Just looking at page 59 of the county derry post. Fcuk me, wats it all about ???
the smokin alone ll cost the lynchs 5 grand.
Quote from: ha ha derry on September 08, 2009, 01:17:28 PM
Just looking at page 59 of the county derry post. Fcuk me, wats it all about ???
u tell us,you started the thread at least tell us what it's about
no parking for players and management at celtic park unless you travel by coach. no smoking. have to announce teams at least 15 min before throw in. warm ups monitored by official. fines fines fines.
from Derry Website
Championship Regulations and Match Day Regulations and Rules
Match day regulations and details for Championship Derry Championship Regulations 2009
These regulations have been drawn up for all championship games under the control of Derry CCC and are in line with the championship regulations as drawn up by Coiste Riarachain Na gCluichi and as approved by Ard Chomhairle.
Derry CCC will appoint a Field Steward who shall act as a Monitor/Advisor and shall report all breaches of regulations to Derry CCC.
Clubs are advised that Derry CCC is determined that the presentation and control of all games will be of the highest standard.
Clubs are responsible for ensuring that their players and management are fully aware of the regulations and that these regulations are strictly adhered to at all times.
Number of Players
Only 24 players will be permitted into the Pitch Enclosure
Players must retain their passes to gain entry to the pitch enclosure.
NO PASS NO ENTRY.
Number of Club Officials
Club Officials must also retain their passes to be permitted into the pitch enclosure
Only 4 club officials will be permitted into the Pitch Enclosure:
This must include:
"A" Bainisteoir and Maor Foirne
"B" Team Medical Officer
"C" Other designated mentor
Substitutes (9) shall occupy designated areas in Celtic Park as instructed by Derry CCC. Club Secretary or Ass Secretary Chairman or Vice Chairman may sit along with their substitutes in the designated area.
Penalty-
(a) Fine 100euro per breach of Regulation
(b) Chairman, Secretary and 'Person(s) in Charge of Team' charged under
(Rule 7.2 (e) T.O. 2009)
Misconduct considered to have Discredited the Association
MATCH DAY REGULATIONS
These regulations have been drawn up for all championship games under the control of Derry CCC and are in line with the championship regulations as drawn up by Coiste Riarachain Na gCluichi and as approved by Ard Chomhairle
Team Mentors
BAINISTEOIR
One authorised team official MUST wear a distinctive top, which shall have the word "BAINISTEOIR" in clear large letters. This person shall remain within the dugouts or designated areas.
MAOR FOIRNE
One authorised team official MUST wear a distinctive top, which shall have the word "MAOR FOIRNE" in clear large letters.
This person may move alongside the sideline, the opposite line and the end lines to make changes and/or to give instructions to players, as instructed by the "BAINISTEOIR".
This person MUST return to the dugout / designated area after carrying out the instructions of the "BAINISTEOIR"
MAOR FOIRNE MAY NOT ACT AS A WATER CARRIER
Medical Officer
The Team Medical Officer (Physio/ Doctor) or authorised official MUST wear a distinctive top. The Medical person may only enter the field of play when instructed to do so by the referee or linesman.
Penalty 100 Euro fine per breach of regulation
Substitutes
Substitutes will sit in the allocated seating area in Celtic Park.
A maximum of three substitutes, without a ball, shall be allowed to warm up on the sideline at any one time. They shall be confined to their own half of the field.
A substitution may only be made during a break in play, (A break in play is when the ball has gone out of play following a score or a wide or a stoppage in play called by the referee for medical attention to an injured player.)After the substitute has given a substitution slip to the referee or the side line official. The linesman shall authorise and control the entry of a substitute on to the field of play.
Penalty-Fine-100 Euro per breach of Regulation
Team List
SEMI-FINALS
Club Secretaries are asked to summit the team list Number 1 = 24 only to the County P.R.O. Sean Gunning no later than 8pm on Wed 9th September 2009 for inclusion in the match day program. All players must wear jerseys as numbered in the program. Any changes to team must be notified to P.R.O. at least 15 minutes before throw in.
Penalty-Fine-500 euro for breach of regulation.
Punctuality
Teams must be on the field 10 minutes before the appointed starting time, no matter what time they commence their warm up.
The half time interval shall not exceed 10 minutes
C.C.C. will provide each team with a Field Monitor who will be made known to the team's manger / managers before their match, the monitor assigned to your team will:
1. Advise your manager/ managers of which dug out you will be using on the day.
2. Advise your manager/ managers of which goal they are shooting into in the warm up period.
3. Advise your manager/ managers that only 2 minutes of the warm up time period is left.
4. Advise your manager / managers 2 minutes before the stated times below that there is 2 minutes left before your team needs to take the pitch for the game.
5. Advise your manager / managers that only 2 minutes of the half time break remains and that your team needs to be ready to take the pitch again.
Penalty: 40 euro fine for every minute late.
All Players including subs must vacate the pitch at half time
Penalty 500 euro fine.
Warm up times for the following clubs are:
Saturday 12th September:
Greenlough & Slaughtmanus 3pm to 3.15pm both teams must be back on the pitch for 3.20 pm
Foreglen & Ballymaguigan 5 pm to 5.15 pm both teams must be back on the pitch for 5.20 pm
Sunday 13th September
Loup & Bellaghy 2.30 to 2.45 both teams must be back on the pitch for 2.50 pm
Dungiven & Glenullin 4.30 pm to 4.45 pm both teams must be back on the pitch for 4.50 pm.
Fine 100 Euro for breach of regulation.
Water Carriers NO CLUB PERSONALE ARE PERMITTED TO DO WATER CARRIER
C.C.C will make sure that 4 water carriers will be provided for each game. Clubs must provide their water bottles to the water carriers after their warm up sessions.
NO PLAYERS / MANAGEMENT WILL BE PERMITTED TO PARK THEIR CARS IN CELTIC PARK.
PASSES WILL BE ISSUED TO THE CLUBS FOR PLAYERS TO PARK IN THE COLLEGE GROUND CAR PARK.
TEAMS TRAVELING BY BUS WILL BE PERMITTED TO PARK THE BUS IN CELTIC PARK.
NO SMOKING ALLOWED WITHIN THE PITCH CONFINES.
thanks for clarifing that robertemmet. now i have to find a club barrister for the county final LOL.
NO SMOKING ALLOWED WITHIN THE PITCH CONFINES.
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Feck if we were there we would be paying fines for the next 10 years!!!!
Also I see that smoking is banned. I wonder if that also relates to county board officials, cause on the day of us v Glenulliin a certain county official was walking on the pitch smoking and then SHE walked over to the side and threw the cig down just in front of the stand.
and mccloy's drive towards professionalism and discipline gets him further notice from his croke park masters - ulterior motives here anyone?
Quote from: HIGH BALL CENTRE FIELD on September 08, 2009, 01:51:31 PM
NO SMOKING ALLOWED WITHIN THE PITCH CONFINES.
Feck if we were there we would be paying fines for the next 10 years!!!!
Also I see that smoking is banned. I wonder if that also relates to county board officials, cause on the day of us v Glenulliin a certain county official was walking on the pitch smoking and then SHE walked over to the side and threw the cig down just in front of the stand.
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if i remember rightly a glenullin sub was smoking at half time during the final v bellaghy in '07 :D :D
lynchs management team 4no. x 20 cigs each @ £100 = 8 grand. :'(
fcuk lads i thought armagh co board were clowns they all must be when they get a place on these co boards and most wouldnt know if she blown up r stuffed.
It is official the powers that be have gone crazier than they already where.
sorry sir, no jeans or trainers ! proper dress only :D
sorry madam, your 2 children can,t wear those club tops. may cause offence to other patrons.
Can we thank slaughneil for this
Quote from: Rawhide on September 08, 2009, 02:06:44 PM
Can we thank slaughneil for this
No just McClown and his acrobats!!
u got that right high ball.
I heard that not only was there a ban on teams having a "Maor Uisce" but water bottles are all banned. ;)
and rightly so robert. manager hit me with one at half time one day... very sore. :'(
I can't honestly believe I'm reading this.... Clubs will need legal representation on the day and an event management team to ensure all those bloody mindless rules are followed and thousands of pounds of fines are avoided....
No doubt it will only be a matter of time before other county boards employ these rules
Flipping hell there should just go all out and put everything up there. use of bad language during a team talk, £ 20 per word
Spitting £ 20, raising your voice to an unacceptable level that just be another 20.... boot laces untied - tenner.. one sock pulled up and one down, another tenner... scratching yourself during a parade or in any place deemed to be unsuitable at any stage during the day 20 at least....
crazy... at least it's comforting to know what that it's not just Cavan where the top dogs haven't a clue whats going on
its not about the money.. honest...seriously..... no i mean it ;D
The tyrone county board use the majority of these rules for games also, 24 players , bibs, restricited warm ups at county finals etc, and fines as well.
should it not be the clubs day to enjoy afterall they train for these day through muck and clabber. why not let them enjoy the occasion of championship day. most clubs have a panel of 30ish why stop some guys from togging out on the big day ?
Quote from: ha ha derry on September 08, 2009, 02:46:50 PM
should it not be the clubs day to enjoy afterall they train for these day through muck and clabber. why not let them enjoy the occasion of championship day. most clubs have a panel of 30ish why stop some guys from togging out on the big day ?
it should be, but as shown in last years final - its McClown and his acrobats day ;D
They just can't make anything easy. Wonder how many fines Bellaghy will get and how many the Loup will get if they beat Bellaghy :D
Quote from: ha ha derry on September 08, 2009, 02:46:50 PM
should it not be the clubs day to enjoy afterall they train for these day through muck and clabber. why not let them enjoy the occasion of championship day. most clubs have a panel of 30ish why stop some guys from togging out on the big day ?
A special day!! We have Sonny Joe, Rawhide and Knockyourmuckerin all surfacing on the same day but still no sign of Max!!!
Cromagh will be next on!
cassidy most be lukin take co team 2 bahamas for a month = ;D
Lads can you not see the sense of these rules after the debacle of last year?
This is trying to set out the rules clearly in advance so that everyone knows the craic, if you know the rules and break them then a fine is deserved for stupidity rather than anything else.
These are standards rules applied throughout most counties in Ireland for big games.
your in a majority of one on this nag1... like the county board :D
TIME FOR PLAN B.
Not the first time, but it does happen elsewhere lads.
If they spent a bit more time putting a decent programme of underage games together, which is the laughing stock of the country and less on this shite, it might be better.
Have these been the same rules throughout the championship and if not why not?
what purpose do these regulations serve nag1 ?
Quote from: ha ha derry on September 08, 2009, 03:06:06 PM
TIME FOR PLAN B.
What will that be? Fine and suspend everyone (apart from Bellaghy of course) :D
Quote from: HIGH BALL CENTRE FIELD on September 08, 2009, 03:11:12 PM
Quote from: ha ha derry on September 08, 2009, 03:06:06 PM
TIME FOR PLAN B.
What will that be? Fine and suspend everyone (apart from Bellaghy of course) :D
Bellaghy have suffered at the hands of McCloy as well. Remember he suspended Brian Scullion after the drawn final in 2007 and he couldn't play in the replay!
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on September 08, 2009, 03:15:39 PM
Quote from: HIGH BALL CENTRE FIELD on September 08, 2009, 03:11:12 PM
Quote from: ha ha derry on September 08, 2009, 03:06:06 PM
TIME FOR PLAN B.
What will that be? Fine and suspend everyone (apart from Bellaghy of course) :D
Bellaghy have suffered at the hands of McCloy as well. Remember he suspended Brian Scullion after the drawn final in 2007 and he couldn't play in the replay!
But was that not really a Bellaghy thing for dropping the ball when Glenullin scored the goal. He couldn't pressurise Cassidy to drop him so he just suspended him ;D
I don't see any problems with the regulations that the CB have put in place apart from only allowing a panel of 24.
what about a protest on sunday ? a minute slow hand clap to show your displeasure at the county board.
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on September 08, 2009, 01:59:58 PM
fcuk lads i thought armagh co board were clowns they all must be when they get a place on these co boards and most wouldnt know if she blown up r stuffed.
Nope - that honour is bestowed on Derry CB. What an outfit they are.
other than the money, what purpose do they serve estimator ?
Quote from: ha ha derry on September 08, 2009, 03:31:00 PM
other than the money, what purpose do they serve estimator ?
To me most of the rules follow common sense and decency. The money is only a problem if you are associated with a club with none of the above.
Quote from: ha ha derry on September 08, 2009, 03:31:00 PM
other than the money, what purpose do they serve estimator ?
Are you talking about the rules or the CB? :D
see, it only affects teams involved in the latter stages of championships. ahem.
should common sense and decency not prevail in the league too ? estimator?
Quote from: ha ha derry on September 08, 2009, 03:10:53 PM
what purpose do these regulations serve nag1 ?
Ha ha
They serve to let everyone know the regualtions around the game.
For instance it the number of people along the line is crucial to controlling that area and making sure there is no trouble.
That is what I would think along the lines of anyway.
Plus as I stated before if they print the rules and the club breaks them then they have only themselves to blame at the end of the day.
On the smoking thing I hate to see mentors along the line puffing away, some example to be setting for the young kids.
what about swearing spectators, drunk spectators etc.
the seated area at celtic park for subs and officials seats about 30. they are not on the sideline during the game, so what harm does it do to tog out 30 players nag1.
That should be a matter for the stewards at the game then, if they are being abusive and are out of order they should be asked to leave as per any normal part of soceity.
Setting out rules and regulations is all well and good, but the real question is what the county board can do to ensure the consistent enforcement of them.
Recent history has shown that a dogged appeals process can overturn nearly anything substantial.
The fact is most clubs will also vigorously dispute any major ruling these days as those in administration have continually displayed an inability to implement their authority on a solid basis - the ballinderry/slaughtneil sagas of the past 2 years being a case in point.
Draconian measures that can't be reinforced ultimately serve no purpose other than stirring up bad blood and undermining authority.
Quote from: whiskeysteve on September 08, 2009, 04:27:15 PM
Setting out rules and regulations is all well and good, but the real question is what the county board can do to ensure the consistent enforcement of them.
Recent history has shown that a dogged appeals process can overturn nearly anything substantial.
The fact is most clubs will also vigorously dispute any major ruling these days as those in administration have continually displayed an inability to implement their authority on a solid basis - the ballinderry/slaughtneil sagas of the past 2 years being a case in point.
Draconian measures that can't be reinforced ultimately serve no purpose other than stirring up bad blood and undermining authority.
Could you list me all the Ballinderry Sagas over the past two years Whiskeysteve? Or have you been caught up by the propaganda as well?
well shambo, being from portstewart means im that out of touch with the goings on in ballinderry etc, i may as well be following propaganda ;D
but did the county board not throw ballinderry out of the championship only for them to be reinstated after a lengthy, championship postponing appeal this year?
after all the hullabaloo on here round that time i would have thought i could have been forgiven for describing it as a 'saga' ;D
Quote from: whiskeysteve on September 08, 2009, 04:44:37 PM
well shambo, being from portstewart means im that out of touch with the goings on in ballinderry etc, i may as well be following propaganda ;D
but did the county board not throw ballinderry out of the championship only for them to be reinstated after a lengthy, championship postponing appeal this year?
after all the hullabaloo on here round that time i would have thought i could have been forgiven for describing it as a 'saga' ;D
That's true WhiskeySteve! ONE incident involving ONE player which if all other incidents involving all other clubs had been handled in the same manner there would have been no football played in Derry this year. As a member of the CCC was heard to say... when you have solicitors from Steelstown and Coleraine putting Ballinderry out of football, no wonder the county is in the state it is in !!!!
Quote from: seamusthebard on September 08, 2009, 05:24:33 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on September 08, 2009, 04:44:37 PM
well shambo, being from portstewart means im that out of touch with the goings on in ballinderry etc, i may as well be following propaganda ;D
but did the county board not throw ballinderry out of the championship only for them to be reinstated after a lengthy, championship postponing appeal this year?
after all the hullabaloo on here round that time i would have thought i could have been forgiven for describing it as a 'saga' ;D
That's true WhiskeySteve! ONE incident involving ONE player which if all other incidents involving all other clubs had been handled in the same manner there would have been no football played in Derry this year. As a member of the CCC was heard to say... when you have solicitors from Steelstown and Coleraine putting Ballinderry out of football, no wonder the county is in the state it is in !!!!
hmmm ;D
which coleraine solicitor was it that put ballinderry out of football? Lionel Hutz perhaps?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3f/Lionel_Hutz.jpg/250px-Lionel_Hutz.jpg)
Or was it Lionel Hutz that advised yis to keep quiet over the identity of the assailant? After the shoddiest attempt at a cover up since Nixon bit the bullet, it sounds like yous coulda done with a few of our legal eagles... ;)