The Many Faces of US Politics...

[J70]

I assume people know that capitalism can exist in different forms. 

This is extreme crony capitalism. Wars and natural resources attainment needed to stop the fractional reserve banking ponzi bubble from popping. Governments have allowed the elites to run the game for several decades and the debt bubble is completely out of control.

Yeah, I think we're all aware that capitalism can exist in different forms.

The question is whether the current state of things is down to a cabal of shadowy elites pulling strings, or simply the outcome of a complex system of globalization, consumption and self-interest (national and individual) all around with individual people and corporations getting rich and powerful off of it, like they always have.

[Eamonnca1]

Wars, stock market crashes, recessions, lockdowns all pump and dump money making opportunities for elites and the political class is following the real power centers in every western country.

Peace and stability doesn't bring in the same returns for the big financiers in the west.
Everyone surely sees the every increasing debt bondage populations are subjected to (especially the younger generation.... student loans, car insurance, rent, nursery costs etc) whilst the very top 1% are creaming it.
Its all by design to keep the low and shrinking middle class enslaved... politicians are just public facing useful idiots IMO. 

Sadly, there's a lot of truth in that.

Student debt is the start of the slippy slope where control is gained and maintained of the masses.

Agree 100% with all the above.

I do though have a sense that the ultra-commoditisation of housing and now utilities, will break western political structures sooner rather than later. The 1% need the middle classes more than the middle classes need the 1%. And working 50 hours a week just to pay rent is not middle class.

Well maybe not break. Reset and start again more likely.

Is all of this by some nefarious, elite, design though, or is it simply the way capitalism, based on competition and self interest, evolves?

Everyone wants their house to maintain and increase in value. Everyone wants cheap "stuff" made, usually, halfway around the world. Lots of people don't want poor people and all the social issues that accompany them moving into their neighbourhood.

It's the way capitalism evolves. It trends towards monopoly. It's a good system, but it occasionally needs a little reset to work in the public interest.

[Eamonnca1]

I assume people know that capitalism can exist in different forms. 

This is extreme crony capitalism. Wars and natural resources attainment needed to stop the fractional reserve banking ponzi bubble from popping. Governments have allowed the elites to run the game for several decades and the debt bubble is completely out of control.

Fractional reserve lending is many things, but it's not a Ponzi scheme.

[Eamonnca1]

Betting odds:

Harris 5/6
Trump 23/20

Bit of momentum for the Dems now, making progress in PA.

[Blowitupref]

Betting odds:

Harris 5/6
Trump 23/20

Bit of momentum for the Dems now, making progress in PA.

Which bookmakers are those odds?


With Paddy Powers

Harris 1/5
Trump 7/2

And before the debate they had Trump as slight favourtie. Needless to say team Trump will be avoiding another debate between now and November voting.

[Nanderson]

Betting odds:

Harris 5/6
Trump 23/20

Bit of momentum for the Dems now, making progress in PA.

Which bookmakers are those odds?


With Paddy Powers

Harris 1/5
Trump 7/2

And before the debate they had Trump as slight favourtie. Needless to say team Trump will be avoiding another debate between now and November voting.

Thats the odds for the most votes which might not determine the actual election winner. PP still has Harris 4/5 and Trump 11/10

[Blowitupref]

Betting odds:

Harris 5/6
Trump 23/20

Bit of momentum for the Dems now, making progress in PA.

Which bookmakers are those odds?


With Paddy Powers

Harris 1/5
Trump 7/2

And before the debate they had Trump as slight favourtie. Needless to say team Trump will be avoiding another debate between now and November voting.

Thats the odds for the most votes which might not determine the actual election winner. PP still has Harris 4/5 and Trump 11/10

Fair enough and Trump has lost the two popular votes already and this should be three from three.

[Eamonnca1]

Betting odds:

Harris 5/6
Trump 23/20

Bit of momentum for the Dems now, making progress in PA.

Which bookmakers are those odds?


With Paddy Powers

Harris 1/5
Trump 7/2

And before the debate they had Trump as slight favourtie. Needless to say team Trump will be avoiding another debate between now and November voting.

Thats the odds for the most votes which might not determine the actual election winner. PP still has Harris 4/5 and Trump 11/10

Are you sure? I'm following Oddschecker which is showing the odds of who the winner will be.

[Eamonnca1]

Betting odds:

Harris 5/6
Trump 23/20

Bit of momentum for the Dems now, making progress in PA.

Which bookmakers are those odds?


With Paddy Powers

Harris 1/5
Trump 7/2

And before the debate they had Trump as slight favourtie. Needless to say team Trump will be avoiding another debate between now and November voting.

It's an average of various betting markets. https://www.oddschecker.com/us/politics/us-politics

[Eamonnca1]

Trump: I don't think I've ever said this before. So we do these rallies. They're massive rallies. Everybody loves, everybody stays till the end. By the way, you know, when she said that, well, your rallies people leave. Honestly, nobody does. And if I saw them leaving, I'd say, and ladies and gentlemen make America great again and I'd get the hell out, ok? Because I don't want people leaving. But I do have to say so I give these long sometimes very complex sentences and paragraphs but they all come together. I do it a lot. I do it with raising cane. That story. I do it with the story on the catapults on the aircraft carriers. I do it with a lot of different stories. When I mentioned Doctor Hannibal Lecter. I'm using that as an example of people that are coming in from Silence of the Lambs. I use it. They say it's terrible. So they say so I'll give this long complex area for instance that I talked about a lot of different territory... You know, for a town hall, there's a lot of people but the fake news likes to say, the fake news likes to say, oh, he was rambling. No, no, that's not rambling. That's genius. When you can connect the dots. Now, now, Sarah, if you couldn't connect the dots, you got a problem. But every dot was connected and many stories were told in that little paragraph

[theskull1]

Shame no one's assassinated him .... eh Eamonn?

[Milltown Row2]

Shame no one's assassinated him .... eh Eamonn?

I'd settle for someone to assassinate his waffle, the heist on channel four last night was very good.. conspiracy is strong in the US

[Simon OParlon]

Harris really really rattled him by taunting him about people leaving his rallieS.

Such a fragile ego.

[Captain Obvious]

Shame no one's assassinated him .... eh Eamonn?

I'd settle for someone to assassinate his waffle, the heist on channel four last night was very good.. conspiracy is strong in the US

If only..

[theskull1]

Who killed JFK

When AIPAC almost had to register as a foreign agent