfield atmosphere' etc etc it becomes boring. Especially when, from personal experience, it can be a myth at times. On Wednesday before the game, YNWA was blasting out, but the Chelsea fans were coming over loud and clear.

Must have been the rattle from their plastic flags. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 10, 2009, 12:43:46 PM
Was at the 2007 semi final second leg @ Anfield.  I have to admit having heard all about the atmosphere I was a little disappointed...not as atmospheric as I was led to believe, however I did travel with three Liverpool fans who spent the entire day before the game telling me about the special atmosphere...maybe a bit of overkill!  The "you ain't got no history" song is funny though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 01:02:20 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 10, 2009, 12:43:46 PM
Was at the 2007 semi final second leg @ Anfield.  I have to admit having heard all about the atmosphere I was a little disappointed...not as atmospheric as I was led to believe, however I did travel with three Liverpool fans who spent the entire day before the game telling me about the special atmosphere...maybe a bit of overkill!  The "you ain't got no history" song is funny though.


Good response by the Chelsea fans the other night I must admit.

f**k your history...We're going to Rome.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Minder on April 10, 2009, 01:04:42 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 01:02:20 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 10, 2009, 12:43:46 PM
Was at the 2007 semi final second leg @ Anfield.  I have to admit having heard all about the atmosphere I was a little disappointed...not as atmospheric as I was led to believe, however I did travel with three Liverpool fans who spent the entire day before the game telling me about the special atmosphere...maybe a bit of overkill!  The "you ain't got no history" song is funny though.


Good response by the Chelsea fans the other night I must admit.

f**k your history...We're going to Rome.

Are they all Barcelona supporters?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: mrsandman on April 10, 2009, 01:52:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 10, 2009, 01:04:42 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 01:02:20 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 10, 2009, 12:43:46 PM
Was at the 2007 semi final second leg @ Anfield.  I have to admit having heard all about the atmosphere I was a little disappointed...not as atmospheric as I was led to believe, however I did travel with three Liverpool fans who spent the entire day before the game telling me about the special atmosphere...maybe a bit of overkill!  The "you ain't got no history" song is funny though.


Good response by the Chelsea fans the other night I must admit.

f**k your history...We're going to Rome.

Are they all Barcelona supporters?

To be fair to Barcelona no matter how good they look at the minute they were playing possibly the worst team of 8 left.  yes Bayern did demolish Spoting Lisbon (Shit) but Wolfsburg beat them 5-1 days before the barcelona match, so its not surprise barca won easy.  Once they play the winner of pool v chelsea (probably chelsea) itl be a totally different story, expecially if chelsea continue to play how they did on wednesday.

So no the chelsea fans are not all barcelona fans, they probably feel they have a realistic chance of beating barca and reaching the final (again) along with Man United of course...and JT missing a penalty again  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 10, 2009, 03:38:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 10, 2009, 01:04:42 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 01:02:20 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 10, 2009, 12:43:46 PM
Was at the 2007 semi final second leg @ Anfield.  I have to admit having heard all about the atmosphere I was a little disappointed...not as atmospheric as I was led to believe, however I did travel with three Liverpool fans who spent the entire day before the game telling me about the special atmosphere...maybe a bit of overkill!  The "you ain't got no history" song is funny though.


Good response by the Chelsea fans the other night I must admit.

f**k your history...We're going to Rome.

Are they all Barcelona supporters?

No. All the C18 boys are actually really religious, and Chelsea have organised a package trip for June to Rome with Thomas Cook. £300 for 2 days in Rome, with guided tours of the Vatican included by Mickey Thomas and John Spencer.
Should be a good'un.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 10, 2009, 05:19:02 PM
This from The Guardian:
Roman Abramovich has reassured Chelsea's senior players that he intends to revitalise an ageing squad in the ­summer and is ready to sanction a move for the much-coveted Valencia striker David Villa for what would constitute a British record transfer fee.

Chelsea's stunning Champions League quarter-final first leg victory at Liverpool on Wednesday has prolonged hopes of securing silverware on three fronts this term under the temporary stewardship of Guus Hiddink, though Abramovich has recognised the need to inject new blood into the squad for next term. The owner has indicated that the majority new of arrivals will have to be funded through sales, but he has proved willing to fund one lavish signing per summer in the past and is prepared to do so again to secure Villa.

The Spain striker, whose burgeoning reputation was confirmed with his searing performances en route to winning Euro 2008, is effectively being touted around Europe by Valencia as the Primera Liga side teeter on the brink of bankruptcy. Such are their crippling debts that they will listen to offers for any member of their first-team squad, though the 27-year-old remains their principal asset having previously attracted interest from Real Madrid, Barcelona and Manchester City. They will be unable to resist any serious offers this summer.

Valencia have been seeking some €50m (£45m) for Villa, a figure that may prove beyond the two Spanish clubs who court him, which would beat the £32.5m paid by Manchester City for Robinho last September. Yet, while they may consider a sale at slightly under that value, they will welcome Chelsea's interest to ensure they receive a competitive fee for a player who has scored 80 top-flight goals in his four years at the Mestalla. The striker himself has previously made it clear he is reluctant to leave Spain, though that stance may mellow when Chelsea's interest crystallises or, indeed, if the Londoners secure a first European Cup. Such success would add to their reputation on the continent.

The prospect of Villa following his Spanish strike partner Fernando Torres to the Premier League is tantalising, particularly given the attacking brilliance already demonstrated by Chelseain their defeat of Liverpool at Anfield on Wednesday. While money is tighter at Stamford Bridge these days after the excessive spending of Abramovich's first few years in charge, the Russian remains enthusiastic and committed to the cause, and has acknowledged the need to add to the squad by indicating to senior players that he will attempt to lure the Spaniard to Stamford Bridge.

"Generally speaking we'd like to use internally generated cash to buy new players and, by that, I mean sell players and buy new players," said the Chelsea chairman, Bruce Buck, following the declaration of the club's accounts in February. "But, if an appropriate player comes along who falls outside that cash flow, then money would be available from the owner to buy that player. But it would all depend on the player and the circumstances."

Chelsea have yet to appoint a long-term successor to Luiz Felipe Scolari, but no manager would be unhappy at the prospect of inheriting a striker as potent as Villa. Hiddink will be consulted by Abramovich ahead of the summer's squad strengthening but has indicated that he will leave his dual role with Chelsea and the Russian national team to return to duties in Moscow in May, with the Milan manager Carlo Ancelotti having emerged as the primary target to replace him.

The Italian was considered last summer and contact is understood to have been made with his representatives last month, though the 49-year-old is under contract at the San Siro until the end of the season with an option for a further season. Chelsea will monitor that situation closely, in the hope that Ancelotti will give real ­consideration to a move to England.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 11, 2009, 10:57:14 PM
That was some craic today. Was watching the match at a mate's house, and we were just talking about how it's great to be able to sit and relax and enjoy the last half hour or so.

Chelsea started sluggishly, and Bolton made the early running, however when Chelsea changed to second gear they dominated. Drogba looked busy and dangerous, as did Ashley Cole on the left wing. Hour gone, four up, Drogba and Super Frank subbed for a well earned rest.

Suddenly Bolton got a break and puled one back, and then another, and another. Chelsea's back four, especially Terry and Cech, simply stopped competing, and when Davies sniffed chaos he really went to town. In truth Bolton could've snatched another at the death, which would have been a tragedy (For Chelsea) considering they should've been up the other end adding to the goal differance!!

However this could be the perfect result. The biggest obstacle for this Tuesday is complacency, and this should go a long way to kicking that to touch.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 15, 2009, 02:39:01 AM
Cannae sleep, as my head still hurts from the tension earlier. I don't think I've ever hated a game as much before which produced a positive Chelsea result.

José would've enjoyed that (Not) tonight. What was it he refered Spurs/ Arsenal once... 'tsk 4-4 is not football, eets Hockey'.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 15, 2009, 08:03:36 AM
Don't usually drink during the week, but I poured a double after that!  Great to be through esp. after that 1st half but plenty to worry about.  Based on that performance Barca will score 6 in the first 20 mins at the Nou Camp.  Three or four years ago Cech was head and shoulders above any keeper in the world.  Now he looks like he would struggle to get a game for Cliftonville Olympic!  Defence was all over the place, midfield non existent in the first half...only Drogba looked like he was up for it.  Highlight of the night was Ballack's pass to Drogba for the third goal, brilliant.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: ONeill on April 15, 2009, 09:02:54 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 15, 2009, 08:03:36 AM
Don't usually drink during the week, but I poured a double after that!  Great to be through esp. after that 1st half but plenty to worry about.  Based on that performance Barca will score 6 in the first 20 mins at the Nou Camp.  Three or four years ago Cech was head and shoulders above any keeper in the world.  Now he looks like he would struggle to get a game for Cliftonville Olympic!  Defence was all over the place, midfield non existent in the first half...only Drogba looked like he was up for it.  Highlight of the night was Ballack's pass to Drogba for the third goal, brilliant.

Yes, that pass was sublime.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: ONeill on April 15, 2009, 09:06:38 AM
...but looking forward to knocking 6 past Chelsea this weekend.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 15, 2009, 09:09:24 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 15, 2009, 09:06:38 AM
...but looking forward to knocking 6 past Chelsea this weekend.

Who do you support ONeill...Ebbsfleet Utd!?!?! For they could probably stick 6 past Chelsea at the moment ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 15, 2009, 11:25:45 AM
I'll not riposte on the Lpool thread today after Bingo bus' last post.

For the record I thought Malouda's pass that eventually resulted in Ballack hittng Reina from 12 yards was the pass of the match.

As MQP and ON states... defence is all over the shop. A lot of it stems from Cech's jitters and how this transcends through the rest of the back four. Liverpool got a lot of joy from Ivanfield last night, and he is obviously not the solid right back I hoped. Hopefully Bosingwa is back for the weekend. Terry's return will also help. A BIG week on the training ground for Guus this week.

Returning to Europe for a while... what does Chelsea do for a left back in Camp Nou? Cole suspended, Bridge gone. Fererria who plays LB for Portugal injured. Looks like it'll be Ivanfield or Essien perhaps or even Belletti!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 15, 2009, 12:21:39 PM
We're badly stuck for a left back ???...looks like Belletti or at a push Mancienne, tho' neither of these are naturally left sided players.  Essien is too vital in MF to "waste" in the full back line, I think he'll sit on Iniesta or Xavi who provide a lot of the ammo for Messi et al
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2009, 12:16:53 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 15, 2009, 11:25:45 AM
I'll not riposte on the Lpool thread today after Bingo bus' last post.


Has anyone a feckin clue what that means?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 16, 2009, 12:53:17 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 16, 2009, 12:16:53 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 15, 2009, 11:25:45 AM
I'll not riposte on the Lpool thread today after Bingo bus' last post.


Has anyone a feckin clue what that means?

I did not want to go back onto the Liverpool thread today (Yesterday) to talk about diving, cheating, and all the other shite we talk about after Bingobus' last post of the day on there. Go back and read it and it'll make sense.

I'll be back chatting shite there the moro (Today).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 17, 2009, 09:26:25 AM
Another BIG game on Saturday for both the Goons, and Chelsea. Chelsea have the advantage of an extra day's rest, but the extra nervous energy Chelsea burnt off, and Arsenal's Wednesday night canter negates this.

Last week people talked of Liverpool's great form before they faced Chelsea, ignoring the fact that in the form guide Chelsea's recent results were better.

So it would be unwise to ignore Arsenal's recent form. Currently 7 games unbeaten, and the one that they lost (Roma) didn't really matter. I think it's one defeat in 25 as well, stretching back to 10th December.

The most interesting tussle on Saturday will be Essien v Fabregas in the midfield, and could decide the game. It's also a clash of Arsenal's sleek forward play v Chelsea's jittery defence, and Chelsea's pysical attack v Arsenal's questionable back four. I think Almunia's absence is a blessing in disguise for Arsenal as I've always maintained Fabianski to be the better keeper. Getting Cech's pysche right will be very important for Chelsea.

Don't be surprised to see spot kicks on Saturday night after a 1-1 draw (Adebayor and Lampard).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 17, 2009, 10:21:24 AM
Wenger's Gooners are well known as big girls blouses.  All Essien has to do is go through Fabregas for a short cut and he'll spend the rest of the game whinging.  A couple of boots up the arse for some of their hanky ball players should be a major tactic...a game plan known as the "Gary Neville" I believe ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: mrsandman on April 17, 2009, 11:33:14 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 17, 2009, 10:21:24 AM
Wenger's Gooners are well known as big girls blouses.  All Essien has to do is go through Fabregas for a short cut and he'll spend the rest of the game whinging.  A couple of boots up the arse for some of their hanky ball players should be a major tactic...a game plan known as the "Gary Neville" I believe ;)

Compliment for Gary, not many of them about.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Katchit on April 17, 2009, 11:57:36 AM
Fancy us to win by the odd goal, Anekla brace please  :-*
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 19, 2009, 11:43:53 AM
Great to be back in another FA Cup final.

This game had a 'after the lord mayor's show' feel to it.  Arsenal's pysche appeared to be affected by Wenger's starting X1 being weaker than it required to be, and I struggled to work out what system they were playing, and who was where. I also felt his pre match criticism of the pitch was wrong (Although he was right), as put the players into excuse mode.

Chelsea today started strangely, and appeared to have a gear or two to spare the whole way through the game. I was surprised that Arsenal didn't test Cech a bit more early on to see how the old nerves were. However the Guus, switched Essien and Ballack and Chelsea clicked a bit better. I thought Ashley Cole was excellent against the lively Walcott, but as usual Lampard was a cut about and gave young Cesc a lesson. In truth despite Lampard's killer ball for the winner, it was his ball winning which stood out today. I don't think I have seen Lampard make as may tackles.

The ref had a curious game too. He did well in large parts, but he let some tackles go that he could've pulled back. Both sides also had goodish penalty claims turned down. Malouda's collision with RVP (I think), and Silvestre's punch away both being shouts. The other one where I was really surpised with was when Denison pushed the ref, and only goot booked.

Anyhow... the end of a great week for the Blues. A Euro semi, and a FA Cup final to keep things going. Imagine if Hiddink had've arrived earlier......KTBFFH.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 20, 2009, 09:29:58 AM
A good win and keeps the momentum going.  The match itself was poor enough though it was ten times better than yesterday's snorefest.  Like Norf I thought there were two decent shouts for pens.  Malouda's push (on Fabregas I think) was definitely a penalty (WTF was he thinking?!?!) and I think Silvestre was more guilty of handball than the commentators thought.  A close enough game that Chelsea won by taking their chances, helped it must be said by an erratic performance from Fabianski.  Two lesser points...Denilson very lucky to stay on the field after pushing the ref and the incident where Ivanovic was shown a yellow card for a tackle on Van Persie, that had him writhing around in agony...if you looked closely at the slo-mo there was very little (if any) contact with Van Persie's legs.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 24, 2009, 04:00:23 PM
Kick it to em Frank....

http://www.mcx.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Lampard%20LBC%20Interview.asf (http://www.mcx.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Lampard%20LBC%20Interview.asf)

Some of the media can be real muck wreckers.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 24, 2009, 07:26:32 PM
fair play to him
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 25, 2009, 10:19:49 PM
Results in the league aren't overly important at present, although it's nice to keep momentum up by winning games, and the chance of finishing second.

A really good game today. Chelsea were fantastic in posession, and probably thes best I've seen them all year. However we lacked a wee edge in the final third, with the killer ball missing, or taking too much out of it. Saying that with Drogba, Essien, and Ballack rested along with Ashley Cole and Alex it was inevitable that would happen. At the back the second clean sheet in three days would've done Cech's confidence a world of good, including a rare but very good penalty save.
Ironically despite all Chelsea's impressive passing, flicks and general slickness, it was the Hammers that had the best two or three chances.

Bosingwa played at right back and was not really tested so it's hard to know if Guus learnt much for Tuesday night, but it'll be interesting to see how Chelsea line out.

Keeps the run going...

As an aside, big Jagielka was stretchered off today and may miss the cup final. A big boost for Chelsea, but feel sorry for the fella as he is a good player, and a honest pro.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Minder on April 25, 2009, 10:21:02 PM
Barca 2-1 down to Valencia now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: ONeill on April 26, 2009, 12:11:15 AM
Finished 2-2, late Henry goal. Not ideal prep.

NT, what run? 7 league games, pah! Try 19.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 26, 2009, 12:25:36 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 26, 2009, 12:11:15 AM
Finished 2-2, late Henry goal. Not ideal prep.

NT, what run? 7 league games, pah! Try 19.

Who do you support again?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: under the bar on April 28, 2009, 09:24:40 AM
Best of Luck to Chelski tonight.   Hope you make the final and we can have a repeat of last years epic.

It's only right that the 2 best premiership team of the past half decade contest the big stage together.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: nifan on April 28, 2009, 09:33:58 AM
Looking forward to what should be a good game tonight.

Always love watching messi play - hes bound to be a strong second favourite for world player of the year behind favourite Ryan Giggs :P.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Katchit on April 28, 2009, 11:37:13 AM
Gonna be a draw 2-2, Messi hat-trick.  I'd take that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Minder on April 28, 2009, 11:38:12 AM
Quote from: Katchit on April 28, 2009, 11:37:13 AM
Gonna be a draw 2-2, Messi hat-trick.  I'd take that.

Eh?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 28, 2009, 11:38:14 AM
Quote from: Katchit on April 28, 2009, 11:37:13 AM
Gonna be a draw 2-2, Messi hat-trick.  I'd take that.
:D


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 28, 2009, 11:44:48 AM
Hiddink has cranked up the pressure on Boswinga tonight now anyway, saying he is 'the man to handle Messi', great management?  We will see...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: EC Unique on April 28, 2009, 11:46:21 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 28, 2009, 11:38:12 AM
Quote from: Katchit on April 28, 2009, 11:37:13 AM
Gonna be a draw 2-2, Messi hat-trick.  I'd take that.

Eh?

Would an own goal count? :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: ExiledGael on April 28, 2009, 07:00:39 PM
Barcelona: Valdes, Alves, Pique, Marquez, Abidal, Toure, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Henry, Eto'o. Subs: Jorquera, Puyol, Gudjohnsen, Bojan, Keita, Silvinho, Hleb.
Chelsea: Cech, Ivanovic, Terry, Alex, Bosingwa, Lampard, Mikel, Ballack, Essien, Malouda, Drogba. Subs: Hilario, Di Santo, Kalou, Belletti, Anelka, Mancienne, Stoch.

Defensive looking Chelsea team. Mikel and Essien both in presumably to protect the back four.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: ExiledGael on April 28, 2009, 08:36:00 PM
Excellent first half from Chelsea but they'll have to retain possession better in the second half if they're to survive. They had to protect themselves against an early onslaught and they've done that. If they can keep it the same for the early stages of the second half they could steal a great result.
Huge chance from Drogba and he'll get another before the night's out with that defence. Iniesta is the best player on view but it's just so crowded across the 18 yard line with Mikel, Ballack, Essien and Lampard all forming another solid line no more than ten yards in front of that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: anportmorforjfc on April 28, 2009, 09:46:59 PM
shite game, chelsea too negative the game badly need a goal. Think Barcelona will still go through. Another dive from the master Drogba (89 mins)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 28, 2009, 10:08:26 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on April 28, 2009, 09:46:59 PM
shite game, chelsea too negative the game badly need a goal. Think Barcelona will still go through. Another dive from the master Drogba (89 mins)
He's a hateful ****. Barca had a good shout for a pen. Good result for Chelsea but crucially no away goal.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Minder on April 28, 2009, 10:12:03 PM
I would still marginally favour Barcelona, cant see them not scoring in the second leg and Chelsea didnt get the away goal. I think Barcelona will be more dangerous when the game is more open. No matter how good a team is its hard to break the opposition down when they have a line of ten across the penalty box.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: ExiledGael on April 28, 2009, 10:29:48 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 28, 2009, 10:08:26 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on April 28, 2009, 09:46:59 PM
shite game, chelsea too negative the game badly need a goal. Think Barcelona will still go through. Another dive from the master Drogba (89 mins)
He's a hateful ****. Barca had a good shout for a pen. Good result for Chelsea but crucially no away goal.

Actually thought that was a bit of a dive from Henry.
And as brilliant as Iniesta is, his constant demanding for cards for the opposition is a little sickening. Dani Alves was the grestest cheat on the night though.
Marquez looks to have damaged knee ligaments and Puyol is now suspended for next week so their defence could be even weaker than normal.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 28, 2009, 10:41:16 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on April 28, 2009, 10:29:48 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 28, 2009, 10:08:26 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on April 28, 2009, 09:46:59 PM
shite game, chelsea too negative the game badly need a goal. Think Barcelona will still go through. Another dive from the master Drogba (89 mins)
He's a hateful ****. Barca had a good shout for a pen. Good result for Chelsea but crucially no away goal.

Actually thought that was a bit of a dive from Henry.
And as brilliant as Iniesta is, his constant demanding for cards for the opposition is a little sickening. Dani Alves was the grestest cheat on the night though.
Marquez looks to have damaged knee ligaments and Puyol is now suspended for next week so their defence could be even weaker than normal.
An annoying runt of a man, he never stopped crying all night and all he had was Malouda to contend with.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 29, 2009, 04:55:26 AM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on April 28, 2009, 09:46:59 PM
shite game, chelsea too negative the game badly need a goal. Think Barcelona will still go through. Another dive from the master Drogba (89 mins)

It's the last minute of a belligerent display. Tell me a player who would not lie down to burn off a bit of time?  :-\

The game very much 50/50 still. Essentially winner goes through, and if it's a draw then Barce likely to emerge. Chelsea defended well as a team, but it's hard to identify an individual who played well. Bosingwa kept Messi quiet, but Messi had a poor game as well. Cech obviously had a good game, Ivanovic in patches, and Malouda carried the ball well at times.

I think the key was Chelsea's midfiled marking the space that Barce liked to thread the ball through.

It was unusual to see Lampard getting subbed, and it was the right call in truth. Chelsea's back line was deep that meant that the distance Lampard had to cover to support Drogba was too far, meaning that his usual box to box game wasn't possible.

As for Barce, I can't claim to be au fait with each of their players but Iniesta looks a real handful, and caught the eye.

The 2nd leg will be interesting, and I hoped we would be going into it with a good chance, and I believe we are. Barce seemed very frustrated tonight, and the images of Pique, and Alves pushing each other suggests that perhaps they are under pressure to deliver. No Marquez, and Puyol suspended means that a suspect defence is under more stress.

All to play for and my hope was that Chelsea would head to SB with a good shout....
.... that they have.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: full back on April 29, 2009, 08:56:11 AM
Decent display from the blues last night
The Barcelona defence isnt good & Chelsea will score at the Bridge but a lack of an away goal last night could prove vital

Plenty of divers on view last night which left for a stop start game
Drogba was the one of the worst offenders as per usual
The time he was going through & slipped he even turned to the ref to appeal for a penalty.
Diving cnut  >:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: EC Unique on April 29, 2009, 09:31:54 AM
I thought Barca had a good enough case for a penalty, it was defenitly worth discussion but those assholes on ITV were too busy lording Chelsea's 'excellent defence' to even mention it :-\ Any defence with 9 players in it would look tight :-X
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 29, 2009, 10:08:41 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on April 29, 2009, 09:31:54 AM
I thought Barca had a good enough case for a penalty, it was defenitly worth discussion but those assholes on ITV were too busy lording Chelsea's 'excellent defence' to even mention it :-\ Any defence with 9 players in it would look tight :-X

Gnash, gnash gnash. :P

Look at the stats from last season's trip to the Nou Camp for Manchester U. One shot on target, and Barce having more of the ball then than they did last night.
Looks a similar story.... hopefully the second leg is similar too.


Barce                 Mancs
72.8% Possession 27.2%
20 Shots 7
6 Shots on target 1
1 Saves 0
8 Corners 3
20 Fouls 10
0 Offsides 3
1 Yellow cards 1
0 Red cards 0
19 Tackles 35
616 Accurate passes 191
66 Bad passes 23

Barcelona  Chelsea
0 Goals scored 0
6 Shots on target 1
12 Shots wide 2
2 Shots blocked 0
2 Yellow card 2
0 Red card 0
7 Fouls committed 20
10 Corners 2
4 Offsides 3
36' 29'' Ball. Poss. (time) 19' 8''
65% Ball. Poss. (%) 35%
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: full back on April 29, 2009, 01:10:42 PM
Lucky for Drogba, the physio took the smelling salts with him ::)


(http://www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/data/gif/drobasalts.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2009, 09:36:16 PM
The mission tomorrow is pick a team to win against the neighbours, but rest a few for the whining c**ts from Catalonia.

My team:
                         Hilario

Ivanovic     Mancienne   Alex     Bosingwa

                     Mikel
             Ballack      Belletti

Stoch            Kalou             Quaresma
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 06, 2009, 09:24:23 AM
Biggest European game of the year tonight, can't wait.  Chelsea 2 - Quejadores 1.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2009, 02:02:45 PM
I don't know if I am looking forward to tonight or not. A real 50/50 encounter. I woke up thinking geez we'll be too strong for these pretty boys, and had my breakfast worrying about what Barce could do if Chelsea are not on the boil.

Guus has a few wee selection dilemas tonight. Cech, Terry and Alex pick themselves. It's then a case of putting Bosingwa at right back with Cole at LB, or does he remember how well the Bos did last week, and keep him at LB with Ivanfield at RB.

Drogba will start up front, but will he go two either side (Anelka and Malouda), or stay like he did in Camp Nou, with Malouda keeping Alves company. With that conundrum sorted, it'll either be 3 or 4 in the centre of the park, with Mikel the 4th.

All in all I reckon he'll go.

                      Cech

Bos         Alex        JT          Cole

         Essien                Ballack
                 
                  Lampard

Anelka                             Malouda

                   Drogba



Probably the key man on the pitch is the ref. I'd be worried about how whistle happy he'd be, and with Barce's whining and teeth gnashing still ringing in the ear, he must be strong. The conspiracy theorists suggest that Mr Platini 'wants' at least one English team in the final, and the papers have alluded to this this morning. Even The Sun (I know, I know) talking about some strange goings on at a ref's seminar a few weeks back.

An early goal for Barce will give them a huge boost, and put Chelsea exactly where they want them. The longer the game goes on without a goal, the better for Chelsea.

Anyhow better go pick up my plastic flag.

KTBFFH
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: corn02 on May 06, 2009, 02:16:49 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2009, 02:02:45 PM


   

Anyhow better go pick up my plastic flag.


:P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: EC Unique on May 06, 2009, 02:40:25 PM
What players on both teams are a booking away from suspension?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 06, 2009, 05:19:41 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 06, 2009, 02:40:25 PM
What players on both teams are a booking away from suspension?

For Chelsea, Anelka :o, Ballack and Alex.  For Barca I think only Alves
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2009, 06:12:12 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 06, 2009, 05:19:41 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 06, 2009, 02:40:25 PM
What players on both teams are a booking away from suspension?

For Chelsea, Anelka :o, Ballack and Alex.  For Barca I think only Alves

There is someone else for Barce too, but I think it might one of the players not in the 16. I hope you aren't shouting at the TV all night EC begging for the ref to be yellow card happy.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Midman on May 06, 2009, 07:28:57 PM

anyone have a decent link for the game?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2009, 07:55:31 PM
Quote from: Midman on May 06, 2009, 07:28:57 PM

anyone have a decent link for the game?

Cant find any, anyone?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Schkite on May 06, 2009, 07:56:42 PM
Christ, some hit by Essien! "Take a bow son!"  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2009, 07:56:53 PM
http://streamingsportzz.blogspot.com/ (http://streamingsportzz.blogspot.com/)
Doesnt seem too bad
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 07:58:41 PM
download sopcast and go to myp2p.eu
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Capt Pat on May 06, 2009, 08:10:41 PM
http://www.rte.ie/live/

This works for us wonderful free staters at least.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Capt Pat on May 06, 2009, 08:37:16 PM
Barcelona are beginning to dominate possession but it is just like last years against Man U when they dominated possession in 2 games and didn't come close to scoring.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 08:38:19 PM
Quote from: Medic on May 06, 2009, 08:07:20 PM
Quote from: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 07:58:41 PM
download sopcast and go to myp2p.eu
i did that a while back but i don't use myp2p.eu cos i can watch it on the live channels but it's commentated in chinese. :P

that was a sublime goal by the by

pick one of the streams with english commentary?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 06, 2009, 09:10:20 PM
Abidal off...same as last night..

Ridiculous refereeing
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 09:11:34 PM
Game over surely ?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: scud on May 06, 2009, 09:11:46 PM
Anelka is a diving b*****d. brutal referee. Mon the barca!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Capt Pat on May 06, 2009, 09:13:20 PM
The sending off was coming, not for the incident itself but the fact that Drogba was diving around all night and the crowd were looking for it and put pressure on the ref who eventually caved in.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Schkite on May 06, 2009, 09:13:38 PM
Another brutal red card decision! If Barca go through both full backs missing for the final!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: stpauls on May 06, 2009, 09:13:59 PM
fecking Virgin blocked the game at half time, what's the score now, still 1-0?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: AFS on May 06, 2009, 09:14:42 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 09:11:34 PM
Game over surely ?

Not at all, Barca still only need to nick one and they're through.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 06, 2009, 09:14:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 06, 2009, 09:14:17 PM
Good decision.


WUM
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: EC Unique on May 06, 2009, 09:15:24 PM
cheats
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 06, 2009, 09:17:05 PM
He fell over/dived...Anelka knew exactly what he was doing.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 06, 2009, 09:17:59 PM
Drogba is a rotten ****. Not watching the match but that's the contribution I wanted to make.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Medic on May 06, 2009, 09:19:06 PM
i bet barca will still dominate possession even with a man less on the field

still want chelski to go through and win it in the final though :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 06, 2009, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 06, 2009, 09:17:31 PM
You can't trip someone up.

You can but he didn't....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: AFS on May 06, 2009, 09:22:28 PM
Why was he not booked for diving there? Cop out by the ref
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: EC Unique on May 06, 2009, 09:22:51 PM
lost count of the amount of cheating dives now
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 06, 2009, 09:27:41 PM
5-1 on Barcelona to go through. However, 6-1 on the draw and 13-2 on 1-1 correct score.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Schkite on May 06, 2009, 09:28:32 PM
Will this young buck make up for his shocking miss last week?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 09:29:24 PM
What a display of diving from both sides.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Schkite on May 06, 2009, 09:30:08 PM
I just hope there's a decent ref in place for the final.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 09:31:48 PM
Quote from: Schkite on May 06, 2009, 09:30:08 PM
I just hope there's a decent ref in place for the final.

Gymnastics ref ?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: AFS on May 06, 2009, 09:32:35 PM
I see the great Messi isn't averse to the odd dive too  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 06, 2009, 09:33:25 PM
Maye be they should put a pool in the middle of the pitch...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: EC Unique on May 06, 2009, 09:35:07 PM
Quote from: AFS on May 06, 2009, 09:32:35 PM
I see the great Messi isn't averse to the odd dive too  ::)

Going on the last 24 hours he could not lace Ronaldo's boots.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 06, 2009, 09:35:49 PM
 ;D unlucky
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 06, 2009, 09:36:04 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Schkite on May 06, 2009, 09:36:16 PM
Holy fcuk!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Capt Pat on May 06, 2009, 09:36:58 PM
Can Danny Alvez cross a bal at all at all???...........wait before I post, goal for Barce.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Schkite on May 06, 2009, 09:39:14 PM
Ballack will miss the final.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: AFS on May 06, 2009, 09:39:36 PM
Ballack will get a long ban for that. Dickhead.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 06, 2009, 09:39:52 PM
That was a pen too....LOL
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: EC Unique on May 06, 2009, 09:40:55 PM
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 06, 2009, 09:41:03 PM
That is why I follow sport!!!!

That was excellent to watch.

Ballack is a total disgrace. Shocking behaviour.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: aroundincircles on May 06, 2009, 09:41:31 PM
Thank fcuk for that boring chelsea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 06, 2009, 09:42:20 PM
Fantastic! ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 06, 2009, 09:43:02 PM
Drogba is going radio rental.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: aroundincircles on May 06, 2009, 09:43:12 PM
That Drogba is one complete arse hole.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Diet Coke on May 06, 2009, 09:43:19 PM
Take a redner Drogba asshole!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Main Street on May 06, 2009, 09:43:32 PM
Never a penalty   :)

Bad losers these Chelsea chaps.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: AFS on May 06, 2009, 09:43:46 PM
 :D :D Drogba

The behaviour of these Chelsea players is a joke
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 06, 2009, 09:43:55 PM
With all that has been said about the way United and Arsenal have in the past treated referees it does not compare to what has just happened.

That is a complete disgrace. I have never seen any top club act like that before.

Terry, Ballack, Drogba should all face heavy suspensions.

When you see them acting like that it makes the result incredibly sweeter.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 06, 2009, 09:44:42 PM
Start banning them now for next season...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: EC Unique on May 06, 2009, 09:44:54 PM
pissing myself at chelsea players :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Schkite on May 06, 2009, 09:45:53 PM
Dry your eyes Terry!  :D

Wasn't sure whether I wanted Barca to go through or not, but after seeing the behaviour of the Chelsea players I'm feckin delighted! Ballack, Drogba and co. are a disgrace!

Plus Barca will have an awful makeshift back line for the final, and I'd be very wary of Hiddink's tactical nous in plotting Utd's downfall.

Drogba roarin at the camera!  :D :D :D No Rome for you ya w**ker!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: passedit on May 06, 2009, 09:46:52 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 06, 2009, 09:40:37 PM
Chelsea dicked by the ref.

Good enough.

And people wonder why refs end up in car boots.

Has Bernard Tapie bought Barca?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: RedandGreenSniper on May 06, 2009, 09:47:09 PM
Delighted with the result but I do feel sorry for Chelsea and their reaction afterwards is somewhat understandable. f**k it like even if they weren't right about the final peno shout, the nature of the finish of the game would have your blood up if you are a player and any player not to be angry, well if I was a Chelsea fan that would anger me more.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Midman on May 06, 2009, 09:48:26 PM
Im in Barça and a big Barça fan but still feel sorry for Chelsea especially Essien who is a fantastic player
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 06, 2009, 09:49:25 PM
You didnt see the Down U21s gettin on like those Chelski knobs on Monday
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 09:50:57 PM
That was absolutely hilarious
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 06, 2009, 09:51:20 PM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on May 06, 2009, 09:47:09 PM
Delighted with the result but I do feel sorry for Chelsea and their reaction afterwards is somewhat understandable. f**k it like even if they weren't right about the final peno shout, the nature of the finish of the game would have your blood up if you are a player and any player not to be angry, well if I was a Chelsea fan that would anger me more.

Quote from: Midman on May 06, 2009, 09:48:26 PM
Im in Barça and a big Barça fan but still feel sorry for Chelsea especially Essien who is a fantastic player

Not one ounce of sympathy from me!

Crying bastards, f**k them!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: highorlow on May 06, 2009, 09:52:45 PM
Those Chelsea lads need an anger manager not a football manager.

It looks like Mr.Drogba has severe mental problems. They better put him in a straight jacket later. He needs help God bless him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 06, 2009, 09:52:55 PM
Chelsea fans???

Lads any word? or are you all too busy writing death threats to the ref?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Capt Pat on May 06, 2009, 09:53:05 PM
Chelsea player are gone nuts that the referee only sent off one barcelona player in the wrong and wouldn't give them any penalites for all their diving and giving out to the ref. Ballack hit the ref and should have got the line...........Drogba gets a yellow card for dissent after the final whistle. Ok he may have got a few decisions wrong but Chelseas diving and petulance was a lot worse.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 06, 2009, 09:55:31 PM
drogba has been a fcukin disgrace since he came to this country.
Sky Sports have just replayed his outburst and beeped out the word disgrace instead of fuckin  :D :D
richard keys had to apologise profusely
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 06, 2009, 09:57:14 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 06, 2009, 09:55:31 PM
drogba has been a fcukin disgrace since he came to this country.
Sky Sports have just replayed his outburst and beeped out the word disgrace instead of fuckin  :D :D
richard keys had to apologise profusely

Please tell me you live in England?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: nifan on May 06, 2009, 09:58:28 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 06, 2009, 09:55:31 PM
drogba has been a fcukin disgrace since he came to this country.
Sky Sports have just replayed his outburst and beeped out the word disgrace instead of fuckin  :D :D
richard keys had to apologise profusely

Aye keys cacked hmself when it was played!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 06, 2009, 09:59:17 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 06, 2009, 09:57:14 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 06, 2009, 09:55:31 PM
drogba has been a fcukin disgrace since he came to this country.
Sky Sports have just replayed his outburst and beeped out the word disgrace instead of fuckin  :D :D
richard keys had to apologise profusely

Please tell me you live in England?
:D :D i get a bit carried watching soccer. Well spotted

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 06, 2009, 09:59:29 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 06, 2009, 09:57:14 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 06, 2009, 09:55:31 PM
drogba has been a fcukin disgrace since he came to this country.
Sky Sports have just replayed his outburst and beeped out the word disgrace instead of fuckin  :D :D
richard keys had to apologise profusely

Please tell me you live in England?

I will second that, where are you from Hoof Hearted??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Puckoon on May 06, 2009, 10:00:05 PM
Chelsea have been well and truely shafted there. Very paddy Russell 1995 esque. Except worse.


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 06, 2009, 10:00:31 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 06, 2009, 09:59:17 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 06, 2009, 09:57:14 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 06, 2009, 09:55:31 PM
drogba has been a fcukin disgrace since he came to this country.
Sky Sports have just replayed his outburst and beeped out the word disgrace instead of fuckin  :D :D
richard keys had to apologise profusely

Please tell me you live in England?
:D :D i get a bit carried watching soccer. Well spotted



We'll let you away with it this time!  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 06, 2009, 10:01:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 06, 2009, 10:00:57 PM
He's from Bellaghy, London.

.....derry?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Midman on May 06, 2009, 10:02:24 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 06, 2009, 09:51:20 PM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on May 06, 2009, 09:47:09 PM
Delighted with the result but I do feel sorry for Chelsea and their reaction afterwards is somewhat understandable. f**k it like even if they weren't right about the final peno shout, the nature of the finish of the game would have your blood up if you are a player and any player not to be angry, well if I was a Chelsea fan that would anger me more.

Quote from: Midman on May 06, 2009, 09:48:26 PM
Im in Barça and a big Barça fan but still feel sorry for Chelsea especially Essien who is a fantastic player

Not one ounce of sympathy from me!

Crying b**tards, f**k them!

Don't get me wrong i'm glad Barça went through but it was harsh on Chelsea. Drogba's an awful girl though, if he put as much effort into staying on his fet as shouting at the ref Chelsea would have been 3-0 up
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: aroundincircles on May 06, 2009, 10:03:14 PM
Greame Souness is gutted.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Minder on May 06, 2009, 10:03:52 PM
Not as gutted as Jamie Redknapp........I think he is gong to cry.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 06, 2009, 10:04:16 PM
Right, the rules.

I'm not too clued in on this bit:

Drogba got a yellow after the game, is it like the Gah where now they can't take any more action because the referee dealt with it at the time?

That would be an awful pity.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 10:04:25 PM
Ref was horrible - no doubt about that - but both teams were diving left, right and centre all night - I know it's no excuse but Drogba has a reputation of diving as do others on both teams.


What was Drogba shouting at the camera ??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Square Ball on May 06, 2009, 10:04:30 PM
just seen the pen claims  :o how the ref diddnt give at least one of them is beyound me
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Capt Pat on May 06, 2009, 10:04:38 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on May 06, 2009, 10:00:05 PM
Chelsea have been well and truely shafted there. Very paddy Russell 1995 esque. Except worse.




No not even close to that, Chelsea maybe didn't get every decision they should have but the ref was blind sided for the one penalty they should have had but did even up the scores by sending of fAbidal for nothing. Chelsea have thrown the rattle out of the pram bug time tonight but that does not mean they were hard done by. They were cheating all night and when they did have a legitimate complaint and made a call for it is it any surprise that the ref just ignored them.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 06, 2009, 10:05:19 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on May 06, 2009, 10:00:05 PM
Chelsea have been well and truely shafted there. Very paddy Russell 1995 esque. Except worse.




Em, from where i am sitting didn't barca have a player sent off in the wrong. Also, that Drogba is mental. Did you see the lepping of him in the box when he didn't get his penalties and then the screaming at the ref like a spoilt brat. I feel sorry for the chelsea players but they played a negative game all about stopping barca instead of imposing themselves on the match. For me it was good to see the team trying to play ball win and it should make for an entertaining final and another chance to see the suberb messi.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 10:05:23 PM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/14ui442.jpg)

:D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: irunthev on May 06, 2009, 10:05:46 PM
Quote from: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 09:50:57 PM
That was absolutely hilarious

I agree although sadly it means that Utd will win the CL now... which I'm not too happy about, they will crowd out the Barca attack just as Chelsea did
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: RedandGreenSniper on May 06, 2009, 10:07:04 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on May 06, 2009, 09:49:25 PM
You didnt see the Down U21s gettin on like those Chelski knobs on Monday

Not as controversial an ending. Even though I was like Drogba after Cork scored that goal what with it fuckin up my accum!

The Drogba clip is hillarious!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 10:05:23 PM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/14ui442.jpg)

:D

Have you any sound on this clip ? What was he saying ??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 10:08:35 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 10:05:23 PM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/14ui442.jpg)

:D

Have you any sound on this clip ? What was he saying ??

turn up your speakers
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 06, 2009, 10:10:11 PM
Can you fecking beleive it, minute gone in injury time and i decide to take the dog for a walk!!  Missed the whole craic >:(

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 10:10:21 PM
Quote from: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 10:08:35 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 10:05:23 PM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/14ui442.jpg)

:D

Have you any sound on this clip ? What was he saying ??

turn up your speakers

Subtitles ?  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Minder on May 06, 2009, 10:11:26 PM
"A f**king disgrace" was what i heard the big full forward say.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Midman on May 06, 2009, 10:11:43 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 10:10:21 PM
Quote from: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 10:08:35 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 10:05:23 PM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/14ui442.jpg)

:D

Have you any sound on this clip ? What was he saying ??

turn up your speakers

Subtitles ?  ;)

Ou est le center George Pompidou?  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 10:12:31 PM
I tell you something - Gus Hiddink came out of this debacle at the end very well - he didn't lower himself and looked embarassed at the way Drogba was making a complete tool of himself and Chelsea FC. Apparently Drogba had a pair of flip flops on ??  :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 06, 2009, 10:12:49 PM
the ref gave him a yellow before that, so that was a seperate incident and can be dealt with. Thats the way it is in this country england anyway  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Capt Pat on May 06, 2009, 10:12:58 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on May 06, 2009, 10:04:30 PM
just seen the pen claims  :o how the ref diddnt give at least one of them is beyound me

Ah come on now they actually have to be penalties for the ref to give them. Histrionics and tantrums from the Chelsea players and fans does not actually mean they were penalties, they are pnly penalties when they were clear cut fouls. There was one clear cut penalty for which the ref was blindsided and no ref could have given it.  
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Schkite on May 06, 2009, 10:13:06 PM
 :D Drogba looks like he's being led away to a mental institution! At least he should be!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 10:17:03 PM
How the handball and penatly wasn't given against Pique I'll never know. Ridiculous. But no excuse for Drogba's tantrum.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Minder on May 06, 2009, 10:18:07 PM
In fairness it was some toe pointer from Iniesta.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 10:18:25 PM
It was so funny watching the referee try to run awat from Michael Ballack after the penalty appeal at the last when the ball hit Eto's arm.


Stalin - can you put that one up ??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 10:18:35 PM
(http://www.footballgifs.co.uk/custom/capture-8.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Schkite on May 06, 2009, 10:19:46 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 10:12:31 PM
I tell you something - Gus Hiddink came out of this debacle at the end very well - he didn't lower himself and looked embarassed at the way Drogba was making a complete tool of himself and Chelsea FC. Apparently Drogba had a pair of flip flops on ??  :D :D :D

Abbsolutely, I've the height of respect for Hiddink, a great manager and a respectful man.

Interesting that the Chelsea players were apparently saying that UEFA didn't want a second English team in the final, I wonder was the ref Platini in disguise!  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: slow corner back on May 06, 2009, 10:21:20 PM
It has to be said that Barca were extremly lucky over the two legs to get through. y my count they only created two clear chances in 180 minutes, Bojans late header at the nou camp and Iniestas goal. Drogba missed a sitter at the Nou and as has been well stated Chelsea could ( should ) have had three penalties tonight. As a Utd fan I am happy to see Barca in the final as I do not believe they are any stronger than last year although they are still a dangerous side. Drogba is a complete tool though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 10:21:33 PM
Drogba they're saying is in big trouble after this display - but surely he can plead insanity ??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 10:22:10 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Minder on May 06, 2009, 10:22:29 PM
Jamie Redknapp talking bollocks about the fact that the ref shouldnt have been allowed to referee a match of that significance as he is from Norway and they arent used to that pace in Norway, has he ever f**king watched Italian football. The ref was shit, now Chelsea know how Uniteds opposition feel every week in the EPL.........
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Minder on May 06, 2009, 10:26:57 PM
Quote from: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 10:22:10 PM
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2a7a3qv.jpg)

Im not sure Ballack would have caught him if the ref gave it a bit of three quarter pace.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: stiffler on May 06, 2009, 10:28:15 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: StGallsGAA on May 06, 2009, 10:28:46 PM
QuoteIt has to be said that Barca were extremly lucky over the two legs to get through. y my count they only created two clear chances in 180 minutes,

Eh?  They completely dominated both games with almost 70% possession in both, despite playing 30 mins of the 2nd leg with 10 men.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2009, 10:29:06 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 06, 2009, 10:22:29 PM
Jamie Redknapp talking bollocks about the fact that the ref shouldnt have been allowed to referee a match of that significance as he is from Norway and they arent used to that pace in Norway, has he ever f**king watched Italian football. The ref was shit, now Chelsea know how Uniteds opposition feel every week in the EPL.........

Is that who kept going on with that bullshit - I thought his rants were a disgrace and he should be pulled up on it.
What the f**k does it matter where the ref is from.  
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Minder on May 06, 2009, 10:30:41 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2009, 10:29:06 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 06, 2009, 10:22:29 PM
Jamie Redknapp talking bollocks about the fact that the ref shouldnt have been allowed to referee a match of that significance as he is from Norway and they arent used to that pace in Norway, has he ever f**king watched Italian football. The ref was shit, now Chelsea know how Uniteds opposition feel every week in the EPL.........

Is that who kept going on with that bullshit - I thought his rants were a disgrace and he should be pulled up on it.
What the f**k does it matter where the ref is from.  

I think it is more to do with the fact he is Frank Lampards cousin and pally with the English Chelsea players. He was nearly gurning. Impartial indeed.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: stiffler on May 06, 2009, 10:31:17 PM
A credit to his club :D



(http://i43.tinypic.com/14ui442.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 06, 2009, 10:31:56 PM
I could understand if drogba had in anyway played well but he did f*ck all tonight to justify his hissy fit at the end..
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: deiseach on May 06, 2009, 10:32:38 PM
Thought for a second that the ref's name was Tom Denning. Now that would have been an appalling vista.

I'll get my coat . . .
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: AZOffaly on May 06, 2009, 10:34:43 PM
In fairness lads, that was bareback riding by the ref and his assistants. Having said that, the behaviour at the end was worse than anything United have ever done, and they took a lot of stick for that. It was way worse than Mascerano's lunacy at old trafford last year.

Chelsea were done up there I think, but just by bad decisions. To claim UEFA didn't want a second English team there is nuts. Why send off Abidal? Why not give the peno for Henry?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: StGallsGAA on May 06, 2009, 10:36:02 PM
Thats the 3rd time Chelsea as a club have disgraced themselves and English football in home European ties  like noveau riche pigs at the dining table. 

They've ticked almost every box in the hall of shame with allegations of racism, death threats, violence, poor sportmanship etc. Sit back and wait for more threats against he officials and Chelsea to then claim it's nothing to do with them or their fans.  They are the Rangers of the premiership and should be banned from European football for a year at least.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: stew on May 06, 2009, 10:37:43 PM
After seeing Chelsea act like that I am glad they were beaten. What a classless shower of hoors. Drogba should be heavily fined for that outburst. At least the final will be watchable now that the most negative team in Europe is out. :'(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2009, 10:38:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 06, 2009, 10:30:41 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2009, 10:29:06 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 06, 2009, 10:22:29 PM
Jamie Redknapp talking bollocks about the fact that the ref shouldnt have been allowed to referee a match of that significance as he is from Norway and they arent used to that pace in Norway, has he ever f**king watched Italian football. The ref was shit, now Chelsea know how Uniteds opposition feel every week in the EPL.........

Is that who kept going on with that bullshit - I thought his rants were a disgrace and he should be pulled up on it.
What the f**k does it matter where the ref is from.  

I think it is more to do with the fact he is Frank Lampards cousin and pally with the English Chelsea players. He was nearly gurning. Impartial indeed.
f**k aye forgot about him being Lampard's cousin.  

I missed Drogba talking to the camera  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Doogie Browser on May 06, 2009, 10:41:11 PM
Bill didn't take long to lose his objectivity on RTE, he was delighted Chelsea were knocked out because of their antics towards the ref.
Lampard's cousin! is a tool and Sky inflict him on us for almost every big game, disgrace. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: ONeill on May 06, 2009, 10:41:22 PM
As HS says, Chelsea were dicked. They were managing to get through anyway despite the ref but the goal followed by the dodgy penalty call was just too much and they exploded. It's totally understandable at such an important time of the season and I'd imagine Utd, Arsenal and Barca would've reacted the same way. Rooney would have been like a bull and Ronaldo would've been jumping up and down crying. Fergie too. Arsenal wouldn't have been any better.

So those are calling the Chelsea players wankers etc are only doing so out of petty rivalry and it's a bit shallow (and that's coming from someone who has little time and a fine dislike for the National Front club of the Premier League).

Good result for Utd though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: StGallsGAA on May 06, 2009, 10:41:35 PM
Viva John Terry,
Viva John Terry,
Thought he was going to Rome
Now he's stayin at home
Viva John Terry!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: ONeill on May 06, 2009, 10:45:18 PM
Yes, that's three threads you've posted that in. Well done.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Sandino on May 06, 2009, 10:51:25 PM
I agree with O'Neills coment chelsea's reaction was unprofessional but understandable, again objectivity is lost in all the bitterness. How many of those penalties would Manchester United have been given if they had been playing at home. No time for chelsea by the way!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 06, 2009, 11:02:51 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 11:04:36 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 06, 2009, 11:02:51 PM
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Thanks Gabriel - class.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: ONeill on May 06, 2009, 11:04:54 PM
How are you feckers putting up those types of attachments?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: stew on May 06, 2009, 11:08:14 PM
Quote from: Sandino on May 06, 2009, 10:51:25 PM
I agree with O'Neills coment chelsea's reaction was unprofessional but understandable, again objectivity is lost in all the bitterness. How many of those penalties would Manchester United have been given if they had been playing at home. No time for chelsea by the way!

The problem is they have players who dive incessantly, Drogba is the worlds worst by the way and they are becoming victims of their own scam and good enough for them. I know United and arsenal players etc do the same but not to the extent Chelsea do. Hell slap it up them, Hiddink is a class act and too good to be managing a classless organization like Chelsea.

United and Barcelo will be a far better game than United Chelsea would have been, they are unwatchable and the tactics they employ with that kind of talent makes no sense at all. Arsenal win feck all but they are young and wonderful to watch, their time is coming.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: stiffler on May 06, 2009, 11:09:50 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2009, 11:15:35 PM
Gotta start by saying that Chelsea's players at the end were out or order, but O'Neill hit the thing bacng on the head. We cry every week as players lift £100k and don't give a shite. We say that they don't care like the fans do.

Will anyone who is a fan of their club, honestly tell me that you've just played 180 minutes against one of Europe's so called great sides. You're leading one nil, and have been frustrated by the fact that the ref has turned down not one, not two, but four good penalty kicks (I have been watching football all my life, and I don't think that I have ever seen that before), and then Barce nick one.

So would none of you react like the Chelsea players did? What would Rooney, Ronaldo, Mascherano, Fabregas etc have done. FFS United players a few years back chased Andy Durso around the pitch because a decision went against them.

I said earlier today that Chelsea needed a good ref. We didn't get him. Yes there was some diving by the Chelsea players, but there was also a fair bit from the Barce players, as there is a fair bit by Ronaldo. It happens. It shouldn't. The ref was awful. So awful I really got to question his impartiality. Malouda was fouled by Alves inside the box, Abidal pulled then kicked Drogba, Pique batted one away with his hand, and then Ballack's last minute was also blocked by the hand. All penalties. Every one.

People will say, aye but Abidal didn't foul Anelka. You're right. Contact was accidental... and the linesman flagged it.

I know people will shout paranoia, but when UEFA call the Chelsea manager 'the enemy of football', the ghost goal at Anfield, Drogba's phantom red card at Nou Camp that was preceeded by Rijkard going into the ref's room at half time, and the ref's failure to red card Ferdinand last year.... and then this you do get fucked off.

As for the game. I thought Chelsea were brilliant. 90 odd minutes of hard work, that restricted the team that have scored 160 odd goals to not a f**king sniff until Iniesta's shot. Malouda was fantastic, and worked up and down the line all night. All this talk of Messi, and it was Frank Lampard's vision that lit the night up for me. The only team creating anything was Chelsea. Eto, Messi etc were boxed up and put to bed.

Anyhow I'll probably go off on a tangent, and I am sure there will be the usual witty replies (Can't wait).

Last thing... Congratulations to Manchester United on winning the CL. They'll outclass that lot.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 06, 2009, 11:18:35 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 06, 2009, 11:07:51 PM
Smart people on F365 I would imagine.

Smart people on F365  :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: under the bar on May 06, 2009, 11:19:48 PM
QuoteHow many of those penalties would Manchester United have been given if they had been playing at home.

But for blatant refereeing mistakes regarding penalties & disallowed legitimate goals United would have won the Treble last year, the double the year before and would be on for a Quintuple this year.   ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 11:20:22 PM
Quote from: stiffler on May 06, 2009, 11:09:50 PM
(http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt274/pnugent3/DROGBASHOCKINGNEWS.jpg)


Great stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Midman on May 06, 2009, 11:22:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2009, 11:15:35 PM
Gotta start by saying that Chelsea's players at the end were out or order, but O'Neill hit the thing bacng on the head. We cry every week as players lift £100k and don't give a shite. We say that they don't care like the fans do.

Will anyone who is a fan of their club, honestly tell me that you've just played 180 minutes against one of Europe's so called great sides. You're leading one nil, and have been frustrated by the fact that the ref has turned down not one, not two, but four good penalty kicks (I have been watching football all my life, and I don't think that I have ever seen that before), and then Barce nick one.

So would none of you react like the Chelsea players did? What would Rooney, Ronaldo, Mascherano, Fabregas etc have done. FFS United players a few years back chased Andy Durso around the pitch because a decision went against them.

I said earlier today that Chelsea needed a good ref. We didn't get him. Yes there was some diving by the Chelsea players, but there was also a fair bit from the Barce players, as there is a fair bit by Ronaldo. It happens. It shouldn't. The ref was awful. So awful I really got to question his impartiality. Malouda was fouled by Alves inside the box, Abidal pulled then kicked Drogba, Pique batted one away with his hand, and then Ballack's last minute was also blocked by the hand. All penalties. Every one.

People will say, aye but Abidal didn't foul Anelka. You're right. Contact was accidental... and the linesman flagged it.

I know people will shout paranoia, but when UEFA call the Chelsea manager 'the enemy of football', the ghost goal at Anfield, Drogba's phantom red card at Nou Camp that was preceeded by Rijkard going into the ref's room at half time, and the ref's failure to red card Ferdinand last year.... and then this you do get fucked off.

As for the game. I thought Chelsea were brilliant. 90 odd minutes of hard work, that restricted the team that have scored 160 odd goals to not a f**king sniff until Iniesta's shot. Malouda was fantastic, and worked up and down the line all night. All this talk of Messi, and it was Frank Lampard's vision that lit the night up for me. The only team creating anything was Chelsea. Eto, Messi etc were boxed up and put to bed.

Anyhow I'll probably go off on a tangent, and I am sure there will be the usual witty replies (Can't wait).

Last thing... Congratulations to Manchester United on winning the CL. They'll outclass that lot.

Im with you apart from that one, the consequences of not giving that goal would have been worse for Chelsea. Even as a big Barça fan i was gutted for your boys tonight, especially Essien who is a Diamond. It would have made me happy to see you get another go at United. As it is all i can say is hard luck and I do sincerely hope you win it before this team dissolves
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: imtommygunn on May 06, 2009, 11:24:39 PM
The behaviour of chelsea players and manager in years gone by against barcelona was nothing short of disgraceful and you have to wonder did that kind of thing come back to haunt them. They didn't cover themselves in glory tonight either.

I saw brief highlights and would have to say I didn't think Drogba's was a penalty however Pique definitely handled and one of the other one's had a good shout.

The ghost goal at anfield is also something which annoys me greatly... The goalie was getting the line and a penalty was going to be given were it not a goal.

I'm not a Liverpool Man U or Arsenal fan. I was equally as disgusted when Thierry Henry made his outburst after the  Barca Arsenal CL final.

If Drogba had taken his chances chelsea would be through too so you can scapegoat the ref but they should have scored more than one.

Every time chelsea or england lose in a big tournament it;s the same drill. It's the ref.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Capt Pat on May 06, 2009, 11:24:47 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2009, 11:15:35 PM
Gotta start by saying that Chelsea's players at the end were out or order, but O'Neill hit the thing bacng on the head. We cry every week as players lift £100k and don't give a shite. We say that they don't care like the fans do.

Will anyone who is a fan of their club, honestly tell me that you've just played 180 minutes against one of Europe's so called great sides. You're leading one nil, and have been frustrated by the fact that the ref has turned down not one, not two, but four good penalty kicks (I have been watching football all my life, and I don't think that I have ever seen that before), and then Barce nick one.

So would none of you react like the Chelsea players did? What would Rooney, Ronaldo, Mascherano, Fabregas etc have done. FFS United players a few years back chased Andy Durso around the pitch because a decision went against them.

I said earlier today that Chelsea needed a good ref. We didn't get him. Yes there was some diving by the Chelsea players, but there was also a fair bit from the Barce players, as there is a fair bit by Ronaldo. It happens. It shouldn't. The ref was awful. So awful I really got to question his impartiality. Malouda was fouled by Alves inside the box, Abidal pulled then kicked Drogba, Pique batted one away with his hand, and then Ballack's last minute was also blocked by the hand. All penalties. Every one.

People will say, aye but Abidal didn't foul Anelka. You're right. Contact was accidental... and the linesman flagged it.

I know people will shout paranoia, but when UEFA call the Chelsea manager 'the enemy of football', the ghost goal at Anfield, Drogba's phantom red card at Nou Camp that was preceeded by Rijkard going into the ref's room at half time, and the ref's failure to red card Ferdinand last year.... and then this you do get fucked off.

As for the game. I thought Chelsea were brilliant. 90 odd minutes of hard work, that restricted the team that have scored 160 odd goals to not a f**king sniff until Iniesta's shot. Malouda was fantastic, and worked up and down the line all night. All this talk of Messi, and it was Frank Lampard's vision that lit the night up for me. The only team creating anything was Chelsea. Eto, Messi etc were boxed up and put to bed.

Anyhow I'll probably go off on a tangent, and I am sure there will be the usual witty replies (Can't wait).

Last thing... Congratulations to Manchester United on winning the CL. They'll outclass that lot.

No I think O'Neil and yourself are missing the point. As far as I see it the Chelsea players were not entitled to react or behave the way they did. They were hard done by with a referees decision in a close fought match. This happens all the time in sports and it does not excuse the type of reactions we saw from the Chelsea players tonight. They spent the whole night diving and cheating trying to win penalties and got a barcelona player sent  off in the worng who will now miss the Champions League final as a result. They did not deserve to win as they did not take their chances.

Yes it is true we have all over reacted to a referees decision on a sports pitch in our time and I am always giving out about referees decision when my team loses a tight game. However on the whole Chelsea were not robbed they got a little bit of bad luck. Deal with it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: corn02 on May 06, 2009, 11:25:40 PM
Norf = the phantom goal at Liverppol. Referee said if the goal was not give n it would have been Cech off and a penalty so you're clutching at straws there.

Was unable to see the match, avatars are funny as f**k, but if that is all Ballack and Drogba done it isn't that bad - unless they did other things that have not been posted on this thread?  ???

Can;t say i'm too gutted for Drogba though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: ONeill on May 06, 2009, 11:26:58 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 06, 2009, 11:24:47 PM

They spent the whole night diving and cheating trying to win penalties and got a barcelona player sent  off in the worng who will now miss the Champions League final as a result.

That one sentence is an example of why you can't be taken seriously.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: laceer on May 06, 2009, 11:28:19 PM
Drogba's a big fanny.Chelsea were robbed
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Capt Pat on May 06, 2009, 11:30:00 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 06, 2009, 11:26:58 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 06, 2009, 11:24:47 PM

They spent the whole night diving and cheating trying to win penalties and got a barcelona player sent  off in the worng who will now miss the Champions League final as a result.

That one sentence is an example of why you can't be taken seriously.

Seriously, whats wrong with it? Anelka took a dive like himself and Drogba were doing all night. I am not a fool and was not born yesterday. I am not a football expert but have been watching football for years but that was a dive where he tripped himself up. A blatant case of simulation.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2009, 11:31:12 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 06, 2009, 11:24:47 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2009, 11:15:35 PM
Gotta start by saying that Chelsea's players at the end were out or order, but O'Neill hit the thing bacng on the head. We cry every week as players lift £100k and don't give a shite. We say that they don't care like the fans do.

Will anyone who is a fan of their club, honestly tell me that you've just played 180 minutes against one of Europe's so called great sides. You're leading one nil, and have been frustrated by the fact that the ref has turned down not one, not two, but four good penalty kicks (I have been watching football all my life, and I don't think that I have ever seen that before), and then Barce nick one.

So would none of you react like the Chelsea players did? What would Rooney, Ronaldo, Mascherano, Fabregas etc have done. FFS United players a few years back chased Andy Durso around the pitch because a decision went against them.

I said earlier today that Chelsea needed a good ref. We didn't get him. Yes there was some diving by the Chelsea players, but there was also a fair bit from the Barce players, as there is a fair bit by Ronaldo. It happens. It shouldn't. The ref was awful. So awful I really got to question his impartiality. Malouda was fouled by Alves inside the box, Abidal pulled then kicked Drogba, Pique batted one away with his hand, and then Ballack's last minute was also blocked by the hand. All penalties. Every one.

People will say, aye but Abidal didn't foul Anelka. You're right. Contact was accidental... and the linesman flagged it.

I know people will shout paranoia, but when UEFA call the Chelsea manager 'the enemy of football', the ghost goal at Anfield, Drogba's phantom red card at Nou Camp that was preceeded by Rijkard going into the ref's room at half time, and the ref's failure to red card Ferdinand last year.... and then this you do get fucked off.

As for the game. I thought Chelsea were brilliant. 90 odd minutes of hard work, that restricted the team that have scored 160 odd goals to not a f**king sniff until Iniesta's shot. Malouda was fantastic, and worked up and down the line all night. All this talk of Messi, and it was Frank Lampard's vision that lit the night up for me. The only team creating anything was Chelsea. Eto, Messi etc were boxed up and put to bed.

Anyhow I'll probably go off on a tangent, and I am sure there will be the usual witty replies (Can't wait).

Last thing... Congratulations to Manchester United on winning the CL. They'll outclass that lot.

No I think O'Neil and yourself are missing the point. As far as I see it the Chelsea players were not entitled to react or behave the way they did. They were hard done by with a referees decision in a close fought match. This happens all the time in sports and it does not excuse the type of reactions we saw from the Chelsea players tonight. They spent the whole night diving and cheating trying to win penalties and got a barcelona player sent  off in the worng who will now miss the Champions League final as a result. They did not deserve to win as they did not take their chances.

Yes it is true we have all over reacted to a referees decision on a sports pitch in our time and I am always giving out about referees decision when my team loses a tight game. However on the whole Chelsea were not robbed they got a little bit of bad luck. Deal with it.

No one is saying they are entitled to react like that. They aren't. But everyone here is in an ivory tower if they think that football is a passionate game, and they too would react like that in a simialr situation.
I don't think they spent the whole night diving and cheating. It happened on occasions... I've seen worse. Much worse.
Chelsea never got a Barce player sent off in the wrong. He did trip Anelka, albeit accidental. It was NOT a dive.

What's the differance between 'not robbed' and'bad luck'. I think it's the phrase.
You say bad luck... I say robbed. I think the team that most deserved to go through.... didn't.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2009, 11:32:11 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 06, 2009, 11:30:00 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 06, 2009, 11:26:58 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 06, 2009, 11:24:47 PM

They spent the whole night diving and cheating trying to win penalties and got a barcelona player sent  off in the worng who will now miss the Champions League final as a result.

That one sentence is an example of why you can't be taken seriously.

Seriously, whats wrong with it? Anelka took a dive like himself and Drogba were doing all night. I am not a fool and was not born yesterday. I am not a football expert but have been watching football for years but that was a dive where he tripped himself up. A blatant case of simulation.

Is that not a contradiction.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: corn02 on May 06, 2009, 11:35:21 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2009, 11:31:12 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 06, 2009, 11:24:47 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2009, 11:15:35 PM
Gotta start by saying that Chelsea's players at the end were out or order, but O'Neill hit the thing bacng on the head. We cry every week as players lift £100k and don't give a shite. We say that they don't care like the fans do.

Will anyone who is a fan of their club, honestly tell me that you've just played 180 minutes against one of Europe's so called great sides. You're leading one nil, and have been frustrated by the fact that the ref has turned down not one, not two, but four good penalty kicks (I have been watching football all my life, and I don't think that I have ever seen that before), and then Barce nick one.

So would none of you react like the Chelsea players did? What would Rooney, Ronaldo, Mascherano, Fabregas etc have done. FFS United players a few years back chased Andy Durso around the pitch because a decision went against them.

I said earlier today that Chelsea needed a good ref. We didn't get him. Yes there was some diving by the Chelsea players, but there was also a fair bit from the Barce players, as there is a fair bit by Ronaldo. It happens. It shouldn't. The ref was awful. So awful I really got to question his impartiality. Malouda was fouled by Alves inside the box, Abidal pulled then kicked Drogba, Pique batted one away with his hand, and then Ballack's last minute was also blocked by the hand. All penalties. Every one.

People will say, aye but Abidal didn't foul Anelka. You're right. Contact was accidental... and the linesman flagged it.

I know people will shout paranoia, but when UEFA call the Chelsea manager 'the enemy of football', the ghost goal at Anfield, Drogba's phantom red card at Nou Camp that was preceeded by Rijkard going into the ref's room at half time, and the ref's failure to red card Ferdinand last year.... and then this you do get fucked off.

As for the game. I thought Chelsea were brilliant. 90 odd minutes of hard work, that restricted the team that have scored 160 odd goals to not a f**king sniff until Iniesta's shot. Malouda was fantastic, and worked up and down the line all night. All this talk of Messi, and it was Frank Lampard's vision that lit the night up for me. The only team creating anything was Chelsea. Eto, Messi etc were boxed up and put to bed.

Anyhow I'll probably go off on a tangent, and I am sure there will be the usual witty replies (Can't wait).

Last thing... Congratulations to Manchester United on winning the CL. They'll outclass that lot.

No I think O'Neil and yourself are missing the point. As far as I see it the Chelsea players were not entitled to react or behave the way they did. They were hard done by with a referees decision in a close fought match. This happens all the time in sports and it does not excuse the type of reactions we saw from the Chelsea players tonight. They spent the whole night diving and cheating trying to win penalties and got a barcelona player sent  off in the worng who will now miss the Champions League final as a result. They did not deserve to win as they did not take their chances.

Yes it is true we have all over reacted to a referees decision on a sports pitch in our time and I am always giving out about referees decision when my team loses a tight game. However on the whole Chelsea were not robbed they got a little bit of bad luck. Deal with it.

No one is saying they are entitled to react like that. They aren't. But everyone here is in an ivory tower if they think that football is a passionate game, and they too would react like that in a simialr situation.
I don't think they spent the whole night diving and cheating. It happened on occasions... I've seen worse. Much worse.
Chelsea never got a Barce player sent off in the wrong. He did trip Anelka, albeit accidental. It was NOT a dive.

What's the differance between 'not robbed' and'bad luck'. I think it's the phrase.
You say bad luck... I say robbed. I think the team that most deserved to go through.... didn't.

I only saw the first leg, but the fact that Chelsea kept Barca to one shot on target would back that up Norf.

I hated this whole Chelsea destroying football. f**k that, defence is as much a part of football as attacking. Hard luck.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Doogie Browser on May 06, 2009, 11:36:57 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2009, 11:15:35 PM
Gotta start by saying that Chelsea's players at the end were out or order, but O'Neill hit the thing bacng on the head. We cry every week as players lift £100k and don't give a shite. We say that they don't care like the fans do.

Will anyone who is a fan of their club, honestly tell me that you've just played 180 minutes against one of Europe's so called great sides. You're leading one nil, and have been frustrated by the fact that the ref has turned down not one, not two, but four good penalty kicks (I have been watching football all my life, and I don't think that I have ever seen that before), and then Barce nick one.

So would none of you react like the Chelsea players did? What would Rooney, Ronaldo, Mascherano, Fabregas etc have done. FFS United players a few years back chased Andy Durso around the pitch because a decision went against them.

I said earlier today that Chelsea needed a good ref. We didn't get him. Yes there was some diving by the Chelsea players, but there was also a fair bit from the Barce players, as there is a fair bit by Ronaldo. It happens. It shouldn't. The ref was awful. So awful I really got to question his impartiality. Malouda was fouled by Alves inside the box, Abidal pulled then kicked Drogba, Pique batted one away with his hand, and then Ballack's last minute was also blocked by the hand. All penalties. Every one.

People will say, aye but Abidal didn't foul Anelka. You're right. Contact was accidental... and the linesman flagged it.

I know people will shout paranoia, but when UEFA call the Chelsea manager 'the enemy of football', the ghost goal at Anfield, Drogba's phantom red card at Nou Camp that was preceeded by Rijkard going into the ref's room at half time, and the ref's failure to red card Ferdinand last year.... and then this you do get fucked off.

As for the game. I thought Chelsea were brilliant. 90 odd minutes of hard work, that restricted the team that have scored 160 odd goals to not a f**king sniff until Iniesta's shot. Malouda was fantastic, and worked up and down the line all night. All this talk of Messi, and it was Frank Lampard's vision that lit the night up for me. The only team creating anything was Chelsea. Eto, Messi etc were boxed up and put to bed.

Anyhow I'll probably go off on a tangent, and I am sure there will be the usual witty replies (Can't wait).

Last thing... Congratulations to Manchester United on winning the CL. They'll outclass that lot.
Comprehensive as usual Norf, you always give us your honest opinions no one can deny you that. 
The away goal rule really does make for nervy endings to these kind of games, you just could not relax at one nil though, as I always had a feeling they would get one last chance.  Commiserations tonight, Hiddink as been a good figurehead for Chelsea these past few months also. 
One afterthought, was Cech blameless for the goal?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: ONeill on May 06, 2009, 11:39:29 PM
Barcelona defender Gerard Pique:  "When we had 10 men it was really hard, but we managed to score in the last minute and there are no words to describe how happy the team is at the moment. It was enough for us to qualify for the final. When the ball touched my arm I didn't want to touch it, but you have to respect the decision of the referee."

Chelsea boss Guus Hiddink: "I'm still very disappointed of course, it's not easy to analyse the game when the adrenaline is running. We should and could have scored more, we could talk about the not-given penalties. There were four tonight, and they boys feel, well, it's a little injustice. But in the second half, we should have wrapped it up. We should have had four penalties. As for the end of the game, I can fully understand the disappointment of the players and I will protect them for what they did because they had loads of adrenaline in their bodies."
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Hiddink Era (For a while anyhow)!
Post by: ONeill on May 06, 2009, 11:40:51 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 06, 2009, 11:30:00 PM

I am not a football expert but have been watching football for years but that was a dive where he tripped himself up. A blatant case of simulation.

Mmm, quote of the year?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2009, 11:41:37 PM
Honestly lads and I'm no fan of Chelsea as NT will testify, they couldn't have been any more ridden even if they were in the George tonight. Players react all the time and in such an emotive ending why wouldn't they go ballastic especially when many of the Chelsea players mightn't get a chance to compete in a CL final again. The game itself was a much better spectacle than last nights but Chelsea just weren't as clinical as Man U, penalty appeals aside they had chances and just didn't take them.

Sill for the neutral Man U v Barca is a lot more appealing so will be grateful for that.

UEFA will come down hard on Chelsea, Drogba and Ballack will probably get match bans.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2009, 11:44:08 PM
I don't think Cech was at fault Doogie in any way to be honest. Maybe if I see it again, I'll reconsider. Essien probably at fault, but it was a tired clearance, and I noticed on 85 minutes, how f**ked Lampard, Malouda and Essien looked.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 11:45:33 PM
(http://www.footballgifs.co.uk/custom/capture-11.gif)

if ballack had just stood up here, i dont believe he would have been so incensed at that final penalty denial  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: ONeill on May 06, 2009, 11:47:50 PM
As much as I'd love to find fault with Lardlampard, his touch was brilliant tonight. His through balls whilst off-balance was as good as any midfielder in Europe.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: corn02 on May 06, 2009, 11:48:23 PM
First time seeing the goal, why did Ballack duck?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2009, 11:49:23 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 06, 2009, 11:48:23 PM
First time seeing the goal, why did Ballack duck?

He was spreading himself for the low drive I'd guess.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2009, 11:49:34 PM
Quote from: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 11:45:33 PM
(http://www.footballgifs.co.uk/custom/capture-11.gif)

if ballack had just stood up here, i dont believe he would have been so incensed at that final penalty denial  ::)

Thought Lampard made a poor effort to get back as well for the goal.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 11:51:55 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2009, 11:49:23 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 06, 2009, 11:48:23 PM
First time seeing the goal, why did Ballack duck?

He was spreading himself for the low drive I'd guess.

He seems more worried about getting hit with the ball than any low drive
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 11:52:25 PM
Quote from: Stalin on May 06, 2009, 11:45:33 PM
(http://www.footballgifs.co.uk/custom/capture-11.gif)

if ballack had just stood up here, i dont believe he would have been so incensed at that final penalty denial  ::)

Did Ballack think he was facing a firing squad or what ???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: corn02 on May 06, 2009, 11:55:36 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2009, 11:49:23 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 06, 2009, 11:48:23 PM
First time seeing the goal, why did Ballack duck?

He was spreading himself for the low drive I'd guess.

Don't think so Norf, he turns his body away from the ball and ducks a bit, I think he has to take a bit of the blame there.


Brace yourself for a few days of smiley faces on here Norf.

At least your posts are reasoned and well thought out.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2009, 12:02:07 AM
Quote from: corn02 on May 06, 2009, 11:55:36 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2009, 11:49:23 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 06, 2009, 11:48:23 PM
First time seeing the goal, why did Ballack duck?

He was spreading himself for the low drive I'd guess.

Don't think so Norf, he turns his body away from the ball and ducks a bit, I think he has to take a bit of the blame there.


Brace yourself for a few days of smiley faces on here Norf.

At least your posts are reasoned and well thought out.


Oh I know. There are only a few posters whos opinions are reasoned enough (Or witty) for me to take seriously.

Anyhow bed time beckons, and a day of sympathy from my colleagues.

My anger has subsided a wee bit at this stage, and I can look back at 'boring', 'defensive' Chelsea's Euro run that included a 4 goal clinker with Juve, a stunning 3 goal salvo in Anfield, being involved in one of the greatest CL games ever, and blunting (almost) the so-called world's greatest attacking threat, and only a ref can knock us off the rails.

Gotta be proud.

KTBFFH
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 12:04:03 AM
WE WUZ ROBBED!!!!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Stalin on May 07, 2009, 12:04:33 AM
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Main Street on May 07, 2009, 12:07:28 AM
Any team who would react like that would deserve the same ridicule and censure that will certainly be heaped Chelsea's way
The refs are emasculated in soccer. It's about time they were allowed to dish out yellows and red cards for challenges to their authority.
You'd think that soccer players were a special breed apart from the rest of the sporting community with the way they assume they have a prerogative to moan at the ref, with every decision.

Over the 2 legs Barcelona deserved it. The late goal was justice served, ice cold.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2009, 12:08:36 AM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 12:04:03 AM
WE WUZ ROBBED!!!!  :D :D :D


Excellent contribution mr reincarnation.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Stalin on May 07, 2009, 12:18:04 AM
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jesus.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 07, 2009, 12:23:59 AM
Thats some white eyes

Is that racist?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 12:28:13 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2009, 12:08:36 AM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 12:04:03 AM
WE WUZ ROBBED!!!!  :D :D :D


Excellent contribution mr reincarnation.

Your reaction gives me the satisfaction that it was certainly worthwhile!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 12:35:49 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 07, 2009, 12:05:57 AM
QuoteKTBFFH
Kill The Blacks For Fuhrer Hitler?

Kalou, Terry, Ballack; Fat F**king Hoors
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Capt Pat on May 07, 2009, 12:47:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=videos&search_query=iniesta&search_sort=video_date_uploaded&page=1

Here are some nice highlights of the final goal from Spain and other places. Dig throught the links to find the best ones, lots of fun.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: AFS on May 07, 2009, 01:42:45 AM
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 07, 2009, 12:47:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=videos&search_query=iniesta&search_sort=video_date_uploaded&page=1

Here are some nice highlights of the final goal from Spain and other places. Dig throught the links to find the best ones, lots of fun.

That Iniesta chant has to be the most unimaginative crap chant in European football.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Hound on May 07, 2009, 07:55:35 AM
Chelsea have only themselves to blame in my opinion.

Decisions go for and against you in every game. There was no way the Barca guy should have been sent off - he did not trip Anelka (Anelka tripped over himself), and even if he had, the CB was covering.

Then Hiddink made a huge mistake - bringing on Beletti. Sending out the clear message, we hold what we have. Barca were there for the taking, and Chelsea didnt take the bull by the horns. Then the double mistake from Essien and Ballack and they get punished. They should never have left themselves in a position where a last minute goal could knock them out.

I thought Barca were awful. Passing backwards and sideways mostly, no penetration whatsoever. Chelsea were very comfortable, and should be kicking themselves that they werent more positive. Great finish by Iniesta though and great celebrations!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Abble on May 07, 2009, 07:56:18 AM
LOL funniest nights football i've watched in long and manys a day  ;D


some comparison in chelsea players in minute before kickoff and the minute after the final whistle !!

before the start EVERY chelsea player went in and gave drogba a nice big hug as if he had just came straight from his anger management class......97 mins later he was not a safe man to go near !!!! LOL CLASS STUFF
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Minder on May 07, 2009, 08:15:33 AM
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: full back on May 07, 2009, 08:21:54 AM
Tremendous finish to a sh1te semi-final
Drogba is a joke of a man & a 'f**king disgrace'  :D
If he had taken the chance he had, there wouldnt be a problem

Chelsea should have had 2/3 penalties, dont understand how the refereee could miss all of them, although Henry should have had 1 in the first leg.
2 super goals on the night

Was watching Sky & after the break it came back & showed Drogba losing the rag. Someone was supposed to edit out the word 'f**king' but instead took out the word 'disgrace' and left in f**king  :D

BTW, Jamie Redknapp is a hateful little b4stard. How Sky see fit to pay that w4nker wages to talk about games, I will never know >:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 07, 2009, 08:41:46 AM
Quote from: full back on May 07, 2009, 08:21:54 AM
Tremendous finish to a sh1te semi-final
Drogba is a joke of a man & a 'f**king disgrace'  :D
If he had taken the chance he had, there wouldnt be a problem

Chelsea should have had 2/3 penalties, dont understand how the refereee could miss all of them, although Henry should have had 1 in the first leg.
2 super goals on the night

Was watching Sky & after the break it came back & showed Drogba losing the rag. Someone was supposed to edit out the word 'f**king' but instead took out the word 'disgrace' and left in f**king  :D

BTW, Jamie Redknapp is a hateful little b4stard. How Sky see fit to pay that w4nker wages to talk about games, I will never know >:(

Don't know how you can call it a shite match,I thought it was great viewing from start to end.

I didn't care really who won last night,but was shouting for Chelesa come the end of the game.
As for the players reactions to to the Ref,well you can hardly blame them,it just shows some players actually do care about winning and not all about the money,and I reckon I would have reacted the same way if it was a game I was after playing in as would a lot who post here I would imgaine.
Some United fans have awful short memories too with some of the shite they are spouting about players treatment of Refs over the last few pages of this thread...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: cavan4ever on May 07, 2009, 08:45:44 AM
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 07, 2009, 09:10:02 AM
chelsea are a really boring team to watch. 2 good footballing teams in the final. Thank fcuk chelsea are out. Duno how that Keita player gets on for Barca he is shite.

p.s what the fcuk was up with malouda's hair?

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Bensars on May 07, 2009, 09:19:36 AM
Up until the start of the game last night i wouldnt have minded chelsea v man u final. However Drogba's antics were a total disgrace and in the end i was glad to see barca go through, more importantly, the way they went through.

Is there a more dishonest player around at the minute than drogba? IMO hes the worst i have ever seen.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Rossie11 on May 07, 2009, 09:20:45 AM
CFC only have themselves to blame.
If Drogba had stayed on his feet and buried one of the chances they would be in the final.
He looks to collaspe when he crosses the whitewash every time
Only the Pique handball was a peno. Essien handled in the 1st half so they cancel out in my book.

It was a seriously cowardly performance from Chelsea.
They were a goal up, a man up and Barca played the last half hour with only 1 defender on the pitch!!  and CFC went defending..
Got what they deserve..
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2009, 09:41:59 AM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on May 07, 2009, 09:10:02 AM
chelsea are a really boring team to watch. 2 good footballing teams in the final. Thank fcuk chelsea are out. Duno how that Keita player gets on for Barca he is shite.


Remind me how many goals last year's Man U v Barcelona 180 minutes produced?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Abble on May 07, 2009, 09:52:51 AM
Quote from: Bensars on May 07, 2009, 09:19:36 AM
Is there a more dishonest player around at the minute than drogba?

NO.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: orangeman on May 07, 2009, 09:55:58 AM
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Phil McNulty | 01:40 UK time, Thursday, 7 May 2009

Tom Henning Ovrebo is a psychologist by profession - and Chelsea's Didier Drogba provided an unpalatable close up study in human behaviour for the Norwegian referee amid bitter recriminations at Stamford Bridge.

Chelsea appear eternally doomed in their quest to fill the largest empty space in their trophy room - a Champions League title. They can throw the game's largest cheque book at it, they can change players and they can change coaches, but they still cannot change their luck.

Claudio Ranieri's tinkering squandered a semi-final against Monaco in 2004. Luis Garcia's controversial "ghost goal" did for them against Liverpool in the last four a year later and John Terry's slip in a Moscow downpour resulted in him missing what could have been a winning penalty against Mancheser United in last year's final.

This season's hard luck story will centre on a burly and balding official whose failure to make the big calls correctly drove the high maintenance Drogba over any acceptable line of behaviour as Chelsea were denied another final appearance against United by Barcelona midfield man Andres Iniesta's decisive away goal in injury time.

Yes, Ovrebo had a shocker and proved wholly inadequate to take control of a game of this pace, passion and magnitude, but even his regular refusals of presentable penalty appeals must not excuse Drogba's disgraceful actions on the final whistle...

Chelsea had just cause to take issue with Ovrebo's decision-making.
Guus Hiddink's team can rightly feel hard done by in a tie they had won until Iniesta, like a desperate boxer taking one last swing, lashed a 20-yard finish high past Petr Cech with 90 seconds left.

It was a puncher's chance and Chelsea took the knockout blow.

Conspiracy theorists will claim an implausible sub-plot was that Uefa did not want another all-Premier League final and Ovrebo had somehow sub-consciously pleased his bosses by denying Chelsea at every turn, thus ensuring Barcelona gave the final a Catalan presence.

The key exhibits were his decision to place a first-half foul on Florent Malouda outside the area when it plainly took place inside and his waving away of two handball claims against Gerard Pique and Samuel Eto'o after the break. Various perceived fouls inside the area were also all met with firm rejections.

All this Grassy Knoll-style chatter is nonsense of course and Hiddink was careful in the extreme to ensure he did not bite, contenting himself with the not inconsiderable claim that this was the worst refereeing performance he had ever seen, an observation he was perfectly within his rights to make.

Frustating yes. Sinister no.

Ovrebo was plainly ill-suited to the task but it should also be remembered he harshly sent off Barcelona's Eric Abidal and Pep Guardiola's side actually cut it rather fine by leaving it so late to level Michael Essien's magnificent bludgeon of a strike after nine minutes.

And whatever Ovrebo did, it did not give Drogba the right to march on to the pitch at the final whistle, clad in his Chelsea kit and flip-flops like some enraged holidaymaker, and subject the referee to an out-of-control verbal barrage accompanied by some fairly threatening body language.

Drogba, who was splendid until he went off injured late on, was still pursuing Ovrebo in wild-eyed fashion despite receiving a yellow card, shouting expletives into a television camera for good measure.

It was a desperate display from Drogba - a revisiting of the lack of self-discipline that saw him sent off at a pivotal moment in last season's final. The word inside Stamford Bridge after the game, was that he may well face hefty Uefa punishment and he deserves every last bit of it.

Human nature being what it is, a disappointment on the scale Chelsea had just suffered in both timing and impact - coupled with a burning sense of injustice - means adrenalin will inevitable be pumping and raw emotions will be on the surface.

Imagine how John Terry felt at being robbed of a shot at redemption after that penalty miss? Imagine how Frank Lampard felt at failing to get the chance to win the major honour that still eludes him?

They will have hurt just as badly as Drogba, if not worse, but they did not charge at Ovrebo, or have to be held back by anyone who happened to be in the vicinity.

But when Hiddink insisted he understood Drogba's behaviour, it is to be hoped this is simply a case of a manager defending his player rather than condoning what we saw at the final whistle.

In truth, Stamford Bridge's technical areas were poorly policed all night. Guardiola was asked to move away from Hiddink's territory - Chelsea's boss even appeared to be buffeted when Iniesta scored - while Barcelona's space occasionally resembled Piccadilly Circus in Friday's rush hour.

And the saddest aspect of the Drogba debacle is that it took all the attention away from so much that was good from Chelsea, who deserved a place in the final.

Chelsea were outstanding. They may not have matched Barcelona's passing, but they were the more potent team, creating the better chances before the Catalans kicked them in the teeth with their only shot on target all night.

Lionel Messi was kept to the margins, Eto'o was totally anonymous and Chelsea keeper Cech was kept out of harm's way by a superbly-marshalled defence, in which Terry was immense.

Barcelona may have weaved their pretty patterns, but such was the solidity of Chelsea's strategy that they did it in areas that were never going to hurt until the most savage wound of all was inflicted in the dying seconds.

Lampard was inspirational in midfield while Drogba demonstrated the other side of the great enigma with another powerful display up front that proved a constant source of nuisance to Barcelona's revamped defence.

It was display that did Chelsea huge credit and one that should have been rewarded with a place in the final.

Barcelona were unimpressive, and victory came at a price with both Dani Alves and Abidal, the latter unluckily, suspended from the final.

On the compelling evidence of a tumultuous evening, the more effective side is out and Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson may just be a little happier to be facing Barcelona than Chelsea.

Chelsea were just moments away from the outstanding result their effort and guts deserved - instead they were left with the bitter after-taste of defeat and the potential consequences of another loss of control from Drogba.


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: orangeman on May 07, 2009, 09:56:49 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 07, 2009, 08:15:33 AM
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Pure class.  :D :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 09:57:45 AM
Right here goes...ah f**k I couldn't be arsed >:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Rossie11 on May 07, 2009, 09:59:51 AM
Norf I know you are fairly pissed off today but whats your thoughts on Drogba?
If I was a CFC fan I would be disgusted with him and would want him out of the club.
IMO he cost you big time in the final last year getting sent off and over the 2 legs v Barca he missed the chances to
put you through to another final.
You believe that UEFA have something against CFC. I dont really have an opinion either way on this but
do you think without the likes of him in the squad that things would improve as regards hierarchy opinion..
i.e. the 50/50 decisions would go your way?


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 10:03:58 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2009, 09:41:59 AM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on May 07, 2009, 09:10:02 AM
chelsea are a really boring team to watch. 2 good footballing teams in the final. Thank fcuk chelsea are out. Duno how that Keita player gets on for Barca he is shite.


Remind me how many goals last year's Man U v Barcelona 180 minutes produced?

How dare you question United? They are untouchable round here and can't be questioned.

The biggest cripe Chelsea have last night in my opinion is that they didn't finish the job over the two legs, when they had the chances to do so. Drogba was the guilty one over the two legs and while they defended very well against a formible attacking force, I felt that they could have been a small bit braver last night and could have got the reward for it. Barca crapped themselves at every corner.

Bar Drogba going ape shit, I don't think the protests where any worse that we've seen before. Thats soccers problem as much as Chelsea's and taking Chelsea in context it was probably understandable, if still unexcuseable.

The final should be good with Barca pulling through  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Joxer on May 07, 2009, 10:35:49 AM
Drogba is a diving cheat.  He is a cheat and there iis no way of getting around that fact!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 10:47:54 AM
OK, a large cup of strong coffee on the desk and I'm feeling slightly better.  I thought I'd wait till some posters were at primary school.  In no particular order:

CONSPIRACY/FIX?:  It would be nice to hold on to the idea but definitely not.  If this was a fix why send off Abidal (unjustly)?

CHELSEA'S REACTION AT THE END:  I was somewhat embarrassed by this.  It was understandable but not excusable.  Remember too that not all of the players reacted like this (even Cole was gracious) and Hiddink showed a more reasoned reaction at the end.  I would have loved to have seen Ferguson or Wenger had their teams gone out in such dramatic fashion.  On a positive note it's great to see that Ballack actually can run, something that he hides very well during the rest of the season.  

THE PENS?:  f**k where do you start?  Truth be told I thought Chelsea should have had two penalties.  I think everyone agrees that Pique definitely handled the ball.  The other dead cert was Abidal's pull on Drogba in the first half.  It's good to see that some ABCs are of the opinion that to pull an opposing player's shirt is no longer a foul in soccer!  In fact had Rosetti been in charge of this match Abidal would have walked then.  Of the others, perversely the ref got the Malouda decision right.  He gave the free on the edge of the box for the first foul on Malouda (as the law says), problem was he didn't blow his whistle until the second incident.  As for Eto'o at the end?  Yes he did divert the ball with his arm but the ball was going like a bullet and I think it would have been very harsh.

DROGBA AND DIVING?:  I think Didier Drogba is a fantastic player and until Chelsea find someone better he should remain at the club and on ability alone if I were the manager he would be my second pick (after Essien).  But he is not without "flaws".  If Drogba (and a number of other players) concentrated on staying on his feet (and we know he is physically strong) he would score 6 or 7 goals more a season.  The root of the problem is that modern refereeing and the way FIFA is moving toward soccer being a non-contact sport encourages players to go down easliy.  If refs stopped giving fouls for players laddering their tights then they wouldn't spend so much tie on the ground.  Drogba is not the only diver in football, but he is certainly a high profile one.  All clubs have their divers both English and non-English.  Drogba and whoever manges him next year should get out the DVD of his second season at Chelsea, where for the most part he stayed on his feet scored 25 odd goals and Chelsea cantered to the title.

THE REF?:  What can you say, a poor performance, but it's a difficult job and without refs there would be no sport and don't forget there were two linesmen officiating as well.

THE FOOTBALL:  Probably 1-1 over the two legs was a fair result.  What came out of last night's match was that Barca are overrated.  OK they beat Real 6-2 in the Bernabueu...but didn't Liverpool tank Real a few weeks ago??  Real are shit.  Barca were pleasing on the eye in the opponents half but had one shot on goal in 95 mins.  Chelsea, the supposed anti football team, created far more chances and had two clear penalties turned down.  To use a golfing analogy, tee to green Barca were terrific but they can't putt for dough on the hard courses.  Chelsea kept Messi fairly quiet in both games (a very talented player but watching him makes you realise what a genius Maradona was)

Man Utd will beat them easily

Man Utd have a better defence than Chelsea and Barca have a worse defence than Chelsea.  I fancy Utd to score in the first 15 mins and then defend (like at Old Trafford last year)

WHAT CAN CHELSEA LEARN FROM THIS?

If Drogba hadn't have spent so much time on his arse there may not have been four mins added time (where did they come from)
Chelsea had chances to put this tie out of sight in both legs and didn't take them
I'm a big fan of Hiddink, but the decision to bring on Belletti wasn't a great one
Chelsea's biggest flaw was not time wasting or diving but they kept giving the ball away.  Bosingwa and Ballack were particlualrly guilty of this

HARDSTATION:  I used to like you.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: full back on May 07, 2009, 10:52:13 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 10:03:58 AM
Bar Drogba going ape shit, I don't think the protests where any worse that we've seen before.

You obviously missed a few incidents then  ::)



BTW, excellent & fair summary Quinn Martin
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: new devil on May 07, 2009, 10:52:39 AM
Hard luck NT...No worst way to get knocked out and after keeping Barca so quite for 90mins...Chelsea should of had at least 1 penalty and should of pushed more to get the 2nd goal...
Have a lot of time for Drogba has a player think hes one of the best in the world when hes on his game and not f**king about..cant really be to hard on him for going mental at the end because the ref did f**k them
Happier to be playing Barca in the final..they don't really have a plan B....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Clown on May 07, 2009, 10:57:38 AM
talk of a uefa conspiracy against english teams is ludicrous

porto had 2 penalty appeals at old trafford, one was a stonewaller - tevez taking out the attacker on the byeline

also henry had as good a shout for a pen last week as any of chelseas appeals last nite. barca players accepted the decision and got on with it
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:00:00 AM
Quote from: full back on May 07, 2009, 10:52:13 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 10:03:58 AM
Bar Drogba going ape shit, I don't think the protests where any worse that we've seen before.

You obviously missed a few incidents then  ::)



BTW, excellent & fair summary Quinn Martin

Missed what? Ballack running after ref? Can see that at regular EPL games.

A few of them confronted ref after game as happens regularly at EPL games. There wasn't all of them on his case at final whistle. It was wrong but bar Drogba we've seen it all before.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: wherefromreferee? on May 07, 2009, 11:01:38 AM
Have to applaud Quinn Martin and Norf Tyrone for not hiding away today, and for giving a fair analyisis/summary of the game.

I dont often jump on the United (or Liverpool threads), as it turns into a bitchin session, but just thought I should congratulate QM for a well thought out post.

As a United Fan, I'm happier to be playing Barca, as I think the revenge factor would have been great for Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: EC Unique on May 07, 2009, 11:03:33 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:00:00 AM
Quote from: full back on May 07, 2009, 10:52:13 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 10:03:58 AM
Bar Drogba going ape shit, I don't think the protests where any worse that we've seen before.

You obviously missed a few incidents then  ::)



BTW, excellent & fair summary Quinn Martin

Missed what? Ballack running after ref? Can see that at regular EPL games.

A few of them confronted ref after game as happens regularly at EPL games. There wasn't all of them on his case at final whistle. It was wrong but bar Drogba we've seen it all before.

Whilst running after the ref he struck him in the face!! I have never seen that in the EPL :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 11:04:17 AM
Quote from: orangeman on May 07, 2009, 09:55:58 AM

Imagine how John Terry felt at being robbed of a shot at redemption after that penalty miss? Imagine how Frank Lampard felt at failing to get the chance to win the major honour that still eludes him?

They will have hurt just as badly as Drogba, if not worse, but they did not charge at Ovrebo, or have to be held back by anyone who happened to be in the vicinity.



Thats not true Phil.

The first player in the refs face after the game was John Terry. He very much 'charged' towards the ref and gave him a barage of abuse. I think he has been overlooked in all of this and his behaviour should be considered.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 11:05:25 AM
Quote from: wherefromreferee? on May 07, 2009, 11:01:38 AM
Have to applaud Quinn Martin and Norf Tyrone for not hiding away today, and for giving a fair analyisis/summary of the game.

I dont often jump on the United (or Liverpool threads), as it turns into a bitchin session, but just thought I should congratulate QM for a well thought out post.

As a United Fan, I'm happier to be playing Barca, as I think the revenge factor would have been great for Chelsea.

wfr...as bad as I feel today I can't imagine coming on here on the 28th May having been beated 4-1 by Utd in the final!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: cavan4ever on May 07, 2009, 11:08:24 AM
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:08:53 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 07, 2009, 11:03:33 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:00:00 AM
Quote from: full back on May 07, 2009, 10:52:13 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 10:03:58 AM
Bar Drogba going ape shit, I don't think the protests where any worse that we've seen before.

You obviously missed a few incidents then  ::)



BTW, excellent & fair summary Quinn Martin

Missed what? Ballack running after ref? Can see that at regular EPL games.

A few of them confronted ref after game as happens regularly at EPL games. There wasn't all of them on his case at final whistle. It was wrong but bar Drogba we've seen it all before.

Whilst running after the ref he struck him in the face!! I have never seen that in the EPL :-\

Go away and shit yourself  ;D Struck him in face  ;D He made contact but it wasn't a slap/strike. If he struck him do you seriously think he'd be on the feild.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 11:12:53 AM
Oh I nearly forgot and just to show I'm not completely without venom...Bill O'Herlihy is a w**kstain.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Clown on May 07, 2009, 11:15:21 AM
i dont listen much to those rte clowns anymore, but did hear dunphy starting the same old rhetoric of how to behave on the pitch as kids copy players behaviour - i was waiting for him to start the whole 'great sportsmen' speech were he traditionally mentions brian o'driscoll, tiger woods, ruby walsh, aidan o'brien.
he went onto talk about the munster leinster game and said those players played it in the right spirit.
obviously gauging someone in the eye is good spirit now
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: EC Unique on May 07, 2009, 11:16:17 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:08:53 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 07, 2009, 11:03:33 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:00:00 AM
Quote from: full back on May 07, 2009, 10:52:13 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 10:03:58 AM
Bar Drogba going ape shit, I don't think the protests where any worse that we've seen before.

You obviously missed a few incidents then  ::)



BTW, excellent & fair summary Quinn Martin

Missed what? Ballack running after ref? Can see that at regular EPL games.

A few of them confronted ref after game as happens regularly at EPL games. There wasn't all of them on his case at final whistle. It was wrong but bar Drogba we've seen it all before.

Whilst running after the ref he struck him in the face!! I have never seen that in the EPL :-\

Go away and shit yourself  ;D Struck him in face  ;D He made contact but it wasn't a slap/strike. If he struck him do you seriously think he'd be on the feild.

Well Ok then, he made contact with the ref's face in an agressive manner, I have never seen that in the EPL. By the way I had a dump already today ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: EC Unique on May 07, 2009, 11:16:52 AM
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: full back on May 07, 2009, 11:17:31 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:00:00 AM
Missed what? Ballack running after ref? Can see that at regular EPL games.

:D
I think you may be trying to wind people up
Show me how we see these incidents at regualr EPL games?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: EC Unique on May 07, 2009, 11:21:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-wQI4UaBws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-wQI4UaBws)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: full back on May 07, 2009, 11:17:31 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:00:00 AM
Missed what? Ballack running after ref? Can see that at regular EPL games.

:D
I think you may be trying to wind people up
Show me how we see these incidents at regualr EPL games?

Sure you're a united supporter, look through your DVD collection.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: full back on May 07, 2009, 11:33:16 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: full back on May 07, 2009, 11:17:31 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:00:00 AM
Missed what? Ballack running after ref? Can see that at regular EPL games.

:D
I think you may be trying to wind people up
Show me how we see these incidents at regualr EPL games?

Sure you're a united supporter, look through your DVD collection.

Good comeback  ::)

You dont see that at regular EPL games
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:39:29 AM
Quote from: full back on May 07, 2009, 11:33:16 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: full back on May 07, 2009, 11:17:31 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:00:00 AM
Missed what? Ballack running after ref? Can see that at regular EPL games.

:D
I think you may be trying to wind people up
Show me how we see these incidents at regualr EPL games?

Sure you're a united supporter, look through your DVD collection.

Good comeback  ::)

You dont see that at regular EPL games

The refs get harassed at alot of EPL games by all sides, individual players, groups of players, etc.

A ref was pushed to his hole at a EPL match, Cashley Cole turned his back to a ref at an EPL game, Masch got sent off for mouthing to a ref at a EPL game, the whole respect campaign was brought in this season to try and control players from confronting refs on the field. Don't try and cod yourself.

Even Paul Galvin was at it last year.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: full back on May 07, 2009, 11:44:53 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:39:29 AM
A ref was pushed to his hole at a EPL match, Cashley Cole turned his back to a ref at an EPL game, Masch got sent off for mouthing to a ref at a EPL game, the whole respect campaign was brought in this season to try and control players from confronting refs on the field. Don't try and cod yourself.

You have mentioned 3 instances in the last 11 or 12 years, not very regular is it?  ;)

The Cole & Masch incidents werent nearly as bad as Ballack
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Billys Boots on May 07, 2009, 11:45:03 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 10:47:54 AM
OK, a large cup of strong coffee on the desk and I'm feeling slightly better.  I thought I'd wait till some posters were at primary school.  In no particular order:

CONSPIRACY/FIX?:  It would be nice to hold on to the idea but definitely not.  If this was a fix why send off Abidal (unjustly)?

CHELSEA'S REACTION AT THE END:  I was somewhat embarrassed by this.  It was understandable but not excusable.  Remember too that not all of the players reacted like this (even Cole was gracious) and Hiddink showed a more reasoned reaction at the end.  I would have loved to have seen Ferguson or Wenger had their teams gone out in such dramatic fashion.  On a positive note it's great to see that Ballack actually can run, something that he hides very well during the rest of the season.  

THE PENS?:  f**k where do you start?  Truth be told I thought Chelsea should have had two penalties.  I think everyone agrees that Pique definitely handled the ball.  The other dead cert was Abidal's pull on Drogba in the first half.  It's good to see that some ABCs are of the opinion that to pull an opposing player's shirt is no longer a foul in soccer!  In fact had Rosetti been in charge of this match Abidal would have walked then.  Of the others, perversely the ref got the Malouda decision right.  He gave the free on the edge of the box for the first foul on Malouda (as the law says), problem was he didn't blow his whistle until the second incident.  As for Eto'o at the end?  Yes he did divert the ball with his arm but the ball was going like a bullet and I think it would have been very harsh.

DROGBA AND DIVING?:  I think Didier Drogba is a fantastic player and until Chelsea find someone better he should remain at the club and on ability alone if I were the manager he would be my second pick (after Essien).  But he is not without "flaws".  If Drogba (and a number of other players) concentrated on staying on his feet (and we know he is physically strong) he would score 6 or 7 goals more a season.  The root of the problem is that modern refereeing and the way FIFA is moving toward soccer being a non-contact sport encourages players to go down easliy.  If refs stopped giving fouls for players laddering their tights then they wouldn't spend so much tie on the ground.  Drogba is not the only diver in football, but he is certainly a high profile one.  All clubs have their divers both English and non-English.  Drogba and whoever manges him next year should get out the DVD of his second season at Chelsea, where for the most part he stayed on his feet scored 25 odd goals and Chelsea cantered to the title.

THE REF?:  What can you say, a poor performance, but it's a difficult job and without refs there would be no sport and don't forget there were two linesmen officiating as well.

THE FOOTBALL:  Probably 1-1 over the two legs was a fair result.  What came out of last night's match was that Barca are overrated.  OK they beat Real 6-2 in the Bernabueu...but didn't Liverpool tank Real a few weeks ago??  Real are shit.  Barca were pleasing on the eye in the opponents half but had one shot on goal in 95 mins.  Chelsea, the supposed anti football team, created far more chances and had two clear penalties turned down.  To use a golfing analogy, tee to green Barca were terrific but they can't putt for dough on the hard courses.  Chelsea kept Messi fairly quiet in both games (a very talented player but watching him makes you realise what a genius Maradona was)

Man Utd will beat them easily

Man Utd have a better defence than Chelsea and Barca have a worse defence than Chelsea.  I fancy Utd to score in the first 15 mins and then defend (like at Old Trafford last year)

WHAT CAN CHELSEA LEARN FROM THIS?

If Drogba hadn't have spent so much time on his arse there may not have been four mins added time (where did they come from)
Chelsea had chances to put this tie out of sight in both legs and didn't take them
I'm a big fan of Hiddink, but the decision to bring on Belletti wasn't a great one
Chelsea's biggest flaw was not time wasting or diving but they kept giving the ball away.  Bosingwa and Ballack were particlualrly guilty of this

HARDSTATION:  I used to like you.

Good magnanimous post QM, and hard to disagree with any of it.  Before last night I thought that Chelsea would provide a bigger challenge for Utd., and now I'm more sure of it.  The fact that Chelsea created far more chances than Barca with 35% possession surely confirms that the Catalans are dreadful at the back.  Their only chance in the final will be to deny Utd possession in the middle third - but that's not their game either - and Utd don't seem to need middle third possession to make chances.  It'll be a fascinating encounter, but with only one result (in my mind).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:53:14 AM
Quote from: full back on May 07, 2009, 11:44:53 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:39:29 AM
A ref was pushed to his hole at a EPL match, Cashley Cole turned his back to a ref at an EPL game, Masch got sent off for mouthing to a ref at a EPL game, the whole respect campaign was brought in this season to try and control players from confronting refs on the field. Don't try and cod yourself.

You have mentioned 3 instances in the last 11 or 12 years, not very regular is it?  ;)

The Cole & Masch incidents werent nearly as bad as Ballack

Not as regular as your bowel movements if you've been on the throne already this morning  ;)

They weren't as bad cause the ref stood for them. Cashley showed as much contempt to a ref as you'll ever see, Ballack just wanted an answer to why he turned down an obvious peno.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: full back on May 07, 2009, 11:56:24 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:53:14 AM

Not as regular as your bowel movements if you've been on the throne already this morning  ;)

They weren't as bad cause the ref stood for them. Cashley showed as much contempt to a ref as you'll ever see, Ballack just wanted an answer to why he turned down an obvious peno.

Thanksfully the stuff I put into the throne isnt anything like the stuff you talk ;)

The ref stood for for Ballack acting the pr1ck as well
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: longrunsthefox on May 07, 2009, 12:04:01 PM
No sympathy for Chel$ea and was particularly pleasing that the last 'handball' was from kick by Anelka. Wasn't a handball anyway-crying b*****ds. What Anelka did in diving and then to stand not a bother on him watching man gt sent off was nausiating. Bad enough diving for  a penalty/free but seemed so comfortable to see opponent get lined and now out for final. Is what puts so many off soccer.  Everton will scut them too in Cup final...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 12:04:15 PM
Quote from: full back on May 07, 2009, 11:56:24 AM
Quote from: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 11:53:14 AM

Not as regular as your bowel movements if you've been on the throne already this morning  ;)

They weren't as bad cause the ref stood for them. Cashley showed as much contempt to a ref as you'll ever see, Ballack just wanted an answer to why he turned down an obvious peno.

Thanksfully the stuff I put into the throne isnt anything like the stuff you talk ;)

The ref stood for for Ballack acting the pr1ck as well

And that is the problem, not what shite we talk or produce.

Only the paid Man United ref took the right action against Masch in Old Tarfford  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 12:06:13 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on May 07, 2009, 12:04:01 PM
No sympathy for Chel$ea and was particularly pleasing that the last 'handball' was from kick by Anelka. Wasn't a handball anyway-crying b*****ds. What Anelka did in diving and then to stand not a bother on him watching man gt sent off was nausiating. Bad enough diving for  a penalty/free but seemed so comfortable to see opponent get lined and now out for final. Is what puts so many off soccer.  Everton will scut them too in Cup final...

P4 on early lunch??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: bingobus on May 07, 2009, 12:06:34 PM
Removed at request of Dinny.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: irunthev on May 07, 2009, 12:19:43 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on May 07, 2009, 11:45:03 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 10:47:54 AM
OK, a large cup of strong coffee on the desk and I'm feeling slightly better.  I thought I'd wait till some posters were at primary school.  In no particular order:

CONSPIRACY/FIX?:  It would be nice to hold on to the idea but definitely not.  If this was a fix why send off Abidal (unjustly)?

CHELSEA'S REACTION AT THE END:  I was somewhat embarrassed by this.  It was understandable but not excusable.  Remember too that not all of the players reacted like this (even Cole was gracious) and Hiddink showed a more reasoned reaction at the end.  I would have loved to have seen Ferguson or Wenger had their teams gone out in such dramatic fashion.  On a positive note it's great to see that Ballack actually can run, something that he hides very well during the rest of the season.  

THE PENS?:  f**k where do you start?  Truth be told I thought Chelsea should have had two penalties.  I think everyone agrees that Pique definitely handled the ball.  The other dead cert was Abidal's pull on Drogba in the first half.  It's good to see that some ABCs are of the opinion that to pull an opposing player's shirt is no longer a foul in soccer!  In fact had Rosetti been in charge of this match Abidal would have walked then.  Of the others, perversely the ref got the Malouda decision right.  He gave the free on the edge of the box for the first foul on Malouda (as the law says), problem was he didn't blow his whistle until the second incident.  As for Eto'o at the end?  Yes he did divert the ball with his arm but the ball was going like a bullet and I think it would have been very harsh.

DROGBA AND DIVING?:  I think Didier Drogba is a fantastic player and until Chelsea find someone better he should remain at the club and on ability alone if I were the manager he would be my second pick (after Essien).  But he is not without "flaws".  If Drogba (and a number of other players) concentrated on staying on his feet (and we know he is physically strong) he would score 6 or 7 goals more a season.  The root of the problem is that modern refereeing and the way FIFA is moving toward soccer being a non-contact sport encourages players to go down easliy.  If refs stopped giving fouls for players laddering their tights then they wouldn't spend so much tie on the ground.  Drogba is not the only diver in football, but he is certainly a high profile one.  All clubs have their divers both English and non-English.  Drogba and whoever manges him next year should get out the DVD of his second season at Chelsea, where for the most part he stayed on his feet scored 25 odd goals and Chelsea cantered to the title.

THE REF?:  What can you say, a poor performance, but it's a difficult job and without refs there would be no sport and don't forget there were two linesmen officiating as well.

THE FOOTBALL:  Probably 1-1 over the two legs was a fair result.  What came out of last night's match was that Barca are overrated.  OK they beat Real 6-2 in the Bernabueu...but didn't Liverpool tank Real a few weeks ago??  Real are shit.  Barca were pleasing on the eye in the opponents half but had one shot on goal in 95 mins.  Chelsea, the supposed anti football team, created far more chances and had two clear penalties turned down.  To use a golfing analogy, tee to green Barca were terrific but they can't putt for dough on the hard courses.  Chelsea kept Messi fairly quiet in both games (a very talented player but watching him makes you realise what a genius Maradona was)

Man Utd will beat them easily

Man Utd have a better defence than Chelsea and Barca have a worse defence than Chelsea.  I fancy Utd to score in the first 15 mins and then defend (like at Old Trafford last year)

WHAT CAN CHELSEA LEARN FROM THIS?

If Drogba hadn't have spent so much time on his arse there may not have been four mins added time (where did they come from)
Chelsea had chances to put this tie out of sight in both legs and didn't take them
I'm a big fan of Hiddink, but the decision to bring on Belletti wasn't a great one
Chelsea's biggest flaw was not time wasting or diving but they kept giving the ball away.  Bosingwa and Ballack were particlualrly guilty of this

HARDSTATION:  I used to like you.

Good magnanimous post QM, and hard to disagree with any of it.  Before last night I thought that Chelsea would provide a bigger challenge for Utd., and now I'm more sure of it.  The fact that Chelsea created far more chances than Barca with 35% possession surely confirms that the Catalans are dreadful at the back.  Their only chance in the final will be to deny Utd possession in the middle third - but that's not their game either - and Utd don't seem to need middle third possession to make chances.  It'll be a fascinating encounter, but with only one result (in my mind).

Hitting nail on the head there...... must be damned good coffee
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 12:21:55 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 12:06:13 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on May 07, 2009, 12:04:01 PM
No sympathy for Chel$ea and was particularly pleasing that the last 'handball' was from kick by Anelka. Wasn't a handball anyway-crying b*****ds. What Anelka did in diving and then to stand not a bother on him watching man gt sent off was nausiating. Bad enough diving for  a penalty/free but seemed so comfortable to see opponent get lined and now out for final. Is what puts so many off soccer.  Everton will scut them too in Cup final...

P4 on early lunch??

Original...   ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 07, 2009, 12:42:32 PM
Bingobus can you take down that gif, not particularly funny and will offend many.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 12:44:16 PM
Who is the man anyway? Some sort of peado?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: longrunsthefox on May 07, 2009, 12:45:52 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 12:06:13 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on May 07, 2009, 12:04:01 PM
No sympathy for Chel$ea and was particularly pleasing that the last 'handball' was from kick by Anelka. Wasn't a handball anyway-crying b*****ds. What Anelka did in diving and then to stand not a bother on him watching man gt sent off was nausiating. Bad enough diving for  a penalty/free but seemed so comfortable to see opponent get lined and now out for final. Is what puts so many off soccer.  Everton will scut them too in Cup final...

P4 on early lunch??

P4?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Main Street on May 07, 2009, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 10:47:54 AM

THE FOOTBALL:  Probably 1-1 over the two legs was a fair result
.
It was a fair result

QuoteWhat came out of last night's match was that Barca are overrated.

That depends on high you think they were rated

QuoteOK they beat Real 6-2 in the Bernabueu...but didn't Liverpool tank Real a few weeks ago??  Real are shit
.
This is hysterical.
Barca so far in  La Liga, 100 goals scored, 28 conceded   (so much for the myth of the weak Barca defense)
Most prolific scorers in the CL
Widely acknowledged to have some of the best players in the world, playing scintillating, close control, one touch football with telepathic like distribution.

 
QuoteChelsea kept Messi fairly quiet in both games (a very talented player but watching him makes you realise what a genius Maradona was)

Good God QM, are you serious?
watching Messi makes you realise what a brilliant player he is

[
Quoteb]Man Utd will beat them easily[/b]

They have a chance to beat them, but  easily ???

QuoteMan Utd have a better defence than Chelsea and Barca have a worse defence than Chelsea.

Barca let in a few more goals in the CL than MU, but have scored a bucket full more.
With no Fletcher MU have to win the ball from Barca.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Roger on May 07, 2009, 12:48:34 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 12:44:16 PM
Who is the man anyway? Some sort of peado?
Yes. Gary Glitter.

Here's is another one doing the rounds.....

(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r5/Photos01_bucket/312e1sl.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 07, 2009, 12:55:38 PM
Thanks Bingobus.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: irunthev on May 07, 2009, 01:03:34 PM
If you consider how poor most of us rate Barcelona's chances against Utd, it makes you wonder how weak La Liga is considering that Barcelona are 25 points ahead of the third placed teams. I think the reason they have scored 100 league goals this season is as much to do with the quaity of the defences they are playing against as it has to do with the magic of Henry, Eto'o and Messi.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 01:06:35 PM
@ Main St...can't do this multi quote thing, yours in italics

Barca so far in  La Liga, 100 goals scored, 28 conceded   (so much for the myth of the weak Barca defense)

Not many Chelseas or Man Utds in La Liga.  Their defence was like a Swiss cheese last night and with a bit more composure and I admit, skill, Chelsea would have scored three.

Widely acknowledged to have some of the best players in the world, playing scintillating, close control, one touch football with telepathic like distribution.

One shot in 95mins

watching Messi makes you realise what a brilliant player he is

Never said he wasn't good, just not outstanding over the two games against Chelsea.  I'm sure he's brilliant against Getafe and Recreativo Huelva.  But I'll say without fear of contradiciton he's not fit to walk in Maradona's shadow...yet

Barca let in a few more goals in the CL than MU, but have scored a bucket full more.  With no Fletcher MU have to win the ball from Barca

If Chelsea can create half a dozen good chances against Barca's none, then Utd will score at least a couple

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Main Street on May 07, 2009, 01:39:02 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 01:06:35 PM

Never said he wasn't good, just not outstanding over the two games against Chelsea.  I'm sure he's brilliant against Getafe and Recreativo Huelva.  But I'll say without fear of contradiciton he's not fit to walk in Maradona's shadow...yet
When Chelsea set themselves up like a San Marino then Barca's game is going to have to be patient.
No need for the condescension over La Liga. They use to say that about Larsson and who cares about comparing Messi to another legend from another time.
The similarity with Maradonna is with Messi's passing ability.

You might have noticed that Barca's and Messi's  reputation is supported by their CL record this season, ie if you could have  dragged yourself away from watching the EPL teams.
Messi is the outstanding dribbler (with supreme ball retention ability), on the planet right now. Does he ever lose the ball?  Not only that, he plays for the team, hardly ever hogs the ball and has an uncanny understanding with Iniesta and Xavi. Messi will draw 2 3 and 4 of the defense towards him and pop the ball over to his mates.
Same last night, totally unselfish, brilliantly laid on the the winner.

BTW  I rate Drogba as an outstanding brilliant skillfull player, a  hard working team player who I just love to watch.
i don't care for his histrionics but they don't affect my appreciation of his ability.


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2009, 01:42:43 PM
Agree with most what AQMP states there over the last thread or two.

I haven't really too much more to add on the match, but you get a good perspective on the maturity of posters on occasions like this. Unfortunately my temperment isn't where it should be and I get dragged to idiot level on occasions.

The Drogba thing is frustrating, and my sentiments are similar to that that the Mancs have shown the last 24 months with Ronaldo. When he is on his game, as a fan you tend to put up with the antics. However there is a stage where enough is enough. It's not his outburst last night as such, as I knew exactly how he felt, but it's the improvisation shall we say.
Unfortunatly we don't have enough strength at boardroom level to deal with this. In other words, Kenyon, Buck et all should be intervening whenever the image of the club is at risk.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 01:45:09 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2009, 01:42:43 PM
Agree with most what AQMP states there over the last thread or two.

I haven't really too much more to add on the match, but you get a good perspective on the maturity of posters on occasions like this. Unfortunately my temperment isn't where it should be and I get dragged to idiot level on occasions.

The Drogba thing is frustrating, and my sentiments are similar to that that the Mancs have shown the last 24 months with Ronaldo. When he is on his game, as a fan you tend to put up with the antics. However there is a stage where enough is enough. It's not his outburst last night as such, as I knew exactly how he felt, but it's the improvisation shall we say.
Unfortunatly we don't have enough strength at boardroom level to deal with this. In other words, Kenyon, Buck et all should be intervening whenever the image of the club is at risk.



I know you are, but what am I.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2009, 01:46:13 PM
I think it's the next sentance you should've quoted PPS.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 01:47:58 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2009, 01:46:13 PM
I think it's the next sentance you should've quoted PPS.

So's your face.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Rossie11 on May 07, 2009, 01:50:31 PM
QuoteWhen Chelsea set themselves up like a San Marino
Bit harsh.. Bolton under Big Sam maybe..
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 07, 2009, 01:56:54 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 01:47:58 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2009, 01:46:13 PM
I think it's the next sentance you should've quoted PPS.

So's your face.

That doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 01:58:32 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on May 07, 2009, 01:56:54 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 01:47:58 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2009, 01:46:13 PM
I think it's the next sentance you should've quoted PPS.

So's your face.

That doesn't make sense.

So's your face always makes sense.

So's your face.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2009, 01:59:29 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on May 07, 2009, 01:56:54 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 01:47:58 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2009, 01:46:13 PM
I think it's the next sentance you should've quoted PPS.

So's your face.

That doesn't make sense.

Thank feck you said that, as I was sitting here thinking... what?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: wherefromreferee? on May 07, 2009, 02:06:36 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 01:58:32 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on May 07, 2009, 01:56:54 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 01:47:58 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2009, 01:46:13 PM
I think it's the next sentance you should've quoted PPS.

So's your face.

That doesn't make sense.

So's your face always makes sense.

So's your face.


:D It's from a Scrubs episode.  The Todd understands you Ping Pong.  High Five
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 02:12:37 PM
Board Five!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 07, 2009, 02:48:08 PM
Drogba's rant at the Ref last night was nothing compared to the legend John Aldridge's abuse of the official at the Mexico game in the World Cup '94  :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSJVL74OlQk
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: gallsman on May 07, 2009, 03:46:07 PM
Messi wasn't as brilliant as he can be over the two legs, but is it just me or was he pissing on Evra in the semi-final last year whilst injured? As an 18 year old was he not "taken out" by Chelsea, for which Del Horno got sent off? A few bad games do not make him a bad player or over-hyped. He tore Bayern (a team who know a thing or two about defending) to shreds a few weeks ago. He's the real deal.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: irunthev on May 07, 2009, 04:23:34 PM
I think my Sat Nav is broke last night, I typed in Chelsea and it said I was 1 minute from Rome! ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 04:24:51 PM
Chelsea have no "class"??

From the Guardian

The Barcelona coach, Pep Guardiola, has praised John Terry for his behaviour after last night's semi-final defeat. Despite Terry's disappointment at Andrés Iniesta's late equaliser to put the Spanish side in the final, the Chelsea captain visited the Barcelona dressing room and shook hands with each member of their playing and coaching staff.

It was an act of sportsmanship for which the Barça team and staff applauded him out of the room. "I want to thank John Terry for coming into the dressing room and congratulating us," Guardiola said. "He's a true gentleman."

Nice move by Terry :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: nifan on May 07, 2009, 04:28:31 PM
Saw Frank Lampard congratulate Iniesta on the pitch as well - in contrast to some of the other lads.

For some reason ive had a dislike of Lampard in the past (probably due to a mate having constant arguments with me about him vs Gerrard) but ive warmed to him over the likes of this and the thing with the radio dj.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 07, 2009, 04:34:42 PM
Heard something about that dj story, what was it exactly? And who was the DJ?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: irunthev on May 07, 2009, 04:36:11 PM
Quote from: nifan on May 07, 2009, 04:28:31 PM
Saw Frank Lampard congratulate Iniesta on the pitch as well - in contrast to some of the other lads.

For some reason ive had a dislike of Lampard in the past (probably due to a mate having constant arguments with me about him vs Gerrard) but ive warmed to him over the likes of this and the thing with the radio dj.

Lampard was described by Mourinho as the most complete professional he had ever worked with. He seems like a sound bloke and the consistency of his play would suggest that he takes himself and his football very seriously, unlike that half-wit team mate of his who wears the No11
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 04:40:58 PM
Quote from: irunthev on May 07, 2009, 04:36:11 PM
Quote from: nifan on May 07, 2009, 04:28:31 PM
Saw Frank Lampard congratulate Iniesta on the pitch as well - in contrast to some of the other lads.

For some reason ive had a dislike of Lampard in the past (probably due to a mate having constant arguments with me about him vs Gerrard) but ive warmed to him over the likes of this and the thing with the radio dj.

Lampard was described by Mourinho as the most complete professional he had ever worked with. He seems like a sound bloke and the consistency of his play would suggest that he takes himself and his football very seriously, unlike that half-wit team mate of his who wears the No11

Sadly for a Chelsea fan I have to concur with this.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 04:47:57 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on May 07, 2009, 04:34:42 PM
Heard something about that dj story, what was it exactly? And who was the DJ?

I'll be as succinct as I can ONL.  Lampard breaks up with girlfriend.  Girlfriend out on the blatter makes comment about Lampard living in their old house while she and their two kids are in a small flat.  This is picked up by some of the tabloids.  Turns out girlfriend was mouthing a bit as this is a temporary arrangement she agreed to since the £3mill apartment Lampard bought for her and the kids is not quite ready yet.  A DJ on some London station picks up the paper and reports that people who do that sort of thing are scum and beneath contempt etc, etc.  Unbeknownst to him Lampards sister is listening to the show and before you can say "last minute goal" Lampard rings in to the show and goes through the DJ for a short cut.  You'll find it on YouTube.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: orangeman on May 07, 2009, 05:00:53 PM
Blues captain John Terry, who also strongly remonstrated with Ovrebo, defended the reactions of the Chelsea players and Drogba in particular.

"I am fully behind Didier for the way he reacted," declared Terry. "The man wants to win. You can see the passion that he played with during the game and the passion afterwards.

"People are saying we shouldn't have reacted the way we did but the fact is, six decisions went against us in front of 40,000 people. And for the ref to not give one of them is unusual."

The central defender also condemned the decision to select Ovrebo for such a high-profile tie.

Meanwhile, defender Jose Bosingwa issued a statement on Thursday to retract comments made in a Portuguese TV interview in which he described Orvebo as a "thief".

Bosingwa said: "We were all very disappointed and frustrated after the game, but I regret describing the referee as a thief.

"Having had some time to reflect, I would like to withdraw those comments."


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: orangeman on May 07, 2009, 05:02:07 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 04:24:51 PM
Chelsea have no "class"??

From the Guardian

The Barcelona coach, Pep Guardiola, has praised John Terry for his behaviour after last night's semi-final defeat. Despite Terry's disappointment at Andrés Iniesta's late equaliser to put the Spanish side in the final, the Chelsea captain visited the Barcelona dressing room and shook hands with each member of their playing and coaching staff.

It was an act of sportsmanship for which the Barça team and staff applauded him out of the room. "I want to thank John Terry for coming into the dressing room and congratulating us," Guardiola said. "He's a true gentleman."

Nice move by Terry :)


Did he say that he hoped they went on and beat those United c---ts  ?  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 07, 2009, 05:02:07 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 04:24:51 PM
Chelsea have no "class"??

From the Guardian

The Barcelona coach, Pep Guardiola, has praised John Terry for his behaviour after last night's semi-final defeat. Despite Terry's disappointment at Andrés Iniesta's late equaliser to put the Spanish side in the final, the Chelsea captain visited the Barcelona dressing room and shook hands with each member of their playing and coaching staff.

It was an act of sportsmanship for which the Barça team and staff applauded him out of the room. "I want to thank John Terry for coming into the dressing room and congratulating us," Guardiola said. "He's a true gentleman."

Nice move by Terry :)


Did he say that he hoped they went on and beat those United c---ts  ?  ;)

Possibly though it might have lost a bit in translation into Catalan
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 05:06:14 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 07, 2009, 05:00:53 PM
Blues captain John Terry, who also strongly remonstrated with Ovrebo, defended the reactions of the Chelsea players and Drogba in particular.

"I am fully behind Didier for the way he reacted," declared Terry. "The man wants to win. You can see the passion that he played with during the game and the passion afterwards.

"People are saying we shouldn't have reacted the way we did but the fact is, six decisions went against us in front of 40,000 people. And for the ref to not give one of them is unusual."

The central defender also condemned the decision to select Ovrebo for such a high-profile tie.

Meanwhile, defender Jose Bosingwa issued a statement on Thursday to retract comments made in a Portuguese TV interview in which he described Orvebo as a "thief".

Bosingwa said: "We were all very disappointed and frustrated after the game, but I regret describing the referee as a thief.

"Having had some time to reflect, I would like to withdraw those comments."


Again good move by Bosingwa...no way was the ref a thief...a total incompetent, yes, a thief, no ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 05:22:05 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 07, 2009, 05:00:53 PM
Blues captain John Terry, who also strongly remonstrated with Ovrebo, defended the reactions of the Chelsea players and Drogba in particular.

"I am fully behind Didier for the way he reacted," declared Terry. "The man wants to win. You can see the passion that he played with during the game and the passion afterwards.

"People are saying we shouldn't have reacted the way we did but the fact is, six decisions went against us in front of 40,000 people. And for the ref to not give one of them is unusual."

The central defender also condemned the decision to select Ovrebo for such a high-profile tie.

Meanwhile, defender Jose Bosingwa issued a statement on Thursday to retract comments made in a Portuguese TV interview in which he described Orvebo as a "thief".

Bosingwa said: "We were all very disappointed and frustrated after the game, but I regret describing the referee as a thief.

"Having had some time to reflect, I would like to withdraw those comments."




Should the amount of people watching have an impact on what way a decision goes?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 05:31:14 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 05:22:05 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 07, 2009, 05:00:53 PM
Blues captain John Terry, who also strongly remonstrated with Ovrebo, defended the reactions of the Chelsea players and Drogba in particular.

"I am fully behind Didier for the way he reacted," declared Terry. "The man wants to win. You can see the passion that he played with during the game and the passion afterwards.

"People are saying we shouldn't have reacted the way we did but the fact is, six decisions went against us in front of 40,000 people. And for the ref to not give one of them is unusual."

The central defender also condemned the decision to select Ovrebo for such a high-profile tie.

Meanwhile, defender Jose Bosingwa issued a statement on Thursday to retract comments made in a Portuguese TV interview in which he described Orvebo as a "thief".

Bosingwa said: "We were all very disappointed and frustrated after the game, but I regret describing the referee as a thief.

"Having had some time to reflect, I would like to withdraw those comments."


Should the amount of people watching have an impact on what way a decision goes?

Not necessarily but if you think the ref was a muppet then the number of corroborative witnesses who support your view might add some weight to your argument ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 05:35:10 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 05:31:14 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 05:22:05 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 07, 2009, 05:00:53 PM
Blues captain John Terry, who also strongly remonstrated with Ovrebo, defended the reactions of the Chelsea players and Drogba in particular.

"I am fully behind Didier for the way he reacted," declared Terry. "The man wants to win. You can see the passion that he played with during the game and the passion afterwards.

"People are saying we shouldn't have reacted the way we did but the fact is, six decisions went against us in front of 40,000 people. And for the ref to not give one of them is unusual."

The central defender also condemned the decision to select Ovrebo for such a high-profile tie.

Meanwhile, defender Jose Bosingwa issued a statement on Thursday to retract comments made in a Portuguese TV interview in which he described Orvebo as a "thief".

Bosingwa said: "We were all very disappointed and frustrated after the game, but I regret describing the referee as a thief.

"Having had some time to reflect, I would like to withdraw those comments."


Should the amount of people watching have an impact on what way a decision goes?

Not necessarily but if you think the ref was a muppet then the number of corroborative witnesses who support your view might add some weight to your argument ;)

There is nothing there to suggest that is what he is implying. Sure there were millions witnessing it on their TV's.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Capt Pat on May 07, 2009, 05:44:27 PM
It is the same every time an English team is knocked out of a big tournament it has to be the refs fault. I heard that the ref had to be smuggled out of the country today by police after receivng death threats. That is just plain ridiculous. I was listening to BBC radio 5 today and they had some posh football pundit on saying that Chelsea should have had at least 2 penalties and quite possibly 3 or 4 penalties. I mean come down to earth a bit ffs.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 05:46:14 PM
Time to go as Capt Pat and Ping Pong Santa are home from school ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 06:15:40 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 05:46:14 PM
Time to go as Capt Pat and Ping Pong Santa are home from school ;)

Ah the 'some posters are still at school' slag.

Yet again, fantastically original....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2009, 07:07:16 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 07, 2009, 05:44:27 PM
It is the same every time an English team is knocked out of a big tournament it has to be the refs fault. I heard that the ref had to be smuggled out of the country today by police after receivng death threats. That is just plain ridiculous. I was listening to BBC radio 5 today and they had some posh football pundit on saying that Chelsea should have had at least 2 penalties and quite possibly 3 or 4 penalties. I mean come down to earth a bit ffs.

They/ We quite possibly could've had 4 penalties. So nothing wrong with that comment.

Does being posh matter?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: cavan4ever on May 07, 2009, 07:39:38 PM
(http://i44.tinypic.com/18gal3.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: longrunsthefox on May 07, 2009, 07:57:07 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 06:15:40 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 07, 2009, 05:46:14 PM
Time to go as Capt Pat and Ping Pong Santa are home from school ;)

Ah the 'some posters are still at school' slag.

Yet again, fantastically original....

I got that one earlier too about being in P4... speaking of which secret tape of Drogba in Chelsea dressing room after game has been given to press

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNZdaP1FPwo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNZdaP1FPwo)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: cavan4ever on May 07, 2009, 08:00:07 PM
(http://www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/data/gif/pepsmiley3.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: gawa316 on May 08, 2009, 12:20:35 AM
(http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=198423.0;attach=170727;image)

What a waste ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 08, 2009, 06:11:59 PM
thought ballack and imparticular drogba's behaviour was a disgrace. thats something you would expect at an u-12 game not from people who are meant to be role models.  drogba went off injured yet is quick enough to come back onto the pitch and act a complete ballbag.  he actually moves towards the camera to say "this is a f**king disgrace" what are the younger generation going to think of that.  though i dont like lampard and terry i must appreciate what they did after the game.very sportsman like.  think of all the fuss made by people and the media a few years back when keane etc surrounded the ref..  the english media would like to brush this under the carpet though as chelsea where "robbed"
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2009, 07:42:49 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 08, 2009, 06:11:59 PM
thought ballack and imparticular drogba's behaviour was a disgrace. thats something you would expect at an u-12 game not from people who are meant to be role models.  drogba went off injured yet is quick enough to come back onto the pitch and act a complete ballbag.  he actually moves towards the camera to say "this is a f**king disgrace" what are the younger generation going to think of that.  though i dont like lampard and terry i must appreciate what they did after the game.very sportsman like.  think of all the fuss made by people and the media a few years back when keane etc surrounded the ref..  the english media would like to brush this under the carpet though as chelsea where "robbed"

The English would like to brush what under the carpet? Considering this was front page on most tabloids, they need a new brush.

The younger generation? You're right that this is something that they shouldn't see/ hear. The same way that when Rooney, Ferguson, et all curse in camera the same rules apply.

I think people like Lampard, and Drogba etc should be coming out and being role models for all young people. Teaching them things like starting a sentance with a capital letter etc.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: ONeill on May 08, 2009, 08:02:28 PM
I was listening to TalkSport today and the xenophobia was dripping from the presenters. Rooney and Ferdinand are serial referee abusers throughout games, probably every game. Lipreading skills are not needed. Ferguson is no angel in this regard either.  I actually don't think I can recall Drogba harassing a referee with verbal abuse before.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: slow corner back on May 08, 2009, 08:27:24 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 08, 2009, 08:02:28 PM
I was listening to TalkSport today and the xenophobia was dripping from the presenters. Rooney and Ferdinand are serial referee abusers throughout games, probably every game. Lipreading skills are not needed. Ferguson is no angel in this regard either.  I actually don't think I can recall Drogba harassing a referee with verbal abuse before.

Are you for real O Neil, he is constantly moaning to refs, as are Terry Gerrard and all other high profile players.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Minder on May 08, 2009, 08:53:52 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on May 08, 2009, 08:27:24 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 08, 2009, 08:02:28 PM
I was listening to TalkSport today and the xenophobia was dripping from the presenters. Rooney and Ferdinand are serial referee abusers throughout games, probably every game. Lipreading skills are not needed. Ferguson is no angel in this regard either.  I actually don't think I can recall Drogba harassing a referee with verbal abuse before.

Are you for real O Neil, he is constantly moaning to refs, as are Terry Gerrard and all other high profile players.

Rooney is the worst in this regard, there seems to be some unwritten code with refs that he can call them all the f**kers of the day without sanction. The other night was the perfect oppurtunity for the many queuing up to put the boot into nouveau riche Chelsea. There is a difference in "moaning" to a ref and calling him a "f**king t**t" to his face. I keep forgetting though if you take that "aggression" out of his game he is only half the player...... :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: ONeill on May 08, 2009, 09:04:18 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 08, 2009, 08:53:52 PM

Rooney is the worst in this regard, there seems to be some unwritten code with refs that he can call them all the f**kers of the day without sanction. The other night was the perfect oppurtunity for the many queuing up to put the boot into nouveau riche Chelsea. There is a difference in "moaning" to a ref and calling him a "f**king t**t" to his face. I keep forgetting though if you take that "aggression" out of his game he is only half the player...... :-\

Well said you tart.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Minder on May 08, 2009, 09:11:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 08, 2009, 09:04:18 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 08, 2009, 08:53:52 PM

Rooney is the worst in this regard, there seems to be some unwritten code with refs that he can call them all the f**kers of the day without sanction. The other night was the perfect oppurtunity for the many queuing up to put the boot into nouveau riche Chelsea. There is a difference in "moaning" to a ref and calling him a "f**king t**t" to his face. I keep forgetting though if you take that "aggression" out of his game he is only half the player...... :-\

Well said you tart.
Thanks slag.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 09:36:42 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2009, 07:42:49 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 08, 2009, 06:11:59 PM
thought ballack and imparticular drogba's behaviour was a disgrace. thats something you would expect at an u-12 game not from people who are meant to be role models.  drogba went off injured yet is quick enough to come back onto the pitch and act a complete ballbag.  he actually moves towards the camera to say "this is a f**king disgrace" what are the younger generation going to think of that.  though i dont like lampard and terry i must appreciate what they did after the game.very sportsman like.  think of all the fuss made by people and the media a few years back when keane etc surrounded the ref..  the english media would like to brush this under the carpet though as chelsea where "robbed"

The English would like to brush what under the carpet? Considering this was front page on most tabloids, they need a new brush.

The younger generation? You're right that this is something that they shouldn't see/ hear. The same way that when Rooney, Ferguson, et all curse in camera the same rules apply.

I think people like Lampard, and Drogba etc should be coming out and being role models for all young people. Teaching them things like starting a sentance with a capital letter etc.  ;)

The last I looked this was the Chelsea thread? We are talking about Chelsea players disgraceful behaviour after a recent game. There is plenty of people who put the boot in to Rooney and Ferguson on the Utd thread when they abuse referees so keep your equivocating for the politics threads.

Good one by the way. Slagging Charlie on his lack of grammar, the poor man is dyslexic for fucksake.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: ONeill on May 08, 2009, 09:43:24 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 09:36:42 PM


The last I looked this was the Chelsea thread? We are talking about Chelsea players disgraceful behaviour after a recent game. There is plenty of people who put the boot in to Rooney and Ferguson on the Utd thread when they abuse referees so keep your equivocating for the politics threads.

Good one by the way. Slagging Charlie on his lack of grammar, the poor man is dyslexic for fucksake.


Fcuk sake.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Minder on May 08, 2009, 09:51:02 PM
In light of my previous post on this thread i feel the need to post this. Apologies for wasting everyones precious time if it has already been posted.

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00673/john-terry-tiny-tea_673552c.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2009, 10:10:52 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 09:36:42 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2009, 07:42:49 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 08, 2009, 06:11:59 PM
thought ballack and imparticular drogba's behaviour was a disgrace. thats something you would expect at an u-12 game not from people who are meant to be role models.  drogba went off injured yet is quick enough to come back onto the pitch and act a complete ballbag.  he actually moves towards the camera to say "this is a f**king disgrace" what are the younger generation going to think of that.  though i dont like lampard and terry i must appreciate what they did after the game.very sportsman like.  think of all the fuss made by people and the media a few years back when keane etc surrounded the ref..  the english media would like to brush this under the carpet though as chelsea where "robbed"

The English would like to brush what under the carpet? Considering this was front page on most tabloids, they need a new brush.

The younger generation? You're right that this is something that they shouldn't see/ hear. The same way that when Rooney, Ferguson, et all curse in camera the same rules apply.

I think people like Lampard, and Drogba etc should be coming out and being role models for all young people. Teaching them things like starting a sentance with a capital letter etc.  ;)

The last I looked this was the Chelsea thread? We are talking about Chelsea players disgraceful behaviour after a recent game. There is plenty of people who put the boot in to Rooney and Ferguson on the Utd thread when they abuse referees so keep your equivocating for the politics threads.

Good one by the way. Slagging Charlie on his lack of grammar, the poor man is dyslexic for fucksake.

If he is, I'll apologise, but I am sure he doesn't need you calling him a 'poor man' on the net for being dyslexic. I am sure he doesn't want our sympathy.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2009, 10:14:09 PM
On another note... I just watched the four penalty decisions again to see if with the temper aff, I'd change my mind.... and I don't.

Malouda's- Watch the ref again, and he doesn't blow for a foul or signal an advantage until one yard inside the box when the push occurs.

Drogba's- Clear as day, a pull on the jersey and a trip.

Pique's- Clearer as day. Even Pique stops.

Eto's- Hands raised charging out. Strikes the arm. Penalty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SASM_NzheK0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SASM_NzheK0)

Even two days later I find it incredible that a ref can turn down four penalties in one game that were all strong shouts.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2009, 10:17:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 08, 2009, 10:15:42 PM
You'll get over it some day, NT.

No I won't. Never. Ever.

Tomorrow night, me and the mates are heading to the pub.

Big Screen.

We are cheering on every country in the Eurovision. Bar Norway.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Minder on May 08, 2009, 10:17:37 PM
I think three were pens, Etoo's would have been harsh, hit him on the armpit.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2009, 10:18:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 08, 2009, 10:17:37 PM
I think three were pens, Etoo's would have been harsh, hit him on the armpit.

That's a penalty.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Minder on May 08, 2009, 10:21:30 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2009, 10:18:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 08, 2009, 10:17:37 PM
I think three were pens, Etoo's would have been harsh, hit him on the armpit.

That's a penalty.

Havent seen many given for hitting someone on the oxter and dont think it was intentional.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: stiffler on May 08, 2009, 10:23:26 PM
My opinion:

Malouda's- never a freekick, never mind a penalty

Drogba's- 8/10 times would have been given a penalty, however Drog's reputation preceeds him. possibly went down to easily.

Pique's- Should have been a penalty, not much doubt about this one.

Eto's- .ball to arm, never a pen.



Thats one sure penalty turned down, when you consider Barca getting a man sent off for nothing,  I think Chelsea fans are going a little OTT here.


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 08, 2009, 10:24:10 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 09:36:42 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2009, 07:42:49 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 08, 2009, 06:11:59 PM
thought ballack and imparticular drogba's behaviour was a disgrace. thats something you would expect at an u-12 game not from people who are meant to be role models.  drogba went off injured yet is quick enough to come back onto the pitch and act a complete ballbag.  he actually moves towards the camera to say "this is a f**king disgrace" what are the younger generation going to think of that.  though i dont like lampard and terry i must appreciate what they did after the game.very sportsman like.  think of all the fuss made by people and the media a few years back when keane etc surrounded the ref..  the english media would like to brush this under the carpet though as chelsea where "robbed"

The English would like to brush what under the carpet? Considering this was front page on most tabloids, they need a new brush.

The younger generation? You're right that this is something that they shouldn't see/ hear. The same way that when Rooney, Ferguson, et all curse in camera the same rules apply.

I think people like Lampard, and Drogba etc should be coming out and being role models for all young people. Teaching them things like starting a sentance with a capital letter etc.  ;)

The last I looked this was the Chelsea thread? We are talking about Chelsea players disgraceful behaviour after a recent game. There is plenty of people who put the boot in to Rooney and Ferguson on the Utd thread when they abuse referees so keep your equivocating for the politics threads.

Good one by the way. Slagging Charlie on his lack of grammar, the poor man is dyslexic for fucksake.


You shouldnt slag siomeones disability
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 08, 2009, 10:31:58 PM
Quote from: stiffler on May 08, 2009, 10:23:26 PM
My opinion:

Malouda's- never a freekick, never mind a penalty

Drogba's- 8/10 times would have been given a penalty, however Drog's reputation preceeds him. possibly went down to easily.

Pique's- Should have been a penalty, not much doubt about this one.

Eto's- .ball to arm, never a pen.



Thats one sure penalty turned down, when you consider Barca getting a man sent off for nothing,  I think Chelsea fans are going a little OTT here.




Maloudas i think was a foul initially outside the box definate free kick referee plays on runs into alves, a free kick yes penalty no

drogbas yes def pen for me- but you know about the story of the boy who called wolf

piques clearest of them all

ballack some refs may have given it though eto'o jumps with his back to the ball.  if nothing else had happened previously,dont think much would have been said about it not being awarded
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 10:33:07 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2009, 10:17:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 08, 2009, 10:15:42 PM
You'll get over it some day, NT.

No I won't. Never. Ever.

Tomorrow night, me and the mates are heading to the pub.

Big Screen.

We are cheering on every country in the Eurovision. Bar Norway.

Are you bringing your knives so you can give some poor f**ker the Chelsea smile afterwards?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2009, 10:36:16 PM
Tell us this Ping Pong... who do you support?

Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 06, 2009, 09:26:14 PM
Must say, some excellent football played last night. Looks like you have fully found your form again and at just the right time.

I really don't know how I can stomach another United Chelsea final though!


Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on February 22, 2009, 06:09:38 PM
I'm an avid Manchester United fan but it is becoming quite impossible to keep defending Chirstiano Ronaldo. The only thing I can compare him to at the moment is that drunk friend that every group has. He's constantly a liability and you'll be apologising on his behalf throughout the night. He will likely cost you a few pound. The next morning when you assess the nights events he'll preoccupy every photo album with pictures of his obnoxious grin. But, he's the life and soul of the party and when required is a great craic syringe from time to time...how could you disassociate yourself with that sort of guy!?


I am confused.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 10:39:09 PM
Wow there Norf Tyrone thats quite an obsession you've got looking up my past posts?

Is someone getting under NT's skin?  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: EC Unique on May 08, 2009, 10:49:14 PM
Busted :D :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: ONeill on May 08, 2009, 10:50:42 PM
PPS = owned.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: ONeill on May 08, 2009, 10:52:14 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2009, 10:17:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 08, 2009, 10:15:42 PM
You'll get over it some day, NT.

No I won't. Never. Ever.

Tomorrow night, me and the mates are heading to the pub.

Big Screen.

We are cheering on every country in the Eurovision. Bar Norway.

It's next week.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 11:39:48 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 08, 2009, 10:50:42 PM
PPS = owned.

What does that mean?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2009, 11:45:36 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 10:39:09 PM
Wow there Norf Tyrone thats quite an obsession you've got looking up my past posts?

Is someone getting under NT's skin?  ;D

Nope. Just wondering when you manifested yourself on the board, and noticed your first post.

So.... are you a Manc or a Scouse?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2009, 11:46:55 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 08, 2009, 10:52:14 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2009, 10:17:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 08, 2009, 10:15:42 PM
You'll get over it some day, NT.

No I won't. Never. Ever.

Tomorrow night, me and the mates are heading to the pub.

Big Screen.

We are cheering on every country in the Eurovision. Bar Norway.

It's next week.

Tsk I know that. I mean we are going out tomorrow night... drinking all week... and watching the Eurovision next Saturday night.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 11:48:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 08, 2009, 11:42:15 PM
He means pwned.

And what does that mean?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 11:49:01 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2009, 11:45:36 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 10:39:09 PM
Wow there Norf Tyrone thats quite an obsession you've got looking up my past posts?

Is someone getting under NT's skin?  ;D

Nope. Just wondering when you manifested yourself on the board, and noticed your first post.

So.... are you a Manc or a Scouse?


I live in neither Manchester nor Liverpool.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 11:51:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 08, 2009, 11:50:20 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 11:48:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 08, 2009, 11:42:15 PM
He means pwned.

And what does that mean?
It means owned.

Over my head.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 11:59:48 PM
God this is sad, I think you actually went to the bother of editing something on Wikipedia for me to look it up!

Bed awaits.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 08:28:30 AM
Chelsea release Cup Final song....

http://www.rathergood.com/drogba (http://www.rathergood.com/drogba)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 11:15:13 AM
To be fair. The ref did have a bad view of it.

(http://chelsea2.chelseafc.com/chat/uploads/124072760.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 11:30:13 AM
Build a wall....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 11:58:08 AM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 11:30:13 AM
Build a wall....

No idea what that means.

Are you still shying the who do you support question?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 12:10:43 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 11:58:08 AM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 11:30:13 AM
Build a wall....

No idea what that means.

Are you still shying the who do you support question?

....and get over it!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 12:16:00 PM
Build a wall and get over it (said wall being a metaphor for the issue).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 12:22:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2009, 12:18:09 PM
That's not the meaning of it at all. The thing he has to get over is Chelsea getting beat. Building a bridge helps you get over things. Building a wall doesn't.

Google it.
I do need to get over it. My doctor told me to see a shrink.

He reccomends this one here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Henning_%C3%98vreb%C3%B8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Henning_%C3%98vreb%C3%B8)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 12:23:16 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 12:10:43 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 11:58:08 AM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 11:30:13 AM
Build a wall....

No idea what that means.

Are you still shying the who do you support question?

....and get over it!

So for the 3rd time, what soccer team do you support? Machester United or Liverpool
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 12:44:49 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 12:23:16 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 12:10:43 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 11:58:08 AM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 11:30:13 AM
Build a wall....

No idea what that means.

Are you still shying the who do you support question?

....and get over it!

So for the 3rd time, what soccer team do you support? Machester United or Liverpool

Leicester City
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 12:46:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2009, 12:18:09 PM
That's not the meaning of it at all. The thing he has to get over is Chelsea getting beat. Building a bridge helps you get over things. Building a wall doesn't.

Google it.

Ok I was wrong, oh no.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 12:51:52 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 12:44:49 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 12:23:16 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 12:10:43 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 11:58:08 AM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 11:30:13 AM
Build a wall....

No idea what that means.

Are you still shying the who do you support question?

....and get over it!

So for the 3rd time, what soccer team do you support? Machester United or Liverpool

Leicester City

Ha. As someone PM'ed me, 'I think his refusal to answer means he's busted  ;D'

Their words, not mine. Good luck.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 01:07:18 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 12:51:52 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 12:44:49 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 12:23:16 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 12:10:43 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 11:58:08 AM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 11:30:13 AM
Build a wall....

No idea what that means.

Are you still shying the who do you support question?

....and get over it!

So for the 3rd time, what soccer team do you support? Machester United or Liverpool

Leicester City

Ha. As someone PM'ed me, 'I think his refusal to answer means he's busted  ;D'

Their words, not mine. Good luck.

Busted for what?

I didn't realise you had to nail your support to any team as a condition of posting on the board?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 01:19:57 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 01:07:18 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 12:51:52 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 12:44:49 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 12:23:16 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 12:10:43 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 11:58:08 AM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 11:30:13 AM
Build a wall....

No idea what that means.

Are you still shying the who do you support question?

....and get over it!

So for the 3rd time, what soccer team do you support? Machester United or Liverpool

Leicester City

Ha. As someone PM'ed me, 'I think his refusal to answer means he's busted  ;D'

Their words, not mine. Good luck.

Busted for what?

I didn't realise you had to nail your support to any team as a condition of posting on the board?

You don't. You did though. You claimed to be an 'avid Manchester United fan', and then stated that you couldn't stomach seeing United in the final as well as complain about 'home decisions' at Old Trafford, as well as numerous other shall we say anti-United comments.

I am afraid your integrity as a football fan, and a poster has evaporated.

Good luck PPS.... and hopefully your latest reincarnation will not be as soon.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 01:23:45 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 01:19:57 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 01:07:18 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 12:51:52 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 12:44:49 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 12:23:16 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 12:10:43 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 11:58:08 AM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 11:30:13 AM
Build a wall....

No idea what that means.

Are you still shying the who do you support question?

....and get over it!

So for the 3rd time, what soccer team do you support? Machester United or Liverpool

Leicester City

Ha. As someone PM'ed me, 'I think his refusal to answer means he's busted  ;D'

Their words, not mine. Good luck.

Busted for what?

I didn't realise you had to nail your support to any team as a condition of posting on the board?

You don't. You did though. You claimed to be an 'avid Manchester United fan', and then stated that you couldn't stomach seeing United in the final as well as complain about 'home decisions' at Old Trafford, as well as numerous other shall we say anti-United comments.

I am afraid your integrity as a football fan, and a poster has evaporated.

Good luck PPS.... and hopefully your latest reincarnation will not be as soon.

So because I lied in my first post about being a Utd fan that means I have to go?

What is your obsession with me and your obsession with calling me a reincarnation? Is this the way you go on with every poster that disagrees with you on something?

Catch a grip.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: ludermor on May 09, 2009, 02:20:54 PM
i dont think anyone has made such a **** of themselves since the bard
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 02:21:50 PM
Quote from: ludermor on May 09, 2009, 02:20:54 PM
i dont think anyone has made such a **** of themselves since the bard

Are you talking about me?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: fred the red on May 09, 2009, 02:52:16 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 02:21:50 PM
Quote from: ludermor on May 09, 2009, 02:20:54 PM
i dont think anyone has made such a **** of themselves since the bard

Are you talking about me?



(http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/page/pwned-56304.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: fred the red on May 09, 2009, 03:03:44 PM
Chelsea's big game atmosphere:


(http://www.irishkop.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=630&d=1241867074)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 10, 2009, 09:29:55 AM
Only pride at stake today in London's big derby. The winners essentially will be the team that get over midweek the quickest, unless these is a Norwegian ref that is.

Chelsea's players will have one eye on Wembley, and the shadow of injury or suspension. It's also important to try and rest one or two somewhere along the way. Nonetheless it's important to keep winning games, and maintain the momentum.

If I was selecting I'd go for.

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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 10, 2009, 10:06:09 AM
UEFA prepare to shaft Chelsea, by making sure the ref rewrites his report. He has obviously not included something that Platini and his cronies spent all week cackling and ringing their hands in anticapation of...........If the fecker cannot submit a report properly, why the feck is on the UEFA list?



THE referee at the heart of Chelsea's Champions League KO has been ordered to refile his match report by UEFA.
Tom Henning Ovrebo has been given an extra 72 hours to expand on his official report before UEFA bring any charges against Chelsea.

The Norwegian referee faxed his original report from his London hotel on Thursday morning before flying back home to Oslo.

But UEFA officials immediately told the psychologist, 42, that his summary was not detailed enough. Ovrebo is expected to name and shame Chelsea stars Didier Drogba and Michael Ballack for their threatening behaviour during and after the Blues' exit against Barcelona.

Drogba, who has apologised for his f-word tirade, is expected to be charged this week and could be banned for the entire group stage of next season's Champions League.

Ovrebo went into hiding with his family after returning home and neighbours say they have not seen him since before Wednesday's game.

Depth
He has contacted local media expressing a wish to talk about the incidents but he has been gagged from speaking publicly by UEFA.

Ovrebo is due to return to domestic action on Saturday when he takes charge of a game at local club Brann Bergen.

The fact UEFA have given him more time to compile his report and asked for greater depth and detail suggests they are preparing to throw the book at Drogba and Chelsea.

A UEFA spokesman said: "Regarding the report from UEFA's referee observer - this will never be made public. But that report will of course play a major part in deciding Tom Henning Ovrebo's future.


"When it comes to the reports that detail what happened after the match we need the coming week to analyse those.


"At the same time we will continue to collect information about what really happened - that's information from witnesses and from video cameras."
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 10, 2009, 11:32:30 AM
Sex up the dossier, Tom? ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: EC Unique on May 10, 2009, 02:14:47 PM
Ping pong has made some c**k of himself.. Hilarious :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: cavan4ever on May 10, 2009, 02:24:24 PM
(http://www.forumspile.com/Owned/Owned-BadHair.jpg)
Quote from: EC Unique on May 10, 2009, 02:14:47 PM
Ping pong has made some c**k of himself.. Hilarious :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 11, 2009, 09:15:56 AM
Good result yesterday, although I only seen bits and pieces of it with the 125 year celebrations etc. However that's us back into that cup for 09/10 again. It'll do the old confidence, moral, and team spirit no harm as Chelsea prepare to compete in the 'world's greatest cup competition' in 2 weeks time.

Anyhow... Barcelona.

Almighty Barcelona more than a club? Not when they claim moral authority
Apparently, Barcelona will be wearing a new shirt for this season's Champions League final. Across the chest will be emblazoned one word: 'puppies'. They tried to get 'cute ickle babies' or 'fuzzywuzzy snuggly bears' but it wouldn't fit.

What a pity for the world's most perfect football club. And it is not just Thierry Henry who faces a race to be ready for the match with Manchester United, either. It seems that so many Barcelona players, officials, former managers and journalists have ascended to the high moral ground since Wednesday's win at Stamford Bridge that they might not all be able to get down and board the charabanc to Rome in time.

So now we know. A single shot at goal in 94 minutes is total football, according to Daniel Alves, who did not speak so boastfully of his own record, that of the dirtiest player in the Champions League with 30 fouls (10 more than the nearest player in Chelsea's starting line-up on Wednesday, Michael Ballack). Playing on the counter-attack, meanwhile, is, in the words of one particularly overwrought Spanish commentator, evil.
Not so divine: Barca berate referee Ovrebo
Whatever happens in Rome, such adjectives will be reserved only for Barcelona's opposition and their style of play, for the divine Catalans can do no wrong. They have a saying at the Nou Camp, mes que un club (more than a club), and it would seem some observers have taken this clever piece of marketing rather literally.

Barcelona play fantastic football, but in the rancid fall-out from the match at Stamford Bridge, it has become rather too easy to review a simplistic confrontation between Josep Guardiola's saints and Guus Hiddink's sinners. Old ground has been revisited, such as the clashes between former managers Jose Mourinho and Frank Rijkaard that predated the resignation of referee Anders Frisk.

Even this is only half the story, because the common perception is that Mourinho slandered an innocent man, Frisk, by falsely stating that Rijkaard got to him at half-time. Mourinho's deception was to say he saw an incident. From his vantage point he could not; but that does not mean nothing happened because the UEFA report has evidence from the stadium supervisor that Frisk was forced to tell Rijkaard to go away three times.
Barcelona, for all their pious rhetoric, do not have the copyright on principle in football. Indeed, for a club so dedicated to fairness, the geography of the Nou Camp stadium has always intrigued visitors, as one of the two entrances to the home changing room leads to the secure area where the referee resides.
    More from Martin Samuel...  MARTIN SAMUEL on the Manchester derby: Carlos too good for sorry City 10/05/09   MARTIN SAMUEL: We are really going down the pan, gents! 07/05/09   MARTIN SAMUEL: Handballs, fouls and a late swing of the boot do the job for Barca 06/05/09   MARTIN SAMUEL: Messi will be hard pressed to top this Ronaldo supershow 05/05/09   MARTIN SAMUEL: What Hiddink can learn from the principles of Pokemon 05/05/09   MARTIN SAMUEL: Our league is healthy when youlook below Platini and his 'big four' 03/05/09   MARTIN SAMUEL: Pig flu? Send for that lucky swine Sven 30/04/09   Martin Samuel: Just come in No 32... the price is too high for United's Tevez 29/04/09   VIEW FULL ARCHIVE   This means that in the tunnel, one team turn left, the other right, and the home route can, if a manager is particularly absent-minded, end up with him on the wrong side of a glass partition rubbing shoulders with the man in charge. Not that any Barcelona coach would ever seek to turn such a design fault to his advantage. Rijkaard simply got lost in his own stadium that night.

There was the game between Chelsea and Barcelona in which claims were made about doctoring the Stamford Bridge pitch; the defeat that ended with Rijkaard publicly haranguing referee Stefano Farina in the centre circle. And while this year we are to be given the dream final, last season when Manchester United and Barcelona met, and Barcelona failed to score over two legs, Rijkaard whined that United lacked adventure and originality, and accused them of negative tactics. Barcelona never really lose a football match because, even when they do, they assume a default position of moral superiority.
Indeed, to complete this vision of holiness, Barcelona have the name of a charity, Unicef, on their shirts, where Champions League finalists United will have AIG, a bankrupt American insurance company and symbol of all that is wrong in the world. It is a noble gesture, even if marketing experts predict that the Unicef logo, the first to be placed on the hallowed red and blue, is the thin end of a wedge that will end with Barcelona embracing capitalism with the biggest shirt sponsorship in history.

The current deal runs out in 2011 and by then supporters will be used to the concept. Certainly, Barcelona are not so naive in other commercial areas and currently have arrangements with Nike, Coca-Cola, Audi, TV3, Estrella Damm, La Caixa, bwin, Acer, MediaPro, NH Hoteles, Vueling and Babybel.

The reality is that Barcelona are a great club and this current group of players are a great team, perhaps the best ticket in town; but that is all they are. They are not on a mission from high to save football, they are not above the odd foul, or the odd game that is not so beautiful. Barcelona players have been shown 21 yellow cards in the Champions League this season, compared to 11 for Manchester United. They have conceded 13 goals, as opposed to six by United. United have had more shots on target, too.

The latest twist in the build-up to the final is Barcelona's pledge to endorse United's attempt to have Darren Fletcher's red card rescinded, on the understanding that United are similarly supportive of the reinstatement of Alves (30 fouls, remember) or Eric Abidal. A carve-up? Surely not.

There is a huge amount to admire in Barcelona's play and their ethos under Guardiola. Yet this is best left for others to judge. Self-praise is no recommendation and every time Barcelona smugly remind us of their wonderfulness, they become less than a club, more a puffed-up pain in the neck.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Minder on May 11, 2009, 09:17:23 AM
Let it go Norf............
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 11, 2009, 09:28:11 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2009, 09:17:23 AM
Let it go Norf............

NO. NO I WILL NOT.

Kennedy died because he knew the truth. N-U-R-S-E.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 11, 2009, 10:05:04 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 11, 2009, 09:28:11 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2009, 09:17:23 AM
Let it go Norf............

NO. NO I WILL NOT.

Kennedy died because he knew the truth. N-U-R-S-E.

I note on MOTD2 last evening following a 4-1 tanking of Arsenal on their patch, Chelsea were barely mentioned by the panel ::)  Best laugh was this morning hearing that Wenger had accused Drogba of diving.  He obviously missed Adebayor.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 11, 2009, 10:08:52 AM
Angry Chelsea supporters want to get their own back on Norwegian referee Tom Henning Ovrebo, who made a number of controversial decisions in the Blues' Champions League semi-final, second leg against Barcelona. They have set up an internet campaign to stop Norway winning the Eurovision song contest.


:D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 11, 2009, 11:07:53 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 11, 2009, 10:05:04 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 11, 2009, 09:28:11 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2009, 09:17:23 AM
Let it go Norf............

NO. NO I WILL NOT.

Kennedy died because he knew the truth. N-U-R-S-E.

I note on MOTD2 last evening following a 4-1 tanking of Arsenal on their patch, Chelsea were barely mentioned by the panel ::)  Best laugh was this morning hearing that Wenger had accused Drogba of diving.  He obviously missed Adebayor.

As soon as Adebayor went down, I thought 'oh f**k. If the ref buys this Pete could miss the cup final'!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Doogie Browser on May 11, 2009, 10:06:28 PM
Norf Tyrone has been offline most of today...

Three die in shooting in Norway
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8044826.stm
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 11, 2009, 11:53:10 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 11, 2009, 10:06:28 PM
Norf Tyrone has been offline most of today...

Three die in shooting in Norway
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8044826.stm

Apparently yer man Tom was there when it happened. When police arrived, he had his arms outstretched waving play on.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: wherefromreferee? on May 22, 2009, 04:14:11 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/8043277.stm

Drogba and Bosingwa in trouble
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 22, 2009, 10:22:27 PM
Well done to Frank Lampard who lifted the Chelsea player of the year for the 3rd time last night, the first person to do so.

I'd go as far as saying, Lampard is now Chelsea's greatest ever player.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Minder on May 22, 2009, 10:31:08 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 22, 2009, 10:22:27 PM
Well done to Frank Lampard who lifted the Chelsea player of the year for the 3rd time last night, the first person to do so.

I'd go as far as saying, Lampard is now Chelsea's greatest ever player.

Better than Robert Fleck?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 22, 2009, 10:33:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 22, 2009, 10:31:08 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 22, 2009, 10:22:27 PM
Well done to Frank Lampard who lifted the Chelsea player of the year for the 3rd time last night, the first person to do so.

I'd go as far as saying, Lampard is now Chelsea's greatest ever player.

Better than Robert Fleck?

The legend. Now if you had've said John Spencer.... he WAS a legend.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 25, 2009, 12:19:48 AM
Nice of the MOTD pundits to mention that Anelka had collected the golden boot.  ???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Over the Bar on May 25, 2009, 12:30:22 AM
QuoteNice of the MOTD pundits to mention that Anelka had collected the golden boot. 

Should be awarded based on goals the day the title is won not at the end of the season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 25, 2009, 12:51:46 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on May 25, 2009, 12:30:22 AM
QuoteNice of the MOTD pundits to mention that Anelka had collected the golden boot. 

Should be awarded based on goals the day the title is won not at the end of the season.

Good point. Congratulations Louis Saha then.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 25, 2009, 01:02:07 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 25, 2009, 12:19:48 AM
Nice of the MOTD pundits to mention that Anelka had collected the golden boot.  ???

Can't believe they overlooked this most important of awards. Clearly an anti-Chelsea conspiracy.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 25, 2009, 01:51:57 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 25, 2009, 01:02:07 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 25, 2009, 12:19:48 AM
Nice of the MOTD pundits to mention that Anelka had collected the golden boot.  ???

Can't believe they overlooked this most important of awards. Clearly an anti-Chelsea conspiracy.

It's not the most important, but it's a trophy for the top goal scorer in the world's best league. Would they have mentioned it if Rooney, Gerard or Ronaldo had've won it today with a 25 yard screamer a la our Nic?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 25, 2009, 12:12:52 PM
Strong rumour this morning that Chelsea have signed Twente's Marko Arnautovic for £10 million, and Dean Sturridge on a free. They will inject much needed pace at least.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 25, 2009, 03:28:19 PM
Pity Anelka's goal yesterday came too late for Goal of The Season...wasn't mentioned by the panel either.  Is it just me or were the Goal of the Season contenders for the most part fairly average?? ???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Billys Boots on May 25, 2009, 03:56:05 PM
QuoteThe legend. Now if you had've said John Spencer.... he WAS a legend.

Or Kerry Dixon.  :P  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 25, 2009, 04:31:07 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 25, 2009, 03:28:19 PM
Pity Anelka's goal yesterday came too late for Goal of The Season...wasn't mentioned by the panel either.  Is it just me or were the Goal of the Season contenders for the most part fairly average?? ???

I thought the same. Shite.
Giggs', Fullers were average.

IIRC I think Johnson's goal for Pompey will win it, but I liked Carlton Cole's too.

Now Kerry Dixon was more, much, much, more than a legend. Met the great many several times, and betrays the notion you shouldn't meet your heroes. A gentleman. I've gone all Feronism on you haven't I.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Billys Boots on May 25, 2009, 04:44:49 PM
QuoteI've gone all Feronism on you haven't I.

Well, you were provoked.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 25, 2009, 05:11:47 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 22, 2009, 10:22:27 PM
Well done to Frank Lampard who lifted the Chelsea player of the year for the 3rd time last night, the first person to do so.

I'd go as far as saying, Lampard is now Chelsea's greatest ever player.

Fortunately I am old enough to have seen Peter Osgood (RIP) and Charlie Cooke...no one will ever touch these two!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: AFS on May 26, 2009, 01:00:13 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 25, 2009, 12:12:52 PM
Strong rumour this morning that Chelsea have signed Twente's Marko Arnautovic for £10 million, and Dean Sturridge on a free. They will inject much needed pace at least.

So who is signing these players then? If, and its a big if, this is true then Chelsea must already have their man for next season in the bag. Either that or managers at Chelsea still don't get to decide which players are signed.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 26, 2009, 08:18:41 AM
Quote from: AFS on May 26, 2009, 01:00:13 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 25, 2009, 12:12:52 PM
Strong rumour this morning that Chelsea have signed Twente's Marko Arnautovic for £10 million, and Dean Sturridge on a free. They will inject much needed pace at least.

So who is signing these players then? If, and its a big if, this is true then Chelsea must already have their man for next season in the bag. Either that or managers at Chelsea still don't get to decide which players are signed.

It was a bit like Bosingwa last year. Who signed him?
Sometimes a lot of these signings are made months in advance. If Hiddink said in Feb/ Mar they were worth signings, maybe they are worth a risk. Do you honestly think Fergis and Rafa pick all the players they sign. Some are scouted, some are signed by the board for merchandise reasons.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 29, 2009, 01:29:00 AM
Well now that all the sideshows are out of the way, it's now time for the 'World's greatest competition' on Saturday.

I'll be honest and state that bar the debacle of 2002, and the inevitability of 1994, I haven't been as confident about winning a FA Cup final ever. That scares me. However Everton should be underestimated at Chelsea's peril. The amount of injuries they have suffered this season has been amazing, but they've constantly brushed themselves down and got on with it. The Jagielka injury being a case in point. Everyone thought they'd struggle when he hit the hay, but Yobo has come in and their very good run has continued.

In addition both games this year have been tight, 0-0 and 0-0 (Bet the neutrals can't wait). That would suggest that they'll be little in it again. Nonetheless Chelsea are a different animal under Hiddink, and he'll leave a big void around 4.50pm (or more if ET and penalties) on Saturday. The front three of Drogba, Anelka and who-has-snatched-my-body Malouda interchange, pass, and move that means that the ball is less direct but worked through the channels. I feel that if the three continue this on Saturday, the Everton back four will struggle, and the game will be won and lost. If. The only wee concern is that Lampard has been off key the last week or two. However he has not played now in two weeks, which might be the rest he required.

Thankfully Chelsea appear to be going into the game with no new injury worries bar the long term absence of Joe Cole, which means that Hiddink's 11 picks itself bar the Ballack or Mikel dilema.

Cech, Bosingwa, Terry, Alex, Cole, Essien, Lampard, Mikel or Ballack, Malouda, Drogba, Anelka.

As an aside I've had a gut feel for Malouda to hit the first goal at Wembley for the last few weeks. I am guessing he'll be in the 10 range, so might be worth a tenner.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 29, 2009, 11:25:18 AM
Malouda is 12/1 to score first with Ladbrokes (who amazingly have Quaresma at 10/1 :o).  I'm having a fiver on Terry @ 16's, though I'm tempted to have a nibble at Alex (Ooooh Matron!) @ 25/1.  What with the media's obsession with Man Utd up until about 9:45pm on Wednesday the build up to the Cup Final has been low key.  I agree with NT that the team virtually picks itself and I think Hiddink (please stay!) will go with Ballack...maybe a last hurrah for both?  Everton are not a bad side and I've great regard for Moyes as a manager so I'd think things will be tight enough. 1-0 to Chelsea???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: corn02 on May 29, 2009, 11:26:56 AM
Zhirkov signed apparently.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 29, 2009, 04:05:28 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 29, 2009, 11:26:56 AM
Zhirkov signed apparently.
His name has been banded about for some time now. I know little about him, but he sounds like exactly what's needed, and some of the decent posters on the Chelsea forums (Not me or MQP) on other sites have been touting him for ages... based on that, IF he signs it'll be a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Minder on May 30, 2009, 05:43:12 PM

Chelsea embroiled in row on eve of FA Cup Final
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/chelsea/article6391102.ece



Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The 2009 FA Cup Finalists!
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 31, 2009, 09:30:17 PM
This must be the worse hangover ever. In pub at 2pm, and left at 2.30am... totally f**ked.

Anyhow. Pretty good final I thought. When Saha scored, I thought that Everton had scored too early, if that's a bad thing. After that Chelsea dominated. Malouda was outstanding, and really took Hibbert to the cleaners. When Jacobsen came on Everton got a foot hold again, but Malouda still had a good second half. Deservedly Ashley Cole got MOTM, but the French man would not have been far behind I'd say, and was robbed of a bit of folklore by the linesman missing his effort that crossed the line. The officials were deemed to have had a good game yesterday which is true, bar the goal that crossed the line, Lampard being denied a penalty and booked for diving and the fact that Everton's goal was offside. At least it was not costly this time.

As I said, Everton had a bit of a foothold until the main man once again pulled something out of the locker with 20 minutes to go. A man for the big occasion is our Frank.


Bed time for me I'd say now...and farewell to Guus. What an impact he had over the 3 or 4 months, and I'll depart with this ditty from yesterday.

We'll drink, a drink, a drink
To Guus Hiddink, Hiddink, Hiddink
The saviour of Chelsea's season
He reinvented Flourent Malouda
Now most creative in every way.


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on June 01, 2009, 10:11:44 AM
Hope you're feeling a bit better NT.  Very happy with the win, Chelsea dominated and I thought Everton were poor (though I know they were missing a couple of good players).  Still a bit to go for Everton to compete with the best.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 01, 2009, 10:22:36 AM
Carlo Ancholitti (sp) appointed as new Chelski boss, on a side note you have Jeffrey Donaldson as your nuimber one fan!  :o ::) ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: full back on June 01, 2009, 10:38:28 AM
Former AC Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti has been appointed Chelsea manager on a three-year deal.

The Italian left the Rossoneri on Sunday after guiding them to a third-place finish in Serie A.

He replaces Russian international coach Guus Hiddink who ended his stint at Stamford Bridge by clinching the FA Cup over the weekend.

"Carlo was the outstanding candidate for the job," read a statement on the Chelsea website.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 01, 2009, 10:42:03 AM
The worse kept secret in football then.

His trophy return (Lack of), and his English (Lack of) would be a big concern, but got to give the fella a chance. However I ain't editing the thread title for a week or two yet.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on June 01, 2009, 10:58:31 AM
Hmmm...wait and see time
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on June 01, 2009, 11:08:54 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on June 01, 2009, 10:42:03 AM
The worse kept secret in football then.

His trophy return (Lack of), and his English (Lack of) would be a big concern, but got to give the fella a chance. However I ain't editing the thread title for a week or two yet.


Two European Cups in 4 years ?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 01, 2009, 12:37:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 01, 2009, 11:08:54 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on June 01, 2009, 10:42:03 AM
The worse kept secret in football then.

His trophy return (Lack of), and his English (Lack of) would be a big concern, but got to give the fella a chance. However I ain't editing the thread title for a week or two yet.


Two European Cups in 4 years ?

I know. Cups suggest a good manager. Leagues suggest great ones, and he has only one league title.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: slow corner back on June 01, 2009, 03:57:44 PM
Did he win that one or was it the bribery one?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 01, 2009, 05:46:14 PM
I notice a lot of posters refering to class, or lack of in the United and Lpool threads. Noted that not one of ye's ungracious lot came on here, and said 'well done' to Chelsea.

I even left it to the boys (and girls) were back at work again too.

:D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: full back on June 01, 2009, 05:48:18 PM
(http://photo.net/general-comments/attachment/13905187/WellDone.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 03, 2009, 08:42:17 AM
What will it take for football to rank Chelsea star Frank?


By Jeff Powell


One of several theories as to why Vincent Van Gogh cut off his ear is that
this was an insane attempt to draw attention to his unrecognised genius. If
so, it did not work.


Like so many great artists down the years, Van Gogh did not become fully
appreciated until after he died in poverty, in his case by committing
suicide at the age of 37.


It is to be hoped that Frank Lampard does not resort to such measures.


Once again, the brilliance of this young master has gone unrewarded by those
who presume to sit in judgment of his talent.


In a sublime moment of power, grace and inspiration, it was Lampard who won
the 2009 FA Cup final for Chelsea.


Yet the Man of the Match honour went to his team's left back.


This is not to say that Ashley Cole did not play well; he gave a display of
the highest quality. But there was more than one dazzling brush stroke to
Lampard's virtuoso performance on Saturday.


While that decisive goal was a work of art - Lampard turning like Nureyev
and regaining his balance before sweeping a majestic shot high into the net
- the entire Wembley turf was his canvas.


He coloured it with surging runs, gallant tackles and, above all, exquisite
passes, one of which opened the path to Chelsea's first-half equaliser.


Artistry does not always come reinforced by box-to-box work rate, but
Lampard combines those qualities to more profound effect than any other
footballer in this country.


Then, in addition to dictating the play and dominating matches, he scores
more goals from midfield than many a striker. Twenty or more in each of the
past four seasons.


Last year, his 20th came against Manchester United in Europe's Champions
League final. This May, it has come in the FA Cup final against Everton.


As Chelsea's departing caretaker manager Guus Hiddink marvelled: 'He
delivers the turning point in big games so often. This is the trademark of
the world-class player. This was a typical goal from him, not easy, but
perfect and beautiful.'


Yet, when his fellow footballers came to select the PFA team of the year,
not only did they leave him out, they neglected even to nominate him as a
candidate. Shame on them.


Lampard's peers should know better than the fans, better even than the
professional critics who have a tendency to damn him with faint praise, if
not overlook him completely.


Shame, too, on all who booed Lampard when his England managers failed so
unaccountably to devise a system which could accommodate both himself and
Steven Gerrard.


Lampard's response has been to keep playing every match - rotation to him
means getting around every corner of the pitch, not being rested from games
in case he is tired - and keep scoring vital goals.


Good behaviour is rooted in a decent home and it is there that Lampard gets
the appreciation he prizes most.


Just as he dedicated goals to his mother when she died, so he celebrated
this FA Cup winner by imitating the jig round a corner flag performed by his
father, Frank Snr, when he scored the clincher for West Ham in the 1980
semi-final replay.


Everton, the losers on both occasions, could be forgiven for wondering what
they have
done to provoke the Lampards.


Yet manager David Moyes - who has worked wonders of his own on a restricted
budget - praised Frank Jnr as 'a great player who wins big matches - this
one included, even though we talked a lot about trying to contain him'.


Lampard is the envy of other managers. Jose Mourinho makes no secret of
wishing he could have taken with him from Chelsea to Inter Milan 'the best
player in the world'.


Sir Alex Ferguson calls him 'exceptional' and 'outstanding'.


For Chelsea, as Carlo Ancelotti becomes their sixth manager in five years,
the future would offer even less stability without Lampard in his
30-year-old prime.


Yet, while one of football's multimillionaires is neither living in poverty
nor liable to commit suicide, the world at large may not grasp what an
artist they have been  watching until after he has gone. Not even if he cuts
off an ear.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on June 04, 2009, 10:16:42 AM
Guardian reports that Chelsea are trying to buy David Villa and Franck Ribery.  I've always rated Villa and think he has the game for "English" football but for me Ribery has always flattered to deceive.  Any thoughts Norf and others??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 04, 2009, 02:23:06 PM
Villa and Ribery are the quality Chelsea need. They'll give that bit of something different. As long as Chelsea aren't shafted on the price.

My sources tell me that Ross Turnball (Cudicini's replacement) and Sturridge are all but signed and sealed. Two good free transfers to bolster the squad.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 06, 2009, 11:03:06 PM
Young Miro's first ever international goal...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rImgdmxDjnc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rImgdmxDjnc)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 17, 2009, 02:48:16 PM
Not too bad start to the season.

Hull (H)
Sunderland (A)
Fulham (A)

The fixtures during the ACN are also not too bad.

However the run in is good craic. Last three away games are Lpool, Man United, and Arsenal. Looks like Liverpool might see the premiership being lifted this season after all..
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: The Real Laoislad on June 17, 2009, 04:40:18 PM
Drogba suspended for 4 games for his outburst at the end of Chelsea/Barcelona game
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 17, 2009, 04:45:19 PM
And 4 games for Bosingwa!!

UEFA's contempt for Chelsea bourne out with a £100,000 for supposed crowd trouble at the game. FFS.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: AFS on June 17, 2009, 04:48:29 PM
What ever about the other lads, how did Ballack manage to get off scott free after his forearm to the side of the ref's head? If anything I thought that was worse than Drogba going a bit mental at the end.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on June 17, 2009, 04:52:07 PM
No suspension for the ref then?? ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 17, 2009, 04:56:37 PM
Quote from: AFS on June 17, 2009, 04:48:29 PM
What ever about the other lads, how did Ballack manage to get off scott free after his forearm to the side of the ref's head? If anything I thought that was worse than Drogba going a bit mental at the end.

What other lads?

Ballack's forearm smash? A bit of artistic licence there. Sure the ref booked Ballack for that 'forearm smash', and as you know UEFA cannot change a card post a game.... unless it's Michael Essien and the other team are Liverpool.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: AFS on June 17, 2009, 05:02:54 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on June 17, 2009, 04:56:37 PM
Quote from: AFS on June 17, 2009, 04:48:29 PM
What ever about the other lads, how did Ballack manage to get off scott free after his forearm to the side of the ref's head? If anything I thought that was worse than Drogba going a bit mental at the end.

What other lads?

Ballack's forearm smash? A bit of artistic licence there. Sure the ref booked Ballack for that 'forearm smash', and as you know UEFA cannot change a card post a game.... unless it's Michael Essien and the other team are Liverpool.

Drogba and Bosingwa.

I didn't say smash, I know he only brushed the side of the ref's head. But I would've thought UEFA would've been more worried about that than Drogba, who really only threw a bit of a hissy fit.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 17, 2009, 05:05:17 PM
Quote from: AFS on June 17, 2009, 05:02:54 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on June 17, 2009, 04:56:37 PM
Quote from: AFS on June 17, 2009, 04:48:29 PM
What ever about the other lads, how did Ballack manage to get off scott free after his forearm to the side of the ref's head? If anything I thought that was worse than Drogba going a bit mental at the end.

What other lads?

Ballack's forearm smash? A bit of artistic licence there. Sure the ref booked Ballack for that 'forearm smash', and as you know UEFA cannot change a card post a game.... unless it's Michael Essien and the other team are Liverpool.

Drogba and Bosingwa.

I didn't say smash, I know he only brushed the side of the ref's head. But I would've thought UEFA would've been more worried about that than Drogba, who really only threw a bit of a hissy fit.

Sorry.... misread your original post. Too busy to get my defence in  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 17, 2009, 05:19:39 PM
Questions that need to be asked of UEFA

1. A two-match ban is the penalty set out in your rules for harrassment of the referee. Please explain why you have seen fit to impose three times that penalty on Didier Drogba, especially as the player was given a yellow card not a red card by the referee.

2. Jose Bosingwa described the referee as a "thief" in an interview with Portuguese TV. He subsequently apologised for this remark. Is it your normal practice to impose a four-match ban on players for remarks made after a game? What is the precedent for this punishment?

3. We understand that the UEFA referees committee held a meeting following the Chelsea-Barcelona semi-final to review the performance of the match officials. Is it your intention to publish the findings of this meeting, and/or to inform the public of any decisions taken?


Below is post the Barce and Arsenal CL a few years back. Guess how many games Wenger and Henry got?
QuoteManager Arsene Wenger claimed that some of Hauge's decisions were "suspicious" and reiterated his desire to see video replays used for controversial decisions.
Wenger and Thierry Henry both launched bitter attacks after the game, the striker saying that the referee "might as well have been wearing a Barcelona shirt".
Henry will not face any action for his emotional outburst and team-mates joined in the criticism of Hauge
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2009, 08:41:56 PM
Harsh but I've no pity with Drogba, couldn't have happened to a better person.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 30, 2009, 12:34:17 AM
Well not much happening here!

Wednesday will probably see Sturridge and Turnball confirmed, with Zhirkov apparantly en route.

A quiet one so far though....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 03, 2009, 01:56:03 AM
A big Gaa Board Chelsea welcome to the Turnballator.

Chelsea turn down £30 million bid for Terry.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 03, 2009, 08:18:33 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 03, 2009, 01:56:03 AM
A big Gaa Board Chelsea welcome to the Turnballator.

Chelsea turn down £30 million bid for Terry.

I don't know what City are playing at trying to bid for Terry  :o

Even if they offer to double his salary, not a chance he will leave Chelsea.

Good luck with Sturridge, great player but has a stinking attitude.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 03, 2009, 06:17:53 PM
So Sturridge signs...
... that's two signings in two days. This reminds me of Roman's arrival. I'd say tomorrow Ribery, Sunday Pato, Monday is Villa, Dean Windass on Tues and pre season on Wednesday. Sorted.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: gawa316 on July 03, 2009, 11:29:05 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 03, 2009, 06:17:53 PM
So Sturridge signs...
... that's two signings in two days. This reminds me of Roman's arrival. I'd say tomorrow Ribery, Sunday Pato, Monday is Villa, Dean Windass on Tues and pre season on Wednesday. Sorted.

What's the craic with Sturridge? never seen him play but surely if he was any good he would have played a bit more for citee
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: under the bar on July 03, 2009, 11:58:17 PM
QuoteQuestions that need to be asked of UEFA

Perhaps Chelsea should start asking a few questions of themselves given the reported disgraceful behaviour of their management, officials and fans surrounding their failures in CL in recent years?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 04, 2009, 10:06:28 AM
Quote from: under the bar on July 03, 2009, 11:58:17 PM
QuoteQuestions that need to be asked of UEFA

Perhaps Chelsea should start asking a few questions of themselves given the reported disgraceful behaviour of their management, officials and fans surrounding their failures in CL in recent years?

You're probably right to an extent, but it doesn't mean the relevant questions cannot be asked of an biased organisation.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 06, 2009, 10:53:02 AM
Gooooood morning Carlo Ancellotti....

.... and it's a big welcome to Yuri Zhirkov.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Doogie Browser on July 06, 2009, 11:17:26 AM
What of John Terry then?
Sky sports news were saying that his silence over the Man City link hints at an interest from him to listen at least?...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 06, 2009, 11:29:15 AM
John Terry and Mark Hughes were on holiday in the same resort last week in Dubai, before City's bid went in on Thursday night.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 06, 2009, 01:41:20 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on July 06, 2009, 11:17:26 AM
What of John Terry then?
Sky sports news were saying that his silence over the Man City link hints at an interest from him to listen at least?...

Personally. I think it's shite, but who knows. What about Ashley Young's silence about his move to the Bridge, or Mascherano's silence about heading to Barce. Players can't come out every time there is speculation and deny the links. Otherwise they'd be in front of the press every day.

What I do know, is that Chelsea should report City to the FA at this stage. Chelsea have quite rightly been hauled over the coals for misbehaviour in the transfer market, and what City (Reportedly) are doing now breaks FA laws.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 06, 2009, 02:29:31 PM
I think I read somewhere that City seem to think they have acted accordingly. Not sure how they work that out though.

I think its fair to say though that all players are tapped up in some way. Some more so than others.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ludermor on July 06, 2009, 02:42:48 PM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/pound200000-a-week-tempts-terry-as-manchester-city-prepare-new-pound40-million-bid-1807448.html

The indo says City will offer £40m and wages of £200k/week!!!!  :o :o
Hard to turn that down ( player and club!)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 06, 2009, 03:00:58 PM
Been here before with City offering big money and wages, but not sure it would be enough to tempt Terry away from the Bridge. He is Chelsea through and through and hard to see him leave this late in his career.

Good article on Chelsea's own Peter K. That man is a clown.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1197668/Chelsea-s-Peter-K-funnier-original.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1197668/Chelsea-s-Peter-K-funnier-original.html)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 06, 2009, 03:23:31 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on July 06, 2009, 02:29:31 PM
I think I read somewhere that City seem to think they have acted accordingly. Not sure how they work that out though.

I think its fair to say though that all players are tapped up in some way. Some more so than others.

I think there is a rule that states that clubs must NOT bid for a player after the other club categorically state that he is not for sale. It's sort of anti-unsettling clause.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on July 13, 2009, 01:06:30 PM
What do you make of Terry pimping himself to City Norf? Leverage for a new deal at Chelsea or head turned by a possible £250k p/w ?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 13, 2009, 07:53:45 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 13, 2009, 01:06:30 PM
What do you make of Terry pimping himself to City Norf? Leverage for a new deal at Chelsea or head turned by a possible £250k p/w ?

Sorry I was away all day. What happened today? What did Terry say?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 13, 2009, 08:02:47 PM
He hasn't said anything which is adding to the rumours. Think he met with the club on Saturday to discuss his future. It seems a bit odd that him or Chelsea hasn't come out to say that he's staying. From what I've read, he has become disillusioned with Chelsea constantly changing managers, no big name signings and a new challenge with City.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on July 13, 2009, 08:09:44 PM
Hugh's rarely too far off the mark:

Poor little rich boy
Hugh McIlvanney
Sunday Times

Apparently a major reason for the absence of a clear response from John Terry to Manchester City's money-laden overtures is the uneasiness stirred in the Chelsea captain by a sense that his present employers aren't doing enough to demonstrate their eagerness to keep him at Stamford Bridge. Isn't that poignant? Surely nobody at Chelsea is sufficiently insensitive to imagine that paying Terry a wage generally estimated at upwards of £130,000 per week can be regarded as adequate proof of the kind of cherishing he seemingly needs.

Isn't it an unbearable insult that the club owner, Roman Abramovich, hasn't personally backed up, preferably with hugs and manly Russian kisses, the uncharacteristically gushing assurances volunteered by the newly arrived manager, Carlo Ancelotti? The Italian waxed lyrical about Terry as a leader and inspiring symbol he sees as inseparable from his plans for Chelsea. But shouldn't the expression of loving appreciation take the form of a raising of the captain's wages to a level that relates more favourably to the gargantuan sums (guesses range from £200,000 to £300,000 a week) quoted in connection with Manchester City's bid for his services? You don't think so? Neither do I.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 13, 2009, 08:53:44 PM
There are really three schools of thought.

1. City have bid £30 to £40 million for Terry. Chelsea have turned it down. After the first offer, Chelsea told JT about the offer, and he stated his desire to remain at Chelsea for life. Terry nor Chelsea feel they are obliged to report to the press every five minutes that he still wants to stay at the Bridge.

2. City have bid £30 to £40 million for Terry. Chelsea have turned it down. After the first offer, Chelsea told JT about the offer, and he stated his desire to remain at Chelsea for life. Since then Terry (And agent) have hatched a plan to use this as a way of getting a extra few quid a week from Chelsea.

3. City have bid £30 to £40 million for Terry. Chelsea have turned it down. After the first offer, Chelsea told JT about the offer, and he stated his desire to remain at Chelsea for life. Since then City have tapped Terry up, and tempted him with a MASSIVE hike in wages. Terry wants the money. However he doesn't want to appear like a mercenary, so he needs Chelsea to accept an offer. Chelsea don't want to look like they are flogging their captain, so need Terry to hand in a transfer request.


I have seen very few direct quotes that give substance to numbers 2 and 3. Loads of a source said, Terry is believed to, and a City/Chelsea insider has said. However IF 'Mr Chelsea' wants more money, and more loyalty than the £125,000 a week he is currently on, I'll be happy to see him leave and take the £30 million.

It also be another nail in football's coffin for me.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on July 13, 2009, 08:59:33 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 13, 2009, 08:53:44 PM
There are really three schools of thought.

1. City have bid £30 to £40 million for Terry. Chelsea have turned it down. After the first offer, Chelsea told JT about the offer, and he stated his desire to remain at Chelsea for life. Terry nor Chelsea feel they are obliged to report to the press every five minutes that he still wants to stay at the Bridge.

2. City have bid £30 to £40 million for Terry. Chelsea have turned it down. After the first offer, Chelsea told JT about the offer, and he stated his desire to remain at Chelsea for life. Since then Terry (And agent) have hatched a plan to use this as a way of getting a extra few quid a week from Chelsea.

3. City have bid £30 to £40 million for Terry. Chelsea have turned it down. After the first offer, Chelsea told JT about the offer, and he stated his desire to remain at Chelsea for life. Since then City have tapped Terry up, and tempted him with a MASSIVE hike in wages. Terry wants the money. However he doesn't want to appear like a mercenary, so he needs Chelsea to accept an offer. Chelsea don't want to look like they are flogging their captain, so need Terry to hand in a transfer request.


I have seen very few direct quotes that give substance to numbers 2 and 3. Loads of a source said, Terry is believed to, and a City/Chelsea insider has said. However IF 'Mr Chelsea' wants more money, and more loyalty than the £125,000 a week he is currently on, I'll be happy to see him leave and take the £30 million.

It also be another nail in football's coffin for me.

Excellent post. The only credance you could offer for Terry's supposed dithering is the complete managerial uncertainty year after year under Abramovich, something that surely'd piss the long-term players off.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on July 13, 2009, 10:23:16 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 13, 2009, 07:53:45 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 13, 2009, 01:06:30 PM
What do you make of Terry pimping himself to City Norf? Leverage for a new deal at Chelsea or head turned by a possible £250k p/w ?

Sorry I was away all day. What happened today? What did Terry say?

Chelsea tell Terry to put up or shut up - Sunday Times

Roman Abramovich met John Terry yesterday as Chelsea called their captain's bluff over his highly public flirtation with Manchester City. The Russian billionaire will reject a third, £30m-plus bid for their captain this week and has told Terry there is no intention of matching City's offer to double his pay to £250,000 a week.

While Abramovich is ready to make Terry the best-paid player at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea's owner will not go significantly beyond the £150,000-a-week salary granted to Frank Lampard last summer. For his part, Terry is understood to have requested permission to speak openly with City about their plans. Chelsea denied that was the case last night. There have already been significant under-the-table discussions and the England international has asked football dealmaker Chris Nathaniel to help negotiate with City.

Nathaniel already represents Robinho, City's current best-paid player, and Micah Richards. He has previously secured Terry a lucrative book deal, works extensively with his England teammate Rio Ferdinand and last season fronted a Nigerian takeover bid for Newcastle United that came to nothing.

Terry's advisers say he has been disquieted by the time it took Chelsea to contact him after initial news of City's bid broke, and that he has had to wait a week to speak directly with Abramovich. They do not rule out the possibility of the centre-back joining City.

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Should Terry decide to place Sheikh Mansour's petrobillions ahead of his frequently stated devotion to Chelsea, the London club will force Terry to hand in a formal transfer request and make clear that the player is the driving force behind a move.

City remain confident that Terry will be their player before the new Premier League season begins. The England captain spent part of a recent holiday in Dubai with Mark Hughes and their manager believes that Terry is unhappy with Chelsea's failure to add top-class players to their squad and a lack of consultation over Carlo Ancelotti's appointment.

When City made their first unsuccessful bid for Terry in January, the player's agent, Aaron Lincoln, was negotiating the transfer of Wayne Bridge to Eastlands. During that period, Terry had expressed his discontent with the training methods of Luiz Felipe Scolari, Chelsea manager at the time, and a message was sent to City that the central defender "wanted out".

Hughes is in the market for two centre-backs and has calculated that Terry can reinforce his defence, providing leadership to what has been an often fragile team while satisfying his employer's desire for a star signing. City's decision on Friday to withdraw an offer for Barcelona striker Samuel Eto'o was believed to be partly motivated by their belief that Terry will go through with his exit from Chelsea.

Chelsea believe Terry is using City's overtures as a means of further improving his financial position and status at Stamford Bridge, and that the 29-year-old has no serious interest of leaving.

It would certainly be politically difficult for Terry to be seen as the instigator of a move away from a club with whom he has fashioned a public image of slavish loyalty. Talking in February about City's initial bid for him, Terry said: "Chelsea told me what had happened as a courtesy. I was very happy with their reaction, as mine would have been the same. I have always said that I want to end my career at the club which I love and we all see no reason why that cannot happen."

Though Terry has had several injuries in recent seasons, Chelsea continue to insist he is "not for sale at any price". The club are, however, mindful of dealings with Terry over his last contract talks in 2007, when he signed a five-year deal.

During those negotiations, Terry asked for a 10-year contract that included a clause guaranteeing he would be the club's best-paid player for the duration of the deal. The defender also wanted an option to become Chelsea's manager when he retired from playing.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 16, 2009, 03:56:24 PM
Young Miroslav Stoch away to Twente on loan. Good move for him. Rumours that Di Santo will join Blackburn on loan also floating about.

The Blues away to the U S of A today, and play Seattle on Saturday night. Some young centre half called Sean Terry or something has travelled I believe. Joe Cole has not gone, due to a minor operation.

Others of note going are, Sheva, Pizarro, and youngster Sam Hutchinson among the 26 man squad. Yuri Zhirkov to join the tour next week.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 18, 2009, 09:00:27 PM
Chelsea 2 Seattle 0 (HT) Sturruidge and Lampard.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 18, 2009, 10:42:32 PM
Ended two to zero.
Sturridge being the Chelsea MOTM.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 21, 2009, 11:25:16 PM
Looks like a new 3-year deal for Drogba.

CA says that he will favour 442 this year as opposedd to 433. Unfortunately that might mean the diamond formation.

States that unlikely Sheva and Pizarro will stay the season.

Frank Nouble turns down pro contract and heading to West Ham or less likely Arsenal.

Ballack breaks toe and misses a few weeks.

Bed time, as I am up at 4am to see Chelsea v José.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 22, 2009, 06:06:23 AM
Result from the Rose Bowl

Chelsea 2 Inter Milan 0

I know it's only pre season, but Chelsea were excellent. Passing, and moving left IM running in circles. Chelsea started with a 4-1-3-2 (I think), Mikel holding, Lampard in middle flanked by Essien and Malouda. Up front Drogba and Kalou.

Some VG performances by Mikel, Ashley, Lamps, JT, Carvalho and Alex. In addition Deco in the second half ran the show.

The goals were a 30 yarder that caught the keeper sleeping from Drogba, and a Lampard penalty.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: anportmorforjfc on July 22, 2009, 06:08:38 AM
Have yous any long term injures Norf, or are all of the squad near full fitness?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 22, 2009, 06:14:43 AM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on July 22, 2009, 06:08:38 AM
Have yous any long term injures Norf, or are all of the squad near full fitness?

Ferreria will be out for a wee while. Ballack has a broken toe which will keep him out for a few weeks. Joe Cole has a toe/ foot injury that means he'll miss the next 2/3 weeks of pre season, so might not be match fit for the premiership KO, and Bosingwa is injured but don't think it's anything major.

So nothing long term really. Only Fererria I think will not be fit for the premiership start.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 22, 2009, 06:44:30 PM
I see one of the papers this morning carried a story that Chelsea would be selling Mikel. Great timing by said reporter.

Obi Mikel has penned a new 5 year deal today. Good stuff.

Joins Malouda as having signed a new deal, Drogba rumoured to be doing so next week, and then we just need that young centre half to get the finger out.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Puckoon on July 22, 2009, 06:59:54 PM
Norf Chelsea looked superb last night. Although inter have failed to convince me in last night or Sundays game. Lampard, didier and cashley ( the wee ****) were brilliant. I actually thought vierra was great also.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 22, 2009, 07:06:33 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on July 22, 2009, 06:59:54 PM
Norf Chelsea looked superb last night. Although inter have failed to convince me in last night or Sundays game. Lampard, didier and cashley ( the wee ****) were brilliant. I actually thought vierra was great also.

I forgot that the ex pats would've been able to view the game at a civil hour. I am actually worried how sharp Chelsea looked last night to be honest. However It's got to be noted that Inter are probably 7-10 days behind Chelsea in terms of preperation so the performance should be taken with a pinch of salt.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 22, 2009, 08:28:15 PM
Interesting line by JT



John Terry on Manchester City move: "I promise that I will let you know in a couple of days"

Written by Alex Bogatiryov

Despite heavy security, great access was provided to the media for the Manager press conference and for the player mixing area outside of locker rooms.

Inter manager Jose Mourinho appeared very angry as he left the field and did not show up at the press-conference. In his place was Assistant Manager Daniele Bernazzini who spoke to the media with his Italian translator. The first question to him was obvious.

Q: "Daniele, why is Jose not here?"


A: Jose wants to give opportunities and space to other personnel to talk to media during pre-season as this is not possible to do during regular season.


When asked about Inter's lackluster performance in the match in general Daniele said

"This is an opportunity to play some young players and get them some action. It was a well played game; they just weren't able to make themselves dangerous enough on attack. Those two goals came from somewhat casual situations that could have been avoided." When asked about the Ibrahimovic situation and speculation on where he may be going, Daniele said the club has no comment.

Q: "Daniele, is Viera going to Tottenham?"


A: Viera played a great game and trains very well. Unfortunately last year was filled with injuries. I had to play him further upfront with Mancinni due to necessity of other players being injured.


With this Daniele said his goodbyes and Ancelotti soon arrived for a more lengthy conference.

Q: "Ancelotti, how satisfied are you with tonight's match?"


A: Very satisfied, we played very well and had excellent defense.


Q:"Carlo: will you continue using this tactic throughout the season?"


A: Yes, very good system. Like offensive midfielder and left and right backs pushing up the field.


Q: "Carlo: Will Frank Lampard be your Kaka at Chelsea? Will he be center of your team?"


A: "They are different players, but Frank Lampard worked very well. Kaka and Lampard have same importance for the team. Lampard can be center of Chelsea since he can play all positions, but I want to use him in offense."


Q: "Has the Chelsea Club improved since Seattle?"


A: "Yes, good control of game, this is how Chelsea should work."


Q: "How far is club from where it should be for Premiership (had to be translated for Lotti)


A: Pretty much at necessary level.


Q: "Did you meet with Jose?"


A: "No did not meet because was too busy."


Q: "Brilliant performance from Drogba today, is it time for new contract?"


A: "Definitely"


Q: "Deco and Carvahlo are important, will they remain with Chelsea?


A: "Yes, they will remain."


Q from Alex Bogatiryov – Soccerlens.com: "Carlo – do you see Andriy Shevchenko as part of Chelsea's future?


A from Carlo Ancelotti: "Shevchenko is a great striker who unfortunately did not play today. We have many strikers; felt Drogba needed this opportunity to play. Shevchenko will start in next match."


Q: "Is there a big difference between Premier League and Seria A?"


A: "There is no big difference."


Conference was over and I headed to the player mixing area. Lampard had no comments but I had a chance to introduce myself to the Captain John Terry who was kind enough to sign autographs and have a few words with me. I got right to the point with my question:

Q from Alex Bogatiryov – Soccerlens.com: "John – are you going to Manchester City?"


A: "I promise that I will let you know in a couple of days..."


Q from Alex Bogatiryov – Soccerlens.com: "Deco, are you happy that you remained at Chelsea instead of going to Inter?


A: "After today's match – yes, glad to be at Chelsea."


As the team buses were leaving the Rose Bowl stadium, Ancelotti and John Terry appeared to be having a serious discussion.


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 23, 2009, 10:49:38 AM
Reports today that City are prepared to offer Chelsea £50 million for Terry and offer Terry £1 million per month in wages!!

Absolutely ridiculous if true, but City's owners have told Hughes to get him no matter what it costs.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 25, 2009, 09:29:43 AM
Chelsea 2 AC Milan 1

A tougher test for Chelsea with Milan definatly ahead of their City rivals in terms of fitness at this stage of the season. Indeed AC drew a few saves from Cech, and rattled the bar once or twice as well.

Chelsea's first goal was a 30 yard screamer by Drogba, with Zhirkov on debut netting the winner. IIRC it was Seedorf who scored for AC.

3 wins from 3 in preseason to date, but the hype has to be controlled as Scolari started well last season too.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 26, 2009, 05:24:58 PM
Terry tells the Arabs where to go. Legend.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ludermor on July 26, 2009, 06:13:56 PM
Why didnt he just come straight out and confirmed his intention? What could have happened over the last few weeks to confirm he wanted to stay?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 26, 2009, 08:10:35 PM
Quote from: ludermor on July 26, 2009, 06:13:56 PM
Why didnt he just come straight out and confirmed his intention? What could have happened over the last few weeks to confirm he wanted to stay?

The thing is..... he did. He came out in January and said it. I think he thought why would he come out and say it and every City bid. I guess he got fed up with the speculation at last. However I wouldn't be surprised if he has at least signed a new deal that sees him become the joint best earner at the club, which as longest serving player, and captain he's probably entitled to.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: under the bar on July 26, 2009, 09:32:42 PM
QuoteTerry tells the Arabs where to go. Legend.

You mean Roman has given him a pay rise to stay.  Cut his arm open and you'll see a £ sign.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 26, 2009, 09:35:27 PM
Don't blame him for staying. He probably used City's interest to get his long-term future secured with Chelsea and on a pay level with other top earners. He has been at the club since he was 14, captain etc, and you have Michael Ballack who has been at the club 3 years and is getting paid more than Terry.

As for his silence over the past few weeks, he maybe was considering his options with no big name signings, constantly changing managers etc but possibly working with Ancelotti the past few weeks, seeing Chelsea putting in good performances in America as well as other key players commiting to the club has shown him that Chelsea will still be a force to be reckoned with next season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 26, 2009, 11:17:12 PM
Quote from: under the bar on July 26, 2009, 09:32:42 PM
QuoteTerry tells the Arabs where to go. Legend.

You mean Roman has given him a pay rise to stay.  Cut his arm open and you'll see a £ sign.

Really? So a guy that has remained with the one club through his career, and has always give 100% is chiefly motivated by money is what you are suggesting.  :D

Quote from: Archie Mitchell on July 26, 2009, 09:35:27 PM
Don't blame him for staying. He probably used City's interest to get his long-term future secured with Chelsea and on a pay level with other top earners. He has been at the club since he was 14, captain etc, and you have Michael Ballack who has been at the club 3 years and is getting paid more than Terry.

As for his silence over the past few weeks, he maybe was considering his options with no big name signings, constantly changing managers etc but possibly working with Ancelotti the past few weeks, seeing Chelsea putting in good performances in America as well as other key players commiting to the club has shown him that Chelsea will still be a force to be reckoned with next season.

Probably a lot of truth in that Archie, and good to see at last one Manc supporter showing a degree of maturity.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 26, 2009, 11:39:19 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 26, 2009, 11:17:12 PM
Quote from: under the bar on July 26, 2009, 09:32:42 PM
QuoteTerry tells the Arabs where to go. Legend.

You mean Roman has given him a pay rise to stay.  Cut his arm open and you'll see a £ sign.

Really? So a guy that has remained with the one club through his career, and has always give 100% is chiefly motivated by money is what you are suggesting.  :D

Quote from: Archie Mitchell on July 26, 2009, 09:35:27 PM
Don't blame him for staying. He probably used City's interest to get his long-term future secured with Chelsea and on a pay level with other top earners. He has been at the club since he was 14, captain etc, and you have Michael Ballack who has been at the club 3 years and is getting paid more than Terry.

As for his silence over the past few weeks, he maybe was considering his options with no big name signings, constantly changing managers etc but possibly working with Ancelotti the past few weeks, seeing Chelsea putting in good performances in America as well as other key players commiting to the club has shown him that Chelsea will still be a force to be reckoned with next season.

Probably a lot of truth in that Archie, and could to see at last one Manc supporter showing a degree of maturity.

No point calling it any other way. City are in a position financially to tempt players, but until they are a top 4 club, challenging for honours and in Europe then not alot of hope of enticing the big stars such as the failed attempts to sign Kaka, Eto'o and now Terry. Can't fault their ambition though, will take time and even José has given us the seal of approval for this year  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 27, 2009, 09:08:40 AM
Chelsea 2 Club America 0 (Di Santo, Malouda). First trophy bagged  :)

An excellent review of where Chelsea's preprerations stand in this article.




What have we learned from Chelsea's American tale?A new tactical approach, a squad meshing nicely and a warm US reception – Chelsea's pre-season has been something to write home about

Chelsea take on Club America beneath the 160ft by 73ft screen at the Dallas Cowboys' stadium. Photograph: Ronald Martinez/Getty Images

Chelsea's players departed the stunning new Cowboys stadium last night for London having secured the first trophy of what they hope will prove a glittering first campaign under Carlo Ancelotti. There are bigger priorities than the inaugural 2009 World Football Challenge yet, in defeating the Mexican side Club America here to maintain momentum from impressive wins over Internazionale and Milan, they will have drawn encouragement aplenty.

The zigzagging across the United States may have sapped energy, but Chelsea return home today far fitter than they left, with their captain's commitment to the club reaffirmed and the squad overseen by a manager who will have gleaned much over two weeks away with his players. Ancelotti will crave evidence of how his team fares under pressure in competitive fixtures, but this tour – marked by a wholeheartedly contested game against his former club, Milan, in Baltimore last Friday – has offered real glimpses of what Chelsea will offer in the campaign proper. So what, then, have we learned?

1) Tactically, Ancelotti intends to play a diamond in midfield, capped initially by Frank Lampard as the marauding playmaker with Deco and Salomon Kalou offered outings in the role against Club America last night. John Mikel Obi and Michael Essien are his first-choice midfield shields, though Michael Ballack may have had an opportunity to stake his claim for the role had he retained his fitness, and Deco had two outings in the position. There will be a pair of strikers – gone, apparently, are the days of 4-3-3 with Didier Drogba barging passage forward with only wide men for company – with the full-backs asked to supply the team's natural width. Luiz Felipe Scolari tried something similar a year ago but never really struck a balance between rip-roaring attack and defensive industry. The Italian in Ancelotti will not put up with frailties if the full-backs are caught too often up-field and the channels left exposed.

2) The team's play may prove far less direct than in recent seasons, with Ancelotti placing the onus on retaining possession in midfield, all neat triangles and overlaps, rather than seeking out Drogba's brawn and muscle through the middle. Inter and, at times, Milan seemed off the pace in coping with the slick approach, with Clarence Seedorf admitting he could already spy evidence of the Ancelotti effect taking hold of Chelsea. Whether Premier League opponents, starting with Manchester United in the Community Shield in under two weeks, find it quite so irresistible remains to be seen.

3) Manchester City could regret letting Daniel Sturridge slip away. The teenager actually stands more chance of making a mark at first-team level with Chelsea than he did at Eastlands given City's recent outlay on forwards. He impressed against Seattle Sounders with a debut goal and assist, unnerved Inter at times in California and should have added to his tally on tour against the Mexicans. Sturridge remains raw but, with his transfer fee still to be decided by a tribunal, he should prove a bargain.

4) Despite the lack of a marquee signing to date, Chelsea's squad retains its depth and quality, even with Joe Cole and Ballack back in Cobham undergoing rehabilitation from injury. Sturridge and Ross Turnbull are useful additions, the latter as a back-up goalkeeper, while Yuri Zhirkov – on the basis of his excellent debut against Milan – will offer balance, defensive surety and spring up-field whether he is employed at full-back or, more likely, in midfield. Deco, for now, and Ricardo Carvalho remain at the club, with the centre-half impressive and eager to put last season's toils behind him. The management had craved more flair, hence their interest in Franck Ribery, though Lampard – albeit in a different way – already appears a natural source of creativity and goals in the hole behind the forwards.

5) Andriy Shevchenko and Claudio Pizarro's days at the club are numbered. That is hardly a revelation given that each spent last season on loan away from Stamford Bridge. Yet the Chilean's impact was negligible and the Ukrainian, despite a new haircut and a public insistence that he would like to stay, appears to be on the fringes. Ancelotti confirmed he did not anticipate the man he rated so highly at Milan remaining beyond the 31 August transfer cut-off. Others, most probably the youngsters Michael Mancienne, Sam Hutchinson, Franco di Santo and Scott Sinclair, are expected to move elsewhere on loan in search of first-team experience.

6) Ancelotti's English is improving though it remains a work in progress. He appeared exhausted and frustrated at times at his inability to explain himself fully, which is utterly understandable, though good humour generally shone through and his assistant Bruno Demichelis is providing invaluable assistance as a makeshift interpreter. There appears to be a real determination about Ancelotti to expand his vocabulary, however, and first impressions suggest he will not fall into the same trap as Scolari, whose English rather stagnated once competitive games came thick and fast.

7) The United States appears to have taken to Chelsea. This was the Premier League club's fourth visit to the country in five years for pre-season and, at last, they have made their mark. Chelsea shirts littered the considerable crowds in Seattle, Pasadena, Baltimore and Arlington where the team played. The gates were magnificent. Some 81,224 people attended the 2–0 victory over Inter, and 71,203 the tight 2–1 win over Milan in Baltimore. The Cowboys stadium was heaving last night with just over 57,000 watching on despite Mexico having played the United States a few hours earlier in the final of the Gold Cup. When the Chelsea players appeared on the astonishing 160ft by 72ft high-definition LED television screen suspended above the playing surface of this arena – the largest screen of its type with 30,000,000 light bulbs and built at a cost of £25m – prior to kick-off, even the Hispanics in the crowd bellowed their appreciation. This club is making an impression in these parts.

Given the crammed schedule and draining west-east-west travelling, that represents a fine use of two weeks away. Chelsea will be buoyed that John Terry has committed his future to the club despite Manchester City's attempts to lure him away, and that has added gloss to their pre-season, but they gleaned far more from the brief spell in the US. The players expect to be back next summer, most likely to defend the trophy won courtesy of Di Santo and Florent Malouda's late goals. They should receive a hospitable welcome.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on July 27, 2009, 01:01:52 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 26, 2009, 05:24:58 PM
Terry tells the Arabs where to go. Legend.

Never in doubt! 8)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Hound on July 27, 2009, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 26, 2009, 05:24:58 PM
Terry tells the Arabs where to go. Legend.
Only after he squeezed "the club he loves" for every last penny he could.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 27, 2009, 01:39:39 PM
Quote from: Hound on July 27, 2009, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 26, 2009, 05:24:58 PM
Terry tells the Arabs where to go. Legend.
Only after he squeezed "the club he loves" for every last penny he could.


Well if he was only interested in money he would have went to City where he would have doubled his wages.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 27, 2009, 01:57:40 PM
Quote from: Hound on July 27, 2009, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 26, 2009, 05:24:58 PM
Terry tells the Arabs where to go. Legend.
Only after he squeezed "the club he loves" for every last penny he could.


Source?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on July 27, 2009, 04:02:58 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 27, 2009, 09:08:40 AM
Chelsea 2 Club America 0 (Di Santo, Malouda). First trophy bagged  :)

An excellent review of where Chelsea's preprerations stand in this article.




What have we learned from Chelsea's American tale?A new tactical approach, a squad meshing nicely and a warm US reception – Chelsea's pre-season has been something to write home about

Chelsea take on Club America beneath the 160ft by 73ft screen at the Dallas Cowboys' stadium. Photograph: Ronald Martinez/Getty Images

Chelsea's players departed the stunning new Cowboys stadium last night for London having secured the first trophy of what they hope will prove a glittering first campaign under Carlo Ancelotti. There are bigger priorities than the inaugural 2009 World Football Challenge yet, in defeating the Mexican side Club America here to maintain momentum from impressive wins over Internazionale and Milan, they will have drawn encouragement aplenty.

The zigzagging across the United States may have sapped energy, but Chelsea return home today far fitter than they left, with their captain's commitment to the club reaffirmed and the squad overseen by a manager who will have gleaned much over two weeks away with his players. Ancelotti will crave evidence of how his team fares under pressure in competitive fixtures, but this tour – marked by a wholeheartedly contested game against his former club, Milan, in Baltimore last Friday – has offered real glimpses of what Chelsea will offer in the campaign proper. So what, then, have we learned?

1) Tactically, Ancelotti intends to play a diamond in midfield, capped initially by Frank Lampard as the marauding playmaker with Deco and Salomon Kalou offered outings in the role against Club America last night. John Mikel Obi and Michael Essien are his first-choice midfield shields, though Michael Ballack may have had an opportunity to stake his claim for the role had he retained his fitness, and Deco had two outings in the position. There will be a pair of strikers – gone, apparently, are the days of 4-3-3 with Didier Drogba barging passage forward with only wide men for company – with the full-backs asked to supply the team's natural width. Luiz Felipe Scolari tried something similar a year ago but never really struck a balance between rip-roaring attack and defensive industry. The Italian in Ancelotti will not put up with frailties if the full-backs are caught too often up-field and the channels left exposed.

2) The team's play may prove far less direct than in recent seasons, with Ancelotti placing the onus on retaining possession in midfield, all neat triangles and overlaps, rather than seeking out Drogba's brawn and muscle through the middle. Inter and, at times, Milan seemed off the pace in coping with the slick approach, with Clarence Seedorf admitting he could already spy evidence of the Ancelotti effect taking hold of Chelsea. Whether Premier League opponents, starting with Manchester United in the Community Shield in under two weeks, find it quite so irresistible remains to be seen.

3) Manchester City could regret letting Daniel Sturridge slip away. The teenager actually stands more chance of making a mark at first-team level with Chelsea than he did at Eastlands given City's recent outlay on forwards. He impressed against Seattle Sounders with a debut goal and assist, unnerved Inter at times in California and should have added to his tally on tour against the Mexicans. Sturridge remains raw but, with his transfer fee still to be decided by a tribunal, he should prove a bargain.

4) Despite the lack of a marquee signing to date, Chelsea's squad retains its depth and quality, even with Joe Cole and Ballack back in Cobham undergoing rehabilitation from injury. Sturridge and Ross Turnbull are useful additions, the latter as a back-up goalkeeper, while Yuri Zhirkov – on the basis of his excellent debut against Milan – will offer balance, defensive surety and spring up-field whether he is employed at full-back or, more likely, in midfield. Deco, for now, and Ricardo Carvalho remain at the club, with the centre-half impressive and eager to put last season's toils behind him. The management had craved more flair, hence their interest in Franck Ribery, though Lampard – albeit in a different way – already appears a natural source of creativity and goals in the hole behind the forwards.

5) Andriy Shevchenko and Claudio Pizarro's days at the club are numbered. That is hardly a revelation given that each spent last season on loan away from Stamford Bridge. Yet the Chilean's impact was negligible and the Ukrainian, despite a new haircut and a public insistence that he would like to stay, appears to be on the fringes. Ancelotti confirmed he did not anticipate the man he rated so highly at Milan remaining beyond the 31 August transfer cut-off. Others, most probably the youngsters Michael Mancienne, Sam Hutchinson, Franco di Santo and Scott Sinclair, are expected to move elsewhere on loan in search of first-team experience.

6) Ancelotti's English is improving though it remains a work in progress. He appeared exhausted and frustrated at times at his inability to explain himself fully, which is utterly understandable, though good humour generally shone through and his assistant Bruno Demichelis is providing invaluable assistance as a makeshift interpreter. There appears to be a real determination about Ancelotti to expand his vocabulary, however, and first impressions suggest he will not fall into the same trap as Scolari, whose English rather stagnated once competitive games came thick and fast.

7) The United States appears to have taken to Chelsea. This was the Premier League club's fourth visit to the country in five years for pre-season and, at last, they have made their mark. Chelsea shirts littered the considerable crowds in Seattle, Pasadena, Baltimore and Arlington where the team played. The gates were magnificent. Some 81,224 people attended the 2–0 victory over Inter, and 71,203 the tight 2–1 win over Milan in Baltimore. The Cowboys stadium was heaving last night with just over 57,000 watching on despite Mexico having played the United States a few hours earlier in the final of the Gold Cup. When the Chelsea players appeared on the astonishing 160ft by 72ft high-definition LED television screen suspended above the playing surface of this arena – the largest screen of its type with 30,000,000 light bulbs and built at a cost of £25m – prior to kick-off, even the Hispanics in the crowd bellowed their appreciation. This club is making an impression in these parts.

Given the crammed schedule and draining west-east-west travelling, that represents a fine use of two weeks away. Chelsea will be buoyed that John Terry has committed his future to the club despite Manchester City's attempts to lure him away, and that has added gloss to their pre-season, but they gleaned far more from the brief spell in the US. The players expect to be back next summer, most likely to defend the trophy won courtesy of Di Santo and Florent Malouda's late goals. They should receive a hospitable welcome.


A pretty good article spoiled somewhat by the fact that AFAIK Claudio Pizarro is in fact from Peru not Chile!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: longball on July 27, 2009, 04:09:23 PM
Salomon Kalou to the Gooners- if you can believe the papers  :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 31, 2009, 10:49:40 AM
A bad day for the drug takers, a good day for football. That's a few pound in the kitty.

http://www.tas-cas.org/d2wfiles/document/3433/5048/0/Press%20release%202009.07.31.pdf (http://www.tas-cas.org/d2wfiles/document/3433/5048/0/Press%20release%202009.07.31.pdf)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 01, 2009, 03:04:14 PM
Chelsea just starting against Reading. Not all sure about Carlo's favoured diamond...

                                     Cech

Ivanovic                  JT                Carvalho                          Ashley


                                    Mikel

                     Lamps                  Essien

                                    Deco


                               Nic      Drogs
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 01, 2009, 04:26:24 PM
2-0 down at the minute.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: gawa316 on August 01, 2009, 04:57:42 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on August 01, 2009, 04:26:24 PM
2-0 down at the minute.

Finished 2 all
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 01, 2009, 06:30:49 PM
Very poor. Dominated but the lack of imagination, and flair harked back to last season. We need wide players on the field and in position Carlo!

Chelsea's goals were in the 89th and 91st minute. Kalooouuu and an og!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 01, 2009, 10:42:53 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on July 27, 2009, 01:39:39 PM
Quote from: Hound on July 27, 2009, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 26, 2009, 05:24:58 PM
Terry tells the Arabs where to go. Legend.
Only after he squeezed "the club he loves" for every last penny he could.


Well if he was only interested in money he would have went to City where he would have doubled his wages.
Well said.com And won nothing after the Arabs go bankrupt in 3 years with a 15 million a week wage bill...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 02, 2009, 02:58:20 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 27, 2009, 01:57:40 PM
Quote from: Hound on July 27, 2009, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 26, 2009, 05:24:58 PM
Terry tells the Arabs where to go. Legend.
Only after he squeezed "the club he loves" for every last penny he could.


Source?

The Guardian's take on Mr Chelsea is good for a giggle.

QuoteLet's take John Terry's word for it. Let's assume he was telling the truth when he said that "I am totally committed to Chelsea and always have been". When all's said and done, only the archest of cynics would doubt the sincerity of a top-flight professional footballer issuing the written equivalent of a crest-kiss-with-clenched-fist, because anyone with a passing interest in the game knows it is not populated by players, or indeed managers, with form in the field of dishonest declarations of loyalty.

Some have questioned the bona fides of Terry's oath of allegiance on the grounds that it was pledged after five weeks of complete radio silence, a period long enough to prompt acerbic suggestions that "Mr Chelsea" was displaying a certain amount of contempt for his club and those who support it. If he knew Chelsea's supporters were on tenterhooks waiting to hear his plans and knew there was no question of him leaving Stamford Bridge, why did he wait for more than a month to offer any kind of reassurance?

While it's possible he was suffering from a particularly nasty throat infection that had rendered him speechless, it seems obvious that Terry is so committed to Chelsea that he was prepared to waste the best part of his summer holidays with spiral notebook in hand, sitting in an armchair surrounded by scrunched-up balls of paper, sucking furiously on his pencil as he struggled to find the exact words required to describe the selfless loyalty we now know he feels towards his club and its fans.

These same fans should be wary, however, as Terry's statement reveals him to be a man so lacking in ambition that he was unprepared to even consider the prospect of signing for a club whose financial clout and relentless, if ultimately unsuccessful, pursuit of the world's best players and John Terry has been well documented. Let's face it, a player so reluctant to even think about leaving his comfort zone is unlikely to stray out of position to cover for Jose Bosingwa or Ashley Cole the next time either full-back is left horribly exposed.

Chelsea supporters could also be forgiven for questioning the smarts of a player whose steadfast refusal to use the interest of a club reportedly prepared to double his wages as leverage with which to secure a new, improved contract from his current employers suggests he may well be several sandwiches short of a picnic. Equally incomprehensible lapses of judgment on the field of play during the coming months would almost certainly scupper his team's chances of bagging a major trophy.

These are interesting times for Chelsea fans, who will be preparing for the season ahead with some trepidation now that their club's captain, whose carefully considered utterances have revealed him to be something of an ambition-free dolt. The scarcely plausible alternative, that he's yet another calculating mercenary who held his club to ransom before fobbing off its fans with a transparent and misleading sop, is unlikely to reassure them.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 09, 2009, 09:52:12 PM
Shock. Horror. Chelsea win a penalty shoot out!!

Nice to get a second bit of silverware in the pocket early in the season. Would it be ok to start talking about winning six, like we had to endure last season? Thought not.

Decent enough game today, with both teams probably operating at 80% pace. United controlled most of the first half, with Chelsea's diamond badly exposed. I felt that United exploited the lack of protection in front of Cole, and especially Ivanovic. It was no coincidence that Bosingwa's introduction saw Chelsea improve.
The other main weakness in the diamond, as well as lack of width, is the congestion in midfield. The net result was Lampard being given no room whatsoever at the tip of the diamond. Indeed he may be better suited in the middle two, and arriving from deeper.
Someone said Cech was poor on the United thread. I thought, bar Nani's goal, he was excellent. A couple of decent stops, and controlled his box.

As for the United. Foster, who I'd have rated, looked awful. His kicking was poor, he looked nervous, and his handling questionable.

The controversy. There is no doubt that Ballack fouled Evra, and should've been at least booked. However Rooney was given a good advantage, and the ref could not pull it back, nor stop play when the move had broke down.
In addition Rooney's late leveller was marginally offside too. However ref's are instructed to give benefit of doubt to the attacker, and this is what he did. Hopefully we will see this consistantly applied this season. Won't we?


The shadow boxing's over...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: DennistheMenace on August 09, 2009, 09:54:14 PM
Wasn't impressed with this diamond formation but a decent game alright.

Never rated Foster myself.

Meaningless game in the grand scale of things.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 09, 2009, 11:33:29 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 09, 2009, 09:52:12 PM
Shock. Horror. Chelsea win a penalty shoot out!!

Nice to get a second bit of silverware in the pocket early in the season. Would it be ok to start talking about winning six, like we had to endure last season? Thought not.

Decent enough game today, with both teams probably operating at 80% pace. United controlled most of the first half, with Chelsea's diamond badly exposed. I felt that United exploited the lack of protection in front of Cole, and especially Ivanovic. It was no coincidence that Bosingwa's introduction saw Chelsea improve.
The other main weakness in the diamond, as well as lack of width, is the congestion in midfield. The net result was Lampard being given no room whatsoever at the tip of the diamond. Indeed he may be better suited in the middle two, and arriving from deeper.
Someone said Cech was poor on the United thread. I thought, bar Nani's goal, he was excellent. A couple of decent stops, and controlled his box.

As for the United. Foster, who I'd have rated, looked awful. His kicking was poor, he looked nervous, and his handling questionable.

The controversy. There is no doubt that Ballack fouled Evra, and should've been at least booked. However Rooney was given a good advantage, and the ref could not pull it back, nor stop play when the move had broke down.
In addition Rooney's late leveller was marginally offside too. However ref's are instructed to give benefit of doubt to the attacker, and this is what he did. Hopefully we will see this consistantly applied this season. Won't we?


The shadow boxing's over...
Despite all that happened, all the controversyand the game today the fact of the matter is we were simply better today. I was surprised when i saw carvalho's name on the team sheet but he played well, however i still think alex is overall a better player. Drogba was quietly the best player on the pitch but it was clear lampards position was unfamiliar and mikel looked out of place. Saying that its advantage chelsea, as they were clearly better and, once ancelloti sorts out this diamond, we have aa double (treble!) winning team.
United, on the other hand looked sluggish after their initial spell of dominance until their hero for so many years, ryan giggs came along. Valencia was awful looked like he didn't want to be there and Nani wants to be Ronaldo, but has progressed as much as sir alex had planned, for him to be an insurance policy.
Overall this is a clear indication that chelsea are starting again what mourinho left behind. 

Chelsea for the premiership!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: DennistheMenace on August 10, 2009, 12:01:57 AM
Yeah advantage Chelsea after winning the Charity Shield  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 10, 2009, 12:16:59 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 10, 2009, 12:01:57 AM
Yeah advantage Chelsea after winning the Charity Shield  ::)
Advantage chelsea by outplaying united you twat
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 10, 2009, 10:39:25 AM
It was a foul by Ballack...he didn't "elbow" him...yellow card at max...since Utd were in possession the ref played an advantage (Utd didn't put the ball out)...after Utd lost possession as they say in rugby "advantage over"...perfectly good goal.

Entertaining enough game without the full intensity of a "competitive" match

Chelsea's new shirt looks good Utd's is awful

Has anyone seen a worse penalty than Evra's?

How long will VdSar be outfor?...Foster is a liability
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: DennistheMenace on August 10, 2009, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 10, 2009, 12:16:59 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 10, 2009, 12:01:57 AM
Yeah advantage Chelsea after winning the Charity Shield  ::)
Advantage chelsea by outplaying united you t**t

Anyone with the slightest bit of knowledge of football knows this in the grand scale of things that game means fck all, obviously you don't fall into that category.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: 689908 on August 10, 2009, 03:39:55 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 10, 2009, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 10, 2009, 12:16:59 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 10, 2009, 12:01:57 AM
Yeah advantage Chelsea after winning the Charity Shield  ::)
Advantage chelsea by outplaying united you t**t

Anyone with the slightest bit of knowledge of football knows this in the grand scale of things that game means fck all, obviously you don't fall into that category.

Also, Chelsea didn't 'outplay' United
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 10, 2009, 04:25:27 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 10, 2009, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 10, 2009, 12:16:59 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 10, 2009, 12:01:57 AM
Yeah advantage Chelsea after winning the Charity Shield  ::)
Advantage chelsea by outplaying united you t**t

Anyone with the slightest bit of knowledge of football knows this in the grand scale of things that game means fck all, obviously you don't fall into that category.
Jesus chelsea showed united whos the bettee team, and 689908, yes they did they were clearly better.
I never said the community shield means anything, but beating united means a whole fcking lot.
Chelsea get the psychological edge because sir alex was fuming that the ref didn't favour them meaning its wide open and chelsea's to lose....
UNITED ARE FCKING NOTHING WITHOUT CRISTIANO RONALDO!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: 689908 on August 10, 2009, 04:35:05 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 10, 2009, 04:25:27 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 10, 2009, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 10, 2009, 12:16:59 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 10, 2009, 12:01:57 AM
Yeah advantage Chelsea after winning the Charity Shield  ::)
Advantage chelsea by outplaying united you t**t

Anyone with the slightest bit of knowledge of football knows this in the grand scale of things that game means fck all, obviously you don't fall into that category.
Jesus chelsea showed united whos the bettee team, and 689908, yes they did they were clearly better.
I never said the community shield means anything, but beating united means a whole fcking lot.
Chelsea get the psychological edge because sir alex was fuming that the ref didn't favour them meaning its wide open and chelsea's to lose....
UNITED ARE FCKING NOTHING WITHOUT CRISTIANO RONALDO!

:D A little underlying anger problem?? :D

[/quote]Chelsea get the psychological edge because sir alex was fuming that the ref didn't favour them meaning its wide open and chelsea's to lose....[/quote]

Brilliant :D:D:D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 10, 2009, 04:39:03 PM
Quote from: 689908 on August 10, 2009, 04:35:05 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 10, 2009, 04:25:27 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 10, 2009, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 10, 2009, 12:16:59 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 10, 2009, 12:01:57 AM
Yeah advantage Chelsea after winning the Charity Shield  ::)
Advantage chelsea by outplaying united you t**t

Anyone with the slightest bit of knowledge of football knows this in the grand scale of things that game means fck all, obviously you don't fall into that category.
Jesus chelsea showed united whos the bettee team, and 689908, yes they did they were clearly better.
I never said the community shield means anything, but beating united means a whole fcking lot.
Chelsea get the psychological edge because sir alex was fuming that the ref didn't favour them meaning its wide open and chelsea's to lose....
UNITED ARE FCKING NOTHING WITHOUT CRISTIANO RONALDO!

:D A little underlying anger problem?? :D

Chelsea get the psychological edge because sir alex was fuming that the ref didn't favour them meaning its wide open and chelsea's to lose....[/quote]

Brilliant :D:D:D
[/quote] Ah would ya shut it and take off the red tinted sunglasses
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: 689908 on August 10, 2009, 04:41:29 PM
You act like a child, it's highly entertaining.

How on earth is it Chelsea's to lose?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Hound on August 10, 2009, 04:48:44 PM
Quote from: 689908 on August 10, 2009, 04:41:29 PM
You act like a child, it's highly entertaining.

How on earth is it Chelsea's to lose?
Personally I think Chelsea have the best first 11. But it will depend on the manager finding the right combination, not being afraid to drop egos and keeping Drogba motivated.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: DennistheMenace on August 10, 2009, 04:50:22 PM
It all depends on Ancelotti, I have my reservations about him but Chelsea do look strong.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: 689908 on August 10, 2009, 04:54:22 PM
I'm not so sure about Chelsea having the best first 11.  In any case it's more about the squad now, since a first choice 11 will normally depend on the opposition.  But I do think Chelsea have a formidable (if a little unbalanced) squad.  Ancelotti seems intent on playing the diamond system, and I'm not sure whether that would be the best to use.  When Joe Cole comes back I just can't see him getting too many games, which would be a real shame because I've always thought he was a very good player.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: DennistheMenace on August 10, 2009, 04:58:08 PM
You talk about a squad and that is something that will hinder Liverpool this season (again)

If Torres gets injured that leaves Kuyt, Babel, Ngog, hardly inspiring.

If Gerrard gets injured they are in real shit, Lucas is decent cover but no more and the Italian will need time to adapt.

Really thought Rafa would have spent a bit more to strengthen his squad.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: 689908 on August 10, 2009, 05:03:08 PM
In fairness I think Benayoun and Aurelio would walk into most other sides in the league and are excellent backup.  But I think you're right, they have a serious lack of depth.  Chelsea will have Alex/Terry, Ivanovich/Bosingwa, Ballack/Deco, Cole, Malouda all on the bench.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: DennistheMenace on August 10, 2009, 05:51:52 PM
On another note, I think the forward partnership of Drogba and Anelka (if they manage to stay injury free) will be very prolific.

Can see Drogba having a big season this year and if he is in the right frame of mind then he will cause problems for every defence.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 14, 2009, 04:52:33 PM
Here we go again...

Another season. Another manager! Hopefully Carlo is the man to steady the ship and bring some stability to the club. To be fair I am a wee bit more optimistic today than I was a few weeks back. The transfer dealings have been moderately successful, with no departures- bar Di Santo, Mancienne, Stoch etc getting good loan deals, and minimal acquisitions. In addition his ability and efforts to pick up the lingo can but help.
I am also very impressed by the musings of the sport's pyschologist that he has brought over with him.

I'd predict he'll start the diamond tomorrow with the XI almost picking itself, and it's imperative that the full backs push on.

                           Cech

Bosingwa      Terry       Alex/ Carvalho     Ashley Cole


                        Mikel

            Ballack/ Malouda   Essien

                    Super Frank

Drogba                               Anelka


I predict that we will take our time to break Hull down but should emerge winners by two or three to nil, and Stephen Hunt to get a raptuous reception.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 14, 2009, 05:28:36 PM
Big blow for Chelsea in that Yuri Zhirkov faces a lengthy spell on the sidelines. Not sure when he will be able to train again with this injury. Not a good start for him at a new club and new way of life etc. Was looking forward to see him play in the premiership this year.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 14, 2009, 10:49:30 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on August 14, 2009, 05:28:36 PM
Big blow for Chelsea in that Yuri Zhirkov faces a lengthy spell on the sidelines. Not sure when he will be able to train again with this injury. Not a good start for him at a new club and new way of life etc. Was looking forward to see him play in the premiership this year.

I think he's only out a week or so Archie.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 14, 2009, 10:55:16 PM
Really? Read that they wernt sure what was going on and he was having a lot of pain in the knee while running.

Also, was reading on the City forums (not the best source I know but) that Sturridge has threw the toys out of the pram already and is not a happy camper.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 15, 2009, 12:43:58 AM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on August 14, 2009, 10:55:16 PM
Really? Read that they wernt sure what was going on and he was having a lot of pain in the knee while running.

Also, was reading on the City forums (not the best source I know but) that Sturridge has threw the toys out of the pram already and is not a happy camper.

Nothing on the Chelsea forums about any of those stories to be honest.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2009, 12:50:11 AM
How certain is it that Boswinga will be first choice right back Norf? (ie should I consider a late sub for Ivanovic on my fantasy dream team?!)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 15, 2009, 11:44:32 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2009, 12:50:11 AM
How certain is it that Boswinga will be first choice right back Norf? (ie should I consider a late sub for Ivanovic on my fantasy dream team?!)


It's very difficult to know. Ivanovic was exposed a bit by the Mancs last week, so I'd say José has the shirt at present. For the diamond to function you need a RB that knows how to attack (at the right time) and defend. Bosingwa will be better than that than Ivanfield.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 15, 2009, 12:10:56 PM
Cech
Cole
Terry
Carvalho
Bosingwa

Mikel

Malouda
Essien

Lampard

Drogba
Anelka

Subs: Deco, Turnball, Hutchinson, Kaloooouu, Sturridge, Ivanfield, Ballack.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Lothos on August 15, 2009, 01:19:07 PM
1 nil to Hull
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Galwaybhoy on August 15, 2009, 01:20:37 PM
1-0 Hull  :o

Oh no
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Lothos on August 15, 2009, 01:27:36 PM
1 each
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Galwaybhoy on August 15, 2009, 01:28:36 PM
Yes.  Come on Chelsea
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2009, 01:42:10 PM
Nice to see Stephen Hunt giving the Chelsea crowd something to boo about. That flag proclaiming that "Money can't buy everything" was a bit pathetic given Chelsea's recent history.

You'd have to expect Shelsea to go on to win, superb free kick from Drogba. Hull goalie looking shaky from backpasses.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 15, 2009, 02:41:54 PM
Some finish from Drogba there. Not sure if he meant it or not.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Galwaybhoy on August 15, 2009, 02:42:27 PM
2-1.

Never thought I'd be thankful to see Drogba score.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Carmen Stateside on August 15, 2009, 02:42:36 PM
Drogba with what should be the winner.  First look thought he meant it!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 15, 2009, 03:51:51 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2009, 01:42:10 PM
Nice to see Stephen Hunt giving the Chelsea crowd something to boo about. That flag proclaiming that "Money can't buy everything" was a bit pathetic given Chelsea's recent history.

You'd have to expect Shelsea to go on to win, superb free kick from Drogba. Hull goalie looking shaky from backpasses.

Never hear of irony TAM?

Anyhow. Predictable. This game mirrored many of our home game's from last season where we absoloutely batter teams but struggle to score. I think we had 30 (!!) shots at goal today, and we end up relying on a late, late one from Drogba. The problem is- as I have been harping about- lack of width. Hull were able to keep their full backs tightly tucked on, and squeezed the space. It's no coincidence that Lampard was non-existant. Anyhow it's good to see the never-say-die spirit is still there, and Chelsea kept at it. Two points up on last year's fixture, so that's a start.


As for Hunt. The wee s***e could've and should've been sent off today. His first minute tackle on Lampard was very poor, and should've been a yellow card. He continued to throw himself about, and twice the ref ticked him for diving. Refs need to start showing yellow cards for diving, and that'll help tidy it up.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: stiffler on August 15, 2009, 04:11:07 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on August 15, 2009, 02:41:54 PM
Some finish from Drogba there. Not sure if he meant it or not.

he said afterwards it was a cross
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 15, 2009, 04:24:35 PM
Heard that, suprised that he admitted it was a cross. Andy Gray was heaping praise on him saying he meant it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 15, 2009, 04:26:01 PM
Quote from: stiffler on August 15, 2009, 04:11:07 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on August 15, 2009, 02:41:54 PM
Some finish from Drogba there. Not sure if he meant it or not.

he said afterwards it was a cross
It dosen't matter what it is now, we got 2 points from it...

Generally encouragng apart from the fact that we just can't score. The ball seemed to magnetically attach to the keepers hands and we need to show some drive and create chances, which could push us over the line in the Premiership race.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2009, 05:05:38 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 15, 2009, 03:51:51 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2009, 01:42:10 PM
Nice to see Stephen Hunt giving the Chelsea crowd something to boo about. That flag proclaiming that "Money can't buy everything" was a bit pathetic given Chelsea's recent history.

You'd have to expect Shelsea to go on to win, superb free kick from Drogba. Hull goalie looking shaky from backpasses.

Never hear of irony TAM?

Anyhow. Predictable. This game mirrored many of our home game's from last season where we absoloutely batter teams but struggle to score. I think we had 30 (!!) shots at goal today, and we end up relying on a late, late one from Drogba. The problem is- as I have been harping about- lack of width. Hull were able to keep their full backs tightly tucked on, and squeezed the space. It's no coincidence that Lampard was non-existant. Anyhow it's good to see the never-say-die spirit is still there, and Chelsea kept at it. Two points up on last year's fixture, so that's a start.


As for Hunt. The wee s***e could've and should've been sent off today. His first minute tackle on Lampard was very poor, and should've been a yellow card. He continued to throw himself about, and twice the ref ticked him for diving. Refs need to start showing yellow cards for diving, and that'll help tidy it up.

I sincerely doubt it was meant as ironic.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 18, 2009, 03:10:57 PM
Pizarro goes to Bremen for £5 million.
Nemanja Matic arrives from Kosice for £1.5 million.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 18, 2009, 03:38:40 PM
Good business to get £5 million for Pizarro. He came on a free didn't he?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 18, 2009, 03:43:48 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on August 18, 2009, 03:38:40 PM
Good business to get £5 million for Pizarro. He came on a free didn't he?

He did. When you consider his scoring record in the Bundesliga last year, you could argue that if another club were selling him they could've demanded more.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 18, 2009, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 18, 2009, 03:43:48 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on August 18, 2009, 03:38:40 PM
Good business to get £5 million for Pizarro. He came on a free didn't he?

He did. When you consider his scoring record in the Bundesliga last year, you could argue that if another club were selling him they could've demanded more.
Why is it that quality strikers just give up once they play for Chelsea? Is it the money?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 18, 2009, 04:31:45 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 18, 2009, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 18, 2009, 03:43:48 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on August 18, 2009, 03:38:40 PM
Good business to get £5 million for Pizarro. He came on a free didn't he?

He did. When you consider his scoring record in the Bundesliga last year, you could argue that if another club were selling him they could've demanded more.
Why is it that quality strikers just give up once they play for Chelsea? Is it the money?

Chelsea definately can be a grave yard for strikers, even harking back to Robert Fleck, and Chris Sutton, and onto Shevchenko and Kezman. I think in recent times a lot of it is due to Chelsea's success. Six or seven years back teams would've played Chelsea with hopes of drawing if not winning. However know most teams play Chelsea with ambitions of a point. With this mindset in play teams are more negative, and will sit deeper. The net result being that space is less available for attackers to play in. Some it suits, others it doesn't.

I am not sure Pizarro got a decent crack. Two goals in 27 games suggest he did, but a lot of them would've been as sub. Interesting that he had a good record when coming to Chelsea, and an exceptional one the season (2008-2009)he was on loan.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 18, 2009, 08:22:22 PM
Darren Bent 1-0 Sunderland.....


AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 18, 2009, 10:14:40 PM
Good result. Never seen it so can't comment.

Hopefully continue the solid start at the neighbours on Sunday. I won't fekcing see that one too!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on August 19, 2009, 03:46:05 PM
Just for you Norf

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/chelsea/article6796018.ece

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 19, 2009, 03:49:18 PM
Arjen Robben, Desailly and Jimmy Greaves should be top 10.

My Top 3.

Chopper Harris
Desailly
Zola
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 19, 2009, 03:54:54 PM
Just seen the Chlsea goals from last night. Deco's goal was great, not so much for the finish, but for the build up. Chelsea knocked it about at will, created space and Deco struck a sweet shot to the net. Chelsea have a serious team, probably strongest squad in the premiership and my tip to win the league.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 19, 2009, 04:27:32 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 19, 2009, 03:46:05 PM
Just for you Norf

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/chelsea/article6796018.ece

Good man Minder. That's work tonight sorted out.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Carmen Stateside on August 29, 2009, 02:07:06 PM
Chelsea looking very impressive.  Poor Burnley have just been outclassed.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Doogie Browser on September 03, 2009, 02:21:16 PM
Chelsea banned from any signings for next two transfer windows  :o

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8236187.stm
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 03, 2009, 02:27:47 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on September 03, 2009, 02:21:16 PM
Chelsea banned from any signings for next two transfer windows  :o

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8236187.stm

Probably reduced to a fine on appeal once a few brown envelopes are sent.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on September 03, 2009, 02:58:19 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on September 03, 2009, 02:21:16 PM
Chelsea banned from any signings for next two transfer windows  :o

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8236187.stm

Like the Eduardo ban this is a good thing...as long as FIFA is consistent and bans all clubs who do likewise
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on September 03, 2009, 03:23:45 PM
Seems like this has happened before with Roma getting the same ban as Chelsea in 2004...reduced to one transfer window on appeal...and FC Sion of Switzerland...their ban suspended while they appeal to the CAS.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 03, 2009, 03:43:45 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on September 03, 2009, 03:23:45 PM
Seems like this has happened before with Roma getting the same ban as Chelsea in 2004...reduced to one transfer window on appeal...and FC Sion of Switzerland...their ban suspended while they appeal to the CAS.

There'll be some crying over "anti-Chelsea" discrimination with this one!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 03, 2009, 05:08:56 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on September 03, 2009, 02:58:19 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on September 03, 2009, 02:21:16 PM
Chelsea banned from any signings for next two transfer windows  :o

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8236187.stm

Like the Eduardo ban this is a good thing...as long as FIFA is consistent and bans all clubs who do likewise

Like when CSKA Sofia were banned from competing in the 08-09 Champions League due to unpaid debt, yet the current English teams in the Champions League this season has a combined debt of £2 billion and not banned from competiting! This was UEFA's decision but they are all the same anyway, and i'm suprised Chelsea got hit with this ban when you consider other cases such as Jon Obi Mikel, Federico Macheda, Cesc Fabregas, Jermaine Pennant and countless others and nothing done about them.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: thebigfella on September 03, 2009, 05:46:59 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on September 03, 2009, 05:08:56 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on September 03, 2009, 02:58:19 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on September 03, 2009, 02:21:16 PM
Chelsea banned from any signings for next two transfer windows  :o

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8236187.stm

Like the Eduardo ban this is a good thing...as long as FIFA is consistent and bans all clubs who do likewise

Like when CSKA Sofia were banned from competing in the 08-09 Champions League due to unpaid debt, yet the current English teams in the Champions League this season has a combined debt of £2 billion and not banned from competiting! This was UEFA's decision but they are all the same anyway, and i'm suprised Chelsea got hit with this ban when you consider other cases such as Jon Obi Mikel, Federico Macheda, Cesc Fabregas, Jermaine Pennant and countless others and nothing done about them.

There is a slight difference between owing money and managing that debt, as opposed to not repaying a debt due to not being able to or refusing to.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 03, 2009, 05:51:21 PM
Debt is still debt! Platini was mouthing off a few weeks ago about City saying fair enough if they want to spend this money, but if it puts them in debt then they shouldn't be able to compete in the top competitions, while at the same time heaping praise on Abramovich. City don't have any debt, all this spending was a gift from the new owner to try and get them competing with the big 4, whereas the big 4 has bucketloads of debt, yet don't get criticised.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: thebigfella on September 03, 2009, 06:09:49 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on September 03, 2009, 05:51:21 PM
Debt is still debt! Platini was mouthing off a few weeks ago about City saying fair enough if they want to spend this money, but if it puts them in debt then they shouldn't be able to compete in the top competitions, while at the same time heaping praise on Abramovich. City don't have any debt, all this spending was a gift from the new owner to try and get them competing with the big 4, whereas the big 4 has bucketloads of debt, yet don't get criticised.

Nothing wrong with being in debt as long as you can manage it correctly. It's when you cannot manage it, as the example you gave with CSKA Sofia, it becomes an issue. The scenarios you described with CSKA Sofia and English club debt are completely different.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Main Street on September 03, 2009, 06:20:00 PM
Archie, I don't think you have understood what went between Platini and Abrahamovitch.
Platini has praised Abramovich for his support for the Uefa proposals, not for Chelsea's accounting practices.

also
afaiu, under the new proposals, gifts will not count as income.




Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 04, 2009, 04:22:27 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on September 03, 2009, 02:58:19 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on September 03, 2009, 02:21:16 PM
Chelsea banned from any signings for next two transfer windows  :o

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8236187.stm

Like the Eduardo ban this is a good thing...as long as FIFA is consistent and bans all clubs who do likewise

Totally agree. I am not very well versed in all the ins and outs of the Kakuta deal but from what I gather he signed a pre-contract at Lens when he was 14/15 committing him to sign a full contract when he was 16.

It was the pre contract that was breeched.

However- and I hasten to add I know little about employment laws- is a contract signed by a 14/15yo leagally binding?

I always thought that the contracts between minors and others could be signed, however they are only there to protect the interest of the minor, and a court will rule in favour of the minor in all matters regarding.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on September 04, 2009, 09:35:13 AM
Interesting point here...if it is legally and morally wrong to induce a 16 year old to break a contract (and it is) what does FIFA have to say about the practice of offering legally binding contracts to 14 year old "players" in the first place?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 12, 2009, 10:05:47 AM
Have kind of shunned this thread so far to date this season from an on field persepctive at least. Just too busy!

Stoke away is always one of them games where teams can come a cropper, so not 100% confident on today. However Ancellotti has the Blues playing much, much better than I hoped, although you could replace Ancellotti's name with Scolari's and roll the clock back 12 months.

However I have this belief that CA has more about him. He looks confident, and assured in the press conferances, and there is more of a belief in the players too.

He has Chelsea playing a system that's hard to nail down. Some say it's a diamond, some a Christmas tree, some people think it's a fluid 4-4-2. Whatever it is it's working. The key to it being the adventure of the full backs (That sounds like a Bond film), and Cole and Bosingwa are key.
The test will be when Chelsea play a team that causes our full backs to be less adventurous. Who supplies the width then?

Anyhow prediction for today... Stoke 0 Chelsea 2 (Lampard and Anelka).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: stiffler on September 12, 2009, 10:24:01 AM
lampard, gerarrd and rooney all to score today, 16/1
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 12, 2009, 10:35:37 AM
Quote from: stiffler on September 12, 2009, 10:24:01 AM
lampard, gerarrd and rooney all to score today, 16/1

I seen that 'Three lions' bet. It's not a bad en but I couldn't cheer a Rooney goal today!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Galwaybhoy on September 12, 2009, 11:52:49 AM
Quote from: stiffler on September 12, 2009, 10:24:01 AM
lampard, gerarrd and rooney all to score today, 16/1

Thats a nice little bet tbh. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: stiffler on September 12, 2009, 01:19:04 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on September 12, 2009, 10:35:37 AM
Quote from: stiffler on September 12, 2009, 10:24:01 AM
lampard, gerarrd and rooney all to score today, 16/1

I seen that 'Three lions' bet. It's not a bad en but I couldn't cheer a Rooney goal today!

bet with the head!!

if rooney scores a consoliation goal in the last minute i would be happy enough!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 15, 2009, 10:27:21 AM
Back to the Champions League tonight. We ended last season with Chelsea fans whining of a UEFA conspiracy, Platini, and Henning Bo.

So what happened Tom Henning? Well.... he's the ref in the Juve game tonight. That's Juve the darling club of Platini! You couldn't make it up!

Anyhow... good to see three youngsters in the squad tonight, Borini, Brauma, and Hutchinson.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 15, 2009, 07:13:08 PM
Welcome back Joe Cole!

Cech, Ivanfield, Terry, Carvalho, Ash Cole, Ballack, Essien, Lamps, Malouda, Kalou, Anelka.

Subs: Turnball, Hutchinson, Bruma, Belletti, Joe Cole, Borini, Sturrudge.

Good see the youf getting some bench experience.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on September 15, 2009, 07:16:36 PM
Pack a divers.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on September 15, 2009, 09:59:01 PM
Hard to raise any enthusiasm for this stage of the CL.  Pity they didn't show the Madrid Zurich game :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 15, 2009, 10:37:02 PM
Very little to say bar rubbish performance, rubbish. Porto deserved a point.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: orangeman on September 16, 2009, 01:35:36 PM
Sacked ??????



Chelsea chief Kenyon leaves role 
 
Chelsea have announced that Peter Kenyon will be leaving his full-time role at the end of October.

Kenyon, who joined Chelsea from Manchester United in 2003, will continue at Stamford Bridge as a non-executive director.

"I have been in football for 15 years and I can say with great certainty and pleasure the experience at Chelsea is one of the best I have had," he said.


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ludermor on September 16, 2009, 01:37:47 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kenyon
Somebody ws quick off the mark!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: An Fear Rua on September 16, 2009, 03:18:02 PM
Heard he is off to the BooCamp. Having had dealings with him personally, believe me he is no loss.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on September 16, 2009, 04:04:57 PM
On the plus side he was instrumental in bringing the Special One to Chelsea on the minus side he came across as a bit of a twat
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 16, 2009, 08:30:05 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on September 16, 2009, 04:04:57 PM
On the plus side he was instrumental in bringing the Special One to Chelsea on the minus side he came across as a bit of a t**t

Agreed. His PR was very poor, but too many chiefs at the Bridge didn't help. With ROman, Buck, Tenebaum, Arshavin etc.

After José the positives of PK was bringing the old badge, and the set up and care given now to ex players with functions, events to pay medical expenses etc.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC - The Ron Gourlay Era
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on September 17, 2009, 02:03:36 PM
From the Guardian...I thought Simon Greenberg was a shoo-in here but...another ex MU man!

Chelsea have named Ron Gourlay as their new chief executive following the departure of Peter Kenyon. Gourlay was previously the club's chief operating officer.

"It is a huge honour to be offered the chance to lead Chelsea," said Gourlay. "We have a fantastic team both on and off the field and those teams can move us on to even greater success in the future. To be responsible for that is a fantastic challenge and I will be giving it my total commitment, drive and energy.

"All successful clubs strike the balance between the footballing and commercial sides and my role is to ensure this happens as it is a critical part of our strategy moving forward."

Gourlay has been at Chelsea for five years and has previously had senior roles at Manchester United and Umbro. Frank Arnesen was thought to be in the frame to replace Kenyon, but Chelsea's chairman, Bruce Buck, claimed Gourlay was "the outstanding candidate for the job".

"It was not necessary to look outside as we had someone with all the necessary attributes inside which was important as it ensures continuity and a smooth transition," added Buck. "He has the total support of the board and Roman [Abramovich] and both the football and business elements of the club will report to him.

"Ron has been a central figure in the commercial success of Chelsea in recent years and he has excellent operational experience and is thoroughly respected across the football side. We are absolutely confident that he can now take us forward into the next stage of our development as a club and business."
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 17, 2009, 11:05:57 PM
Inter Zapresic claim they have come to an agreement with Chelsea which will see young goalkeeper Matej Delac move to Stamford Bridge in 2011. 

The Croatian club released a statement on their website, www.inter.hr, in which they confirmed Delac will remain with them for the next two years, during which period Chelsea will pay his wages.

Zapresic also revealed that Delac, who will travel to London whenever possible to train with the Blues, will then be under contract with the Barclays Premier League side for five years.   
Sporting director Branko Laljak said: 'This deal will save us from bankruptcy.   

'We are proud to have sold one of our players to one of the strongest clubs in the world.'   

The keeper, who turned 17 in August, broke the record for the youngest Croatian player ever called up for international duty when Slaven Bilic named him in his squad to face England earlier this month.   

Chelsea have banned by FIFA from registering any new players in the next two registration periods after they were found guilty of inducing French teenager Gael Kakuta to breach his contract with Lens.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 20, 2009, 01:24:07 AM
A bigger test than Chelsea have had to date from the Spurs tomorrow I'd guess. In previous games Chelsea have been able to compensate for lack of width by allowing Cole and Bosingwa to bomb forward.
However with Lennon, and more of an attacking threat from Defoe etc, Ancellotti might need to rethink. Interesting to see how he handles it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 20, 2009, 10:07:41 AM
Spurs defensive problems, in that they can't defend, will cost them today. Look at the way Utd overturned them last week and they wernt firing on all cylinders yet. Could be a high scoring game but expect Chelsea to win.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 20, 2009, 03:14:26 PM
Good news from Holland.

Miroslav Stoch (Who is having a stormer season to date) has just scored his second for Twente.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 20, 2009, 03:40:21 PM
Chelsea line up as expected. Borini on the bench in front of Sturridge is a surprise one.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: anportmorforjfc on September 20, 2009, 03:43:11 PM
Suprised to see Keane start ahead of Crouch.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 20, 2009, 10:59:09 PM
Six out of six for Ancellotti, and I think that makes it something like ten wins on the bounce for Chelsea in the league.

Funny performance today, and my first thought after the final whistle today was that Spurs might've deserved a point. However when I think about Chelsea probably played better than I thought.
People will look to Keane's shout for a penalty, but Chelsea had shouts of their own with the push on Ballack, and a Spurs hand ball. To be honest Webb got so many things wrong it was a joke. Spurs too being unlucky with injuries to King and Bassong, and Chelsea worringly losing Drogba.

Best for Chelsea > Drogba, and the superb Ashley Cole.

Onwards and upwards for the Chels...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 21, 2009, 04:47:44 PM
After the rivals on Sunday, it's the bitterest of rivals on Wednesday with the visit of QP ha ha. Looking forward to seeing Ancellotti's selection, as I believe he'll go for a few younger lads, with Borini's first appearance yesterday good to see.

Probably see appearances from Sam Hutchinson, Jeffery Bauma, Borni, and Sturridge with come back run outs for Zhirkov, Joe Cole, Fererria and Alex.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 21, 2009, 05:17:07 PM
Has Sturridge featured much this season or is he injured or what?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 21, 2009, 05:23:37 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on September 21, 2009, 05:17:07 PM
Has Sturridge featured much this season or is he injured or what?

It's a strange one. He played a few minutse earlier in the year, and was on the bench for most or all the other games. However Borini was ahead of him yesterday.
The thing is, Chelsea had a reserve game last week against Ipswich which they won 5-2, with Sturrudge netting three clinking goals. Ancellotti, Wilkens and co were there watching so he surely would've impressed. I am guessing he had a slight knock yesterday.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on September 21, 2009, 05:51:35 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on September 21, 2009, 05:23:37 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on September 21, 2009, 05:17:07 PM
Has Sturridge featured much this season or is he injured or what?

It's a strange one. He played a few minutse earlier in the year, and was on the bench for most or all the other games. However Borini was ahead of him yesterday.
The thing is, Chelsea had a reserve game last week against Ipswich which they won 5-2, with Sturrudge netting three clinking goals. Ancellotti, Wilkens and co were there watching so he surely would've impressed. I am guessing he had a slight knock yesterday.

Keeping him fresh for when Drog goes to Cup of Nations ;) 

Very good performance yesterday though the last two games have shown that Spurs are still a good bit off the top teams.  Shame the ref didn't card Keane for the worst dive of the season so far! :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 21, 2009, 06:19:11 PM
One for the Chelski fans....

Speaking of Drogba, interesting profile on DD in the Sunday Tribune yesterday, would genuinely endear you to the guy...

QuoteA Riddle Wrapped In A Mystery Inside An Enigma
Didier Drogba's life and actions off the pitch are utterly at odds with his on-field image, writes Miguel Delaney
Mr Nice Guy: Didier Drogba's sometimes childish behaviour on the pitch doesn't seem to tally with his charity work and political activism

Disgraceful. It's a word Didier Drogba is by now used to reading about himself. This is a rare footballer, after all, who admits he devours newspapers – not always turning to the sports pages first – and it's an adjective over-used in describing him. Him and his diving, his dramatics, his "dark side" as one coach put it.

But rarely his delivery. Yet that was exactly what Drogba had to read and ruminate on back in April. He had just scored against Arsenal to put Chelsea into the FA Cup final and nicely round off a run of nine goals in 11 games. But instead of receiving praise he was pillorised for it. One pundit questioned his professionalism and several articles followed asking why he withheld that kind of form under Felipe Scolari only to unleash it for Guus Hiddink. As if Drogba had consciously, and calculatingly, looked to cost the Brazilian his job.

It says a lot about the perception of Drogba that, when it came to last season's personal slump, many blamed his morals rather than Scolari's man-management. But then piercing perceptions is what Drogba has specialised in since arriving in England.

The story goes that, on seeing his physical frame thunder into training in the summer of 2004, one former Chelsea teammate remarked "Drogba has the worst first touch of a professional I've ever seen". And it was a statement that seemingly reverberated around the dressing-room – Drogba admitted in his strikingly candid autobiography "at the beginning, I felt that I wasn't welcomed by the English players, wasn't accepted" – as well as the stands. Chelsea supporters had by then become accustomed to tempting only the biggest names to Stamford Bridge, not some no-mark from Marseille with a few Uefa Cup goals. And an overpriced one at that. Certainly not an Andriy Shevchenko, nor a Raul. It took them a while to let him forget it. Most infamously when he was booed against Manchester City in Spring 2006.

That was then. Now? The player who questioned Drogba's control has long left Chelsea while the Ivorian's ability has helped him score some of the most crucial and cracking goals in the club's recent history. Many of them, most memorably blockbusters against Everton and Barcelona, made from his ability to turn on a single touch.

As for the rest of his teammates? Well that matter was sorted within a few months thanks to his endeavour. To the point that, after his meltdown against Barcelona in May, every single squad member backed him in the face of a board that looked to engineer a sale. It was a feeling echoed among the fans, who now bellow out his name rather than boo him. And why wouldn't they? Following his upswing in form from last February, Drogba has become the focal point of the team again. Almost unplayable at the minute, his four goals in five league games so far have been the greatest factor in Chelsea's 100 per cent record. Certain sections of the Shed End have now even taken up singing an Ivorian chant to celebrate him.

But while they may imitate his countrymen, Chelsea fans can't quite emulate them in terms of affection. Because in the Ivory Coast, love for Drogba goes far beyond what he does with a ball.

On qualifying for the World Cup for the very first time in 2005, almost three years to the day after the Ivorian Civil War broke out, Drogba was called forward as captain to speak on national TV. There were no post-game clichés though, only a calculated speech – what Drogba felt would be a "peaceful weapon", a statement that simply had to be made.

"All players please come together. Ivorians, men and women, from the north, south, centre and west. You've seen this. We've proven that the people of Cote d'Ivoire can all live together side by side, play together towards one same goal: qualifying. We'd promised you this celebration would bring people together. Now we're asking you to make this a reality. Please, let's all kneel... put down your weapons, organise the elections and things will get better."

And Drogba himself made further efforts to ensure they did. On winning the African Player of the Year award in 2007, Drogba flew to Abidjan to have his photo taken with president Laurent Gbagbo. But he wanted something to equal the politician's blatant electioneering. He wanted the team's next African Nations qualifier switched from the capital to Bouake, the seat of the rebels fighting Gbagbo. A grand, unifying gesture. And the president had no option but to accede. The result went far beyond 90 minutes.

Which is exactly how to describe Drogba's attitude to international football. "We were like a ray of sunshine in a country plunged into grave crisis. My status shields me from misery; I'm not blind to that. This responsibility raised up our national team into a symbol of reunification. But we're no politicians. All we can do is radiate positivism and give pacifist speeches."

The kind of reflection beyond most of his peers, and even similarly influential athletes such as Tiger Woods and Michael Jordan. But then Drogba has the personal life to match. He is a UN Goodwill Ambassador and trained accountant. As his agent and friend Thierno Seydi explained, "Didier is one of the 10 best-paid players in the world but humility is part of his personality. He will be an African Michel Platini, a decision-taker." This is a footballer, after all, who castigated the European media for oversimplifying Ivory Coast's problems in their coverage.

And, put simply, all of this is hard to level with the easy image of a pantomime villain. The sort of player who goes down at the merest grapple, throws slaps in the Champions League final and coins in the Carling Cup, pursues Norwegian referees to the point of complaining about him.

While Drogba has evaded the issue of diving, in a recent interview he acknowledged his "over-acting" as Hiddink diplomatically put it. "People think footballers are all like robots, we can control everything on the pitch. But your heart is beating 200 times a minute."

That hyperactive heart then is at once his greatest failing and strength, since it fosters his play-acting but also fires his perseverance. As his "now life-long friend" Jose Mourinho put it, "his work rate is unbelievable. He's the kind of player I have to play, there's no rest for the boy."

With his powerful presence the archetype for the modern forward, this also gives rise to professionalism in the purest sense. When it comes to defending set-pieces, Chelsea coaches have lauded Drogba for doing the work of an extra centre-half with all his headers away. And while this selflessness has often softened his strike-rate, it was another matter Mourinho was quick to pick up on in his first two seasons. "People don't realise just how fundamentally important he is to the team, even when he doesn't score. He fights for Chelsea, not for statistics."

And yet he's started to provide them. All of which is offset, again, by the image of a player so unenthused by visiting Manchester United back in January, Scolari felt it benefitted the team to drop him altogether for the next game. The issue here, however, appears to lie a little deeper than any disagreement with the manager. As Drogba proffers himself, uprooting from Ivory Coast to his uncle's home in France at such a young age always left him looking to form close bonds. A sensitive character, he thrived in them. Scolari however, conscious of Drogba's then 30 years as well as the injuries that appeared to only accentuate them, wasn't willing to provide one. Hiddink was though, as were Mourinho and now Carlo Ancelotti.

Ancelotti, to the extent Chelsea's entire new formation, seems focused on Drogba's force, providing the perfect foil for Nicolas Anelka to rove around behind him and for Florent Malouda, to charge from the wing. And it's something Drogba appreciates. "I have a lot of support from four or five different players. That's good because it creates a lot of movement and allows me to make runs and score." And such praise is returned from Ancelotti. Far from put off by Drogba's age, the coach feels it's perfect. "He's a player who's in the right moment of his career to reach his best."

Whether the team itself is at that stage, despite their flawless start, is open to debate. It should be remembered, after all, that Scolari's Chelsea started with a similar charge and looked certainties for the title. That side had a very different Drogba though.

http://www.tribune.ie/sport/soccer/article/2009/sep/20/a-riddle-wrapped-in-a-mystery-inside-an-enigma/ (http://www.tribune.ie/sport/soccer/article/2009/sep/20/a-riddle-wrapped-in-a-mystery-inside-an-enigma/)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: deiseach on September 21, 2009, 06:25:07 PM
I like Drogba. His candour in admitting to diving a few years back was refreshing. Yeah, he immediately backtracked but it was better than hearing the likes of Stevie G bitching about diving while doing it themselves
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 22, 2009, 01:12:13 AM
Good article- Thanks Dinny.

I am nearly sure that there is a film about Drogba's role in the Ivory Coast. 'African Lion' or something. The big lad has been fantastic year to date, and thankfully has parked some of the histrionics.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: gawa316 on September 22, 2009, 09:25:35 AM
Any word on his injury or was it actually just cramp?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 22, 2009, 09:30:08 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 22, 2009, 09:25:35 AM
Any word on his injury or was it actually just cramp?


Nothing official as of yet!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on September 24, 2009, 09:13:41 AM
Straightforward win for Chelsea last night.  "Big" news was the return of Joe Cole and a start for Yuri Zhirkov, both seem to have come through unscathed.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 24, 2009, 10:06:41 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on September 24, 2009, 09:13:41 AM
Straightforward win for Chelsea last night.  "Big" news was the return of Joe Cole and a start for Yuri Zhirkov, both seem to have come through unscathed.

Cole was busy, but lacked a wee bit of sharpness. The 90 minutes will do him no harm.
Zhirkov looked promising, but seemed to lack a wee bit of confidence.

Two debuts as well. Borini was very game up front, but the forward line of him and Kalou looked too similar, and light.
However Sam Hutchinson was outstanding. His game was so JT like it was unreal, tackling, marking, and barking orders to his senior pros. The big fella did not put a foot wrong, and from what I've seen to date is a much bigger prospect than Mancienne is.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: anportmorforjfc on September 26, 2009, 04:20:18 PM
Wigan 2 Chelsea 1

Cech send off straight red.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 26, 2009, 09:45:02 PM
Was working so never seen today's game, but I hear we were poor. Cech reded and missed the Lpool game, but the bigger worry will Ashley Cole's injury. Cole has been Chelsea's second best player year to date.

I think Chelsea's form, despite the victories, has been iffy, and they have tended to rely on their power to overcome teams. We need Joe Cole back to inject a bit of flair, and more importantly we need Lampard back on form. Lampard makes this team tick.

Apoel away this week, and then the bindippers.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 29, 2009, 09:06:34 PM
Just watched Chelsea reserves v Wolves reserves. Chelsea have 3 or 4 of their second string in Cyprus, and two at the u20 World Cup, therefore had to field a youth side. Wolves had Illwemyo and Vokes up front, both internationals.

Last minute rasping winner for the young Blues via the boot of Dubliner Conor Clifford.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 02, 2009, 11:18:06 AM
Sam Hutchinson called into the England U21 squad. That's 5 Chelsea youf in Pearse's squad now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 04, 2009, 05:23:00 AM
Dear Mr Ancellotti

Please...

1. Make sure you've watched the Champions league games from last season and noted formation.

2. Ensure that we have some semblance of width. That probably means a 4-3-3 formation, with Anelka and Malouda out wide, and Drogba up top.

3. Please inform Ashley and Jose that there is no need to bomb forward too much, as step 2 ensures that width is in place. Tell them, bomb forward, leave gaps, and watch that Spanish chap, and the justice avoider pull wide into them.

4. Please ensure that that Frank young fella is played deeper than normal. Too high up is not his style.

Good Luck

Norf Tyrone.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 05, 2009, 02:32:39 AM
Chelsea essentially won a game of half chances, with both defences very much on top.

However when it came to the crunch, the Drogba/ Anelka combo offered much more than the Torres/ Gerard version. In fact Gerard was AWOL most of the game. Again it highlighted that quel those two and the Scousers have little to offer. Personally I was delighted to see Benyoun on the bench.

At the other end the Percy/ Terry axis was superb, and gave nothing away. Behind that Hilario was top notch, and his command of the box was critical to the victory as it settled the whole team down.

The other thought was that it was kinda ironic that the key moment of the game resulted in a scouser being robbed of possession.........
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: new devil on October 05, 2009, 02:39:36 AM
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on October 05, 2009, 09:28:14 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 05, 2009, 02:32:39 AM
Chelsea essentially won a game of half chances, with both defences very much on top.

However when it came to the crunch, the Drogba/ Anelka combo offered much more than the Torres/ Gerard version. In fact Gerard was AWOL most of the game. Again it highlighted that quel those two and the Scousers have little to offer. Personally I was delighted to see Benyoun on the bench.

At the other end the Percy/ Terry axis was superb, and gave nothing away. Behind that Hilario was top notch, and his command of the box was critical to the victory as it settled the whole team down.

The other thought was that it was kinda ironic that the key moment of the game resulted in a scouser being robbed of possession.........

Do I see a pattern here? 

Due to family committments I didn't see the game but I knew Chelsea had won when my phone didn't go crazy at 6:00pm with texts from scouse fans.  Silence is Golden.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on October 24, 2009, 05:19:41 PM
Joe Cole makes a welcome return to the starting line up for today's game with Blackburn.  He seems to be playing at the head of the diamond formation. :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on October 24, 2009, 06:45:46 PM
Game won already. F**k I hope Blackburn go down. Horrible team to watch. Big Sam partly to blame. Would rather see them go down than the likes of Stoke, Wolves, Burnley. At least they have a go at the big boys anyway. Blackburn went to Chelsea today not expecting anything and are playing like they don't care either. No wonder they haven't won away from home in donkeys. I would be pissed off if I was following them.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: tyroneboi on October 24, 2009, 07:10:18 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on October 24, 2009, 06:45:46 PM
Game won already. F**k I hope Blackburn go down. Horrible team to watch. Big Sam partly to blame. Would rather see them go down than the likes of Stoke, Wolves, Burnley. At least they have a go at the big boys anyway. Blackburn went to Chelsea today not expecting anything and are playing like they don't care either. No wonder they haven't won away from home in donkeys. I would be pissed off if I was following them.

"Big" Sam will probably blame Trappatoni for the defeat afterwards. Bad side and like you I hope they get relegated.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on October 25, 2009, 12:36:51 PM
Blackburn...bad side...bad manager, they could struggle this season.  Chelsea could have had 7 or 8 easily...declared at 5!  Now hoping for a Liverpool win, a rare situation for me!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 25, 2009, 05:50:53 PM
Blackburn were woeful yesterday. With Samba and Dunnout they lacked teeth and belief. Good phrase used below that Chelsea declared at 5. It really could've been double figures.

Another positive too was that it allowed CA 20 minutes to give Jeffery Bruma a run out.

Good to see Joe Cole back, brought some much needed imagination and opened up Bburn often. However the wee f**ker missed a sitter after 30 seconds and I had £10 on him at 8-1.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 28, 2009, 10:20:13 PM
13 goals for and zero against in the last 3 games.

11 wins from 11 at home this season.

25 goals scored, 1 conceded.

28 games unbeaten at the Bridge.


Starting to build a head of steam Carlo? Critical away game this Saturday.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: AFS on October 28, 2009, 10:34:00 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 28, 2009, 10:20:13 PM
13 goals for and zero against in the last 3 games.

11 wins from 11 at home this season.

25 goals scored, 1 conceded.

28 games unbeaten at the Bridge.


Starting to build a head of steam Carlo? Critical away game this Saturday.

Who's your next home game against?  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 28, 2009, 10:39:29 PM
Quote from: AFS on October 28, 2009, 10:34:00 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 28, 2009, 10:20:13 PM
13 goals for and zero against in the last 3 games.

11 wins from 11 at home this season.

25 goals scored, 1 conceded.

28 games unbeaten at the Bridge.


Starting to build a head of steam Carlo? Critical away game this Saturday.

Who's your next home game against?  :P

One game at a time as all the best cliches go...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on October 28, 2009, 11:39:04 PM
Just when I was watching the highlights from Chelsea's game there, I just realised just how strong their squad is. They could field 2 teams that would match each other and most in the league. Not many other teams have the strength they have.

2 teams would be:

Cech, Ferreira, Terry, Alex, Belletti, J Cole, Essien, Ballack, Zhirkov, Drogba, Sturridge.

Hillario, Boswinga, Carvalho, Ivanovic, A Cole, Deco, Lampard, Mikel, Malouda, Anelka, Kalou.

2 quality teams. Is there a squad of this quality elsewhere in Europe?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: AFS on October 29, 2009, 12:23:47 AM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on October 28, 2009, 11:39:04 PM
Cech, Ferreira, Terry, Alex, Belletti, J Cole, Essien, Ballack, Zhirkov, Drogba, Sturridge.

Hillario, Boswinga, Carvalho, Ivanovic, A Cole, Deco, Lampard, Mikel, Malouda, Anelka, Kalou.

2 quality teams. Is there a squad of this quality elsewhere in Europe?

Madrid probably the only ones that come close

Casillas, Ramos, Marcelo, Pepe, Albiol, Alonso, Diarra, Kaka, Ronaldo, Raul, Benzema (4-3-3)

Dudek, Arbeloa, Metzelder, Garay, Van der Vaart, Gago, Diarra, Granero, Guti, Higuain, Van Nistelrooy (3-4-3)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on October 29, 2009, 10:04:39 AM
Quote from: AFS on October 28, 2009, 10:34:00 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 28, 2009, 10:20:13 PM
13 goals for and zero against in the last 3 games.

11 wins from 11 at home this season.

25 goals scored, 1 conceded.

28 games unbeaten at the Bridge.


Starting to build a head of steam Carlo? Critical away game this Saturday.

Who's your next home game against?  :P

Some bad lot who were humped in their last away game by a mid table team.  Looking forward to a "massive" game agin' that sleeping giant Wolves on the 21st Nov ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2009, 12:05:52 AM
Superb stuff by the Blues today, and I have to admit that the fluidity offered by the diamond can be awesome. Anelka was given free reign today, and with the movement of the middle four, Bolton had not got a clue how to deal with him. In addition it allowed Ivanovic to raid forward time and time again. I still think that the diamond can be exploited by a team with decent wide players, but I'll worry about that another day.

Two final thoughts today.

Chelsea's fourth goal today was Harlem globetrotters style football.

I wonder will CA leave some of his big guns at home this Tuesday night. No subs used today suggests that Mssrs Drogba, Anelka, Lampard etc may get a few days off this week.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on November 01, 2009, 12:12:37 AM
Chelsea are playing brilliant football these days. Gone are the boring 1-0's of Mourinho's reign. RA is getting the sexy football he craved for so long, Drogba's goal today proved that, was absolutly sublime.

Chelsea are in a great position. Have argubly one of the strongest club squads in the world, only Barca and Real Madrid could rival it. They wouldn't have the best starting XI in terms of players ability compared to Barca or Madrid, but the way they play as a team makes up for that. Yes the diamond could be in trouble against certain teams, but I feel they would have the strength in depth to change and deal with it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on November 01, 2009, 12:58:43 AM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on October 28, 2009, 11:39:04 PM
Just when I was watching the highlights from Chelsea's game there, I just realised just how strong their squad is. They could field 2 teams that would match each other and most in the league. Not many other teams have the strength they have.

2 teams would be:

Cech, Ferreira, Terry, Alex, Belletti, J Cole, Essien, Ballack, Zhirkov, Drogba, Sturridge.

Hillario, Boswinga, Carvalho, Ivanovic, A Cole, Deco, Lampard, Mikel, Malouda, Anelka, Kalou.

2 quality teams. Is there a squad of this quality elsewhere in Europe?


Van der sar, Evra, ferdinand, Vidic, O Shea, Valencia, Hargreaves, Fletcher, Giggs, Rooney, Berbatov

Foster, F da Silva, Brown, Evans, R Da Silva, Nani, Scholes, Carrick, Obertan, Anderson, Owen

& not bad looking 2 teams their either :) & i didn't even include Tosic, Welbeck, Park, Macheda or the captain Gary Neville
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2009, 09:09:18 AM
Quote from: ross4life on November 01, 2009, 12:58:43 AM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on October 28, 2009, 11:39:04 PM
Just when I was watching the highlights from Chelsea's game there, I just realised just how strong their squad is. They could field 2 teams that would match each other and most in the league. Not many other teams have the strength they have.

2 teams would be:

Cech, Ferreira, Terry, Alex, Belletti, J Cole, Essien, Ballack, Zhirkov, Drogba, Sturridge.

Hillario, Boswinga, Carvalho, Ivanovic, A Cole, Deco, Lampard, Mikel, Malouda, Anelka, Kalou.

2 quality teams. Is there a squad of this quality elsewhere in Europe?


Van der sar, Evra, ferdinand, Vidic, O Shea, Valencia, Hargreaves, Fletcher, Giggs, Rooney, Berbatov

Foster, F da Silva, Brown, Evans, R Da Silva, Nani, Scholes, Carrick, Obertan, Anderson, Owen

& not bad looking 2 teams their either :) & i didn't even include Tosic, Welbeck, Park, Macheda or the captain Gary Neville

See yer man there Ferdinand. The centre half in your first XI. One of your fellow posters on the United thread was saying that Fergie should get rid of him there last week.
Hang on. It was you!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2009, 12:37:40 PM
A few weeks ago I was thinking Chelsea could emulate the Arsenal Invincibles of '04. It's vital now that Utd and Arsenal take points off these feckers as I can't see them dropping much for the rest of the year. If Chelsea walk away from those two games with 6 points it's lights out for the rest.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2009, 01:15:41 PM
Chelsea's next 4 games, are Mancs (H), Wolves, Arsenal and City. Big month coming up!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on November 01, 2009, 04:01:12 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2009, 09:09:18 AM
Quote from: ross4life on November 01, 2009, 12:58:43 AM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on October 28, 2009, 11:39:04 PM
Just when I was watching the highlights from Chelsea's game there, I just realised just how strong their squad is. They could field 2 teams that would match each other and most in the league. Not many other teams have the strength they have.

2 teams would be:

Cech, Ferreira, Terry, Alex, Belletti, J Cole, Essien, Ballack, Zhirkov, Drogba, Sturridge.

Hillario, Boswinga, Carvalho, Ivanovic, A Cole, Deco, Lampard, Mikel, Malouda, Anelka, Kalou.

2 quality teams. Is there a squad of this quality elsewhere in Europe?


Van der sar, Evra, ferdinand, Vidic, O Shea, Valencia, Hargreaves, Fletcher, Giggs, Rooney, Berbatov

Foster, F da Silva, Brown, Evans, R Da Silva, Nani, Scholes, Carrick, Obertan, Anderson, Owen

& not bad looking 2 teams their either :) & i didn't even include Tosic, Welbeck, Park, Macheda or the captain Gary Neville

See yer man there Ferdinand. The centre half in your first XI. One of your fellow posters on the United thread was saying that Fergie should get rid of him there last week.
Hang on. It was you!

who said it was my first XL i just picked two teams  ;) i didn't say get rid of, time for fergie to find a replacement he is 31 & would still be a good squad member (unless your a AC Milan Defender it's rare your still great over 30)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on November 06, 2009, 02:29:57 PM
Transfer ban suspended pending final decision on appeal. Leaving Chelsea free to sign players in January.

So who will they sign? Do they even need anyone or will they sign for the future?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: AFS on November 08, 2009, 11:10:44 AM
John Terry's da has been a bold boy. Bit shit for the son, not a story you'd like to wake up to on one of the biggest days of the season.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/587550/John-Terrys-dad-sells-cocaine-in-bar.html
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: The Real Laoislad on November 08, 2009, 03:45:54 PM
I'd be very surprised if Chelsea don't win today, so I backed them with -1 handicapp @5/2  but I also put a tenner on a score draw just to be safe!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TheGreatRambo on November 08, 2009, 03:51:24 PM
so u backed them to win by 2 goals or not to win at all?? Makes sense
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: The Real Laoislad on November 08, 2009, 03:53:23 PM
Quote from: TheGreatRambo on November 08, 2009, 03:51:24 PM
so u backed them to win by 2 goals or not to win at all?? Makes sense

Two separate bets  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TheGreatRambo on November 08, 2009, 03:57:04 PM
I do understand that, its just that if u fancy a team to win by more than one goal its unusual to have a cover bet on the draw
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: stew on November 08, 2009, 04:03:35 PM
Arsenal are the best team in the world to watch bar none, their passing is out of this world at times ans maybe this is the year they win the premiership. Chelsea will struggle when the africans leave and thye are an older squad and united are not the team last years was, I have a horrible feeling the arse could win it the year.
:'(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: The Real Laoislad on November 08, 2009, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: stew on November 08, 2009, 04:03:35 PM
Arsenal are the best team in the world to watch bar none, their passing is out of this world at times ans maybe this is the year they win the premiership. Chelsea will struggle when the africans leave and thye are an older squad and united are not the team last years was, I have a horrible feeling the arse could win it the year.
:'(

I think Chelsea will win the league quite easily this season to be honest
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on November 08, 2009, 04:54:13 PM
Quote from: stew on November 08, 2009, 04:03:35 PM
Arsenal are the best team in the world to watch bar none, their passing is out of this world at times ans maybe this is the year they win the premiership. Chelsea will struggle when the africans leave and thye are an older squad and united are not the team last years was, I have a horrible feeling the arse could win it the year.
:'(

Barcelona bar NONE ;)


ARSE will be happy with a top 4 finish
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Eastern_Pride on November 08, 2009, 05:18:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 08, 2009, 04:54:13 PM
Quote from: stew on November 08, 2009, 04:03:35 PM
Arsenal are the best team in the world to watch bar none, their passing is out of this world at times ans maybe this is the year they win the premiership. Chelsea will struggle when the africans leave and thye are an older squad and united are not the team last years was, I have a horrible feeling the arse could win it the year.
:'(

Barcelona bar NONE ;)


ARSE will be happy with a top 4 finish
Arsenal are truly breathtaking sometimes but turn out to be too good for their own good way too often. Barcelona are fantastic but have the tendency not to choke a la Arsenal. Chelsea do look very very good at the moment but the game at the moment is poor, Lampard has been a mess
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on November 08, 2009, 05:22:30 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on November 08, 2009, 05:18:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 08, 2009, 04:54:13 PM
Quote from: stew on November 08, 2009, 04:03:35 PM
Arsenal are the best team in the world to watch bar none, their passing is out of this world at times ans maybe this is the year they win the premiership. Chelsea will struggle when the africans leave and thye are an older squad and united are not the team last years was, I have a horrible feeling the arse could win it the year.
:'(

Barcelona bar NONE ;)


ARSE will be happy with a top 4 finish
Arsenal are truly breathtaking sometimes but turn out to be too good for their own good way too often. Barcelona are fantastic but have the tendency not to choke a la Arsenal. Chelsea do look very very good at the moment but the game at the moment is poor, Lampard has been a mess

I have seen Arsenal a few times this year and I think they have more steel about them to be honest than previous years.  I think they will win the PL.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 08, 2009, 07:41:21 PM
Chelsea to win the league with Arsenal pushing them to the wire.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on November 08, 2009, 07:48:05 PM
have to be honest alot hype around arsenal at the moment, IMO when they get a few injuries they will fade away much like last year, big test in few weeks Arsenal v Chelsea

come May i can't see it any different than Man united v Chelsea at the top but the points total is gonna down alot on previous seasons
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: AFS on November 09, 2009, 03:47:18 AM
Way too much hype about Arsenal at the minute. They're battering shite teams, so what? They've been doing that for years and not winning anything. They've won 8 games this season, 7 of them were against teams currently in the bottom half of the league. They've played 3 games against teams in the top half of the league and lost 2 of them.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 11:27:18 AM
Excellent result for the Blues yesterday, if not a poor performance. United's team was set out to stiffle Chelsea and despite the Manc's superior possession the stat of two shots on target says it all.

The referee I thought had a mare and got most decisions wrong. United fans probably can be aggrived at the goal. It was an arguable free kick, and Drogba may have got a pull on Wes Brown, however it was definately on side. United will also look to a Valencia penalty appeal in the first half too.
However Chelsea had their moments too. When Anelka tested VDS in the first half, Drogba was prevented from the rebound by a United defender taking the shirt off his back, Ivanovic was booked for winning a good tackle, Valencia's two footed lunge could've earned more than a yellow and Evans' dangerous play should've seen him get first pick of the showers. Even early in the game United won a corner that Rooney put out. Atkinson had one of those games.

The net result will probably see Rooney incur the wrath of the FA for his post match behaviour, and a possible ban, and not before time.

As for the game itself, and Chelsea's midfield four- bar Essien- lost their battles, with Fletcher in particular making the most of his talents once again. However this is where Ronaldo is missed. The only match winner United had yesterday was Rooney, and he was badly isolated. Chelsea although poor did create a few half chances, but bar Carvalho, Ivanovic and Essien the rest were below par.

However a gap is now there, and with Wolves (H), Arsenal (A) and City (A), it's time to press on.

Long way to go.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: WeAreBlueWeAreWhite on November 09, 2009, 11:39:14 AM
Well said Norf its refreshing to read a review that states all the incidents even the ones your own team could have been punished for. Over on the United thread they call foul all the time on things that went against them but rarely mention things that their own team done wrong and even when they do they then try to make excuses for it
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on November 09, 2009, 11:41:37 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 11:27:18 AM
Excellent result for the Blues yesterday, if not a poor performance. United's team was set out to stiffle Chelsea and despite the Manc's superior possession the stat of two shots on target says it all.

The referee I thought had a mare and got most decisions wrong. United fans probably can be aggrived at the goal. It was an arguable free kick, and Drogba may have got a pull on Wes Brown, however it was definately on side. United will also look to a Valencia penalty appeal in the first half too.
However Chelsea had their moments too. When Anelka tested VDS in the first half, Drogba was prevented from the rebound by a United defender taking the shirt off his back, Ivanovic was booked for winning a good tackle, Valencia's two footed lunge could've earned more than a yellow and Evans' dangerous play should've seen him get first pick of the showers. Even early in the game United won a corner that Rooney put out. Atkinson had one of those games.

The net result will probably see Rooney incur the wrath of the FA for his post match behaviour, and a possible ban, and not before time.

As for the game itself, and Chelsea's midfield four- bar Essien- lost their battles, with Fletcher in particular making the most of his talents once again. However this is where Ronaldo is missed. The only match winner United had yesterday was Rooney, and he was badly isolated. Chelsea although poor did create a few half chances, but bar Carvalho, Ivanovic and Essien the rest were below par.

However a gap is now there, and with Wolves (H), Arsenal (A) and City (A), it's time to press on.

Long way to go.

Fair enough summary Norf.  Chelsea weren't great but managed to scrape over the line.  I seem to be alone in thinking that Fletcher did foul Cole.  Terry definitely fouled Valencia.  Evans should have got the line and poss a Chelsea penalty for the foul on Drogba. 

Is it just me or are Man Utd whinging a hell of a lot??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 12:02:38 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on November 09, 2009, 11:41:37 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 11:27:18 AM
Excellent result for the Blues yesterday, if not a poor performance. United's team was set out to stiffle Chelsea and despite the Manc's superior possession the stat of two shots on target says it all.

The referee I thought had a mare and got most decisions wrong. United fans probably can be aggrived at the goal. It was an arguable free kick, and Drogba may have got a pull on Wes Brown, however it was definately on side. United will also look to a Valencia penalty appeal in the first half too.
However Chelsea had their moments too. When Anelka tested VDS in the first half, Drogba was prevented from the rebound by a United defender taking the shirt off his back, Ivanovic was booked for winning a good tackle, Valencia's two footed lunge could've earned more than a yellow and Evans' dangerous play should've seen him get first pick of the showers. Even early in the game United won a corner that Rooney put out. Atkinson had one of those games.

The net result will probably see Rooney incur the wrath of the FA for his post match behaviour, and a possible ban, and not before time.

As for the game itself, and Chelsea's midfield four- bar Essien- lost their battles, with Fletcher in particular making the most of his talents once again. However this is where Ronaldo is missed. The only match winner United had yesterday was Rooney, and he was badly isolated. Chelsea although poor did create a few half chances, but bar Carvalho, Ivanovic and Essien the rest were below par.

However a gap is now there, and with Wolves (H), Arsenal (A) and City (A), it's time to press on.

Long way to go.

Fair enough summary Norf.  Chelsea weren't great but managed to scrape over the line.  I seem to be alone in thinking that Fletcher did foul Cole.  Terry definitely fouled Valencia.  Evans should have got the line and poss a Chelsea penalty for the foul on Drogba. 

Is it just me or are Man Utd whinging a hell of a lot??

The Fletcher/Cole incident was debatable. He got the slightest touch on the ball but was high on it.

The United fan's whining is music to my ears. Delighted to hear Fergie's whinges. Class manager, but far from a class act anymore.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Rafa on November 09, 2009, 02:34:32 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 11:27:18 AM
Excellent result for the Blues yesterday, if not a poor performance.

Does that make sense?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 09, 2009, 02:57:28 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 12:02:38 PM


The Fletcher/Cole incident was debatable. He got the slightest touch on the ball but was high on it.

The United fan's whining is music to my ears. Delighted to hear Fergie's whinges. Class manager, but far from a class act anymore.

Because Chelsea and their supporters are usually so gracious at accepting poor decisions,  :D :D :D ::)

Anybody remember a game against Barcelona a couple of months ago? I'm sure Anders Frisk would be very forthcoming about Chelsea's attitude to referees. I've also seen numerous delusional rants from yourself about there being a bias against Chelsea in europe as they weren't in the elite club thing. Fans, managers and players complain about bad decisions. Don't remember you ever criticising Mourinho's obsessive rants.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Rafa on November 09, 2009, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 09, 2009, 02:57:28 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 12:02:38 PM


The Fletcher/Cole incident was debatable. He got the slightest touch on the ball but was high on it.

The United fan's whining is music to my ears. Delighted to hear Fergie's whinges. Class manager, but far from a class act anymore.

Because Chelsea and their supporters are usually so gracious at accepting poor decisions,  :D :D :D ::)

Anybody remember a game against Barcelona a couple of months ago? I'm sure Anders Frisk would be very forthcoming about Chelsea's attitude to referees. I've also seen numerous delusional rants from yourself about there being a bias against Chelsea in europe as they weren't in the elite club thing. Fans, managers and players complain about bad decisions. Don't remember you ever criticising Mourinho's obsessive rants.

Tac is always the most bitter about a defeat it seems!

Your smiley faces fool no one, I can envisage the vein popping in your neck with rage from yesterday.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on November 09, 2009, 03:24:36 PM
Quote from: Rafa on November 09, 2009, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 09, 2009, 02:57:28 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 12:02:38 PM


The Fletcher/Cole incident was debatable. He got the slightest touch on the ball but was high on it.

The United fan's whining is music to my ears. Delighted to hear Fergie's whinges. Class manager, but far from a class act anymore.

Because Chelsea and their supporters are usually so gracious at accepting poor decisions,  :D :D :D ::)

Anybody remember a game against Barcelona a couple of months ago? I'm sure Anders Frisk would be very forthcoming about Chelsea's attitude to referees. I've also seen numerous delusional rants from yourself about there being a bias against Chelsea in europe as they weren't in the elite club thing. Fans, managers and players complain about bad decisions. Don't remember you ever criticising Mourinho's obsessive rants.

Tac is always the most bitter about a defeat it seems!

Your smiley faces fool no one, I can envisage the vein popping in your neck with rage from yesterday.

Anders Frisk??  Is that the ref who had a meeting with Frank Rijkaard at half time, then denied it, then admitted it was true?  Oh yeah, that Anders Frisk.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: full back on November 09, 2009, 03:56:14 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on November 09, 2009, 03:24:36 PM
Quote from: Rafa on November 09, 2009, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 09, 2009, 02:57:28 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 12:02:38 PM


The Fletcher/Cole incident was debatable. He got the slightest touch on the ball but was high on it.

The United fan's whining is music to my ears. Delighted to hear Fergie's whinges. Class manager, but far from a class act anymore.

Because Chelsea and their supporters are usually so gracious at accepting poor decisions,  :D :D :D ::)

Anybody remember a game against Barcelona a couple of months ago? I'm sure Anders Frisk would be very forthcoming about Chelsea's attitude to referees. I've also seen numerous delusional rants from yourself about there being a bias against Chelsea in europe as they weren't in the elite club thing. Fans, managers and players complain about bad decisions. Don't remember you ever criticising Mourinho's obsessive rants.

Tac is always the most bitter about a defeat it seems!

Your smiley faces fool no one, I can envisage the vein popping in your neck with rage from yesterday.

Anders Frisk??  Is that the ref who had a meeting with Frank Rijkaard at half time, then denied it, then admitted it was true?  Oh yeah, that Anders Frisk.

The same Anders Frisk who retired from the game due to deeath threats made to his family following a Chelsea CL league game.....................

On 12 March Frisk announced his immediate retirement, citing threats made to his family[2]. Two weeks previously, he had been severely criticised by Chelsea fans, players and management following his handling of a UEFA Champions League tie between Barcelona and Chelsea, during which he sent off Chelsea's Didier Drogba for receiving two cautions. Chelsea's manager, José Mourinho, publicly accused Frisk of having invited the Barça manager, Frank Rijkaard, into his room at half-time, an act that is against UEFA regulations.

UEFA charged Chelsea with inappropriate conduct following the match. Mourinho received a touchline ban for both legs of Chelsea's quarter-final against Bayern Munich for the suggestion that Rijkaard had entered the officials' dressing room. It was revealed on 7 April that the UEFA venue director, Pascal Fratellia, had observed Rijkaard say hello in the tunnel and then attempt to converse with Frisk about the match on the way to the officials' room. Allegedly Frisk told him that "This is not the place or the moment to talk about the match" and left Rijkaard outside the room[3].

On 19 December, Frisk was awarded FIFA's Presidential Award as "recognition for a career cut short following death threats against his family"



The irony of Chelsea fans is blinding in this :D :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on November 09, 2009, 04:34:43 PM
Death threats ???

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 09, 2009, 04:35:12 PM
Quote from: Rafa on November 09, 2009, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 09, 2009, 02:57:28 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 12:02:38 PM


The Fletcher/Cole incident was debatable. He got the slightest touch on the ball but was high on it.

The United fan's whining is music to my ears. Delighted to hear Fergie's whinges. Class manager, but far from a class act anymore.

Because Chelsea and their supporters are usually so gracious at accepting poor decisions,  :D :D :D ::)

Anybody remember a game against Barcelona a couple of months ago? I'm sure Anders Frisk would be very forthcoming about Chelsea's attitude to referees. I've also seen numerous delusional rants from yourself about there being a bias against Chelsea in europe as they weren't in the elite club thing. Fans, managers and players complain about bad decisions. Don't remember you ever criticising Mourinho's obsessive rants.

Tac is always the most bitter about a defeat it seems!

Your smiley faces fool no one, I can envisage the vein popping in your neck with rage from yesterday.

Well God forbid that I'd fool you Rafa. Fact.

To be honest I'm more worried about Derry City than Man Utd this weekend.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: full back on November 09, 2009, 04:42:58 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on November 09, 2009, 04:34:43 PM
Death threats ???

Thats what it says AQMP
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Rafa on November 09, 2009, 05:00:47 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 09, 2009, 04:35:12 PM
Quote from: Rafa on November 09, 2009, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 09, 2009, 02:57:28 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 12:02:38 PM


The Fletcher/Cole incident was debatable. He got the slightest touch on the ball but was high on it.

The United fan's whining is music to my ears. Delighted to hear Fergie's whinges. Class manager, but far from a class act anymore.

Because Chelsea and their supporters are usually so gracious at accepting poor decisions,  :D :D :D ::)

Anybody remember a game against Barcelona a couple of months ago? I'm sure Anders Frisk would be very forthcoming about Chelsea's attitude to referees. I've also seen numerous delusional rants from yourself about there being a bias against Chelsea in europe as they weren't in the elite club thing. Fans, managers and players complain about bad decisions. Don't remember you ever criticising Mourinho's obsessive rants.

Tac is always the most bitter about a defeat it seems!

Your smiley faces fool no one, I can envisage the vein popping in your neck with rage from yesterday.

Well God forbid that I'd fool you Rafa. Fact.

To be honest I'm more worried about Derry City than Man Utd this weekend.

So whereabouts in the great walled city do you hail from then?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 05:14:37 PM
Quote from: full back on November 09, 2009, 03:56:14 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on November 09, 2009, 03:24:36 PM
Quote from: Rafa on November 09, 2009, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 09, 2009, 02:57:28 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 12:02:38 PM


The Fletcher/Cole incident was debatable. He got the slightest touch on the ball but was high on it.

The United fan's whining is music to my ears. Delighted to hear Fergie's whinges. Class manager, but far from a class act anymore.

Because Chelsea and their supporters are usually so gracious at accepting poor decisions,  :D :D :D ::)

Anybody remember a game against Barcelona a couple of months ago? I'm sure Anders Frisk would be very forthcoming about Chelsea's attitude to referees. I've also seen numerous delusional rants from yourself about there being a bias against Chelsea in europe as they weren't in the elite club thing. Fans, managers and players complain about bad decisions. Don't remember you ever criticising Mourinho's obsessive rants.

Tac is always the most bitter about a defeat it seems!

Your smiley faces fool no one, I can envisage the vein popping in your neck with rage from yesterday.

Anders Frisk??  Is that the ref who had a meeting with Frank Rijkaard at half time, then denied it, then admitted it was true?  Oh yeah, that Anders Frisk.

The same Anders Frisk who retired from the game due to deeath threats made to his family following a Chelsea CL league game.....................

On 12 March Frisk announced his immediate retirement, citing threats made to his family[2]. Two weeks previously, he had been severely criticised by Chelsea fans, players and management following his handling of a UEFA Champions League tie between Barcelona and Chelsea, during which he sent off Chelsea's Didier Drogba for receiving two cautions. Chelsea's manager, José Mourinho, publicly accused Frisk of having invited the Barça manager, Frank Rijkaard, into his room at half-time, an act that is against UEFA regulations.

UEFA charged Chelsea with inappropriate conduct following the match. Mourinho received a touchline ban for both legs of Chelsea's quarter-final against Bayern Munich for the suggestion that Rijkaard had entered the officials' dressing room. It was revealed on 7 April that the UEFA venue director, Pascal Fratellia, had observed Rijkaard say hello in the tunnel and then attempt to converse with Frisk about the match on the way to the officials' room. Allegedly Frisk told him that "This is not the place or the moment to talk about the match" and left Rijkaard outside the room[3].

On 19 December, Frisk was awarded FIFA's Presidential Award as "recognition for a career cut short following death threats against his family"



The irony of Chelsea fans is blinding in this :D :D


Where in your italics does it mention Chelsea fans made the death threats?


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Because Chelsea and their supporters are usually so gracious at accepting poor decisions,  :D :D :D ::)

Anybody remember a game against Barcelona a couple of months ago? I'm sure Anders Frisk would be very forthcoming about Chelsea's attitude to referees. I've also seen numerous delusional rants from yourself about there being a bias against Chelsea in europe as they weren't in the elite club thing. Fans, managers and players complain about bad decisions. Don't remember you ever criticising Mourinho's obsessive rants.
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I think there is a bias against Chelsea in Europe. Quotes from the UEFA hierarchy, and their actions fuel this.

I didn't criticise José and I didn't criticise Fergie either. I said I was delighted to hear his whinges
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on November 09, 2009, 05:48:12 PM
Quote from: full back on November 09, 2009, 04:42:58 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on November 09, 2009, 04:34:43 PM
Death threats ???

Thats what it says AQMP

I'm surprised Mr Frisk (no not the Grand National winner) never brought the police in to investigate this, particularly since he claims the threats were made by telephone and email.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Rudigar on November 09, 2009, 05:57:55 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 09, 2009, 04:35:12 PM
Quote from: Rafa on November 09, 2009, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 09, 2009, 02:57:28 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 12:02:38 PM


The Fletcher/Cole incident was debatable. He got the slightest touch on the ball but was high on it.

The United fan's whining is music to my ears. Delighted to hear Fergie's whinges. Class manager, but far from a class act anymore.

Because Chelsea and their supporters are usually so gracious at accepting poor decisions,  :D :D :D ::)

Anybody remember a game against Barcelona a couple of months ago? I'm sure Anders Frisk would be very forthcoming about Chelsea's attitude to referees. I've also seen numerous delusional rants from yourself about there being a bias against Chelsea in europe as they weren't in the elite club thing. Fans, managers and players complain about bad decisions. Don't remember you ever criticising Mourinho's obsessive rants.

Tac is always the most bitter about a defeat it seems!

Your smiley faces fool no one, I can envisage the vein popping in your neck with rage from yesterday.

Well God forbid that I'd fool you Rafa. Fact.

To be honest I'm more worried about Derry City than Man Utd this weekend.

Just out of interest, why are you worried about Derry if your from Armagh? Genuine question.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 09, 2009, 06:19:51 PM

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 05:14:37 PM


I didn't criticise José and I didn't criticise Fergie either. I said I was delighted to hear his whinges

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 12:02:38 PM

The Fletcher/Cole incident was debatable. He got the slightest touch on the ball but was high on it.

The United fan's whining is music to my ears. Delighted to hear Fergie's whinges. Class manager, but far from a class act anymore.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 09, 2009, 06:23:14 PM
Quote from: Rafa on November 09, 2009, 05:00:47 PM

So whereabouts in the great walled city do you hail from then?

Did I say I was from Derry?

Quote from: Rudigar on November 09, 2009, 05:57:55 PM


Just out of interest, why are you worried about Derry if your from Armagh? Genuine question.

A few of my friends from Uni were mad into Derry. I tagged along to a few games, enjoyed it and have followed them since.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on November 09, 2009, 07:37:32 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 11:27:18 AM
Excellent result for the Blues yesterday, if not a poor performance. United's team was set out to stiffle Chelsea and despite the Manc's superior possession the stat of two shots on target says it all.

The referee I thought had a mare and got most decisions wrong. United fans probably can be aggrived at the goal. It was an arguable free kick, and Drogba may have got a pull on Wes Brown, however it was definately on side. United will also look to a Valencia penalty appeal in the first half too.
However Chelsea had their moments too. When Anelka tested VDS in the first half, Drogba was prevented from the rebound by a United defender taking the shirt off his back, Ivanovic was booked for winning a good tackle, Valencia's two footed lunge could've earned more than a yellow and Evans' dangerous play should've seen him get first pick of the showers. Even early in the game United won a corner that Rooney put out. Atkinson had one of those games.

The net result will probably see Rooney incur the wrath of the FA for his post match behaviour, and a possible ban, and not before time.

As for the game itself, and Chelsea's midfield four- bar Essien- lost their battles, with Fletcher in particular making the most of his talents once again. However this is where Ronaldo is missed. The only match winner United had yesterday was Rooney, and he was badly isolated. Chelsea although poor did create a few half chances, but bar Carvalho, Ivanovic and Essien the rest were below par.

However a gap is now there, and with Wolves (H), Arsenal (A) and City (A), it's time to press on.

Long way to go.

only time Ronaldo played well v Chelsea was the champions league final when for some reason essien was given the job of marking him & i think that was the only time he scored v you also?

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 09, 2009, 07:37:32 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 11:27:18 AM
Excellent result for the Blues yesterday, if not a poor performance. United's team was set out to stiffle Chelsea and despite the Manc's superior possession the stat of two shots on target says it all.

The referee I thought had a mare and got most decisions wrong. United fans probably can be aggrived at the goal. It was an arguable free kick, and Drogba may have got a pull on Wes Brown, however it was definately on side. United will also look to a Valencia penalty appeal in the first half too.
However Chelsea had their moments too. When Anelka tested VDS in the first half, Drogba was prevented from the rebound by a United defender taking the shirt off his back, Ivanovic was booked for winning a good tackle, Valencia's two footed lunge could've earned more than a yellow and Evans' dangerous play should've seen him get first pick of the showers. Even early in the game United won a corner that Rooney put out. Atkinson had one of those games.

The net result will probably see Rooney incur the wrath of the FA for his post match behaviour, and a possible ban, and not before time.

As for the game itself, and Chelsea's midfield four- bar Essien- lost their battles, with Fletcher in particular making the most of his talents once again. However this is where Ronaldo is missed. The only match winner United had yesterday was Rooney, and he was badly isolated. Chelsea although poor did create a few half chances, but bar Carvalho, Ivanovic and Essien the rest were below par.

However a gap is now there, and with Wolves (H), Arsenal (A) and City (A), it's time to press on.

Long way to go.

only time Ronaldo played well v Chelsea was the champions league final when for some reason essien was given the job of marking him & i think that was the only time he scored v you also?


Fair point, but CR still had the ability to create plenty, and he made United less predictable.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 09:17:38 PM
 :D

Just watched Chelsea reserves score late to grab a 3-3 draw with Birmingham there, with 16yo Lalkovic scoring Chelsea's equiliser. Understandably the kid was very happy, and interviewed live on CTV at the final whistle.

Barnett- 'Well done, first goal for the reserves.'
Lalkovic- 'Yeah, great, happy, we won, three points, it's good!"
Moment of stunned silence.

Barnett - 'One point, we drew'
Lalkovic "We drew?"
Barnett "Yes". (Fellow interviewee players look perplexed at him)
Lalkovic (By now looking extremely confused)"I thought we won?"
Barnett "No we drew" (Fellow young player slaps Lalkovic on the chest)
Lalvkovic "Oh yes I remember, they scored a header"

(They didn't, they score all goals with their feet so one can asume the kid was winging it at this stage!)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on November 09, 2009, 09:53:30 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 09:17:38 PM
:D

Just watched Chelsea reserves score late to grab a 3-3 draw with Birmingham there, with 16yo Lalkovic scoring Chelsea's equiliser. Understandably the kid was very happy, and interviewed live on CTV at the final whistle.

Barnett- 'Well done, first goal for the reserves.'
Lalkovic- 'Yeah, great, happy, we won, three points, it's good!"
Moment of stunned silence.

Barnett - 'One point, we drew'
Lalkovic "We drew?"
Barnett "Yes". (Fellow interviewee players look perplexed at him)
Lalkovic (By now looking extremely confused)"I thought we won?"
Barnett "No we drew" (Fellow young player slaps Lalkovic on the chest)
Lalvkovic "Oh yes I remember, they scored a header"

(They didn't, they score all goals with their feet so one can asume the kid was winging it at this stage!)

I always accuse players of not knowing the rules but this lad has taken it to a new level!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 09, 2009, 09:55:26 PM
I meant v Fulham for that interview. Watching one thing, and listening to another.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: nrico2006 on November 10, 2009, 08:59:50 AM
QuoteFair enough summary Norf.  Chelsea weren't great but managed to scrape over the line.  I seem to be alone in thinking that Fletcher did foul Cole.  Terry definitely fouled Valencia.  Evans should have got the line and poss a Chelsea penalty for the foul on Drogba. 

Is it just me or are Man Utd whinging a hell of a lot??

Wise up.  Evans was in the air after clearing when Drogba plowed into him.  Chelsea get the 3 points, didn't deserve it though.   United were the better side but do lack that creative edge, something that they missed last year aswell as was evident in the CL Final.  Ronaldo was never a dominant player in these games, apart from the CL Final.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on November 14, 2009, 02:22:23 PM
So Drogba is possibly out for 3 weeks with a broken rib. I wonder how he got this injury. Must have been when he dived and got booked for it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: new devil on November 14, 2009, 05:01:28 PM
Archie you really don't like united to you?  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on November 14, 2009, 05:06:31 PM
The only team I like is City. I don't like any other team. Drogba got alot of abuse on here for diving, people saying he deserved it, maybe deserved being kicked elsewhere etc. So it turns out he could have a serious enough injury, where are all the posters slagging him off now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: new devil on November 14, 2009, 05:34:24 PM
I didn't say Drogba dived..He was diffiently caught by evans but it was an accident...Don't no why he got booked
Ive said before on here that Drogba is a player i have a lot of time for.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: AFS on November 14, 2009, 06:00:45 PM
I'd have my doubts that he's that seriously injured. Could be very likely that he just didn't fancy a trip to the Ivory Coast to play in a dead rubber.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on November 14, 2009, 06:16:39 PM
Quote from: new devil on November 14, 2009, 05:34:24 PM
I didn't say Drogba dived..He was diffiently caught by evans but it was an accident...Don't no why he got booked
Ive said before on here that Drogba is a player i have a lot of time for.

That will keep him warm at night.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: new devil on November 14, 2009, 07:36:51 PM
 ::) ::) 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 14, 2009, 09:42:29 PM
Quote from: AFS on November 14, 2009, 06:00:45 PM
I'd have my doubts that he's that seriously injured. Could be very likely that he just didn't fancy a trip to the Ivory Coast to play in a dead rubber.

I doubt there is a footballer in the world who has done more for his country that Drogba, so to say he didn't fancy a trip to his country for a dead rubber is laughable.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Eastern_Pride on November 14, 2009, 10:00:27 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 14, 2009, 09:42:29 PM
Quote from: AFS on November 14, 2009, 06:00:45 PM
I'd have my doubts that he's that seriously injured. Could be very likely that he just didn't fancy a trip to the Ivory Coast to play in a dead rubber.

I doubt there is a footballer in the world who has done more for his country that Drogba, so to say he didn't fancy a trip to his country for a dead rubber is laughable.
Quite right, although I doubt the chap in question has ever seen him play for his country. A player who really has come on in leaps and bounds since he moved to Chelsea
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: AFS on November 14, 2009, 10:25:14 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 14, 2009, 09:42:29 PM
Quote from: AFS on November 14, 2009, 06:00:45 PM
I'd have my doubts that he's that seriously injured. Could be very likely that he just didn't fancy a trip to the Ivory Coast to play in a dead rubber.

I doubt there is a footballer in the world who has done more for his country that Drogba, so to say he didn't fancy a trip to his country for a dead rubber is laughable.

They were already qualified and were probably going to experiment a bit, so he mightn't have even played. They didn't need him for a game that didn't matter, so there was no harm staying behind when he might not be 100%.

The broken rib story has only been reported in the Sun so far, so some scepticism is reasonable.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2009, 10:52:15 AM
http://www.footytube.com/video/2-1-27415 (http://www.footytube.com/video/2-1-27415)

A contender for one of the greatest goals that never was by Zhirkov last night!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TheGreatRambo on November 15, 2009, 12:27:22 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 14, 2009, 09:42:29 PM
Quote from: AFS on November 14, 2009, 06:00:45 PM
I'd have my doubts that he's that seriously injured. Could be very likely that he just didn't fancy a trip to the Ivory Coast to play in a dead rubber.

I doubt there is a footballer in the world who has done more for his country that Drogba, so to say he didn't fancy a trip to his country for a dead rubber is laughable.

What has he done that sets him apart from other players who representing their countries then???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: AFS on November 15, 2009, 12:44:12 PM
Quote from: TheGreatRambo on November 15, 2009, 12:27:22 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 14, 2009, 09:42:29 PM
Quote from: AFS on November 14, 2009, 06:00:45 PM
I'd have my doubts that he's that seriously injured. Could be very likely that he just didn't fancy a trip to the Ivory Coast to play in a dead rubber.

I doubt there is a footballer in the world who has done more for his country that Drogba, so to say he didn't fancy a trip to his country for a dead rubber is laughable.

What has he done that sets him apart from other players who representing their countries then???

In fairness Norf has a point, Drogba rarely misses games for the Ivory Coast. However in this instance, their game was irrelevant and took on no more importance than a friendly. My suggestion was that Drogba, maybe not feeling 100%, decided, with some prompting from his club, that he would give this one a miss, especially in light of the fact that he'll be heading off with his country for a month anyway in a few weeks time. I doubt Drogba is above a bit of pragmatism.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TheGreatRambo on November 15, 2009, 12:50:34 PM
Quote from: AFS on November 15, 2009, 12:44:12 PM
Quote from: TheGreatRambo on November 15, 2009, 12:27:22 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 14, 2009, 09:42:29 PM
Quote from: AFS on November 14, 2009, 06:00:45 PM
I'd have my doubts that he's that seriously injured. Could be very likely that he just didn't fancy a trip to the Ivory Coast to play in a dead rubber.

I doubt there is a footballer in the world who has done more for his country that Drogba, so to say he didn't fancy a trip to his country for a dead rubber is laughable.

What has he done that sets him apart from other players who representing their countries then???

In fairness Norf has a point, Drogba rarely misses games for the Ivory Coast. However in this instance, their game was irrelevant and took on no more importance than a friendly. My suggestion was that Drogba, maybe not feeling 100%, decided, with some prompting from his club, that he would give this one a miss, especially in light of the fact that he'll be heading off with his country for a month anyway in a few weeks time. I doubt Drogba is above a bit of pragmatism.

i'm not knocking norf or Drogba for that matter, he is a player who seems genuinely interested in and proud to play for his country. I think he may be alluding to him "bringing peace to the country" which I always was a bit sceptical about!!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2009, 01:55:53 PM
I don't believe that Drogba's influence meant he was locked in political talks for weeks on end, but his influence was massive. In addition, I think he has just donated £2.5 million to build a hospital back in IC too. Don't quote me on that though.... yet.

Drogba- The African King

All he said was: "Come to Abidjan, Alex. You will not be disappointed." Ordinarily, when a footballer tells you to jump on a plane and travel thousands of miles to West Africa for an interview, you tend to hesitate. But then Didier Drogba is no ordinary footballer and, as it turned out, this was to be no ordinary interview.

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As soon as I landed in the capital of Drogba's native Ivory Coast, it immediately became apparent just how big a star he was. Almost every street corner housed a giant billboard on which the Chelsea striker advertised everything from chocolate to mobile phones.


It was clear that Drogba was the face of his country; the symbol of a new, post-civil war Ivory Coast. What was yet to emerge, however, was his pivotal role in bringing about that peace.

Civil war had been raging for five years when, moments after leading his nation to the 2006 World Cup finals in Germany back in October 2005, Drogba picked up a microphone in the dressing room and, surrounded by his team-mates, fell to his knees live on national television. He begged both warring factions to lay down their arms and, within a week, his bold wish had been granted. "It was just something I did instinctively," he explained. "All the players hated what was happening to our country and reaching the World Cup was the perfect emotional wave on which to ride."

The culmination of the peace process came on the second day of my trip, when the White Elephants played an African Nations Cup qualifier against Madagascar in Bouake, the old rebel stronghold about 300 kilometres north of Abidjan.

"Seeing both leaders side by side for the national anthems was very special," Didier said. "I felt then that that the Ivory Coast was born again."

I had been totally unaware of Didier's incredible feat until I began talking to people in Abidjan. At no point had he mentioned, let alone boasted, about his political involvement. I wondered why he had not spoken about this before, especially when the British press had been on his back? "I don't feel I need to say anything to anybody about who I am in Africa," Drogba replied. "I know what I stand for and that is all that matters."

Had he not, though, sometimes wanted to bite back when his integrity on the field had been called into question? "Honestly," he said, "it doesn't bother me what I get accused of. The people who mean most to me know what I am really about."

Many footballers have used their influence to great effect in recent years, whether by putting their name to an inner city project or sponsoring a charity, but none has ever stopped a country tearing itself apart. Truth be told, no other player could. Drogba is a god to the Ivorian people, not just because he is a famous footballer, but also because he is someone who speaks for the masses. He is in tune with the average Ivorian. "Of course," he said, "because above all I am one of them."

On the way to the house where he grew up in the suburbs of Abidjan, he told me that he could cope without money; that he could easily give up all the trappings of wealth and return to a humble life back home. Before my trip, I would have doubted him. But today I am sure he was being truthful.

Of course Drogba enjoys his lifestyle, but that does not mean he is detached from the world around him. "The money came after my education," he said, "after I became a man."

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When standing on the balcony of his ancestral home, looking down on the thousands of cheering locals who had assembled as soon as word got out that he was in the village, Didier looked visibly moved. "There are no words to express how I feel right now," he said. "This is love."

However, he did manage to describe his emotions after the ceasefire agreement. "I have won many trophies in my time," he explained, "but nothing will ever top helping win the battle for peace in my country. I am so proud because today in the Ivory Coast we do not need a piece of silverware to celebrate."
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 15, 2009, 02:46:27 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2009, 01:55:53 PM
I don't believe that Drogba's influence meant he was locked in political talks for weeks on end, but his influence was massive. In addition, I think he has just donated £2.5 million to build a hospital back in IC too. Don't quote me on that though.... yet.

Drogba- The African King

All he said was: "Come to Abidjan, Alex. You will not be disappointed." Ordinarily, when a footballer tells you to jump on a plane and travel thousands of miles to West Africa for an interview, you tend to hesitate. But then Didier Drogba is no ordinary footballer and, as it turned out, this was to be no ordinary interview.

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As soon as I landed in the capital of Drogba's native Ivory Coast, it immediately became apparent just how big a star he was. Almost every street corner housed a giant billboard on which the Chelsea striker advertised everything from chocolate to mobile phones.


It was clear that Drogba was the face of his country; the symbol of a new, post-civil war Ivory Coast. What was yet to emerge, however, was his pivotal role in bringing about that peace.

Civil war had been raging for five years when, moments after leading his nation to the 2006 World Cup finals in Germany back in October 2005, Drogba picked up a microphone in the dressing room and, surrounded by his team-mates, fell to his knees live on national television. He begged both warring factions to lay down their arms and, within a week, his bold wish had been granted. "It was just something I did instinctively," he explained. "All the players hated what was happening to our country and reaching the World Cup was the perfect emotional wave on which to ride."

The culmination of the peace process came on the second day of my trip, when the White Elephants played an African Nations Cup qualifier against Madagascar in Bouake, the old rebel stronghold about 300 kilometres north of Abidjan.

"Seeing both leaders side by side for the national anthems was very special," Didier said. "I felt then that that the Ivory Coast was born again."

I had been totally unaware of Didier's incredible feat until I began talking to people in Abidjan. At no point had he mentioned, let alone boasted, about his political involvement. I wondered why he had not spoken about this before, especially when the British press had been on his back? "I don't feel I need to say anything to anybody about who I am in Africa," Drogba replied. "I know what I stand for and that is all that matters."

Had he not, though, sometimes wanted to bite back when his integrity on the field had been called into question? "Honestly," he said, "it doesn't bother me what I get accused of. The people who mean most to me know what I am really about."

Many footballers have used their influence to great effect in recent years, whether by putting their name to an inner city project or sponsoring a charity, but none has ever stopped a country tearing itself apart. Truth be told, no other player could. Drogba is a god to the Ivorian people, not just because he is a famous footballer, but also because he is someone who speaks for the masses. He is in tune with the average Ivorian. "Of course," he said, "because above all I am one of them."

On the way to the house where he grew up in the suburbs of Abidjan, he told me that he could cope without money; that he could easily give up all the trappings of wealth and return to a humble life back home. Before my trip, I would have doubted him. But today I am sure he was being truthful.

Of course Drogba enjoys his lifestyle, but that does not mean he is detached from the world around him. "The money came after my education," he said, "after I became a man."

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When standing on the balcony of his ancestral home, looking down on the thousands of cheering locals who had assembled as soon as word got out that he was in the village, Didier looked visibly moved. "There are no words to express how I feel right now," he said. "This is love."

However, he did manage to describe his emotions after the ceasefire agreement. "I have won many trophies in my time," he explained, "but nothing will ever top helping win the battle for peace in my country. I am so proud because today in the Ivory Coast we do not need a piece of silverware to celebrate."


You got love the Drog, definitely my favourite character/footballer outside the goons in the Premiership. A man bigger than the game...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TheGreatRambo on November 15, 2009, 05:16:25 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2009, 01:55:53 PM
I don't believe that Drogba's influence meant he was locked in political talks for weeks on end, but his influence was massive. In addition, I think he has just donated £2.5 million to build a hospital back in IC too. Don't quote me on that though.... yet.

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All he said was: "Come to Abidjan, Alex. You will not be disappointed." Ordinarily, when a footballer tells you to jump on a plane and travel thousands of miles to West Africa for an interview, you tend to hesitate. But then Didier Drogba is no ordinary footballer and, as it turned out, this was to be no ordinary interview.

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As soon as I landed in the capital of Drogba's native Ivory Coast, it immediately became apparent just how big a star he was. Almost every street corner housed a giant billboard on which the Chelsea striker advertised everything from chocolate to mobile phones.


It was clear that Drogba was the face of his country; the symbol of a new, post-civil war Ivory Coast. What was yet to emerge, however, was his pivotal role in bringing about that peace.

Civil war had been raging for five years when, moments after leading his nation to the 2006 World Cup finals in Germany back in October 2005, Drogba picked up a microphone in the dressing room and, surrounded by his team-mates, fell to his knees live on national television. He begged both warring factions to lay down their arms and, within a week, his bold wish had been granted. "It was just something I did instinctively," he explained. "All the players hated what was happening to our country and reaching the World Cup was the perfect emotional wave on which to ride."

The culmination of the peace process came on the second day of my trip, when the White Elephants played an African Nations Cup qualifier against Madagascar in Bouake, the old rebel stronghold about 300 kilometres north of Abidjan.

"Seeing both leaders side by side for the national anthems was very special," Didier said. "I felt then that that the Ivory Coast was born again."

I had been totally unaware of Didier's incredible feat until I began talking to people in Abidjan. At no point had he mentioned, let alone boasted, about his political involvement. I wondered why he had not spoken about this before, especially when the British press had been on his back? "I don't feel I need to say anything to anybody about who I am in Africa," Drogba replied. "I know what I stand for and that is all that matters."

Had he not, though, sometimes wanted to bite back when his integrity on the field had been called into question? "Honestly," he said, "it doesn't bother me what I get accused of. The people who mean most to me know what I am really about."

Many footballers have used their influence to great effect in recent years, whether by putting their name to an inner city project or sponsoring a charity, but none has ever stopped a country tearing itself apart. Truth be told, no other player could. Drogba is a god to the Ivorian people, not just because he is a famous footballer, but also because he is someone who speaks for the masses. He is in tune with the average Ivorian. "Of course," he said, "because above all I am one of them."

On the way to the house where he grew up in the suburbs of Abidjan, he told me that he could cope without money; that he could easily give up all the trappings of wealth and return to a humble life back home. Before my trip, I would have doubted him. But today I am sure he was being truthful.

Of course Drogba enjoys his lifestyle, but that does not mean he is detached from the world around him. "The money came after my education," he said, "after I became a man."

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When standing on the balcony of his ancestral home, looking down on the thousands of cheering locals who had assembled as soon as word got out that he was in the village, Didier looked visibly moved. "There are no words to express how I feel right now," he said. "This is love."

However, he did manage to describe his emotions after the ceasefire agreement. "I have won many trophies in my time," he explained, "but nothing will ever top helping win the battle for peace in my country. I am so proud because today in the Ivory Coast we do not need a piece of silverware to celebrate."


I was aware of the story, just a bit sceptical, there doesn't seem much evidence to back up these statements barring one obviously impressed journalist
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2009, 06:32:16 PM

I was aware of the story, just a bit sceptical, there doesn't seem much evidence to back up these statements barring one obviously impressed journalist
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One obviously impressed journalist, several other impressed journalists..... and also a film about it! There is a fair bit of evidence I'd suggest.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 16, 2009, 07:45:22 PM
Tom Taiwo is good news for Carlisle United


Sometimes you reach the end of a week aching to thump the drum about some inadequacy or imperfection at Brunton Park.

Other times – not every week, granted – all you see is positivity and light.

Tom Taiwo is a Good News Story that deserves its space to breathe alongside all those recent bulletins on boardroom strife and inconsistency on the pitch.

Laying down a few words of appreciation for Carlisle United's admirable young midfielder needn't keep scrutiny's torch off Brunton Park's high command forever.

Belting out the praises of the 19-year-old Chelsea loanee isn't the same as inserting fingers into ears and whistling past the more serious, sober issues to be confronted down Warwick Road, such as the Blues' financial plight and their screaming need for fresh investment.

Those matters remain well up the agenda. For one week, however, where is the harm in throwing some light on a happier story, in stacking up a few more encouraging headlines where they are unquestionably due?

In a few short minutes on Saltergate's greased turf on Tuesday night, Taiwo helped rebuild the connection between fellow professionals which many of us presumed had been broken badly by widespread diving and the waving of imaginary cards.

It turns out that mutual respect and concern have not bolted completely, and for that we can thank Taiwo, and the account of his actions in United's Johnstone's Paint Trophy tie at Chesterfield relayed to this paper by Neil Dalton, Carlisle's physio.

To recap: Taiwo was left in a tangle of limbs with the Spireites winger Gregor Robertson after a 20th minute challenge, which delivered a regrettable double leg-break to his rival (the collision was entirely accidental, it should be added).

Instead of levering himself away from the scene, the teenager immediately recognised Robertson's plight and remained sensibly still, even offering the Chesterfield man his hand to squeeze as paramedics eventually performed the excruciating task of manoeuvring Robertson onto a stretcher and off the pitch.

This, said Dalton, almost certainly helped prevent an even more grievous injury to Robertson, who is recovering in hospital and underwent surgery on Wednesday.

A career-threatening injury was duly averted. An even bleaker scenario might have led to amputation, had Taiwo scarpered upon impact and exposed Robertson's injured leg to potentially-damaging movement. "Tom gave Robertson all the help in the world in a very difficult situation," confirmed Dalton, whose own role in assisting the stricken Spireite shouldn't be ignored in his entirely decent rush to praise others.

Robertson's father contacted United this week to applaud Taiwo, whose maturity beyond his years has popped up in other circumstances this campaign – and I'm not just talking about his endlessly impressive contributions on the grass for Greg Abbott's team.

It isn't news to report that Taiwo is one of the players of Carlisle's season for the aggressive purpose of his midfield performances since his summer arrival from Stamford Bridge.

It is more revealing, in fact, to observe his conduct at those times when he isn't kicking a ball. For example, I have sat through no more heartening press conference this season than the one given by Taiwo on the eve of Carlisle's trip to Leeds on September 29.

During the standard pre-match inquisition, I pitched what I thought was a selection of testing questions to Taiwo about his relationship with the club he left under a controversial cloud – and in particular with their hyper-critical chairman Ken Bates, who has repeatedly aimed poison darts Taiwo's way regarding his decision to quit Leeds for Chelsea in 2006.

Many players – most, I suggest – would have swerved that line of inquiry. At best you would have expected a few evasive answers, a nervous selection of non-quotes designed to dilute the story. Instead, Taiwo took on the bearded overlord of Elland Road, firmly but respectfully, and left you cheering his nerve and his eloquence.

That he followed up his measured salvo at Bates with an influential performance in United's 1-1 draw at Leeds the next day was important, too, as the need to match words with deeds must always prevail in football's modern age of hype and spin.

All I'm doing here, you might argue, is hurling garlands at someone for behaving decently and speaking honestly. Fair enough: we shouldn't get too lyrical about footballers just because they act like civilised human beings.

But my response is to suggest that any act of selflessness in a cynical sporting era, and any athlete who speaks his mind instead of succumbing to media-trained platitudes, is more than deserving of a place in our pages.

Tom Taiwo is a young man of considerable local profile who did his profession some service this week. My advice to football's jaded followers is to stop watching reruns of David Ngog falling over thin air, briefly drop the eyes a couple of divisions and observe a 19-year-old showing a more reputable way.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TheGreatRambo on November 16, 2009, 07:57:44 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 16, 2009, 07:45:22 PM
Tom Taiwo is good news for Carlisle United


Sometimes you reach the end of a week aching to thump the drum about some inadequacy or imperfection at Brunton Park.

Other times – not every week, granted – all you see is positivity and light.

Tom Taiwo is a Good News Story that deserves its space to breathe alongside all those recent bulletins on boardroom strife and inconsistency on the pitch.

Laying down a few words of appreciation for Carlisle United's admirable young midfielder needn't keep scrutiny's torch off Brunton Park's high command forever.

Belting out the praises of the 19-year-old Chelsea loanee isn't the same as inserting fingers into ears and whistling past the more serious, sober issues to be confronted down Warwick Road, such as the Blues' financial plight and their screaming need for fresh investment.

Those matters remain well up the agenda. For one week, however, where is the harm in throwing some light on a happier story, in stacking up a few more encouraging headlines where they are unquestionably due?

In a few short minutes on Saltergate's greased turf on Tuesday night, Taiwo helped rebuild the connection between fellow professionals which many of us presumed had been broken badly by widespread diving and the waving of imaginary cards.

It turns out that mutual respect and concern have not bolted completely, and for that we can thank Taiwo, and the account of his actions in United's Johnstone's Paint Trophy tie at Chesterfield relayed to this paper by Neil Dalton, Carlisle's physio.

To recap: Taiwo was left in a tangle of limbs with the Spireites winger Gregor Robertson after a 20th minute challenge, which delivered a regrettable double leg-break to his rival (the collision was entirely accidental, it should be added).

Instead of levering himself away from the scene, the teenager immediately recognised Robertson's plight and remained sensibly still, even offering the Chesterfield man his hand to squeeze as paramedics eventually performed the excruciating task of manoeuvring Robertson onto a stretcher and off the pitch.

This, said Dalton, almost certainly helped prevent an even more grievous injury to Robertson, who is recovering in hospital and underwent surgery on Wednesday.

A career-threatening injury was duly averted. An even bleaker scenario might have led to amputation, had Taiwo scarpered upon impact and exposed Robertson's injured leg to potentially-damaging movement. "Tom gave Robertson all the help in the world in a very difficult situation," confirmed Dalton, whose own role in assisting the stricken Spireite shouldn't be ignored in his entirely decent rush to praise others.

Robertson's father contacted United this week to applaud Taiwo, whose maturity beyond his years has popped up in other circumstances this campaign – and I'm not just talking about his endlessly impressive contributions on the grass for Greg Abbott's team.

It isn't news to report that Taiwo is one of the players of Carlisle's season for the aggressive purpose of his midfield performances since his summer arrival from Stamford Bridge.

It is more revealing, in fact, to observe his conduct at those times when he isn't kicking a ball. For example, I have sat through no more heartening press conference this season than the one given by Taiwo on the eve of Carlisle's trip to Leeds on September 29.

During the standard pre-match inquisition, I pitched what I thought was a selection of testing questions to Taiwo about his relationship with the club he left under a controversial cloud – and in particular with their hyper-critical chairman Ken Bates, who has repeatedly aimed poison darts Taiwo's way regarding his decision to quit Leeds for Chelsea in 2006.

Many players – most, I suggest – would have swerved that line of inquiry. At best you would have expected a few evasive answers, a nervous selection of non-quotes designed to dilute the story. Instead, Taiwo took on the bearded overlord of Elland Road, firmly but respectfully, and left you cheering his nerve and his eloquence.

That he followed up his measured salvo at Bates with an influential performance in United's 1-1 draw at Leeds the next day was important, too, as the need to match words with deeds must always prevail in football's modern age of hype and spin.

All I'm doing here, you might argue, is hurling garlands at someone for behaving decently and speaking honestly. Fair enough: we shouldn't get too lyrical about footballers just because they act like civilised human beings.

But my response is to suggest that any act of selflessness in a cynical sporting era, and any athlete who speaks his mind instead of succumbing to media-trained platitudes, is more than deserving of a place in our pages.

Tom Taiwo is a young man of considerable local profile who did his profession some service this week. My advice to football's jaded followers is to stop watching reruns of David Ngog falling over thin air, briefly drop the eyes a couple of divisions and observe a 19-year-old showing a more reputable way.

A great article about a genuinely good deed, let down by a cheap shot at the premiership in the last two lines. I'm sure falling over and winning dubious penalties is just as prevalent in the lower leagues
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on November 16, 2009, 08:09:46 PM
Quote from: TheGreatRambo on November 16, 2009, 07:57:44 PM
A great article about a genuinely good deed, let down by a cheap shot at the premiership in the last two lines. I'm sure falling over and winning dubious penalties is just as prevalent in the lower leagues

I think the article isnt saying that diving to win penalties just only happens in the premier league. Its more saying that a good deed like this has gone unnoticed, whereas if it happened in the Premier League, it would have got more coverage, similar to the N'Gog incident. The same incident wouldn't have got as much coverage had it happened in a game between Carlisle and Chesterfield.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 19, 2009, 12:21:40 PM
Just wondering do Chelsea have more players going to the World Cup than any other team?

19

Portugal- Hilario, Deco, Carvalho, Fererria, Bosingwa
Germany- Ballack
England- Ashley Cole, Joe Cole, JT, Lamps
Ghana- Essien
Serbia- Ivanovic
Ivory Coast- Kalou, Drogba
Nigeria- Obi Mikel
France-Anelka, Malouda
Brazil- Alex
Slovakia- Stoch
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 21, 2009, 02:01:34 AM
Quote from: AFS on November 14, 2009, 06:00:45 PM
I'd have my doubts that he's that seriously injured. Could be very likely that he just didn't fancy a trip to the Ivory Coast to play in a dead rubber.

Looks like another 'dead rubber' for Drogba tomorrow as he will miss tomorrow's game v Wolves, after the injury sustained via the boot of Johnny Evans.
Bit of a mini crisis at SB this weekend, with Drogba, Lampard, Ballack, Bosingwa and Deco all missing along with late tests for Ashley Cole, Zhirkov, and JT.

With that in mind Gael Kakuta, Borini and Nemaja Matic all added to the squad. Kakuta is the one that everyone has been raving about in the youth/ reserves the last few years so it'll be good to see him. However the UEFA controversy will add some pressure to his shoulders.

The aul fella supports Wolves so I daren't lose this one!   :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Never beat the deeler on November 21, 2009, 04:31:36 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 21, 2009, 02:01:34 AM
Quote from: AFS on November 14, 2009, 06:00:45 PM
I'd have my doubts that he's that seriously injured. Could be very likely that he just didn't fancy a trip to the Ivory Coast to play in a dead rubber.

Looks like another 'dead rubber' for Drogba tomorrow as he will miss tomorrow's game v Wolves, after the injury sustained via the boot of Johnny Evans.
Bit of a mini crisis at SB this weekend, with Drogba, Lampard, Ballack, Bosingwa and Deco all missing along with late tests for Ashley Cole, Zhirkov, and JT.

With that in mind Gael Kakuta, Borini and Nemaja Matic all added to the squad. Kakuta is the one that everyone has been raving about in the youth/ reserves the last few years so it'll be good to see him. However the UEFA controversy will add some pressure to his shoulders.

The aul fella supports Wolves so I daren't lose this one!    :o

You're taking the 'we' thing a step too far... How exactly are you going to affect the outcome  ???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 21, 2009, 08:41:46 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on November 21, 2009, 04:31:36 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 21, 2009, 02:01:34 AM
Quote from: AFS on November 14, 2009, 06:00:45 PM
I'd have my doubts that he's that seriously injured. Could be very likely that he just didn't fancy a trip to the Ivory Coast to play in a dead rubber.

Looks like another 'dead rubber' for Drogba tomorrow as he will miss tomorrow's game v Wolves, after the injury sustained via the boot of Johnny Evans.
Bit of a mini crisis at SB this weekend, with Drogba, Lampard, Ballack, Bosingwa and Deco all missing along with late tests for Ashley Cole, Zhirkov, and JT.

With that in mind Gael Kakuta, Borini and Nemaja Matic all added to the squad. Kakuta is the one that everyone has been raving about in the youth/ reserves the last few years so it'll be good to see him. However the UEFA controversy will add some pressure to his shoulders.

The aul fella supports Wolves so I daren't lose this one!    :o

You're taking the 'we' thing a step too far... How exactly are you going to affect the outcome  ???

Well if a beachball can do it, so can I!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 25, 2009, 09:49:44 AM
For all you first scorer gamblers, Ancellotti has strongly hinted his 11 for tonight.

Cech
Zhirkov
Terry
Carvalho
Ivanovic
Obi
Ballack
Malouda
Deco
Kalou
Anelka
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 25, 2009, 06:47:27 PM
As above bar Drogs for Kalou. Good to see the racial assault on Drogs has not overly affected him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on November 29, 2009, 05:50:10 PM
Great performance from Chelsea today. Look unstopable and Drogba is on fire. He loves scoring against Arsenal too.

I fear for City next weekend given the 2 teams form at the minute.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: slow corner back on November 29, 2009, 07:01:10 PM
Impressive stuff indeed from Chelsea, the form team of the league so far.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 29, 2009, 10:00:15 PM
Our back for were immense, with kudos to Ivanovic. However Terry was unreal IMHO. Anelka's work rate too is fantastic at the minute and allows Drogba the room to do the Drogba think!

Long way to go.

As a negative aside. This season we have seen a player struck by a missle at OT, a fan try to attack Bellamy at OT, and today a missle almost hitting Frank Lampard. As of yet little action or condemnation.

Last season a fan throw a flag onto the SB pitch at the end of a game (Not at anyone), and Chelsea were fined £100,000. Why the differance?

Anyhow.... onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on November 30, 2009, 09:23:30 AM
Twas like St Gall's v The Loup!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TheGreatRambo on November 30, 2009, 12:04:57 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 29, 2009, 10:00:15 PM
Our back for were immense, with kudos to Ivanovic. However Terry was unreal IMHO. Anelka's work rate too is fantastic at the minute and allows Drogba the room to do the Drogba think!

Long way to go.

As a negative aside. This season we have seen a player struck by a missle at OT, a fan try to attack Bellamy at OT, and today a missle almost hitting Frank Lampard. As of yet little action or condemnation.

Last season a fan throw a flag onto the SB pitch at the end of a game (Not at anyone), and Chelsea were fined £100,000. Why the differance?

Anyhow.... onwards and upwards.

I think u'll find that Bellamy attacks fan would have been closer to the truth
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 30, 2009, 01:04:30 PM
Quote from: TheGreatRambo on November 30, 2009, 12:04:57 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 29, 2009, 10:00:15 PM
Our back for were immense, with kudos to Ivanovic. However Terry was unreal IMHO. Anelka's work rate too is fantastic at the minute and allows Drogba the room to do the Drogba think!

Long way to go.

As a negative aside. This season we have seen a player struck by a missle at OT, a fan try to attack Bellamy at OT, and today a missle almost hitting Frank Lampard. As of yet little action or condemnation.

Last season a fan throw a flag onto the SB pitch at the end of a game (Not at anyone), and Chelsea were fined £100,000. Why the differance?

Anyhow.... onwards and upwards.

I think u'll find that Bellamy attacks fan would have been closer to the truth

No it wasn't.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 02, 2009, 10:41:39 PM
In penalties now. Chelsea scored at the death with a mistake from Robinson.

1-0 in shootout, Ballack missed
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 02, 2009, 10:42:56 PM
2-1 - Emerton and Drogba
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 02, 2009, 10:44:08 PM
3-2 - Grella and Malouda
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 02, 2009, 10:45:33 PM
3-3 Hilario saved Kalinic's penalty, Zhirkov scored.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 02, 2009, 10:46:34 PM
4-3 Hoilett scored for Blackburn, Kakuta missed for Chelsea. Blackburn through.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 03, 2009, 03:07:40 AM
A few mistakes by the gaffer tonight, and a bit unlucky. The starting XI was asking for trouble. Ferreria at centre back was always going to be nervy, espcially with the lack of first time back up around him. A strange choice with Bruma and Hutchinson available at CB.

Upfront, Kalou, Deco, Malouda and Joe Cole. Hmmmm. A bit light weight for Blackburn away.

So the Italiano makes 3 Joséesque changes at HT. They were the right switches but it's a massive risk making all your subs with extra time a possability. So it came to pass that Kalou gets injured and it's 10 v 11 for the last hour.

It was good to see the side battling, and getting the reward with a rare Paulo Ferreria last minute goal.

However I'd love to see the referee's assesment for tonight. Twice Blackburn players dived (Emerton's particularly embarassing), and although he didn't buy the dives, he didn't book the offenders. Ballack is quite clearly rugby tackled in the box, and he gives no penalty, Grella spends all evening kicking everything that moves, and after the umptenth challange eventually gets booked, and Drogba had a big penalty claim turned down.

I thought the ref officiated like it was a friendly game.

The big bonuses were Kakuta and especially Bruma's performances. I could nearly guarantee that these two will make the step up into regular first team football. I have seen Bruma once or twice, and he has looked the part. According to more regular observers, he is miles ahead of John Terry at this age. Hgh praise indeed.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on December 03, 2009, 09:19:30 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 03, 2009, 03:07:40 AM
A few mistakes by the gaffer tonight, and a bit unlucky. The starting XI was asking for trouble. Ferreria at centre back was always going to be nervy, espcially with the lack of first time back up around him. A strange choice with Bruma and Hutchinson available at CB.

Upfront, Kalou, Deco, Malouda and Joe Cole. Hmmmm. A bit light weight for Blackburn away.

So the Italiano makes 3 Joséesque changes at HT. They were the right switches but it's a massive risk making all your subs with extra time a possability. So it came to pass that Kalou gets injured and it's 10 v 11 for the last hour.

It was good to see the side battling, and getting the reward with a rare Paulo Ferreria last minute goal.

However I'd love to see the referee's assesment for tonight. Twice Blackburn players dived (Emerton's particularly embarassing), and although he didn't buy the dives, he didn't book the offenders. Ballack is quite clearly rugby tackled in the box, and he gives no penalty, Grella spends all evening kicking everything that moves, and after the umptenth challange eventually gets booked, and Drogba had a big penalty claim turned down.

I thought the ref officiated like it was a friendly game.

The big bonuses were Kakuta and especially Bruma's performances. I could nearly guarantee that these two will make the step up into regular first team football. I have seen Bruma once or twice, and he has looked the part. According to more regular observers, he is miles ahead of John Terry at this age. Hgh praise indeed.

Now I will be the first to admit that Chelsea fans are on rocky ground when it comes to discussing diving :-[ but this is a more general point about referees' consistency.  Let's say player A puts in a big dive and the ref doesn't buy it.  AFAIK that is a yellow card offense.  So if the ref doesn't give the pen/free there is a fair chance he thinks the player dived esp. if he appeals for a pen/free...so yellow card?  If the aim is to cut out diving shouldn't refs be showing cards for this more often??

On a related point Drogba for the most part is staying on his feet this year and for me he is the Player of the Season so far.  He must have read my post after the Barcelona game ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: screenexile on December 03, 2009, 09:41:47 AM
Meh I dunno about the diving thing... for me it's VERY hard to prove at times (Eduardo got his charge overturned during the year) and unless someone goes down and looks for a free/penalty I would generally give them the benefit of the doubt and not book them.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 03, 2009, 11:08:04 AM
QuoteNow I will be the first to admit that Chelsea fans are on rocky ground when it comes to discussing diving :-[ but this is a more general point about referees' consistency.  On Sunday Vela put in a big dive, the ref didn't buy it.

He didn't book anyone for diving on Sunday so he was consistent, stupid comment now if you made the point that he should booked Cole for his blatent jersey pull after only minutes before booking Traore for a less blatent pull well then you might have had a case.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 03, 2009, 12:22:42 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 03, 2009, 11:08:04 AM
QuoteNow I will be the first to admit that Chelsea fans are on rocky ground when it comes to discussing diving :-[ but this is a more general point about referees' consistency.  On Sunday Vela put in a big dive, the ref didn't buy it.

He didn't book anyone for diving on Sunday so he was consistent, stupid comment now if you made the point that he should booked Cole for his blatent jersey pull after only minutes before booking Traore for a less blatent pull well then you might have had a case.

Now no whataboutery Dinny. Sure if Sagny was sent off -as he should've been- after ten minutes etc etc.

Ignore the Vela incident then, and deal with AMQP's point on the whole. I have noticed that refs are very reticent to book people for diving this year. Emerton's example last night being a great example.

As for AMQP's point on Drogba. Totally agree. He has definately curbed his tendancies this season, and long may it last. Also did anyone notice the Ivorian controlling a pass with his arm on Sunday. He immediately stopped, pointed to this arm, making a decision easy for the ref. A different breed altogether!

I'll put my neck on the line and say that Drogba is the best player in the world at the minute.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on December 03, 2009, 12:56:06 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 03, 2009, 11:08:04 AM
QuoteNow I will be the first to admit that Chelsea fans are on rocky ground when it comes to discussing diving :-[ but this is a more general point about referees' consistency.  On Sunday Vela put in a big dive, the ref didn't buy it.

He didn't book anyone for diving on Sunday so he was consistent, stupid comment now if you made the point that he should booked Cole for his blatent jersey pull after only minutes before booking Traore for a less blatent pull well then you might have had a case.

FFS did you read the whole post?  Was I talking about shirt pulling??  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on December 03, 2009, 12:57:42 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 03, 2009, 12:22:42 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 03, 2009, 11:08:04 AM
QuoteNow I will be the first to admit that Chelsea fans are on rocky ground when it comes to discussing diving :-[ but this is a more general point about referees' consistency.  On Sunday Vela put in a big dive, the ref didn't buy it.

He didn't book anyone for diving on Sunday so he was consistent, stupid comment now if you made the point that he should booked Cole for his blatent jersey pull after only minutes before booking Traore for a less blatent pull well then you might have had a case.

Now no whataboutery Dinny. Sure if Sagny was sent off -as he should've been- after ten minutes etc etc.

Ignore the Vela incident then, and deal with AMQP's point on the whole. I have noticed that refs are very reticent to book people for diving this year. Emerton's example last night being a great example.

As for AMQP's point on Drogba. Totally agree. He has definately curbed his tendancies this season, and long may it last. Also did anyone notice the Ivorian controlling a pass with his arm on Sunday. He immediately stopped, pointed to this arm, making a decision easy for the ref. A different breed altogether!

I'll put my neck on the line and say that Drogba is the best player in the world at the minute.

Prepare to feel the axe NT!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 03, 2009, 01:10:03 PM
QuoteFFS did you read the whole post?  Was I talking about shirt pulling?? 

No you were talking about diving and singled out an Arsenal player, Drogba, Cole and Lampard all went down just as easily as Vela, Nasri etc, if you want to make a point be objective and not myopic.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 03, 2009, 01:15:49 PM
QuoteIgnore the Vela incident then, and deal with AMQP's point on the whole. I have noticed that refs are very reticent to book people for diving this year. Emerton's example last night being a great example.

I'm not going to defend referee's other than every decision they get wrong is put under the microscope, how foolish would they look if they booked a player for diving and there was actually contact. The players have to bear responsibility for their actions and Drogba (self-confessed fan) as amended his ways as has Eboue (self-confessed not a fan). Did Vela dive? probably but there is the doubt that maybe he didn't and I understand why refs don't.

If you igone the persecution complex on this thread this and the Gooners are the two most rationale threads regarding the premiership.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on December 03, 2009, 02:13:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 03, 2009, 01:10:03 PM
QuoteFFS did you read the whole post?  Was I talking about shirt pulling?? 

No you were talking about diving and singled out an Arsenal player, Drogba, Cole and Lampard all went down just as easily as Vela, Nasri etc, if you want to make a point be objective and not myopic.

Impossible Dinny...unfortunately I've worn glasses since I was seven!  I wasn't trying to single out Vela or Arsenal, every team has its divers and I've been on record criticising Drogba and other Chelsea players and I've amended my original post.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on December 03, 2009, 02:17:49 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 03, 2009, 01:15:49 PM
QuoteIgnore the Vela incident then, and deal with AMQP's point on the whole. I have noticed that refs are very reticent to book people for diving this year. Emerton's example last night being a great example.

I'm not going to defend referee's other than every decision they get wrong is put under the microscope, how foolish would they look if they booked a player for diving and there was actually contact. The players have to bear responsibility for their actions and Drogba (self-confessed fan) as amended his ways as has Eboue (self-confessed not a fan). Did Vela dive? probably but there is the doubt that maybe he didn't and I understand why refs don't.

If you igone the persecution complex on this thread this and the Gooners are the two most rationale threads regarding the premiership.

If a player makes "contact" with another player it does not automatically mean it is a foul.  Otherwise you would not be allowed to tackle.  I agree some people esp in FIFA would like to see soccer become a non-contact sport.  If that's what they want try netball
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 03, 2009, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 03, 2009, 01:15:49 PM
QuoteIgnore the Vela incident then, and deal with AMQP's point on the whole. I have noticed that refs are very reticent to book people for diving this year. Emerton's example last night being a great example.

I'm not going to defend referee's other than every decision they get wrong is put under the microscope, how foolish would they look if they booked a player for diving and there was actually contact. The players have to bear responsibility for their actions and Drogba (self-confessed fan) as amended his ways as has Eboue (self-confessed not a fan). Did Vela dive? probably but there is the doubt that maybe he didn't and I understand why refs don't.

If you igone the persecution complex on this thread this and the Gooners are the two most rationale threads regarding the premiership.

What the f**k would I talk about then??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 03, 2009, 03:23:18 PM
In fairness AQMP I agree with what you say, I just didn't think you needed to single a young lad like Vela especially in a game where Chelsea won 3-0.

If you want to talk persecution Arsenal are the most fouled team in the Premiership yet have the highest cards to the number of fouls commited ratio, work that one out.

An NT after last years CL semi, your paranoia might have some substance  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 06, 2009, 01:12:08 AM
A bit of reality biting now. I think today's result will suggest that Chelsea are not quite ready to streak clear in the Premiership, but at the same time not ready to drop out of the top four. Still think we will be there or thereabouts.

I was a bit 'concerned' when I seen our midfield today. Essien, Lampard, Ballack and Deco lacks pace and legs when played in the way they lined out. In truth they were over run for a fair portion of the game, with a special nod to the excellent Nigel De Jong. Wright Phillips also had a decent outing.

Lampard's poor form continues. However I still think CA should continue to name him, to play him through his dip. To do this though he needs Essien in the engine room alongside him, and I'd suggest Malouda at the tip for that wee bit of pace, and energy. Mikel or even Ballack behind to do the holding role. It was also a rare off day for Drogba and Anelka.

Chelsea though arguably deserved a point with the stats even pointing to Chelsea edging the shot and posession stats.

I am trying not to get into a rant about the ref today, but he was shocking. I'll not even list the decisions he got wrong, but he spent a good 60 seconds telling the City players to stay out of the box for the penalty kick- as Lampard waited- and then let Given come 4 yards off his line to save, and De Jong- inside the box when kick was taken- clears.

The ref's performance really frustrated the Chelsea players, and Chelsea's 6 yellows for 17 fouls, to City's 1 yellow for 14 fouls echoes that.

Long way to go, but if I was offered 15 points out of 18 from games that included United (H), City (A) and Arsenal (A) I'd have taken it.

The last time City beat Chelsea, the league went to SW6.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on December 06, 2009, 01:19:52 AM
I have to admit.......

I am 100% behind Chelsea this season in their quest for the EPL.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 06, 2009, 03:14:16 AM
Ah come on now Norf Tyrone, City deserved that win today. Most of Chelsea's bookings were deserved today and Belletti was lucky he wasn't sent off, shocking tackle and alot of dissent. Who cares about players in the box before the pen, matters none as Given saved it and he was never 4 yards off the line. City had no luck in the games before this so they got the luck today. That's football. As Ancelotti said, Chelsea are still top so don't worry about it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 06, 2009, 12:30:04 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 06, 2009, 03:14:16 AM
Ah come on now Norf Tyrone, City deserved that win today. Most of Chelsea's bookings were deserved today and Belletti was lucky he wasn't sent off, shocking tackle and alot of dissent. Who cares about players in the box before the pen, matters none as Given saved it and he was never 4 yards off the line. City had no luck in the games before this so they got the luck today. That's football. As Ancelotti said, Chelsea are still top so don't worry about it.

Credit to City, and they did enough to take the points alright. I thought De Jong was the best player I have seen this year in direct competition to Chelsea.

Chelsea's bookings were bourne of frustration at the referee's performance. Belletti's tackle didn't look that bad in any reply I seen, and it was a genuine 50 50. I can be corrected on that, as the angles that they showed it at were shit.

Watch the penalty again from the moment it was awarded until it was taken. Watch the ref. Watch were Given is, and what Webb is doing at that point, and watch the defenders who clear the ball.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 06, 2009, 01:11:01 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 06, 2009, 12:30:04 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 06, 2009, 03:14:16 AM
Ah come on now Norf Tyrone, City deserved that win today. Most of Chelsea's bookings were deserved today and Belletti was lucky he wasn't sent off, shocking tackle and alot of dissent. Who cares about players in the box before the pen, matters none as Given saved it and he was never 4 yards off the line. City had no luck in the games before this so they got the luck today. That's football. As Ancelotti said, Chelsea are still top so don't worry about it.

Credit to City, and they did enough to take the points alright. I thought De Jong was the best player I have seen this year in direct competition to Chelsea.

Chelsea's bookings were bourne of frustration at the referee's performance. Belletti's tackle didn't look that bad in any reply I seen, and it was a genuine 50 50. I can be corrected on that, as the angles that they showed it at were shit.

Watch the penalty again from the moment it was awarded until it was taken. Watch the ref. Watch were Given is, and what Webb is doing at that point, and watch the defenders who clear the ball.

De Jong was immense. Best performance I have seen in a while. He has been City's best player past few games. He is an absolute animal. Currently best player in that position in the premiership. He's not good at going forward like Essien, but he does a fantastic job between the defence and midfield. SWP also had a great game. Back to his best and was a great battle between him and Cole.

Out of Chelsea's bookings, all were well deserved. Then add in the dissent that Ivanovic, Belletti, Cole showed to the referee and they were lucky they wern't sent off. Belletti's challenge was a 50/50, but you can't dive in like that and expect to get away with it.

Yes there was players in the box when the penalty was taken, happens all the time and will happen again. Given was at most 1 yard of the line, what other keeper doesn't do the same?

What about the "corner" in the lead up to Chelsea's goal?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on December 06, 2009, 02:11:31 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 06, 2009, 01:12:08 AM
A bit of reality biting now. I think today's result will suggest that Chelsea are not quite ready to streak clear in the Premiership, but at the same time not ready to drop out of the top four. Still think we will be there or thereabouts.

I was a bit 'concerned' when I seen our midfield today. Essien, Lampard, Ballack and Deco lacks pace and legs when played in the way they lined out. In truth they were over run for a fair portion of the game, with a special nod to the excellent Nigel De Jong. Wright Phillips also had a decent outing.

Lampard's poor form continues. However I still think CA should continue to name him, to play him through his dip. To do this though he needs Essien in the engine room alongside him, and I'd suggest Malouda at the tip for that wee bit of pace, and energy. Mikel or even Ballack behind to do the holding role. It was also a rare off day for Drogba and Anelka.

Chelsea though arguably deserved a point with the stats even pointing to Chelsea edging the shot and posession stats.

I am trying not to get into a rant about the ref today, but he was shocking. I'll not even list the decisions he got wrong, but he spent a good 60 seconds telling the City players to stay out of the box for the penalty kick- as Lampard waited- and then let Given come 4 yards off his line to save, and De Jong- inside the box when kick was taken- clears.

The ref's performance really frustrated the Chelsea players, and Chelsea's 6 yellows for 17 fouls, to City's 1 yellow for 14 fouls echoes that.

Long way to go, but if I was offered 15 points out of 18 from games that included United (H), City (A) and Arsenal (A) I'd have taken it.

The last time City beat Chelsea, the league went to SW6.

hmm interesting comments coming from you, did you really believe Chelsea would streak clear in the Premiership v a man united team that has won 3 titles in a row? but i still believe it's a two horse race! but this season will by the lowest points total for sometime with the league winners losing 5/6 games

Alan Hansen on the Match of the day blame Petr cech for the three league defeats so far ::) when we lost our 3rd game of the season to Chelsea, Hansen said to many to win the premiership ::)

looking at the upcoming fixture lists for both Chelsea & man united i will be expecting them to both streak clear of the rest ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 06, 2009, 11:01:36 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 06, 2009, 12:30:04 PM
Watch the penalty again from the moment it was awarded until it was taken. Watch the ref. Watch were Given is, and what Webb is doing at that point, and watch the defenders who clear the ball.

Watched it again there on MOTD 2. There was 2 City players and 1 Chelsea player just in the box as Lampard was hitting the penalty. Given was 1 yard off his line. Lescott, who cleared the ball after the save, was outisde the D when the penalty was being taken. See image below  ;) (quality isn't the best though)

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2vuzlte.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 07, 2009, 01:25:55 AM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 06, 2009, 11:01:36 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 06, 2009, 12:30:04 PM
Watch the penalty again from the moment it was awarded until it was taken. Watch the ref. Watch were Given is, and what Webb is doing at that point, and watch the defenders who clear the ball.

Watched it again there on MOTD 2. There was 2 City players and 1 Chelsea player just in the box as Lampard was hitting the penalty. Given was 1 yard off his line. Lescott, who cleared the ball after the save, was outisde the D when the penalty was being taken. See image below  ;) (quality isn't the best though)

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2vuzlte.jpg)

As you can see there are 4 City players inside the box, and Given is 1 yard off his line. Note that Lampard still has not taken the kick.

Lescott was inside the box as can be seen clearly from the kick along with who I think is Touré, De Jong and someone else who is being obscured by Deco.

Good man Archie for posting an image to back me up.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 07, 2009, 01:27:50 AM
Quote from: ross4life on December 06, 2009, 02:11:31 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 06, 2009, 01:12:08 AM
A bit of reality biting now. I think today's result will suggest that Chelsea are not quite ready to streak clear in the Premiership, but at the same time not ready to drop out of the top four. Still think we will be there or thereabouts.

I was a bit 'concerned' when I seen our midfield today. Essien, Lampard, Ballack and Deco lacks pace and legs when played in the way they lined out. In truth they were over run for a fair portion of the game, with a special nod to the excellent Nigel De Jong. Wright Phillips also had a decent outing.

Lampard's poor form continues. However I still think CA should continue to name him, to play him through his dip. To do this though he needs Essien in the engine room alongside him, and I'd suggest Malouda at the tip for that wee bit of pace, and energy. Mikel or even Ballack behind to do the holding role. It was also a rare off day for Drogba and Anelka.

Chelsea though arguably deserved a point with the stats even pointing to Chelsea edging the shot and posession stats.

I am trying not to get into a rant about the ref today, but he was shocking. I'll not even list the decisions he got wrong, but he spent a good 60 seconds telling the City players to stay out of the box for the penalty kick- as Lampard waited- and then let Given come 4 yards off his line to save, and De Jong- inside the box when kick was taken- clears.

The ref's performance really frustrated the Chelsea players, and Chelsea's 6 yellows for 17 fouls, to City's 1 yellow for 14 fouls echoes that.

Long way to go, but if I was offered 15 points out of 18 from games that included United (H), City (A) and Arsenal (A) I'd have taken it.

The last time City beat Chelsea, the league went to SW6.

hmm interesting comments coming from you, did you really believe Chelsea would streak clear in the Premiership v a man united team that has won 3 titles in a row? but i still believe it's a two horse race! but this season will by the lowest points total for sometime with the league winners losing 5/6 games

Alan Hansen on the Match of the day blame Petr cech for the three league defeats so far ::) when we lost our 3rd game of the season to Chelsea, Hansen said to many to win the premiership ::)

looking at the upcoming fixture lists for both Chelsea & man united i will be expecting them to both streak clear of the rest ;)

I never said that Chelsea would streak clear. I was refering to posters on here and the media who tend to get carried away when a team puts together a few wins. Typical media stuff really.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 07, 2009, 08:02:39 AM
QuoteGood man Archie for posting an image to back me up.

School boy error  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 07, 2009, 08:20:20 AM
Sorry for not getting the picture right when Lampard struck the ball. All of a few milliseconds too early. Lescott (who cleared the ball, not De Jong) is just about to enter the D, when the ball is struck. I forgot about Toure but he's not technically in the box, but still technically a foul. So Given isn't the 4 yards off his line that you were claiming then? And Deco is also in the box so both teams where as guilty. Would the penalty have been retaken if Lampard scored and Deco was in the box before it was taken? I don't think so.

Nothing school boy about it Dinny, what's school boy is not having the decency and courtesy to shake a fellow managers hand after a game.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 07, 2009, 08:45:32 AM
QuoteNothing school boy about it Dinny, what's school boy is not having the decency and courtesy to shake a fellow managers hand after a game.

Build a bridge lad, build a bridge. Nobody cares.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 07, 2009, 08:53:51 AM
I care.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: EC Unique on December 07, 2009, 09:22:54 AM
Quote from: Minder on December 06, 2009, 01:19:52 AM
I have to admit.......

I am 100% behind Chelsea this season in their quest for the EPL.

Suppose you have to jump ship to somebody ::)  Good for you.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 07, 2009, 09:27:30 AM
I still think they will win the league. They were poor on Saturday and City were good. If City were poor as well on Sat then Chelsea likely would have won the game. All teams will have poor games along the season, and this was a kick up the back side that will drive them on, the same way they reacted after the defeat to Aston Villa. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TheGreatRambo on December 07, 2009, 11:03:42 AM
Thought myself that Given was 2/3 yards off the line when I saw it on MOTD, never noticed the players encroaching to be honest. Be a brave referee to allow him take it again though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 07, 2009, 11:01:58 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 07, 2009, 08:20:20 AM
Sorry for not getting the picture right when Lampard struck the ball. All of a few milliseconds too early. Lescott (who cleared the ball, not De Jong) is just about to enter the D, when the ball is struck. I forgot about Toure but he's not technically in the box, but still technically a foul. So Given isn't the 4 yards off his line that you were claiming then? And Deco is also in the box so both teams where as guilty. Would the penalty have been retaken if Lampard scored and Deco was in the box before it was taken? I don't think so.

Nothing school boy about it Dinny, what's school boy is not having the decency and courtesy to shake a fellow managers hand after a game.

Just the six players in the box (Seven adding Deco), and Given at the very least not on his line. I am in joking mode now, but what seriously  gripes me about this is the ref spent at least a minute telling all the City players to stay out of the box, which did not help Lampard. It assisted the offending team. He then ignored the fact that they all came wandering in regardless.

And I know it happens all the time.

I have always had a bee in my bonnet about this, as I have only seen one penalty retaken (I am sure there have been more) for the keeper coming off his line, and that was Cudicini at Anfield a few seasons back.

(http://theshed.chelseafc.com/chat/uploads/142646231.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 08, 2009, 02:22:49 AM
Actually Archie if this man's on my side you're right enough.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1233960/GRAHAM-POLL-Penalty-kickers-raw-deal-referees-allow-likes-Given-Jensen-goal-lines.html?ITO=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1233960/GRAHAM-POLL-Penalty-kickers-raw-deal-referees-allow-likes-Given-Jensen-goal-lines.html?ITO=1490)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on December 08, 2009, 09:31:20 AM
Any truth in the rumour that Shay is offering Chelsea a replay?? ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 08, 2009, 11:12:02 AM
Your photo is inaccurate as the ball has already been struck, therefore your argument is null and void ;) and what would Graham Poll know, he has to book a player 3 times before sending them off!

Yeah I get what your saying, the rules are there but never enforced. Same with the old line "if it happened outside the box it would have been a free kick but doesn't get a foul in the box". Also with all the pushing, shirt pulling etc that goes on in the box for free kicks and corners and no foul given. Seems to be part of the game now unfortunately.

On another note away from the City game, I see Fabregas has come out and said that Chelsea are average without Drogba. Yes Drogba is in good form, but to call that team average is a bit silly of him. What would he call his own side then?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on December 08, 2009, 11:36:24 AM
Unfortunately Senor Fabregas, like his boss,  is well down Dickhead Road.  Shame, as he is a very talented footballer.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 08, 2009, 07:37:35 PM
Strangely strong side tonight. Ancellotti must be determined not to collect 3 defeats on the bounce. Let's hope there are no injuries or yellow cards.

At a glance I'd of given JT a rest for Bruma.

Chelsea: Turnbull, Belletti, Terry, Carvalho, Zhirkov, Mikel, Essien, Joe Cole, Kakuta, Malouda, Drogba.
Subs: Hilario, Ivanovic, Lampard, Anelka, Bruma, Borini, Philliskirk.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: AFS on December 11, 2009, 09:07:03 AM
Chelsea face compensation claim from Dean Ashton for Shaun Wright-Phillips challenge

Dean Ashton is considering suing Chelsea and Shaun Wright-Phillips following the challenge in August 2006 which, he will claim, has ended his football career.

The 26-year-old West Ham United striker is, according to club sources, expected to announce his retirement from football today having failed to recover from the injury sustained during a training session while on England duty.

In an apparently ground-breaking case, Ashton is believed to be investigating whether both Wright-Phillips and his employers at the time, Chelsea, can be the subject of legal action. It may be argued that Chelsea face what is termed a vicarious liability even though the winger was on international duty.

Such a case would undoubtedly be challenged by Chelsea, who would argue that they cannot be held responsible for something that happened while their former player — who is now at Manchester City – was with England and, therefore, under the care of the Football Association. They will, it can be expected, argue that it did not take place during the course of his employment by Chelsea.

At the same time West Ham are to launch a £7 million compensation claim against the FA, which covers the amount Ashton is understood to have been insured for and equates to the fee they initially paid to sign him from Norwich City in January that year. That, too, will undoubtedly be challenged.

Ashton himself, who is just 26, will also receive a pay-off from West Ham of about a year's salary, thought to be £3 million.

Player-on-player claims are a complex area of the law with some insurers refusing to cover clubs for such eventualities. But all such previous cases appear only to have involved players taking part in matches for their clubs.

For example, only last week former Charlton Athletic midfielder Matty Holmes accepted £250,000 in damages following a tackle by Wolves defender Kevin Muscat in 1998.

The biggest award so far to cite the vicarious liability argument was the £909,000 received by Bradford City's Gordon Watson, who had a leg broken in two places in a challenge by Huddersfield Town defender Kevin Gray in 1997.

The injury to Ashton happened at Manchester United's training ground, Carrington, prior to a friendly against Greece when he was due to start for the first time. Indeed the striker had been earmarked by the then head coach, Steve McClaren, as a key figure in England's plans to try to qualify for euro 2008.

The decision for Ashton to retire had been trailed last month, but marks a personal tragedy for a striker whom England manager Fabio Capello had also hoped to include in his squad. The Italian had watched Ashton carefully, in the hope that he would recover, and he even managed to gain an international cap, featuring in the friendly away to Trinidad and Tobago.

However, it will be argued that although Ashton did make a comeback of sorts and played 35 games for West Ham, scoring 11 goals, he never recovered from the original injury.

It ruled him out for 11 months and he has now suffered such degenerative damage that he has no option but to retire from football even though he only signed a five-year contract last year. The key to the success of the expected claims by Ashton — and West Ham — is if they can prove that he never recovered from the ankle problem.

Ashton has not played a senior match in 15 months, after breaking down soon after Gianfranco Zola was appointed manager. Although he is physically fit, he cannot twist or turn or take any impact on the left ankle because the injury is chronic. It is believed he has even been warned he may end up not being able to walk properly unless he retires.

Discussions between Ashton and West Ham have been going on for some time while both parties have been examining the medical reports of the Dutch surgeon, Niek van Dyke, who originally operated on the player and has been fully involved in his attempts to regain fitness. Final tests have taken place in the last few weeks.

An added complication is that the FA beefed up its insurance cover after a dispute with Newcastle United following Michael Owen's injury in the last World Cup but, it is believed, the Ashton claim will be dealt with by the previous company.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/chelsea/6782923/Chelsea-face-compensation-claim-from-Dean-Ashton-for-Shaun-Wright-Phillips-challenge.html
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 11, 2009, 10:05:56 AM
Can't see it happening. Surely he should sue Man U too, as it happened on their property?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Carmen Stateside on December 12, 2009, 04:29:34 PM
3-3 great game so far. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on December 12, 2009, 08:21:39 PM
have just watched the highlights of the everton game! & they got three of the luckest goals your ever likely to see chelsea should be 5 points clear tonight
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
Wouldn't say luck had all to do with it,shocking defending played just as big a part in them goals
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2009, 04:43:54 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
Wouldn't say luck had all to do with it,shocking defending played just as big a part in them goals

It was a bit of both. All three goals were incredibley fortunate, but those things tend to happen when the defence and more importantly the keeper are nervey. I think it's time to get Hilario ot Turnball in for a while. However they too are not 100% reliable.

However for all talk of a 'crisis' that's 1 defeat in 13 for Chelsea, and the lead stretched.

And I'll say it again, I think Drogba is the best player in the world at the minute.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on December 13, 2009, 04:52:33 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2009, 04:43:54 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 13, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
Wouldn't say luck had all to do with it,shocking defending played just as big a part in them goals

It was a bit of both. All three goals were incredibley fortunate, but those things tend to happen when the defence and more importantly the keeper are nervey. I think it's time to get Hilario ot Turnball in for a while. However they too are not 100% reliable.

However for all talk of a 'crisis' that's 1 defeat in 13 for Chelsea, and the lead stretched.

And I'll say it again, I think Drogba is the best player in the world at the minute.

not sure about the best in the world but he's the best player in the premiership at the moment Chelsea will need him to continue this form if they want to win the league

but make no mistake Chelsea are on a bad run now, how can they stop the rot? Answer.......... play Portsmouth at home
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on December 16, 2009, 06:56:23 PM
Carnlough man Brendan Rogers sacked by Reading.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: wallyman on December 16, 2009, 08:56:01 PM
Drawing 1 all at the minute.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Puckoon on December 20, 2009, 05:24:42 PM
3-1 chelsea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: AFS on December 20, 2009, 05:31:17 PM
Awful penalty decision, but they probably should've had one in the first half. Don't fancy West Ham to hold out.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 20, 2009, 06:22:19 PM
How is it West Ham can put it up to the Arse or Chelsea and roll over for Man U  ???

Never seen a penalty taken 3 times, Frank is one cool customer...although never a penalty in the 1st place and both sides had legitimate claims for penalties turned down as well.....Essien's absence is been felt I think and their form has dipped since he was injured...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 20, 2009, 06:51:57 PM
I don't see the sense in re-taking the penalty if it has been scored. Would be different if keeper saved it and one of the players who encroached in the box followed up to clear the ball or score.

Diamanti for West Ham is a good player.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on December 20, 2009, 07:11:57 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 20, 2009, 06:51:57 PM
I don't see the sense in re-taking the penalty if it has been scored. Would be different if keeper saved it and one of the players who encroached in the box followed up to clear the ball or score.

Diamanti for West Ham is a good player.

He sparkled today.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Schkite on December 20, 2009, 07:20:52 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 20, 2009, 06:51:57 PM
I don't see the sense in re-taking the penalty if it has been scored. Would be different if keeper saved it and one of the players who encroached in the box followed up to clear the ball or score.

Diamanti for West Ham is a good player.

Maybe the thinking is that the encroaching players put the keeper off when the player is running up to kick the ball? Bit of a strange decision alright but can't think why else it would be retaken. But yeah, the whole retaking of penalties thing is very inconsistent, whether it be for players encroaching or the keeper being off his line, some refs pull them up on it but most don't.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 20, 2009, 07:23:59 PM
Another jaded performance by the Blues, and as well as a couple of factors, I think the diamond is limiting. West Ham worked hard today, and by stiffling the middle third of the pitch limited Chelsea. When teams do that, you must get wide, but we have no width.

Sure there is Ashley Cole (Who looks like he's carrying a knock) and Ivanovic (An unorthodox right back) but if they are off colour, there is a reliance in barging through the middle, or a spark of genius. The genius is meant to come from Joe Cole. A player so off form it's unreal.

Personally I'd go back to the José/ Guus's formation of 4-3-3. There is Zhirkov to go wide left, or Malouda, and Anelka for wide right. It stretches the game and allows Lampard and Ballack a bit more room.

As for the referee. What a shocker he had today. Chelsea had thee penalty shouts turned down today, and then his assistant gives Chelsea a non penalty, before West Ham have a big shout turned down as well. In the middle of all that he accuses Ballack of diving, when in reality it's a second booking for Noble.

As for his interpretation of Lampard's penalties. Why did he not make Diamantia retake his? After my rant re Lampard's penalty against Man City a few weeks back, it's ironic.

However... as Dinny states great balls from Frank. When you consider he just missed a penalty two weeks back, he's off form, the kick was crucial, he had to take it 3 times AND the Hammers just love our Frank, it showed true guts.

And, despite the poor run, that's the lead stretched.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 20, 2009, 08:05:58 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 29, 2009, 10:00:15 PM
As a negative aside. This season we have seen a player struck by a missle at OT, a fan try to attack Bellamy at OT, and today a missle almost hitting Frank Lampard. As of yet little action or condemnation.

Last season a fan throw a flag onto the SB pitch at the end of a game (Not at anyone), and Chelsea were fined £100,000. Why the differance?


I quoted the above after the Arsenal game a few weeks back, and I still have not heard of Arsenal being punished. I know United got a 'ticking off'.

Will West Ham get any punishment after Lampard was almost struck by a missle today? Camera cuts to the Spammers stewards and they are pishing themselves laughing. Classy.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Doogie Browser on December 21, 2009, 10:08:34 AM
What about that Terry cnut?  Caught by the balls by the News of the World  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 21, 2009, 11:59:16 AM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on December 21, 2009, 10:08:34 AM
What about that Terry cnut?  Caught by the balls by the News of the World  :D

Now I'm no fan of Terry but did he not raise a tidy lump sum for a charity on his own day off, so what if pulled the wool over his employers......a complete non-story...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Doogie Browser on December 21, 2009, 12:00:41 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 21, 2009, 11:59:16 AM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on December 21, 2009, 10:08:34 AM
What about that Terry cnut?  Caught by the balls by the News of the World  :D

Now I'm no fan of Terry but did he not raise a tidy lump sum for a charity on his own day off, so what if pulled the wool over his employers......a complete non-story...
Whats Father Christmas getting you for Christmas Dinny?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on December 21, 2009, 12:37:50 PM
So John Terry takes £8k off those paragons of virtue at the NOTW and gives it to a children's charity?  Fair play to him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 21, 2009, 12:39:42 PM
QuoteWhats Father Christmas getting you for Christmas Dinny?

An apostrophe  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Doogie Browser on December 21, 2009, 12:43:57 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on December 21, 2009, 12:37:50 PM
So John Terry takes £8k off those paragons of virtue at the NOTW and gives it to a children's charity?  Fair play to him.
Aye thats right, you are 100% correct, Terry is blameless in all this.  I would be proud of my captain selling dodgy tours of the training ground for 10k a pop and he decides not to tell his employers out of the goodness of his heart, he is such an altruistic footballer.  Sure he gives his cut to charidee each time.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 21, 2009, 12:39:42 PM
Quote
Whats Father Christmas getting you for Christmas Dinny?

An apostrophe  ;)
Grammer police, get over yourselve  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on December 21, 2009, 12:44:53 PM
Had a quick look at the NOTW website.  It's clear from the transcript that Terry neither solicits nor accepts any money.  Non-story, though I would agree that he should be more careful of the company he keeps...Tony The Tout and two NOTW journos.  Actually Tony The Tout's the real winner here...he pockets £2k for doing...feck all!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on December 21, 2009, 12:49:31 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on December 21, 2009, 12:43:57 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on December 21, 2009, 12:37:50 PM
So John Terry takes £8k off those paragons of virtue at the NOTW and gives it to a children's charity?  Fair play to him.
Aye thats right, you are 100% correct, Terry is blameless in all this.  I would be proud of my captain selling dodgy tours of the training ground for 10k a pop and he decides not to tell his employers out of the goodness of his heart, he is such an altruistic footballer.  Sure he gives his cut to charidee each time.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 21, 2009, 12:39:42 PM
Quote
Whats Father Christmas getting you for Christmas Dinny?

An apostrophe  ;)
Grammer police, get over yourselve  :P

Terry offers to show two "fans" round the training facility in return for a charitable donation.  Happens in all walks of life.  I did a piece of work during the year and donated my fee to a local charity.  Papers didn't pick it up though!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Doogie Browser on December 21, 2009, 12:57:28 PM
AQMP do you really think it was as innocent as that?  I think he is a crooked hoor, I really do.
Happens in all walks of life - come on now  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on December 21, 2009, 01:02:12 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on December 21, 2009, 12:57:28 PM
AQMP do you really think it was as innocent as that?  I think he is a crooked hoor, I really do.
Happens in all walks of life - come on now  :D

Doogie, all I'm saying (in case Terry's legal team are monitoring the boards) is that Terry doesn't ask for money, isn't given money and in fact I've now watched the video and we don't see any money.  However we do have the NOTW's word that there was £10k in the folder...no further questions M'Lud. ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Doogie Browser on December 21, 2009, 01:08:17 PM
I hate the NOTW but I have to admit some of their stings have been a good laugh down the years, the Fake Sheikh was a particular favourite  :D. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 21, 2009, 01:46:20 PM
Everyone will know that I am a big JT apologist fan, so this is a strange one. I am always VERY sceptical of the tabloids, and especially the News of the World, who are so close to headlines such as 'Elvis found living on the moon'. Therefore everything I read I take with a pinch of salt.

However. I think JT has f**ked up here in some fashion. It's so unprofessional and tacky if what the NOTW say he did, he did. He's the captain of the England and Chelsea football teams, surely there is a more professional way of doing what he did, if he had to do it.

What's more disappointing is the company. A f**king ticket tout? The hate of all decent football fans.

As an aside, Terry parted company with his life long agent a few months back. The amount of NOTW 'exclusives' on his family, and him since has spiralled.

And remember, for all those posting from glass houses, who are taking this as gospel, read the last paragraph.

QuoteAs we left Bruce offered more visits to Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal and Tottenham, naming two high-profile figures who could help lay them on.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TheGreatRambo on December 21, 2009, 07:55:13 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 21, 2009, 01:46:20 PM
Everyone will know that I am a big JT apologist fan, so this is a strange one. I am always VERY sceptical of the tabloids, and especially the News of the World, who are so close to headlines such as 'Elvis found living on the moon'. Therefore everything I read I take with a pinch of salt.

However. I think JT has f**ked up here in some fashion. It's so unprofessional and tacky if what the NOTW say he did, he did. He's the captain of the England and Chelsea football teams, surely there is a more professional way of doing what he did, if he had to do it.

What's more disappointing is the company. A f**king ticket tout? The hate of all decent football fans. 

As an aside, Terry parted company with his life long agent a few months back. The amount of NOTW 'exclusives' on his family, and him since has spiralled.

And remember, for all those posting from glass houses, who are taking this as gospel, read the last paragraph.

QuoteAs we left Bruce offered more visits to Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal and Tottenham, naming two high-profile figures who could help lay them on.

Does the ordinary fan hate the tout that much, I'd consider them a necessary evil. I've been lucky enough over the years to gain a few good contacts for football tickets but occasionally I'll still come up short and if a games important enough to me i'll pay a tout. He's providing a service and I'm availing of it.

Do agree with ya though its a bit messy for a player to be involved with a tout, but like ya say i'd say its rife.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 21, 2009, 08:42:57 PM
RESERVE REPORT: CELTIC 5 CHELSEA 3 Posted on: Mon 21 Dec 2009
Chelsea's reserves were beaten 5-3 away at Celtic on Monday in the first of two friendlies against the Scottish club.

In a game watched by Carlo Ancelotti and Ray Wilkins, both defences struggled to cope with the creativity of the opposition, and there were plenty of chances on a snowy Parkhead afternoon.

Conor Clifford had given Chelsea the lead in the first half, curling home into the corner after a build-up of 15 passes, yet poor defending proved costly and we went in 3-1 down against a Celtic side featuring five first-team players, and coached by Neil Lennon.

At 5-1 down in the second half, we pulled two goals back, the first when Gael Kakuta hit a left-footed volley in from the edge of the box after a corner, and then Josh McEachran made a run in behind and after his initial shot was saved by the goalkeeper, he cleverly lifted the ball over him and in to make the scoreline more respectable ahead of the second leg.

These games are designed to let the players get to grips with a European-style tie, and although no date has yet been arranged for the return fixture at Stamford Bridge, reserve coach Steve Holland is hoping it will be sooner rather than later.

'It was a really good game of football with both teams playing some good stuff, and neither defence could cope with the other's attack,' he said. 'It was an open, attacking game, with some disappointments and some pluses.'

Chelsea: Jan Sebek (sub Nic Heimann); Nikki Ahamed (sub Billy Clifford), Jeffrey Bruma, Carl Magnay (sub Kenny Strickland), Ben Gordon, Nemanja Matic, Jacopo Sala, Conor Clifford (sub Daniel Philliskirk), Fabio Borini, Gael Kakuta, Josh McEachran.

Celtic: Cervi (sub Giordano), Caddis, Thompson, Lafferty, Wilson, McGinn (sub Riley), Flood (sub Towell, Zheng, Carey, Forrest, McGowan.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 21, 2009, 08:49:49 PM
John Terry in the FIFA team of the year for what I believe is the 5th year in a row.

Also I hear that the 'Make a wish foundation' are preparing a statement that backs up Terry's donation claims.   
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 08:55:13 PM
Some going for JT.

FIFPro team of the year: Casillas; Dani Alves, Evra, Terry, Vidic; Xavi, Iniesta, Gerrard; Ronaldo, Messi, Torres.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on December 21, 2009, 09:09:20 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 08:55:13 PM
Some going for JT.

FIFPro team of the year: Casillas; Dani Alves, Evra, Terry, Vidic; Xavi, Iniesta, Gerrard; Ronaldo, Messi, Torres.

what a shocker vidic included  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 09:11:38 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 21, 2009, 09:09:20 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 08:55:13 PM
Some going for JT.

FIFPro team of the year: Casillas; Dani Alves, Evra, Terry, Vidic; Xavi, Iniesta, Gerrard; Ronaldo, Messi, Torres.

what a shocker vidic included  :o

Who said he was a bad player?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TheGreatRambo on December 21, 2009, 09:20:29 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 08:55:13 PM
Some going for JT.

FIFPro team of the year: Casillas; Dani Alves, Evra, Terry, Vidic; Xavi, Iniesta, Gerrard; Ronaldo, Messi, Torres.

You know how many of them are in the top 10 of the castrol ranking you were so keen on? 4

Evra ranks at 120th
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 09:22:24 PM
Quote from: TheGreatRambo on December 21, 2009, 09:20:29 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 08:55:13 PM
Some going for JT.

FIFPro team of the year: Casillas; Dani Alves, Evra, Terry, Vidic; Xavi, Iniesta, Gerrard; Ronaldo, Messi, Torres.

You know how many of them are in the top 10 of the castrol ranking you were so keen on? 4

Evra ranks at 120th

I didn't treat them as the holy grail of player rankings. I just said they were another method, who claimed to be the most complete set of statistics for footballers.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TheGreatRambo on December 21, 2009, 09:23:51 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 09:22:24 PM
Quote from: TheGreatRambo on December 21, 2009, 09:20:29 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 08:55:13 PM
Some going for JT.

FIFPro team of the year: Casillas; Dani Alves, Evra, Terry, Vidic; Xavi, Iniesta, Gerrard; Ronaldo, Messi, Torres.

You know how many of them are in the top 10 of the castrol ranking you were so keen on? 4

Evra ranks at 120th

I didn't treat them as the holy grail of player rankings. I just said they were another method, who claimed to be the most complete set of statistics for footballers.

U were a bit keen on them :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 09:27:16 PM
Quote from: TheGreatRambo on December 21, 2009, 09:23:51 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 09:22:24 PM
Quote from: TheGreatRambo on December 21, 2009, 09:20:29 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 08:55:13 PM
Some going for JT.

FIFPro team of the year: Casillas; Dani Alves, Evra, Terry, Vidic; Xavi, Iniesta, Gerrard; Ronaldo, Messi, Torres.

You know how many of them are in the top 10 of the castrol ranking you were so keen on? 4

Evra ranks at 120th

I didn't treat them as the holy grail of player rankings. I just said they were another method, who claimed to be the most complete set of statistics for footballers.

U were a bit keen on them :)

Ai, whatever you say. Sure I check them every day and im developing an app for the iPhone for it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on December 21, 2009, 09:33:52 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 09:11:38 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 21, 2009, 09:09:20 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 08:55:13 PM
Some going for JT.

FIFPro team of the year: Casillas; Dani Alves, Evra, Terry, Vidic; Xavi, Iniesta, Gerrard; Ronaldo, Messi, Torres.

what a shocker vidic included  :o

Who said he was a bad player?

nope but you did think a certain fulham player was better didn't you?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 09:48:35 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 21, 2009, 09:33:52 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 09:11:38 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 21, 2009, 09:09:20 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 08:55:13 PM
Some going for JT.

FIFPro team of the year: Casillas; Dani Alves, Evra, Terry, Vidic; Xavi, Iniesta, Gerrard; Ronaldo, Messi, Torres.

what a shocker vidic included  :o

Who said he was a bad player?

nope but you did think a certain fulham player was better didn't you?

Did I? What I was saying was that you were laughing at the fact that a website had the cheek to pick Hangeland over Vidic for the premier league team in 2009 calender year, not the 08/09 season. Vidic has been good for Utd, but over the course of 2009, I thought Hangeland was just as good, including this season when Vidic hasn't been as strong as he has been. That said, Hangeland probably stood out more as he was playing in a weaker defense than Utd's.

But sure you deleted the thread anyway, so who cares.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on December 21, 2009, 10:03:49 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 09:48:35 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 21, 2009, 09:33:52 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 09:11:38 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 21, 2009, 09:09:20 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 21, 2009, 08:55:13 PM
Some going for JT.

FIFPro team of the year: Casillas; Dani Alves, Evra, Terry, Vidic; Xavi, Iniesta, Gerrard; Ronaldo, Messi, Torres.

what a shocker vidic included  :o

Who said he was a bad player?

nope but you did think a certain fulham player was better didn't you?

Did I? What I was saying was that you were laughing at the fact that a website had the cheek to pick Hangeland over Vidic for the premier league team in 2009 calender year, not the 08/09 season. Vidic has been good for Utd, but over the course of 2009, I thought Hangeland was just as good, including this season when Vidic hasn't been as strong as he has been. That said, Hangeland probably stood out more as he was playing in a weaker defense than Utd's.

But sure you deleted the thread anyway, so who cares.  ;)

yep that's my problem there highlighted ;) united without vidic = weaker defense than fulham

you & the papers think's hangeland was better

i bet i could be backed by alot more  ;)



Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 23, 2009, 11:09:03 PM
Drogba's last game before Feb on Boxing day and Anelka injured. That leaves Borini and Sturridge up front for Fulham.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on December 23, 2009, 11:13:58 PM
Sturridge looks "a handful", if that isn't too big a cliche.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 26, 2009, 09:40:05 AM
Usually you'd look at the fixture list a few weeks back, and see today's game as 'three points'. However the Blues are on top form, and not the Cockney version!

I'd love to see the diamond ditched today, but it's not going to happen.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 26, 2009, 11:48:10 PM
What a 'crazy' season this is sport's fans!

Another frustrating day at the office again today. I can't make up my mind if this was a much better performance, and we (And I'll f**king say we if I want) were unlucky, or if we struggled again. I think the answer lies somewhere in between.

Stats that has us with an amazing 30 shots on target suggests that we pummelled Birmingham, and for parts of the game we did. Also guilty of some terrible misses, Malouda, and Sturridge the obvious ones. However I also thought that we flattered to deceive a wee bit. Lampard continues to misfire, and Drogba has definately lost his touch over the last game or two.

I think if some fancy football scientist runs the game through the computer the problems are obvious- alas not to Ancellotti. Only once did Chelsea get to the bye line, and that was via sub Kalou in or around the 80th minute.

The entire play is being played 15 yards in from each sideline, with the net affect that teams like Birmingham can strangle the play, and people like Lampard have no space to operate. As such despite 30 shots, a lot of them were desperate attempts. Credit to Joe Hart who made 3 or 4 great stops, but he should still have been picking the ball out of the net at some point in the game.

It's the pesky neighbours on Monday, and with the pack now at our heels, a must win.

I'd love to see 4-3-3.

                           Cech

Ivanovic        Terry        Alex         Ashley

                           Mikel

                   Lamps      Ballack

Joe Cole/ Kakuta                  Zhirkov

                        Drogba
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on December 27, 2009, 12:00:20 AM
Youse would need to get your f**king finger out, the Goons are chasing hard.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 27, 2009, 04:26:05 AM
I always thought Sturridge was a good player, he obviously isn't getting the game time he hoped he would get when he left City. Still a great player though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: nrico2006 on December 27, 2009, 10:08:07 AM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 27, 2009, 04:26:05 AM
I always thought Sturridge was a good player, he obviously isn't getting the game time he hoped he would get when he left City. Still a great player though.

How the hell can Sturridge be classed as a great player?  It just gets better.  I can't see how people are so certain that Chelsea will win the league this year, their form isn't good and United will be there come May.  Arsenal won't win the league.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 27, 2009, 10:17:21 AM
He's a great player because he's better than me, you and everyone else on here. He also must be a great player if City signed him when he was 16 and put him straight into the 1st team squad and Chelsea have been trying to sign him since he was 14. I have followed his career closely as he was at City, and seen what he achieved. That's what makes him a great player!

And yes, Chelsea WILL win the league!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 27, 2009, 10:45:46 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 27, 2009, 10:08:07 AM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 27, 2009, 04:26:05 AM
I always thought Sturridge was a good player, he obviously isn't getting the game time he hoped he would get when he left City. Still a great player though.

How the hell can Sturridge be classed as a great player?  It just gets better.  I can't see how people are so certain that Chelsea will win the league this year, their form isn't good and United will be there come May.  Arsenal won't win the league.

Who says Chelsea will win the league- bar Archie?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: new devil on December 27, 2009, 06:57:30 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 27, 2009, 04:26:05 AM
I always thought Sturridge was a good player, he obviously isn't getting the game time he hoped he would get when he left City. Still a great player though.

Which is it?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 27, 2009, 07:08:05 PM
Both.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 08:10:36 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 27, 2009, 10:17:21 AM
He's a great player because he's better than me, you and everyone else on here. He also must be a great player if City signed him when he was 16 and put him straight into the 1st team squad and Chelsea have been trying to sign him since he was 14. I have followed his career closely as he was at City, and seen what he achieved. That's what makes him a great player!

And yes, Chelsea WILL win the league!

i won't be making any predictions yet, but if united do win 4 in row u'll know who will remember this ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 27, 2009, 08:41:27 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 08:10:36 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 27, 2009, 10:17:21 AM
He's a great player because he's better than me, you and everyone else on here. He also must be a great player if City signed him when he was 16 and put him straight into the 1st team squad and Chelsea have been trying to sign him since he was 14. I have followed his career closely as he was at City, and seen what he achieved. That's what makes him a great player!

And yes, Chelsea WILL win the league!

i won't be making any predictions yet, but if united do win 4 in row u'll know who will remember this ;)

Really?

Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 09:01:54 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 27, 2009, 08:41:27 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 08:10:36 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 27, 2009, 10:17:21 AM
He's a great player because he's better than me, you and everyone else on here. He also must be a great player if City signed him when he was 16 and put him straight into the 1st team squad and Chelsea have been trying to sign him since he was 14. I have followed his career closely as he was at City, and seen what he achieved. That's what makes him a great player!

And yes, Chelsea WILL win the league!

i won't be making any predictions yet, but if united do win 4 in row u'll know who will remember this ;)

Really?

Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders

again read between the line's a prediction yes but did i predict the winner???

so my point is i won't be making any predictions on the title winners just yet! got that ??? (i hope so  :-\ )

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 27, 2009, 09:11:59 PM
It's still a prediction though isn't it?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: orangeman on December 28, 2009, 03:17:13 PM
The cheek of Fulham to take the lead after 2 minutes !!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: orangeman on December 28, 2009, 04:37:29 PM
What a turn around for Chelsea - 2 goals in 2 minutes - leading  2-1 now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: T Fearon on December 28, 2009, 05:44:04 PM
Thye have Baird the turd to thank for handing it to Drogba on a plate.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on December 28, 2009, 06:45:54 PM
after watching another lucky Chelsea win, i have decided to make a prediction on the 2009/10 premier league winners

in 2008/9 united won title with 90pts
in 2007/8 united won title with 87pts
in 2006/7 united won title with 89pts
in 2005/6 Chelsea won title with 91pts
in 2004/5 chelsea won title with 95pts
in 2003/4 Arsenal won title with 90pts

this season the winners will only need 80pts to be crowned champions
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on December 28, 2009, 07:04:40 PM
More number crunching from Ross4life.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on December 28, 2009, 07:36:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 28, 2009, 07:04:40 PM
More number crunching from Ross4life.

or rafa facts :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 28, 2009, 07:37:07 PM
And a prediction as well. But no emoticons?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 28, 2009, 07:38:14 PM
There they are.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on December 28, 2009, 07:39:30 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 28, 2009, 07:38:14 PM
There they are.

ohh you don't miss much  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on December 28, 2009, 08:02:18 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 28, 2009, 06:45:54 PM
after watching another lucky Chelsea win, i have decided to make a prediction on the 2009/10 premier league winners

in 2008/9 united won title with 90pts
in 2007/8 united won title with 87pts
in 2006/7 united won title with 89pts
in 2005/6 Chelsea won title with 91pts
in 2004/5 chelsea won title with 95pts
in 2003/4 Arsenal won title with 90pts

this season the winners will only need 80pts to be crowned champions

The standard of the league this year is really poor IMO. The two best teams are Chelsea and Man U and even they are not that great.

Don't think the likes of Villa, Man City or Spurs have got that much better really but the top teams have definitely gone backwards.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Galwaybhoy on December 28, 2009, 11:20:40 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on December 28, 2009, 08:02:18 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 28, 2009, 06:45:54 PM
after watching another lucky Chelsea win, i have decided to make a prediction on the 2009/10 premier league winners

in 2008/9 united won title with 90pts
in 2007/8 united won title with 87pts
in 2006/7 united won title with 89pts
in 2005/6 Chelsea won title with 91pts
in 2004/5 chelsea won title with 95pts
in 2003/4 Arsenal won title with 90pts

this season the winners will only need 80pts to be crowned champions

The standard of the league this year is really poor IMO. The two best teams are Chelsea and Man U and even they are not that great.

Don't think the likes of Villa, Man City or Spurs have got that much better really but the top teams have definitely gone backwards.

While I would agree that the standard of the teams have gone down it makes much more exciting viewing for a neutral like me.  So much to play for at the moment!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 30, 2009, 04:04:04 PM
Chelsea virtually debt free now.


Chelsea Football Club now 'virtually debt-free'

Chelsea Football Club has said it is now "virtually debt-free".

The company made the announcement along with its full-year results. It said it had turned almost all its debt into equity.

The debt was an interest-free loan of £340m ($537m) from its parent company, which is controlled by wealthy Russian Roman Abramovich.

Chelsea also announced reduced losses for the fourth year in a row. Losses fell to £44.4m ($70m) from £65.7m.

Chelsea chairman Bruce Buck said: "The club's debt load has been reduced almost to nil in order to provide more long-term stability for the club. It will also enable the club to comply with any regulations on debt levels which are being discussed by the football community."

'Disciplined management'

Chelsea needs to be debt-free to comply with future Uefa rules. Uefa's president, Michel Platini, wants to ban clubs from the lucrative Champions League after 2012 unless they break even on football-related business.

The club said that "disciplined management" of capital expenditure had reduced the cash spend from £107.4m to £16.9m.

It added that revenues remained stable despite the economic climate, reflecting the strength of the team, its continued success and the attractiveness of the FA Premier League "allied with the continued allegiance of our fans and commercial partners".

Net capital expenditure fell from £85.1m to £4.2m following the completion of major capital projects such as the training centre at Cobham.

The results include exceptional items of £12.6m related to compensation payments to a first team manager and three coaching staff.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8434698.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8434698.stm)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 30, 2009, 04:14:37 PM
I haven't really had time to look at these properly but with a very untrained accounting eye.

* Cash spend down from 107m to 17m.
* Net capital expenditure down from 85m to 4m.

Based on that I am surprised that the losses still stand at 44m?

As I say though, I know fake all about finances and have only skimmed over these.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 03, 2010, 10:54:54 AM
Big whispers of Heskey coming to Chelsea this morning. That'll be an interesting one. I'd see him very much as a Drogba-lite.

FA Cup 3rd day today, and after one of the most uninspiring 3rd rounds that I can remember, with not a shock in sight, the law of averages suggests something has to happen.

Obviously Chelsea should be too strong for Watford, but only if Ancellotti's mind set is right. Please God can he ditch the diamond, as he has hinted the last few days, and go 4-3-3. If I was selecting today, I'd go for....


                         Cech

Ferreria        Terry   Carvalho     Ashley C


                       Belletti

                Lamps       Ballack

Kakuta             Anelka              Zhirkov

Subs: Hillario, Joe Cole, Sturridge, Alex, Borini, Matic, Malouda

It gives Ivanovic the day off, and allows Alex a week to recover for the Hull game next Saturday. If things are going wrong Joe Cole, Sturridge, Borini, Malouda etc can be sprung, and if it's going right, Alex to get 30 minutes, and Matic and Borini to get some game time.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 04, 2010, 10:57:29 AM
I know it was an abysmal Watford, but apparently Chelsea attacked in waves. Width equals five goals.

Game time for Borini, Kakuta and Auto as well, which is exactly what they need.

Away to PNE next, and there is history there! Last time Chelsea went there, one of their fans was killed in a bit of trouble! Hopefully at bygones stage now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 12, 2010, 09:41:18 AM
Ivory Coast lose this Friday, and Drogba could be on the way home! Total games missed. One. It's unlikely though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 14, 2010, 06:51:13 PM
So, Chelsea have to pay City £3.5 million for Sturridge, potentially rising to £7 million (£500,000 for each 10, 20, 30 and 40 appearances as well as £1m if he plays for England)

Do you think he's worth it so far Norf? He hasn't had that much game time, not sure if that's down to injury or whatever.

Good article on him here. Lot's of potential, but yet to deliver.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1242976/What-price-Daniel-Sturridge-Branded-arrogant-lazy-Chelsea-boy-whos-told-hes-brilliant-life-deliver.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1242976/What-price-Daniel-Sturridge-Branded-arrogant-lazy-Chelsea-boy-whos-told-hes-brilliant-life-deliver.html)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 14, 2010, 07:29:38 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 14, 2010, 06:51:13 PM
So, Chelsea have to pay City £3.5 million for Sturridge, potentially rising to £7 million (£500,000 for each 10, 20, 30 and 40 appearances as well as £1m if he plays for England)

Do you think he's worth it so far Norf? He hasn't had that much game time, not sure if that's down to injury or whatever.

Good article on him here. Lot's of potential, but yet to deliver.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1242976/What-price-Daniel-Sturridge-Branded-arrogant-lazy-Chelsea-boy-whos-told-hes-brilliant-life-deliver.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1242976/What-price-Daniel-Sturridge-Branded-arrogant-lazy-Chelsea-boy-whos-told-hes-brilliant-life-deliver.html)

I think it's a great deal. £3m now for a young English support striker, and a maximum of £6.5m for a full England intl with 40 caps! There have been rumours about his attitude, but I'd say JT and Lampard will keep him right. He has it it bad with injuries so far, niggle after niggle.

Anyhow you told me he was a 'great' player a few weeks back.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 14, 2010, 07:36:28 PM
Yeah, he is great, if he would only deliver on his potential! That's what frustrated me when he was at City. Showed great promise in youth teams (losing a final and winning a final) then couldn't deliver it in the senior team. Maybe there was too much pressure on him. But, the potential is there, and will be a great deal if he delivers. Thought he would have been better going to a lesser team first though. Can agree with him leaving City, as would have been hard to play for City given all the signings they made, and was suprised to see him go to Chelsea, when he put himself in a worse position. Time will tell though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 16, 2010, 06:49:09 PM
Sunderland were poor, but in all my time watching Chelsea I struggle to remember a better performance. Chelsea were just immense, all over the field. Tackling, passing, dribling, shooting everything.

Each of the goals had a certain quality about them, but Terry's pass, Ashley Cole's control, turn and shot was a masterclass.

Anelka's performance and work rate was superb. Deserved a hat trick, and Chelsea spent the last 20 minutes trying to tee him up.

Hopefully the start of a wee run...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 16, 2010, 06:51:56 PM
And I meant to add.....

4-3-3. It makes sense.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 07:02:30 PM
Chelsea scoring goals for fun by why such the late arrival of Norf?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on January 16, 2010, 07:24:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 07:02:30 PM
Chelsea scoring goals for fun by why such the late arrival of Norf?

Eh?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 07:32:12 PM
So much for missing the African players. Should be good viewing on MOTD tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 07:38:34 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 16, 2010, 07:24:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 07:02:30 PM
Chelsea scoring goals for fun by why such the late arrival of Norf?

Eh?

Goal after goal yet no site of Norf? he must have been out shopping with herself ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 07:41:06 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 07:38:34 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 16, 2010, 07:24:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 07:02:30 PM
Chelsea scoring goals for fun by why such the late arrival of Norf?

Eh?

Goal after goal yet no site of Norf? he must have been out shopping with herself ::)

He doesn't have to comment on every goal or incident in the game like your keen self.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 16, 2010, 07:54:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 07:38:34 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 16, 2010, 07:24:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 07:02:30 PM
Chelsea scoring goals for fun by why such the late arrival of Norf?

Eh?

Goal after goal yet no site of Norf? he must have been out shopping with herself ::)

:D You are fast becoming this site's joke. What the f**k's that meant to mean 'why such the late arrival of Norf'?  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 07:58:52 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 16, 2010, 07:54:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 07:38:34 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 16, 2010, 07:24:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 07:02:30 PM
Chelsea scoring goals for fun by why such the late arrival of Norf?

Eh?

Goal after goal yet no site of Norf? he must have been out shopping with herself ::)

:D You are fast becoming this site's joke. What the f**k's that meant to mean 'why such the late arrival of Norf'?  :D

just saying/wondering! as other chelsea fan's may have wanted updates? but judging by the lack of interest on this thread i guess there's not many other chelsea fan's around on the gaaboard?

P.S a joker that hopefully gets the last laugh  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 16, 2010, 08:03:03 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 07:58:52 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 16, 2010, 07:54:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 07:38:34 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 16, 2010, 07:24:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 07:02:30 PM
Chelsea scoring goals for fun by why such the late arrival of Norf?

Eh?

Goal after goal yet no site of Norf? he must have been out shopping with herself ::)

:D You are fast becoming this site's joke. What the f**k's that meant to mean 'why such the late arrival of Norf'?  :D

just saying/wondering! as other chelsea fan's may have wanted updates? but judging by the lack of interest on this thread i guess there's not many other chelsea fan's around on the gaaboard?

Nope. Just me. Thanks for adding to the post count though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:03:49 PM
That what Soccer Saturday, Final Score, BBC Website, Chelsea Website, radio etc etc are for. You must think Norf Tyrone is Chelsea's PR officer  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on January 16, 2010, 08:05:17 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:03:49 PM
That what Soccer Saturday, Final Score, BBC Website, Chelsea Website, radio etc etc are for. You must think Norf Tyrone is Chelsea's PR officer  :D

Ross4life is the United equivalent.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:03:49 PM
That what Soccer Saturday, Final Score, BBC Website, Chelsea Website, radio etc etc are for. You must think Norf Tyrone is Chelsea's PR officer  :D

well now that it's confirmed he's the only chelsea fan here! he is the PR...

good job he has all the ABUS to help him out :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:18:34 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 16, 2010, 08:05:17 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:03:49 PM
That what Soccer Saturday, Final Score, BBC Website, Chelsea Website, radio etc etc are for. You must think Norf Tyrone is Chelsea's PR officer  :D

Ross4life is the United equivalent.

Don't you mean Berbatov's PR officer?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 08:27:53 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:18:34 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 16, 2010, 08:05:17 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:03:49 PM
That what Soccer Saturday, Final Score, BBC Website, Chelsea Website, radio etc etc are for. You must think Norf Tyrone is Chelsea's PR officer  :D

Ross4life is the United equivalent.

Don't you mean Berbatov's PR officer?

Well i'm happy enough with my so called 30 Million pound man! how about yours "Robinho"
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on January 16, 2010, 08:29:25 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 08:27:53 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:18:34 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 16, 2010, 08:05:17 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:03:49 PM
That what Soccer Saturday, Final Score, BBC Website, Chelsea Website, radio etc etc are for. You must think Norf Tyrone is Chelsea's PR officer  :D

Ross4life is the United equivalent.

Don't you mean Berbatov's PR officer?

Well i'm happy enough with my so called 30 Million pound man! how about yours "Robinho"

You are in a very small minority of United fans.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ludermor on January 16, 2010, 08:33:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:03:49 PM
That what Soccer Saturday, Final Score, BBC Website, Chelsea Website, radio etc etc are for. You must think Norf Tyrone is Chelsea's PR officer  :D

well now that it's confirmed he's the only chelsea fan here! he is the PR...

good job he has all the ABUS to help him out :D
He fecking them all the ABUS with lunatics like you about
http://www.abuslocks.com/
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:35:27 PM
He was shite today. And has been all season. You don't see me defending Robinho though in saying he doesn't fit the system, has bags of talent etc. Though no point debating on a Chelsea thread. Don't you mean the £24m man? Saying as you were so keen to get that point across last week?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: new devil on January 16, 2010, 09:15:17 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 08:27:53 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:18:34 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 16, 2010, 08:05:17 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:03:49 PM
That what Soccer Saturday, Final Score, BBC Website, Chelsea Website, radio etc etc are for. You must think Norf Tyrone is Chelsea's PR officer  :D

Ross4life is the United equivalent.

Don't you mean Berbatov's PR officer?

Well i'm happy enough with my so called 30 Million pound man! how about yours "Robinho"

You are happy enough with berbatov??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 09:23:33 PM
Quote from: new devil on January 16, 2010, 09:15:17 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 08:27:53 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:18:34 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 16, 2010, 08:05:17 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:03:49 PM
That what Soccer Saturday, Final Score, BBC Website, Chelsea Website, radio etc etc are for. You must think Norf Tyrone is Chelsea's PR officer  :D

Ross4life is the United equivalent.

Don't you mean Berbatov's PR officer?

Well i'm happy enough with my so called 30 Million pound man! how about yours "Robinho"

You are happy enough with berbatov??

Where have you been all week? ross4life has been defending him that much, that the DUP are considering hiring him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 16, 2010, 09:53:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:03:49 PM
That what Soccer Saturday, Final Score, BBC Website, Chelsea Website, radio etc etc are for. You must think Norf Tyrone is Chelsea's PR officer  :D

well now that it's confirmed he's the only chelsea fan here! he is the PR...

good job he has all the ABUS to help him out :D

Hopefully it's this BUS. Winky, winky, smiley.

(http://uk.wrs.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTf2ofNVJLmfYAL_9WBQx./SIG=13gofl4ig/EXP=1263765151/**http%3A//img.skysports.com/08/10/640/Chelsea-Premier-League-Champions-2006-Bus-Par_1299402.jpg)

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: new devil on January 17, 2010, 12:03:30 AM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 09:23:33 PM
Quote from: new devil on January 16, 2010, 09:15:17 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 08:27:53 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:18:34 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 16, 2010, 08:05:17 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:03:49 PM
That what Soccer Saturday, Final Score, BBC Website, Chelsea Website, radio etc etc are for. You must think Norf Tyrone is Chelsea's PR officer  :D

Ross4life is the United equivalent.

Don't you mean Berbatov's PR officer?

Well i'm happy enough with my so called 30 Million pound man! how about yours "Robinho"

You are happy enough with berbatov??

Where have you been all week? ross4life has been defending him that much, that the DUP are considering hiring him.

Yea i knew he was defending him..but didn't think he was happy with him
Hate to see your woman ross,you must be easily pleased  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on January 17, 2010, 02:51:18 AM
Quote from: new devil on January 17, 2010, 12:03:30 AM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 09:23:33 PM
Quote from: new devil on January 16, 2010, 09:15:17 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2010, 08:27:53 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:18:34 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 16, 2010, 08:05:17 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 16, 2010, 08:03:49 PM
That what Soccer Saturday, Final Score, BBC Website, Chelsea Website, radio etc etc are for. You must think Norf Tyrone is Chelsea's PR officer  :D

Ross4life is the United equivalent.

Don't you mean Berbatov's PR officer?

Well i'm happy enough with my so called 30 Million pound man! how about yours "Robinho"

You are happy enough with berbatov??

Where have you been all week? ross4life has been defending him that much, that the DUP are considering hiring him.

Yea i knew he was defending him..but didn't think he was happy with him
(http://hate%20to%20see%20your%20woman) ross,you must be easily pleased  :P

well here she is with her friends (i bet you can't guess the sexy beast)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GEmghWIM9eM/SMMWGBM5WtI/AAAAAAAAAa4/MEShEjPxc7I/s400/sexy_women.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: new devil on January 18, 2010, 05:23:16 AM
Bags off flour springs to mind!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 23, 2010, 02:38:46 PM
Phew. Geez I am knackered. Ran the whole way back from the pub there. Just waiting permission from ross4life now to post.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on January 23, 2010, 02:58:23 PM
did someone call my name ???

was out myself & just got the scoreline, how was the match
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 23, 2010, 10:29:39 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 23, 2010, 02:58:23 PM
did someone call my name ???

was out myself & just got the scoreline, how was the match

Boring. Preston tried hard, but lacked quality. Chelsea in 2nd gear.
Worrying injuries to Lampard and Belletti though. Midfield starting to look a bit light!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2010, 10:32:45 PM
Some blow for us Essien being out for six weeks. I just hope we can replace him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on January 23, 2010, 10:38:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 23, 2010, 10:32:45 PM
Some blow for us Essien being out for six weeks. I just hope we can replace him.

Us & we i was sure you were a liverpool fan or have you suddenly changed your colours?

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2010, 10:41:48 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 23, 2010, 10:38:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 23, 2010, 10:32:45 PM
Some blow for us Essien being out for six weeks. I just hope we can replace him.

Us & we i was sure you were a liverpool fan or have you suddenly changed your colours?

I was born in Abu Dhabi.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on January 23, 2010, 10:47:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 23, 2010, 10:41:48 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 23, 2010, 10:38:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 23, 2010, 10:32:45 PM
Some blow for us Essien being out for six weeks. I just hope we can replace him.

Us & we i was sure you were a liverpool fan or have you suddenly changed your colours?

I was born in Abu Dhabi.
what? sure you don't mean Ghana? (
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2010, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 23, 2010, 10:47:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 23, 2010, 10:41:48 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 23, 2010, 10:38:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 23, 2010, 10:32:45 PM
Some blow for us Essien being out for six weeks. I just hope we can replace him.

Us & we i was sure you were a liverpool fan or have you suddenly changed your colours?

I was born in Abu Dhabi.
what? sure you don't mean Ghana? (

Think about it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on January 23, 2010, 10:53:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 23, 2010, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 23, 2010, 10:47:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 23, 2010, 10:41:48 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 23, 2010, 10:38:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 23, 2010, 10:32:45 PM
Some blow for us Essien being out for six weeks. I just hope we can replace him.

Us & we i was sure you were a liverpool fan or have you suddenly changed your colours?

I was born in Abu Dhabi.
what? sure you don't mean Ghana? (

Think about it.

thought i told you to cut out the jokes?
(http://420.thrashbarg.net/you-not-funny.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dakota on January 24, 2010, 11:11:28 AM
Ross4life just because you are unable to catch on to his jokes doesn't mean there not funny
A.B.U Dhabi....,.. Get it now :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on January 24, 2010, 10:09:13 PM
Ivory Coast out. Good news for Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 24, 2010, 10:09:35 PM
Welcome home Sala and Didier.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on January 24, 2010, 10:27:53 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 24, 2010, 10:09:35 PM
Welcome home Sala and Didier.  ;D

last i checked Ivory Coast was there home ;) so will they be straight in V Birmingham midweek? or getting a few extra day's rest
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 27, 2010, 03:02:10 PM
At the start of the season you look at games, and clock up 3 points in your head. Tonight was one of them.
However Birmingham's 15 unbeaten trek suggests all but a walk in the park tonight, with Dann and Johnson probably the league's best centre back team at present.

Thankfully it looks like Ancellotti is going with the diamonte tonight. The worry for me would be Deco in the middle with Bowyer, Ferguson etc for company.

I am tentivelly (I know that's spelt wrong) going for Chelsea to win 2-0, Anelka, and a late clincher from Lampard.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on January 27, 2010, 11:42:36 PM
Very good win for the Chelsea boys tonight but to be honest the Birmingham good form was going to end sooner than later, they were really punching above their weight, i expect them to spiral downwards from here
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: stew on January 27, 2010, 11:47:10 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 27, 2010, 11:42:36 PM
Very good win for the Chelsea boys tonight but to be honest the Birmingham good form was going to end sooner than later, they were really punching above their weight, i expect them to spiral downwards from here

I dunno ross, 15 games is no fluke at this level, they ahve just been beaten by the best team, or one of the best teams in club football in the world and they didnt disgrace themselves.

I think they will be fine, they are tough to break down and play hard and fast.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 28, 2010, 01:28:04 PM
Chelsea made that look easy last night. So in control.
Good to see Lampard starting to whack them in again. The rules are simple. Play 4-3-3 and Chelsea and Lampard are far more potent.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 29, 2010, 10:07:05 AM
I know I've talked about this young fella before, but watching Chelsea youth in the FA Cup last night, the young Dub Conor Clifford is a very exciting prospect.

The lad is now a regular in the reserve midfield, and captain of the youth side. An all action midfielder who has a knack of scoring good goals.

Scored the winner last night (Again), and it would be no surprise to see him get a pro contract, and be in the first team squad next season.

Liverpool fans might see him up close soon, as Chelsea face Watford or Lpool in the last 8.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on January 29, 2010, 02:55:44 PM
John Terry has been a bold boy again I hear. Throwing one into Wayne Bridges missus (allegedly).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Doogie Browser on January 29, 2010, 03:27:24 PM
Another reason to hate Cashley today too

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8486666.stm
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 29, 2010, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 29, 2010, 02:55:44 PM
John Terry has been a bold boy again I hear. Throwing one into Wayne Bridges missus (allegedly).

What a guy.

QuoteAnother controversial superinjunction was overturned today as the England captain John Terry emerged as the footballer who obtained a gagging order preventing the publication of allegations about his private life.

It follows the Trafigura affair in October, when an oil trading company tried to use a pre-existing superinjunction – which prevents even the existence of an injunction from being known – to stop the Guardian reporting a parliamentary question until the subsequent outcry forced Trafigura and their lawyers to back down.

Lawyers for Terry succeeded in applying for a high court injunction on Friday last week, having learnt that a Sunday newspaper – believed to be the News of the World – planned to write about his private life.

Under the terms of a superinjunction agreed by a high court judge on privacy grounds, newspaper groups were unable to reveal who had applied to stop the story coming out. But today the judge, Mr Justice Tugendhat, lifted the injunction altogether.

"I do not consider that an interim injunction is necessary or proportionate having regard to the level of gravity of the interference with the private life of the applicant that would occur in the event that there is a publication of the fact of the relationship, or that [the applicant] can rely in this case on the interference with the private life of anyone else," he said.

Although the judge did not name Terry in his order, the Guardian can reveal that he was the player who made the application.

And while the injunction did not cite a specific paper, the judge said that the evidence named News Group Newspapers (NGN), the publisher of the News of the World.

Although the terms of the injunction held until 2pm today, details about it had started to leak, first in yesterday's Daily Telegraph, which referred to an unnamed Premier League footballer, and then on Twitter.

The judge criticised Terry's lawyers, Schillings, for not giving newspapers notice of the action they were taking.

"Notice has not been given to any newspaper when it should have been and, as a result, I have not had the benefit of arguments in opposition to the application, which might have assisted me to be satisfied of the matters of which I am not satisfied," he said.

He rejected their argument that they had not notified anyone of the application because their client did not know of any media organisation with a "specific interest in the story".

"The evidence shows that NGN were intending to publish a story about [the applicant] on the Sunday ... In my judgment the interest that NGN did show in publishing a story meant that they should have been given notice."

He also mentioned a letter sent by the Guardian that "illustrates the importance of open justice in a case such as the present one".

The use of the superinjunction is likely to reignite the debate about the use of human rights legislation by public figures to prevent stories being placed into the public domain.

Critics say a number of rulings based on the 1998 Human Rights Act have effectively created a privacy law in the UK, which has always shied away from passing legislation to protect the rich and powerful.

In a landmark case in 2008, high court judge Mr Justice Eady ruled that the News of the World had breached the privacy of Formula One boss Max Mosley. The paper had to pay Mosley damages.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on January 29, 2010, 03:56:53 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on January 29, 2010, 03:27:24 PM
Another reason to hate Cashley today too

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8486666.stm

Cole claimed the papparazzi were chasing him...what were they driving, Ferraris??

Another reason to hate Ashley Cole...he's playing brilliantly for Chelsea! :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on January 29, 2010, 03:58:48 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 29, 2010, 02:55:44 PM
John Terry has been a bold boy again I hear. Throwing one into Wayne Bridges missus (allegedly).

I heard about three or four years ago from a mate involved in journalism in London that it's well known in media circles that Terry can't keep it in his trousers >:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: full back on January 29, 2010, 03:59:52 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on January 29, 2010, 03:27:24 PM
Another reason to hate Cashley today too

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8486666.stm

Why would this make you hate him even more?  ???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Doogie Browser on January 29, 2010, 04:12:23 PM
Quote from: full back on January 29, 2010, 03:59:52 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on January 29, 2010, 03:27:24 PM
Another reason to hate Cashley today too

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8486666.stm

Why would this make you hate him even more?  ???
Sorry, I must have put the wrong words in, I meant to type Ashley Cole is a perfect human being, a beacon of hope in an otherwise tainted world.  In fact I would go far as to say he is the new Pel.. ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 29, 2010, 08:05:55 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on January 29, 2010, 04:12:23 PM
Quote from: full back on January 29, 2010, 03:59:52 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on January 29, 2010, 03:27:24 PM
Another reason to hate Cashley today too

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8486666.stm

Why would this make you hate him even more?  ???
Sorry, I must have put the wrong words in, I meant to type Ashley Cole is a perfect human being, a beacon of hope in an otherwise tainted world.  In fact I would go far as to say he is the new Pel.. ;)

Had Aston Villa not got issues with their manager speeding a few years back? He would've beat Cole in a race he was going so fast. Anyhow that Cole story is agggggeesss old. About time you caught up DB!  ;)

Re JT. I heard this story on Wednesday. Again, who knows if it's true or not. Probably. He's being a bit of a dick, with the situations he gets himself into, but the NOTW have it in for him BIG time.
To be fair, it's unusal for JT not to keep a clean sheet.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 29, 2010, 10:36:06 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 29, 2010, 08:05:55 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on January 29, 2010, 04:12:23 PM
Quote from: full back on January 29, 2010, 03:59:52 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on January 29, 2010, 03:27:24 PM
Another reason to hate Cashley today too

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8486666.stm

Why would this make you hate him even more?  ???
Sorry, I must have put the wrong words in, I meant to type Ashley Cole is a perfect human being, a beacon of hope in an otherwise tainted world.  In fact I would go far as to say he is the new Pel.. ;)

Had Aston Villa not got issues with their manager speeding a few years back? He would've beat Cole in a race he was going so fast. Anyhow that Cole story is agggggeesss old. About time you caught up DB!  ;)

Re JT. I heard this story on Wednesday. Again, who knows if it's true or not. Probably. He's being a bit of a dick, with the situations he gets himself into, but the NOTW have it in for him BIG time.
To be fair, it's unusal for JT not to keep a clean sheet.

:D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on January 29, 2010, 10:47:09 PM
Henry Winter: When I heard that Ashley Cole had asked for 21 days to pay off a speeding fine I almost drove off the road
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 30, 2010, 10:08:23 AM
£15 -300 fine "to reflect his income"...


Lucky David dein didn't phone him then ...Last time he phoned him he nearly crashed his car because he only offered him £65000 a week..

Cashley Cole and Cheryl Greedy!! Well matched!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on January 30, 2010, 10:10:34 AM
We have to bear in mind that most professional footballers are complete tossers!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Galwaybhoy on January 30, 2010, 11:08:51 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on January 30, 2010, 10:10:34 AM
We have to bear in mind that most professional footballers are complete t**sers!!

Ya but Cole is bigger one than most.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: under the bar on January 30, 2010, 12:01:28 PM
QuoteWe have to bear in mind that most professional footballers are complete t**sers!!


Ya but Cole is bigger one than most.

He also has one of those faces you'd never get tired of kicking...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on January 30, 2010, 03:34:37 PM
Quote from: under the bar on January 30, 2010, 12:01:28 PM
QuoteWe have to bear in mind that most professional footballers are complete t**sers!!


Ya but Cole is bigger one than most.

He also has one of those faces you'd never get tired of kicking...

A bit like Cliff Richard ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 30, 2010, 04:33:50 PM
Quote from: under the bar on January 30, 2010, 12:01:28 PM
QuoteWe have to bear in mind that most professional footballers are complete t**sers!!


Ya but Cole is bigger one than most.

He also has one of those faces you'd never get tired of kicking...

RACIST!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: longrunsthefox on January 30, 2010, 05:28:33 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 30, 2010, 04:33:50 PM
Quote from: under the bar on January 30, 2010, 12:01:28 PM
QuoteWe have to bear in mind that most professional footballers are complete t**sers!!


Ya but Cole is bigger one than most.

He also has one of those faces you'd never get tired of kicking...

RACIST!

How in under God is that racist? Some people don' tseem to understand what the word means. I got accused of the same earlier in remark on another thread. Under the bar said same about Cliff Richard.. does that make him a member of the Black Power Movement. Wise up.   
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 30, 2010, 05:37:41 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 30, 2010, 05:28:33 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 30, 2010, 04:33:50 PM
Quote from: under the bar on January 30, 2010, 12:01:28 PM
QuoteWe have to bear in mind that most professional footballers are complete t**sers!!


Ya but Cole is bigger one than most.

He also has one of those faces you'd never get tired of kicking...

RACIST!

How in under God is that racist? Some people don' tseem to understand what the word means. I got accused of the same earlier in remark on another thread. Under the bar said same about Cliff Richard.. does that make him a member of the Black Power Movement. Wise up.

Lighten up. I am away to listen tae to the football. It was humour LRTF. Humour.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 30, 2010, 06:44:30 PM
1-1 currently at Turf Moor. Can't understand why Alex starts ahead of Carvalho
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on January 30, 2010, 06:49:21 PM
commentary on espn.........

Chelsea score after their first shot on goal..... "it was coming! was only a matter of time"

Burnley Score........ " i think that's their first shot on goal & they score"

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on January 30, 2010, 07:15:27 PM
"John Terry scores away from home" on the front and back pages of newspapers?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 30, 2010, 07:27:20 PM
So Chelsea win, Terry lucky not to see red and then scores the winner, after the few days he's had you couldn't make it up. Means a draw tomorrow is now a bad result for either side.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: AFS on January 30, 2010, 07:34:08 PM
That Bikey is a useless bollix. Sleeping for both Chelsea's goals.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2010, 07:17:39 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 30, 2010, 07:27:20 PM
So Chelsea win, Terry lucky not to see red and then scores the winner, after the few days he's had you couldn't make it up. Means a draw tomorrow is now a bad result for either side.

Old seen MOTD so can't comment, but ready 4 or 5 reports, watched MOTD, and trawled the Chelsea forums. First mention of escaping a red I seen.
What did he do?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 01:47:00 PM
I didn't think he should have been sent off but he was the last man and it was blatent body check on Blake so technically it was a red card,it got a yellow Paul Walsh on Fox I think kept going on about it and Fat Sam mentioned it on Goals on Sunday.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on January 31, 2010, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 01:47:00 PM
I didn't think he should have been sent off but he was the last man and it was blatent body check on Blake so technically it was a red card,it got a yellow Paul Walsh on Fox I think kept going on about it and Fat Sam mentioned it on Goals on Sunday.

The rule afaik is "goalscoring opportunity" not "last man", if I remember right it was just inside the Chelsea half so Blake would have had a fair bit of work to do.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on January 31, 2010, 08:15:38 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 31, 2010, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 01:47:00 PM
I didn't think he should have been sent off but he was the last man and it was blatent body check on Blake so technically it was a red card,it got a yellow Paul Walsh on Fox I think kept going on about it and Fat Sam mentioned it on Goals on Sunday.

The rule afaik is "goalscoring opportunity" not "last man", if I remember right it was just inside the Chelsea half so Blake would have had a fair bit of work to do.

Correct Minder...it has feck all to do with whether you are the last man or not...you must be "denying a clear goal scoring opportunity"...I think the man fouled must be in control of the ball and heading towards goal as well
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 08:34:34 PM
Sorry I do know the rule, but he was through on goal and Terry fouled him, it's up to the referee's to decide whether a clear goal scoring opportunity was denied but as he was fouled no one can be certain so on another day a ref might give a red card for it, either way it was quite cynical. Personally I don't think it was a red card but the commentators were stressing he should have gone.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: under the bar on January 31, 2010, 09:42:30 PM
Terry like Gerrard and Rooney get off with a lot as key England players.  Terry in particular gets the rub of the green by not even getting booked for shirt-pulling and deliberate body checking in the box that foreign premiership players would get cautioned for.  Fair play to him for having the refs in his pocket.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: magpie seanie on February 01, 2010, 12:29:38 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 30, 2010, 07:34:08 PM
That Bikey is a useless bollix. Sleeping for both Chelsea's goals.

He got top bonus points on Fantasy Premier League for that game!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 02, 2010, 08:20:35 PM
1-0 hull 30 mins gone.  :o ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ballinaman on February 02, 2010, 08:23:08 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on February 02, 2010, 08:20:35 PM
1-0 hull 30 mins gone.  :o ;)
Expect a Drogba or deflected Lampard goal soon enough. C'mon Hull though
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on February 02, 2010, 08:29:45 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 02, 2010, 08:23:08 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on February 02, 2010, 08:20:35 PM
1-0 hull 30 mins gone.  :o ;)
Expect a Drogba or deflected Lampard shot soon enough. C'mon Hull though

Correct sir
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2010, 09:41:58 PM
1-1.

Makes Sunday's game more interesting.

Chelsea 1 Arsenal 6.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ExiledGael on February 02, 2010, 09:54:32 PM
Anyone else think Ballack has been shocking lately? His game is also affecting others and doing Lampard no favours.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 05, 2010, 12:52:18 AM
I wonder how much compensation we will get from FIFA for their shameful investigation into the Kakuta case, and will Chelsea get any compensation for the development time lost while the youngster was suspended?

I'll not hold my breath.

Back to the drawing board for Platini and friends...  ;)

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 05, 2010, 10:55:22 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 05, 2010, 12:52:18 AM
I wonder how much compensation we will get from FIFA for their shameful investigation into the Kakuta case, and will Chelsea get any compensation for the development time lost while the youngster was suspended?

I'll not hold my breath.

Back to the drawing board for Platini and friends...  ;)

Scandalous victimisation!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 05, 2010, 12:28:51 PM
What did Blatter ref to the Kakuta case as, that's it 'child slavery'!

What has he said since......... Nothing.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Rocky Mc Guigan on February 05, 2010, 12:39:42 PM
Seriously can't believe that any self respecting Irishman would tie themselves to a club whose local supporters hate everything Irish and forced 2 Dublin lads in their Chelsea colours to leave the ground before they suffered serious injury.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: EC Unique on February 05, 2010, 12:59:17 PM
Quote from: Rocky Mc Guigan on February 05, 2010, 12:39:42 PM
Seriously can't believe that any self respecting Irishman would tie themselves to a club whose local supporters hate everything Irish and forced 2 Dublin lads in their Chelsea colours to leave the ground before they suffered serious injury.

Any time I see a person here wearing a Chelsea top I automatically think the same as if they were wearing a Rangers top.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on February 05, 2010, 01:11:57 PM
How many times do you need reminded about the United fans and their "Fcuk the Pope" chants when they were playing Celtic a couple of years ago?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 05, 2010, 01:14:02 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 05, 2010, 01:11:57 PM
How many times do you need reminded about the United fans and their "Fcuk the Pope" chants when they were playing Celtic a couple of years ago?
Move on, nothing to see here, United fans are 'the best in the world'
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 05, 2010, 01:36:52 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 05, 2010, 12:59:17 PM
Quote from: Rocky Mc Guigan on February 05, 2010, 12:39:42 PM
Seriously can't believe that any self respecting Irishman would tie themselves to a club whose local supporters hate everything Irish and forced 2 Dublin lads in their Chelsea colours to leave the ground before they suffered serious injury.

Any time I see a person here wearing a Chelsea top I automatically think the same as if they were wearing a Rangers top.

Surely you mean Liverpool top...the Orange Order's club?? ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: bingobus on February 05, 2010, 01:47:19 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on February 05, 2010, 01:36:52 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 05, 2010, 12:59:17 PM
Quote from: Rocky Mc Guigan on February 05, 2010, 12:39:42 PM
Seriously can't believe that any self respecting Irishman would tie themselves to a club whose local supporters hate everything Irish and forced 2 Dublin lads in their Chelsea colours to leave the ground before they suffered serious injury.

Any time I see a person here wearing a Chelsea top I automatically think the same as if they were wearing a Rangers top.

Surely you mean Liverpool top...the Orange Order's club?? ;)

Indeed, I was on th Kop once and a grown man in Lower Cent. stand was going ballistic as he saw a group of lads with a tricolour down in front of us. He was eventually ejected...not before he started to gave a his red flag of ulster flag in their direction!! Two Orange lodge clubs not a million miles from Anfield actually but the lodge would have a big presence round liverpool.

I also know a few United fans would got in a row outside Old trafford with other united fans over them "been paddy bastards".

Summary: Every club has idiots
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 05, 2010, 01:52:17 PM
Quote from: bingobus on February 05, 2010, 01:47:19 PM
Summary: Every club has idiots

Exactly, plenty enough Utd/Liverpool/Villa/Chelsea/Arsenal fans with links to far right groups, bigots etc, they are not the reason we support them.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 05, 2010, 02:03:58 PM
Quote from: Rocky Mc Guigan on February 05, 2010, 12:39:42 PM
Seriously can't believe that any self respecting Irishman would tie themselves to a club whose local supporters hate everything Irish and forced 2 Dublin lads in their Chelsea colours to leave the ground before they suffered serious injury.

When did this happen?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 05, 2010, 02:11:49 PM
Quote from: bingobus on February 05, 2010, 01:47:19 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on February 05, 2010, 01:36:52 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 05, 2010, 12:59:17 PM
Quote from: Rocky Mc Guigan on February 05, 2010, 12:39:42 PM
Seriously can't believe that any self respecting Irishman would tie themselves to a club whose local supporters hate everything Irish and forced 2 Dublin lads in their Chelsea colours to leave the ground before they suffered serious injury.

Any time I see a person here wearing a Chelsea top I automatically think the same as if they were wearing a Rangers top.

Surely you mean Liverpool top...the Orange Order's club?? ;)

Indeed, I was on th Kop once and a grown man in Lower Cent. stand was going ballistic as he saw a group of lads with a tricolour down in front of us. He was eventually ejected...not before he started to gave a his red flag of ulster flag in their direction!! Two Orange lodge clubs not a million miles from Anfield actually but the lodge would have a big presence round liverpool.

I also know a few United fans would got in a row outside Old trafford with other united fans over them "been paddy b**tards".

Summary: Every club has idiots

There are certainly elements at most clubs that resent the "daytrippers" as they see it coming over from Ireland. Thankfully they are a very small minority but they are definitely there. I know at the last Liverpool game I saw a tricolour in the Kop and I thought it was unusual to see one there as there was a Reclaim The Kop campaign to have only Liverpool flags in the Kop and no national flags. To be honest I don't really see the point of bringing a national flag with you to these games anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: bingobus on February 05, 2010, 02:34:13 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 05, 2010, 02:11:49 PM

There are certainly elements at most clubs that resent the "daytrippers" as they see it coming over from Ireland. Thankfully they are a very small minority but they are definitely there. I know at the last Liverpool game I saw a tricolour in the Kop and I thought it was unusual to see one there as there was a Reclaim The Kop campaign to have only Liverpool flags in the Kop and no national flags. To be honest I don't really see the point of bringing a national flag with you to these games anyway.

KFS - Keep flags scouse and that saw St Georges cross flags burned on euro aways as well! Never took an Irish flag to anfield, have a half/half liverpool/ireland scarf from years back but it never travels.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 05, 2010, 03:30:29 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on February 05, 2010, 01:52:17 PM
Quote from: bingobus on February 05, 2010, 01:47:19 PM
Summary: Every club has idiots

Exactly, plenty enough Utd/Liverpool/Villa/Chelsea/Arsenal fans with links to far right groups, bigots etc, they are not the reason we support them.

Agreed...and I have to plead guilty to being one of Chelsea's idiots!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Schkite on February 05, 2010, 03:34:26 PM
Terry dropped as England captain according to Sky news.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 05, 2010, 03:42:08 PM
Quote from: Schkite on February 05, 2010, 03:34:26 PM
Terry dropped as England captain according to Sky news.

Interesting...this has a lot to do with the FA's attempt to make "The England Captain" a brand to be "marketed" over the past 10 years or so.

Hope it throws England into disarray for the World Cup!! ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 05, 2010, 09:52:16 PM
Quote from: Rocky Mc Guigan on February 05, 2010, 12:39:42 PM
Seriously can't believe that any self respecting Irishman would tie themselves to a club whose local supporters hate everything Irish and forced 2 Dublin lads in their Chelsea colours to leave the ground before they suffered serious injury.

Have you a link to this, or what evidence is there that this happened?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Rocky Mc Guigan on February 06, 2010, 10:10:06 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 05, 2010, 09:52:16 PM
Quote from: Rocky Mc Guigan on February 05, 2010, 12:39:42 PM
Seriously can't believe that any self respecting Irishman would tie themselves to a club whose local supporters hate everything Irish and forced 2 Dublin lads in their Chelsea colours to leave the ground before they suffered serious injury.

Have you a link to this, or what evidence is there that this happened?
Straight from the horses mouth-spoke to both lads-vowed they would never look at another game where the National Front makes up significant part of the Shed
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 06, 2010, 10:16:30 AM
Quote from: Rocky Mc Guigan on February 06, 2010, 10:10:06 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 05, 2010, 09:52:16 PM
Quote from: Rocky Mc Guigan on February 05, 2010, 12:39:42 PM
Seriously can't believe that any self respecting Irishman would tie themselves to a club whose local supporters hate everything Irish and forced 2 Dublin lads in their Chelsea colours to leave the ground before they suffered serious injury.

Have you a link to this, or what evidence is there that this happened?
Straight from the horses mouth-spoke to both lads-vowed they would never look at another game where the National Front makes up significant part of the Shed

The National Front??  This must have been in the 70s or 80s.  I've been to Stamford Bridge a few times recently.  I have a thick Irish (northern, sure we're all Paddies to the NF, or do you mean BNP??) accent...never had a problem..straight from the horse's mouth!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 11:12:02 AM
It's the older generation who have that perception. I wasn't about but it was said that Rangers/Linfield/Chelsea had some kind of sectarian allegience in the 70s/80s but as far as I can gather that has long passed.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: EC Unique on February 06, 2010, 11:26:37 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 11:12:02 AM
It's the older generation who have that perception. I wasn't about but it was said that Rangers/Linfield/Chelsea had some kind of sectarian allegience in the 70s/80s but as far as I can gather that has long passed.

Maybe this explains why I said

Quote from: EC Unique on February 05, 2010, 12:59:17 PM

Any time I see a person here wearing a Chelsea top I automatically think the same as if they were wearing a Rangers top.


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 06, 2010, 11:57:16 AM
Back in the 70's and 80's C18 were commonly seen in the Shed.  That has changed but like every club there is an bad element among the fans. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 06, 2010, 12:24:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 11:12:02 AM
It's the older generation who have that perception. I wasn't about but it was said that Rangers/Linfield/Chelsea had some kind of sectarian allegience in the 70s/80s but as far as I can gather that has long passed.

I was about then O'Neill and this is a bit of an urban myth...very few people in Ireland supported Chelsea in those days...I'm not trying to score points here and it's by no means scientific but most Linfield/Rangers fans I came across then (and I lived in a predominantly PUL area) seemed to support Liverpool.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 05:25:31 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on February 06, 2010, 12:24:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 11:12:02 AM
It's the older generation who have that perception. I wasn't about but it was said that Rangers/Linfield/Chelsea had some kind of sectarian allegience in the 70s/80s but as far as I can gather that has long passed.

I was about then O'Neill and this is a bit of an urban myth...very few people in Ireland supported Chelsea in those days...I'm not trying to score points here and it's by no means scientific but most Linfield/Rangers fans I came across then (and I lived in a predominantly PUL area) seemed to support Liverpool.

Well, twas the father in law, who kept telling me he detested Chelsea over the years despite having no interest in soccer, who related this info to me.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 06, 2010, 05:30:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 05:25:31 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on February 06, 2010, 12:24:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 11:12:02 AM
It's the older generation who have that perception. I wasn't about but it was said that Rangers/Linfield/Chelsea had some kind of sectarian allegience in the 70s/80s but as far as I can gather that has long passed.

I was about then O'Neill and this is a bit of an urban myth...very few people in Ireland supported Chelsea in those days...I'm not trying to score points here and it's by no means scientific but most Linfield/Rangers fans I came across then (and I lived in a predominantly PUL area) seemed to support Liverpool.

Well, twas the father in law, who kept telling me he detested Chelsea over the years despite having no interest in soccer, who related this info to me.

No further questions M'Lud ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 05:32:03 PM
And you can join this group - http://www.facebook.com/ChelseaRangersLoyal
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 05:35:08 PM
Or here: http://nominated.homestead.com/BLUESBROTHERS.html
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 05:36:30 PM
This urban myth is gathering a wee bit of moss.

(http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p383/barnyd/chelseagers.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 05:39:45 PM
or here - http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2328213149
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2010, 05:41:33 PM
Been to Stamford Bridge many, many times since my first visit in 1994, and have never had a bother. Spent most of that time sitting in the infamous shed too!

There was an elemant of Chelsea fans who twinned (Or was it tripled) themselves with Rangers and Linfield in the past, but that's now few in fair between.

In fact in the mid to late 70s, Chelsea fans tended to follow Celtic as a second club. Two things acted as a catalyst for that. The first being that Chelsea's traditional rivals have always been QPR, and therefore a natural opposite of the 'Rangers' was Celtic.

The second, and which really cemented it, was the transfer of David Hay to Chelsea from Celtic. Hay became a bit of a cult hero to the Chelsea fans. Indeed a most common fashion piece around Chelsea was a half/ half Chelsea/ Celtic hat! I kid you not. In fact you wil still see the very odd one floating about!

However when the IRA started bombing England in the late 70s, early 80s this flirtation with Celtic and Irishness evaporated. Chelsea being a tradionally posh part of the world, started to attract NF and C18 sympathisers due to it's geographical affluence, and the blue and white colours which at times (Not a club tradition) had a trimming of red. This in turn evolved in to the 'Blues brothers' trend that the 80s and 90s had.

Thankfully 95% of this has gone now. No objection to Linfield and Rangers as such from me, but people who followed the triumvriate had strong political leanings.

As stated, I have never had an issue on any visit to SB. In fact the only time I suffered from secterian abuse at a football match was at a Celtic/ Raith cup final... from Celtic fans!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 06, 2010, 05:44:05 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 05:32:03 PM
And you can join this group - http://www.facebook.com/ChelseaRangersLoyal

So there are 1200 wankers on Facebook.  Who'd have thought it!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2010, 05:46:12 PM
Would you not be bettwe joining this group O'Neill?

[urlhttp://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/group.php?gid=127247621506&ref=search&sid=592853454.1305152146..1][/url]
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 05:46:31 PM
I'd say being called 'the Blues' is probably a big factor too. I'd see a lot of Cavan GAA fans with Rangers, Chelsea and Linfield regalia at matches.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 06, 2010, 05:49:17 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2010, 05:41:33 PM
Been to Stamford Bridge many, many times since my first visit in 1994, and have never had a bother. Spent most of that time sitting in the infamous shed too!

There was an elemant of Chelsea fans who twinned (Or was it tripled) themselves with Rangers and Linfield in the past, but that's now few in fair between.

In fact in the mid to late 70s, Chelsea fans tended to follow Celtic as a second club. Two things acted as a catalyst for that. The first being that Chelsea's traditional rivals have always been QPR, and therefore a natural opposite of the 'Rangers' was Celtic.

The second, and which really cemented it, was the transfer of David Hay to Chelsea from Celtic. Hay became a bit of a cult hero to the Chelsea fans. Indeed a most common fashion piece around Chelsea was a half/ half Chelsea/ Celtic hat! I kid you not. In fact you wil still see the very odd one floating about!

However when the IRA started bombing England in the late 70s, early 80s this flirtation with Celtic and Irishness evaporated. Chelsea being a tradionally posh part of the world, started to attract NF and C18 sympathisers due to it's geographical affluence, and the blue and white colours which at times (Not a club tradition) had a trimming of red. This in turn evolved in to the 'Blues brothers' trend that the 80s and 90s had.

Thankfully 95% of this has gone now. No objection to Linfield and Rangers as such from me, but people who followed the triumvriate had strong political leanings.

As stated, I have never had an issue on any visit to SB. In fact the only time I suffered from secterian abuse at a football match was at a Celtic/ Raith cup final... from Celtic fans!!

I nearly had my jaw broke in the Hatfield Bar.  Smacked by a guy in a Celtic shirt who said I "looked like a Prod"!!  Give me the shed any day!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 06, 2010, 05:50:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 05:46:31 PM
I'd say being called 'the Blues' is probably a big factor too. I'd see a lot of Cavan GAA fans with Rangers, Chelsea and Linfield regalia at matches.

Not forgetting Crossmaglen!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 05:54:28 PM
Sorry, I've already signed up to this - http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=77284220975&ref=search&sid=621618666.4103536009..1
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: bonaduche on February 06, 2010, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: bonaduche on February 06, 2010, 07:35:03 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on February 06, 2010, 05:30:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 05:25:31 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on February 06, 2010, 12:24:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 11:12:02 AM
It's the older generation who have that perception. I wasn't about but it was said that Rangers/Linfield/Chelsea had some kind of sectarian allegience in the 70s/80



the story goes from my father        one of the main chants years ago at stamford bridge was a song      Im forever blowing bubbles......repuditaly this is the song the black and tans sung at the hanging of roddy macorley  at toombridge  the two incidents were always inexplicably linked here in the six counties by an older generation       but things have moved on  thank god
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2010, 08:28:51 PM
Quote from: bonaduche on February 06, 2010, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: bonaduche on February 06, 2010, 07:35:03 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on February 06, 2010, 05:30:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 05:25:31 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on February 06, 2010, 12:24:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 11:12:02 AM
It's the older generation who have that perception. I wasn't about but it was said that Rangers/Linfield/Chelsea had some kind of sectarian allegience in the 70s/80



the story goes from my father        one of the main chants years ago at stamford bridge was a song      Im forever blowing bubbles......repuditaly this is the song the black and tans sung at the hanging of roddy macorley  at toombridge  the two incidents were always inexplicably linked here in the six counties by an older generation       but things have moved on  thank god

Yeah that's true. There is nothing Chelsea fans like more than singing West Ham anthems!  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 07, 2010, 09:08:10 AM
Quote from: bonaduche on February 06, 2010, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: bonaduche on February 06, 2010, 07:35:03 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on February 06, 2010, 05:30:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 05:25:31 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on February 06, 2010, 12:24:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 11:12:02 AM
It's the older generation who have that perception. I wasn't about but it was said that Rangers/Linfield/Chelsea had some kind of sectarian allegience in the 70s/80



the story goes from my father        one of the main chants years ago at stamford bridge was a song      Im forever blowing bubbles......repuditaly this is the song the black and tans sung at the hanging of roddy macorley  at toombridge  the two incidents were always inexplicably linked here in the six counties by an older generation       but things have moved on  thank god

You're not far wrong there!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2010, 10:57:56 AM
Rumour has it there is a match on today.

And a big game for both sides it is too. Arsenal will be keen to get back into the race, after their mauling last Sunday. While Chelsea's dropped midweek points, coupled with the media spotlight of the last 10 days, ensures that they too are under pressure for a win.

My first thought after last Sunday was of a winded animal, from Wenger's men and boys. Hopefully Chelsea's result on Tuesday gives them renewed vigour. On Tuesday they looked like a team under the glare of the media, and saddled with it. Today is time for Lampard, Dogba, and John Terry to stand up and lead the team for 90 minutes.

With both sides, almost needing a win this game could get spicey.

Thankfully Ashley Cole is back today. Up in Hull on Tuesday, he transformed the side when he came on with about 10-15 minutes to go. I can appreciate the calls for POTY from Team Rooney, but down Chelsea way, the calls will be as loud from Team Ashley and Team Anelka for the same title.

Mikel's African return will add a bit of freshness to a midfield which has struggled recently. Ballack I don't think has the energy for 2 games a week, and Deco should not be allowed near a cold Tueday in Hull, or a big derby in February either.  However with Belletti, and Essien crocked, it'll probably be Ballack and Lampard in the centre with Mikel behind. The problem is keeping an eye on Fabregas. Lampard is too important to do the job, Ballack has not got the legs, with Mikel will probably pick up a mandatory first half yellow card, which will put him under pressure.

Hopefully Malouda, Drogba and Anelka up top.

Should be fun...............
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on February 07, 2010, 06:18:32 PM
Drogba reigns supreme again v Arsenal.

Between him and Rooney now for POTY as voting starts soon.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2010, 07:55:27 PM
Enjoyed that.

I can't remember a Chelsea performance were 'we' very comfortable letting the opposition having as much of the ball as they wanted. The problem for Arsenal was that the ran into a superbly disciplined back four, with Ashley Cole especially excellent, and Mikel also have a great game in that protective role.

Up top, that man Drogba just terrorises Arsenal time and time and time again. He rarely touched the ball, bar the two goals, and his stunning free kick! However that's enough. Wenger was right, 'Drogba does nothing'.

Man of the match for me..... Petr Cech. Looked so fired up, and dominated his box with authority.

I think below is a cinematic portrayal of Arsenal v Chelsea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anEuw8F8cpE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anEuw8F8cpE)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Rocky Mc Guigan on February 07, 2010, 09:03:37 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on February 07, 2010, 06:18:32 PM
Drogba reigns supreme again v Arsenal.

Between him and Rooney now for POTY as voting starts soon.
Can't see many voting for a diving, whining ,posturing clown looking for a BAFTA-and the strength of a lion coupled with the pain threshold of a lamb.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on February 07, 2010, 09:05:13 PM
Quote from: Rocky Mc Guigan on February 07, 2010, 09:03:37 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on February 07, 2010, 06:18:32 PM
Drogba reigns supreme again v Arsenal.

Between him and Rooney now for POTY as voting starts soon.
Can't see many voting for a diving, whining ,posturing clown looking for a BAFTA-and the strength of a lion coupled with the pain threshold of a lamb.

Didnt stop Ronaldo winning it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2010, 09:15:54 PM
Quote from: Rocky Mc Guigan on February 07, 2010, 09:03:37 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on February 07, 2010, 06:18:32 PM
Drogba reigns supreme again v Arsenal.

Between him and Rooney now for POTY as voting starts soon.
Can't see many voting for a diving, whining ,posturing clown looking for a BAFTA-and the strength of a lion coupled with the pain threshold of a lamb.

All fair points, but people shouldn't hold that against Rooney, as he has been very good this season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 08, 2010, 10:42:40 AM
A cinematic portrayal of Chelsea v Arsenal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdt40v882Dw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdt40v882Dw)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2010, 06:38:34 PM
Ashley Cole out for 3 months.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on February 11, 2010, 06:58:01 PM
Big blow for Chelsea. Been playing very well this season. Will give Zhirkov a good run in the team though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2010, 06:59:54 PM
I think that injury alone has swung things in Uniteds favour. He had been playing as well as anyone this year, regardless of position.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Rocky Mc Guigan on February 11, 2010, 07:39:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 11, 2010, 06:38:34 PM
Ashley Cole out for 3 months.
My heart bleeds for the money grabbing little so and so- karma
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: stew on February 11, 2010, 07:48:11 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on February 11, 2010, 06:58:01 PM
Big blow for Chelsea. Been playing very well this season. Will give Zhirkov a good run in the team though.


Nah, they will buy Bridge and stick him  bac...................er nevermind.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on February 11, 2010, 07:52:36 PM
Quote from: stew on February 11, 2010, 07:48:11 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on February 11, 2010, 06:58:01 PM
Big blow for Chelsea. Been playing very well this season. Will give Zhirkov a good run in the team though.


Nah, they will buy Bridge and stick him  bac...................er nevermind.

Transfer window is closed.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2010, 08:26:03 PM
Quote from: Rocky Mc Guigan on February 11, 2010, 07:39:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 11, 2010, 06:38:34 PM
Ashley Cole out for 3 months.
My heart bleeds for the money grabbing little so and so- karma

I know, all the other players play "for the jersey".
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on February 11, 2010, 08:52:16 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 11, 2010, 06:59:54 PM
I think that injury alone has swung things in Uniteds favour. He had been playing as well as anyone this year, regardless of position.

so O' Shea Rio & vidic been out hasn't helped chelsea at all?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: stew on February 11, 2010, 11:44:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 11, 2010, 08:52:16 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 11, 2010, 06:59:54 PM
I think that injury alone has swung things in Uniteds favour. He had been playing as well as anyone this year, regardless of position.

so O' Shea Rio & vidic been out hasn't helped chelsea at all?

All clubs have injuries, injured players are no excuse for the likes of United and Chelsea, yes United have had one of the worst injury stricken seasons I have ever seen but they are also one of the biggest clubs in the world and they sit in second place, they have been forced to have a few players grow up early and long term that will stand to them.

Chelsea are a wee bit too strong however, but after this year I can see united winning three on the spin again, Chelsea are getting old, Liverpool are cream crackered and the Arse havent the dosh nor the squad size to do damage.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 12, 2010, 09:30:19 AM
This forces Capello's hand a bit now, he will surely need Bridge back in the side.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 12, 2010, 11:25:53 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 11, 2010, 08:52:16 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 11, 2010, 06:59:54 PM
I think that injury alone has swung things in Uniteds favour. He had been playing as well as anyone this year, regardless of position.

so O' Shea Rio & vidic been out hasn't helped chelsea at all?

I think O'Shea being out will help united more than chelsea. Useless cnut.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: new devil on February 12, 2010, 10:02:35 PM
 ::) ::) did you watch any united games last year??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: stew on February 12, 2010, 11:07:42 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on February 11, 2010, 07:52:36 PM
Quote from: stew on February 11, 2010, 07:48:11 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on February 11, 2010, 06:58:01 PM
Big blow for Chelsea. Been playing very well this season. Will give Zhirkov a good run in the team though.


Nah, they will buy Bridge and stick him  bac...................er nevermind.
I wasnt being serious archie. I do however see Bridge is open to playing for blighty again even with that kn**ker Terry in the same dressing room. I have no sympathy for Bridge at all either.
Transfer window is closed.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on February 13, 2010, 08:57:22 AM
I know you wern't but it was a poor attempt of a joke on your behalf.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on February 24, 2010, 06:53:43 PM
Well with Norf at the game time for others to keep a eye on this game tonight, should be a gud one  ;)

Inter team: Julio Cesar, Maicon, Zanetti, Samuel, Lucio, Cambiasso, Stankovic, Motta, Sneijder, Eto'o, Milito.

Chelsea team: Cech, Ivanovic, Malouda, Terry, Carvalho, Mikel, Ballack, Lampard, Kalou, Anelka, Drogba.

i would expect Few goals maybe even 0-0
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on February 24, 2010, 07:49:55 PM
1-0 already i guess we will have goals  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Denn Forever on February 24, 2010, 07:53:25 PM
Have they scored to early.  Jose's usual reaction would be to protect the lead but wouldn't want to invite Chelsea to attack.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on February 24, 2010, 08:53:08 PM
chelsea should have def had a penalty at the end of the first half.fancy them to grab an away goal they have settled well since they conceded but they look a little shakey still at the back
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 24, 2010, 08:56:40 PM
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on February 24, 2010, 08:53:08 PM
chelsea should have def had a penalty at the end of the first half.fancy them to grab an away goal they have settled well since they conceded but they look a little shakey still at the back

It was a penalty but Kalou's exagerated flaying of the arms above his head may have swung the referee's mind against Chelsea.

Chelsea just back to 1-1 - good finish from Kalou but the keeper should have had it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on February 24, 2010, 08:58:58 PM
just like AC last week inter are there for the taking now
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on February 24, 2010, 09:01:01 PM
lol i spoke too soon  :-X  the chelsea boys still have the away goal
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Declan on February 24, 2010, 09:10:28 PM
Enjoyable game. Ref is unbelievably poor though. Chelsea poor down the left as well Malouda and Kalou not really at the races despite his goal
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on February 24, 2010, 09:42:12 PM
that's it 2-1 great advert for Champions league football, very opened exciting game,

0-0 is quiet similar to tonight's result for Chelsea as 1-0 in the next leg will put them through

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: EC Unique on February 24, 2010, 10:23:47 PM
Good game. Draw would have been fair result. Cech looks like he is fooked and will be a masive loss in the premiership run in.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: magpie seanie on February 24, 2010, 10:56:52 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 24, 2010, 10:23:47 PM
Good game. Draw would have been fair result. Cech looks like he is fooked and will be a masive loss in the premiership run in.

I think they're better off without him, afraid of his own shadow these days.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 25, 2010, 09:29:52 AM
Not a bad game to watch.  I thought Chelsea didn't play brilliantly and gave the ball away a lot, Anelka was too deep and Ballack was back to his "I couldn't give a fiddlers" best.  A draw was probably a fair result as Inter seemd to "declare" at 2-1 up.  Unlike other posters here I didn't think the Kalou incident was a penalty.  I think Samuel?? made a geniuine attempt to play the ball, contact was fairly minimal and there was no need for Kalou to perform a double toe-loop somersault.  Also I thought Malouda did alright for a makeshift full back though he did struggle against Balotelli.  I agree with the ITV commentators (don't hear that much!!) in that Lampard looked a bit off the pace.  Lucio had a monster of a game for Inter and it was obvious he had studied tapes of Drogba as he played him very well and he (Lucio) doesn't half go down easily for a big man!!  Also good was Zanetti...what the hell age is he, he seems to have been around for ages.

The Cech injury is a bit of a blow but it seems it's his calf not his knee so it mightn't be as bad as first thought.  Although Cech has never been the same since the head injury, this season has been his best spell of form since then.  That leaves Chelsea with Hilario or Ross Turnbull ???

All in all both teams will think they can go through though Chelsea will need to play a hell of a lot better the next day.  I make Inter slight favourites.

PS...does anyone believe the Inter keeper's car crash story??  It's obvious the wife caught him doing a Tiger, JT, Cashley and gave him two shiners!! ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: EC Unique on February 26, 2010, 12:52:52 PM
Cech out for at least a month with torn calf muscle.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on February 27, 2010, 02:44:04 PM
Chelsea are so unreliable, for a team favourite to win the league. It seems that if they have a tough task at all they get beaten.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Lady GAA GAA on February 27, 2010, 02:45:21 PM
Complete abortion of a club. Main stand empty after about 80mins.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Schkite on February 27, 2010, 02:49:38 PM
Does nobody want to win this league? Every time one of the title contenders fcuks up the others follow suit. Only a couple of weeks ago Arsenal were dead and buried. Win their game in hand now and they're only 3 pts off the top with by far the easiest run in.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 27, 2010, 02:50:59 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 27, 2010, 02:44:04 PM
Chelsea are so unreliable, for a team favourite to win the league. It seems that if they have a tough task at all they get beaten.

With Cech and Cole injured and Terry playing like Paul McShane they look very poor at the back all of a sudden.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Schkite on February 27, 2010, 02:53:08 PM
Some nice words about Terry from Bellamy there!  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 02:53:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 27, 2010, 02:44:04 PM
Chelsea are so unreliable, for a team favourite to win the league. It seems that if they have a tough task at all they get beaten.

Could say the same about United & arsenal nobody wants to win it this year

too be fair, Chelsea were 1-0 up in total control city didn't even have a shot on target then two shots that cech would have saved cost them the game
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 28, 2010, 09:39:37 AM
A couple of bits and pieces first. I haven't really posted much on this thread over the last few weeks, as I have been busy, and the enthusiasm for doing so just wasn't there. I agree with a lot of people on here, when they say board standards have dropped.
I would also say that- and I know we are all tinted glass wearers- the hypocrisy of posters on here as well would sicken me.

Terry alledgedly sleeps around on his wife, and we get 13+ pages. UEFA screw Chelsea (again) and no-one bothers to mention it. Only one of the boards better posters passes comment. It was the same previously.
Terry is meant to (Found innocent btw) have spat on Tevez, another 12 pages of character assasination. Rooney found guilty of spitting, and it didn't even merit a mention by the rose tinted Mancs!

Anyhow...Wednesday first. The San Siro is a stunning stadium. I haven't been in too many of the 'great' stadiums, but so far this is easilly number one. The noise, and colour was incredible.
As for the game, dominated, but I just hope that a poor ref's decision doesn't cost us again!

Yesterday. The hand-shake. I thought Bridge was silly. He is obviously enjoying reading about his EX missus and his ex mate. If he had've shook hands, story over. Nothing to see here. That would've left the headline writters scrambling for a headline, and the story off the back page. However it suits Bridge to be painted as the good boy in all this. He too has plenty to hide.

The game itself was a bit topsy turvey. City were shit until Mikel, Carvalho, Hilario and Terry- in order of culpability- fucked up. With Chelsea chasing three points, it exposed the back five to City's formation based almost entirely on pace. So to that extent City got lucky. However to be fair City defended fairly well with the exception of Richards. I don't have the stats but I think he committed 6 or 7 fouls in the first half without sanction. Terry's first foul received yellow.

The one thing I would be proud of is Chelsea 'going' for the win. I'd rather lose 4-2 at home, than have to endure the tediousness of the recent City/ Lpool game where both sides essentially were shit scared to come and play football.

However Chelsea's problems stem from injuries to Ashley Cole, Jose Bosingwa and to a lesser degree Zhirkov. The formation relies on these guys to get wide from deep, opening the game and allowing Drogba, Anelka and Lampard more space. Note that for the second game in a row Chelsea had umpteen efforts, but few really good ones. The reason being that teams can pack the middle and deny the Chelsea hit men room. With these guys out, you need pace on the flanks, something that Chelsea aren't blessed with.

Malouda's redeployment at LB takes him out of the game, and Joe Cole- having his best game of the year- as usual got hooked. With no natural full backs, Ancellotti needs to take Anelka out of the action, and give the wide roles to Malouda and possibly Kalou (!!). However personally- and I realise he is protecting the kid- Kakuta would give us something here.

If Chelsea are forced to go central, you need power and pace, and Essien's absence is a handicap here.

The bright spot, is that the treble is still on  ;D and with no league games for a fortnight, there is the possability of Bosingwa and Essien being ready for then. All we need to do then is get our back five organised.....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on February 28, 2010, 10:08:09 AM
" Essien's absence is a handicap here."

Agree, totally different team with him at the helm.
Still expect Chelsea to win league.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: nrico2006 on February 28, 2010, 12:02:17 PM
United are far from the force of recent years, but I don't understand the view that Chelsea are favourites for the league. Big dip in standards over past year or two, and very ordinary especially of late. United look the better all round side, especially if they can get vidic and rio back. I don't understand how rio was classed as finished when he made a few errors that were due to injury affecting his performance, whereas terry cocks up in every game of late and it's just a bad run of form. Terry looks to have lost a bit of speed and sharpness, which was really evident when milito turned him during the week.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on February 28, 2010, 06:27:57 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 28, 2010, 09:39:37 AM


The San Siro is a stunning stadium. I haven't been in too many of the 'great' stadiums, but so far this is easilly number one. The noise, and colour was incredible.
As for the game, dominated, but I just hope that a poor ref's decision doesn't cost us again!



Good to hear to came home in one piece  ;)

Great footballing city Milan with a Great Stadium one of my Favourite grounds too, camp nou is the best i've been to & to think there gonna improve it even more, in the Terms of noise i don't think anyone could beat besiktas in istanbul

did you avail of the great tram service to & from the San Siro Norf?


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 28, 2010, 06:36:19 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 28, 2010, 12:02:17 PM
United are far from the force of recent years, but I don't understand the view that Chelsea are favourites for the league. Big dip in standards over past year or two, and very ordinary especially of late. United look the better all round side

I actually think Chelsea are the better all round side as they have more options than United who let's be honest are enormously reliant on Rooney who in fairness is having an incredible season and is avoiding injury. Chelsea seem to be struggling a bit though with Cech and Cole out injured and John Terry playing like a muppet at the back ever since he ended up on the front pages of the tabloids.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: new devil on February 28, 2010, 07:01:09 PM
Have to agree with that GBB....only for rooney this season united would be lucky to make the top 4..it showed against everton when he had his 1st bad game in a long time
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on February 28, 2010, 07:02:41 PM
indeed rooney is having a great season but this piece may surprise you
http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,25212,12038_5977021,00.html
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: new devil on February 28, 2010, 07:05:03 PM
Thats a load off bullshit ross....rooney does a lot more than just score goals...
Were do YOU think United would be this year without Rooney??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on February 28, 2010, 07:11:32 PM
Quote from: new devil on February 28, 2010, 07:05:03 PM
Thats a load off bullshit ross....rooney does a lot more than just score goals...
Were do YOU think United would be this year without Rooney??

Goals win games, of the rest what rooney does has been there in every other season!

he's having a season just like ronaldo had in 2007/08 in the Terms of goals

last couple of goals has come from berba>Valencia>Rooney & i think it's unfair not to give the others credit they deserve

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: new devil on February 28, 2010, 07:22:32 PM
Give Berba credit for what excatly!??
You still having answered my question! Were do you think United would be without Rooney??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on February 28, 2010, 07:43:23 PM
Quote from: new devil on February 28, 2010, 07:22:32 PM
Give Berba credit for what excatly!??
You still having answered my question! Were do you think United would be without Rooney??

Last season it was "Where would we be without Ronaldo?"
If Rooney or Drogba were not scoring or playing, were would they be.......

Don't give Berba & others credit?  I must've missed the goals where Rooney played a ball to himself, then Rooney ran and put in a wonderful first time cross before running into the box and heading in the ball into the net himself.

My point is United are one man team. His name is Alex Ferguson ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: new devil on February 28, 2010, 07:57:22 PM
Did you miss the month Drogba was gone to african nations cup??

Read my post...i didnt mention "others" only berbatov
Berbatov is a rest off space..
United didnt depend on Ronaldo has much as they depend on Rooney this season...rooney was as important if not more as ronaldo was to united the last few years


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on February 28, 2010, 08:11:16 PM
Quote from: new devil on February 28, 2010, 07:57:22 PM
Did you miss the month Drogba was gone to african nations cup??

Read my post...i didnt mention "others" only berbatov
Berbatov is a rest off space..
United didnt depend on Ronaldo has much as they depend on Rooney this season...rooney was as important if not more as ronaldo was to united the last few years
well that's your Opinion but

Berba has been one of united's best players for the last 7/8 games, maybe your watching the games on poor streams or something?

So united would have won the European cup in 2008 without Ronaldo then? how about if Fergie didn't sign Cantona where would united be now?

for me Drogba is as important to Chelsea as Rooney is to united but both teams can still win games without them!

P.S this is a Chelsea Thread i'm not talking anymore about United here

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: new devil on February 28, 2010, 08:14:48 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 28, 2010, 08:11:16 PM
Quote from: new devil on February 28, 2010, 07:57:22 PM
Did you miss the month Drogba was gone to african nations cup??

Read my post...i didnt mention "others" only berbatov
Berbatov is a rest off space..
United didnt depend on Ronaldo has much as they depend on Rooney this season...rooney was as important if not more as ronaldo was to united the last few years
well that's your Opinion but

Berba has been one of united's best players for the last 7/8 games, maybe your watching the games on poor streams or something?

So united would have won the European cup in 2008 without Ronaldo then? how about if Fergie didn't sign Cantona where would united be now?

for me Drogba is as important to Chelsea as Rooney is to united but both teams can still win games without them!

P.S this is a Chelsea Thread i'm not talking anymore about United here

Yea i think you should stop talking about United...anywere!!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on February 28, 2010, 08:31:18 PM
Quote from: new devil on February 28, 2010, 08:14:48 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 28, 2010, 08:11:16 PM
Quote from: new devil on February 28, 2010, 07:57:22 PM
Did you miss the month Drogba was gone to african nations cup??

Read my post...i didnt mention "others" only berbatov
Berbatov is a rest off space..
United didnt depend on Ronaldo has much as they depend on Rooney this season...rooney was as important if not more as ronaldo was to united the last few years
well that's your Opinion but

Berba has been one of united's best players for the last 7/8 games, maybe your watching the games on poor streams or something?

So united would have won the European cup in 2008 without Ronaldo then? how about if Fergie didn't sign Cantona where would united be now?

for me Drogba is as important to Chelsea as Rooney is to united but both teams can still win games without them!

P.S this is a Chelsea Thread i'm not talking anymore about United here

Yea i think you should stop talking about United...anywere!!!

(http://bshistorian.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/father-jack1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: nrico2006 on March 01, 2010, 09:02:06 AM
I read Tylers column on Thursday and wasn't surprised with his findings.  When it comes to the big games it seems that Chelsea need Drogba to be on form to win, but these arguments are pretty pish anyway.  United pay Ronney to do what he does and he does it well, you could go though every team and pick out their best player and say they would be this, that or the other without them.  The fact remains that Rooney is a United player, Drogba is a Chelsea player, and both are seemingly alot better than their competition at doing what they are supposed to do - score goals. 

United and Chelsea are both not as strong as they have been over the past 2 or 3 years, but I do feel United are the slightly better side with more width and balance.  No matter what Ancelotti says, Terry has really gone to the dogs.  I recall Rio Ferdinand having a few high profile errors when he was being troubled with injury which had limited his appearance and training time, and the media (and many posters on here) had a field day claiming he was finished.  How do the same people view Terry's current plight.  Very error prone and he seems to be pretty easily turned by opposing players (Milito during the week being the most obvious case).  Maybe the years have just caught up with the man.   

As for Drogba being at the African Nations cup, it was more of a case of a lucky fixture list for Chelsea over that period than anything else.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2010, 11:43:09 AM
NT gets his rant in on youtube, sorry NT but this made me think of you  :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTk2-3ymqI0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTk2-3ymqI0)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: EC Unique on March 01, 2010, 12:12:36 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2010, 11:43:09 AM
NT gets his rant in on youtube, sorry NT but this made me think of you  :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTk2-3ymqI0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTk2-3ymqI0)

:D :D :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 01, 2010, 08:11:37 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2010, 11:43:09 AM
NT gets his rant in on youtube, sorry NT but this made me think of you  :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTk2-3ymqI0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTk2-3ymqI0)

Spot on this one I'd say!  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 01, 2010, 08:18:01 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 28, 2010, 12:02:17 PM
United are far from the force of recent years, but I don't understand the view that Chelsea are favourites for the league. Big dip in standards over past year or two, and very ordinary especially of late. United look the better all round side, especially if they can get vidic and rio back. I don't understand how rio was classed as finished when he made a few errors that were due to injury affecting his performance, whereas terry cocks up in every game of late and it's just a bad run of form. Terry looks to have lost a bit of speed and sharpness, which was really evident when milito turned him during the week.

nrico- I think the issue with Rio is that injuries are affecting his game (I never said that by the way), and people are assuming that he is struggling to deal with and recover from those injuries. Terry's issues are more mental, and you'd imagine that he'll (Hopefully) bounce back. All the same don't fall into the trap of reading too many papers who like to illustrate that every goal against Chelsea is Terry's error. It suits their agenda. Injuries to Bosingwa, Alex, Carvalho, Cech, Ashley Cole and several other defenders have meant that Chelsea can't get a settled back four this season, which has also been a key factor.

Ross4life- I used the tram down to the ground, but the coppers took us off about 1/2 mile from the ground and bussed us in. Getting back to the centre was a pain in the arse afterwards after the obligatory 1 hour lock in, and then some fun with the Italian security service. We then had a wee encounter with Italian ultras about 1am... that's for another day though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on March 01, 2010, 08:59:41 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 01, 2010, 08:18:01 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 28, 2010, 12:02:17 PM
United are far from the force of recent years, but I don't understand the view that Chelsea are favourites for the league. Big dip in standards over past year or two, and very ordinary especially of late. United look the better all round side, especially if they can get vidic and rio back. I don't understand how rio was classed as finished when he made a few errors that were due to injury affecting his performance, whereas terry cocks up in every game of late and it's just a bad run of form. Terry looks to have lost a bit of speed and sharpness, which was really evident when milito turned him during the week.



Ross4life- I used the tram down to the ground, but the coppers took us off about 1/2 mile from the ground and bussed us in. Getting back to the centre was a pain in the arse afterwards after the obligatory 1 hour lock in, and then some fun with the Italian security service. We then had a wee encounter with Italian ultras about 1am... that's for another day though.

Yup English fan's traveling away from home always has these problems

but sounds alot like when i visit Anfield, where we are locked in for ages then the police escort us out

San Siro is Quiet a distance from City centre, did you get the high seats? & avoided the ticket rip off scam they have
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 01, 2010, 09:14:35 PM
Here is the view from my seat. Tickets were £34. Not sure if that's a rip off or not. The Mancs paid £20 odd to AC the week prior!


(http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs469.ash1/25758_363959818454_592853454_5129773_3899280_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on March 01, 2010, 09:28:12 PM
34 is about the average price, don't know why united would be just 20 as by the looks of it tickets were located in the same place ??? but if the Italians gets there hands on the tickets they sell 35 euros tickets for 80/90 euro
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 01, 2010, 09:44:50 PM
The United tickets were the same type of seats but on the opposite site of the ground. The SS has two away ends, and two home ends for obvious reasons. I think it was the choice of AC and Inter for pricing.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Jen Cui on March 02, 2010, 01:32:49 AM
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_01/drogba170507_468x620.jpg)

State of this lad!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 02, 2010, 07:33:33 AM
Interesting find for 1.30 in the morning!  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 03, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
Dubliner Conor Clifford gets his first start for the Ireland U21s tonight. Clifford is captain of the Chelsea youth squad that is into the last four of the FA youth cup. Looks a great prospect at present, but probably needs to bulk up a bit.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: AFS on March 03, 2010, 03:57:53 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 03, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
Dubliner Conor Clifford gets his first start for the Ireland U21s tonight. Clifford is captain of the Chelsea youth squad that is into the last four of the FA youth cup. Looks a great prospect at present, but probably needs to bulk up a bit.

Remember seeing that there are two Cliffords playing with Chelsea's youth teams. Is the other one a brother of this Conor lad?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 03, 2010, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 03, 2010, 03:57:53 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 03, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
Dubliner Conor Clifford gets his first start for the Ireland U21s tonight. Clifford is captain of the Chelsea youth squad that is into the last four of the FA youth cup. Looks a great prospect at present, but probably needs to bulk up a bit.

Remember seeing that there are two Cliffords playing with Chelsea's youth teams. Is the other one a brother of this Conor lad?

I thought that too when I first seen the name. Billy Clifford is the other lad, different colour and nationality.

Good spot though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on March 03, 2010, 10:54:43 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 03, 2010, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 03, 2010, 03:57:53 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 03, 2010, 03:16:07 PM
Dubliner Conor Clifford gets his first start for the Ireland U21s tonight. Clifford is captain of the Chelsea youth squad that is into the last four of the FA youth cup. Looks a great prospect at present, but probably needs to bulk up a bit.

Remember seeing that there are two Cliffords playing with Chelsea's youth teams. Is the other one a brother of this Conor lad?

I thought that too when I first seen the name. Billy Clifford is the other lad, different colour and nationality.

Good spot though.

Racist.

Reported.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on March 04, 2010, 05:40:02 PM
Tevez on Terry

"It's wrong. In my opinion, Terry has no moral code for what he did to Bridge. In my neighbourhood if you do that, you lose your legs, or more - you don't survive."

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 04, 2010, 09:07:00 PM
Quote from: Boycey on March 04, 2010, 06:06:56 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 04, 2010, 05:40:02 PM
Tevez on Terry

"It's wrong. In my opinion, Terry has no moral code for what he did to Bridge. In my neighbourhood if you do that, you lose your legs, or more - you don't survive."

Carlito trys a little too hard to be the fans favourite in my opinion.....

Wouldn't it have been some craic if City had beat Stoke in the replay, and faced Chelsea this Sunday!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on March 04, 2010, 09:13:02 PM
Indeed it would. While im disappointed City went out, this weekends break may be good for them as been playing alot of games in a short space of time and havent been used to it. And the fact that Chelsea would probably tank them as revenge for last week.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on March 04, 2010, 10:37:02 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 04, 2010, 09:07:00 PM
Quote from: Boycey on March 04, 2010, 06:06:56 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 04, 2010, 05:40:02 PM
Tevez on Terry

"It's wrong. In my opinion, Terry has no moral code for what he did to Bridge. In my neighbourhood if you do that, you lose your legs, or more - you don't survive."

Carlito trys a little too hard to be the fans favourite in my opinion.....

Wouldn't it have been some craic if City had beat Stoke in the replay, and faced Chelsea this Sunday!!

Yep & the Media would have loved it

But stoke won't be a easy Game, Arsenal needed a dodgy penalty vs a 10 Stoke team to finally Beat them last week!

Drogba will have to be on top form for this game
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 05, 2010, 01:20:49 PM
I see Jose Bosingwa is now out for the season and the World Cup. With Ashley Cole's absence this is a major blow. As I have said on countless occasions Chelsea's width comes from our full backs, and the absence of these two is a major inhibitor.

Not ideal, but CA needs to earn his corn now by producing a system that gives this width and balance without these two.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 05, 2010, 02:34:58 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 05, 2010, 01:20:49 PM
I see Jose Bosingwa is now out for the season and the World Cup. With Ashley Cole’s absence this is a major blow. As I have said on countless occasions Chelsea’s width comes from our full backs, and the absence of these two is a major inhibitor.

Not ideal, but CA needs to earn his corn now by producing a system that gives this width and balance without these two.

Isn't it true that Ferrreira was left out of the Champions League squad also in anticipation of Bosingwa's return?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on March 05, 2010, 03:10:41 PM
Can Carvalho or Alex play RB if hardy came to hardy and Ivanovic got injured?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 06, 2010, 09:47:39 AM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on March 05, 2010, 02:34:58 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 05, 2010, 01:20:49 PM
I see Jose Bosingwa is now out for the season and the World Cup. With Ashley Cole's absence this is a major blow. As I have said on countless occasions Chelsea's width comes from our full backs, and the absence of these two is a major inhibitor.

Not ideal, but CA needs to earn his corn now by producing a system that gives this width and balance without these two.

Isn't it true that Ferrreira was left out of the Champions League squad also in anticipation of Bosingwa's return?

Ferreria is not on the CL panel which in hindsight was an error. Especially considering his dexterity in playing anywhere across the back four.

Quote from: Minder on March 05, 2010, 03:10:41 PM
Can Carvalho or Alex play RB if hardy came to hardy and Ivanovic got injured?

Hmm. Dunno. They might be able to defend, but their ability to bomb forward is questionable. Injuries to Zhirkov, and young Sam Hutchinson haven't helped the situation either.

And to completely screw things up....

Michael Essien remains on crutches a month after the operation and is recovering in France.

A club source said: 'The news on Michael's not good. We all thought he'd be back playing again in four to six weeks.

'The second leg of the Champions League match with Inter Milan was talked about as the ideal comeback game.

'But he has no chance of making that now. We're not even sure he'll play again this season. If he does it won't be any time soon.'
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 07, 2010, 06:18:46 PM
And it's back to Wembley. Again!

Decent enough performance today, but not quite as good as the 'ITV experts' would make out.

Villa in the last four, so maybe I'll have to endure a pint with young Doogie Browser at some point that day!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on March 07, 2010, 06:23:24 PM
Yep it's Villa V Chelsea next, the winners should win the Cup

great chance for the others to get to a cup final though
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 08, 2010, 10:32:10 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 07, 2010, 06:18:46 PM
And it's back to Wembley. Again!

Decent enough performance today, but not quite as good as the 'ITV experts' would make out.

Villa in the last four, so maybe I'll have to endure a pint with young Doogie Browser at some point that day!
Lucky for you I am in Newcastle for a stag do that weekend, raging to be honest as I would have probably went over for the game.  League game on 27th March at the bridge too, Chelsea are going to have a big say in how our season pans out.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 08, 2010, 12:57:29 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 04, 2010, 05:40:02 PM
Tevez on Terry

"It's wrong. In my opinion, Terry has no moral code for what he did to Bridge. In my neighbourhood if you do that, you lose your legs, or more - you don't survive."

Judging by some reports Carlito could soon lose something...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: DuffleKing on March 08, 2010, 01:15:47 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on March 08, 2010, 12:57:29 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 04, 2010, 05:40:02 PM
Tevez on Terry

"It's wrong. In my opinion, Terry has no moral code for what he did to Bridge. In my neighbourhood if you do that, you lose your legs, or more - you don't survive."

Judging by some reports Carlito could soon lose something...

If that refers to what i think it does, you are a disgrace
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2010, 02:07:21 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on March 08, 2010, 01:15:47 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on March 08, 2010, 12:57:29 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 04, 2010, 05:40:02 PM
Tevez on Terry

"It's wrong. In my opinion, Terry has no moral code for what he did to Bridge. In my neighbourhood if you do that, you lose your legs, or more - you don't survive."

Judging by some reports Carlito could soon lose something...

If that refers to what i think it does, you are a disgrace

I fairness to QMP, I think and hope he is just refering to Tevez's marriage as he is reported to be having an affair. They're all the same those lads.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1256132/Carlos-Tevez-shares-hotel-room-model-wife-nurses-premature-baby--days-accused-John-Terry-having-moral-code.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1256132/Carlos-Tevez-shares-hotel-room-model-wife-nurses-premature-baby--days-accused-John-Terry-having-moral-code.html)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 08, 2010, 02:29:03 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on March 08, 2010, 01:15:47 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on March 08, 2010, 12:57:29 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 04, 2010, 05:40:02 PM
Tevez on Terry

"It's wrong. In my opinion, Terry has no moral code for what he did to Bridge. In my neighbourhood if you do that, you lose your legs, or more - you don't survive."

Judging by some reports Carlito could soon lose something...

If that refers to what i think it does, you are a disgrace

I am curious to what you thought he meant?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2010, 03:31:22 PM
I'm assuming his baby  :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 08, 2010, 05:04:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2010, 03:31:22 PM
I'm assuming his baby  :-\

Oh right. There are some idiots on this board, but I am sure none of them would ever stoop that low, and MQP obviously meant Tevez's balls after Sunday's tabloid stories.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 08, 2010, 05:13:10 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on March 08, 2010, 01:15:47 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on March 08, 2010, 12:57:29 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 04, 2010, 05:40:02 PM
Tevez on Terry

"It's wrong. In my opinion, Terry has no moral code for what he did to Bridge. In my neighbourhood if you do that, you lose your legs, or more - you don't survive."

Judging by some reports Carlito could soon lose something...

If that refers to what i think it does, you are a disgrace

Never entered my mind about the baby...but obviously did yours??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: DuffleKing on March 09, 2010, 12:55:01 PM

I obviously assumed his child. I don't see what other assumption could have been made given what you refer to now was not in the public domain
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 09, 2010, 01:48:48 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on March 09, 2010, 12:55:01 PM

I obviously assumed his child. I don't see what other assumption could have been made given what you refer to now was not in the public domain

Check out the "Carlos Tevez To Be Shot" thread...started on 7 Mar @ 10:59am...my post on this thread 8 Mar @ 12:57pm
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on March 15, 2010, 06:38:23 PM
Great quote by Jose Mourinho ahead of Inter's Champions League second leg at Chelsea: "Everybody knows Mourinho doesn't lose at Stamford Bridge. My record is unbeatable. It is amazing - we were so strong for such a long time."
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Puckoon on March 15, 2010, 06:41:05 PM
Joses boys fairly threw it away yesterday for cheap in the Serie A.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on March 15, 2010, 07:04:10 PM
yep 3-1 they were beat & Ac Milan are only 1pt behind them now  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on March 16, 2010, 07:51:51 PM
Inter will score tonight, so Chelsea will need to score 3
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: gerry on March 16, 2010, 07:53:13 PM
eto gets ten out of ten for that play acting roll
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on March 16, 2010, 09:20:59 PM
OUT
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: orangeman on March 16, 2010, 09:21:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 16, 2010, 09:20:59 PM
OUT

OVER AND OUT
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 16, 2010, 09:24:32 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 16, 2010, 09:20:59 PM
OUT

Do Chelsea now get in the Europa League??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on March 16, 2010, 09:25:16 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on March 16, 2010, 09:24:32 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 16, 2010, 09:20:59 PM
OUT

Do Chelsea now get in the Europa League??

No
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 16, 2010, 09:26:46 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 16, 2010, 09:25:16 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on March 16, 2010, 09:24:32 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 16, 2010, 09:20:59 PM
OUT

Do Chelsea now get in the Europa League??

No

My comment was tongue in cheek
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on March 16, 2010, 09:30:09 PM
Drogba doing a Drogba.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on March 16, 2010, 09:31:02 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on March 16, 2010, 09:26:46 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 16, 2010, 09:25:16 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on March 16, 2010, 09:24:32 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 16, 2010, 09:20:59 PM
OUT

Do Chelsea now get in the Europa League??

No

My comment was tongue in cheek

As was mine. Paul Merson has just said "Drog-baa is off in disgrace again". They will be looking to get the chains on him and put him back on the boat.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: new devil on March 16, 2010, 09:32:59 PM
He said all that?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on March 16, 2010, 09:33:28 PM
Chelsea fans in unison "fack off Mourinho".
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: EC Unique on March 16, 2010, 09:34:46 PM
Fair play to the special one. He is giving the 2 fingers to the russian tonight. ;D 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on March 16, 2010, 09:36:46 PM
Jose away down the tunnel before the end.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on March 16, 2010, 09:37:08 PM
Bad result for both Chelsea & man utd tonight! Inter will take some beating after that
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: EC Unique on March 16, 2010, 09:41:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 16, 2010, 09:37:51 PM
John Terry

;D

Showing his class again ::)

As much as I dislike Drogba I can't help but feel sorry for him. They were hanging off him every time the ball came near and the first time he does anything he gets red. Unreal he did not get a pen in the first half. Ah well :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on March 16, 2010, 09:43:25 PM
Ancelotti must be rippin. You wouldn't know it though. He could be 7-0 up and he'd still look like he hasn't had a movement in a few days.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on March 16, 2010, 09:45:25 PM
i can't imagine the like's of Lampard 31 Drogba 32 & Ballack 33 will get many more chances to win the champions league
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on March 16, 2010, 10:43:32 PM
Inter where brilliant tonight, really good value for the win.  Dont think Chelsea ever looked like winning the match bar the 5 minute good spell they had at the end of the 1st half.  Sneidjer's passiing was unreal, Frank Lampard at fault for the gaol, gave the ball away very cheaply which led to Sneidjer playing an unreal ball into the path of Eto'o, whom i was also very impressed with.  Eto's tracked runners (unlike Roanldahino las week) and got forward to support the attack when he was playing on the win.

If Inter can maintain that level of performance then they have a chance.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: under the bar on March 16, 2010, 10:44:22 PM
Poetic justice for Etoo at the club that his allegation of racial abuse fell on deaf ears.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: stiffler on March 16, 2010, 10:45:37 PM
utd wont be too scared of that inter team
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Denn Forever on March 16, 2010, 10:57:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 16, 2010, 09:45:25 PM
i can't imagine the like's of Lampard 31 Drogba 32 & Ballack 33 will get many more chances to win the champions league

So Man U don't have a hope with Neville 35, Scoles 35, Giggs 36?

Wayne Bridge must be lovin' this!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: under the bar on March 16, 2010, 11:13:56 PM
Quotei can't imagine the like's of Lampard 31 Drogba 32 & Ballack 33 will get many more chances to win the champions league

So Man U don't have a hope with Neville 35, Scoles 35, Giggs 36?

Perhaps you missed the point that Chelsea are out....not to mention that the players you quoted have 6 champions league medals between them   ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Denn Forever on March 16, 2010, 11:23:49 PM
My point being when they won their last Champions league medal they were Neville 33, Scoles 33, Giggs 34.

Still time for Chelsea.  Can only see Ballack bring jetisoned as he always seems to have be accomadated.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: under the bar on March 16, 2010, 11:43:57 PM
QuoteMy point being when they won their last Champions league medal they were Neville 33, Scoles 33, Giggs 34.

Still time for Chelsea.  Can only see Ballack bring jetisoned as he always seems to have be accomadated.

Sure there's still time but it's become an obsession now for Abramovic.   Ancelotti prob knows his p45 is in the post at the end of the season so who do Chelsea turn to now for Roman's quest for the holy grail?   
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on March 17, 2010, 01:17:36 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 16, 2010, 11:23:49 PM
My point being when they won their last Champions league medal they were Neville 33, Scoles 33, Giggs 34.

Still time for Chelsea.  Can only see Ballack bring jetisoned as he always seems to have be accomadated.

Giggs was 25 scholes 24 & neville 24 when they won their first Champions league! & in 2008 they where more Squad players than first teamers

the boat may have sailed out for those players i mentioned! 3 Semi finals & a final appearance but tonight a 2nd round knock out

IMO New players & new Style is what Chelsea need to bring home old big ears!

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: imtommygunn on March 17, 2010, 02:16:42 AM
Realistically Mourinho beat the team he built. He knew how to counter them because they were his players.

How much have Chelsea evolved since he left?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Rocky Mc Guigan on March 17, 2010, 07:27:57 AM
Class beats crass. Nearly as much enjoyment as when the philanderer fell on his backside in Moscow. Karma
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: new devil on March 17, 2010, 07:44:33 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 16, 2010, 09:37:51 PM
John Terry

;D

What did he do?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 17, 2010, 09:47:43 AM
Have to be quick here...no complaints. well beaten by a better team over both games.  But I have to say last night was the worst performance by a Chelsea team I can remember in a long time.  Slow, ponderous, no creativity, first touch poor, second touch worse, passing awful (how many passes went to a team mate at knee height or to an Inter player??), out muscled by Inter too.  Chelsea players looked like they were crapping themselves for the first half hour.  Only Turnbull can hold his head up, he did nothing wrong.  Missed the Drogba sending off so can't comment yet.  Chelsea out played and out fought.  On that performance It's Villa for the Cup and MU for the league!

Man Of The Tie...Javier Zanetti...head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch, hardly put a foot wrong over the 180 mins...not bad for a 52 year old ;D

On a more general point, football at the moment is of a very poor standard if AC Milan and Chlesea are two of the top 16 in Europe.  The match was actually very poor.  Also we saw yet more examples of soccer moving towards becoming virtually a non contact sport.  Some of the frees given to both sides were nothing short of ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Main Street on March 17, 2010, 11:40:43 AM
I'd agree with much of that QM. But I would not call that a poor match. It was about Inter and one of the most complete back 4 (or back 6) performances in a long time. Chelsea were surgically taken apart and painfully rendered impotent.
There was not much to Drogba's little stamp but the ref was looking at him and not where the ball was out on the wing. Full marks to that piece of officiating.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: nrico2006 on March 18, 2010, 09:22:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 17, 2010, 02:16:42 AM
Realistically Mourinho beat the team he built. He knew how to counter them because they were his players.

How much have Chelsea evolved since he left?

How much of 'Mourinho's Team' were there before he arrived?  I know he bought Drogba but alot of the main men in Chelsea's Title Winning seasons were already there before he arrived.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 21, 2010, 07:13:48 PM
Just back from a week in France, so only getting a chance to post now. Haven't read through the predictable last few pages.

Chelsea have made it handy for me in that they have produced two similar dispalys which makes it handy for me to sum up!

However first things first, and I am sure some of you will be keyboard comedians, but Chelsea's luck with respect to officials in the Champions league is shocking, and I very much agree with John Terry's sentiments on this over the weekend.

If what has happened to Chelsea over the last few seasons happened to one of the other so-called big sides of England they'd be a massive storm kicked up. The Kakuta incident, which people ignored is the tip of a very strange iceberg.

Look at their CL exits over the years. Monaco 2004 and the key goal over the two legs is punched into the net by the Monaco attacker, the ghost goal (I know, I know Cech etc), Friskagate where UEFA stated that Rijkaard had broken the rules, and then fined Mourinho, the failure to send Rio off in the CL final, last year's gross incompetance from Overbo, the Kalou incident in the first leg at the San Siro, and then Tuesday night's refereeing display!

He had four big calls on Tuesday night, and missed three of them. The one he spotted was the only one that was against Chelsea.

I appreciate that sometimes you'll get decisions, sometimes you'll not, but continually under UEFA's officiating we've lost out time after time. Take this, the Kakuta incident, and the fact that a leading UEFA official called Mourinho 'the enemy of football', and this was acceptable, and you wonder.

Anyhow. Parking all that. The performance itself- and today's for that matter- was devoid of ideas, leggy, and what looked like zero tactical inspiration. It looks like we have ran out of steam at the worst possible time, and this may be rash, but an overhaul of the playing staff may be required.

Time and time again, I have stated that Chelsea's width and invention is almost entirely focused on bombing wing backs. With Cole and Bosingwa injured, we have self annuled most of that threat. That's a bit of bad luck, but at the same time there should be a plan B.

Which takes me to Gael Kakuta. The lad's an obvious talent, and he could provide us with the Macheda affect this year. However his absence from the match day squad time after time is a curious one. The rumour is that the whole UEFA inquiry has put a lot of pressure on the lad, and that Chelsea are protecting him. If this is true fine, but a subs spot, and threw on for the last five minutes when inspiration is needed is an option surely. He is one of the few squad players to give us that wee bit of invention and creation.

It looks like we are going to have to go to OT and win now, which is no small task, and we've still another few games along the way which are far from easy.

As a closing positive, the youths won their away leg in the FA youth cup 1-0, so at least there is still something positive to report!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 22, 2010, 09:31:35 PM
FA youth Cup 2nd leg- Chelsea 4 Blackburn 0

The future's bright.....  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 23, 2010, 03:59:08 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 22, 2010, 09:31:35 PM
FA youth Cup 2nd leg- Chelsea 4 Blackburn 0

The future's bright.....  :P

First Bosingwa, then Essien, then Cole...now Slava Ivanovic out for at least a month...Chelsea not having too much luck here!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on March 24, 2010, 08:27:12 PM
Calamity James strikes again. That was funny.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 25, 2010, 09:40:16 AM
Crisis...what crisis.  Cheslea win all remaining games and a first double is theirs. ;)  I was looking at some stats last night...sad I know.  As we all know from some media outlets Man Utd have played all the football that we've seen this season and Wayne Rooney is a shoo-in for player of the year.

In the League Chelsea have scored 75 goals to Man Utd's 72
Man Utd have conceded 25 to Chelsea's 28

Wayne Rooney has scored 26 goals in 29 appearances
Didier Drogba has scored 24 goals from 26 appearances

Rooney is a much better player outside the box than Drogba
Drogba is a much better defender than Rooney

And Chelsea have been shite for most of the season ???

Is the general standard this season poor, are MU not as good as some people say, or are Chelsea better than they've been given credit for or a combination of some/all of these....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: AFS on March 25, 2010, 09:46:07 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on March 25, 2010, 09:40:16 AM
Crisis...what crisis.  Cheslea win all remaining games and a first double is theirs. ;)  I was looking at some stats last night...sad I know. As we all know from some media outlets Man Utd have played all the football that we've seen this season and Wayne Rooney is a shoo-in for player of the year.

In the League Chelsea have scored 75 goals to Man Utd's 72
Man Utd have conceded 25 to Chelsea's 28

Wayne Rooney has scored 26 goals in 29 appearances
Didier Drogba has scored 24 goals from 26 appearances

Rooney is a much better player outside the box than Drogba
Drogba is a much better defender than Rooney

And Chelsea have been shite for most of the season ???

Is the general standard this season poor, are MU not as good as some people say, or are Chelsea better than they've been given credit for or a combination of some/all of these....

Short memory. It's only a month or two ago that United were a useless, one man team and Chelsea were certs for the title. Look back on any of the football thread here for confirmation of this.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 25, 2010, 09:59:47 AM
Funny game last night, were 5-0 was a bit flattering on a Chelsea that huffed and puffed. However for me we looked much better when Joe Cole came on. Despite Cole not being overly involved, we looked so much better balance with a trio of Malouda, Drogba and Joe Cole. Suddenly Pompey's back four were strecthed and Lampard got into the game more.

Carlo take note.

We also got a bit of luck for a change last night, with Pompey having a good free kick shout turned down, and within 30 seconds James hitting the air shot!

Also good to see another 'youf' getting 30 minutes last night, with Patrick Van Aarnholt looking like a young Ashley Cole as he bombed forward.

Re the Drogba/ Rooney comparison.

Fairly detailed article here, with an interesting paragraph taken out.

http://www.bridgeviews.co.uk/ (http://www.bridgeviews.co.uk/)

Drogba's record so far against teams higher in the table is impressive: 23% of his goals have come against top four opposition. Rooney has only scored three goals against the top four (12%). In total, less than a third (31%) of Rooney's goals have come against teams in the top half of the league. While Rooney still has an opportunity to score against Chelsea to come, Drogba will face both United and Liverpool before the season is through.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 25, 2010, 10:04:00 AM
Although for some reason Chelsea's better performances have come against other so-called "Big Three" teams and also Liverpool, while they have struggled against shite like Blackburn & Wigan
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: AFS on March 25, 2010, 10:09:26 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 25, 2010, 09:59:47 AM
Re the Drogba/ Rooney comparison.

Fairly detailed article here, with an interesting paragraph taken out.

http://www.bridgeviews.co.uk/ (http://www.bridgeviews.co.uk/)

Drogba's record so far against teams higher in the table is impressive: 23% of his goals have come against top four opposition. Rooney has only scored three goals against the top four (12%). In total, less than a third (31%) of Rooney's goals have come against teams in the top half of the league. While Rooney still has an opportunity to score against Chelsea to come, Drogba will face both United and Liverpool before the season is through.

(http://www.ukgameshows.com/atoz/programmes/f/family_fortunes/bygraves_duhduhh.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 28, 2010, 02:18:58 AM
Before the game I would've gladly taken a scruffy 1-0 win. However to get three points AND boost the goal differance AND afford to rest Drogba makes it a near pefect result.

Again it's no coincidence that a regular 4-3-3 is employed and the result is as positive as it was. Credit to some of the support roles today i.e. Zhirkov, and Deco. The Russian was fantastic bursting forward, however I'd be nervous over his defending, and he lost Carew for the goal today.
Next week's game will be largely influenced by the battle between Malouda/ Zhirkov against Neville/ Valencia.

The other BIG decision CA has next Saturday is his centre forward. When Drogba plays we tend to knock it long quicker, and sometimes that isolates the Ivorian from the support players.
However with Anelka there, it's a much more patient, complex build up. It allows Malouda, and Lampard time to get forward and support.

It's an interesting dilema for next Saturday morning!

Interesting, interesting.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: EC Unique on March 28, 2010, 10:57:43 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 28, 2010, 02:18:58 AM
Before the game I would've gladly taken a scruffy 1-0 win. However to get three points AND boost the goal differance AND afford to rest Drogba makes it a near pefect result.

Again it's no coincidence that a regular 4-3-3 is employed and the result is as positive as it was. Credit to some of the support roles today i.e. Zhirkov, and Deco. The Russian was fantastic bursting forward, however I'd be nervous over his defending, and he lost Carew for the goal today.
Next week's game will be largely influenced by the battle between Malouda/ Zhirkov against Neville/ Valencia.The other BIG decision CA has next Saturday is his centre forward. When Drogba plays we tend to knock it long quicker, and sometimes that isolates the Ivorian from the support players.
However with Anelka there, it's a much more patient, complex build up. It allows Malouda, and Lampard time to get forward and support.

It's an interesting dilema for next Saturday morning!

Interesting, interesting.

If the out come was based only on this then, on current form, I think Utd would just edge it.

Chelsea really need to go for the win where as Utd would not be too dissapointed with a draw.

Interesting indeed.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on March 28, 2010, 11:27:13 AM
Some achievement by Chelsea to maintain such a strong title bid with the injuries they have and the off the field problems with Terry. I tip my hat to them.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 29, 2010, 09:35:41 AM
the missus woke me up this morning, she said, ''Get up, its eight'' I said, ''Oh f**k, have Chelsea scored again?''
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 03, 2010, 09:00:45 AM
Here we go then!

All the talk all week has been wall to wall coverage of Rooney's injury. Most commentators ignoring the Chelsea injury crisis in defence, but that's the way it seems to be these days. Ah well.

In truth, I am not sure if Rooney's absence will have a bearing on the game at all. It might be insipre mssrs Berbatov, Fletcher, Nani et all to raise their game and try to prove that they too can be 'big game players'. In addition, I don't recall Rooney having too many big games against Chelsea, although I stand to be corrected.

I still stand by last week's musings in that I think the game will be largely decided down the Chelsea left. Zhirkov has looked really dangerous going forward the last two or three games, but suspect at the back. Malouda has been in the form of his life the last month or so. Both up against Valencia, who I'd describe as dangerous but not the devastating a la Ronaldo, and Neville, who is experienced, but may be still wandering around looking for Ribery.

However the other side of the pitch will also have a big bearing. Evra and Nani up against Fererria and..... well that's where the decisions come in.

Does CA go with Joe Cole, who although has not made a big contribution to date, does give the side better balance, and opens things up. Does he go with Anelka, who has been supreme at times this season, but tends to drift infield too much and unbalances the team. In addition can he run the risk of Anelka going infield and leaving Fererria alone with Evra and Nani?

There is the option to play Anelka up top, and leave Drogba on the bench! Anelka's pace and movement could unsettle Vidic, and bring Lampard into the game much more. However away from home Drogba will be able to hold the ball up more, give the defence some time off, and his defensive abilities are an asset too. However the Ivorian has only one goal against United- all be it the winner in the Cup final.

Decisions, decisions.

I think he'll go with. Cech, Zhirkov, JT, Alex, Ferreria, Malouda, Mikel, Lampard, Ballack or Deco, Anelka and Drogba.

The ref too is also going to be huge factor. Dean has given more penalties than any other this season, and both managers will be aware of this. You might see numerous appeals for anything going in the box. From a Chelsea perspective we recall Dean changing the title race a few years back by incorrectly sending Mikel off at OT, and remember him making Frank retake the peno at Wet Sham three times this season? He is probably the most officious ref in the league, and I can almost guarantee he'll be the headline maker in the morning.

So time for the fun to start, and here is the controversial bit. No matter what the result today, I think Chelsea deserve to win the league, and the most honest of United fans must look in the mirror and wonder how are they still challanging. It's all down to which Chelsea turns up, and does CA get the tactics right today. If he does.... I think Chelsea will win it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 03, 2010, 10:36:04 AM
NT...I'm from the old school of the "table does not lie" however if Chelsea do go on to win it, it will be some achievement since they've been shite for most of the season!  Chelsea have played well against the other "good" sides this season and with Rooney out MU's goal threat is somewhat blunted and as long as Chelsea don't stick the ball in their own net their other major goal threat is taken care of too ;) though i thnk Berbatov has overtaken OGs as second top scorer??  Something tells me Chelsea can sneak this 1-0 maybe....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 03, 2010, 01:10:35 PM
Leave Ferguson and Wenger out of this
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 03, 2010, 02:41:09 PM
That makes things interesting....but still potential for many's the slip twixt cup and lip...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 03, 2010, 02:43:49 PM
Anyone hear the drunk Manc on 5Live?? :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 03, 2010, 03:05:25 PM
Chelsea's first double over MU in five years. 8)  No team has lost seven games and won the Prem.

Apprently Norf Tyrone is hammered already!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 03, 2010, 03:17:15 PM
Chelsea well worth the win. Maybe Liverpool away is the only place where they'll drop points but very impressive the last few weeks.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on April 03, 2010, 05:30:00 PM
the Fact that chelsea got 2 chances Scored 2 goals V united one chance one goal made them  deserved winners?

as for norf piece...I think Chelsea deserve to win the league, and the most honest of United fans must look in the mirror and wonder how are they still challanging

has been nothing between both teams all season both average at best

but i'm not gonna wait for 5 games

Congrats on your title success today
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on April 03, 2010, 05:31:52 PM
Ferguson has nothing on Ross4life when it comes to mind games 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: gawa316 on April 03, 2010, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 03, 2010, 05:31:52 PM
Ferguson has nothing on Ross4life when it comes to mind games

The old reverse pyschology nugget ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on April 03, 2010, 05:35:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 03, 2010, 05:31:52 PM
Ferguson has nothing on Ross4life when it comes to mind games

yeah right  ::) i have been right for most of season "this is one time i hope i'm wrong"

but Results like that today always win's titles
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 03, 2010, 07:20:09 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on April 03, 2010, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 03, 2010, 05:31:52 PM
Ferguson has nothing on Ross4life when it comes to mind games

The old reverse pyschology nugget ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVG2wrKQKtY
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 04, 2010, 01:09:45 AM
Well, well, well.

Another twist in the title race! Hopefully the last.

Without blowing my own trumpet, a fair bit of my preview above was on the money, with Malouda's victory over Neville and co having a big bearing on the game. In the first half Chelsea played with a patient tempo, that United could not cope with. The second half saw a bit more aggression from the Mancs, but they created precious few chances for the champions at home.

As for the other part of my preview the ref will probably make most of the headlines tomorrow. If you recall back in 2007, the same ref officiated the same fixture, incorrectly sent off Mikel, and allowed Tevez to score after injury time had elapsed. Today he had another stinker.

In order;

The Zhirkov challange on Park- Should've been a penalty. However if you watch it from Dean's angle again it looked like a dive.
Neville on Anelka- Clear penalty.
Lampard on Berbatov- No penalty.
Malouda handball- Definately not, as it hit his chest.
Drogba goal- Offside quite easilly.
Macheda goal- Definately handled, but it would've been a tight one for the ref to see, as it happened in a crowded box at pace.

So 2 right and 4 wrong! In addition he allowed Scholes and Neville to commit several fouls before carding them, and missed one terrible tackle by Ferdinand on Malouda when he scissor swiped him. Not a good day for him!

All in all, I thought Chelsea edged the game, and maybe just about had enough in the locker to win it.

Next up is Villa in the semi final next Saturday, but I still feel the 2009-10 league roller coaster has a few corners to turn yet.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on April 07, 2010, 07:28:49 AM
well no surprise here then

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/07/mike-dean-demotion-alex-ferguson
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Family guy on April 10, 2010, 05:11:27 PM
Some slipping on the surface here so far.
Chelsea def wana win this with the team they have out,united fans be hoping for injuries i think???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on April 10, 2010, 05:17:32 PM
i wonder will chelsea score with there first shot on Target today?

& that was a defo peno  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: thebigfella on April 10, 2010, 05:18:17 PM
and a possible red card too  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Family guy on April 10, 2010, 05:20:15 PM
Shoulda been a penalty surely,look at howard webb wat a homo,must b on the sun bed
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on April 10, 2010, 05:37:32 PM
35 mins gone & chelseas first Attempt on target & they don't Score  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on April 10, 2010, 06:35:57 PM


3-0 Final Score think villa Deserved better that

two major calls went chelseas way,leg breaker tackle by terry but no sending off & the penalty that should have been

have to feel for Villa after a great season & now end up with nothing

First Double for Chelsea looks a certain bet now
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 10, 2010, 09:24:04 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 07, 2010, 07:28:49 AM
well no surprise here then

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/07/mike-dean-demotion-alex-ferguson

Why did you feel the need to post this in the Chelsea thread and not your own thread?  ;D

Another great result made sweeter by the gnashing of teeth on here. Geezus Flo, Frank and Didier love the new Wembley!

Looks like JT was right again.... Villa don't so second halfs!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on April 10, 2010, 09:32:43 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 04, 2010, 01:09:45 AM


In order;

The Zhirkov challange on Park- Should've been a penalty. However if you watch it from Dean's angle again it looked like a dive.
Neville on Anelka- Clear penalty.
Lampard on Berbatov- No penalty.
Malouda handball- Definately not, as it hit his chest.
Drogba goal- Offside quite easilly.
Macheda goal- Definately handled, but it would've been a tight one for the ref to see, as it happened in a crowded box at pace.



were you not talking about the ref here?

As for you Gnashing of teeth bit??

no mention of terry tackle i see  ::)

(http://i42.tinypic.com/11vitko.gif)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/33b0ho2.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on April 10, 2010, 09:47:00 PM
Would you ever catch yourself on ross4life? I think everyone on here knows your not all there, and try to ignore most of your posts, but when trying to ignore you still manage to be very annoying . Give over FFS!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: gawa316 on April 10, 2010, 09:51:56 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on April 10, 2010, 09:47:00 PM
Would you ever catch yourself on ross4life? I think everyone on here knows your not all there, and try to ignore most of your posts, but when trying to ignore you still manage to be very annoying . Give over FFS!

To be fair that tackle looks feckin horrendous
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Archie Mitchell on April 10, 2010, 09:55:27 PM
Didn't see tackle and them gif's don't work on iPhone but that's not what I'm on about. It's just the constant nonsense that he spouts on here and I'm not the only one that thinks it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on April 10, 2010, 09:56:33 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on April 10, 2010, 09:47:00 PM
Would you ever catch yourself on ross4life? I think everyone on here knows your not all there, and try to ignore most of your posts, but when trying to ignore you still manage to be very annoying . Give over FFS!

I'm busy now. Can I ignore you some other time?

& Go ahead, tell them everything you know. It'll only take 10 seconds
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 11, 2010, 08:29:26 AM
Quote from: ross4life on April 10, 2010, 09:32:43 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 04, 2010, 01:09:45 AM


In order;

The Zhirkov challange on Park- Should've been a penalty. However if you watch it from Dean's angle again it looked like a dive.
Neville on Anelka- Clear penalty.
Lampard on Berbatov- No penalty.
Malouda handball- Definately not, as it hit his chest.
Drogba goal- Offside quite easilly.
Macheda goal- Definately handled, but it would've been a tight one for the ref to see, as it happened in a crowded box at pace.




no mention of terry tackle i see  ::)


You never answered my original question.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 11, 2010, 09:33:37 AM
Anyway for the adults.

A fairly scrappy game, made so mainly be a truly awful pitch. I feel sorry for the Pompey and Spurs players playing in its second game in 24 hours.

Torn between the 'Chelsea were rubbish in the first half' and 'Chelsea soaked it up, and then hit Villa when they tired' theories. Villa's first half penalty claim was probably a fair one. I don't think it was as clear cut as some believe but I have seen them given, and would've been whining had the roles been reversed.
However I thought Chelsea's two centre halves were magnificent, and for me Alex was the MOTM. For all Villa's posession and supremecy, they rarely bothered Cech.

The second half was a different story, and I didn't see Villa getting back into it when Chelsea went 1 up. Since the new Wembley opened in 2007 off the top of my head that's Chelsea's 7th visit, winning 5 and losing two (Inc pen shoot outs). Amazingly the only Chelsea players to score there were Flo, Drogba and Lampard, and so it was again yesterday.
For the second week in succession, Ancellotti got his subs right, with all three making telling contributions as the game went on.

I have seen players get red cards get red cards for the Terry tackle, and can see the arguement for it. However I believe Milner was attempting to clear, and Terry was trying to block. Anyone who has played the game will know you can't avoid the studs being up for challanges like that. JT's timing was slightly out, and he only got the meerest of touches on the ball.

Anyhow. After waiting, and waiting, and waiting to see Chelsea reach a cup final, that's now 7 in 16 years!

Great stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Carmen Stateside on April 11, 2010, 10:51:19 AM
How did Terry get away with that tackle?
Surely the FA will take action! :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on April 11, 2010, 12:02:06 PM
you were the one talking about the Ref in the United v Chelsea game so i posted that piece in the appropriate place

terry tackle yesterday was far worse than Nani v villa & he got a sending off & a three game ban

& little details like that & the penalty not awarded can change the outcome of a game as Wednesday proved

one thing is for sure you can't complain Chelsea got there fair share of luck this Season

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 12, 2010, 12:35:37 AM
Quote from: ross4life on April 11, 2010, 12:02:06 PM
you were the one talking about the Ref in the United v Chelsea game so i posted that piece in the appropriate place

terry tackle yesterday was far worse than Nani v villa & he got a sending off & a three game ban

& little details like that & the penalty not awarded can change the outcome of a game as Wednesday proved

one thing is for sure you can't complain Chelsea got there fair share of luck this Season

So did no one mention the ref's performance in the United thread????? You are a chancer!  ;D

Luck? Luck? Last week at OT, both teams were equally aggrieved at the ref. Both having a goal incorrectly given, and a penalty turned down.

And all the talk of Terry's tackle yesterday yet your stato memory has obviously forgotten Evans' karate kick on Drogba at SB earlier this season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on April 12, 2010, 12:55:17 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 12, 2010, 12:35:37 AM
Quote from: ross4life on April 11, 2010, 12:02:06 PM
you were the one talking about the Ref in the United v Chelsea game so i posted that piece in the appropriate place

terry tackle yesterday was far worse than Nani v villa & he got a sending off & a three game ban

& little details like that & the penalty not awarded can change the outcome of a game as Wednesday proved

one thing is for sure you can't complain Chelsea got there fair share of luck this Season

So did no one mention the ref's performance in the United thread????? You are a chancer!  ;D

Luck? Luck? Last week at OT, both teams were equally aggrieved at the ref. Both having a goal incorrectly given, and a penalty turned down.

And all the talk of Terry's tackle yesterday yet your stato memory has obviously forgotten Evans' karate kick on Drogba at SB earlier this season.

Totally agree with you about both teams Aggrieved by the Ref last weekend that's why i said no surprise that he got dropped a level this weekend
yes i have forgotten the Evans Karate kick (that wouldn't have made a difference anyways) like you have forgotten that winning goal (never a free kick, a foul & offside)

But like i said last weekend congratulations to Chelsea. In a season where it seemed nobody wanted to win the title they have at least showed championship form against the other three "big four" sides. I have no doubt they will complete the double over Liverpool at anfield like they have against united and Arsenal. Carlo Ancelotti is an effective manager and seems to know how to get the best out of the Chelsea players

& i'm already looking forward to the we want out trophy back chants in old Trafford next season

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 12, 2010, 01:04:32 AM
Quote from: ross4life on April 12, 2010, 12:55:17 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 12, 2010, 12:35:37 AM
Quote from: ross4life on April 11, 2010, 12:02:06 PM
you were the one talking about the Ref in the United v Chelsea game so i posted that piece in the appropriate place

terry tackle yesterday was far worse than Nani v villa & he got a sending off & a three game ban

& little details like that & the penalty not awarded can change the outcome of a game as Wednesday proved

one thing is for sure you can't complain Chelsea got there fair share of luck this Season

So did no one mention the ref's performance in the United thread????? You are a chancer!  ;D

Luck? Luck? Last week at OT, both teams were equally aggrieved at the ref. Both having a goal incorrectly given, and a penalty turned down.

And all the talk of Terry's tackle yesterday yet your stato memory has obviously forgotten Evans' karate kick on Drogba at SB earlier this season.

Totally agree with you about both teams Aggrieved by the Ref last weekend that's why i said no surprise that he got dropped a level this weekend
yes i have forgotten the Evans Karate kick (that wouldn't have made a difference anyways) like you have forgotten that winning goal (never a free kick, a foul & offside)

But like i said last weekend congratulations to Chelsea. In a season where it seemed nobody wanted to win the title they have at least showed championship form against the other three "big four" sides. I have no doubt they will complete the double over Liverpool at anfield like they have against united and Arsenal. Carlo Ancelotti is an effective manager and seems to know how to get the best out of the Chelsea players

& i'm already looking forward to the we want out trophy back chants in old Trafford next season

Fair enough. Although I have not forgotten Terry's goal at SB. However it was not the only thing the ref got wrong that day too!

Night night..
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: new devil on April 12, 2010, 03:05:56 AM
Congrats Norf...keep it clean for us we'll be back next year for it  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Boycey on April 12, 2010, 10:39:55 AM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on April 10, 2010, 09:55:27 PM
Didn't see tackle and them gif's don't work on iPhone but that's not what I'm on about. It's just the constant nonsense that he spouts on here and I'm not the only one that thinks it.

Sure ur as bad.... U just can't see it. Wandering around the thread like some kind of moral guardian but when someone comes back at ya with valid points u just leave the discussion.. Cyber warrior
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 14, 2010, 01:20:11 AM
Geezus that was scrappy.

Again frustratingly CA reverts back to a team without wingers. Fortunately it did not cost tonight.
Illustrated perfectly via the fact that Lampard did not have one shot on goal until the 81st minute- just a few minutes after Joe Cole's arrival. Cole and Malouda's arrival opened the game up a bit, and allowed Lampard to come forward.

10 points from 12 required. Still a long wayyy to go.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 14, 2010, 09:10:19 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 14, 2010, 01:20:11 AM
Geezus that was scrappy.

Again frustratingly CA reverts back to a team without wingers. Fortunately it did not cost tonight.
Illustrated perfectly via the fact that Lampard did not have one shot on goal until the 81st minute- just a few minutes after Joe Cole's arrival. Cole and Malouda's arrival opened the game up a bit, and allowed Lampard to come forward.

10 points from 12 required. Still a long wayyy to go.

I had to laugh at 5Live this morning..."this win moves Chelsea to within 10 points of the Premiership title".  There's only 12 points left to play for FFS!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: magpie seanie on April 14, 2010, 05:54:36 PM
No mention of the 2 stonewall penalties not given to Bolton last night then?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on April 14, 2010, 06:09:22 PM
Coyle: "Drogba can play world class volleyball for anyone"


anyways this was the linemans reaction to the penalty's

(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8354/vampirref.jpg)



Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 14, 2010, 08:17:56 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 14, 2010, 05:54:36 PM
No mention of the 2 stonewall penalties not given to Bolton last night then?

But they weren't stonewall.
In fact the first appeal for Drogba's handball was missed by the commentary team on the night, and they were bemused when Coyle argued with the ref as he came off the field.

Was it penalty? Maybe. Maybe not. I think Drogba got a wee push from Davies which threw him off balance.

The second one was a big appeal, and the more I see it, the less I think it was a penalty. Unfortunately there appears to be no camera at the linesman's side to justify or rubbish his decision. To be it looked as if JT- arms by his side- got the chest to it. However the TV angle is inconclusive.

Also for the record Chelsea had a shout against Zat Knight very similar to the Drogba one. I don't think Coyle mentioned that one (Much the same way as O'Neill did not mention Collins' tackle on Malouda at the weekend, nor the poor refereeing decisions that aided their victory over Palace in the Cup). I didn't think the Knight hand ball was a penalty either.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: magpie seanie on April 14, 2010, 09:55:53 PM
Norf - don't want to piss you off cos you're one of the better contributers but they were two absolutely clearcut penalties. We're all guilty of bias but I think you're defending the indefensible here. I think Drogba knew exactly what he was at and as for Terry - arm was out and clearly made contact with the ball. The guilty head on him afterwards was hilarious.

I cannot comment on the Zat Knight or Collins incidents as I didn't see them.

Another good result for you tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 14, 2010, 10:26:43 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 14, 2010, 09:55:53 PM
Norf - don't want to piss you off cos you're one of the better contributers but they were two absolutely clearcut penalties. We're all guilty of bias but I think you're defending the indefensible here. I think Drogba knew exactly what he was at and as for Terry - arm was out and clearly made contact with the ball. The guilty head on him afterwards was hilarious.

I cannot comment on the Zat Knight or Collins incidents as I didn't see them.

Another good result for you tonight.

We'll agree to disagree then on the penalty shouts.

One of the good things/ problems this year is that CA rarely comes out and criticises the referees for any injustices (And we've had our share). However mssrs Coyle, O'Neill and Fergie are never shy of being shown live on SKY or BBC goldering their dismay at their perceived injustices.

We all know that this sensationalism is what the TV companies love, so you see Sky Sports looping all day this 'Chelsea got lucky line'. The problem is that people start to buy it.

I firmly believe that we deserve to win the title this year, but still think that with the fixtures that are left that there could be many a twist yet. Can you imagine United and Spurs winning this weekend- both results possible? That would leave Chelsea a point to the good with a trip to Liverpool to come.

One game at a time sweet geezus.  :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on April 14, 2010, 10:28:05 PM
Chelsea have it won, and deservedly so. Best all-round side in the league this year.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: magpie seanie on April 14, 2010, 10:31:07 PM
Its actually easier to imagine Spurs beating Chelsea than United beating city. I think Chelsea will drop points this weekend but am not at all confident United will win at wastelands. United dropping the points at Blackburn was criminal.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on April 14, 2010, 10:33:05 PM
The team that finishes top always deserve to win the title, even in 1995 i admitted it while chewing glass  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Boycey on April 14, 2010, 11:26:33 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 14, 2010, 10:26:43 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 14, 2010, 09:55:53 PM
Norf - don't want to piss you off cos you're one of the better contributers but they were two absolutely clearcut penalties. We're all guilty of bias but I think you're defending the indefensible here. I think Drogba knew exactly what he was at and as for Terry - arm was out and clearly made contact with the ball. The guilty head on him afterwards was hilarious.

I cannot comment on the Zat Knight or Collins incidents as I didn't see them.

Another good result for you tonight.



We'll agree to disagree then on the penalty shouts.

One of the good things/ problems this year is that CA rarely comes out and criticises the referees for any injustices (And we've had our share). However mssrs Coyle, O'Neill and Fergie are never shy of being shown live on SKY or BBC goldering their dismay at their perceived injustices.

We all know that this sensationalism is what the TV companies love, so you see Sky Sports looping all day this 'Chelsea got lucky line'. The problem is that people start to buy it.

I firmly believe that we deserve to win the title this year, but still think that with the fixtures that are left that there could be many a twist yet. Can you imagine United and Spurs winning this weekend- both results possible? That would leave Chelsea a point to the good with a trip to Liverpool to come.

One game at a time sweet geezus.  :-\

I take ur point about Sky and sensationalism but do you not think they would run a loop about United or Arsenal or Liverpool "getting lucky" in the same situation, of course they would and have done so after all they have 24hours of non stop shite to fill. For what its worth I thought Chelsea did get lucky on this occasion as both looked nailed on penos to me.

THe weekend is nicely set up with the way the matches fall, if and its a huge if, United can somehow garner three points at Eastlands it'll make Chelseas trip to Spurs so much harder. I think the draw at Blackburn has cost United a realistic shot at winning the league though
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: EC Unique on April 17, 2010, 06:55:16 PM
Are the old nerves playing up with the finish line in sight :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: AFS on April 17, 2010, 07:00:35 PM
Is that Terry gone for the season? One match ban for the red and another two for it being his tenth yellow?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: EC Unique on April 17, 2010, 07:02:31 PM
Hope so :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 17, 2010, 07:11:31 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 14, 2010, 10:31:07 PM
Its actually easier to imagine Spurs beating Chelsea than United beating city. I think Chelsea will drop points this weekend but am not at all confident United will win at wastelands. United dropping the points at Blackburn was criminal.
6 pointer today.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: AFS on April 17, 2010, 07:24:58 PM
Carlo time  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on April 17, 2010, 07:29:54 PM
That goal of Lampards might turn out to be very important.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 17, 2010, 07:34:58 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2010, 07:29:54 PM
That goal of Lampards might turn out to be very important.

Only if United get 2 wins and a draw and Chelsea lose a match.

Spurs (h), Sunderland (a) and Stoke (h) for United

Stoke (h), Liverpool (a) and Wigan (h) for United.

Its still Chelsea's to lose though the margin for error has dimished significantly. Hopefully from United's perspective Wigan lose their next 2 to put them in the relegation mire by the time Chelsea visit. You want mid-table teams with no prospect of Europe at this stage of the season which is what United have in the last 2 matches. Spurs will be full of confidence heading to Old Trafford on Saturday though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on April 17, 2010, 08:12:57 PM
Interesting set of results today, i wouldnt like to play that spurs team next
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on April 17, 2010, 08:27:59 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 17, 2010, 08:12:57 PM
Interesting set of results today, i wouldnt like to play that spurs team next

I have a feeling you won't make the squad Ross. They will be a totally different proposition away from home.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: tyroneboi on April 17, 2010, 08:32:40 PM
Quote from: AFS on April 17, 2010, 07:00:35 PM
Is that Terry gone for the season? One match ban for the red and another two for it being his tenth yellow?

Thought I read during the week that all yellow cards were wiped so that means no more suspensions for yellow card accumulated so think he might get away with just the one game ban.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on April 17, 2010, 09:16:59 PM
Quote from: tyroneboi on April 17, 2010, 08:32:40 PM
Quote from: AFS on April 17, 2010, 07:00:35 PM
Is that Terry gone for the season? One match ban for the red and another two for it being his tenth yellow?

Thought I read during the week that all yellow cards were wiped so that means no more suspensions for yellow card accumulated so think he might get away with just the one game ban.

Correct, he was unlucky with the penalty.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: AFS on April 17, 2010, 09:23:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2010, 09:16:59 PM
Quote from: tyroneboi on April 17, 2010, 08:32:40 PM
Quote from: AFS on April 17, 2010, 07:00:35 PM
Is that Terry gone for the season? One match ban for the red and another two for it being his tenth yellow?

Thought I read during the week that all yellow cards were wiped so that means no more suspensions for yellow card accumulated so think he might get away with just the one game ban.

Correct, he was unlucky with the penalty.

Yeah, David Pleat put me straight shortly after I had posted this.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: magpie seanie on April 17, 2010, 10:00:03 PM
The way Terry is playing I'm not sure I'm happy he is going to be suspended! Was a very lucky boy earlier with Defoe. Had to laugh at him when he was coming off claiming he got the ball both times. He can have no complaints about the red card or the penalty for that matter.

There will be more twists and turns to this before the end of the season. Quite possible goal difference could come into it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 17, 2010, 10:57:23 PM
What was that p***k drogba the diver at at the start of the second half, didnt fancy it so he faked a groin injury, wasnt allowed to go off cause there were no more subs allowed, and proceeded to play for the next 45 ! WTF !!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on April 17, 2010, 11:12:58 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 17, 2010, 10:00:03 PM
The way Terry is playing I'm not sure I'm happy he is going to be suspended! Was a very lucky boy earlier with Defoe. Had to laugh at him when he was coming off claiming he got the ball both times. He can have no complaints about the red card or the penalty for that matter.

There will be more twists and turns to this before the end of the season. Quite possible goal difference could come into it.

I thought the pen was harsh, he tucked his arm behind him when the ball came to him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Marty2002 on April 17, 2010, 11:41:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2010, 11:12:58 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 17, 2010, 10:00:03 PM
The way Terry is playing I'm not sure I'm happy he is going to be suspended! Was a very lucky boy earlier with Defoe. Had to laugh at him when he was coming off claiming he got the ball both times. He can have no complaints about the red card or the penalty for that matter.

There will be more twists and turns to this before the end of the season. Quite possible goal difference could come into it.

I thought the pen was harsh, he tucked his arm behind him when the ball came to him.

Never. Makes up for the blatant penalty that should have been giving earlier on bale, out played and out classed, simple as,
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on April 17, 2010, 11:43:52 PM
Quote from: Marty2002 on April 17, 2010, 11:41:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2010, 11:12:58 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 17, 2010, 10:00:03 PM
The way Terry is playing I'm not sure I'm happy he is going to be suspended! Was a very lucky boy earlier with Defoe. Had to laugh at him when he was coming off claiming he got the ball both times. He can have no complaints about the red card or the penalty for that matter.

There will be more twists and turns to this before the end of the season. Quite possible goal difference could come into it.

I thought the pen was harsh, he tucked his arm behind him when the ball came to him.

Never. Makes up for the blatant penalty that should have been giving earlier on bale, out played and out classed, simple as,

So it shouldn't have been a penalty or it should have because of some injustice against the Jews earlier this year?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Marty2002 on April 17, 2010, 11:46:43 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2010, 11:43:52 PM
Quote from: Marty2002 on April 17, 2010, 11:41:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2010, 11:12:58 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 17, 2010, 10:00:03 PM
The way Terry is playing I'm not sure I'm happy he is going to be suspended! Was a very lucky boy earlier with Defoe. Had to laugh at him when he was coming off claiming he got the ball both times. He can have no complaints about the red card or the penalty for that matter.

There will be more twists and turns to this before the end of the season. Quite possible goal difference could come into it.

Sad.

I thought the pen was harsh, he tucked his arm behind him when the ball came to him.

Never. Makes up for the blatant penalty that should have been giving earlier on bale, out played and out classed, simple as,

So it shouldn't have been a penalty or it should have because of some injustice against the Jews earlier this year?

Sad.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on April 17, 2010, 11:51:02 PM
So you are unable to answer te question? Good lad.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Marty2002 on April 17, 2010, 11:52:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2010, 11:51:02 PM
So you are unable to answer te question? Good lad.

Your a funny guy, wish u were my mate.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on April 18, 2010, 12:04:38 AM
Quote from: Marty2002 on April 17, 2010, 11:52:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2010, 11:51:02 PM
So you are unable to answer te question? Good lad.

Your a funny guy, wish u were my mate.

I refer you to my previous post. Either shit or get off the pot. No humour intended.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Marty2002 on April 18, 2010, 12:22:23 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 18, 2010, 12:04:38 AM
Quote from: Marty2002 on April 17, 2010, 11:52:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2010, 11:51:02 PM
So you are unable to answer te question? Good lad.

Your a funny guy, wish u were my mate.

I refer you to my previous post. Either shit or get off the pot. No humour intended.

hahaha yea mate it was a pen imo,
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 18, 2010, 11:50:23 PM
All week people have been telling me 'league's over', 'congratulations', 'you canna lose it now', 'have you lost weight'.

I added the last one to cheer myself up. However I have been sincerly predicting that there was still a loooong way to go, and lo and behold it comes to pass.

The problem this season is that Chelsea have ridden a roller-coaster from sheer class to utter ineptitude. Our strengths - icy resolve and ruthless defending - have become our weaknesses as we have lost concentration and shown wilful complacency bordering on negligence. It took two minutes of scrutiny to know we were in trouble at Tottenham. Three out of every four passes were going backwards and running off the ball was non-existent.

Ancelotti's team selection was simply wrong (In hindsight) and John Terry's neglect of the common good was at best selfish and petulant and at worse punishable.

I thought before the game that CA's selection was fine. It had the required width, although I still think with Lampard, Mikel and Deco we lack pace. However there are few alternatives to that at the minute.
However the whispers are that Ferreria (Fever), Mikel and Drogba (hernia) were all selected while carrying injuries. In truth we looked like a team playing with 8 men at times.
Spurs were excellent, defended well, and threatened nearly every time they came forward (Keep it up lads). Chelsea were just awful. The most annoying thing is that not one player wanted to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and pull us out of our slumber. There is a pride about Chelsea re the number of international captains in the dressing room. Where were they yesterday evening?

I thought the penalty was harsh (Notice how shite ESPN's camera angles are), however I think we've been on the right side of a few 50, 50s over the last week so something had to go the other way. However JT really let himself down yesterday, his second booking was stupid as Bale (?) was going nowhere when he tackled. I think someone said that Terry uttered coming off that he had got the ball twice. However I think he said 'two fouls'. In other words he had only two fouls, and got two cards. No excuses yesterday captain.

So that takes the roller coaster to next Sunday and Stoke. Rory Delap, long throws, no JT and no Carvalho. Should be fun!!!

Winning the lerague is all about mental attitude. we have a far better chance of winning all our remaining three games than Man U do but also a far better chance of losing all three.

I think I'd enjoy this more being 20 points behind. Still top of the league........ Just!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on April 19, 2010, 12:11:00 AM
i Can't help feeling Chelsea let there foot off the pedal believing the media hype "league is won" Liverpool game will show a true reflection of where this team are & a major boost with torres out

But have been saying no one wants to win it this season & sky must be loving every bit of the title run in






Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Eastern_Pride on April 19, 2010, 03:21:11 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 19, 2010, 12:11:00 AM
i Can't help feeling Chelsea let there foot off the pedal believing the media hype "league is won" Liverpool game will show a true reflection of where this team are & a major boost with torres out

But have been saying no one wants to win it this season & sky must be loving every bit of the title run in
I'm beginning to feel afraid that Liverpool will feel that they have to prove they can play big without Torres, however i think Stoke may be a more significant hurdle.
Sky, on the other hand seem to be insinuating, in typical B-Movie style, that the fate of the world decides on this event...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on April 19, 2010, 06:51:51 PM
Well as we all know Stoke have to play both Chelsea & united away

here's there Away record so far.. Won 3     Drew 8     lost 5     Scored 9      let in 16     

from that viewing they are hard to beat on their travels! it will be interesting to see how they fare in Old Trafford & Stamford Bridge
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 19, 2010, 08:40:26 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 19, 2010, 06:51:51 PM
Well as we all know Stoke have to play both Chelsea & united away

here's there Away record so far.. Won 3     Drew 8     lost 5     Scored 9      let in 16     

from that viewing they are hard to beat on their travels! it will be interesting to see how they fare in Old Trafford & Stamford Bridge

Defensivelly Stoke are very good, hence why I ain't looking any further that this Sunday. The tightness of the pitch at SB will suit them too.

I just wish the league was over now. F**king hating it!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: new devil on April 19, 2010, 09:07:09 PM
It is over Norf..yous have it in the bag  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 20, 2010, 09:09:08 AM
Now Mikel crocked...but Essien to return?? - From the Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/20/michael-essien-chelsea-stoke-city

Chelsea's preparations for their potentially pivotal Premier League match against Stoke City on Sunday have been further disrupted after Mikel John Obi, their first-choice defensive midfielder, succumbed to a knee injury.The Nigerian, a regular in the side since Michael Essien suffered hamstring and knee injuries, is not expected to feature in a game Chelsea must win after Sunday's defeat at Tottenham Hotspur shaved their advantage at the top of the Premier League to a solitary point.Mikel hobbled off after 33 minutes of the game at White Hart Lane and, although Chelsea are continuing to scrutinise the extent of the injury, he stands little chance of featuring on Sunday.It would leave Carlo Ancelotti without a natural defensive midfielder against Stoke, forcing the manager to deploy Michael Ballack or Deco in an unfamiliar holding role. Essien has not played for Chelsea since the Champions League group game at home to Apoel Nicosia in early December, when he tore a hamstring after scoring Chelsea's first goal. He then damaged his left knee in training with Ghana at the Africa Cup of Nations, an injury that initially was expected to keep him out for six weeks.That absence has been extended by complications – the player underwent extensive rehabilitation alongside Ashley Cole in the south of France last month – which saw the joint swell up after exercise. Chelsea have missed his dynamism and had hoped he would be fit to return against Liverpool on 2 May. His progress is being monitored on a daily basis.Ancelotti could do without having to play with an unbalanced midfield when he was already confronting the reality that he must reshape his defence for the potentially awkward visit of Stoke.

Ashley Cole may make his first appearance since fracturing an ankle at Everton in February but John Terry is suspended following his dismissal at Spurs. With Ricardo Carvalho sidelined for a further fortnight at least – the Portuguese started running only last week, as he recovers from an ankle injury – Ancelotti is considering playing Branislav Ivanovic, recently recovered from his own knee problems, as a central defender, alongside Alex. That would mean retaining Paulo Ferreira, embarrassed by Gareth Bale and withdrawn at half-time against Spurs, at right-back.  There remain doubts, too, over Didier Drogba's fitness though the club and player have opted for the moment against his undergoing keyhole surgery on his troublesome groin. Drogba has been suffering from a hernia problem over recent weeks and alarmed the coaching staff by pulling up as he prepared to kick off the second half on Saturday, seconds after Ancelotti had made his third substitution.
Drogba was assessed on the sidelines before the game restarted and ended up completing the match, though he could yet be rested on Sunday in favour of Nicolas Anelka, with the potentially critical trip to Liverpool the following weekend in mind. "It'll be his decision," said Ancelotti when asked about possible surgery for Drogba prior to the World Cup finals. "He doesn't have a big problem. It's more about controlling the situation but he'll take a decision at the end of the season whether to have the surgery or not. But it's by no means sure that he'll have an operation."
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 21, 2010, 03:44:48 PM
Essien will now not play until the World Cup :'(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 21, 2010, 09:17:36 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 21, 2010, 03:44:48 PM
Essien will now not play until the World Cup :'(

Big, big loss, as has been Ashley Cole over the last few weeks and Bosingwa over most of the season as well. Saying that Zhirkov, Ferreria and Ivanovic (Possible Chelsea POTY) have done fairly well the last few weeks.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on April 21, 2010, 09:19:09 PM
Norf - If youse make a balls of this league you are locking this bloody thread.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 21, 2010, 09:24:29 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 21, 2010, 09:19:09 PM
Norf - If youse make a balls of this league you are locking this bloody thread.

I am locking the f**king house and throwing away the key. It'll be good bye from me, and goodbye from Martin Quinn.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 23, 2010, 01:28:07 PM
The problem for Frank Lampard is that it has not been an exceptional season.

Not by his high standards. Mind you, Lampard has scored a career-best
23 goals this season and managed just a mere 14 assists.

In his previous four seasons he reached the 20 goal mark so we take it
for granted and don't regard this campaign as anything out of the
ordinary.

Maybe that's why he has not been nominated for the PFA Player of the
Year award. The shortlist is Carlos Tevez (22 goals, 7 assists),
Didier Drogba (25 goals, 8 assists), Wayne Rooney (26 goals, 4
assists), Cesc Fabregas (15 goals, 13 assists).

Rooney, 24, and Fabregas, 22, have had such good seasons that they
have doubled up and been nominated along with James Milner (5 goals,
12 assists) and Joe Hart (10 clean sheets in 33 games) for the Young
Player gong, too.

Notice anything about those numbers. Lampard has better stats than
Tevez and Fabregas, has more assists than Drogba and Rooney put
together and the Chelsea and Manchester United strikers have only just
managed to score more goals.

Mind you, Drogba and Rooney are both strikers. Lampard plays in
midfield. To score as many goals as he has in Chelsea's push for the
Premier League title is remarkable.

His assist rate is sensational, too. He's always running, always
looking for the killer pass and is brilliant for Chelsea.

On Saturday at Tottenham, it was a bad result, bad defeat and a bad
performance. Despite leading the way, Chelsea have been inconsistent.

Not Lampard. Last season, there was a month when - under the hapless
Luiz Felipe Scolari - Lampard almost single handedly kept Chelsea
going. He was unbelievable. And yet still no nomination last season.

But his goal at White Hart Lane in the dying minutes to give Chelsea -
outplayed throughout - a glimmer of a chance of nicking a point was
just typical of Lampard.

It was a gruelling game and yet Lampard has the fitness to run into
the box to get onto the end of a cross and, somehow, he stretches out
a leg and pokes home. That took great stamina and energy.

Not just energy, either. But an amazing never-say-die spirit and
Lampard has that in abundance.

Lampard is the player who, when he joined Chelsea in 2001, we all
baulked at the £11m fee  paid to West Ham.

And yet throughout his Stamford Bridge career he has shown an appetite
and determination which has made him world class.

Every year Lampard delivers for Chelsea. And that's his big problem:
we've become used to it. We take it for granted.

I am probably going to vote for Wayne Rooney as my Football Writers'
Footballer of the Year. He's been exceptional. Cesc Fabregas, because
of the influence one individual has had on a team, is also in my mind.
But not even to nominate Lampard for the players' award is outrageous.

It's time Lampard's ability was appreciated. Chelsea and England will
miss him when he's gone. And yet despite all the doubters, because he
defies logic and age season after season, don't bet on that happening
anytime soon.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: nrico2006 on April 23, 2010, 01:39:47 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 23, 2010, 01:28:07 PM
The problem for Frank Lampard is that it has not been an exceptional season.

Not by his high standards. Mind you, Lampard has scored a career-best
23 goals this season and managed just a mere 14 assists.

In his previous four seasons he reached the 20 goal mark so we take it
for granted and don't regard this campaign as anything out of the
ordinary.

Maybe that's why he has not been nominated for the PFA Player of the
Year award. The shortlist is Carlos Tevez (22 goals, 7 assists),
Didier Drogba (25 goals, 8 assists), Wayne Rooney (26 goals, 4
assists), Cesc Fabregas (15 goals, 13 assists).

Rooney, 24, and Fabregas, 22, have had such good seasons that they
have doubled up and been nominated along with James Milner (5 goals,
12 assists) and Joe Hart (10 clean sheets in 33 games) for the Young
Player gong, too.

Notice anything about those numbers. Lampard has better stats than
Tevez and Fabregas, has more assists than Drogba and Rooney put
together and the Chelsea and Manchester United strikers have only just
managed to score more goals.

Mind you, Drogba and Rooney are both strikers. Lampard plays in
midfield. To score as many goals as he has in Chelsea's push for the
Premier League title is remarkable.

His assist rate is sensational, too. He's always running, always
looking for the killer pass and is brilliant for Chelsea.

On Saturday at Tottenham, it was a bad result, bad defeat and a bad
performance. Despite leading the way, Chelsea have been inconsistent.

Not Lampard. Last season, there was a month when - under the hapless
Luiz Felipe Scolari - Lampard almost single handedly kept Chelsea
going. He was unbelievable. And yet still no nomination last season.

But his goal at White Hart Lane in the dying minutes to give Chelsea -
outplayed throughout - a glimmer of a chance of nicking a point was
just typical of Lampard.

It was a gruelling game and yet Lampard has the fitness to run into
the box to get onto the end of a cross and, somehow, he stretches out
a leg and pokes home. That took great stamina and energy.

Not just energy, either. But an amazing never-say-die spirit and
Lampard has that in abundance.

Lampard is the player who, when he joined Chelsea in 2001, we all
baulked at the £11m fee  paid to West Ham.

And yet throughout his Stamford Bridge career he has shown an appetite
and determination which has made him world class.

Every year Lampard delivers for Chelsea. And that's his big problem:
we've become used to it. We take it for granted.

I am probably going to vote for Wayne Rooney as my Football Writers'
Footballer of the Year. He's been exceptional. Cesc Fabregas, because
of the influence one individual has had on a team, is also in my mind.
But not even to nominate Lampard for the players' award is outrageous.

It's time Lampard's ability was appreciated. Chelsea and England will
miss him when he's gone. And yet despite all the doubters, because he
defies logic and age season after season, don't bet on that happening
anytime soon.


Agree about Lampard, should have really been in the running for this award most years out of the past 6 or 7.  Unbelievable goals record and especially for this season considering he started slowly enough and seemed out of sorts at his new role under Ancelotti.  Why did he ever get rid of the Jnr though?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 25, 2010, 07:37:50 PM
Nice move on goal difference today...worth 1/2 a point??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Shrewdness on April 25, 2010, 07:48:10 PM
It's worth a full point if it comes down to goal difference!!. Excellent response from Chelsea today showing no signs of any pressure, but in all honesty, did anyone really think that Chelsea wouldn't win that game today ::).......and that they won't also beat Wigan on the final day, and United beat Stoke.

As i said over on the United thread, it's almost certainly going to be decided next Sunday, bar sensational results on the final day.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 25, 2010, 07:54:37 PM
Quote from: Shrewdness on April 25, 2010, 07:48:10 PM
It's worth a full point if it comes down to goal difference!!. Excellent response from Chelsea today showing no signs of any pressure, but in all honesty, did anyone really think that Chelsea wouldn't win that game today ::).......and that they won't also beat Wigan on the final day, and United beat Stoke.

As i said over on the United thread, it's almost certainly going to be decided next Sunday, bar sensational results on the final day.

Still doesn't make up for Antrim getting a stuffing last night :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on April 25, 2010, 08:03:30 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 25, 2010, 07:54:37 PM
Quote from: Shrewdness on April 25, 2010, 07:48:10 PM
It's worth a full point if it comes down to goal difference!!. Excellent response from Chelsea today showing no signs of any pressure, but in all honesty, did anyone really think that Chelsea wouldn't win that game today ::).......and that they won't also beat Wigan on the final day, and United beat Stoke.

As i said over on the United thread, it's almost certainly going to be decided next Sunday, bar sensational results on the final day.

Still doesn't make up for Antrim getting a stuffing last night :-\

Cheer up mate you could be a Roscommon man instead  :(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 25, 2010, 08:34:39 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 25, 2010, 08:03:30 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 25, 2010, 07:54:37 PM
Quote from: Shrewdness on April 25, 2010, 07:48:10 PM
It's worth a full point if it comes down to goal difference!!. Excellent response from Chelsea today showing no signs of any pressure, but in all honesty, did anyone really think that Chelsea wouldn't win that game today ::).......and that they won't also beat Wigan on the final day, and United beat Stoke.

As i said over on the United thread, it's almost certainly going to be decided next Sunday, bar sensational results on the final day.

Still doesn't make up for Antrim getting a stuffing last night :-\

Cheer up mate you could be a Roscommon man instead  :(
ross4life, it's counties like Roscommon (I've got family there and always keep an eye on you) and Antrim that are the bedrock of the Association...keep the faith!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 29, 2010, 01:05:15 PM
So three weeks of 'finals' start tonight, as the young Blues head to Villa Park for the 1st leg of the Youth Cup Final. Lets hope mssrs MacEacheran, Clifford, Tore and Bruma can get the week up and going with a good result.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on April 29, 2010, 05:28:09 PM
It's a long time since Chelsea won a Youth Cup so will be a big deal if they win it?

What was the score in the 1st leg or is it a one off final?

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2010, 02:01:04 AM
Quote from: ross4life on April 29, 2010, 05:28:09 PM
It's a long time since Chelsea won a Youth Cup so will be a big deal if they win it?

What was the score in the 1st leg or is it a one off final?

I think the last time Chelsea won the YC was the early 60s, so to bridge a 50 year gap will of course be a massive boost for the youth academy and the masterplan.

It's also Chelsea's 2nd youth cup final in 3 years, and looking at that squad four of those players have played for the Chelsae first team this season, and Ancellotti has already said they will form part of next year's squad. So again the system is in the direction of goodness.

The result was 1-1 by the way. Second leg on Tuesday.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 02, 2010, 01:28:37 AM
So, if you believe the hype it all comes down to this, and in truth it almost certainly does.
There has been much commentary all week talking about Liverpool's aproach to tomorrow, and the posability of them rolling over. However I don't expect this to happen whatsoever.

History has shown that back in 1995 Liverpool ripped King Kenny's premiership title right from his grasp, only for Andy Cole and company to kick it back into his pocket again. If they are willing to do this one of their own, there is no reason why they'll not want to do it to Chelsea.

The ability to do it is another question.

If Chelsea start and play with the tempo that they did last week, and on several occasions this season, they'll probably win. Only once this season have Chelsea had no game midweek and dropped points (A Joe Hart inspired Birmingham), and this could be a factor again.

At times Chelsea have produced puzzling displays (Villa A, Wigan A, Spurs A) etc where they looked really ordinary. However in all these games I believe they played the Wednesday pre which adds credance to the 'old legs' argument. This to a degree is true but I think the engine room (Deco, Ballack and to a lesser degree Lampard) needs an overhaul more than anything.

The specific threat, despite his iffy form, tomorrow is Gerard. In previous encounters Mikel and especially Essien have blunted Gerard's threat. However both of these players will miss tomorrow which leaves the question who takes Gerard now. Ballack has not got the legs, Belletti is a bit rash and leggy too. That would be my primary concern.

However the alternate is to play a positive game and not worry about Gerard, which will see Malouda take a central role again I'd imagine. JT will probably come back into the defence with Ivanovic probably taking the right back slot.

So far this season Chelsea have;
* Played the 'big four' six times and won all six.
* Scored 93 goals, and are in with a chance of breaking United's 97 goal record.
* Scored 7 goals on three occasions against decent oppostion, two of which are reknowned for the miserly defence.

All this with a manager in his first season in English football.

I am sure the Mancs will argue, and they are entitled to do so, but no matter what happens between now and Sunday week, I believe Chelsea have been the best team in the league this season. Only a bit of silverware required now to mark it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: thebigfella on May 02, 2010, 12:06:09 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 02, 2010, 01:28:37 AM
So, if you believe the hype it all comes down to this, and in truth it almost certainly does.
There has been much commentary all week talking about Liverpool's aproach to tomorrow, and the posability of them rolling over. However I don't expect this to happen whatsoever.

History has shown that back in 1995 Liverpool ripped King Kenny's premiership title right from his grasp, only for Andy Cole and company to kick it back into his pocket again. If they are willing to do this one of their own, there is no reason why they'll not want to do it to Chelsea.

The ability to do it is another question.

If Chelsea start and play with the tempo that they did last week, and on several occasions this season, they'll probably win. Only once this season have Chelsea had no game midweek and dropped points (A Joe Hart inspired Birmingham), and this could be a factor again.

At times Chelsea have produced puzzling displays (Villa A, Wigan A, Spurs A) etc where they looked really ordinary. However in all these games I believe they played the Wednesday pre which adds credance to the 'old legs' argument. This to a degree is true but I think the engine room (Deco, Ballack and to a lesser degree Lampard) needs an overhaul more than anything.

The specific threat, despite his iffy form, tomorrow is Gerard. In previous encounters Mikel and especially Essien have blunted Gerard's threat. However both of these players will miss tomorrow which leaves the question who takes Gerard now. Ballack has not got the legs, Belletti is a bit rash and leggy too. That would be my primary concern.

However the alternate is to play a positive game and not worry about Gerard, which will see Malouda take a central role again I'd imagine. JT will probably come back into the defence with Ivanovic probably taking the right back slot.

So far this season Chelsea have;
* Played the 'big four' six times and won all six.
* Scored 93 goals, and are in with a chance of breaking United's 97 goal record.
* Scored 7 goals on three occasions against decent oppostion, two of which are reknowned for the miserly defence.

All this with a manager in his first season in English football.

I am sure the Mancs will argue, and they are entitled to do so, but no matter what happens between now and Sunday week, I believe Chelsea have been the best team in the league this season. Only a bit of silverware required now to mark it.

The best team will be who ever finishes top after 38 games whether it be Chelsea or Utd. That's how a league works, deal with it rather than posting shite about Chelsea deserving it for various reasons.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on May 02, 2010, 12:09:47 PM
Bigfella - Prepare yourself for the shite Ross4life bombards everyone with if Chelsea do win the league, dodgy refs, offside goals, ball wasn't inflated enough. You will need to employ a couple of analysts to wade through it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 02, 2010, 12:11:27 PM
A hammering of Liverpool is what every right thinking person wants to see. Having said that there is no point doing the business today if they don't win the last match as I can't imagine Steve Bruce motivating his team to beat United.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on May 02, 2010, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 02, 2010, 12:09:47 PM
Bigfella - Prepare yourself for the shite Ross4life bombards everyone with if Chelsea do win the league, dodgy refs, offside goals, ball wasn't inflated enough. You will need to employ a couple of analysts to wade through it.

Bellfella is 100% correct! maybe because it's so long since your lot (20 years & counting) you can't remember what it's like

United have long knocked Liverpool off their perch as top dogs in England & now Spurs,City are taking pools place as one of the so called BIG four teams! now that is the real shite you will have to deal with & analysts that if you will 

P.S Tony the same Bruce team that were 30 seconds away from beating united in Old Trafford
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on May 02, 2010, 03:32:27 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 19, 2010, 12:11:00 AM
i Can't help feeling Chelsea let there foot off the pedal believing the media hype "league is won" Liverpool game will show a true reflection of where this team are


Would just like to point out who was right again  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: clarshack on May 02, 2010, 04:13:13 PM
who did sky give motm to?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 02, 2010, 04:16:35 PM
Stevie G
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on May 02, 2010, 06:31:20 PM
I'm not sure what Norf & the other Chelsea boys think but if ye had the option of hand picked two teams to play in the Fa cup final & last league game it doesn't get better than Wigan & Portsmouth

Great position to be in for the Double IMO
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Shrewdness on May 02, 2010, 07:02:08 PM
More than likely, Chelsea will be the new champions this time next week. As a United fan, i have to say fair play to them. They have suffered with injuries this season to key players as much as any other team. They had to cope without some of their African players whilst the African Nations Cup was on in January, and had to deal with the very unsettling effects of the John Terry Scandal.

Add to this the fact that their manager was totally new to english football, and have won it with practically the same squad that could only finish 3'rd last season.

It pains me to say it, but barring an upset of biblical proportions next Sunday, Chelsea will be worthy champions.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 02, 2010, 09:10:51 PM
Ah feck it, the league is over. Wigan are worse than Liverpool for God's sake. Enjoy the summer, cos ye will be up there to be shot at again.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 02, 2010, 09:54:16 PM
Quote from: Shrewdness on May 02, 2010, 07:02:08 PM
More than likely, Chelsea will be the new champions this time next week. As a United fan, i have to say fair play to them. They have suffered with injuries this season to key players as much as any other team. They had to cope without some of their African players whilst the African Nations Cup was on in January, and had to deal with the very unsettling effects of the John Terry Scandal.

Add to this the fact that their manager was totally new to english football, and have won it with practically the same squad that could only finish 3'rd last season.

It pains me to say it, but barring an upset of biblical proportions next Sunday, Chelsea will be worthy champions.

Fair play Shrewness but you'll never last on here with an attitude like that!

People were telling me all week how bad Liverpool were, but not taking a cheap shot here, they were even worse than I hoped. Chelsea were very nervy early on but settled into the game. In truth some of the chances created should've made today more comfortable.

So it's down to the last day of the season as it was 3 years ago. Already I am having nightmares of an inspired Chris Kirkland, and Titus Bramble becoming the new Franco Baresi.

To put the cherry on top today, Twente lifted the Dutch title with the winning goal scored by Chelsea loan star Miroslav Stoch.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on May 02, 2010, 10:06:22 PM
Titus Bramble your having a laugh Norf  :D 1/10 chelsea are with Paddy power now for the title
& don't forget United & chelsea are both playing teams that have nothing to play for!

Chelsea should have no problem beating Uniteds "most goals scored in a season" 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 02, 2010, 10:30:46 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 02, 2010, 10:06:22 PM
Titus Bramble your having a laugh Norf  :D 1/10 chelsea are with Paddy power now for the title
& don't forget United & chelsea are both playing teams that have nothing to play for!

Chelsea should have no problem beating Uniteds "most goals scored in a season"

IIRC Titus was man of the match earlier in the season as Wigan destroyed Cheslea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on May 02, 2010, 10:50:56 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 02, 2010, 10:30:46 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 02, 2010, 10:06:22 PM
Titus Bramble your having a laugh Norf  :D 1/10 chelsea are with Paddy power now for the title
& don't forget United & chelsea are both playing teams that have nothing to play for!

Chelsea should have no problem beating Uniteds "most goals scored in a season"

IIRC Titus was man of the match earlier in the season as Wigan destroyed Cheslea.

Hardly Destroyed didn't Chelsea get a man sent off? Wigan did beat Arsenal & pool at home

seen them first hand when they had something to play for, beaten 5-0 that day could have been 9 like Spurs scored v them! i think only Burnley have let in more goals on their travels?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on May 02, 2010, 10:55:51 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 02, 2010, 10:06:22 PM

Chelsea should have no problem beating Uniteds "most goals scored in a season"

Eh? Villa scored 128 one season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on May 02, 2010, 10:57:52 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 02, 2010, 10:55:51 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 02, 2010, 10:06:22 PM

Chelsea should have no problem beating Uniteds "most goals scored in a season"

Eh? Villa scored 128 one season.

Must be a Premiership record so? to be honest i didn't even know united had the Record till Norf spoke of it?

P.S back then would be 42 or more games????
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 02, 2010, 11:01:06 PM
sure there was no soccer in England before 1992
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on May 02, 2010, 11:02:10 PM
Yeah, 42 games. Arsenal won the league in 1931 scoring 127 goals. Villa finished second scoring 128.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on May 02, 2010, 11:15:08 PM
1893, Sunderland scored 100 goals having played just a 30-game title winning season. Bate that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on May 02, 2010, 11:17:13 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 02, 2010, 11:01:06 PM
sure there was no soccer in England before 1992

Soccer in England? make sure when your walking around cockney London or Mosside in Manchester to ask the nice tattooed skinhead chap for where is the Soccer?

I'm sure he'll send you right back to 1992  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on May 02, 2010, 11:19:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 02, 2010, 11:15:08 PM
1893, Sunderland scored 100 goals having played just a 30-game title winning season. Bate that.

I remember my Grandad talking about that Team! i think he said they were called the Bank of England team a title Chelsea or Man city could get today
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Minder on May 02, 2010, 11:26:19 PM
As opposed to the frugal near £100m it cost to assemble the current Utd team..........
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 02, 2010, 11:28:06 PM
Why do you think it's a lie, do you not believe Ross4life is over 70 years of age or that his Roscommon grand-father use to check the English 1st division results as soon as he had his sheep sheared?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ONeill on May 02, 2010, 11:46:33 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 02, 2010, 11:19:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 02, 2010, 11:15:08 PM
1893, Sunderland scored 100 goals having played just a 30-game title winning season. Bate that.

I remember my Grandad talking about that Team! i think he said they were called the Bank of England team a title Chelsea or Man city could get today

Arsenal were known as the 'Bank of England' team.

You're lying.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on May 03, 2010, 12:25:54 AM
are you sure O' Neill? maybe Sunderland were called something else then?

no lie guys just must have mixed up the old memory  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on May 03, 2010, 12:32:41 AM
Google is your friend guys!! took me about 2 seconds to find it "As well as the "Team of All Talents" at the turn of the 20th century, Sunderland were known as the "Bank of England club" during the 1950s"

So kinda half right  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on May 03, 2010, 12:56:06 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 03, 2010, 12:40:45 AM
1950s...................................1893.

You forgot to tell us that your 'Grandad' is Marty McFly.

Year way out yes but bank of England team Sunderland Correct! should have known it was the 50s as my grandad was a huge wolves fan's (big in the 50s)

Marty McFly........i've gambled in Biff Tannens casino if that counts?

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: ross4life on May 04, 2010, 08:51:46 PM
Latest odds.. Chelsea 1/8 Draw 15/2 Wigan 18/1

Chelsea 7-0 win is priced at 55/1 for those that think they can repeat the Stoke game
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Cup Winners 2009
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 04, 2010, 09:46:30 PM
An absoloutely superb Chelsea team lift the FA Youth Cup.

2-1 on the night.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 05, 2010, 05:57:23 PM
Last night's Chelsea 'youf' performance was scintilating. They absoloutely dominated Villa from start to end, and only the lack of a natural scorer for the Blues kept the game on an edge.

Josh MacHecheran (Spelling is prob ropey) was on a different planet from anything else on view, and spent the night gliding past opponents like he was out for a stroll. Him and Jeffery Brauma must have a great chance of a big career. In fact Brauma will be part of the Chelsea first team for 2010-11.

Chelsea's late, late winning goalscorer (20 yard rocket) and captain was Dublin lad Conor Clifford.

The future's bright...

(http://www.chelseafc.com/javaImages/f5/fb/0,,10268~8780789,00.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: ross4life on May 05, 2010, 06:37:40 PM
Well Roman may save some money with the youth coming through?

Liverpool won back to back Youth cups not so long ago what happened to that talent coming through?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 05, 2010, 06:43:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 05, 2010, 06:37:40 PM
Well Roman may save some money with the youth coming through?

Liverpool won back to back Youth cups not so long ago what happened to that talent coming through?

That's part of the master plan to produce at least one youth player per year. Next year (And this) Chelsea will have Brauma, Borini, Matic, Kakuta, Stoch and Van Aarnholt in the first team squad. I'd say Brauma and Kakuta have a chance, as to a lesser degree do Stoch and Van Aarnholt. Don't fancy Borini and Matic's chances.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 05, 2010, 06:44:26 PM
Last night's winner.... for those who care.

http://www.chelseavideos.co.uk/Clifford%20v%20Villa%20FAYC%2010.avi (http://www.chelseavideos.co.uk/Clifford%20v%20Villa%20FAYC%2010.avi)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: ross4life on May 05, 2010, 06:56:23 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 05, 2010, 06:43:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 05, 2010, 06:37:40 PM
Well Roman may save some money with the youth coming through?

Liverpool won back to back Youth cups not so long ago what happened to that talent coming through?

That's part of the master plan to produce at least one youth player per year. Next year (And this) Chelsea will have Brauma, Borini, Matic, Kakuta, Stoch and Van Aarnholt in the first team squad. I'd say Brauma and Kakuta have a chance, as to a lesser degree do Stoch and Van Aarnholt. Don't fancy Borini and Matic's chances.

Lol Master plan  :D i think Chelsea are more likely to sell these talents on... but then again a lot of the Key Chelsea players are not getting any younger

how many of the current squad has come from the Chelsea youth team & would be classed a establish players ? John Terry &...

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 05, 2010, 07:00:15 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 05, 2010, 06:56:23 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 05, 2010, 06:43:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 05, 2010, 06:37:40 PM
Well Roman may save some money with the youth coming through?

Liverpool won back to back Youth cups not so long ago what happened to that talent coming through?

That's part of the master plan to produce at least one youth player per year. Next year (And this) Chelsea will have Brauma, Borini, Matic, Kakuta, Stoch and Van Aarnholt in the first team squad. I'd say Brauma and Kakuta have a chance, as to a lesser degree do Stoch and Van Aarnholt. Don't fancy Borini and Matic's chances.

Lol Master plan  :D i think Chelsea are more likely to sell these talents on... but then again a lot of the Key Chelsea players are not getting any younger

how many of the current squad has come from the Chelsea youth team & would be classed a establish players ? John Terry &...

Don't you worry about it Rossy....  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: ross4life on May 05, 2010, 07:23:28 PM
so just John terry then  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 05, 2010, 07:30:02 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 05, 2010, 07:23:28 PM
so just John terry then  ;)

Of course it's just John Terry! I thought an anorak like you would've known that.

Hence the master plan!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: ross4life on May 05, 2010, 07:53:48 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 05, 2010, 07:30:02 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 05, 2010, 07:23:28 PM
so just John terry then  ;)

Of course it's just John Terry! I thought an anorak like you would've known that.

Hence the master plan!!


so whats the plan with Drogba 32, Lampard 32 in June, Carvalho 32 in May, Anelka 31, & Ballack 34 in September all these are first teamers in the Chelsea line up unlike Scholes, Giggs & neville at united

how long will these players go on for & who will they replace them with?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 05, 2010, 11:36:27 PM
Replace them? Sure according to you these boys have just won the English league. Why replace them?

For the record, Carvalho is being slowly replaced by Ivanovic, and Alex. Ballack only played so many games this season because of injury to Essien.

Drogba is arguably the league's best striker, Anleka has been superb in the role he has this year and Lampard has been shite again, so hopefully we get rid of him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: ross4life on May 06, 2010, 12:07:40 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 05, 2010, 11:36:27 PM
Replace them? Sure according to you these boys have just won the English league. Why replace them?

For the record, Carvalho is being slowly replaced by Ivanovic, and Alex. Ballack only played so many games this season because of injury to Essien.

Drogba is arguably the league's best striker, Anleka has been superb in the role he has this year and Lampard has been shite again, so hopefully we get rid of him.

Not such a honest answer Norf (was expecting better) I'm talking about the years ahead lampard 20 goals a season will be a huge void to fill, what role is that Anelka is playing? deep role where he doesn't score many goals like a certain united striker?

Ivanovic, and Alex good defenders but not in Carvalho class!

All these players i mentioned are important players to Chelsea Success will be interesting who they do (when the time comes) replace them with?

P.S according to the bookies also ;) why are you expecting a Devon Loch??

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01381/devon_loch_1381439c.jpg)

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2010, 07:57:37 AM
If you want a honest answer, I'll give you one.

I find 90% of you posts, clueless, rambling and immature. So much so, that I struggle to reply to them with an intelligent, structured, mature reply.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: ross4life on May 06, 2010, 03:06:52 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2010, 07:57:37 AM
If you want a honest answer, I'll give you one.

I find 90% of you posts, clueless, rambling and immature. So much so, that I struggle to reply to them with an intelligent, structured, mature reply.


typical answer from you straight out of the Archie Mitchell book!

What if things go wrong u'll go AWOL like him too  ::) & btw you struggle to reply when someone questions Chelsea's greatness


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2010, 01:01:04 AM
Quote from: ross4life on May 06, 2010, 03:06:52 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2010, 07:57:37 AM
If you want a honest answer, I'll give you one.

I find 90% of you posts, clueless, rambling and immature. So much so, that I struggle to reply to them with an intelligent, structured, mature reply.


typical answer from you straight out of the Archie Mitchell book!

What if things go wrong u'll go AWOL like him too  ::) & btw you struggle to reply when someone questions Chelsea's greatness

Show me where I have gone AWOl in the past?
Show me where I struggle to reply when someone maturely, and constructivelly questions Chelsea's greatness?
Great you acknowledge that greatness though. Fair play to you.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: ross4life on May 07, 2010, 02:59:52 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2010, 01:01:04 AM
Quote from: ross4life on May 06, 2010, 03:06:52 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2010, 07:57:37 AM
If you want a honest answer, I'll give you one.

I find 90% of you posts, clueless, rambling and immature. So much so, that I struggle to reply to them with an intelligent, structured, mature reply.


typical answer from you straight out of the Archie Mitchell book!

What if things go wrong u'll go AWOL like him too  ::) & btw you struggle to reply when someone questions Chelsea's greatness

Show me where I have gone AWOl in the past?
Show me where I struggle to reply when someone maturely, and constructivelly questions Chelsea's greatness?
Great you acknowledge that greatness though. Fair play to you.

Read & you will see what if?

How about this?

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 21, 2010, 09:24:29 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 21, 2010, 09:19:09 PM
Norf - If youse make a balls of this league you are locking this bloody thread.

I am locking the f**king house and throwing away the key. It'll be good bye from me, and goodbye from Martin Quinn.

I posted a honest question! your reply was nothing more than insults that i would have expected from another poster, so much for being mature!!

Clueless how when i speak from fact? rambling well i think you do as much before & after Chelsea games, immature would be more like the post you just gave

GAA is all about friendly banter something tells me your taking football/soccer too serious?




Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2010, 06:14:23 PM
Ross, I am completely lost and puzzled to see where you are now and where you are going with this to be honest.
To stop wasting my time and yours, we'd probably just stop this now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: The Worker on May 07, 2010, 06:15:17 PM
Peter Robinson is a blues man!

this could be a sign of things ahead!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: ExiledGael on May 07, 2010, 10:26:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 07, 2010, 02:59:52 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2010, 01:01:04 AM
Quote from: ross4life on May 06, 2010, 03:06:52 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2010, 07:57:37 AM
If you want a honest answer, I'll give you one.

I find 90% of you posts, clueless, rambling and immature. So much so, that I struggle to reply to them with an intelligent, structured, mature reply.


typical answer from you straight out of the Archie Mitchell book!

What if things go wrong u'll go AWOL like him too  ::) & btw you struggle to reply when someone questions Chelsea's greatness

Show me where I have gone AWOl in the past?
Show me where I struggle to reply when someone maturely, and constructivelly questions Chelsea's greatness?
Great you acknowledge that greatness though. Fair play to you.

Read & you will see what if?

How about this?

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 21, 2010, 09:24:29 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 21, 2010, 09:19:09 PM
Norf - If youse make a balls of this league you are locking this bloody thread.

I am locking the f**king house and throwing away the key. It'll be good bye from me, and goodbye from Martin Quinn.

I posted a honest question! your reply was nothing more than insults that i would have expected from another poster, so much for being mature!!

Clueless how when i speak from fact? rambling well i think you do as much before & after Chelsea games, immature would be more like the post you just gave

GAA is all about friendly banter something tells me your taking football/soccer too serious?

Ross that's the worst example of insults and immaturity I've ever seen.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2010, 10:40:32 PM
Good to see Carlo start the weekend on a positive note on Friday by naming an unchanged 11 for tomorrow. That mentality is crucial.

Hopefully an early goal to settle the jitters, because if it's still 0-0 going into the second half, Norf Tyrone will be a wreck.

Time to put it to bed Chelsea...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: ONeill on May 08, 2010, 11:25:16 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2010, 10:40:32 PM
Good to see Carlo start the weekend on a positive note on Friday by naming an unchanged 11 for tomorrow. That mentality is crucial.

Hopefully an early goal to settle the jitters, because if it's still 0-0 going into the second half, Norf Tyrone will be a wreck.

Time to put it to bed Chelsea...

Is it true that none of the starting players were bought by Ancelotit?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: Minder on May 08, 2010, 11:29:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 08, 2010, 11:25:16 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2010, 10:40:32 PM
Good to see Carlo start the weekend on a positive note on Friday by naming an unchanged 11 for tomorrow. That mentality is crucial.

Hopefully an early goal to settle the jitters, because if it's still 0-0 going into the second half, Norf Tyrone will be a wreck.

Time to put it to bed Chelsea...

Is it true that none of the starting players were bought by Ancelotit?

Are they not all bought by Abramovich?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: ross4life on May 08, 2010, 11:45:28 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 08, 2010, 11:29:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 08, 2010, 11:25:16 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2010, 10:40:32 PM
Good to see Carlo start the weekend on a positive note on Friday by naming an unchanged 11 for tomorrow. That mentality is crucial.

Hopefully an early goal to settle the jitters, because if it's still 0-0 going into the second half, Norf Tyrone will be a wreck.

Time to put it to bed Chelsea...

Is it true that none of the starting players were bought by Ancelotit?

Are they not all bought by Abramovich?

Try John Terry & Lampard
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: Minder on May 08, 2010, 11:58:00 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 08, 2010, 11:45:28 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 08, 2010, 11:29:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 08, 2010, 11:25:16 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2010, 10:40:32 PM
Good to see Carlo start the weekend on a positive note on Friday by naming an unchanged 11 for tomorrow. That mentality is crucial.

Hopefully an early goal to settle the jitters, because if it's still 0-0 going into the second half, Norf Tyrone will be a wreck.

Time to put it to bed Chelsea...

Is it true that none of the starting players were bought by Ancelotit?

Are they not all bought by Abramovich?

Try John Terry & Lampard

Missed the point spectacularly.



Again
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: ross4life on May 09, 2010, 12:02:09 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 08, 2010, 11:58:00 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 08, 2010, 11:45:28 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 08, 2010, 11:29:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 08, 2010, 11:25:16 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2010, 10:40:32 PM
Good to see Carlo start the weekend on a positive note on Friday by naming an unchanged 11 for tomorrow. That mentality is crucial.

Hopefully an early goal to settle the jitters, because if it's still 0-0 going into the second half, Norf Tyrone will be a wreck.

Time to put it to bed Chelsea...

Is it true that none of the starting players were bought by Ancelotit?

Are they not all bought by Abramovich?

Try John Terry & Lampard

Missed the point spectacularly.



Again

You having a point to a post  :D your lack of knowledge about football/soccer makes me wonder why you bother to post at all?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2010, 10:09:57 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 08, 2010, 11:25:16 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2010, 10:40:32 PM
Good to see Carlo start the weekend on a positive note on Friday by naming an unchanged 11 for tomorrow. That mentality is crucial.

Hopefully an early goal to settle the jitters, because if it's still 0-0 going into the second half, Norf Tyrone will be a wreck.

Time to put it to bed Chelsea...

Is it true that none of the starting players were bought by Ancelotit?

Ish. Sturridge, Zhirkov, Matic and Turnball all came on board in or around the time that Ancellotti arrived. Technically the signed under his regime, but the work had been done on signing these players months before.
Arnessan would've green lighted Matic and Sturridge. I think Hiddink recommended Zhirkov. Not sure about Turnball.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: orangeman on May 09, 2010, 04:37:44 PM
Drogba is a big child - huffing that he didn't get taking the penalty so that he could be top scorer !!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: orangeman on May 09, 2010, 04:46:47 PM
1643: Didier Drogba is not looking like a man playing for a team in a fabulous position to win the league. The Ivorian still seems to be throwing a mini-tantrum because he was overlooked for penalty-taking duties for Chelsea's second goal. He's got 26 Premier League goals, same as Wayne Rooney in the battle for the Golden Boot.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: orangeman on May 09, 2010, 05:41:27 PM
8-0 class outfit Chelsea.


Well done and many congratulations.


Double coming up.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: new devil on May 09, 2010, 05:55:47 PM
Congrats Chelsea.....take a good look at it  ;)
Title: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: Minder on May 09, 2010, 06:08:42 PM
What a team, over 100 league goals. Beat their two nearest competitors home and away. Didier Drogba top goalscorer in the Premier League. Monumental effort when you consider the injuries they have had to contend with this season.

Bravo !
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: orangeman on May 09, 2010, 06:11:39 PM
Agreed.


But same could be said for United's injury list and their ability to force the title race down to the very last day of the season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: ross4life on May 09, 2010, 06:14:21 PM
Liverpool did it in 1923, Arsenal did it in 1935, Man United did it in 1956 & now......in 2010 Chelsea have won 4 league titles

i would say congrats to Chelsea on winning the league but i don't like repeating myself  ;)

Final word to...

Chelsea captain John Terry: "It's about Chelsea Football Club and our day today. It's been a hard three years, not winning the Premier League, but we've done it today and we deserved it. It's been inside of me for three years, seeing Man United lift it season after season and every single one of us has sat there and watched it. And now it's their turn to sit there and watch us today."
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 09, 2010, 06:17:28 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 09, 2010, 06:11:39 PM
Agreed.


But same could be said for United's injury list and their ability to force the title race down to the very last day of the season.

What's it got to do with United??

Congrats to Chelsea
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: new devil on May 09, 2010, 06:17:56 PM
Yea great team congrats to them

Also like to congratulate spurs on getting 4th place...man city-5th and Aston Villa-6th place....great clubs
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: Minder on May 09, 2010, 06:20:35 PM
Quote from: new devil on May 09, 2010, 06:17:56 PM
Yea great team congrats to them

Also like to congratulate spurs on getting 4th place...man city-5th and Aston Villa-6th place....great clubs

Nice gesture, fair play.
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: ross4life on May 09, 2010, 06:21:20 PM
Minder don't need another thread! all congrats can go in Chelsea thread,  Btw Ajax & Madrid have scored as much as Chelsea this season your lack of knowledge is shocking again

Not surprised you have nothing better to do  ::) how did your boys do today?
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 09, 2010, 06:24:11 PM
Have to say a big congrats to Chelsea.

Especially good to see Ancelotti win it - and Frank Lampard - he really is one of the best around
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 09, 2010, 06:25:32 PM
Best team in the EPL, deserved winners, congrats to NT and MQ.
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: ziggysego on May 09, 2010, 06:37:05 PM
Have Chelsea won the Premiership? Congratulations.
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 09, 2010, 06:38:07 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on May 09, 2010, 06:37:05 PM
Have Chelsea won the Premiership? Congratulations.

Premier League actually
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: ross4life on May 09, 2010, 06:38:27 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on May 09, 2010, 06:37:05 PM
Have Chelsea won the Premiership? Congratulations.

:D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: Denn Forever on May 09, 2010, 07:09:47 PM
No mistake allowed.  Well done Chelsea.
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 09, 2010, 09:02:09 PM
I'd like to add my hearty congratulations to Chelsea. It's refreshing to see a team win on pure ability without any recourse to ridiculous mind games by their manager or getting the odd leg up from the match officials. Far and away the best team won.
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 09, 2010, 09:05:05 PM
Congrats to Chelsea they are thoroughly deserving champions of England.

Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: Gold on May 09, 2010, 10:33:08 PM
Why the f**k are people congratulating them--do yous think the Chelsea players are reading this board?
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: new devil on May 09, 2010, 10:34:10 PM
Are they not??
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: ross4life on May 09, 2010, 10:40:46 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 09, 2010, 10:33:08 PM
Why the f**k are people congratulating them--do yous think the Chelsea players are reading this board?

:D  need to ask minder on that one, maybe he has a text line opened up to Chelsea F.C like he has a death line
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: new devil on May 09, 2010, 10:45:22 PM
death line  ???
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: ross4life on May 09, 2010, 10:58:06 PM
Quote from: new devil on May 09, 2010, 10:45:22 PM
death line  ???

Don't you know he get's the death texts so he can update the Death notice thread
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: new devil on May 09, 2010, 11:08:04 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 09, 2010, 10:58:06 PM
Quote from: new devil on May 09, 2010, 10:45:22 PM
death line  ???

Don't you know he get's the death texts so he can update the Death notice thread

Naw never really go on that thread
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: ONeill on May 09, 2010, 11:09:44 PM
Took a long time to warm to Lampard but the shenanigans of Drogba today concerning the first penalty highlighted the difference between the two men.

Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: EC Unique on May 09, 2010, 11:18:43 PM
Fair play Chelsea. Most points after 38 games can not be argued with.
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: ross4life on May 09, 2010, 11:20:31 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 09, 2010, 11:09:44 PM
Took a long time to warm to Lampard but the shenanigans of Drogba today concerning the first penalty highlighted the difference between the two men.

Agreed no BS with Lampard he's much like Scholes & Giggs at united & they deserve all the honours after what they have given to the game
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: magpie seanie on May 10, 2010, 12:03:45 AM
Congrats to Chelsea. They are worthy champions.

I'd say my ould mucker Norf Tyrone is enjoying himself tonight. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: cokers on May 10, 2010, 12:12:05 AM
Congrats indeed.

The future is blue.........................................SKY BLUE!!!!
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: ballinaman on May 10, 2010, 12:16:16 AM
Quote from: cokers on May 10, 2010, 12:12:05 AM
Congrats indeed.

The future is blue.........................................SKY BLUE!!!!
FACT! Coventry are on the up!
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: magpie seanie on May 10, 2010, 12:49:29 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 09, 2010, 09:02:09 PM
I'd like to add my hearty congratulations to Chelsea. It's refreshing to see a team win on pure ability without any recourse to ridiculous mind games by their manager or getting the odd leg up from the match officials. Far and away the best team won.

;D ;D ;D

Absolutely hilarious.
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: ross4life on May 10, 2010, 12:54:11 AM
Yup Tony is a great WUM

(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5250/disgrace.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 10, 2010, 08:15:47 AM
Cheers gents.

The old head is kinda tender this morning, but who cares.

Interesting to note that on the 'other' Chelsea thread Rossforlife cannot help but post a picture of 'that' Drogba goal (Thanks big lad I love seeing it), highlighting the hollowness of his congratulations on here.

Yesterday was nervey. Very nervey. Only when the 7th went in did I start to relax!

A final thought. Cantona, Fowler, Owen, Shearer, Van Nistelrooy, Henry. All great players, but the greatest scoring machine the Premier league has ever seen is now officially Chelsea FC. 103 goals is an unreal statistic.

If I recall correctly, that's the Blues with the best defensive record, best scoring record, and best points record in the PL's history.

And lastly. Well done Mr Ancellotti. I tip my head. A very simple, modest, low key approach that has yielded reward. Back in January I thought the f***er was mad not to buy to strengthen, but he was prooved spot on.

As my friend always says, "how sweet it is....".
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: nrico2006 on May 10, 2010, 09:14:37 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 09, 2010, 09:02:09 PM
I'd like to add my hearty congratulations to Chelsea. It's refreshing to see a team win on pure ability without any recourse to ridiculous mind games by their manager or getting the odd leg up from the match officials. Far and away the best team won.

Far and away?  1 point would suggest that they was very little between the teams.  All teams sufffer from injuries throughout the year, but from listening to Wenger yesterday you would swear Arsenal were the only team who had any.  United had to resort to playing midfielders in defence this season their injury list was so severe.  The league can't be won every year, but proud of the United team challenging on all fronts this year, especially given the predictions of how they would fare that were floating about at the start of the season in light of Tevez and Ronaldo leaving.

Congratulations to Chelsea though, I am still frustrated at the fortune they received in the 2 league games against United, but at the end of the day they deserve what they have got. 

I find it funny that the only satisfaction Liverpool fans can get is through celebrating United finishing second.  It exemplifies the differences between United and Liverpool when this time last year Liverpool were doing cartwheels at finishing 2nd, whereas for United 2nd is seen as failure.  Again this year, Liverpool were aiming for 4th - what ambition the club seem to have.  But what else would you expect from a club starved of success, with their last league title won in a previous century.  Maybe your kids will be able to learn about it when studying 20th century History at school.
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: BennyHarp on May 10, 2010, 09:20:20 AM
It may be just me - but i find Chelsea the most hateful bunch of hoors ever to be assembled together on the same football pitch, the sight of Ashley Cole, John Terry and Didier Drogba celebrating will always make me feel a little bit sick! (Dont mind Lampard though)
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: norabeag on May 10, 2010, 09:27:31 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 10, 2010, 09:20:20 AM
It may be just me - but i find Chelsea the most hateful bunch of hoors ever to be assembled together on the same football pitch, the sight of Ashley Cole, John Terry and Didier Drogba celebrating will always make me feel a little bit sick! (Dont mind Lampard though)
Also cant understand the adulation on a GAA diiscussion board for a soccer club whose supporters are reknowned for theirCombat 18 and NF links.
Thanks be to God its all over now and we can concentrate on more impressing matters  starting with the match in Celtic Park ( Derry)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 10, 2010, 09:35:39 AM
Congrats Norf, and the other Chelsea fans on here. Well deserved over the course of the season and a pretty emphatic, champions like, exclamation point on it yesterday.

Drogba is some muppet, but a great striker.

Well done again.
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 10, 2010, 09:46:50 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 10, 2010, 09:20:20 AM
It may be just me - but i find Chelsea the most hateful bunch of hoors ever to be assembled together on the same football pitch, the sight of Ashley Cole, John Terry and Didier Drogba celebrating will always make me feel a little bit sick! (Dont mind Lampard though)

All of them combinded aren't  half as hateful as Gary Neville
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on May 10, 2010, 09:47:27 AM
Good article over the weekend about Conor Clifford.

Oh and well done to Chelsea; worthy champions.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 10, 2010, 09:53:36 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on May 10, 2010, 09:47:27 AM
Good article over the weekend about Conor Clifford.

Oh and well done to Chelsea; worthy champions.

BB- What paper had the Clifford article?
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: Doogie Browser on May 10, 2010, 09:57:43 AM
United dropped 5 points against Villa this season so I am claiming a part in Chelsea's success  :P
Met Norf Tyrone yesterday and he was very happy but not so happy as to buy Doogie a pint the miserable sod  >:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on May 10, 2010, 10:01:57 AM
It was either the Irish Times on Saturday or the Sunday Times yesterday - in my addled state I didn't look to see what I was reading.
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: thebigfella on May 10, 2010, 10:09:07 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on May 10, 2010, 09:46:50 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 10, 2010, 09:20:20 AM
It may be just me - but i find Chelsea the most hateful bunch of hoors ever to be assembled together on the same football pitch, the sight of Ashley Cole, John Terry and Didier Drogba celebrating will always make me feel a little bit sick! (Dont mind Lampard though)

All of them combinded aren't  half as hateful as Gary Neville

Or Rafa
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 10, 2010, 10:41:19 AM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 10, 2010, 09:57:43 AM
United dropped 5 points against Villa this season so I am claiming a part in Chelsea's success  :P
Met Norf Tyrone yesterday and he was very happy but not so happy as to buy Doogie a pint the miserable sod  >:(

Hey sur. I asked where you staying out, and you said you were going home. I was not going to force you to stay out past your bedtime when you had work in the morning.
Hey did you hear about the youth cup?
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: Doogie Browser on May 10, 2010, 10:48:07 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 10, 2010, 10:41:19 AM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 10, 2010, 09:57:43 AM
United dropped 5 points against Villa this season so I am claiming a part in Chelsea's success  :P
Met Norf Tyrone yesterday and he was very happy but not so happy as to buy Doogie a pint the miserable sod  >:(

Hey sur. I asked where you staying out, and you said you were going home. I was not going to force you to stay out past your bedtime when you had work in the morning.
Hey did you hear about the youth cup?
Like a broken frickin record!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on May 10, 2010, 03:55:01 PM
I heard Conor Clifford on Newstalk on Friday and he sounds like a really level headed young fella. Good luck to him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 10, 2010, 04:10:58 PM
Well done to Chelsea. Definitely the best team in the league so worthy winners. Did some amount of scoring in the last few games to get over the line.

Now any chance of a loan of a few quid? ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- FA Youth Cup Winners 2010
Post by: ross4life on May 10, 2010, 06:05:05 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 10, 2010, 08:15:47 AM
Cheers gents.

The old head is kinda tender this morning, but who cares.

Interesting to note that on the 'other' Chelsea thread Rossforlife cannot help but post a picture of 'that' Drogba goal (Thanks big lad I love seeing it), highlighting the hollowness of his congratulations on here.

Yesterday was nervey. Very nervey. Only when the 7th went in did I start to relax!

A final thought. Cantona, Fowler, Owen, Shearer, Van Nistelrooy, Henry. All great players, but the greatest scoring machine the Premier league has ever seen is now officially Chelsea FC. 103 goals is an unreal statistic.

If I recall correctly, that's the Blues with the best defensive record, best scoring record, and best points record in the PL's history.

And lastly. Well done Mr Ancellotti. I tip my head. A very simple, modest, low key approach that has yielded reward. Back in January I thought the f***er was mad not to buy to strengthen, but he was prooved spot on.

As my friend always says, "how sweet it is....".

hollowness? was just a reminder to our tony who loves to WUM, unlike some i congratulated back in April 3rd & was spot on yet again  ;) (for the record also picked inter to win the European cup before they played Chelsea)

A couple of more United records Chelsea could beat? biggest win (9-0) in the PL's history held since 1995, largest away win (1-8 )in the history of Pl held since 1999 & the biggest winning margin (18 points) held since 2000

Cantona was never classed a top goal scoring striker & fair play to 32 year old Drogba on his best ever total of goals

Anyways enjoy the league success  & hopefully another good exciting title race next season 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 13, 2010, 03:45:13 PM
Branislav Ivanovic a big doubt for Saturday.

He's had a top class season has our Brana..... The man with the stare.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 13, 2010, 03:59:34 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 13, 2010, 03:45:13 PM
Branislav Ivanovic a big doubt for Saturday.

He's had a top class season has our Brana..... The man with the stare.

Probably Chelsea's most consistent player over the season...and he's really a converted centre back
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 13, 2010, 09:18:26 PM
Barclays Golden Glove winner Petr Cech was back to his reliable best during the 2009/10 campaign, keeping 17 clean sheets to seal the award for a second time.

The Czech Republic international conceded just 26 goals in the Barclays Premier League all season, providing a foundation for his team's attacking exploits.

Liverpool's Pepe Reina also managed 17 clean sheets, but Cech takes the Barclays Golden Glove due to having a better ratio of clean sheets to games played.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: ross4life on May 13, 2010, 09:52:41 PM
I wonder which team got the most clean sheets?
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 13, 2010, 09:18:26 PM
Cech takes the Barclays Golden Glove due to having a better ratio of clean sheets to games played.


Strange way to decide it? should be the most saves were Reina (103) to Cech (65)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: ludermor on May 13, 2010, 10:05:13 PM
do you want to have an award for least goals conceded per shots?
Title: Re: Well done Chelsea FC
Post by: stew on May 13, 2010, 10:50:00 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on May 10, 2010, 10:09:07 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on May 10, 2010, 09:46:50 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 10, 2010, 09:20:20 AM
It may be just me - but i find Chelsea the most hateful bunch of hoors ever to be assembled together on the same football pitch, the sight of Ashley Cole, John Terry and Didier Drogba celebrating will always make me feel a little bit sick! (Dont mind Lampard though)

All of them combinded aren't  half as hateful as Gary Neville

Or Rafa

Gary Neville is a hateful carn but Drogba, Cole and Terry, give over, combined they are worse than Neville, just.

Rafa is not hateful, a bollocks yes but hateful.................. nah.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: stew on May 13, 2010, 10:58:03 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 13, 2010, 09:18:26 PM
Barclays Golden Glove winner Petr Cech was back to his reliable best during the 2009/10 campaign, keeping 17 clean sheets to seal the award for a second time.

The Czech Republic international conceded just 26 goals in the Barclays Premier League all season, providing a foundation for his team's attacking exploits.

Liverpool's Pepe Reina also managed 17 clean sheets, but Cech takes the Barclays Golden Glove due to having a better ratio of clean sheets to games played.

Reina is real quality and God knows were the pool would have finished if they didnt have the best keeper in the league behind them. Reina is world class and with Torres is the most important player at the club, Stevie G seems to have burst his bubble.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on May 14, 2010, 09:34:06 AM
For me Reina was the best keeper in the league, Cech had a great season but Chelsea defended a lot better as a team this year - an Italian trait?  I still think Cech is too error prone nowadays.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 14, 2010, 09:36:40 AM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 14, 2010, 09:34:06 AM
For me Reina was the best keeper in the league, Cech had a great season but Chelsea defended a lot better as a team this year - an Italian trait?  I still think Cech is too error prone nowadays.

Doogie, because of Chelsea's all round brilliance this year :P, Cech had fewer opportunities to show what a great keeper he is.  Reina was playing for a bad lot!! ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on May 14, 2010, 10:02:55 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 14, 2010, 09:36:40 AM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 14, 2010, 09:34:06 AM
For me Reina was the best keeper in the league, Cech had a great season but Chelsea defended a lot better as a team this year - an Italian trait?  I still think Cech is too error prone nowadays.

Doogie, because of Chelsea's all round brilliance this year :P, Cech had fewer opportunities to show what a great keeper he is.  Reina was playing for a bad lot!! ;)
Thats a fair point, a keeper bombarded with so many shots is bound to save a few, so I take it all back, Brad Friedel was the best keeper in the league this year (apart from the day the sun got in his eyes in SW6)  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 14, 2010, 10:40:44 AM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 14, 2010, 10:02:55 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 14, 2010, 09:36:40 AM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 14, 2010, 09:34:06 AM
For me Reina was the best keeper in the league, Cech had a great season but Chelsea defended a lot better as a team this year - an Italian trait?  I still think Cech is too error prone nowadays.

Doogie, because of Chelsea's all round brilliance this year :P, Cech had fewer opportunities to show what a great keeper he is.  Reina was playing for a bad lot!! ;)
Thats a fair point, a keeper bombarded with so many shots is bound to save a few, so I take it all back, Brad Friedel was the best keeper in the league this year (apart from the day the sun got in his eyes in SW6)  :P

Seriously, between 2004 and 2006 Cech was almost flawless probably the best in the world.  He hasn't been the same keeper since the injury and although still a fine player I wouldn't put him in the top three in the Prem now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 14, 2010, 11:13:23 AM
Top 3 for me based on season just finished....

1. Hart
2. Reina
3. Cech
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Minder on May 14, 2010, 11:21:59 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 14, 2010, 11:13:23 AM
Top 1 for me based on season just finished....

1. Reina

I agree.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on May 14, 2010, 12:39:21 PM
Why does no-one mention Edwin Van Der Sar? I think he has a shout for best keeper but he'd certainly be in the top 3 or 4.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on May 14, 2010, 12:40:49 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 14, 2010, 12:39:21 PM
Why does no-one mention Edwin Van Der Sar? I think he has a shout for best keeper but he'd certainly be in the top 3 or 4.
Cos he ish not very good yesh.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on May 14, 2010, 12:45:57 PM
Didn't have to pick the ball out of his net 7 times in one game this season unlike someone else mentioned.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on May 14, 2010, 01:02:29 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 14, 2010, 12:45:57 PM
Didn't have to pick the ball out of his net 7 times in one game this season unlike someone else mentioned.
You really put me in my box with that one, shall I go and sit on the naughty step too?  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on May 14, 2010, 01:40:52 PM
Van Der Sar is as good as there is, probably the best all round keeper in the league.  Reina is a good shot stopper, but not as good with the ball at his feet or at dealing with crosses as VDS is.  Cech has not been the same keeper since the injury, and as for Chelsea defending better this year, I definitely think they have been more vulnerable at the back than in previous years.  It's hard to rate keepers because as mentioned a keeper in a bad team will have a lot more work to do and can pull of more eye catching saves etc, whereas a keeper at a top team is ridiculed because they apparently dont have much to do.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 14, 2010, 01:43:39 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 14, 2010, 01:40:52 PM
Van Der Sar is as good as there is, probably the best all round keeper in the league.  Reina is a good shot stopper, but not as good with the ball at his feet or at dealing with crosses as VDS is.  Cech has not been the same keeper since the injury, and as for Chelsea defending better this year, I definitely think they have been more vulnerable at the back than in previous years.  It's hard to rate keepers because as mentioned a keeper in a bad team will have a lot more work to do and can pull of more eye catching saves etc, whereas a keeper at a top team is ridiculed because they apparently dont have much to do.

Chelsea definately have been more vulnerable at times this year, but a lot of that stemmed from their inability to deal with set pieces. However that stat has improved dramatically since Alex returned to the side, and to a lesser degree a slight pick up in Cech's form.

I'd love to see what proportion of goals conceeded came from set pieces.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on May 14, 2010, 02:00:14 PM
If VDS was that good he would be in the Dutch World Cup squad FFS...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on May 14, 2010, 02:07:41 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 14, 2010, 02:00:14 PM
If VDS was that good he would be in the Dutch World Cup squad FFS...

I assume you're taking the piss with this comment?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on May 14, 2010, 02:12:51 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 14, 2010, 02:07:41 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 14, 2010, 02:00:14 PM
If VDS was that good he would be in the Dutch World Cup squad FFS...

I assume you're taking the piss with this comment?

I really don't think he is. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: bingobus on May 14, 2010, 02:13:47 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 14, 2010, 01:40:52 PM
Van Der Sar is as good as there is, probably the best all round keeper in the league.  Reina is a good shot stopper, but not as good with the ball at his feet or at dealing with crosses as VDS is.  Cech has not been the same keeper since the injury, and as for Chelsea defending better this year, I definitely think they have been more vulnerable at the back than in previous years.  It's hard to rate keepers because as mentioned a keeper in a bad team will have a lot more work to do and can pull of more eye catching saves etc, whereas a keeper at a top team is ridiculed because they apparently dont have much to do.

You joking right? Reina prob the best passer at Anfield
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on May 14, 2010, 02:23:12 PM
Quote from: bingobus on May 14, 2010, 02:13:47 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 14, 2010, 01:40:52 PM
Van Der Sar is as good as there is, probably the best all round keeper in the league.  Reina is a good shot stopper, but not as good with the ball at his feet or at dealing with crosses as VDS is.  Cech has not been the same keeper since the injury, and as for Chelsea defending better this year, I definitely think they have been more vulnerable at the back than in previous years.  It's hard to rate keepers because as mentioned a keeper in a bad team will have a lot more work to do and can pull of more eye catching saves etc, whereas a keeper at a top team is ridiculed because they apparently dont have much to do.

You joking right? Reina prob the best passer at Anfield

With all due respect Bingo, that's not saying alot. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: bingobus on May 14, 2010, 02:30:44 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 14, 2010, 02:23:12 PM
Quote from: bingobus on May 14, 2010, 02:13:47 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 14, 2010, 01:40:52 PM
Van Der Sar is as good as there is, probably the best all round keeper in the league.  Reina is a good shot stopper, but not as good with the ball at his feet or at dealing with crosses as VDS is.  Cech has not been the same keeper since the injury, and as for Chelsea defending better this year, I definitely think they have been more vulnerable at the back than in previous years.  It's hard to rate keepers because as mentioned a keeper in a bad team will have a lot more work to do and can pull of more eye catching saves etc, whereas a keeper at a top team is ridiculed because they apparently dont have much to do.

You joking right? Reina prob the best passer at Anfield

With all due respect Bingo, that's not saying alot.

With all due respect, your comment was BS
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Minder on May 14, 2010, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 14, 2010, 01:40:52 PM
Van Der Sar is as good as there is, probably the best all round keeper in the league.  Reina is a good shot stopper, but not as good with the ball at his feet or at dealing with crosses as VDS is.  Cech has not been the same keeper since the injury, and as for Chelsea defending better this year, I definitely think they have been more vulnerable at the back than in previous years.  It's hard to rate keepers because as mentioned a keeper in a bad team will have a lot more work to do and can pull of more eye catching saves etc, whereas a keeper at a top team is ridiculed because they apparently dont have much to do.

"Not as good with the ball at his feet" ??? Are you taking the piss Nrico or is this just the usual bitterness from you?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 14, 2010, 03:14:22 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 14, 2010, 02:00:14 PM
If VDS was that good he would be in the Dutch World Cup squad FFS...

Van Marwijk asked VDS to go to the World Cup but he declined the offer.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on May 14, 2010, 03:17:34 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 14, 2010, 03:14:22 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 14, 2010, 02:00:14 PM
If VDS was that good he would be in the Dutch World Cup squad FFS...

Van Marwijk asked VDS to go to the World Cup but he declined the offer.
I had my tongue firmly in cheek AQMP, unlike nrico who has his tongue in between Slur Alex's cheeks.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 14, 2010, 04:19:59 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 14, 2010, 03:17:34 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 14, 2010, 03:14:22 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 14, 2010, 02:00:14 PM
If VDS was that good he would be in the Dutch World Cup squad FFS...

Van Marwijk asked VDS to go to the World Cup but he declined the offer.
I had my tongue firmly in cheek AQMP, unlike nrico who has his tongue in between Slur Alex's cheeks.

Would there be room? What with all the Premier League referees and people like big Sam in there too...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 14, 2010, 04:37:18 PM
Quote from: Boycey on May 14, 2010, 04:36:16 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on May 14, 2010, 04:19:59 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 14, 2010, 03:17:34 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 14, 2010, 03:14:22 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 14, 2010, 02:00:14 PM
If VDS was that good he would be in the Dutch World Cup squad FFS...

Van Marwijk asked VDS to go to the World Cup but he declined the offer.
I had my tongue firmly in cheek AQMP, unlike nrico who has his tongue in between Slur Alex's cheeks.

Would there be room? What with all the Premier League referees and people like big Sam in there too...

I see the obsession shows no sign of abating even in the close season

:D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 15, 2010, 09:08:08 AM
So within 8 hours or so the curtain will draw on another season of top flight entertainment. The big question for me is will there be a double, and some history, at the end of it?

The obvious answer is yes. However that is the worry today. Six days after annexing the Premier League, with the greatest goal scoring squad the Premier League has ever seen, it's time to refocus, and that'll be key.

No doubt there will be some members of the Chelsea goal scoring machine already thinking of Sarf Africa, and thinking 'it's only Portsmouth'. However Pompey aren't quite as bad as their record suggests, and they will have a squad of players in the shop window for next season today.

However if all goes to plan, Ashley Cole should have his record breaking 6th medal today. I am tipping 3-0 with Kalou or Malouda to star.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 15, 2010, 10:37:10 AM
NT...I'm old enough to remember Sunderland v Leeds in 1973 and Southampton v Man Utd in 1976 and to a lesser extent West Ham v Arsenal in 1980(?).  It's not over til it's over...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 15, 2010, 10:46:09 AM
Torres to Chelsea ???

From today's Guardian:

Chelsea are hopeful of luring Fernando Torres from Liverpool after making discreet inquiries, according to reports last night. Torres is reported to be one of Chelsea's key targets as they aim finally to win the Champions League. The coach, Carlo Ancelotti, and the owner, Roman Abramovich, are believed to agree that extra quality is needed to achieve their goal.  "I would like to play with Torres," Ancelotti said recently. "He is a very good player. But this is not an issue for now. He is a Liverpool player." The Spanish striker would likely command a British-record fee in any deal. Manchester City have also been linked with him, and have the resources to pay a huge fee, but their lack of Champions League football would be a drawback
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 15, 2010, 10:47:43 AM
Don't forget Wimbledon v Liverpool 1988....it can happen..

Play Up Pompey,Pompey Play Up....... :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 15, 2010, 12:17:22 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on May 15, 2010, 10:47:43 AM
Don't forget Wimbledon v Liverpool 1988....it can happen..

Play Up Pompey,Pompey Play Up....... :)

Very true. Reading and Liverpool this year, Man United and Leeds as well.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: orangeman on May 15, 2010, 03:42:47 PM
Chelsea have missed some chances so far.

Ports ave missed a sitter as well.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 15, 2010, 03:52:55 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 15, 2010, 03:42:47 PM
Chelsea have missed some chances so far.

Ports ave missed a sitter as well.

How is it not 5-0 or maybe 5-1 ???  Portsmouth have parked the bus but Kalou needs shooting for that miss.  My mother could have scored.  Boateng close to a red for that "tackle" on Ballack
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Geoff Tipps on May 15, 2010, 04:18:02 PM
What a sh*t penalty. Just blast it  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: ross4life on May 15, 2010, 04:20:47 PM
1-0 now! missed penalty was the turning point of this FA Cup Final
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: orangeman on May 15, 2010, 04:40:43 PM
Portsmouth have defended extremely well here.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: ross4life on May 15, 2010, 04:47:17 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 15, 2010, 04:40:43 PM
Portsmouth have defended extremely well here.

Agreed Something Liverpool, Wigan, Stoke, Sunderland & villa didn't do v Chelsea
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC - Double Winners 2009-2010
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 15, 2010, 04:58:19 PM
 ;D

A game that reflected Chelsea's season.  Some good stuff in the first half but 2nd was pretty insipid uninspiring stuff, stuttering to a win against a fairly poor side who got the rub of the green in the 1st half ;).  Two shocking pens as well.  Two nasty tackles by Boateng and Dindane.  The pitch was a disgrace.

Apart from that an instantly forgettable game
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: ross4life on May 15, 2010, 04:59:52 PM
Fair play to Pompey great fight & desire those fans should be well proud of their players today, anyways congrats to Dundee United on winning the Scottish Fa cup
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Minder on May 15, 2010, 05:04:47 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 15, 2010, 04:47:17 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 15, 2010, 04:40:43 PM
Portsmouth have defended extremely well here.

Agreed Something Liverpool, Wigan, Stoke, Sunderland & villa didn't do v Chelsea

I'm not sure how well they defended, bad luck and poor finishing by Chelsea moreso. How many times did Chelsea hit the woodwork, six?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC - Double Winners 2009 -2010
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 15, 2010, 05:20:56 PM
BTW...big shout for Jamie O'Hara, probably the best player on the pitch.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC - Double Winners 2009 -2010
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 17, 2010, 11:21:11 AM
Musings on the season.

So Chelsea win the double for the first time in their history.  It's the eleventh double of all time and Chelsea become the seventh club to complete this feat, still behind Man Utd and Arsenal's 3 but now level with Liverpool.  Yet the media response seems quite muted.  There are maybe five reasons for this.  1) England win some tin pot cricket tournament in the Caribbean.  2)  Some slapper sets out to catch somebody called Triesman with his kecks down and ends up with a more interesting story.  3)  While not easier in any sense a double is now more likely and more common due to the dominance of a small number of clubs.  4) Some sections of the print media especially cannot stand Chelsea.

But the main reason may be the quality of the football of the season that has just passed.  While the league at some stages was described as unpredictable and competitive, the only major surprise was the performance of Liverpool who had they played the way the played last season would have walked the league.  Teams like Man City, Aston Vila, and Spurs may look back on 2009-2010 as the season they should have made a breakthrough.

However it did feel like a season in which no team got a rhythm going.  Chelsea's season was split broadly into three.  They actually started quite well and for by hiccups against Wigan and Aston Villa and an apparent inability to defend set pieces, by the time they overwhelmed Arsenal 0-3 on 29 Nov they had already also beaten Man Utd and Liverpool without conceding a goal as well as being unbeaten in the CL and were looking good bets for the league.  However there began the second part of their season and they won only one of their next seven games (that being a penalty assisted win over Pompey).  Chelsea played poorly right up until the end of February despite a win over Arsenal and a few half decent wins in the Cup.  During this period Man City completed the double over Chelsea who managed 1 point over the two games with Everton.

By St Patrick's Day they were out of the Champions League, hammered by Inter over the two games, and there followed a poor performance against Blackburn.  The third part of the season began on Wed 24th March with a 5-0 away drubbing of Portsmouth.  Despite a blip (again a poor display) against Spurs, Chelsea beat Man Utd and Liverpool away and hit seven goals twice and 8 goals once.  Chelsea played their best football since the early weeks of Sept and Oct and won the league on the last day.

Yet despite this Chelsea scored the most goals by a league winning team and had the best goal difference ever (I think...back in the day it was goal average and not goal difference that counted).  They took 18 points off the other members of the so called Big Four conceding one goal over the six games.  Drogba and Lampard scored 51 Prem goals between them (one fewer than the entire Aston Villa side who finished 6th!!).  They had to cope without players like Essien, Bosingwa, both Coles, Carvalho etc for large parts of the season and with Terry underperforming (on the pitch at least)

Chelsea will not get the credit for the double due in part to the media's fawning over Man Utd (they're afraid of Ferguson) and a love-in with Arsenal (well we all wet ourselves watching that tippy-tappy five a side stuff).  Well, I couldn't leave the conspiracy theories out!  Man Utd relied this season on playing averagely and winning, and the goals of Rooney. 

But while the record books will not say "2009-2010 Chelsea did the double (shit season)", I must say that's how it feels at the moment.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Rossie11 on May 17, 2010, 11:39:58 AM
Ballack out of WC
From the Beeb

Germany captain Michael Ballack has been ruled out of this summer's World Cup because of the right ankle injury he suffered in Saturday's FA Cup final.

The 33-year-old Chelsea midfielder has made 98 appearances for his country and played in the last two World Cups.

A scan revealed a partially torn ligament but it is expected to be eight weeks before he can resume training and Germany's first match is on 13 June.

He was injured after a challenge by Portsmouth's Kevin-Prince Boateng.

Ironically, Boateng could be part of the Ghana squad that will face Germany in Group D at the finals in South Africa.

More to follow
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 17, 2010, 11:43:26 AM
Quote from: Rossie11 on May 17, 2010, 11:39:58 AM
Ballack out of WC
From the Beeb

Germany captain Michael Ballack has been ruled out of this summer's World Cup because of the right ankle injury he suffered in Saturday's FA Cup final.

The 33-year-old Chelsea midfielder has made 98 appearances for his country and played in the last two World Cups.

A scan revealed a partially torn ligament but it is expected to be eight weeks before he can resume training and Germany's first match is on 13 June.

He was injured after a challenge by Portsmouth's Kevin-Prince Boateng.

Ironically, Boateng could be part of the Ghana squad that will face Germany in Group D at the finals in South Africa.

More to follow

That was a brutal tackle, could easily have been red. And maybe I'm cynical, but I didn't think it was 'Ironic' at all.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on May 17, 2010, 11:44:36 AM
I have to say it was a spiteful tackle, gutted for Ballack as I always enjoy cheering on the Jerries at World Cups.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Main Street on May 17, 2010, 12:07:50 PM
The extent of the injury is tough on Ballack, but that has nothing to do with Boateng.
The hard tackle had to made on that bollix, it was worth an obligatory yellow card, no more no less.


Meanwhile it just gets better and better for JT -  Captain, Leader, Legend

(http://sgstb.msn.com/i/31/22312217A0401C61BEF35BAC373C7.jpg)



Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 17, 2010, 12:15:16 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 17, 2010, 12:07:50 PM
The extent of the injury is tough on Ballack, but that has nothing to do with Boateng.
The hard tackle had to made on that bollix, it was worth an obligatory yellow card, no more no less.


Apart from the fact he made the late, studs up, tackle nowhere near the ball...no ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Main Street on May 17, 2010, 12:31:29 PM
An intent to hurt Ballack, sure. He deserved some retribution.
The ball was there when Boateng made his plunge, Ballack had kicked it away before 'contact' was made.
Didn't Chelsea score from the free kick. 
Ballack took one for the team but only goes on whining afterwards like a little boy whose lost his toy.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 17, 2010, 12:40:24 PM
So a studs up challenge deliberately intending to injure the opponent is not a red card ???

Retribution ???...for what ???

It's clear you didn't see the match Main Street.  Ballack was injured in the first half Chelsea scored in the second...apart from that..spot on ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Main Street on May 17, 2010, 02:21:26 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 17, 2010, 12:40:24 PM
So a studs up challenge deliberately intending to injure the opponent is not a red card ???

Retribution ???...for what ???

It's clear you didn't see the match Main Street.  Ballack was injured in the first half Chelsea scored in the second...apart from that..spot on ::)

A mere detail,  Ballack is still a whiner.

You appear to determine intent to cripple Ballack, I don't.  It was  a poor tackle from a forward, but did the job nonetheless.
Ballack had been at Boateng earlier.
Regrettable that Ballack's WC is over but that's an occasional effect of the game.
You wouldn't hear Giles or Irwin whining in public about getting injured in a game.
Ballack has no class.




Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 17, 2010, 03:04:01 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 17, 2010, 02:21:26 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 17, 2010, 12:40:24 PM
So a studs up challenge deliberately intending to injure the opponent is not a red card ???

Retribution ???...for what ???

It's clear you didn't see the match Main Street.  Ballack was injured in the first half Chelsea scored in the second...apart from that..spot on ::)

A mere detail,  Ballack is still a whiner.

You appear to determine intent to cripple Ballack, I don't.  It was  a poor tackle from a forward, but did the job nonetheless.
Ballack had been at Boateng earlier.
Regrettable that Ballack's WC is over but that's an occasional effect of the game.
You wouldn't hear Giles or Irwin whining in public about getting injured in a game.
Ballack has no class.

:D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: fearbrags on May 17, 2010, 03:22:36 PM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=787982&sec=transfers&cc=5901
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 17, 2010, 04:02:50 PM
Quote from: fearbrags on May 17, 2010, 03:22:36 PM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=787982&sec=transfers&cc=5901

If true...complete and utter madness
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on May 17, 2010, 05:16:25 PM
Ballack slapped Boateng in the face earlier in the game and later Boateng nearly crippled him and knocked him out of the world cup. Both should have got red cards.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC - Double Winners 2009 -2010
Post by: ross4life on May 17, 2010, 05:57:07 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 17, 2010, 11:21:11 AM
Musings on the season.

So Chelsea win the double for the first time in their history.  It's the eleventh double of all time and Chelsea become the seventh club to complete this feat, still behind Man Utd and Arsenal's 3 but now level with Liverpool.  Yet the media response seems quite muted.  There are maybe five reasons for this.  1) England win some tin pot cricket tournament in the Caribbean.  2)  Some slapper sets out to catch somebody called Triesman with his kecks down and ends up with a more interesting story.  3)  While not easier in any sense a double is now more likely and more common due to the dominance of a small number of clubs.  4) Some sections of the print media especially cannot stand Chelsea.

But the main reason may be the quality of the football of the season that has just passed.  While the league at some stages was described as unpredictable and competitive, the only major surprise was the performance of Liverpool who had they played the way the played last season would have walked the league.  Teams like Man City, Aston Vila, and Spurs may look back on 2009-2010 as the season they should have made a breakthrough.

However it did feel like a season in which no team got a rhythm going.  Chelsea's season was split broadly into three.  They actually started quite well and for by hiccups against Wigan and Aston Villa and an apparent inability to defend set pieces, by the time they overwhelmed Arsenal 0-3 on 29 Nov they had already also beaten Man Utd and Liverpool without conceding a goal as well as being unbeaten in the CL and were looking good bets for the league.  However there began the second part of their season and they won only one of their next seven games (that being a penalty assisted win over Pompey).  Chelsea played poorly right up until the end of February despite a win over Arsenal and a few half decent wins in the Cup.  During this period Man City completed the double over Chelsea who managed 1 point over the two games with Everton.

By St Patrick's Day they were out of the Champions League, hammered by Inter over the two games, and there followed a poor performance against Blackburn.  The third part of the season began on Wed 24th March with a 5-0 away drubbing of Portsmouth.  Despite a blip (again a poor display) against Spurs, Chelsea beat Man Utd and Liverpool away and hit seven goals twice and 8 goals once.  Chelsea played their best football since the early weeks of Sept and Oct and won the league on the last day.

Yet despite this Chelsea scored the most goals by a league winning team and had the best goal difference ever (I think...back in the day it was goal average and not goal difference that counted).  They took 18 points off the other members of the so called Big Four conceding one goal over the six games.  Drogba and Lampard scored 51 Prem goals between them (one fewer than the entire Aston Villa side who finished 6th!!).  They had to cope without players like Essien, Bosingwa, both Coles, Carvalho etc for large parts of the season and with Terry underperforming (on the pitch at least)

Chelsea will not get the credit for the double due in part to the media's fawning over Man Utd (they're afraid of Ferguson) and a love-in with Arsenal (well we all wet ourselves watching that tippy-tappy five a side stuff).  Well, I couldn't leave the conspiracy theories out!  Man Utd relied this season on playing averagely and winning, and the goals of Rooney. 

But while the record books will not say "2009-2010 Chelsea did the double (shit season)", I must say that's how it feels at the moment.

less reaction when the double becomes more common, when United won the double in 1994 (there 1st) it was only the 2nd double for 20 years & less media attention to Chelsea in Ireland for obvious reasons
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Main Street on May 17, 2010, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 17, 2010, 05:16:25 PM
Ballack slapped Boateng in the face earlier in the game and later Boateng nearly crippled him and knocked him out of the world cup. Both should have got red cards.

Ballack will have plenty of time to reflect on his behaviour, he wound up the wrong guy at the wrong time and got injured in the inevitable act of retribution.
Meanwhile, Boateng has a World Cup to enjoy.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 17, 2010, 10:44:36 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 17, 2010, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 17, 2010, 05:16:25 PM
Ballack slapped Boateng in the face earlier in the game and later Boateng nearly crippled him and knocked him out of the world cup. Both should have got red cards.

Ballack will have plenty of time to reflect on his behaviour, he wound up the wrong guy at the wrong time and got injured in the inevitable act of retribution.
Meanwhile, Boateng has a World Cup to enjoy.

To be honset with you Main Street that's a silly comment for you. If you had've watched the game- I can appreicate how the big games have little interest for you anymore  ;)- Ballack had been cleaned 2/ 3 times prior to his reaction. Indeed there was a bad tackle on the German earlier in the game, and he got straight back up on his feet, possibly saving the aggressor a booking.

The incident where he slapped the fella, if you watch it again Ballack was victim of a flying hand first. When he retaliated- wrongly and he could've been red carded for it- whoever the Pompey player was threw himself to the ground like he had been pole axed.

Ballack will probably need the summer to count his medal collection. Boateng can spend his summer knowing he f**ked up his chance of a FA Cup medal.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: ross4life on May 17, 2010, 11:38:10 PM
isn't Ballack the guy that's known as the Jimmy White of Soccer? getting to Major finals (Champions league ,World cup) but losing?

he was a fantastic player in the early 00s, IMO Chelsea got him when he had already reached his peak
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on May 18, 2010, 09:56:03 AM
Quote from: ross4life on May 17, 2010, 11:38:10 PM
isn't Ballack the guy that's known as the Jimmy White of Soccer? getting to Major finals (Champions league ,World cup) but losing?

he was a fantastic player in the early 00s, IMO Chelsea got him when he had already reached his peak
Yeah, Ballack is a notorious loser  ::) Wise up.
He single handedly dragged Leverkusen to a CL final and then done the same with a poor German team in taking them to the 2002 World Cup Final in the same year, sacrificing his own place in the final.  Countless medals with Munich and Chelsea hardly qualify him as a runner up.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 18, 2010, 10:05:48 AM
Quote from: Main Street on May 17, 2010, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 17, 2010, 05:16:25 PM
Ballack slapped Boateng in the face earlier in the game and later Boateng nearly crippled him and knocked him out of the world cup. Both should have got red cards.

Ballack will have plenty of time to reflect on his behaviour, he wound up the wrong guy at the wrong time and got injured in the inevitable act of retribution.
Meanwhile, Boateng has a World Cup to enjoy.

After Saturday, any team taking this plank to the World Cup will be struggling already...

Ballack has won:

1 English Premier League
4 Bundesligas
3 FA Cups
3 German Cups
1 English League Cup
1 German League Cup (OK I didn't know there was one either!!)

98 caps for Germany scoring 42 goals (not bad for a midfielder)

OK there are pleny of players who've won more but that's not a bad haul

Norf Tyrone...I think Ballack could do a job for Chelsea in the holding midfield role as he gets older...should Chelsea give him a two year deal or get rid now and pin hopes on Mikel (who hasn't quite lived up to his potential)??  PS Change the thread title!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Main Street on May 18, 2010, 12:13:45 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 17, 2010, 10:44:36 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 17, 2010, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 17, 2010, 05:16:25 PM
Ballack slapped Boateng in the face earlier in the game and later Boateng nearly crippled him and knocked him out of the world cup. Both should have got red cards.

Ballack will have plenty of time to reflect on his behaviour, he wound up the wrong guy at the wrong time and got injured in the inevitable act of retribution.
Meanwhile, Boateng has a World Cup to enjoy.

To be honset with you Main Street that's a silly comment for you. If you had've watched the game- I can appreicate how the big games have little interest for you anymore  ;)- Ballack had been cleaned 2/ 3 times prior to his reaction. Indeed there was a bad tackle on the German earlier in the game, and he got straight back up on his feet, possibly saving the aggressor a booking.

The incident where he slapped the fella, if you watch it again Ballack was victim of a flying hand first. When he retaliated- wrongly and he could've been red carded for it- whoever the Pompey player was threw himself to the ground like he had been pole axed.

Ballack will probably need the summer to count his medal collection. Boateng can spend his summer knowing he f**ked up his chance of a FA Cup medal.
I seriously doubt if he can find even a morsel of solace counting his medals while he spots Boateng on the World Cup stage, that is if he can bear to watch.
Ballack's post match whining is evidence enough of his character
On the other hand, re Chelsea, my character is impeccable and thoroughly professional  ::) I do not have petty axes to grind which is a tiresome leading feature in the various EPL discussions.
Club affiliation is that strange place where one week a player for another club can be hated and the next week (after a 10% pay rise) he is loved by his new club and hated by his old club.  I have seldom seen or noticed Ballack for Chelsea but for Germany and Bayern I have noted him as a player who does not hesitate to dive to feign injury, scream at the ref, determined to get his fellow professional into trouble over imagined offenses.
I watched this game in which I have absolutely no interest in who wins.
My opinion, considering the pattern of actions in the game is that Ballack got what he deserved, a clattering, in the way that clatterings are dished out towards players who lose control of their arrogance.
It is regrettable for Ballack that his clattering has resulted in him missing the World Cup, as he is a fine player but that is the nature of the game.  Players make bad tackles and the same players receive bad tackles, not worthy of any comment until a split second difference in execution results in a more serious injury.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on May 18, 2010, 12:19:47 PM
i read somewhere that there was history between ballack and boateng; anyone any detail on this?

wont get involved in the argument other than to say ballack has seriously went down in my estimation since he hit the premiership....used to be a big fan..
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on May 18, 2010, 01:28:21 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on May 18, 2010, 12:19:47 PM
i read somewhere that there was history between ballack and boateng; anyone any detail on this?

wont get involved in the argument other than to say ballack has seriously went down in my estimation since he hit the premiership....used to be a big fan..

Agreed
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 18, 2010, 02:51:31 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on May 18, 2010, 12:19:47 PM
i read somewhere that there was history between ballack and boateng; anyone any detail on this?

wont get involved in the argument other than to say ballack has seriously went down in my estimation since he hit the premiership....used to be a big fan..

Or another way. I used to like Ballack until he joined Chelsea.

Seriously lads.....  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions Thread
Post by: ross4life on May 18, 2010, 06:31:21 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 18, 2010, 09:56:03 AM
Quote from: ross4life on May 17, 2010, 11:38:10 PM
isn't Ballack the guy that's known as the Jimmy White of Soccer? getting to Major finals (Champions league ,World cup) but losing?

he was a fantastic player in the early 00s, IMO Chelsea got him when he had already reached his peak
Yeah, Ballack is a notorious loser  ::) Wise up.
He single handedly dragged Leverkusen to a CL final and then done the same with a poor German team in taking them to the 2002 World Cup Final in the same year, sacrificing his own place in the final.  Countless medals with Munich and Chelsea hardly qualify him as a runner up.

Major finals i said  ::) did you forget the 2008 final? & where did i say he was a loser BTW Jimmy White won loads outside of the World title


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on May 18, 2010, 06:44:02 PM
Great comparison Ross, a player in a team sport and a sportsman that plays an individual sport.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on May 18, 2010, 07:00:40 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 18, 2010, 06:44:02 PM
Great comparison Ross, a player in a team sport and a sportsman that plays an individual sport.

Hmm how would you put it  ???



Missed the point spectacularly.



Again
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: paco on May 18, 2010, 07:14:00 PM
Anyone see John Terry's interview on Sky? Said that he would take the double over the Champion's League every season for the rest of his career, because they had never won the double in their history. Didn't make sense to me. What's the consensus from the blues on here?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on May 18, 2010, 08:52:34 PM
norf tyrone; not at all; a liverpool fan admittedly, but my hatred for utd far surpasses any hatred for chelski; so yous were lesser of the 2 evils this year;

a huge admirer of the german mentality and their football in general; i thought ballack was pretty much a complete midfielder; then he comes to engerland, and by and large has been a failure; fair enough he has a few medals; but dont think he would be making your first choice midfield;

that is all.

now, what about this history?  see boateng has apologised; but ballack still considering legal action.......
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Puckoon on May 18, 2010, 08:59:27 PM
Ballack definitely has not hit his suggested potential in England.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: new devil on May 18, 2010, 09:25:43 PM
Ballack,Ashley Cole and John Terry are 3 off the players i hate most but i don't mind chelsea...just a pity them other two didn't miss the world cup as well
I don't think United fans see Chelsea as rivals like Arsenal and Liverpool because once red Rom leaves with his money they will go back to just plain old Chelsea
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on May 18, 2010, 10:00:34 PM
not often i agree with a manc, but thats sort of the liverpool opinion on them too (and before ye start i know were not terribly big rivals for anyone atm);
basically until chelski come close to 18 titles they can have their fun for a while; and while annoyin to see thon cnut terry with a smile on his face; well accept it through gritted teeth for a while anyway...

anyway, enough of the thread hijacking; away for an cup o tae....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 18, 2010, 10:16:32 PM
Quote from: paco on May 18, 2010, 07:14:00 PM
Anyone see John Terry's interview on Sky? Said that he would take the double over the Champion's League every season for the rest of his career, because they had never won the double in their history. Didn't make sense to me. What's the consensus from the blues on here?

I agree. Doesn't make sense.

Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on May 18, 2010, 08:52:34 PM
now, what about this history?  see boateng has apologised; but ballack still considering legal action.......

It's actually his agent who is talking about the legal action, not Ballack as far as I see. Probably all hot air. There is no grounds for legal action. It was a bad tackle alright, but you'll see them type of 'letting you know I am there tackles' regularly.

Quote from: Puckoon on May 18, 2010, 08:59:27 PM
Ballack definitely has not hit his suggested potential in England.

No arguments there. He has been just ok. I can think of very few games where he was the outstanding player. However he is useful in that deep sitting, holding role dictating the play. Personally I think he'd merit another 12 months at a greatly reduced wage. However it wouldn't be the end of the world if he went.

Quote from: new devil on May 18, 2010, 09:25:43 PM
Ballack,Ashley Cole and John Terry are 3 off the players i hate most but i don't mind chelsea...just a pity them other two didn't miss the world cup as well
I don't think United fans see Chelsea as rivals like Arsenal and Liverpool because once red Rom leaves with his money they will go back to just plain old Chelsea

People have been talking about Rom leaving from the day he took over. I thought it was fantastic to see an owner living the game against Wigan. Kicked every kick and headed every cross. He looks like a man who is enjoying it as much as ever. Indeed his major 'gift' earlier this year substantiates that.

Onto that Chelsea are slowly getting themselves into a position where Rom's money is not as important. Take a look at the data to see where the money has been spent in the transfer market over the last three seasons, and you'll see Chelsea in 7th spot.

Chelsea's global support has multipied over the last few seasons as well, and IF (And it's a BIG if) Rom ever does decide to sell up, we'll be in a much stronger position than where we were in May 20004. And if we're not, sure it'll have a loc of yaers of quer craic. Also Arnesan's youth policy shows signs of delivery with Kakura, Brauma, Stoch and a few others being elevated to the first team squad next season.

People have looked at Abromovich as being 'bad' for the game. I can appreciate that view point, but from a balance perspecitive I think he has brought more good. For example breaking the duopoly of Arsenal and United in the Premiership. How boring would it have been with these sides dominating on their own for the last 10 years?

The Russian has also saved so many clubs with the 'new money'. When the spree of 2004 and 2005 took place, this went on players from Blackburn, Charlton, West Ham and the like. This was money over and about the street value of the player's sold. This money then filtered through the leagues as those sides reinvested.

There was an article in one of the broad sheets a season or two back where two club's existance was said to have been secured by Roman's money (I think Southampton was one of them). Roman has single handedly pumped ~ £200million into the pyramid structure of the football league it's believed.

On jibbajabba's point there about "basically until chelski come close to 18 titles they can have their fun for a while". We are having fun. However I think the point is being missed. I don't support Chelsea because they win titles. By geezus the first 25 years of supporting them told me that. So the craic is not the winning, it's more- and this sounds really cheesey- just being Chelsea. I suppose your team, is your team.

If you recall Liverpool and United didn't commence their historys with 18 to their name. They had to build foundations, and become what they are today. Without being too bitchy about the whole thing, Liverpool and United have a shameful love in that helped them avoid being relegated one season before all these trophies came along. Who knows what might've happened if that event had not occured? Match fixing something that fans of both teams never seem to talk about when recounting history.

On a final note, Chelsea were accused of playing boring football and 'buying the title' in the first two seasons. They have spent very little the last few seasons (Relativelly speaking) and scored 103 goals this season, playing some exciting stuff. Still the negativity and bitterness appears.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 19, 2010, 09:40:27 AM
Norf, you're letting the board down with all this research, facts and structured analysis.  Can we get back to wild speculation mixed in with the odd insult here and there?

I wonder how many of the MU and Liverpool fans on the board started supporting their team because they were successful??

BTW Chelsea have 6 League titles.  People forget the 2nd Div wins in 1984 and 1989, part of the glory years that included triumphs in the Full Members Cups of 1986 and 1990 :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 19, 2010, 12:54:27 PM
Chelsea FC plc is "debt free"...or is it??

From the Guardian

When Chelsea published their accounts for 2008-09 earlier this year, the club announced that its owner, the Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich, had written off his mammoth £726m loan to the club, and converted it into shares.  But is not quite as clear-cut as that. Abramovich channelled his loans to the club, since taking it over in 2003 and wanting to spend its way to trophies, via a holding company, Chelsea Limited. He loaned money to Chelsea Limited, who then loaned it on to Chelsea FC plc, which runs the club.  It is true that the loans from the holding company to Chelsea FC plc were fully converted to shares last year. However Abramovich's loan to Chelsea Limited, the holding company which owns Chelsea FC plc, was not. That loan remains owing; in fact it increased from £701m, because Abramovich loaned another £25m in a year when Chelsea's extravagant spending, and the dismissal of Luiz Felipe Scolari and his coaching team, produced losses of £47m.  The accounts of Chelsea Limited (whose name was changed during the year to Fordstam Limited), show that loan still outstanding: £726m, owed to Abramovich.  A spokesman for the club confirmed that yesterday: "Recapitalisation of loans happened at the level of Chelsea FC plc, not the holding company (Fordstam), therefore making the football club debt free."  That is true. But Fordstam owns the football club company, and owes Abramovich £726m. The loan is interest free, but it is repayable if Abramovich gives 18 months' notice. The Russian could still demand the money back some day, either if the club is making a profit, or if he were to sell it. He has not, in fact, written off the huge loans he has made on his Chelsea adventure.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: bingobus on May 20, 2010, 12:18:50 PM
Not sure where to post this but is it true that Paul Terry, brother of John, and a footballer at a lower league club has been caught doing the dirty with the bird of the clubs goalkeeper!!

It is this a new Terry V Terry comp that soccer am have started?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 21, 2010, 09:15:43 PM
Juliano Belletti on Twitter tonight...

On twitter:

Bye London. What city! Forever in my life. My youngest son was born there. These three years were incredible. I will return soon. Bye!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 22, 2010, 10:27:44 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 21, 2010, 09:15:43 PM
Juliano Belletti on Twitter tonight...

On twitter:

Bye London. What city! Forever in my life. My youngest son was born there. These three years were incredible. I will return soon. Bye!

Must be going to West Ham ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 23, 2010, 11:20:17 PM
I always like Benayoun but I'd prefer to see Kakuta and/ or Stoch given a lash.

Benayoun, 30, said: "Ancelotti wants me for next season and now everything depends on Liverpool. Chelsea will have to pay some £6m but I believe that in the end I'll be moving there."
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 23, 2010, 11:23:08 PM
Brilliant for Blackpool to be in the Premiership.
At least Liverfool and Arse players can have a go on an open top bus!

;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: new devil on May 24, 2010, 04:54:22 AM
 :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: orangeman on June 09, 2010, 10:32:47 AM
BIG NEWS :



Joe Cole and Michael Ballack to leave Chelsea 

Ballack and Cole will be high-profile departures from Stamford Bridge
Chelsea have confirmed that Joe Cole and Michael Ballack are to leave the club on free transfers this summer.

Cole, 28, will depart at the start of July after the Premier League champions reportedly said they would not offer the England midfielder a fresh deal.

He joined Chelsea from West Ham for £6.6m in 2003 and is in South Africa preparing for the World Cup.

Germany midfielder Ballack, 33, who has been with Chelsea since 2006, will also not have his deal renewed.

Ballack was set to captain Germany at the World Cup but was ruled out of the tournament with an ankle injury suffered in May's FA Cup final victory over Portsmouth.

His contract also expires at the end of June and last month he was confident a new deal with Chelsea could be struck, telling Germany's Bild newspaper: "Chelsea are absolutely my first option."

Ballack was signed by former Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho on a free transfer from Bayern Munich in 2006.

606: DEBATE
I can't help but feel disappointed that two world class players are leaving on a free

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He made a total of 105 league appearances for the club - helping Chelsea clinch their first title since 2006 this year - while also winning three FA Cups.

Chelsea say that he will remain at their Cobham training base for treatment on the ankle until it is healed.

Cole's departure from Stamford Bridge will surprise many as he is expected to play an important role for England manager Fabio Capello in South Africa.

"We would like to thank him for his dedicated years of service and wish him well in his future career," read a Chelsea statement.

He failed to hold down a starting berth in the Chelsea team this season after returning from a serious knee injury in September last year.

Cole made a total of 26 league appearances and scored two goals - including a vital strike in the 2-1 victory over title rivals Manchester United in April.

Reports surfaced during the season that Cole's future was in doubt as contract negotiations over a new contract stalled, with suggestions that the player and his representatives angered Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich with their hard-line stance over wages.

Cole featured for England in the World Cup warm-up victory over Japan and scored in the 3-0 friendly victory over Platinum Stars on Monday.

His availability will alert a number of Premier League clubs, with Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool and Manchester City all linked with the player.

Last week, Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp - who managed Cole at West Ham - told BBC Radio 5 live that: "I've got a feeling he may have agreed a deal with somebody.

"I don't think it's going to be Tottenham that sign him but if he hasn't agreed a deal with somebody and he doesn't stay at Chelsea then we would be interested."



Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on June 09, 2010, 11:05:36 AM
Bit surprised at Cole considering he will probably start for the 4th favourites at the World Cup.  He's a player I've always rated.  He will be a great free for someone (Liverpool??) or back to W Ham??  Ballack probably back to Germany to finish his career?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AFS on June 09, 2010, 11:08:37 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on June 09, 2010, 11:05:36 AM
Bit surprised at Cole considering he will probably start for the 4th favourites at the World Cup.  He's a player I've always rated.  He will be a great free for someone (Liverpool??) or back to W Ham??  Ballack probably back to Germany to finish his career?

Or to the Middle East for the mega bucks.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on June 09, 2010, 11:10:50 AM
Quote from: AFS on June 09, 2010, 11:08:37 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on June 09, 2010, 11:05:36 AM
Bit surprised at Cole considering he will probably start for the 4th favourites at the World Cup.  He's a player I've always rated.  He will be a great free for someone (Liverpool??) or back to W Ham??  Ballack probably back to Germany to finish his career?

Or to the Middle East for the mega bucks.

Yeah, or the US with Henry
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 10, 2010, 05:05:57 PM
Sad to see Joe Cole and Ballack leave. However I am f**king gutted that Miroslav Stoch has gone. That's a real blow.

He was offered a new 4 year deal with Chelsea, but he turned on down as he was not guaranteed first team football. As such Chelsea had no option but to let him go now before his contract expired in June 2011. £4 million quid apparently.

With Cole, and Stoch away Chelsea now definately need a winger or two.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: paco on June 10, 2010, 05:09:02 PM
They must have really big plans letting all those players go. Transfer market will be exciting this year. Need to get over the World Cup first though!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Eastern_Pride on June 12, 2010, 03:25:17 PM
PROBABLE LINE-UPS

ENGLAND: Hart (Manchester City); Johnson (Liverpool), Terry (Chelsea), King (Tottenham), A Cole (Chelsea); Lennon (Tottenham), Lampard (Chelsea), Gerrard (Liverpool), Milner (Chelsea); ; Rooney (Manchester United); Crouch (Tottenham).

Do the Irish Times know something we don't?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 15, 2010, 12:58:35 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 23, 2010, 11:20:17 PM
I always like Benayoun but I'd prefer to see Kakuta and/ or Stoch given a lash.

Benayoun, 30, said: "Ancelotti wants me for next season and now everything depends on Liverpool. Chelsea will have to pay some £6m but I believe that in the end I'll be moving there."

Looking like Benayoun could be announced tomorrow. I like the lad, but not sure the strategy of letting Cole and Stoch and getting him in?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on June 15, 2010, 09:07:29 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on June 15, 2010, 12:58:35 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 23, 2010, 11:20:17 PM
I always like Benayoun but I'd prefer to see Kakuta and/ or Stoch given a lash.

Benayoun, 30, said: "Ancelotti wants me for next season and now everything depends on Liverpool. Chelsea will have to pay some £6m but I believe that in the end I'll be moving there."

Looking like Benayoun could be announced tomorrow. I like the lad, but not sure the strategy of letting Cole and Stoch and getting him in?

Absolutely NT, there's no way in the world that Benayoun is a better player than Joe Cole.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 16, 2010, 02:04:19 AM
Quote from: Boycey on June 15, 2010, 12:43:11 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on June 15, 2010, 09:07:29 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on June 15, 2010, 12:58:35 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 23, 2010, 11:20:17 PM
I always like Benayoun but I'd prefer to see Kakuta and/ or Stoch given a lash.

Benayoun, 30, said: "Ancelotti wants me for next season and now everything depends on Liverpool. Chelsea will have to pay some £6m but I believe that in the end I'll be moving there."

Looking like Benayoun could be announced tomorrow. I like the lad, but not sure the strategy of letting Cole and Stoch and getting him in?

Absolutely NT, there's no way in the world that Benayoun is a better player than Joe Cole.


Wages?? Chelsea need to comply with UEFAs new rules regarding wages being less than a certain percentage of turnover and with Cole being well behind Malouda now in pecking order they wouldn't wanna be paying 100k (its obscene when ya say it out loud)!! a week to someone outside first team. Would Benyoun command half that?? say 50k a week that saves Chelsea the not inconsiderable sum of 2.5mill a year. I'd say you see a lot of teams being facing up to this dilemma in the near future.

No doubt that's a large part of it Boycey, but I don't think those new rules come into force until 2010.

On that, apparently shifting Ballack, Cole and Belletti saves Chelsea almost £300K a week!!  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on June 25, 2010, 01:45:04 PM
Ballack signs for Bayer Leverkusen.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 17, 2010, 09:06:09 AM
Time to kick start the double winners thread again. The transfer market has been very quiet as of late, but I'll expect one or two additions before the season starts. A midfielder among the priorities.

Anyhow. Pre season starts today at Crystal Palace in what will be a shadow squad. Most of the World Cup players are still absent, and not risked will be Benayoun, Bosignwa, Zhirkov, and Mancienne. Add in Kakuta, Borini, Sala, Mellis and Delac in France are the Euro 19s, and maybe I should bring my boots.

Anyhow the good news is.... Essien is back!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 17, 2010, 02:42:44 PM
Petr Cech (capt)
Jeffrey Bruma
Alex
Patrick van Aanholt
Ryan Bertrand
John Mikel Obi
Michael Essien
Nemanja Matic
Josh McEachran
Franco Di Santo
Daniel Sturridge

Subs: Hilario, Ross Turnbull, Ben Gordon, Nathaniel Chalobah, Jack Cork, Conor Clifford, Daniel Philliskirk, Michael Woods, Kaby Djalo, Milan Lalkovic, Scott Sinclair


Good to see young Irish lad Clifford in the squad. I think that Chalobah is only 16.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: stiffler on July 17, 2010, 03:55:01 PM
Heard good reports about Clifford.

Is he likely to feature at all this season, maybe carling cup?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 17, 2010, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: stiffler on July 17, 2010, 03:55:01 PM
Heard good reports about Clifford.

Is he likely to feature at all this season, maybe carling cup?

Dunno. He definately has a chance, but looks a bit light yet. If Chelsea sign 2 or 3 more midfielders he'll get pushed back, but in the current situation he'll get the odd bench place. Year on loan to beef him might help him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 17, 2010, 06:51:43 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 17, 2010, 02:42:44 PM
Petr Cech (capt)
Jeffrey Bruma
Alex
Patrick van Aanholt
Ryan Bertrand
John Mikel Obi
Michael Essien
Nemanja Matic
Josh McEachran
Franco Di Santo
Daniel Sturridge

Subs: Hilario, Ross Turnbull, Ben Gordon, Nathaniel Chalobah, Jack Cork, Conor Clifford, Daniel Philliskirk, Michael Woods, Kaby Djalo, Milan Lalkovic, Scott Sinclair


Good to see young Irish lad Clifford in the squad. I think that Chalobah is only 16.

Chelsea won 1-0 with an Essien goal. For the record, young Chalobah played, and he is 15!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 19, 2010, 02:39:56 PM
Good luck JC.

Remember to leave all your medals in a safe. Europa league night is a dangerous one for Liverpool players.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on July 19, 2010, 02:55:42 PM
Disappointed to see J Cole go. :(  Best of luck.

This frees up the no 10 shirt for Chelsea......
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: 118cmal on July 19, 2010, 06:32:46 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on July 19, 2010, 02:55:42 PM
Disappointed to see J Cole go. :(  Best of luck.

This frees up the no 10 shirt for Chelsea......

Benayoun has it I think?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 24, 2010, 01:28:39 PM
Few problems starting to build. Chelsea were very poor in yesterday's pre seasaon game with Ajax. Admittedly it was essentially Chelsea reserves up against an Ajax team who are preparing for a CL qualifier next week.

Sturridge got a decent goal, but a shocking Turnball error, and a Brauma og signalled a bad day.

Also Cech, Alex, Bosingwa and Drogba are all set to miss the opening games and Ivanovic, Zhirkov and Benyaoun are all doubts at this stage. That and the lack of fitness for the World Cup contigent might give CA a headache ot two for the first week or two.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 28, 2010, 09:41:10 PM
Jeffrey Bruma has received his first call into the Netherlands senior national squad.

The 18-year-old defender is one of six new names selected by Dutch manager Bert van Marwijk who has not chosen any players he took to the World Cup in his 18-man party. He does not wish to place an unnecessary burden upon them.

The forthcoming game is a friendly away to Ukraine on 11 August.

Bruma made nine appearances for the Dutch Under 21 side last season
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 03, 2010, 04:21:31 PM
So. Anyone know anything about this Ramires chap?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Doogie Browser on August 03, 2010, 05:12:58 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 03, 2010, 04:21:31 PM
So. Anyone know anything about this Ramires chap?
Sounds a dodgy deal again, a bit like the Tevez/Mascherano transfers a few years back.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 04, 2010, 05:17:01 PM
Strong 11 for the double winners for today's game v Hamburg. 55K sell out for a friendly on a Wednesday afternoon. Good work German football!

Hilario

Cole
JT
Ivanovic
Ferreria

Mikel
Essien
Lamps

Kalou
Anelka
Maloooouudda
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 04, 2010, 05:34:55 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 03, 2010, 04:21:31 PM
So. Anyone know anything about this Ramires chap?

Didn't see any of his games in World Cup, bit of a risk.  Problems with work permit anyway??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 08, 2010, 09:09:03 AM
58 games, 6 high quality goal. Good bye Deco.

Fluminese awaits.

So that's Cole, Ballack, Belletti, Deco, and Stoch gone this season, and just Benyaoun and probably Ramieres in. A sign that Ancellotti is going to give Brauma, Hutchinson, Kakuta, Borini, Van Aarnholt etc a chance!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 08, 2010, 01:26:06 PM
Quote from: Boycey on August 08, 2010, 11:23:53 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 08, 2010, 09:09:03 AM
58 games, 6 high quality goal. Good bye Deco.

Fluminese awaits.

So that's Cole, Ballack, Belletti, Deco, and Stoch gone this season, and just Benyaoun and probably Ramieres in. A sign that Ancellotti is going to give Brauma, Hutchinson, Kakuta, Borini, Van Aarnholt etc a chance!

Sign of the times too, shedding those players probably saves them in the region of 300k a week in wages or about 15mil a year  :o.

Heres a link to a decent article by Gabriele Marcotti on why there is so little activity in transfer market
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/gabriele_marcotti/08/05/UEFA.Finances/index.html

Cheers Boycey. I'll read the Marcotti article later. He usually chats sense.

I'd say shifting those lads off the books may actually be in or around £400K a week. Scandalous when you think of that!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 08, 2010, 05:02:04 PM
Played somewhat better than we did in the other pre season games so quite content with the performance, although disapointed to lose. A week or two's more training will get that sharpness bak at both ends of the field.

The big worry would be Ashley Cole who had his worst game in a Blue shirt, and looked to have his mind on other things! Hopefully it's just a lack of sharpness at this stage of the season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 10, 2010, 10:35:15 PM
The legend that is Ricardo 'Percy' Carvalho is on his way to Real Madrid.

Not surprised at this deal to be honest as with JT, Alex and Ivanovic please Brauma and or Mancienne, he was falling down the order. A superb defender for Chelsea, and has cemented his place in the affections of the fans. Remember his goal v The Mancs as we secured that second league title, and his run was instrumental for Lampard to get that second goal v Bolton in 05.

In truth it's a fantastic bit of business by Chelsea. Apparently £6.8 million is the fee, and to get that for a 32year old 3rd choice is fantastic! That and the £90k a week off the budget.

Good luck Lord Percy/
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: new devil on August 10, 2010, 10:37:39 PM
Better than JT at the moment...hope it comes back to bite yous in the ass  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on August 10, 2010, 11:01:24 PM
Chelsea doing a good job of clearing out the dead wood Belletti,Ballack,Carvallho,Deco should give the younger players Kakuta,Sturridge,Hutchinson a chance to shine
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 11, 2010, 10:45:41 AM
Quote from: ross4life on August 10, 2010, 11:01:24 PM
Chelsea doing a good job of clearing out the dead wood Belletti,Ballack,Carvallho,Deco should give the younger players Kakuta,Sturridge,Hutchinson a chance to shine

Unusually I agree with you!
With Joe Cole, Stoch and Sinclair gone too it's quite a clear out. As you should allow the great white hopes an opportunity. However I'd expected 1 or 2 additions, with Rameries work permit appeal today I believe.

I see the sense/ value in all the players in the out folder bar Stoch.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on August 11, 2010, 03:13:02 PM
Don't underestimate how important of player Joe Cole was, even last season his goal in OT more or less won the league & at just 28 he still had a lot to give... will be interesting to see will his replacement Benayoun fill the void
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 11, 2010, 10:05:26 PM
Quote from: ross4life on August 11, 2010, 03:13:02 PM
Don't underestimate how important of player Joe Cole was, even last season his goal in OT more or less won the league & at just 28 he still had a lot to give... will be interesting to see will his replacement Benayoun fill the void

Ak. Sure you argue the importance of every player based on one moment.

I think Cole could do well at Liverpool, and I am sorry to see him go. I think he'll do better at Liverpool, being a slighlty bigger fish (No offence lads), and more regular games.

He had gone stale a wee bit at the Bridge. Good luck to him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 15, 2010, 02:02:35 AM
Does anyone have a link to an updated Premier League table? The ones that I usually check don't appear to have been updated since the end of the season past.

Thanks.

;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 15, 2010, 10:07:43 PM
Joe Cole seems to have lost his discipline since he left the calm atmosphere of the Bridge ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 15, 2010, 11:39:39 PM
Have to admit, just watched the the highlights on MOTD2.  If Joe Cole got a red for that, then I will not post about soccer again.  The game is now for girls.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2010, 12:41:50 AM
He got a red.

Don't post about soccer again please.

Or stop writing shit.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 16, 2010, 05:57:57 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 16, 2010, 12:41:50 AM
He got a red.

Don't post about soccer again please.

Or stop writing shit.

OK Mary.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 20, 2010, 02:00:54 AM
Gutted for the big fella. Looked an excellent prospect when he played.

http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2128249,00.html (http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2128249,00.html)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: supersarsfields on August 20, 2010, 01:36:07 PM
That must be heart wretching for the poor lad. Imagine, to get yourself to that level and think that you've made it, only for it to be snatched away from you.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on August 21, 2010, 05:53:55 PM
Was just about to type.. i bet chelsea will score with their 1st shot on target  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on August 21, 2010, 06:00:26 PM
Quote from: ross4life on August 21, 2010, 05:53:55 PM
Was just about to type.. i bet chelsea will score with their 1st shot on target  :o
What you don't know isn't worth knowing Ross.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on August 21, 2010, 06:16:00 PM
Wigan playing the Champions with a half empty stadium.. awful support
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on August 21, 2010, 06:29:53 PM
Another 6-0 on the cards?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Brick Tamlin on August 21, 2010, 06:33:55 PM
anywhere to watch this online??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on August 21, 2010, 06:38:32 PM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on August 21, 2010, 06:33:55 PM
anywhere to watch this online??

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=83719&part=sports
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on August 21, 2010, 07:11:08 PM
Quote from: ross4life on August 21, 2010, 06:29:53 PM
Another 6-0 on the cards?

8)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 07:13:32 PM
Stoke, West Ham and Blackpool up next for Chelsea. 50 goals after 5 games.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AFS on August 21, 2010, 07:21:56 PM
I hate Wigan. No defence, no balls, no support. Can't be relegated soon enough for me.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 21, 2010, 10:12:42 PM
Only seen the first hour, but we weren't even that good. Dangerous results so far as complacency will be our enemy!

You'd have got some price on 6-0 with Drogba nor Lampard bagging any!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: supersarsfields on August 21, 2010, 11:05:36 PM
Terry wasn't holding anything back anyway!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 22, 2010, 03:41:14 PM
Roberto Di Matteo.... Six.
Roberto Martinez.... Six.

Time to change the name Mancini.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 27, 2010, 10:40:48 PM
Dangerous game tomorrow if Chelsea's confidence starts to get carried away. Two decent performances against poor opposition can lead to complacency. Hopefully the experienced players keep this in mind.

In other news. Begovic the Stoke keeper will probably sign over the weekend for £4 million ish, which may signal Ross Turnball going on loan. Both Turnball and Hillario have had very poor pre seasons which kick started the hunt for a 2nd keeper.

Hopefully Ramieres will get some pitch time tomorrow to see what he can do. Also good to hear that Bosingwa is in full training again and could feature in the next week or two.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 01, 2010, 11:53:26 PM
Chelsea submit squad.

Keepers
1. Petr Cech
40. Henrique Hilario
22. Ross Turnbull

Defenders
2. Branislav Ivanovic
3. Ashley Cole
17. Jose Bosingwa
18. Yury Zhirkov
19. Paulo Ferreira
26. John Terry
33. Alex
38. Patrick van Aanholt
43. Jeffrey Bruma

Midfielders
5. Michael Essien
7. Ramires
8. Frank Lampard
10. Yossi Benayoun
12. John Mikel Obi
15. Florent Malouda
44. Gael Kakuta
46. Josh McEachran

Strikers
11. Didier Drogba
21. Salomon Kalou
39. Nicolas Anelka
23. Daniel Sturridge
45. Fabio Borini

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: gawa316 on September 02, 2010, 10:32:33 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on September 01, 2010, 11:53:26 PM
Chelsea submit squad.

Keepers
1. Petr Cech
40. Henrique Hilario
22. Ross Turnbull

Defenders
2. Branislav Ivanovic
3. Ashley Cole
17. Jose Bosingwa
18. Yury Zhirkov
19. Paulo Ferreira
26. John Terry
33. Alex
38. Patrick van Aanholt
43. Jeffrey Bruma

Midfielders
5. Michael Essien
7. Ramires
8. Frank Lampard
10. Yossi Benayoun
12. John Mikel Obi
15. Florent Malouda
44. Gael Kakuta
46. Josh McEachran

Strikers
11. Didier Drogba
21. Salomon Kalou
39. Nicolas Anelka
23. Daniel Sturridge
45. Fabio Borini

Surely a few of them are U21 so don't need to be in the 25?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 02, 2010, 07:52:07 PM
6 of those names weren't submitted, so it's a 19 man squad.

It was my tidy up that makes it look like above.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Aaron Boone on September 02, 2010, 08:39:48 PM
Any word on how long Lampard is out for?
Essien's the new potential main man directing things.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 11, 2010, 02:19:22 PM
The boss man rings the changes for the double winners.

Ivanovic at centre half instead of Alex, and Kalou starts instead of Malouda surprisingly. One eye on Europe already.

Ramires on for Lampard.

The big, good news is the elevation of Gael Kakuta to the squad proper as hinted by Ancellotti yesterday. The wee man on the bench.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 11, 2010, 02:52:10 PM
Does f**k all for my fantasy team. Drops Malouda and Alex out of nowhere. >:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 11, 2010, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 11, 2010, 02:52:10 PM
Does f**k all for my fantasy team. Drops Malouda and Alex out of nowhere. >:(


I know Malouda is on mine too as is Lampard!!

Ah well. Have you Essien per chance??

Gooooooooal!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: anportmorforjfc on September 11, 2010, 03:18:59 PM
What a goal  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 11, 2010, 03:19:42 PM
Goal.Of.The.Seaon!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on September 11, 2010, 03:20:11 PM
Howard has the game of his life & in the other game Green does that  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: anportmorforjfc on September 11, 2010, 03:21:32 PM
Quote from: ross4life on September 11, 2010, 03:20:11 PM
Howard has the game of his life & in the other game Green does that  ::)

This is Robert Green we are talking about!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 11, 2010, 04:51:14 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 11, 2010, 02:52:10 PM
Does f**k all for my fantasy team. Drops Malouda and Alex out of nowhere. >:(

FFS Malouda comes on with minutes to play to a 100000 groans form fanatsy football managers  >:(

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on September 11, 2010, 05:04:28 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 11, 2010, 04:51:14 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 11, 2010, 02:52:10 PM
Does f**k all for my fantasy team. Drops Malouda and Alex out of nowhere. >:(

FFS Malouda comes on with minutes to play to a 100000 groans form fanatsy football managers  >:(

You think that's bad? i had Essien in my team for the first 3 games then got rid of him because of his low point scoring  >:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: new devil on September 11, 2010, 05:08:45 PM
I have essien in mine  ;D....... >:( >:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 11, 2010, 05:09:21 PM
He's a fantastic player but his points in FF only come in clusters, whereas Lamps, Fabregas, Rooney etc are must haves..

Tough test for Chelsea next up against a top 4 contender for the 1st time...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 17, 2010, 10:41:23 AM
Another good week for the double winners, especially the young fellas.

> Daniel Sturridge gets a start and scores in the Champions league cruise v Zilina.
> A debut in senior football for Josh MacEacheran.
> Some more game time for Gael Kakuta and Patrick Van Aarnholt.
> Young Dub Conor Clifford gets a new professional contract.
> A young reserve side head to St James Park and overcome a Sol Campbell led Newcastle 3-2, Milan Lakovic with two.

Hopefully it continues tomorrow against Champions League chasing Blackpool!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 18, 2010, 09:25:46 AM
Just read that MacEacheran was the first player to make his debut in the CL that was not born while the European Cup existed!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on September 19, 2010, 04:14:08 PM
Another 6-0? it's something Chelsea have most these so called weaker teams beaten before a ball is kicked
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on September 22, 2010, 09:42:12 PM
Man United like defending from Chelsea tonight Norf eh?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: bcarrier on October 01, 2010, 09:49:15 PM
subord bondholders= drogba
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 04, 2010, 11:10:47 AM
A Chelsea v Arsenal movie...

;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5eqNp8eYp0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5eqNp8eYp0)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 04, 2010, 11:22:15 AM
http://img96.imageshack.us/f/suuuuuperalex.gif/ (ftp://http://img96.imageshack.us/f/suuuuuperalex.gif/)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Boycey on October 04, 2010, 12:15:50 PM
your Superalex thingie don't work...

Noticed a banner yesterday, "Born is the King" who does it relate to couldn't make if out, Peter Osgood??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 04, 2010, 03:44:50 PM
Quote from: Boycey on October 04, 2010, 12:15:50 PM
your Superalex thingie don't work...

Noticed a banner yesterday, "Born is the King" who does it relate to couldn't make if out, Peter Osgood??

Yip. It's dedicated to Peter Osgood who was the one and only King of the Shed. That banner has been there a long time, but coincidentally the club unveiled a statue to the great man yesterday. Now he was a gentleman.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Boycey on October 04, 2010, 04:20:52 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 04, 2010, 03:44:50 PM
Quote from: Boycey on October 04, 2010, 12:15:50 PM
your Superalex thingie don't work...

Noticed a banner yesterday, "Born is the King" who does it relate to couldn't make if out, Peter Osgood??

Yip. It's dedicated to Peter Osgood who was the one and only King of the Shed. That banner has been there a long time, but coincidentally the club unveiled a statue to the great man yesterday. Now he was a gentleman.

I never forgave him for being part of Southampton team that beat United in 76 cup final, I cried all evening.. I was only 7 mind.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 07, 2010, 04:30:44 PM
I see the NOTW and the Mail have now admitted the VP and JT business was 'untrue'. Ack sure only a few lives f**ked up along the way.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2010/oct/07/newsoftheworld-john-terry (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2010/oct/07/newsoftheworld-john-terry)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: muppet on October 07, 2010, 04:37:25 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 07, 2010, 04:30:44 PM
I see the NOTW and the Mail have now admitted the VP and JT business was 'untrue'. Ack sure only a few lives f**ked up along the way.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2010/oct/07/newsoftheworld-john-terry (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2010/oct/07/newsoftheworld-john-terry)

Bertie will feel right at home....except for the 'admitting' it bit.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 16, 2010, 07:47:47 AM
Big test today with Alex, Lampard, Drogba, Bosingwa, Kalou, Benayoun, and Sturridge all out.

The team picks itself more or less and Ancellotti as he has been doing has named it; Cech, Fererria, Terry, Ivanovic, Cole, Obi, Ramires, Essien, Malouda, Anelka and Kakuta.

The subs bench bar Zhirkov shall be mostly cubs today, Brauma, Van Aarnholt, MacEacheran etc.

The Young v Fererria dual will be one which could be dangerous for Chelsea today, especially on a ground where we've struggled over the last number of seasons.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: 118cmal on October 16, 2010, 11:28:58 AM
That's assuming they play Young left wing.  He has been playing in the hole behind the striker quite a bit this season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on October 16, 2010, 05:52:08 PM
Free-Scoring Chelsea drawing their first game this season I'm generally shocked!

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 19, 2010, 12:14:11 PM
A real stinker of a trip for Chelsea tonight, and the only bright spot is that it's on a Tuesday rather than a Wednesday.

With Lampard, Drogba, Bosingwa, Sturridge, Alex, Benayoun, nor Ramires all injured, and big doubts over Essien, A Cole and Terry it'll be a makeshift X1 that features tonight/ today.

The word is that Cole will not feature due to the type of injury and the artificial surface but Essien and Terry play,

Based on that it looks like;

Cech
Fererria
Terry
Ivanovic
Zhirkov

Mikel
Essien
MacEacheran

Kalou
Anelka
Malouda

Thankfully the two wins in the first two games takes the pressure largely off for this clash tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on October 19, 2010, 12:22:22 PM
I was gonna stick Chelsea in my bet tonight but with that absentee list I don't think I will bother.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 19, 2010, 04:47:27 PM
Cole starts allowing Zhirkov to go into the centre. Not too bad.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 19, 2010, 04:49:37 PM
Subs: 22 Ross Turnbull, 47 Billy Clifford, 43 Jeffrey Bruma, 38 Patrick van Aanholt, 46 Josh McEachran, 52 Jacob Mellis, 44 Gael Kakuta.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on October 19, 2010, 04:51:14 PM
Not a happy hunting ground for Terry,Anelka at least we won't see any tears from the big man tonight  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 19, 2010, 04:53:38 PM
Quote from: ross4life on October 19, 2010, 04:51:14 PM
Not a happy hunting ground for Terry,Anelka at least we won't see any tears from the big man tonight  ;)

Nope you'll see them all over on the United thread!   ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on October 19, 2010, 04:56:24 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 19, 2010, 04:53:38 PM
Quote from: ross4life on October 19, 2010, 04:51:14 PM
Not a happy hunting ground for Terry,Anelka at least we won't see any tears from the big man tonight  ;)

Nope you'll see them all over on the United thread!   ;D

Crying over a player that want's out v crying over that missed peno that cost ye the European cup

No contest   ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Square Ball on October 19, 2010, 06:05:17 PM
some goal from Zhirkov, was he in flash gordon?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on October 19, 2010, 06:23:21 PM
Two goals from two attempts on target that's an impressive strike rate
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Peter Solan the Great on October 19, 2010, 06:28:47 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dK39cyJVolw/SydWRGNrR8I/AAAAAAAAAWQ/DndGkY5uQ0s/s400/british_alliance_calling_card__linfield_rangers___chelsea_.jpg)

(http://nominated.homestead.com/files/1.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: paco on October 19, 2010, 07:22:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 19, 2010, 12:22:22 PM
I was gonna stick Chelsea in my bet tonight but with that absentee list I don't think I will bother.

I did. :)

Obviously karma will come back and make a **** out of me after this.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on October 19, 2010, 07:23:54 PM
Quote from: paco on October 19, 2010, 07:22:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 19, 2010, 12:22:22 PM
I was gonna stick Chelsea in my bet tonight but with that absentee list I don't think I will bother.

I did. :)

Obviously karma will come back and make a **** out of me after this.

I ended up putting them in, another three teams to go though.......
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on October 19, 2010, 07:24:47 PM
Quote from: paco on October 19, 2010, 07:22:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 19, 2010, 12:22:22 PM
I was gonna stick Chelsea in my bet tonight but with that absentee list I don't think I will bother.

I did. :)

Obviously karma will come back and make a **** out of me after this.

Who else did you bet?

Edit same question to you minder
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: paco on October 19, 2010, 07:28:13 PM
Another 5, got greedy :D

All home teams: Real Madrid, Arsenal, Roma, Marseille and Braga. Not overly confident about Braga, know very little about them or Partizan, but they haven't won a match yet and this is their best chance at home to weak opposition.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 19, 2010, 07:29:53 PM
Good to see another fan like myself on board. Good lad Peter.

Good performance, good result, and I had £3 on the Russian at 33-1!!! Lovely!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on October 19, 2010, 07:32:28 PM
I haven't placed a bet on a match since the Everton 3 Man United 3, That day i had 25 euro on Vidic to score & united to win was 16/1
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 05, 2010, 11:58:04 PM
Another very professional performance by The Blues on Wednesday evening with top spot all but secured after 4 games. Something which will give CA a great chance to rest players over the coming weeks, and help bed in the youngsters who have showed promise in recent weeks.

Back to Weds and in truth Chelsea were in 2nd gear. A great sign considering there were 5 or 6 of the usual X1 injured, rested or not risked. Of the team that started I think Zhirkov continues to look well, and CA appears to agree by stating that the Russian will keep his spot for Sunday's fixture. Wednesday night also saw decent 15-20 minute cameo appearances by McEacheran, Sturridge and Kakuta. The three lads starting to look like established squad players already and providing far better VFM than the Ballacks, Joe Coles etc of last year.

I see the boss man has named 9 of his starting 11 for Sunday in today's press conferance. None of this mind games s**te. Effectivelly he's saying 'here's my team, what are you going to do about it'.

Cech
Ivanovic
Terry
Alex
Ashley Cole
Mikel
Essien or Ramieres
Zhirkov
Malouda or Kalou
Drogba
Anelka

Listening to the radio on Wednesday (Not sure what station) and they were stating that Chelsea were going well, but the age of the team might catch up with them. Lazy journalism. Malouda, Ivanovic, Cech, Alex, Zhirkov, Essien etc are all at their peak or just reacjing it. Lampard, Terry, Drogba, Anelka still have plenty about them, and then there is the next batch coming through. But if it suits an agenda...

As an aside I see young Dub, Conor Clifford has started his loan spell very well at Plymouth. Hopefully he's not too far behind the 4 or 5 youngsters that have pushed their way into the squad this season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: EC Unique on November 11, 2010, 03:11:50 PM
Found this on page 4!

Anyway, word on the street is that Ray Wilkins has left the club, with immediate effect, over something that happened lastnight!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Doogie Browser on November 11, 2010, 03:28:33 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 11, 2010, 03:11:50 PM
Found this on page 4!

Anyway, word on the street is that Ray Wilkins has left the club, with immediate effect, over something that happened lastnight!
Wilkins is a nodding dog in the same vein as Sammy Lee, no big loss I would say.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 11, 2010, 03:47:36 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on November 11, 2010, 03:28:33 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 11, 2010, 03:11:50 PM
Found this on page 4!

Anyway, word on the street is that Ray Wilkins has left the club, with immediate effect, over something that happened lastnight!
Wilkins is a nodding dog in the same vein as Sammy Lee, no big loss I would say.

That's definately the image Wilkins gave, and on the surface it looks like Carlo has reached the point where is comfortable with the lingo, the culture of the league and the fabric of the club. He now wants to bring in his 'own men'. Maldini being talked about already.

However as EC states there is talk from some journalists on Twitter of an 'incident'. However I suspect that perhaps that's them fishing.

Surprised all the same and disapointed. He was part of the 'team' that under Hiddink turned the club around again, and also helped with Chelsea's 'image' issues.

Timing's strange too.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 11, 2010, 05:31:34 PM
Franco Zola signed, and sealed according to the forums.

Also young Josh McEacheran in the U21s. Good step up for the boy!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: orangeman on November 11, 2010, 08:54:00 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 11, 2010, 03:11:50 PM
Found this on page 4!

Anyway, word on the street is that Ray Wilkins has left the club, with immediate effect, over something that happened lastnight!
[/b]


Any news on what happened ?.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: EC Unique on November 12, 2010, 03:20:06 PM
QuoteChelsea midfielder Frank Lampard will be out for a further three weeks after suffering a new injury in training, manager Carlo Ancelotti said.

The 32-year-old was hoping to return to action against Sunderland this weekend after missing more than two months of the season with a hernia problem.

But he injured the abductor muscle in his leg in training on Thursday and will not now be fit until December.

Lampard's last appearance was in the 2-0 win over Stoke City on 28 August.

He had a hernia operation on 31 August and as well as missing Premier League and Champions League matches for Chelsea, he was also absent for England's Euro 2012 qualifying victories over Bulgaria and Switzerland and the 0-0 draw with Montenegro.

Chelsea will also be without Brazilian defender Alex for Sunday's match but Nicolas Anelka has recovered from a back injury.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 12, 2010, 04:20:08 PM
That Blakely wan is driving poor Frank into the ground!

Him and Essien missing for the next 3 weeks is a massive blow for Chelsea. Hopefully Ancellotti moves Malouda to midfield and Zhirkov to wide left which is better balanced than vice versa!

It's times like this Benayoun would've earned his corn!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Doogie Browser on November 12, 2010, 04:24:34 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 12, 2010, 04:20:08 PM
That Blakely wan is driving poor Frank into the ground!
Is it any wonder, sure she leaves her knickers lying all over the bedroom we are told, Franky boy is wrecked!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: anportmorforjfc on November 14, 2010, 04:53:03 PM
Sunderland all over chelsea! Ivanovic should have gone there ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: anportmorforjfc on November 14, 2010, 04:57:58 PM
sunderland lead 1-0. Fully deserved.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: under the bar on November 14, 2010, 05:16:06 PM
Sunderland should be 4-0 up and Chelsea down to 10 men.

we all know what's coming tho......... 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: anportmorforjfc on November 14, 2010, 05:21:36 PM
Quote from: under the bar on November 14, 2010, 05:16:06 PM
Sunderland should be 4-0 up and Chelsea down to 10 men.

we all know what's coming tho......... 

Another sunderland goal  ;D. 2-0
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: orangeman on November 14, 2010, 05:47:31 PM
It's making the league interesting now.

Hard to have seen this result coming all the same.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Bord na Mona man on November 14, 2010, 05:58:05 PM
3-0 now.  ;D
Brilliant assist from Cashley. I'd say Cheryl was loving that one.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: muppet on November 14, 2010, 06:01:50 PM
Bondski 0 IrishNation-derland 3
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Shrewdness on November 14, 2010, 06:39:35 PM
Absolutely phenomenal result......2 Prem defeats in last week, Ray Wilkins sent packing!!.....All mightn't be as well at Chelsea as a lot of people thought.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 14, 2010, 09:14:03 PM
Well I never seen that coming. The form might have been questionable for the last few weeks but still. I can't beleve Wagner's still there!

Anyhow. There was a match today and the best team won! Chelsea missed the spine of their team, Alex, Lampard, Essien, and Terry. Ultimately the unusual pairing of Ferreria and Ivanovic against a very postive Sunderland team were Chelsea's undoing.

When you consider that Cole, Malouda and Drogba are fair from fully fit well there you have it. Fair play to the Black Cats though. It's going to be a formless league this year!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on November 14, 2010, 09:19:36 PM
i don't understand that result wasn't that one of chelseas "easy" games?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 14, 2010, 09:22:04 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 14, 2010, 09:19:36 PM
i don't understand that result wasn't that one of chelseas "easy" games?

Who are you quoting there?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on November 14, 2010, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from you norf Sure you posted that on the united,arse threads awhile back btw a very enjoyable day in nyc today :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 14, 2010, 10:20:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 14, 2010, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from you norf Sure you posted that on the united,arse threads awhile back btw a very enjoyable day in nyc today :)

Did I? Send me the link to that please.

Time enough until you come back from NYC if you want, as I'd hate for you to waste time at one of the world's greatest citiies on an internet forum.....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Family guy on November 14, 2010, 10:35:55 PM
Didnt see that coming today
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 05:21:50 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 14, 2010, 10:20:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 14, 2010, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from you norf Sure you posted that on the united,arse threads awhile back btw a very enjoyable day in nyc today :)

Did I? Send me the link to that please.

Time enough until you come back from NYC if you want, as I'd hate for you to waste time at one of the world's greatest citiies on an internet forum.....

Someone somewhere rose you (not me) on the subject of chelseas early season fixtures & If i recall correctly you posted similar quotes on the United,Arse threads after the West brom results

As for wasting time online while in NYC well.. you may have noticed the mobile icon or the long delay in replying now.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 09:26:48 AM
Quote from: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 05:21:50 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 14, 2010, 10:20:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 14, 2010, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from you norf Sure you posted that on the united,arse threads awhile back btw a very enjoyable day in nyc today :)

Did I? Send me the link to that please.

Time enough until you come back from NYC if you want, as I'd hate for you to waste time at one of the world's greatest citiies on an internet forum.....

Someone somewhere rose you (not me) on the subject of chelseas early season fixtures & If i recall correctly you posted similar quotes on the United,Arse threads after the West brom results

As for wasting time online while in NYC well.. you may have noticed the mobile icon or the long delay in replying now.

I think you are getting things mixed up somewhere Ross. I never said anything about teams or Chelsea having 'easy' games. I may have referred to others claiming Chelsea had 'easy' games, but I wouldn't have the audacity to claim any game is 'easy'!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Doogie Browser on November 15, 2010, 09:52:58 AM
Had Gyan at 4/1 to score anytime yesterday so made a few quid back after my cheltenham losses at the weekend.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 11:42:45 AM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on November 15, 2010, 09:52:58 AM
Had Gyan at 4/1 to score anytime yesterday so made a few quid back after my cheltenham losses at the weekend.

Heard that last night. That cheered me up!  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 01:53:38 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 09:26:48 AM
Quote from: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 05:21:50 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 14, 2010, 10:20:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 14, 2010, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from you norf Sure you posted that on the united,arse threads awhile back btw a very enjoyable day in nyc today :)

Did I? Send me the link to that please.

Time enough until you come back from NYC if you want, as I'd hate for you to waste time at one of the world's greatest citiies on an internet forum.....

Someone somewhere rose you (not me) on the subject of chelseas early season fixtures & If i recall correctly you posted similar quotes on the United,Arse threads after the West brom results

As for wasting time online while in NYC well.. you may have noticed the mobile icon or the long delay in replying now.

I think you are getting things mixed up somewhere Ross. I never said anything about teams or Chelsea having 'easy' games. I may have referred to others claiming Chelsea had 'easy' games, but I wouldn't have the audacity to claim any game is 'easy'!

Nope i was just playing your trick, we both well know there no such thing as a easy game!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 02:08:41 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 01:53:38 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 09:26:48 AM
Quote from: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 05:21:50 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 14, 2010, 10:20:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 14, 2010, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from you norf Sure you posted that on the united,arse threads awhile back btw a very enjoyable day in nyc today :)

Did I? Send me the link to that please.

Time enough until you come back from NYC if you want, as I'd hate for you to waste time at one of the world's greatest citiies on an internet forum.....

Someone somewhere rose you (not me) on the subject of chelseas early season fixtures & If i recall correctly you posted similar quotes on the United,Arse threads after the West brom results

As for wasting time online while in NYC well.. you may have noticed the mobile icon or the long delay in replying now.

I think you are getting things mixed up somewhere Ross. I never said anything about teams or Chelsea having 'easy' games. I may have referred to others claiming Chelsea had 'easy' games, but I wouldn't have the audacity to claim any game is 'easy'!

Nope i was just playing your trick, we both well know there no such thing as a easy game!

I have no idea what you're talking about  ???

Can you please just go and enjoy your holiday and stop obsessing!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Doogie Browser on November 15, 2010, 02:22:59 PM
Was a bit crazy of the Sky reporter yesterday asking Ancelotti if the defeat was in anyway down to Ray Wilkin's dismissal!  He is a darling of Sky Sports I suppose but even I thought that was a silly question.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 03:13:59 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 02:08:41 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 01:53:38 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 09:26:48 AM
Quote from: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 05:21:50 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 14, 2010, 10:20:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 14, 2010, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from you norf Sure you posted that on the united,arse threads awhile back btw a very enjoyable day in nyc today :)

Did I? Send me the link to that please.

Time enough until you come back from NYC if you want, as I'd hate for you to waste time at one of the world's greatest citiies on an internet forum.....

Someone somewhere rose you (not me) on the subject of chelseas early season fixtures & If i recall correctly you posted similar quotes on the United,Arse threads after the West brom results

As for wasting time online while in NYC well.. you may have noticed the mobile icon or the long delay in replying now.

I think you are getting things mixed up somewhere Ross. I never said anything about teams or Chelsea having 'easy' games. I may have referred to others claiming Chelsea had 'easy' games, but I wouldn't have the audacity to claim any game is 'easy'!

Nope i was just playing your trick, we both well know there no such thing as a easy game!

I have no idea what you're talking about  ???

Can you please just go and enjoy your holiday and stop obsessing!!

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 16, 2010, 04:53:47 PM
This makes no sense.

That was another one of these 'easy games' that Chelsea seemingly had!

Understand  ???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 03:36:40 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 03:13:59 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 02:08:41 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 01:53:38 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 09:26:48 AM
Quote from: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 05:21:50 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 14, 2010, 10:20:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 14, 2010, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from you norf Sure you posted that on the united,arse threads awhile back btw a very enjoyable day in nyc today :)

Did I? Send me the link to that please.

Time enough until you come back from NYC if you want, as I'd hate for you to waste time at one of the world's greatest citiies on an internet forum.....

Someone somewhere rose you (not me) on the subject of chelseas early season fixtures & If i recall correctly you posted similar quotes on the United,Arse threads after the West brom results

As for wasting time online while in NYC well.. you may have noticed the mobile icon or the long delay in replying now.

I think you are getting things mixed up somewhere Ross. I never said anything about teams or Chelsea having 'easy' games. I may have referred to others claiming Chelsea had 'easy' games, but I wouldn't have the audacity to claim any game is 'easy'!

Nope i was just playing your trick, we both well know there no such thing as a easy game!

I have no idea what you're talking about  ???

Can you please just go and enjoy your holiday and stop obsessing!!

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 16, 2010, 04:53:47 PM
This makes no sense.

That was another one of these 'easy games' that Chelsea seemingly had!

Understand  ???

Nope. Do you see the wee quotation symbols. They are like wee commas but they are floating. That means that I was quoting someone else. It doesn't mean I said it was 'easy'.

Understand now?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 15, 2010, 03:42:25 PM
In New York on holiday and wasting time on an internet forum  :D :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AZOffaly on November 15, 2010, 03:48:41 PM
And spectacularly missing the point as well.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 04:47:48 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 15, 2010, 03:48:41 PM
And spectacularly missing the point as well.

Sometimes I think he's having one great, big laugh at all of us. I really do.  :-[
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on November 15, 2010, 04:49:23 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 04:47:48 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 15, 2010, 03:48:41 PM
And spectacularly missing the point as well.

Sometimes I think he's having one great, big laugh at all of us. I really do.  :-[

I have thought that for a while, no way he is for real.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 15, 2010, 05:37:03 PM
Without doubt he is the best troll on the board.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Real Laoislad on November 15, 2010, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on November 15, 2010, 03:42:25 PM
In New York on holiday and wasting time on an internet forum  :D :D

Is he even in New York? I have my doubts.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 08:41:34 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 03:36:40 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 03:13:59 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 02:08:41 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 01:53:38 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 09:26:48 AM
Quote from: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 05:21:50 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 14, 2010, 10:20:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 14, 2010, 09:30:12 PM












Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 16, 2010, 04:53:47 PM




Nope. Do you see the wee quotation symbols. They are like wee commas but they are floating. That means that I was quoting someone else. It doesn't mean I said it was 'easy'.

Understand now?

You have to taking the piss Norf?

After west brom got a draw in OT you said "That was another one of these 'easy games' that Chelsea seemingly had!"

& i merely reserved your quote by saying after the Sunderland defeat yesterday "i don't understand that result wasn't that one of chelseas easy games"

Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 15, 2010, 05:37:03 PM
Without doubt he is the best troll on the board.

Well you clearly don't understand the definition of the word if you think i am? try peter the great or tony

Quote from: The Real Laoislad on November 15, 2010, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on November 15, 2010, 03:42:25 PM
In New York on holiday and wasting time on an internet forum  :D :D

Is he even in New York? I have my doubts.

My business is done In NYC holiday begins now in the sunshine state  8)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 09:18:05 PM
It would easier for me to admit your right Ross. I am lying and back tracking. You win. :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 09:28:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 09:18:05 PM
It would easier for me to admit your right Ross. I am lying and back tracking. You win. :-\

Win/lying? i was just trying to clear up the confusion & if I'm trolling then i'm awful at it

29°C/84°F here now time to hit the beach  :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Puckoon on November 15, 2010, 09:40:59 PM
(http://www.randomfatkids.com/fat-feature-nov.jpg)

Nice to see you remembered your camera. :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 09:46:00 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 09:28:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 09:18:05 PM
It would easier for me to admit your right Ross. I am lying and back tracking. You win. :-\

Win/lying? i was just trying to clear up the confusion & if I'm trolling then i'm awful at it

29°C/84°F here now time to hit the beach  :)

Are you on holidays on your own?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on November 15, 2010, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 09:46:00 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 09:28:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 09:18:05 PM
It would easier for me to admit your right Ross. I am lying and back tracking. You win. :-\

Win/lying? i was just trying to clear up the confusion & if I'm trolling then i'm awful at it

29°C/84°F here now time to hit the beach  :)

Are you on holidays on your own?

Are there not rules and restrictions about U-18's flying alone?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 15, 2010, 09:59:04 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 09:28:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 09:18:05 PM
It would easier for me to admit your right Ross. I am lying and back tracking. You win. :-\

Win/lying? i was just trying to clear up the confusion & if I'm trolling then i'm awful at it

29°C/84°F here now time to hit the beach  :)

http://www.wunderground.com/US/FL/

I calls shenanigans  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: sammymaguire on November 15, 2010, 10:07:57 PM
It's a good oul story Ross, fair play to ya. My sis is in Fort Myers, said she was having a ball
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 16, 2010, 10:52:12 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on November 15, 2010, 09:59:04 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 09:28:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 09:18:05 PM
It would easier for me to admit your right Ross. I am lying and back tracking. You win. :-\

Win/lying? i was just trying to clear up the confusion & if I'm trolling then i'm awful at it

29°C/84°F here now time to hit the beach  :)

http://www.wunderground.com/US/FL/

I calls shenanigans  ;)

Very good.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Doogie Browser on November 16, 2010, 11:00:03 AM
I see Terry's nerves are shot after all that shagging and hiding from husbands.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ballinaman on November 16, 2010, 11:30:55 AM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on November 16, 2010, 11:00:03 AM
I see Terry's nerves are shot after all that shagging and hiding from husbands.
Sell sell sell on fantasy football!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 16, 2010, 01:43:10 PM
Should this be a concern. Listening to people on here it's no big deal as it was Gallas who held Chelsea's defence and then Carvalho and now Alex is the main man.

However in the real world, Terry's absence is a massive blow, coupled with Lampard's ongoing problems, Essien's suspension and the possible long term absence of Alex as well!

So it's Brauma and Ivanovic at the back with a midfield in front of that who are not quite as strong as the norm.

United and Arsenal's to lose.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on November 16, 2010, 04:48:38 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 16, 2010, 10:52:12 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on November 15, 2010, 09:59:04 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 09:28:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 09:18:05 PM
It would easier for me to admit your right Ross. I am lying and back tracking. You win. :-\

Win/lying? i was just trying to clear up the confusion & if I'm trolling then i'm awful at it

29°C/84°F here now time to hit the beach  :)

http://www.wunderground.com/US/FL/

I calls shenanigans  ;)

Very good.  ;D

Try clicking that link in the next 2/3 hours or so then you might not get the morning or evening temperatures  ;)

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 09:46:00 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 15, 2010, 09:28:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 15, 2010, 09:18:05 PM
It would easier for me to admit your right Ross. I am lying and back tracking. You win. :-\

Win/lying? i was just trying to clear up the confusion & if I'm trolling then i'm awful at it

29°C/84°F here now time to hit the beach  :)

Are you on holidays on your own?
no.. though you can join me if ya want i'm sure the chelsea/man united debates would be endless  :P

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 16, 2010, 01:43:10 PM

United and Arsenal's to lose.  ;)

IMO If Arsenal finish 10 pts behind Chelsea they will be doing well
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 16, 2010, 07:08:24 PM
Confirmed: Alex out for 8 weeks. Terry's injury not assessed yet, but 'likely' to be longish term.

:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: EC Unique on November 17, 2010, 11:49:38 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 16, 2010, 07:08:24 PM
Confirmed: Alex out for 8 weeks. Terry's injury not assessed yet, but 'likely' to be longish term.

:(

Utd's title to loose ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 18, 2010, 06:55:08 PM
Hopefully this isn't a 'Grant' moment!


Chelsea have promoted Michael Emenalo from his position as chief scout to assistant first team coach.

Emenalo, who has been with the Blues since October 2007, succeeds Ray Wilkins in the role and Chelsea say the move is "recognition of his efforts".

The 45-year-old represented Nigeria at the 1994 World Cup and won 14 caps.

Emenalo, who briefly played for Notts County in the mid-1990s, will continue to scout for the first team while he updates his coaching qualifications.

The Nigerian's playing career also took him to the United States, Spain, Germany and Israel.
   
606: DEBATE
To replace Wilkins with this guy still feels like the wrong decision! I hope I am wrong!

A biggish club within the M25

Assistant first-team coach Paul Clement, who was alongside boss Carlo Ancelotti in the dug-out at Stamford Bridge for the defeat against Sunderland on Sunday, was expected to step up to fill the role.

Former AC Milan defender Paolo Maldini, had also been linked with the job, as had Mauro Tassotti and Alessandro Costacurta who worked under Chelsea boss Carlo Ancelotti at Milan.

Ex-Chelsea first-team coach Steve Clarke and former West Ham manager Gianfranco Zola, who was a fans' favourite during his time as a player at Stamford Bridge, were also thought to be in the running.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 19, 2010, 11:18:49 AM
Excellent John Terry interview.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1330989/John-Terry-lifts-lid-stripped-captaincy-World-Cup-flop--EXCLUSIVE.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1330989/John-Terry-lifts-lid-stripped-captaincy-World-Cup-flop--EXCLUSIVE.html)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 19, 2010, 01:36:26 PM
Very interesting press conferance from CA just on.

* Zhirkov injured and misses tomorrow.
* The weird one. Alex is fit!! This is strange as it's only days after Chelsea officially said he was out for 4-8 weeks. Weirdly he was on the bench for Brazil on Weds night!
* CA also stated it was not his decision to promote Emanalo, and he won't be changing his current role as fair as he was concerned! This resonates big style as essentially the board have made a footballing decision that he does not agree with, and won't adhere to. This is José esque and we all know how that ended!! Messy.

Tomorrow's team named.
Cech
Cole
Alex
Ivan
Bosingwa or Ferreria
Mikel
Ramieres
Malouda
Kalou
Drogs
Anelka.

Stronger than hoped I suppose.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on November 19, 2010, 09:36:37 PM
FFS i just sold Alex on my fantasy football team, is Drogba 100% fit yet?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 19, 2010, 11:08:41 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 19, 2010, 09:36:37 PM
FFS i just sold Alex on my fantasy football team, is Drogba 100% fit yet?

According to CA today Drogba is much better. I'd say Alex will have his operation sooner rather tha later.

It'll be a wee jag until Terry is fit me thinks.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ONeill on November 19, 2010, 11:24:41 PM
Some shower of hoors on that team.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on November 20, 2010, 05:08:51 PM
Chelsea had over 30 shots on goal today good game by Foster or poor finishing by the blues?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 20, 2010, 05:24:44 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 20, 2010, 05:08:51 PM
Chelsea had over 30 shots on goal today good game by Foster or poor finishing by the blues?

Was at our U21 final today, but I heard Foster played well.

30 shots? Holy f**k. Must've been some bad finishing too. I'll bet Kalou had a few of them!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: muppet on November 21, 2010, 10:00:09 PM
Chelsea denying rumours of Ancelotti quitting on twitter!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AZOffaly on November 22, 2010, 09:47:28 AM
I didn't know he worked for Twitter?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 22, 2010, 10:30:59 AM
The theory goes (And it's a good'un).

Aarnesan is telling RA that Ancellotti should be playing more kids. Apparently RA is dreaming of a Chelsea team a la Barcé which comprises mostly of youth products.

Football meeting two weeks ago and the topic comes up. CA and Wilkens state that the young lads are not ready.

A debate ensues, and RW tells RA and Aarnsean that 'you would know this if you've ever played football'.

RW is sacked.

CA is not happy.

CA has fed a few tit bits to his friends in the Italian press, to encourage RA to sack him or back him.

Chelsea- European champions at imploding.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Joxer on November 22, 2010, 10:35:19 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 20, 2010, 05:24:44 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 20, 2010, 05:08:51 PM
Chelsea had over 30 shots on goal today good game by Foster or poor finishing by the blues?

Was at our U21 final today, but I heard Foster played well.

30 shots? Holy f**k. Must've been some bad finishing too. I'll bet Kalou had a few of them!

Must have been about that because he got me 11 points on FF.

Chelsea are throwing it away but I think they will ride the storm.  They need two centre backs in the window and I doubt if Man City will let them get them on the cheap.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: DuffleKing on November 22, 2010, 12:07:24 PM

Why was Ray Wilkins booted?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: thewobbler on November 22, 2010, 12:14:04 PM
I've heard that Ray Wilkins was asked to take a special interest in helping smooth things over after John Terry's extra-marital shenanigans, basically being the "club rep" for Toni Terry, helping her through the tough times, keeping her onside, that sort of stuff.

But then they got a little too close. And then some.

JT is unsurprisingly a tad upset about all this, and his response was to issue an "either Wilkins goes or I go" ultimatum to Abramovich.

So Wilkins is gone.



Even if it's not true, it's a great story.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on November 26, 2010, 02:28:56 PM
On SSN that John Terry is expected back next weekend, Chelsea must have good physiotherapy or was the long-term injury a load of horse shite?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 28, 2010, 09:34:29 AM
Quote from: ross4life on November 26, 2010, 02:28:56 PM
On SSN that John Terry is expected back next weekend, Chelsea must have good physiotherapy or was the long-term injury a load of horse shite?

Think it might've been the same boy that said Rooney had a sore ankle.

Are you from up North with that typing accent? ''that John Terry".
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on November 28, 2010, 04:03:35 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 28, 2010, 09:34:29 AM
Quote from: ross4life on November 26, 2010, 02:28:56 PM
On SSN that John Terry is expected back next weekend, Chelsea must have good physiotherapy or was the long-term injury a load of horse shite?

Think it might've been the same boy that said Rooney had a sore ankle.

Are you from up North with that typing accent? ''that John Terry".

Oh I'... sure i picked up da auld accent from me Doneee gal & deree relations.. anyhow happy enough with the weeeee point toda?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 30, 2010, 08:36:13 PM
Never got a chance to comment on Sunday's draw. In truth struggling to know what to make it of it as it certainly was a mixed performance.

Part of me looks at the players that were missing, Lampard, Terry, Essien, Benyaoun and Zhirkov coupled with the half fit Malouda, Drogba, and Alex and think of it as a decentish performance that with a bit of luck could've yielded 3 points.

However I also note that Newcastle were missing a few (Nolan, the centre halfs, Barton) and that the Chelsea performace was sloppy in parts, Mikel, Anelka and Alex especially iffy.

What we do notice more and more is how important Terry and Lampard are to Chelsea, more so than Essien IMHO. When you've a team showing ropey form sometimes it's leaders you need and those two supply that in abundence. JT back for Saturday with a bit of luck.

I notice that the media didn't spend much time dwelling on the ill luck Chelsea had on Sunday. A half shout for a Kalou penalty, and a very likely Cole penalty. Add that to the goal that Drogba had wrongly disallowed and there was definately a real lack of luck. However all that doesn't suit the 'Chelsea in crisis' agenda.

Off the field there is definately a rumpus going on. Wilkens has gone and now Aarnesan as well. Can't understand how all this political shenanigans has come along off the back of the double and an excellent start to this year's campaign. That's football I suppose!

Everton (H), Spurs (A) next up... Should be fun!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Zapatista on December 03, 2010, 02:00:08 PM
I'd appreciate some help as this is all new to me-

looking to head to a game with friend of mine and his 9 year old daughter. I want to take them to see Chelsea at home to Ipswich in the FA Cup 8th or 9th January. Is there anyone who would have the know how to get tickets... can't imagine home fans are going crazy to get to this one.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on December 03, 2010, 02:15:31 PM
As Norf Tyrone is the custodian of this thread I am sure he will give you a shout when he sees your post.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 03, 2010, 09:32:25 PM
Sent you a PM there Zap.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on December 04, 2010, 05:07:11 PM
Well deserved point for Everton today! Baines MOTM.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Worker on December 04, 2010, 05:08:59 PM
What has happened the chelsea steam roller?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: muppet on December 04, 2010, 10:35:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 04, 2010, 10:32:04 PM
Just saw the penalty decision there. That's harsh as fcuk. MOTD commentator was wondering why Howard didn't walk.

Anelka (I think) just ran straight into him. Howard just stood there.

Anelka knocked the ball right and then ran straight into Howard. Not much of a penalty but they are usually given, especially to a top 4 team playing at home.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on December 04, 2010, 10:38:59 PM
The Phil Neville pass to Anelka was almost as good as the Steven Gerrard one last season.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: muppet on December 04, 2010, 10:55:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 04, 2010, 10:42:19 PM
Howard wasn't even looking at him. He turned to look at where the ball was going and got blattered by Anelka who made no attempt to go by him.

Pathetic decision.

I like it. Did Drogba sepp up to take the peno?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 04, 2010, 11:18:40 PM
Shocking display by Chelsea today. Absoloutely shocking.

The last few weeks I was not overly worried, as with the injuries to the spine of the side, and a few players not fully fit I thought get one or two back, regroup and kick on again. No excuses today, and that's a worry. It's not a major concern when a side plays bad. However when a side plays bad, look disinterested, pass as poorly as Chelsea did and avoid rolling up the sleeves when they have their backs to the wall it's time to question what's going on? Unfortunately I don't have the answer.

Individually- the positives first- only John Terry and Ivanovic can hold their heads up after that. Terry especially tried everything to get the rest of them going, and at times the two boys were met by a barrage of Everton balls into the box which happened due to the absence of Chelsea's middle five today. Baines especially was allowed time and time again to amble forward and pick his cross.

Shockers- Anelka, Mikel, Bosingwa, Kalou and Essien. Dan Sturridge may retire now if Kalou, in current form, can play 90 minutes in front of him. Here is one that may surprise non Chelsea fans. Every time I read on here, and talk to people about Chelsea, injuries etc they point out how much Chelsea miss Essien.

There is no doubt Essien is a quality player, but to date this season he's offered nothing, and today he was worse than that. I appreciate that he was injured/ suspended but he is a long way off what he needs to be offering to class himself in the class that some rate him as. Considering the amount of football he missed last year, this year, and the off the field party boy rumours, it's time he knuckled down again.

The gaffer got a lot of things wrong today too. When Everton were coming back into the game in the 2nd half the subs were very negative, Paulo for Bosingwa and Ramieres for Anelka. It just invited pressure onto the side. As said previously a young, hungry, fit and speedy Sturridge for Kalou would've drove Everton backwards again and given Baines more to worry him.

A big few weeks coming up. Spurs, United and Arsenal among the games. Nine points the aim!  :o

I never watched MOTD tonight, but for all you stating it wasn't a penalty (I am still undecided) did they show Coleman's foul on Ashley Cole in the box? That was a more clear cut one IMHO.

Marseille and the kids next up....

Frank Lampard... Get well soon and SOS!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: new devil on December 05, 2010, 01:05:30 AM
Very fair NT...3 weeks a go i thought Chelsea would walk the league...having seen a team implode as bad in a few weeks like this before
Do you think its anything to do with Ray Wilikins getting the boot?

P.s f**kers let me down for $1300  :'(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on December 08, 2010, 07:06:09 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 04, 2010, 11:18:40 PM
Marseille and the kids next up....

Cech,Drogba,Terry,Ferreira,Bosingwa, Ivanovic, Essien, Malouda, Kalou very impressive group of kids there Norf.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 08, 2010, 07:18:09 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 08, 2010, 07:06:09 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 04, 2010, 11:18:40 PM
Marseille and the kids next up....

Cech,Drogba,Terry,Ferreira,Bosingwa, Ivanovic, Essien, Malouda, Kalou very impressive group of kids there Norf.

Thanks ross. I am delighted to see the sporting integrity of the competition is maintained by Ancellotti and Chelsea. No half baked outfits to fleece the hard work Marseilleise and Chelsea away support of their money. UEFA must now look at Chelsea as ambassadors for this competition as once again we uphold the corinthian spirit.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on December 08, 2010, 07:22:29 PM
 :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ExiledGael on December 08, 2010, 09:39:19 PM
Another defeat, should have played the kids. All is definitely not well with Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 09, 2010, 12:20:59 AM
Quote from: ExiledGael on December 08, 2010, 09:39:19 PM
Another defeat, should have played the kids. All is definitely not well with Chelsea.

Er. He did. Brauma, Sturridge, MacEacheran and Van Aarnholt all on at the end and I think when the goal was scored.

Another so so performance tonight, with the lowlight again the midfield. Essien again was AWOL, Kalou was Kalou and Ramieres continues to struggle. The highlight once again was Josh MacEacheran. Ancellotti in his wisdom played his as the deep midfielder in the first half where he was under a bit of pressure and give one or two away. In the second half though his passing and vision were so much more obvious and dangerous. I'd love to see him keep his place.

As a team goes through a crisis of confidence, luck seems to avade them, and tonight was no different.

Malouda and Kalou both clearly brought down tonight and confirmed so by the after match analysis. However Drogba was also clipped in the box and elected to stay on his feet for a change and lost the chance. Three penalties turned down by a guy officiating his first ever CL game. Typical. Even the Marseille goal had a hint of luck with the ball taking a big deflection. That's the life at the minute.

The big problem for Chelsea this weekend will be that Ferreria will be RB against Bale after Bosingwa's injury tonight. Last year Bale roasted him.

If Lampard is fit- and I pray he is- I'd love to see Essien at RB with a middle three of Lampard, MacEacheran and Mikel with a forward three of Malouda, Drogba and Sturridge.

It'll not happen though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ExiledGael on December 09, 2010, 05:09:25 PM
You're right about when the goal was scored in the last ten minutes but they started out with
Cech, Bosingwa, Ivanovic, Terry, Ferreira, McEachran, Essien, Ramires, Kalou, Drogba and Malouda
and still played poorly. Agree on the penalties though, the game could easily have had a very different look. Their luck has certainly nosedived but it's here you learn a bit about cartain players and about how crucial Lampard is to the midfield.
Still think the team that finishes above Chelsea will win the league.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 09, 2010, 09:43:16 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on December 09, 2010, 05:09:25 PM
You're right about when the goal was scored in the last ten minutes but they started out with
Cech, Bosingwa, Ivanovic, Terry, Ferreira, McEachran, Essien, Ramires, Kalou, Drogba and Malouda
and still played poorly. Agree on the penalties though, the game could easily have had a very different look. Their luck has certainly nosedived but it's here you learn a bit about cartain players and about how crucial Lampard is to the midfield.
Still think the team that finishes above Chelsea will win the league.

I know. It was a bit pedantic of me.

Your part about learning about certain players is very appropriate. People like Essien, Drogba, Malouda etc have not stood up to the task in the form you'd expect. Granted they have injuries, lack of form etc but still.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: nrico2006 on December 10, 2010, 07:54:07 AM
Quote from: ExiledGael on December 09, 2010, 05:09:25 PM
You're right about when the goal was scored in the last ten minutes but they started out with
Cech, Bosingwa, Ivanovic, Terry, Ferreira, McEachran, Essien, Ramires, Kalou, Drogba and Malouda
and still played poorly. Agree on the penalties though, the game could easily have had a very different look. Their luck has certainly nosedived but it's here you learn a bit about cartain players and about how crucial Lampard is to the midfield.
Still think the team that finishes above Chelsea will win the league.

What if more than one team finishes above them?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: under the bar on December 10, 2010, 10:00:43 AM
Speaking of kids, who was the last Chelsea first-team regular to have come up through the youth system?

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: nrico2006 on December 10, 2010, 10:24:32 AM
Quote from: under the bar on December 10, 2010, 10:00:43 AM
Speaking of kids, who was the last Chelsea first-team regular to have come up through the youth system?

Probably Terry.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on December 10, 2010, 05:43:18 PM
I suppose Norf will name McEachran but at just 17 who knows can he make it at Chelsea? I expect Chelsea to go on a spending spree for experienced players in Jan to replace the departed Deco,Ballack,Cole & Belletti
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 10, 2010, 09:11:51 PM
Granted. Very few have come through and been regulars, but some have yielded decent returns in terms of finance, Sinclair, Stoch, Carlton Cole, Huth etc.

However Chelsea's planned strategy re youth players has been mentioned numerous times on here before if you want to read back. The strategy has probably not worked as quickly as planned, but there are some modest signs of working at this stage at least.

Quote from: ross4life on December 10, 2010, 05:43:18 PM
I suppose Norf will name McEachran but at just 17 who knows can he make it at Chelsea? I expect Chelsea to go on a spending spree for experienced players in Jan to replace the departed Deco,Ballack,Cole & Belletti

Chelsea have not gone on a spending spree for 4 or 5 years bar back a season or two ago when net spend was circa £30 million and with UEFA's self sufficency metric in place, and Chelsea's own self sufficent drive, I'd be very surprised if that happens. Remember Chelsea signed Ramires and Benayoun to replace two of the four above, and the stategy is/ was to promote MacEacheran, Van Aarnholt, Kakuta, Brauma and Borini (He will now leave) to supplement the rest.

There is a difficulty in bringing young players through at Chelsea though as there are very few games where-by a manager can blood a youngster as every game is a 'must win' as per the media. Look at Liverpool, and show me the 'quality' youngsters that they are bringing through. Even at United, bar possibly the twins, the remainder look average squad players at best IMHO. Even some of that heralded youth at United have been bought for big money, Smalling, Beba, Obertan for example.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on December 10, 2010, 10:17:43 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 10, 2010, 09:11:51 PM

Quote from: ross4life on December 10, 2010, 05:43:18 PM
I suppose Norf will name McEachran but at just 17 who knows can he make it at Chelsea? I expect Chelsea to go on a spending spree for experienced players in Jan to replace the departed Deco,Ballack,Cole & Belletti

Chelsea have not gone on a spending spree for 4 or 5 years bar back a season or two ago when net spend was circa £30 million and with UEFA's self sufficency metric in place, and Chelsea's own self sufficent drive, I'd be very surprised if that happens. Remember Chelsea signed Ramires and Benayoun to replace two of the four above, and the stategy is/ was to promote MacEacheran, Van Aarnholt, Kakuta, Brauma and Borini (He will now leave) to supplement the rest.

There is a difficulty in bringing young players through at Chelsea though as there are very few games where-by a manager can blood a youngster as every game is a 'must win' as per the media. Look at Liverpool, and show me the 'quality' youngsters that they are bringing through. Even at United, bar possibly the twins, the remainder look average squad players at best IMHO. Even some of that heralded youth at United have been bought for big money, Smalling, Beba, Obertan for example.

Chelsea lack of spending sprees of late might have something to do with three league titles won among others & maybe it would have been better to have signed two/three bargain buys instead of the large fee they paid for Ramires?

I hope screenexile doesn't see your comment on the twins! he doesn't believe in youth development unless they are born in the place they play for.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 10, 2010, 10:22:56 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 10, 2010, 10:17:43 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 10, 2010, 09:11:51 PM

Quote from: ross4life on December 10, 2010, 05:43:18 PM
I suppose Norf will name McEachran but at just 17 who knows can he make it at Chelsea? I expect Chelsea to go on a spending spree for experienced players in Jan to replace the departed Deco,Ballack,Cole & Belletti

Chelsea have not gone on a spending spree for 4 or 5 years bar back a season or two ago when net spend was circa £30 million and with UEFA's self sufficency metric in place, and Chelsea's own self sufficent drive, I'd be very surprised if that happens. Remember Chelsea signed Ramires and Benayoun to replace two of the four above, and the stategy is/ was to promote MacEacheran, Van Aarnholt, Kakuta, Brauma and Borini (He will now leave) to supplement the rest.

There is a difficulty in bringing young players through at Chelsea though as there are very few games where-by a manager can blood a youngster as every game is a 'must win' as per the media. Look at Liverpool, and show me the 'quality' youngsters that they are bringing through. Even at United, bar possibly the twins, the remainder look average squad players at best IMHO. Even some of that heralded youth at United have been bought for big money, Smalling, Beba, Obertan for example.

Chelsea lack of spending sprees of late might have something to do with three league titles won among others & maybe it would have been better to have signed two/three bargain buys instead of the large fee they paid for Ramires?

I hope screenexile doesn't see your comment on the twins! he doesn't believe in youth development unless they are born in the place they play for.

Probably a fair point re Ramieres, although hopefully time will help him settle. I think the theory probably was that two or three squad players would stiffle the 'youth' coming through.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 21, 2010, 05:18:24 PM
Good stuff. Rumours of a new deal for Ivan as well!


NEW DEAL FOR KAKUTA
Posted on: Tue 21 Dec 2010
Chelsea Football Club is pleased to announce that Gael Kakuta has signed a new four-and-a-half-year contract.

The 19-year-old originally joined the club in July 2007 and made his first-team debut in November 2009. This season he has made four starts and five substitute appearances taking his overall tally to five starts plus eight games as a sub.

Having committed himself to the club until 2015, Kakuta spoke to the Official Chelsea Website about his delight at the new deal and his immediate targets.

'Since I signed for Chelsea when I was 16 all I was thinking about was to get to the first team. Now I have been playing a few times with the first team and I have signed for four-and-a-half more years I have to make a way for myself into the starting 11, and make my dream come true.

'The manager said to me it is the right time to play and I think for me it is as well. It's my job to do my best and try to play more often and show the coach that I am good enough to play in the team.'

Kakuta has progressed into the France Under 20 squad this season having won the European Under 19s Championships with his nation in the summer. He was named Uefa's Golden Player for the tournament.

At Chelsea this season Carlo Ancelotti has deployed him as a wide man in the front three and used him in five out of six Champions League group games, starting him in two including the home game against group runners-up Marseille.

'It is a dream when you are young to play in the Champions League and I hope I will play more games.

'It is always good to play with players with more experience, you learn quicker and to improve quicker is good for our development.'
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ExiledGael on December 21, 2010, 05:30:27 PM
Heard recently that only once this season have Chelsea started a player under 23 years old in the league, Kakuta.
You're right about the United fringe players. Rafael is starting to really impress but the rest have a long long way to go. This time last year though you would have said the same of Evans and look at him now, woeful.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on December 21, 2010, 07:42:51 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on December 21, 2010, 05:30:27 PM
Heard recently that only once this season have Chelsea started a player under 23 years old in the league, Kakuta.
You're right about the United fringe players. Rafael is starting to really impress but the rest have a long long way to go. This time last year though you would have said the same of Evans and look at him now, woeful.

Tom Cleverley & Danny Welbeck are having fine seasons out on loan though remains to be seen if they make it as future United players.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 21, 2010, 08:19:39 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on December 21, 2010, 05:30:27 PM
Heard recently that only once this season have Chelsea started a player under 23 years old in the league, Kakuta.
You're right about the United fringe players. Rafael is starting to really impress but the rest have a long long way to go. This time last year though you would have said the same of Evans and look at him now, woeful.

I'd be surprised if Sturridge hasn't started a league game? Anyhow look at the starts gained in the CL for U23s, Sturridge, Kakuta, Brauma, MacEacheran, PVA etc.

Chelsea have been criticised for not playing young players but now they do, it's switched to not starting young players! What next! Direction of goodness.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 27, 2010, 06:59:59 PM
Anelka on the bench. Good. Ruthlessness from CA.

Pub time for me.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on December 27, 2010, 07:25:34 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 27, 2010, 06:59:59 PM
Anelka on the bench. Good. Ruthlessness from CA.

Pub time for me.

Nicolas Anelka is not in the Squad confirmed knee injury.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: superblues on December 27, 2010, 09:20:53 PM
still something in this for chelsea
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Bingo on December 27, 2010, 11:11:44 PM
Unreal. Chelsea's worse run of form since they where formed in 2003.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on December 27, 2010, 11:14:23 PM
Looking at the fixtures Chelsea will be expecting to win the next five league games & if they hit form i can't see them losing again untill March.

P.S Abramovich has little patience so don't be surprised all this will be done under new management.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: King Kenny on December 27, 2010, 11:19:49 PM
Quote from: Bingo on December 27, 2010, 11:11:44 PM
Unreal. Chelsea's worse run of form since they where formed in 2003.
:D



Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: under the bar on December 28, 2010, 11:13:02 AM
QuoteLooking at the fixtures Chelsea will be expecting to win the next five league games & if they hit form i can't see them losing again untill March.


I will bet you as much as you are willing to lose that Chelsea do not win their next 5 league games.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 28, 2010, 12:57:21 PM
Too hungover to analyse, but once more Essien was a passanger. To be fair he had Kalou, Malouda and a few others on the bus too, but the Ghanian- if we had back up to come in- should be benched for his performances and attitude.

Terry, Cech and Ivan aside the rest were pitiful!

Looks like Kakuta starts v Bolton.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 28, 2010, 10:50:56 PM
Kaka's agent has just said that he is 90% certain that Kaka will join Chelsea in the summer!  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: under the bar on December 28, 2010, 11:09:40 PM
QuoteKaka's agent has just said that he is 90% certain that Kaka will join Chelsea in the summer! 

Given the 'mare he's experienced since joining Real he'd prob even go to Liverpool at the min if they came in for him...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on December 29, 2010, 07:19:50 PM
Out Mikel,Ferreira, Kalou.. in Bosingwa,Anelka & Ramires surely strong enough to beat Bolton at home?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on December 29, 2010, 09:15:47 PM
Bolton getting robbed yet again at Stamford Bridge.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Big Puff on December 29, 2010, 09:28:21 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 29, 2010, 09:15:47 PM
Bolton getting robbed yet again at Stamford Bridge.

how many tvs do you have on at once?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on December 29, 2010, 09:30:15 PM
Quote from: Big Puff on December 29, 2010, 09:28:21 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 29, 2010, 09:15:47 PM
Bolton getting robbed yet again at Stamford Bridge.

how many tvs do you have on at once?

Two laptops & a telly need more eyes though  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: anportmorforjfc on December 29, 2010, 11:19:18 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 29, 2010, 09:15:47 PM
Bolton getting robbed yet again at Stamford Bridge.


Just seen the highlights, how were bolton robbed?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 31, 2010, 10:00:05 AM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on December 29, 2010, 11:19:18 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 29, 2010, 09:15:47 PM
Bolton getting robbed yet again at Stamford Bridge.


Just seen the highlights, how were bolton robbed?

I am waiting for this inightfulness as well from the prophet.

A good result for the Chels on Weds night, but still much, much improvement required. The first 50-55 mins was more of the same old, however the last 30-40 mins were much better.

One of the hallmarks of that period was the effectiveness of Chelsea's middle 3. Lampard spraying the ball around and opening the game up, Essien showing the power plays he can, and MOTM Ramires working box to box.

The net result is that Sunday's game becomes pivotal. Two wins on the bounce signals a possible return to form. However the downside is a 5th booking to Ivanovic which opens the centre half problem once more!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 03:19:24 PM
Having watched the full 90mins & not highlights IMHO Bolton where denied a deserved point in Stamford bridge for the 2nd time in 8 months & yep it's getting freaky how prophet like i have become.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 31, 2010, 06:14:17 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 03:19:24 PM
Having watched the full 90mins & not highlights IMHO Bolton where denied a deserved point in Stamford bridge for the 2nd time in 8 months & yep it's getting freaky how prophet like i have become.

Ha
In your original post there was still 20 minutes of the game remaining AND you were watchin 76 matches simultaneously AND posting on here AND phoning your 'friends' in London. You were like SKY on a Saturday after all the analysts had been paid off! ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 06:46:52 PM
Well your match analysts needs to be somewhat better, "The first 50-55 mins was more of the same old" how about some credit to Bolton?

I don't let my heart rule my head over on the United thread! while many believed they were robbed with the late goal i was honest enough to say Birmingham deserved a draw.



Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 31, 2010, 06:56:09 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 06:46:52 PM
Well your match analysts needs to be somewhat better, "The first 50-55 mins was more of the same old" how about some credit to Bolton?

I don't let my heart rule my head over on the United thread! while many believed they were robbed with the late goal i was honest enough to say Birmingham deserved a draw.

Whataboutery.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: orangeman on January 02, 2011, 03:20:36 PM
What a comeback by Chelsa - class !!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on January 02, 2011, 03:22:42 PM
3-3
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Square Ball on January 02, 2011, 03:24:28 PM
is it over yet? My internet connection balls up and cant get the game
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on January 02, 2011, 03:30:02 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on January 02, 2011, 03:24:28 PM
is it over yet? My internet connection balls up and cant get the game

All over.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: orangeman on January 02, 2011, 03:34:18 PM
What a game.

What a pity Villa didn't believe that they could beat Chelsea and decided to defend from the 47th minute.


Terry was giving Drogba a quare bollocking at the end.


But for Villa's keeper, Chelsea could have beat them handy.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on January 02, 2011, 03:36:50 PM
Villa got a deserved point! did anyone see the penalty Chelsea got? first time i have ever seen a team get one for handling the ball the themselves.

Some turn around in the Chelsea results this season as they beat Villa 7-1 & Sunderland 7-2 last yr.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: orangeman on January 02, 2011, 03:50:18 PM
FROM BBC

Interesting to read into a couple of the celebrations for Chelsea's goals just now. Nobody seemed to want to congratulate Didier Drogba for his equaliser, while the whole team went nuts when John Terry bagged what was perceived to be the winner, running over to embrace Carlo Ancelotti. So, whether or not Drogba is Mr Popular, the squad are behind their manager,
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Real Laoislad on January 02, 2011, 04:00:45 PM
Quote from: orangeman on January 02, 2011, 03:50:18 PM
FROM BBC

Interesting to read into a couple of the celebrations for Chelsea's goals just now. Nobody seemed to want to congratulate Didier Drogba for his equaliser, while the whole team went nuts when John Terry bagged what was perceived to be the winner, running over to embrace Carlo Ancelotti. So, whether or not Drogba is Mr Popular, the squad are behind their manager,

Maybe it was just more of a case of with Drogbas goal it was get the ball back and the game started asap so they could push for the winner and with Terry's goal they thought it was the winner.
Deserved point for Villa,thought Brad Friedel alone deserved not to be on a losing side today he made some excellent saves.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 02, 2011, 04:19:05 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 02, 2011, 04:00:45 PM
Quote from: orangeman on January 02, 2011, 03:50:18 PM
FROM BBC

Interesting to read into a couple of the celebrations for Chelsea's goals just now. Nobody seemed to want to congratulate Didier Drogba for his equaliser, while the whole team went nuts when John Terry bagged what was perceived to be the winner, running over to embrace Carlo Ancelotti. So, whether or not Drogba is Mr Popular, the squad are behind their manager,

Maybe it was just more of a case of with Drogbas goal it was get the ball back and the game started asap so they could push for the winner and with Terry's goal they thought it was the winner.
Deserved point for Villa,thought Brad Friedel alone deserved not to be on a losing side today he made some excellent saves.

Aye. That's exactly what it was. Talk about spin from the BEEB.

The match itself, and again the question has to be asked why do Chelsea wait until the 50 to 60 minute mark before showing a sense of urgency. To me there are too many players looking at the bench (Anelka, Essien etc) and thinking there is nothing on that bench that they'll drop me for. Carlo has to start getting ruthless.

No matter who he puts in, he must start dropping the non performers to send out a message. Put MacEacheran in for Essien and Sturridge for Anelka. Something to send out a warning shot to the dressing room.

Even when it went to 3-2, I thought there was a sting in the tail, and alas...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: orangeman on January 02, 2011, 05:50:17 PM
Did any of you see the pictures of Terry giving Drogba a rollicking at full time ?.

It certainly didn't look good and it looks that all is not well in that relationship.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 02, 2011, 06:19:32 PM
Quote from: orangeman on January 02, 2011, 05:50:17 PM
Did any of you see the pictures of Terry giving Drogba a rollicking at full time ?.

It certainly didn't look good and it looks that all is not well in that relationship.

Never seen it, as I had to cut it as soon as the game was over, but good. Someone needs to be giving someone a rollicking!

I should add that just because someone gets a rollicking suggests that somethign is wrong in the 'relationship'! It more than likely means they are f**ked off!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Real Laoislad on January 02, 2011, 06:59:26 PM
Quote from: orangeman on January 02, 2011, 05:50:17 PM
Did any of you see the pictures of Terry giving Drogba a rollicking at full time ?.

It certainly didn't look good and it looks that all is not well in that relationship.

It looked to me that Drogba was giving Terry the rollicking
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: under the bar on January 02, 2011, 10:36:27 PM
QuoteIt looked to me that Drogba was giving Terry the rollicking

Makes more sense since Carvalho has left Terry's lack of ability is plain for all to see.  His skill of fouling blind-side of the ref seems to be his main contribution. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 03, 2011, 07:53:46 AM
Quote from: under the bar on January 02, 2011, 10:36:27 PM
QuoteIt looked to me that Drogba was giving Terry the rollicking

Makes more sense since Carvalho has left Terry's lack of ability is plain for all to see.  His skill of fouling blind-side of the ref seems to be his main contribution.

Except for the fact that Terry is having his best season in years and him along with Ivanovic are actually preventing Chelsea from even more calamitous results! Before yesterday Chelsea had the best defence in the league this season.

I enjoy the way Terry was 'crap' alongside Desailly, and then 'crap' alongside Gallas, and then 'crap' alongside Carvalho, and now he's still 'crap'.

Is eet cos I es English as someone used to say?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on January 03, 2011, 08:50:57 AM
Rumour has it Terry was also crap when he played with Bridges ex & John scored again yesterday only to show the world he suffers from premature celebration.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 05, 2011, 09:30:25 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 05, 2011, 09:39:27 PM
Let's look at the decisions tonight.

S**te at the weekend- Anelka, Essien, Malouda and Paulo.

So Malouda plays, Essien plays, Anelka is dropped, and the natural rotation of our right backs continues! Who starts for Anelka? Kalou. The same Kalou who is consistantly s***e when started in games. First sub tonight is Anelka for Kalou. FFS. It's basically rotating shite/ out of form players for shite/ out of form players.

The enthusiam of McEacheran, Sturridge and Kakuta continues to twiddle thumbs on the bench.

The result. Players playing with no fear of being dropped.

The next league game should see 2 or 3 cubs played regardless. Can't do any worse!

Will it happen? Will it f**k!

Tonight Chelsea relinquished the title. My da's a Wolves man so as soon as he works out how to us a phone... he'll be rubbing it in!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on January 05, 2011, 09:42:31 PM
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:D Carlo sacked in the morning?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 05, 2011, 09:58:38 PM
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:D Carlo sacked in the morning?

Dunno. It would be harsh. However he needs to be more ruthless!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Eddie Stobart on January 05, 2011, 10:12:52 PM
Just as well Chelsea had a good start to the season,otherwise they would be in a relegation battle with Liverpool..
Far cry from the great Champions League semi finals these clubs served up.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on January 05, 2011, 10:15:00 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 05, 2011, 09:58:38 PM
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:D Carlo sacked in the morning?

Dunno. It would be harsh. However he needs to be more ruthless!

Other managers got sacked for alot less maybe Roman will keep him hoping he can do another 2006/07 season he did with Ac Milan?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006%E2%80%9307_Serie_A (awful in the league but winning the European cup)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 05, 2011, 10:15:31 PM
Quote from: Eddie Stobart on January 05, 2011, 10:12:52 PM
Just as well Chelsea had a good start to the season,otherwise they would be in a relegation battle with Liverpool..
Far cry from the great Champions League semi finals these clubs served up.

Slow down a wee bit. Chelsea have had a bad two months. They are still in the CL race and in the last 16 of the CL, an still the double holders (For now). No obituries yet.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2011, 10:16:58 PM
Chelsea are 4/11 to come away with nothing this year!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 05, 2011, 10:43:18 PM
Seriously Chelsea what the hell is going on??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2011, 10:06:05 AM
Chelsea are 6/1 on WBX to win the UCL, they'll go close this year as that is the only thing this squad haven't won..
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: thebigfella on January 06, 2011, 10:21:08 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2011, 10:06:05 AM
Chelsea are 6/1 on WBX to win the UCL, they'll go close this year as that is the only thing this squad haven't won..

On present form FC Copenhagen will be a tough challenge considering they have only won 4 matches since the start of November in all competitions. I think they'll win but get hammered in the next round by better opposition, simply not good enough and don't see them turning it around.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Denn Forever on January 06, 2011, 10:23:43 AM
Wolves seemed to want it more. 

Seeing Cole being chased/harried towards his own goal (from inside the opposition's Half) and dispossessed really summed how up for it Wolves were.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2011, 10:33:34 AM
QuoteOn present form FC Copenhagen will be a tough challenge considering they have only won 4 matches since the start of November in all competitions. I think they'll win but get hammered in the next round by better opposition, simply not good enough and don't see them turning it around.

Sorry don't buy into that EPL form carrying into Europe, two totally different beasts and a completely different motivation. Chelsea are the only EPL team equipped to win the UCL this year.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 06, 2011, 10:44:35 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2011, 10:33:34 AM
QuoteOn present form FC Copenhagen will be a tough challenge considering they have only won 4 matches since the start of November in all competitions. I think they'll win but get hammered in the next round by better opposition, simply not good enough and don't see them turning it around.

Sorry don't buy into that EPL form carrying into Europe, two totally different beasts and a completely different motivation. Chelsea are the only EPL team equipped to win the UCL this year.

100% correct Dinny followed by Utd.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: thebigfella on January 06, 2011, 10:59:58 AM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on January 06, 2011, 10:44:35 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2011, 10:33:34 AM
QuoteOn present form FC Copenhagen will be a tough challenge considering they have only won 4 matches since the start of November in all competitions. I think they'll win but get hammered in the next round by better opposition, simply not good enough and don't see them turning it around.

Sorry don't buy into that EPL form carrying into Europe, two totally different beasts and a completely different motivation. Chelsea are the only EPL team equipped to win the UCL this year.

100% correct Dinny followed by Utd.

Wise up the pair of you, Chelsea are a shambles at the moment, especially at the back. Also Essien for me has went from being one of the best players (IMO) in the world to Eric Demba Demba in less than a season. If they don't turn it around before the Champions League kicks off again their confidence will be totally shot and it won't matter how much motivation they have.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 06, 2011, 11:36:24 AM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on January 05, 2011, 10:43:18 PM
Seriously Chelsea what the hell is going on??

I would say their best players are getting old but you wouldn't expect age to kick in so suddenly. Very strange how they've just fallen off a cliff though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 06, 2011, 03:18:21 PM
I am not sure if the age thing is the factor people are making it out to be. Certainly it has an impact, but I think it's a handy thing to blame.

Look at the players that are playing especially poor, Kalou, Anelka, Essien, and Malouda. Only Anelka is in the so called 'old' range. I think the team had a dip in confidence, and where-by in previous years you could arrest that fairly quickly with a handyish win against a Sunderland or a Birmingham. Well that fall back is more difficult this year due to the improvemen on the mid table teams.

Suddenly a 2-3 game run becomes 6-7 and the hole just gets deeper.

I am not convinced the defence is the issue as well, as most people seem to suggest. Ivanovic, Terry and Cech have been among our better performers this year. The trouble, ironically considering last year, is our ability to create openings.

I am not convinced Drogba is fully fit. You can't have a serious disease one day and be able to play top class football the next. You simply can't.

Anelka is not the man for a crisis, and his lack of 'important goals' in his Chelsea career is glaring. Malouda's form drifts alarmingly, Kalou is  good sub, while neither Sturridge nor Kakuta are bein given a chance. That leaves Lampard who is just coming back from injury and will need a week or two.

Personally we need a right winger, a play maker and another stiker. Now Kakuta, Sturridge and McEacheran can do these roles, but they'll need time.

Ironically in today's reserve league, Chelsea beat Spurs 7-3. Guess who scored? Sturridge with 5 (Yes 5) and Kakuta.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: nrico2006 on January 06, 2011, 03:25:34 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2011, 10:33:34 AM
QuoteOn present form FC Copenhagen will be a tough challenge considering they have only won 4 matches since the start of November in all competitions. I think they'll win but get hammered in the next round by better opposition, simply not good enough and don't see them turning it around.

Sorry don't buy into that EPL form carrying into Europe, two totally different beasts and a completely different motivation. Chelsea are the only EPL team equipped to win the UCL this year.

Bollox, Chelsea are on the slide and people got carried away with their start to the season when anybody with half a brain could see they had a handy start fixture wise.  They will turn it around to an extent, personally think they will finish 3rd in the league.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 06, 2011, 03:36:58 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 06, 2011, 03:25:34 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2011, 10:33:34 AM
QuoteOn present form FC Copenhagen will be a tough challenge considering they have only won 4 matches since the start of November in all competitions. I think they'll win but get hammered in the next round by better opposition, simply not good enough and don't see them turning it around.

Sorry don't buy into that EPL form carrying into Europe, two totally different beasts and a completely different motivation. Chelsea are the only EPL team equipped to win the UCL this year.

Bollox, Chelsea are on the slide and people got carried away with their start to the season when anybody with half a brain could see they had a handy start fixture wise.  They will turn it around to an extent, personally think they will finish 3rd in the league.

The fixtures were handyish, but no more difficult than the games we are losing now. The teams at the start of the year were, WBA, Wigan, Stoke, West Ham, Blackpool, Man City, Arsenal, Villa, Wolves then Blackburn. A run which yielded W8, D1 an L1.

All those teams mentioned have beaten the so called big teams at some point. Indeed United could've and should've lost to some on that list, especially WBA.

I think the phrase 'handy fixture' is especially redundant this year.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on January 06, 2011, 07:03:48 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 06, 2011, 03:18:21 PM


I am not convinced Drogba is fully fit. You can't have a serious disease one day and be able to play top class football the next. You simply can't.



Well i'm not convinced about the illness i think it was a excuse for poor form, no way would Carlo be starting him week in week out if he wasn't fully fit & at least his form is better than Torres,Rooney or his own in season 2008/09.

Have to say i admire your faith in the Chelsea cubs to me they look very raw have any of them been out on loan?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 06, 2011, 07:52:12 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 06, 2011, 07:03:48 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 06, 2011, 03:18:21 PM


I am not convinced Drogba is fully fit. You can't have a serious disease one day and be able to play top class football the next. You simply can't.



Well i'm not convinced about the illness i think it was a excuse for poor form, no way would Carlo be starting him week in week out if he wasn't fully fit & at least his form is better than Torres,Rooney or his own in season 2008/09.

Have to say i admire your faith in the Chelsea cubs to me they look very raw have any of them been out on loan?

Don't get me wrong. I don't think the cubs are the complete answer. However part of the problem is that senior footballers are playing with no fear of being dropped. The soloution is to drop them. The only way to do that is play the cubs because with injuries to Mikel, Alex, Zhirkov, & Benayoun etc they are the only options.

However the cubs do have promise. McEacheran is the best young player I've ever seen coming through  Chelsea, while Bruma, Kakuta and Van Aarnholt have a chance. A good chance.

The only fella that has gone on loan was Van Aarnholt who did very well at Newcastle and Coventry last year. Sturridge of course has shown enough at City and the spells I've seen him come on at Chelsea to suggest he deserves a starting run.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 06, 2011, 08:02:22 PM
To the tune of "I will survive"...

At first I was afraid I was petrified
Kept thinkin' I would never again see McEachran in the side
But then I spent so many nights
Thinkin' how Carlo was wrong
I remembered the FA Cup 3rd round, and then I learned how to carry on

And so its Ipswich, you'll get a place
Maybe at the expense of Kalouless with that dopey look on his face
Carlo should have already changed the stupid line up
He should have made you the midfield key
If he'd' known for just one second how bad Essien was gonna be

Go on now Josh, walk out the changing room door
Don't turn around now
Cos you're not on the subs bench anymore
Weren't you man of the match in Monaco, one I saw actually try?
You didnt crumble, you didnt lay down and die

Oh Sunday, Josh..you'll run the side
You'll give all of us supporters back some long forgotten pride
If you give all you have to give
Even a replay I could live with
I will survive, even dream of reaching round 5. Hey hey.

As its clear the untouchables team has now fallen apart
I keep trying' hard to think why Anelka and Drogba always get to start
And I spent oh so many nights just feeling sorry for myself, I used to cry
But on Sunday afternoon, I can hold my head up high

I see Sundays team, with somebody new
I'm no longer that depressed and angry person, I'll be back in love with the Blues
And so if you feel like scoring one, maybe two or maybe three
I'll be doing all my cheering' for someone who's cheering me

Go on now Josh.. etc.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on January 07, 2011, 07:44:47 PM
Banners outside the Chelsea training ground this morning.

(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/794dbcaa5a.jpg)

Doesn't say much for the Chelsea fans that hung those up?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ONeill on January 07, 2011, 07:55:14 PM
Those supporters must be young. If they'd remembered the 60s, 70s, 80s and a lot of the 90s they'd realise that Chelsea's status is off the scale compared to then.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on January 07, 2011, 08:11:51 PM
Yup agree O'Neill, short memories these fans have with little or no knowledge of the history of Chelsea FC
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 08, 2011, 02:05:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 07, 2011, 07:55:14 PM
Those supporters must be young. If they'd remembered the 60s, 70s, 80s and a lot of the 90s they'd realise that Chelsea's status is off the scale compared to then.

Totally agree. However it may only have been one or two fans involved.

I enjoyed Chelsea in the 80s. It was fun.

For the record Chelsea's rise to today started in May 1993 (I think that's when Hoddle started) off the top of my head.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on January 08, 2011, 05:42:13 PM
Gullit,Vialli late 90s more than Hoddle IMO
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 08, 2011, 07:06:39 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 08, 2011, 05:42:13 PM
Gullit,Vialli late 90s more than Hoddle IMO

Nope. The whole mind set changed when Glenda came. Cup final in 94, signing Gullit, Hughes etc, semi final in 95.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on January 08, 2011, 07:17:50 PM
Don't forget the big part this wee man played for the club

(http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/11/23/mbs_zola_narrowweb__300x490,0.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 08, 2011, 11:23:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 08, 2011, 09:50:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 08, 2011, 07:06:39 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 08, 2011, 05:42:13 PM
Gullit,Vialli late 90s more than Hoddle IMO

Nope. The whole mind set changed when Glenda came. Cup final in 94, signing Gullit, Hughes etc, semi final in 95.
United beat them 4-0. I remember me and my da watching it in the upstairs 'living quarters' of a pub Kiltyclogher.

Held our own the first hour, hit the bar, went one down and then that Ellery hoor made a shocking decision, and United ran riot.

I cried a wee bit. Then walked home. Then went out and got very drunk. Good times.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: under the bar on January 08, 2011, 11:36:55 PM
QuoteI cried a wee bit. Then walked home. Then went out and got very drunk. Good times.

So as a Chelsea fan in the old days what's your take on the whole thing now Norf when not a player has come through the youth system in a decade and everything has been bought with foreign billions and nothing built up as before under the good work by hoddle/hullit/vialli etc? 
Serious question btw
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on January 09, 2011, 12:15:35 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 08, 2011, 11:23:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 08, 2011, 09:50:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 08, 2011, 07:06:39 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 08, 2011, 05:42:13 PM
Gullit,Vialli late 90s more than Hoddle IMO

Nope. The whole mind set changed when Glenda came. Cup final in 94, signing Gullit, Hughes etc, semi final in 95.
United beat them 4-0. I remember me and my da watching it in the upstairs 'living quarters' of a pub Kiltyclogher.

Held our own the first hour, hit the bar, went one down and then that Ellery hoor made a shocking decision, and United ran riot.

I cried a wee bit. Then walked home. Then went out and got very drunk. Good times.

Still have the newspaper cuttings of that match, chelsea fanced their chances going into the game on the back of two 1-0 wins i think both goals from Peacock?

Ryan Giggs is the only player left from that era.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AZOffaly on January 09, 2011, 12:17:33 AM
Every one of your posts reads like a programme note ross :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on January 09, 2011, 12:26:02 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 09, 2011, 12:17:33 AM
Every one of your posts reads like a programme note ross :)

I know i'm turning into him

(http://estb.msn.com/i/C8/F3B9A2BD4BEDBE5FE2437F66C14F2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2011, 01:02:07 AM
Quote from: under the bar on January 08, 2011, 11:36:55 PM
QuoteI cried a wee bit. Then walked home. Then went out and got very drunk. Good times.

So as a Chelsea fan in the old days what's your take on the whole thing now Norf when not a player has come through the youth system in a decade and everything has been bought with foreign billions and nothing built up as before under the good work by hoddle/hullit/vialli etc? 
Serious question btw

I think it's f**king great!  ;D

Seriously though. Twice in my lifetime Chelsea almost went bust. Once in around 1982ish before good old Batesy saved us, and then in 2003 when, if the rumours are to be believed, Chelsea were on the verge again.

So in that context the only thing to do is sit back and enjoy the run.

However the notion that not a player has come through the youth system in the last ten years is a false one. Remember Robert Huth, Jon Harley, JT, Carlton Cole and numerous others got their first breaks at Chelsea in the last ten years. The problem is that when you are in the top two teams in England and the top five or six in Europe, as we've been over the last six or seven years, it's difficult to promote from within. The players coming through have to the crème de la crème.

Look at Liverpool as an example of a team who have not really brought anyone through in that same period. Look at the United side and you could argue that they've brought no one through of any real quality in the last few years as well!

The thing is, the good work by Hoddle, Gullit etc has lead to where Chelsea are today. Hoddle changed the mind set of the club, Gullit glammed it up, Vialli brought trophies, Ranieri continued the good work and his CL qualification in 2003 ensured that Chelsea were primed just right for the arrival of RA.

The arrival of Abromovich tends to make people forget how close Chelsea were to winning the PL in 1999, going to the second last game of the season in the hunt, and in truth throwing it away!

So the 'billions'- not sure it's quite that- helped, but the Club's performance over the previous 10 years ensured that they were ripe for the taking and an attractive proposition for a takeover. I always find it curious how the media portrayed Harding's cash injection as being good for football, but Roman's was 'bad'. This despite RA's money saving 5 or 6 English sides from going bust!

In an ideal world it be great to have 11 home grown youngsters, but that rarely happens anywhere in the world. People will throw up Barce, but Villa, Mascherano, Adriano have all come in for big money this year, and over the last few years they have not been shy in the transfer marker by any stretch.

As I've been there and nearly seeing the club go under twice, and remember the days in division two, I appreciate everything that's happened over the last few years. You'll note on various team threads how some people get blasé about league cup semi finals, FA Cup games etc. Not me. I know that every win's a bonus, every cup run is to be enjoyed, and a final is a day out. No matter whom it's against! No matter what resources a club has it can all change so quickly. With great respect to Liverpool, no one thought they'd be where they are now, ditto Leeds a few years back.

I am away to bed now. The voyage to FA Cup three in a row history starts tomorrow!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2011, 03:40:49 PM
Sturridginator.... 2-0.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on January 09, 2011, 03:58:59 PM
Everton away next round should be a tasty tie
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2011, 06:50:12 PM
MacEacheran runs the show today. However Ancellotti has already come out and said that Essien will replace the youngster for next Saturday's game v Blackburn.

Piss poor man management. At least make Essien sweat it out all week.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Worker on January 09, 2011, 06:50:47 PM
Chelski back on track?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on January 09, 2011, 06:58:08 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2011, 06:50:12 PM
MacEacheran runs the show today. However Ancellotti has already come out and said that Essien will replace the youngster for next Saturday's game v Blackburn.

Piss poor man management. At least make Essien sweat it out all week.

Not to worry sure it's only Blackburn at home  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2011, 07:45:59 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 09, 2011, 06:58:08 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2011, 06:50:12 PM
MacEacheran runs the show today. However Ancellotti has already come out and said that Essien will replace the youngster for next Saturday's game v Blackburn.

Piss poor man management. At least make Essien sweat it out all week.

Not to worry sure it's only Blackburn at home  ;)

No easy games in the Premiership.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Zapatista on January 10, 2011, 08:46:43 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 03, 2010, 09:32:25 PM
Sent you a PM there Zap.

Cheers Norf. Yer man is delighted with that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 10, 2011, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: Zapatista on January 10, 2011, 08:46:43 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 03, 2010, 09:32:25 PM
Sent you a PM there Zap.

Cheers Norf. Yer man is delighted with that.

Aye he text me yesterday. I swear the text was in Cockney!

;D

No bother at all!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 20, 2011, 09:07:24 PM
Chelsea yoof 2 Arsenal yoof 1.

Lalkovic with two. Scousers next I think?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on January 20, 2011, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 20, 2011, 09:07:24 PM
Chelsea yoof 2 Arsenal yoof 1.

Lalkovic with two. Scousers next I think?

No Barnsley.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 20, 2011, 10:27:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 20, 2011, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 20, 2011, 09:07:24 PM
Chelsea yoof 2 Arsenal yoof 1.

Lalkovic with two. Scousers next I think?

No Barnsley.

I'd be lost without you. The Scousers confused me a few days back after their game, when they had Chelsea 'out'!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 26, 2011, 02:10:35 AM
Davy Light heading to the Bridge tomorrow or Thursday it seems, with Nemanja Matic being made a make weight in the deal.

Mixed feelings on this. I have never seen him play, but according to numerous casual observers he is exceptional.

However we've 4 centre halfs already! Surely a midfield play maker or a wide right foward would be more important?

By the way... Ramires is starting to show signs of being an excellent buy!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 26, 2011, 02:07:48 PM
Good luck Gael. It'll do you the world of good!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 26, 2011, 03:29:07 PM
Er, um. Good luck Paddy Van as well!

Some players better get fit soon, or we better sign some players, or our squad is going to be wiped out!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 28, 2011, 02:18:26 PM
Woke up this morning all excited at the prospect of our reserve forward line of Borini, Mitrovic and Torres!  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on January 28, 2011, 02:22:55 PM
north i dont have a wile pile to add; just thought id post to take the bad look of you continually posting to yourself lolz  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Real Laoislad on January 28, 2011, 02:49:18 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on January 28, 2011, 02:22:55 PM
north i dont have a wile pile to add; just thought id post to take the bad look of you continually posting to yourself lolz  ;D ;D

Ah in fairness he has ross4life for company..!...think I'd rather be on my own
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 28, 2011, 05:46:19 PM
Thanks lads. I was starting to talk to myself there. Isn't that right Marty.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: gawa316 on January 28, 2011, 05:48:29 PM
Any news coming from the bridge about Torres North?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 28, 2011, 05:50:16 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on January 28, 2011, 05:48:29 PM
Any news coming from the bridge about Torres North?

To be honest, I haven't really had a chance to check much. Flat out all day, and away to work now!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Real Laoislad on January 28, 2011, 05:55:13 PM
Why is everyone calling Norf North?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: gawa316 on January 28, 2011, 06:05:34 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 28, 2011, 05:55:13 PM
Why is everyone calling Norf North?

Didn't even notice, guess I'm just used to saying that up here
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 29, 2011, 02:26:41 PM
Only seen the last 20 mins, but a bit of a scrappy game. Very happy to get a replay with Kalou scoring on his first touch.

Kalou's a frustrating individual, but nearly always threatens when used as a sub!

Three-in-a-row still on!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on January 29, 2011, 07:22:45 PM
Saw the last 60mins Everton the better team! essien block from coleman was the turning point of the game

Wouldn't say many Chelsea fans would be happy with the Drogba performance today? though he'll probably score the winner in the replay now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 01:07:50 AM
Up early tomorrow and get the weins to school. It's just me then and SSN waiting on that wee yellow bar to confirm Luiz, Aguero, Godin and some other squad players.

I mind the time Clive Allen and Jason Cundy were sold on transfer deadline day, and Emerson Thome as well after that. I was f**king raging. How times have changed....

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 01:48:13 AM
http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/breves2011/20110130_195129_offre-de-chelsea-pour-payet.html (http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/breves2011/20110130_195129_offre-de-chelsea-pour-payet.html)

Or Dimitri Payet!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 09:50:51 AM
Still nothing yet. This could all go badly wrong. No Luiz, no Aguero, Nothing. A transfer window that included Kakuta out, PVA out and Sturridge heading ot Bolton. This is all after we missed out on Piennar.   :o


Oh shit. Nurse.... NURSE!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 31, 2011, 09:55:21 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 09:50:51 AM
Still nothing yet. This could all go badly wrong. No Luiz, no Aguero, Nothing. A transfer window that included Kakuta out, PVA out and Sturridge heading ot Bolton. This is all after we missed out on Piennar.   :o


Oh shit. Nurse.... NURSE!

I'm sure if Nando made the Judas run you'd be happy enough :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 10:03:41 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 31, 2011, 09:55:21 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 09:50:51 AM
Still nothing yet. This could all go badly wrong. No Luiz, no Aguero, Nothing. A transfer window that included Kakuta out, PVA out and Sturridge heading ot Bolton. This is all after we missed out on Piennar.   :o


Oh shit. Nurse.... NURSE!

I'm sure if Nando made the Judas run you'd be happy enough :P

I don't think he's the most critical signing ever, so personally. Can't lose.

Sign him. Great.
Don't sign him. He stays at Liverpool and I've fun reading back over how much of a Judas, useless, past it, injury prone, useless c**t he is/was.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 05:05:32 PM
My f**king F5 button has just gave up on me!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 07:26:49 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yVlwK8Im2AE/TUbJWRbrKwI/AAAAAAAAAL4/A9y6hVzn9U4/s400/Torrescopter.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 07:49:11 PM
Was it just two weeks back that Roman's failure to land Pieenar suggested (Again) he had fallen out of love with Chelsea?

;D

£75 million splashed on one day!!!!!!! Roman heart Chelsea!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 08:08:32 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 07:49:11 PM
Was it just two weeks back that Roman's failure to land Pieenar suggested (Again) he had fallen out of love with Chelsea?

;D

£75 million splashed on one day!!!!!!! Roman heart Chelsea!

Just another couple of toys for the play room lad  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 08:15:57 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 08:08:32 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 07:49:11 PM
Was it just two weeks back that Roman's failure to land Pieenar suggested (Again) he had fallen out of love with Chelsea?

;D

£75 million splashed on one day!!!!!!! Roman heart Chelsea!

Just another couple of toys for the play room lad  ;)

I know!  :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 08:15:57 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 08:08:32 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 07:49:11 PM
Was it just two weeks back that Roman's failure to land Pieenar suggested (Again) he had fallen out of love with Chelsea?

;D

£75 million splashed on one day!!!!!!! Roman heart Chelsea!

Just another couple of toys for the play room lad  ;)

I know!  :)

Great signing.

All Chelsea fans must be completely delighted.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 08:27:18 PM
Studge away to Bolton on loan by the looks. Great deal for Coyle there!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Real Laoislad on January 31, 2011, 08:35:03 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 08:15:57 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 08:08:32 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 07:49:11 PM
Was it just two weeks back that Roman's failure to land Pieenar suggested (Again) he had fallen out of love with Chelsea?

;D

£75 million splashed on one day!!!!!!! Roman heart Chelsea!

Just another couple of toys for the play room lad  ;)

I know!  :)

Great signing.

All Chelsea fans must be completely delighted.

Maybe not all of them  ;)

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m266/laoislad/Torres.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Puckoon on January 31, 2011, 08:36:00 PM
Are they all raising imaginary beer mugs?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Puckoon on January 31, 2011, 08:38:19 PM
from BBC

Right then... worrying developments for Chelsea fans, if what worries you is completely speculative chat on social networking sites... word on the Tweet is that Benfica have "pulled David Luiz off the plane to London" and say they are "analysing" Chelsea's offer for the centre-half. I reiterate, that's unconfirmed as far as I know.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 08:38:31 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 31, 2011, 08:35:03 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 08:15:57 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 08:08:32 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 07:49:11 PM
Was it just two weeks back that Roman's failure to land Pieenar suggested (Again) he had fallen out of love with Chelsea?

;D

£75 million splashed on one day!!!!!!! Roman heart Chelsea!

Just another couple of toys for the play room lad  ;)

I know!  :)

Great signing.

All Chelsea fans must be completely delighted.

Maybe not all of them  ;)

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m266/laoislad/Torres.jpg)

lol good picture.

Fighting to give him a hand job.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 08:40:34 PM
(http://i54.tinypic.com/svnzvo.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 08:44:48 PM
The rumour is that Chelsea are readying El Nino (We've just gave him that nickname.. good isn't it?) for an exclusive Chelsea TV interview tonight. Exciting if true!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Real Laoislad on January 31, 2011, 08:52:44 PM
When Torres signed for Liverpool rumour has it that he spent a whole weekend locked up in a hotel room immersing himself in Liverpool FC history,watching DVD's reading books and came out with a total understanding about what the club and the fans and the glorious history is about....

It should take him till about tea time to get through Chelsea's history...........
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 08:56:19 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 31, 2011, 08:52:44 PM
When Torres signed for Liverpool rumour has it that he spent a whole weekend locked up in a hotel room immersing himself in Liverpool FC history,watching DVD's reading books and came out with a total understanding about what the club and the fans and the glorious history is about....

It should take him till about tea time to get through Chelsea's history...........

Sure he doesn't need to read about it, sure he'll be living it the next few years. Let him go RLL.... let him go.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on January 31, 2011, 08:58:21 PM
A dozen Chelsea fans at Stamford Bridge  ???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: gawa316 on January 31, 2011, 09:03:32 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 31, 2011, 08:58:21 PM
A dozen Chelsea fans at Stamford Bridge  ???

Any flags?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 09:04:52 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 31, 2011, 08:58:21 PM
A dozen Chelsea fans at Stamford Bridge  ???

Sure we're used to seeing world class stars coming. Why go overboard about it?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 09:05:35 PM
Looking like 5.5 year deal.

;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Doogie Browser on January 31, 2011, 09:07:06 PM
Abramovich obviously didn't lump on Norf Tyrone's tip today!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on January 31, 2011, 09:08:55 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 10, 2010, 05:43:18 PM
I expect Chelsea to go on a spending spree for experienced players in Jan to replace the departed Deco,Ballack,Cole & Belletti

Right again  8)

As you said 75 million spent in one day by roman,it shows the kinda faith he has in Chelseas youth.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 31, 2011, 09:10:43 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on January 31, 2011, 09:03:32 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 31, 2011, 08:58:21 PM
A dozen Chelsea fans at Stamford Bridge  ???

Any flags?

Plastic flag factory staying in production overnight to have them ready for the weekend.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2011, 09:16:52 PM
QuoteEnglish champions Chelsea announced Monday a total loss of 70.9 million pounds for the financial year ending June 30, 2010

now they splash out £75 million in one day, uefa's financial fair play me bollix...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 09:18:12 PM
Loving it. Loving it. Keep it coming lads. Keep it coming.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: supersarsfields on January 31, 2011, 09:31:01 PM
Nothing going to annoy you the nite norf!!   :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Big Puff on January 31, 2011, 09:33:30 PM
What squad numbers are free in the chelsea squad?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 09:43:10 PM
Quote from: Big Puff on January 31, 2011, 09:33:30 PM
What squad numbers are free in the chelsea squad?

4, 6, and number..... 9!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Big Puff on January 31, 2011, 09:45:13 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 09:43:10 PM
Quote from: Big Puff on January 31, 2011, 09:33:30 PM
What squad numbers are free in the chelsea squad?

4, 6, and number..... 9!

According to Wiki, Torres already has the no 9 shirt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_F.C. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_F.C.)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 09:53:52 PM
Bruce Buck has just arrived with a pen!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: new devil on January 31, 2011, 09:58:48 PM
Congrats Norf great signing for yous...Torres is a great player and deserves to be at a big club to win trophies
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Big Puff on January 31, 2011, 10:16:13 PM
Chavski 7/1 to win the league...anyone tempted after todays activity?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 10:19:50 PM
We used to hate your feckin' guts Torres Torres
Now you're driving Scousers nuts Torres Torres
You banged his car and burnt his shirt
To see him play in blue must hurt
Fernando Torres Chelsea's No. 9

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 31, 2011, 10:23:12 PM

Puts the ramifications of achieving the postponement of the united league game in perspective!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 10:28:08 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 31, 2011, 10:23:12 PM

Puts the ramifications of achieving the postponement of the united league game in perspective!

Is that that pesky PC again!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 11:05:33 PM
To Mr Torres and Mr Luiz... Welcome to the home of the Champions! Get in!

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: muppet on January 31, 2011, 11:19:23 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 31, 2011, 11:05:33 PM
To Mrs Torres and Mrs Luiz... Welcome to the home of the Champions! Get in!
;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: All of a Sludden on January 31, 2011, 11:30:42 PM
Will Torres start on Sunday?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: nrico2006 on February 01, 2011, 08:47:26 AM
Torres could turn out to be a great signing for Chelsea, or a major flop.  How likely is he to return to the form he showed a few seasons ago with Liverpool, or have the constant injuries taken their toll?  Will he play more than 20 games a season for Chelsea?  How will he handle playing at a team where someone else is the top dog up front, and Chelsea haven't exactly set the world alight when trying to pair Drogba with someone else up front.  As I said, he could turn out to be great and show that his recent Liverpool form wasn't down to injury etc but down to attitude.  He could be the perfect partner for Drogba and fire them to the Champions League crown.  It will be an interesting few months ahead.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 09:14:14 AM
The thing i don't understand is why a club need to spend 50m on a forward after finishing last season the highest pl goalscorers ever.... Maybe its because they want to win the 6-0 games 9-0?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 01, 2011, 09:25:37 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 09:14:14 AM
The thing i don't understand is why a club need to spend 50m on a forward after finishing last season the highest pl goalscorers ever.... Maybe its because they want to win the 6-0 games 9-0?

The most important thing when you're at the top, is to stay there.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 01, 2011, 09:46:53 AM
It'll be interesting now to speculate on what Chelsea's strongest XI is going to be. My biggest worry is the formation. Will Ancellotti try and squeeze all the 'big names' in? If he does we could end up seeing the dreaded diamond again.

Torres and Drogba will both definately feature together, but would a 4-3-3 work with those two in it?

So what line will Torres join?

Fleck, Kezman, Sutton, Shevchenko?
Hasselbaink, Drogba, Dixon, Flo?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: muppet on February 01, 2011, 10:02:25 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 09:14:14 AM
The thing i don't understand is why a club need to spend 50m on a forward after finishing last season the highest pl goalscorers ever.... Maybe its because they want to win the 6-0 games 9-0?

Drogba will be 33 in March and Anelka will be 32 in March.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 01, 2011, 09:25:37 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 09:14:14 AM
The thing i don't understand is why a club need to spend 50m on a forward after finishing last season the highest pl goalscorers ever.... Maybe its because they want to win the 6-0 games 9-0?

The most important thing when you're at the top, is to stay there.

Totally agree & once Man United finally make it to number 19 (something i have been looking forward to for some time) they will be officially the top dogs of English football & TBH i'll be long gone from God's green earth before Chelsea's reach that mountain.

Quote from: muppet on February 01, 2011, 10:02:25 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 09:14:14 AM
The thing i don't understand is why a club need to spend 50m on a forward after finishing last season the highest pl goalscorers ever.... Maybe its because they want to win the 6-0 games 9-0?

Drogba will be 33 in March and Anelka will be 32 in March.

Hush now... Norf told us all they weren't old with plenty of years left.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 01, 2011, 10:34:18 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 01, 2011, 09:25:37 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 09:14:14 AM
The thing i don't understand is why a club need to spend 50m on a forward after finishing last season the highest pl goalscorers ever.... Maybe its because they want to win the 6-0 games 9-0?

The most important thing when you're at the top, is to stay there.

Totally agree & once Man United finally make it to number 19 (something i have been looking forward to for some time) they will be officially the top dogs of English football & TBH i'll be long gone from God's green earth before Chelsea's reach that mountain.

Quote from: muppet on February 01, 2011, 10:02:25 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 09:14:14 AM
The thing i don't understand is why a club need to spend 50m on a forward after finishing last season the highest pl goalscorers ever.... Maybe its because they want to win the 6-0 games 9-0?

Drogba will be 33 in March and Anelka will be 32 in March.

Hush now... Norf told us all they weren't old with plenty of years left.

I am torn between asking you did I see that, or just leaving it and enjoy day one of the Torres/ Luiz era!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2011, 05:08:25 PM
NT, I'm curious you've always extolled the virtues of the young players coming through at Chelsea and seem to genuine lament when they don't get the opportunites and this season in particular you seemed content to see Chelsea trim their squad and put more focus on getting young players through

So how does a £75m loss in a double year and £71m on two players fit in with that, I guess some part of you is actually disappointed yesterday even though the opportunity to gloat at the children was very enjoyable?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 10:10:01 PM
Chelsea will finish ahead of Arsenal in the PL table this season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 01, 2011, 10:11:47 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2011, 05:08:25 PM
NT, I'm curious you've always extolled the virtues of the young players coming through at Chelsea and seem to genuine lament when they don't get the opportunites and this season in particular you seemed content to see Chelsea trim their squad and put more focus on getting young players through

So how does a £75m loss in a double year and £71m on two players fit in with that, I guess some part of you is actually disappointed yesterday even though the opportunity to gloat at the children was very enjoyable?

It's a good question Dinny that deserves more than a one line answer, so I'll reply when I have a wee bit more time on my hands.

As for tonight, that was a superb game of football with Chelsea's performance surpassing perhaps anything I seen from them last year. It certainly looked like the arrival of fresh blood has gave Mssrs Drogba, Kalou and Anelka the toe up the hole required.

Anelka in particular was unbelievable. It was easilly the best game I've seen from him in a blue shirt. More of the same please Chelsea!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 01, 2011, 10:37:44 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 10:10:01 PM
Chelsea will finish ahead of Arsenal in the PL table this season.

How do you know?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Puckoon on February 01, 2011, 10:38:46 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on February 01, 2011, 10:37:44 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 10:10:01 PM
Chelsea will finish ahead of Arsenal in the PL table this season.

How do yo know?

He'd better hope they don't, because if a team finishes above Arsenal this season (and if it happens there will only be one), they will win the league.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 10:41:41 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on February 01, 2011, 10:37:44 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 10:10:01 PM
Chelsea will finish ahead of Arsenal in the PL table this season.

How do you know?

Have dotted all the i's & crossed all the t's we'll see if i'm right again!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 01, 2011, 10:44:55 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 10:41:41 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on February 01, 2011, 10:37:44 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 10:10:01 PM
Chelsea will finish ahead of Arsenal in the PL table this season.

How do you know?

Have dotted all the i's & crossed all the t's we'll see if i'm right again!

Hope youve jinxed yourself and your wrong just this once.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2011, 11:10:07 AM
Well today marks the day when the former idol returns to face his old fans in the enemies shirt. Personally I hope he gets a decent reception and the Judas c**t, doesn't get the abuse he'll likely face. However I can understand too the hurt that it can cause especially when he did proclaim his love for the club, and then he ups and leave for just a few pound more. But enough about Joe Cole.

Well today will be spikey, and I would say that Liverpool will be really fired up for this today, meaning Chelsea need to reciprocate if they want to get the 3 points they need.

Personally I doubt Torres or Luiz will start, and instead the 11 that started midweek v Sunderland (And played fantastically well) will be back in action today. Indeed CA has already said that Anelka starts.

Should be good crack!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on February 06, 2011, 11:54:56 AM
I thought Spuds offered Cole more money, I could be wrong though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on February 06, 2011, 12:08:27 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2011, 11:10:07 AM
Well today marks the day when the former idol returns to face his old fans in the enemies shirt. Personally I hope he gets a decent reception and the Judas c**t, doesn't get the abuse he'll likely face. However I can understand too the hurt that it can cause especially when he did proclaim his love for the club, and then he ups and leave for just a few pound more. But enough about Joe Cole.

Well today will be spikey, and I would say that Liverpool will be really fired up for this today, meaning Chelsea need to reciprocate if they want to get the 3 points they need.

Personally I doubt Torres or Luiz will start, and instead the 11 that started midweek v Sunderland (And played fantastically well) will be back in action today. Indeed CA has already said that Anelka starts.

Should be good crack!

How will Luiz fit in when Alex is fit? & doesn't Torres play best when he's on his own up front
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 06, 2011, 01:02:51 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2011, 11:10:07 AM
Well today marks the day when the former idol returns to face his old fans in the enemies shirt. Personally I hope he gets a decent reception and the Judas c**t, doesn't get the abuse he'll likely face. However I can understand too the hurt that it can cause especially when he did proclaim his love for the club, and then he ups and leave for just a few pound more. But enough about Joe Cole.


If John Aldridge is to be believed Liverpool could be adding another Cole from Chelsea to their squad in the summer.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 06, 2011, 01:07:25 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on February 06, 2011, 01:02:51 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2011, 11:10:07 AM
Well today marks the day when the former idol returns to face his old fans in the enemies shirt. Personally I hope he gets a decent reception and the Judas c**t, doesn't get the abuse he'll likely face. However I can understand too the hurt that it can cause especially when he did proclaim his love for the club, and then he ups and leave for just a few pound more. But enough about Joe Cole.


If John Aldridge is to be believed Liverpool could be adding another Cole from Chelsea to their squad in the summer.

That will be solely down to the weekly wage they can offer the p***k.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2011, 01:42:30 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on February 06, 2011, 01:02:51 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2011, 11:10:07 AM
Well today marks the day when the former idol returns to face his old fans in the enemies shirt. Personally I hope he gets a decent reception and the Judas c**t, doesn't get the abuse he'll likely face. However I can understand too the hurt that it can cause especially when he did proclaim his love for the club, and then he ups and leave for just a few pound more. But enough about Joe Cole.


If John Aldridge is to be believed Liverpool could be adding another Cole from Chelsea to their squad in the summer.

That Carlton Cole w***e!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2011, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 06, 2011, 12:08:27 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2011, 11:10:07 AM
Well today marks the day when the former idol returns to face his old fans in the enemies shirt. Personally I hope he gets a decent reception and the Judas c**t, doesn't get the abuse he'll likely face. However I can understand too the hurt that it can cause especially when he did proclaim his love for the club, and then he ups and leave for just a few pound more. But enough about Joe Cole.

Well today will be spikey, and I would say that Liverpool will be really fired up for this today, meaning Chelsea need to reciprocate if they want to get the 3 points they need.

Personally I doubt Torres or Luiz will start, and instead the 11 that started midweek v Sunderland (And played fantastically well) will be back in action today. Indeed CA has already said that Anelka starts.

Should be good crack!

How will Luiz fit in when Alex is fit? & doesn't Torres play best when he's on his own up front

As stated before I don't think we really need Luiz, but I'd expect Ferreria to go in the summer, and that will leave Ivan and Bosingwa for RB and Alex, JT and Luiz for centre back plus Brauma. You need at least 3 experienced centre halfs in your squad.

Torres... Who knows!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: 118cmal on February 06, 2011, 01:48:04 PM
I saw somewhere recently that Ancelotti was considering using Luiz as as a holding midfielder?

No idea how true that is, and don't think he's played there before.  But he's very fast and a good passer, and presumably he can read the game and tackle so perhaps he could do a job there?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2011, 02:01:52 PM
Quote from: 118cmal on February 06, 2011, 01:48:04 PM
I saw somewhere recently that Ancelotti was considering using Luiz as as a holding midfielder?

No idea how true that is, and don't think he's played there before.  But he's very fast and a good passer, and presumably he can read the game and tackle so perhaps he could do a job there?

Didn't read that but I know he's had the odd game there, but I doubt if that'll be the FT position intended for him!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 06, 2011, 05:55:54 PM
I'm surprised Ancelotti didn't play Torres today,any reason why Norf?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Carmen Stateside on February 06, 2011, 05:57:10 PM
Keeping him for Champions league!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: paco on February 06, 2011, 06:20:44 PM
Chelsea should have been spending the cash on a creative midfielder, too reliant on Lampard. John Obi Mikel is the most underwhelming footballer I've ever watched!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 06, 2011, 06:25:25 PM
Chelsea out of the title race now surely? Flat display today, think I would have Malouda in place of Anelka, front 3 are just too similar.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Carmen Stateside on February 06, 2011, 06:28:03 PM
Its clear that it was The Russians signing and not Carlos.
Changing the whole team set up to facilitate Torres along with the other two sulks is never going to work.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: under the bar on February 06, 2011, 07:42:29 PM
I would not say Chelase are out of the race but they porbably need to beat United in both games, win 9 out of the other 11, hope that Arsenal do their usual sh*t the pants in the home run and City just do only what City do best.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 06, 2011, 09:03:24 PM
A few days after what I thought was our best performance in years comes our worst. Shocking. Totally shocking.

I was going to start typing on... but I'll stop. The beer is not my friend!

Well played Liverpool. I don't think the best team won.. as such... but they showed enough heart to deserve the points I'd suggest!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Orangemac on February 07, 2011, 12:11:08 AM
Chelsea should be worrying about qualifying for the Champions league. Premiership is gone this year.

If Ambromivic was giving Ancelloti £50m why were they spending it on the last few hours of deadline day. Would not be surprised to see a new manager in next year.

Surely a right back was more of a pressing concern than another striker? If they wanted Torres why was he not bought last summer?

Chelsea have serious work to do in the summer as the squad is thin and many of the 1st team are over 30.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: gawa316 on February 07, 2011, 09:06:07 AM
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What's more pathetic, copying our banner or leaving the Shankly gates on it?

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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2011, 09:17:04 AM
Quote from: Orangemac on February 07, 2011, 12:11:08 AM
Chelsea should be worrying about qualifying for the Champions league. Premiership is gone this year.

If Ambromivic was giving Ancelloti £50m why were they spending it on the last few hours of deadline day. Would not be surprised to see a new manager in next year.

Surely a right back was more of a pressing concern than another striker? If they wanted Torres why was he not bought last summer?

Chelsea have serious work to do in the summer as the squad is thin and many of the 1st team are over 30.

Cech, Ivanovic, Luiz, Essien, Ramires, Torres, Mikel, Sturridge, MacEacheran, Bosingwa, Zhirkov, Kalou, Alex are all sub 30.

Terry and Cole are 30 and have plently of time left.

Anelka, Drogba, Malouda, Benayoun, Ferreria and Lampard are over 30.

So of the first team squad approx 6 of the 21 are over 30. I'd say the age thing is not applicable but it suits so lets not let facts get in the way!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2011, 09:47:18 AM
I had said all week that Ancellotti would be mad to play Torres, and in hindsight that feeeling was spot on. I felt he was hung out to dry big stlye yesterday. I know people will come back and say 'for £50 million blah, blah, blah', but the fella has had a roller coaster week. Leaving Liverpool, joining Chelsea and becomming the biggest transfer ever. So changing the system and throwing him straight in, against a team that was heavilly motivated yesterday was the wrong thing to do.


In fact the system was so wrong yesterday it was unreal. Liverpool's back 3/5 or whatever were so comfortable as everything went central. To play the diamond at home it requires two full backs bombing forward at will, and neither did that at all yesterday. When that doesn't work you need a midfield operating at a high tempo to push up on Liverpool's defence. Now Lampard and Mikel were poor, but Essien... seriously... when is he going to be dropped? He's been shocking now for the guts of two seasons yet walks into the side week in, week out.

I'll not go overboard about the penalty decisions (There was only one that was a peno, despite SKY suggesting three), as we deserved f**k all anyhow.

The positives? Luiz looks good.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Big Puff on February 07, 2011, 09:59:22 AM
has roman eventually realised you cant buy class?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: nrico2006 on February 07, 2011, 10:36:30 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2011, 09:17:04 AM
Quote from: Orangemac on February 07, 2011, 12:11:08 AM
Chelsea should be worrying about qualifying for the Champions league. Premiership is gone this year.

If Ambromivic was giving Ancelloti £50m why were they spending it on the last few hours of deadline day. Would not be surprised to see a new manager in next year.

Surely a right back was more of a pressing concern than another striker? If they wanted Torres why was he not bought last summer?

Chelsea have serious work to do in the summer as the squad is thin and many of the 1st team are over 30.

Cech, Ivanovic, Luiz, Essien, Ramires, Torres, Mikel, Sturridge, MacEacheran, Bosingwa, Zhirkov, Kalou, Alex are all sub 30.

Terry and Cole are 30 and have plently of time left.

Anelka, Drogba, Malouda, Benayoun, Ferreria and Lampard are over 30.

So of the first team squad approx 6 of the 21 are over 30. I'd say the age thing is not applicable but it suits so lets not let facts get in the way!

Most of the 1st choice starting 11 are over 30 though. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2011, 10:56:57 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 07, 2011, 10:36:30 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2011, 09:17:04 AM
Quote from: Orangemac on February 07, 2011, 12:11:08 AM
Chelsea should be worrying about qualifying for the Champions league. Premiership is gone this year.

If Ambromivic was giving Ancelloti £50m why were they spending it on the last few hours of deadline day. Would not be surprised to see a new manager in next year.

Surely a right back was more of a pressing concern than another striker? If they wanted Torres why was he not bought last summer?

Chelsea have serious work to do in the summer as the squad is thin and many of the 1st team are over 30.

Cech, Ivanovic, Luiz, Essien, Ramires, Torres, Mikel, Sturridge, MacEacheran, Bosingwa, Zhirkov, Kalou, Alex are all sub 30.

Terry and Cole are 30 and have plently of time left.

Anelka, Drogba, Malouda, Benayoun, Ferreria and Lampard are over 30.

So of the first team squad approx 6 of the 21 are over 30. I'd say the age thing is not applicable but it suits so lets not let facts get in the way!

Most of the 1st choice starting 11 are over 30 though.

Yesterday's starting team (Which was virtually full strength) had only 3 plus 30s, admittedly they are all in the area of the field where pace is key, but I don't think it's as big of an issue as people suggest.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 10:57:40 AM
Flo
Sutton
Crespo
Shevchenko
Torres?????
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Big Puff on February 07, 2011, 11:08:20 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 10:57:40 AM
Flo
Sutton
Crespo
Shevchenko
Torres?????

kezman?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 11:10:28 AM
Quote from: Big Puff on February 07, 2011, 11:08:20 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 10:57:40 AM
Flo
Sutton
Crespo
Shevchenko
Torres?????

kezman?

He was so bad I had forgotten him.  Big reputations, big fees, never really delivered.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Bingo on February 07, 2011, 11:15:23 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 11:10:28 AM
Quote from: Big Puff on February 07, 2011, 11:08:20 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 10:57:40 AM
Flo
Sutton
Crespo
Shevchenko
Torres?????

kezman?

He was so bad I had forgotten him.  Big reputations, big fees, never really delivered.

Mutu?

In seriousness though, I have no doubt that Torres can still do it but I can't see him fitting Chelsea's current system. Its just too crowded up top for him and Drogba. Leaving Malouda out was great, as Liverpool never got stretched and the 3 at the back could focus on Torres and Drogba. I'm not sure where Anelka was playing, more of a midfield play making but Lucas was in that position and it took Anelka out of game as well.

I do think Ancelotti has a real headache.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 11:21:12 AM
Quote from: Bingo on February 07, 2011, 11:15:23 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 11:10:28 AM
Quote from: Big Puff on February 07, 2011, 11:08:20 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 10:57:40 AM
Flo
Sutton
Crespo
Shevchenko
Torres?????

kezman?

He was so bad I had forgotten him.  Big reputations, big fees, never really delivered.

Mutu?

In seriousness though, I have no doubt that Torres can still do it but I can't see him fitting Chelsea's current system. Its just too crowded up top for him and Drogba. Leaving Malouda out was great, as Liverpool never got stretched and the 3 at the back could focus on Torres and Drogba. I'm not sure where Anelka was playing, more of a midfield play making but Lucas was in that position and it took Anelka out of game as well.

I do think Ancelotti has a real headache.

Big problems indeed.  He can't leave out his £50m man, and the other two cannot play as support striker.  I reckon that he has to make a choice between Torres and Drogba and Malouda>  Anelka can play on the right of a 3,  Torres as your central striker, Drogba is a central striker only so would be lost on the left as I reckon he and Torres will make the same runs.  For balance ANcelloti has to play Malouda on the left.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2011, 12:14:53 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 11:10:28 AM
Quote from: Big Puff on February 07, 2011, 11:08:20 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 10:57:40 AM
Flo
Sutton
Crespo
Shevchenko
Torres?????

kezman?

He was so bad I had forgotten him.  Big reputations, big fees, never really delivered.

Tell me how much Flo cost, and check his record for Chelsea, and then trying making a point.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 12:24:36 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2011, 12:14:53 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 11:10:28 AM
Quote from: Big Puff on February 07, 2011, 11:08:20 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 10:57:40 AM
Flo
Sutton
Crespo
Shevchenko
Torres?????

kezman?

He was so bad I had forgotten him.  Big reputations, big fees, never really delivered.

Tell me how much Flo cost, and check his record for Chelsea, and then trying making a point.

Small enough money maybe but 1 goal in every 3 1/2 games isn't a great return.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2011, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 12:24:36 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2011, 12:14:53 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 11:10:28 AM
Quote from: Big Puff on February 07, 2011, 11:08:20 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 10:57:40 AM
Flo
Sutton
Crespo
Shevchenko
Torres?????

kezman?

He was so bad I had forgotten him.  Big reputations, big fees, never really delivered.

Tell me how much Flo cost, and check his record for Chelsea, and then trying making a point.

Small enough money maybe but 1 goal in every 3 1/2 games isn't a great return.

Small enough? We bought him for £300,000 he scored in one of every three games, but you haven't considered how many times he was sub. He scored against Barce home and away, twice in the quarter final of the CWC triumph, and he scored against United among many others.

In total he made less than 100 starts and scored 50 goals, and was sold for a £11.7 million profit! That's a success in my book!

In addition, Crespo was a very popular player at SB and still is. His time was mixed but he would've been a big success but for his personal issues, and Mutu the same, except his personal problems were self inflicted. Besides Mutu cost nowt!

The thing in your point is correct, Chelsea has been a graveyard for big money strikers over time. The one you're missing is Robert Fleck. Sutton, Sheva, and Kezman being in there too.

To include Torres after one hour? The fickleness of football fans!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 01:06:03 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2011, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 12:24:36 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2011, 12:14:53 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 11:10:28 AM
Quote from: Big Puff on February 07, 2011, 11:08:20 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 10:57:40 AM
Flo
Sutton
Crespo
Shevchenko
Torres?????

kezman?

He was so bad I had forgotten him.  Big reputations, big fees, never really delivered.

Tell me how much Flo cost, and check his record for Chelsea, and then trying making a point.

Small enough money maybe but 1 goal in every 3 1/2 games isn't a great return.

Small enough? We bought him for £300,000 he scored in one of every three games, but you haven't considered how many times he was sub. He scored against Barce home and away, twice in the quarter final of the CWC triumph, and he scored against United among many others.

In total he made less than 100 starts and scored 50 goals, and was sold for a £11.7 million profit! That's a success in my book!

In addition, Crespo was a very popular player at SB and still is. His time was mixed but he would've been a big success but for his personal issues, and Mutu the same, except his personal problems were self inflicted. Besides Mutu cost nowt!

The thing in your point is correct, Chelsea has been a graveyard for big money strikers over time. The one you're missing is Robert Fleck. Sutton, Sheva, and Kezman being in there too.

To include Torres after one hour? The fickleness of football fans!

Not the fickleness of fans, just enjoying for once in a long time being able to rub it up the opposition ;D  You may be right about Flo in some respect so I will replace him with Mutu and also Casiraghi.  Although the latter's time was destroyed by injury he is in the ultimate footballers graveyard as his career ended there and he was a major investment that never returned anything, £5.4m, 10 games, 1 goal and 2 years worth of ages.  Mutu, may have started in a blaze but burned out very quickly and Chelsea will not see a shilling of the money they are chasing him for and what they are accruing increasing legal bills for because once he is finished in Fiorentina he will beclare himself bankrupt and flee to Romania to live up the side of a moutain in this castle

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Title: Re
Post by: stiffler on February 07, 2011, 01:16:33 PM
How ironic would it be if liverpool displaced chelse in the top 4 this season?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: screenmachine on February 07, 2011, 01:21:43 PM
Is it just me or has everything went to the wall regarding Chelsea ever since Ray Wilkins got the chop. If memory serves me right their recent run of bad form started straight after his dismissal. There seems to be very little spoke of this anywhere really but I feel Wilkins may have had more of an input at Chelsea than what most would believe!
Title: Re: Re
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 01:25:12 PM
Quote from: stiffler on February 07, 2011, 01:16:33 PM
How ironic would it be if liverpool displaced chelse in the top 4 this season?

I can't see it to be honest.  I reckon that 67 points will get 4th this year and to do that liverpool must pick up 29 out of the remaining 36 points available.  Not impossible but the have to play a few toughies.  The good thing is that they have a lot of home games and outside of Arsenal and Sunderland the away games are not too hard, West Ham, West Brom, Fulham and Villa on the last day.  One game at a time though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AZOffaly on February 07, 2011, 01:26:28 PM
True BC. I wouldn't be targetting any specific finish at the moment. Just move on to the next game and try your best to win that. As Bob Paisley used to say, 'look after the little things, and let the big things look after themselves'.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2011, 09:53:14 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 01:06:03 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2011, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 12:24:36 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2011, 12:14:53 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 11:10:28 AM
Quote from: Big Puff on February 07, 2011, 11:08:20 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2011, 10:57:40 AM
Flo
Sutton
Crespo
Shevchenko
Torres?????

kezman?

He was so bad I had forgotten him.  Big reputations, big fees, never really delivered.

Tell me how much Flo cost, and check his record for Chelsea, and then trying making a point.

Small enough money maybe but 1 goal in every 3 1/2 games isn't a great return.

Small enough? We bought him for £300,000 he scored in one of every three games, but you haven't considered how many times he was sub. He scored against Barce home and away, twice in the quarter final of the CWC triumph, and he scored against United among many others.

In total he made less than 100 starts and scored 50 goals, and was sold for a £11.7 million profit! That's a success in my book!

In addition, Crespo was a very popular player at SB and still is. His time was mixed but he would've been a big success but for his personal issues, and Mutu the same, except his personal problems were self inflicted. Besides Mutu cost nowt!

The thing in your point is correct, Chelsea has been a graveyard for big money strikers over time. The one you're missing is Robert Fleck. Sutton, Sheva, and Kezman being in there too.

To include Torres after one hour? The fickleness of football fans!

Not the fickleness of fans, just enjoying for once in a long time being able to rub it up the opposition ;D  You may be right about Flo in some respect so I will replace him with Mutu and also Casiraghi.  Although the latter's time was destroyed by injury he is in the ultimate footballers graveyard as his career ended there and he was a major investment that never returned anything, £5.4m, 10 games, 1 goal and 2 years worth of ages.  Mutu, may have started in a blaze but burned out very quickly and Chelsea will not see a shilling of the money they are chasing him for and what they are accruing increasing legal bills for because once he is finished in Fiorentina he will beclare himself bankrupt and flee to Romania to live up the side of a moutain in this castle

(http://www.brasovtravelguide.ro/imagini/pict/brasov-bran-4.jpg)

Good call re Casiraghi actually. I'd forget about him! Phil Babb will remember his goal better than anyone!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Big Puff on February 07, 2011, 10:04:00 PM
Robert Fleck, mark stein and Tony cascarino are strikers with big reputations who failed at SB

is chelsea a graveyard for big money strikers?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on February 07, 2011, 10:37:41 PM
Quote from: Big Puff on February 07, 2011, 10:04:00 PM
Robert Fleck, mark stein and Tony cascarino are strikers with big reputations who failed at SB

is chelsea a graveyard for big money strikers?

(http://www.gifbin.com/bin/052009/1241699338_drogba-pissed-its-a-disgrace.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2011, 10:40:39 PM
Quote from: Big Puff on February 07, 2011, 10:04:00 PM
Robert Fleck, mark stein and Tony cascarino are strikers with big reputations who failed at SB

is chelsea a graveyard for big money strikers?

Have you not read the last page of this thread?

Mark Stein (63 games/ 25 goals) and broke the premier league record for scoring in consecutive games. Failure? No.

Cascarino, I think came as a swop for Tommy Boyd.. so how do you reckon he came with a big reputation? Geezus. Big Cas did alright. Never set the world on fire, but got a hat-trick against Spurs which is enough to become a hero to Chelsea any day of the week!

If people are going to come on here, and make points, at least back it up with something credible.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: muppet on February 08, 2011, 12:28:10 AM
Quote from: Big Puff on February 07, 2011, 10:04:00 PM
Robert Fleck, mark stein and Tony cascarino are strikers with big reputations who failed at SB

Cascarino was a big striker with a reputation. Different thing altogether!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 10, 2011, 09:43:30 PM
A new 5 1/2 year deal for what I'd call our best player this season, Branislav Ivanovic. Good stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 10, 2011, 10:02:40 PM
Loved him squaring up to Cech on Sunday, Cech shit a brick!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Worker on February 10, 2011, 10:08:41 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on February 10, 2011, 10:02:40 PM
Loved him squaring up to Cech on Sunday, Cech shit a brick!

Once that happened it was clear as day chelsea where there for the taking!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on February 10, 2011, 11:39:36 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on February 10, 2011, 10:02:40 PM
Loved him squaring up to Cech on Sunday, Cech shit a brick!

**warning graphic

http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb324/RedMosquito9/vikingpetr.jpg

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 11, 2011, 12:10:16 AM
Quote from: The Worker on February 10, 2011, 10:08:41 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on February 10, 2011, 10:02:40 PM
Loved him squaring up to Cech on Sunday, Cech shit a brick!

Once that happened it was clear as day chelsea where there for the taking!

Funny.. I thought the opposite. I was wrong.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 11, 2011, 05:00:47 PM
Jeffery Brauma away to Leicster to join Paddy Van Aanholt on loan. Conor Clifford away to Notts County.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 11, 2011, 09:11:17 PM
Through to the last eight of the youth cup again... Chelsea 2 Barnsley 1. The Tykes scored after 18 seconds... and then it was shooty in.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Worker on February 14, 2011, 09:10:01 PM
torres having a shocker here. need the drog on
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on February 14, 2011, 09:32:46 PM
Torres 1st touch was way off tonight i wonder will Drogba score the winner now?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2011, 09:37:56 PM
Such a miss
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 14, 2011, 09:38:41 PM
Quote from: The Worker on February 14, 2011, 09:10:01 PM
torres having a shocker here. need the drog on

I thought he was playing shite just to get away from Liverpool. Turns out he's playing shite no matter where he is.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2011, 09:52:17 PM
oh dear
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ballinaman on February 14, 2011, 09:52:53 PM
This could be massive...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ballinaman on February 14, 2011, 09:54:23 PM
Delighted i sold demsepy off fantasy team now...eejit!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Worker on February 14, 2011, 09:54:28 PM
Chelsea are brutal. no guile.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on February 14, 2011, 09:55:30 PM
jaysus that was some finish to the game
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ballinaman on February 14, 2011, 09:57:15 PM
Hope chelsea beat Everton in the cup now(although both teams are playin muck so you can't be sure)....means the Chelsea United game at the bridge will be put back again, would suit us better.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on February 14, 2011, 09:57:51 PM
Chelsea should have had a penalty, in fairness.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Worker on February 14, 2011, 09:59:11 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 14, 2011, 09:57:15 PM
Hope chelsea beat Everton in the cup now(although both teams are playin muck so you can't be sure)....means the Chelsea United game at the bridge will be put back again, would suit us better.

is it possible for both teams to be knocked out?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: sammymaguire on February 14, 2011, 09:59:21 PM
Has Torres lost it completely?? Looks like a total donkey

Another Shevchenko?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on February 14, 2011, 10:01:12 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 14, 2011, 09:57:15 PM
Hope chelsea beat Everton in the cup now(although both teams are playin muck so you can't be sure)....means the Chelsea United game at the bridge will be put back again, would suit us better.

Yep if Everton win it would mean four away games in a row for United
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on February 14, 2011, 10:07:46 PM
Penalty should have been re-taken as drogba was in the area when taken.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 14, 2011, 10:12:02 PM
Depressing result. Never seen it as I was/ am working so had to settle for 5 Live and text updates.

As someone else said... where's the guile? Dominated the second half, but very little clear cut chances. Crying out for someone who can go wide or someone who can open a defence. Pity we hadn't someone like that on the bench. Wait... Hang on! We do!

Quote from: ross4life on February 14, 2011, 10:07:46 PM
Penalty should have been re-taken as drogba was in the area when taken.

Have you ever said that when United have scored/ missed a penalty? This is a rule that is only enforced when Lampard scores penalties v West Ham as we seen last season. Typical anal comment from yourself though to be fair. Happy Valentine's day.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on February 14, 2011, 10:15:16 PM
Anal comment? rules are rules norf & happy Valentine's day to you.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 14, 2011, 10:34:25 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 14, 2011, 10:15:16 PM
Anal comment? rules are rules norf & happy Valentine's day to you.

Good point. In that case, I'll expect you on the United thread EVERY game asking why Rooney is never booked and sent off for foul and abusive language.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on February 14, 2011, 10:43:52 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 14, 2011, 10:34:25 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 14, 2011, 10:15:16 PM
Anal comment? rules are rules norf & happy Valentine's day to you.

Good point. In that case, I'll expect you on the United thread EVERY game asking why Rooney is never booked and sent off for foul and abusive language.

I'll always comment on what i see & always give a honest opinion on each game (even if you & others beg to differ) btw Mark Hughes & the whole sky team also thought the penalty should have been re-taken maybe you should e-mail them to complain?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on February 14, 2011, 10:44:56 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 14, 2011, 10:43:52 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 14, 2011, 10:34:25 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 14, 2011, 10:15:16 PM
Anal comment? rules are rules norf & happy Valentine's day to you.

Good point. In that case, I'll expect you on the United thread EVERY game asking why Rooney is never booked and sent off for foul and abusive language.

I'll always comment on what i see & always give a honest opinion on each game (even if you & others beg to differ) btw Mark Hughes & the whole sky team also thought the penalty should have been re-taken maybe you should e-mail them to complain?

What is Mark Hughes email address?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 14, 2011, 10:46:40 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 14, 2011, 10:43:52 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 14, 2011, 10:34:25 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 14, 2011, 10:15:16 PM
Anal comment? rules are rules norf & happy Valentine's day to you.

Good point. In that case, I'll expect you on the United thread EVERY game asking why Rooney is never booked and sent off for foul and abusive language.

I'll always comment on what i see & always give a honest opinion on each game
Lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: EC Unique on February 14, 2011, 10:48:18 PM
Ah never mind them Ross. Norf has just realised that Chelsea has no hope of retaining the title. Down to 2 now for sure with Utd strong favorites. Suppose Minder will switch from supporting Chelsea to arsenal now!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Orangemac on February 15, 2011, 12:02:46 AM
It's 2 from 3 now for last 2 CL spots. All 3 have to play each other (I think) and Chelsea have Utd twice so it is going to get interesting.

Would Ambromivic pull plug if no CL next year?

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 15, 2011, 01:48:23 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 14, 2011, 10:48:18 PM
Ah never mind them Ross. Norf has just realised that Chelsea has no hope of retaining the title. Down to 2 now for sure with Utd strong favorites. Suppose Minder will switch from supporting Chelsea to arsenal now!

The differance between SKY and Ross, is that sometimes SKY actually have a point and people subscribe to watch/ listen. Ross on the other hand...

Re the title race where there's life.... :)

Quote from: Orangemac on February 15, 2011, 12:02:46 AM
It's 2 from 3 now for last 2 CL spots. All 3 have to play each other (I think) and Chelsea have Utd twice so it is going to get interesting.

Would Ambromivic pull plug if no CL next year?


People have been stating every week since 2003 that Abromovich is getting bored, going to pull the plug, losing interest etc. Yet here is 8 years later, still investing, still doing his bit. I am sure there are quite a few clubs who'd like their owners to have as little interest as he has!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on February 15, 2011, 02:28:32 AM
Now there's an idea! getting people to subscribe to read my views thanks Norf I'll keep that in mind  :-*


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: under the bar on February 19, 2011, 01:10:28 PM
any decent links for Chelsea v Everton?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Big Puff on February 19, 2011, 01:10:53 PM
Coleman destroying Cole so far! good to see
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Big Puff on February 19, 2011, 03:14:44 PM
Season over?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 19, 2011, 03:16:00 PM
Deserved win for Everton..
That boy Anelka should never be allowed to take a peno again.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 19, 2011, 03:16:17 PM
There's only one Phil Neville!!!! :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Rocky Mc Guigan on February 19, 2011, 03:17:16 PM
Cashley sticks her over the top-now that's what one calls 'karma'
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on February 19, 2011, 03:18:47 PM
Seven penalty shoot outs in a row Chelsea have lost.. why didn't John Terry take one? ohh wait  :-X
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2011, 06:20:06 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 19, 2011, 03:18:47 PM
Seven penalty shoot outs in a row Chelsea have lost.. why didn't John Terry take one? ohh wait  :-X

Seen none of it, and heard little. Are you sure that stat is right? I am sure we won one not so long back.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Geoff Tipps on February 19, 2011, 06:36:54 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2011, 06:20:06 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 19, 2011, 03:18:47 PM
Seven penalty shoot outs in a row Chelsea have lost.. why didn't John Terry take one? ohh wait  :-X

Seen none of it, and heard little. Are you sure that stat is right? I am sure we won one not so long back.

Yes that's wrong. It's 7 from the last 8.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2011, 06:37:45 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2011, 06:20:06 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 19, 2011, 03:18:47 PM
Seven penalty shoot outs in a row Chelsea have lost.. why didn't John Terry take one? ohh wait  :-X

Seen none of it, and heard little. Are you sure that stat is right? I am sure we won one not so long back.

I knew our record was Englandesque, but recall a charity shield victory or something v United that we won on penalties a few years back.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on February 19, 2011, 06:40:44 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2011, 06:37:45 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2011, 06:20:06 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 19, 2011, 03:18:47 PM
Seven penalty shoot outs in a row Chelsea have lost.. why didn't John Terry take one? ohh wait  :-X

Seen none of it, and heard little. Are you sure that stat is right? I am sure we won one not so long back.

I knew our record was Englandesque, but recall a charity shield victory or something v United that we won on penalties a few years back.

ESPN said it yes Chelsea have beaten United in the Community shield on penalties so maybe They probably mean competitive matches?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2011, 06:44:28 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 19, 2011, 06:40:44 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2011, 06:37:45 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2011, 06:20:06 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 19, 2011, 03:18:47 PM
Seven penalty shoot outs in a row Chelsea have lost.. why didn't John Terry take one? ohh wait  :-X

Seen none of it, and heard little. Are you sure that stat is right? I am sure we won one not so long back.

I knew our record was Englandesque, but recall a charity shield victory or something v United that we won on penalties a few years back.

ESPN said it yes Chelsea have beaten United in the Community shield on penalties so maybe They probably mean competitive matches?

It could've waited until after the match on TV Ross!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on February 19, 2011, 07:11:34 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2011, 06:44:28 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 19, 2011, 06:40:44 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2011, 06:37:45 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2011, 06:20:06 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 19, 2011, 03:18:47 PM
Seven penalty shoot outs in a row Chelsea have lost.. why didn't John Terry take one? ohh wait  :-X

Seen none of it, and heard little. Are you sure that stat is right? I am sure we won one not so long back.

I knew our record was Englandesque, but recall a charity shield victory or something v United that we won on penalties a few years back.

ESPN said it yes Chelsea have beaten United in the Community shield on penalties so maybe They probably mean competitive matches?

It could've waited until after the match on TV Ross!

I'm so good at multitasking  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 22, 2011, 06:58:05 PM
Drogba benched....

1 Petr Cech
18 Jose Bosingwa
2 Branislav Ivanovic
26 John Terry (c)
3 Ashley Cole
7 Ramires
5 Michael Essien
8 Frank Lampard
15 Florent Malouda
39 Nicolas Anelka
9 Fernando Torres

Subs: 22 Ross Turnbull, 19 Paulo Ferreira, 17 Yury Zhirkov, 12 John Mikel Obi, 46 Josh McEachran, 21 Salomon Kalou, 11 Didier Drogba

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on February 22, 2011, 09:52:35 PM
Good night for Chelsea with the CL tie done & dusted after the 1st leg & Spurs beaten.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ONeill on February 22, 2011, 10:01:06 PM
Think Chelsea don't play til the Utd game. Anelka in that form could give Manure bother.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on February 22, 2011, 10:05:33 PM
The drought continues for Torres.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 22, 2011, 10:52:42 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 22, 2011, 10:05:33 PM
The drought continues for Torres.

Looked dangerous tonight, but lacking in confidence. A couple of goals and he'll be grand.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 22, 2011, 10:54:13 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 22, 2011, 10:52:42 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 22, 2011, 10:05:33 PM
The drought continues for Torres.

Looked dangerous tonight, but lacking in confidence. A couple of goals and he'll be grand.

Ahhh I remember saying the same thing last August...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: new devil on February 22, 2011, 10:56:21 PM
Yea Torres looked sharp....Nice to see him at a "big" club playing champions league football again
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 23, 2011, 12:14:14 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on February 22, 2011, 10:54:13 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 22, 2011, 10:52:42 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 22, 2011, 10:05:33 PM
The drought continues for Torres.

Looked dangerous tonight, but lacking in confidence. A couple of goals and he'll be grand.

Ahhh I remember saying the same thing last August...

I remember you saying 'this is our year' EVERY August.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: new devil on February 23, 2011, 04:42:58 PM
 :D :D :D Well played NT well played....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on February 23, 2011, 05:28:36 PM
Must be great for NT to have a new lieutenant on this thread.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: supersarsfields on February 23, 2011, 05:50:53 PM
Should help increase the volume of smilies on the thread anyway. Norf just doesn't use half enough.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 23, 2011, 07:36:27 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on February 23, 2011, 05:50:53 PM
Should help increase the volume of smilies on the thread anyway. Norf just doesn't use half enough.

I have not been able to use many  :) recently. Should use them every chance I get!!  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 27, 2011, 10:05:30 AM
I see Ashley Cole taking remedial action for his penalty shot against Everton!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 27, 2011, 10:15:10 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 27, 2011, 10:05:30 AM
I see Ashley Cole taking remedial action for his penalty shot against Everton!

Just reading the full gist of this story. I would've little argument for people calling for him to be sacked for this. At the very least I would suspend him for 4 weeks!

What an arse.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on February 27, 2011, 10:17:02 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 27, 2011, 10:15:10 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 27, 2011, 10:05:30 AM
I see Ashley Cole taking remedial action for his penalty shot against Everton!

Just reading the full gist of this story. I would've little argument for people calling for him to be sacked for this. At the very least I would suspend him for 4 weeks!

What an arse.

What did he do?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: sammymaguire on February 27, 2011, 10:29:07 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 27, 2011, 10:17:02 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 27, 2011, 10:15:10 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 27, 2011, 10:05:30 AM
I see Ashley Cole taking remedial action for his penalty shot against Everton!

Just reading the full gist of this story. I would've little argument for people calling for him to be sacked for this. At the very least I would suspend him for 4 weeks!

What an arse.

What did he do?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/27/ashley-cole-chelsea-air-rifle
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Big Puff on February 27, 2011, 10:35:28 AM
Surprised to see him hit the target
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 28, 2011, 02:06:08 AM
£250,000 fine apparently. Lucky boy.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 02, 2011, 01:48:54 AM
A controversial night at the Bridge but thankfully that early disallowed Torres goal didn't impact the result.

I nearly enjoyed Drogba's five minute piss take as the game pettered out more than the goals!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 02, 2011, 07:26:22 AM
QuoteI nearly enjoyed Drogba's five minute piss take as the game pettered out more than the goals!

+1
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ONeill on March 02, 2011, 09:45:29 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 02, 2011, 01:48:54 AM
A controversial night at the Bridge but thankfully that early disallowed Torres goal didn't impact the result.

I nearly enjoyed Drogba's five minute piss take as the game pettered out more than the goals!

I thought that was fantastic to watch. He wound Utd up so much that Giggs got booked and Vidic the red card. I used to detest the sight of Drogba but he's a gem of a player for Chelsea. He definitely doesn't have the zest of old but can still turn a game.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: gawa316 on March 02, 2011, 09:52:21 AM
Luiz looks a top notch player
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: orangeman on March 02, 2011, 10:28:57 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on March 02, 2011, 09:52:21 AM
Luiz looks a top notch player

Rolls Royce.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on March 02, 2011, 10:56:35 AM
It was a very impressive cameo by Drogba and was just what they needed at the time.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Bingo on March 02, 2011, 11:22:34 AM
Luiz looks a hell of a player alright, plays right in the edge at times. Wouldn't fancy coming up against him and Lucio if playing Brazil but thankfully I'll not have to worry about that!!
He's a bit loose defensively and bombs forward at will but I'm sure Chelsea will be aware of that and have cover in place.

Drogba made a hell of a difference when he came in. His battle with 3 or 4 United players in the corner at the end in injury time was serious stuff from him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on March 02, 2011, 05:00:00 PM
After all the records Chelsea broke last year there are on the verge of another one this season!
One more defeat will mean they have the record for the most defeats by the defending champions in PL history.

As for Drogba playing out time last night is he also playing out time on his Chelsea career?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on March 02, 2011, 05:02:23 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 02, 2011, 05:00:00 PM
After all the records Chelsea broke last year there are on the verge of another one this season!
One more defeat will mean they have the record for the most defeats by the defending champions in PL history.

As for Drogba playing out time last night is he also playing out time on his Chelsea career?

I doubt it.  He remains a very important player for Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: isourboydownyet on March 02, 2011, 05:29:49 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on March 02, 2011, 09:52:21 AM
Luiz looks a top notch player

looks like the real deal,could turn out to be a massive bargain
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on March 02, 2011, 06:16:15 PM
The wanderer returns........
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 02, 2011, 10:57:42 PM
Chelsea into FA youth cup last four....

Geezus boys it's a virtual production line down there now!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Olly on March 03, 2011, 03:11:34 PM
http://coleofduty.com/
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on March 03, 2011, 05:12:56 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 02, 2011, 06:16:15 PM
The wanderer returns........

Eh? i don't think he ever left us http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=2835
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 07, 2011, 04:22:54 PM
Whoever thought an away trip to Blackpool would be a 'big' game back in August!? Chelsea need the points badly to cement the Champion's League qualification.

Without tempting fate, Chelsea's problems this season has been breaking teams down. However Blackpool's cavilier attitude might help Chelsea tonight. Luiz is a big doubt which is a disapointment, but I'd expect Torres and Drogba to link up tonight, with Anelka 'rested'. Zhirkov will be pushng Malouda hard for the start too.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on March 07, 2011, 04:42:53 PM
Bonus to Chelsea that DJ & Adam are both missing, I fancy Torres to get off the mark tonight.

Is Alex back yet?

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on March 07, 2011, 04:45:02 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 07, 2011, 04:42:53 PM
Bonus to Chelsea that DJ & Adam are both missing, I fancy Torres to get off the mark tonight.

Is Alex back yet?

Still refusing to speak to the media.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on March 07, 2011, 04:49:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 07, 2011, 04:45:02 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 07, 2011, 04:42:53 PM
Bonus to Chelsea that DJ & Adam are both missing, I fancy Torres to get off the mark tonight.

Is Alex back yet?

Still refusing to speak to the media.

Your a little confused? that would be Sir Alex  :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 07, 2011, 04:53:11 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 07, 2011, 04:42:53 PM
Bonus to Chelsea that DJ & Adam are both missing, I fancy Torres to get off the mark tonight.

Is Alex back yet?

The two boys absence is definately a bonus, but Holloway's a seaky faker.

No Alex yet, still a few weeks away. Benayoun in light training and hopefully back for the end of the month.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on March 07, 2011, 04:59:11 PM
Will be interesting to see how the Chelsea back four line up when everyone is fit & i see Ivanovic is few yellows away from a two game ban so Alex may take his place.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AZOffaly on March 07, 2011, 05:02:46 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 07, 2011, 04:59:11 PM
Will be interesting to see how the Chelsea back four line up when everyone is fit & i see Ivanovic is few yellows away from a two game ban so Alex may take his place.

When does the amnesty kick in?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 07, 2011, 05:03:05 PM
Adam & Campbell both suspended tonight so they are out for sure.
Chelsea are 15/8 minus 2 goals, I am lumping on that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AZOffaly on March 07, 2011, 09:33:19 PM
Lads, seriously what is wrong with Torres? I was convinced he wanted away from Anfield, and that explained his appalling body language, but he's at it again there tonight, even in a comfortable night for Chelsea. He looks like he doesn't want to play soccer any more. I've just watched Kalou make a great run into the box, and Torres made absolutely no effort to make a run across the centre back.

It's quite disappointing watching him, as I think he's a great striker, but he just doesn't look 'at it' at all.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on March 07, 2011, 09:54:18 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on March 07, 2011, 05:03:05 PM
Adam & Campbell both suspended tonight so they are out for sure.
Chelsea are 15/8 minus 2 goals, I am lumping on that.

That was a bit of a kick in the balls Doogie.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on March 07, 2011, 09:56:00 PM
Had 10€ on 3-1 Chelsea win  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 07, 2011, 09:56:20 PM
Jose f**king Bosingwa!! Had the winnings already spent too!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 07, 2011, 09:57:57 PM
Poor. Unprofessional. Whatever the word is for unruthless (Maybe that's it), but 3 points.

As for Torres. Previously I thought lacking in confidence, needs to settle, it'll come.

Tonight, he hid, and didn't work hard enough. I thought he came off at the end barely breaking a sweat! As AZ stated a few balls went into the box, and he hung back instead of attacking the near post. Worrying.

However a wee bit of breathing space in the battle for 4th.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: sammymaguire on March 07, 2011, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 07, 2011, 09:56:00 PM
Had 10€ on 3-1 Chelsea win  ;D

What price did you get Ross? I did it too
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AZOffaly on March 07, 2011, 10:01:09 PM
That's it Norf. Work. He didn't work. I remember when he was going well at Anfield, he'd be bursting himself closing down the opposition as they passed the ball around at the back, and he'd force a lot of turnovers, like Rushie in his prime. The Anfield crowd loved it.

Tonight (and in his last while at Anfield) I saw him pretending to close people down. Jogging to the man with the ball, etc. You got it in a nutshell, appetite for work.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on March 07, 2011, 10:02:05 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on March 07, 2011, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 07, 2011, 09:56:00 PM
Had 10€ on 3-1 Chelsea win  ;D

What price did you get Ross? I did it too

10/1 what odds did you get?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: new devil on March 07, 2011, 10:05:21 PM
Chelsea aren't going to be far away and I honesty think they will win the league playing well at the right time were united just aren't..although united having played well all year they aren't getting that bit of luck they had been getting through out the year
Do you think Chelsea are out with a few big shout NT?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: sammymaguire on March 07, 2011, 10:07:33 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 07, 2011, 10:02:05 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on March 07, 2011, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 07, 2011, 09:56:00 PM
Had 10€ on 3-1 Chelsea win  ;D

What price did you get Ross? I did it too

10/1 what odds did you get?

12/1 with Coral. Could only see Chelsea win all night long, had HT/FT, -1 and over 2.5, the correct score was just a bully's special prize bet, so pleased with a good night's work.

Oh, had Lamps as first scorer too  >:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 07, 2011, 10:09:27 PM
I definitely think when you look at Torres still and at Saurez and the potential of Carroll then Liverpool did a serious bit of good business. Torres will score goals but at £50m you would expect him to be bursting a gut for you. Seeing as Liverpool can't get 4th I would like to see CSKA London start putting pressure on Slur Alex and hopefully they will lose points, don't care who else wins so long as they don't get to 19!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Big Puff on March 07, 2011, 10:13:16 PM
Quote from: new devil on March 07, 2011, 10:05:21 PM
Chelsea aren't going to be far away and I honesty think they will win the league playing well at the right time were united just aren't..although united having played well all year they aren't getting that bit of luck they had been getting through out the year
Do you think Chelsea are out with a few big shout NT?

true about the luck going against united recently, but these things tend to balance out over a course of a season, and i reckon utd are due a bit more bad luck before end of may.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 07, 2011, 10:31:42 PM
Quote from: new devil on March 07, 2011, 10:05:21 PM
Chelsea aren't going to be far away and I honesty think they will win the league playing well at the right time were united just aren't..although united having played well all year they aren't getting that bit of luck they had been getting through out the year
Do you think Chelsea are out with a few big shout NT?

You live in hope, but I think we have to go to United and win as well as basically play out the remaining games without error.

Previously I would've thought that a good possability. However this year we have not been as clinical as previous years, we are still scratching around looking for a formation and too many players not quite on form. Just not enough things tipping in the balance at present.

However.... you just never know.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 07, 2011, 11:25:30 PM
Not sure what the problem with Torres is. I thought his poor performances over the last 12 months at Liverpool were just down to wanting out of the club but obviously there's more to it than that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2011, 08:45:03 AM
Breaking news in Brazil this evening suggests that long-term youth target Lucas Piazon has agreed to join Chelsea from Sao Paulo when he turns 18, for a reported fee of €10m.

The website "Lance!net" initially reported that the teenager, currently playing for Brazil in the South American Under-17 Championships, will join the Blues ahead of competition such as Juventus, who were believed to have agreed a deal to sign him earlier this year.

The news has since been confirmed by Sao Paulo themselves.

Touted as 'the new Kaka', Piazon was initially linked with a move to West London two years ago as a fifteen year-old, and has since gone on to impress in Sao Paulo's youth teams.

He is set to travel to England at the end of the current international tournament for medical tests and to sign paperwork, before arriving at the end of the year after turning 18, in line with FIFA laws.


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: laoislad on March 16, 2011, 09:47:57 AM
Hope he doesn't get homesick like a certain 50mill pound guy...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: laoislad on March 16, 2011, 10:10:14 AM
(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1329/kuytkenny.jpg) (http://img577.imageshack.us/i/kuytkenny.jpg/)

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2011, 02:25:20 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 16, 2011, 09:47:57 AM
Hope he doesn't get homesick like a certain 50mill pound guy...

Chelsea have arranged for a couple of guys to ransack his home and hold his family at knife point while he's at the CL game tonight to make him feel like he's back on Merseyside.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Bingo on March 16, 2011, 02:36:02 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2011, 02:25:20 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 16, 2011, 09:47:57 AM
Hope he doesn't get homesick like a certain 50mill pound guy...

Chelsea have arranged for a couple of guys to ransack his home and hold his family at knife point while he's at the CL game tonight to make him feel like he's back on Merseyside.

Could be worse, John Terry could be calling round to help the missus settle in and Ashley calling round to play games with the kids....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2011, 04:03:41 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 16, 2011, 02:36:02 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2011, 02:25:20 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 16, 2011, 09:47:57 AM
Hope he doesn't get homesick like a certain 50mill pound guy...

Chelsea have arranged for a couple of guys to ransack his home and hold his family at knife point while he's at the CL game tonight to make him feel like he's back on Merseyside.

Could be worse, John Terry could be calling round to help the missus settle in and Ashley calling round to play games with the kids....

Cracker. That must be that famous Scouse wit.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: gawa316 on March 16, 2011, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2011, 04:03:41 PM

Cracker. That must be that famous Scouse wit.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrite
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2011, 04:44:53 PM
F**k yous are tetchy today. Is it nerves before the big Thursday night game?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2011, 04:49:28 PM
Going to be an empty Bridge tonight as Chelsea f**ked up selling the tickets. A lot of fans protesting at the prices.

Probably a good thing in the long run!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Boycey on March 16, 2011, 04:53:47 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2011, 04:49:28 PM
Going to be an empty Bridge tonight as Chelsea f**ked up selling the tickets. A lot of fans protesting at the prices.

Probably a good thing in the long run!

Nothing at all to do with most of them being Johnny come lately gloryhunters then?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2011, 04:55:55 PM
Quote from: Boycey on March 16, 2011, 04:53:47 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2011, 04:49:28 PM
Going to be an empty Bridge tonight as Chelsea f**ked up selling the tickets. A lot of fans protesting at the prices.

Probably a good thing in the long run!

Nothing all at to do with most of them being Johnny come lately gloryhunters then?

From a Manc???  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Bingo on March 16, 2011, 05:10:11 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2011, 04:03:41 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 16, 2011, 02:36:02 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2011, 02:25:20 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 16, 2011, 09:47:57 AM
Hope he doesn't get homesick like a certain 50mill pound guy...

Chelsea have arranged for a couple of guys to ransack his home and hold his family at knife point while he's at the CL game tonight to make him feel like he's back on Merseyside.

Could be worse, John Terry could be calling round to help the missus settle in and Ashley calling round to play games with the kids....

Cracker. That must be that famous Scouse wit.

In fairness your Cockney charm was top drawer.

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2011, 04:49:28 PM
Going to be an empty Bridge tonight as Chelsea f**ked up selling the tickets. A lot of fans protesting at the prices.

Probably a good thing in the long run!

Its shocking all right, apparently Chelsea haven't ordered enough plastic flags, so they won't be available. They were guarantee'd as part of the ticket price and chelsea fans aren't having it. Rumours that the Headhunters are reforming and going to kick off tonight are as yet unconfirmed.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2011, 07:22:03 PM
Meanwhile in the big boys world.

Torres 'rested' tonight. I'd of thought that a goal was what he needed as opposed to a rest. Tonight would've been an opportune time me thinks.

Ancellotti certainly could manage Torres better. What happens if Anelka and Drogba bag a couple tonight? What does he do for Sunday?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on March 20, 2011, 05:55:33 PM
MASSIVE result for us today.

Get in.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2011, 06:00:28 PM
Outstanding, they are on a roll. Can they really catch Arsenal and Utd?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on March 20, 2011, 06:01:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2011, 06:00:28 PM
Outstanding, they are on a roll. Can they really catch Arsenal and Utd?

We will certainly try.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: laoislad on March 20, 2011, 06:05:59 PM
Fernando gets subbed then Chelsea score twice,can he claim an assist?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on March 20, 2011, 06:08:10 PM
LOL Minder has already given up on Arsenal! now what did i say back in Feb?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Boycey on March 20, 2011, 06:11:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 20, 2011, 05:55:33 PM
MASSIVE result for us today.

Get in.

The MASSIVES were beaten 2-0 ???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on March 20, 2011, 08:15:26 PM
Ancelotti to leave at the end of the season, regardless of results. Allegedly.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: EC Unique on March 20, 2011, 09:23:29 PM
Arselona will be gutted to have lost you minder...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: laoislad on March 20, 2011, 09:50:52 PM
Is calling Arsenal 'Arselona' suppose to be funny?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ONeill on March 21, 2011, 12:01:54 AM
Chelsea are contenders. They'll go to Old Trafford in some shape if they keep this up.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 22, 2011, 11:31:06 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 21, 2011, 12:01:54 AM
Chelsea are contenders. They'll go to Old Trafford in some shape if they keep this up.

Sorry for only posting this now. In Ross stylee I was busy at the match all weekend, meeting Vialli, Desailly and... Sean Wright Phillips.

I would agree that Chelsea are contenders, all bar the fact we've no-one up front on form. That rules us out I'd suggest.

Oh... and David Luiz is a legend. F**king mad, and a liability.... but a legend! I've never seen a player settle as a 'fan's favourite' so quickly!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: new devil on March 23, 2011, 10:16:41 AM
Really? A legend after being there a month? Guess Chelsea are short on legends!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 28, 2011, 03:43:40 PM
The Premier League has announced two more Chelsea games will be moved for live television coverage.

Our trip to Manchester United will now take place on Sunday, May 8 with a 4.10pm kick-off, taking place a day later than originally scheduled.


Rumours abounding about;
> Mourinho back to the Bridge this summer.
> Chelsea to announce a new stadium soon.
> Neymar has signed a pre contract for £35 million to Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 02, 2011, 05:25:49 PM
Excellent and exiting game there. I think the woodwork was hit 5 times and all, some decent saves and a few misses. Neither time with one eye on their upcoming cup games.

However Chelsea were definately on top but Ancellotti made the very strange decision of subbing Ramires!! As soon as Rama went off Stoke dominated the midfield and could've nicked it.

Not sure how neither Lampard or Essien survived the hook in front of him.

Torres looked much brighter today when he came on, and if Ramires had of stayed on he would've seen much more action.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 06, 2011, 01:31:45 PM
Well a bit of a tense night in store no doubt. Will Sally and Kev sort out this scratch card malarky? Will Jimmy get his memory back? All this and there is a match on tonight as well.

It'll be interesting to see what team Chelsea put out tonight. I haven't a clue what the strongest 11 is at the minute, and worryingly I don't think Ancellotti has either.

The back 5 picks itself with Alex still not fit, and Luiz cup-tied. Ivan will go alongside Terry with Bosingwa coming in at right back.

The midfield is where the problems start. Essien has been MIA for 18 months, and Lamps has been just alright. Bar those two, Ramires has astually been holding the midfield together since Christmas, as emphasised by his subbing, and Stoke's asscendancy on Saturday. The emphasis is very much on Essien to get his ass in gear.

Up front. Who knows! Malouda definately does not deserve a start on form basis, but he will. Personally I'd give Zhirkov a start ahead of him. I'd put Torres through the centre with Anelka roaming. If it works great. If it doesn't, Drogba is ready to be let out of the cage for the last 30 minutes or so which has been an affective tactic against the two Manchester games recently. Kalou has also looked dangerous recently, but Sala is a good sub. He rarely produces when he starts.

As for Torres. He looked as sharp as I seen him, during the glimpses he got the ball on Saturday. He has obviously underwhelemed so far, but in his defence the players around him are in terrible form at the minute. Lampard, Essien, Malouda and Drogba have all been below par, with Anelka being so, so. It would be interesting to see what Torres would be like if a couple of those players clicked.

Should be a long night, and I only pray for three things.

1. Firstly that the ref has a good game. Too often in Europe the ref has been the story against Chelsea, Barcelona (H and A), Monaco (H), and United (Moscow) being among several times where the ref has had a major bearing on the result. Indeed many Chelsea regulars have become very disinterested in the CL over the last few years due to this.
2. That Chelsea win. Obviously.
3. Taht Jimmy kicks that Kelly wan into touch.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: supersarsfields on April 06, 2011, 01:43:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 06, 2011, 01:31:45 PM
Well a bit of a tense night in store no doubt. Will Sally and Kev sort out this scratch card malarky? Will Jimmy get his memory back? All this and there is a match on tonight as well.

It'll be interesting to see what team Chelsea put out tonight. I haven't a clue what the strongest 11 is at the minute, and worryingly I don't think Ancellotti has either.

The back 5 picks itself with Alex still not fit, and Luiz cup-tied. Ivan will go alongside Terry with Bosingwa coming in at right back.

The midfield is where the problems start. Essien has been MIA for 18 months, and Lamps has been just alright. Bar those two, Ramires has astually been holding the midfield together since Christmas, as emphasised by his subbing, and Stoke's asscendancy on Saturday. The emphasis is very much on Essien to get his ass in gear.

Up front. Who knows! Malouda definately does not deserve a start on form basis, but he will. Personally I'd give Zhirkov a start ahead of him. I'd put Torres through the centre with Anelka roaming. If it works great. If it doesn't, Drogba is ready to be let out of the cage for the last 30 minutes or so which has been an affective tactic against the two Manchester games recently. Kalou has also looked dangerous recently, but Sala is a good sub. He rarely produces when he starts.

As for Torres. He looked as sharp as I seen him, during the glimpses he got the ball on Saturday. He has obviously underwhelemed so far, but in his defence the players around him are in terrible form at the minute. Lampard, Essien, Malouda and Drogba have all been below par, with Anelka being so, so. It would be interesting to see what Torres would be like if a couple of those players clicked.

Should be a long night, and I only pray for three things.

1. Firstly that the ref has a good game. Too often in Europe the ref has been the story against Chelsea, Barcelona (H and A), Monaco (H), and United (Moscow) being among several times where the ref has had a major bearing on the result. Indeed many Chelsea regulars have become very disinterested in the CL over the last few years due to this.
2. That Chelsea win. Obviously.
3. Taht Jimmy kicks that Kelly wan into touch.

No harm Norf that's complete bullshit.

Why would he get rid of Kelly . Lose that other Mongoose!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AQMP on April 06, 2011, 03:22:24 PM
Not starting mind games here for I truly believe Man Utd will win the tie comfortably.  Score draw tonight and a win at OT (for MU) would be my bet. Norf is right, too many of Chelsea's "big" players are all over the shop at the minute and Torres is nothing short of a liability.  On current form (and for the last 18 months) he wouldn't get a game for Accrington Stanley Reserves.  Maybe knowing that the league is all over bar the shouting they'll give it a lash.  I note on other forums people are talking up a Chelsea v R Madrid final...crazy!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 06, 2011, 09:47:02 PM
Quote1. Firstly that the ref has a good game. Too often in Europe the ref has been the story against Chelsea, Barcelona (H and A), Monaco (H), and United (Moscow) being among several times where the ref has had a major bearing on the result. Indeed many Chelsea regulars have become very disinterested in the CL over the last few years due to this

:-X
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 06, 2011, 09:48:56 PM
Chelsea have no energy or pace in the middle now, too leggy in a crucial area, bad sign when Carrick outplays his opponents.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 06, 2011, 09:49:45 PM
Poor old Norf will have to go back on the valium again. That was as clear a penalty and red card that you'll ever see.

Combine that with having paid 50M for that moody fecker up front as well.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Dave on April 06, 2011, 09:53:00 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 06, 2011, 09:49:45 PM
Poor old Norf will have to go back on the valium again. That was as clear a penalty and red card that you'll ever see.

Combine that with having paid 50M for that moody fecker up front as well.

They'll be lucky to get 15mill for him in the summer..
Deal of the century for Liverpool FC.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: 118cmal on April 06, 2011, 10:03:03 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 06, 2011, 09:53:00 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 06, 2011, 09:49:45 PM
Poor old Norf will have to go back on the valium again. That was as clear a penalty and red card that you'll ever see.

Combine that with having paid 50M for that moody fecker up front as well.

They'll be lucky to get 15mill for him in the summer..
Deal of the century for Liverpool FC.
Quote from: Dave on April 06, 2011, 09:53:00 PM


Not much point in getting 50m when you spend 35m on Andy Ponytail Carroll  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on April 06, 2011, 10:16:27 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 06, 2011, 01:31:45 PM


Should be a long night, and I only pray for three things.

1. Firstly that the ref has a good game. Too often in Europe the ref has been the story against Chelsea, Barcelona (H and A), Monaco (H), and United (Moscow) being among several times where the ref has had a major bearing on the result. Indeed many Chelsea regulars have become very disinterested in the CL over the last few years due to this.
2. That Chelsea win. Obviously.
3. Taht Jimmy kicks that Kelly wan into touch.

2nd time you have mentioned this, u'll have to explain this bit to me? was it when Drogba got sent off (if you raise your hands it's a clear sending off every time) or when the ref failed to send off Terry for blowing his nose on the back of tevez neck (if terry got sent off he wouldn't have taken that penalty)

Anyways the better team won tonight but i wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea win in OT

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: new devil on April 06, 2011, 10:24:36 PM
Fulham spent 150 thousand on there plastic statue Chelsea spent 50 million on theirs !!  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Rocky Mc Guigan on April 06, 2011, 10:59:48 PM
Ones club is in a bad situation when ones owner is dictating who should be taken off and brought on
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 12:53:55 AM
Pleeeease tell me Jimmy got his memory back??  ;D


Quote from: Rocky Mc Guigan on April 06, 2011, 10:59:48 PM
Ones club is in a bad situation when ones owner is dictating who should be taken off and brought on

Wha?

And Rossie... Surely you watched the 2008 CL final?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 01:09:26 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 12:53:55 AM
Pleeeease tell me Jimmy got his memory back??  ;D


Quote from: Rocky Mc Guigan on April 06, 2011, 10:59:48 PM
Ones club is in a bad situation when ones owner is dictating who should be taken off and brought on

Wha?

And Rossie... Surely you watched the 2008 CL final?

Yes. did i miss a ghost goal or something?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 01:16:00 AM
Quote from: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 01:09:26 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 12:53:55 AM
Pleeeease tell me Jimmy got his memory back??  ;D


Quote from: Rocky Mc Guigan on April 06, 2011, 10:59:48 PM
Ones club is in a bad situation when ones owner is dictating who should be taken off and brought on

Wha?

And Rossie... Surely you watched the 2008 CL final?

Yes. did i miss a ghost goal or something?

Rio Ferdinand escaping a clear second yellow card? Have you forgotten already?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 01:23:00 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 01:16:00 AM
Quote from: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 01:09:26 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 12:53:55 AM
Pleeeease tell me Jimmy got his memory back??  ;D


Quote from: Rocky Mc Guigan on April 06, 2011, 10:59:48 PM
Ones club is in a bad situation when ones owner is dictating who should be taken off and brought on

Wha?

And Rossie... Surely you watched the 2008 CL final?

Yes. did i miss a ghost goal or something?

Rio Ferdinand escaping a clear second yellow card? Have you forgotten already?

You don't always get sent off for two/three fouls you know? Torres,Essien proved that tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 01:25:47 AM
Quote from: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 01:23:00 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 01:16:00 AM
Quote from: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 01:09:26 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 12:53:55 AM
Pleeeease tell me Jimmy got his memory back??  ;D


Quote from: Rocky Mc Guigan on April 06, 2011, 10:59:48 PM
Ones club is in a bad situation when ones owner is dictating who should be taken off and brought on

Wha?

And Rossie... Surely you watched the 2008 CL final?

Yes. did i miss a ghost goal or something?

Rio Ferdinand escaping a clear second yellow card? Have you forgotten already?

You don't always get sent off you two/three fouls you know? Torres,Essien proved that tonight.

Your right. It all depends if it was a yellow card offence. It was... if not a straight red. However don't mention the Rio incident, nor the Macheda hand ball. Don't speak of. IF it's never spoke of, it never happened.Shuuushh.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 01:34:30 AM
Macheda hand ball or the ref using common sense with Rio in 08 really made a difference like? Drogba getting himself sent off & Terry's penalty miss are closer to the mark & you wouldn't want to blame any of those guys.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: new devil on April 07, 2011, 02:09:23 AM
Norf you having give you usual honest run down of the game?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 08:00:36 AM
Quote from: new devil on April 07, 2011, 02:09:23 AM
Norf you having give you usual honest run down of the game?

I was surprised to be able to type two words together last night to be honest!!

I sat down last night and just hoped my viewing wouldn't be ruined by an official. However true to form it was a Spanish official that made the shocking decision last night. Does Cesca not know that Jonah is underage? I mean sleeping with the fella is one thing, but then eloping to Gretna Green! What was she doing?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: nrico2006 on April 07, 2011, 09:06:33 AM
Quote from: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 01:23:00 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 01:16:00 AM
Quote from: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 01:09:26 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 12:53:55 AM
Pleeeease tell me Jimmy got his memory back??  ;D


Quote from: Rocky Mc Guigan on April 06, 2011, 10:59:48 PM
Ones club is in a bad situation when ones owner is dictating who should be taken off and brought on

Wha?

And Rossie... Surely you watched the 2008 CL final?

Yes. did i miss a ghost goal or something?

Rio Ferdinand escaping a clear second yellow card? Have you forgotten already?

You don't always get sent off for two/three fouls you know? Torres,Essien proved that tonight.

And Ramires.  What the hell did Chelsea buy him for, offers nothing.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AQMP on April 07, 2011, 09:10:04 AM
Quote from: new devil on April 07, 2011, 02:09:23 AM
Norf you having give you usual honest run down of the game?

Norf might still be in shock so I'll give it a go...Chelsea are dung at the moment.  :-\

I couldn't believe how casual Chelsea were in the first 20 mins, trying little flicks instead of giving a simple 5m pass.  The number of times they gave away the ball in midfield was astonishing.  Still stand by what I said about Torres yesterday.  However I think part of the problem is that Chelsea fanny about too much for a player like Torres.  When he was good it was because L'pool got the ball to him quickly in space allowing him to use his pace.  By the time Chelsea get the ball to him he has 3 or 4 defenders between him and the goal and he's never been the sort of player who'll beat a couple of men and score.

Yes it was a penalty but Man Utd were the better team and deserved to win although Lampard should have buried that chance just before half time.  Looking at the bigger picture I would worry about either of those two teams going up against Barca or RM (or even Schalke!)

Last words...Ryan Giggs...what a player!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 10:15:01 AM
Strange sort of a game last night. Chelsea were poor in patches and just alright in others.

The passing last night from Chelsea was incredible. Incredibley poor. I can't believe the passing stats from UEFA showed that Chelsea had greater accuracy! The problems again are paramount in two places- as per Norf's CL preview- right back and midfield.

Bosingwa has been poor this season, but was even worse last night. In his defence- not a word he'd be comfortable with- he was alright going forward and put in a peach of a cross in the first half that deserved someone coming onto. However defensivelly he is a liability. Exhibit one being the goal.

The second major is the middle of the field. Chelsea have had a 3 man midfield for 6 or 7 years, and it worked. A holding midfielder (Makalele, Mikel etc), an engine (Essien) and a goalscorer (Lampard). What have we seen since Torres came? A change to 4-4-2.

Hence there is no holding player. Note Rooney's goal in the league and last night, and see how he exploited the space between the lines of four. Sometimes Mikel appears not to contribute, but he fills gaps well and protects the back four.
In the absence of the holiding midfielder, Lampard is lost. He hasn't got that energy anymore that'll bomb him up and down the pitch, add in the additional responsabilities and you negate the goals and threat that he brings.
As for Essien. Anything circa £10million and he can go tomorrow. I've said it contless times on here. He has been awful for 18 months. However some players NEVER get dropped.

Where United won the game last night was with their workrate and tackling. They never let Chelsea settle in the midfield or at the back at all.

That takes us to Ramires. I think he is going to be a class act for Chelsea. Can't believe Nrico's assesment of him to be honest. He was one of the few players to emerge with credit last night (JT and Ivan the others). Good in the first half- playing out of position-, and when they took Bosingwa off last night, and moved Essien to right half back with Ramires going central, Chelsea really took over. That's not a coincidence.

With the midfield doing little, you need something creative out wide. Zhirkov filled Malouda's boots perfectly last night. He did nothing. In truth Drogba and Torres weren't that bad. The created some good chances by themselves, but are being let down by those around them.

Saying all that, Chelsea did deserve at least a draw. VDS got man of the match in several papers this morning, with 2 or 3 excellent saves. Match that with the penalty incident (What the f**k does the guys behind the goal do!!), the post, Ramires' header, the ball off the line and the fact that United produced little bar the goal, and a cross that Hernandez nearly got something on and you get the picture.

On to Old Trafford, and Chelsea's favourite ground!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Bingo on April 07, 2011, 10:16:07 AM
Totally unimpressed by Chelsea again, no urgency, no spirit, no creativity - much like Liverpool under Roy. At least we have spirit now.

What is the story with Frank Lampard, seen him in a few games recently and to me he just adds nothing to the team. His passing is short and safe, which is fine but not when you are the creative outlet in midfield. He always scored goals and this made him very effective but these goals have dried up and he is offering very little to the team. Very slow and the one chance he got he missed, cleared off the line but should have been buried.

Get the feeling that there will be a massive clear out at Chelsea in the summer.

Best not even to mention Torres but at least he forced a couple of saves last night.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 10:28:14 AM
Quote from: Bingo on April 07, 2011, 10:16:07 AM
Totally unimpressed by Chelsea again, no urgency, no spirit, no creativity - much like Liverpool under Roy. At least we have spirit now.

What is the story with Frank Lampard, seen him in a few games recently and to me he just adds nothing to the team. His passing is short and safe, which is fine but not when you are the creative outlet in midfield. He always scored goals and this made him very effective but these goals have dried up and he is offering very little to the team. Very slow and the one chance he got he missed, cleared off the line but should have been buried.

Get the feeling that there will be a massive clear out at Chelsea in the summer.

Best not even to mention Torres but at least he forced a couple of saves last night.

The last bit in bold is very applicable.

I've a feeling there will be a clear out too. Bosingwa, Ferreria, and Drogba for a start.

There may not even be the need for any buys with those 3 gone, but they do need width.

Benayoun coming back will help with the creativity problem!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 03:11:36 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 07, 2011, 09:10:04 AM
Quote from: new devil on April 07, 2011, 02:09:23 AM
Norf you having give you usual honest run down of the game?

Man Utd were the better team and deserved to win

Very honest opinion Quinn martin i respect that.

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 10:15:01 AM

Saying all that, Chelsea did deserve at least a draw. VDS got man of the match in several papers this morning, with 2 or 3 excellent saves. Match that with the penalty incident

With Chelsea at home & the midfield United started with last night i was expecting VDS to be overworked but that wasn't the case.. yes he made a excellent save from Torres header but the others were routine saves & btw most the reports i read (including UEFA) had Carrick MOTM believe it or not.

It's your opinion of course if you think Chelsea deserved a draw but if they play like that in OT Chelsea will be beaten again.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 03:20:01 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 03:11:36 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 07, 2011, 09:10:04 AM
Quote from: new devil on April 07, 2011, 02:09:23 AM
Norf you having give you usual honest run down of the game?

Man Utd were the better team and deserved to win

Very honest opinion Quinn martin i respect that.

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 10:15:01 AM

Saying all that, Chelsea did deserve at least a draw. VDS got man of the match in several papers this morning, with 2 or 3 excellent saves. Match that with the penalty incident

With Chelsea at home & the midfield United started with last night i was expecting VDS to be overworked but that wasn't the case.. yes he made a excellent save from Torres header but the others were routine saves & btw most the reports i read (including UEFA) had Carrick MOTM believe it or not.

It's your opinion of course if you think Chelsea deserved a draw but if they play like that in OT Chelsea will be beaten again.

The fact that you think Chelsea deserved to lose merely strengthens my argument. Thanks.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 03:29:02 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 03:20:01 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 03:11:36 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 07, 2011, 09:10:04 AM
Quote from: new devil on April 07, 2011, 02:09:23 AM
Norf you having give you usual honest run down of the game?

Man Utd were the better team and deserved to win

Very honest opinion Quinn martin i respect that.

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 10:15:01 AM

Saying all that, Chelsea did deserve at least a draw. VDS got man of the match in several papers this morning, with 2 or 3 excellent saves. Match that with the penalty incident

With Chelsea at home & the midfield United started with last night i was expecting VDS to be overworked but that wasn't the case.. yes he made a excellent save from Torres header but the others were routine saves & btw most the reports i read (including UEFA) had Carrick MOTM believe it or not.

It's your opinion of course if you think Chelsea deserved a draw but if they play like that in OT Chelsea will be beaten again.

The fact that you think Chelsea deserved to lose merely strengthens my argument. Thanks.

I'm not surprised you think Chelsea deserved a draw last night, you also thought they deserved a draw in this game http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/9385584.stm

Very similar games but the match stats might strengthen your argument.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 03:31:35 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 03:29:02 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 03:20:01 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 03:11:36 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 07, 2011, 09:10:04 AM
Quote from: new devil on April 07, 2011, 02:09:23 AM
Norf you having give you usual honest run down of the game?

Man Utd were the better team and deserved to win

Very honest opinion Quinn martin i respect that.

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 10:15:01 AM

Saying all that, Chelsea did deserve at least a draw. VDS got man of the match in several papers this morning, with 2 or 3 excellent saves. Match that with the penalty incident

With Chelsea at home & the midfield United started with last night i was expecting VDS to be overworked but that wasn't the case.. yes he made a excellent save from Torres header but the others were routine saves & btw most the reports i read (including UEFA) had Carrick MOTM believe it or not.

It's your opinion of course if you think Chelsea deserved a draw but if they play like that in OT Chelsea will be beaten again.

The fact that you think Chelsea deserved to lose merely strengthens my argument. Thanks.

I'm not surprised you think Chelsea deserved a draw last night, you also thought they deserved a draw in this game http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/9385584.stm

Very similar games but the match stats might strengthen your argument.

Did I say Chelsea deserved a draw v Liverpool?

If I did it probably would've been emotive, as they didn't (I think).

Secondly... How do you remember what I said about a game a few months back???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 03:35:21 PM
I remember at the time you got RLL knickers in a twist so you must have?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 03:36:50 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 03:35:21 PM
I remember at the time you got RLL knickers in a twist so you must have?

There we go then. If you remember it, it must be true.

Funny you 'remember' that, but you don't remember Rio Ferdinand's indiscretion in the CL final!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Worker on April 07, 2011, 03:38:42 PM
Norf- can you rename this thread ' Ross4Life makes a tit of himself thread'
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 03:39:41 PM
Quote from: The Worker on April 07, 2011, 03:38:42 PM
Norf- can you rename this thread ' Ross4Life makes a tit of himself thread'

Cheap coming from you  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 03:40:37 PM
Quote from: The Worker on April 07, 2011, 03:38:42 PM
Norf- can you rename this thread ' Ross4Life makes a tit of himself thread'

You get banned for multiple threads for the same topic.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 03:44:20 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2011, 03:40:37 PM
Quote from: The Worker on April 07, 2011, 03:38:42 PM
Norf- can you rename this thread ' Ross4Life makes a tit of himself thread'

You get banned for multiple threads for the same topic.

Poor Norf you would think the U21 success last night or the sunny weather today would cheer you up?

To quote maureen "Chin up"
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Dave on April 07, 2011, 04:22:23 PM
Quote from: The Worker on April 07, 2011, 03:38:42 PM
Norf- can you rename this thread ' Ross4Life makes a tit of himself thread'

Is there any thread in which he doesn't?
Does anyone take this spoofer seriously?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on April 07, 2011, 04:29:02 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 07, 2011, 04:22:23 PM
Quote from: The Worker on April 07, 2011, 03:38:42 PM
Norf- can you rename this thread ' Ross4Life makes a tit of himself thread'

Is there any thread in which he doesn't?
Does anyone take this spoofer seriously?

Obsessed much?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Orangemac on April 07, 2011, 11:24:51 PM
If Chelsea wanted to win the Cl this year their best hope was to pay £50m for a striker who hasn't played well in 18 months and £20m for a centre back who is cup tied.Oh wait.

Is Torres the new Shevchenko or even Michael Owen? Best part of career up to 26 or so.

Incidentally what does £30m get you nowadays. Dzeko, Balotelli, Torres, Carroll (ok early days).

Suddenly Beckord doesn't seem so bad.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AQMP on April 08, 2011, 09:36:47 AM
Quote from: Orangemac on April 07, 2011, 11:24:51 PM
If Chelsea wanted to win the Cl this year their best hope was to pay £50m for a striker who hasn't played well in 18 months and £20m for a centre back who is cup tied.Oh wait.

Is Torres the new Shevchenko or even Michael Owen? Best part of career up to 26 or so.

Incidentally what does £30m get you nowadays. Dzeko, Balotelli, Torres, Carroll (ok early days).

Suddenly Beckord doesn't seem so bad.

Hang on, I was with you there up until the "Beckford not bad" bit! ;)

Also a bit unfair on Shevchenko there.  He was almost 30 when he joined Chelsea.  He actually scored 14 goals in 51 games for Chelsea (roughly 1 every 3.5 games) though most of these came in Cup competitions and his league record wasn't great.  Also he missed a fair bit of one season through injury.  Not quite the player Chelsea thought they were buying but not quite the flop he's perceived to be (IMHO) and over his total career a brilliant footballer.  He's back with Dinamo Kiev and still knocking in the goals there at nearly 35.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AQMP on April 08, 2011, 10:05:19 AM
Please Roman think twice about buying this eejit!

Fresh from the racism that never was, Neymar scores for Santos then gets a second yellow card for wearing a mask of his own face as part of the goal celebration!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHgnY5S_9gI
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: paco on April 08, 2011, 10:22:25 AM
From what I've seen of him (which isn't much to be fair), Neymar looks a class act. He reminds me of a young Aguero making fools of opposition when he was at Independiente.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: nrico2006 on April 08, 2011, 10:50:15 AM
I have said it before that I think Torres will never return to the player that he was 2/3 years ago, injuries have caught up with him and he has lost his greatest asset - his blistering speed.  I still think he will score a few goals but not enough to justify £50 million.

As already mentioned, the big shock (and relief to United fans) was seeing Drogba go off, the man looked really sharp and was the biggest threat Chelsea had.  The number of times he was backed into a corner and still managed to turn and skin a United defender was unbelievable, and his overhead kick effort was sublime.  I still think Ramires is dung, he looks like Shaun Wright-Philips' granda and really doesn't offer much in the middle IMO.  Essien used to be unbelievable, a powerful force in the middle with the added weapon of being able to bang in 25 yarders quite frequently, but he does not seem to be the same player the past season or two.  What has happened Malouda, is he off form or has he been injured?  He was great for Chelsea for the first few months of the season.  Lampard is sadly coming to the end, he is coming 33 but the high number of games he has played over the years are finally catching up on him.

Why are the Chelsea management so afraid to drop some of their 'stars' and try the like of Josh McEachran or Kakuta?  It will give the younger players a chance, and maybe stir the fire in the belly of the older players.  If it doesn't work then they can always substitute, but they need to take that risk a bit more and freshen things up.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 08, 2011, 12:10:29 PM
Quote from: Orangemac on April 07, 2011, 11:24:51 PM
If Chelsea wanted to win the Cl this year their best hope was to pay £50m for a striker who hasn't played well in 18 months and £20m for a centre back who is cup tied.Oh wait.

Is Torres the new Shevchenko or even Michael Owen? Best part of career up to 26 or so.

Incidentally what does £30m get you nowadays. Dzeko, Balotelli, Torres, Carroll (ok early days).

Suddenly Beckord doesn't seem so bad.

What should they have done? Waited until the summer for Man City/ Real etc to nap Luiz before them?

Quote from: AQMP on April 08, 2011, 10:05:19 AM
Please Roman think twice about buying this eejit!

Fresh from the racism that never was, Neymar scores for Santos then gets a second yellow card for wearing a mask of his own face as part of the goal celebration!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHgnY5S_9gI


Was the racism thing not a thing that 'was'? It just wasn't a Scot that threw it, which is something Neymar would not have known at the time?

Quote from: nrico2006 on April 08, 2011, 10:50:15 AM
I have said it before that I think Torres will never return to the player that he was 2/3 years ago, injuries have caught up with him and he has lost his greatest asset - his blistering speed.  I still think he will score a few goals but not enough to justify £50 million.

As already mentioned, the big shock (and relief to United fans) was seeing Drogba go off, the man looked really sharp and was the biggest threat Chelsea had.  The number of times he was backed into a corner and still managed to turn and skin a United defender was unbelievable, and his overhead kick effort was sublime.  I still think Ramires is dung, he looks like Shaun Wright-Philips' granda and really doesn't offer much in the middle IMO.  Essien used to be unbelievable, a powerful force in the middle with the added weapon of being able to bang in 25 yarders quite frequently, but he does not seem to be the same player the past season or two.  What has happened Malouda, is he off form or has he been injured?  He was great for Chelsea for the first few months of the season.  Lampard is sadly coming to the end, he is coming 33 but the high number of games he has played over the years are finally catching up on him.

Why are the Chelsea management so afraid to drop some of their 'stars' and try the like of Josh McEachran or Kakuta?  It will give the younger players a chance, and maybe stir the fire in the belly of the older players.  If it doesn't work then they can always substitute, but they need to take that risk a bit more and freshen things up.

I know we've already made the point, but Ramires looks like an excellent buy to me, and many on Chelsea forums think he is their POTY from Christmas onwards!

The last paragraph is a fair point. I've said numerous times that players- Essien especially- are getting picked on reputation. MacEacheran may not quite be the answer at the minute, but he's certainly closer to the answer than Essien has been this year.

Not sure if Lampard's coming to the end or not. Lampard's career at Chelsea can be landmarked by formations. When Chelsea play 3 in the middle he excels at what he does. Playing him in a two is the wrong move at any time. However couple this with the limbs losing a bit AND the fact that he's doing midfield on his own and you definately negate his strengths.

I'd love next Tues to see 4-3-3. Cech, Cole, Terry, Alex, Ivanovic, Mikel (Holding) with Ramires and Lampard, Malouda or Zhirkov on the left, Torres or Drogba up front and Benayoun on the right.
The personal ain't overly important. The formation is.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 09, 2011, 02:16:47 PM
Would today be a good opportunity for Torres to 'break his duck'? Of course.

So he's on the bench with JT rested!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 09, 2011, 02:19:26 PM
Cech, Cole, Luiz, Ivan, Paulo, Mikel, Lampard, Ramires, Malouda, Drogba, Anelka!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 10, 2011, 10:39:30 AM
One of the big stories on Monday, spun around many of the main broadsheet and tabloid papers, was the reported spat between Didier Drogba and a Chelsea fan.

It sounded so tasty.

Rory Smith, Telegraph: "Didier Drogba dragged off the pitch after row with
Chelsea fan following the draw at Stoke - Didier Drogba had to be forcibly
removed from the Britannia Stadium pitch after becoming embroiled in a
heated row with one of his own fans following Chelsea's draw with Stoke. As
words were exchanged, Chelsea team-mate Paulo Ferreira intervened to usher a
furious Drogba down the tunnel and away from an unseemly spat."


Ivan Speck, Daily Mail: "Didier Drogba was involved in an angry
confrontation with a Chelsea supporter at the end of his side's 1-1 draw at
Stoke on Saturday. The striker was heckled by the fan after taking a short
corner in the final seconds instead of knocking the ball directly into the
penalty area. Drogba reacted furiously and at the final whistle was still
engaging the spectator in an ugly argument as the rest of the players shook
hands. The incident was indicative of the frustration Drogba is clearly
still feeling after an indifferent season."


Tim Rich, Independent: "The rage burning inside Didier Drogba as he was
ushered down the tunnel by Paulo Ferreira suggested that this was no warm-up
for the main event at Stamford Bridge in two days' time. The striker with a
boxer's build squared up to his questioner as the final whistle went and had
to be led away."


For a while it seemed like that was that. Another tale of the stroppy Ivorian striker losing his rag. But now eye-witness footage from the incident has been released on YouTube and yet another media farce can be shown to be complete bollocks.

The video captures the whole event.

It starts with Drogba heading towards the tunnel before a booming voice distracts him over the the Chelsea supporters. Then we see how a perfectly un-raged Drogba tried to calm things down by asking the fan to come speak to him. The clip closes with the Ivorian not being ushered down the tunnel by Paulo Ferreira, but rather the defender just put his arm around his teammate as they walked away from the situation.


But why let a few facts get in the way of a good story.


http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/didier-drogba-versus-the-chelsea-fan-8952661/
(http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/didier-drogba-versus-the-chelsea-fan-8952661/)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: laoislad on April 10, 2011, 11:09:41 AM
What starting 11 do you think Abramovich will go with Tuesday night Norf? I'd say Torres will start.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 10, 2011, 01:19:48 PM
Oh ah...Nathan Chalobah!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 11, 2011, 03:42:07 PM
This thread was very quiet on Saturday after the ref gifted Chelsea 3 points against Wigan  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 11, 2011, 04:40:02 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on April 11, 2011, 03:42:07 PM
This thread was very quiet on Saturday after the ref gifted Chelsea 3 points against Wigan  :P

The Villa thread has been very quiet. Full stop.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 11, 2011, 05:25:51 PM
A wee bit of a lift yesterday, it is never quiet with me  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 11, 2011, 09:25:32 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on April 11, 2011, 05:25:51 PM
A wee bit of a lift yesterday, it is never quiet with me  ;)

I hear you were leaping around the bar on Sat when Malouda scored, as it was points off your big rivals for the drop!  :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 11, 2011, 09:30:52 PM
Heading to VP for Wigan match next month, hoping for the same generosity that you got! Just remembered I owe you a tenner ;-)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 11, 2011, 11:31:47 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on April 11, 2011, 09:30:52 PM
Heading to VP for Wigan match next month, hoping for the same generosity that you got! Just remembered I owe you a tenner ;-)

NP.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Dave on April 12, 2011, 09:54:21 PM
Chelsea are like Arsenal..they haven't the balls.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 12, 2011, 10:54:26 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 12, 2011, 09:54:21 PM
Chelsea are like Arsenal..they haven't the balls.

That's right. The double holders have no balls.  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: new devil on April 13, 2011, 03:09:59 AM
Quote from: Dave on April 12, 2011, 09:54:21 PM
Chelsea are like Arsenal..they haven't the balls.

You really are a waste of a person Dave!!

Hard luck Norf think we deserved it over the 2 legs, Yous had some big misses tonight just like last week and i'm just glad Drogba didn't start because again he caused all sort of problems, Torres was shit again and Chelsea will have to change a lot of things around in the summer to suite him for next season...Do you think he was Rom buy?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 13, 2011, 10:25:05 AM
Quote from: new devil on April 13, 2011, 03:09:59 AM
Quote from: Dave on April 12, 2011, 09:54:21 PM
Chelsea are like Arsenal..they haven't the balls.

You really are a waste of a person Dave!!

Hard luck Norf think we deserved it over the 2 legs, Yous had some big misses tonight just like last week and i'm just glad Drogba didn't start because again he caused all sort of problems, Torres was shit again and Chelsea will have to change a lot of things around in the summer to suite him for next season...Do you think he was Rom buy?

Ta.

People speculate about Rom buys when they don't work out. They never say 'geez Luiz and Ramires have been tremendous finds by Roman' nor 'Fair play to Abramovich for master minding the double'. In fact Abromovitch is probably the most quoted man who I've never heard speak!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Bingo on April 13, 2011, 10:38:06 AM
Norf,

Was disappointed last night with Chelsea but I'm sure not as much as you were! Thought it was set up for a grand stand finish but not to be.

But anyways, I'd still have an eye on Torres and of course have fond memories of him. I've been shocked though at how poor he has been. He was bad before he left liverpool but at least he was getting the odd goal.

What happens him now? Just get him to the end of the season and start afresh next season with new manager and new players onboard. At 50m he's too expensive to disgard. When he was in his prime at LFC the team played to his strengths - one up top. Can Chelsea justify a spending spree to play to his strengths or do they need to go back to the drawing board?

I'd be off opinion that a club with the ambitions of chelsea shouldn't be building a squad to suit one player and they'll need different options.

On the plus size at least he has stayed fit and injury free since he joined.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 13, 2011, 10:41:29 AM
Quote from: Bingo on April 13, 2011, 10:38:06 AM
Norf,

Was disappointed last night with Chelsea but I'm sure not as much as you were! Thought it was set up for a grand stand finish but not to be.

But anyways, I'd still have an eye on Torres and of course have fond memories of him. I've been shocked though at how poor he has been. He was bad before he left liverpool but at least he was getting the odd goal.

What happens him now? Just get him to the end of the season and start afresh next season with new manager and new players onboard. At 50m he's too expensive to disgard. When he was in his prime at LFC the team played to his strengths - one up top. Can Chelsea justify a spending spree to play to his strengths or do they need to go back to the drawing board?

I'd be off opinion that a club with the ambitions of chelsea shouldn't be building a squad to suit one player and they'll need different options.

On the plus size at least he has stayed fit and injury free since he joined.
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Chelsea either have a very good medical/training staff ir he is a bluffer.  I reckon he is a bit of a bluffer when it come to injuries. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Carmen Stateside on April 13, 2011, 10:44:24 AM
Hope he enjoys all the medals he won by going to Chelsea. At least hes having great craic!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 13, 2011, 10:45:51 AM
Quote from: Bingo on April 13, 2011, 10:38:06 AM
Norf,

Was disappointed last night with Chelsea but I'm sure not as much as you were! Thought it was set up for a grand stand finish but not to be.

But anyways, I'd still have an eye on Torres and of course have fond memories of him. I've been shocked though at how poor he has been. He was bad before he left liverpool but at least he was getting the odd goal.

What happens him now? Just get him to the end of the season and start afresh next season with new manager and new players onboard. At 50m he's too expensive to disgard. When he was in his prime at LFC the team played to his strengths - one up top. Can Chelsea justify a spending spree to play to his strengths or do they need to go back to the drawing board?

I'd be off opinion that a club with the ambitions of chelsea shouldn't be building a squad to suit one player and they'll need different options.

On the plus size at least he has stayed fit and injury free since he joined.

It's all questions that need answered Bingo. The one 'hope' is that a summer's rest will help him. There was a great article in the paper yesterday that showed how Torres got his goals (I'll try and dig it out) that basically said that almost half his goals came from through balls- the like of Gerard would have played.

However that's been one major issue with Chelsea this year in that their build up play has been too ponderous.

I do think they will have to build a team around Torres, and the one bright point of that is that Sturridge is of similar ilk so he may be able to fit in there as well OR play alongside him. Both players have pace in abundence.

Chelsea will need to drop/ sell Essien, and play Lampard more sparingly, and inject some pace and an eye for a pass. MacEacheran is the best passer at the club and I'd like to see him feature more.

However I'll chat about the rest of the squad later. Not in the mood today!

Quote from: Carmen Stateside on April 13, 2011, 10:44:24 AM
Hope he enjoys all the medals he won by going to Chelsea. At least hes having great craic!

I'd say he maybe left Liverpool as he hated working Thursday nights.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AZOffaly on April 13, 2011, 10:49:39 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 13, 2011, 10:45:51 AM

I'd say he maybe left Liverpool as he hated working Thursday nights.

Touché. :D

Although it appears he dislikes working Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Saturdays and Sundays at the moment. And maybe if he did his work on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, he wouldn't have had to work on Thursdays.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 13, 2011, 10:50:54 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 13, 2011, 10:49:39 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 13, 2011, 10:45:51 AM

I'd say he maybe left Liverpool as he hated working Thursday nights.

Touché. :D

Although it appears he dislikes working Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Saturdays and Sundays at the moment. And maybe if he did his work on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, he wouldn't have had to work on Thursdays.

If he had've worked Saturdays and Sundays he wouldn't have to work Thursdays you mean!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Bingo on April 13, 2011, 10:58:48 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 13, 2011, 10:50:54 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 13, 2011, 10:49:39 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 13, 2011, 10:45:51 AM

I'd say he maybe left Liverpool as he hated working Thursday nights.

Touché. :D

Although it appears he dislikes working Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Saturdays and Sundays at the moment. And maybe if he did his work on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, he wouldn't have had to work on Thursdays.

If he had've worked Saturdays and Sundays he wouldn't have to work Thursdays you mean!

The same whore dodged most of the Thursday nights as well  ;D

Its going to be a tough one for Chelsea. First things first, I'd have little doubts that they'll be looking a new manager. They were super last year and started this season the same, you'd be a brave man to back against them winning the league in early part of the season. Since Wilkins left its all gone wrong, I'd wonder if this had a big impact and has even ancelloti lost interest sonce then, as his team seem to have.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 13, 2011, 11:04:07 AM
Quote from: Bingo on April 13, 2011, 10:58:48 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 13, 2011, 10:50:54 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 13, 2011, 10:49:39 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 13, 2011, 10:45:51 AM

I'd say he maybe left Liverpool as he hated working Thursday nights.

Touché. :D

Although it appears he dislikes working Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Saturdays and Sundays at the moment. And maybe if he did his work on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, he wouldn't have had to work on Thursdays.

If he had've worked Saturdays and Sundays he wouldn't have to work Thursdays you mean!

The same whore dodged most of the Thursday nights as well  ;D

Its going to be a tough one for Chelsea. First things first, I'd have little doubts that they'll be looking a new manager. They were super last year and started this season the same, you'd be a brave man to back against them winning the league in early part of the season. Since Wilkins left its all gone wrong, I'd wonder if this had a big impact and has even ancelloti lost interest sonce then, as his team seem to have.


If Wilkins was the genius he is made out to have been, why is he making a fool of himself working for SKY, and he is making a fool of himself if you watched the Spurs game last week. He's a nice guy, a decent coach, nothing more.

The manager question's a strange one. We need someone in who can rebuild a team, and it doesn't need the radical overhaul people think. Luiz, Ramires, Ivanovic, Paizon, Alex, Mikel, Sturridge, Torres (!) MacEacheran etc. The spine is already there.

Can CA rebuild a squad?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 13, 2011, 11:07:08 AM
Surprised at some of the more reasoned Liverpool supporters having a pop at Torres, he is a fantastic player and factors that seem to be ignored are

1. World Cup year and lack of pre-season, there is no doubt in my mind he is not as fit as he should have been
2. Burden of expectation, £50m is lot of money
3. Did not arrive at Chelsea in form, primarliy due to point 1 and playing for a side that had lost belief in it's ideals and it's manager
4. Thrown in at deep end, not his fault that Drogba and Anelka also were going through a bad spell and CA had to try something to ignite his faltering team..

So it was a gamble that failed but with a proper pre-season where he can get to grips with systems and build player relationships the kid will come good, pound for pound Chelsea have the best starting XI in the EPL and with some astue signings I can see this Chelsea side dominating the EPL next season with one Fernando Torres leading from the front...

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Denn Forever on April 13, 2011, 11:08:06 AM
Ray Wilkins?

Terrible Pundit but was he the straw that scuppered ye this year?  Wheel seemed to come off after he left.

Or is that just something that an outsider would think?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 13, 2011, 11:12:48 AM
Wilkins said last night that Torres was targetted by Ancelotti from last summer.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AZOffaly on April 13, 2011, 11:21:56 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 13, 2011, 10:50:54 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 13, 2011, 10:49:39 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 13, 2011, 10:45:51 AM

I'd say he maybe left Liverpool as he hated working Thursday nights.

Touché. :D

Although it appears he dislikes working Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Saturdays and Sundays at the moment. And maybe if he did his work on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, he wouldn't have had to work on Thursdays.

If he had've worked Saturdays and Sundays he wouldn't have to work Thursdays you mean!

True, and last year when they got knocked out in the Group Stages, Tuesday and Wednesday.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Bingo on April 13, 2011, 11:24:19 AM
I'd agree re Wilkins as a commentator, as an analysis after a match he not too bad. Spurs V Madrid was like a comedy!

Dinny, no one really having a pop at Torres, just questioning his form and desire. I don't think any of your points hold much water. Realistically he's been in this form for almost two seasons. Alright in and out of fitness may be a factor but he was always allowed time to recover and get right, he's been playing now for months and if anytime should be as fit as anyone at this stage. Obviously his confidence is at rock bottom but having watched him for last few seasons he gives off the impression he just isn't happy playing football.

I thought Torres would come back to himself ie early days with LFC but that seems a long time ago. His one game of note this year was against Chelsea at Anfield and that was it this season. I still think he'll come good but not near 50m good.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 13, 2011, 11:30:53 AM
QuoteAlright in and out of fitness may be a factor but he was always allowed time to recover and get right, he's been playing now for months and if anytime should be as fit as anyone at this stage. Obviously his confidence is at rock bottom but having watched him for last few seasons he gives off the impression he just isn't happy playing football.

It's a bit of a myth that you can get your fitness by playing games, he needs a proper pre-season. I read an article about Barca recently and how they plan their pre-season and mini-pre-season are all about peaking in November/December and April/May hence why they were tiring towards the end of games and they were there for the taking by Arsenal in February (will see if I can dig it out). I remember Henry when he joined the Arse and how brutal he was but as he got more comfortable with what was expected well the rest his history. Torres can be that Henry for Chelsea imho.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AZOffaly on April 13, 2011, 11:41:38 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 13, 2011, 11:30:53 AM
QuoteAlright in and out of fitness may be a factor but he was always allowed time to recover and get right, he's been playing now for months and if anytime should be as fit as anyone at this stage. Obviously his confidence is at rock bottom but having watched him for last few seasons he gives off the impression he just isn't happy playing football.

It's a bit of a myth that you can get your fitness by playing games, he needs a proper pre-season. I read an article about Barca recently and how they plan their pre-season and mini-pre-season are all about peaking in November/December and April/May hence why they were tiring towards the end of games and they were there for the taking by Arsenal in February (will see if I can dig it out). I remember Henry when he joined the Arse and how brutal he was but as he got more comfortable with what was expected well the rest his history. Torres can be that Henry for Chelsea imho.

Correct. But what worries me about Torres is the lack of desire to make the runs. If he was making them and not getting there, I'd say he's tired/unfit/not ready. But he is not trying to make runs across defenders, not trying to get to the ball, etc etc. There were some brutal examples there in one game I was watching, and I couldn't believe it. That should be 1st and second nature to a striker.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 13, 2011, 11:57:03 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 13, 2011, 11:07:08 AM
Surprised at some of the more reasoned Liverpool supporters having a pop at Torres, he is a fantastic player and factors that seem to be ignored are

1. World Cup year and lack of pre-season, there is no doubt in my mind he is not as fit as he should have been
2. Burden of expectation, £50m is lot of money
3. Did not arrive at Chelsea in form, primarliy due to point 1 and playing for a side that had lost belief in it's ideals and it's manager
4. Thrown in at deep end, not his fault that Drogba and Anelka also were going through a bad spell and CA had to try something to ignite his faltering team..

So it was a gamble that failed but with a proper pre-season where he can get to grips with systems and build player relationships the kid will come good, pound for pound Chelsea have the best starting XI in the EPL and with some astue signings I can see this Chelsea side dominating the EPL next season with one Fernando Torres leading from the front...



Just having a bit of fun Dinny, we have nothing else to entertain us for the rest of the year apart from having cheap shots!  On his whole form he seemes to be playing just the exact same way as he was in the last few months with Liverpool, disinterested, lethargic, lazy in fact.  I don't think he has settled in as well as he would have hoped and I would think that Didier is a very big presence over his shoulder.  Much will depend on who is manager next season and also who are the available strikers.  I could see both Anelka and Drogba being moved on for younger similar models to come in, who can work on a relationship with Torres.  3 very big egos pushing for one spot at the minute and in the long run there will only be one winner.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 13, 2011, 11:59:52 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 13, 2011, 11:41:38 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 13, 2011, 11:30:53 AM
QuoteAlright in and out of fitness may be a factor but he was always allowed time to recover and get right, he's been playing now for months and if anytime should be as fit as anyone at this stage. Obviously his confidence is at rock bottom but having watched him for last few seasons he gives off the impression he just isn't happy playing football.

It's a bit of a myth that you can get your fitness by playing games, he needs a proper pre-season. I read an article about Barca recently and how they plan their pre-season and mini-pre-season are all about peaking in November/December and April/May hence why they were tiring towards the end of games and they were there for the taking by Arsenal in February (will see if I can dig it out). I remember Henry when he joined the Arse and how brutal he was but as he got more comfortable with what was expected well the rest his history. Torres can be that Henry for Chelsea imho.

Correct. But what worries me about Torres is the lack of desire to make the runs. If he was making them and not getting there, I'd say he's tired/unfit/not ready. But he is not trying to make runs across defenders, not trying to get to the ball, etc etc. There were some brutal examples there in one game I was watching, and I couldn't believe it. That should be 1st and second nature to a striker.

I think some of Dinny's points are fair, and there is some theory in the fact that Torres is struggling with the shadow of Drogba and to a lesser degree Anelka. To me Drogba will have to go, but then the pressure is on FT to get the goals Drogba got. No easy task.

AZ your point re the runs. He has made some runs that Chelsea had not the intelligence to pick out. However there are other times when he should've been in better places. Last week Bosingwa put in a classic cross across goal and Torres was on the back foot and not charging in. There was a PL game too where he went missing a few weeks back, and didn't even appear to want to get into places, but I too can't remember the game.

Some mature commentary here. Wait til the weins get out of school.

As I went to post I see BC1 has made similar points to my first paragraph there.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Bingo on April 13, 2011, 12:11:14 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 13, 2011, 11:30:53 AM
QuoteAlright in and out of fitness may be a factor but he was always allowed time to recover and get right, he's been playing now for months and if anytime should be as fit as anyone at this stage. Obviously his confidence is at rock bottom but having watched him for last few seasons he gives off the impression he just isn't happy playing football.

It's a bit of a myth that you can get your fitness by playing games, he needs a proper pre-season. I read an article about Barca recently and how they plan their pre-season and mini-pre-season are all about peaking in November/December and April/May hence why they were tiring towards the end of games and they were there for the taking by Arsenal in February (will see if I can dig it out). I remember Henry when he joined the Arse and how brutal he was but as he got more comfortable with what was expected well the rest his history. Torres can be that Henry for Chelsea imho.

What age was Henry when he joined Arse and was it not a question of a total change of a position that revitalised him? Winger to striker? Torres not have that luxury and was bought to score goals and has just turned 27, what was his last big move in his prime years.

I would say maybe his fitness not what it could be or sharpness at the very least but I;d be of opinion, sharpness only comes with matches and he's had them. I think he is holding back and maybe he is scared for opening up fully - getting further injuries or knocks. I remember when he joined LFC he played in a Carling cup game v Reading, got kicked round the field, scored a hatrick and a star was born. In his LFC years he was known for taking the kicks, sticking his leg in and getting on with it. That seems to have disappeared with the injuries.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: JUst retired on April 13, 2011, 12:14:44 PM
Fulham paid £125.000 for a plastic statue, Chelski paid £50 million for theirs, which one has more life? ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 13, 2011, 12:21:32 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on April 13, 2011, 12:14:44 PM
Fulham paid £125.000 for a plastic statue, Chelski paid £50 million for theirs, which one has more life? ;D

Ha ha. That's a cracker. Noah predicts rain.

Quote from: Bingo on April 13, 2011, 12:11:14 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 13, 2011, 11:30:53 AM
QuoteAlright in and out of fitness may be a factor but he was always allowed time to recover and get right, he's been playing now for months and if anytime should be as fit as anyone at this stage. Obviously his confidence is at rock bottom but having watched him for last few seasons he gives off the impression he just isn't happy playing football.

It's a bit of a myth that you can get your fitness by playing games, he needs a proper pre-season. I read an article about Barca recently and how they plan their pre-season and mini-pre-season are all about peaking in November/December and April/May hence why they were tiring towards the end of games and they were there for the taking by Arsenal in February (will see if I can dig it out). I remember Henry when he joined the Arse and how brutal he was but as he got more comfortable with what was expected well the rest his history. Torres can be that Henry for Chelsea imho.

What age was Henry when he joined Arse and was it not a question of a total change of a position that revitalised him? Winger to striker? Torres not have that luxury and was bought to score goals and has just turned 27, what was his last big move in his prime years.

I would say maybe his fitness not what it could be or sharpness at the very least but I;d be of opinion, sharpness only comes with matches and he's had them. I think he is holding back and maybe he is scared for opening up fully - getting further injuries or knocks. I remember when he joined LFC he played in a Carling cup game v Reading, got kicked round the field, scored a hatrick and a star was born. In his LFC years he was known for taking the kicks, sticking his leg in and getting on with it. That seems to have disappeared with the injuries.

In FT's defence, and I am running out here. He has been given very few 90 minute run outs. Plus he has been badly managed. Should never have played against Liverpool, and should've been given more time and/ or starts against so called weaker opposition to get him up and running.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Bingo on April 13, 2011, 12:27:30 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 13, 2011, 12:21:32 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on April 13, 2011, 12:14:44 PM
Fulham paid £125.000 for a plastic statue, Chelski paid £50 million for theirs, which one has more life? ;D

Ha ha. That's a cracker. Noah predicts rain.

Quote from: Bingo on April 13, 2011, 12:11:14 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 13, 2011, 11:30:53 AM
QuoteAlright in and out of fitness may be a factor but he was always allowed time to recover and get right, he's been playing now for months and if anytime should be as fit as anyone at this stage. Obviously his confidence is at rock bottom but having watched him for last few seasons he gives off the impression he just isn't happy playing football.

It's a bit of a myth that you can get your fitness by playing games, he needs a proper pre-season. I read an article about Barca recently and how they plan their pre-season and mini-pre-season are all about peaking in November/December and April/May hence why they were tiring towards the end of games and they were there for the taking by Arsenal in February (will see if I can dig it out). I remember Henry when he joined the Arse and how brutal he was but as he got more comfortable with what was expected well the rest his history. Torres can be that Henry for Chelsea imho.

What age was Henry when he joined Arse and was it not a question of a total change of a position that revitalised him? Winger to striker? Torres not have that luxury and was bought to score goals and has just turned 27, what was his last big move in his prime years.

I would say maybe his fitness not what it could be or sharpness at the very least but I;d be of opinion, sharpness only comes with matches and he's had them. I think he is holding back and maybe he is scared for opening up fully - getting further injuries or knocks. I remember when he joined LFC he played in a Carling cup game v Reading, got kicked round the field, scored a hatrick and a star was born. In his LFC years he was known for taking the kicks, sticking his leg in and getting on with it. That seems to have disappeared with the injuries.

In FT's defence, and I am running out here. He has been given very few 90 minute run outs. Plus he has been badly managed. Should never have played against Liverpool, and should've been given more time and/ or starts against so called weaker opposition to get him up and running.

Thats true, massive gamble playing against Liverpool when he had only arrived and it was a huge motovational factor to LFC and media jumped all over it. I'd have thought Wigan was a game to play him at weekend, get a goal and move on as against United last week at least he looked likely on a couple of occassions.

It'll be like Crouch when he joined liverpool. He went an age without scoring, big media/fan pressure, then he got one that was an OG if anything, grapped another one in same game and settled in well after then - well as well as he could.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AZOffaly on April 13, 2011, 12:35:20 PM
Torres is class. I'd be of the same opinion as Dinny. If he gets a settled pre-season, and comes into a new season with a fresh start, with creative passers behind him, then he will score goals for anybody.

I'm not even sure he needs a 'partner' up front, but if he does I think it's more of a creative Beardsley type rather than a goalscoring Anelka/Drogba type.

If Chelsea really think Torres is the future (and he should/could be), then they have to start building their attacking play around him. (Not the team per se, but the way they attack).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 13, 2011, 01:25:18 PM
Chelsea will never get the best out of Torres until he plays up front on his own. He doesn't work well with another striker in a regular 4-4-2 and for the vast majority of his career he has played up front by himself. Benitez recognised this straight away so his whole Liverpool team was built around playing Torres as a lone striker with Gerrard, Kuyt and Benayoun providing the service behind him. I think the injuries have robbed him of half a yard of pace as well. However he hasn't had a proper break in a long time. Last Summer he played for Spain in the World Cup when he was quite clearly not fully over an injury. With a break this Summer he should be fresh for next season but I do feel we've probably already seen the best of him in English football. That's not to say that he could still be quite productive in the right environment.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Dave on April 13, 2011, 04:49:13 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 12, 2011, 10:54:26 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 12, 2011, 09:54:21 PM
Chelsea are like Arsenal..they haven't the balls.

That's right. The double holders have no balls.  ::)

Last season they had plenty of balls,balls of steel actually.
This season they have peanuts for balls.
They threw away the Premier League IMO..how many points were they clear before they started to falter?
They also showed no desire to win last night,Manchester United won at a canter it was as comfortable as it can get for them.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: laoislad on April 14, 2011, 06:31:33 PM
http://www.hasfernandotorresscoredforchelsea.com/
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: new devil on April 14, 2011, 08:01:38 PM
 :D :D :D Very good
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: EC Unique on April 14, 2011, 10:44:35 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 14, 2011, 06:31:33 PM
http://www.hasfernandotorresscoredforchelsea.com/

£75000 a minute.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 15, 2011, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: laoislad on April 14, 2011, 06:31:33 PM
http://www.hasfernandotorresscoredforchelsea.com/

I'd say the hasgerardeverwontheleague.com has seen it's licence expire.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Bingo on April 15, 2011, 10:37:35 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 15, 2011, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: laoislad on April 14, 2011, 06:31:33 PM
http://www.hasfernandotorresscoredforchelsea.com/

I'd say the hasgerardeverwontheleague.com has seen it's licence expire.

Yeah, unfortunately the same guy owned the rights to haschelseaeverwontheeuropeancup.com and he couldn't afford them all  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 15, 2011, 10:48:39 AM
Quote from: Bingo on April 15, 2011, 10:37:35 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 15, 2011, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: laoislad on April 14, 2011, 06:31:33 PM
http://www.hasfernandotorresscoredforchelsea.com/

I'd say the hasgerardeverwontheleague.com has seen it's licence expire.

Yeah, unfortunately the same guy owned the rights to haschelseaeverwontheeuropeancup.com and he couldn't afford them all  ;)

Ba boosh.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Olly on April 15, 2011, 10:51:04 AM
A lot of those sites don't work.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 15, 2011, 11:18:27 AM
No Ramieres tomorrow. Balls. I am really starting to enjoy watching him!

No Alex either.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AQMP on April 15, 2011, 12:47:34 PM
After a slow start Ramires seems to have got better with every game, I'd say he'll be a key player for Chelsea next season and hopefully beyond.  Alex had a good start at Chelsea but he has been hampered by injury this season and last.  Will be 29 in June so still a couple of seasons left in him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: deiseach on April 15, 2011, 01:00:31 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 15, 2011, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: laoislad on April 14, 2011, 06:31:33 PM
http://www.hasfernandotorresscoredforchelsea.com/

I'd say the hasgerardeverwontheleague.com has seen it's licence expire.

I am rubber, you are glue
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on April 15, 2011, 01:42:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt9elfwV8cU&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt9elfwV8cU&feature=player_embedded)

something to cheer you lot up ;D

methinks she should be yer next manager
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: muppet on April 16, 2011, 09:09:10 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Blowitupref on April 20, 2011, 02:45:40 PM
Chelsea are still in this title race, next three games are all very winnable & by the time they play United they could have the chance to overtake them with a win.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 21, 2011, 09:29:31 AM
Another good night for the youth with Ryan Bertrand making his Chelsea debut and habing a major influence on events when he arrived.

What was the lead at one stage? 15 points?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AZOffaly on April 21, 2011, 09:32:43 AM
What's the story with Bertrand, Malouda and Kalou all having a Brazilian on their heads?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AQMP on April 21, 2011, 09:39:17 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 21, 2011, 09:29:31 AM
Another good night for the youth with Ryan Bertrand making his Chelsea debut and habing a major influence on events when he arrived.

What was the lead at one stage? 15 points?

His Da, Plastic was some singer too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PITnJAnmjqw
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: mrsandman on April 21, 2011, 02:32:17 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 21, 2011, 09:29:31 AM
Another good night for the youth with Ryan Bertrand making his Chelsea debut and habing a major influence on events when he arrived.

What was the lead at one stage? 15 points?

What was it they were still in with a chance of winning this season? The champions league, FA cup & the carling cup..keep dreaming Norf ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on April 21, 2011, 02:45:13 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 21, 2011, 09:29:31 AM
Another good night for the youth
No

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 21, 2011, 09:29:31 AM
What was the lead at one stage? 15 points?
Yes
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: thebigfella on April 21, 2011, 03:10:22 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 21, 2011, 09:29:31 AM
Another good night for the youth with Ryan Bertrand making his Chelsea debut and habing a major influence on events when he arrived.

What was the lead at one stage? 15 points?

Is that the lead Chelsea threw away  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AQMP on April 21, 2011, 05:09:31 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on April 21, 2011, 03:10:22 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 21, 2011, 09:29:31 AM
Another good night for the youth with Ryan Bertrand making his Chelsea debut and habing a major influence on events when he arrived.

What was the lead at one stage? 15 points?

Is that the lead Chelsea threw away  ::)

Can you smell that Norf??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 21, 2011, 07:38:26 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 21, 2011, 05:09:31 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on April 21, 2011, 03:10:22 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 21, 2011, 09:29:31 AM
Another good night for the youth with Ryan Bertrand making his Chelsea debut and habing a major influence on events when he arrived.

What was the lead at one stage? 15 points?

Is that the lead Chelsea threw away  ::)

Can you smell that Norf??

I can hear the sound of distant hoofs. Louder they come..... closer and closer.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 22, 2011, 12:38:35 AM
I see Ryan Bertrand has just gone level on the assists table with POTY Gareth Bale!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: nrico2006 on April 22, 2011, 08:51:43 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on April 20, 2011, 02:45:40 PM
Chelsea are still in this title race, next three games are all very winnable & by the time they play United they could have the chance to overtake them with a win.

Every game is winnable, but at the end of the day United are 6 points clear with a decent goal difference, which is a position any team would love to be in at this stage of the season.  Sure Man City and Spurs are still in the title race, both could still top the table come the end of the season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 22, 2011, 10:57:54 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 22, 2011, 08:51:43 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on April 20, 2011, 02:45:40 PM
Chelsea are still in this title race, next three games are all very winnable & by the time they play United they could have the chance to overtake them with a win.

Every game is winnable, but at the end of the day United are 6 points clear with a decent goal difference, which is a position any team would love to be in at this stage of the season.  Sure Man City and Spurs are still in the title race, both could still top the table come the end of the season.

United are in a very strong position and won't blow it now. Their know how will see to that.
I don't think there goal difference is stronger though. They've a couple of goals advantage that would be wiped out shoul GD be required.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: new devil on April 23, 2011, 07:17:34 PM
 :D :D Chelsea fans stealing Liverpool's Torres song..Classless plastic flag waving wankers
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: gallsman on April 23, 2011, 07:29:49 PM
Quote from: new devil on April 23, 2011, 07:17:34 PM
:D :D Chelsea fans stealing Liverpool's Torres song..Classless plastic flag waving w**kers

United never took a song from anyone now, did they? f**k sake, wise up.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: laoislad on April 23, 2011, 09:24:56 PM
http://www.hasfernandotorresscoredforchelsea.com/
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 23, 2011, 09:39:12 PM
People should be ashamed of themselves. Fernando tries to follow the Christian lead and goes off goals for lent. But no. People couldn't stand and admire him. Instead they ridiculed him. They abused him. Eventually the boy cracked and gave into temptation and lashed the ball past Robert Green. Do not be ashamed Fernando. Be proud.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 23, 2011, 09:40:26 PM
Quote from: new devil on April 23, 2011, 07:17:34 PM
:D :D Chelsea fans stealing Liverpool's Torres song..Classless plastic flag waving w**kers

Ever hear of irony?

Sure didn't United fans wreck the away end at Anfield and Liverpool fans copy them and wreck the away end at OT. Happens all the time.

Sober up and wash your mouth out.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: laoislad on April 23, 2011, 09:42:48 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 23, 2011, 09:39:12 PM
People should be ashamed of themselves. Fernando tries to follow the Christian lead and goes off goals for lent. But no. People couldn't stand and admire him. Instead they ridiculed him. They abused him. Eventually the boy cracked and gave into temptation and lashed the ball past Robert Green. Do not be ashamed Fernando. Be proud.


Someone should have told Fernando Lent started on the 9th of March this year not February 6th...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 23, 2011, 09:55:00 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 23, 2011, 09:42:48 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 23, 2011, 09:39:12 PM
People should be ashamed of themselves. Fernando tries to follow the Christian lead and goes off goals for lent. But no. People couldn't stand and admire him. Instead they ridiculed him. They abused him. Eventually the boy cracked and gave into temptation and lashed the ball past Robert Green. Do not be ashamed Fernando. Be proud.


Someone should have told Fernando Lent started on the 9th of March this year not February 6th...
:D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 23, 2011, 10:17:33 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 23, 2011, 09:42:48 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 23, 2011, 09:39:12 PM
People should be ashamed of themselves. Fernando tries to follow the Christian lead and goes off goals for lent. But no. People couldn't stand and admire him. Instead they ridiculed him. They abused him. Eventually the boy cracked and gave into temptation and lashed the ball past Robert Green. Do not be ashamed Fernando. Be proud.


Someone should have told Fernando Lent started on the 9th of March this year not February 6th...

There you go again. Ridiculing the man for his Christiam virtues. You don't see me slagging Gerard off for his Christian denounciation of Premier League medals?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: gallsman on April 23, 2011, 11:23:16 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 23, 2011, 09:42:48 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 23, 2011, 09:39:12 PM
People should be ashamed of themselves. Fernando tries to follow the Christian lead and goes off goals for lent. But no. People couldn't stand and admire him. Instead they ridiculed him. They abused him. Eventually the boy cracked and gave into temptation and lashed the ball past Robert Green. Do not be ashamed Fernando. Be proud.


Someone should have told Fernando Lent started on the 9th of March this year not February 6th...

Or Janurary 2010 for that matter.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ONeill on April 23, 2011, 11:35:08 PM
Chelsea really do have a chance. A couple of weeks ago it was Arsenal hoping Chelsea could do them a favour. Now, it's the other way about. If Arsenal somehow manage to overturn Utd next weekend, the Blues will head to OT in some form (and a free-scoring Torres!)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 23, 2011, 11:39:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 23, 2011, 11:35:08 PM
Chelsea really do have a chance. A couple of weeks ago it was Arsenal hoping Chelsea could do them a favour. Now, it's the other way about. If Arsenal somehow manage to overturn Utd next weekend, the Blues will head to OT in some form (and a free-scoring Torres!)

Even if it did go that far, and I'd be very surprised, Chelsea have a trip to Goodison on the last night. United host Blackpool. Goal difference central for the Mancs!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 23, 2011, 11:40:10 PM
As much as it pains me to say it I hope the plastics win the EPL and give Grumpy his medal. It will be hard but by scoring today he definitely looked a different player. The Gooners don't have the cahones, Chelski do but may be too little too late.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 23, 2011, 11:41:37 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 23, 2011, 11:35:08 PM
Chelsea really do have a chance. A couple of weeks ago it was Arsenal hoping Chelsea could do them a favour. Now, it's the other way about. If Arsenal somehow manage to overturn Utd next weekend, the Blues will head to OT in some form (and a free-scoring Torres!)
Arsenal might have a chance of nailing United now that they have all but blown their chances. Was reading earlier that United's lead is the biggest in over 5 seasons at this time of year so it's all but over.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ONeill on April 23, 2011, 11:50:45 PM
On the other hand, Utd draw or beat Arsenal and it's curtains.

Experts say Arsenal should have won the league this year - had Chelsea not suffered that dip they would be runaway winners.

I suppose that speaks volumes for Fergie.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 24, 2011, 01:53:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTQE2-D3BRE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTQE2-D3BRE)

Maybe it's just me, but I found this v funny. David Luiz cannot speak a word of English but takes the piss out of Torres and Lampard in silent style!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Blowitupref on April 25, 2011, 02:00:19 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 23, 2011, 11:50:45 PM
On the other hand, Utd draw or beat Arsenal and it's curtains.

Experts say Arsenal should have won the league this year - had Chelsea not suffered that dip they would be runaway winners.

I suppose that speaks volumes for Fergie.

Which Experts? & nearly every team has dips in form the only one that i remember that didn't was Chelsea in 04/05
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ONeill on April 25, 2011, 09:49:11 AM
Chelsea's dip was unusually prolonged for reigning champions.

Experts: Dr. Hussein Kamal Badawi, Head, Marine and Fisheries Institute
Dr. M. Amin Ibrahim, Head, Fisheries Department
Dr. Khamis Abdel Hamid Hussein, Head, Fish Seeds Lab.
Dr. Ahmed Fawzi Alquarashili, Head, Fisheries Economy Lab.
Dr. Abdou Abdallah Alwayes, Head, Nets and Fishing Methods Lab.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Blowitupref on April 30, 2011, 06:28:32 PM
Anyone watching the Chelsea v Spurs game? scandalous decision at the end of the half.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Family guy on April 30, 2011, 06:38:35 PM
No,what happened??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Blowitupref on April 30, 2011, 07:00:09 PM
Goal given when clearly not over the line, looked like a penalty for Chelsea their now but waved away.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Blowitupref on April 30, 2011, 07:19:20 PM
OMG & that winning goal looked offside.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2011, 07:23:04 PM
Luck on their side, clearly offside but these things even themselves out over the season ;)

Gomez needs shot to be fair and Harry needs his balls kicked for picking him
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: The Worker on April 30, 2011, 07:28:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2011, 07:23:04 PM
Luck on their side, clearly offside but these things even themselves out over the season ;)

Gomez needs shot to be fair and Harry needs his balls kicked for picking him

clear pen turned down which you failed to mention
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2011, 07:28:59 PM
Clear penalty also, but as i said, these things even themselves out!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Blowitupref on April 30, 2011, 07:36:20 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on April 20, 2011, 02:45:40 PM
Chelsea are still in this title race, next three games are all very winnable & by the time they play United they could have the chance to overtake them with a win.

Told yeah guys.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 06:42:28 AM
> The Lampard goal was very, very close. The linesmen have no chance of getting them calls right. Watched in 10 times and a couple of times I thought it was over. It probably wasn't.
> Chelsea should've had a penalty too (And subsequent red card) but not given.
> A very unhappy Kalou offside for the winner.

Kalou looked seriously pissed off today. He may be on his way!

Torres worked hard, and looked sharp. Was unlucky to be hooked.

Obi Mikel... Superb performance.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 06:44:00 AM
Oh and Spurs with only the one shot on target today! Could not believe how negative Redknapp was considering they needed the win!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: tyroneboi on May 01, 2011, 10:35:43 AM
Modric is some player best player on the pitch yesterday evening!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Blowitupref on May 01, 2011, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 06:42:28 AM
> The Lampard goal was very, very close. The linesmen have no chance of getting them calls right. Watched in 10 times and a couple of times I thought it was over. It probably wasn't.
> Chelsea should've had a penalty too (And subsequent red card) but not given.


I'm a neutral fan & only needed one replay to see the whole ball wasn't over the line, Hoddle,lampard & Ancelotti were very honest about that "goal" after the game.

Thought it was penalty however a player also sent off would be very harsh! anyways that win was a huge lifeline for Chelsea as title race should have been over yesterday.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 01, 2011, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 06:42:28 AM
> The Lampard goal was very, very close. The linesmen have no chance of getting them calls right. Watched in 10 times and a couple of times I thought it was over. It probably wasn't.
> Chelsea should've had a penalty too (And subsequent red card) but not given.


I'm a neutral fan & only needed one replay to see the whole ball wasn't over the line, Hoddle,lampard & Ancelotti were very honest about that "goal" after the game.

Thought it was penalty however a player also sent off would be very harsh! anyways that win was a huge lifeline for Chelsea as title race should have been over yesterday.

Never seen Lampard's interview but some managers should take a leaf from Ancellotti's book in terms of humility.
I'd say Mr Ferguson will be using every interview this week to mention the Luiz decision(s) at The Bridge and yesterday's decisions v Spurs. Just watch.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Blowitupref on May 01, 2011, 07:47:04 PM
Ancelotti is a rare breed maybe pep at Barca another?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 01, 2011, 08:07:21 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 01, 2011, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 06:42:28 AM
> The Lampard goal was very, very close. The linesmen have no chance of getting them calls right. Watched in 10 times and a couple of times I thought it was over. It probably wasn't.
> Chelsea should've had a penalty too (And subsequent red card) but not given.


I'm a neutral fan & only needed one replay to see the whole ball wasn't over the line, Hoddle,lampard & Ancelotti were very honest about that "goal" after the game.

Thought it was penalty however a player also sent off would be very harsh! anyways that win was a huge lifeline for Chelsea as title race should have been over yesterday.

Never seen Lampard's interview but some managers should take a leaf from Ancellotti's book in terms of humility.
I'd say Mr Ferguson will be using every interview this week to mention the Luiz decision(s) at The Bridge and yesterday's decisions v Spurs. Just watch.

It's already started

"Obviously, it gives Chelsea a major chance now and that's what happens when you get these decisions. They got one at Old Trafford last season so that's the worry now. But in terms of ability - a game at Old Trafford, the supporters will be ready for it - and so will our players."- Sir Alex Ferguson
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 08:18:36 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 01, 2011, 08:07:21 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 01, 2011, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 06:42:28 AM
> The Lampard goal was very, very close. The linesmen have no chance of getting them calls right. Watched in 10 times and a couple of times I thought it was over. It probably wasn't.
> Chelsea should've had a penalty too (And subsequent red card) but not given.


I'm a neutral fan & only needed one replay to see the whole ball wasn't over the line, Hoddle,lampard & Ancelotti were very honest about that "goal" after the game.

Thought it was penalty however a player also sent off would be very harsh! anyways that win was a huge lifeline for Chelsea as title race should have been over yesterday.

Never seen Lampard's interview but some managers should take a leaf from Ancellotti's book in terms of humility.
I'd say Mr Ferguson will be using every interview this week to mention the Luiz decision(s) at The Bridge and yesterday's decisions v Spurs. Just watch.

It's already started

"Obviously, it gives Chelsea a major chance now and that's what happens when you get these decisions. They got one at Old Trafford last season so that's the worry now. But in terms of ability - a game at Old Trafford, the supporters will be ready for it - and so will our players."- Sir Alex Ferguson

As I've said many times. United keep repeating the Drogba decision at OT last year over and over and over. So much so that it becomes engrained that that changed the PL destiny.

Completly ignoring Macheda's hand ball!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: gallsman on May 01, 2011, 08:34:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 08:18:36 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 01, 2011, 08:07:21 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 01, 2011, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 06:42:28 AM
> The Lampard goal was very, very close. The linesmen have no chance of getting them calls right. Watched in 10 times and a couple of times I thought it was over. It probably wasn't.
> Chelsea should've had a penalty too (And subsequent red card) but not given.


I'm a neutral fan & only needed one replay to see the whole ball wasn't over the line, Hoddle,lampard & Ancelotti were very honest about that "goal" after the game.

Thought it was penalty however a player also sent off would be very harsh! anyways that win was a huge lifeline for Chelsea as title race should have been over yesterday.

Never seen Lampard's interview but some managers should take a leaf from Ancellotti's book in terms of humility.
I'd say Mr Ferguson will be using every interview this week to mention the Luiz decision(s) at The Bridge and yesterday's decisions v Spurs. Just watch.

It's already started

"Obviously, it gives Chelsea a major chance now and that's what happens when you get these decisions. They got one at Old Trafford last season so that's the worry now. But in terms of ability - a game at Old Trafford, the supporters will be ready for it - and so will our players."- Sir Alex Ferguson

As I've said many times. United keep repeating the Drogba decision at OT last year over and over and over. So much so that it becomes engrained that that changed the PL destiny.

Completly ignoring Macheda's hand ball!

I believe it's from the Mourinho School of Thought.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 09:19:27 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 01, 2011, 08:34:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 08:18:36 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 01, 2011, 08:07:21 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 01, 2011, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 06:42:28 AM
> The Lampard goal was very, very close. The linesmen have no chance of getting them calls right. Watched in 10 times and a couple of times I thought it was over. It probably wasn't.
> Chelsea should've had a penalty too (And subsequent red card) but not given.


I'm a neutral fan & only needed one replay to see the whole ball wasn't over the line, Hoddle,lampard & Ancelotti were very honest about that "goal" after the game.

Thought it was penalty however a player also sent off would be very harsh! anyways that win was a huge lifeline for Chelsea as title race should have been over yesterday.

Never seen Lampard's interview but some managers should take a leaf from Ancellotti's book in terms of humility.
I'd say Mr Ferguson will be using every interview this week to mention the Luiz decision(s) at The Bridge and yesterday's decisions v Spurs. Just watch.

It's already started

"Obviously, it gives Chelsea a major chance now and that's what happens when you get these decisions. They got one at Old Trafford last season so that's the worry now. But in terms of ability - a game at Old Trafford, the supporters will be ready for it - and so will our players."- Sir Alex Ferguson

As I've said many times. United keep repeating the Drogba decision at OT last year over and over and over. So much so that it becomes engrained that that changed the PL destiny.

Completly ignoring Macheda's hand ball!

I believe it's from the Mourinho School of Thought.

Mourihno's is more thoughtful. More theatrical.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Blowitupref on May 02, 2011, 01:17:02 AM
Without Fergie & Mourihno football would be boring i find them fascinating TBH
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: nrico2006 on May 02, 2011, 08:58:06 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 08:18:36 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 01, 2011, 08:07:21 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 01, 2011, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 06:42:28 AM
> The Lampard goal was very, very close. The linesmen have no chance of getting them calls right. Watched in 10 times and a couple of times I thought it was over. It probably wasn't.
> Chelsea should've had a penalty too (And subsequent red card) but not given.


I'm a neutral fan & only needed one replay to see the whole ball wasn't over the line, Hoddle,lampard & Ancelotti were very honest about that "goal" after the game.

Thought it was penalty however a player also sent off would be very harsh! anyways that win was a huge lifeline for Chelsea as title race should have been over yesterday.

Never seen Lampard's interview but some managers should take a leaf from Ancellotti's book in terms of humility.
I'd say Mr Ferguson will be using every interview this week to mention the Luiz decision(s) at The Bridge and yesterday's decisions v Spurs. Just watch.

It's already started

"Obviously, it gives Chelsea a major chance now and that's what happens when you get these decisions. They got one at Old Trafford last season so that's the worry now. But in terms of ability - a game at Old Trafford, the supporters will be ready for it - and so will our players."- Sir Alex Ferguson

As I've said many times. United keep repeating the Drogba decision at OT last year over and over and over. So much so that it becomes engrained that that changed the PL destiny.

Completly ignoring Macheda's hand ball!

It hit his hands, it rebounded of Cech and came at him in a split second. 

On another note, I don't think there is a conspiracy but Fergie is doing what he does best in the run up to a big game and putting more attention on the officials and taking the focus of his team.  He is probably fed up with the common ABU view that United get so many fortuitous decisions when in fact they get no more than any other side in the League.  I think that with so many camera watching every inch of grass these days that it is easy to flag up the high level of incorrect critical calls by officials, but I think what annoys most football fans is that nothing is appearing to be done to try and solve the problem.  The number of penalties awarded that shouldn't be (or vice versa), goals that are given that were not over the line, goals scored that were offside or goals disallowed that were legitimate is shocking and something needs to be attempted to try and tackle the problem and make the sport fair.  Or is it a case that people actually enjoy this element of the game?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Orangemac on May 02, 2011, 09:01:21 AM
Mourinho is more entertaining off the field than on the field. Shocking performance v Barca last week. I know it is about results but it was amazing to see Ronaldo fuming at Mourinho because of the negative tactics in the 1st half last week.

Ferguson may be a bully but his teams have always played good football.

On the subject of the title race if Chelsea can win next week you would fancy them to close it out even on GD. They will have a 2 goal head start and you can't see Newcastle providing much resistance.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 02, 2011, 09:16:21 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 02, 2011, 08:58:06 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 08:18:36 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 01, 2011, 08:07:21 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 01, 2011, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 06:42:28 AM
> The Lampard goal was very, very close. The linesmen have no chance of getting them calls right. Watched in 10 times and a couple of times I thought it was over. It probably wasn't.
> Chelsea should've had a penalty too (And subsequent red card) but not given.


I'm a neutral fan & only needed one replay to see the whole ball wasn't over the line, Hoddle,lampard & Ancelotti were very honest about that "goal" after the game.

Thought it was penalty however a player also sent off would be very harsh! anyways that win was a huge lifeline for Chelsea as title race should have been over yesterday.

Never seen Lampard's interview but some managers should take a leaf from Ancellotti's book in terms of humility.
I'd say Mr Ferguson will be using every interview this week to mention the Luiz decision(s) at The Bridge and yesterday's decisions v Spurs. Just watch.

It's already started

"Obviously, it gives Chelsea a major chance now and that's what happens when you get these decisions. They got one at Old Trafford last season so that's the worry now. But in terms of ability - a game at Old Trafford, the supporters will be ready for it - and so will our players."- Sir Alex Ferguson

As I've said many times. United keep repeating the Drogba decision at OT last year over and over and over. So much so that it becomes engrained that that changed the PL destiny.

Completly ignoring Macheda's hand ball!

It hit his hands, it rebounded of Cech and came at him in a split second. 

On another note, I don't think there is a conspiracy but Fergie is doing what he does best in the run up to a big game and putting more attention on the officials and taking the focus of his team.  He is probably fed up with the common ABU view that United get so many fortuitous decisions when in fact they get no more than any other side in the League.  I think that with so many camera watching every inch of grass these days that it is easy to flag up the high level of incorrect critical calls by officials, but I think what annoys most football fans is that nothing is appearing to be done to try and solve the problem.  The number of penalties awarded that shouldn't be (or vice versa), goals that are given that were not over the line, goals scored that were offside or goals disallowed that were legitimate is shocking and something needs to be attempted to try and tackle the problem and make the sport fair.  Or is it a case that people actually enjoy this element of the game?

I used to think 'decisions' were part and parcel of the game, but more recently, I think some form of '3rd referee' system needs adopted. This week should be about Messi, Ronaldo etc and then Drogba, Rooney, Terry and Vidic.. but it won't. It'll be a week of chatting s***e and whinging.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: new devil on May 02, 2011, 10:58:08 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 02, 2011, 09:16:21 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 02, 2011, 08:58:06 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 08:18:36 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 01, 2011, 08:07:21 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 01, 2011, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2011, 06:42:28 AM
> The Lampard goal was very, very close. The linesmen have no chance of getting them calls right. Watched in 10 times and a couple of times I thought it was over. It probably wasn't.
> Chelsea should've had a penalty too (And subsequent red card) but not given.


I'm a neutral fan & only needed one replay to see the whole ball wasn't over the line, Hoddle,lampard & Ancelotti were very honest about that "goal" after the game.

Thought it was penalty however a player also sent off would be very harsh! anyways that win was a huge lifeline for Chelsea as title race should have been over yesterday.

Never seen Lampard's interview but some managers should take a leaf from Ancellotti's book in terms of humility.
I'd say Mr Ferguson will be using every interview this week to mention the Luiz decision(s) at The Bridge and yesterday's decisions v Spurs. Just watch.

It's already started

"Obviously, it gives Chelsea a major chance now and that's what happens when you get these decisions. They got one at Old Trafford last season so that's the worry now. But in terms of ability - a game at Old Trafford, the supporters will be ready for it - and so will our players."- Sir Alex Ferguson

As I've said many times. United keep repeating the Drogba decision at OT last year over and over and over. So much so that it becomes engrained that that changed the PL destiny.

Completly ignoring Macheda's hand ball!

It hit his hands, it rebounded of Cech and came at him in a split second. 

On another note, I don't think there is a conspiracy but Fergie is doing what he does best in the run up to a big game and putting more attention on the officials and taking the focus of his team.  He is probably fed up with the common ABU view that United get so many fortuitous decisions when in fact they get no more than any other side in the League.  I think that with so many camera watching every inch of grass these days that it is easy to flag up the high level of incorrect critical calls by officials, but I think what annoys most football fans is that nothing is appearing to be done to try and solve the problem.  The number of penalties awarded that shouldn't be (or vice versa), goals that are given that were not over the line, goals scored that were offside or goals disallowed that were legitimate is shocking and something needs to be attempted to try and tackle the problem and make the sport fair.  Or is it a case that people actually enjoy this element of the game?

I used to think 'decisions' were part and parcel of the game, but more recently, I think some form of '3rd referee' system needs adopted. This week should be about Messi, Ronaldo etc and then Drogba, Rooney, Terry and Vidic.. but it won't. It'll be a week of chatting s***e and whinging.

Enough about you...What will Fergie be doing?   :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: mrsandman on May 04, 2011, 02:12:59 PM
All the best on Sunday lads  ;)

Just a wee video to lighten the mood!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQm8B1HHTAM

WEMBLEYYYYYYYYY!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 04, 2011, 03:13:24 PM
Quote from: mrsandman on May 04, 2011, 02:12:59 PM
All the best on Sunday lads  ;)

Just a wee video to lighten the mood!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQm8B1HHTAM

WEMBLEYYYYYYYYY!!!!

Imagine posting a link about the man who Manc's claim 'blew it' on the week that his side face that team that may go down as the team that blew a 15 point lead!!

Whta is it you kids say... obsessed much.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: mrsandman on May 04, 2011, 04:19:47 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 04, 2011, 03:13:24 PM
Quote from: mrsandman on May 04, 2011, 02:12:59 PM
All the best on Sunday lads  ;)

Just a wee video to lighten the mood!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQm8B1HHTAM

WEMBLEYYYYYYYYY!!!!

Imagine posting a link about the man who Manc's claim 'blew it' on the week that his side face that team that may go down as the team that blew a 15 point lead!!

Whta is it you kids say... obsessed much.

I know, imagine me doing that, so silly  ::)

We havnt blew a 15 point lead, theres 3 points in it yet ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Minder on May 04, 2011, 04:34:16 PM
Quote from: mrsandman on May 04, 2011, 04:19:47 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 04, 2011, 03:13:24 PM
Quote from: mrsandman on May 04, 2011, 02:12:59 PM
All the best on Sunday lads  ;)

Just a wee video to lighten the mood!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQm8B1HHTAM

WEMBLEYYYYYYYYY!!!!


Imagine posting a link about the man who Manc's claim 'blew it' on the week that his side face that team that may go down as the team that blew a 15 point lead!!

Whta is it you kids say... obsessed much.

I know, imagine me doing that, so silly  ::)

We havnt blew a 15 point lead, theres 3 points in it yet ;)

What position do you play? You should be getting ready for the game.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 04, 2011, 05:16:44 PM
Quote from: mrsandman on May 04, 2011, 04:19:47 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 04, 2011, 03:13:24 PM
Quote from: mrsandman on May 04, 2011, 02:12:59 PM
All the best on Sunday lads  ;)

Just a wee video to lighten the mood!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQm8B1HHTAM

WEMBLEYYYYYYYYY!!!!

Imagine posting a link about the man who Manc's claim 'blew it' on the week that his side face that team that may go down as the team that blew a 15 point lead!!

Whta is it you kids say... obsessed much.

I know, imagine me doing that, so silly  ::)

We havnt blew a 15 point lead, theres 3 points in it yet ;)

Hence 'may'.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2011, 12:01:08 AM
Sometimes we forget that footballers have lives too. I thought that last week Soloman Kalou didn't celebrate as he was huffing about being benched... transpires that his family home has been destroyed and everything stolen from it by Republican forces in Ivory Coast. Note there is no punchline.


And on a lighter note.. The second video in a line of David Luiz' pisstakes. The first was hilarious IMHO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz9CD6xjIz0&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz9CD6xjIz0&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: new devil on May 07, 2011, 09:28:33 AM
Guess your easy amused...He seems like a complete knob
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 07, 2011, 11:55:07 AM
Quote from: new devil on May 07, 2011, 09:28:33 AM
Guess your easy amused...He seems like a complete knob

He's just had his home destroyed. Have some decency.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2011, 06:49:24 AM
Big game today, and where by normally I'd be nervous as hell about these games, today I am really looking forward to it. The obituries were previously written and the club's demise dissected so today feels like we can't lose. If the players feel the same sense then it'll be a shot in the arm for them.

On the team front I'd say CA's XI is obvious. Isn't it?

Cech, Cole, Terry and Ivanovic are certs. Luiz will probably get the other CB role, but his rashness and his newness to the PL would worry me. If Alex had a game or two under his belt I would've went with him instead.

The middle three will probably be Mikel, Essien and Lampard. However again I'd maybe like to see Ramieres over Essien. A week or two back I'd have definately went this way but Essien has shown a hint or two of form since then. Mikel's selection is critical. In the three game between the sides this season to date Rooney has dropped between the lines and caused problems. Indeed he has scored twice from this position. Mikel's absence in the games I think was a factor. His appearance today should at least help that.

Up front he'll likely go Malouda, Drogs and Kalou, and it'll be hard to argue. Malouda is still not firing on all cylinders, but provides a bit of balance to the team. Drogba has at last shook of malaria, and is looking like the man again. Kalou's pace and trickery and frustrating inpredictability deserves a spot as his form recently has been pretty good. Normally I'd like to see him as an impact sub but he merits a place based on that form.

That leaves Torres and Anelka in reserve.

Finally Ancellotti. The man has again impressed me this year. He has made some mistakes along the way, and I feel if he had an experienced number two like Steve Clarke we would be 6,7 points better off. However his attitude, class and behaviour and his refusal to be riled by other managers, journalists and events has been fantastic. No old fashioned BS from The Lotti!

Should be fun!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2011, 07:57:07 AM
QuoteFinally Ancellotti. The man has again impressed me this year. He has made some mistakes along the way, and I feel if he had an experienced number two like Steve Clarke we would be 6,7 points better off. However his attitude, class and behaviour and his refusal to be riled by other managers, journalists and events has been fantastic. No old fashioned BS from The Lotti!

I have to say I agree with that, the man is a class act.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AQMP on May 09, 2011, 09:13:42 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2011, 07:57:07 AM
QuoteFinally Ancellotti. The man has again impressed me this year. He has made some mistakes along the way, and I feel if he had an experienced number two like Steve Clarke we would be 6,7 points better off. However his attitude, class and behaviour and his refusal to be riled by other managers, journalists and events has been fantastic. No old fashioned BS from The Lotti!

I have to say I agree with that, the man is a class act.

Didn't deserve to win the game, didn't deserve to win the league, Carlo sums it up nicely
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2011, 09:46:16 AM
It's hard to know where to start in the analysis of yesterday's game. You wonder how different would the game have been if Chelsea had've settled instead of conceeding after 30 odd seconds.

The problem was United were hungrier and better everywhere. Chelsea never got a chance to settle on the ball, and JSP especially was outstanding. He hassled and harried and especially in the first 20 minutes Chelsea's passing was attrocious.

I said before the game that Luiz was not ready for the 'big games' and so it proved. Got turned, slipped and went to ground too easy. Alex looked more secure when he came on. Ashley Cole was destroyed yesterday. I've rarely seen anyone get the better of him, never mind totally blown away, so fair play Valencia. In Cole's defence, once again he has had a full season and he's one of the players that's never rested or rotated. He looked tired yesterday.

Ivanovic was lucky not to see red. However I was disapointed to see Rooney go out of his road to get him red carded. Feigned injury and then a dive (Is that not a booking?) in the 2nd half. Giggs also trying to force the ref's hand.

The midfield was AWOL. Again Essien shows the world that he is a passanger. A middle two of Essien and Lampard no longer works as they don't have the legs. Ramieres showing him up once again when he came on.

Up top, Malouda awol, Kalou not good enough to start the big games, and Drogba was just starved of any support.

Bar that I thought we played quite well.

Some minor surgery required by CA in the summer. I'll go into some other time, but I'd cash in on Malouda and Essien given half the chance.  He also needs a midfield that moves the ball quicker. It's all too ponderous and predictable.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AZOffaly on May 09, 2011, 09:59:48 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2011, 09:46:16 AM
Some minor surgery required by CA in the summer. I'll go into some other time, but I'd cash in on Malouda and Essien given half the chance.  He also needs a midfield that moves the ball quicker. It's all too ponderous and predictable.

Fair play Norf, that's a good summary. I don't think Chelsea were atrocious yesterday, I think they were just blown away by the intensity that United brought to the game. It seemed to catch them by surprise, and they looked rattled. As you pointed out JSP was the epitome of the Man U approach.

As for the summer, I think you are right. There isn't major surgery required, but Midfield has to be looked at. Torres will have a full pre season to prepare, and that should stand to him.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AQMP on May 09, 2011, 10:17:39 AM
Spot on Norf.  If Chelsea are to persist with Torres as a long term replacement for Drogba, then they will have to move the ball quickly to him.

Time to amend the thread title again Norf??  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2011, 11:22:04 AM
Quote from: AQMP on May 09, 2011, 10:17:39 AM
Spot on Norf.  If Chelsea are to persist with Torres as a long term replacement for Drogba, then they will have to move the ball quickly to him.

Time to amend the thread title again Norf??  ;)

Only when the maths declares it so. Maybe Blackburn could win next week, and Chelsea beat Newcastle and then.... ah f**k it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on May 09, 2011, 03:18:57 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2011, 09:46:16 AM
It's hard to know where to start in the analysis of yesterday's game. You wonder how different would the game have been if Chelsea had've settled instead of conceeding after 30 odd seconds.

The problem was United were hungrier and better everywhere. Chelsea never got a chance to settle on the ball, and JSP especially was outstanding. He hassled and harried and especially in the first 20 minutes Chelsea's passing was attrocious.

I said before the game that Luiz was not ready for the 'big games' and so it proved. Got turned, slipped and went to ground too easy. Alex looked more secure when he came on. Ashley Cole was destroyed yesterday. I've rarely seen anyone get the better of him, never mind totally blown away, so fair play Valencia. In Cole's defence, once again he has had a full season and he's one of the players that's never rested or rotated. He looked tired yesterday.

Ivanovic was lucky not to see red. However I was disapointed to see Rooney go out of his road to get him red carded. Feigned injury and then a dive (Is that not a booking?) in the 2nd half. Giggs also trying to force the ref's hand.

The midfield was AWOL. Again Essien shows the world that he is a passanger. A middle two of Essien and Lampard no longer works as they don't have the legs. Ramieres showing him up once again when he came on.

Up top, Malouda awol, Kalou not good enough to start the big games, and Drogba was just starved of any support.

Bar that I thought we played quite well.

Some minor surgery required by CA in the summer. I'll go into some other time, but I'd cash in on Malouda and Essien given half the chance.  He also needs a midfield that moves the ball quicker. It's all too ponderous and predictable.
Valencia also skinned Cole last August in the community shield as for Luiz before the CL QFS i did try to play down the hype surrounding him by suggesting Alex was much better at defending! to be fair Norf you were the only one that agreed with me but i do think Luiz will be a fine player for Chelsea though not at Centre back.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2011, 03:54:28 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 09, 2011, 03:18:57 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2011, 09:46:16 AM
It's hard to know where to start in the analysis of yesterday's game. You wonder how different would the game have been if Chelsea had've settled instead of conceeding after 30 odd seconds.

The problem was United were hungrier and better everywhere. Chelsea never got a chance to settle on the ball, and JSP especially was outstanding. He hassled and harried and especially in the first 20 minutes Chelsea's passing was attrocious.

I said before the game that Luiz was not ready for the 'big games' and so it proved. Got turned, slipped and went to ground too easy. Alex looked more secure when he came on. Ashley Cole was destroyed yesterday. I've rarely seen anyone get the better of him, never mind totally blown away, so fair play Valencia. In Cole's defence, once again he has had a full season and he's one of the players that's never rested or rotated. He looked tired yesterday.

Ivanovic was lucky not to see red. However I was disapointed to see Rooney go out of his road to get him red carded. Feigned injury and then a dive (Is that not a booking?) in the 2nd half. Giggs also trying to force the ref's hand.

The midfield was AWOL. Again Essien shows the world that he is a passanger. A middle two of Essien and Lampard no longer works as they don't have the legs. Ramieres showing him up once again when he came on.

Up top, Malouda awol, Kalou not good enough to start the big games, and Drogba was just starved of any support.

Bar that I thought we played quite well.

Some minor surgery required by CA in the summer. I'll go into some other time, but I'd cash in on Malouda and Essien given half the chance.  He also needs a midfield that moves the ball quicker. It's all too ponderous and predictable.
Valencia also skinned Cole last August in the community shield as for Luiz before the CL QFS i did try to play down the hype surrounding him by suggesting Alex was much better at defending! to be fair Norf you were the only one that agreed with me but i do think Luiz will be a fine player for Chelsea though not at Centre back.

Oh shit. Can't believe I am saying this, but I agree. I think he'd be a great holding midfielder. Even play him in that role until he learns the PL. He is great at carrying the ball, and he could start the attacks from that anchor role.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on May 09, 2011, 04:06:32 PM
Fair play to the Norf who i may have had the odd dig at in the past; as a pool supporter, i share your pain today;

your analysis isnt far away when it comes to your own team, ye got the line up spot on too i mite add; id just like to say i think theres a bit more than minor surgery required, though not major surgery (if that makes sense!!) yous have the look of an ageing team about you, like an ac milan team, full of big names/ established players etc; i think a burst of youth, and as someone else has said, a slight change in your approach, is abdly needed;

lampard looks on the wane, essien a shadow of what he used to be; ivanovic is solid, but i dont think he's up to it at full back; drogba, anelka torres, at least 1,maybe 2 need to go.....

cant believe ive wrote so much about chelski; only came on to agree with the poster who said ancelloti was a class act; mourinho could learn a thing or two;
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 10, 2011, 10:38:42 AM
http://www.chelseafc.com/javaImages/3c/6d/0,,10268~9661756,00.jpg (http://www.chelseafc.com/javaImages/3c/6d/0,,10268~9661756,00.jpg)

Barclays Premier Reserve League South Champions! Keep your UCL. Keep your league titles. Keep your FA Cups.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: AQMP on May 10, 2011, 10:45:14 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 10, 2011, 10:38:42 AM
http://www.chelseafc.com/javaImages/3c/6d/0,,10268~9661756,00.jpg (http://www.chelseafc.com/javaImages/3c/6d/0,,10268~9661756,00.jpg)

Barclays Premier Reserve League South Champions! Keep your UCL. Keep your league titles. Keep your FA Cups.

Get in there!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Blowitupref on May 10, 2011, 04:49:12 PM
What's your opinion on Daniel Sturridge does he still have a future at Chelsea our will he be sold in the summer?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: ross4life on May 15, 2011, 06:07:48 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 10:10:01 PM
Chelsea will finish ahead of Arsenal in the PL table this season.
Well i did call it back in Feb.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Double Winners
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 16, 2011, 09:11:25 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 10, 2011, 10:38:42 AM
http://www.chelseafc.com/javaImages/3c/6d/0,,10268~9661756,00.jpg (http://www.chelseafc.com/javaImages/3c/6d/0,,10268~9661756,00.jpg)

Barclays Premier Reserve League South Champions! Keep your UCL. Keep your league titles. Keep your FA Cups.

Boom!!!! Champions of the English Premier Reserve League tonight. On penalties too!!!

Championes, championes...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Archie Mitchell on May 22, 2011, 08:02:33 PM
Ancelotti gone
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AZOffaly on May 22, 2011, 08:04:41 PM
That's a pity, he seemed like he had a bit of class.

Big mouth Mourinho back?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Archie Mitchell on May 22, 2011, 08:06:57 PM
I'd imagine Hiddink would be favourite. Read today that he still has a role at Chelsea.

Was a bit strange seeing in the papers today that Ancelotti said he would manage West Ham jus to stay in England.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ross4life on May 22, 2011, 10:44:30 PM
I think Chelsea should have kept Carlo for at least another season but we all know Abramovich is a man with little patience.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 22, 2011, 11:32:01 PM
Some Twitter rumours that Van Basten is favourite. Abramovich is a clown.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Blowitupref on May 22, 2011, 11:52:34 PM
Rafa Benitez is available
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 25, 2011, 02:42:10 PM
I stole this from RAWK but is a nice bit of light entertainment for the day that's in it!

QuoteJoe Cole claimed he couldn't bear to watch the Champions League final but it seems a few fans from Chelsea couldn't resist. This is a transcript of their conversation on an unofficial Chelsea website on the night of May 25 2005.

The transcript is from the message boards of CFCnet, "the intelligent forum" for fans of the Champions, Chelsea FC" and hundreds of Liverpool supporters have emailed it in to liverpoolfc.tv asking us to publish it in all its glory.

Remember this is taken from an unofficial Chelsea supporters website and not the Official Chelsea Football Club website. The supporters nicknames are presented in bold with their comments below. Enjoy.

h3rby

Liverpool are 1-0 down already :S ..not Crespo though :(

hernancrespo

Crespo almost scored!

dannyblue

bot bothered about crespo, just want milan to in so dont have to face "champions league your havin a larf" from the scousers next season. come on milan!!!

Paul Mcgoochan

Stop laughing you lot, he says, wiping tears from his eyes.
LOL,LOL,LOL.

Scott Miller

Kewell looks set to come off with a thigh injury. What a waste of money he was.

davidleighfisher

Kewell - the new Darren Anderton???

HA HA HA

h3rby

Crespo!!!!!!!!!!..................2-0

hernancrespo

I've scored!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Paul Mcgoochan

CRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSPPPPPPPPOOOOOOOOOOOO
2-0

johnnysunshine

goal to Crespo! come on Chelsea!

Alex Kirke

2-0 2-0

IT'S CRESPO :D

davidleighfisher

Paying half his wages for a season, was well worth that one moment!

Well done Crespo - the boy done good!

BYE BYE Mickey Mousers - Losers in 2 finals, 5th in the league and 37 points behind the CHAMPIONS, they must be sooo proud!

h3rby

omg crespo again!!!!!>...........get in 3-0

dannyblue

hernan crespo hernan crespo oooh oohh hernan crespo hernan crespo. yyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeessssssssssss!!!!!!!

hernancrespo

Crespo 3-0!

Alex Kirke

I loved that!

'Chelsea's revenge'

Paul Mcgoochan

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Am I going to enjoy work tomorrow.

h3rby

woooohooo a 4-0 pummling would be nice srespo hatrick muhahahahaha

Scott Miller

Sorry lads, I've got a meeting in a couple minutes and I won't be able to approve any of the second half posts. This isn't the normal match day thread where the posts don't require approval. Hopefully another moderator will be around for the second half.

3-0 at half-time. Silly Silly Scousers! They can add that to their wonderful history!

Jackass1987

Kaka! Kaka! Kaka!

Kaka was amazing! Hes superb! Bid for him! 100m!!!

Anyway Crespo ....2 for Chelsea!

Khobar

Thanks Liverpool - FOR EMBARASSING THE PREMIER LEAGUE!!

LMAO :-) A few million on Crespos transfer fee methi

h3rby

my bin dipper pal is sayin omg were playin like chelsea ahahahahahahaha what a d**k

Jackass1987

Anyway, Rafa got it all wrong! His line-ups are crappy. Harry Kewell shouldnt be there....instead he should play Cisse. Cos he tought he can do a Chelsea against the mighty Milan....sorry mate!

I think 2nd half Milan will play it cool...and Pool will ...wait SHOULD attack like crazy.....

PaulT

So far just what I'd hoped for - resounding proof that (from England's point of view) the wromng team are in the final.

Gary Stone

Crespo's second goal was stunning, what a pass and finish.

Jackass1987

I keep imagine how is it going to be if Chelsea are playing...Terry taking on Cresp ...Carval on Sheva and so on...

Anyway Pool's defense is SHAKY tonight. Caraggher is nowhere at sight.......

h3rby

I miss him bring him back :((

vincent

HaHaHahah HahahahahaHahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH and then ROFL

Richard

Poetic justice. Pool were never good enough for the big stage. That's what happens when you get into the realms of fantasy. They were lucky to go through against us.

Alex Kirke

Maybe the fools who so desperately wanted to see the CL come back to England, but cheered on Liverpool against us, will wish so much that it was Chelsea out there now.

h3rby

ahahahahah gerrard almost in tears!!! priceless!!

h3rby

Crespo hatrick tellin ya........... then comes back 2 bridge in summer as a blues hero hahaha

h3rby

Gerrard with a header 3-1

dannyblue

And there goes 5 million on a transfer fee or swap deal.

h3rby

omg Smicer 3-2

Gary Stone

Can't believe Liverpool have pulled two back.

hernancrespo

Hang on............. 3-2!

Gary Stone

Liverpool have got a penalty now, what is going on?

h3rby

omg penalty 3-3 alonso

Gary Stone

Missed and then scored the follow up. Liverpool have been outclassed yet somehow are level.

Alex Kirke

I dont believe this....

hernancrespo

Shocking! 3-3!!!!!!!

h3rby

manic game !! great final unlike the bloody fa cup

dannyblue

Crespo hatrick anyone??

Paul Mcgoochan

If Liverpool win, I'm going to avoid every newspaper and tv for the next 3 months.

h3rby

omg lierpool saved pushed it out and hit off the line

Gary Stone

Liverpool clear off the line again.

Alex Kirke

You just know Liverpool will win now...

If they win it like this... we'll never here the end of it...

hernancrespo

Come on Milan! Crespo hat-trick will come!

Gary Stone

There goes Hernan's chance of a hat-trick.

h3rby

No hatrick Crespo off :((( boooooooo

hernancrespo

And he has been far better than Sheva! Come on Milan!!!

h3rby

is it gonna go pens if stays this at et or willl it be golden goal??

Paul Mcgoochan

Any-one for penalties. Shame Crespo is still not on. They might need him to take one.

blueerato

hey you blues, cant you have a little faith and keep the postscoming? Its not like Milan have lost now have they?????? They aregonna score a goal in extra time ............... bad thing Crespo is off

Khobar

C'mon Milan for Gods sake.

Alex Kirke

I don't know... Milan have really been shaken by those 3 goals.
I don't care if it goes to pens or not, as long as Milan win.

h3rby

milan will go through on pens i reckon

voodoo

Can't believe no one is commenting on Gerrard's dive for the penalty !

Rooney would have been proud of that one. Disgusting. But then again he's English, isn't he.

blue bliz

Is it just me or did Gerrard completely flop to get that penalty? I could have sworn that he was doing a Deco impersonation.

frad

Milan to win on penalties and Stevie OG to miss the decisive one. Would be nice to see that happen....

hernancrespo

Milan are beginning to do my head in. Come on Milan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Paul Mcgoochan

voodoo and blue bliz, good shout. Thought the same thing. As do alot of people on this site.

h3rby

Milan are starting to go for the jugular now

h3rby

Smicer looks injured

dannyblue

PLEASE MILAN so that i dont have to pout up with whining scousers singing for the next decade, theyve just got over the eighties. Please

h3rby

omg off the line again!!!1

Paul Mcgoochan

Double save by Dudy. Can see Liverpool winning this on pens.

Gary Stone

Not by a Gerrard freekick, please.

Gary Stone

Phew, penalties.

h3rby

oh well pens it is

h3rby

omg milan 1 miss 1 saved

h3rby

2-0 on pens to the pool

hernancrespo

Gosh! Saved!

h3rby

ohhhhhhhhhhhh saved for milan 2-1

h3rby

2-2 now

h3rby

3-2 pool

BluSun

This is it .. we will never hear the end of how they won against Milan.. I am hoping for a miracle..

h3rby

omg Shevchenko had hissaved.

frad

NO!

Gary Stone

Liverpool European Champions, whats that all about?

hernancrespo

Goodnite guys! I'm beserk!!!

h3rby

they win it 2 keep fair play they pld excellent 2nd half well deserved gg:)

Khobar

Apalling - how far off the line was Dudek - how many dodgy decisions.
Gutted.

dannyblue

GUTTED. GOD anfield will be fun

Paul Mcgoochan

Oh well, no newspapers or tv for 3 months then.
DON'T BLOODY WELL BELIEVE IT.
NIGHTMARE COME TRUE.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

subimp555

I feel sick!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 25, 2011, 09:06:50 PM
Arry backed from 25 into 2-1 favourite tonight!!  :o

Personally CA has been treated poorly. A double winner should not be getting the boot 12 months on. However where he did fail was in his loyalty. People like Essien were playing poorly but he refused to drop him. Should've been more ruthless a la Fergie at times.

CA also lost a serious amount of credance with Chelsea fans for his line up v Everton. Nothing whatsoever to play for and not one 'kid' played! He should've gave pitch time to MacEacheran and Bertrand.

Personally I am not overly bothered who Chelsea appoint although hopefully it'll not be Grant nor Benitez. Hiddink, TSO and Villa Boas would be up near the top of the preferred list!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ONeill on May 25, 2011, 09:11:10 PM
If 'Arry's thinking of travelling across London to the Bridge it can only mean one thing - the Inland Revenue are closing in on Spurs now.

I'm a facking football manager. Fack off.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 25, 2011, 09:13:04 PM
I see Chelsea have actually taken out one of those super injunctions to prevent their new manager from naming Torres in his squad....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Blowitupref on May 25, 2011, 09:14:02 PM
Arry is a good wheeler dealer.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Orangemac on May 25, 2011, 11:47:04 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 25, 2011, 09:06:50 PM
Arry backed from 25 into 2-1 favourite tonight!!  :o

Redknapp is a decent manager but there is a touch of the Kevin Keegan about him, good motivator, likes to spend money but tactically not at the top level.

Thankless job for whoever takes over as they will not be completely in charge.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on May 26, 2011, 10:04:09 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 25, 2011, 09:14:02 PM
Arry is a good wheeler dealer.

Faaack Off!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Bingo on May 26, 2011, 10:11:39 AM
If Harry did get the job (and I hope he did, as I don't think he is near at Chelsea's desired level) how unbearable will Jamie and the Sky media become. The mind boggles.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Doogie Browser on May 26, 2011, 10:55:28 AM
In a sport of mercenaries he is the ultimate, has zero loyalty and the lure of the green is his raison d'etre.  Dodgy as fcuk to boot!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 04, 2011, 08:41:51 AM
Aarnesaan taking a few to Hamburg with him. Manciene for £3 million (!!!!) and Jacopa Sala for £1.5ish. Neither were going to make it at Chelsea anyhow. Manciene promised for a month or two, but Sala was never in the 'possible' category.

Good luck to the them..
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 17, 2011, 09:26:28 AM
Tough opener... Stoke away! Tough run in as well with Arsenal and Liverpool away on the cards. I think away to United is on AI Football Sunday (It'll be Sunday) which is a pain in the arse!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 18, 2011, 12:20:42 AM
Interesting quotes from Modric tonight....  ;D


"I would like to go to Chelsea. A lot of players would like to go there and play for Chelsea because it is one of the best clubs in the world, and so do I. I would like to play there. But we will see what will happen. Chelsea are a great club, they play in the Champions League every year, they have great players, they are ambitious and have an ambitious owner who wants to invest in the club and make it win the Champions League, the Premier League and other titles.

"They are going in a great direction and everything about the club is very good. They [Chelsea] are the only one who sent an offer and they are at the moment my first choice."


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: new devil on June 18, 2011, 02:50:56 PM
I'd say that would all change if united made an offer
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 18, 2011, 03:03:34 PM
Quote from: new devil on June 18, 2011, 02:50:56 PM
I'd say that would all change if united made an offer

Maybe. Maybe not.

I just think it's great as it's a real kick in the balls for Spurs!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on June 18, 2011, 04:38:57 PM
Quote from: new devil on June 18, 2011, 02:50:56 PM
I'd say that would all change if united made an offer

I'm sure he could have mentioned united if he had wanted to. Sounds like he wants to stay in London but not at Spurs.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Doogie Browser on June 20, 2011, 11:49:33 AM
Looks like the Porto manager Villas-Boas is going to get the Chelsea job now
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on June 20, 2011, 11:56:30 AM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on June 20, 2011, 11:49:33 AM
Looks like the Porto manager Villas-Boas is going to get the Chelsea job now

Yep Guardian reporting it's a done deal, but Hiddink might still be coming in a coaching/director role.  Have to confess I don't know much about this guy ???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 22, 2011, 03:14:20 AM
It will be a bad day if Chelsea appoint AVB. The first time ever I'll be older than the Chelsea boss!  >:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on June 22, 2011, 02:45:05 PM
Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas confirmed as Chelsea manager.  Speaks fluent English so has one up on John Terry already.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Boycey on June 22, 2011, 02:55:43 PM
Yet another example of a world gone mad, £13million transfer fee for a manager
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on June 22, 2011, 03:26:12 PM
Quote from: Boycey on June 22, 2011, 02:55:43 PM
Yet another example of a world gone mad, £13million transfer fee for a manager

Roman has already shelled out 60 odd million on paying off various management staff. Sure what's another 13m?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ross4life on June 22, 2011, 04:19:57 PM
Tipped to be the new Mourinho so no pressure then & like Jose he'll probably bring some of the Porto players to Chelsea with him like Falcao,Hulk etc..
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on June 29, 2011, 09:50:35 AM
Roberto Di Matteo to become Villas-Boas' first signing.

On the face of it, seems like a good move.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/29/roberto-di-matteo-chelsea-assistant
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 08, 2011, 10:43:54 PM
Why oh why wasn't Essien sold when the chance arose!  >:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 13, 2011, 11:00:44 AM
First friendly and a 3-0 win. Good to see Torres scoring, but what a goal by Benayoun!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOXj5m90Xt4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOXj5m90Xt4)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 11, 2011, 11:43:03 PM
So pre season is over and the fun's about to start again.

For once I am kind of glad that Chelsea's transfer activity has been moderate and bar the Modric saga, low key. So far just the two players in for £9 million (Courtois and Romeu) and six out. With roughly 15 million coming in from the likes of Zhirkov, Cork and Tore.

Of course it's expected that Lukaku will join too for around 18 million, but that's still to be confirmed.

I don't think at this stage that what we have is enough to win the league, but I think it's the right strategy. If rumours are true, Hiddink has been influencing Roman that a long term strategy re managers is required. Hence the young manager and all the sub 21 year olds in the in box. Definately the right think to do, even if it means a season or two with no league title.

What is definately required is a play maker a la Modric or someone of his ilk. However I think we are going to pay over the odds on Modric. We should be using the Fabregas price tag as an example to Spurs of the valuation in the current marker. Personally I'd have dropped interest weeks ago, and went after plan B. Maybe that's what they are doing. Who knows!

Up top Chelsea are very over subscribed when you consider, Kalou, Anelka, Drogba, Sturridge, Lukaku, and Torres. So I'd be surprised if one or two aren't culled before the end of the month. Considering the ACN is coming up, I'd imagine Kalou may go.

Tough opener on Sunday. The start of the AVB era! And the start of the whinging, and crying again!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Minder on August 12, 2011, 12:01:46 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 11, 2011, 11:43:03 PM
So pre season is over and the fun's about to start again.

For once I am kind of glad that Chelsea's transfer activity has been moderate and bar the Modric saga, low key. So far just the two players in for £9 million (Courtois and Romeu) and six out. With roughly 15 million coming in from the likes of Zhirkov, Cork and Tore.

Of course it's expected that Lukaku will join too for around 18 million, but that's still to be confirmed.

I don't think at this stage that what we have is enough to win the league, but I think it's the right strategy. If rumours are true, Hiddink has been influencing Roman that a long term strategy re managers is required. Hence the young manager and all the sub 21 year olds in the in box. Definately the right think to do, even if it means a season or two with no league title.

What is definately required is a play maker a la Modric or someone of his ilk. However I think we are going to pay over the odds on Modric. We should be using the Fabregas price tag as an example to Spurs of the valuation in the current marker. Personally I'd have dropped interest weeks ago, and went after plan B. Maybe that's what they are doing. Who knows!

Up top Chelsea are very over subscribed when you consider, Kalou, Anelka, Drogba, Sturridge, Lukaku, and Torres. So I'd be surprised if one or two aren't culled before the end of the month. Considering the ACN is coming up, I'd imagine Kalou may go.


Tough opener on Sunday. The start of the AVB era! And the start of the whinging, and crying again!
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on August 12, 2011, 12:02:29 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 11, 2011, 11:43:03 PM
So pre season is over and the fun's about to start again.

For once I am kind of glad that Chelsea's transfer activity has been moderate and bar the Modric saga, low key. So far just the two players in for £9 million (Courtois and Romeu) and six out. With roughly 15 million coming in from the likes of Zhirkov, Cork and Tore.

Of course it's expected that Lukaku will join too for around 18 million, but that's still to be confirmed.

I don't think at this stage that what we have is enough to win the league, but I think it's the right strategy. If rumours are true, Hiddink has been influencing Roman that a long term strategy re managers is required. Hence the young manager and all the sub 21 year olds in the in box. Definately the right think to do, even if it means a season or two with no league title.

What is definately required is a play maker a la Modric or someone of his ilk. However I think we are going to pay over the odds on Modric. We should be using the Fabregas price tag as an example to Spurs of the valuation in the current marker. Personally I'd have dropped interest weeks ago, and went after plan B. Maybe that's what they are doing. Who knows!

Up top Chelsea are very over subscribed when you consider, Kalou, Anelka, Drogba, Sturridge, Lukaku, and Torres. So I'd be surprised if one or two aren't culled before the end of the month. Considering the ACN is coming up, I'd imagine Kalou may go.

Tough opener on Sunday. The start of the AVB era! And the start of the whinging, and crying again!

Still think Daniel Sturridge is one to stick with for the future, not yet 22 and did very well at Bolton on loan last year.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: laoislad on August 23, 2011, 07:59:02 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 11, 2011, 11:43:03 PM


For once I am kind of glad that Chelsea's transfer activity has been moderate and bar the Modric saga, low key. So far just the two players in for £9 million (Courtois and Romeu) and six out. With roughly 15 million coming in from the likes of Zhirkov, Cork and Tore.



€75 mill spent in January
Lukaku signs for €18 million
Mata on his way for €26million
Modric likely to also arrive for what about €30 mill+

Yeah it's great to see Chelsea spending moderately alright  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ross4life on August 28, 2011, 12:29:19 AM
Drogba took a heavy hit yesterday  :o

(http://www.abload.de/img/drogba6kav.gif)

(http://images.football365.com/11/08/800x600/Chelsea-vs-Norwich-Didier-Drogba-Injured_2641950.jpg)

Mild concussion so he should be alright.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 30, 2011, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 23, 2011, 07:59:02 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 11, 2011, 11:43:03 PM


For once I am kind of glad that Chelsea's transfer activity has been moderate and bar the Modric saga, low key. So far just the two players in for £9 million (Courtois and Romeu) and six out. With roughly 15 million coming in from the likes of Zhirkov, Cork and Tore.



€75 mill spent in January
Lukaku signs for €18 million
Mata on his way for €26million
Modric likely to also arrive for what about €30 mill+

Yeah it's great to see Chelsea spending moderately alright  :D

A wee bit of selective quoting there.

Interesting day or two ahead with rumours of Benayoun, Alex, Malouda, Lakuku (Loan) all being shifted. Definitely top heavy at the minute.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 28, 2011, 10:12:59 PM
We must be back in Europe... Chelsea shafted again. Maybe not Orebo style but still. Three good penalty shouts turned down, and then Valencia given one.

Good game though. Torres was really unlucky with a shot, and an excellent header. The Valencia keeper's save from the header was among the best I've ever seen.

Four points from six is a decent return. Happy enough.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Orangemac on September 28, 2011, 11:05:12 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on September 28, 2011, 10:12:59 PM
We must be back in Europe... Chelsea shafted again. Maybe not Orebo style but still. Three good penalty shouts turned down, and then Valencia given one.

Good game though. Torres was really unlucky with a shot, and an excellent header. The Valencia keeper's save from the header was among the best I've ever seen.
Valenica keeper was brilliant tonight made 3 or 4 world class saves. Torres has looked sharp in the last few games, seems to be back at his old speed.

AVB has went about changing Chelsea team well so far. Bit more vibrancy about midfield,especially Mata. Still a couple of defenders way from challenging for CL/Prem though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 29, 2011, 12:15:01 AM
Quote from: Orangemac on September 28, 2011, 11:05:12 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on September 28, 2011, 10:12:59 PM
We must be back in Europe... Chelsea shafted again. Maybe not Orebo style but still. Three good penalty shouts turned down, and then Valencia given one.

Good game though. Torres was really unlucky with a shot, and an excellent header. The Valencia keeper's save from the header was among the best I've ever seen.
Valenica keeper was brilliant tonight made 3 or 4 world class saves. Torres has looked sharp in the last few games, seems to be back at his old speed.

AVB has went about changing Chelsea team well so far. Bit more vibrancy about midfield,especially Mata. Still a couple of defenders way from challenging for CL/Prem though.

I don't know if we are missing defenders as such, maybe missing a defensive system. AVB has done well, but you could see his inexperience tonight. Kalou for Lamps when defeding a lead!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Minder on October 02, 2011, 02:03:20 PM
4-0 up away to Bolton after 27 minutes !
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 02, 2011, 05:31:36 PM
Never seen the game, but a very good performance by the Blues. Still can't keep a clean sheet though!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 03, 2011, 08:39:41 PM
This is potentially big news for Chelsea http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2471443,00.html (http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2471443,00.html).

This can only mean a new ground is well in the pipeline OR less likely a proposed redevelopment of Stamford Bridge. The most obvious site is Earls Court.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: muppet on October 03, 2011, 08:46:45 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 03, 2011, 08:39:41 PM
This is potentially big news for Chelsea http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2471443,00.html (http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2471443,00.html).

This can only mean a new ground is well in the pipeline OR less likely a proposed redevelopment of Stamford Bridge. The most obvious site is Earls Court.

I'd have said St. Petersburg.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on October 23, 2011, 11:34:09 PM
Saurez lastweek and now Terry this week.!  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Minder on October 23, 2011, 11:41:52 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on October 23, 2011, 11:34:09 PM
Saurez lastweek and now Terry this week.!  :o

Both rumours as far as I knew.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 24, 2011, 12:02:36 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on October 23, 2011, 11:34:09 PM
Saurez lastweek and now Terry this week.!  :o

Fabregas as well.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 24, 2011, 04:06:07 PM
Chelsea are getting some seriously bad luck in terms of decisions this year.

Yesterday Foy was terrible. The Luiz penalty shoud've been a free out for an earlier shove by Helguson, and he should've awarded at least two penaltys to Chelsea yesterday. The stats tell it all. QPR 17 fouls and 1 (Maybe 2?) bookings, and Chelsae 16 fouls with 7 bookings and 2 reds.

Back in the real world, it was great seeing Chelsea totally doimate QPR in the 2nd half yesterday despite the 3 man disadvantage. On a day when United went down to 10 men and rolled over and died, Chelsea went down fighting. Not often I leave the pub after a bad defeat with a semblance of satisfaction!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on October 24, 2011, 06:27:22 PM
Drogba can have no complaints, a two footed off the ground tackle will get you red even if you "get some of" the ball.  With Chelsea already down to 10 men, his brains are abviously in his arse.

The Bosingwa red was touch and go.  Was it a foul?  It looked like six of one and half a dozen of the other to me.  If it was a foul was Bosingwa denying a clear goal scoring opportunity?  Obviously Foy didn't factor in that it was SWP with the ball and as Chelsea fans are all too aware it wouldn't be a clear goal scoring opportunity if he was a yard out!  I thought it was on the harsh side.

Amazingly Chelsea were the better side with 9 men.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 25, 2011, 04:19:28 PM
Re the whole Terry/ Ferdinand non thing, Ferdinand HAS to come out and say that Terry did what's alledged. If not the question needs to be asked why wait 48 hours before clearing someone's name?

What has Ferdinand jnr got to gain from all this? I mean it's not as if Terry took the England captaincy off his brother or nothing. Oh. Wait...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: new devil on October 25, 2011, 07:44:29 PM
(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/949/terrymp4.png)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: tyrone exile on October 25, 2011, 08:10:58 PM
i find that picture very offensive new devil, could you please remove it before i report u to a mod.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: new devil on October 25, 2011, 08:13:21 PM
 :D :D Sorry didn't think you were still a Chelsea fan...thought you would of moved on to City by now  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 27, 2011, 01:23:49 AM
A few players rested.

Down to 10 men again.

A trip to one of the league's hardest grounds in the Cup.

Some game time for a few of the youngsters and squad men.

A win.

Good night.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: carnaross on October 27, 2011, 07:38:40 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 25, 2011, 04:19:28 PM
Re the whole Terry/ Ferdinand non thing, Ferdinand HAS to come out and say that Terry did what's alledged. If not the question needs to be asked why wait 48 hours before clearing someone's name?

What has Ferdinand jnr got to gain from all this? I mean it's not as if Terry took the England captaincy off his brother or nothing. Oh. Wait...

Ah sure, Terry'll be ok now with nothing to answer for - Ashley Cole is willing to tell the FA he didn't hear Terry say anything racist to Ferdinand! Coming from such a paragon of virtue, it'll all die down now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: new devil on October 27, 2011, 08:57:31 AM
3 QPR players coming out saying they heard Terry...I really hope the FA have the balls to charge this sc**bag..after all they brushed the last one under the carpet well

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2053972/John-Terry-set-face-evidence-3-QPR-players.html
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on October 27, 2011, 02:01:06 PM
Quote from: new devil on October 27, 2011, 08:57:31 AM
3 QPR players coming out saying they heard Terry...I really hope the FA have the balls to charge this sc**bag..after all they brushed the last one under the carpet well

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2053972/John-Terry-set-face-evidence-3-QPR-players.html

Oh really??  Shaun Derry's statment should be short enough.  "I wasn't on the pitch at the time of the incident"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/oct/27/qpr-players-john-terry-racism-inquiry

QPR have denied reports that three of their players – Paddy Kenny, Clint Hill and Shaun Derry – have been called to give evidence in the FA's John Terry racism inquiry.

More than one report suggested that the Rangers players were ready to back their team-mate Anton Ferdinand's take on his altercation with the Chelsea captain during Sunday's west London derby at Loftus Road.

All three are understood to be unhappy that their names have been dragged into the saga, with Derry not on the field when the alleged incident took place.

A QPR spokesman said: "There is no truth in these stories whatsoever. None of the three players have been called to give evidence or will be called to give evidence."

Terry has said he welcomes the FA launching an inquiry as "an opportunity to clear my name". He will tell the panel that he was responding to what he assumed was an accusation of racist abuse, and was simply denying using the offensive words in the first place.

The Metropolitan Police are also assessing the case following an anonymous complaint from the member of the public
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: gawa316 on October 28, 2011, 10:20:51 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15489251.stm

Ferdinand definitely not denying it anyway
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on October 29, 2011, 01:58:05 PM
Some game today!  2-3 to Arsenal :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on October 29, 2011, 02:27:32 PM
Terry  :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: new devil on October 29, 2011, 02:29:59 PM
John Terry will probably blame a banana skin for him slipping  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Carmen Stateside on October 29, 2011, 02:36:00 PM
Some game. And there you go! Chelsea and John Terry have been horrible. Oh and another great game from that barbie look alike up front!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: new devil on October 29, 2011, 02:37:02 PM
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00491/01_terry_280x390_491959a.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: under the bar on October 29, 2011, 03:11:48 PM
If the authorities really wish to stamp out racism Terry should

a) be stripped of the england Captaincy

b) given a season long ban by the FA

c) be sacked by Chelsea

d) be put before the courts

Unfortunately none of the above will happen since the authorities only pay lip service to the eradication of racism and the saga will be suitably fudged and Terry probably get away with a warning over future conduct.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 29, 2011, 07:44:12 PM
Kids are going to knocking on John Terry's door on Monday wearing Robin van Persie masks.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on October 29, 2011, 08:00:33 PM
 :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Minder on October 29, 2011, 10:41:09 PM
Cech was pathetic today.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ross4life on October 29, 2011, 10:54:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 29, 2011, 10:41:09 PM
Cech was pathetic today.
The Cech of old would have saved at least 3 of those goals today.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: under the bar on October 30, 2011, 08:25:43 AM
So at what point in the season did cech lose his mojo?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: bridgegael on October 30, 2011, 09:30:43 AM
was arsenals forth goal really terrys fault?  a very poor pass from malouda i think,  even if he hadnt slipped he wouldnt have got to it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Jonah on October 30, 2011, 10:01:37 AM
Quote from: bridgegael on October 30, 2011, 09:30:43 AM
was arsenals forth goal really terrys fault?  a very poor pass from malouda i think,  even if he hadnt slipped he wouldnt have got to it.
I agree I don't think you could say it was all Terry's fault, he was never going to reach the pass anyways.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: new devil on October 30, 2011, 10:19:58 AM
(http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7027/42612395diabypa416copytr2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: norabeag on October 30, 2011, 01:15:54 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 30, 2011, 08:25:43 AM
So at what point in the season did cech lose his mojo?
Wasnt this season. He was supreme up until his tangle with Long?? HAs not been the same since.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: muppet on October 30, 2011, 06:46:23 PM
Quote from: norabeag on October 30, 2011, 01:15:54 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 30, 2011, 08:25:43 AM
So at what point in the season did cech lose his mojo?
Wasnt this season. He was supreme up until his tangle with Long?? HAs not been the same since.

Hunt.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2011, 10:23:31 AM
Love the tabloid style response on here where by Cech's finished after one bad game (Ignoring how good he was last year), and Terry's guilty with his punishment being debated (ignoring the fact that there is no apparent evidence against him). Wait and see on that one.

As for the Arsenal match. Geezuz. It's a long time since I saw a Chelsea team defend like that, but it has been coming. Even in some of the games where Chelsea have been on top this year, the opposition have been granted a chance or two, and on Saturday Arsenal (Due to having one of the world's best finishers on board) took 5 or 6 of the 7 chances they had.

People are quick to blame Terry for everything that goes wrong at Chelsea. I remember last year someone thought he was past it when we lost some game. Ignoring the fact he hadn't played in said game. On Saturday if you watch the first 20 -25 mins of the game, Terry was superb. Every move on the pitch started with a pass from him.

However the problem at the minute sits with personnel and formation. Bosingwa is a liability. He need to be dropped with Ivanovic going to RB. Alex should be back in as CB alonsgide Terry. AVB then needs to tell the back four to drop 15-20 yards deeper and play roughly 25 yards out from goal.

At the minute teams are playing over the defence and running past it. Chelsea's back line was never famed for speed, and was always set up so that teams had to play through them. They need to get back to that. If they want to play a high line Luiz must play, but unfortuantely the boy's rashness has been the source of too many errors to date, and he needs to get this out of his game.

Finally Cech was woeful too. No escaping that.

For all the flak the back line took, the forward trio of Mata, Torres and Sturridge shouldn't escape unpunished. In the first 25 minutes Chelsea ballsed up 2 or 3 one on ones. Essentially the game should've been put to bed earlier. Again more clinicism needed.

For me I'd put Orial Romeu (Who looks a very good player) into Mikel's role to see how he gets on.

The other point that can't be ignored is Schelney's foul on Cole. If a defender had've dived out and caught Cole like that it would've been a red card, and that's ignoring the fact that he prevented a clear goal scoring opportunity.

If anyone watched the Everton/ Chelsea game on Weds night, twice Distin fouled a Chelsea last man in the box. Not only was he not carded, there was no penalty.

Chelsea have been shockingly on the wrong side of the refs this year, and that luck has to change sometime. Hopefully soon.

However before looking for a change of luck they must firstly look for a change of ways.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 01, 2011, 11:59:26 AM
QuoteChelsea have been shockingly on the wrong side of the refs this year, and that luck has to change sometime. Hopefully soon.

Lukaku, defensive line block, Santos, Mata, goal...

Chesney should have sent off not for denying an obvious goal scoring chance as Cashley's touch was awful and Koscielny had it covered but for a dangerous tackle.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2011, 12:36:25 PM
That's what I said!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on November 01, 2011, 09:35:45 PM
Is AVB going to have a short stint at Chelsea? 3 poor results in a row will not please the Russian gangsta!

Had a couple of great chances to win but failed.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: gawa316 on November 01, 2011, 09:45:33 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 01, 2011, 09:35:45 PM
Is AVB going to have a short stint at Chelsea? 3 poor results in a row will not please the Russian gangsta!

Had a couple of great chances to win but failed.

Beating the bitters when down to 10 men was actually quite a good result
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2011, 09:49:54 PM
Not sure what you mean EC? An away win, a home defeat and an away Euro draw. Not great but not three bad results I'd of thought?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Go home ref on November 01, 2011, 10:51:39 PM
What the hell were Chelsea at allowing Luiz to take a penalty tonight?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on November 01, 2011, 11:02:27 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2011, 09:49:54 PM
Not sure what you mean EC? An away win, a home defeat and an away Euro draw. Not great but not three bad results I'd of thought?

My bad.
I was referring to the last 2 league results and the result tonight.

My point remains.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: orangeman on November 01, 2011, 11:07:04 PM
I'm hearng the Chelsea fans were singing about Anton Ferdinand tonight at the match - seems Terry and the fans have something in common.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Forever Green on November 01, 2011, 11:46:05 PM
Some Chelsea fans are and always have been scum. UDA team of choice
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 02, 2011, 12:46:02 AM
Amazing how its only a 'small' group of United and Pool fans who taunt the dead, but it's ALL Chelsea fans. Strange that!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: gawa316 on November 02, 2011, 07:29:16 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 02, 2011, 12:46:02 AM
Amazing how its only a 'small' group of United and Pool fans who taunt the dead, but it's ALL Chelsea fans. Strange that!

Let the defence rest your honour
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 02, 2011, 07:30:06 AM
"Anton Ferdinand, we know what you are", is that racist? Really???

Geezus half the board is in bother then for saying the same about Evra!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: gawa316 on November 02, 2011, 07:56:36 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 02, 2011, 07:30:06 AM
"Anton Ferdinand, we know what you are", is that racist? Really???

Geezus half the board is in bother then for saying the same about Evra!

Hardly doing terry any favours by keeping it in the public eye. And no it's not racist but c'mon everyone knows what they are referring to
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 02, 2011, 07:58:36 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on November 02, 2011, 07:56:36 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 02, 2011, 07:30:06 AM
"Anton Ferdinand, we know what you are", is that racist? Really???

Geezus half the board is in bother then for saying the same about Evra!

Hardly doing terry any favours by keeping it in the public eye. And no it's not racist but c'mon everyone knows what they are referring to

Agree on point one.
On point two they are calling him a lier, as per 'a small section' of the Lpool fans re Evra on here. Chelsea's official release called it inappropriate, and that's all it was.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: new devil on November 02, 2011, 08:18:21 AM
Norf have you seen the video of the "alleged" racist remark from Terry?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 02, 2011, 08:22:13 AM
Quote from: new devil on November 02, 2011, 08:18:21 AM
Norf have you seen the video of the "alleged" racist remark from Terry?

Yes.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: gawa316 on November 02, 2011, 08:24:44 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 02, 2011, 07:58:36 AM

Agree on point one.
On point two they are calling him a lier, as per 'a small section' of the Lpool fans re Evra on here. Chelsea's official release called it inappropriate, and that's all it was.

Well if true, could they not come up with a better chant as not only is it open to multiple interpretations but it is also shite
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: new devil on November 02, 2011, 09:01:14 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 02, 2011, 08:22:13 AM
Quote from: new devil on November 02, 2011, 08:18:21 AM
Norf have you seen the video of the "alleged" racist remark from Terry?

Yes.

So has a Chelsea fan whats your take on the whole thing?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: new devil on November 02, 2011, 09:07:52 AM
Quote from: Forever Green on November 01, 2011, 11:46:05 PM
Some Chelsea fans are and always have been scum. UDA team of choice

Some Celtic fans are and always have been scum. IRA team of choice  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 02, 2011, 09:23:50 AM
Quote from: new devil on November 02, 2011, 09:01:14 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 02, 2011, 08:22:13 AM
Quote from: new devil on November 02, 2011, 08:18:21 AM
Norf have you seen the video of the "alleged" racist remark from Terry?

Yes.

So has a Chelsea fan whats your take on the whole thing?

To be honest I haven't got a clue, and my naivety (Or care) to defend a £100,000 a week footballer has reduced over the years. I'd be surprised if he shouted what the media are hinting he did when you consider that he was surrounded by 4 or 5 players at the time.

In addition if he did say that, how come no one on either side heard him?

However we'll know more post the FA hearing which is being fast tracked much more than the Suarez/ Evra one!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: GJL on November 02, 2011, 10:30:08 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 02, 2011, 09:23:50 AM
Quote from: new devil on November 02, 2011, 09:01:14 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 02, 2011, 08:22:13 AM
Quote from: new devil on November 02, 2011, 08:18:21 AM
Norf have you seen the video of the "alleged" racist remark from Terry?

Yes.

So has a Chelsea fan whats your take on the whole thing?

To be honest I haven't got a clue, and my naivety (Or care) to defend a £100,000 a week footballer has reduced over the years. I'd be surprised if he shouted what the media are hinting he did when you consider that he was surrounded by 4 or 5 players at the time.

In addition if he did say that, how come no one on either side heard him?

However we'll know more post the FA hearing which is being fast tracked much more than the Suarez/ Evra one!

I think the reason it is being fast tracked is that there is clear evidence in Terry's case that most people have viewed (it is as clear as day what he said IMO). None in Suarez's.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 02, 2011, 02:15:46 PM
Give the Chelsea fans a break fss. It's the first chant they've come up with in about 20 years.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Bingo on November 02, 2011, 02:37:11 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on November 02, 2011, 02:15:46 PM
Give the Chelsea fans a break fss. It's the first chant they've come up with in about 20 years.

;D Will they get plastic KKK flags though for the home match?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on November 02, 2011, 02:58:57 PM
Chelsea are set to avoid disciplinary action over their fans' taunting of Anton Ferdinand during the club's Champions League game at Genk.

Uefa has confirmed that neither its match delegate nor the referee Svein Oddvar Moen made any mention in their reports of the abuse aimed at the Queens Park Rangers defender by a section of fans during the 1-1 Group E draw.  Had the officials alleged the chanting was of a racist nature, Uefa's disciplinary unit would have been forced to look into the matter. However, European football's governing body said it could still do so should "any other piece of evidence of such chanting be made available".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/02/chelsea-escape-censure-anton-ferdinand 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Bingo on November 02, 2011, 03:32:32 PM
Quote from: AQMP on November 02, 2011, 02:58:57 PM
Chelsea are set to avoid disciplinary action over their fans' taunting of Anton Ferdinand during the club's Champions League game at Genk.

Uefa has confirmed that neither its match delegate nor the referee Svein Oddvar Moen made any mention in their reports of the abuse aimed at the Queens Park Rangers defender by a section of fans during the 1-1 Group E draw.  Had the officials alleged the chanting was of a racist nature, Uefa's disciplinary unit would have been forced to look into the matter. However, European football's governing body said it could still do so should "any other piece of evidence of such chanting be made available".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/02/chelsea-escape-censure-anton-ferdinand

UEFA in common sense shocker  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Forever Green on November 02, 2011, 06:46:08 PM
Quote from: new devil on November 02, 2011, 09:07:52 AM
Quote from: Forever Green on November 01, 2011, 11:46:05 PM
Some Chelsea fans are and always have been scum. UDA team of choice

Some Celtic fans are and always have been scum. IRA team of choice  ::)

Some United fans are and always have been arseholes. Gloryhunters team of choice
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: new devil on November 03, 2011, 01:13:25 PM
Woshhhhhhh...guess that went right over your head....I should of knew better
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: thebigfella on November 03, 2011, 01:17:13 PM
In fairness though, the majority of Celtic (and Rangers) fans are thick as fcuk.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Forever Green on November 03, 2011, 06:27:41 PM
Fair enough lads, didn't really word that one right. Moving on
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 05, 2011, 08:14:41 PM
Overall poor performance today, but great to get a clean sheet and 3 points.

Anyone notice Cech, who is apparently past it, getting a broken nose but still playing on and making a few good saves? Or Lampard, past it too, continuing to be the main man in midfield, and the only one to show a semplance of experience in the last ten minutes?

Fernando had another bad miss today, as did Sturridge in the first half. Both went with the foot when heads would've done. Ironically Lampard headed his goal, when he proably should've went with the foot. Shows you.

A couple of strong penalty shouts turned down today again, thankfully it didn't cost.

Two week gap now before the dippers arrive! Should be fun!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Orangemac on November 06, 2011, 11:13:41 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 05, 2011, 08:14:41 PM
Overall poor performance today, but great to get a clean sheet and 3 points.

Anyone notice Cech, who is apparently past it, getting a broken nose but still playing on and making a few good saves? Or Lampard, past it too, continuing to be the main man in midfield, and the only one to show a semplance of experience in the last ten minutes?

Fernando had another bad miss today, as did Sturridge in the first half. Both went with the foot when heads would've done. Ironically Lampard headed his goal, when he proably should've went with the foot. Shows you.

A couple of strong penalty shouts turned down today again, thankfully it didn't cost.

Two week gap now before the dippers arrive! Should be fun!
Should be an interesting contest between Terry and Suarez. Who can come up the most offensive commnet ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ross4life on November 12, 2011, 09:16:17 PM
Jaysus Cech's Darth Vader look is almost complete
(http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Photo/competitions/Comp_Matches/01/71/52/43/1715243_w2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on November 20, 2011, 06:54:12 PM
AVB must be on thin ice.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ross4life on November 20, 2011, 07:08:47 PM
I'm too lazy to check but out of interest how many games did Jose Mourinho lose in his time with Chelsea he never lost at home that's for sure.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 20, 2011, 10:14:32 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Orangemac on November 20, 2011, 10:29:04 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 20, 2011, 07:08:47 PM
I'm too lazy to check but out of interest how many games did Jose Mourinho lose in his time with Chelsea he never lost at home that's for sure.
Think he lost 1 game in his 1st season.

You'd feel for AVB but he was never going to get 2 years to turn things around. Aging team which needs a lot of work and the £70m odd spent in January on Torres and Luiz must rank as the worst day of transfer business ever.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: nrico2006 on November 21, 2011, 08:51:51 AM
Surprised AVB is still at Chelsea, what is his total record so far with the club?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on November 21, 2011, 09:31:07 AM
IMHO, Chelsea's problems have little to do with the manager.  Time for the players to look in the mirror and admit that, based on the season so far, they're overpaid parcels of dung.  A few playing on past memories, too many content to take handy money and hide.  My only gripe with AVB is that it's clear the best striker at the club by a country mile is Daniel Sturridge and he should start every game.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: nrico2006 on November 21, 2011, 10:12:45 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 21, 2011, 09:31:07 AM
IMHO, Chelsea's problems have little to do with the manager.  Time for the players to look in the mirror and admit that, based on the season so far, they're overpaid parcels of dung.  A few playing on past memories, too many content to take handy money and hide.  My only gripe with AVB is that it's clear the best striker at the club by a country mile is Daniel Sturridge and he should start every game.

The buck stops with the manager though.  I do agree with you in that the players are obviously not performing, but its up to the manager to up their performance and select the best 11 and make the correct substitutions and have an adaptable strategy.  He seems to have got a lot more leeway than previous managers so far.  Chelseas problems stem from the fact that no matter what anybody says, their best 3 players (Terry, Lampard & Drogba) of the Abramovich era are only shadows of their former selves.  On top of that, they got rid of the main reason for their success aswell (Mourinho).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 23, 2011, 07:03:57 PM
Worried. No Ashley Cole and Alex on the bench again. I hope you know what you're at AVB.......


Chelsea:

1 Petr Cech
2 Branislav Ivanovic
4 David Luiz
26 John Terry (c)
17 Jose Bosingwa
7 Ramires
16 Raul Meireles
8 Frank Lampard
23 Daniel Sturridge
11 Didier Drogba
10 Juan Mata

Subs: 23 Ross Turnbull, 33 Alex, 12 John Mikel Obi, 20 Josh McEachran, 15 Florent Malouda, 21 Salomon Kalou, 9 Fernando Torres.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: gawa316 on November 23, 2011, 07:51:52 PM
A back 4 of Boswinga Ivan Terry Luiz would be alright. Luiz probably better suited to a fb role or even midfield until he learns to control the bap
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 23, 2011, 09:39:13 PM
Shafted again. How did the ref not give that pen nor the free on the edge of the box that took out Drogba.

Blew up a full minute early too!

Typical European night.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 23, 2011, 09:41:22 PM
Ballack was great in the second half. Some legs on him still.

Terry is done.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Forever Green on November 23, 2011, 09:45:41 PM
 :D  :D  :D

Well done Leverkusen
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ross4life on November 23, 2011, 09:46:27 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 23, 2011, 09:41:22 PM
Ballack was great in the second half. Some legs on him still.

Terry is done.
Yeah only for Cech (back to his best) & the post he would have scored a hat-trick.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on November 23, 2011, 09:50:52 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 20, 2011, 06:54:12 PM
AVB must be on thin ice.

thinner now.


Quote from: ross4life on November 23, 2011, 09:46:27 PM
[0 quote author=Tony Baloney link=topic=1310.msg1049539#msg1049539 date=1322084482]
Ballack was great in the second half. Some legs on him still.

Terry is done.
Yeah only for Cech (back to his best) & the post he would have scored a hat-trick.
[/quote]

Not for the second goal.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: seafoid on November 23, 2011, 10:16:18 PM
Man City should dump Mancini and kidnap Villas Boas. He deserves something better than Chelsea. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Orangemac on November 24, 2011, 12:01:06 AM
3 away games that Chelsea have had in CL that they should have won and ended up winning none.

There is a general malaise at Chelsea and as someone has said a large part of that is down to the decline of Terry,Lampard,Drogba. No real leadership on the pitch tonight.

How Bosingwa is still there is a joke.

I wonder will Roman get fed up and pull the plug soon? S**t would really hit the fan then.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ONeill on November 24, 2011, 12:08:10 AM
Chelsea are probably just returning to the club they always were. They won the league once before Roman bought the place, in the mid-50s, inspired by Arsenal legend Ted Drake. The real Chelsea are a well-run London outfit who now and again would challenge for the title and have a hooligan following. RA's era is a false period in their history and as soon as they get rid of the Russian they can return to their roots and become the real Chelsea again.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ballinaman on November 24, 2011, 09:45:30 AM
AVB: Another victim at bridge
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: under the bar on November 24, 2011, 10:04:57 AM
Ok lets have a sweep on how many more defeats AVB is from the chop.  I say 3.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 24, 2011, 10:10:45 AM
If Chelsea don't qualify for the next phase of CL then he's gone. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 24, 2011, 10:16:06 AM
The stalwarts of the team are getting long in the tooth so would Abramovich not be better giving AVB some cash during the next transfer window and accept that they might have a season of rebuilding next year.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: sammymaguire on November 29, 2011, 09:38:30 PM
Bit more pressure on AVB after tonight's result and maybe Steve Kean has won the sack race after losing to Cardiff...?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Forever Green on November 29, 2011, 09:44:34 PM
I know Abramovich likes wasting his money but surely he will give AVB the time to rebuild this side?? Massive clearout needed before progress can be made. He has to be on big wages and they have already paid £15m to get him from Porto. Said at the time he should have stayed with Porto for a couple more years
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on November 29, 2011, 09:47:02 PM
Feel a bit sorry for AVB. The players are just not doing it for him. Torres has went from being one of the best stikers in the world to being one of the poorest in the premier league!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 29, 2011, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 29, 2011, 09:47:02 PM
Feel a bit sorry for AVB. The players are just not doing it for him. Torres has went from being one of the best stikers in the world to being one of the poorest in the premier league!

For Torres and Babel we got Suarez and Carroll. While Carroll may not be setting the world alight he played much better tonight despite the penalty miss. I can't believe how poor Ladyboy has become. He is a shadow of the player he was 18 months ago and is really going down as THE biggest flop in PL history since his move. AVB deserves time to rebuild but will he get it?  Failure to qualify from group stages of CL would seal his fate maybe.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2011, 10:07:01 PM
Think of the blinkers BC1, Torres would still attract interest from the top clubs, Andy Carrol wouldn't interest the local glue factory.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 29, 2011, 10:12:03 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2011, 10:07:01 PM
Think of the blinkers BC1, Torres would still attract interest from the top clubs.

Judging by the Chelsea forums tonight most of their fans would offer to drive him to his next club.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AZOffaly on November 29, 2011, 10:21:56 PM
I'd take him back. I bet Dalglish could get him playing again.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 29, 2011, 10:29:26 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2011, 10:07:01 PM
Think of the blinkers BC1, Torres would still attract interest from the top clubs, Andy Carrol wouldn't interest the local glue factory.

Be that as it may at the minute he is playing shite and has been consistently poor for the last year or more. Chelsea paid £50m and the return on the investment is worthless at the minute. Carroll is not playing well either but he played better tonight. Suarez is playing well. The point I am making is that Liverpool certainly got the better end of the deal than Chelsea. BTW, I too would take him back in a heart beat as I feel he would perform for Liverpool and Kenny but it won't happen.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: From the Bunker on November 29, 2011, 10:37:25 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2011, 10:07:01 PM
Think of the blinkers BC1, Torres would still attract interest from the top clubs, Andy Carrol wouldn't interest the local glue factory.

Andy Carroll born 6 January 1989. Fernando Torres 20 March 1984. 5 years is a long time in football!

Five years ago Jose was manager of Chelsea.

Liverpool won the FA Cup with the following starting line-up; Reina, Finnan, Carragher, Hyypia, Riise, Gerrard (c), Alonso, Sissoko, Kewell, Cissé, Crouch
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 29, 2011, 10:51:00 PM
Feel sorry for AVB aswell he's like a rabbit caught in the headlights.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2011, 11:01:45 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 29, 2011, 10:37:25 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2011, 10:07:01 PM
Think of the blinkers BC1, Torres would still attract interest from the top clubs, Andy Carrol wouldn't interest the local glue factory.

Andy Carroll born 6 January 1989. Fernando Torres 20 March 1984. 5 years is a long time in football!

Five years ago Jose was manager of Chelsea.

Liverpool won the FA Cup with the following starting line-up; Reina, Finnan, Carragher, Hyypia, Riise, Gerrard (c), Alonso, Sissoko, Kewell, Cissé, Crouch

Seriously! The blind loyalty is admirable but Torres at that age had scored close to a hundred goals in almost 250 appearances and had 14 international goals. Andy Carroll had scored 11 EPL goals by the time he moved to Liverpool.

There is no comparison, he may come good but I wouldn't bet any money on it..
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 29, 2011, 11:06:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2011, 11:01:45 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 29, 2011, 10:37:25 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2011, 10:07:01 PM
Think of the blinkers BC1, Torres would still attract interest from the top clubs, Andy Carrol wouldn't interest the local glue factory.

Andy Carroll born 6 January 1989. Fernando Torres 20 March 1984. 5 years is a long time in football!

Five years ago Jose was manager of Chelsea.

Liverpool won the FA Cup with the following starting line-up; Reina, Finnan, Carragher, Hyypia, Riise, Gerrard (c), Alonso, Sissoko, Kewell, Cissé, Crouch

Seriously! The blind loyalty is admirable but Torres at that age had scored close to a hundred goals in almost 250 appearances and had 14 international goals. Andy Carroll had scored 11 EPL goals by the time he moved to Liverpool.

There is no comparison, he may come good but I wouldn't bet any money on it..

News flash Dinny, no one thinks Carroll is within an asses roar of Torres when Torres is fit and playing well.  He isn't though and the reality is that Carroll is actually playing better than him(which illustrates how poorly he is playing).  The point the bunker man is making is that Carroll has time on his hands and may come good.  Like you I have some doubts about that but he is in a good place to improve.  Surely a Gunner should be worrying how they'll replace RVP when he goes to Madrid in July 2012.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2011, 11:15:04 PM
Arsenal are meritocratically run club and if that means selling a 29 year old injury prone RVP to Madrid for a bucket load of cash so be it and at least the money won't be wasted on such poor ROI investments as Carroll, Henderson and Downing instead it will spent on some 15 year old from the Republic of Djibouti and so the cycle begins again....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on November 29, 2011, 11:18:51 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 29, 2011, 10:29:26 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2011, 10:07:01 PM
Think of the blinkers BC1, Torres would still attract interest from the top clubs, Andy Carrol wouldn't interest the local glue factory.

Be that as it may at the minute he is playing shite and has been consistently poor for the last year or more. Chelsea paid £50m and the return on the investment is worthless at the minute. Carroll is not playing well either but he played better tonight. Suarez is playing well. The point I am making is that Liverpool certainly got the better end of the deal than Chelsea. BTW, I too would take him back in a heart beat as I feel he would perform for Liverpool and Kenny but it won't happen.

You are right there. Liverpool have done better but I would suggest Newcastle are the biggest winners in the whole thing!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Bingo on November 30, 2011, 09:59:50 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2011, 11:15:04 PM
Arsenal are meritocratically run club and if that means selling a 29 year old injury prone RVP to Madrid for a bucket load of cash so be it and at least the money won't be wasted on such poor ROI investments as Carroll, Henderson and Downing instead it will spent on some 15 year old from the Republic of Djibouti and so the trophyless cycle begins again....

Seriously? You think selling RVP is a positive move and that Arsenal won't waste the cash? You not seen some of their signings play - Koscienly 10m, Arshavin 15m, Rosicky 7m, Hleb 12m, Reyes 13m, Jeffers 8m - the current signings of Gervinho 11m and Arteta 10m have a long road to go as well. So yes, every chance that they could well "waste" the money  :D

Re Torres and Carroll - without doubt both have failed to live up to their price tag but their was only one of them who tried last night in a game where Torres should have been busting his hole to prove a point after sitting out a few games, thats even without the fact it was against Liverpool. On last nights display there is only one of them who wants to prove himself and Carroll has worked hard and scored bigger goals than Torres has since the move.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 30, 2011, 10:16:58 AM
Quote from: Bingo on November 30, 2011, 09:59:50 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2011, 11:15:04 PM
Arsenal are meritocratically run club and if that means selling a 29 year old injury prone RVP to Madrid for a bucket load of cash so be it and at least the money won't be wasted on such poor ROI investments as Carroll, Henderson and Downing instead it will spent on some 15 year old from the Republic of Djibouti and so the trophyless cycle begins again....

Seriously? You think selling RVP is a positive move and that Arsenal won't waste the cash? You not seen some of their signings play - Koscienly 10m, Arshavin 15m, Rosicky 7m, Hleb 12m, Reyes 13m, Jeffers 8m - the current signings of Gervinho 11m and Arteta 10m have a long road to go as well. So yes, every chance that they could well "waste" the money  :D

Re Torres and Carroll - without doubt both have failed to live up to their price tag but their was only one of them who tried last night in a game where Torres should have been busting his hole to prove a point after sitting out a few games, thats even without the fact it was against Liverpool. On last nights display there is only one of them who wants to prove himself and Carroll has worked hard and scored bigger goals than Torres has since the move.

And if you want to be completely anal about it Carroll has cost £8.75m per goal whereas Torres cost £16.66m per goal, but that would be purely anal :P

As for RVP, sure Wenger has a ready made replacement in Chamakh, great success!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2011, 10:28:59 AM
Quote from: Bingo on November 30, 2011, 09:59:50 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2011, 11:15:04 PM
Arsenal are meritocratically run club and if that means selling a 29 year old injury prone RVP to Madrid for a bucket load of cash so be it and at least the money won't be wasted on such poor ROI investments as Carroll, Henderson and Downing instead it will spent on some 15 year old from the Republic of Djibouti and so the trophyless cycle begins again....

Seriously? You think selling RVP is a positive move and that Arsenal won't waste the cash? You not seen some of their signings play - Koscienly 10m, Arshavin 15m, Rosicky 7m, Hleb 12m, Reyes 13m, Jeffers 8m - the current signings of Gervinho 11m and Arteta 10m have a long road to go as well. So yes, every chance that they could well "waste" the money  :D


Poor examples (there are better ones). Koscielny is looking like a 10m player this year. 2 MOTM performances recently at full back. Arsenal made money on Hleb and Reyes. Rosicky 7m looks about right in today's money. Arshavin looked every bit a 15m player in his first season but is not working out that way right now. Jeffers was a waste of money.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 30, 2011, 10:31:34 AM
Big straws there Bingo, that's the same Gervinho who has 2 goals and 5 assists compared to 0/0 from Downing and 1/0 from Henderson at less than a 1/3 of their combined price  ??? the same Koscienly that has just got his first cap for France and has been outstanding despite been surrounded by a sea of mediocrity  ???, the same Hleb that was sold for a profit  ???, the same Arteta 3/1 who cost half of Henderson and has been instrumental in Arsenal's rise up the EPL  ???  The same Reyes who couldn't settle in London but still had a good first and second season 66 appearances 17 goals and was sold for the same amount he cost  ??? The same Arshavin who had a pretty good two seasons and a half 106 appearance 28 goals 33 assists prior to this year when has been pants, anyhow I'll give you him for the craic based on this seasons form and the fox in the box who was just awful. So do you actually have an interest in soccer or just post for the hell of it  ::) Seriously, anyhow I'm sure the Chelsea boys have no interest in blind 'my dick is bigger than you dick logic' so we all just agree Carroll, Hederson and Downing have been sh*t buys so far but they are young and may come good.....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 30, 2011, 10:38:27 AM
QuoteAs for RVP, sure Wenger has a ready made replacement in Chamakh, great success!

Yep an absolute waste of £35m that lad, oh no wait he was free and he still scored 8 goals and 6 assists in 35 games, what's that I hear big Andy has scored 4 goals in 19 appearances yep that's right folks everyone knows how crap the big Moroccan is but he's still a better player than Newcastle's finest...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 30, 2011, 10:46:37 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 30, 2011, 10:38:27 AM
QuoteAs for RVP, sure Wenger has a ready made replacement in Chamakh, great success!

Yep an absolute waste of £35m that lad, oh no wait he was free and he still scored 8 goals and 6 assists in 35 games, what's that I hear big Andy has scored 4 goals in 19 appearances yep that's right folks everyone knows how crap the big Moroccan is but he's still a better player than Newcastle's finest...

He's still crap!

Anyway, back to Chelsea and Liverpool, Torres may be shifted in the January sales and I wonder would he be considered as an option back to Liverpool.  He could be picked on for a good price I reckon.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: deiseach on November 30, 2011, 10:55:56 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 30, 2011, 10:46:37 AM
Anyway, back to Chelsea and Liverpool, Torres may be shifted in the January sales and I wonder would he be considered as an option back to Liverpool.  He could be picked on for a good price I reckon.

Won't happen. There hasn't been a day gone by since February where Nando hasn't attempted to justify his decision to leave. He's made his bed.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on November 30, 2011, 11:50:31 AM
Quote from: deiseach on November 30, 2011, 10:55:56 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 30, 2011, 10:46:37 AM
Anyway, back to Chelsea and Liverpool, Torres may be shifted in the January sales and I wonder would he be considered as an option back to Liverpool.  He could be picked on for a good price I reckon.

Won't happen. There hasn't been a day gone by since February where Nando hasn't attempted to justify his decision to leave. He's made his bed.

I would guess if he moves it will be out of the EPL.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Denn Forever on November 30, 2011, 12:04:33 PM
I see Torres has gone blond again.  Good for him. He always did his best work as a blond.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Bingo on November 30, 2011, 12:11:55 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 30, 2011, 11:50:31 AM
Quote from: deiseach on November 30, 2011, 10:55:56 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 30, 2011, 10:46:37 AM
Anyway, back to Chelsea and Liverpool, Torres may be shifted in the January sales and I wonder would he be considered as an option back to Liverpool.  He could be picked on for a good price I reckon.

Won't happen. There hasn't been a day gone by since February where Nando hasn't attempted to justify his decision to leave. He's made his bed.

I would guess if he moves it will be out of the EPL.

Is it PSG and Malaga that have came into the money - i'm sure one of these would be tempted to take a chance on him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on December 03, 2011, 03:04:50 PM
0-3.  Nice one ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on December 03, 2011, 03:23:52 PM
Anelka & Alex off next month
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Forever Green on December 03, 2011, 04:04:05 PM
Great game that was. Newcastle were unlucky not getting at least a couple of goals but Chelsea could very easily had a couple more as well. Without a doubt, Luiz should have been sent off at the start but in the end, you cant argue with Chelsea deserving to win
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 06, 2011, 06:55:43 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on December 03, 2011, 04:04:05 PM
Great game that was. Newcastle were unlucky not getting at least a couple of goals but Chelsea could very easily had a couple more as well. Without a doubt, Luiz should have been sent off at the start but in the end, you cant argue with Chelsea deserving to win

Never noticed this comment there. Fair in the main, and it was a great game. Luiz definitely should've went for what the ref seen. However Ba was actually offside. Even SKY said something like, technically he was offside but it was too tight to call. Regardless.

Re tonight. Biggest game of the season and Lampard on the bench. Changing of the guard.

That's the only change to the X1 from Saturday.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: gerry on December 06, 2011, 07:00:50 PM
There has been a bit of confusion about this - and I may be about to upset quite a few Chelsea fans. Despite widespread reports that a 0-0 draw will be enough to send Chelsea through, it won't be if Bayer Leverkusen lose. That is because Leverkusen, Chelsea and Valencia will then all be on nine points in Group E, creating a mini-league in which the trio's results against Genk are disregarded and in which Leverkusen top the group ahead of Valencia who have scored one more goal than the Blues. In the eventuality of a Bayer Leverkusen defeat, only a Chelsea win will see them through. If Bayer Leverksuen win or draw, however, Chelsea can go through with a win or a 0-0. Got that? No? My brain hurts.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ross4life on December 06, 2011, 07:21:29 PM
Quote from: gerry on December 06, 2011, 07:00:50 PM
There has been a bit of confusion about this - and I may be about to upset quite a few Chelsea fans. Despite widespread reports that a 0-0 draw will be enough to send Chelsea through, it won't be if Bayer Leverkusen lose. That is because Leverkusen, Chelsea and Valencia will then all be on nine points in Group E, creating a mini-league in which the trio's results against Genk are disregarded and in which Leverkusen top the group ahead of Valencia who have scored one more goal than the Blues. In the eventuality of a Bayer Leverkusen defeat, only a Chelsea win will see them through. If Bayer Leverksuen win or draw, however, Chelsea can go through with a win or a 0-0. Got that? No? My brain hurts.
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr5qd3Thth1qc0892.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: The Worker on December 06, 2011, 07:29:33 PM
chelsea will win by 2/3 goals tonight, no need to worry about the other game.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Forever Green on December 06, 2011, 07:33:07 PM
Valencia to win 2-1 tonight. They are in great form atm with a top class striker in Soldado. Chelsea CB`S will need to have a massive game tonight to keep Valencia quiet.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Forever Green on December 06, 2011, 08:42:14 PM
Well, my prediction was badly wrong. Valencia playing a lot of good football so they still have a chance of getting back into the game. Chelsea look dangerous on the break and Drogba has been immense
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: the Deel Rover on December 06, 2011, 08:48:29 PM
Chelsea in control . Who is the doll on the chelsea bench ?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ross4life on December 06, 2011, 08:50:26 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on December 06, 2011, 08:48:29 PM
Chelsea in control . Who is the doll on the chelsea bench ?
Good question she caught my eye.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Forever Green on December 06, 2011, 09:43:07 PM
Aye, thon wee Chelsea team doctor is fit. Eva Carneiro is her name  ;D

(http://www.forest.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/get-attachment.asp?action-view&attachmentid=1202)

(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/379382_269835343062019_226129340765953_745592_623446273_n.jpg)

Do you think AVB is at her???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ross4life on December 06, 2011, 09:51:56 PM
No idea but i can imagine a lot of Chelsea's injuries nowadays are groin pains.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: the Deel Rover on December 06, 2011, 09:56:31 PM
Does she do nixers suffering from an auld groin injury myself at the moment
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: sammymaguire on December 06, 2011, 10:05:14 PM
If that is her normal face, I really wouldn't like to see her throwing me a dirty look, I would say she could fire out some serious daggers if you pissed her off  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: the Deel Rover on December 06, 2011, 10:08:33 PM
No thats her dug out face sammy . She left her normal face at home
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Minder on December 06, 2011, 10:10:52 PM
@TheBig_Sam

Honestly, If I was a Chelsea player I'd be getting treatment off her constantly. "Sponge me, señorita," I'd purr gently. "Sponge me raw."
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 06, 2011, 10:12:54 PM
she looks a bit like Lampards woman after you take a syringe to her lips !
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: the Deel Rover on December 06, 2011, 10:17:04 PM
I doubt she sounds like her
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: muppet on December 06, 2011, 10:35:39 PM
It's their new sub goalie, Paulo Di Galveno.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ONeill on December 06, 2011, 11:31:10 PM
Happy for Drogba. When Chelsea need to prove something, he steps up. A great warrior at times.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: new devil on December 12, 2011, 08:39:45 PM
Come on the blues  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 12, 2011, 08:46:38 PM
El Cashico is a good game thus far.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Hashtag on December 12, 2011, 08:48:54 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 12, 2011, 08:46:38 PM
El Cashico is a good game thus far.

Enjoying it. looks like there could be a few more goals on the cards. City with a great start but chelsea well on top at the break.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on December 12, 2011, 09:15:02 PM
Go on the chavs ;D  doubt if both teams will finish with 11.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 12, 2011, 09:23:36 PM
Clichy off Yaya yaya,Kompany walking a tightrope.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on December 12, 2011, 09:42:14 PM
Get in there fat frank ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 12, 2011, 09:53:06 PM
He didn't score tonight but Sturridge won that game for Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2011, 06:56:38 AM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2dkzgpu.jpg)

I wonder will the FA want another wee look at Toure's behavior tonight?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on December 13, 2011, 09:28:29 AM
Credit to Mata, going down and rolling around might have got Toure the line.

Big win for Chelsea. To be honest, could have been 0-3 before Meireles scored.  Good second half and were on top after the red card and I'd say the 3 pts were just about deserved  Didn't like Lampard's humpy post match interview though.  Whatever happened to "it's not about me,it's about the team/club"?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: paco on December 13, 2011, 10:01:25 AM
What did Lampard say? Did he do much apart from the penalty? He's been getting a lot of attention from the press since last night, it's amazing how they can go from claiming that he's on his way out to him being back to his best/Chelsea's main man, all because of a penalty.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Bingo on December 13, 2011, 10:27:29 AM
Chelsea showed show character last night that they haven't always shown this season. Maybe AVB is starting to have the team playing his way but they rode their luck for first 25 mins - could that be due to the early goal that forced them into playing a high line again?

Gary Neville (as much as it pains me to say it, is excellent) before the game highlighted how different teams have played Silva, Lucas been the most effective and he shown how. He then showed that Romeu has played a similar role to this in recent games and he would be vital to nullify Silva and other City players that drop into the hole. As the game played out, he was very impressive I thought. Could he be the type of player that Chelsea have been crying out for.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Denn Forever on December 13, 2011, 11:20:00 AM
Quote from: paco on December 13, 2011, 10:01:25 AM
What did Lampard say?

He said he feels as fit as he has ever, can't understand why hes not playing.  Oh, he hasn't talked to the manager.

Is this possble?  Who takes training?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 13, 2011, 11:21:21 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2011, 06:56:38 AM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2dkzgpu.jpg)

I wonder will the FA want another wee look at Toure's behavior tonight?

I hope Joey Baton sees this and I expect Gervinho is asking the same question...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: gawa316 on December 15, 2011, 11:45:55 AM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/13/article-2073746-0F2ABBB200000578-80_468x286.jpg)

Interesting pic
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Bingo on December 15, 2011, 12:06:38 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 15, 2011, 11:45:55 AM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/13/article-2073746-0F2ABBB200000578-80_468x286.jpg)

Interesting pic

Is he smelling your mans arse in front or waiting on the pelvic trusts of the man standing up  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on December 15, 2011, 01:34:32 PM
There was some paper talk linking David Villa with a move to Chelsea in January.  While this was probably a load of balls it definitely won't be happening now.  Sadly Villa has broken his leg in the World Club Champs:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/dec/15/david-villa-six-months-breaking-leg

The Barcelona striker David Villa faces up to six months out of the game after breaking his left leg in Barcelona's Fifa Club World Cup semi-final win over Al-Sadd in Yokohama.

Villa, who had been linked with a multi-million pound move to England in the January transfer window, suffered a fractured tibia while challenging for a ball in the Al-Sadd penalty area. He was taken to the Yokohama Rosa hospital.

The injury means Spain are likely to be without their leading striker for the defence of their title at Euro 2012 in Poland and Ukraine. The 30-year-old is Spain's all-time top scorer with 50 goals in 81 appearances.

"We are going to miss Villa," the Barcelona midfielder Thiago Alcantara said. "We hope it isn't too bad. When you play you never think that these things can happen. It was bad luck." He added: "There is a long way to go [until Euro 2012]." Barcelona won the game comfortably 4-0, and will face Santos in the final on Sunday. The Brazilian defender Adriano scored twice in the first half – his opener helped by a moment of hesitation from the Al-Sadd goalkeeper Mohamed Saqr. After the break, Seydou Keita and Maxwell added another two to complete a comprehensive win.

On Wednesday the Barça coach, Pep Guardiola, had denied the club had been actively trying to sell the 30-year-old Villa only 19 months into the four-year deal agreed following his €40m (£33.5m) transfer from Valencia.

Villa scored five times in 15 league appearances this season, following his 18 goals in 34 games as Barça won the Primera División title last season.


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Doogie Browser on December 15, 2011, 01:44:34 PM
Sad news for Barca and Spain but better news for Ireland I suppose.  Talk of him and Messi having major row at Barca recently.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on December 16, 2011, 11:18:10 AM
Napoli...one of the tougher draws on offer :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 19, 2011, 04:09:50 PM
Just an update for those who'd be asking in the past. The first football icon winner, Carl Magnay, has been released. Good attitude, but never at the top level.

He could make a decent living in the lower leagues I'd say. Maybe non-league.

He played his final game in today's 4-0 win over Arsenal reserves.

http://thechels.net/2011/12/reserves-arsenal-0-4-chelsea/ (http://thechels.net/2011/12/reserves-arsenal-0-4-chelsea/)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: The Worker on December 19, 2011, 04:40:32 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 15, 2011, 11:45:55 AM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/13/article-2073746-0F2ABBB200000578-80_468x286.jpg)

Interesting pic

is this from last weekends game?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: gawa316 on December 19, 2011, 05:00:37 PM
Quote from: The Worker on December 19, 2011, 04:40:32 PM


is this from last weekends game?

Think it was against Citee
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on December 20, 2011, 09:34:03 PM
If the English FA are consistent in any way I would say Terry is up shite creek now! Would not hold my breath though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 20, 2011, 09:35:43 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on December 20, 2011, 09:34:03 PM
If the English FA are consistent in any way I would say Terry is up shite creek now! Would not hold my breath though.

If he's guilty.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on December 20, 2011, 09:52:16 PM
All joking aside norf. I'm sure you have seen the video coverage of the Terry incident. Do you believe his explaination that he was asking " did you just say I called you a....." ? It is grasping at straws I think.

Read elsewhere that different video footage is available of the exchange so that should clear it up.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 20, 2011, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on December 20, 2011, 09:52:16 PM
All joking aside norf. I'm sure you have seen the video coverage of the Terry incident. Do you believe his explaination that he was asking " did you just say I called you a....." ? It is grasping at straws I think.

Read elsewhere that different video footage is available of the exchange so that should clear it up.

It could be true. It is plausible. However I haven't got a clue if it's true or not. I wasn't there. You could argue about his past discretions or about the amount of work he has done for the Kick Racism Out campaign, but in the heat of a game we all do/ say things we don't mean. He was surrounded by other players and the ref at the said time, and none of them flinched. That might say something.

I am not too sure how true that 'other' camera story is. Only SKY cameras would have been at the game, and there would've been more on that at this stage, and a lot sooner.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 21, 2011, 12:55:05 PM
CPS announcement imminent re JT.

Emergency services on stand-by on Merseyside.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: new devil on December 21, 2011, 01:08:15 PM
It has been swept under the carpet before so i wouldn't be surprised if it happen again
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 21, 2011, 01:10:11 PM
Quote from: new devil on December 21, 2011, 01:08:15 PM
It has been swept under the carpet before so i wouldn't be surprised if it happen again

Each case should be dealt with on its own merits. That's how justice works.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 21, 2011, 02:20:38 PM
Feb 1st before we know what happens to Mr Terry.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Geoff Tipps on December 21, 2011, 02:30:48 PM
Terry will face charges.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 21, 2011, 02:53:26 PM
Read the maximum punishment if found guilty is a fine of 2500 quid
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 21, 2011, 02:59:32 PM
Good to see the justice system in place.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on December 21, 2011, 04:26:18 PM
Terry will get a serious ban now too. I would say it has to be more than Saurez'.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 21, 2011, 04:55:13 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on December 21, 2011, 04:26:18 PM
Terry will get a serious ban now too. I would say it has to be more than Saurez'.

You do released he hasn't been found guilty of anything??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on December 21, 2011, 05:00:21 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on December 21, 2011, 04:26:18 PM
Terry will get a serious ban now too. I would say it has to be more than Saurez'.

The FA will not look at this situation until after the outcome of any trial
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Doogie Browser on December 21, 2011, 05:09:09 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16284813
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Doogie Browser on December 21, 2011, 05:10:35 PM
Could this - in theory - take us well into next year?  If so he would not face FA charges until Euro 2012 may be over!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 21, 2011, 06:46:05 PM
The 'second camera' is probably a worry for Terry. However the CPS wanted Terry charged before re the night club incident back 10-12 years ago.

It was laughable when that CCTV footage was seen that it went to court at all.

Therefore it'll be a wait and see job.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: The Worker on December 21, 2011, 06:49:30 PM
theres talk of a 12 game ban for terry on twitter  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on December 22, 2011, 09:57:47 AM
It's a measure of the society that Britain is, and the apparent "value" of the England CaptainTM brand that this was the lead story on the BBC News at Ten last night. 

Bit of a difficult one for the FA. 

I expect they will move over the captain's "job" soon enough as they caved in to tabloid pressure when Terry was wrongly accused of having an affair with Wayne Brdge's ex girlfriend.  However to ban Terry before the court case would be a risky move.  What if they ban him and he is then cleared by the court?  The FA would look a bit silly.  Mind you it is expected that the iniital hearing will be adjourned for up to 10 weeks, which would take us into the middle of April.  If he is found guilty then the FA would charge him with something and you're looking at a ban sometime in May with the Euros around the corner....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 22, 2011, 10:12:15 PM
Good game. A bit disapointed not to win it considering the half chances we made. Unfortunately the kept falling to the wrong players.

Can't believe the SKY boys haven't mentioned some big decisions. Adebayor booked early, and commiited two potential yellow card offences in the second half. Even the goal which was onside was handball, and if the linesman hadn't of flagged it would've been a yellow too.

Also when Bale was booked the ref should've let the game go as Chelsea had broke 2 on 2 with Sturridge scampering away.

Thems the breaks.

Some clearance by JT at the end there!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on December 23, 2011, 05:52:35 PM
Terry should get himself into trouble more often.  He plays better...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Minder on December 24, 2011, 10:43:59 AM
Deary me, did Terry write this article himself ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2078170/The-picture-shows-caring-John-Terry-poses-Hamleys-black-baby.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 24, 2011, 12:20:06 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 24, 2011, 10:43:59 AM
Deary me, did Terry write this article himself ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2078170/The-picture-shows-caring-John-Terry-poses-Hamleys-black-baby.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

The most embarassing part of that article is that part re Suarez. Cringe worthy.

Anyhow. Merry Christmas Minder. Hope Liverpool get stuffed over Christmas!  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Minder on December 24, 2011, 01:50:05 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 24, 2011, 12:20:06 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 24, 2011, 10:43:59 AM
Deary me, did Terry write this article himself ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2078170/The-picture-shows-caring-John-Terry-poses-Hamleys-black-baby.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

The most embarassing part of that article is that part re Suarez. Cringe worthy.

Anyhow. Merry Christmas Minder. Hope Liverpool get stuffed over Christmas!  :D

And the same to you Norf, Big JT will be hoping for a white Christmas ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ONeill on December 24, 2011, 04:19:21 PM
Liked the comment - Terry is holding lego, you can see the squares. It's clearly not a real baby...


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Minder on December 26, 2011, 12:40:31 PM
Torres has scored more Premier League goals (4) for Liverpool in 2011 than for Chelsea (3).

Just putting it put there.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: The Worker on December 26, 2011, 12:46:01 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 26, 2011, 12:40:31 PM
Torres has scored more Premier League goals (4) for Liverpool in 2011 than for Chelsea (3).

Just putting it put there.

many games did he play for each?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: new devil on December 26, 2011, 12:48:02 PM
Really? He scored 4 goals last January?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Minder on December 26, 2011, 12:49:51 PM
Quote from: The Worker on December 26, 2011, 12:46:01 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 26, 2011, 12:40:31 PM
Torres has scored more Premier League goals (4) for Liverpool in 2011 than for Chelsea (3).

Just putting it put there.

many games did he play for each?

He played 6 league games last January for Liverpool.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: new devil on December 26, 2011, 01:02:51 PM
So he scored the same in those 6 games that Andy Carroll has scored in nearly a year for Liverpool?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 26, 2011, 09:34:33 PM
Shite today. No tempo until Malouda (!!) came on. Only Terry, and Malouda showed any urgency with Torres and Oriel trying their best. The rest. Well.

There appears to be a major difference in this team when Ramires doesn't play. He's suddenly the main man.

Saying that their keeper played very well, and Torres shouldv'e had a penalty, but sometimes you get what you deserve.

It's 2 from 4 for those CL spots.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 28, 2011, 10:44:07 AM
Great story. Welcome back Big Sam!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2079142/Sam-Hutchinson-makes-incredible-return-Chelsea.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2079142/Sam-Hutchinson-makes-incredible-return-Chelsea.html)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 31, 2011, 08:17:59 PM
Get the positives out of the road first.

Good to see Sam Hutchinson back. Remarkable comeback.

Secondly. Good to see Deirdre pay respect to Peter Osgood with his goal. Thinks like that are important.

What would be more respectful, would be if Drogba put a f**king shift in after that. Shockingly ordinary display.

I am starting to fear for AVB now. I thought he was the right appointment at the time, and believed that despite the bad results he needed time to get his players in, and get the style of play he wants. However we look lost at present.

In my opnion, not one player can escape criticism today. Not one. I actually thought Torres looked promising when he came on, and at least gave a whiff of a threat.

My AVB worry is where's the plan B? I would love to see him go with Torres and Sturridge up top with Mata behind and a middle three of Oriel, Ramiries and Luiz. A back four of Bertrand/ Cole, JT, Ivanovic and Bosingwa.

The two full backs to bomb at every opportunity with Luiz and Oriel offering cover. When we have the ball Luiz can carry forward. However what we get is the same old 4-3-3 with square pegs in round holes.
He also needs to let one or two of the younger fellas off the leash. Bertrand should be in the team for home games against mid table sides like Fulham, or Villa. I don't think the young lad will be world class but he's promising, and Cole needs rested.

He also needs to stop talking dross to the press conferance. The more he talks the more he leaves himself and the players open to criticism.

Truth be told, I am not sure what direction the team goes from here. We are probably shy a midfielder (Essien's comeback in two weeks might help), a right winger, and a right back.

Happy New f**king Year!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 31, 2011, 10:52:23 PM
Will AVB end the same way as Scolari, out the door by February?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Orangemac on January 01, 2012, 09:47:14 PM
Time is catching up with the Chelsea pensioners. Terry,Cole,Drogba,Lampard,Cech are not the players they were. Bosingwa and Luiz were never defenders to start with.

Shocking how easily Chelsea have been cut open in a lot of games this year. 2nd goal yesterday was criminal, Petrov simply strolled into the box and had all the time in the world to pick his spot.

It may be premature but AVB seems out of his depth.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 02, 2012, 11:22:23 AM
Quote from: Orangemac on January 01, 2012, 09:47:14 PM
Time is catching up with the Chelsea pensioners. Terry,Cole,Drogba,Lampard,Cech are not the players they were. Bosingwa and Luiz were never defenders to start with.

Shocking how easily Chelsea have been cut open in a lot of games this year. 2nd goal yesterday was criminal, Petrov simply strolled into the box and had all the time in the world to pick his spot.

It may be premature but AVB seems out of his depth.

Terry is 31 and still playing well, and Cole was 31 last week. Hardly pensioners. Cole just needs to be rested every now and again as he is asked to play every week. Luiz needs moved to midfield, and the stats show how poor Bosingwa is.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 02, 2012, 05:29:10 PM
The old pensioners Cole and Lamps combine in the 89th minute!!

Funny that!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Puckoon on January 02, 2012, 06:26:26 PM
Fantastic determination from Lampard to get on the end of that cross from outside the D when Torres released Cole. I like auld lamps.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 02, 2012, 08:24:01 PM
Probably one of Torres' better games today. His run led to the corner for the opener, and his sublime pass made the second goal. The quality of ball into him was poor, and he had to scrap for everything he got. Definately better.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2012, 08:34:29 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 02, 2012, 08:24:01 PM
Probably one of Torres' better games today. His run led to the corner for the opener, and his sublime pass made the second goal. The quality of ball into him was poor, and he had to scrap for everything he got. Definately better.

Phil Thompson was slating him on Sky saying he was woeful but I thought he was one of Chelsea's better players and really wonder how those pundits get work...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 02, 2012, 08:41:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2012, 08:34:29 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 02, 2012, 08:24:01 PM
Probably one of Torres' better games today. His run led to the corner for the opener, and his sublime pass made the second goal. The quality of ball into him was poor, and he had to scrap for everything he got. Definately better.

Phil Thompson was slating him on Sky saying he was woeful but I thought he was one of Chelsea's better players and really wonder how those pundits get work...

Funny when Fulham drew with Chelsea on boxing day the 18yo lad, Frei was excellent. Looked at the paper the next day and they gave him 4 out of 10!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on January 02, 2012, 09:13:54 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2012, 08:34:29 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 02, 2012, 08:24:01 PM
Probably one of Torres' better games today. His run led to the corner for the opener, and his sublime pass made the second goal. The quality of ball into him was poor, and he had to scrap for everything he got. Definately better.

Phil Thompson was slating him on Sky saying he was woeful but I thought he was one of Chelsea's better players and really wonder how those pundits get work...

Thompson is not really a pundit. He is set in there for the rest to take the hand out of him. He is a muppet.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Bingo on January 02, 2012, 09:44:15 PM
Any talk on Chelsea forums of Torres having a transfer request rejected tonight?

Maybe PSG or Malaga have turned his head, it happens this time of year with him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Jonah on January 02, 2012, 10:53:57 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 02, 2012, 05:29:10 PM
The old pensioners Cole and Lamps combine in the 89th minute!!

Funny that!
Neither should have been on the pitch at that point both deserved red cards in the game.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 03, 2012, 01:10:33 AM
Quote from: Bingo on January 02, 2012, 09:44:15 PM
Any talk on Chelsea forums of Torres having a transfer request rejected tonight?

Maybe PSG or Malaga have turned his head, it happens this time of year with him.

Not a mention anywhere!

Quote from: Jonah on January 02, 2012, 10:53:57 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 02, 2012, 05:29:10 PM
The old pensioners Cole and Lamps combine in the 89th minute!!

Funny that!
Neither should have been on the pitch at that point both deserved red cards in the game.

I can see how Frank could've been sent off, especially with modern reffing. However I honestly think he tried to pull out of the foul and that elevated his foot to where it ended up.
I think nearly every tackle that is made is with studs showing anyway.
Cole- Nah definately not.

Strange that MOTD failed to show Torres bursting through and being too strong for the Wolves defender and giving Mata a virtual open goal. Only for the ref to give a foul against Torres. Never a foul.
They seemed to ignore that Doyle through the ball at Cole too, which is also technical a red card.

Sometimes MOTD edit the highlights to suit a certain aspect of the game, and leave out other key talking points.

Thought Jonathan Pearce mentioning Lampard's mother in the post match interview was a bit poor. Meant well, but came across badly.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: paco on January 03, 2012, 09:21:32 AM
Why did he mention Lampard's mother? Is she not dead 3 or 4 years now?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Hashtag on January 03, 2012, 09:28:45 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 02, 2012, 08:41:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2012, 08:34:29 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 02, 2012, 08:24:01 PM
Probably one of Torres' better games today. His run led to the corner for the opener, and his sublime pass made the second goal. The quality of ball into him was poor, and he had to scrap for everything he got. Definately better.

Phil Thompson was slating him on Sky saying he was woeful but I thought he was one of Chelsea's better players and really wonder how those pundits get work...

Funny when Fulham drew with Chelsea on boxing day the 18yo lad, Frei was excellent. Looked at the paper the next day and they gave him 4 out of 10!

Watched the full game live. I thought Torres was quite good but he never really threated the goal himself. His link up play was good though. Has to get himself in the box more. Chelsea's style doesn't really suit him.They don't play the ball for him to run onto. Bar Mata I don't think any of the Chelsea players have great passing ability.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Minder on January 03, 2012, 10:09:03 AM
I think Torres is getting treated like Carroll is by some Liverpool fans, they want/see him playing better than he is.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 03, 2012, 12:03:29 PM
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02098/john-terry_2098228b.jpg)

Didn't know Terry liked a fag...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 08, 2012, 03:13:07 PM
Can't believe that once again Ashley Cole is selected over Ryan Bertrand! Cole needs to be rested at some point!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: The Worker on January 08, 2012, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 08, 2012, 03:13:07 PM
Can't believe that once again Ashley Cole is selected over Ryan Bertrand! Cole needs to be rested dropped at some point!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2012, 04:08:34 PM
Welcome back Mr Essien! 75 minutes for the reserves today, which will probably allow young MacEacheran to complete his loan move to Swansea!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2012, 10:18:35 PM
Gary Cahill almost certain to sign tomorrow.

£7 million is a decent prize for a good English centre back in today's market. Hopefully that'll see Luiz moved to right back or midfield.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 13, 2012, 11:53:00 PM
Gary Cahill has agreed terms and will have an early medical at Stamford Bridge tomorrow. Took a while, and I honestly believed this was being dragged out to ensure Cahill faced United tomorrow!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on January 14, 2012, 05:03:20 PM
Cahill (anything to Joe??) to Chelsea, Alex to QPR.  Sad to see Alex go, I always rated him.  Not sure sure about Cahill either but he must be a better centre half than Luiz!  Good solid win today.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 14, 2012, 05:43:33 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 14, 2012, 05:03:20 PM
Cahill (anything to Joe??) to Chelsea, Alex to QPR.  Sad to see Alex go, I always rated him.  Not sure sure about Cahill either but he must be a better centre half than Luiz!  Good solid win today.

Don't really understand the Alex decision. Never let us down, and is a very good player.

Re today. Never seen it, but a big win, especially considering Spurs dropped points. From all accounts Torres was the man today again! Should've had two penalties!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Minder on January 14, 2012, 05:49:34 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 14, 2012, 05:43:33 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 14, 2012, 05:03:20 PM
Cahill (anything to Joe??) to Chelsea, Alex to QPR.  Sad to see Alex go, I always rated him.  Not sure sure about Cahill either but he must be a better centre half than Luiz!  Good solid win today.

Don't really understand the Alex decision. Never let us down, and is a very good player.

Re today. Never seen it, but a big win, especially considering Spurs dropped points. From all accounts Torres was the man today again! Should've had two penalties!

Again?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 14, 2012, 07:46:11 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 14, 2012, 05:49:34 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 14, 2012, 05:43:33 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 14, 2012, 05:03:20 PM
Cahill (anything to Joe??) to Chelsea, Alex to QPR.  Sad to see Alex go, I always rated him.  Not sure sure about Cahill either but he must be a better centre half than Luiz!  Good solid win today.

Don't really understand the Alex decision. Never let us down, and is a very good player.

Re today. Never seen it, but a big win, especially considering Spurs dropped points. From all accounts Torres was the man today again! Should've had two penalties!

Again?

Again. As in the same as in 2 or 3 of the previous games.

Unlucky Fernando...

http://www.chelseavideos.co.uk/Lampard/Lampard%20v%20Sunderland%2012.avi (http://www.chelseavideos.co.uk/Lampard/Lampard%20v%20Sunderland%2012.avi)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ross4life on January 14, 2012, 08:42:56 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 14, 2012, 05:43:33 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 14, 2012, 05:03:20 PM
Cahill (anything to Joe??) to Chelsea, Alex to QPR.  Sad to see Alex go, I always rated him.  Not sure sure about Cahill either but he must be a better centre half than Luiz!  Good solid win today.

Don't really understand the Alex decision. Never let us down, and is a very good player.


Letting Alex go is a strange one alright though he didn't get a look in of late maybe a fall out?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 15, 2012, 12:31:09 AM
Quote from: ross4life on January 14, 2012, 08:42:56 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 14, 2012, 05:43:33 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 14, 2012, 05:03:20 PM
Cahill (anything to Joe??) to Chelsea, Alex to QPR.  Sad to see Alex go, I always rated him.  Not sure sure about Cahill either but he must be a better centre half than Luiz!  Good solid win today.

Don't really understand the Alex decision. Never let us down, and is a very good player.


Letting Alex go is a strange one alright though he didn't get a look in of late maybe a fall out?

Definitely hints of that Rossy. Whispers about his fitness too, but as I said never let Chelsea down.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 17, 2012, 05:42:44 AM
(https://p.twimg.com/AjT9c5BCAAATqhh.jpg:large)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: The Worker on January 21, 2012, 02:36:49 PM
Shevchenko - 22 goals in 77 games (0.28 goals per game)
Torres - 5 goals in 42 games (0.12 goals per game)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on January 21, 2012, 04:41:31 PM
Another poor result. AVB will never see next season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 21, 2012, 08:47:46 PM
Never seen todays game.

Thank f**k.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: From the Bunker on January 21, 2012, 11:57:28 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on January 21, 2012, 04:41:31 PM
Another poor result. AVB will never see next season.

Still in the Champions League ........ and that is the Holy Grail!
Roman Abramovich cares about nothing else. League Cups, FA Cups and Even Premierships. Both Mourinho and Ancelotti achieved the listed titles and were discarded.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 22, 2012, 12:04:28 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 21, 2012, 11:57:28 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on January 21, 2012, 04:41:31 PM
Another poor result. AVB will never see next season.

Still in the Champions League ........ and that is the Holy Grail!
Roman Abramovich cares about nothing else. League Cups, FA Cups and Even Premierships. Both Mourinho and Ancelotti achieved the listed titles and were discarded.
Scolari was sacked on league results as Chelsea were still in the Champions league.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Minder on January 22, 2012, 12:11:39 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 22, 2012, 12:04:28 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 21, 2012, 11:57:28 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on January 21, 2012, 04:41:31 PM
Another poor result. AVB will never see next season.

Still in the Champions League ........ and that is the Holy Grail!
Roman Abramovich cares about nothing else. League Cups, FA Cups and Even Premierships. Both Mourinho and Ancelotti achieved the listed titles and were discarded.
Scolari was sacked on league results as Chelsea were still in the Champions league.

Scolari was sacked by the players.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: under the bar on January 22, 2012, 01:04:46 AM
what roman couldn't buy he's now attempting to breed & still fecking it up
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 27, 2012, 04:59:55 PM
Alex gone. Good player who never let Chelsea down. £4.2 million is decent considering he'd 6 months left on his deal, but probably under half his worth.

Keepers in England will be relieved.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 28, 2012, 12:04:27 PM
So the FA do away with the pre game handshake!! Is this to save John embarrassment ? 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on January 28, 2012, 04:07:23 PM
1-0 with a dodgy penalty.  To use the modern parlance Sturridge "went down a bit easily". :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 28, 2012, 06:11:00 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on January 28, 2012, 12:04:27 PM
So the FA do away with the pre game handshake!! Is this to save John embarrassment ?

You'd need to ask the FA. It's not Chelsea in the media dock for racism amongst their fans tonight. So I'd be more worried about fans closer to home.

Wonder will the FA charge QPR for failing to control their fans today too? Doubtful. In the main, the game was fairly trouble free.

Quote from: AQMP on January 28, 2012, 04:07:23 PM
1-0 with a dodgy penalty.  To use the modern parlance Sturridge "went down a bit easily". :-\

Penalty was soft. Very like a penalty QPR got a few months back when Helguson got 'pushed'. Can't remember who against? I think Sturridge should've had a penalty seconds earlier to that one today though.

As for the game itself. Chelsea were poor, but QPR are shocking. Poor, poor, poor.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AZOffaly on January 28, 2012, 07:09:43 PM
Norf, who is in the dock for racism tonight? That eejit at Anfield? Or are you suggesting the media are claiming the booing of Evra was racist? I haven't seen that anywhere?

Or is there something else going on?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on January 28, 2012, 08:12:47 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 28, 2012, 06:11:00 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on January 28, 2012, 12:04:27 PM
So the FA do away with the pre game handshake!! Is this to save John embarrassment ?

You'd need to ask the FA. It's not Chelsea in the media dock for racism amongst their fans tonight. So I'd be more worried about fans closer to home.

Wonder will the FA charge QPR for failing to control their fans today too? Doubtful. In the main, the game was fairly trouble free.

Quote from: AQMP on January 28, 2012, 04:07:23 PM
1-0 with a dodgy penalty.  To use the modern parlance Sturridge "went down a bit easily". :-\

Penalty was soft. Very like a penalty QPR got a few months back when Helguson got 'pushed'. Can't remember who against? I think Sturridge should've had a penalty seconds earlier to that one today though.

As for the game itself. Chelsea were poor, but QPR are shocking. Poor, poor, poor.

Yeah, I tipped them to go well this season Norf.  Who'd be a pundit eh?  I see the barcodes were dumped tonight.  A "smaller" club could go well this year.  I feel it in my water, Chelsea v Liverpool in the next round!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on January 31, 2012, 09:45:13 AM
Chelsea sign Genk midfielder Kevin De Bruyne.  Will stay at Genk for the rest of the season on loan.  Don't know anything about him!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ziggy90 on January 31, 2012, 10:20:59 AM
Quote from: AQMP on January 28, 2012, 08:12:47 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 28, 2012, 06:11:00 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on January 28, 2012, 12:04:27 PM
So the FA do away with the pre game handshake!! Is this to save John embarrassment ?

You'd need to ask the FA. It's not Chelsea in the media dock for racism amongst their fans tonight. So I'd be more worried about fans closer to home.

Wonder will the FA charge QPR for failing to control their fans today too? Doubtful. In the main, the game was fairly trouble free.

Quote from: AQMP on January 28, 2012, 04:07:23 PM
1-0 with a dodgy penalty.  To use the modern parlance Sturridge "went down a bit easily". :-\

Penalty was soft. Very like a penalty QPR got a few months back when Helguson got 'pushed'. Can't remember who against? I think Sturridge should've had a penalty seconds earlier to that one today though.

As for the game itself. Chelsea were poor, but QPR are shocking. Poor, poor, poor.

Yeah, I tipped them to go well this season Norf.  Who'd be a pundit eh?  I see the barcodes were dumped tonight.  A "smaller" club could go well this year.  I feel it in my water, Chelsea v Liverpool in the next round!


Your worst nightmare, the mighty Blues of Birmingham. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on January 31, 2012, 09:39:45 PM
Beat at Swansea and Cole sent off for 2 yellows. Not a good night for AVB!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Minder on January 31, 2012, 09:40:19 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on January 31, 2012, 09:39:45 PM
Beat at Swansea and Cole sent off for 2 yellows. Not a good night for AVB!

Fail
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on January 31, 2012, 09:41:10 PM
Oops. Late equaliser! Still not a good night though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on February 01, 2012, 12:19:43 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on January 31, 2012, 09:39:45 PM
Beat at Swansea and Cole sent off for 2 yellows. Not a good night for AVB!

It ain't over till Swansea score an own goal!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on February 01, 2012, 12:22:02 PM
John Terry will stand trial after Euro 2012

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16825874

John Terry pleaded not guilty to a "racially aggravated public order" offence and will go to trial on 9th July.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: new devil on February 01, 2012, 02:33:43 PM
John Terry won't face trial for Racial Abuse until after Euro2012, so he's free to lead his country into Poland. Just like his hero did
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 01, 2012, 05:27:23 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on January 31, 2012, 09:41:10 PM
Oops. Late equaliser! Still not a good night though.

Unbeaten in 2012. A point at one of the hardest grounds in the league this year. All done without Rambo, Lampard, JT, Drogba, Kalou, and Mikel. Great night.

I am joking actually. I didn't see the game, but I believe Chelsea were sh**e. Really papering over the cracks at the minute.

I'd love to get two of our youngsters from the reserves that can play wide and beat a man to see if even that'll open the game up. At the minute, we've Studge, and Mata who aren't natural wingers. The width then needs to come from Cole (Who is ruinning on empty) and Bosingwa (Who is just not very good). Therefore everything is central, and predictable. That's most of Torres' problem too!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on February 01, 2012, 05:53:10 PM
Would agree with all that Norf.  Sturridge is going to be a great striker in a couple of years but is not a winger.  Mata looks the sort of players who would be great "in the hole" but is not a winger.  I think Chelsea are unlikely to catch Spurs for 3rd so are looking to top the group going for fourth and that will be tough.  Not a snowball's chance in the CL, I suppose the FA Cup is possible.

They are still taking too long to get the ball forward, one (of the many) reasons Torres is struggling.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 05, 2012, 07:19:35 PM
Funny old game.

Even at 3-0, I thought with the team Chelsea had out it still would be hard to hang on. I appear to be alone on this, but no real complains re the penalties as such. The first one ( I think it was the first) was outside the box, and should've been a free to Chelsea at the other end when Torres was fouled. That allowed United to break.

Bosingwa jersey pull should've been a pen, Evra's as well, but Wellbeck's nope.

The real issue with the ref was that he appeared to allow a lot of United fouls to go unpunished, and was quick to produce the yellows for Chelsea. Torres' booking was never a booking. By the letter of the law it was a free to Chelsea!

As for Chelsea's performance. It was ok. I thought Cahill and Luiz did well, bar Luiz losing Hernandez for the equaliser. Malouda's a waste. He was actually the source of the problem for the 3rd goal, while Meireles is very yellow. Did he pull out of challanges for Liverpool as often as he does at Chelsea?

Torres. Fernando, Fernando, Fernando. Just f**king shoot!!!

Did anyone see the SKY interviews after the game. Fergie had 5 minutes to mouth about the lack of decisions that United get. AVB's interview was looking good, were he turned Ferguson's point on its head, but then Sky cut him off after 90 seconds in the middle of his answer to the second question. If they did with politicians they's be fined.

Thank f**k I cancelled SKY on Friday. No more money off me.

Need to get a few men back and start turning this unbeaten run into wins.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Minder on February 05, 2012, 07:40:50 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 05, 2012, 07:19:35 PM
Funny old game.

Even at 3-0, I thought with the team Chelsea had out it still would be hard to hang on. I appear to be alone on this, but no real complains re the penalties as such. The first one ( I think it was the first) was outside the box, and should've been a free to Chelsea at the other end when Torres was fouled. That allowed United to break.

Bosingwa jersey pull should've been a pen, Evra's as well, but Wellbeck's nope.

The real issue with the ref was that he appeared to allow a lot of United fouls to go unpunished, and was quick to produce the yellows for Chelsea. Torres' booking was never a booking. By the letter of the law it was a free to Chelsea!

As for Chelsea's performance. It was ok. I thought Cahill and Luiz did well, bar Luiz losing Hernandez for the equaliser. Malouda's a waste. He was actually the source of the problem for the 3rd goal, while Meireles is very yellow. Did he pull out of challanges for Liverpool as often as he does at Chelsea?

Torres. Fernando, Fernando, Fernando. Just f**king shoot!!!

Did anyone see the SKY interviews after the game. Fergie had 5 minutes to mouth about the lack of decisions that United get. AVB's interview was looking good, were he turned Ferguson's point on its head, but then Sky cut him off after 90 seconds in the middle of his answer to the second question. If they did with politicians they's be fined.

Thank f**k I cancelled SKY on Friday. No more money off me.

Need to get a few men back and start turning this unbeaten run into wins.

Yes he did, tries to avoid contact if at all possible, and its not as if its rugby he is playing ffs.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 17, 2012, 10:44:19 PM
Dear Mr Boas

Please stamp your authority on your starting X1 tomorrow. In reality that means that Jose Bosingwa doesn't start, Ryan Bertrand gets a chance, and Meireles is on the bench.

This please>>

Cech

Cole
Cahill
Luiz
Ivanovic

Bertrand

Romeau
Ramires if fit

Torres (Only because there are no other right wingers)

Mata
Sturridge.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 18, 2012, 09:05:01 AM
Quality Article from the FT on Torres...

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/e7c80640-5788-11e1-869b-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1minZ3ttL (http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/e7c80640-5788-11e1-869b-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1minZ3ttL)

Chelsea's £50m striker has fallen prey to the malaise that every sportsman dreads: a catastrophic and inexplicable loss of form. But why does this happen to top athletes and how can they recover?

You've been bought by a big club for a big fee. Your job is to score goals. One game passes, two, three, four and you haven't scored. Five, six: still nothing. The goalposts seem to get narrower every game. Your coach comes up to you and says he has total faith in you, which is worse, because now you know that he knows you're playing crap. You play at an away stadium and the rival fans sing, 'What a waste of money!' and the awful thing is that you suspect they are right.

"Then your own fans begin to mutter and you know they are right too. They become your conscience. You don't want to leave the house to go shopping, much less to a pub, for fear of what people might say to you or of the looks you might get – scornful or, worse, pitying. You hide off the pitch and you start hiding on it. You stop looking for the ball, you drift off to the wings, shunning the goalscoring positions for fear that if a chance comes your way, you'll fluff it. Your mum calls, 'How are you, darling, all right?' And you know she knows too ... "

This is not Fernando Torres talking; not the Spanish goal-scorer bought by Chelsea for a record English transfer fee of £50 million just over a year ago, since when he has succumbed to a malaise every professional competitor dreads – a calamitous and inexplicable loss of form. Torres scored just five goals in his first 12 months, at a team that has won nothing since his arrival. He has become the epitome of failure in sport.

No, Torres does not want to talk right now, his agent told me. Not in public. The person quoted here is Michael Robinson, a retired footballer who knows Torres and who, by reliving sensations from his own past, offers a likely glimpse of the torments that have assailed the 27-year-old Spaniard for the greater part of these past 12 months. Robinson was recalling what he himself went through after he was bought in 1983 by Torres' previous club, Liverpool, for what was then the impressive sum of £250,000. His job was also to score goals but Robinson, who ended his footballing career in Spain, went eight games without finding the back of the net. Then he did score, and then he scored again, and again, and in his first season Liverpool won the game's most coveted "double", the English championship and the European Cup.

No such luck for Torres. Nothing in his career foreshadowed such a slump. Signed by Atlético Madrid, one of Spain's six biggest clubs, when he was 11, he made good on his early promise by making his debut in the first team at the age of 17. Mature far beyond his years, he was named team captain two years later, when he also made his debut for the Spanish national team. That was in 2003. Four years later, Liverpool signed him. Adapting admirably to the rough and tumble of Premier League football, he quickly came to be regarded by the English cognoscenti as the complete centre forward: tall, lithe, elegant, whippet fast, positionally canny, strong in the air and as lethal a goal-scorer with his left foot as with his right. In June 2008 he scored the winning goal for Spain against Germany in the final of the European championships. In January 2011, fatefully, he left Liverpool for Chelsea.
Fernando Torres

Since then, the dreaded chant "What a waste of money!" has reverberated around every away stadium where he has shown his face. The newspapers shriek "Torres: the worst transfer ever!" and remind him almost daily of how many minutes – over a thousand by mid-February – he has gone without scoring. The Chelsea fans have stuck stubbornly by him, which Torres has said is his biggest incentive to start scoring again. But that is a burden too. As for his coach, André Villas-Boas, a recent remark might have sounded to Torres' ears more like a kiss of death than a vote of confidence. "We still believe in the player," he said. "But he is taking his time."
Michael Robinson

Michael Robinson: 'Whatever I went through, it has to be a hundred times worse for Torres, poor chap'

Michael Robinson, now a popular sports personality on Spanish TV, winced when I asked him to try and put himself in Torres' boots. "Whatever I went through," he replied, "it has to be a hundred times worse, poor chap."

Things began to fall apart for Torres after he underwent a knee operation in January 2010, while still at Liverpool. Not fully match fit, he forced himself to play in the World Cup in South Africa in June that year. Spain were the favourites to win the competition and he was by far the most globally celebrated player in the team. Many anticipated that he would be the star of the tournament. He wasn't. He failed to score and he played miserably. On as a substitute towards the end of the final, which Spain won, he had to leave the pitch within minutes with a groin injury. Torres hobbled around the pitch during the post-match celebration but he wore what seemed to be a wan smile on his face. He knew, as well as everybody in the world watching, that Spain had been crowned champions not because of him, but despite him.

The resumption of the English season in August saw no improvement but his reputation remained sufficiently solid for Chelsea not only to weigh in for him five months later with that record-breaking fee, but to pay him a salary of £10 million a year, very close to the amount earned by the game's two outstanding superstars, Lionel Messi of Barcelona and Cristiano Ronaldo of Real Madrid. What this amounts to is that in the 12 months following his move to Chelsea he scored at a rate of £2 million per goal. The five goals he scored in this period stand in reproachful contrast to the 20 he had averaged per season at Liverpool.
Fernando Torres signs for Chelsea in 2011

Wrong move? Torres signs for Chelsea in 2011 for a record £50m, since when he has rarely scored

One moment this season, seared into the memory of every Chelsea supporter and of all football fans with compassion in their hearts, captured his plight in excruciating technicolour. It was a match last September away to Manchester United. Chelsea were losing 3-1 but were playing well: the feeling was that they could go on and win the game. Torres found himself with the ball at his feet and only the goalkeeper to beat, which he did, rounding him with panache. Now all he had to do was tuck the ball into an empty net. His miscue was as horrible as it was inexplicable. At the very moment when he had the easiest of chances to put his team back into the game, he did what in golf they call a "shank": the ball shot off the outside of his left foot, missing the post by a full three feet. Torres appeared instantly to grasp the enormity of his failure and the global resonance those video images would have. In an unusual display of despair – he is the most impassive of footballers normally – he dropped to his knees and sank his head into the turf. The Manchester United fans behind him howled with laughter.

The malady to which Torres has so spectacularly succumbed is familiar to all people who play sports but is far more keenly felt by those who do so for a living. Those likely to be worst hit are the ones who play individual games, such as tennis or golf, or occupy positions in a team where they find themselves under special scrutiny, such as the taker of the penalty kicks in rugby, the star batsman in a cricket team, the striker or goalkeeper in football. Watching a once mighty sports professional lose form is always a grimly fascinating spectacle, all the more so because it is something with which everybody, to some degree, is able to identify. We all feel Torres' pain because we all fear the notion of things going catastrophically haywire in our working lives.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 18, 2012, 09:05:29 AM
Two American sports psychologists I spoke to agreed that there was something universally recognisable in the Torres syndrome. But neither thought that there was any walk of life where the pressure was felt with greater intensity than in top-level sport. John Murray, who defines himself as a specialist in helping sports personalities remove anxiety and build confidence, suggested that a comparison might be made with air traffic controllers and Wall Street day traders. "But even they are not affected to the degree that, say, a top golfer is when he has to make that big putt, knowing the world is watching," Murray said. William Wiener, an expert in cognitive behavioural therapy, said that all people struggled at times with "performance anxiety" but that the problem was magnified immeasurably in the case of a "very highly paid athlete who is very much under the miscroscope and who, let's not forget, is invariably a very young man."

. . .
Joel Stransky

Joel Stransky, World Cup winner with South Africa in 1995, whose form fell off a cliff the following year

Joel Stransky was the same age as Fernando Torres is now when, one afternoon in 1995, he faced a degree of pressure unimaginable to anyone but the most hardened of sportsmen. That year he was the fly half and penalty kicker in the South African rugby team that won the World Cup against New Zealand, a game that was much more than a game, on which the dreams of national unity of Nelson Mandela and an entire nation were pinned. South Africa won and Stransky kicked all his team's points. Since then he has gone on to become a successful corporate businessman, operating today as CEO of Hertz, South Africa. As someone who suffered a crushing loss of form on the rugby field a year after winning the World Cup, he is in as good a position as any to compare the pressures of sports with that of the business world. For Stransky, it is no contest.

"In business you need confidence and decision-making ability, sure," he said. "You can be afflicted by a fear of failure. But you're more fortunate than you are in sport because you have time to make up your mind and because if you've lost some of your self-belief, you can bounce ideas off colleagues. In sport you're on your own and there are two elements which make it all so much harder, the mental and the physical. You have to make a decision as a fly half whether you should kick or pass, as a striker in football whether to shoot or pass, in tennis whether to drive the ball cross-court or diagonally, and that – in a split second – is hard enough. But then the element of physical co-ordination comes into play: you have to execute. And that makes it much more difficult, because you might make what is in retrospect the wrong decision yet get the physical side of it right, or vice versa."

Why did he lose form in 1996, having passed the supreme test a year earlier? Stransky was perplexed at the time but believes that hindsight (a commodity not available to Torres) has allowed him at least a partial explanation. Some of it had to do with unexpected difficulties that accompanied the arrival of his first baby. There were also some other problems off the field on which he did not expand plus, perhaps most important, a sense of which he was unaware back then of having let the glories of 1995 go to his head, leading to "a lack of that burning desire you need to play at your best and win". "What it all shows," he said, "is how fragile the mind can be, how subconscious elements can combine to trigger problems where, on past form and experience, they rationally should not exist."

The mysteries of form may reside in the subconscious but it also appears to be true that the problem is worsened by thinking too much and, as a likely consequence, trying too hard. On this point Stransky, the two American sports psychologists and also a couple of other people I spoke to, in the football and tennis worlds, were all in agreement.
Santiago Solari

Santiago Solari, former Argentine international: 'You have a bad game ... get anxious ... you feel as if you're walking down a step'

Santiago Solari, a recently retired Argentine international footballer who played for Atlético Madrid and Real Madrid, said that all players went through a period when their form declined, though he was quick to point out that in his case it had never occurred on a scale comparable to Fernando Torres. "There are times," Solari said, "when you feel as if you are an unstoppable phenomenon of nature. There's a happy convergence of the mental and the physical in your game and your confidence just grows and grows. It all seems so natural. But then you have a bad game, and then another one and you start to get anxious, and you feel each time you go out and play as if you're walking down a step, with one brick, and then another one, weighing you down. Before you know it you've walked down so many steps and the bricks have piled up to such a point that you feel as if you were lying buried under a big building."

Francis Roig is a coach of Spain's all-conquering Davis Cup team and also second coach to the no less triumphant Rafa Nadal. Loss of form is an affliction especially common in tennis, Roig said. "It's tremendous the importance confidence has on your game. It's tremendous also how a rival can smell that fear in you, how he loses the respect he might once have had for you, beating you when before nine times out of 10 you'd have beaten him. Look at Jim Courier, who was number one in the world for two years – "Big Jim", they called him – and then one day it all went; he fell to number 60 and never got back. A sort of psychosis possessed him, a desperate need to return to being the player he had been, and he never overcame it."
Jim Courier

Jim Courier ranked number one in the world in 1992 and 1993 – 'and then one day it all went'

What should he have done? "One way to recover your form, though there is no magic cure I am aware of, is not to dwell on the negative aspects of your game, to forget that and focus on the things you've always done well in your career going back to childhood." Roig, a keen football fan, sees Fernando Torres as an extreme case who has succumbed to "a dynamic in which everything you did before effortlessly becomes impossible, and then you try harder, working double as much, but things only get worse."

"My guess," said William Wiener of Torres, picking up on Solari's and Roig's points, "is that he is overthinking each move, that something in his mental processes is not as relaxed as it once was." John Murray, who before becoming a sports psychologist was a professional tennis player, also attaches blame to "overthinking" and counsels that for Torres to overcome what he describes as "catastrophic performance anxiety" he must try to play as he did when he was a child, "happily, for fun". "My hypothesis," said Murray, who has addressed loss of form problems with leading American sporstmen, "is that his confidence is shattered, that his anxiety is such that the harder he tries, the worse it gets. And he may also be in denial, which is an especially horrible thing when the whole world knows what's going on. He needs help."

. . .

How willing is Torres to admit what would seem to be the screamingly obvious, that he is undergoing a crisis of confidence? Not very, judging from what both his agent and a close friend of his told me. At best, there appears to be some ambiguity on the matter. His friend, who preferred not to be identified in print, said he had seen him recently in Madrid with his family and he had looked "neither torn nor pained". "He is tranquilo. He accepts what's happening as something normal in football and believes it has to do with Chelsea's style of play," the friend said. Besides, the friend added, he had been playing really well since the start of the new year and hit the bar with a fantastic overhead kick that, had it gone in, "would have been goal of the season". Nevertheless, the friend did seem to suggest the possibility of something going on in Torres' mind too when he proposed that perhaps Liverpool had "laid the evil eye on him". "It's tough, sure. He spent eight games as a substitute at the end of last year. That had never happened to him, not even as a child."

It is hard to imagine that that experience would not have sapped his confidence but Torres' agent, Antonio Sanz, insisted on the same line, for the most part, as the unnamed friend. "The reading I make of all this, and that we understand is the right one, is that it is purely a footballing question," Sanz said. "Two coaches at Chelsea in the year Fernando has been there have not helped either. It has obliged him in each case to adapt to different styles of play from the one under which he had thrived at Liverpool." This obviates the fact that he has not adapted to the style of play of the Spanish national team either: he is in grave danger of being dropped for the European Championships finals in the summer. Yet Sanz appeared to be adamant. "What we're not seeing are goals, sure, but physically he is the same as he ever was and mentally there is no problem."
Fernando Torres

Torres in a publicity shot for Nike, January 2009. He had recently been nominated for Fifa World Player of the Year

Sanz insists Torres is a very grounded young man, as often appears to be the case with Spanish football players compared to their English counterparts. Much of it probably has to do with the tightness of families in Spain, particularly strong in the case of Torres who is happily married, Sanz said, with two small children. "Fernando is an intelligent, cerebral man who is neither corrupted by success nor destroyed by failure. His family is his refuge and he is not the kind of person who likes to show himself off at prize-giving ceremonies or parties. What he most likes is to visit his parents in Madrid or be quietly at home in Cobham with his wife and kids."

Being cerebral and shunning the celebrity glare may not help. Being cerebral, he is more likely to succumb to the overthinking curse; and as Wiener suggested, his reclusiveness may be more counter-productive than Torres might imagine. "Often athletes who thrive under the spotlight have the ability to turn off the fans' abusive chants or the criticism in the media, removing what might have been a big weight from their shoulders," Wiener said.

Cristiano Ronaldo, a rampant goal-scorer season after season, offers a case in point. "He loves the celebrity life and needs public attention, from whatever quarter. He seems to be inspired and motivated by criticism, turning it to his advantage where others would be crushed by it."

As for Lionel Messi, not just the world's best player but a candidate for best of all time, he is no party-going fashion model, like Ronaldo, but has the advantage of not being a deep thinker and, above all, of seemingly playing the game as if he were still in the schoolyard.

For Torres, whose face (save for that calamity against Manchester United) betrays nothing on the field, football has not seemed much fun for a long time. Santiago Solari, though as well disposed to him as a fellow professional can be, doubts he will recover his best form. "When a player has been at the peak of form in his career and then goes downhill ... well, I've never seen a player return to his best in those circumstances," he said. Wiener, on the other hand, has faith that Torres will stage a comeback. "My prediction is that he's not done yet," he said. "That level of athletic talent is hard to suppress." The other psychologist I talked to, John Murray, also believes he can recover his form, but only if he opens up to someone like him.

How about Torres turning to psychological help? I asked his agent Antonio Sanz. Instead of the expected rebuff, Sanz said Torres might be open to the idea and would examine it if it were proposed by his club. That might be the last card left for Torres to play, unless he were suddenly to recover his form – by the very same mysterious processes through which he lost it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ziggy90 on February 18, 2012, 11:06:52 AM
Good posts Dinny, I always liked Torres & I hope he finds his best form again (but not today).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 18, 2012, 11:07:15 AM
Cheers Dinny. I'll get a wee read through that later when I get 10. Thanks.



Re my starting line up. I actually should say that Lukaku deserves a starting place agead of Torres.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Carmen Stateside on February 18, 2012, 01:22:38 PM
Poor stuff from Chelsea.  No width what so ever, Torres ending up out wide receiving the ball to often.  What formation is that they play, 4-3-3?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Carmen Stateside on February 18, 2012, 01:34:27 PM
Drogba for Torres at HT.  ooohhhh!
As been said before its not his fault, not one ball was played towards him first half!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ziggy90 on February 18, 2012, 01:42:08 PM
"Can you hear the BRUMS Fernando". I know, (it's too early).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on February 18, 2012, 01:50:42 PM
He has now went 20 games with out a goal!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ziggy90 on February 18, 2012, 02:44:49 PM
Great result for Brum where a homecoming awaits for boyhood fan Daniel. His uncle Simon Sturridge graced St Andrews & Wembley (scored at both) back in the good old days (old  Third Division)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 18, 2012, 07:43:39 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on February 18, 2012, 02:44:49 PM
Great result for Brum where a homecoming awaits for boyhood fan Daniel. His uncle Simon Sturridge graced St Andrews & Wembley (scored at both) back in the good old days (old  Third Division)

Well deserved draw for the Blue noses. You could have snatched the winner late on when the young left winger broke through.

For Chelsea, it was slightly better, but only slightly. I can't ever generate the enthusiasm to add any more than that. The strange thing is with Arsenal, and Norwich going out Chelsea's price for the Cup will probably be cut!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ziggy90 on February 19, 2012, 02:06:06 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 18, 2012, 07:43:39 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on February 18, 2012, 02:44:49 PM
Great result for Brum where a homecoming awaits for boyhood fan Daniel. His uncle Simon Sturridge graced St Andrews & Wembley (scored at both) back in the good old days (old  Third Division)

Well deserved draw for the Blue noses. You could have snatched the winner late on when the young left winger broke through.

For Chelsea, it was slightly better, but only slightly. I can't ever generate the enthusiasm to add any more than that. The strange thing is with Arsenal, and Norwich going out Chelsea's price for the Cup will probably be cut!

If Chelsea want to advance further in the cup they would need to show a bit more grit & passion. Blues wouldn't be the best football team in the world but St Andrews with a full house is a pretty intimidating place to come to try & get a result. I quite like AVB, he always shows opponents respect but I fear for him if he doesn't get through in the CL & or the FA Cup. The fans are turning against him big time & the Russian Mafia didn't look to pleased yesterday either. Anyway bring it on, there's always a bit of a bite when these clubs meet. :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ross4life on February 19, 2012, 03:13:20 PM
(http://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/15/51/60/17/42060510.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ziggy90 on February 19, 2012, 04:16:33 PM
Some-babies eh? :D Btw just seen the draw for the Q/Fs, what an incentive for both clubs to win this tie.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ross4life on February 19, 2012, 05:25:15 PM
Only have to beat Birmingham/Leicester to reach the semi final the Chelsea of a few years ago would powered past those sides have my doubts about the current side but i'm going to stick with my original prediction. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2012, 05:54:02 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 19, 2012, 05:25:15 PM
Only have to beat Birmingham/Leicester to reach the semi final the Chelsea of a few years ago would powered past those sides have my doubts about the current side but i'm going to stick with my original prediction.

That should be an incentive, but Chelsea need to start showing character. Might need to revert to Lampard, Terry and Drogba again for that!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on February 20, 2012, 09:37:29 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 18, 2012, 01:50:42 PM
He has now went 20 games with out a goal!

But I bet he knows what the past participle of "go" is!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 21, 2012, 05:24:18 PM
Terry injured for 2 months so obviously misses tonight, and the rumours are that Cole is out too. However the big rumour is that Lamps is dropped from the 18. Hope his Chelsea career doesn't end in disharmony.

I actually think tonight's game suits Lampard to a tee. Big game player. Point to prove, and could snatch a critical away goal.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 21, 2012, 07:06:48 PM
Cech, Ivanović, Luiz, Cahill, Bosingwa, Ramires, Meireles, Malouda, Mata, Drogba, Sturridge

No Cole,Terry,Lampard or Torres.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Forever Green on February 21, 2012, 08:19:09 PM
Napoli not got going at all yet although Chelsea are looking pretty solid. Onto more important matters, that wee team doctor of Chelsea`s would get it something shocking. Just something about her  :-*
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Forever Green on February 21, 2012, 08:24:16 PM
Good finish there by Lavezzi. Could be a high scoring game this one
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 21, 2012, 08:29:09 PM
6th in Serie A Napoli 1 Chelsea 5th in the premier league league 1

Champions league at it's best?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Forever Green on February 21, 2012, 08:32:58 PM
This is more like it from Napoli. 2-1
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on February 21, 2012, 09:28:06 PM
P45 for AVB!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 21, 2012, 09:38:43 PM
Villas Boas unlikely to be around for the return leg and English football has gone tits up in the champions league this season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Archie Mitchell on February 21, 2012, 10:01:32 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 21, 2012, 09:38:43 PM
Villas Boas unlikely to be around for the return leg and English football has gone tits up in the champions league this season.

I thought you said when the draw was made Chelsea would have no bother beating Napoli. Shows how much you know.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 21, 2012, 10:18:50 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on February 21, 2012, 10:01:32 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 21, 2012, 09:38:43 PM
Villas Boas unlikely to be around for the return leg and English football has gone tits up in the champions league this season.

I thought you said when the draw was made Chelsea would have no bother beating Napoli. Shows how much you know.

We all know the Premier league is overrated when a sixth placed Serie A side can knock out two premier league sides.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Evil Genius on February 21, 2012, 10:26:36 PM
Apparently Chelsea fans were dubbing him "Andre Villa's Toast" several weeks back.

I fancy it'll be somewhat harsher after tonight...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Dougal Maguire on February 22, 2012, 12:06:54 AM
Delighted for Napoli. Was at a match in their stadium  v Juventus . They won 5 1. Maradonna + Careca playing for Napoli, Baggio, - Schilacci + Casiraghi playing for Juve. Memorable night brilliant fans
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Evil Genius on February 22, 2012, 01:23:02 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on February 22, 2012, 12:06:54 AM
Delighted for Napoli. Was at a match in their stadium in 1990 v Juventus in the super cup final. It was during my honeymoon. They won 5 1. Maradonna + Careca playing for Napoli, Baggio, - Schilacci + Casiraghi playing for Juve. Memorable night brilliant fans
What do you think about paying GAA players? Is violence on the field the biggest cancer in the game? Will Fermanagh ever be worth a fcuk at Football or Hurling?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Forever Green on February 22, 2012, 01:37:14 AM
What an arsehole
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ludermor on February 22, 2012, 09:27:17 AM
Quote from: Forever Green on February 22, 2012, 01:37:14 AM
What an arsehole
Why dont you comment on the threads where Dougal has been doing the same to EG?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 22, 2012, 11:13:21 AM
Got a text message there now 'this is the worst Chelsea team in their 8 year history' Sorry Norf!!

I said it at the start of the season, paying £12m for a manager was always going to heap un-necessary pressure on AVB.

Cole getting some stick for his enthusiasm on the sidelines last night!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ballinaman on February 22, 2012, 11:20:20 AM
had 10 bob on Napoli 3-1 Chelsea last night....yup.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 22, 2012, 11:24:41 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 22, 2012, 11:20:20 AM
had 10 bob on Napoli 3-1 Chelsea last night....yup.
The Racing Post called Napoli 'the bet of the season' last night, backed them at 13/10 myself.  Saying that it was like a game of table football at times!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 22, 2012, 11:50:19 AM
AVB picked the wrong team last night. It was ripe for solidity in midfield with experienced players. The team that finished was the team that should've started. However give AVB credit, he wasn't afraid of making a difficult decision.

The thing is, Napoli weren't that great either, and a decent Chelsea side would've won 3 or 4!

Did no one else think the pitch was shockingly poor.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 22, 2012, 11:52:55 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 22, 2012, 11:50:19 AM
However give AVB credit, he wasn't afraid of making a difficult decision.
poor.
Is he trying to weed out the Terry/Lampard/Drogba axis of power on and off the pitch? 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ballinaman on February 22, 2012, 12:16:48 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on February 22, 2012, 11:24:41 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 22, 2012, 11:20:20 AM
had 10 bob on Napoli 3-1 Chelsea last night....yup.
The Racing Post called Napoli 'the bet of the season' last night, backed them at 13/10 myself.  Saying that it was like a game of table football at times!
aye, heart was in my mouth when Cole cleared it off the line!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Denn Forever on February 22, 2012, 12:20:17 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on February 22, 2012, 11:52:55 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 22, 2012, 11:50:19 AM
However give AVB credit, he wasn't afraid of making a difficult decision.
poor.
Is he trying to weed out the Terry/Lampard/Drogba axis of power on and off the pitch?

There doesn't seem to be anything there to replace it with though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 22, 2012, 12:23:50 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 22, 2012, 12:20:17 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on February 22, 2012, 11:52:55 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 22, 2012, 11:50:19 AM
However give AVB credit, he wasn't afraid of making a difficult decision.
poor.
Is he trying to weed out the Terry/Lampard/Drogba axis of power on and off the pitch?

There doesn't seem to be anything there to replace it with though.
Which ultimately will be his downfall I think.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ballinaman on February 22, 2012, 01:45:24 PM
Do ye think Mata might be in with a shout for player of the year? Along with Silva and Demba Ba maybe?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: the Deel Rover on February 22, 2012, 01:48:26 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 22, 2012, 01:45:24 PM
Do ye think Mata might be in with a shout for player of the year? Along with Silva and Demba Ba maybe?

Not for me anyway Ballinaman i'd have Modric before him anyway not to mention  Van Persie .
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ballinaman on February 22, 2012, 02:11:42 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on February 22, 2012, 01:48:26 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 22, 2012, 01:45:24 PM
Do ye think Mata might be in with a shout for player of the year? Along with Silva and Demba Ba maybe?

Not for me anyway Ballinaman i'd have Modric before him anyway not to mention  Van Persie .
Van Persie will be ahead of Ba anyways, you dead right, don't know how i forgot that. Maybe Norf will shed some more light on Mata, any bits of him i've seen this year I thought he was Chelsea's most dangerous player.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 22, 2012, 09:04:09 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 22, 2012, 02:11:42 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on February 22, 2012, 01:48:26 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 22, 2012, 01:45:24 PM
Do ye think Mata might be in with a shout for player of the year? Along with Silva and Demba Ba maybe?

Not for me anyway Ballinaman i'd have Modric before him anyway not to mention  Van Persie .
Van Persie will be ahead of Ba anyways, you dead right, don't know how i forgot that. Maybe Norf will shed some more light on Mata, any bits of him i've seen this year I thought he was Chelsea's most dangerous player.

He's been very good, but not great. Good for a first season. For example I don't think he scored away from home in all games until last night.

POTY for me is between Ba, RVP, Toure and Kompany.

Anyhow, Chelsea's youth side were aiming to reach the last 4 of the FAYC for the 4th time in 5 years. Away to Forest and 3 down at HT, and ended up winning 4-3!!

It was just nice to see some exciting football and passion in a Blue jersey. It's been a while!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Main Street on February 23, 2012, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 22, 2012, 11:50:19 AM
AVB picked the wrong team last night. It was ripe for solidity in midfield with experienced players. The team that finished was the team that should've started. However give AVB credit, he wasn't afraid of making a difficult decision.

The thing is, Napoli weren't that great either, and a decent Chelsea side would've won 3 or 4!

Did no one else think the pitch was shockingly poor.

Napoli would have beaten any team put out by Chelsea and any EPL team for that matter.
Chelsea would have to spend another 200m+ to rebuild their team, a team that could beat Napoli in Italy.

QuoteDid no one else think the pitch was shockingly poor.

What else could explain the inexplicable, Cannavaro slicing a clearance over his own head.




Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on February 26, 2012, 08:48:16 PM
Chelsea win 3-0 and play well :o  That's worth a post!  And the Saffs beat Wexford in the hurling!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 26, 2012, 09:02:19 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 26, 2012, 08:48:16 PM
Chelsea win 3-0 and play well :o  That's worth a post!  And the Saffs beat Wexford in the hurling!

Did you notice that MOTD still managed to slag off Torres even though he only played 14 minutes, and completely ignored Luiz' MOTM showing. A wee agenda there by MOTD me thinks.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ross4life on February 26, 2012, 10:43:14 PM
Quote
Chelsea's youth side were aiming to reach the last 4 of the FAYC for the 4th time in 5 years. Away to Forest and 3 down at HT, and ended up winning 4-3!!

It also helps when you sign one of Forest's best youth players http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16796856 anyway if United beat Charlton it will set up another Chelsea v Man Utd semi final.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Gazzler on March 04, 2012, 01:45:02 PM
AVB sacked.
Abramovich should just install himself as manager,sure he picks the team anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 04, 2012, 02:36:55 PM
Someone on Twitter says the next manager will be offered a 12 hour rolling contract   ;D

If Abramovich is serious about making a go of Chelsea he needs to let the next manager break up the current squad and start again. If he doesnt they'll continue their downward spiral, he'll ditch them and they'll go the way of Rangers. Then who will Loyalists support?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on March 04, 2012, 02:46:08 PM
Predictable that AVB would not make it. A 34 year old could not have enough experience to manage a top club.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ballinaman on March 04, 2012, 06:33:00 PM
To save time and money, Chelsea have sacked their next manager too.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: From the Bunker on March 04, 2012, 06:43:32 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on March 04, 2012, 02:46:08 PM
Predictable that AVB would not make it. A 34 year old could not have enough experience to manage a top club.

Kenny Dalgish was 34 when he took over Liverpool.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on March 04, 2012, 06:58:55 PM
And what?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: From the Bunker on March 04, 2012, 07:12:14 PM
If You are good enough, you're old enough!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on March 04, 2012, 08:18:44 PM
Any chance AVB could take half the players with him. >:(

TBH I feared for AVB the moment Chelsea were 3-0 up at home to Utd with 30 mins left and still couldn't win.

Di Matteo was a great player for Chelsea but his record with WBA was worse than AVB!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 04, 2012, 08:43:08 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 21, 2012, 09:38:43 PM
Villas Boas unlikely to be around for the return leg and English football has gone tits up in the champions league this season.
Shows how much i know.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ziggysego on March 05, 2012, 12:51:10 AM
Torres is averaging 1.6 goals per manager at Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: nrico2006 on March 05, 2012, 10:43:46 AM
So who is going to be the next manager?  Would he see Moyes as an option or would his profile not be glamourous enough?  Mourinho would turn Chelsea around without a doubt.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on March 05, 2012, 11:10:22 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 05, 2012, 10:43:46 AM
So who is going to be the next manager?  Would he see Moyes as an option or would his profile not be glamourous enough?  Mourinho would turn Chelsea around without a doubt.

Paper talk about Mourinho or Guardiola.  I think it's likely Abramovich had sounded out a successor before Saturday but for the life of me I can't see Pep Guardiola working for someone with the "short termism" of Abramovich.  The Special One is more likely but he'd be taking a big risk going back.  I'd like to see Hiddink get the job but that's unlikely.

But there's a bullet to be bitten with some of the players and Abramovich has to realise that.  In my opinion there's at least a two season re-building process to be gone through at Chelsea before they are challenging City and Utd for titles again.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ziggy90 on March 05, 2012, 12:53:58 PM
I was at the WBA match on saturday and to be honest Chelsea seemed to be second best for most of the game. I was hoping they would wait until after the Birmingham to sack AVB (selfish reasons). A lot of those Chelsea players would need to take a serious look at themselves, for whatever reasons they don't seem to be performing at a level you would expect for top PL players. Essien is not the player he was, Sturridge is starting to believe the hype & Cole seems to have lost his pace. They are not on their own, Drogba, Lampard, Ramires & Ivanovic all seemed to be struggling. In saying that I hope they don't suddenly find their form & give us a tanking. On another note Steven Reid was having a cracking game until he got injured (hope it's not serious as a fit Reid would be a great addition to the ROI squad).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ross4life on March 05, 2012, 01:34:19 PM
Quote from: AQMP on March 05, 2012, 11:10:22 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 05, 2012, 10:43:46 AM
So who is going to be the next manager?  Would he see Moyes as an option or would his profile not be glamourous enough?  Mourinho would turn Chelsea around without a doubt.

Paper talk about Mourinho or Guardiola.  I think it's likely Abramovich had sounded out a successor before Saturday but for the life of me I can't see Pep Guardiola working for someone with the "short termism" of Abramovich.  The Special One is more likely but he'd be taking a big risk going back.  I'd like to see Hiddink get the job but that's unlikely.

But there's a bullet to be bitten with some of the players and Abramovich has to realise that.  In my opinion there's at least a two season re-building process to be gone through at Chelsea before they are challenging City and Utd for titles again.

Clearly all is not well behind the scenes only two years ago Chelsea were champions since then they haven't recovered from that bad form before xmas last season. Too many voices in the dressing room by the sounds of it pulling in different directions it seems. They need a manager than can control those personalities Jose could Rafa certainly won't.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 14, 2012, 02:34:55 PM
It's been a wee while since I last posted on here. Need to do better.

Firstly. The AVB sacking was wrong. Any manager, especially a manager overseeing a transition needs more than 7-8 months in the job. At some point Roman and his entourage of never has beens, needs to stand back and show some patience.

However the problem in essence was that AVB made an awful lot of mistakes that led to hs downfall.

He came out in week one and said that he was giving everyone a chance to play for their place etc etc.
He should've got rid of a few 'names' at that point and made his mark that he was the boss, he decided their fate.

He tried to change the style that Chelsea and these players had played with for years.
That's all well and good bringing your own style. However it will fail if the players aren't capable of playing that particular style. For example you don't become manager of Messi, Xavi etc and play the long ball game. It won't work. He should've stuck to the blue print, brought in the players he wanted and then evolved the style.

He should a lack of man management skills.
A lot of these has become more apparent since his sacking. However the way Alex and Anelka were treated prior to them being sold was an indicator. To me this was him trying to make a mark. However he picked easy targets and treated them like children. Stories of him timing cars coming into the car park in training being another. Speculation obviously, but there is a lot of it.



Anyhow. The king is dead, long live the king. Looking forward to the night. Chelsea's champions league obituary has been written and delivered already, so tonight is one of them nights were a win, and going through, is a bonus. I've been impressed with Di Matteo so far. Maybe not so much on the pitch, but off the pitch he has been much more assertive and in control while under the spotlight at press conferances than I expected. A cool head there, augers well for during games, in the dressing room etc.

COYB!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 14, 2012, 08:14:39 PM
Chelsea 1 up game on.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: From the Bunker on March 14, 2012, 08:57:49 PM
Get in! ;D

Game off!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 14, 2012, 09:16:18 PM
3-1 game on again.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on March 14, 2012, 09:17:36 PM
Come on Chelsea!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: The Worker on March 14, 2012, 09:37:43 PM
Chelsea deserve to go through.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ross4life on March 14, 2012, 10:01:02 PM
Fair fcuks to Chelsea fine effort tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 14, 2012, 10:08:57 PM
Found myself cheering on Chelsea tonight. Like the way they've gone about their business.


Drogba remains a piece of work though  >:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: The Worker on March 14, 2012, 10:11:09 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 14, 2012, 10:08:57 PM
Found myself cheering on Chelsea tonight. Like the way they've gone about their business.


Drogba remains a piece of work though  >:(

Pantomine character.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ONeill on March 14, 2012, 10:11:28 PM
Drogba's the Man

(https://yfrog.com/g0ylwlkjj:tw1)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ONeill on March 14, 2012, 10:15:50 PM
Well done Chelsea - did what Arsenal couldn't do.

Hope it keeps them pre-occupied a wee bit too...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 14, 2012, 10:16:49 PM
Why was so much hype attached to Napoli? no where near the best in Italy and they were a Europa league team last season well beaten by Liverpool. Well done to Chelsea didn't fail like the other English clubs.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 14, 2012, 10:18:52 PM
fair fcuks to Chelsea - showed some stuff there tonight
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on March 14, 2012, 10:22:30 PM
get f**king in there!! Drogba...f**king legend
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 14, 2012, 10:43:32 PM
(http://i.cr3ation.co.uk/dl/s1/gif/a095b62ba601cdf2e9b5ff3d0e9c8069_biscuitsdrogba.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: BennyCake on March 14, 2012, 10:49:24 PM
Footing Baskets!

Now, just beat City at the weekend too!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: tyroneboi on March 14, 2012, 11:14:30 PM
Good workby JT's PR people tonight - the country hates u send ur condolences to the Belgian kids! Mr Chelsea - man of the people!

Ps good win for Chelsea tonight. Real v Chelsea would be some draw!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 14, 2012, 11:53:22 PM
YYyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeSssssSss
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: gallsman on March 15, 2012, 08:12:58 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 14, 2012, 10:16:49 PM
Why was so much hype attached to Napoli?

Because they're absolutely excellent going forward with some of the most sought after players on the planet and absolutely demolished Chelsea in the first leg?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on March 15, 2012, 09:06:38 AM
Quote from: tyroneboi on March 14, 2012, 11:14:30 PM
Good workby JT's PR people tonight - the country hates u send ur condolences to the Belgian kids! Mr Chelsea - man of the people!
Ps good win for Chelsea tonight. Real v Chelsea would be some draw!

I am reminded of Wilde's definition of a cynic - Someone who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on March 15, 2012, 09:54:40 AM
Now to be a bit more dispassionate...Obviously a great win for Chelsea.  However for the first 25 mins it looked like 4-1 to Napoli was on the cards.  The first goal (brilliant header by Drogba) and the injury to Maggio were the turning points.  From then on it was grind, determination and bottle that got them through.  Strange to say it but over the two games Napoli were probably the better footballing side and in Lavezzi had the best player on either team.  After Terry's goal, Chelsea hardly touched the ball until Inler scored.  Fair dues to Lampard for taking the pen and Ivanovic showed Torres what a striker should be doing.

Despite this unless they draw Apoel or maybe Benfica this will probably be Chelsea's last hurrah in the CL.  Let's face it, Barca would take that defence apart in the Nou Camp.  In the midst of the win there were still worrying signs.  Mata was poor.  Usually his first touch is execellent but he was all over the place last night.  I couldn't believe taking Sturridge off and leaving him on.  Sadly Essien looks finished and was caught dithering on the ball about 6 times.  Torres missed another sitter when the ball bounced over the keeper's head.  I actually thought Lampard was average and tried too many Gerrard-like "Hollywood" passes.  Cole's first instinct now seems to be to foul rather than get forward.

Against that I thought Luiz and Ivanovic had great games and Terry was good after the first 25 mins.  Ramires worked like a Trojan and Drogba was...Drogba, a bit of everything.  I thought Sturridge was doing well and can't work out how Di Matteo thought that Torres was more likely to score ???  Also was there anything in the fact that he brought on Bosingwa for Terry when Cahill was on the bench?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Bingo on March 15, 2012, 10:01:54 AM
John Terrys goal last night was the first from a player-manager  at stamford bridge since Kenny Dalglish scored the winner in 1986.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on March 15, 2012, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: Bingo on March 15, 2012, 10:01:54 AM
John Terrys goal last night was the first from a player-manager  at stamford bridge since Kenny Dalglish scored the winner in 1986.

Rumours are, with three wins in three different competitions, he's nailed on to replace the struggling Dalglish at mid table Liverpool ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Bingo on March 15, 2012, 10:33:37 AM
Quote from: AQMP on March 15, 2012, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: Bingo on March 15, 2012, 10:01:54 AM
John Terrys goal last night was the first from a player-manager  at stamford bridge since Kenny Dalglish scored the winner in 1986.

Rumours are, with three wins in three different competitions, he's nailed on to replace the struggling Dalglish at mid table Liverpool ;)

He could be available as well, rumours coming out this morning that he has been sacked for losing the soap in the bath after the game.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 19, 2012, 10:43:13 PM
Strange decision to have Chelsea's FA Cup semi final on the Sunday as opposed to the Saturday. If, and it's an if, Chelsea beat Benfica their game v Barce/ AC will be played the following Wednesday. Surely the FA would be looking to give their representatives as good a chance as possible.

Don't understand why the Liverpool semi couldn't of been on the Sunday, with Chelsea v Spurs/ Bolton on the Sat evening.


On another point, I remember the press, and a fair few on here slagging Mourinho for his complaints re medical and ambulance facilities at Reading a few years ago. Isn't it lucky that José's 'lies' helped ensure Muamba has a fighting chance?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/bolton-wanderers/9151980/Farbrice-Muamba-best-precautions-cannot-be-fail-safe.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/bolton-wanderers/9151980/Farbrice-Muamba-best-precautions-cannot-be-fail-safe.html)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Minder on March 19, 2012, 10:54:21 PM
Norf the Liverpool game isn't on the Sunday as it would clash with the Hillsborough anniversary.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 20, 2012, 02:05:40 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 19, 2012, 10:54:21 PM
Norf the Liverpool game isn't on the Sunday as it would clash with the Hillsborough anniversary.

Is that the reason? I assume Liverpool have played before on the anniversary of Hillsborough, Heysel etc?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ziggy90 on March 20, 2012, 10:06:57 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 19, 2012, 10:43:13 PM
Strange decision to have Chelsea's FA Cup semi final on the Sunday as opposed to the Saturday. If, and it's an if, Chelsea beat Benfica their game v Barce/ AC will be played the following Wednesday. Surely the FA would be looking to give their representatives as good a chance as possible.

Don't understand why the Liverpool semi couldn't of been on the Sunday, with Chelsea v Spurs/ Bolton on the Sat evening.


On another point, I remember the press, and a fair few on here slagging Mourinho for his complaints re medical and ambulance facilities at Reading a few years ago. Isn't it lucky that José's 'lies' helped ensure Muamba has a fighting chance?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/bolton-wanderers/9151980/Farbrice-Muamba-best-precautions-cannot-be-fail-safe.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/bolton-wanderers/9151980/Farbrice-Muamba-best-precautions-cannot-be-fail-safe.html)

Don't both these teams normally play their league games on a Sunday?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AZOffaly on March 20, 2012, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 20, 2012, 02:05:40 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 19, 2012, 10:54:21 PM
Norf the Liverpool game isn't on the Sunday as it would clash with the Hillsborough anniversary.

Is that the reason? I assume Liverpool have played before on the anniversary of Hillsborough, Heysel etc?

Never on Hillsborough.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 20, 2012, 09:44:17 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 20, 2012, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 20, 2012, 02:05:40 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 19, 2012, 10:54:21 PM
Norf the Liverpool game isn't on the Sunday as it would clash with the Hillsborough anniversary.

Is that the reason? I assume Liverpool have played before on the anniversary of Hillsborough, Heysel etc?

Never on Hillsborough.

Why can't Liverpool play on Friday night if they want to avoid clashing with the Hillsborough date? Not wanting to sound callous, but effectively the FA are handicapping Chelsea to suit Liverpool. Don't understand the sentiment of not playing on that date.

Are Bradford, and Man U allowed to cancel their fixtures that fall on their disasters?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: The Worker on March 20, 2012, 09:49:14 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 20, 2012, 09:44:17 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 20, 2012, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 20, 2012, 02:05:40 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 19, 2012, 10:54:21 PM
Norf the Liverpool game isn't on the Sunday as it would clash with the Hillsborough anniversary.

Is that the reason? I assume Liverpool have played before on the anniversary of Hillsborough, Heysel etc?

Never on Hillsborough.

Why can't Liverpool play on Friday night if they want to avoid clashing with the Hillsborough date? Not wanting to sound callous, but effectively the FA are handicapping Chelsea to suit Liverpool. Don't understand the sentiment of not playing on that date.

Are Bradford, and Man U allowed to cancel their fixtures that fall on their disasters?

3 days rest before a game isnt too much of a handicap in most people's book
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ONeill on March 20, 2012, 10:01:17 PM
WTF - a Chelsea player sacked for setting off a smoke grenade? Cole was a lucky lad then. Didn't he shoot a trainee?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 20, 2012, 10:08:45 PM
Quote from: The Worker on March 20, 2012, 09:49:14 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 20, 2012, 09:44:17 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 20, 2012, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 20, 2012, 02:05:40 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 19, 2012, 10:54:21 PM
Norf the Liverpool game isn't on the Sunday as it would clash with the Hillsborough anniversary.

Is that the reason? I assume Liverpool have played before on the anniversary of Hillsborough, Heysel etc?

Never on Hillsborough.

Why can't Liverpool play on Friday night if they want to avoid clashing with the Hillsborough date? Not wanting to sound callous, but effectively the FA are handicapping Chelsea to suit Liverpool. Don't understand the sentiment of not playing on that date.

Are Bradford, and Man U allowed to cancel their fixtures that fall on their disasters?

3 days rest before a game isnt too much of a handicap in most people's book

My point is that 4 would be better, and I am not sure why the FA aren't supporting their representatives in Europe. Milan have already moved their game back to the Fri or Sat (Can't remember which).

If Liverpool feel they can't play on that date, they could play on the Friday night.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 20, 2012, 10:10:10 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 20, 2012, 10:01:17 PM
WTF - a Chelsea player sacked for setting off a hand grenade? Cole was a lucky lad then. Didn't he shoot a trainee?

He wasn't sacked. Mellis wanted out in the summer anyhow, and in light of what happened, both parties agreed to end the contract mutually. Makes a good story though if he was sacked.

Mellis, and Clifford (His partner in crime), tweeted that earlier.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ONeill on March 20, 2012, 10:14:20 PM
Ah come on - they got rid of him. They investigated the incident and told him to feck off. "Parted company" means 'fcuked out the door".
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on March 21, 2012, 03:40:05 PM
I shall lend my support to Chewsea in El Plastico tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AZOffaly on March 21, 2012, 04:34:17 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 20, 2012, 10:08:45 PM
Quote from: The Worker on March 20, 2012, 09:49:14 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 20, 2012, 09:44:17 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 20, 2012, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 20, 2012, 02:05:40 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 19, 2012, 10:54:21 PM
Norf the Liverpool game isn't on the Sunday as it would clash with the Hillsborough anniversary.

Is that the reason? I assume Liverpool have played before on the anniversary of Hillsborough, Heysel etc?

Never on Hillsborough.

Why can't Liverpool play on Friday night if they want to avoid clashing with the Hillsborough date? Not wanting to sound callous, but effectively the FA are handicapping Chelsea to suit Liverpool. Don't understand the sentiment of not playing on that date.

Are Bradford, and Man U allowed to cancel their fixtures that fall on their disasters?

3 days rest before a game isnt too much of a handicap in most people's book

My point is that 4 would be better, and I am not sure why the FA aren't supporting their representatives in Europe. Milan have already moved their game back to the Fri or Sat (Can't remember which).

If Liverpool feel they can't play on that date, they could play on the Friday night.

That does sound a bit callous. I'm not sure if Liverpool have rejected a Friday night fixture, but I know they have a long standing agreement with the FA and PL about fixtures around the anniversary. I think it's not too much to ask, and show a bit of respect. No idea if Bradford or Utd have the same, but I'd not make strange if they did.

It's not a deliberate attempt to screw Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 21, 2012, 07:00:44 PM
No Kompany or Terry should we expect a high scoring game tonight?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: magpie seanie on March 21, 2012, 09:01:14 PM
Watch very little soccer these days with the exception of United but looking at the game tonight. Am amazed how bad Meireles is - his passing is atrocious. Is he just one of these guys who pops up and scores a goal to justify his existence every now and then?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on March 21, 2012, 09:13:24 PM
Will see now what they are made of.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: magpie seanie on March 21, 2012, 09:22:46 PM
What a joke penalty.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: From the Bunker on March 21, 2012, 09:30:02 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 21, 2012, 09:22:46 PM
What a joke penalty.

ah, a lucky peno, but still a peno, hands were up!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: From the Bunker on March 21, 2012, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on March 21, 2012, 09:13:24 PM
Will see now what they are made of.

Looks like you got your answer! ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 21, 2012, 09:33:25 PM
Tevez comeback could win City the league.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on March 21, 2012, 09:38:42 PM
Good come back for city. May just have secured 2nd for them.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: magpie seanie on March 21, 2012, 09:40:17 PM
Never a pen in a million years but to be fair citeh showed far more will to win than Chelsea who didn't seem too bothered (Mikel being the worst example, never tried a leg).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Gazzler on March 21, 2012, 09:43:52 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 21, 2012, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on March 21, 2012, 09:13:24 PM
Will see now what they are made of.

Looks like you got your answer! ;D

;D

I thought City more than deserved to win. Softish peno alright though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: From the Bunker on March 21, 2012, 09:47:16 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 21, 2012, 09:40:17 PM
Never a pen in a million years but to be fair citeh showed far more will to win than Chelsea who didn't seem too bothered (Mikel being the worst example, never tried a leg).

So when your hands are up and the ball hits from onto the other it's not a peno? I know it was soft but thems the rules.

That result is a huge moral victory for City.

Still Utds to lose, but Utd can still lose it!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 21, 2012, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 21, 2012, 09:47:16 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 21, 2012, 09:40:17 PM
Never a pen in a million years but to be fair citeh showed far more will to win than Chelsea who didn't seem too bothered (Mikel being the worst example, never tried a leg).

So when your hands are up and the ball hits from onto the other it's not a peno? I know it was soft but thems the rules.

That result is a huge moral victory for City.

Still Utds to lose, but Utd can still lose it!

Nine more wins for City and they will be champions it's theirs to lose.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on March 28, 2012, 09:47:18 AM
Champions League Quarter-Final 1st Leg

Benfica 0 - 1 Chelsea

This one seems to have slipped by unnoticed. ;) 

Generally a poor game, RDM did a Napoli-style AVB with the team selection and got away with it.  Just a couple of small points...IF Chelsea get to the semis I'm still of the opinion that they will be taken to the cleaners by Barca or Milan.  John Terry may be the biggest dickhead in football (with Ashley Cole not far behind) but they were both execellent last night.  Torres actually played well :o and a quick mention to Paulo Ferreira who started his first game since New Year's Eve and barely put a foot wrong.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Hashtag on March 28, 2012, 10:00:39 AM
Personally I thought Torres and Luiz were immense. Luiz never put a foot wrong. He has the potential to be a great centre half if he can cut out his errors and genral fookwittery.
Don't like Daniel Sturridge- headless chicken at times. Very greedy too. No vision. Came on last night and Chelsea lost their shape badly.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on March 28, 2012, 10:08:04 AM
Quote from: Hashtag on March 28, 2012, 10:00:39 AM
Personally I thought Torres and Luiz were immense. Luiz never put a foot wrong. He has the potential to be a great centre half if he can cut out his errors and genral fookwittery.
Don't like Daniel Sturridge- headless chicken at times. Very greedy too. No vision. Came on last night and Chelsea lost their shape badly.

Overall Sturridge has been Chelsea's best forward this season but I have to agree, recently he looks like he's believing his own publicity.  When he gets near the box he's forgotten to look up an see if there's another player in a better position than him.  I have been a big critic of Torres but if Sturridge could deliver a final pass like him we wouldn't be talking so much about Torres' lack of goals.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AZOffaly on March 28, 2012, 11:54:05 AM
I thought Torres was excellent last night. Fair play to him for keeping going, and I'd like to see him do well. Back at Liverpool
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on March 28, 2012, 12:28:35 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 28, 2012, 11:54:05 AM
I thought Torres was excellent last night. Fair play to him for keeping going, and I'd like to see him do well. Back at Liverpool[/b]

No, we wont take Carroll off your hands!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ballinaman on March 31, 2012, 01:22:13 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ross4life on April 15, 2012, 07:44:04 PM
My FA cup tip still going strong. I read today the last three times Liverpool defeated Everton in the semi final they went on to lose the final.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Gazzler on April 15, 2012, 08:06:05 PM
Terry after saying he knew it wasn't a goal but yet he went off celebrating.
Classy as always John.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on April 15, 2012, 08:19:54 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 15, 2012, 07:44:04 PM
My FA cup tip still going strong. I read today the last three times Liverpool defeated Everton in the semi final they went on to lose the final.

Going by the semi finals it would be very hard to see that changing.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on April 25, 2012, 08:08:23 PM
What's this thread doing on p5??

Now that my head has stopped buzzing, perhaps a more, ahem, sober reflection.  From a Chelsea supporter's pont of view probably the greatest result in the club's history even bettering beating Real Madrid in the Cup Winners Cup (remember that?) final in 1971 with big John Dempsey getting the winner.

The last 10 mins of the first half were completely bizarre and the second half was more bizarre than that!

Red card for Terry?  100%, no excuses, and he deserves to miss the final for out and out stupidity.

Chelsea's tactics?  Well what other way is there to play against Barca?  It's not complicated, defend like f**k and try to sneak a goal.  I will admit and I have posted in other threads that I thought Chelsea would get sliced apart..and probably the Chelsea of AVB would have been.  But the defensive display was as good as it could have been especially with a makeshift back four with noted liability Bosingwa at centre back.  Though it's worth pointing out that Ivanovic has played centre back for Serbia many times.

Barca?  Well I'm going to court controversy here...after Messi missed the penalty he was virtually anonymous and Barca actually weren't very good in the last 25 mins.  Xavi hit more bad passes during that game than in the rest of his career put together.  Thet looked to me like a team that had run out of steam a bit.

The final??  No matter who it is Chelsea will be underdogs.  Terry will be missing (no complaints)  Merieles (meh), Ivanovic will be a big miss as I said due to his experience at centre back but Ramires' absence is critical.  He was my man of he match last night, from filling in at right back to the Messi-like goal, an absolute lion!  He had a bit of a dip in form from Xmas til AVB was sacked but overall he's probably been Chelsea's player of the season and in the Di Matteo "era" he's been outstanding.  Time for Fat Frank to stop mouthing and step up (though his passes for the Drogba and Ramires' goals were sublime).  Who know Di Matteo might bring himself on in the final!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ONeill on April 25, 2012, 08:25:58 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 25, 2012, 08:08:23 PM


Barca?  Well I'm going to court controversy here...after Messi missed the penalty he was virtually anonymous



Erm, watch it again. Every attack went through him in the last 25 mins. He even hit the post. Probably had 200 touches in that time.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 25, 2012, 08:39:49 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 25, 2012, 08:25:58 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 25, 2012, 08:08:23 PM


Barca?  Well I'm going to court controversy here...after Messi missed the penalty he was virtually anonymous



Erm, watch it again. Every attack went through him in the last 25 mins. He even hit the post. Probably had 200 touches in that time.

Yea but how many times did he make a poor decision, he was very un-Messi like and I agree with AQMP I thought Barca's midfeld in particular looked very tired. RDM's decision to rest players against Arsenal was good management and one of the factors in Chelsea's success last night.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ONeill on April 25, 2012, 08:46:23 PM
Anonymous and ineffective are two different things. Yes, he made more errors than you'd normally see - probably one in every 15 times he touched the ball.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on April 26, 2012, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 25, 2012, 08:25:58 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 25, 2012, 08:08:23 PM


Barca?  Well I'm going to court controversy here...after Messi missed the penalty he was virtually anonymous



Erm, watch it again. Every attack went through him in the last 25 mins. He even hit the post. Probably had 200 touches in that time.

196 two metre lateral or backward passes.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: heganboy on April 26, 2012, 01:57:53 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 29, 2011, 09:50:35 AM
Roberto Di Matteo to become Villas-Boas' first signing.

On the face of it, seems like a good move.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/29/roberto-di-matteo-chelsea-assistant

my favorite post of the year
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Gazzler on April 26, 2012, 02:05:41 PM
So QPR having a meeting to decide if they will shake Terry's hand or not.
While I think all this handshake malarkey is a load of bull, there must be a reason they don't want to shake his hand so either all of QPR are lying or Terry is lying about what comments were said.
Hopefully they ban Terry for a few months when this trial is over.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Denn Forever on April 26, 2012, 02:34:51 PM
Ferdinand's lawyers have advised him not to shake hands with Terry.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 26, 2012, 03:02:48 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 26, 2012, 02:34:51 PM
Ferdinand's lawyers have advised him not to shake hands with Terry.

He should shake his hand and hit him a good dig in the guts, just the way we were all greeted to senior football!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on April 26, 2012, 03:34:38 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on April 26, 2012, 02:05:41 PM
So QPR having a meeting to decide if they will shake Terry's hand or not.
While I think all this handshake malarkey is a load of bull, there must be a reason they don't want to shake his hand so either all of QPR are lying or Terry is lying about what comments were said.
Hopefully they ban Terry for a few months when this trial is over.

Is there any point in having a trial?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: EC Unique on April 26, 2012, 04:21:45 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 26, 2012, 03:34:38 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on April 26, 2012, 02:05:41 PM
So QPR having a meeting to decide if they will shake Terry's hand or not.
While I think all this handshake malarkey is a load of bull, there must be a reason they don't want to shake his hand so either all of QPR are lying or Terry is lying about what comments were said.
Hopefully they ban Terry for a few months when this trial is over.

Is there any point in having a trial?

No. He is Innocent because John ''is not that type of player''  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Agent Orange on April 26, 2012, 10:15:57 PM
Chelsea-QPR handshakes cancelled because of Terry case

The Premier League has announced there will be no pre-match handshakes at Sunday's game between Chelsea and QPR because of the legal case involving John Terry and Anton Ferdinand.

Terry is accused of racially abusing Ferdinand during a match at Loftus Road in October.

He denies the accusation but faces a court case, which starts on 9 July.

Ferdinand's lawyers had told him not to shake Terry's hand for fear that it could prejudice the forthcoming trial.

"The Premier League position on the pre-match handshake convention remains consistent," said a Premier League statement. "In all normal circumstances it must be observed.

"However, after discussions with both Chelsea and Queens Park Rangers about the potential and specific legal context in relation to John Terry and Anton Ferdinand, the decision has been taken to suspend the handshake convention for Sunday's match."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17855978
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on April 28, 2012, 02:22:18 PM
Chelsea sign German international Marko Marin

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17880807

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 29, 2012, 02:55:05 PM
The Torres of old is back!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Orangemac on April 29, 2012, 09:46:56 PM
Di Matteo has done some job in fairness for someone who was supposedly not popular with the players.Having said that he has still work to do to qualify for next years CL.

Will Roman keep him on for next season or can he bring in the likes of Guardiola?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: supersarsfields on May 20, 2012, 09:16:14 AM
Norf? You ok?

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: ziggy90 on May 20, 2012, 09:18:49 AM
Congratulations and well done to everybody connected to Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Denn Forever on May 20, 2012, 09:24:14 AM
Quote from: supersarsfields on May 20, 2012, 09:16:14 AM
Norf? You ok?

I'd say internet forums are the last thing on his mind right now.  Big greasy fry and a many big bottles of Lucozade original.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Minder on May 20, 2012, 05:01:43 PM
Strange time for Torres to start whinging.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on May 21, 2012, 09:13:09 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 20, 2012, 05:01:43 PM
Strange time for Torres to start whinging.

He's a professional footballer, Minder, spoilt, arrogant and rich.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- European Cup Winners 2012
Post by: AQMP on May 21, 2012, 09:23:27 AM
Quote from: supersarsfields on May 20, 2012, 09:16:14 AM
Norf? You ok?

I think Norf Tyrone has changed jobs/circumstances and that means he isn't around as much anymore.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AZOffaly on May 21, 2012, 09:34:30 AM
Delighted for the Chelsea posters on here, congratulations lads, hope ye enjoyed it.

Also glad to see lads like Cech come good, and even Lampard and Drogba winning their medals. 

I think Torres was thick at the end of the game because he wanted to take one, and wasn't allowed :D The Sky commentators were slating him because they assumed he didn't want to take one.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AZOffaly on May 21, 2012, 09:37:02 AM
Oh yeah, delighted for 'Arry as well. Poor auld Jamie must have been confused between cousin Frank and poor auld 'Arry.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- European Cup Winners 2012
Post by: AQMP on May 21, 2012, 09:55:00 AM
Well, where do you start with that.  My good feelings have been tempered somewhat by Antrim hurlers' meltdown in the Leinster Championship on Sat afternoon and so I had low expectations by the time 7:45pm arrived.

Let's be brutally honest.  The starting 11 was probably Chelsea's weakest team in the last 15 years.  Two dodgy, crocked centre halves, Bosingwa, Bertrand who has started only 3 PL games and playing out of position, and Kalou (should have been dropped for that hairstyle alone!).  Tactically Chelsea could only play one way.  RDM didn't have the (fit) players to go out and attack Bayern.  Although I think had Terry, Ivanaovic and Ramires been playing Chelsea would have won for, while they were the better team on the night, I don't think Bayern were up to much either.  No more complaints about the Barca semi final three years ago, Chelsea have had all that bad luck repaid over the last three rounds.

On the "positive side", Ashley Cole, who as a Chelsea fan I struggle to contemplate as a fellow member of the human race, was by far and away the best player on the pitch.  He did make one error which led to the goal but in the euphoria of the win Cech got away with frankly a bit of a howler.  Mentions for Ryan Bertrand who didn't put a foot wrong, Bosingwa, whom I don't rate, played well as did Sideshow Bob (and I must admit I was 100% sure he was going to balloon the penalty into row ZZ).  Di Matteo seems to have made Mikel into a player too.  A player whom Mourinho said was going to be his best ever signing has struggled for the last two or three seasons but has got an extended run in the team under RDM.  I'd say Di Matteo will get the manager's job for next year but on the understanding that if Guardiola becomes available he'll have to move aside this time next year.

Drogba...a f**king beast!!  Flawed, yes, but on the balance of things you won't get many Chelsea fans to say a bad word about him.  I know he gave away the penalty but he's probably the best defending forward in England.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2012, 10:46:03 AM
QuoteDrogba...a f**king beast!!  Flawed, yes, but on the balance of things you won't get many Chlesea fans to say a bad word about him.  I know he gave away the penalty but he's probably the best defending forward in England.

Big fan of the Drog, only grew to respect him after the regular beastings he gave Arsenal, delighted for him. He should move on now, no better way to leave Chelsea.

Big summer for Chelsea. RA has his UCL trophy, will he spend the money that will be needed to overhaul that Chelsea squad???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: AQMP on May 21, 2012, 11:00:20 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2012, 10:46:03 AM
QuoteDrogba...a f**king beast!!  Flawed, yes, but on the balance of things you won't get many Chlesea fans to say a bad word about him.  I know he gave away the penalty but he's probably the best defending forward in England.

Big fan of the Drog, only grew to respect him after the regular beastings he gave Arsenal, delighted for him. He should move on now, no better way to leave Chelsea.

Big summer for Chelsea. RA has his UCL trophy, will he spend the money that will be needed to overhaul that Chelsea squad???

Now that's it's been won, I think he'll do a Fergie and rejuvenate the team.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Reserve League South Champions 2011
Post by: Bingo on May 21, 2012, 11:17:55 AM
Will it be the story that he'll try to build the club itself and take a longer term view - start to put trust in younger players, build from within, let a manager have time to change players, etc.

He has what he wanted, so maybe he'll be more hands off.

Or will he up anchor and sail off into the sunset.

I don't think he'll leave Di Matteo in charge either.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- European Cup Winners 2012
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 22, 2012, 01:46:15 AM
Quote from: AQMP on May 21, 2012, 09:23:27 AM
Quote from: supersarsfields on May 20, 2012, 09:16:14 AM
Norf? You ok?

I think Norf Tyrone has changed jobs/circumstances and that means he isn't around as much anymore.

Nah nothing's changed. Thought I'd better come back and update the thread title in the interests of continuity.

A wee nosey round shows my why I don't bother with the 'soccer' threads much on here anymore!

Chelsea beat Bayern in Munich to win the CL, and people can't help but vent their spleen at JT because the captain of the Club wore a Chelsea kit! No abuse to Meireles, Chalobah, Kane, Hutch, Ramires, Ivanovic, etc. Just Terry!

Far too much negative energy abounding!

I might be back for the Super Cup, or The World Club Championships to update then!

Good man AQMP!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- European Cup Winners 2012
Post by: thebigfella on May 22, 2012, 02:23:32 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 22, 2012, 01:46:15 AM
Quote from: AQMP on May 21, 2012, 09:23:27 AM
Quote from: supersarsfields on May 20, 2012, 09:16:14 AM
Norf? You ok?

I think Norf Tyrone has changed jobs/circumstances and that means he isn't around as much anymore.

Nah nothing's changed. Thought I'd better come back and update the thread title in the interests of continuity.

A wee nosey round shows my why I don't bother with the 'soccer' threads much on here anymore!

Chelsea beat Bayern in Munich to win the CL, and people can't help but vent their spleen at JT because the captain of the Club wore a Chelsea kit! No abuse to Meireles, Chalobah, Kane, Hutch, Ramires, Ivanovic, etc. Just Terry!

Far too much negative energy abounding!

I might be back for the Super Cup, or The World Club Championships to update then!

Good man AQMP!

Yep because he is a sc**bag kunt.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- European Cup Winners 2012
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 22, 2012, 03:12:47 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 22, 2012, 01:46:15 AM
Quote from: AQMP on May 21, 2012, 09:23:27 AM
Quote from: supersarsfields on May 20, 2012, 09:16:14 AM
Norf? You ok?

I think Norf Tyrone has changed jobs/circumstances and that means he isn't around as much anymore.

Nah nothing's changed. Thought I'd better come back and update the thread title in the interests of continuity.

A wee nosey round shows my why I don't bother with the 'soccer' threads much on here anymore!

Chelsea beat Bayern in Munich to win the CL, and people can't help but vent their spleen at JT because the captain of the Club wore a Chelsea kit! No abuse to Meireles, Chalobah, Kane, Hutch, Ramires, Ivanovic, etc. Just Terry!

Far too much negative energy abounding!

I might be back for the Super Cup, or The World Club Championships to update then!

Good man AQMP!
None of those got sent off v Barcelona and almost cost Chelsea the champions league.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- European Cup Winners 2012
Post by: AQMP on May 22, 2012, 09:35:13 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 22, 2012, 03:12:47 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 22, 2012, 01:46:15 AM
Quote from: AQMP on May 21, 2012, 09:23:27 AM
Quote from: supersarsfields on May 20, 2012, 09:16:14 AM
Norf? You ok?

I think Norf Tyrone has changed jobs/circumstances and that means he isn't around as much anymore.

Nah nothing's changed. Thought I'd better come back and update the thread title in the interests of continuity.

A wee nosey round shows my why I don't bother with the 'soccer' threads much on here anymore!

Chelsea beat Bayern in Munich to win the CL, and people can't help but vent their spleen at JT because the captain of the Club wore a Chelsea kit! No abuse to Meireles, Chalobah, Kane, Hutch, Ramires, Ivanovic, etc. Just Terry!

Far too much negative energy abounding!

I might be back for the Super Cup, or The World Club Championships to update then!

Good man AQMP!
None of those got sent off v Barcelona and almost cost Chelsea the champions league.

Straw...clutch...Ivanovic, Meireles and Ramires "got themselves booked" and almost cost Chelsea the Champions League (which I believe they won??)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on May 22, 2012, 10:10:18 AM
Took a while for the title of the thread to change. I was beginning to wonder whether it was being retained in an ironic fashion ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on May 22, 2012, 10:11:08 AM
As I've said before with Dorgba you got a bit of a mixed bag but when he stayed on his feet and concentrated on football, a savage player.

Drogba to leave Chelsea

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/21/chelsea-fernando-torres-didier-drogba

Didier Drogba has confirmed he will leave Chelsea this summer but Fernando Torres will not be following his fellow striker out of the club despite the Champions League winners' hierarchy having been left distinctly unimpressed by the timing of the Spaniard's publicly expressed frustration at life as a bit-part player at Stamford Bridge.

Drogba is expected to join the money-flushed Chinese side Shanghai Shenhua, who could offer wages of up to £250,000 a week, after telling France Football magazine that he broke down when telling his team-mates that he will be moving on.

The 34-year-old said he did not "envisage sitting on the bench watching others play at a time when the club is looking at putting together a new team" – and it appears this fresh Chelsea will have room for Torres, who within hours of the European Cup triumph voiced exasperation at playing second fiddle to Drogba.

The Ivorian's contract will expire next month and he told France Football: "We [he and his team-mates] will not be together next season," he said. "As I have decided to leave, I wanted to tell them to their faces.

"They made me break down. I found it hard to admit that it was finished with me and the club. But I don't envisage sitting on the bench watching others play at a time when the club is looking at putting together a new team. So there we go, I am readying myself for a great leap into the unknown. It will be another adventure."



Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AZOffaly on May 22, 2012, 10:27:52 AM
This was denied (by Drogba) according to Sky Sports News this morning, but I'd imagine he is on the way alright.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 22, 2012, 10:35:47 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 22, 2012, 10:27:52 AM
This was denied (by Drogba) according to Sky Sports News this morning, but I'd imagine he is on the way alright.

Hopefully he will be gone, glad to see the back of the big hoor!!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: mick999 on May 22, 2012, 11:48:57 AM
Have John Terry's boots gone to Tipp ??

(http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Screen-shot-2012-05-22-at-11.19.42.jpg)


http://www.broadsheet.ie/2012/05/22/john-terrys-boots-the-tipp-connection/
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: johnneycool on May 22, 2012, 12:53:03 PM
Quote from: mick999 on May 22, 2012, 11:48:57 AM
Have John Terry's boots gone to Tipp ??

(http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Screen-shot-2012-05-22-at-11.19.42.jpg)


http://www.broadsheet.ie/2012/05/22/john-terrys-boots-the-tipp-connection/

At least they might see some action unlike the other night!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: GAA_Talk on May 22, 2012, 03:17:41 PM
It's confirmed that Drogba is to leave in the summer.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 22, 2012, 04:58:44 PM
Quote from: mick999 on May 22, 2012, 11:48:57 AM
Have John Terry's boots gone to Tipp ??

(http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Screen-shot-2012-05-22-at-11.19.42.jpg)


http://www.broadsheet.ie/2012/05/22/john-terrys-boots-the-tipp-connection/

That's from 2 years ago.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: laoislad on May 22, 2012, 05:09:12 PM
Quote from: GAA_Talk on May 22, 2012, 03:17:41 PM
It's confirmed that Drogba is to leave in the summer.

Didier Drogba Chelsea Career Statistics:

341 apps,
157 goals,
3 Prem Titles,
4 FA Cups,
2 Carling Cups,
1 Champions League and.......







833,467 dives
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AZOffaly on May 22, 2012, 05:10:27 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 22, 2012, 05:09:12 PM
Quote from: GAA_Talk on May 22, 2012, 03:17:41 PM
It's confirmed that Drogba is to leave in the summer.

Didier Drogba Chelsea Career Statistics:

341 apps,
157 goals,
3 Prem Titles,
4 FA Cups,
2 Carling Cups,
1 Champions League and.......







833,467 dives

Some record in fairness. The Champions League caps it off.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 22, 2012, 05:27:58 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 22, 2012, 05:10:27 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 22, 2012, 05:09:12 PM
Quote from: GAA_Talk on May 22, 2012, 03:17:41 PM
It's confirmed that Drogba is to leave in the summer.

Didier Drogba Chelsea Career Statistics:

341 apps,
157 goals,
3 Prem Titles,
4 FA Cups,
2 Carling Cups,
1 Champions League and.......







833,467 dives

Some record in fairness. The Champions League caps it off.

Personally speaking I reckon he will treasure the Carling Cup medals most, real top quality competition that and only really great teams win it :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Puckoon on May 22, 2012, 05:32:58 PM
A beast of a player the majority of the time, and I reckon the PL will be poorer for his departure.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 23, 2012, 04:51:25 PM
One of my favourite Drogba moments

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybRbGakYyVQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybRbGakYyVQ)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on May 23, 2012, 04:56:16 PM
I'll always give credit to Drogba for admitting he dived. He rowed back on it moments later but even those few seconds of honesty were more than any of his peers could manage.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on May 23, 2012, 05:33:41 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on May 22, 2012, 05:32:58 PM
A beast of a player the majority of the time, and I reckon the PL will be poorer for his departure.

x2. Will be a massive loss to Chelski but maybe time for Torres to stand up.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ziggy90 on May 23, 2012, 05:57:27 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 22, 2012, 05:27:58 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 22, 2012, 05:10:27 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 22, 2012, 05:09:12 PM
Quote from: GAA_Talk on May 22, 2012, 03:17:41 PM
It's confirmed that Drogba is to leave in the summer.

Didier Drogba Chelsea Career Statistics:

341 apps,
157 goals,
3 Prem Titles,
4 FA Cups,
2 Carling Cups,
1 Champions League and.......







833,467 dives

Some record in fairness. The Champions League caps it off.

Personally speaking I reckon he will treasure the Carling Cup medals most, real top quality competition that and only really great teams win it :P

Spotty dog, they're the real giants of football. :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on May 24, 2012, 11:19:20 AM
Chelsea doing a Fergie and dismantling a cup winning side?  Bosingwa and Kalou let go.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/24/chelsea-jose-bosingwa-salomon-kalou-released

Essien, Malouda and Paulo Ferreira may join them.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on May 25, 2012, 10:19:47 AM
Pep to Chelsea??

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/25/pep-guardiola-barcelona-chelsea

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 28, 2012, 03:13:13 PM
That bad boy John Terry ruining everyone's fun again by just doing as he was told. What a non story that was...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/522935_10151011648468455_592853454_12457763_1092516102_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ziggy90 on May 28, 2012, 03:49:48 PM
http://www.thefa.com/Competitions/FACompetitions/TheFAWomensCup/NewsandFeatures/2012/birmingham-city-chelsea-the-final-karen-carney


Local hero, of good Roscommon (Ballaghadereen) stock. ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on May 28, 2012, 10:25:31 PM
Hazard chooses Chelsea. Was pretty sure it was not Utd what with all this twitter nonsense. He seems a bit self important. Should suit Chelsea well.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Orangemac on May 28, 2012, 11:07:41 PM
Is Hazard not a winger,with Mata and Ramires already there should Chelsea not be concentrating on a good quality central midfielder to stamp authority on games?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 29, 2012, 05:52:19 AM
Quote from: Orangemac on May 28, 2012, 11:07:41 PM
Is Hazard not a winger,with Mata and Ramires already there should Chelsea not be concentrating on a good quality central midfielder to stamp authority on games?

Mata and Hazard are 'number 10s', so Hazard can share/ swop with Mata who was the sole creative outlet this year. Ramires is a midfielder who was forced to the right wing last year to 'do a job'.

Hazard (If signed), De Bryene, Marin, Luiz, Ramires, Mata, Bertrand, Mikel, Sturridge. Not so 'old' no more.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Jonah on May 29, 2012, 08:45:43 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2012, 10:25:31 PM
Hazard chooses Chelsea. Was pretty sure it was not Utd what with all this twitter nonsense. He seems a bit self important. Should suit Chelsea well.
And yet if he had chosen United you would be the first on with a page full of smileys and saying how great he was  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on May 29, 2012, 09:35:54 AM
Quote from: Jonah on May 29, 2012, 08:45:43 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2012, 10:25:31 PM
Hazard chooses Chelsea. Was pretty sure it was not Utd what with all this twitter nonsense. He seems a bit self important. Should suit Chelsea well.
And yet if he had chosen United you would be the first on with a page full of smileys and saying how great he was  ;D

I'm not denying he is a great player. It is just all this twitter rubbish. If he were signing for Utd you can be sure he would not have been at it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: johnneycool on May 29, 2012, 09:59:01 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 29, 2012, 09:35:54 AM
Quote from: Jonah on May 29, 2012, 08:45:43 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2012, 10:25:31 PM
Hazard chooses Chelsea. Was pretty sure it was not Utd what with all this twitter nonsense. He seems a bit self important. Should suit Chelsea well.
And yet if he had chosen United you would be the first on with a page full of smileys and saying how great he was  ;D

I'm not denying he is a great player. It is just all this twitter rubbish. If he were signing for Utd you can be sure he would not have been at it.

Has rubber lips Rio closed his twitter account then?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Jonah on May 29, 2012, 11:20:08 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 29, 2012, 09:35:54 AM
Quote from: Jonah on May 29, 2012, 08:45:43 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2012, 10:25:31 PM
Hazard chooses Chelsea. Was pretty sure it was not Utd what with all this twitter nonsense. He seems a bit self important. Should suit Chelsea well.
And yet if he had chosen United you would be the first on with a page full of smileys and saying how great he was  ;D

I'm not denying he is a great player. It is just all this twitter rubbish. If he were signing for Utd you can be sure he would not have been at it.
God love ya sure aren't you an innocent young soul.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on May 29, 2012, 11:36:29 AM
Don;t know anything about this guy Hazard but at £32mill and with a Twitter habit he'd better be good.  Talk of Hulk coming to Chelsea.  The few times I saw him play for Porto he didn't look up to much??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on May 29, 2012, 11:42:51 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 29, 2012, 09:59:01 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 29, 2012, 09:35:54 AM
Quote from: Jonah on May 29, 2012, 08:45:43 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2012, 10:25:31 PM
Hazard chooses Chelsea. Was pretty sure it was not Utd what with all this twitter nonsense. He seems a bit self important. Should suit Chelsea well.
And yet if he had chosen United you would be the first on with a page full of smileys and saying how great he was  ;D

I'm not denying he is a great player. It is just all this twitter rubbish. If he were signing for Utd you can be sure he would not have been at it.

Has rubber lips Rio closed his twitter account then?

Don't know. I'm not on twatter. My point is announcing which club he will joint via a tweet instead of letting the club do the business is a bit senseless. Do you not agree?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: johnneycool on May 29, 2012, 11:51:48 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 29, 2012, 11:42:51 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 29, 2012, 09:59:01 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 29, 2012, 09:35:54 AM
Quote from: Jonah on May 29, 2012, 08:45:43 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2012, 10:25:31 PM
Hazard chooses Chelsea. Was pretty sure it was not Utd what with all this twitter nonsense. He seems a bit self important. Should suit Chelsea well.
And yet if he had chosen United you would be the first on with a page full of smileys and saying how great he was  ;D

I'm not denying he is a great player. It is just all this twitter rubbish. If he were signing for Utd you can be sure he would not have been at it.

Has rubber lips Rio closed his twitter account then?

Don't know. I'm not on twatter. My point is announcing which club he will joint via a tweet instead of letting the club do the business is a bit senseless. Do you not agree?

Agree entirely, but sense and professional footballers in general don't normally go together, especially those who publish their musings on twitter and the likes. Hazard is hardly the first and he won't be the last.

On another note, he is a bad 'un.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/why-chelsea-could-regret-eden-hazard-851748 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/why-chelsea-could-regret-eden-hazard-851748)


Burger eating bollocks.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 29, 2012, 12:32:58 PM
Hazard is a seriously good player and will grace any team he plays on.  A bit of a bollix maybe but sure who isn't when they're that good.  As a Liverpool fan it maybe a good thing as maybe the money that is now available will be used to secure a permanent deal for Joseph Cole Esq and keep him sipping wine and living in the new life he has become accustomed to!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 29, 2012, 04:45:10 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 29, 2012, 11:42:51 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 29, 2012, 09:59:01 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 29, 2012, 09:35:54 AM
Quote from: Jonah on May 29, 2012, 08:45:43 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2012, 10:25:31 PM
Hazard chooses Chelsea. Was pretty sure it was not Utd what with all this twitter nonsense. He seems a bit self important. Should suit Chelsea well.
And yet if he had chosen United you would be the first on with a page full of smileys and saying how great he was  ;D

I'm not denying he is a great player. It is just all this twitter rubbish. If he were signing for Utd you can be sure he would not have been at it.

Has rubber lips Rio closed his twitter account then?

Don't know. I'm not on twatter. My point is announcing which club he will joint via a tweet instead of letting the club do the business is a bit senseless. Do you not agree?

Jonah you did post the same type of comment.

Quote from: Jonah on May 28, 2012, 03:05:55 PM
This Hazard player seems a bit of a knob the way he is conducting himself over which club he will sign for.
Revealing his decision on Twitter today he says ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Jonah on May 29, 2012, 05:00:37 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 29, 2012, 04:45:10 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 29, 2012, 11:42:51 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 29, 2012, 09:59:01 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 29, 2012, 09:35:54 AM
Quote from: Jonah on May 29, 2012, 08:45:43 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2012, 10:25:31 PM
Hazard chooses Chelsea. Was pretty sure it was not Utd what with all this twitter nonsense. He seems a bit self important. Should suit Chelsea well.
And yet if he had chosen United you would be the first on with a page full of smileys and saying how great he was  ;D

I'm not denying he is a great player. It is just all this twitter rubbish. If he were signing for Utd you can be sure he would not have been at it.

Has rubber lips Rio closed his twitter account then?

Don't know. I'm not on twatter. My point is announcing which club he will joint via a tweet instead of letting the club do the business is a bit senseless. Do you not agree?

Jonah you did post the same type of comment.

Quote from: Jonah on May 28, 2012, 03:05:55 PM
This Hazard player seems a bit of a knob the way he is conducting himself over which club he will sign for.
Revealing his decision on Twitter today he says ::)

So ?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 29, 2012, 11:53:31 PM
Quote from: Jonah on May 29, 2012, 05:00:37 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 29, 2012, 04:45:10 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 29, 2012, 11:42:51 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 29, 2012, 09:59:01 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 29, 2012, 09:35:54 AM
Quote from: Jonah on May 29, 2012, 08:45:43 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2012, 10:25:31 PM
Hazard chooses Chelsea. Was pretty sure it was not Utd what with all this twitter nonsense. He seems a bit self important. Should suit Chelsea well.
And yet if he had chosen United you would be the first on with a page full of smileys and saying how great he was  ;D

I'm not denying he is a great player. It is just all this twitter rubbish. If he were signing for Utd you can be sure he would not have been at it.

Has rubber lips Rio closed his twitter account then?

Don't know. I'm not on twatter. My point is announcing which club he will joint via a tweet instead of letting the club do the business is a bit senseless. Do you not agree?

Jonah you did post the same type of comment.

Quote from: Jonah on May 28, 2012, 03:05:55 PM
This Hazard player seems a bit of a knob the way he is conducting himself over which club he will sign for.
Revealing his decision on Twitter today he says ::)

So ?

Why questioning someone that has the same opinion?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Jonah on May 30, 2012, 09:39:18 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 29, 2012, 11:53:31 PM
Quote from: Jonah on May 29, 2012, 05:00:37 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 29, 2012, 04:45:10 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 29, 2012, 11:42:51 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 29, 2012, 09:59:01 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 29, 2012, 09:35:54 AM
Quote from: Jonah on May 29, 2012, 08:45:43 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2012, 10:25:31 PM
Hazard chooses Chelsea. Was pretty sure it was not Utd what with all this twitter nonsense. He seems a bit self important. Should suit Chelsea well.
And yet if he had chosen United you would be the first on with a page full of smileys and saying how great he was  ;D

I'm not denying he is a great player. It is just all this twitter rubbish. If he were signing for Utd you can be sure he would not have been at it.

Has rubber lips Rio closed his twitter account then?

Don't know. I'm not on twatter. My point is announcing which club he will joint via a tweet instead of letting the club do the business is a bit senseless. Do you not agree?

Jonah you did post the same type of comment.

Quote from: Jonah on May 28, 2012, 03:05:55 PM
This Hazard player seems a bit of a knob the way he is conducting himself over which club he will sign for.
Revealing his decision on Twitter today he says ::)

So ?

Why questioning someone that has the same opinion?
No I didn't.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on June 01, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
According to the Guardian Chelsea have agreed to buy Givanildo Vieira de Souza (Hulk) for £38mill!!  I've seen him play a few times for Porto in the Champions League and he always looked like a wooden one ???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 01, 2012, 09:48:14 AM
Quote from: AQMP on June 01, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
According to the Guardian Chelsea have agreed to buy Givanildo Vieira de Souza (Hulk) for £38mill!!  I've seen him play a few times for Porto in the Champions League and he always looked like a wooden one ???

Ain't no Drogba!!! 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Minder on June 01, 2012, 10:59:24 AM
Quote from: AQMP on June 01, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
According to the Guardian Chelsea have agreed to buy Givanildo Vieira de Souza (Hulk) for £38mill!!  I've seen him play a few times for Porto in the Champions League and he always looked like a wooden one ???

I think he will be Incredible for Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on June 01, 2012, 11:36:04 AM
He is a good player but a bit of a libability if he looses his temper.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: heganboy on June 01, 2012, 11:42:28 AM
Hulk, hazard, mata and Torres?
Doesn't suck

Jealous Liverpool fan
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on June 13, 2012, 05:32:11 PM
Roberto Di Matteo appointed Chelsea manager on a two year contract
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on October 30, 2012, 11:57:21 AM
Seems it really kicked off after the game on Sunday! Chelsea could be in a bit of bother here.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/revealed-details-of-mark-clattenburg-vs-1407304 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/revealed-details-of-mark-clattenburg-vs-1407304)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2012, 12:10:23 PM
What the hell was happening here? - http://www.balls.ie/football/footage-of-chelsea-fans-knocking-steward-over-ad-hoarding-after-chicharitos-goal/
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AZOffaly on October 30, 2012, 12:13:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 30, 2012, 12:10:23 PM
What the hell was happening here? - http://www.balls.ie/football/footage-of-chelsea-fans-knocking-steward-over-ad-hoarding-after-chicharitos-goal/

I saw that at the time. When Hernandez did his celebration in front of them, some of the Chelsea fans went nuts. They were throwing stuff, including coins, and you could see the United players getting pissed off. I think the steward got caught up in that.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on October 30, 2012, 01:14:01 PM
More detail on Clattenburgate coming out.  Apparently the Chelsea claims are that Clattenburg referred to Juan Mata as "a Spanish twat" (though this was not heard by Mata himself but reported by another Chelsea player) and that he referred to Mikel as a "monkey".

Either the Chelsea players misheard, or Chelsea are up to no good, or Clattenburg is a complete spacer (which is possible too...)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on October 30, 2012, 02:24:57 PM
Quote from: AQMP on October 30, 2012, 01:14:01 PM
More detail on Clattenburgate coming out.  Apparently the Chelsea claims are that Clattenburg referred to Juan Mata as "a Spanish t**t" (though this was not heard by Mata himself but reported by another Chelsea player) and that he referred to Mikel as a "monkey".
Either the Chelsea players misheard, or Chelsea are up to no good, or Clattenburg is a complete spacer (which is possible too...)

I would find it very hard to believe that a referee of that stature would be so stupid in this day what with tv watching every move from every angle and the mic on the side of his face.

I call bullsh1t on this one.

If he is done I can see the other refs going on strike. There will be fireworks before it is over and I can see Chelsea wishing they had never mentioned it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 30, 2012, 02:54:00 PM
Quote from: AQMP on October 30, 2012, 01:14:01 PM
More detail on Clattenburgate coming out.  Apparently the Chelsea claims are that Clattenburg referred to Juan Mata as "a Spanish t**t" (though this was not heard by Mata himself but reported by another Chelsea player) and that he referred to Mikel as a "monkey".

Either the Chelsea players misheard, or Chelsea are up to no good, or Clattenburg is a complete spacer (which is possible too...)
Possibly a combination of options 1 and 2. An absolute shower of cnuts imo.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on October 30, 2012, 03:03:37 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 30, 2012, 02:54:00 PM
Quote from: AQMP on October 30, 2012, 01:14:01 PM
More detail on Clattenburgate coming out.  Apparently the Chelsea claims are that Clattenburg referred to Juan Mata as "a Spanish t**t" (though this was not heard by Mata himself but reported by another Chelsea player) and that he referred to Mikel as a "monkey".

Either the Chelsea players misheard, or Chelsea are up to no good, or Clattenburg is a complete spacer (which is possible too...)
Possibly a combination of options 1 and 2. An absolute shower of cnuts imo.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/oct/29/mark-clattenburg-referee-chelsea-allegations

Having read this, a combination of 1, 2 and 3 a distinct possibility!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on October 30, 2012, 10:42:58 PM
It has now emerged that Clattenberg has the full support of the other match officials. As they are the only people who would have been able to clearly heard what was said I can see this being thrown out. Chelsea are going to come out of this very badly me thinks.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 31, 2012, 12:02:40 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on October 30, 2012, 10:42:58 PM
It has now emerged that Clattenberg has the full support of the other match officials.

Did anyone expect otherwise?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 31, 2012, 02:13:27 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 31, 2012, 12:02:40 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on October 30, 2012, 10:42:58 PM
It has now emerged that Clattenberg has the full support of the other match officials.

Did anyone expect otherwise?

It's funny because the only person who could've heard what Terry said was Ashley Cole, who backed him up, and look how that ended!

Dunno what to make of this one. However Chelsea appear to have made a pigs ear of it on the surface. They shouldn't be making accusations within minutes of a game ending regardless of how bad they may perceive them, especially considering they are just exiting one storm.

They should've waited until things had calmed down the next day, talked to the players who may have heard something, looked at TV evidence, and if there was something merited and which could be substantiated made a complaint then.

If they've waded in with watery evidence and/ or something that isn't that big of a deal, someone should get booted in the balls.

However what sickens me about this as well is the contradiction in the media's approach to Clattenburg as opposed to Terry. Clattenburg's past is as questionable as Terry's with rumors of drug taking, gambling, match fixing etc. However Monday's papers led mentioned his charity work. I don't recall any paper wading in to mention Terry's charity work.

Another fine mess...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on October 31, 2012, 10:59:24 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 31, 2012, 12:02:40 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on October 30, 2012, 10:42:58 PM
It has now emerged that Clattenberg has the full support of the other match officials.

Did anyone expect otherwise?

No, but considering that they are the ONLY people that can clarify what happened it is still significant. I can see the FA clearing this one up quickly.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on October 31, 2012, 11:07:53 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 31, 2012, 02:13:27 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 31, 2012, 12:02:40 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on October 30, 2012, 10:42:58 PM
It has now emerged that Clattenberg has the full support of the other match officials.

Did anyone expect otherwise?

It's funny because the only person who could've heard what Terry said was Ashley Cole, who backed him up, and look how that ended!

Dunno what to make of this one. However Chelsea appear to have made a pigs ear of it on the surface. They shouldn't be making accusations within minutes of a game ending regardless of how bad they may perceive them, especially considering they are just exiting one storm.

They should've waited until things had calmed down the next day, talked to the players who may have heard something, looked at TV evidence, and if there was something merited and which could be substantiated made a complaint then.

If they've waded in with watery evidence and/ or something that isn't that big of a deal, someone should get booted in the balls.

However what sickens me about this as well is the contradiction in the media's approach to Clattenburg as opposed to Terry. Clattenburg's past is as questionable as Terry's with rumors of drug taking, gambling, match fixing etc. However Monday's papers led mentioned his charity work. I don't recall any paper wading in to mention Terry's charity work.

Another fine mess...

+1, as usual pretty much spot on Norf.  Chelsea can't really afford to make a balls of this, but I fear it's too late...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Main Street on October 31, 2012, 07:16:44 PM
Yeah sure, a press conspiracy is going to swing public and judicial opinion away from the real truth ::)

I would expect the assistants to tell it as it was. If the assistants back up the ref's account, then I would accept that as being close to the truth, much more than a player from a team who have spread lies and dirt in the past against top refs, had them chased out of the game, when their only crime was that they made some (questionable) decisions in the game which did not please Chelsea.



Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 31, 2012, 09:42:31 PM
Penalty in the 4th minute of injury time rescues the game for Chelsea and they should win it in extra time now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 31, 2012, 10:21:15 PM
Good game. Good game.

Can't believe United's two defenders stayed on the pitch. Wooton booked, and then trips Ramires, then brings Ramires down in the box, then has a tantrum at the ref. Yet no second booking.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: orangeman on November 01, 2012, 11:40:30 AM
Do Chelsea and their supporters just not get it ?

Chelsea have launched an investigation after a supporter was photographed making an apparent racist gesture towards a Manchester United player.

The picture, published in more than one national newspaper, seems to show a fan making a 'monkey' gesture towards a United player during last night's Capital One Cup clash between the two clubs at Stamford Bridge.

Police are also aware of the photograph but have not yet received a formal allegation on which to open a criminal investigation.

A statement from the club read: "Chelsea Football Club can confirm we are investigating an incident involving a member of the crowd at last night's game against Manchester United.

"The club will be examining all available footage and asks anyone who can identify the individual to contact the club.

"Chelsea FC is committed to removing all forms of discrimination and if we have sufficient evidence we will take the strongest possible action, including supporting criminal prosecution."

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 11:48:33 AM
Quote from: orangeman on November 01, 2012, 11:40:30 AM
Do Chelsea and their supporters just not get it ?

Chelsea have launched an investigation after a supporter was photographed making an apparent racist gesture towards a Manchester United player.

The picture, published in more than one national newspaper, seems to show a fan making a 'monkey' gesture towards a United player during last night's Capital One Cup clash between the two clubs at Stamford Bridge.

Police are also aware of the photograph but have not yet received a formal allegation on which to open a criminal investigation.

A statement from the club read: "Chelsea Football Club can confirm we are investigating an incident involving a member of the crowd at last night's game against Manchester United.

"The club will be examining all available footage and asks anyone who can identify the individual to contact the club.

"Chelsea FC is committed to removing all forms of discrimination and if we have sufficient evidence we will take the strongest possible action, including supporting criminal prosecution."

Supporters? Not sure why you are using plural.

You'll get arseholes like that in every crowd, and he should be banned for life. A simple idiot.

Hope Man United ban all the supporters last night that mock the dead, but I doubt we'll read too much about that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2012, 12:01:47 PM
Come on, admit it Norf. Your house is dripping in racist stuff and Combat18 memorabilia. No point denying it now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 01, 2012, 12:06:43 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 11:48:33 AM
Quote from: orangeman on November 01, 2012, 11:40:30 AM
Do Chelsea and their supporters just not get it ?

Chelsea have launched an investigation after a supporter was photographed making an apparent racist gesture towards a Manchester United player.

The picture, published in more than one national newspaper, seems to show a fan making a 'monkey' gesture towards a United player during last night's Capital One Cup clash between the two clubs at Stamford Bridge.

Police are also aware of the photograph but have not yet received a formal allegation on which to open a criminal investigation.

A statement from the club read: "Chelsea Football Club can confirm we are investigating an incident involving a member of the crowd at last night's game against Manchester United.

"The club will be examining all available footage and asks anyone who can identify the individual to contact the club.

"Chelsea FC is committed to removing all forms of discrimination and if we have sufficient evidence we will take the strongest possible action, including supporting criminal prosecution."

Supporters? Not sure why you are using plural.

You'll get arseholes like that in every crowd, and he should be banned for life. A simple idiot.

Hope Man United ban all the supporters last night that mock the dead, but I doubt we'll read too much about that.

I'd be more impressed if they banned players for life for using racist language.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: take_yer_points on November 01, 2012, 12:08:36 PM
Think this is the fella...

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/01/article-0-15C8CB55000005DC-893_634x534.jpg)

(http://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Monkey-gesture-Chelsea.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 01, 2012, 12:18:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 01, 2012, 12:01:47 PM
Come on, admit it Norf. Your house is dripping in racist stuff and Combat18 memorabilia. No point denying it now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2119806/Arsenal-fan-arrested-racist-abuse-Newcastle-midfielder-Cheick-Tiote.html

There are eejits that support every club.  No point denying it now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 01, 2012, 12:21:54 PM
If the images above are representative of Chelsea fans as a whole, I'd guess there are roughly the same amount of racists who support Chelsea as support most other clubs?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 12:49:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 01, 2012, 12:01:47 PM
Come on, admit it Norf. Your house is dripping in racist stuff and Combat18 memorabilia. No point denying it now.

My small, black moustache is simply an homage to Movember meine freund.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 12:50:33 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 01, 2012, 12:06:43 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 11:48:33 AM
Quote from: orangeman on November 01, 2012, 11:40:30 AM
Do Chelsea and their supporters just not get it ?

Chelsea have launched an investigation after a supporter was photographed making an apparent racist gesture towards a Manchester United player.

The picture, published in more than one national newspaper, seems to show a fan making a 'monkey' gesture towards a United player during last night's Capital One Cup clash between the two clubs at Stamford Bridge.

Police are also aware of the photograph but have not yet received a formal allegation on which to open a criminal investigation.

A statement from the club read: "Chelsea Football Club can confirm we are investigating an incident involving a member of the crowd at last night's game against Manchester United.

"The club will be examining all available footage and asks anyone who can identify the individual to contact the club.

"Chelsea FC is committed to removing all forms of discrimination and if we have sufficient evidence we will take the strongest possible action, including supporting criminal prosecution."

Supporters? Not sure why you are using plural.

You'll get arseholes like that in every crowd, and he should be banned for life. A simple idiot.

Hope Man United ban all the supporters last night that mock the dead, but I doubt we'll read too much about that.

I'd be more impressed if they banned players for life for using racist language.

When Arsenal starting banning players for anti- semitic language perhaps the world will follow suit.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 01, 2012, 01:33:57 PM
Chelsea play Leeds in the next round of whatever the League Cup is called this year.

Could be another spiky encounter.  Reminds me of this incident from the 1970 FA Cup Final replay.  Bear in mind, the ref didn't consider this a foul.

Was there contact?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t_5sZ4-LRA
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 01, 2012, 04:35:35 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 12:50:33 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 01, 2012, 12:06:43 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 11:48:33 AM
Quote from: orangeman on November 01, 2012, 11:40:30 AM
Do Chelsea and their supporters just not get it ?

Chelsea have launched an investigation after a supporter was photographed making an apparent racist gesture towards a Manchester United player.

The picture, published in more than one national newspaper, seems to show a fan making a 'monkey' gesture towards a United player during last night's Capital One Cup clash between the two clubs at Stamford Bridge.

Police are also aware of the photograph but have not yet received a formal allegation on which to open a criminal investigation.

A statement from the club read: "Chelsea Football Club can confirm we are investigating an incident involving a member of the crowd at last night's game against Manchester United.

"The club will be examining all available footage and asks anyone who can identify the individual to contact the club.

"Chelsea FC is committed to removing all forms of discrimination and if we have sufficient evidence we will take the strongest possible action, including supporting criminal prosecution."

Supporters? Not sure why you are using plural.

You'll get arseholes like that in every crowd, and he should be banned for life. A simple idiot.

Hope Man United ban all the supporters last night that mock the dead, but I doubt we'll read too much about that.

I'd be more impressed if they banned players for life for using racist language.

When Arsenal starting banning players for anti- semitic language perhaps the world will follow suit.

Whataboutery!

You're reaching, Frimpong who I assume you are referring to called someone a yid scum, Spurs fans call themselves The Yid Army, it's used as a tribal badge. Frimpong was found guilty of improper conduct and made aware of his social responsibilities and was educated on the term which Spurs welcomed. Spurs also educated Danny Rose on the term Yiddo's which Rose used referring to his own fans. Don't mistaken ignorance for antisemitism.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 04:51:56 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 01, 2012, 04:35:35 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 12:50:33 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 01, 2012, 12:06:43 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 11:48:33 AM
Quote from: orangeman on November 01, 2012, 11:40:30 AM
Do Chelsea and their supporters just not get it ?

Chelsea have launched an investigation after a supporter was photographed making an apparent racist gesture towards a Manchester United player.

The picture, published in more than one national newspaper, seems to show a fan making a 'monkey' gesture towards a United player during last night's Capital One Cup clash between the two clubs at Stamford Bridge.

Police are also aware of the photograph but have not yet received a formal allegation on which to open a criminal investigation.

A statement from the club read: "Chelsea Football Club can confirm we are investigating an incident involving a member of the crowd at last night's game against Manchester United.

"The club will be examining all available footage and asks anyone who can identify the individual to contact the club.

"Chelsea FC is committed to removing all forms of discrimination and if we have sufficient evidence we will take the strongest possible action, including supporting criminal prosecution."

Supporters? Not sure why you are using plural.

You'll get arseholes like that in every crowd, and he should be banned for life. A simple idiot.

Hope Man United ban all the supporters last night that mock the dead, but I doubt we'll read too much about that.

I'd be more impressed if they banned players for life for using racist language.

When Arsenal starting banning players for anti- semitic language perhaps the world will follow suit.

Whataboutery!

You're reaching, Frimpong who I assume you are referring to called someone a yid scum, Spurs fans call themselves The Yid Army, it's used as a tribal badge. Frimpong was found guilty of improper conduct and made aware of his social responsibilities and was educated on the term which Spurs welcomed. Spurs also educated Danny Rose on the term Yiddo's which Rose used referring to his own fans. Don't mistaken ignorance for antisemitism.

Fair points, and I knew at the time he was 'thick'. However if John Terry or Ashley Cole, or David Luiz had've tweeted that, would the world have been forgiving?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 05:06:39 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/michael-volpe/chelsea-mark-clattenburg_b_2043928.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/michael-volpe/chelsea-mark-clattenburg_b_2043928.html)

Sums up the Clattenburg thing rightly.

Billy Connolly once said that hypocrisy is the Vaseline of political intercourse. Well, the politicians of football and their media agitators are about to launch themselves into an orgy.

If many of us found the taste of hypocrisy and the destruction of natural justice in the John
Terry case rancid and grotesque, then we are about to endure being force fed a great deal more of it in the coming weeks and months as the ramifications of the Mark Clattenburg race row develop. Indeed, it is happening already.

What do we know of the events? We know that Clattenburg had a dreadful match for sure but it pales into insignificance when set against the alleged abuse of two Chelsea players. Chelsea officials are said to have challenged John Obi Mikel for two hours, urging him to be certain about what happened before proceeding with a formal complaint. Several players are said to support him. Clattenburg denies it and so we must now wait for the investigations.

Suddenly, the FA, so brazen in their determination to skewer due process in the Terry case, have a real problem. And the media, who were so eager to promote the concept of Terry's innate racism, even after he was found not guilty in a court of law, are beset by a real sense of hysteria, the awful truth of what is happening beginning to dawn on them. Already we have seen several articles raising question marks over Chelsea's complaint, the suggestion being it is malicious. James Lawton called the club "bitterly aggrieved", Matthew Syed of the Times raised the question of the complaint's veracity twice in one article and in the same newspaper, Oliver Holt, a cheerleader for the pursuit of Terry at all costs has the shameless temerity to angrily evoke the concept of innocence until proven guilty and about mud sticking. The Evening Standard ran a piece in which Neil Warnock called the club "despicable" and demanded the complainants "get done".

That it is John Obi Mikel who is at the centre of the complaint appears not to have struck any of the correspondents as ironic. Maybe it has but the awful, inconvenient irony of it has struck them dumb instead. It is imperative that they keep the idea of a malicious complaint alive but this is Mikel, the same Mikel who many in the media were so eager to point out (spitefully and erroneously) was unprepared to support John Terry, nudge, nudge, wink, wink. Would a man who, it is claimed, had reason to distance himself from Terry launch a profoundly serious complaint in order to effect "revenge" on his behalf?

It does not appear to occur to those commentators who are currently desperately seeking a foothold in the matter that their suggestions of malice and mischief are deeply insulting to a player not known for his controversies, hotheadedness or emotionality. Does he not deserve to be given the sort of unending sympathy and respect that Anton Ferdinand was afforded? Does he not deserve to have his complaint considered genuine? Why should it have already become Clattenburg, the FA and half the world versus Chelsea Football Club? And what if the other complainant, Juan Mata? Here is a player who has spoken about moving on from the Terry affair, a calm, pleasant footballer; moreover, both he and Mikel have the intelligence to understand the implications of what their complaints have unleashed.

There is, also, a curiosity about what the recent campaigners Jason Roberts and Rio Ferdinand have to say on the matter. Rio was busy trolling on Twitter on Sunday night, trying to wind up Chelsea fans in a schoolboy fashion. He wasn't concerned that two of his fellow professionals were feeling deeply aggrieved at being abused, one of them a black player who was so incensed he exploded with fury at the referee after the game. It was never going to take long to put Ferdinand's credentials to the test but one really couldn't have imagined that his already wafer thin credibility would be so quickly smashed to pieces. One expects he will keep his mouth shut henceforth and allow due process (should the FA permit it) to be exercised.

For the rest of us I offer guide to how to behave hereon;

Consider the complaint to be a genuine one.
Understand that Chelsea, of all clubs, is aware of its implications
Accept that nevertheless, Chelsea had no choice whatsoever but to support its players
That Clattenburg is innocent until proven guilty

What we eventually make of the processes used to arrive at Clattenburg's guilt or innocence is another matter.

For myself, I have no idea what Clattenburg did or did not say. I have sympathy for him should it all be a misunderstanding. Equally, I will find any campaign by the media to rubbish Mikel and Mata and their complaint to be abhorrent. Any character assassination of Clattenburg will be equally condemned as will (the more likely) attempts to paint pretty pictures of him. If he is found not guilty we must accept it, there must be no hints and suggestions that "we know what he is like, he did it". Should no clear evidence be found to condemn him, we must not point at Mikel's obvious fury at what he feels was said to him and say "no smoke without fire". If members of Mikel's family should step to the fore and have the light of self-interest shone upon them so that we see their faux-indignation and upset, we must remind them of Clattenburg's innocence and send them packing back to their furious little worlds of bitterness and vengeful spite.

It pains me to say that a bit of me will likely enjoy the unfathomable awkwardness that the whole case represents for the FA and the football press. I will, I am sorry to say, enjoy seeing how they manage to reconcile their recent history with their growing realisation that fate has dealt them a cruel, almost perfect and mouth-wateringly delicious blow.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2012, 05:31:55 PM
The thing about it Norf is the complaint.

Mikel himself says he heard nothing but was told about it by Ramires who needs an interpreter but seems to have been able to understand the ref's thick Geordie accent. I know equal consideration should be given to the Terry case and this but it just appears, to the neutral, to be highly, highly unlikely.

Is it true that the Mata case has now been dropped?

Apologies if any of the above is incorrect.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 05:37:59 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 01, 2012, 05:31:55 PM
The thing about it Norf is the complaint.

Mikel himself says he heard nothing but was told about it by Ramires who needs an interpreter but seems to have been able to understand the ref's thick Geordie accent. I know equal consideration should be given to the Terry case and this but it just appears, to the neutral, to be highly, highly unlikely.

Is it true that the Mata case has now been dropped?

Apologies if any of the above is incorrect.

You're lucky you apologised!

Yip, the Mata case has been dropped.

The Mikel case goes ahead, and I believe he is pushing it himself with support from 1/2 other players. However that's only what I read. The papers will have umpteen versions despite the fact that Chelsea are saying nothing.

Personally I wish that the Club weren't pushing this. However if Mikel is adament then what choice have they. I am waiting for Jason Roberts, Stan Collymore, Rio Ferdinand, Clarke Carlilse and co to shout their support soon. Any second now. Just one more minute. Wait for it. Wait for it....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2012, 05:45:38 PM
But you understand why they aren't. They probably feel the same way as most do - that this appears to be either a misunderstanding or mischievousness on someone's part. Again, I know equal consideration should be given to any accusations of racism. The other player is supposedly Luiz I believe.

No matter what happens, I do think the ref's career has changed irrevocably. I know refs get serious abuse anyway but this is going to stick.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 01, 2012, 05:54:24 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 05:06:39 PM
Suddenly, the FA, so brazen in their determination to skewer due process in the Terry case, have a real problem.

Talk about a non-sequitur. How could the FA have handled the Terry case differently so that the Clattenburg/Mikel case would not present a real problem?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 06:37:09 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 01, 2012, 05:45:38 PM
But you understand why they aren't. They probably feel the same way as most do - that this appears to be either a misunderstanding or mischievousness on someone's part. Again, I know equal consideration should be given to any accusations of racism. The other player is supposedly Luiz I believe.

No matter what happens, I do think the ref's career has changed irrevocably. I know refs get serious abuse anyway but this is going to stick.

I understand that. However people are saying that this is a misunderstanding or mischievousness because it's against Chelsea. If it had've been another team, then followers of that team would've backed that team's stance. It's not because they are giving him the benefit of the doubt. Terry was hung and drawn that evening of the QPR game. The masses waded in, and didn't stand back to consider a second opinion.

Consider if the roles were reversed and Anton had accused Terry of calling him 'monkey' or whatever it was, with no visual evidence. Would people have said that it is mischievousness or a misunderstanding? Not a hope. They'd have called for his head. They would've said "sure it's Terry, he must of done it".

The reason for this is that Terry's personality has, rightly or wrongly, been the subject of media assasination over the years. Some truth, some lies, some half truths.

If you read between the lines, Clattenburg's private life is probably much more controversial than Terry's has been. However the tribal rights of supporters means that people always pick sides. If it's Terry he's automatically guilty. If it's against Chelsea, they must be making it up.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 06:57:19 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 01, 2012, 05:54:24 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 05:06:39 PM
Suddenly, the FA, so brazen in their determination to skewer due process in the Terry case, have a real problem.

Talk about a non-sequitur. How could the FA have handled the Terry case differently so that the Clattenburg/Mikel case would not present a real problem?

I'd say that it's because their rules stated that they couldn't try Terry as he has been found not guilty in court UNLESS new evidence presented itself.

However they circumnavigated this by producing evidence that was tenuous in the extreme. In other words, we know you did it, and we'll get you no matter what.

In addition the offence happened in 2011 but Terry was tried under 2012/2013 rules and regs that the FA had rehashed.

If the FA had of found Terry not guilty, or announced that they couldn't charge him, how do you think they would looked in thie eyes of the public and the football world? Their captain getting off on a technicality would've been a disaster for them.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 01, 2012, 07:07:13 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 06:57:19 PM
If the FA had of found Terry not guilty, or announced that they couldn't charge him, how do you think they would looked in thie eyes of the public and the football world? Their captain getting off on a technicality would've been a disaster for them.

Yes, it would have been. So how do you think they should handled it?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 07:10:03 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 01, 2012, 07:07:13 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 06:57:19 PM
If the FA had of found Terry not guilty, or announced that they couldn't charge him, how do you think they would looked in thie eyes of the public and the football world? Their captain getting off on a technicality would've been a disaster for them.

Yes, it would have been. So how do you think they should handled it?

They should've applied their own rules.

Rule 6.8 states "results of criminal proceedings are presumed to be correct and the facts presumed to be true by FA commissions".
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 01, 2012, 07:14:29 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2012, 07:10:03 PM
They should've applied their own rules.

Rule 6.8 states "results of criminal proceedings are presumed to be correct and the facts presumed to be true by FA commissions".

That I did not know. Fair enough.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ziggy90 on November 01, 2012, 07:20:31 PM
Quote from: AQMP on November 01, 2012, 01:33:57 PM
Chelsea play Leeds in the next round of whatever the League Cup is called this year.

Could be another spiky encounter.  Reminds me of this incident from the 1970 FA Cup Final replay.  Bear in mind, the ref didn't consider this a foul.

Was there contact?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t_5sZ4-LRA

I remember the incident and the match very well. Eddie McCreadie wouldn't have been known as a "hard man " of the game compared say to the likes of Ron "chopper" Harris or Norman "bites yer legs" Hunter. Imagine if someone did that now? They'd probably get a life ban.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 02, 2012, 10:28:12 AM
I think this is an example of what Norf is referring to:

This is Arsene Wenger quoted in the Guardian:

"My opinion is just that I prefer, when I didn't behave well, that I have an explanation with the referee at the end of the game or on another day, [rather] than going public with little proof," (1) Wenger said. "I'm not a great believer in making these stories public." (2)

Two points here.  1) It's good to know that Arsene has carried out a through review of all the evidence having questioned Mikel, Clattenburg and other players and officials and has decided there is "little proof".  Pretty impressive for a man known to be unable to see incidents involving Arsenal players that happen in front of him.

2)  He seems to suggest that allegations of this nature should be sorted out behind closed doors or swept under the carpet.  Wasn't Blatter absolutely torn apart by the media for suggesting the same thing?

Now I've posted elsewhere that my reading of this incident is that in the heat of the moment in a fairly tense, feisty game a couple of players whose first language is not English (or Geordie) misheard whatever Clattenburg said.  It's also my understanding that Chelsea as a club were initially reluctant to pursue this issue but it is being driven by the players involved who are adamant they heard what they heard and Chelsea officials feel they have to back them.  I also am led to understand that Mikel was questioned by Chelsea officials and legal advisors for two hours, so the reports that Mikel didn't hear anything are probably not accurate.

But the point is it is very clear that the media as a group decided very quickly that the story was that this didn't happen, and that Chelsea are up to no good, so most reports reflect that postion.  I would think that had Wenger made similar comments to those above in relation to the Terry/Ferdinand incident, the Guardian for one, would be hammering him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 02, 2012, 10:47:25 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/02/sir-alex-ferguson-mark-clattenburg-innocent

Do some people with a history of respect for referees not realise there is a police investigation on going?

"Sir Alex Ferguson is "convinced" that the referee Mark Clattenburg is innocent of the racial slurs Chelsea allege were aimed at Mikel John Obi during Manchester United's 3-2 win at Stamford Bridge last Sunday.

United's manager said: "I don't believe Mark Clattenburg would make any comments like that. I refuse to believe it. I think it is unthinkable in the modern climate. I just don't believe it – simple as that. There is no way a referee would stoop to that, I am convinced of that."

Cue a few dodgy added time pens for Utd in the future! ;)

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on November 02, 2012, 02:06:51 PM
Seriously lads. This referee has had to climb a very difficult ladder to get to this level. He was a referee in the leagues at the age of 25.  It is VERY difficult to get to this level. It takes dedication and brains. Do you really think he would be stupid enough to use the word "monkey" to a black player? Seriously?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 02, 2012, 03:08:41 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 02, 2012, 02:06:51 PM
Seriously lads. This referee has had to climb a very difficult ladder to get to this level. He was a referee in the leagues at the age of 25.  It is VERY difficult to get to this level. It takes dedication and brains. Do you really think he would be stupid enough to use the word "monkey" to a black player? Seriously?

I'm not sure how much brains Clattenburg has given his "colourful" past.  See my post this morning for my "explanation" of what may have happened. 

My point is that the media, for whatever reason (Chelsea hatred?) has decided early on that Clattenburg didn't say anything untoward and that this is Chelsea up to no good and that message has, not so subtly, been the major headline since Sunday night.  I haven't seen any "PFA Refuse to Back Black Players in Racism Row" headlines since then, though that is an interesting angle.  You can rest assured that would have been the story with a slightly different headline had Chelsea not made a complaint.

Interesting too that it is normally in the coverage that neither Mikel nor Mata heard the alleged comments directed at them (with "therefore they didn't happen" being the subtle subtext).  Neither did Anton Ferdinand...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: stew on November 02, 2012, 03:34:35 PM
Quote from: AQMP on November 02, 2012, 03:08:41 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 02, 2012, 02:06:51 PM
Seriously lads. This referee has had to climb a very difficult ladder to get to this level. He was a referee in the leagues at the age of 25.  It is VERY difficult to get to this level. It takes dedication and brains. Do you really think he would be stupid enough to use the word "monkey" to a black player? Seriously?

I'm not sure how much brains Clattenburg has given his "colourful" past.  See my post this morning for my "explanation" of what may have happened. 

My point is that the media, for whatever reason (Chelsea hatred?) has decided early on that Clattenburg didn't say anything untoward and that this is Chelsea up to no good and that message has, not so subtly, been the major headline since Sunday night.  I haven't seen any "PFA Refuse to Back Black Players in Racism Row" headlines since then, though that is an interesting angle.  You can rest assured that would have been the story with a slightly different headline had Chelsea not made a complaint.

Interesting too that it is normally in the coverage that neither Mikel nor Mata heard the alleged comments directed at them (with "therefore they didn't happen" being the subtle subtext).  Neither did Anton Ferdinand...

I think one of the main points is being missed here and that is this, Chelsea will never again have a game were Clattenberg is a part of the officiating crew, if he is found to have no case to answer he will still never ref when they are playing, that, to me, sets a very dangerous precedent and I for one hope that this scenario I mentioned does not become fact.

I agree with EC, I think the man has enough brains not to call a player a monkey but regardless we seem to be heading down a road where there are separate unions, and if Clattenberg is exonerated I think we will be a step closer to a black players union as they will feel they are not being taken seriously, i hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 03, 2012, 11:31:56 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 02, 2012, 02:06:51 PM
Seriously lads. This referee has had to climb a very difficult ladder to get to this level. He was a referee in the leagues at the age of 25.  It is VERY difficult to get to this level. It takes dedication and brains. Do you really think he would be stupid enough to use the word "monkey" to a black player? Seriously?

Can referees not be mentally unhinged as well? http://www.scotzine.com/2012/01/former-english-referee-jeff-winter-launches-sectarian-attack-on-celtic/ (http://www.scotzine.com/2012/01/former-english-referee-jeff-winter-launches-sectarian-attack-on-celtic/)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 03, 2012, 11:34:45 PM
Why Chelsea had to report Clattenburg. Essentially they had no choice after the allegation was flagged to them as per rule E34.

Still waiting for Clarke Carlisle, Stan Collymore, Rio Ferdinand, Jason Roberts etc to come out in support of Mikel. 6 days on.






Chelsea are well aware that should the FA and police investigations show that Mark Clattenburg did not racially abuse John Obi Mikel in last Sunday's match against Manchester United, the club would face an enormous backlash. Referees are already threatening to boycott the club as a result of the allegation.

However, the club felt that they had to make the complaint because otherwise they would have faced the even more explosive charge of trying to cover up alleged racial abuse. More so as Mikel, who was allegedly called a monkey, and Ramires, who also claims to have heard it, felt very strongly on this issue.

Talking to a highly placed source within the club it is now possible to reveal what led Chelsea to take the unprecedented step of accusing a referee of behaving in a racist manner. At the conclusion of Sunday's match the Chelsea hierarchy, despite the defeat, felt the club had secured the moral high ground.

In their view Clattenburg had made two major errors in sending off Fernando Torres and then allowing Javier Hernandez's offside winner to decide the outcome. There were some post-match suggestions that the club had engineered these complaints against Clattenburg in retaliation but, in fact, Chelsea were not looking for any such confrontation.

However, this changed when it emerged that several players were furious about what they deemed to be insulting language used by Clattenburg, not only towards Mikel but also towards Juan Mata, who allegedly was labelled a "Spanish twat".

Bruce Buck, the Chelsea chairman and a lawyer, who was in the directors' dining room, was told about the incidents. He came to the dressing room to talk to the players. It was clear Mikel and Ramires, both of whom claimed they heard Clattenburg call Mikel a monkey, were very upset. Mikel had tried to go into Clattenburg's room after the match to discuss the issue but failed.

As allowed under the rules, half an hour after the match the Chelsea manager, Roberto Di Matteo, did go and see Clattenburg but did not raise these issues. The discussion centred around why Clattenburg had made a potential game-changing decision to send off Torres and, particularly, how sure he was that the striker had dived and therefore deserved a second yellow. Television replays have since shown that Torres was fouled.

Chelsea were only able to talk to the Premier League match delegate about the Mikel and Mata incidents an hour and a half after the match. The delegate explained that the appropriate procedure was for him to inform his superior, who would then inform the FA.

By then Chelsea had carefully weighed up their options. As they saw it, they had a duty of care to their players. They also had to take into consideration FA rule E 14, which basically says a participant, meaning club, shall immediately report to the association any incident or matter which may be considered to be misconduct. Misconduct is a defined term under the FA regulations and includes such alleged racial behaviour.

Chelsea also had to consider the Equality Act 2010, which imposes an obligation on an employer to act if an employee believes he or she has been subjected to discrimination by third parties, such as a customer. In this case Clattenburg would be judged to be a third party.

The club also weighed up possible press and public reactions should it emerge that two black players had lodged accusations of being racially abused but Chelsea had done nothing about it. The club's fear, having gone through the John Terry affair, was that they would then be accused of a cover-up of alleged racial abuse of their own players.

It was this that led to Sunday's statement about the two incidents alleged by Mikel and Mata.

There has been much criticism of how Chelsea worded their statement but, according to the source, the club felt they had to say something. Several reporters had got wind of an incident involving Mikel and the Chelsea press office were getting calls. In retrospect, the club accept that the statement could have been worded more guardedly and referred in more general terms to possible incidents, but here again Chelsea were wary of being accused of a cover-up.

Things moved up a gear when, following the match delegate's report, the FA asked Chelsea whether they were going to make a formal complaint. External lawyers were called in, witness statements taken from players and it was decided there was not enough evidence to proceed with the allegation regarding Mata. The player himself had not heard it; a team-mate claimed he had. But Mikel was adamant that he had been called a monkey and Ramires was doubly certain. Ramires is believed to have made the point that as a black Brazilian playing in Portugal he was often called monkey and would recognise the word in any language. I understand he was not prepared to back down on this. Chelsea decided the Mikel allegation had to be proceeded with.

Chelsea reject accusations that they were driven by player power. Rather, they argue that they were motivated by a desire to be good employers. Chelsea also remain sceptical of the public interventions by Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsène Wenger, both of whom criticised them last week.

Unlike the John Terry case, where there was video evidence of what was said, this case will probably hinge on whose word is believed. Clattenburg is believed to be backed by his officials, all of whom are miked up. But even here there may be room for doubt, as some referees have put their hand over their mike when talking to players to avoid words being overheard or lip-read on camera. Chelsea may use this as part of their case when the FA hearing is held.

It is understood that in any investigation Clattenburg will deny the accusations made against him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 05, 2012, 08:21:56 AM


At the end of the tunnel at Stamford Bridge is a door adorned with the sign "Officials changing". Beyond that door is a corridor, off which are the referee's changing room, a room for doping control and another in which radio interviews are conducted.

It is through the "Officials changing" door that Chelsea chief executive Ron Gourlay walked in the aftermath of the game against Manchester United eight days ago but not, Chelsea will submit, into the referee's private room.

Having originally visited the home dressing room, where he was made aware of the storm that was brewing, Gourlay went down to the "Officials changing" corridor and asked the Chelsea players and staff, who had by then left the referee's room occupied by Mark Clattenburg, to return to their dressing room. But the hare was already running.

The tunnel area at Stamford Bridge is surprisingly cramped. To the right is the press room where, if I delay going up the steps to the press box for kick-off, I can hear the buzzer to call the teams into the tunnel and that evocative sound of studs on a hard floor. Post-match, radio and television reporters are invited beyond the door from the press room into the tunnel and they would have seen John Obi Mikel come down from the home dressing room to confront Clattenburg.

By the time Gourlay was there, part of the Mikel-Clattenburg story was out. Even before Chelsea's explosive statement was released in the hours after the game, club officials were being asked by journalists about a row involving the referee and the whisper of a racial element was in the air.

As the events of an extraordinary week have unfolded, the question of what Chelsea and Gourlay should have done keeps being posed. Increasingly, it seems obvious to me that, however painful the fallout, he and the club had no choice but to follow procedure and make the complaint about Clattenburg.

Arsène Wenger said on Thursday that Chelsea would have been better served trying "to sort it out in the room", that he was a "deep supporter of doing that [solving disputes] internally". Wenger made a joke about the process only serving to make lawyers richer and preached "tolerance, fairness and explanation internally".

Sir Alex Ferguson said on Friday that he simply did not believe Clattenburg would have made a racist remark, so one can only suppose that had it been a black United player who had made the complaint, his manager would also have dismissed it. In 2008, United stood by the testimony of Mike Phelan and goalkeeping coach Richard Hartis, who alleged that a Chelsea groundsman racially abused Patrice Evra. The claim was dismissed by an independent commission.

Have I missed a reversal in the nation's mood? This time last week we were fearful that English football was teetering on the brink of a racial divide. The Professional Footballers' Association was hastily drawing up a plan to assuage the concerns of black players. There was a fear that our game had a genuine problem. Now there is outrage at a black man making an allegation of racism.

Place yourself in Chelsea's position. John Terry, their captain, has recently been found guilty of an FA race charge in arguably the highest-profile football disciplinary case of modern times. Ashley Cole and club secretary David Barnard have been heavily criticised for their conduct in the commission report. The club have spent the last few weeks reaffirming their commitment to anti-racism. Then a black player of theirs alleges racism.

And people are suggesting they should choose to ignore it?

Had they tried to deal with it "internally" (Wenger's advice) or just dismissed it (Ferguson's advice) it is inconceivable that, knowing what we do about the speed with which the news got out last Sunday, the nature of Mikel's complaint would have remained private. And when it did, along with Chelsea's refusal to act on the word of a black player, the whole episode would have looked like a monumental cover-up.

Had that taken place, there would have been calls for resignations at the top of the club's hierarchy, and rightly so.

Did Chelsea act too quickly in making two separate complaints against Clattenburg to the match delegate Nick Cusack, one of which, relating to Juan Mata, has already been withdrawn? Possibly they would have been better served being less specific. However, the regulations are quite clear on this point.

The FA rule book, page 123, Rule 14 states: "A participant shall immediately report to the association any incident, facts or matter which may constitute misconduct."

It has also been suggested that Chelsea's actions were somehow revenge for Terry's racism charge. Surely the dumbest argument yet. Given the events of the last 12 months, this is a club that wanted as little as possible to do with a race controversy. There are those at Chelsea who think Terry got exactly what was coming to him. Revenge on his behalf is the last thing on their mind.

Speaking to those who know Clattenburg, the response I have got to the question of whether he was the sort of man to make racial remarks has been along the lines of "never in a million years". If Ramires is the key witness then you have to wonder how certain he is of what was said. There are plenty of reasons to doubt Chelsea.

Which is exactly why there is a disciplinary process in place to deal with these issues. Should the FA press charges, the commission will, as in past cases, attempt painstakingly to recreate the events of 28 October and make a judgement on that basis.

When it comes to the events of that Sunday it is not up to what I think, or you think, or Ferguson thinks, or Wenger thinks. It comes down to a forensic examination of the evidence. If a few lawyers get even richer off the back of it, then we will just have to accept that unfortunate consequence.

Whatever your position on the Suarez-Evra affair, or the Terry-Ferdinand saga, both were subject to scrupulous legal process. Neither report was perfect. What is? Some people have, in both cases, disagreed with the findings. Some, including Kenny Dalglish, have argued that the civil burden of proof in commission hearings is too low. But at the end of both episodes all parties signed up to the findings and we moved on.

That is what will happen in the Clattenburg affair. Ferguson said that even if the referee is acquitted – or no charges are brought – he will be tainted for ever. I disagree strongly. And Ferguson placing that seed in the mind of the public will certainly not help matters.

Should he be proved innocent that is exactly what Clattenburg will be: innocent of racism. There will always be the occasional thicko who bears a grudge but the vast majority of football fans have a strong sense of fairness. He may even end up – shock, horror – quite popular.

It must be difficult and unpleasant for Clattenburg at present but, convinced of his innocence, he should trust in the process. Mikel's allegation was far too serious and complex to be hushed up – both morally or practically. As for Chelsea, they could doubtless do without all this, especially the consequences of the case being found against their player. The alternative, however, was unthinkable.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on November 05, 2012, 03:53:07 PM
Heard a rumour today that Clattenburg is believed to have told Mikel he "couldn't give a monkeys" as a response to Mikel complaining about the decisions etc.

Have watched the incident a few times, Mikel didn't react at all when the said incident was supposed to take place. Bizarre the way the story has changed a few times from the Chelsea camp.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Gazzler on November 05, 2012, 04:55:36 PM
(http://i2.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article1412752.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Gavin+Kirkham)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AZOffaly on November 05, 2012, 05:06:34 PM
Bubble is right.*


Bubble is a Limerick insult.



Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 05, 2012, 05:49:04 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 05, 2012, 05:06:34 PM
Bubble is right.*


Bubble is a Limerick insult.

Ah, I see.

Looks like the police have got this guy...unless they've arrested a 28 year old Chelsea player (which is possible)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Jonah on November 05, 2012, 05:55:04 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on November 05, 2012, 04:55:36 PM
(http://i2.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article1412752.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Gavin+Kirkham)

What's this about? Is it only recent?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 07, 2012, 10:01:27 PM
Do yourselves a favour. Try and get to see the 90 mins or at least the highlights of Chelsea v Shaktar.

Some seriously good football played by both sides. That Shaktar are very, very impressive (Bar their keeper)!

And I would've posted this W, L or D!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Main Street on November 07, 2012, 10:35:43 PM
I thought that keeper was the spitting image of Jens Lehmann.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 07, 2012, 10:50:25 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 07, 2012, 10:35:43 PM
I thought that keeper was the spitting image of Jens Lehmann.

Thought that myself. He was as dodgey as him too.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Billys Boots on November 08, 2012, 09:54:27 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 07, 2012, 10:01:27 PM
Do yourselves a favour. Try and get to see the 90 mins or at least the highlights of Chelsea v Shaktar.

Some seriously good football played by both sides. That Shaktar are very, very impressive (Bar their keeper)!

And I would've posted this W, L or D!

That was an excellent game - what the Champions League should be about.  Shaktar were unlucky to leave without a point in fairness to them. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 08, 2012, 11:05:42 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on November 08, 2012, 09:54:27 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 07, 2012, 10:01:27 PM
Do yourselves a favour. Try and get to see the 90 mins or at least the highlights of Chelsea v Shaktar.

Some seriously good football played by both sides. That Shaktar are very, very impressive (Bar their keeper)!

And I would've posted this W, L or D!

That was an excellent game - what the Champions League should be about.  Shaktar were unlucky to leave without a point in fairness to them.


They were unlucky to leave without 3 points. Their keeper, and they ran out of steam with 20 mins to go cost them.

Saying that Chelsea could've had a penalty.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Billys Boots on November 08, 2012, 11:43:30 AM
Yeah, even though it was a hospital-pass for the first goal the keeper should have done better.  And even though headed clearances are not really a required part of his game (and his midfielders should have done better) it was a poor enough headed clearance too.  Other than that I thought he wasn't a bad keeper - those two incidents did hurt his confidence around the box too I suppose. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on November 13, 2012, 09:05:09 PM
Police have said that they are no longer investigating a case against Clattenburg due to lack of evidence. I would expect the FA to follow suit. Messy one for Chelsea. Had to put in a complaint as the players pushed it but now it seems Clattenberg is the victim.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 14, 2012, 08:54:29 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 13, 2012, 09:05:09 PM
Police have said that they are no longer investigating a case against Clattenburg due to lack of evidence. I would expect the FA to follow suit. Messy one for Chelsea. Had to put in a complaint as the players pushed it but now it seems Clattenberg is the victim.

I see Peter Herbert of the Association of Black Lawyers who made the complaint to the police is now criticising Chelsea for failing to provide evidence to the police.  The club really can't win on this one. ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 20, 2012, 09:38:03 PM
Chelsea to become the first Champions League winners not to get past the group stage in the defence of their title?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 20, 2012, 11:30:02 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 20, 2012, 09:38:03 PM
Chelsea to become the first Champions League winners not to get past the group stage in the defence of their title?

Still a chance. Win the last game, and Shaktar win, because you can rely on the integrity of both teams to go for the result and not settle for the draw that takes both threw..... just remembered it's Juventus. Forget about the integrity bit!

On a serious note, Shaktar are a fine side, and if they go for the win, I think they can take the points. However I was impressed by Juventus tonight too. Strong and organised.

I reckon Shaktar to win, Chelsea to win, and advance. Beat Barce in the last 16, Dortmund in the QF, Real in the semi, and get revenge over Shaktar in the final at Wembley with Torres not scoring in all 8 games.

It's written in the stars.....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: cornerback on November 21, 2012, 09:14:28 AM
Di Matteo is gone!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 21, 2012, 09:15:37 AM
Either the Chelsea website has been hacked or Di Matteo is gone (http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/2986865/title/statement-on-roberto-di-matteo).

QuoteSTATEMENT ON ROBERTO DI MATTEO

Posted on: Wed 21 Nov 2012
Chelsea Football Club has parted company this morning with Manager Roberto Di Matteo.

The team's recent performances and results have not been good enough and the owner and the Board felt that a change was necessary now to keep the club moving in the right direction as we head into a vitally important part of the season.

The club faces a difficult task ahead in qualifying for the knockout stages of the UEFA Champions League as well as maintaining a strong challenge for the top of the Premier League while competing in three other cup competitions. Our aim is to remain as competitive as possible and challenge strongly on all fronts.

The owner and the Board would like to thank Roberto for all he has done for the club since taking over in March. Roberto helped guide us to an historic Champions League victory and a seventh FA Cup. We will never forget the huge contribution he has made to this club's history and he will always be welcome at Stamford Bridge.

The club will be making an announcement shortly regarding a new first team manager.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on November 21, 2012, 09:20:00 AM
What a farce of a club.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 21, 2012, 09:21:27 AM
It's the story of Chelsea over the past two or three seasons, a good start, then the wheels come off in November, change the manager in Feb edit: November and finish well!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 21, 2012, 09:23:08 AM
The talk is Benitez to take temporary charge...then Guardiola will be sacked this time next year ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 21, 2012, 09:27:42 AM
Di Matteo was never gonna last at Chelsea. Roman had no choice but to appoint him after the champions league final. Sure look how long it took him to appoint him after the final whenever it was clear Guardiola was definitely taking his break from management.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 21, 2012, 09:29:39 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 21, 2012, 09:23:08 AM
The talk is Benitez to take temporary charge...then Guardiola will be sacked this time next year ::)

Heard that. Why would Guardiola want to go near the joke that is Abramovich FC. Treated Di Matteo like dirt. The man has no class or appreciation for the game!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on November 21, 2012, 09:31:33 AM
Pep wont touch Chelsea with a 40 foot pole with that madman still in control,it'll be Rafa.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 21, 2012, 09:32:36 AM
Abramovich treats Chelsea like his personal plaything. And having spent the money he has on it, he's entitled to do that. Did someone mention Faust?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 21, 2012, 09:35:22 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 21, 2012, 09:31:33 AM
Pep wont touch Chelsea with a 40 foot pole with that madman still in control,it'll be Rafa.

I can't see that Guardiola has anything to gain coming to Chelsea.  Rafa f**king Benitez eh ::)  Eddie McCreadie would be my choice.  All he asked for was a car!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 21, 2012, 09:36:06 AM
Quote from: deiseach on November 21, 2012, 09:32:36 AM
Abramovich treats Chelsea like his personal plaything. And having spent the money he has on it, he's entitled to do that. Did someone mention Faust?

Is he a striker??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on November 21, 2012, 09:37:34 AM
Thought this was a joke!

Rafa back in the PL is a joke.  ;D

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 21, 2012, 09:47:41 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 21, 2012, 09:36:06 AM
Quote from: deiseach on November 21, 2012, 09:32:36 AM
Abramovich treats Chelsea like his personal plaything. And having spent the money he has on it, he's entitled to do that. Did someone mention Faust?

Is he a striker??

If he is, don't tell Fernando Torres. He might get ideas about how to get a goal . . .
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Bingo on November 21, 2012, 09:52:01 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 21, 2012, 09:37:34 AM
Thought this was a joke!

Rafa back in the PL is a joke.  ;D

This amazes me at times. You will have managers like Hughes,  Redknapp, O'Neill who seem to walk in and out of jobs, get linked with every job available and the fans will get excited at the prospect of them.

Then Rafa gets linked and there is outcry and its a big joke. Alot of these clubs would be far better off with him in charge.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 21, 2012, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: deiseach on November 21, 2012, 09:47:41 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 21, 2012, 09:36:06 AM
Quote from: deiseach on November 21, 2012, 09:32:36 AM
Abramovich treats Chelsea like his personal plaything. And having spent the money he has on it, he's entitled to do that. Did someone mention Faust?

Is he a striker??

If he is, don't tell Fernando Torres. He might get ideas about how to get a goal . . .

The Divil he will...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: passedit on November 21, 2012, 09:55:04 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 21, 2012, 09:36:06 AM
Quote from: deiseach on November 21, 2012, 09:32:36 AM
Abramovich treats Chelsea like his personal plaything. And having spent the money he has on it, he's entitled to do that. Did someone mention Faust?

Is he a striker??
Aye
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 21, 2012, 09:56:34 AM
Quote from: Bingo on November 21, 2012, 09:52:01 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 21, 2012, 09:37:34 AM
Thought this was a joke!

Rafa back in the PL is a joke.  ;D

This amazes me at times. You will have managers like Hughes,  Redknapp, O'Neill who seem to walk in and out of jobs, get linked with every job available and the fans will get excited at the prospect of them.

Then Rafa gets linked and there is outcry and its a big joke. Alot of these clubs would be far better off with him in charge.

Agree and I'm not a scouser!! Think the media just took a dislike to him as he was a nightmare in interviews!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 21, 2012, 09:57:05 AM
Quote from: passedit on November 21, 2012, 09:55:04 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 21, 2012, 09:36:06 AM
Quote from: deiseach on November 21, 2012, 09:32:36 AM
Abramovich treats Chelsea like his personal plaything. And having spent the money he has on it, he's entitled to do that. Did someone mention Faust?

Is he a striker??
Aye
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I'll give you £40 mill.  Regards Roman.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 21, 2012, 10:00:36 AM
In the words of Didier Drogba.

Its a f**king disgrace.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on November 21, 2012, 10:11:06 AM
Overheard this morning...

RDM : So that's it after winning you the Champions League, 'goodbye and good luck'?
Abramovich : I don't recall saying good luck
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 21, 2012, 10:15:20 AM
It's a joke and this attitude of cherry picking managers and then dumping them will end up destroying the club. I hope Rafa doesn't join them for his sake.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 21, 2012, 10:21:46 AM
I'd be surprised if Rafa was offered the job. But if he were, he'd be mad not to take it. I mean, what has he got to lose? If it doesn't work out everyone will blame Abramovich.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: johnneycool on November 21, 2012, 10:25:15 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 21, 2012, 10:15:20 AM
It's a joke and this attitude of cherry picking managers and then dumping them will end up destroying the club. I hope Rafa doesn't join them for his sake.

I can think of mi££ions of reasons for Rafa to take it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: NAG1 on November 21, 2012, 10:35:31 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 21, 2012, 10:25:15 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 21, 2012, 10:15:20 AM
It's a joke and this attitude of cherry picking managers and then dumping them will end up destroying the club. I hope Rafa doesn't join them for his sake.

I can think of mi££ions of reasons for Rafa to take it.

Any manager be mad not to take it, all you really need to do it sort a striker and a defender not difficult with the budget they are working with and they would be sorted. Those three mata, oscar and hazard are a joy to watch. Bit light weight but great on the eye.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 21, 2012, 10:37:18 AM
What are we on about??  It 'as to be 'Arry :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: nrico2006 on November 21, 2012, 10:44:10 AM
You would imagine that a sensible man whose profile is on the up (Guardiola) would not take this job.  Redknapp would jump at the chance.  I think that Guardiola and Redknapp are over-rated as managers anyway.  Guardiola walked into a job at Barcelona with the team already in place, and Harry Redknapp took over a Spurs team that were pretty decent and had finished pretty high up the table for a few seasons before he came and he ultimately achieved the unbelievable feat of pushing them to fourth.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Minder on November 21, 2012, 10:53:44 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 21, 2012, 10:44:10 AM
You would imagine that a sensible man whose profile is on the up (Guardiola) would not take this job.  Redknapp would jump at the chance.  I think that Guardiola and Redknapp are over-rated as managers anyway.  Guardiola walked into a job at Barcelona with the team already in place, and Harry Redknapp took over a Spurs team that were pretty decent and had finished pretty high up the table for a few seasons before he came and he ultimately achieved the unbelievable feat of pushing them to fourth.

The team Guardiola inherited had just finished in third place in La Liga, 18 points off Real Madrid........
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: orangeman on November 21, 2012, 10:57:32 AM
Abromavich is some boy.

Spoilt child who spits the dummy out as soon as things don't go his way.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 21, 2012, 11:07:22 AM
This time last year, we lost in Italy, lost to WBA and sacked the manager.

The only question then is... Does anyone have a spare ticket for the CL final or the FA Cup final?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 21, 2012, 11:12:38 AM
If Di Matteo can get the Chelsea job on the basis of his record with West Brom, Steve Clarke must be a shoo-in.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: clarshack on November 21, 2012, 11:13:54 AM
can shaktar and juventus kick the ball back and forward to each other and settling for a draw, without there being any kind of repercussions from uefa?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: nrico2006 on November 21, 2012, 11:15:27 AM
Quote from: Minder on November 21, 2012, 10:53:44 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 21, 2012, 10:44:10 AM
You would imagine that a sensible man whose profile is on the up (Guardiola) would not take this job.  Redknapp would jump at the chance.  I think that Guardiola and Redknapp are over-rated as managers anyway.  Guardiola walked into a job at Barcelona with the team already in place, and Harry Redknapp took over a Spurs team that were pretty decent and had finished pretty high up the table for a few seasons before he came and he ultimately achieved the unbelievable feat of pushing them to fourth.

The team Guardiola inherited had just finished in third place in La Liga, 18 points off Real Madrid........

They had won the Champions League and League in the seasons before that one and the majority of the key players under Guariola's reign were already there when he took over.  They don't win the league every year as was shown last year when Guardiola's team finished 9 points behind Madrid.   
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: bennydorano on November 21, 2012, 11:35:23 AM
SSN goin down the Mourinho line rather than Pep. Ruthless stuff from Roman.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: DuffleKing on November 21, 2012, 12:49:43 PM

Oopsie
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AZOffaly on November 21, 2012, 12:53:38 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on November 21, 2012, 11:35:23 AM
SSN goin down the Mourinho line rather than Pep. Ruthless stuff from Roman.

Hard to see Mourinho getting it without Abramovich having to eat a lot of humble pie. I know he got his CL last year, but bringing Mourinho back, with the issues that caused him to leave in the first place, would essentially being Abramovich saying he was wrong in the first place. He doesn't strike me as someone who says that too often.

PS. I think he was wrong to get rid of Mourinho back then.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 21, 2012, 01:17:11 PM
According to the BBC the new manager will be announced today.  Looks like Benitez for rest of season :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Niall Quinn on November 21, 2012, 01:19:12 PM
I wouldn't rule David Jeffrey out just yet.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Up The Middle on November 21, 2012, 02:08:23 PM
Has Jimmy signed with Celtic yet or is he in with a shout here?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: J70 on November 21, 2012, 02:21:30 PM
Pure madness, yet again, at Chelsea!  :o

What is with the ridiculing of Benitez getting a decent job again? (Beyond the brainless, asinine offerings from the usual suspects, I mean?)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 21, 2012, 02:34:03 PM
Quote from: J70 on November 21, 2012, 02:21:30 PM
What is with the ridiculing of Benitez getting a decent job again? (Beyond the brainless, asinine offerings from the usual suspects, I mean?)

Asked and answered.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 21, 2012, 02:46:01 PM
Quote from: J70 on November 21, 2012, 02:21:30 PM
Pure madness, yet again, at Chelsea!  :o

What is with the ridiculing of Benitez getting a decent job again? (Beyond the brainless, asinine offerings from the usual suspects, I mean?)

On the face of it Benitez would be mad to go there. I'm sure Chelsea will try for Guardiola or someone else again in the Summer so it's very likely only a short-term job. The Chelsea fans hate him already so will turn on him pretty rapid if he draws a couple of games. Granted it will probably be great for his bank balance so maybe not so mad.

Surely John Terry as player/manager is what we all want to see here?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: screenexile on November 21, 2012, 03:05:13 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 21, 2012, 10:44:10 AM
You would imagine that a sensible man whose profile is on the up (Guardiola) would not take this job.  Redknapp would jump at the chance.  I think that Guardiola and Redknapp are over-rated as managers anyway.  Guardiola walked into a job at Barcelona with the team already in place, and Harry Redknapp took over a Spurs team that were pretty decent and had finished pretty high up the table for a few seasons before he came and he ultimately achieved the unbelievable feat of pushing them to fourth.

Brilliant!! 14 trophies in 4 years including 2 Champions Leagues and he is over-rated!!

Fergies been manager for 26 years and could have had basically any player he wanted at his disposal and could still only manage the same amount of CL's.

I'm pretty sure Pep is not over-rated and has to rank up there with Fergie and Mourinho as the best managers around stakes. Given he is only 41 I would fancy him to do alright in the next few years as well!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 21, 2012, 03:33:38 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8O_AVGCcAEL0C2.jpg)

New manager in place...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AZOffaly on November 21, 2012, 03:39:11 PM
I'm robbing this :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 21, 2012, 04:52:36 PM
Rafa Benitez will go where the money is, he got big payments when sacked by Liverpool,Inter Milan and the money he'll receive from Chelsea will top the lot. Jose Mourinho to return next season?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: laoislad on November 21, 2012, 06:10:09 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 21, 2012, 09:52:01 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 21, 2012, 09:37:34 AM
Thought this was a joke!

Rafa back in the PL is a joke.  ;D

This amazes me at times. You will have managers like Hughes,  Redknapp, O'Neill who seem to walk in and out of jobs, get linked with every job available and the fans will get excited at the prospect of them.

Then Rafa gets linked and there is outcry and its a big joke. Alot of these clubs would be far better off with him in charge.

What amazes me is you getting amazed by anything that fool posts!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on November 21, 2012, 07:32:54 PM
Rafa Benitez has been offered a two-season deal at Chelsea - winter and spring
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 21, 2012, 07:37:41 PM
QuoteChelsea Football Club can confirm Rafael Benitez has been appointed interim first-team manager until the end of the season.

The owner and the Board believe that in Benitez we have a manager with significant experience at the highest level of football, who can come in and immediately help deliver our objectives.

The 52-year-old Spaniard is due to meet the players at the training ground in Cobham tomorrow.

The two-time UEFA Manager of the Year comes with outstanding pedigree. He began his managerial career in his homeland, most notably at Valencia where he built a reputation as one of Europe's top coaches by winning the Spanish League twice and the UEFA Cup. He then spent six years at Liverpool and led them to their fifth European Cup and an FA Cup.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: All of a Sludden on November 21, 2012, 07:48:52 PM
Breaking news: Rafael Benitez has just been sacked as manager of Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: dec on November 21, 2012, 07:52:44 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on November 21, 2012, 07:48:52 PM
Breaking news: Rafael Benitez has just been sacked as manager of Chelsea.
I'm surprised he lasted so long.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 21, 2012, 08:09:11 PM
Chelsea statement made sure they didn't mention he left Liverpool in a bad state and couldn't cut it at Inter. Abramovich wanted a manager that can win the league for him this season. Can Benitez deliver that wish?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 21, 2012, 08:14:22 PM
Absolutely delighted.

A swop in January, Mata for Barry.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on November 21, 2012, 08:16:33 PM
Wonder what these lads think now.... ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qPch4HPr0CQ#%2521

Rafa Benitez - 2007

"We don't need to give away stupid plastic flags to our fans to wave, our supporters are always there with their hearts and that is all we need. It's the passion of the fans that helps us to win matches, not flags. Chelsea fans lack passion."
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 21, 2012, 08:31:45 PM
Definitely a future quiz question is to name the managers fired under Abramovich's reign!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 21, 2012, 09:28:22 PM
This Chelsea fan has taken the news well. ;D

QuoteOur club became a total joke today, a sad, horrible, awful joke, and I feel ashamed.

Six months on from the greatest night in our history it's come to this.

Roman has a fundamental misunderstanding of football IMO, he doesn't understand the tribal aspect, he doesn't understand that without identity football is meaningless, and this appointment, more than any appointment of any Chelsea employee in the past, compromises our identity.

He just doesn't get these things. He gets other things but not this, and I for one have seriously gone off him after today, I just don't think it's right to sh*t on the fans' feelings in this way, just as it wasn't right for Alan Sugar to appoint George Graham at Spurs.

The Tottenham fans used to camp outside the club's offices at full-time and chant, "We want our Tottenham back", and that's the way I feel about Chelsea now.

I'd honestly take being in the Football Conference over this. Roman has done pretty shocking things in the past, but this is by far the worst.

Success at any price? Not for me. Some things are more important.

This appointment bodes ill. It bodes very very ill. We have a manager the fans don't want. They really, fervently, passionately don't want. It was incumbent IMO for Roman to respect that opinion.

I have this nagging feeling Roman just can't quite accept his £50m poster boy is a dud, hence the attraction of Benitez has grown stronger with each passing unproductive month.

That's right folks. He misguidedly purchased Torres at great expense, and now, to compound that problem, he's just made the most abhorrent signing he could possibly make in the eyes of Chelsea fans.

People are really laughing at us now and rightly so.

If Roman thinks this is going to be successful he's deluded.

This is going to be horrific, and it's going to turn ugly very soon, because Benitez has joined a club where he knows he's unwelcomed by the fans.

I fear him and Torres are going to get a terrible reaction on Sunday.

Let me tell you this, whenever Benitez has left a club he has blamed everybody but himself, and as soon as he leaves Chelsea, with all that ill-feeling, you can bet he won't have a nice thing to say about us, if only to ingratiate himself with the scousers even more.

Roman you're an idiot, and Rafa, you must have a bloody good agent.

Sad day.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on November 21, 2012, 09:30:18 PM
Class. TFSW is back. Always good for a laugh.. Will help lift a boring enough season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Jonah on November 21, 2012, 09:53:27 PM
Can't believe Di Matteo has been sacked.
Chelsea are a joke.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: under the bar on November 21, 2012, 11:05:07 PM
I think RA, despite having achieved his ambition of winning the CL, was probably disgusted in the manner the way it was won and acutely embarrassed at the style.    As he couldn't get Guardiola in the summer he gave RDM a chance but he proved he simply did not how to play in an attacking yet winning style. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: GAA_Talk on November 22, 2012, 12:13:43 AM
Read on Sky News that he got sacked on arrival to the training ground after the Juventus game at 4 O'Clock in the morning. At least he got a proper lie on Wedsnesday.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: fearbrags on November 22, 2012, 01:01:19 AM
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/champions-league/2012/1121/353557-benitez-confirmed-as-new-chelsea-manager/
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: stew on November 22, 2012, 01:50:32 AM
RA is an egomaniac, to let a man go that won the FA cup and CL, whose team a month ago was leading the PL.

It takes time to change the way you play, he has done a great job infusing some new blood into the lineup and was transitioning the squad, preparing for the likes of the post Terry & Lampard era.

Rafa is some pup, not a chance in hell he wasn't interviewing for a job another man held, classless if so.

I hope Chelsea win feck all and that De Matteo gets a better gig and kicks Chelsea's arse with his new team.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: onefaircounty on November 22, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 21, 2012, 09:30:18 PM
Class. TFSW is back. Always good for a laugh.. Will help lift a boring enough season.

Do you not realise that you sound like an absolute idiot when you use phrases like this?

It's not funny, nobody giggles when they read your post, I hope. You just sound like an 11-year-old who is trying too hard.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 22, 2012, 09:37:52 AM
As much as the Chelsea supporters dislike him & he'll struggle to win them over, Chelsea have got themselves a superb manager. He'll help sort out their defence to add to the obvious attacking threat they have.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 22, 2012, 09:42:36 AM
Quote from: stew on November 22, 2012, 01:50:32 AM
RA is an egomaniac, to let a man go that won the FA cup and CL, whose team a month ago was leading the PL.

It takes time to change the way you play, he has done a great job infusing some new blood into the lineup and was transitioning the squad, preparing for the likes of the post Terry & Lampard era.

Rafa is some pup, not a chance in hell he wasn't interviewing for a job another man held, classless if so.

I hope Chelsea win feck all and that De Matteo gets a better gig and kicks Chelsea's arse with his new team.

That's exactly the point. Every manager that came in to Chelsea had a formula that worked. 4-3-3, with Terry at the back, Drogba up top, and Lampard arriving late to support him. So every manager had a head start when they came into Chelsea.

However RDM basically had to reinvent everything. I don't believe that this 4-2-3-1 with Mata, Oscar and Hazard would work. Grand going forward but when possession was lost the midfield was too light and got bypassed quickly, putting the defence under pressure straight away, and no wingers meant that the full backs were exposed too as Chelsea had no wingers.

It was going to take RDM time to perfect this.

And then to compound it, they give the job to a man that is hated at SW6.  He might help organise things, and bring structure, but his personal attacks on Chelsea and their supporters has not been forgotten, and he'll get serious abuse this coming Sunday.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 22, 2012, 09:48:02 AM
It'll be interesting to see how Rafa gets on. I think he's got a tremendous football brain and a set of achievements that match up with anyone (apart from Alex Ferguson). However, his failure at Inter was calamitous and he's walking into an almost identical situation here. I genuinely wish him well, still a top man in my book.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on November 22, 2012, 09:48:21 AM
Quote from: onefaircounty on November 22, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 21, 2012, 09:30:18 PM
Class. TFSW is back. Always good for a laugh.. Will help lift a boring enough season.

Do you not realise that you sound like an absolute idiot when you use phrases like this?

It's not funny, nobody giggles when they read your post, I hope. You just sound like an 11-year-old who is trying too hard.

Good man.  There is always at least one. ;D

Liverpool fans are going to be confused when they play Chelsea now. Who will they support?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Denn Forever on November 22, 2012, 09:52:13 AM
I'd say the most important thing (or what RA and Chelsea fans hope) for Rafa is to get Torres working.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 22, 2012, 09:54:54 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 22, 2012, 09:52:13 AM
I'd say the most important thing (or what RA and Chelsea fans hope) for Rafa is to get Torres working.

The problem is, is that this is 'get Torres working' Version IV.

I always wonder how detailed the medical was the day that transfer was rushed through. I'd prefer to give Sturridge the chance he never has got.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: nrico2006 on November 22, 2012, 09:57:09 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 22, 2012, 09:52:13 AM
I'd say the most important thing (or what RA and Chelsea fans hope) for Rafa is to get Torres working.

A lot is being made of the Rafa and Torres thing, but I feel Torres has lost the one thing that made him that bit special, his speed.  No manager is going to be able to make that come back.  Too many injuries and he is not getting any younger.

As for TFSW, it was the first thing that came into my head when I heard him being appointed yesterday.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 22, 2012, 09:58:44 AM
Norf, can you change the thread title to "The Official Thread of Chelsea FC - Benitez Out"

Frankly I don't care if he has the football brain of Guardiola, Ferguson and Mourinho to the power of 10.  Radio 5Live called it right last night (for once) when its reporter said he hadn't spoken to a single Chelsea fan who was happy with the appointment.

Chelsea is a big club but I would never take that job, in respect for my former team at Liverpool, no matter what." Rafa Benitez 2007.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Bingo on November 22, 2012, 10:00:34 AM
At least Rafa doesn't have to worry about the fans turning against him. I can only imagine that he knows he is in on for the short term regardless of what he achieves or doesn't achieve. Its fairly clear that he is only warming the seat for Pep and when he decides to come back it will be a bidding war for his services with Chelsea, City and PSG all leading the way foir him, maybe even United if it is later rather than sooner.

Rafa will do a good club at Chelsea, they have the players and he will make them harder to beat, which has been a problem for them. If he can get Torres firing, Chelsea will have a good season and could be close in the league. They have the attacking flair but they need a striker to get them the goals that their play creates - the Liverpool game been a perfect example.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 22, 2012, 10:03:54 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 22, 2012, 09:58:44 AM
Chelsea is a big club but I would never take that job, in respect for my former team at Liverpool, no matter what." Rafa Benitez 2007.

Why would he say that in 2007 when he was still manager of Liverpool? What is your source for this quote?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 22, 2012, 10:05:09 AM
Quote from: Bingo on November 22, 2012, 10:00:34 AM
At least Rafa doesn't have to worry about the fans turning against him. I can only imagine that he knows he is in on for the short term regardless of what he achieves or doesn't achieve. Its fairly clear that he is only warming the seat for Pep and when he decides to come back it will be a bidding war for his services with Chelsea, City and PSG all leading the way foir him, maybe even United if it is later rather than sooner.

I doubt Rafa is being that negative in his own mind. Win the league, all is forgiven.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: NAG1 on November 22, 2012, 10:33:05 AM
Not that I like him, but think this is a good appointment for Chelsea and they could be a serious threat now. He is going to get them organised and hard to beat and if they can couple that with their attacking threat then they will definitely be contenders in May.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 22, 2012, 10:50:35 AM
Quote from: deiseach on November 22, 2012, 10:03:54 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 22, 2012, 09:58:44 AM
Chelsea is a big club but I would never take that job, in respect for my former team at Liverpool, no matter what." Rafa Benitez 2007.

Why would he say that in 2007 when he was still manager of Liverpool? What is your source for this quote?

Sorry my mistake I copied the date from another quote about plastic flags.  The full quote "allegedly" is "Chelsea is a big club with fantastic players, every manager wants to coach a such a big team. I would never take that job, in respect for my former team at Liverpool, no matter what".

My source is a mate who's a Liverpool fan.  It's being widely quoted on Liverpool blog sites etc.  However I may be mistaken, something now tells me it might be a quote from Gerard Houllier masquerading as a Benitez quote.  If so, I hold my hand up.  I've got it wrong.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Geoff Tipps on November 22, 2012, 11:19:00 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 22, 2012, 10:50:35 AM
Quote from: deiseach on November 22, 2012, 10:03:54 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 22, 2012, 09:58:44 AM
Chelsea is a big club but I would never take that job, in respect for my former team at Liverpool, no matter what." Rafa Benitez 2007.

Why would he say that in 2007 when he was still manager of Liverpool? What is your source for this quote?

Sorry my mistake I copied the date from another quote about plastic flags.  The full quote "allegedly" is "Chelsea is a big club with fantastic players, every manager wants to coach a such a big team. I would never take that job, in respect for my former team at Liverpool, no matter what".

My source is a mate who's a Liverpool fan.  It's being widely quoted on Liverpool blog sites etc.  However I may be mistaken, something now tells me it might be a quote from Gerard Houllier masquerading as a Benitez quote>>  If so, I hold my hand up. I've got it wrong.

Well I guess he did take credit for his Champion's League win  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on November 22, 2012, 11:43:35 AM
Least this has stirred up the interest in the league this year, could get very interesting with Rafa back on the scene. I think he'll doing well with Chelsea, solid manager wherever he's been....even though a bit prone to the odd meltdown...
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm290/mosherbeard/dgo5g7.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 22, 2012, 11:46:34 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 22, 2012, 11:43:35 AM
Least this has stirred up the interest in the league this year, could get very interesting with Rafa back on the scene. I think he'll doing well with Chelsea, solid manager wherever he's been....even though a bit prone to the odd meltdown...
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm290/mosherbeard/dgo5g7.jpg)

;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Bingo on November 22, 2012, 12:07:34 PM
Thats a great bit of photoshopping in fairness.  :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 22, 2012, 12:22:10 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 22, 2012, 12:07:34 PM
Thats a great bit of photoshopping in fairness.  :D

The top secret dossier - I love it!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 22, 2012, 01:09:04 PM
Bolo Zenden appointed Asst Manager??

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/22/rafael-benitez-boudewijn-zenden-chelsea
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: onefaircounty on November 22, 2012, 01:17:58 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 22, 2012, 11:43:35 AM
..even though a bit prone to the odd meltdown...


Here's am interesting one.

Before the so-called 'rant', Liverpool's points per game was 2.25, after it was 2.28

Liverpool did not lose that league, United won it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on November 22, 2012, 01:22:59 PM
Quote from: onefaircounty on November 22, 2012, 01:17:58 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 22, 2012, 11:43:35 AM
..even though a bit prone to the odd meltdown...


Here's am interesting one.

Before the so-called 'rant', Liverpool's points per game was 2.25, after it was 2.28

Liverpool did not lose that league, United won it.
Who's talking about Liverpool? Benitez got a bit red around the gills during that rant is all I'm saying....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Billys Boots on November 22, 2012, 03:19:15 PM
Quote from: AQMP on November 22, 2012, 01:09:04 PM
Bolo Zenden appointed Asst Manager??

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/22/rafael-benitez-boudewijn-zenden-chelsea

That's odd; who knows it might be a great appointment??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: 5 Sams on November 22, 2012, 04:05:16 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 21, 2012, 03:39:11 PM
I'm robbing this :)

Me too!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: The Biff on November 22, 2012, 04:32:33 PM
QuoteChelsea Football Club can confirm Rafael Benitez has been appointed interim first-team manager until the end of the season.

......

He then spent six years at Liverpool and led them to their fifth European Cup and an FA Cup.

whereas Roberto Di Matteo spent eight months at Chelsea and led them to .... and ...   :o

Who can really blame Abramovich!  He's ploughed a lot of money into Chelsea (how he got that money is another matter entirely).  The fans all loved him at the start when his money won them a couple of League titles.  He has invested more than any fan.  Like it or not, he "owns" the club and so he is entitled to run it as he chooses.

Anyone reckon this actually increases the pressure on Torres to up his performance?  No excuses left now, he has a Spanish-speaking manager, the one who brought him to England in the first place, someone who supposedly has faith in him.  Can he respond accordingly?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 22, 2012, 04:46:15 PM
Clattenburg cleared of Chelsea racism allegations by FA ...

Wonder will he sue Chelsea and will the FA take action against Chelsea?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 22, 2012, 04:48:04 PM
Nice start for Rafa, having to deal with the fallout from this!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 22, 2012, 05:09:43 PM
I tell you one thing Rafa Benitez has now gone 15hrs without a win. Pressure mounts.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 22, 2012, 05:24:00 PM
Read back.

All this is covered. Did the Chelsea groundsman sue United when they accused him of being racist towards Evra? Nope.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 22, 2012, 05:38:10 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 22, 2012, 04:46:15 PM
Clattenburg cleared of Chelsea racism allegations by FA ...

Wonder will he sue Chelsea and will the FA take action against Chelsea?

"The FA states Chelsea took the correct action following the Manchester United match and encourages all players who believe they have been either subject, or witness, to discriminatory abuse to report the matter immediately to the match officials on the day, and in turn to the FA."
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 22, 2012, 05:42:05 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 22, 2012, 04:48:04 PM
Nice start for Rafa, having to deal with the fallout from this!

There shouldn't  be any fall out:

"Chelsea FC welcomes the fact that the FA recognises the club and players were correct in reporting the matter. Chelsea FC has a duty of care, as do all employers, to act responsibly when such allegations are reported by employees. We did not take the decision to lodge a formal complaint with the FA lightly and followed the correct processes and protocols throughout."

From the FA statement:

"Equally The FA is satisfied that the allegation against Mark Clattenburg by Ramires was made in good faith. It is entirely possible for a witness to be genuinely mistaken and convincing in his belief.  The FA receives and investigates numerous allegations of misconduct over the course of a season. All allegations are properly investigated. It is not uncommon for investigations to lead to no disciplinary charge being brought."
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 22, 2012, 05:55:20 PM
On behalf of Mark Clattenburg, the referees' union Prospect is asking Chelsea for a full apology and compensation .

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 22, 2012, 05:56:09 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 22, 2012, 05:24:00 PM
Read back.

All this is covered. Did the Chelsea groundsman sue United when they accused him of being racist towards Evra? Nope.

Maybe he should have got his union involved.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Main Street on November 22, 2012, 06:09:15 PM
As expected there was not an iota of evidence to support and  even evidence to contradict the allegation against Clattenburg

"Having considered all of the available evidence it was the opinion of David Waters QC, independent counsel, that the evidence of Ramires was not supported by any other evidence. Moreover it was contradicted by other witnesses and does not cross the evidential threshold required to bring a charge against Mark Clattenburg," the FA said. "Having considered counsel's opinion, and in view of all the circumstances of the case, the FA does not believe that there is a case for Mr Clattenburg to answer.

Chelsea manage to escape sanction here, despite yet another absolutely groundless and  serious allegation made against the integrity of a referee whose only crime was that he managed to make questionable decisions in a game which did not go Chelsea's way.
This time, Chelsea are only passing on the absurd allegation made by a player, when this all could have been dealt with in the referee's room after the game.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on November 22, 2012, 08:20:36 PM
Mikel charged with misconduct. Relates to his behaviour after the game in and around ref's room.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Jonah on November 22, 2012, 08:32:21 PM
Chelsea really are a horrible club,rotten to the core.
Fans,players and owners are all the same at that club.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 22, 2012, 08:49:27 PM
Sweet geezus boys. Park your anti- Chelsea agenda, and that of the media and deal with what happened.

1. Ramires mistakenly heard Clattenburg call Mikel an abusive name, rumoured to be 'monkey'.
2. Ramires tells Mikel what he heard post the game. Remember Mikel has just lost an important game, and with the major fuel of a racist allegation heads to confront Clattenburg.
3. Chelsea's Ron Gourley is summoned to the scene, however the damage is done, and the allegation is already doing the rounds in media circles.
4. Within minutes Chelsea's PR dept are fending off stories from the media.
5. Chelsea are forced to issue a statement re what happened, and the allegation. Failure to act quickly would've seen Chelsea accused of a cover up.
6. Chelsea, and this is important, follow the FA's guidelines and report the incident to the FA's observer at the game. They followed the FA's own guidelines.
7. Chelsea seek independant legal advice on the Monday who state that they should and are obliged to follow through on the accusation.
8. Chelsea comply with all the FA's requests re the case, and the case is dropped.

Chelsea probably should've added to their statement that 'we apologise to Mark Clattenburg for any offence caused etc etc'. However the onus on this is probably with Ramires or possibly Mikel. In addition Mikel should'nt have charged into the ref's room. However ask yourself if you'd just lost a game, and someone had said that the ref had called you 'a Paddy' something or another. How would you have reacted?

Chelsea as a Club did nothing wrong in this instance. They were damned if they did, and damned if they didn't.

What could Chelsea have done differently?
Why should Chelsea compensate Clattenburg for following FA rules!?
Did United compensate the Chelsea groundsman for accusing him of the same offence?
Was Mike Phelan asked to apoligise to the Chelsea groundsman?
Should Torres sue Clattenburg who accused him of being a cheat?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: laoislad on November 22, 2012, 08:56:25 PM
Good man Norf   :D
Do ever take these off!
(http://www.simplelistings.co.uk/site/images/listings/footieshop/Chelsea/1340446745_npsgwrch-full-preview.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 22, 2012, 08:57:35 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 22, 2012, 08:56:25 PM
Good man Norf   :D
Do ever take these off!
(http://www.simplelistings.co.uk/site/images/listings/footieshop/Chelsea/1340446745_npsgwrch-full-preview.jpg)

Only when Rafa's boss.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ONeill on November 22, 2012, 09:00:13 PM
You have to ask though - Is John Terry behind this all? Did he start the rumour?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ziggy90 on November 22, 2012, 09:14:04 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 22, 2012, 08:49:27 PM
Sweet geezus boys. Park your anti- Chelsea agenda, and that of the media and deal with what happened.

1. Ramires mistakenly heard Clattenburg call Mikel an abusive name, rumoured to be 'monkey'.
2. Ramires tells Mikel what he heard post the game. Remember Mikel has just lost an important game, and with the major fuel of a racist allegation heads to confront Clattenburg.
3. Chelsea's Ron Gourley is summoned to the scene, however the damage is done, and the allegation is already doing the rounds in media circles.
4. Within minutes Chelsea's PR dept are fending off stories from the media.
5. Chelsea are forced to issue a statement re what happened, and the allegation. Failure to act quickly would've seen Chelsea accused of a cover up.
6. Chelsea, and this is important, follow the FA's guidelines and report the incident to the FA's observer at the game. They followed the FA's own guidelines.
7. Chelsea seek independant legal advice on the Monday who state that they should and are obliged to follow through on the accusation.
8. Chelsea comply with all the FA's requests re the case, and the case is dropped.

Chelsea probably should've added to their statement that 'we apologise to Mark Clattenburg for any offence caused etc etc'. However the onus on this is probably with Ramires or possibly Mikel. In addition Mikel should'nt have charged into the ref's room. However ask yourself if you'd just lost a game, and someone had said that the ref had called you 'a Paddy' something or another. How would you have reacted?

Chelsea as a Club did nothing wrong in this instance. They were damned if they did, and damned if they didn't.

What could Chelsea have done differently?
Why should Chelsea compensate Clattenburg for following FA rules!?
Did United compensate the Chelsea groundsman for accusing him of the same offence?
Was Mike Phelan asked to apoligise to the Chelsea groundsman?
Should Torres sue Clattenburg who accused him of being a cheat?

Or you could say as Roy Keane is supposedly to have retorted to Paul Ince when he supposedly said this to him. "Could be worse".
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Lecale2 on November 22, 2012, 10:00:07 PM
Has this anything to do with Roberto di Matteo being sacked?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 22, 2012, 10:04:08 PM
Clattenburg unlikely to ref another Chelsea game and the blues will be happy with that outcome.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 22, 2012, 10:34:34 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 22, 2012, 10:04:08 PM
Clattenburg unlikely to ref another Chelsea game and the blues will be happy with that outcome.

Do you think this was some conspiracy that Mikel and Ramires dreamed up to stop Clattenburg reffing another Chelsea game?

Again, bar Mikel losing his temper post game, no one can reason what Chelsea, in the circumstances, couldv'e done differently.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on November 22, 2012, 10:43:22 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 22, 2012, 10:34:34 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 22, 2012, 10:04:08 PM
Clattenburg unlikely to ref another Chelsea game and the blues will be happy with that outcome.

Do you think this was some conspiracy that Mikel and Ramires dreamed up to stop Clattenburg reffing another Chelsea game?

Again, bar Mikel losing his temper post game, no one can reason what Chelsea, in the circumstances, couldv'e done differently.

True Norf, Chelsea's hand was sort of forced on it but they should of bad the decency to mention Clattenberg in today's statement. He has been dragged through the muck on this a seems he did nothing wrong.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 22, 2012, 11:20:15 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 22, 2012, 10:43:22 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 22, 2012, 10:34:34 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 22, 2012, 10:04:08 PM
Clattenburg unlikely to ref another Chelsea game and the blues will be happy with that outcome.

Do you think this was some conspiracy that Mikel and Ramires dreamed up to stop Clattenburg reffing another Chelsea game?

Again, bar Mikel losing his temper post game, no one can reason what Chelsea, in the circumstances, couldv'e done differently.

True Norf, Chelsea's hand was sort of forced on it but they should of bad the decency to mention Clattenberg in today's statement. He has been dragged through the muck on this a seems he did nothing wrong.

I agree with that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: under the bar on November 23, 2012, 12:29:26 AM
Chelsea FC = pig
Todays statement = grunt
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 23, 2012, 12:40:50 AM
Did the Manc pigs ever apologise to Sam Bethnell?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Estimator on November 23, 2012, 08:28:34 AM
From The Guardian

Chelsea say case is closed but keep their counsel on Mark ClattenburgIt is wrong to demonise Chelsea but club should at least acknowledge the impact on traumatised referee

Daniel Taylor The Guardian, Thursday 22 November 2012
Mark Clattenburg has suffered a lot since he was accused of racially abusing Chelsea's Mikel John Obi.
To put it into context, the player making the allegation speaks barely a word of English. Ramires, brought up in Barra do Piraí, understands the basics – hello, goodbye and so on – and has come to know all the usual football phrases, but little more. Journalists interviewing him use a translator even for the more basic questions. David Luiz performs the role for Ramires in the Chelsea dressing room, where the Brazilian is regarded as a fairly straightforward, decent guy.

His accusation was that Mark Clattenburg said: "Shut up you monkey," to Mikel John Obi, and he has stuck by it even when it became apparent nobody within earshot heard anything of the sort. Nobody, it turns out, can even pinpoint a moment when Ramires might have misheard something. There was no "shut up Mikel", or anything similar.

All that can be said with great certainty is that Clattenburg has suffered the consequences. Goodness knows what it has been like for him over the past three and a half weeks and, at the very least, Chelsea might have offered a few sympathetic words in the statement they put out 40 minutes or so before getting on with the business of Rafael Benítez's entrance.

Nothing too fancy, just some form of recognition about the human suffering that has been endured.

Clattenburg's statement described it as "the most stressful time of my professional life", using the emotive language that is rarely found in releases from Premier League HQ. "To know you were innocent of something but that there was the opportunity for it to wreck your career was truly frightening," he added. Chelsea's contained a few lines explaining their position, finishing with a sentence about their commitment to working with referees, but not a single word about the man they had accused of racially abusing their player.

"The club accepts the case is now concluded," it says. Which is a lot different to accepting he didn't do it.

He did not, of course, and the verdict should be of little surprise to anyone who has followed this case closely. Few people believed it at the time and, as more details have emerged, it became increasingly clear the evidence was thin, to say the least. The FA's investigators took 11 witness statements and nobody corroborated Ramires's story. They studied previously unseen television footage of the relevant match, Chelsea's 3-2 defeat against Manchester United, and it showed nothing. Clattenburg had key witnesses in the two linesmen and fourth official who were linked to him by microphone. If this were a police matter and the Crown Prosecution Service had allowed it to get to court, we would be talking about a flagrant misuse of taxpayers' money.

Yet it is wrong, too, to demonise Chelsea. They will be braced for a good kicking. It has become their default position more times than they will care to remember and, yes, it is clear they have made mistakes. But football is so quick to look for guilty parties it rarely stops to consider that maybe it is not quite that straightforward, as messy and unsatisfactory as it all is. What, after all, were Chelsea supposed to do if one of their players was adamant he had heard a team-mate being racially abused?

Ramires was so convinced it persuaded an incensed Mikel to go looking for Clattenburg, storming into the referee's room in the bowels of Stamford Bridge and causing the scene that has left the Nigerian facing his own FA misconduct charge.

Two lines jump out in the FA's statement. The first is that "the player and club were correct in reporting the matter". The second states Ramires made the allegation "in good faith", pointing out "it is entirely possible for a witness to be genuinely mistaken and convincing in his belief".

Clattenburg, unfortunately for him, has had to live through the consequences but the alternative, from Chelsea's perspective, was to keep it internal. Hush it up, in other words. What, then, if it had come out?

Chelsea, remember, have a culture of leaks. Just imagine, on the back of the John Terry affair, if it had got out that they had tried to suppress another racism story. It would have been a scandal.

This is not to say that Chelsea's conduct is not deserving of scrutiny when, to cite one example, someone in a position of power ordered that the story should be briefed. Clattenburg touches upon this in his statement, pointing out "the ramifications of allegations of this nature" being made public before the formal process. He has spent a large part of the past month behind closed curtains at home, with television crews camped on the lawn. His doorbell has been pressed first thing in the morning and last thing at night. The same for his relatives, too.

He will not sue because it would mean having to give up his career, or at least put it on hold, when there is still every chance he will be officiating at the World Cup in 2014, but Alan Leighton of the referees' union Prospect is adamant that Clattenburg deserves some form of compensation.

Clattenburg has, for starters, lost thousands of pounds in match fees. But this is about more than those blank weekends. "Compensation for the stress," Leighton says. "Compensation for walking down the street and knowing people are thinking: 'Aah, there goes the racist referee.' His reputation has been trashed." It is no surprise that Chelsea have already indicated they will turn down the request and will quickly move on.

Clattenburg wants to do the same now, but there will be conditions attached. His bosses will keep him off Chelsea games for the immediate future. He can probably live with that but it also means that, if Chelsea reach a Wembley final this season, his chances of refereeing it are somewhere between minimal and nonexistent. "I hope no referee has to go through this in the future," he says
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 23, 2012, 08:55:07 AM
Accusing Norf Tyrone of being one-eyed when it comes to Chelsea is playing the man, not the ball. His fundamental question - what were Chelsea meant to do when one of their players came to them saying he believed he had been racially abused by the ref? - is a valid one. Heck, they can't even hang Ramires out to dry over this because even the FA are saying he made his accusation in good faith!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 23, 2012, 08:59:22 AM
Quote from: Jonah on November 22, 2012, 08:32:21 PM
Chelsea really are a horrible club,rotten to the core.
Fans,players and owners are all the same at that club.

'Scuuuuse me!?!?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: under the bar on November 25, 2012, 06:20:13 PM
Lol at the Rafa Out sign when the corner was being taken!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Main Street on November 25, 2012, 07:03:16 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 23, 2012, 08:55:07 AM
Accusing Norf Tyrone of being one-eyed when it comes to Chelsea is playing the man, not the ball. His fundamental question - what were Chelsea meant to do when one of their players came to them saying he believed he had been racially abused by the ref? - is a valid one. Heck, they can't even hang Ramires out to dry over this because even the FA are saying he made his accusation in good faith!
What were Chelsea to do?  Considering they have a past record of being wrong, not only being wrong but deliberately supporting the fabrication of vile accusations aimed against refs, eventually forcing them out of the game, then they could have proceeded with caution and examined the matter first before blabbering like a whiney bunch of spoilt weasels.
It is astonishing that this serious complaint was even made considering the flimsy, wafer thin evidence.
The FA have not only thrown out the case but say there is contradictory evidence. They can't say that players should not come forward with such accusations or say that if a player's accusation cannot be proven then he should be punished.
What has muddied these waters is that the accusation came from the EPL club with a proven disreputable record in this area.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 25, 2012, 07:50:32 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 25, 2012, 07:03:16 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 23, 2012, 08:55:07 AM
Accusing Norf Tyrone of being one-eyed when it comes to Chelsea is playing the man, not the ball. His fundamental question - what were Chelsea meant to do when one of their players came to them saying he believed he had been racially abused by the ref? - is a valid one. Heck, they can't even hang Ramires out to dry over this because even the FA are saying he made his accusation in good faith!
What were Chelsea to do?  Considering they have a past record of being wrong, not only being wrong but deliberately supporting the fabrication of vile accusations aimed against refs, eventually forcing them out of the game, then they could have proceeded with caution and examined the matter first before blabbering like a whiney bunch of spoilt weasels.
It is astonishing that this serious complaint was even made considering the flimsy, wafer thin evidence.
The FA have not only thrown out the case but say there is contradictory evidence. They can't say that players should not come forward with such accusations or say that if a player's accusation cannot be proven then he should be punished.
What has muddied these waters is that the accusation came from the EPL club with a proven disreputable record in this area.

What accusations did Chelsea make in the past that wasn't true?

Again you've refused to deal with the facts. I've made the same point several times but people are just ignoring it get their point across.

Before Chelsea were able to manage the event, their PR dept were already dealing with journalists querying the event. Read this bit carefully. The FAs rules state that Chelsea HAD to report the complaint as soon as Mikel reported it to them.

They had a choice then. Keep it under wraps ans be accused coffee a racist cover up, with the knowledge that the story would come out anyhow. Or make a statement.

There was a no win situation.

Considering Liverpool's past, some of your adjectives could be based on experience!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 25, 2012, 08:00:08 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 25, 2012, 07:50:32 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 25, 2012, 07:03:16 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 23, 2012, 08:55:07 AM
Accusing Norf Tyrone of being one-eyed when it comes to Chelsea is playing the man, not the ball. His fundamental question - what were Chelsea meant to do when one of their players came to them saying he believed he had been racially abused by the ref? - is a valid one. Heck, they can't even hang Ramires out to dry over this because even the FA are saying he made his accusation in good faith!
What were Chelsea to do?  Considering they have a past record of being wrong, not only being wrong but deliberately supporting the fabrication of vile accusations aimed against refs, eventually forcing them out of the game, then they could have proceeded with caution and examined the matter first before blabbering like a whiney bunch of spoilt weasels.
It is astonishing that this serious complaint was even made considering the flimsy, wafer thin evidence.
The FA have not only thrown out the case but say there is contradictory evidence. They can't say that players should not come forward with such accusations or say that if a player's accusation cannot be proven then he should be punished.
What has muddied these waters is that the accusation came from the EPL club with a proven disreputable record in this area.

What accusations did Chelsea make in the past that wasn't true?

Again you've refused to deal with the facts. I've made the same point several times but people are just ignoring it get their point across.

Before Chelsea were able to manage the event, their PR dept were already dealing with journalists querying the event. Read this bit carefully. The FAs rules state that Chelsea HAD to report the complaint as soon as Mikel reported it to them.

They had a choice then. Keep it under wraps ans be accused coffee a racist cover up, with the knowledge that the story would come out anyhow. Or make a statement.

There was a no win situation.

Considering Liverpool's past, some of your adjectives could be based on experience!

That's it down to a tea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 25, 2012, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: AQMP on November 25, 2012, 08:00:08 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 25, 2012, 07:50:32 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 25, 2012, 07:03:16 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 23, 2012, 08:55:07 AM
Accusing Norf Tyrone of being one-eyed when it comes to Chelsea is playing the man, not the ball. His fundamental question - what were Chelsea meant to do when one of their players came to them saying he believed he had been racially abused by the ref? - is a valid one. Heck, they can't even hang Ramires out to dry over this because even the FA are saying he made his accusation in good faith!
What were Chelsea to do?  Considering they have a past record of being wrong, not only being wrong but deliberately supporting the fabrication of vile accusations aimed against refs, eventually forcing them out of the game, then they could have proceeded with caution and examined the matter first before blabbering like a whiney bunch of spoilt weasels.
It is astonishing that this serious complaint was even made considering the flimsy, wafer thin evidence.
The FA have not only thrown out the case but say there is contradictory evidence. They can't say that players should not come forward with such accusations or say that if a player's accusation cannot be proven then he should be punished.
What has muddied these waters is that the accusation came from the EPL club with a proven disreputable record in this area.

What accusations did Chelsea make in the past that wasn't true?

Again you've refused to deal with the facts. I've made the same point several times but people are just ignoring it get their point across.

Before Chelsea were able to manage the event, their PR dept were already dealing with journalists querying the event. Read this bit carefully. The FAs rules state that Chelsea HAD to report the complaint as soon as Mikel reported it to them.

They had a choice then. Keep it under wraps ans be accused coffee a racist cover up, with the knowledge that the story would come out anyhow. Or make a statement.

There was a no win situation.

Considering Liverpool's past, some of your adjectives could be based on experience!

That's it down to a tea.

Ha ha. Faking predictive txt. New tablet!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ONeill on November 25, 2012, 10:48:31 PM
It's not as simple as that Norf and I suspect you know it. Chelsea ruined the refereeing careers of Anders Frisk (death threats, allegations unfounded), Overbo (death threats, accused of cheating) and almost did it again with unfounded allegations. To say they HAD to act doesn't hold up. A swift/immediate internal investigation would've revealed that there was no substance to the allegation. Given the negative publicity the club has received in recent years, surely that was the sensible action.

Graham Poll also had allegations from Chelsea withdrawn. It's a pattern that they don't seem to be learning from.

What are your honest opinions of the Abramovich Chelsea - the club they are now (a lot more successful) to the club you knew growing up? To me, it's not Chelsea anymore.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 26, 2012, 12:35:19 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 25, 2012, 10:48:31 PM
It's not as simple as that Norf and I suspect you know it. Chelsea ruined the refereeing careers of Anders Frisk (death threats, allegations unfounded), Overbo (death threats, accused of cheating) and almost did it again with unfounded allegations. To say they HAD to act doesn't hold up. A swift/immediate internal investigation would've revealed that there was no substance to the allegation. Given the negative publicity the club has received in recent years, surely that was the sensible action.

Graham Poll also had allegations from Chelsea withdrawn. It's a pattern that they don't seem to be learning from.

What are your honest opinions of the Abramovich Chelsea - the club they are now (a lot more successful) to the club you knew growing up? To me, it's not Chelsea anymore.
An awful shower of scum. They are simply employing the dark art of the smear campaign beloved of Russian oligarchs. Still the refs should be thankful they have found no Polonium 210 in their halftime brew.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 26, 2012, 11:11:12 AM
I'm not going to defend Chelsea either as a club or about previous incidents, but in this case they had no choice but to report Clattenburg. As Norf Tyrone has pointed out, they HAVE to report these incidents. Let's imagine you were racially abused. Would you have any faith in a system which begins with having a chat behind closed doors, just to see if you are on the level? I'm reminded of the scene in Cracker where Penhaligon is told by DCI Wise after she accuses Beck of raping her to cut out the hairy-arsed lesbian stuff and come and have a drink with her mates. And no, I'm not comparing racial abuse to rape, but there has to be a process for dealing with this kind of thing and it shouldn't begin with one of the interested parties investigating itself.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 26, 2012, 11:41:15 AM
"In this case, the player and club were correct in reporting the matter to The FA and it was appropriate and proper for such an allegation to be thoroughly investigated".

That is from the FA statement. 

Chelsea made two errors in the process. 1)  Some PR idiot leaked to the press that the "inappropriate language" was racist in nature.  2) CFC and/or Ramires should at least write to Clattenburg saying along the lines that they had no choice but to report however they now accept that, while acting in good faith, Ramires was mistaken.

Apart from that this has been done to death.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 26, 2012, 11:47:52 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 26, 2012, 11:41:15 AM
Apart from that this has been done to death.

Since when has that ever stopped us before? :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 26, 2012, 11:51:17 AM
Quote from: deiseach on November 26, 2012, 11:47:52 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 26, 2012, 11:41:15 AM
Apart from that this has been done to death.

Since when has that ever stopped us before? :P

Indeed, long may it continue.  Now about Luis Garcia's "ghost goal"...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 26, 2012, 12:06:44 PM
Quote from: AQMP on November 26, 2012, 11:51:17 AM
Indeed, long may it continue.  Now about Luis Garcia's "ghost goal"...

Twas never a goal. Which made it all the sweeter!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 26, 2012, 12:42:09 PM
Question for Chelsea fans. Was the reception Rafael Benitez got yesterday primarily a function of the treatment of Roberto Di Matteo or an expression of an overarching contempt for Rafa?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: johnneycool on November 26, 2012, 01:10:05 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 26, 2012, 12:42:09 PM
Question for Chelsea fans. Was the reception Rafael Benitez got yesterday primarily a function of the treatment of Roberto Di Matteo or an expression of an overarching contempt for Rafa?

You'd have thought the Chelsea fans would be marching on the bridge looking for the head of the man who sacked their beloved 'Robbie DM' and replaced him with the odious Rafa Liverpool Benitez?

No wait, you don't cut your nose off to spite your face.

Chelsea fans should suck it up as they're only part of the play thing that belongs to the Russian fella with all the gas.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 26, 2012, 01:14:23 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 26, 2012, 12:42:09 PM
Question for Chelsea fans. Was the reception Rafael Benitez got yesterday primarily a function of the treatment of Roberto Di Matteo or an expression of an overarching contempt for Rafa?

A bit of both deiseach, but I'd go 25% sympathy for RDM, 50% contempt for Benitez and 25% was "Hang on here a minute, Roman".  I take a clear stance on any supporters of any club booing their own players/manager.  These people pay good hard earned money to go to these matches and they're perfectly entitled to boo if they want.  I don't buy all this "respect" bollocks.

In a strange way I was heartened by the hostiity toward Benitez, not for the reason you might think.  It felt like the fans were finally saying to Abramovich "stop treating this club like a toy" and they were making their voice heard.  For once (after ample opportunities to do so) Chelsea fans were saying "No, this can't go on".  It felt to me that Benitez's appointment was the straw that broke the camel's back.  O'Neill said a few posts back that Chelsea is not the club supporters grew up with and I'd agree with that (with the caveat "what club is?).  The perception of Chelsea amongst 20-25 year olds has to have been posioned by some of the events of the past 10 years.

The problem is that Abramovich owns 100% of the club.  His policy is one of short termism and I don't expect that to change (a half a dozen more 0-0 draws and Benitez will be gone by the end of January!), however this is not going to attract a Guardiola.  I think the vast majority of fans would accept a season or maybe two of finishing 7th or 8th if that's what is needed to build a new long term sustainable team.  IMHO that is what is needed at Chelsea but it's unlikely to happen.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 26, 2012, 01:37:54 PM
Thanks for the considered response, AQMP. I'm surprised at the level of hostility towards Benitez as a person. If anything it's us Liverpool fans who should be offended by his dismissal of his previous comments as being what was expedient at the time! Still, I completely agree that fans paying a lot of their hard-earned on a team are entitled to be as vocally venomous as they like. I don't do it myself but that's because I don't get any satisfaction from it. If it makes you feel better, boo all you like.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ONeill on November 26, 2012, 01:53:51 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 26, 2012, 11:11:12 AM
I'm not going to defend Chelsea either as a club or about previous incidents, but in this case they had no choice but to report Clattenburg. As Norf Tyrone has pointed out, they HAVE to report these incidents. Let's imagine you were racially abused. Would you have any faith in a system which begins with having a chat behind closed doors, just to see if you are on the level? I'm reminded of the scene in Cracker where Penhaligon is told by DCI Wise after she accuses Beck of raping her to cut out the hairy-arsed lesbian stuff and come and have a drink with her mates. And no, I'm not comparing racial abuse to rape, but there has to be a process for dealing with this kind of thing and it shouldn't begin with one of the interested parties investigating itself.

When it comes to a potentially career-ending allegation (true or not), surely the facts need to be established and verified internally before reporting the incident.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 26, 2012, 02:01:07 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 26, 2012, 01:53:51 PM
When it comes to a potentially career-ending allegation (true or not), surely the facts need to be established and verified internally before reporting the incident.

Sounds like the excuse used by every cover-up in history. Can you imagine the stink if Chelsea conducted an internal investigation and found there was nothing to support the allegations, then had a falling-out with Mikel down the line even over something as trivial as a contract dispute and Mikel went public saying he wasn't happy with the 'internal investigation'? Chelsea did the right thing in this case.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 26, 2012, 02:19:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 26, 2012, 01:53:51 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 26, 2012, 11:11:12 AM
I'm not going to defend Chelsea either as a club or about previous incidents, but in this case they had no choice but to report Clattenburg. As Norf Tyrone has pointed out, they HAVE to report these incidents. Let's imagine you were racially abused. Would you have any faith in a system which begins with having a chat behind closed doors, just to see if you are on the level? I'm reminded of the scene in Cracker where Penhaligon is told by DCI Wise after she accuses Beck of raping her to cut out the hairy-arsed lesbian stuff and come and have a drink with her mates. And no, I'm not comparing racial abuse to rape, but there has to be a process for dealing with this kind of thing and it shouldn't begin with one of the interested parties investigating itself.

When it comes to a potentially career-ending allegation (true or not), surely the facts need to be established and verified internally before reporting the incident.

You might have a point but that would need to be written into the FA rules and Equality Law.  Chelsea followed the rules, regulations and legislation to the letter and shouldn't be criticised for that.

The FA state: The FA encourages all players who believe they have been either subject, or witness to, discriminatory abuse to report the matter immediately to the match officials on the day.

Some tosser in PR trying to ingratiate him/herself to journos leaked the nature of the allegation(s).  Chelsea did carry out an internal investigation and decided to not make a formal complaint about Mata.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Bingo on November 26, 2012, 02:42:51 PM
Quote from: AQMP on November 26, 2012, 01:14:23 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 26, 2012, 12:42:09 PM
Question for Chelsea fans. Was the reception Rafael Benitez got yesterday primarily a function of the treatment of Roberto Di Matteo or an expression of an overarching contempt for Rafa?

A bit of both deiseach, but I'd go 25% sympathy for RDM, 50% contempt for Benitez and 25% was "Hang on here a minute, Roman".  I take a clear stance on any supporters of any club booing their own players/manager.  These people pay good hard earned money to go to these matches and they're perfectly entitled to boo if they want.  I don't buy all this "respect" bollocks.

In a strange way I was heartened by the hostiity toward Benitez, not for the reason you might think.  It felt like the fans were finally saying to Abramovich "stop treating this club like a toy" and they were making their voice heard.  For once (after ample opportunities to do so) Chelsea fans were saying "No, this can't go on".  It felt to me that Benitez's appointment was the straw that broke the camel's back.  O'Neill said a few posts back that Chelsea is not the club supporters grew up with and I'd agree with that (with the caveat "what club is?).  The perception of Chelsea amongst 20-25 year olds has to have been posioned by some of the events of the past 10 years.

The problem is that Abramovich owns 100% of the club.  His policy is one of short termism and I don't expect that to change (a half a dozen more 0-0 draws and Benitez will be gone by the end of January!), however this is not going to attract a Guardiola.  I think the vast majority of fans would accept a season or maybe two of finishing 7th or 8th if that's what is needed to build a new long term sustainable team.  IMHO that is what is needed at Chelsea but it's unlikely to happen.

Do you not think though that RA is getting off scot free in this? I can understand that Rafa isn't welcome or will probably never be liked by the supporters but it was also apparent that alot of the ill-feeling was about RDM getting sacked. Why wasn't the hostility at RA then? Sure, its very highly unlikely that he'd give one flying f*** or change his ways, but I think this belittles your point that it was about Chelsea fans been hostile or standing up to the owner, it wasn't. They used Benitez to vent their anger, I'm just not sure what this anger was about though. Anger at RDM been sacked and a hated figure coming in; or anger at the realisation that they have absolute no control in their club and the realisation that it is a plaything for a foreign owner who cares little about them. For instance, I'd firmly believe if it was Harry Redknapp in yesterday it would have been a whole different atmosphere.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 26, 2012, 03:01:36 PM
I think we're more or less on the same wavelength here Bingo.  While Abramovich tinkered and messed with Chelsea over the years he could always point to the club being (by Chelsea's historic standards) successful on the pitch.  However his appointment of a manager who previously had expressed a lot of antipathy towards the club has given the fans the oportunity to vent their dissent at the appointment and therefore at Abramovich (who gave Rafa the job).  It's like they've finally decided to let him know that they know that he doesn't give much of a toss about the fans.  To paraphrase Enoch Powell (probably a Chelsea fan given his politics ;)) "He has mistaken a mood of resignation for one of tolerance"
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 26, 2012, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2012, 02:42:51 PM
Quote from: AQMP on November 26, 2012, 01:14:23 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 26, 2012, 12:42:09 PM
Question for Chelsea fans. Was the reception Rafael Benitez got yesterday primarily a function of the treatment of Roberto Di Matteo or an expression of an overarching contempt for Rafa?

A bit of both deiseach, but I'd go 25% sympathy for RDM, 50% contempt for Benitez and 25% was "Hang on here a minute, Roman".  I take a clear stance on any supporters of any club booing their own players/manager.  These people pay good hard earned money to go to these matches and they're perfectly entitled to boo if they want.  I don't buy all this "respect" bollocks.

In a strange way I was heartened by the hostiity toward Benitez, not for the reason you might think.  It felt like the fans were finally saying to Abramovich "stop treating this club like a toy" and they were making their voice heard.  For once (after ample opportunities to do so) Chelsea fans were saying "No, this can't go on".  It felt to me that Benitez's appointment was the straw that broke the camel's back.  O'Neill said a few posts back that Chelsea is not the club supporters grew up with and I'd agree with that (with the caveat "what club is?).  The perception of Chelsea amongst 20-25 year olds has to have been posioned by some of the events of the past 10 years.

The problem is that Abramovich owns 100% of the club.  His policy is one of short termism and I don't expect that to change (a half a dozen more 0-0 draws and Benitez will be gone by the end of January!), however this is not going to attract a Guardiola.  I think the vast majority of fans would accept a season or maybe two of finishing 7th or 8th if that's what is needed to build a new long term sustainable team.  IMHO that is what is needed at Chelsea but it's unlikely to happen.

Do you not think though that RA is getting off scot free in this?

Well it's not like they want Abramovich to say sod this I'm off and to take his billions with him. Chelsea would have no problem getting new owners given their higher-profile these days but no guarantee they would be anywhere near as free-spending as Abramovich has been. Without him Chelsea could easily be in the same situation as similiar London clubs like Crystal Palace or Charlton Athletic or best case scenario they would be a decent Premier League side like their neighbours Fulham. Never really in danger of going down but not winning much either. They may dislike the way he operates but even the fans know that Abramovich writes the cheques that keep them where they are.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 26, 2012, 03:43:36 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on November 26, 2012, 03:17:30 PM
[Well it's not like they want Abramovich to say sod this I'm off and to take his billions with him. Chelsea would have no problem getting new owners given their higher-profile these days but no guarantee they would be anywhere near as free-spending as Abramovich has been. Without him Chelsea could easily be in the same situation as similiar London clubs like Crystal Palace or Charlton Athletic or best case scenario they would be a decent Premier League side like their neighbours Fulham. Never really in danger of going down but not winning much either. They may dislike the way he operates but even the fans know that Abramovich writes the cheques that keep them where they are

Well, yes and no.  In the 11 seasons of the Premiership (since we all agree that football was invented in 1992) before Abramovich acquired the club in July 2003, Chelsea finished (working backwards) 4th, 6th, 6th, 5th, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 11th, 11th, 14th, 11th.  During this time they won 2 FA Cups, 1 League Cup and 1 Cup Winners Cup.  Not earth shattering, I agree, but not Fulham or Charlton Athletic either.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on November 26, 2012, 03:51:15 PM
Quote from: AQMP on November 26, 2012, 03:43:36 PM
Well, yes and no.  In the 11 seasons of the Premiership (since we all agree that football was invented in 1992) before Abramovich acquired the club in July 2003, Chelsea finished (working backwards) 4th, 6th, 6th, 5th, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 11th, 11th, 14th, 11th.  During this time they won 2 FA Cups, 1 League Cup and 1 Cup Winners Cup.  Not earth shattering, I agree, but not Fulham or Charlton Athletic either.

So . .. you want Ken Bates back? ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 26, 2012, 03:55:40 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 26, 2012, 03:51:15 PM
Quote from: AQMP on November 26, 2012, 03:43:36 PM
Well, yes and no.  In the 11 seasons of the Premiership (since we all agree that football was invented in 1992) before Abramovich acquired the club in July 2003, Chelsea finished (working backwards) 4th, 6th, 6th, 5th, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 11th, 11th, 14th, 11th.  During this time they won 2 FA Cups, 1 League Cup and 1 Cup Winners Cup.  Not earth shattering, I agree, but not Fulham or Charlton Athletic either.

So . .. you want Ken Bates back? ;)

Frying pan...fire ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Bingo on November 26, 2012, 04:09:45 PM
Possibly AQMP. I still feel the issue is more with Bentiez than with the sacking/appointment of managers. The "new" Chelsea fans will happily see managers come and go but they felt Bentiez was a bridge too far with his flag waving comments.

Its blatantly clear they'll never willingly turn on RA, so they'll turn on his appointments instead.

You noted earlier that Chelsea fans would happily take a few seasons of 8th place to turn things round and let a manager build his own squad. For me, the appointment of Benitez is RA taking a hit. He doesn't expect too much from him, see's him as a safe bet to mind the house till Pep becomes available. Benitez see's it as a chance for him to put himself into the shop window and maybe prove a few points and is willing to take it for what it is - an interim management job.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 26, 2012, 04:28:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2012, 04:09:45 PM
Possibly AQMP. I still feel the issue is more with Bentiez than with the sacking/appointment of managers. The "new" Chelsea fans will happily see managers come and go but they felt Bentiez was a bridge too far with his flag waving comments.

Its blatantly clear they'll never willingly turn on RA, so they'll turn on his appointments instead.

You noted earlier that Chelsea fans would happily take a few seasons of 8th place to turn things round and let a manager build his own squad. For me, the appointment of Benitez is RA taking a hit. He doesn't expect too much from him, see's him as a safe bet to mind the house till Pep becomes available. Benitez see's it as a chance for him to put himself into the shop window and maybe prove a few points and is willing to take it for what it is - an interim management job.

I don't see Guardiola taking the Chelsea job to be honest. For a few reasons. However maybe Abramovich feels he can just throw enough money at him that he won't be able to refuse.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on November 26, 2012, 04:31:38 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on November 26, 2012, 04:28:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2012, 04:09:45 PM
Possibly AQMP. I still feel the issue is more with Bentiez than with the sacking/appointment of managers. The "new" Chelsea fans will happily see managers come and go but they felt Bentiez was a bridge too far with his flag waving comments.

Its blatantly clear they'll never willingly turn on RA, so they'll turn on his appointments instead.

You noted earlier that Chelsea fans would happily take a few seasons of 8th place to turn things round and let a manager build his own squad. For me, the appointment of Benitez is RA taking a hit. He doesn't expect too much from him, see's him as a safe bet to mind the house till Pep becomes available. Benitez see's it as a chance for him to put himself into the shop window and maybe prove a few points and is willing to take it for what it is - an interim management job.

I don't see Guardiola taking the Chelsea job to be honest. For a few reasons. However maybe Abramovich feels he can just throw enough money at him that he won't be able to refuse.
Agree. I could see Guardiola at Arsenal before Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Bingo on November 26, 2012, 04:47:57 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on November 26, 2012, 04:28:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2012, 04:09:45 PM
Possibly AQMP. I still feel the issue is more with Bentiez than with the sacking/appointment of managers. The "new" Chelsea fans will happily see managers come and go but they felt Bentiez was a bridge too far with his flag waving comments.

Its blatantly clear they'll never willingly turn on RA, so they'll turn on his appointments instead.

You noted earlier that Chelsea fans would happily take a few seasons of 8th place to turn things round and let a manager build his own squad. For me, the appointment of Benitez is RA taking a hit. He doesn't expect too much from him, see's him as a safe bet to mind the house till Pep becomes available. Benitez see's it as a chance for him to put himself into the shop window and maybe prove a few points and is willing to take it for what it is - an interim management job.

I don't see Guardiola taking the Chelsea job to be honest. For a few reasons. However maybe Abramovich feels he can just throw enough money at him that he won't be able to refuse.

Yeah, without doubt. RA will feel that he can get what he wants. I don't imagine there are too many round him saying "No, we won't get Pep", they'd never last. In his world, has there ever been a time when he didn't get what he wanted?  I doubt it.

He'll fully expect Pep to take the job as he'll throw money at it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: orangeman on November 28, 2012, 09:55:33 AM
Chelsea still not getting it lads.

They regret the way they handlded the Clattenburg incident. But no apology.

Chelsea regret handling of Mark Clattenburg racism accusation
Chelsea say they "regret" the way they handled their accusation that referee Mark Clattenburg used racial language towards midfielder John Mikel Obi.

The allegations were dismissed by the Football Association and the police dropped their own inquiry.

The club also indicated they would be happy for Clattenburg to referee at Stamford Bridge in future.

Clattenburg's boss, the Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL), also said it would have "no issue" in appointing him to Chelsea fixtures.

A joint statement by the Premier League, PGMOL and Chelsea said: "It is time to draw a line under this incident."

Clattenburg missed four weekends of Premier League matches while the FA investigated Chelsea's complaint, but will return to referee Norwich's match at Southampton on Wednesday.

The FA cleared him last week of using "inappropriate language" towards Mikel in Chelsea's home defeat by Manchester United on 28 October following claims by Blues midfielder Ramires.

In Tuesday'sjoint statement, Chelsea insisted they had been duty bound to report the allegation to the FA.

"The referees accept that, given Chelsea FC had received a good faith claim from one of their employees, the club had an obligation under FA rules to report the allegation," the statement read.

However, Chelsea acknowledged that making the allegations public immediately after the game led to unwelcome press attention towards Clattenburg and his family.


"The club regrets not having given more consideration before issuing a statement on the evening of Sunday, 28 October," the statement continued. The club also regrets the subsequent impact the intense media scrutiny had on Mark Clattenburg and his family."

The meeting between PGMOL, the Premier League and Chelsea took place on Monday at England's National Football Centre, St George's Park.

PGMOL were represented by general manager Mike Riley and all 16 top-flight referees, the Premier League by chief executive Richard Scudamore and Chelsea FC by club chairman Bruce Buck.

Referees' union Prospect welcomed the joint statement and said the use of the word "regrets" was "tantamount to, and accepted by Mark and the Select Group [of referees], as an apology".

"Importantly the statement also refers to Chelsea's willingness to welcome Mark back to Stamford Bridge," Prospect continued.

"This was an important move forward in confirming Chelsea's recognition of Mark's integrity and impartiality."

The 37-year-old always denied the charges and the Metropolitan Police dropped its own inquiry earlier this month.

Clattenburg admitted that he feared that the allegations could have brought an end to his career as a referee.

"To know you were innocent of something but that there was the opportunity for it to wreck your career was truly frightening," he said in a statement after being cleared by the FA.

Upon clearing Clattenburg, the FA charged Mikel with misconduct following his involvement in the incident.

Chelsea have indicated he will not deny the charge but will request a hearing to "explain the mitigating circumstances".

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on November 28, 2012, 10:12:06 AM
As the song goes....sorry seems to be the hardest word.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on November 28, 2012, 10:14:11 AM
Quote from: orangeman on November 28, 2012, 09:55:33 AM
Chelsea still not getting it lads.

They regret the way they handlded the Clattenburg incident. But no apology.

Chelsea regret handling of Mark Clattenburg racism accusation
Chelsea say they "regret" the way they handled their accusation that referee Mark Clattenburg used racial language towards midfielder John Mikel Obi.

The allegations were dismissed by the Football Association and the police dropped their own inquiry.

The club also indicated they would be happy for Clattenburg to referee at Stamford Bridge in future.

Clattenburg's boss, the Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL), also said it would have "no issue" in appointing him to Chelsea fixtures.

A joint statement by the Premier League, PGMOL and Chelsea said: "It is time to draw a line under this incident."

Clattenburg missed four weekends of Premier League matches while the FA investigated Chelsea's complaint, but will return to referee Norwich's match at Southampton on Wednesday.

The FA cleared him last week of using "inappropriate language" towards Mikel in Chelsea's home defeat by Manchester United on 28 October following claims by Blues midfielder Ramires.

In Tuesday's joint statement, Chelsea insisted they had been duty bound to report the allegation to the FA.

"The referees accept that, given Chelsea FC had received a good faith claim from one of their employees, the club had an obligation under FA rules to report the allegation," the statement read.

However, Chelsea acknowledged that making the allegations public immediately after the game led to unwelcome press attention towards Clattenburg and his family.

"The club regrets not having given more consideration before issuing a statement on the evening of Sunday, 28 October," the statement continued. The club also regrets the subsequent impact the intense media scrutiny had on Mark Clattenburg and his family."

The meeting between PGMOL, the Premier League and Chelsea took place on Monday at England's National Football Centre, St George's Park.

PGMOL were represented by general manager Mike Riley and all 16 top-flight referees, the Premier League by chief executive Richard Scudamore and Chelsea FC by club chairman Bruce Buck.

Referees' union Prospect welcomed the joint statement and said the use of the word "regrets" was "tantamount to, and accepted by Mark and the Select Group [of referees], as an apology".

"Importantly the statement also refers to Chelsea's willingness to welcome Mark back to Stamford Bridge," Prospect continued.

"This was an important move forward in confirming Chelsea's recognition of Mark's integrity and impartiality."

The 37-year-old always denied the charges and the Metropolitan Police dropped its own inquiry earlier this month.

Clattenburg admitted that he feared that the allegations could have brought an end to his career as a referee.

"To know you were innocent of something but that there was the opportunity for it to wreck your career was truly frightening," he said in a statement after being cleared by the FA.

Upon clearing Clattenburg, the FA charged Mikel with misconduct following his involvement in the incident.

Chelsea have indicated he will not deny the charge but will request a hearing to "explain the mitigating circumstances".

Some people obviously don't get what a "joint statement" is?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 28, 2012, 11:23:39 AM
Zzzzz

Orangeman- Did United regret, or apologise to Sam Bethnall?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Bingo on November 28, 2012, 11:58:57 AM
If Chelsea, as reported, have engaged with Clattenburg and he is happy the matter is closed and it is very likely that he has therefore received a personal or private apology, then fair enough move on.

I always think that a public apology is to keep other people happy rather than the agrieved. Its more meaningful if you do it face to face or over a call. Easy to do it in public and not mean it.

Case closed, move on.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: imtommygunn on November 28, 2012, 12:14:20 PM
I don't know enough about this case but was it a misunderstanding or was there maliciousness in it?

If things were made up then the person that made them up should be punished. If they weren't then fair enough move on but I would see it as important that this kind of thing doesn't happen again. This isn't good in general for Clattenburg. While he is cleared some people have a habit of branding people and to some degree he may suffer that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: angermanagement on November 28, 2012, 12:24:02 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 22, 2012, 09:54:54 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 22, 2012, 09:52:13 AM
I'd say the most important thing (or what RA and Chelsea fans hope) for Rafa is to get Torres working.

The problem is, is that this is 'get Torres working' Version IV.

I always wonder how detailed the medical was the day that transfer was rushed through. I'd prefer to give Sturridge the chance he never has got.

One for the conspiracy theorists.

http://en-prosa.tumblr.com/post/36326276870/today-i-gathered-some-facts-about-fernandos
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ludermor on November 28, 2012, 12:45:51 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 28, 2012, 11:23:39 AM
Zzzzz

Orangeman- Did United regret, or apologise to Sam Bethnall?
Whataboutery at its finest.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on November 28, 2012, 01:42:54 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 28, 2012, 11:58:57 AM
If Chelsea, as reported, have engaged with Clattenburg and he is happy the matter is closed and it is very likely that he has therefore received a personal or private apology, then fair enough move on.

I always think that a public apology is to keep other people happy rather than the agrieved. Its more meaningful if you do it face to face or over a call. Easy to do it in public and not mean it.

Case closed, move on.

If they were happy to go public with the accusations then ......
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 28, 2012, 05:12:11 PM
Quote from: ludermor on November 28, 2012, 12:45:51 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 28, 2012, 11:23:39 AM
Zzzzz

Orangeman- Did United regret, or apologise to Sam Bethnall?
Whataboutery at its finest.

Say it is then.

Still doesn't help me understand people's thirst for Chelsea to say 'sorry' in public, as opposed to United's treatment of Sam Bethnal. Can you explain it?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Lecale2 on November 28, 2012, 09:25:47 PM
Who is Sam Bethnal?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 28, 2012, 09:47:21 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on November 28, 2012, 09:25:47 PM
Who is Sam Bethnal?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/3569115/Manchester-Uniteds-Patrice-Evra-banned-for-four-matches-over-Chelsea-altercation-Football.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/3569115/Manchester-Uniteds-Patrice-Evra-banned-for-four-matches-over-Chelsea-altercation-Football.html)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Aaron Boone on November 28, 2012, 11:42:33 PM
2 out of 6 pts for Benitez, no losses Rafa. Defence is sound for my fantasy team. Sam Bethnall solid in midfield when he came on.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: johnneycool on November 29, 2012, 04:37:59 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on November 28, 2012, 11:42:33 PM
2 out of 6 pts for Benitez, no losses Rafa. Defence is sound for my fantasy team. Sam Bethnall solid in midfield when he came on.

Yeah,
  I heard Sam covered every blade of grass.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: StGallsGAA on November 29, 2012, 09:57:42 PM
QuoteStill doesn't help me understand people's thirst for Chelsea to say 'sorry' in public, as opposed to United's treatment of Sam Bethnal. Can you explain it?

The groundsman was the one who abused Evra or did you miss that point?  Whilst the racist element may not have been proven as no-one else was close enough to overhear what was said, Bethell behaving like a tr**p was never in doubt.

Chelsea were found to have failed in their responsibility to ensure that their employee (Bethell) conducted himself in an orderly fashion and refrained from abusive and provocative conduct and language.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 30, 2012, 01:56:32 AM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on November 29, 2012, 09:57:42 PM
QuoteStill doesn't help me understand people's thirst for Chelsea to say 'sorry' in public, as opposed to United's treatment of Sam Bethnal. Can you explain it?

The groundsman was the one who abused Evra or did you miss that point?  Whilst the racist element may not have been proven as no-one else was close enough to overhear what was said, Bethell behaving like a tr**p was never in doubt.

Chelsea were found to have failed in their responsibility to ensure that their employee (Bethell) conducted himself in an orderly fashion and refrained from abusive and provocative conduct and language.

You're wrong on a few things there, but in the main.

Phelan (I think) accused Bethell of a racist remark. The FA said he didn't.
Ramires accused Clattenburg of a racist remark. The FA said he didn't.

'Chelsea must apologize' they say.
United... well it appears that they have different rules.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on December 01, 2012, 02:35:30 PM
Benitez....2012 version of The Damned United? Chelsea all over them in the first half, trying to give the ball to the waste of space that is Torres.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 01, 2012, 02:38:50 PM
Rafa Benitez should sell Torres and start Sam Bethnall.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Benitez Out!!
Post by: AQMP on December 01, 2012, 02:41:00 PM
Benitez and Torres will both be gone by the end of the transfer window.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on December 01, 2012, 03:14:19 PM
I'm delighted for Rafa. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Jonah on December 01, 2012, 03:23:21 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on December 01, 2012, 03:14:19 PM
I'm delighted for Rafa. ;D

I was right,you are 12.

The thing is and the point you seem to be missing is I'm pretty sure Rafa really doesn't care about Chelsea. He is getting a fortune in wages to stay until the end of the year,no matter what happens he knows he won't be there next season.
I'd say he is a happy man as it's win win for him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 01, 2012, 06:03:51 PM
it's obvious no-one wants Rafa there - the players or the fans







Why aren't you watching the United game EC?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ONeill on December 01, 2012, 11:46:17 PM
You have to laugh at Chelsea fans wanting 'their Chelsea back'. A racist, extremist, pro-Nazi mid-table club with an admirable ability to raise their head every 20 years. Why like? Stick with the Russian.

Better than the Chelsea who sang 'sieg heil' at every opportunity or told Avram Grant to go get lost
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on December 02, 2012, 02:39:58 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 01, 2012, 11:46:17 PM
You have to laugh at Chelsea fans wanting 'their Chelsea back'. A racist, extremist, pro-Nazi mid-table club with an admirable ability to raise their head every 20 years. Why like? Stick with the Russian.

Better than the Chelsea who sang 'sieg heil' at every opportunity or told Avram Grant to go get lost

Bin Laden was a Gooner.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ONeill on December 02, 2012, 04:06:13 PM
He was a fan of the famous Graham defence.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 03, 2012, 03:42:06 AM
Read that about Grant.

The thing is, is that Neil Ashton is reporting it, and he has been spot on with a lot of things over the past few weeks.

Scary!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on December 03, 2012, 10:26:57 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 02, 2012, 04:06:13 PM
He was a fan of the famous Graham defence.

Yes, successful for a long time but let him down in the end.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on December 03, 2012, 11:17:23 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 03, 2012, 03:42:06 AM
Read that about Grant.

The thing is, is that Neil Ashton is reporting it, and he has been spot on with a lot of things over the past few weeks.

Scary!!

Read that he is looking to bring him in to 'advise' Rafa. LOL that should go well.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 05, 2012, 10:58:34 PM
We could make history here. We could have the Champions League, Europa League and the World Club Cup all in the cabinet at the one time.

Rafa's a genius!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on December 06, 2012, 09:00:04 AM
You can cut and dice the stats about points, goals scored etc but Chelsea were clearly the third best team in that group.  No complaints.  BTW while I doubt they will win the CL Shakhtar Donetsk could surprise a few "big" teams.

Well done to Celtic too.  I'm sure most observers thought they would finish bottom of that group when the draw was made.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 06, 2012, 01:20:02 PM
Quote from: AQMP on December 06, 2012, 09:00:04 AM
You can cut and dice the stats about points, goals scored etc but Chelsea were clearly the third best team in that group.  No complaints.  BTW while I doubt they will win the CL Shakhtar Donetsk could surprise a few "big" teams.

Well done to Celtic too.  I'm sure most observers thought they would finish bottom of that group when the draw was made.

I thought that too given their performances against Chelsea as they were superb in those games. However other results e.g. last night suggest that maybe they aren't as strong as I first thought.
The other problem they have is that they've no game for 2-3 months, so their last 16 game will be a cold start.

Again though as you say, it wouldn't surprise me in the least to see them and Juve make a bit more progress.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on December 23, 2012, 05:44:21 PM
Benitez must stay.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 23, 2012, 05:55:49 PM
Quote from: AQMP on December 23, 2012, 05:44:21 PM
Benitez must stay.
(http://www.theasiankop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Rafa-We-Trust.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 23, 2012, 06:14:50 PM
Benitez must be wondering how Liverpool lost at home to that Aston Villa side?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on December 23, 2012, 07:38:51 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 23, 2012, 06:14:50 PM
Benitez must be wondering how Liverpool lost at home to that Aston Villa side?


Shows how bad they really are.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Gazzler on December 23, 2012, 09:43:21 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on December 23, 2012, 07:38:51 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 23, 2012, 06:14:50 PM
Benitez must be wondering how Liverpool lost at home to that Aston Villa side?


Shows how bad they really are.

Poor result against the Swans but all you care about is coming onto a Chelsea thread to have a dig at Liverpool  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Minder on December 30, 2012, 03:26:09 PM
RAFA OUT
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: imtommygunn on December 30, 2012, 03:31:21 PM
Chelsea are a good side. I think if they get a good striker they could win the league. Torres has completely lost it for too long. Solid defense and very creative midfield.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: SHEEDY on December 30, 2012, 03:42:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 30, 2012, 03:31:21 PM
Chelsea are a good side. I think if they get a good striker they could win the league. Torres has completely lost it for too long. Solid defense and very creative midfield.
chelsea are a really good side and if they get demba ba in they could give utd a challenge for the title.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 30, 2012, 04:08:59 PM
Chelsea should challenge for the title and will improve on last seasons sixth place finish.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: The Worker on December 30, 2012, 04:13:19 PM
If rafa was in since the summer Chelsea would be a few points clear at this stage.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on December 30, 2012, 06:38:57 PM
Quote from: The Worker on December 30, 2012, 04:13:19 PM
If rafa was in since the summer Chelsea would be a few points clear at this stage.

;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: johnneycool on December 31, 2012, 01:36:39 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 30, 2012, 04:08:59 PM
Chelsea should challenge for the title and will improve on last seasons sixth place finish.

you get the impression from Rafa than any transfers in or out in the next month will have nothing to do with him, he jsut gets the team prepared for matches.

Keeping the seat warm till june for Pep.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: All of a Sludden on January 01, 2013, 09:44:42 PM
JT's 2012  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rO-mwQIy_8U
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 02, 2013, 09:41:27 PM
One of Rafa Benitez worst ever results and is Harry Redknapp going to pull off the great escape?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on January 02, 2013, 09:44:24 PM
Shocking result but still think QPR will go down.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: extra time on January 02, 2013, 09:54:28 PM
thats what happens when you disrespect your neighbours in alocal derby. You get shafted!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: laoislad on January 02, 2013, 09:55:22 PM
Upset my bet big time. Wouldn't say I'm the only one either.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ONeill on January 03, 2013, 12:53:49 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/58671_516911264998604_1066334346_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on January 03, 2013, 09:34:06 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on December 30, 2012, 06:38:57 PM
Quote from: The Worker on December 30, 2012, 04:13:19 PM
If rafa was in since the summer Chelsea would be a few points clear at this stage.

;D

Seems even more stupid now. ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on January 03, 2013, 10:06:38 AM
Benitez Out!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on January 04, 2013, 12:08:19 PM
Sky Sports News

Chelsea have completed the signing of Demba Ba on a three-and-a-half-year deal for an undisclosed fee.

No brainer with such a rumoured low transfer fee
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: johnneycool on January 04, 2013, 01:13:02 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 04, 2013, 12:08:19 PM
Sky Sports News

Chelsea have completed the signing of Demba Ba on a three-and-a-half-year deal for an undisclosed fee.

No brainer with such a rumoured low transfer fee

He's a gammy knee allegedly
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 04, 2013, 02:49:42 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 04, 2013, 12:08:19 PM
Sky Sports News

Chelsea have completed the signing of Demba Ba on a three-and-a-half-year deal for an undisclosed fee.

No brainer with such a rumoured low transfer fee

I imagine it's undisclosed because of agents fees and added extras. Whole package is probably a lot more than people think. probably worth it though providing his knee holds up.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on January 04, 2013, 04:34:19 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 04, 2013, 02:49:42 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 04, 2013, 12:08:19 PM
Sky Sports News

Chelsea have completed the signing of Demba Ba on a three-and-a-half-year deal for an undisclosed fee.

No brainer with such a rumoured low transfer fee

I imagine it's undisclosed because of agents fees and added extras. Whole package is probably a lot more than people think. probably worth it though providing his knee holds up.

Do you think Liverpool should have went for him GBB?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: trileacman on January 04, 2013, 05:10:21 PM
How much is an undisclosed fee?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on January 05, 2013, 05:23:41 PM
In Rafa We Trust ???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: laoislad on January 23, 2013, 09:29:52 PM
Hazard sent off for kicking a ball boy.!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: gerrykeegan on January 23, 2013, 09:30:08 PM
Hazard loses plot.  Long ban awaits.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: thebigfella on January 23, 2013, 09:31:26 PM
Brilliant stuff by Hazard tonight breaking the ball boy's ribs.....  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Declan on January 23, 2013, 09:32:25 PM
Jaysus that was unreal. What was he thinking?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: theticklemister on January 23, 2013, 09:32:47 PM
Dunno did he kick the ball??? f**king soccer louts , pretending they were shot.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: laoislad on January 23, 2013, 09:34:02 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on January 23, 2013, 09:30:08 PM
Hazard loses plot.  Long ban awaits.

Its a Hazardous job doing ball boy.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2013, 09:34:25 PM
Occupational Hazard
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: laoislad on January 23, 2013, 09:36:24 PM
(http://i.minus.com/iCSwHE65FPwjz.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: orangeman on January 23, 2013, 09:38:23 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 23, 2013, 09:29:52 PM
Hazard sent off for kicking a ball boy.!!

Eden worse, Chelsea on their way out.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Main Street on January 23, 2013, 09:42:33 PM
They should have brought that ball boy off on a stretcher, right around the the pitch.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on January 23, 2013, 09:44:05 PM
Have you been hit by a Hazard at work that wasn't your fault? You could be entitled to compensation.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 23, 2013, 09:46:39 PM
Hazard guess Rafa won't be Chelsea manager next season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on January 23, 2013, 09:47:39 PM
To be fair to Hazard, Torres would have probably missed the ball boy.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 23, 2013, 09:50:51 PM
Typical welsh lying on the ball, not releasing..
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 23, 2013, 09:53:02 PM
Ballboy behaved like a tr**p. Deserved a boot.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: laoislad on January 23, 2013, 09:54:24 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 23, 2013, 09:53:02 PM
Ballboy behaved like a tr**p. Deserved a boot.

He could have been killed.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: gerrykeegan on January 23, 2013, 09:58:34 PM
He has 17,000 twitter followers, I wonder how many are new? He even tweeted 4 hours ago he was going to time waste!

I just checked back after posting that message and he now has 21k
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: laoislad on January 23, 2013, 10:00:01 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on January 23, 2013, 09:58:34 PM
He has 17,000 twitter followers, I wonder how many are new? He even tweeted 4 hours ago he was going to time waste!
He only had 10k ten mins ago!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on January 23, 2013, 10:08:53 PM
Bad Craic.  Terry's influence working fast.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: GAA_Talk on January 23, 2013, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 23, 2013, 10:00:01 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on January 23, 2013, 09:58:34 PM
He has 17,000 twitter followers, I wonder how many are new? He even tweeted 4 hours ago he was going to time waste!
He only had 10k ten mins ago!

How did he have so many before tonight? is he a famous ball bag?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 23, 2013, 10:13:43 PM
Quote from: GAA_Talk on January 23, 2013, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 23, 2013, 10:00:01 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on January 23, 2013, 09:58:34 PM
He has 17,000 twitter followers, I wonder how many are new? He even tweeted 4 hours ago he was going to time waste!
He only had 10k ten mins ago!

How did he have so many before tonight? is he a famous ball bag?
Think he had a few hundred. He is the son of one of the club directors.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: GAA_Talk on January 23, 2013, 10:19:13 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 23, 2013, 10:13:43 PM
Quote from: GAA_Talk on January 23, 2013, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 23, 2013, 10:00:01 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on January 23, 2013, 09:58:34 PM
He has 17,000 twitter followers, I wonder how many are new? He even tweeted 4 hours ago he was going to time waste!
He only had 10k ten mins ago!

How did he have so many before tonight? is he a famous ball bag?
Think he had a few hundred. He is the son of one of the club directors.

Just seen it there. Decent enough wee punt he received. Shouldn't have been lying on the ball but then didn't deserve a kick to the ribs from a professional footballer. I'm sure an apology in the form of currency will ensure forgiveness.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2013, 10:24:59 PM
Did he get a kick to the ribs?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: gerrykeegan on January 23, 2013, 10:25:24 PM
Paddy Power ‏@paddypower
Hazard kicked the ball boy for keeping the ball. Torres would've missed him, Cole would've shot him and Terry would have shagged his mother!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Jonah on January 23, 2013, 10:25:55 PM
Quote
(http://i.minus.com/iCSwHE65FPwjz.gif)

Crazy from Hazard. You can't going kicking kids no matter what the kid done.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: rodney trotter on January 23, 2013, 10:30:08 PM
Quote from: Jonah on January 23, 2013, 10:25:55 PM
Quote
(http://i.minus.com/iCSwHE65FPwjz.gif)

Crazy from Hazard. You can't going kicking kids no matter what the kid done.

Was he hanging around with Barton, big ban on the cards for that. Head case.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 23, 2013, 10:35:34 PM
What was the little p***k diving on the ball for anyway? Hazard was way out line but got zero sympathy for the ball boy. 30sec later he looking round him  with f**k all wrong with him, bad enough diving and playacting all over the pitch without it off the pitch. He get a game for Tyrone lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: orangeman on January 23, 2013, 10:36:59 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on January 23, 2013, 10:25:24 PM
Paddy Power ‏@paddypower
Hazard kicked the ball boy for keeping the ball. Torres would've missed him, Cole would've shot him and Terry would have shagged his mother!


:)


Quality
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on January 23, 2013, 10:40:33 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 23, 2013, 09:50:51 PM
Typical welsh lying on the ball, not releasing..

Clearly on the wrong side, deserved clearing out, Hazard on his feet the whole time, should have been a penalty to Chelsea.  We wuz robbed.  Rafa in out in out in or maybe out.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Denn Forever on January 23, 2013, 10:44:20 PM
Michael Laudrup for Chelsea?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Orior on January 23, 2013, 10:44:36 PM
I cant see nuffin
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on January 23, 2013, 10:45:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 23, 2013, 10:44:36 PM
I cant see nuffin

Feetbags
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 09:21:57 AM
Jeez, looking at yer man rolling around like he had been shot. What an example to set, won't someone PLEASE think of the childr . . . oh.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 24, 2013, 09:42:37 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on January 23, 2013, 10:08:53 PM
Bad Craic.  Terry's influence working fast.

Must be Terry's influence on Rio at the England get together that caused Ferdinand to go around kicking female stewards...


Worst thing about the Hazard incident. It hides the totally ineptness of Rafa Benitez. Needing goals and your first sub is a centre half for a centre half, and the later a left back for a left back.

Just thinking, did Rafa instigate the Hazard incident to take the headlines from the result? That's what Fergis does isn't it. F***ing genius that Benitez.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: nrico2006 on January 24, 2013, 09:46:22 AM
Hazard kicked the ball from under the fella, if he accidently got connected with then its his own fault for acting the tr**p in the first place.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Minder on January 24, 2013, 09:51:02 AM
What the f**k is a 17 year old doing being a ball boy anyway, should he not be sitting in his boxer shorts playing his X Box or something at that time of night?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: muppet on January 24, 2013, 10:09:13 AM
Most of the posters here defending Hazard would be exploding in indignation if the person lying on the ball had been the goalkeeper of their beloved team. This was a ball boy, Hazard is a 'professional'.

Long ban ahead hopefully.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 10:15:54 AM
Quote from: muppet on January 24, 2013, 10:09:13 AM
Most of the posters here defending Hazard would be exploding in indignation if the person lying on the ball had been the goalkeeper of their beloved team. This was a ball boy, Hazard is a 'professional'.

Long ban ahead hopefully.

I wouldn't defend Hazard, just as I didn't defend Jamie Carragher when he threw that pound coin into the crowd at Highbury. But I hope the ball boy is the subject of ridicule throughout the globe, if not for lying on the ball then just for rolling around like a foreigner.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: muppet on January 24, 2013, 10:18:50 AM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 10:15:54 AM
Quote from: muppet on January 24, 2013, 10:09:13 AM
Most of the posters here defending Hazard would be exploding in indignation if the person lying on the ball had been the goalkeeper of their beloved team. This was a ball boy, Hazard is a 'professional'.

Long ban ahead hopefully.

I wouldn't defend Hazard, just as I didn't defend Jamie Carragher when he threw that pound coin into the crowd at Highbury. But I hope the ball boy is the subject of ridicule throughout the globe, if not for lying on the ball then just for rolling around like a foreigner Premier League Footballer.

Where he works, every week, watching, learning.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: magpie seanie on January 24, 2013, 10:19:17 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 24, 2013, 09:42:37 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on January 23, 2013, 10:08:53 PM
Bad Craic.  Terry's influence working fast.

Must be Terry's influence on Rio at the England get together that caused Ferdinand to go around kicking female stewards...


Worst thing about the Hazard incident. It hides the totally ineptness of Rafa Benitez. Needing goals and your first sub is a centre half for a centre half, and the later a left back for a left back.

Just thinking, did Rafa instigate the Hazard incident to take the headlines from the result? That's what Fergis does isn't it. F***ing genius that Benitez.

Jaysus you're in a bad way today.

Nothing can hide the complete ineptness of Benitez or more importantly the shady gobshite person that put him there. The biggest issue at Chelski is the owner but none of you want to admit it cos you're afraid it'll be back to the bad old days again. Imagine if he had let Mourinho run your club the way Ferguson is allowed run United (plus the cash)? He couldn't because it has to be about him. He is a disease on the game. Even the citeh owners who have pumped in ridiculous cash aren't close to being as public.

That is the long and short of it, nothing Rio or Fergie have allegedly done.

As for last nights incident of course the ballboy was wrong but there's no defending Hazard's actions. Can you imagine if Roy Keane or Eric Cantona did that? They'd be looking at 6 month bans. He'll get off lightly.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 24, 2013, 11:01:42 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 24, 2013, 10:19:17 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 24, 2013, 09:42:37 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on January 23, 2013, 10:08:53 PM
Bad Craic.  Terry's influence working fast.

Must be Terry's influence on Rio at the England get together that caused Ferdinand to go around kicking female stewards...


Worst thing about the Hazard incident. It hides the totally ineptness of Rafa Benitez. Needing goals and your first sub is a centre half for a centre half, and the later a left back for a left back.

Just thinking, did Rafa instigate the Hazard incident to take the headlines from the result? That's what Fergis does isn't it. F***ing genius that Benitez.

Jaysus you're in a bad way today.

Nothing can hide the complete ineptness of Benitez or more importantly the shady gobshite person that put him there. The biggest issue at Chelski is the owner but none of you want to admit it cos you're afraid it'll be back to the bad old days again. Imagine if he had let Mourinho run your club the way Ferguson is allowed run United (plus the cash)? He couldn't because it has to be about him. He is a disease on the game. Even the citeh owners who have pumped in ridiculous cash aren't close to being as public.

That is the long and short of it, nothing Rio or Fergie have allegedly done.

As for last nights incident of course the ballboy was wrong but there's no defending Hazard's actions. Can you imagine if Roy Keane or Eric Cantona did that? They'd be looking at 6 month bans. He'll get off lightly.

I am not arguing with most of that. The Chelsea fans have been singing re Abromovitch for weeks ('Is this what you want' etc), and he is ultimately responsible. Roman has made countless bad decisions over the 10 years he has been there, and again I agree that if Mourinho or Ancellotti had of remained in charge and given carte blanche a la Ferguson, Chelsea you'd imagine would've been a more stable operation. However I am not sure if José is a greater than 3-4 years sorta guy.

The bad old days you refer to must be the 80s, and 90s. Remember Chelsea were winning Euro trophies, qualifying for the CL, regularly in the top 6, and in one season came very close to winning the league, and all this in the 8-9 years before Roman. Admittedly the bulk before that was barren, but they were good days too, although in a different way. A lot of people think Chelsea came from nowhere!

Anyhow not defending Hazard, far from it. However I think he was silly as opposed to malicious. I don't think he was trying to kick the ball boy at all. The reaction has been predictably OTT.

Re the Fergie thing... that was a joke.

Re the Rio thing... it's definitely relevant. He kicked a female steward and there was not the same outrage, nor a ban.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 24, 2013, 11:06:10 AM
I meant to add, the problem re Roman and sacking managers is that, it usually works. A sacking is usually followed by a trophy. However that's not the way to do business.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Canalman on January 24, 2013, 11:26:27 AM
With regards to the sacking of managers regularly as far as I know this is fairly common on the continent and is beginning to creep into English football.Mark my words in 10 years this will be the norm in the Premiership (if and it is a big if the ponsi style the Premiership  is operating in at the moment doesn't engulf it before that). Ogligarchs (sic), Middle East royalty, tycoons, leveraged buyouts etc..................... it will all end in tears.

In fairness and as has been pointed out  on this board the continual turning around of managers in Chelsea has resulted in some amount of trophies.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Jonah on January 24, 2013, 12:40:50 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 10:15:54 AM
Quote from: muppet on January 24, 2013, 10:09:13 AM
Most of the posters here defending Hazard would be exploding in indignation if the person lying on the ball had been the goalkeeper of their beloved team. This was a ball boy, Hazard is a 'professional'.

Long ban ahead hopefully.

I wouldn't defend Hazard, just as I didn't defend Jamie Carragher when he threw that pound coin into the crowd at Highbury. But I hope the ball boy is the subject of ridicule throughout the globe, if not for lying on the ball then just for rolling around like a foreigner.

Really? A 17 year old kid?
In the age of cyberbullying and kids committing suicide for being bullied you want a 17 year old kid to be ridiculed across the world?
What about the nurse who committed suicide for being on the end of a prank phone call?
What if it was your own son?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Orior on January 24, 2013, 12:49:29 PM
I've always admired the ball boys (no not that way!) for their 'professionalism' in getting the ball back quickly for opposing teams. This is the first incident I've ever seen where a wee sc**bag has been employed. He should have stepped away as soon as he saw Hazard.

IMHO Hazard should not be punished.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 12:51:02 PM
Quote from: Jonah on January 24, 2013, 12:40:50 PM
Really? A 17 year old kid?
In the age of cyberbullying and kids committing suicide for being bullied you want a 17 year old kid to be ridiculed across the world?
What about the nurse who committed suicide for being on the end of a prank phone call?
What if it was your own son?

If it were my own son, I'd be asking him why the one job he had to do on the night he chose not to do. Then the rolling around like he had been beaten with a baseball bat. I'd be absolutely mortified by his behaviour. And please spare me the cyber-bullying accusation. By that logic, no one who does something ridiculous in public - on telly, for God's sake! - should ever be ridiculed for fear they might top themselves. Can you see what's wrong there?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2013, 12:51:55 PM
Quote from: Jonah on January 24, 2013, 12:40:50 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 10:15:54 AM
Quote from: muppet on January 24, 2013, 10:09:13 AM
Most of the posters here defending Hazard would be exploding in indignation if the person lying on the ball had been the goalkeeper of their beloved team. This was a ball boy, Hazard is a 'professional'.

Long ban ahead hopefully.

I wouldn't defend Hazard, just as I didn't defend Jamie Carragher when he threw that pound coin into the crowd at Highbury. But I hope the ball boy is the subject of ridicule throughout the globe, if not for lying on the ball then just for rolling around like a foreigner.

Really? A 17 year old kid?
In the age of cyberbullying and kids committing suicide for being bullied you want a 17 year old kid to be ridiculed across the world?
What about the nurse who committed suicide for being on the end of a prank phone call?
What if it was your own son?

If it were my own son I'd hit him a slap for acting like that

The nurse wasn't actually on the end of the prank call, though she was involved in taking the information from someone else I think

By diving on the ball and acting like that he'll get the piss taken out of him anyways, just like the other footballers who dive throughout the games, not too many taking their own lives, these 'ballboys' are usually apprentices at the club and most times go on to have a very good life, should they make it in the professional game.

I'm not defending the guy who kicked him by the way, silly thing to do
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Jonah on January 24, 2013, 12:56:28 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 12:51:02 PM
Quote from: Jonah on January 24, 2013, 12:40:50 PM
Really? A 17 year old kid?
In the age of cyberbullying and kids committing suicide for being bullied you want a 17 year old kid to be ridiculed across the world?
What about the nurse who committed suicide for being on the end of a prank phone call?
What if it was your own son?

If it were my own son, I'd be asking him why the one job he had to do on the night he chose not to do. Then the rolling around like he had been beaten with a baseball bat. I'd be absolutely mortified by his behaviour. And please spare me the cyber-bullying accusation. By that logic, no one who does something ridiculous in public - on telly, for God's sake! - should ever be ridiculed for fear they might top themselves. Can you see what's wrong there?

Can you see what's wrong by wanting a 17 year old kid to be ridiculed across the globe?
Maybe you are only a kid yourself I don't know but I think what you said is idiotic.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 12:57:14 PM
Quote from: Jonah on January 24, 2013, 12:56:28 PM
Can you see what's wrong by wanting a 17 year old kid to be ridiculed across the globe?

So when he turns 18 he's a man and it's okay? He made his bed, he'll have to lie in it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2013, 12:58:22 PM
Quote from: Jonah on January 24, 2013, 12:56:28 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 12:51:02 PM
Quote from: Jonah on January 24, 2013, 12:40:50 PM
Really? A 17 year old kid?
In the age of cyberbullying and kids committing suicide for being bullied you want a 17 year old kid to be ridiculed across the world?
What about the nurse who committed suicide for being on the end of a prank phone call?
What if it was your own son?

If it were my own son, I'd be asking him why the one job he had to do on the night he chose not to do. Then the rolling around like he had been beaten with a baseball bat. I'd be absolutely mortified by his behaviour. And please spare me the cyber-bullying accusation. By that logic, no one who does something ridiculous in public - on telly, for God's sake! - should ever be ridiculed for fear they might top themselves. Can you see what's wrong there?

Can you see what's wrong by wanting a 17 year old kid to be ridiculed across the globe?

Of course it's wrong but his actions will only create some sort of abuse, saying he's going to kill himself is silly though
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 24, 2013, 01:01:05 PM
The young lad was stupid and the reality is that he will be a 15 minute celebrity, will be on some rubbish like Soccer AM or something like that and will drift off into the anonymity of his previous life.  Hazard was stupid, he should have just lifted him up off that ball or pushed him off it but lets face it you're in the heat of the moment chasing a gsme and a wee p***k does this and the red mist falls.  He should get a 6-8 match ban but that ball 'boy' should be brought to task by the club and punished.

Just as well it wasn't Luis Saurez, he would be shot at dawn!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Jonah on January 24, 2013, 01:02:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2013, 12:58:22 PM
Quote from: Jonah on January 24, 2013, 12:56:28 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 12:51:02 PM
Quote from: Jonah on January 24, 2013, 12:40:50 PM
Really? A 17 year old kid?
In the age of cyberbullying and kids committing suicide for being bullied you want a 17 year old kid to be ridiculed across the world?
What about the nurse who committed suicide for being on the end of a prank phone call?
What if it was your own son?

If it were my own son, I'd be asking him why the one job he had to do on the night he chose not to do. Then the rolling around like he had been beaten with a baseball bat. I'd be absolutely mortified by his behaviour. And please spare me the cyber-bullying accusation. By that logic, no one who does something ridiculous in public - on telly, for God's sake! - should ever be ridiculed for fear they might top themselves. Can you see what's wrong there?

Can you see what's wrong by wanting a 17 year old kid to be ridiculed across the globe?

Of course it's wrong but his actions will only create some sort of abuse, saying he's going to kill himself is silly though
I didn't say he was going to kill himself.
Say what you want but to wish a 17 year old kid to be ridiculed across the world is an idiotic comment.
Yes he was foolish to do what he did and if he was my son I'd give him a good kick up the hole.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 01:07:01 PM
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Atticus_Finch on January 24, 2013, 01:09:48 PM
In fairness to the kid at least he didn't go down the line of assault which I wouldn't have ruled out last night.  He was interviewed by police after the game and said he had no injuries and didn't want to press the matter any further.

From what I understand he ended up in the Chelsea dressing room.  Hazard apologised to him and he did likewise for holidng on to the ball.

Whether the above event would have taken place if the kid's father wasn't a Swansea director who happened to own the hotel Chelsea were staying at ... I don't know.

I'm sure the kid is happy enough, he's become a "celeb" over night and will be on one of those reality tv shows next ... Celeb Big Brother, I'm a Celebrity Get me Out of Here ..... or even that ridiculous reality diving show called "Splash" which I believe quite a few posters on this forum watch  ???  The things lads will do to keep them on the straight and narrow during January ...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 01:16:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 24, 2013, 01:05:45 PM
A 17 year old wastes about 5 seconds of time - a wee sc**bag.
A professional footballer throws a kick at a 17 year old on the ground - he did no wrong.

WTF are some of you boys on?

He's there to make sure no time is wasted and the rolling around in agony only compounded his idiocy:

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02460/charlie-morgan_a_2460857b.jpg)

I think the ref was dead right to send off Hazard - he would have done the same had it been a player who he had kicked - and he should get a hefty ban.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: seafoid on January 24, 2013, 02:02:02 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 01:16:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 24, 2013, 01:05:45 PM
A 17 year old wastes about 5 seconds of time - a wee sc**bag.
A professional footballer throws a kick at a 17 year old on the ground - he did no wrong.

WTF are some of you boys on?

He's there to make sure no time is wasted and the rolling around in agony only compounded his idiocy:

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02460/charlie-morgan_a_2460857b.jpg)

I think the ref was dead right to send off Hazard - he would have done the same had it been a player who he had kicked - and he should get a hefty ban.

He was timewasting. Why did he lie on the ball?
Hazard was trying to get the game going again.

I thought it was unfair to send him off. It wasn't a premeditated foul or anything.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: spuds on January 24, 2013, 02:12:44 PM
My pity is with Hazard TBH. He actually stub kicked the ball from under the little scrote releasing the ball, not pulled like he was Paul Durcan taking a kick out. The media will lap this up. Talk here of the 17 year old in danger of committing suicide are ridiculous.

If this happened during a kick about in your local field with a young lad lying over the ball there would be no further comment. Ball boys, you have been warned.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on January 24, 2013, 02:13:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 24, 2013, 02:02:02 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 01:16:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 24, 2013, 01:05:45 PM
A 17 year old wastes about 5 seconds of time - a wee sc**bag.
A professional footballer throws a kick at a 17 year old on the ground - he did no wrong.

WTF are some of you boys on?

He's there to make sure no time is wasted and the rolling around in agony only compounded his idiocy:

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02460/charlie-morgan_a_2460857b.jpg)

I think the ref was dead right to send off Hazard - he would have done the same had it been a player who he had kicked - and he should get a hefty ban.

He was timewasting. Why did he lie on the ball?
Hazard was trying to get the game going again.

I thought it was unfair to send him off. It wasn't a premeditated foul or anything.
So all red cards have to be premeditated? WTF,,,,,
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2013, 02:18:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 24, 2013, 01:05:45 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 24, 2013, 12:49:29 PM
I've always admired the ball boys (no not that way!) for their 'professionalism' in getting the ball back quickly for opposing teams. This is the first incident I've ever seen where a wee sc**bag has been employed. He should have stepped away as soon as he saw Hazard.

IMHO Hazard should not be punished.
The mind boggles.

A 17 year old wastes about 5 seconds of time - a wee sc**bag.
A professional footballer throws a kick at a 17 year old on the ground - he did no wrong.

WTF are some of you boys on?

I've seen players (and certain managers) on the hurling field have an epileptic fit when someone wastes 5 seconds of time late on in a game
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2013, 02:18:41 PM
I've seen players (and certain managers) on the hurling field have an epileptic fit when someone wastes 5 seconds of time late on in a game

And they'll know all about it when they play Under-14's next year!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: seafoid on January 24, 2013, 02:23:13 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 24, 2013, 02:13:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 24, 2013, 02:02:02 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 01:16:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 24, 2013, 01:05:45 PM
A 17 year old wastes about 5 seconds of time - a wee sc**bag.
A professional footballer throws a kick at a 17 year old on the ground - he did no wrong.

WTF are some of you boys on?

He's there to make sure no time is wasted and the rolling around in agony only compounded his idiocy:

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02460/charlie-morgan_a_2460857b.jpg)

I think the ref was dead right to send off Hazard - he would have done the same had it been a player who he had kicked - and he should get a hefty ban.

He was timewasting. Why did he lie on the ball?
Hazard was trying to get the game going again.

I thought it was unfair to send him off. It wasn't a premeditated foul or anything.
So all red cards have to be premeditated? WTF,,,,,

Sending him off was a joke. If the BB hadn't started arsing around nothing would have happened. Chelski needed 2 goals and it was 72 minutes gone and he goes ahead and does something provocative like that.
What Hazard did had no impact on the game. Most people would do the same in that position. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on January 24, 2013, 02:32:29 PM
It would have been frustrating for all the Chelsea players but you can't go kicking a ballboy in the ribs ( all be it unintentionally) even if he is acting the scrote.
I find the most amazing thing about all this is that so many people think the right way to react to someone annoying you a bit and not giving a ball back quick enough is to boot them in the ribs.

Its not as if Hazard had a good look down for the ball where exactly it was, he just went, right...its down there somewhere, so may as well throw the boot in.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: tommysmith on January 24, 2013, 02:35:56 PM
Some people need to cop on it was the right decision to send him off.

Hazard is there to play football and should not be putting his hands or feet near a ball boy no matter what is going on.

So what if the ball boy was time wasting its up to the ref to add on the time.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2013, 02:37:44 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 24, 2013, 02:32:29 PM
It would have been frustrating for all the Chelsea players but you can't go kicking a ballboy in the ribs ( all be it unintentionally) even if he is acting the scrote.
I find the most amazing thing about all this is that so many people think the right way to react to someone annoying you a bit and not giving a ball back quick enough is to boot them in the ribs.

Its not as if Hazard had a good look down for the ball where exactly it was, he just went, right...its down there somewhere, so may as well throw the boot in.

He'll not do it again, that's for sure. Though you are right ya can't be kicking 17 year olds lads in the ribs, a good kick in the balls would have made him move quicker :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: magpie seanie on January 24, 2013, 03:02:38 PM
Eric was right to kick your man and should sue the FA for damages for his 9 month (yes - month, not game) ban.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: nrico2006 on January 24, 2013, 03:39:28 PM
Quote from: spuds on January 24, 2013, 02:12:44 PM
My pity is with Hazard TBH. He actually stub kicked the ball from under the little scrote releasing the ball, not pulled like he was Paul Durcan taking a kick out. The media will lap this up. Talk here of the 17 year old in danger of committing suicide are ridiculous.

If this happened during a kick about in your local field with a young lad lying over the ball there would be no further comment. Ball boys, you have been warned.

Spot on.  It was a disgrace that he was sent off.  If someone lifted something belonging to you would you attempt to get it back or wait until you phoned the police and let them try and catch the culprit?  If you in fact did try and get it back and end up having to wrestle with the fella then should you be arrested and convicted of affray/assault?  Our society in general is going down the pan with regards to real culprits being perceived as victims and vice versa.  The scenario last night was caused by the ball boy, Hazard didn't set out to do anything malicious and from seeing the clip its clear that he was simply trying to get the ball back by toe poking it from under the ball boy, something that most of us have done at some stage to a brother/friend etc when playing football/soccer.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: J70 on January 24, 2013, 03:39:41 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 24, 2013, 02:02:02 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 01:16:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 24, 2013, 01:05:45 PM
A 17 year old wastes about 5 seconds of time - a wee sc**bag.
A professional footballer throws a kick at a 17 year old on the ground - he did no wrong.

WTF are some of you boys on?

He's there to make sure no time is wasted and the rolling around in agony only compounded his idiocy:

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02460/charlie-morgan_a_2460857b.jpg)

I think the ref was dead right to send off Hazard - he would have done the same had it been a player who he had kicked - and he should get a hefty ban.

He was timewasting. Why did he lie on the ball?
Hazard was trying to get the game going again.

I thought it was unfair to send him off. It wasn't a premeditated foul or anything.
Are you mad Seafoid? Hazard has to get a severe punishment for this. I'm sure Cantona's karate kick wasn't premeditated either, and regardless of the fact that the guy he attacked was a sc**bag and totally undeserving of sympathy, Cantona correctly received a very lengthy ban. Players kicking ballboys (or anyone) cannot be tolerated. It doesn't matter if he was trying to kick the ball out
- he could have injured him severely. Whether or not the ballboy was misbehaving is a separate issue and should be dealt with separately and appropriately. If you want to work in any profession, there are certain rules and expectations regarding behaviour that have to be met.
BTW I'm not saying that what Hazard did was comparable to Cantona in terms of the grossness of the misconduct.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on January 24, 2013, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 24, 2013, 03:52:13 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 24, 2013, 03:39:28 PM
Quote from: spuds on January 24, 2013, 02:12:44 PM
My pity is with Hazard TBH. He actually stub kicked the ball from under the little scrote releasing the ball, not pulled like he was Paul Durcan taking a kick out. The media will lap this up. Talk here of the 17 year old in danger of committing suicide are ridiculous.

If this happened during a kick about in your local field with a young lad lying over the ball there would be no further comment. Ball boys, you have been warned.

Spot on.  It was a disgrace that he was sent off.  If someone lifted something belonging to you would you attempt to get it back or wait until you phoned the police and let them try and catch the culprit?  If you in fact did try and get it back and end up having to wrestle with the fella then should you be arrested and convicted of affray/assault?  Our society in general is going down the pan with regards to real culprits being perceived as victims and vice versa.  The scenario last night was caused by the ball boy, Hazard didn't set out to do anything malicious and from seeing the clip its clear that he was simply trying to get the ball back by toe poking it from under the ball boy, something that most of us have done at some stage to a brother/friend etc when playing football/soccer.
Are you off your fcukin head? This is not a mugging in the street. It's more like someone taking your pen at work!!
;D Brilliant
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: seafoid on January 24, 2013, 04:07:08 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/24/swansea-city-ballboy-eden-hazard

I'm not saying Hazard isn't in the wrong but I hate to see a person who instigates a situation then cry foul for next to nothing. How people can claim Hazard assaulted a kid is embarrassing. He shouldn't of kicked the ball out of his grasp but he hardly booted the lad as some people were suggesting. The lads antics were scandalous and no wonder he isn't taking any further action

Robbie Savage @RobbieSavage8

If the ballboy gives the ball straight back and does his job properly that doesn't happen!


Steven Pienaar @therealstevenpi

I'm not saying its the correct thing 2 do but when in the heat of the moment u just want the ball

Stan Collymore @StanCollymore

Hazard deserved red (violent conduct rule). Kid is a prat. Ballboy job is to give ball quickly. End of. Is that enough of an opinion?

Gareth Bale @GarethBale11

Unbelievable decision by the referee to send Hazard off but congrats to Swansea. Who'd have predicted this final?!

Joseph Barton @Joey7Barton

After reviewing last nights footage, I've come to the conclusion that the games gone. Ballboys aged 17, time wasting, then rollin round like they've been shot. Games gone. He was actually claiming to be best time waster in the world on Twitter yesterday! WTF' that all about? ... Hazard only crime is he hasn't kicked him hard enough...

Rio Ferdinand @rioferdy5

17 year old ball boy... is that a wind up!!? Is being a ball boy now a career move??

Pat Nevin Radio 5 Live

I was very disappointed with the way that the ballboy acted. He must have been watching footballers with the way that he rolled around and pretended to be injured. He's only got one job and his job is to go and give the ball back. What does he do? He keeps the ball. I have to say I was absolutely amazed this morning to find he's 17. Not 12. Not 13. He should know what his actions should be in that situation. His behaviour was disgraceful. I would have kicked the ball out from underneath him if he was behaving like that, 100%."
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: From the Bunker on January 24, 2013, 04:30:33 PM
A Welsh Ball boy trying to pull a fast one for the team ....... Never  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRp1sYiQQVU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRp1sYiQQVU)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 04:46:21 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 24, 2013, 04:07:08 PM
Rio Ferdinand @rioferdy5

17 year old ball boy... is that a wind up!!? Is being a ball boy now a career move??

Gee, why would anyone lift a finger for a sports team unless they were being paid for it?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: From the Bunker on January 24, 2013, 05:10:58 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 04:46:21 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 24, 2013, 04:07:08 PM
Rio Ferdinand @rioferdy5

17 year old ball boy... is that a wind up!!? Is being a ball boy now a career move??

Gee, why would anyone lift a finger for a sports team unless they were being paid for it?

That's the professional world, and that's the way you and me would think if we were in it!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 05:12:52 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 24, 2013, 05:10:58 PM
That's the professional world, and that's the way you and me would think if we were in it!

All professional sportsmen think the same way as Rio Ferdinand? I'm not convinced, but a depressing image all the same.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: imtommygunn on January 24, 2013, 05:18:23 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 05:12:52 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 24, 2013, 05:10:58 PM
That's the professional world, and that's the way you and me would think if we were in it!

All professional sportsmen think the same way as Rio Ferdinand? I'm not convinced, but a depressing image all the same.

I don't see that much wrong with his statement.

Why would you want to be a ballboy as a 17 year old? Surely there should be age restrictions and young children (probably 12 or so years old) should get it.

There are players playing in the premier league as old as the ball boy and your sympathy levels for him dramatically go down when you hear his age!

Hazard shouldn't have done it but your man is 17 and should know better. He's old enough to play in the premier league, he's old enough to have a job, he's old enough to have left school etc etc.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: magpie seanie on January 24, 2013, 05:21:53 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 04:46:21 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 24, 2013, 04:07:08 PM
Rio Ferdinand @rioferdy5

17 year old ball boy... is that a wind up!!? Is being a ball boy now a career move??

Gee, why would anyone lift a finger for a sports team unless they were being paid for it?

I think the point is that ballboys are normally kids and not 17 years olds.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: tommysmith on January 24, 2013, 05:22:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2013, 05:18:23 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 05:12:52 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 24, 2013, 05:10:58 PM
That's the professional world, and that's the way you and me would think if we were in it!

All professional sportsmen think the same way as Rio Ferdinand? I'm not convinced, but a depressing image all the same.

I don't see that much wrong with his statement.

Why would you want to be a ballboy as a 17 year old? Surely there should be age restrictions and young children (probably 12 or so years old) should get it.

There are players playing in the premier league as old as the ball boy and your sympathy levels for him dramatically go down when you hear his age!

Hazard shouldn't have done it but your man is 17 and should know better. He's old enough to play in the premier league, he's old enough to have a job, he's old enough to have left school etc etc.

He lay on a ball, he didn't kill someone ffs.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: imtommygunn on January 24, 2013, 05:23:57 PM
Neither did Hazard!

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: magpie seanie on January 24, 2013, 05:24:33 PM
If Hazard had scored a goal and the Swansea keeper grabbed the ball and wouldn't give it to him (I know, that would never happen!!!) would it be ok to kick the keeper? People have truly lost their minds over this. At least when Cantona kicked that Simmons guy he had good reason.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 05:26:09 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 24, 2013, 05:21:53 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 04:46:21 PM
Gee, why would anyone lift a finger for a sports team unless they were being paid for it?

I think the point is that ballboys are normally kids and not 17 years olds.

I didn't realise that was cast in stone.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: magpie seanie on January 24, 2013, 05:27:33 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 05:26:09 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 24, 2013, 05:21:53 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 04:46:21 PM
Gee, why would anyone lift a finger for a sports team unless they were being paid for it?

I think the point is that ballboys are normally kids and not 17 years olds.

I didn't realise that was cast in stone.

Obviously it isn't.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: tommysmith on January 24, 2013, 05:28:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2013, 05:23:57 PM
Neither did Hazard!

Yeah and what?

Hazard did something not allowed in rules of game and will get punished for it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: imtommygunn on January 24, 2013, 05:32:44 PM
I don't disagree that he should be punished however this ballboy is not a kid and that makes a big difference to the situation.

17 years old and behaving like that... I think most people's sympathy levels for the guy would have dropped when hearing that.

The ballboy didn't kill anyone but neither did Hazard. How hard did he kick him? The ballboy has obviously been paying too much attention to the play acting.

Yes Hazard was wrong in what he did and should be punished. So should the ballboy.

Ferdinand didn't say that much wrong. I bet the people chastising him atren't united supporters. I am far from a united supported by the way.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: tommysmith on January 24, 2013, 05:37:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2013, 05:32:44 PM




The ballboy didn't kill anyone but neither did Hazard. How hard did he kick him?

I don't think it matters how hard he kicked him, its the fact that he did, and the rules of the game don't allow for that.

He broke a rule he got sent off and that should be that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: stew on January 24, 2013, 05:40:50 PM
Quote from: Jonah on January 24, 2013, 12:40:50 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 10:15:54 AM
Quote from: muppet on January 24, 2013, 10:09:13 AM
Most of the posters here defending Hazard would be exploding in indignation if the person lying on the ball had been the goalkeeper of their beloved team. This was a ball boy, Hazard is a 'professional'.

Long ban ahead hopefully.

I wouldn't defend Hazard, just as I didn't defend Jamie Carragher when he threw that pound coin into the crowd at Highbury. But I hope the ball boy is the subject of ridicule throughout the globe, if not for lying on the ball then just for rolling around like a foreigner.

Really? A 17 year old kid?
In the age of cyberbullying and kids committing suicide for being bullied you want a 17 year old kid to be ridiculed across the world?
What about the nurse who committed suicide for being on the end of a prank phone call?
What if it was your own son?

Well said Jonah, that was actually one of the dumbest things I have ever read on here................Let me get this straight, he wants a 17 year old ball boy to be ridiculed around the planet for having the temerity to waste about ten seconds of a 90 minute match? That's fecked in the head that is.

I am going to send that poster a quid so he can buy himself some perspective!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: stew on January 24, 2013, 05:48:06 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 24, 2013, 02:23:13 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 24, 2013, 02:13:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 24, 2013, 02:02:02 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 01:16:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 24, 2013, 01:05:45 PM
A 17 year old wastes about 5 seconds of time - a wee sc**bag.
A professional footballer throws a kick at a 17 year old on the ground - he did no wrong.

WTF are some of you boys on?

He's there to make sure no time is wasted and the rolling around in agony only compounded his idiocy:

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02460/charlie-morgan_a_2460857b.jpg)

I think the ref was dead right to send off Hazard - he would have done the same had it been a player who he had kicked - and he should get a hefty ban.

He was timewasting. Why did he lie on the ball?
Hazard was trying to get the game going again.

I thought it was unfair to send him off. It wasn't a premeditated foul or anything.
So all red cards have to be premeditated? WTF,,,,,

Sending him off was a joke. If the BB hadn't started arsing around nothing would have happened. Chelski needed 2 goals and it was 72 minutes gone and he goes ahead and does something provocative like that.
What Hazard did had no impact on the game. Most people would do the same in that position.

You are some eejit, so you seem to think that most on here would kick a 17 year old in the ribs because he was time wasting? is that what you mean?

I love it that you think what Hazard did not no impact on the game, he got f**king sent off you muppet, they had to play the last 18 minutes a man down when they were chasing the game, I would call that impactful. Jeez Louise!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Main Street on January 24, 2013, 06:02:38 PM
The Swiss FA banned a player, Serey Die, for 8 games for slapping a ballboy who was perceived to be time wasting. The Chelsea player should be facing something similar.

This ballboy did well to stay on his feet, unlike many players who would be rolling around in agony.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzI4LXJa8qc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzI4LXJa8qc)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: rodney trotter on January 24, 2013, 07:17:40 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 04:46:21 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 24, 2013, 04:07:08 PM
Rio Ferdinand @rioferdy5

17 year old ball boy... is that a wind up!!? Is being a ball boy now a career move??

Gee, why would anyone lift a finger for a sports team unless they were being paid for it?

You are missing the point, almost every Premier League Club, the ball boys or girls are between 12 - 16. Swansea were obviously different with the 17 year old.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 24, 2013, 07:46:27 PM

Hazard did something not allowed in rules of game and will get punished for it.

Dont make me laugh, the rules of soccer are broke every week, half the premiership is full of divers, cheats, overpaid under performing divas and they dont get punished for it.

Hazard should and will get banned, but where in my life time of watching football did you ever see a ball boy lying on a football, it simply never happened, and its not time wasting as some people call it, it cheating. Hope everybody on here is righteous when some player of a team u support dives to win a penalty.

At 17, he is not  child, Giggs, Rooney played in the premiership at this age, i was playing football for my senior team at this age, people are calling this assault, not hardly, foolish yes, but if Hazard to takes the rap for what happened, then the ballboy can take the rap for letting the situation develope
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2013, 07:52:56 PM
Quote from: stew on January 24, 2013, 05:40:50 PM
Quote from: Jonah on January 24, 2013, 12:40:50 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 24, 2013, 10:15:54 AM
Quote from: muppet on January 24, 2013, 10:09:13 AM
Most of the posters here defending Hazard would be exploding in indignation if the person lying on the ball had been the goalkeeper of their beloved team. This was a ball boy, Hazard is a 'professional'.

Long ban ahead hopefully.

I wouldn't defend Hazard, just as I didn't defend Jamie Carragher when he threw that pound coin into the crowd at Highbury. But I hope the ball boy is the subject of ridicule throughout the globe, if not for lying on the ball then just for rolling around like a foreigner.

Really? A 17 year old kid?
In the age of cyberbullying and kids committing suicide for being bullied you want a 17 year old kid to be ridiculed across the world?
What about the nurse who committed suicide for being on the end of a prank phone call?
What if it was your own son?

Well said Jonah, that was actually one of the dumbest things I have ever read on here................Let me get this straight, he wants a 17 year old ball boy to be ridiculed around the planet for having the temerity to waste about ten seconds of a 90 minute match? That's fecked in the head that is.

I am going to send that poster a quid so he can buy himself some perspective!

But the lad is going to get this attention anyways, in the main brought on by himself, had he not given Hazard the ball he'd not have got kicked simple, Hazard is completely off his rocker for kicking him too but I've no sympathy for this 17 year twat. This will no doubt have increased his twitter account and he'll be sitting back laughing his head off at this, I doubt very much he'll care.

Also this really worked well in Swansea's favour, time wasting and a Chelsea player sent off!! Result, watch the grounds this weekend, ballbaoys everywhere throwing themselves on the balls!!

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: From the Bunker on January 24, 2013, 07:59:03 PM
This was at the end of a comment on football365.com

What the f*ck is going on, people? What's happening? This is a sideshow. It was a brief and unfortunate moment for which one party has been punished. This is not what we should be debating. It's not what we should even be spending our time talking about. It's certainly not what every single match report about Swansea reaching their first ever major cup final in the national press should lead on. Stop it. Stop talking about it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it

http://www.football365.com/mediawatch/8430464/Mediawatch (http://www.football365.com/mediawatch/8430464/Mediawatch)

Hit the nail on the head for me!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: muppet on January 24, 2013, 08:13:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC_a1ewM4-s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC_a1ewM4-s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb9vfmoxuRU&feature=endscreen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb9vfmoxuRU&feature=endscreen)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQx2_KQVkpI&feature=endscreen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQx2_KQVkpI&feature=endscreen)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJIdlj7VtiQ&feature=fvwp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJIdlj7VtiQ&feature=fvwp)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: laoislad on January 24, 2013, 08:51:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 24, 2013, 01:01:05 PM
Just as well it wasn't Luis Saurez, he would be shot at dawn!!!!

Ha! Thought exactly the same thing.
I bet there wouldn't have been the mad rush to defend him the way some on here and in the media are defending Hazard!
Stupid from the ballboy but Hazard was just as stupid.
Long ban coming up for him I hope.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: magpie seanie on January 24, 2013, 08:55:17 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 24, 2013, 08:51:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 24, 2013, 01:01:05 PM
Just as well it wasn't Luis Saurez, he would be shot at dawn!!!!

Ha! Thought exactly the same thing.
I bet there wouldn't have been the mad rush to defend him the way some on here and in the media are defending Hazard!
Stupid from the ballboy but Hazard was just as stupid.
Long ban coming up for him I hope.

Agree and you could substitute Rooney/Terry or many others in there.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: JUst retired on January 24, 2013, 09:03:24 PM
At 17 years of age he is still classed as a child. So kicking him is child abuse. The player should do jail time,no matter if the ballboy was wasting time.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 24, 2013, 10:20:03 PM
That been the case a child named Pele won the world cup for Brazil back in 1958 playing a mans game?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 24, 2013, 10:46:43 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on January 24, 2013, 09:03:24 PM
At 17 years of age he is still classed as a child. So kicking him is child abuse. The player should do jail time,no matter if the ballboy was wasting time.

Have you been driving down in Kerry?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: spuds on January 25, 2013, 12:01:03 AM
Ballboy there to get the ball back in play ASAP.
Footballer there to play football.
Ballboy deliberately holds up play, footballer confronted with unique situation and reverts to instinct in trying to get ball.

Ballboy is grand and gets notoriety.
Player gets sent off and probable ban.
NUTS !
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: thebigfella on January 25, 2013, 01:37:11 AM
Quote from: laoislad on January 24, 2013, 08:51:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 24, 2013, 01:01:05 PM
Just as well it wasn't Luis Saurez, he would be shot at dawn!!!!

Ha! Thought exactly the same thing.
I bet there wouldn't have been the mad rush to defend him the way some on here and in the media are defending Hazard!
Stupid from the ballboy but Hazard was just as stupid.
Long ban coming up for him I hope.

Suarez and Chelsea fans are as big a scum as jimmy Saville ......  They lot of them need hung.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: tommysmith on January 25, 2013, 07:57:48 AM
Quote from: thebigfella on January 25, 2013, 01:37:11 AM
Quote from: laoislad on January 24, 2013, 08:51:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 24, 2013, 01:01:05 PM
Just as well it wasn't Luis Saurez, he would be shot at dawn!!!!

Ha! Thought exactly the same thing.
I bet there wouldn't have been the mad rush to defend him the way some on here and in the media are defending Hazard!
Stupid from the ballboy but Hazard was just as stupid.
Long ban coming up for him I hope.

Suarez and Chelsea fans are as big a scum as jimmy Saville ......  They lot of them need hung.

+ 1
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on January 25, 2013, 09:09:55 AM
Quote from: thebigfella on January 25, 2013, 01:37:11 AM
Quote from: laoislad on January 24, 2013, 08:51:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 24, 2013, 01:01:05 PM
Just as well it wasn't Luis Saurez, he would be shot at dawn!!!!

Ha! Thought exactly the same thing.
I bet there wouldn't have been the mad rush to defend him the way some on here and in the media are defending Hazard!
Stupid from the ballboy but Hazard was just as stupid.
Long ban coming up for him I hope.

Suarez and Chelsea fans are as big a scum as jimmy Saville ......  They lot of them need hung.

Heavy drinking during the week? 

You'll be hearing from my legal team.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on January 25, 2013, 09:10:20 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 25, 2013, 07:57:48 AM
Quote from: thebigfella on January 25, 2013, 01:37:11 AM
Quote from: laoislad on January 24, 2013, 08:51:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 24, 2013, 01:01:05 PM
Just as well it wasn't Luis Saurez, he would be shot at dawn!!!!

Ha! Thought exactly the same thing.
I bet there wouldn't have been the mad rush to defend him the way some on here and in the media are defending Hazard!
Stupid from the ballboy but Hazard was just as stupid.
Long ban coming up for him I hope.

Suarez and Chelsea fans are as big a scum as jimmy Saville ......  They lot of them need hung.

+ 1

See above.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 25, 2013, 09:19:39 AM
Quote from: AQMP on January 25, 2013, 09:10:20 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 25, 2013, 07:57:48 AM
Quote from: thebigfella on January 25, 2013, 01:37:11 AM
Quote from: laoislad on January 24, 2013, 08:51:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 24, 2013, 01:01:05 PM
Just as well it wasn't Luis Saurez, he would be shot at dawn!!!!

Ha! Thought exactly the same thing.
I bet there wouldn't have been the mad rush to defend him the way some on here and in the media are defending Hazard!
Stupid from the ballboy but Hazard was just as stupid.
Long ban coming up for him I hope.

Suarez and Chelsea fans are as big a scum as jimmy Saville ......  They lot of them need hung.

+ 1

See above.

Wise up man- He wants to hug you. Where do we go for the hug anyone know?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: nrico2006 on January 25, 2013, 09:37:05 AM
What rule has Hazard actually broke?  Didn't think there would be one so specific to handling player and ballboy altercations.

If a 17 year old playing senior Gaelic football or Premier League football is hit in a match or the victim of a bad tackle, is it child abuse?  Hazard is only a couple of years older than this fella, whole thing blown out of proportion.  Why should Hazard be the only one punished here?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on January 25, 2013, 10:42:40 AM
If a goalie threw himself on top of a ball lying in the net to prevent a quick restart - shemozzles of this sort are a common feature of the game - and an opponent did what Hazard did, he'd be sent off.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: tommysmith on January 25, 2013, 10:58:09 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 25, 2013, 09:37:05 AM
What rule has Hazard actually broke?  Didn't think there would be one so specific to handling player and ballboy altercations.

If a 17 year old playing senior Gaelic football or Premier League football is hit in a match or the victim of a bad tackle, is it child abuse?  Hazard is only a couple of years older than this fella, whole thing blown out of proportion.  Why should Hazard be the only one punished here?

Violent Conduct?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: magpie seanie on January 25, 2013, 01:05:59 PM
Quote from: deiseach on January 25, 2013, 10:42:40 AM
If a goalie threw himself on top of a ball lying in the net to prevent a quick restart - shemozzles of this sort are a common feature of the game - and an opponent did what Hazard did, he'd be sent off.

Exactly.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Lecale2 on January 25, 2013, 01:07:49 PM
It happened off the field of play so in common law it's assault.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: rrhf on January 25, 2013, 01:22:58 PM
He got the ball!
A professional footballer could make a very good case that he was simply using the tools of his trade to accurately remove the ball from the cub.  He looks as if he was in control at all times, pitched out the ball and lifted it up.  If the cub hadnt acted as if he was mortally injured then there would be limited talk now.  Could you imagine the ballboys at wimbledon doing the same?  However if it were Suarez Id be for locking the fecker up.   
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 25, 2013, 01:24:44 PM
How many pages are we on?

How many pages did the Cabaye and Ferdinand incidents get? Just wondering.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: spuds on January 25, 2013, 01:30:36 PM
Quote from: rrhf on January 25, 2013, 01:22:58 PM
He got the ball!
A professional footballer could make a very good case that he was simply using the tools of his trade to accurately remove the ball from the cub.  He looks as if he was in control at all times, pitched out the ball and lifted it up.  If the cub hadnt acted as if he was mortally injured then there would be limited talk now.  Could you imagine the ballboys at wimbledon doing the same?  However if it were Suarez Id be for locking the fecker up.
I like you
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 25, 2013, 03:59:16 PM
QuoteSky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews

Chelsea's Eden Hazard charged by FA following incident with ball boy in League Cup semi-final against Swansea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 25, 2013, 04:58:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2013, 01:27:05 PM
What about, what about, what about?

Not arguing he was wrong to get involved. However you question the consistency. Not sure what's wrong with that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 31, 2013, 05:03:48 PM
Hazard ban won't be increased

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21282917
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Declan on February 01, 2013, 07:38:40 AM
Good to see Subbuteo  is still relevant in the digital age
(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/373913_10152501257555441_1226183048_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on February 01, 2013, 09:16:55 PM
Conor Clifford released typical anti Irish Chelsea :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: From the Bunker on February 01, 2013, 09:41:32 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 31, 2013, 05:03:48 PM
Hazard ban won't be increased

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21282917

Good decision, he's already got a red and three match ban. Everybody has got their piece of meat.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 01, 2013, 09:57:19 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 01, 2013, 09:16:55 PM
Conor Clifford released typical anti Irish Chelsea :P

Seen that earlier, and was waiting for that comment!  ;D

Feel sorry for the lad. Was very, very good in the youth team, but just didn't seem to develop physically. I knew the writing was on the wall when he didn't get games at the Clubs he was on loan for which was Portsmouth, and Colchester I think.

Chelsea did him a favour releasing him now and not the summer coming when his contract expired. Hopefully he works out for him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on February 02, 2013, 07:20:42 PM
In Rafa we trust 8)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 03, 2013, 05:26:53 AM
Howard Webb doing a pretty good job too!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on February 28, 2013, 07:47:14 PM
I see Rafa is at his ranting again. He just can't stop himself.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Jonah on March 01, 2013, 11:29:54 AM
Benitez was 100% correct to have a go at Chelsea's Neanderthal fans.
It has to have an effect on the team the way they carry on.
To not even give the man a chance speaks volumes about the mentality of these yobs. It's there sugar daddy owner they should be pissed with for appointing Rafa in the first place, he was never going to be the right man for the job.
When Benitez goes that will be 4 out of the last 7 Champions Leage winning managers they will have let go. Chelsea are a joke club IMO.
At the end of the day there is only one winner in all this sorry saga and that's Benitez.
He will have earned a couple of million from this and will move onto another club none the worse for wear.
Chelsea's revolving door of managers will continue as long as the Russian is in charge.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on March 01, 2013, 11:38:33 AM
In fairness to Rafa, I thought he was right. Had to stand up for himself and show a bit of dignity.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: NAG1 on March 01, 2013, 11:59:39 AM
Quote from: Jonah on March 01, 2013, 11:29:54 AM
Benitez was 100% correct to have a go at Chelsea's Neanderthal fans.
It has to have an effect on the team the way they carry on.
To not even give the man a chance speaks volumes about the mentality of these yobs. It's there sugar daddy owner they should be pissed with for appointing Rafa in the first place, he was never going to be the right man for the job.
When Benitez goes that will be 4 out of the last 7 Champions Leage winning managers they will have let go. Chelsea are a joke club IMO.
At the end of the day there is only one winner in all this sorry saga and that's Benitez.
He will have earned a couple of million from this and will move onto another club none the worse for wear.
Chelsea's revolving door of managers will continue as long as the Russian is in charge.

Dont know if anyone caught a debate on the whole DiCanio situation with Swindon. The argument had gone that he was extremely well paid for the division he was in, on 450k per year. The lads on the panel couldnt believe this and stated that there were several Premier league managers last year who were on less money than this a year. Just found it interesting compared to the players wages and the bit highlighted above.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Canalman on March 01, 2013, 12:51:34 PM
May have posted this already . Imo anyway Chelsea FC are just adopting the continental way of hiring and firing managers. There was always chortling in England in the past  about the way Italian and Spanish clubs (for example) hired and fired managers at will.

Expect to see more of this in England in the future.

Btw, with the amount of trophies won by Chelsea in the last 10 years or so is there not an argument to say that the high turnover  of managers has worked ?

Would they have won the CL last year if AVB had been given a whole season there?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: seafoid on March 01, 2013, 01:55:10 PM
It sounds like the atmosphere at Chelsea is rancid.Abramovich is a thug and his way of looking at the world probably became the norm over time.

Mourinho at Real Madrid is another thug. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: magpie seanie on March 01, 2013, 02:31:31 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 01, 2013, 11:38:33 AM
In fairness to Rafa, I thought he was right. Had to stand up for himself and show a bit of dignity.

Nice one ballinaman!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 01, 2013, 03:56:03 PM
Quote from: Jonah on March 01, 2013, 11:29:54 AM
Benitez was 100% correct to have a go at Chelsea's Neanderthal fans.
It has to have an effect on the team the way they carry on.
To not even give the man a chance speaks volumes about the mentality of these yobs. It's there sugar daddy owner they should be pissed with for appointing Rafa in the first place, he was never going to be the right man for the job.
When Benitez goes that will be 4 out of the last 7 Champions Leage winning managers they will have let go. Chelsea are a joke club IMO.
At the end of the day there is only one winner in all this sorry saga and that's Benitez.
He will have earned a couple of million from this and will move onto another club none the worse for wear.
Chelsea's revolving door of managers will continue as long as the Russian is in charge.

Benitez agent is also a winner in this saga.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 01, 2013, 10:48:01 PM
People continually miss the point on Chelsea fan's attitude to Benitez, and there has been plenty of flak aimed at Abromovitch, and his entourage through this too, but not on the Rafa scale.

Other 'fans', continue to condemn Chelsea fans' protesting, but ignore the protests at Liverpool and United (Whatever happened to that?) etc.

And as for Benitez' integrity. f**k me. The man slagged Chelsea fans before he got here, got here, and can't understand why they're against him. He accepts the 'interim' title, and then states that it's a major issue, and today states that it's no problem. He's like a bag of water.

At Liverpool it was the owners fault. At Inter he blamed the board. At Chelsea he blames the fans. Never his fault. Sounds like he's been living in Liverpool too long!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/9901414/Rafael-Benitez-must-leave-Chelsea-if-storm-clouds-gathering-over-Stamford-Bridge-are-to-be-dispersed.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/9901414/Rafael-Benitez-must-leave-Chelsea-if-storm-clouds-gathering-over-Stamford-Bridge-are-to-be-dispersed.html)

Spot on article here.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: magpie seanie on March 01, 2013, 11:27:37 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 01, 2013, 10:48:01 PM
People continually miss the point on Chelsea fan's attitude to Benitez, and there has been plenty of flak aimed at Abromovitch, and his entourage through this too, but not on the Rafa scale.

Other 'fans', continue to condemn Chelsea fans' protesting, but ignore the protests at Liverpool and United (Whatever happened to that?) etc.

And as for Benitez' integrity. f**k me. The man slagged Chelsea fans before he got here, got here, and can't understand why they're against him. He accepts the 'interim' title, and then states that it's a major issue, and today states that it's no problem. He's like a bag of water.

At Liverpool it was the owners fault. At Inter he blamed the board. At Chelsea he blames the fans. Never his fault. Sounds like he's been living in Liverpool too long!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/9901414/Rafael-Benitez-must-leave-Chelsea-if-storm-clouds-gathering-over-Stamford-Bridge-are-to-be-dispersed.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/9901414/Rafael-Benitez-must-leave-Chelsea-if-storm-clouds-gathering-over-Stamford-Bridge-are-to-be-dispersed.html)

Spot on article here.

Excellent post. He's a jellyfish. I don't particularly like Chelsea or Abramovich but Benitez knew what the deal was when he signed up for a big wad of cash so he should shut up about it. His midweek bleat was pure comedy to me. He lost his cool like in the famous "fact" rant and has now argued black is white since.

Bottom line - he was brought in to "fix" Torres and he arrogantly thought he could. He can't so it has to be someone elses fault.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: laoislad on March 01, 2013, 11:43:23 PM
For a jelly fish he hasn't a bad record as a manager.
I think it's funny how he still gets under the skin of Man United fans.
The disdain the have for him all because he had the audacity to speak the truth about Fergie.

As for Chelsea, I hear David Moyes being mentioned for the job.
Best of luck with a manager who has won nothing I'm sure the Chelsea fans will give him at least a week before the Moyes Out banners are  flying at the cesspit bridge.

Well done Agent Rafa your work is done  :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on March 02, 2013, 10:24:32 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 01, 2013, 10:48:01 PM
People continually miss the point on Chelsea fan's attitude to Benitez, and there has been plenty of flak aimed at Abromovitch, and his entourage through this too, but not on the Rafa scale.

Other 'fans', continue to condemn Chelsea fans' protesting, but ignore the protests at Liverpool and United (Whatever happened to that?) etc.

When I see protests from Chelsea fans demanding Abramovich sling his hook that were comparable to those from Liverpool fans about Gillett and Hicks, I'll take this point. Until then, you're blaming the monkey for the tunes being played by the organ grinder.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 03, 2013, 01:06:12 AM
Quote from: deiseach on March 02, 2013, 10:24:32 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 01, 2013, 10:48:01 PM
People continually miss the point on Chelsea fan's attitude to Benitez, and there has been plenty of flak aimed at Abromovitch, and his entourage through this too, but not on the Rafa scale.

Other 'fans', continue to condemn Chelsea fans' protesting, but ignore the protests at Liverpool and United (Whatever happened to that?) etc.

When I see protests from Chelsea fans demanding Abramovich sling his hook that were comparable to those from Liverpool fans about Gillett and Hicks, I'll take this point. Until then, you're blaming the monkey for the tunes being played by the organ grinder.


Why would Chelsea fans want rid of RA? Sure he has done more good than wrong.

That would be silly.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Minder on May 11, 2013, 02:55:03 PM
Lampard is some pup
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Denn Forever on May 11, 2013, 03:28:30 PM
202 goals from a midfielder.  And RA doesn't want to renew his contract.  Part of a swap deal with Rooney?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: orangeman on May 11, 2013, 04:25:47 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on May 11, 2013, 03:28:30 PM
202 goals from a midfielder.  And RA doesn't want to renew his contract.  Part of a swap deal with Rooney?

Is Lampard still for Man U ?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ranch on May 11, 2013, 04:29:37 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on May 11, 2013, 03:28:30 PM
202 goals from a midfielder.  And RA doesn't want to renew his contract.  Part of a swap deal with Rooney?

Lamard will be out of contract, Chelsea wouldn't have the power to offer him as part of any swap deal.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 11, 2013, 08:23:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctWS52IA_JY
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: muppet on May 12, 2013, 10:49:37 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 11, 2013, 08:23:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctWS52IA_JY

That is brilliant.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: From the Bunker on May 12, 2013, 11:00:15 AM
Quote from: muppet on May 12, 2013, 10:49:37 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 11, 2013, 08:23:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctWS52IA_JY

That is brilliant.

Uncle Harry standing up for Frank! Great piece of footage!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: ballinaman on May 17, 2013, 10:15:33 AM
Jose and Ronaldo both going to Chelsea this summer according to this chap.

https://twitter.com/KingJonno12

Personal friend of a good few of the United players. Has called RVP and other big transfers before they happened before. He's put £450 on Ronaldo to Chelsea.

Odds are tumbling at the minute. Put 20 at 5/2 on it there.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AQMP on May 17, 2013, 11:26:56 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 17, 2013, 10:15:33 AM
Jose and Ronaldo both going to Chelsea this summer according to this chap.

https://twitter.com/KingJonno12

Personal friend of a good few of the United players. Has called RVP and other big transfers before they happened before. He's put £450 on Ronaldo to Chelsea.

Odds are tumbling at the minute. Put 20 at 5/2 on it there.

Victor Moses under pressure.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: our_fella on May 17, 2013, 01:33:45 PM
Why on earth would Ronaldo go to Chelsea? He'd only ever go back to United
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: orangeman on May 17, 2013, 01:50:13 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 12, 2013, 11:00:15 AM
Quote from: muppet on May 12, 2013, 10:49:37 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 11, 2013, 08:23:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctWS52IA_JY

That is brilliant.

Uncle Harry standing up for Frank! Great piece of footage!


Brilliant.


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: EC Unique on May 17, 2013, 09:12:45 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 17, 2013, 01:50:13 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 12, 2013, 11:00:15 AM
Quote from: muppet on May 12, 2013, 10:49:37 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 11, 2013, 08:23:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctWS52IA_JY

That is brilliant.

Uncle Harry standing up for Frank! Great piece of footage!


Brilliant.

Class. Arry was dead right too!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: AZOffaly on May 18, 2013, 02:58:02 PM
Don't think that was a journo. I think it was a fans forum.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: muppet on May 18, 2013, 04:52:53 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22570411 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22570411)

Bobby Tambling lives in Cork and watched Lampard beat his record in a pub in Crosshaven!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 18, 2013, 09:24:53 PM
Chelsea 1 FC Basel 2  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Bingo on September 18, 2013, 09:43:14 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 18, 2013, 09:24:53 PM
Chelsea 1 FC Basel 2  :o

Rafa out
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: J OGorman on September 28, 2013, 09:03:00 PM
Scratch of the Day on at 10:30pm  :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: muppet on September 29, 2013, 01:21:35 AM
Quote from: Under Lights on September 19, 2013, 08:21:19 AM
NEVER GO BACK

Can anyone give me an example in sport where someone made a return and was deemed as successful as their first stint?

Last four games for Chelsea- two draws and two defeats. Early in the season yet and hardly a crisis but if Rafa had of:
- Dropped the captain, leader, legend,
- Dropped Chelsea's POTY (for the past 2 seasons)
- Got beaten at home in Europe by inferior opposition
Chelsea fans would of been calling for his head.

Di Matteo in.

Brian Corcoran.
Sugar Ray Leonard.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Syferus on September 29, 2013, 01:30:19 AM
Quote from: muppet on September 29, 2013, 01:21:35 AM
Quote from: Under Lights on September 19, 2013, 08:21:19 AM
NEVER GO BACK

Can anyone give me an example in sport where someone made a return and was deemed as successful as their first stint?

Last four games for Chelsea- two draws and two defeats. Early in the season yet and hardly a crisis but if Rafa had of:
- Dropped the captain, leader, legend,
- Dropped Chelsea's POTY (for the past 2 seasons)
- Got beaten at home in Europe by inferior opposition
Chelsea fans would of been calling for his head.

Di Matteo in.

Brian Corcoran.
Sugar Ray Leonard.

Cake Curran.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: laoislad on October 27, 2013, 10:47:15 PM
Was that a guy in a Leitrim jersey when Jose jumped into the crowd after the Torres goal.
It's a Gaa jersey anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 03, 2014, 12:41:29 AM
Quote from: Main Street on November 22, 2012, 06:09:15 PM
As expected there was not an iota of evidence to support and  even evidence to contradict the allegation against Clattenburg

"Having considered all of the available evidence it was the opinion of David Waters QC, independent counsel, that the evidence of Ramires was not supported by any other evidence. Moreover it was contradicted by other witnesses and does not cross the evidential threshold required to bring a charge against Mark Clattenburg," the FA said. "Having considered counsel's opinion, and in view of all the circumstances of the case, the FA does not believe that there is a case for Mr Clattenburg to answer.

Chelsea manage to escape sanction here, despite yet another absolutely groundless and  serious allegation made against the integrity of a referee whose only crime was that he managed to make questionable decisions in a game which did not go Chelsea's way.
This time, Chelsea are only passing on the absurd allegation made by a player, when this all could have been dealt with in the referee's room after the game.


Looks like Clattenburg's integrity is being questioned again.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2532710/Mark-Clattenburg-investigated-Southampton-accuse-referee-abusing-Adam-Lallana.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2532710/Mark-Clattenburg-investigated-Southampton-accuse-referee-abusing-Adam-Lallana.html)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: rodney trotter on January 03, 2014, 01:00:18 PM
It would be surprising if Juan Mata is still at Chelsea by the of the window.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on January 03, 2014, 01:05:16 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 03, 2014, 01:00:18 PM
It would be surprising if Juan Mata is still at Chelsea by the of the window.

I'd be very surprised if Chelsea let him go to another Prem team (maybe if silly money was offered).  Back to Spain??  I think he's been poorly treated by Mourinho.  Has been Chelsea's best player over the past couple of seasons.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: rodney trotter on January 03, 2014, 01:16:13 PM
Yeah I would agree, dont think they let him go to another Pl side. PSG are being stongly linked,, also talk of Atletico Madrid and Inter.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 03, 2014, 04:38:43 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 03, 2014, 01:05:16 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 03, 2014, 01:00:18 PM
It would be surprising if Juan Mata is still at Chelsea by the of the window.

I'd be very surprised if Chelsea let him go to another Prem team (maybe if silly money was offered).  Back to Spain??  I think he's been poorly treated by Mourinho.  Has been Chelsea's best player over the past couple of seasons.

I kinda agree and disagree.

Mata has started 11 of the 20 premiership games this season, and hasn't be as effective as last season.

He has started more than Schurle, Willian, Torres, KDB, Ba, Eto and just two less than Oscar. Only Hazard of that attacking  bunch has had more starts of note. The truth is, is that he hasn't played overly well. The style that JM is trying to instill is pressure on the ball when not in possession, and then break at pace. JM is not overly quick, but in fairness he has worked harder on the defensive side of his game. Nonetheless over the last few weeks especially as this formation has gelled better, Mata has been noticeably less effective.

I'd prefer to sell KDB, and have 5 players fighting for the 3 spots behind the striker, thus keeping Mata, as he is a superb player, and has a brilliant attitude. However a 40 million pound offer could be tempting.

It's a tricky one.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europe
Post by: deiseach on January 03, 2014, 04:45:51 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 03, 2014, 12:41:29 AM
Quote from: Main Street on November 22, 2012, 06:09:15 PM
As expected there was not an iota of evidence to support and  even evidence to contradict the allegation against Clattenburg

"Having considered all of the available evidence it was the opinion of David Waters QC, independent counsel, that the evidence of Ramires was not supported by any other evidence. Moreover it was contradicted by other witnesses and does not cross the evidential threshold required to bring a charge against Mark Clattenburg," the FA said. "Having considered counsel's opinion, and in view of all the circumstances of the case, the FA does not believe that there is a case for Mr Clattenburg to answer.

Chelsea manage to escape sanction here, despite yet another absolutely groundless and  serious allegation made against the integrity of a referee whose only crime was that he managed to make questionable decisions in a game which did not go Chelsea's way.
This time, Chelsea are only passing on the absurd allegation made by a player, when this all could have been dealt with in the referee's room after the game.


Looks like Clattenburg's integrity is being questioned again.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2532710/Mark-Clattenburg-investigated-Southampton-accuse-referee-abusing-Adam-Lallana.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2532710/Mark-Clattenburg-investigated-Southampton-accuse-referee-abusing-Adam-Lallana.html)

And looks like it's as big a pile of dung (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jan/03/southampton-mark-clattenburg-referee-adam-lallana-complaint-thrown-out) now as it was then.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Christmas Lights on January 03, 2014, 05:34:47 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 03, 2014, 04:38:43 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 03, 2014, 01:05:16 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 03, 2014, 01:00:18 PM
It would be surprising if Juan Mata is still at Chelsea by the of the window.

I'd be very surprised if Chelsea let him go to another Prem team (maybe if silly money was offered).  Back to Spain??  I think he's been poorly treated by Mourinho.  Has been Chelsea's best player over the past couple of seasons.


I kinda agree and disagree.

Mata has started 11 of the 20 premiership games this season, and hasn't be as effective as last season.

He has started more than Schurle, Willian, Torres, KDB, Ba, Eto and just two less than Oscar. Only Hazard of that attacking  bunch has had more starts of note. The truth is, is that he hasn't played overly well. The style that JM is trying to instill is pressure on the ball when not in possession, and then break at pace. JM is not overly quick, but in fairness he has worked harder on the defensive side of his game. Nonetheless over the last few weeks especially as this formation has gelled better, Mata has been noticeably less effective.

I'd prefer to sell KDB, and have 5 players fighting for the 3 spots behind the striker, thus keeping Mata, as he is a superb player, and has a brilliant attitude. However a 40 million pound offer could be tempting.

It's a tricky one.

Good player but Mata aint worth 40million in fairness.  If your getting 40M for him, its not a tempting offer, you bite the arm of the club offering it and sell him.

They could do with selling Mata and Demba Ba as they both dont seem to be in JM long term plans.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: orangeman on January 03, 2014, 07:39:39 PM
Higuain ??


£50m turned down so far.


Obramovich must have plenty left.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 03, 2014, 07:46:18 PM
Was only media speculation it seems.


http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/9099804/jose-mourinho-says-gonzalo-higuain-is-a-player-chelsea-will-not-be-able-to-sign
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: muppet on January 24, 2014, 05:27:17 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/soccer/gullible-chelsea-fans-fooled-by-fake-irish-reporter-620712.html (http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/soccer/gullible-chelsea-fans-fooled-by-fake-irish-reporter-620712.html)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Rossie11 on January 29, 2014, 09:54:45 PM
Rafa will have to come in again this year to make sure they make top 4...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Fuzzman on February 03, 2014, 03:14:36 PM
Am not usually on here lads as I'm a ToffeeNose but my young lad has chosen to fall a different colour of blue. At least he's not a red.

Anyway, have any of ye bought jerseys for yer young lads. He's only 6 but his best pal has all the latest jerseys. Where is good value?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: BenDover on February 03, 2014, 03:58:27 PM
http://hipsoccer.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=101 try this
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 03, 2014, 09:56:20 PM
The special one still has it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on February 03, 2014, 09:59:04 PM
Should have been 5 or 6. Possibly an easier win than against Moyes' flops.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: EC Unique on February 03, 2014, 09:59:20 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 03, 2014, 09:56:20 PM
The special one still has it.

Some result for him alright. Fair play to him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on February 03, 2014, 10:06:39 PM
Hazard Footballer of the Year.  Matic looks a bit of a player.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 03, 2014, 10:11:26 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 03, 2014, 10:06:39 PM
Hazard Footballer of the Year.

I dare you to post that on the Liverpool thread!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 03, 2014, 10:14:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 03, 2014, 10:11:26 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 03, 2014, 10:06:39 PM
Hazard Footballer of the Year.

I dare you to post that on the Liverpool thread!!
Should be okay they won't bite.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: The Worker on February 03, 2014, 11:00:38 PM
City evens for the title, still a good bet IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: EC Unique on February 03, 2014, 11:07:23 PM
Quote from: The Worker on February 03, 2014, 11:00:38 PM
City evens for the title, still a good bet IMO.
Agreed. This is a blip but really think they will win it with a bit to spare.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 03, 2014, 11:12:22 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 03, 2014, 10:06:39 PM
Hazard Footballer of the Year.  Matic looks a bit of a player.

I have £20 on Hazard since July for POTY.

However Suarez will win it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on February 03, 2014, 11:25:04 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 03, 2014, 10:11:26 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 03, 2014, 10:06:39 PM
Hazard Footballer of the Year.

I dare you to post that on the Liverpool thread!!
For scousers footballer of the year is serious silverware
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Billys Boots on February 25, 2014, 09:22:31 AM
The man's hilarious - great entertainment.  ;D

Mourinho caught on camera dismissing strikers

Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho dismissed the quality of his strikers during what he believed was a private chat.

The Portuguese, whose team are top of the Premier League and face Galatasaray in the UEFA Champions League on Wednesday, questioned how good Samuel Eto'o, Fernando Torres and Demba Ba are.

Mourinho believed he was chatting privately to senior representatives from watch manufacturer Hublot.

But, during the sponsorship launch, French TV company Canal Plus captured the exchange.

"I have a team but no striker," Mourinho said.

"It is not possible for us to win the Premier League.

"We have Samuel Eto'o. Yes, Eto'o, but he is 32, maybe even 35, I don't know."

During an interview with Canal Plus, Mourinho dismissed the potential of signing star strikers Edinson Cavani and Zlatan Ibrahimovic.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AZOffaly on February 25, 2014, 10:21:02 AM
I saw that. Must be great for his strikers. I can imagine Eto'o in particular being fairly pissed off by that. Torres is probably on his way anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: seafoid on February 25, 2014, 10:28:38 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 25, 2014, 10:21:02 AM
I saw that. Must be great for his strikers. I can imagine Eto'o in particular being fairly pissed off by that. Torres is probably on his way anyway.
I'd say he has made a lot of enemies and there is no shortage of people happy to stitch him with that sort of info release 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: trileacman on February 25, 2014, 12:35:39 PM
Delighted for Mourinho, as someone you hijacks the media to serve his own ends it's good to see it bite him in the ass.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: seafoid on February 25, 2014, 01:22:06 PM
Quote from: trileacman on February 25, 2014, 12:35:39 PM
Delighted for Mourinho, as someone you hijacks the media to serve his own ends it's good to see it bite him in the ass.
The special one just got a taste of his own medicine
Barcelona still call him "the translator"...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 25, 2014, 01:32:29 PM
or maybe he knew fine rightly that the cameras were there.....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 26, 2014, 07:51:32 PM
When Mourinho won league titles with Chelsea wasn't their top scorer Frank Lampard?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2014, 08:06:16 PM
Jose showing Moyes what to do in away games against teams you should beat, get the away goal and shout the fans up!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2014, 09:33:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2014, 08:06:16 PM
Jose showing Moyes what to do in away games against teams you should beat, get the away goal and shout the fans up!!
wouldn't it be gas if Drogba scored a hat trick at the Bridge to knock the 4th English club out before the QFs? 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 26, 2014, 09:39:25 PM
Good result for Chelsea well placed to go through now. Schalke hammered at home as was Leverkusen two sides English clubs would beat.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AZOffaly on February 27, 2014, 02:27:05 PM
Is this a pisstake?

QuoteChelsea team up with 'The Simpsons'
The deal, which is in partnership with Twentieth Century Fox Consumer Products, will see the introduction of a new co-created line of Chelsea-branded merchandise featuring the show's main characters - Homer and Bart Simpson.

Chelsea chief executive Ron Gourlay told the club's official website: "We are very pleased to announce such an exciting partnership.

"The Simpsons is a hugely popular show and I hope Chelsea fans will enjoy seeing its main characters in our colours."

Chelsea players Petr Cech, Eden Hazard, Frank Lampard, John Terry and Fernando Torres were all 'Simpson-ised' to celebrate the announcement.

Terry said: "It's great to see myself and the other players as Simpsons characters.

"The Simpsons was and still is my favourite show, and is now my kids' too. I can't wait to see what Bart and Homer will look like as Chelsea players."

No prizes for guessing who Sideshow Bob is.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: muppet on February 28, 2014, 06:53:53 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 27, 2014, 02:27:05 PM
Is this a pisstake?

QuoteChelsea team up with 'The Simpsons'
The deal, which is in partnership with Twentieth Century Fox Consumer Products, will see the introduction of a new co-created line of Chelsea-branded merchandise featuring the show's main characters - Homer and Bart Simpson.

Chelsea chief executive Ron Gourlay told the club's official website: "We are very pleased to announce such an exciting partnership.

"The Simpsons is a hugely popular show and I hope Chelsea fans will enjoy seeing its main characters in our colours."

Chelsea players Petr Cech, Eden Hazard, Frank Lampard, John Terry and Fernando Torres were all 'Simpson-ised' to celebrate the announcement.

Terry said: "It's great to see myself and the other players as Simpsons characters.

"The Simpsons was and still is my favourite show, and is now my kids' too. I can't wait to see what Bart and Homer will look like as Chelsea players."

No prizes for guessing who Sideshow Bob is.

Any truth in the rumour that Fat Tony will play Rafa?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: orangeman on March 29, 2014, 05:05:21 PM
The day John Terry Chelsea handed City the title.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on April 02, 2014, 09:39:22 PM
Absolutely shocking stuff from Chelsea there. I can't remember a Mourinho managed Chelsea team playing worse.  Luiz was a walking disaster.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: seafoid on April 02, 2014, 09:40:46 PM

sportingintelligence   @sportingintel 

Costs to put together tonight's Champions League squads: PSG €366m Chelsea €376m; Real Madrid €536m BDortmund $99m.  #psg #cfc #rm #bvb


It's all a big circus
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: laoislad on April 02, 2014, 09:44:21 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 02, 2014, 09:39:22 PM
Absolutely shocking stuff from Chelsea there. I can't remember a Mourinho managed Chelsea team playing worse.  Luiz was a walking disaster.
Hope they bring same form into Stoke game Saturday.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: EC Unique on April 02, 2014, 10:04:22 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 02, 2014, 09:40:46 PM

sportingintelligence   @sportingintel 

Costs to put together tonight's Champions League squads: PSG €366m Chelsea €376m; Real Madrid €536m BDortmund $99m.  #psg #cfc #rm #bvb


It's all a big circus

Why are people so obsessed with the cost of players/squads these days? It is 11 professionals against another 11 professionals.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 02, 2014, 10:05:34 PM
I think Petr Cech could have saved that Javier Pastore goal. Chelsea missed some big chances tonight and will do well to win this tie now.  Mourinho is still doing well with this Chelsea squad, in fairness they aren't anywhere near the level of 2005,06.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: seafoid on April 02, 2014, 10:09:00 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on April 02, 2014, 10:04:22 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 02, 2014, 09:40:46 PM

sportingintelligence   @sportingintel 

Costs to put together tonight's Champions League squads: PSG €366m Chelsea €376m; Real Madrid €536m BDortmund $99m.  #psg #cfc #rm #bvb


It's all a big circus

Why are people so obsessed with the cost of players/squads these days? It is 11 professionals against another 11 professionals.
Very few clubs have that sort of money.
It's like an oligopoly.
http://www.uefa.org/MultimediaFiles/Download/Tech/uefaorg/General/01/99/91/07/1999107_DOWNLOAD.pdf

What Nottingham Forest did is impossible nowadays.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Shrewdness on April 02, 2014, 10:24:55 PM
Chelsea do face an uphill task after losing that tie 3-1, but i wouldn't write them off yet. Ibrahimovic could be out, and Chelsea are bound to be a much stronger attacking threat at home.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on April 03, 2014, 09:03:04 AM
Quote from: laoislad on April 02, 2014, 09:44:21 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 02, 2014, 09:39:22 PM
Absolutely shocking stuff from Chelsea there. I can't remember a Mourinho managed Chelsea team playing worse.  Luiz was a walking disaster.
Hope they bring same form into Stoke game Saturday.

I think Stoke would bate both those teams!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: ballinaman on April 03, 2014, 09:05:02 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkRll21CAAAzi2D.png)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: johnneycool on April 03, 2014, 09:35:33 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 02, 2014, 10:05:34 PM
I think Petr Cech could have saved that Javier Pastore goal. Chelsea missed some big chances tonight and will do well to win this tie now.  Mourinho is still doing well with this Chelsea squad, in fairness they aren't anywhere near the level of 2005,06.

Cech should have done a whole load better on the Luiz OG as well. The ball bounced 2 yards out FFS, he should be coming out and taking it rather than allowing the defensive line to get so close in where it becomes a lottery like it did.

I can see the lad on loan at Athletico Madrid getting the No1 jersey next year as he looks to be the real deal.

Even with Ibrahimovic out I think PSG will have enough, although the lack of a scoring threat by Chelsea could be their downfall. They'll need Eto on at least.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on April 03, 2014, 11:22:34 AM
Mourinho picked a team without a striker...a defence...and a goalkeeper!  A midfield with Oscar, Willian, Hazard, Schurrle, and Ramires was hardly set up to park the bus. Luiz was woeful, played like a pub player.  Cech was poor on the 2nd and 3rd goals and seemed rooted on his line a lot of the time.  I'm not sure what the tactics were.

Torres is finished, Eto'o was only ever a stop gap.  Chelsea need two world class strikers.  Who they are and how much they will cost I really don't know.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: EC Unique on April 08, 2014, 09:38:02 PM
Fair play. Maureen does it again. Hard not to like him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AZOffaly on April 08, 2014, 09:40:33 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on April 08, 2014, 09:38:02 PM
Fair play. Maureen does it again. Hard not to like him.

Not really. 

Well done Chelsea though. Great result.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 08, 2014, 10:12:38 PM
Real Madrid against Mourinho in the semi final?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Minder on April 08, 2014, 10:14:09 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 08, 2014, 10:12:38 PM
Real Madrid against Mourinho in the semi final?

11 v 1? Hardly fair
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: gawa316 on April 08, 2014, 10:35:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 08, 2014, 10:14:09 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 08, 2014, 10:12:38 PM
Real Madrid against Mourinho in the semi final?

11 v 1? Hardly fair

Head circumference is pretty similar (if Pepe doesn't start).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: laoislad on April 08, 2014, 10:38:15 PM
I think the two semi finals are either side of the Liverpool Chelsea game.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Shrewdness on April 08, 2014, 10:51:11 PM
That doesn't mean that Chelsea will concede to Liverpool, does it? Mourinho is a winner and still hasn't given up on the Premier League, despite what he says.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: seafoid on April 09, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
I thought PSG were a bit like Man City. Not enough experience as a group at this level.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Billys Boots on April 09, 2014, 09:05:38 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 09, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
I thought PSG were a bit like Man City. Not enough experience as a group at this level.

Yeah, they don't really impress as a unit (yet). 

Two cracking games last night - have to admit I watched the second half of the Dortmund game; they were unlucky.  It's extraordinary what that club has achieved recently. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 09, 2014, 09:07:11 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 09, 2014, 09:05:38 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 09, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
I thought PSG were a bit like Man City. Not enough experience as a group at this level.

Yeah, they don't really impress as a unit (yet). 

Two cracking games last night - have to admit I watched the second half of the Dortmund game; they were unlucky.  It's extraordinary what that club has achieved recently. 

Apparently their wage bill is lower than QPR's!!!!  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AZOffaly on April 09, 2014, 09:15:38 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 09, 2014, 09:07:11 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 09, 2014, 09:05:38 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 09, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
I thought PSG were a bit like Man City. Not enough experience as a group at this level.

Yeah, they don't really impress as a unit (yet). 

Two cracking games last night - have to admit I watched the second half of the Dortmund game; they were unlucky.  It's extraordinary what that club has achieved recently. 

Apparently their wage bill is lower than QPR's!!!!  :o

Yeah but QPR have a crazy wage bill.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 09, 2014, 09:27:59 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 09, 2014, 09:15:38 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 09, 2014, 09:07:11 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 09, 2014, 09:05:38 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 09, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
I thought PSG were a bit like Man City. Not enough experience as a group at this level.

Yeah, they don't really impress as a unit (yet). 

Two cracking games last night - have to admit I watched the second half of the Dortmund game; they were unlucky.  It's extraordinary what that club has achieved recently. 

Apparently their wage bill is lower than QPR's!!!!  :o

Yeah but QPR have a crazy wage bill.

Who are QPR's big earners these days? (aplologies on hijacking thread)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AZOffaly on April 09, 2014, 09:31:44 AM
Apparently the biggest earners are JiSung Park, Loic Remy, Chris Samba (!?!) and Julio Cesar. I'm sure Joey Barton's not cheap either.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 09, 2014, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 09, 2014, 09:31:44 AM
Apparently the biggest earners are JiSung Park, Loic Remy, Chris Samba (!?!) and Julio Cesar. I'm sure Joey Barton's not cheap either.

Jeez Samba still there. I remember hearing he was on something silly like 150k a week.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: seafoid on April 09, 2014, 09:45:54 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 09, 2014, 09:05:38 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 09, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
I thought PSG were a bit like Man City. Not enough experience as a group at this level.

Yeah, they don't really impress as a unit (yet). 

Two cracking games last night - have to admit I watched the second half of the Dortmund game; they were unlucky.  It's extraordinary what that club has achieved recently.
Klopp is a very impressive manager
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 09, 2014, 09:47:48 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 09, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
I thought PSG were a bit like Man City. Not enough experience as a group at this level.

How much experience does Manchester City and Paris Saint Germain need? the sides they were knocked out by aren't at the level they once were.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Billys Boots on April 09, 2014, 10:08:54 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 09, 2014, 09:45:54 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 09, 2014, 09:05:38 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 09, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
I thought PSG were a bit like Man City. Not enough experience as a group at this level.

Yeah, they don't really impress as a unit (yet). 

Two cracking games last night - have to admit I watched the second half of the Dortmund game; they were unlucky.  It's extraordinary what that club has achieved recently.
Klopp is a very impressive manager

What impressed me last night is that they were unlucky not to progress against Madrid - although they have played most of the season without some of their better players (injured): Bender, Subotic, Schmelzer, Gundogan, Błaszczykowski, and transferred: Kagawa and Gotze.  And they were still unlucky not to get through. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Orior on April 09, 2014, 10:23:17 AM
Would Jose be fined for leaving his play pen last night after Chelski scored their second goal?

If so, how much?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Syferus on April 09, 2014, 10:31:57 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 09, 2014, 09:47:48 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 09, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
I thought PSG were a bit like Man City. Not enough experience as a group at this level.

How much experience does Manchester City and Paris Saint Germain need? the sides they were knocked out by aren't at the level they once were.

Clesasea are an excellent side that don't have a top class striker.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: J OGorman on April 09, 2014, 10:42:27 AM
Quote from: Syferus on April 09, 2014, 10:31:57 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 09, 2014, 09:47:48 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 09, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
I thought PSG were a bit like Man City. Not enough experience as a group at this level.

How much experience does Manchester City and Paris Saint Germain need? the sides they were knocked out by aren't at the level they once were.

Clesasea are an excellent side that don't have a top class striker.

(http://fashionista.com/uploads/2012/06/304px-Daenerys_Qarth-300x472.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on April 09, 2014, 12:36:47 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 03, 2014, 09:05:02 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkRll21CAAAzi2D.png)

What a difference 6 days make.

Good to see that Jose and the players responded to my stinging criticism.  Even Luiz was half decent. :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: pullhard on April 15, 2014, 09:50:05 PM
Just got champions league and League double at 25/1!
6/1 for the league!

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2010/4/29/1272549256554/Jose-Mourinho-004.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Kidder81 on April 28, 2014, 06:42:03 PM
Saw Matt Dickinson of the Times tweeted this yesterday "Pissed Chelsea fans giving it full repertoire on train. Now Bobby Sands and chicken supper. Oh, and one crushed a beer can, with his teeth"

Nice crowd
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 30, 2014, 09:03:47 PM
Not looking good for Chelsea, 1-2 down need two goals to reach the champions league final now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2014, 09:12:57 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 30, 2014, 09:03:47 PM
Not looking good for Chelsea, 1-2 down need two goals to reach the champions league final now.

Great final, would say its the first CL derby?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AZOffaly on April 30, 2014, 09:15:22 PM
Goodnight now. Once Atletico scored and Chelsea had to start bringing on strikers, they were in big trouble.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 30, 2014, 09:15:49 PM
Make that three goals. Madrid Champions league final by the looks of it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: laoislad on April 30, 2014, 09:16:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2014, 09:12:57 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 30, 2014, 09:03:47 PM
Not looking good for Chelsea, 1-2 down need two goals to reach the champions league final now.

Great final, would say its the first CL derby?
Thank fcuk it looks like Chelsea won't make it at least we will have a decent final now and not 90 mins of watching Real try to get past the Chelsea double decker buses
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: EC Unique on April 30, 2014, 09:22:31 PM
Looking forward to the final. I'll be supporting CR7 to lift it again.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 30, 2014, 09:34:01 PM
Quote from: pullhard on April 15, 2014, 09:50:05 PM
Just got champions league and League double at 25/1!
6/1 for the league!

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2010/4/29/1272549256554/Jose-Mourinho-004.jpg)

Hope ye didn't put too much on!!!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: EC Unique on April 30, 2014, 09:40:29 PM
Hard to whack the sight of a disappointed John Terry.  Nearly as good as a gutted Stevie Me on Sunday past.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Saffrongael on April 30, 2014, 09:45:18 PM
Great achievement by Atletico, with the resources they have compared to the other semi finalists.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Shrewdness on April 30, 2014, 09:51:32 PM
Agree with EC Unique...As for Atletico, what an excellent team. Everyone of them technically brilliant, and prepared to work their socks off. Looks like a trophyless season for Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on April 30, 2014, 10:00:10 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on April 30, 2014, 09:40:29 PM
Hard to whack the sight of a disappointed John Terry.  Nearly as good as a gutted Stevie Me on Sunday past.  ;D

Actually the sight of Wazza adjusting his syrup while telling fans to f**k off is alway fun!

Chelsea have done well to reach the semi but were always going to struggle against a good team (and Sunderland).

Having said that the usual hyperbolic shite being spouted on RTE
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Armamike on April 30, 2014, 10:18:19 PM
The final should be watchable now without Chelsea stinking the place out and Mourinho's antics.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Bingo on April 30, 2014, 10:19:20 PM
Still no European trophies at Chelsea for Jose. At least Rafa got 1 in his half season there.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: stiffler on April 30, 2014, 10:20:41 PM
6 cl semis for Jose at Chelsea, 2 goals. Not good enough given the investment made.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on April 30, 2014, 10:22:08 PM
Quote from: Armamike on April 30, 2014, 10:18:19 PM
The final should be watchable now without Chelsea stinking the place out and Mourinho's antics.

You and many others seemed to have missed the first game between RM and Bayern
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Sidney on April 30, 2014, 11:12:41 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 30, 2014, 10:22:08 PM
Quote from: Armamike on April 30, 2014, 10:18:19 PM
The final should be watchable now without Chelsea stinking the place out and Mourinho's antics.

You and many others seemed to have missed the first game between RM and Bayern
It was like Liverpool v Newcastle 1996 compared to the dirge that the Portuguese dinosaur has served up this season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on April 30, 2014, 11:40:05 PM
Quote from: Sidney on April 30, 2014, 11:12:41 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 30, 2014, 10:22:08 PM
Quote from: Armamike on April 30, 2014, 10:18:19 PM
The final should be watchable now without Chelsea stinking the place out and Mourinho's antics.

You and many others seemed to have missed the first game between RM and Bayern
It was like Liverpool v Newcastle 1996 compared to the dirge that the Portuguese dinosaur has served up this season.

Still good enough to win 2-0 last Sunday :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Sidney on May 01, 2014, 12:46:46 AM
Quote from: AQMP on April 30, 2014, 11:40:05 PM
Quote from: Sidney on April 30, 2014, 11:12:41 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 30, 2014, 10:22:08 PM
Quote from: Armamike on April 30, 2014, 10:18:19 PM
The final should be watchable now without Chelsea stinking the place out and Mourinho's antics.

You and many others seemed to have missed the first game between RM and Bayern
It was like Liverpool v Newcastle 1996 compared to the dirge that the Portuguese dinosaur has served up this season.

Still good enough to win 2-0 last Sunday :P
It was down to pure, poxed luck - and far from a tactical masterclass as some of his sycophants would have you believe.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: J OGorman on May 01, 2014, 07:52:54 AM
6 defenders picked to start a home leg semi final. That's an incredible stat. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AZOffaly on May 01, 2014, 09:30:43 AM
Hazard for the doghouse, or Mourinho for United if Hazard thinks that Roman is of the same opinion? Or more likely something that just got lost in translation.

Quote"The Blues were criticised for defensive methods employed in the semi-final first leg in Madrid and in the Premier League win at Liverpool before tumbling out of Europe after a 3-1 home loss at Stamford Bridge.

"Chelsea aren't set up to play football," Belgian Hazard told beIN SPORTS' French station.

"Chelsea are set up to counter-attack - a little bit like Real against Bayern.

'I don't know what we lacked. After scoring, we had the game in our hands. Maybe they wanted it more than we did."


It was a view shared by Sky Sports' Jamie Carragher who added: "This Chelsea team at the moment does not have enough creativity to open teams up.

"Think of the attacking talent at Chelsea. But they've scored two goals in six Champions League semi-finals."

Carragher was also critical of Mourinho's substitutions after the Portuguese brought on Samuel Eto'o early in the second half with Chelsea looking for a goal to take them through. Instead the veteran striker conceded a crucial penalty which Diego Costa converted.

"I just thought it was a little bit early to go two up front," said Carragher. "It had been a tight game but as soon as they went two up front it started to open up.

"I just thought it was a little bit early and that Mourinho had patience in these big games. They only needed one goal and it was important not to concede another."

Fellow pundit Gary Neville added. "He's usually the king. He's renowned for waiting.

"I thought Chelsea would wait, probably until 10 minutes to go with five minutes of extra time there. Be at 1-1 and then think that in that little period they could build some pressure, keep the crowd up into the last part of the game. It was taken away from them in that 15 minute period after the substitution."

Unless there is a twist in the Premier League title race, Mourinho is poised to finish without a trophy for a second successive season.

Assessing his first campaign back at Stamford Bridge ahead of the closing Premier League matches, Mourinho said he clung to a dream which disappeared.

"We are realistic, but at the same time we are optimistic," he said.

"When things go in a certain direction, there is a moment where you dream and you think that things are possible, even if things are not.

"And because we did well in the Champions League and in the Premier League, there was a moment where we felt we could do it.

"In the Premier League it was the match against Aston Villa that made me believe that we had no chance to be champions.

"In the Champions League, it's the same. We knew that teams had more potential than us and were more ready than us to win the competition, but because you go step by step and beat Paris St Germain after a 3-1 defeat, you build your dream.

"And today, I think it was proved that we had our chances. Until minute 61 we were completely in the game. And 2-1 for Chelsea, or 2-1 for Atletico.

"That moment was crucial and, from that moment, the game was over. In one minute, two actions decided the game.

"Atletico's goalkeeper (Thibaut Courtois - on loan from Chelsea) makes an impossible save from John Terry's header and instead of 2-1 to Chelsea, a few seconds later a penalty. The save is amazing and the penalty is a penalty.

"After that, there was only one team on the pitch. We had immediately the feeling the game was lost."

Defender David Luiz also felt incidents early in the second half were crucial and said. "They scored when they needed to score. "We controlled the game for the first 40 minutes and then we conceded a goal at the end of the first-half and they were able to counter attack and they dictated the game.

"In the second half, they scored the second goal and then we headed the ball against the post. If it is 2-2, it is a different game and we are back in it but then they scored the third goal and that is it."

The on-loan Courtois had an impressive night for Atletico - cementing his reputation as one of the world's best young goalkeepers - and Mark Schwarzer believes he could provide some tough competition for Petr Cech next season.

"I thought he was outstanding," Schwarzer said. "He had a great game tonight. If we'd been a bit lucky and he'd been a bit unlucky we could have got back in the game and there could have been a few more nervy moments towards the end for them. It wasn't the case.

"They are both world class goalkeepers and I wouldn't say that they are at different ends of their careers because Petr still has a long way to go with his career.""
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on May 01, 2014, 09:38:49 AM
He's right that Chelsea are set up to counter attack like Real, problem is they just don't have the quality up front that Real have to make and take the chances.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Billys Boots on May 01, 2014, 09:47:14 AM
I thought they were cruising until Hazard lost Juanfran with a minute to half-time - I genuinely think that Mourinho didn't expect Atletico to be able to score last night.

I thought their fullbacks (Atletico) were outstanding last night.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AZOffaly on May 01, 2014, 09:54:21 AM
Yep, he just switched off on that cross. Very unlike what Chelsea do, they are normally so disciplined.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on May 01, 2014, 09:59:56 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 01, 2014, 09:54:21 AM
Yep, he just switched off on that cross. Very unlike what Chelsea do, they are normally so disciplined.

There's no doubt that over the two legs Atletico were the better side and deserved to win but, yes, the first goal particularly and the third goal were down to very poor defensive lapses which were quite "UnChelsea-like" and the penalty was down to a forward trying to be a defender.  Also Chelsea also looked knackered in the last 20 mins.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on May 01, 2014, 10:10:07 AM
On a more positive note, Courtois was great over the tie and is highly rated in Europe.  The plan was for him to stay at Atletico for another year.   I'd probably bring him back in the summer, Cech is slipping.  I think Matic looks like he's going to be a great player for Chelsea and will be ideal for replacing Lampard.  The gap is that they still need a 25-30 goal a season striker.  I'm not sure who will be available or who will want to come to Chelsea bar buying some duffer who has a couple of good games in the World Cup!

We go again...next season!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: johnneycool on May 01, 2014, 11:28:05 AM
Quote from: AQMP on May 01, 2014, 10:10:07 AM
On a more positive note, Courtois was great over the tie and is highly rated in Europe.  The plan was for him to stay at Atletico for another year.   I'd probably bring him back in the summer, Cech is slipping.  I think Matic looks like he's going to be a great player for Chelsea and will be ideal for replacing Lampard.  The gap is that they still need a 25-30 goal a season striker.  I'm not sure who will be available or who will want to come to Chelsea bar buying some duffer who has a couple of good games in the World Cup!

We go again...next season!

Courtois has to get a start at Chelsea next year, he's already better than Cech.
As for Matic, I think he's a good stopper in midfield, anchorman type player, but Chelsea lack a Modric type player, to get on the ball and make it happen for the wingers and striker(s), Mourinho doesn't like that type of player though with the lack of game time he gave Modric last year and the sale of Mata to Manu would suggest he prefers the more workmanlike players in his midfield.

Surprised Mourinho didn't park the bus once Chelsea took the lead, he maybe would have if he'd got to half time still in the lead.

The No6 of Athletico is some spud, had 4 chelsea lads boxing him in along the sideline and still managed to escape with the ball at his feet, was it koko??
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on May 01, 2014, 11:34:42 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 01, 2014, 11:28:05 AM
Quote from: AQMP on May 01, 2014, 10:10:07 AM
On a more positive note, Courtois was great over the tie and is highly rated in Europe.  The plan was for him to stay at Atletico for another year.   I'd probably bring him back in the summer, Cech is slipping.  I think Matic looks like he's going to be a great player for Chelsea and will be ideal for replacing Lampard.  The gap is that they still need a 25-30 goal a season striker.  I'm not sure who will be available or who will want to come to Chelsea bar buying some duffer who has a couple of good games in the World Cup!

We go again...next season!

Courtois has to get a start at Chelsea next year, he's already better than Cech.
As for Matic, I think he's a good stopper in midfield, anchorman type player, but Chelsea lack a Modric type player, to get on the ball and make it happen for the wingers and striker(s), Mourinho doesn't like that type of player though with the lack of game time he gave Modric last year and the sale of Mata to Manu would suggest he prefers the more workmanlike players in his midfield.

Surprised Mourinho didn't park the bus once Chelsea took the lead, he maybe would have if he'd got to half time still in the lead.

The No6 of Athletico is some spud, had 4 chelsea lads boxing him in along the sideline and still managed to escape with the ball at his feet, was it koko??

Aye, Koke, he looks a really good player.  You wonder why he calls himself Koke when his full name is the splendid Jorge Resurreccion Merodio
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AZOffaly on May 01, 2014, 11:38:52 AM
Maybe he's a clown?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: beer baron on May 01, 2014, 12:37:03 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 01, 2014, 11:38:52 AM
Maybe he's a clown?

This made me smile  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Shrewdness on May 01, 2014, 03:10:12 PM
Nearly sure that Mourinho said earlier this season that Courtois would not be allowed out on loan next season. Wouldn't be surprised to see Chelsea's 3 main strikers, Ba, Eto and Torres all leave this summer..A question.. Considering that he was their player of the year for the last 2 seasons, have Chelsea missed Juan Mata?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Armamike on May 01, 2014, 03:36:08 PM
Would keep Ba and get rid of Torres and Eto - they're both over the hill.  Chelsea need a striker who's on the upward curve.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2014, 08:10:58 PM
Quote from: stiffler on April 30, 2014, 10:20:41 PM
6 cl semis for Jose at Chelsea, 2 goals. Not good enough given the investment made.

I'd say 6 CL semis in 4 seasons is some record.

I don't think that'll be bettered.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: EC Unique on May 01, 2014, 08:31:37 PM
Maybe he should try Viagra if he can't get beyond a semi!  8)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: angermanagement on May 13, 2014, 11:53:51 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnghhYrCEAEWm0a.png:large)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Billys Boots on May 13, 2014, 12:18:02 PM
Report: Chelsea agree deal for Atletico Madrid's Diego Costa [rte.ie]

It is being reported this morning that Chelsea have agreed a deal to sign Atletico Madrid striker Diego Costa for €40m.

The deal with Costa is not likely to be announced for another month, after Costa's involvement in the Champions League final and the close of La Liga.

Costa has been linked to Chelsea all season with manager Jose Mourinho making no secret of his desire to sign a striker.

It's also believed that Mourinho wants to get the deal signed off as soon as possible.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on May 23, 2014, 01:22:58 PM
Looks like David Luiz is on his way to PSG.  Fee rumoured to be in region of €50 mill!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: laoislad on May 23, 2014, 01:25:20 PM
Crazy money but a good deal for Chelsea if true.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on May 23, 2014, 01:39:17 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 23, 2014, 01:25:20 PM
Crazy money but a good deal for Chelsea if true.

Looks like most of it will be wasted spent on Diego Costa.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AZOffaly on May 23, 2014, 01:45:05 PM
Seriously though? €50m for David Luiz? What is he exactly? A holding midfielder? He's not a centre half, and is not what I would consider a box to box midfielder. That seems a lot of money.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on May 23, 2014, 01:52:05 PM
This is my source. 

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/23/david-luiz-record-40m-move-psg-chelsea

OK £40 mill is approx €48 mill, but yes, huge money and Chelsea would be well advised to take their arm off!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: EC Unique on May 23, 2014, 01:54:00 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 23, 2014, 01:45:05 PM
Seriously though? €50m for David Luiz? What is he exactly? A holding midfielder? He's not a centre half, and is not what I would consider a box to box midfielder. That seems a lot of money.

Always thought of him as a bit of a liability. Can be great at times but can do some crazy stuff too. Has a tendency to bomb forward forgetting about his defensive duties.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Hotshot Hamish on May 24, 2014, 07:08:19 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 23, 2014, 01:54:00 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 23, 2014, 01:45:05 PM
Seriously though? €50m for David Luiz? What is he exactly? A holding midfielder? He's not a centre half, and is not what I would consider a box to box midfielder. That seems a lot of money.

Always thought of him as a bit of a liability. Can be great at times but can do some crazy stuff too. Has a tendency to bomb forward forgetting about his defensive duties.
Yeah I agree. The man is like a headless chicken at times.
50 million is silly money for him,no way is he worth it.
Great bit of business from Chelsea, how much did they pay for him? 25mill was it.

Quote from: AQMP on May 23, 2014, 01:39:17 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 23, 2014, 01:25:20 PM
Crazy money but a good deal for Chelsea if true.

Looks like most of it will be wasted spent on Diego Costa.
Diego Costa would be a great signing in fairness. I don't think it be wasted money.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on June 03, 2014, 11:28:24 AM
Frank Lampard confirms he's leaving Chelsea.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27673942
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: oakleaflad on June 12, 2014, 04:18:54 PM
Chelsea have signed Fabregas on a five year deal from Barcelona.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27819204 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27819204)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2014, 04:52:20 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on June 12, 2014, 04:18:54 PM
Chelsea have signed Fabregas on a five year deal from Barcelona.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27819204 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27819204)

One of AQMP's favourite players.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: magpie seanie on June 12, 2014, 05:38:08 PM
I feel sick. Getting Fabregas to replace possibly the greatest goalscoring midfielder the Premier League has ever seen. Diego Costa too. Chelsea could easily have won the league last season and will be favourites for 2014/15 no matter what.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on June 13, 2014, 09:56:04 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2014, 04:52:20 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on June 12, 2014, 04:18:54 PM
Chelsea have signed Fabregas on a five year deal from Barcelona.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27819204 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27819204)

One of AQMP's favourite players.

Looks like the wee shit will fit in at Chelsea, Dinny!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: deiseach on June 13, 2014, 10:34:01 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 12, 2014, 05:38:08 PM
I feel sick. Getting Fabregas to replace possibly the greatest goalscoring midfielder the Premier League has ever seen. Diego Costa too. Chelsea could easily have won the league last season and will be favourites for 2014/15 no matter what.

And to put the tin hat on it, it wouldn't have been possible had Man Utd not bought Mata, thus giving Chelsea some FFP leeway. Welcome to the cheap seats (relatively speaking, of course).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 13, 2014, 10:34:40 AM
Quote from: AQMP on June 13, 2014, 09:56:04 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2014, 04:52:20 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on June 12, 2014, 04:18:54 PM
Chelsea have signed Fabregas on a five year deal from Barcelona.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27819204 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27819204)

One of AQMP's favourite players.

Looks like the wee shit will fit in at Chelsea, Dinny!

:)

Not sure if he will but if Chelsea get the Fabregas Arsenal had then great signing regardless and he is a wee shit ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: foxcommander on June 13, 2014, 06:37:02 PM
Luiz gone to PSG, 

"It's a big club with a great history. It's a new step in my life and I'm impatient to play for Paris and show what I can do."

A great history? Aberdeen or Nottingham Forest have a better history. I think he means great amount of money.

reportedly 40 million paid. Did they watch that game last night and see how bad he is?

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: rodney trotter on July 07, 2014, 06:06:48 PM
Ashley Cole got a decent reception at Rome airport http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCHnToyF790
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: AQMP on July 08, 2014, 12:01:38 PM
As a person, a complete p***k to be sure, but a great player for Chelsea and still twice the footballer that tube Leighton Baines is, as the World Cup showed.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: rodney trotter on September 10, 2014, 10:01:07 AM
Some amount of players out on loan at Chelsea http://t.co/vMKlqRVOix
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Boycey on September 10, 2014, 02:13:55 PM
Seeing as someone has kindly bumped the Chelsea thread, I saw this elsewhere yesterday

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-29129402

Kerry Dixon at 52, looks like shite!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Denn Forever on September 10, 2014, 02:34:17 PM
Saw this on Classic Youtube thread.

HTTP://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytYBCOTUluo

Very funny.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: GJL on December 06, 2014, 02:54:41 PM
Invincible my arse ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 06, 2014, 04:24:46 PM
Quote from: GJL on December 06, 2014, 02:54:41 PM
Invincible my arse ;)

Looks like everyone was wrong and Jose was right. Again.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Boycey on December 06, 2014, 05:25:07 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 06, 2014, 04:24:46 PM
Quote from: GJL on December 06, 2014, 02:54:41 PM
Invincible my arse ;)

Looks like everyone was wrong and Jose was right. Again.

Not that he'd want to lose any game I'm sure Jose is quite happy that invincible rubbish is put to bed. It could have been a hindrance later in season..
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: orangeman on December 28, 2014, 07:42:12 PM
You just have to love Jose.

"I think it is a scandal because it is not a small penalty - it is a penalty like Big Ben.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: tiempo on December 28, 2014, 11:59:19 PM
Quote from: orangeman on December 28, 2014, 07:42:12 PM
You just have to love Jose.

"I think it is a scandal because it is not a small penalty - it is a penalty like Big Ben.

Talks utter toilet and is a huge hypocrit so no.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: ziggy90 on December 29, 2014, 07:56:23 AM
Is that "small" toilet or "Big Ben" toilet?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: tiempo on December 29, 2014, 01:38:41 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on December 29, 2014, 07:56:23 AM
Is that "small" toilet or "Big Ben" toilet?

Evidently
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: GJL on January 01, 2015, 07:36:50 PM
WTF?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: seafoid on January 01, 2015, 10:26:41 PM
Maybe courtois isn't as good as his press coverage.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: annapr on January 24, 2015, 04:58:44 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Agent Orange on February 17, 2015, 08:29:27 PM
Chelsea parked the bus a little earlier than usual in Paris tonight.

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/C12AIGlfc/0A0F5775-1081-496D-92D7-D27F485DED65_zpsw6wqyp7z.jpg)

@ParisNoLimit
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: Asal Mor on February 23, 2015, 11:26:19 PM
Anyone catch Mourinho on "Goals on Sunday"? I hate the whinging culture amongst managers, but I thought he was brilliant. He had a strong case too. Barnes could have ended Matic's career and they should have had a couple of penalties.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- The Champions of Europa
Post by: laoislad on February 24, 2015, 10:33:59 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on February 23, 2015, 11:26:19 PM
Anyone catch Mourinho on "Goals on Sunday"? I hate the whinging culture amongst managers, but I thought he was brilliant. He had a strong case too. Barnes could have ended Matic's career and they should have had a couple of penalties.
Had a case re Barnes maybe, but his inability to see anything wrong with incidents his own players are involved in was ridiculous but not surprising really.
The Emre Can/Costa incident for example.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 03, 2015, 07:03:47 PM
What has happened to Chelsea? Jose on borrowed time now it seems.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: mrdeeds on October 03, 2015, 09:16:36 PM
Some interview. Kevin Keeganesque.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: stew on October 03, 2015, 09:27:16 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 03, 2015, 09:16:36 PM
Some interview. Kevin Keeganesque.


Mexican standoff going on here!


Mourinho wants to be paid and get sacked, the Russian leaves the ground early and wants him to fack off but the boul Jose claims he does not want run away from his responsibilities.

He puts a sub on at the half and subs him 20 minutes later even though Fabregas and Hazard have been absolute shite all year.

This will end badly, at the moment they have players that are past it, players that dont seem to give a shite and players who are content to collect a huge check even though they are going through the motions.

Cahill is playing like a man lost, he would do well to play him in his natural position.

That interview was gas, Jose is watching a different game to the rest of us, he is as bad if not worse than our brendan these days!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 24, 2015, 11:07:45 PM
15th 🙊
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: stew on October 24, 2015, 11:33:01 PM
The petulant one refuses to talk to the press after yet another loss, him and and a coach sent off as well as Matic, even when they scored he never flinched, this man needs to be gone in the worst way< think Brendan would be a great pickup for Chelsea.  :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: ONeill on October 24, 2015, 11:34:47 PM
I used to like Chelsea. In the 80s and 90s they'd poke their head above the Liverpool, Utd and Arsenal stranglehold in a classy way. Dixon, Hoddle, Gullit, Vialli, Hughes, Leboeuf, Zola. Brilliant players or managers. Chelsea were the only side to prevent Arsenal going unbeaten in 1991.

Then the Russian arrived, the club went plastic and very few Chelsea supporters opposed it. In fact a plastic support arrived. You hear fans saying 'we want our Chelsea back' and haven't a notion of what the club used to represent. They think that means 2005.

Mourinho and his impetuousness sums it up.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: ONeill on October 24, 2015, 11:39:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 24, 2015, 11:36:49 PM
It's a feckin bizarre run of results all the same.

Too good for that run. Players must be throwing up the head.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: stew on October 25, 2015, 12:01:52 AM
The Doctor is very popular among the players, the one that he disgracefully showed up and a lot of the players were upset at the way she was treated, Pat Nevin is a man in the know and he has the inside track on the day to day goings on at Chelsea and when he says "I think such and such is going on" He knows such and such is going on.

O'Neill those names you dropped are all tremendous players from back in the day, especially Zola.

Chelsea need a new manager, they need a culture change and Jose needs a P45, I loved his interviews at one point, now he is just a miserable whinging git!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 25, 2015, 12:14:50 AM
I have read a conspiracy theory that he has fallen out with Abramovich and wants paid off to leave so doesn't give a shit about their current woes. He is definitely a strange wee man.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: stew on October 25, 2015, 03:36:05 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 25, 2015, 12:14:50 AM
I have read a conspiracy theory that he has fallen out with Abramovich and wants paid off to leave so doesn't give a shit about their current woes. He is definitely a strange wee man.

Not strange just fed up, apparently he wanted to pick the players he wanted to have, was granted that and then RA denied him so he is sulking.

Would I give him what he wanted, your bet your arse, but the russian is on a loser here, Jose will continue to flop or Jose will get his, Romans choice, the man is done.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: GJL on October 27, 2015, 11:01:11 PM
Beat again tonight! Mental.  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 27, 2015, 11:30:34 PM
Quote from: GJL on October 27, 2015, 11:01:11 PM
Beat again tonight! Mental.  :o

They were actually excellent tonight as they were last Weds and to a degree on Sat. They're having no luck at all.

Very clear tonight that the players are behind Jose all the way.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: stew on October 27, 2015, 11:53:45 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 27, 2015, 11:30:34 PM
Quote from: GJL on October 27, 2015, 11:01:11 PM
Beat again tonight! Mental.  :o

They were actually excellent tonight as they were last Weds and to a degree on Sat. They're having no luck at all.

Very clear tonight that the players are behind Jose all the way.

If he would just allow his superior players to play open football,  he should unleash Hazard not stifle him.

This team cannot catch a break but these things even themselves out for the most part, better days ahead for Chelsea I fear!

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 27, 2015, 11:58:32 PM
Quote from: stew on October 27, 2015, 11:53:45 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 27, 2015, 11:30:34 PM
Quote from: GJL on October 27, 2015, 11:01:11 PM
Beat again tonight! Mental.  :o

They were actually excellent tonight as they were last Weds and to a degree on Sat. They're having no luck at all.

Very clear tonight that the players are behind Jose all the way.

If he would just allow his superior players to play open football,  he should unleash Hazard not stifle him.

This team cannot catch a break but these things even themselves out for the most part, better days ahead for Chelsea I fear!

Funny the way the game panned out tonight we had to take the handbrake off and it was so good to see.

Young Traore and Kennedy were such a breath of fresh air.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: GJL on November 07, 2015, 07:24:12 PM
Jose is fcuked.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 07:34:00 PM
Quote from: GJL on November 07, 2015, 07:24:12 PM
Jose is fcuked.

So the Liverpool game wasn't a fluke... The players are trying their best to get rid of Jose
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Orior on November 07, 2015, 08:27:07 PM
Jose is nearly bigger than Larry Reilly.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 07, 2015, 08:38:04 PM
Jose must have got iron clad contract on his return to Chelsea. Under normal circumstances a impatient Roman Abramovich would have sacked Mourinho weeks ago.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: seafoid on November 08, 2015, 09:12:49 PM
It's mad to think they were champions in April. What a meltdown.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: stew on November 09, 2015, 01:13:47 AM
Quote from: seafoid on November 08, 2015, 09:12:49 PM
It's mad to think they were champions in April. What a meltdown.

I have never seen anything like it, well once maybe, when Tyrone kicked a penalty over the bar thinking the game was over.......................... It was not! )  That was compulsive viewing. )

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: pullhard on December 15, 2015, 10:50:00 AM
The bad start continues.

RA has been unusually reversed in pulling the trigger.

I like Jose, but this season is very strange
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: AZOffaly on December 15, 2015, 10:52:25 AM
His comment about his hard work being betrayed by the players is a bit harsh.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 15, 2015, 10:55:32 AM
I don't like the man but the returning midfielder just stopped when Azpilicueta was closing down Ryaaz. Ball was in the net seconds after!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: pullhard on December 15, 2015, 10:57:30 AM
thought that harsh myself, but in light of the example by WC, hes right, ive ran fast in 5 a side.

Will he last until christmas?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: deiseach on December 15, 2015, 11:06:47 AM
For now, every time I see a (http://209.200.237.116/~gaabo3/board/Themes/default/images/english/new.gif) post in this thread I'll be wondering whether he has been canned.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Billys Boots on December 15, 2015, 11:50:23 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 15, 2015, 10:52:25 AM
His comment about his hard work being betrayed by the players is a bit harsh.

It's a strange thing for a manager to say publicly alright, though it's fair in principle if (as he said) he identified 4 particular threats from Leicester, worked on them for 4 days, and 2 of them came through for Leicester.  Might be best for all concerned, him included, if he departed. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 15, 2015, 11:52:55 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 15, 2015, 10:52:25 AM
His comment about his hard work being betrayed by the players is a bit harsh.

It was very egotistical,  even for The Special One!  I wonder why he hasn't been sacked yet,  maybe Roman can't get a short term fill in till Pep joins them in the summer.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: pullhard on December 15, 2015, 12:09:37 PM
Thought Pep was for Manchester?

Would Pep join a team, if they weren't in the champions league?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: MoChara on December 15, 2015, 12:18:41 PM
I'd say there's a fair chance Roman is busy with the oil industry in Russia being predicted to hit circa 30$ a barrel, His hobby might have to wait while he gets work sorted lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 15, 2015, 01:03:48 PM
http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/12/15/chelsea-confirm-record-bid-for-leicesters-35-points-ahead-of-transfer-window/

QuoteFOLLOWING Leicester City's impressive dismantling of an incresingly anemic looking Chelsea side, Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich has given the greenlight for a sensational transfer bid for the league leader's points total.
With Chelsea hovering dangeorusly over the relation zone after successive losses to Premier League heavyweights Bournemouth and Leicester, many football experts speculated that with the January transfer window fast approaching Chelsea would spend their way out of trouble, and if their opening bid for Leicester's 35 points haul is any indication that's exactly what they're aiming to do.


"A club, a big club like Chelsea are always in market for the best of the best," a dejected Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho explained to the press after his side's latest loss.
"We cannot lie, Leicester has some of the best points in the league, and a club like Chelsea is always looking for the best points, I say it to the owner, this club needs new points, and he answers my praying," Mourinho added before spending the next 43 minutes explaining why his current squad of players are immense disappointments to everyone they have ever known.
Chelsea haven't revealed how much they have bid for Leicester's 10 wins, 5 draws and 1 loss but it is expected to be in the region of £200 million such is the scarcity of good quality points in the current football transfer market.
"We are champions, and champions need the points of champions, to be champions – this is necessary," a haunted looking Mourinho said directly into the camera before raising a begging bowl into view.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Clov on December 15, 2015, 03:41:07 PM
Quote from: deiseach on December 15, 2015, 11:06:47 AM
For now, every time I see a (http://209.200.237.116/~gaabo3/board/Themes/default/images/english/new.gif) post in this thread I'll be wondering whether he has been canned.

Still there.

Will keep you posted.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: deiseach on December 15, 2015, 03:45:11 PM
Thanks Clov. I'm sure you'll have the inside scoop.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 15, 2015, 03:56:05 PM
Worst title defence since Leeds United in 1993 when they just avoided relegation.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: seafoid on December 15, 2015, 09:42:41 PM
There must be a curse for winners of the PL. First Man Utd and now Chelsea. It can only be a matter of time before Man City collapse. Liverpool are probably lucky to have such a mediocre team.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: GJL on December 16, 2015, 10:41:40 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35110013 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35110013)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: laoislad on December 16, 2015, 11:02:38 AM
Where's Norf Tyrone gone these days.... ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2015, 11:14:58 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 15, 2015, 03:56:05 PM
Worst title defence since Leeds United in 1993 when they just avoided relegation.

That was a rare one.

After winning the league, they brought in Rocastle and Sellars and lost Snodin and Cantona. Remained formidable at home but I think they never won away once in the league.

Can't recall if anyone was injured but Strachan, Batty, McAllister, Speed, Dorigo and Wallace definitely played a lot.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 16, 2015, 11:29:24 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 16, 2015, 11:02:38 AM
Where's Norf Tyrone gone these days.... ;)

He hasn't gone away you know.

Give me 1st followed by 15th every day as opposed to finishing 7th every year.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: AZOffaly on December 17, 2015, 09:19:44 AM
Touché

what if it's first followed by 18th though?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: seafoid on December 17, 2015, 09:50:47 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 17, 2015, 09:19:44 AM
Touché

what if it's first followed by 18th though?
First followed by 25 is probably worse.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 17, 2015, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 17, 2015, 09:19:44 AM
Touché

what if it's first followed by 18th though?

18th in Div 1/ Premier League was good when I started following them, so it'll not be a new experience. Looking forward to trips to Rotterham, Wolves and the like next season already.

Is it like the GAA? We win the Championship (League) and we're immune from relegation?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: AZOffaly on December 17, 2015, 10:14:44 AM
Quote from: seafoid on December 17, 2015, 09:50:47 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 17, 2015, 09:19:44 AM
Touché

what if it's first followed by 18th though?
First followed by 25 is probably worse.

You have an awful chip about Liverpool. Relax about it :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2015, 02:44:59 PM
Gone?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Green Fields on December 17, 2015, 02:49:21 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34670192 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34670192)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: laoislad on December 17, 2015, 02:51:00 PM
Brodge until the end of the season?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: AZOffaly on December 17, 2015, 02:54:00 PM
It is an amazing story. He just seems to be a lad that has an instant impact, and very shortly pisses off loads of people, including eventually his players.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Rossie11 on December 17, 2015, 03:00:20 PM
Pity.. i was hoping he would last the season and have the ultimate humiliation of been involved in the relegation dogfight..

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: deiseach on December 17, 2015, 03:04:41 PM
Ah bugger, they'll get in someone who is not a jackass like Jurgen Klo . . . oh.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: pullhard on December 17, 2015, 03:05:33 PM
Quote from: Rossie11 on December 17, 2015, 03:00:20 PM
Pity.. i was hoping he would last the season and have the ultimate humiliation of been involved in the relegation dogfight..

Big 6 pointer at the weekend
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: mouview on December 17, 2015, 03:07:27 PM
Damn. You mightn't, probably don't, like him but the Premier league is a much duller place without him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: AZOffaly on December 17, 2015, 03:20:02 PM
I don't think it's duller, or if it is, it's a better kind of dull. I'm all for characters, but I think he was acting like a dick, so I won't be sorry if he doesn't come back to the Premier League again.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 17, 2015, 03:23:43 PM
Martin O'Neill as interim?  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2015, 03:23:56 PM
I'd say Chelsea's results will improve from here on in.... Can't see Brendan coming in

Terry may step in for a bit
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 17, 2015, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2015, 03:23:56 PM
I'd say Chelsea's results will improve from here on in.... Can't see Brendan coming in

Terry may step in for a bit

Step in for a bit of what?  Eva is gone so... :-*
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: seafoid on December 17, 2015, 03:32:08 PM
Anthony Cunningham
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: blewuporstuffed on December 17, 2015, 03:46:50 PM
The Guardian saying that Hidink is the one lined up to take Chelsea until the end of the season
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: general_lee on December 17, 2015, 03:53:03 PM
They can have van Gaal. I'd love Jose at Utd
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: J70 on December 17, 2015, 03:56:43 PM
On the surface, this is insane! If anyone has earned a chance to overcome a loss of team form, its Mourinho! They're turning into Real Madrid - bring in a manager, throw tonnes of money and star players at him, watch him win or come close to winning trophies, and at the first sign of trouble, out the door!

Since Mourinho last time, we've had Grant, Ancellotti, Hiddink, Benitez, Villas Boas, Scolari and Matteo. The only ones who didn't win a significant trophy and could be labeled failures were Villas Boas and, especially, Scolari. Grant won nothing, but lost a Champions League final and his job due to a John Terry slip. But all have been shipped out the door fairly unceremoniously. I guess Chelsea is the place to go if you want to add a trophy or a final to your CV, but its not a place where you'll be allowed to build anything significant. But then again, its going that way for most teams, minus the trophy part.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: JoG2 on December 17, 2015, 04:18:59 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 17, 2015, 03:53:03 PM
They can have van Gaal. I'd love Jose at Utd

Do bragging rights down the local mean that much to you?

Mourinho and Chelsea,  the perfect match. Would like to have enjoyed a few more MotD's before he departed
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: gallsman on December 17, 2015, 06:10:43 PM
Quote from: mouview on December 17, 2015, 03:07:27 PM
Damn. You mightn't, probably don't, like him but the Premier league is a much duller place without him.

Not this time. Most fans and media are bored with his schtick by now. Besides that, the Carneiro saga removed any last vestige of him being a loveable rogue, a scamp spectacularly good at mental warfare etc and confirmed him to be precisely what most thought him to be - a ****.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Boycey on December 17, 2015, 06:29:38 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 17, 2015, 06:10:43 PM
Quote from: mouview on December 17, 2015, 03:07:27 PM
Damn. You mightn't, probably don't, like him but the Premier league is a much duller place without him.

Not this time. Most fans and media are bored with his schtick by now. Besides that, the Carneiro saga removed any last vestige of him being a loveable rogue, a scamp spectacularly good at mental warfare etc and confirmed him to be precisely what most thought him to be - a ****.

I'd disagree with that slightly, personally I've always found his behavior abhorrent but while he's winning the media especially will lap it up but in a season like this they'll turn on him pretty quick..
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: gallsman on December 17, 2015, 06:46:17 PM
Maybe, but I think people just got bored of him this time.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: seafoid on December 17, 2015, 07:06:14 PM
Maureen signed a 52 m contract 4 months ago. Maybe he walks away with 20. He doesnt need the hassle of rebuilding Chelsea and getting rid of captain leader legend and co.The money in soccer is obscene. Spoilt arseholes all involved. Zero class. The worst of sport.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Main Street on December 17, 2015, 07:35:42 PM
Undoubtably a King Lear sized tragic figure, as the most transparent patholigical narcissist in the game, descended deeper into a state  of madness with each passing week, the genius of the man sadly betrayed by his own (not chelsea's) players who were even too dumb to follow his blueprints on how to beat relegation fodder teams.

I was kinda hoping he would linger on until PSG mercilessly kicked his football corpse into touch.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Armamike on December 17, 2015, 08:44:54 PM
Mourinho has made a lot of enemies over the years.  He seemed to use this to develop a siege mentality and unite his own players - it's us against the world etc.  Now it seems with all his antics he's managed to alienate his own players.  Maybe his wife still loves him.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Line Ball on December 17, 2015, 08:54:51 PM
The problems all began with the Doctor - apparently if members of the playing squad and management had kept it in their pants, then things would have been better.  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: imtommygunn on December 17, 2015, 09:11:57 PM
The man is an idiot.

Too many mind games. When the going got tough turned on his players too.

All about me me me.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: imtommygunn on December 17, 2015, 09:42:43 PM
Supposed to have been 12 million per year of contract. He is up there with being as hard to like as ferguson.

Always remember about him the shit he stirred against barcelona and frisk who ended up quitting over it.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: seafoid on December 17, 2015, 09:48:52 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 17, 2015, 09:42:43 PM
Supposed to have been 12 million per year of contract. He is up there with being as hard to like as ferguson.

Always remember about him the shit he stirred against barcelona and frisk who ended up quitting over it.
I think the older generation of managers had far more class. Maureen has something vile about him. His Real team reflected that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: imtommygunn on December 17, 2015, 10:04:59 PM
Fergie aside i'd agree. I was glad to see how real treated him. Really not a fan at all. Me me me.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: stew on December 17, 2015, 10:41:26 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 17, 2015, 03:53:03 PM
They can have van Gaal. I'd love Jose at Utd

Are you for real? Have you actually watched the stye of football his team's play,? The word dirge comes to mind.

I used to like him but he is a multi millionaire who looks like he licks pish off a nettle, the man is angry yet has the world by the balls, I have no gra for the man anymore.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: seafoid on December 17, 2015, 10:44:14 PM
I wonder if Chelski will try to get Pep. Or is he already promised to another woman? Very few galactico managers left now with credibility.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/dec/17/chelsea-next-manager-simeone-slutsky
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: seafoid on December 17, 2015, 11:26:00 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/dec/17/adeus-jose-a-fittingly-operatic-departure-for-the-games-first-celebrity-manager

This is a brutal, relentlessly exhausting business. Most managers get 10 years at the very top. Mourinho has had 12. For a man who is essentially a self-made phenomenon, powered by brains and chutzpah, by always being the smartest and most provocative guy in the room, it has been a draining and indeed diminishing run of success
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: deiseach on December 18, 2015, 09:06:58 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 17, 2015, 09:42:43 PM
Supposed to have been 12 million per year of contract. He is up there with being as hard to like as ferguson.

Always remember about him the shit he stirred against barcelona and frisk who ended up quitting over it.

His smearing of the ambulance service (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2006/oct/18/newsstory.sport) in Berkshire over the injury Petr Cech received at the knee of Stephen Hunt was far worse:

QuoteMourinho's version

"My goalkeeper was in the dressing room for 30 minutes waiting for an ambulance. The ambulance could not go in the direction of the dressing room. He could not leave the dressing room properly. He had to go in a wheelchair in the lift when he had the injury. He left 30 minutes after my doctor called for an urgent ambulance. If my goalkeeper dies in that dressing room or in the process it is something English football has to think about."

South Central NHS trust version

17.15 Cech injured

17.20 Cech taken to dressing room. Chelsea doctor does not think ambulance necessary

17.45 Cech's condition deteriorates and Chelsea doctor requests ambulance

17.52 Ambulance arrives at Madejski Stadium

18.11 Ambulance arrives at Royal Berkshire hospital

A maggot. He will not be missed.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: GJL on December 18, 2015, 09:58:51 AM
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/1505503_962566937157999_2130979687109652774_n.jpg?oh=ead479876ac902bb0c14f51c4f60fc2f&oe=56D71ECF)

He had his good days....
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: blewuporstuffed on December 18, 2015, 10:16:54 AM
Quote from: GJL on December 18, 2015, 09:58:51 AM
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/1505503_962566937157999_2130979687109652774_n.jpg?oh=ead479876ac902bb0c14f51c4f60fc2f&oe=56D71ECF)

He had his good days....

Yeah your right.
Lets remember the good days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALzaktL8c28 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALzaktL8c28)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: seafoid on December 18, 2015, 10:17:49 AM
Quote from: GJL on December 18, 2015, 09:58:51 AM
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/1505503_962566937157999_2130979687109652774_n.jpg?oh=ead479876ac902bb0c14f51c4f60fc2f&oe=56D71ECF)

He had his good days....
Anyone involved in the EPL touching the badge makes me sick. It is all about the money.
GAA is about place and muintir but modern soccer is mercenary
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: laoislad on December 18, 2015, 10:28:45 AM
We get it seafoid.You don't like soccer.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: thebigfella on December 18, 2015, 10:30:14 AM
Quote from: laoislad on December 18, 2015, 10:28:45 AM
We get it seafoid.You don't like soccer.

And Jews. He's not a fan of those either ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 18, 2015, 10:34:16 AM
Quote from: deiseach on December 18, 2015, 09:06:58 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 17, 2015, 09:42:43 PM
Supposed to have been 12 million per year of contract. He is up there with being as hard to like as ferguson.

Always remember about him the shit he stirred against barcelona and frisk who ended up quitting over it.

His smearing of the ambulance service (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2006/oct/18/newsstory.sport) in Berkshire over the injury Petr Cech received at the knee of Stephen Hunt was far worse:

QuoteMourinho's version

"My goalkeeper was in the dressing room for 30 minutes waiting for an ambulance. The ambulance could not go in the direction of the dressing room. He could not leave the dressing room properly. He had to go in a wheelchair in the lift when he had the injury. He left 30 minutes after my doctor called for an urgent ambulance. If my goalkeeper dies in that dressing room or in the process it is something English football has to think about."

South Central NHS trust version

17.15 Cech injured

17.20 Cech taken to dressing room. Chelsea doctor does not think ambulance necessary

17.45 Cech's condition deteriorates and Chelsea doctor requests ambulance

17.52 Ambulance arrives at Madejski Stadium

18.11 Ambulance arrives at Royal Berkshire hospital

A maggot. He will not be missed.

Mourinho sometimes got the point right in the wrong way.

The issue here and he probably could've done a better job getting it across was that here is a big event, with 20,000 people in attendance and no ambulance present. Why did an ambulance have to be dispatched at all?

I read since that Mourinho's outburst caused a review of ambulance services at games and indeed it was this review that saved Fabrice Muamba's life.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/mar/18/fabrice-muamba-medical-rules (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/mar/18/fabrice-muamba-medical-rules)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: laoislad on December 18, 2015, 10:42:35 AM
Quote from: GJL on December 18, 2015, 09:58:51 AM
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He had his good days....
Being beaten in 2 Champions League semi finals by Liverpool would make a man like Jose bitter alright.
No wonder he reacted like that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: deiseach on December 18, 2015, 10:45:59 AM
Quote from: laoislad on December 18, 2015, 10:42:35 AM
Being beaten in 2 Champions League semi finals by Liverpool would make a man like Jose bitter alright.
No wonder he reacted like that.

This isn't real, but when the legend is better than the truth...

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Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Billys Boots on December 18, 2015, 11:18:49 AM
QuoteGAA is about place and muintir but modern soccer is mercenary

Most grass-roots sports clubs are about place and people - it's not confined to GAA.  Modern professional sport is mercenary; no need to single out a particular sport. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: AZOffaly on December 18, 2015, 11:23:00 AM
GAA is more associated with Parish though, I think you know what he means. Not sure what it has to do with Chelsea though :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Billys Boots on December 18, 2015, 11:31:39 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 18, 2015, 11:23:00 AM
GAA is more associated with Parish though, I think you know what he means. Not sure what it has to do with Chelsea though :)

A 'parish' is an artificial religious construct with no place in the modern world - I have no idea what he means.  :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: AZOffaly on December 18, 2015, 11:34:59 AM
OK, I'll come at it a different way. When you ask nearly anyone in Ireland where they come from, one of the first things that you relate to that place is the GAA club/county. There is a sense of identity associated with the local GAA club, that just isn't there for other sports.  Is that sufficiently secular? :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Billys Boots on December 18, 2015, 11:57:05 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 18, 2015, 11:34:59 AM
OK, I'll come at it a different way. When you ask nearly anyone in Ireland where they come from, one of the first things that you relate to that place is the GAA club/county. There is a sense of identity associated with the local GAA club, that just isn't there for other sports.  Is that sufficiently secular? :)

I think that might be true of some parts of rural Ireland, but not generally.  For a man that works in Limerick, I thought you might have some concept of this ...  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: AZOffaly on December 18, 2015, 12:04:52 PM
I think of it the opposite way around. Generally its true apart from some parts of big Irish cities. And believe me that applies in Limerick too. Munster is Munster but a lad will tell you he's from Patrickswell or Scarrif or Tipp town before he'd say Munster, and the identification in most (not all obviously) will be with Limerick, Clare or Tipp GAA and the local club.

I don't see this as a slight on soccer or rugby by the way, its just a characteristic of the gaa which is reinforced by the old parish rules etc
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: mouview on December 18, 2015, 12:09:46 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on December 18, 2015, 11:31:39 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 18, 2015, 11:23:00 AM
GAA is more associated with Parish though, I think you know what he means. Not sure what it has to do with Chelsea though :)

A 'parish' is an artificial religious construct with no place in the modern world - I have no idea what he means.  :P

Ridiculous. Townlands merge into parishes, merge into counties, merge into a country. All of these very often bounded by geographical / natural constraints also. Nothing artificial about that and they can and do survive now as distinct entities regardless of the presence or absence of religion.

Letters merge into words, merge into sentences, merge into paragraphs, compositions etc. Letters = parishes = essential components.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Billys Boots on December 18, 2015, 12:18:40 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 18, 2015, 12:04:52 PM
I think of it the opposite way around. Generally its true apart from some parts of big Irish cities. And believe me that applies in Limerick too. Munster is Munster but a lad will tell you he's from Patrickswell or Scarrif or Tipp town before he'd say Munster, and the identification in most (not all obviously) will be with Limerick, Clare or Tipp GAA and the local club.

I don't see this as a slight on soccer or rugby by the way, its just a characteristic of the gaa which is reinforced by the old parish rules etc

Maybe I don't get out enough, but that's definitely not my experience. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: deiseach on December 18, 2015, 12:26:52 PM
Jose Mourinho is from the Portuguese equivalent of Tyrone/Dublin (delete according to preference).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: AZOffaly on December 18, 2015, 12:38:52 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on December 18, 2015, 12:18:40 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 18, 2015, 12:04:52 PM
I think of it the opposite way around. Generally its true apart from some parts of big Irish cities. And believe me that applies in Limerick too. Munster is Munster but a lad will tell you he's from Patrickswell or Scarrif or Tipp town before he'd say Munster, and the identification in most (not all obviously) will be with Limerick, Clare or Tipp GAA and the local club.

I don't see this as a slight on soccer or rugby by the way, its just a characteristic of the gaa which is reinforced by the old parish rules etc

Maybe I don't get out enough, but that's definitely not my experience.

You get out alright :) Maybe I'm just projecting my own associations on everyone else, but I don't think so. Dublin is probably different alright, and it's more about the 'club' than the 'parish'. There's not as much of 'those hoors in Bally'.

But down the country, I think I'm pretty close to the mark.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: seafoid on December 18, 2015, 01:14:08 PM
I think soccer fans are patronised by the clubs. Dunphy's soccer belongs to the fans would be more of the same. There are issues of identity and belonging associated with being a fan but it seems to me to be mostly one way. For plc football clubs fans are cash cows. Maybe all pro sport is like this.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 07, 2016, 03:44:35 PM
Dr Carneiro 1 Chelsea 0

At least Chelsea apologised, that other pr*ck showing his usual class and not apologizing.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: MasterShake on January 19, 2017, 04:26:12 PM
Hi folks, anyone here any idea how to go about getting a ticket for the Chelsea-Arsenal match on 4th Feb? Asking for a mate of mine (Chelsea fan) travelling from the States.

Cheers.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 19, 2017, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: MasterShake on January 19, 2017, 04:26:12 PM
Hi folks, anyone here any idea how to go about getting a ticket for the Chelsea-Arsenal match on 4th Feb? Asking for a mate of mine (Chelsea fan) travelling from the States.

Cheers.

I can keep an eye out for you.

I am actually heading to that game too. I didnt think.Id get a ticket but managed to scrounge, steal and borrow 5. Group of us heading over.

Send me a PM with your contact details so I can get a message to you quick if something comes up.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Minder on January 22, 2017, 06:47:17 PM
Conte doing some job with Chelsea
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: GJL on March 06, 2017, 09:49:01 PM
Champions elect.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Denn Forever on March 07, 2017, 12:27:23 PM
Quote from: GJL on March 06, 2017, 09:49:01 PM
Champions elect.

Not yet.  Supposedly colluding with Russians.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Fuzzman on April 07, 2017, 03:10:51 PM
Was gonna bring my oldest lad over to a game in Stamford bridge in the next month if possible.
Would it be very hard to get a ticket outside the ground for 2?

Any of ye season ticket holders?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2015
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 07, 2017, 05:01:54 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 07, 2017, 03:10:51 PM
Was gonna bring my oldest lad over to a game in Stamford bridge in the next month if possible.
Would it be very hard to get a ticket outside the ground for 2?

Any of ye season ticket holders?

You will get tickets outside, but you will pay big money, around £150- £200 a ticket, especially considering the position Chelsea are in.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: Fuzzman on January 17, 2018, 04:44:53 PM
Jeepers this thread doesn't get much use these days

A bit like two posts earlier I was gonna try to bring 2 of my lads over to the Bournemouth Wed night game WEd 31st jan as flights are cheap but again their website says sold out
I'd nearly go over anyway and try to get in but its easier when on your own and you only need wan ticket.
Any season ticket holders on here or anyone know anyone in West London who might be able to help?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 18, 2018, 11:14:30 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on January 17, 2018, 04:44:53 PM
Jeepers this thread doesn't get much use these days

A bit like two posts earlier I was gonna try to bring 2 of my lads over to the Bournemouth Wed night game WEd 31st jan as flights are cheap but again their website says sold out
I'd nearly go over anyway and try to get in but its easier when on your own and you only need wan ticket.
Any season ticket holders on here or anyone know anyone in West London who might be able to help?

Is it 3 x tickets you need Fuzz?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: Fuzzman on January 19, 2018, 10:28:16 AM
I need 2 adult and 2 kids but I'd settle for 1 adult and 1 kid
Whatsapp/FB me if any news.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 14, 2018, 09:36:24 PM
Have the Chelsea lads all quit?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 14, 2018, 09:44:44 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 14, 2018, 09:36:24 PM
Have the Chelsea lads all quit?
A lot of errors tonight and punished every time.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: Hound on March 14, 2018, 09:47:31 PM
I thought Willian was superb.

Giroud looked like someone picked up at the Red Cow Roundabout.

They got no breaks, but Barca just so clinical.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: Asal Mor on March 15, 2018, 09:08:37 AM
Quote from: Hound on March 14, 2018, 09:47:31 PM
I thought Willian was superb.

Giroud looked like someone picked up at the Red Cow Roundabout.

They got no breaks, but Barca just so clinical.
+1
Chelsea could easily have won over the two legs and Barca look very beatable these days. Messi looked as good as ever but I'd be confident City would take them.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: Minder on March 15, 2018, 09:11:03 AM
They had a go, that's all you can ask
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2018, 09:26:40 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 15, 2018, 09:11:03 AM
They had a go, that's all you can ask

They had a go? they were bate 3-0!

This have ago attitude and being hard to beat debate is a theme now it seems, rather get hammered 3-0 but at least have a go seems to be the way forward.. If you manage a team you have to work out the strengths and weaknesses of the other team, not just go out lads and give it a lash, sure if you're bate then at leaset you died with your boots on..

Lets see how many titles you win with that idea, its fine if you have the players and squad to do that, Chelsea very recently were beat 2-1 by Utd after going a goal up! why it seems going to Barca and giving it a lash would be the best approach is beyond me..

Utd though have went ultra defensive and ruined a very attacking team, whereas City have the right mix of tactics, forward play and defence, but the midfield control the game. Pep also studies other teams I'd assume..

Chelsea had enough play but allowing Messi space is madness, I got in late last night forgot the match was on and was going to have a £5 bet on Messi to score first, 3/1 he was but ended up starting to make dinner, remembered went to phone and the match had only started about to hit the bet and the screen closed, messi had scored! 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: Asal Mor on March 15, 2018, 09:33:10 AM
It was individual mistakes that cost them at the back, Courtois especially. Up front they were unlucky with hitting the woodwork in both legs. Willian could have done with more help from the surprisingly poor Hazard and the less surprisingly poor Giroud.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: seafoid on September 25, 2018, 12:57:37 PM
Abramovitch has been denied residency rights in Switzerland due to presumed mafia links

https://www.letemps.ch/suisse/suisse-ne-voulait-roman-abramovitch-une-menace-securite-publique
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: gawa316 on August 24, 2020, 04:52:59 PM
Chelsea fairly spunking the rubles...supposedly deal with Havertz and Thiago Silva done, Chilwell to follow and already having spent a 100 odd million on Werner and Ziyech

Edit...the title could do with a wee update!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: GetOverTheBar on August 24, 2020, 04:58:47 PM
Few ones giving off about the cash they spent but sure they got just under 180 million Euro from Hazard and Morata....they could spent even more considering the City FFP carry on and the fact they didn't spend last summer.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: gawa316 on August 24, 2020, 05:15:40 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on August 24, 2020, 04:58:47 PM
Few ones giving off about the cash they spent but sure they got just under 180 million Euro from Hazard and Morata....they could spent even more considering the City FFP carry on and the fact they didn't spend last summer.

The year before last they spent 200 euro, last season although with the transfer ban they still spent 45 mil on Kovacic, then this summer will be close to 300 mil  (Werner 53 mil, Ziyech 40, Havertz 100, Chilwell 80?, Thiago Silver ??). Half a billion in 3 years is mad...even saying they have brought in over 200 mil in sales
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: rodney trotter on August 24, 2020, 05:30:06 PM
They'll need more then Thiago Silva and Chilwell for the defence.  Silva a good player, but 35, wether he'll adapt to a premier League. Defence was their real let down last season.
They are looking to offload Kepa, so an improvement on him would be needed in nets .

Tammy Abraham will be well down the mix with all the attacking options, after starting last season well.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: gawa316 on August 24, 2020, 06:05:53 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 24, 2020, 05:30:06 PM
They'll need more then Thiago Silva and Chilwell for the defence.  Silva a good player, but 35, wether he'll adapt to a premier League. Defence was their real let down last season.
They are looking to offload Kepa, so an improvement on him would be needed in nets .

Tammy Abraham will be well down the mix with all the attacking options, after starting last season well.

Attacking options will be Tammy, Giroud, Mount, Werner, Ziyech, Hudson, Havertz, Pulisic...even Barkley...theres a lot of players to keep happy
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on August 24, 2020, 06:13:39 PM
Id say Giroud will go. Surely Hudson Odoi who wasnt happy before this influx will have to go to get playing time.

Some good players on paper being brought in anyway...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: Armamike on August 24, 2020, 08:54:16 PM
They still have a novice manager!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 24, 2020, 11:18:08 PM
This summer after signing Wener and Ziyech the net spend is just £17m with Morata and Pasallic the two heavy outs.
Last summer was a profit of £100m.
Summer 2018 was a spend of £120m.

So in 3 x seasons it's a net spend of £37 million.

There will likely be a few more outs this window, Zappacosta, Emerson, Batshuyi, Bakayoko which will easily take that number to neutral.

So only purchases from here in will be out of the bank as such.


Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC- Premier League Champions 2017
Post by: TabClear on August 25, 2020, 08:48:47 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 24, 2020, 11:18:08 PM
This summer after signing Wener and Ziyech the net spend is just £17m with Morata and Pasallic the two heavy outs.
Last summer was a profit of £100m.
Summer 2018 was a spend of £120m.

So in 3 x seasons it's a net spend of £37 million.

There will likely be a few more outs this window, Zappacosta, Emerson, Batshuyi, Bakayoko which will easily take that number to neutral.

So only purchases from here in will be out of the bank as such.

Thats pretty impressive especially given the age profile of the signings. If Chelsea sign a couple of decent defenders they will be hard to beat this year. Like Liverpool (with Couthinho) it shows how one big money transfer out can completely overhaul a team for little net spend in reinvested properly in a targetted fashion (VVD/Allison). Unfortunately it can also be completely wasted a la the Suarez money if you try to spread it too thinly.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Dearg on February 13, 2021, 08:44:47 AM
Frank should never been appointed in hindsight.
Tuchel looks to have them motoring already. From struggling to finish Top 10 Chelsea are already now back in with a shout for Top 4.
I expect them to be Manchester City and Liverpool's main title challengers next season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: Capt Pat on February 15, 2023, 09:46:43 PM
Chelsea fall behind to a counter attack goal where the Dortmund players first touch takes him clear. Mudryk gets a chance where his first touch will put him through on goal and he misses the ball.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of Chelsea FC
Post by: thewobbler on February 15, 2023, 09:49:43 PM
This week's ties are kind of proving that there's not much difference in quality between a £10m player and a £80m player, except all the £80m players are hanging out in the PL, getting richer and unfulfilled.