Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

Started by Main Street, February 12, 2022, 09:38:45 PM

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PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Main Street on April 22, 2022, 05:42:46 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 22, 2022, 02:24:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 22, 2022, 02:02:47 PM
Quote from: Dag Dog on April 22, 2022, 12:31:27 PM
Do people like Clare Daly who set out their stall as justice campaigners always veer into madness eventually, or was she mad all along but it was kept under wraps?
There's a long tradition of west european left/peace campaigners who only criticized NATO. The German Green movement only campaigned to disarm western Europe and supported the existence of East Germany under Honecker and communism, no quid pro quo deescalation.
The west european peace/left  movements did not campaign against or  criticize USSR imperialism and the chronic political, economic and social suppression of so called satellite states in east europe
SF the Workers Party in Ireland is a case in point, from its inception - an Eoghan Harris masterpiece https://cedarlounge.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/iir.pdf  only condemned USA imperialism and peppered their manifesto with marxist leninist dogma. Later the Workers Party still aligned itself with International communism, pro USSR. They disintegrated into various splits when the USSR broke up.

This is a high profile gig for Clare and Mick. It's a gravy train for a Euro mp who actively supports Assad/Iran  and their proxies in Iraq, bellow loud about NATO/USA and silent about Russia military aggression. When they peddle their mantra 'no weapons to Ukraine', they are de facto supporting Russia's invasion and ambitions in Ukraine.  And this in context of months of international  attempts to negotiate a settlement pre invasion. If they don't get reelected, there's always the option to join lost politicians George Galloway  and Alex Salmond on Russia Today.

https://twitter.com/ClareDalyMEP/status/1496873424760844304?t=OVZS2Usgwd9N_nIk5nIWJw&s=19

Can you read the statement and advise where they are calling for what you continually "peddle".. they have articulated their position clearly... you continually misrepresent it.
I have read that statement and replied to it before in this thread, as the first tweeted reply states it's complete utter drivel, de facto support of Russia's  war and ambitions under some nonsense of a UN negotiated settlement.
How long  do we wait for that settlement  while Mick and Clare campaign for Ukraine to be virtually disarmed and emasculated of any bargaining power, while Ukrainian towns  cities are being bombarded to rubble. Not just drivel but also first class hypocrisy.

the statement says nothing of the sort... "Russia must withdraw it troops from Ukraine immediately and cease all military operations"... there is no call for Ukraine to be emasculated.


Dag Dog

Quote from: trailer on April 22, 2022, 02:09:08 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 22, 2022, 01:06:29 AM
I read that Claire and Mick have been surgically exposed by Naomi O'Leary in the IT  for what they are, hypocrites and ideologically bankrupt.
https://twitter.com/NaomiOhReally/status/1515228143086354435

It's a pity, though Mick was always a bit of a dullard but Claire had potential in the Irish political context to effect the pursuit of 'truth, justice, and a better tomorrow'.  Why she and Mick chose to seek election to the European Parliament was a curious choice but after reading the article and having observed their conduct in the wake of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, their choice makes sense and not of the honest ideological sort.
It's a strange irony that they have refused to answer questions about their conduct set by Naomi, have called for her to be expelled from the Euro parliament and have initiated libel proceedings against her in Ireland despite their public stance of support for a free press and  taking a stand against such libel actions to shut down investigations.

Difficult to understand why people elect them.
I bet a lot of people still think Mick Wallace is a great lad because he dresses like a beggar and doesn't toe the establishment line.

Eire90

pro russian  graffiti seen in northern ireland probably from the conspiracy mccloskey brigade who have been going around the north west they billions said would die from the vaccine by winter it did not happen now they think putin will save them

marty34

Quote from: Eire90 on April 24, 2022, 06:55:19 PM
pro russian  graffiti seen in northern ireland probably from the conspiracy mccloskey brigade who have been going around the north west they billions said would die from the vaccine by winter it did not happen now they think putin will save them

Where's this at?

clarshack

Quote from: marty34 on April 24, 2022, 07:29:39 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on April 24, 2022, 06:55:19 PM
pro russian  graffiti seen in northern ireland probably from the conspiracy mccloskey brigade who have been going around the north west they billions said would die from the vaccine by winter it did not happen now they think putin will save them

Where's this at?

Dark Hedges

JoG2

Quote from: Eire90 on April 24, 2022, 06:55:19 PM
pro russian  graffiti seen in northern ireland probably from the conspiracy mccloskey brigade who have been going around the north west they billions said would die from the vaccine by winter it did not happen now they think putin will save them

The great reset. There's a couple of vocal conspiracy loons up these parts shouting about QAnon now. The mind boggles

Wildweasel74

I was there earlier same day(not guilty by the way) still plenty of European visitors there during the day, so I suspect it was probably visitors but it not dark to after 9, so hard to tell

seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/2e67861d-f880-48c4-a11a-9bbe62be9a73

Since the invasion began, more than 40 countries have referred Russia to the ICC for investigation. The clamour has been fed by multiple attacks on civilian targets including Russia's bombardment of a maternity hospital, and a theatre where women and children were sheltering in Mariupol, as well as Friday's missile attack on a railway station in Kramatorsk that killed dozens.

https://www.ft.com/content/2e67861d-f880-48c4-a11a-9bbe62be9a73

Bucha — a short drive from Kyiv — is only one small window into what they believe is a pattern of unlawful killings, rapes and other crimes against civilians in swaths of eastern and southern Ukraine that were seized after the Russian invasion began on February 24, in what Putin called a "special military operation". In other Kyiv suburbs from which Russian troops have withdrawn in recent days, photographers at the scene took shocking pictures: corpses stuffed into wells with bags over their heads; a dead woman with a swastika carved into her flesh, a brutal reflection of Putin's casus belli of defeating "Nazis" in Ukraine. Even before the massacres, work had begun in international justice circles on tracking abuses connected to the Russian attack.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Keyser soze

Quote from: seafoid on April 27, 2022, 04:17:47 PM
https://www.ft.com/content/2e67861d-f880-48c4-a11a-9bbe62be9a73

Since the invasion began, more than 40 countries have referred Russia to the ICC for investigation. The clamour has been fed by multiple attacks on civilian targets including Russia's bombardment of a maternity hospital, and a theatre where women and children were sheltering in Mariupol, as well as Friday's missile attack on a railway station in Kramatorsk that killed dozens.

https://www.ft.com/content/2e67861d-f880-48c4-a11a-9bbe62be9a73

Bucha — a short drive from Kyiv — is only one small window into what they believe is a pattern of unlawful killings, rapes and other crimes against civilians in swaths of eastern and southern Ukraine that were seized after the Russian invasion began on February 24, in what Putin called a "special military operation". In other Kyiv suburbs from which Russian troops have withdrawn in recent days, photographers at the scene took shocking pictures: corpses stuffed into wells with bags over their heads; a dead woman with a swastika carved into her flesh, a brutal reflection of Putin's casus belli of defeating "Nazis" in Ukraine. Even before the massacres, work had begun in international justice circles on tracking abuses connected to the Russian attack.


Sure its only a culture war.

seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/f299cb83-9f12-484b-8839-12ec96c87a72


Trashing Ukraine and making the west look weak, with the ultimate aim of strengthening the regime's hold on power, is what drives Kremlin policy at the moment; with Putin as the winner and the only person who can save Russia," says one European intelligence officer. 

"Even though Russia's operational focus has shifted to the east, we still see that Russia's ultimate objective remains the same, which is to use military force to compel Ukraine to abandon its Euro-Atlantic orientation, and by extension reassert [Moscow's] regional dominance," says the senior Nato official

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

burdizzo

Quote from: seafoid on May 24, 2022, 09:31:03 AM
https://www.ft.com/content/f299cb83-9f12-484b-8839-12ec96c87a72


Trashing Ukraine and making the west look weak, with the ultimate aim of strengthening the regime's hold on power, is what drives Kremlin policy at the moment; with Putin as the winner and the only person who can save Russia," says one European intelligence officer. 



I think it's working.

bennydorano

Wow,, nearly a month since the last post on this, but probably illustrates the apathy that generally sets in after the initial waves of horror.

With Russia looking fairly near to 'liberating' the Luhansk-Donestk regions what does the short to medium term future hold now? With the cost of living spiralling a lot of countries are going to be hoping for a ceasefire / uneasy peace.

quit yo jibbajabba

Ben Stiller over atm so hopin he sorts it all out.

I mean ffs its hard to take it all serious when theres celebs droppin in every few days

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on June 21, 2022, 02:21:19 PM
Ben Stiller over atm so hopin he sorts it all out.

I mean ffs its hard to take it all serious when theres celebs droppin in every few days
To be fair he has been a UNHCR ambassador for decades. He didn't just rock up

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: bennydorano on June 21, 2022, 02:01:01 PM
With Russia looking fairly near to 'liberating' the Luhansk-Donestk regions what does the short to medium term future hold now? With the cost of living spiralling a lot of countries are going to be hoping for a ceasefire / uneasy peace.

Russia are still f**ked medium term.

Unfortunately, millions of poor bstards across the world will likely starve due to Putin's madness.
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