RG at arms length

Started by seafoid, May 15, 2023, 11:40:53 AM

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smelmoth

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 16, 2023, 01:50:39 PM
Quote from: smelmoth on May 16, 2023, 01:40:18 PM
And not one of those posts by me even mention a criminal investigation.

If you are wanting someone to investigate a potential crime, determine the truth and then take action based on the outcome of said investigation, then it is a criminal investigation.

Criminal investigations can be conducted by people other than the police you know.

Well in my experience criminal investigations are carried out by the police.

The questions that I and other feel Derry should have asked when they became aware of the allegations have already been set out. But I am sure in time Derry will confirm all of this.

Armaghtothebone

Quote from: nrico2006 on May 16, 2023, 08:37:23 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on May 16, 2023, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 16, 2023, 08:17:53 PM
Quote from: ck on May 16, 2023, 05:02:05 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 16, 2023, 03:26:32 PM
Quote from: ck on May 16, 2023, 02:20:35 PM
Pleasantly surprised at the measured commentary on here on this situation.

What we know is that Nicola was brutally abused for 24years and was forced to turn to alcohol in an attempt to cope and save her kids. Witnesses have come forward to back up the allegations. Rory has not denied any aspect of the allegations and instead chose to smear his ex wife and use her alcohol problem as a deflection.

These are the facts.
Until there is a clear denial on his part then he can have no part in any GAA team and I believe Derry and Ulster GAA should be much stronger on this in public as I believe they are behind the scenes. As it stands Gallagher will never be involved in the GAA again.

We don't know for a fact that she was abused for 24 years and so forth. A Facebook post doesn't turn someone's narrative into undeniable truth.

Witnesses have come forward to state they witnessed actions referred to in her statement. This would suggest that the claims are factual.

Where have you read testimony of impartial witnesses? Please don't tell me Facebook.

Are you shagging RG on the side? Jesus never seen a man as passionate for him as you since the news broke

Very unlikeable individual but this trial by media craic sickens my hole.

Good job you weren't about to tell Chris Mullan that!
Sometimes journalists have to do the work that the judicial system gets wrong.

What sickens my hole is that someone who may have abused his wife for years  might get away with it.

It's now a.matter of fact that he beat her so badly she ended up in Monaghan hospital.  ( or is Stephen Maguires wife making it all up?)

Mourne Red

Quote from: nrico2006 on May 16, 2023, 08:37:23 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on May 16, 2023, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 16, 2023, 08:17:53 PM
Quote from: ck on May 16, 2023, 05:02:05 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 16, 2023, 03:26:32 PM
Quote from: ck on May 16, 2023, 02:20:35 PM
Pleasantly surprised at the measured commentary on here on this situation.

What we know is that Nicola was brutally abused for 24years and was forced to turn to alcohol in an attempt to cope and save her kids. Witnesses have come forward to back up the allegations. Rory has not denied any aspect of the allegations and instead chose to smear his ex wife and use her alcohol problem as a deflection.

These are the facts.
Until there is a clear denial on his part then he can have no part in any GAA team and I believe Derry and Ulster GAA should be much stronger on this in public as I believe they are behind the scenes. As it stands Gallagher will never be involved in the GAA again.

We don't know for a fact that she was abused for 24 years and so forth. A Facebook post doesn't turn someone's narrative into undeniable truth.

Witnesses have come forward to state they witnessed actions referred to in her statement. This would suggest that the claims are factual.

Where have you read testimony of impartial witnesses? Please don't tell me Facebook.

Are you shagging RG on the side? Jesus never seen a man as passionate for him as you since the news broke

Very unlikeable individual but this trial by media craic sickens my hole.

Trial by social media is just trial by pub talk / tea gossip.. It's always happened just people have larger audience nowadays

Tubberman

"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

Gold

"Cheeky Charlie McKenna..."

Saffrongael

Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

screenexile

The right call... it should have been made last week when he couldn't deny the allegations.

Hopefully we can focus on the football from now on!

ck

He has resigned. Pushed I would guess.

SaffronSports

Biggest news here is whatever that was last week wasn't him resigning and he did think there was a way back.

trailer

Quote from: SaffronSports on May 16, 2023, 10:07:11 PM
Biggest news here is whatever that was last week wasn't him resigning and he did think there was a way back.

Very true. The guy has no ability to read the room. 

STREET FIGHTER

Quote from: SaffronSports on May 16, 2023, 10:07:11 PM
Biggest news here is whatever that was last week wasn't him resigning and he did think there was a way back.

Crazy....

I took it as done last week!


Mourne Red

The Derry Co Board are annoying me more and more with their no statement bullshit.

thebuzz

Quote from: johnnycool on May 16, 2023, 09:54:10 AM
Quote from: smelmoth on May 16, 2023, 09:38:04 AM
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Quote from: smelmoth on May 16, 2023, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2023, 07:46:17 AM
So anyone can email a county board with an allegation and they must stand down the manager?

Who has actually said that?

It's not so much as said that, but people have done it and it works. The case here in question I'm totally behind Mrs Gallagher my point is that anyone can send an email or go on to social media and make claims about someone.

Would you be happy if you had allegations (true or false) made public via social media that would have wider implications on your kids and job and that would have even more implications on caring for your children should you lose your job over it?

The courts are there for a reason, to settle these issues. Court by social media though seems to be the way of the world.

Nobody is saying the courts should not do their job but right back at the beginning of this the "suspended pending investigation" route was explained and what steps you would need to take before suspending the individual.

Derry had their own decision to make and steps to take. All of which have already been set out.

Put yourself in Derry CB's position if they did get that email from Nicola's dad.

Your response would be that due to the seriousness of the allegations that he should go to the police with them.

In the meantime you'd have a duty of care to all to face Rory with what you've been informed about and as we've seen from his release, he probably told them (or would have told them) that these claims have been "dealt with" during the custody case and he's been cleared and now has custody of the children.

What do Derry CB do next?

They really can't be ignoring an email of that type all the same, that's really bad if they did.

Quote from: Mourne Red on May 16, 2023, 11:40:15 PM
The Derry Co Board are annoying me more and more with their no statement bullshit.

Gallagher deserves the book to be thrown at him and I hope he does time for the awful abuse he has dished out to his poor wife over the years.

However maybe I'm being naive but I can't see why the major witch hunt against the Derry board in the wake of all this.

They may or may not have got an email but by not speaking out it's not like they were protecting him like the Catholic Church used to protect paedophiles who were free to abuse again and again.

I would think most of this abuse was in the past so I'd think it is unlikely that he would be offending again in the same way.

Before I get a written battering I'd like to say I totally abhor all violence.



Armagh18

Quote from: nrico2006 on May 16, 2023, 08:37:23 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on May 16, 2023, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 16, 2023, 08:17:53 PM
Quote from: ck on May 16, 2023, 05:02:05 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 16, 2023, 03:26:32 PM
Quote from: ck on May 16, 2023, 02:20:35 PM
Pleasantly surprised at the measured commentary on here on this situation.

What we know is that Nicola was brutally abused for 24years and was forced to turn to alcohol in an attempt to cope and save her kids. Witnesses have come forward to back up the allegations. Rory has not denied any aspect of the allegations and instead chose to smear his ex wife and use her alcohol problem as a deflection.

These are the facts.
Until there is a clear denial on his part then he can have no part in any GAA team and I believe Derry and Ulster GAA should be much stronger on this in public as I believe they are behind the scenes. As it stands Gallagher will never be involved in the GAA again.

We don't know for a fact that she was abused for 24 years and so forth. A Facebook post doesn't turn someone's narrative into undeniable truth.

Witnesses have come forward to state they witnessed actions referred to in her statement. This would suggest that the claims are factual.

Where have you read testimony of impartial witnesses? Please don't tell me Facebook.

Are you shagging RG on the side? Jesus never seen a man as passionate for him as you since the news broke

Very unlikeable individual but this trial by media craic sickens my hole.
Me too; but jesus given what we're hearing and the lack of denial I think it doesnt take much to work out the truth