Galway v Monaghan, Super 8s Phase 3. 4/8/18. Pearse Stadium.

Started by Mayo4Sam14, July 25, 2018, 05:09:23 PM

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befair

Old betting maxim; the team that needs the win usually gets the win. Galway seriously lacking in motivation, but didn't look like a team that could challenge Dublin.

Main Street

Perhaps Galway were doing an Owen Mulligan and were only using this game in preparation for the next bigger game ;)
It remains to be seen just how much this performance by Galway throws them off the rails, or they recover quickly and become ship shape V Dublin.

An Fhairche Abu

The number of Monaghan supporters in Salthill this evening was unbelievable, hats off to them on making the semi final after so long, very well deserved.
Galway support was the usual, not good enough really, people will have a cut at the team this evening, and rightly so, but that was an embarrassment for Galway fans, it was like a home match for Monaghan.

Not much to pick apart from the match given that one team was so comprehensively the superior, Galway were second best from minute one right through to the end, no intensity or craft at all, terrible shot execution and selection, once Monaghan got a reasonable lead at the start of the second half there was nothing in response.
Monaghan best in every line of the pitch, they won't fear either Tyrone or Donegal in the semi final.

Galway could take a trimming from the Dubs next Saturday but being realistic if you'd offered Galway retention of Division One status, a Connacht title and an All Ireland semi final appearance back in January, it would have been taken.

seafoid

Quote from: seafoid on July 26, 2018, 01:30:13 PM
Could be like Germany and Austria in the 82 world cup. They didn't want Algeria to qualify from the group. Starring Kerry as Algeria.
They will also be going in well under the radar v the Dubs
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

An Fhairche Abu

In well under the radar?
If you play the team Galway named this evening you need to get some form of a performance, Monaghan wiped us off the pitch without much fuss at all. If they actually didn't care about the semi final opponent then put out the squad players, it looks like Galway have picked up a few more injuries to compound the meltdown in performance.
The more I reflect on it the more tonight is a big blow to what had been a fairly productive year overall, we're back to a situation where you can't trust Galway to show up day in day out. A double score hammering at home? That's a disaster really.

SouthDublinBro

Winning in Croke Park will prove to be a bridge too far for Monaghan, as usual.

Baile an tuaigh

There was men and women running onto the field at the final whistle who probably had a huge influence with these players back in their local clubs. The unspoken heros when these men were little boys they spent so much time coaching. As for the youngsters who were running onto the pitch who might never forget this moment. This is what  plants the seeds for the next generation. Great to see so much joy.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 04, 2018, 09:30:20 PM
Winning in Croke Park will prove to be a bridge too far for Monaghan, as usual.
They beat Kildare in Croke Park in round one of the Super 8s and Dublin in round 7 of the NFL.

Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on August 04, 2018, 09:31:11 PM
There was men and women running onto the field at the final whistle who probably had a huge influence with these players back in their local clubs. The unspoken heros when these men were little boys they spent so much time coaching. As for the youngsters who were running onto the pitch who might never forget this moment. This is what  plants the seeds for the next generation. Great to see so much joy.

Pitch celebrations are great to see and its about time that Croke park brought them back also.

Schkite

Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 04, 2018, 09:30:20 PM
Winning in Croke Park will prove to be a bridge too far for Monaghan, as usual.

You are one boring hoor

straightred

Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 04, 2018, 09:30:20 PM
Winning in Croke Park will prove to be a bridge too far for Monaghan, as usual.

in for another snide remark before you scuttle off again I see. They won in croke park twice this year (out of 2 attempts) in case you missed it

GalwayBayBoy

Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 04, 2018, 09:29:17 PM
In well under the radar?
If you play the team Galway named this evening you need to get some form of a performance, Monaghan wiped us off the pitch without much fuss at all. If they actually didn't care about the semi final opponent then put out the squad players, it looks like Galway have picked up a few more injuries to compound the meltdown in performance.
The more I reflect on it the more tonight is a big blow to what had been a fairly productive year overall, we're back to a situation where you can't trust Galway to show up day in day out. A double score hammering at home? That's a disaster really.

The biggest worry is how they can switch in 7 days from a mindset where they are half arsed and barely trying a leg to one where they have to be ravenously hungry to compete with a Dublin. You'd prefer to see some sort of consistency of performance. They had it all year but never turned up today.

Schkite

Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 04, 2018, 08:37:40 PM
Congrats to Monaghan they are an example to a lot of the smaller counties to what can be done if they have the right manager/management in place to get the very best out of their players. They were a Div 3 team when O'Rourke arrived and didn't know if they were coming or going some improvement in the last 5 years!

A huge amount of work has been done with underage coaching/development squads within the county over the last 10+ years. Most of the current panel aged mid-20s and under would have come up in that system.

Before 2013 we didn't win an Ulster minor since the 40s, and we've won 2 Ulster minors and an Ulster u21 since, so the work has certainly paid off.

straightred

Quote from: Schkite on August 04, 2018, 09:43:55 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 04, 2018, 08:37:40 PM
Congrats to Monaghan they are an example to a lot of the smaller counties to what can be done if they have the right manager/management in place to get the very best out of their players. They were a Div 3 team when O'Rourke arrived and didn't know if they were coming or going some improvement in the last 5 years!

A huge amount of work has been done with underage coaching/development squads within the county over the last 10+ years. Most of the current panel aged mid-20s and under would have come up in that system.

Before 2013 we didn't win an Ulster minor since the 40s, and we've won 2 Ulster minors and an Ulster u21 since, so the work has certainly paid off.
and a respectful and cooperative relationship between the clubs and the county setup. That counts for a lot.

seafoid

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2018, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 04, 2018, 09:29:17 PM
In well under the radar?
If you play the team Galway named this evening you need to get some form of a performance, Monaghan wiped us off the pitch without much fuss at all. If they actually didn't care about the semi final opponent then put out the squad players, it looks like Galway have picked up a few more injuries to compound the meltdown in performance.
The more I reflect on it the more tonight is a big blow to what had been a fairly productive year overall, we're back to a situation where you can't trust Galway to show up day in day out. A double score hammering at home? That's a disaster really.
The biggest worry is how they can switch in 7 days from a mindset where they are half arsed and barely trying a leg to one where they have to be ravenously hungry to compete with a Dublin.
You'd prefer to see some sort of consistency of performance. They had it all year but never turned up today.
"The biggest worry is how they can switch in 7 days from a mindset where they are half arsed and barely trying a leg to one where they have to be ravenously hungry to compete "

If the hurlers can do it...
They didn't want to win this and they didn't need to. Galway have lost more than enough finals to the Dubs. Better to meet them at the semi stage and see how well they match up.
The Super 8s are not the same as straight knockout. Different calculations. Getting Kerry out of the way is seriously positive should they beat Dublin. It's like cards. I don't think they fear any of the Ulster teams.
The destination of Sam for the next 2 or 3 years may be in play.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

straightred

Quote from: seafoid on August 04, 2018, 09:59:10 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 04, 2018, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 04, 2018, 09:29:17 PM
In well under the radar?
If you play the team Galway named this evening you need to get some form of a performance, Monaghan wiped us off the pitch without much fuss at all. If they actually didn't care about the semi final opponent then put out the squad players, it looks like Galway have picked up a few more injuries to compound the meltdown in performance.
The more I reflect on it the more tonight is a big blow to what had been a fairly productive year overall, we're back to a situation where you can't trust Galway to show up day in day out. A double score hammering at home? That's a disaster really.
The biggest worry is how they can switch in 7 days from a mindset where they are half arsed and barely trying a leg to one where they have to be ravenously hungry to compete with a Dublin.
You'd prefer to see some sort of consistency of performance. They had it all year but never turned up today.
"The biggest worry is how they can switch in 7 days from a mindset where they are half arsed and barely trying a leg to one where they have to be ravenously hungry to compete "

If the hurlers can do it...
They didn't want to win this and they didn't need to. Galway have lost more than enough finals to the Dubs. Better to meet them at the semi stage and see how well they match up.
The Super 8s are not the same as straight knockout. Different calculations. Getting Kerry out of the way is seriously positive should they beat Dublin. It's like cards. I don't think they fear any of the Ulster teams.
The destination of Sam for the next 2 or 3 years may be in play.
is that wishful thinking, rewriting history or the truth ? We could argue about it all night but I don't believe a word of it. They started that match tonight trying to win it. They would have taken Walsh off half way through the first half when he was injured if your theory was correct. They were still in it at half time and in fact they finished the first half stronger. However Monaghan were much sharper and hungrier in the 2nd half and thats what won the game. Maybe Galway weren't as hungry but i'm not buying the line "they didn't want to win this and they didn't need to"