FAI...June 2024 Friendlies v Hungary and Portugal

[Baile Brigín 2]

We are drawing with a bunch of plumbers. We haven't the players

They are the Asian champions

[Baile Brigín 2]

Positives of that 3 game week
-Bazunu is now first choice. A gem and frightning at 19.
-O'Shea looks a long term replacement for Duffy.
- Its over

[Baile Brigín 2]

A Dynamo Kiev striker scored the winner past a Rochdale goalkeeper the other night

On loan from Man City who paid a million for him at 17...

[Armagh18]

We are drawing with a bunch of plumbers. We haven't the players

They are the Asian champions

That's like saying they are Lory Meagher champions. Hardly means they're the gold standard

[shark]

We are drawing with a bunch of plumbers. We haven't the players

They are the Asian champions

That's like saying they are Lory Meagher champions. Hardly means they're the gold standard

So there is the "gold standard" and "a bunch of plumbers", with nothing in between? Nuance is dead.

[seafoid]

It's like the Dubs in the mid 00s.
Older players weren't good enough.
Psychology was poor. Young players adopted losing attitude. Losses added up
It takes time to turn this kind of thing around
https://youtu.be/O3G1bwD0ao0

[Armagh18]

We are drawing with a bunch of plumbers. We haven't the players

They are the Asian champions

That's like saying they are Lory Meagher champions. Hardly means they're the gold standard

So there is the "gold standard" and "a bunch of plumbers", with nothing in between? Nuance is dead.

They're not a bunch of plumbers but ffs they're a poor side we should be thumping if we'd anything about us. There's massive problems in Irish soccer and sacking Kenny won't fix that.

[shark]

We are drawing with a bunch of plumbers. We haven't the players

They are the Asian champions

That's like saying they are Lory Meagher champions. Hardly means they're the gold standard

So there is the "gold standard" and "a bunch of plumbers", with nothing in between? Nuance is dead.

They're not a bunch of plumbers but ffs they're a poor side we should be thumping if we'd anything about us. There's massive problems in Irish soccer and sacking Kenny won't fix that.

Agreed.

[Itchy]

The main criticism I would have of Kenny is his insistence on playing out from the keeper when under a high press. This is just the latest fad that everyone is trying to do. Teams who do this well and successfully do it becuase they have better players than the team they are pressing, thats the whole point. Its the same in GAA, you press the kickout to force him to kick long because you have an advantage on a long kick out.

Ireland do not have better passing players than nearly any team at the moment. For me we should stop this nonsense of rolling the ball to a player inside the small box, kick out the ball (if there is a press), fight for it and win possession in midfield and then focus on breaking down the opposition defence - something else we are not good at.

The bottom line is we dont have the players anymore to qualify for tournaments and sacking Kenny is just stupid to be honest.

[seafoid]

The last time things were this bad was 1968-71 when they didn't win a match. But there were no candyass opposition teams, they didn't play a team with a lower population and the Euros were serious.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2021/0329/1206780-four-year-run-of-results-spells-out-size-of-job-ahead/

[JPGJOHNNYG]

The main criticism I would have of Kenny is his insistence on playing out from the keeper when under a high press. This is just the latest fad that everyone is trying to do. Teams who do this well and successfully do it becuase they have better players than the team they are pressing, thats the whole point. Its the same in GAA, you press the kickout to force him to kick long because you have an advantage on a long kick out.

Ireland do not have better passing players than nearly any team at the moment. For me we should stop this nonsense of rolling the ball to a player inside the small box, kick out the ball (if there is a press), fight for it and win possession in midfield and then focus on breaking down the opposition defence - something else we are not good at.

The bottom line is we dont have the players anymore to qualify for tournaments and sacking Kenny is just stupid to be honest.

So we just keep him for the next 10 yrs when it so clearly isnt working?
11 games is more than Micks last reign plus he had an additional 2 yrs before that knowing the job was his to prep
There are a lot of excuses floating around but at the end of the day the guy just isnt up to it.
We may not have the players to qualify but we are a lot better than the last 11 results would suggest. Talking Luxembourg and Qatar up is just getting embarrassing.

[trailer]

The main criticism I would have of Kenny is his insistence on playing out from the keeper when under a high press. This is just the latest fad that everyone is trying to do. Teams who do this well and successfully do it becuase they have better players than the team they are pressing, thats the whole point. Its the same in GAA, you press the kickout to force him to kick long because you have an advantage on a long kick out.

Ireland do not have better passing players than nearly any team at the moment. For me we should stop this nonsense of rolling the ball to a player inside the small box, kick out the ball (if there is a press), fight for it and win possession in midfield and then focus on breaking down the opposition defence - something else we are not good at.

The bottom line is we dont have the players anymore to qualify for tournaments and sacking Kenny is just stupid to be honest.

So we just keep him for the next 10 yrs when it so clearly isnt working?
11 games is more than Micks last reign plus he had an additional 2 yrs before that knowing the job was his to prep
There are a lot of excuses floating around but at the end of the day the guy just isnt up to it.
We may not have the players to qualify but we are a lot better than the last 11 results would suggest. Talking Luxembourg and Qatar up is just getting embarrassing.

How long did Stan get when he running around losing to Cyprus? Did he get the full campaign? This campaign is a write off. Leave him to it. Hopefully 11 superstars emerge over the next year or so.

[Itchy]

The main criticism I would have of Kenny is his insistence on playing out from the keeper when under a high press. This is just the latest fad that everyone is trying to do. Teams who do this well and successfully do it becuase they have better players than the team they are pressing, thats the whole point. Its the same in GAA, you press the kickout to force him to kick long because you have an advantage on a long kick out.

Ireland do not have better passing players than nearly any team at the moment. For me we should stop this nonsense of rolling the ball to a player inside the small box, kick out the ball (if there is a press), fight for it and win possession in midfield and then focus on breaking down the opposition defence - something else we are not good at.

The bottom line is we dont have the players anymore to qualify for tournaments and sacking Kenny is just stupid to be honest.

So we just keep him for the next 10 yrs when it so clearly isnt working?
11 games is more than Micks last reign plus he had an additional 2 yrs before that knowing the job was his to prep
There are a lot of excuses floating around but at the end of the day the guy just isnt up to it.
We may not have the players to qualify but we are a lot better than the last 11 results would suggest. Talking Luxembourg and Qatar up is just getting embarrassing.

I didnt say keep him for 10 years.

Luxembourg were leading Portugal and lost only 1-3. The Lux of old would be bet 5 nil every time against a team like Portugal. They are not brilliant but its not the team of postmen that they once were. Qatar, I know nothing about, but they looked to have a few handy players last night. If you want to consider a real joke team I present you Gibraltar, a true old style amateur soccer team. How did Mick (suddenly the worlds best manager) get on against them?

The truth is the standards are being raised in other countries and the standard in this country is going down big time.

I think it is a joke to keep blaming the manager for this although I do think he could and should tweak some of the things he is doing.

[MayoBuck]

The main criticism I would have of Kenny is his insistence on playing out from the keeper when under a high press. This is just the latest fad that everyone is trying to do. Teams who do this well and successfully do it becuase they have better players than the team they are pressing, thats the whole point. Its the same in GAA, you press the kickout to force him to kick long because you have an advantage on a long kick out.

Ireland do not have better passing players than nearly any team at the moment. For me we should stop this nonsense of rolling the ball to a player inside the small box, kick out the ball (if there is a press), fight for it and win possession in midfield and then focus on breaking down the opposition defence - something else we are not good at.

The bottom line is we dont have the players anymore to qualify for tournaments and sacking Kenny is just stupid to be honest.

So we just keep him for the next 10 yrs when it so clearly isnt working?
11 games is more than Micks last reign plus he had an additional 2 yrs before that knowing the job was his to prep
There are a lot of excuses floating around but at the end of the day the guy just isnt up to it.
We may not have the players to qualify but we are a lot better than the last 11 results would suggest. Talking Luxembourg and Qatar up is just getting embarrassing.

Kenny should finish out this campaign. Nothing to lose so may as well see if he can develop a new team. The FAI can't afford to sack him and hire someone else.

There will have to be a major upturn in results to get a new contract however.

[Armagh18]

The main criticism I would have of Kenny is his insistence on playing out from the keeper when under a high press. This is just the latest fad that everyone is trying to do. Teams who do this well and successfully do it becuase they have better players than the team they are pressing, thats the whole point. Its the same in GAA, you press the kickout to force him to kick long because you have an advantage on a long kick out.

Ireland do not have better passing players than nearly any team at the moment. For me we should stop this nonsense of rolling the ball to a player inside the small box, kick out the ball (if there is a press), fight for it and win possession in midfield and then focus on breaking down the opposition defence - something else we are not good at.

The bottom line is we dont have the players anymore to qualify for tournaments and sacking Kenny is just stupid to be honest.

So we just keep him for the next 10 yrs when it so clearly isnt working?
11 games is more than Micks last reign plus he had an additional 2 yrs before that knowing the job was his to prep
There are a lot of excuses floating around but at the end of the day the guy just isnt up to it.
We may not have the players to qualify but we are a lot better than the last 11 results would suggest. Talking Luxembourg and Qatar up is just getting embarrassing.

I didnt say keep him for 10 years.

Luxembourg were leading Portugal and lost only 1-3. The Lux of old would be bet 5 nil every time against a team like Portugal. They are not brilliant but its not the team of postmen that they once were. Qatar, I know nothing about, but they looked to have a few handy players last night. If you want to consider a real joke team I present you Gibraltar, a true old style amateur soccer team. How did Mick (suddenly the worlds best manager) get on against them?

The truth is the standards are being raised in other countries and the standard in this country is going down big time.

I think it is a joke to keep blaming the manager for this although I do think he could and should tweak some of the things he is doing.

I'd agree with that. We need to move on from the days of hoof it up and hope for the best- partly because we don't have the players to even implement that and also because it's no way to play football. We should be able to strike a balance between the possession game we're trying to play and the old fashioned hoofball.