East wall #Irelandisfull

[whitey]

The Whiteys of the World only see black skin or Muslim sounding names to get outraged.
They dont notice or feel the need to  comment on crimes by people who look like themselves or have "white" sounding names.

Absolute racists.
 

So it's racist to expect immigration law to be properly enforced and "foreign" criminals to be deported? (where appropriate)

There have been home grown Irish criminals since the foundation of the state.

Are you suggesting that because some Irish people are criminals, we should open our borders to criminals from other countries and not make any effort to prevent "bad apples" from coming in? 

(Doesn't make much sense to me)

[burdizzo]

Congratulations. You're able to pull up individual cases of crimes committed by immigrants. Would you like me to start pulling up cases of locals committing crime as if that's some sort of "gotcha" moment?

If you're talking about the grooming gangs in northern England as 'individual cases', then you really need to look a bit more deeply at what went on.

What grooming gang would that be? Jimmy Saville and his mates like Gary Glitter?

But those cases are very well known. The Asian grooming gangs and the "hands-off" approach taken by authorities seems to be lesser so - at least, judging by your apparent ignorance.

[Eamonnca1]

Congratulations. You're able to pull up individual cases of crimes committed by immigrants. Would you like me to start pulling up cases of locals committing crime as if that's some sort of "gotcha" moment?

If you're talking about the grooming gangs in northern England as 'individual cases', then you really need to look a bit more deeply at what went on.

What grooming gang would that be? Jimmy Saville and his mates like Gary Glitter?

But those cases are very well known. The Asian grooming gangs and the "hands-off" approach taken by authorities seems to be lesser so - at least, judging by your apparent ignorance.

Yeah, it would have been awful if the authorities had taken a "hands off" approach to Saville.

[burdizzo]

Congratulations. You're able to pull up individual cases of crimes committed by immigrants. Would you like me to start pulling up cases of locals committing crime as if that's some sort of "gotcha" moment?

If you're talking about the grooming gangs in northern England as 'individual cases', then you really need to look a bit more deeply at what went on.

What grooming gang would that be? Jimmy Saville and his mates like Gary Glitter?

But those cases are very well known. The Asian grooming gangs and the "hands-off" approach taken by authorities seems to be lesser so - at least, judging by your apparent ignorance.

Yeah, it would have been awful if the authorities had taken a "hands off" approach to Saville.

Both cases highlight how the established organs of the media cannot be trusted!

[Milltown Row2]

Congratulations. You're able to pull up individual cases of crimes committed by immigrants. Would you like me to start pulling up cases of locals committing crime as if that's some sort of "gotcha" moment?

If you're talking about the grooming gangs in northern England as 'individual cases', then you really need to look a bit more deeply at what went on.

What grooming gang would that be? Jimmy Saville and his mates like Gary Glitter?

But those cases are very well known. The Asian grooming gangs and the "hands-off" approach taken by authorities seems to be lesser so - at least, judging by your apparent ignorance.

Yeah, it would have been awful if the authorities had taken a "hands off" approach to Saville.

Both cases highlight how the established organs of the media cannot be trusted!

The Garda and government were good at turning a blind eye on the clergy, I suppose they've form

[Eamonnca1]

Congratulations. You're able to pull up individual cases of crimes committed by immigrants. Would you like me to start pulling up cases of locals committing crime as if that's some sort of "gotcha" moment?

If you're talking about the grooming gangs in northern England as 'individual cases', then you really need to look a bit more deeply at what went on.

What grooming gang would that be? Jimmy Saville and his mates like Gary Glitter?

But those cases are very well known. The Asian grooming gangs and the "hands-off" approach taken by authorities seems to be lesser so - at least, judging by your apparent ignorance.

Yeah, it would have been awful if the authorities had taken a "hands off" approach to Saville.

Both cases highlight how the established organs of the media cannot be trusted!

The Garda and government were good at turning a blind eye on the clergy, I suppose they've form

Ah here. That was just a few bad apples. Can't have all priests and brothers tarred with the same brush. Immigrants on the other hand...

~sarc

[burdizzo]

Yes, I see - getting away from the point again. What a surprise.

[Milltown Row2]

Yes, I see - getting away from the point again. What a surprise.

Ah the point of uk grooming sex gangs and racists torturing refugees in Ireland! Gotcha lol

[burdizzo]

Yes, I see - getting away from the point again. What a surprise.

Ah the point of uk grooming sex gangs and racists torturing refugees in Ireland! Gotcha lol

The example of Asian grooming gangs targeting white British girls provides a warning sign against unfettered immigration, more like.

[Milltown Row2]

Yes, I see - getting away from the point again. What a surprise.

Ah the point of uk grooming sex gangs and racists torturing refugees in Ireland! Gotcha lol

The example of Asian grooming gangs targeting white British girls provides a warning sign against unfettered immigration, more like.

He also used the Rochdale grooming gang and they were British.. not immigrants

Grooming clergies should be a warning too I'd assume, not sure what to do with them though..

[burdizzo]

Yes, I see - getting away from the point again. What a surprise.

Ah the point of uk grooming sex gangs and racists torturing refugees in Ireland! Gotcha lol

The example of Asian grooming gangs targeting white British girls provides a warning sign against unfettered immigration, more like.

He also used the Rochdale grooming gang and they were British.. not immigrants

Grooming clergies should be a warning too I'd assume, not sure what to do with them though..

You've completely missed the point, pal.

Either that, or you're being deliberately obtuse.

[Milltown Row2]

Yes, I see - getting away from the point again. What a surprise.

Ah the point of uk grooming sex gangs and racists torturing refugees in Ireland! Gotcha lol

The example of Asian grooming gangs targeting white British girls provides a warning sign against unfettered immigration, more like.

He also used the Rochdale grooming gang and they were British.. not immigrants

Grooming clergies should be a warning too I'd assume, not sure what to do with them though..

You've completely missed the point, pal.

Either that, or you're being deliberately obtuse.

I'm trying to work out the logic of racism and I'm struggling

I'm trying to work out how life is worse for helping others

I'm trying to work out why people don't realise that being part of the EU it's normal for EU countries to do their bit. ( you could move to the uk as they have it sorted lol)


I'm not sure of the differences between Irish grooming and Asian gangs, not sure we have Asian grooming gangs here though

All you need to do is chill, I hope your kids don't read this or hear your rants about immigration or refugees, it's rotten

[burdizzo]

Only, or mainly, in Western Europe are countries having serious problems with immigration. I merely want us to protect ourselves for future generations.

However, thanks for the holier-than-thou lecture.

Look, it's pretty obvious neither of us is going to persuade the other, and while I know arguing with strangers on the internet is basically pointless, sometimes it can be stimulating. This, though, isn't -  so I'm off to scrub the dishes!

[Eamonnca1]

Yes, I see - getting away from the point again. What a surprise.

The point is you can either tar an entire group of people with the same brush or you can't. In the case of priests it was a case of an institutional failure, but "immigrants" are not an organisation. They're a type of person with one thing in common - the fact that they came from somewhere else. The fact that some of them are abusers does not mean that they all are, despite your implication that they are. Sexual abuse is a law enforcement problem and a social problem, not an immigration problem. Unless you think Jimmy Saville and the Christian Brothers were all immigrants.

[Eamonnca1]

Only, or mainly, in Western Europe are countries having serious problems with immigration. I merely want us to protect ourselves for future generations.

However, thanks for the holier-than-thou lecture.

Look, it's pretty obvious neither of us is going to persuade the other, and while I know arguing with strangers on the internet is basically pointless, sometimes it can be stimulating. This, though, isn't -  so I'm off to scrub the dishes!

Like what? Upsetting racist patients who want to be treated by one of their own?