James McClean

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: Kidder81 on November 07, 2015, 05:04:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 05:00:34 PM
Would happen in every stadium ... On a side note great goal

Has it been happening in every stadium ?

Yes
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

BennyCake

I think it's despicable that players are forced to wear a Poppy on their shirts. It has absolutely nothing to do with sport.

It's not just McClean that finds it offensive. There are many nationalities who might think otherwise: Argentinian, Chinese, German, Spanish, Italian, Japanese... Let's face it, any country that Britain has been to war with/invaded/occupied, which is most of the world.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:21:38 PM
I think it's despicable that players are forced to wear a Poppy on their shirts. It has absolutely nothing to do with sport.

It's not just McClean that finds it offensive. There are many nationalities who might think otherwise: Argentinian, Chinese, German, Spanish, Italian, Japanese... Let's face it, any country that Britain has been to war with/invaded/occupied, which is most of the world.

And you know that?? McLean is not forced or has he worn one... The nationalities you speak of have same opportunities.... Stop talking rubbish
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

BennyCake

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 05:24:17 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:21:38 PM
I think it's despicable that players are forced to wear a Poppy on their shirts. It has absolutely nothing to do with sport.

It's not just McClean that finds it offensive. There are many nationalities who might think otherwise: Argentinian, Chinese, German, Spanish, Italian, Japanese... Let's face it, any country that Britain has been to war with/invaded/occupied, which is most of the world.

And you know that?? McLean is not forced or has he worn one... The nationalities you speak of have same opportunities.... Stop talking rubbish

Did the FA or Premier League defend McClean for not wearing one? No.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:30:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 05:24:17 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:21:38 PM
I think it's despicable that players are forced to wear a Poppy on their shirts. It has absolutely nothing to do with sport.

It's not just McClean that finds it offensive. There are many nationalities who might think otherwise: Argentinian, Chinese, German, Spanish, Italian, Japanese... Let's face it, any country that Britain has been to war with/invaded/occupied, which is most of the world.

And you know that?? McLean is not forced or has he worn one... The nationalities you speak of have same opportunities.... Stop talking rubbish

Did the FA or Premier League defend McClean for not wearing one? No.

Which post are you going with?? He's playing football in the EPL and hasn't lost his job because of it so what are you on about?? The FA are encouraging it because to them it means a lot... Stop looking for trouble and you wont find any...


None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

BennyCake

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 05:40:17 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:30:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 05:24:17 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:21:38 PM
I think it's despicable that players are forced to wear a Poppy on their shirts. It has absolutely nothing to do with sport.

It's not just McClean that finds it offensive. There are many nationalities who might think otherwise: Argentinian, Chinese, German, Spanish, Italian, Japanese... Let's face it, any country that Britain has been to war with/invaded/occupied, which is most of the world.

And you know that?? McLean is not forced or has he worn one... The nationalities you speak of have same opportunities.... Stop talking rubbish

Did the FA or Premier League defend McClean for not wearing one? No.

Which post are you going with?? He's playing football in the EPL and hasn't lost his job because of it so what are you on about?? The FA are encouraging it because to them it means a lot... Stop looking for trouble and you wont find any...

It might mean a lot to the FA, but it doesn't for everyone. That's why it shouldn't be put on the shirts.

He's still playing in the PL but the FA should have made a statement that any player has the choice or not to wear a Poppy without being ridiculed or abused. They have ostracised McClean because of beliefs and that is totally unacceptable.

Boycey

Saw  the 1st half today, there was a faint murmur from Utd fans when McClean got the ball possibly caused by a very poor tackle by him on Blind in the 1st minute... Heard nothing from WBA supporters and would doubt very much he would be booed by them to be honest..

Milltown Row2

Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:51:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 05:40:17 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:30:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 05:24:17 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:21:38 PM
I think it's despicable that players are forced to wear a Poppy on their shirts. It has absolutely nothing to do with sport.

It's not just McClean that finds it offensive. There are many nationalities who might think otherwise: Argentinian, Chinese, German, Spanish, Italian, Japanese... Let's face it, any country that Britain has been to war with/invaded/occupied, which is most of the world.

And you know that?? McLean is not forced or has he worn one... The nationalities you speak of have same opportunities.... Stop talking rubbish

Did the FA or Premier League defend McClean for not wearing one? No.

Which post are you going with?? He's playing football in the EPL and hasn't lost his job because of it so what are you on about?? The FA are encouraging it because to them it means a lot... Stop looking for trouble and you wont find any...

It might mean a lot to the FA, but it doesn't for everyone. That's why it shouldn't be put on the shirts.

He's still playing in the PL but the FA should have made a statement that any player has the choice or not to wear a Poppy without being ridiculed or abused. They have ostracised McClean because of beliefs and that is totally unacceptable.

Right at what point do you not understand?? He's not wearing one nor made to (or anyone else for that matter)... The abuse he's getting will come regardless on whether the FA, prince Charles or the Queen said its fine not to wear one....
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

annapr

Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:51:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 05:40:17 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:30:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 05:24:17 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:21:38 PM
I think it's despicable that players are forced to wear a Poppy on their shirts. It has absolutely nothing to do with sport.

It's not just McClean that finds it offensive. There are many nationalities who might think otherwise: Argentinian, Chinese, German, Spanish, Italian, Japanese... Let's face it, any country that Britain has been to war with/invaded/occupied, which is most of the world.

And you know that?? McLean is not forced or has he worn one... The nationalities you speak of have same opportunities.... Stop talking rubbish

Did the FA or Premier League defend McClean for not wearing one? No.

Which post are you going with?? He's playing football in the EPL and hasn't lost his job because of it so what are you on about?? The FA are encouraging it because to them it means a lot... Stop looking for trouble and you wont find any...

It might mean a lot to the FA, but it doesn't for everyone. That's why it shouldn't be put on the shirts.

He's still playing in the PL but the FA should have made a statement that any player has the choice or not to wear a Poppy without being ridiculed or abused. They have ostracised McClean because of beliefs and that is totally unacceptable.
That man in your avatar was wearing a poppy the other night on TV.

BennyCake

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 06:08:49 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:51:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 05:40:17 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:30:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 05:24:17 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:21:38 PM
I think it's despicable that players are forced to wear a Poppy on their shirts. It has absolutely nothing to do with sport.

It's not just McClean that finds it offensive. There are many nationalities who might think otherwise: Argentinian, Chinese, German, Spanish, Italian, Japanese... Let's face it, any country that Britain has been to war with/invaded/occupied, which is most of the world.

And you know that?? McLean is not forced or has he worn one... The nationalities you speak of have same opportunities.... Stop talking rubbish

Did the FA or Premier League defend McClean for not wearing one? No.

Which post are you going with?? He's playing football in the EPL and hasn't lost his job because of it so what are you on about?? The FA are encouraging it because to them it means a lot... Stop looking for trouble and you wont find any...

It might mean a lot to the FA, but it doesn't for everyone. That's why it shouldn't be put on the shirts.

He's still playing in the PL but the FA should have made a statement that any player has the choice or not to wear a Poppy without being ridiculed or abused. They have ostracised McClean because of beliefs and that is totally unacceptable.

Right at what point do you not understand?? He's not wearing one nor made to (or anyone else for that matter)... The abuse he's getting will come regardless on whether the FA, prince Charles or the Queen said its fine not to wear one....

Didn't you read my last post?? It shouldn't be connected with sport. That's the point. It puts players who might have issues with it, in an awkward situation, where they are damned if they do or damned if they dont.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 06:35:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 06:08:49 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:51:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 05:40:17 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:30:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 05:24:17 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:21:38 PM
I think it's despicable that players are forced to wear a Poppy on their shirts. It has absolutely nothing to do with sport.

It's not just McClean that finds it offensive. There are many nationalities who might think otherwise: Argentinian, Chinese, German, Spanish, Italian, Japanese... Let's face it, any country that Britain has been to war with/invaded/occupied, which is most of the world.

And you know that?? McLean is not forced or has he worn one... The nationalities you speak of have same opportunities.... Stop talking rubbish

Did the FA or Premier League defend McClean for not wearing one? No.

Which post are you going with?? He's playing football in the EPL and hasn't lost his job because of it so what are you on about?? The FA are encouraging it because to them it means a lot... Stop looking for trouble and you wont find any...

It might mean a lot to the FA, but it doesn't for everyone. That's why it shouldn't be put on the shirts.

He's still playing in the PL but the FA should have made a statement that any player has the choice or not to wear a Poppy without being ridiculed or abused. They have ostracised McClean because of beliefs and that is totally unacceptable.

Right at what point do you not understand?? He's not wearing one nor made to (or anyone else for that matter)... The abuse he's getting will come regardless on whether the FA, prince Charles or the Queen said its fine not to wear one....

Didn't you read my last post?? It shouldn't be connected with sport. That's the point. It puts players who might have issues with it, in an awkward situation, where they are damned if they do or damned if they dont.

I cant keep up, you keep moving the goal posts..... Its not connected to sport.. The players have a choice, its up to them whether they feel awkward in not wearing one... Jesus !! We cant complain about other peoples politics' if we want others to try and accept ours.. You'd have nothing to complain about ffs!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

DuffleKing


MR2 - concisely, what's your issue with McClean not wearing a poppy?

BennyCake

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 07:01:57 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 06:35:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 06:08:49 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:51:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 05:40:17 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:30:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 05:24:17 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 07, 2015, 05:21:38 PM
I think it's despicable that players are forced to wear a Poppy on their shirts. It has absolutely nothing to do with sport.

It's not just McClean that finds it offensive. There are many nationalities who might think otherwise: Argentinian, Chinese, German, Spanish, Italian, Japanese... Let's face it, any country that Britain has been to war with/invaded/occupied, which is most of the world.

And you know that?? McLean is not forced or has he worn one... The nationalities you speak of have same opportunities.... Stop talking rubbish

Did the FA or Premier League defend McClean for not wearing one? No.

Which post are you going with?? He's playing football in the EPL and hasn't lost his job because of it so what are you on about?? The FA are encouraging it because to them it means a lot... Stop looking for trouble and you wont find any...

It might mean a lot to the FA, but it doesn't for everyone. That's why it shouldn't be put on the shirts.

He's still playing in the PL but the FA should have made a statement that any player has the choice or not to wear a Poppy without being ridiculed or abused. They have ostracised McClean because of beliefs and that is totally unacceptable.

Right at what point do you not understand?? He's not wearing one nor made to (or anyone else for that matter)... The abuse he's getting will come regardless on whether the FA, prince Charles or the Queen said its fine not to wear one....

Didn't you read my last post?? It shouldn't be connected with sport. That's the point. It puts players who might have issues with it, in an awkward situation, where they are damned if they do or damned if they dont.

I cant keep up, you keep moving the goal posts..... Its not connected to sport.. The players have a choice, its up to them whether they feel awkward in not wearing one... Jesus !! We cant complain about other peoples politics' if we want others to try and accept ours.. You'd have nothing to complain about ffs!

I think you should give the iPad to a grown up, and have a wee lie down.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: DuffleKing on November 07, 2015, 07:09:35 PM

MR2 - concisely, what's your issue with McClean not wearing a poppy?

Nothing fair fucks to him, is that concisely enough?? But this crap that people are being made to wear one is utter bullshit... Its 2015 not the 1800's ... As for Mcclean in general he courts controversy but I cant knock him for standing up for his belief's..

We all in life do things that we don't want to do he's chosen to do his in the public eye..... Be alright though all he needs to do is buy another wheelchair or give someone a nice Xmas gift...
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

DuffleKing


Genuinely confused as to the source of your animosity towards the lad.

As an aside, although in theory noone is forced to wear the poppy, the emotional blackmail and public outcry when someone declines means it takes considerable backbone to exercise your free will.