How strong is Ulster compared to the other provinces?

[seafoid]

Are Armagh and Derry the real thing or will Tyrone walk all over them ?
It's a long way to Christmas

[thewobbler]

You could just lock this thread until Christmas then?

Plenty of club stuff to be after.

[tbrick18]

Are Armagh and Derry the real thing or will Tyrone walk all over them ?
It's a long way to Christmas

I think Derry and Armagh will remain competitive in Ulster. Tyrone, can't be as bad as this year, but unless they improve their panel from what it was this year, they will not walk over anyone. They could slide back even more.

Hard to know what Monaghan/Donegal will be like given new management coming in and probably new playing personnel. Will Murphy still be there for Donegal?

Antrim improved, but still not a threat IMO.
Cavan might surprise a few next year with their run in the Tealteann cup this year.
Down - can't see them doing much, but who know.

Compare to other provinces, we're probably still most competitive where realistically we have at least 4 teams in with a real chance of winning the provincial.
On the all Ireland stage, we have 5 teams in the top 10 in the country, so in general I'd say compared to other provinces we are very strong. However, none of those 5 teams would be favourites for an AI - Kerry, Dublin, Galway all would be ahead of them.

For what it's worth, my opinion on to 10 teams in order are:

Kerry
Dublin
Galway
Derry
Armagh
Mayo
Donegal
Monaghan
Tyrone
Roscommon


**Getting ready for the outrage at some of the ratings 

[armaghniac]

Are Armagh and Derry the real thing or will Tyrone walk all over them ?
It's a long way to Christmas

My prediction is that Tyrone will not beat Armagh or Derry before Christmas. The Tyrone club champions may well be beaten by the Armagh or Derry champions though.

[Eire90]

percentage wise could you say Connaught is strong.

[Rossfan]

CONNACHT

[clonadmad]

percentage wise could you say Connaught is strong.

Spot the Brit

[JoG2]

CONNACHT

MAYO

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

Are Armagh and Derry the real thing or will Tyrone walk all over them ?
It's a long way to Christmas

I think Derry and Armagh will remain competitive in Ulster. Tyrone, can't be as bad as this year, but unless they improve their panel from what it was this year, they will not walk over anyone. They could slide back even more.

Hard to know what Monaghan/Donegal will be like given new management coming in and probably new playing personnel. Will Murphy still be there for Donegal?

Antrim improved, but still not a threat IMO.
Cavan might surprise a few next year with their run in the Tealteann cup this year.
Down - can't see them doing much, but who know.

Compare to other provinces, we're probably still most competitive where realistically we have at least 4 teams in with a real chance of winning the provincial.
On the all Ireland stage, we have 5 teams in the top 10 in the country, so in general I'd say compared to other provinces we are very strong. However, none of those 5 teams would be favourites for an AI - Kerry, Dublin, Galway all would be ahead of them.

For what it's worth, my opinion on to 10 teams in order are:

Kerry
Dublin
Galway
Derry
Armagh
Mayo
Donegal
Monaghan
Tyrone
Roscommon


**Getting ready for the outrage at some of the ratings 

Haven't felt this underrated since... 2021! Keep 'er lit! 

[armaghniac]

Haven't felt this underrated since... 2021! Keep 'er lit! 

We don't underrate you. Armagh beat Tyrone 3 times in 2022, I wouldn't be surprised if it was only twice in 2023.

[Turf]

Are Armagh and Derry the real thing or will Tyrone walk all over them ?
It's a long way to Christmas

I think Derry and Armagh will remain competitive in Ulster. Tyrone, can't be as bad as this year, but unless they improve their panel from what it was this year, they will not walk over anyone. They could slide back even more.

Hard to know what Monaghan/Donegal will be like given new management coming in and probably new playing personnel. Will Murphy still be there for Donegal?

Antrim improved, but still not a threat IMO.
Cavan might surprise a few next year with their run in the Tealteann cup this year.
Down - can't see them doing much, but who know.

Compare to other provinces, we're probably still most competitive where realistically we have at least 4 teams in with a real chance of winning the provincial.
On the all Ireland stage, we have 5 teams in the top 10 in the country, so in general I'd say compared to other provinces we are very strong. However, none of those 5 teams would be favourites for an AI - Kerry, Dublin, Galway all would be ahead of them.

For what it's worth, my opinion on to 10 teams in order are:

Kerry
Dublin
Galway
Derry
Armagh
Mayo
Donegal
Monaghan
Tyrone
Roscommon


**Getting ready for the outrage at some of the ratings 

Roscommon 

[Blowitupref]

Are Armagh and Derry the real thing or will Tyrone walk all over them ?
It's a long way to Christmas

I think Derry and Armagh will remain competitive in Ulster. Tyrone, can't be as bad as this year, but unless they improve their panel from what it was this year, they will not walk over anyone. They could slide back even more.

Hard to know what Monaghan/Donegal will be like given new management coming in and probably new playing personnel. Will Murphy still be there for Donegal?

Antrim improved, but still not a threat IMO.
Cavan might surprise a few next year with their run in the Tealteann cup this year.
Down - can't see them doing much, but who know.

Compare to other provinces, we're probably still most competitive where realistically we have at least 4 teams in with a real chance of winning the provincial.
On the all Ireland stage, we have 5 teams in the top 10 in the country, so in general I'd say compared to other provinces we are very strong. However, none of those 5 teams would be favourites for an AI - Kerry, Dublin, Galway all would be ahead of them.

For what it's worth, my opinion on to 10 teams in order are:

Kerry
Dublin
Galway
Derry
Armagh
Mayo
Donegal
Monaghan
Tyrone
Roscommon


**Getting ready for the outrage at some of the ratings 

Roscommon 

Every year since 2015 they have been in either the top in Div 2 or playing in Div 1 so 10th probably about right.

[ONeill]

You only have to look at Division 1. Armagh, Donegal, Monaghan, Tyrone....and Derry are not out of place in Division one if placed there. If drawn in the prelim of Ulster you could meet 4 of those sides in order to win Ulster.

Down are in a bit of a lull. Antrim, Cavan and Fermanagh will yoyo between 2 and 4.

[bennydorano]

You only have to look at Division 1. Armagh, Donegal, Monaghan, Tyrone....and Derry are not out of place in Division one if placed there. If drawn in the prelim of Ulster you could meet 4 of those sides in order to win Ulster.

Down are in a bit of a lull. Antrim, Cavan and Fermanagh will yoyo between 2 and 4.

I wouldn't have Cavan in with the other 3 at all, they've plenty of good footballers & a good manager. I doubt they'd fear any team in Ulster.

[Itchy]

Are Armagh and Derry the real thing or will Tyrone walk all over them ?
It's a long way to Christmas

I think Derry and Armagh will remain competitive in Ulster. Tyrone, can't be as bad as this year, but unless they improve their panel from what it was this year, they will not walk over anyone. They could slide back even more.

Hard to know what Monaghan/Donegal will be like given new management coming in and probably new playing personnel. Will Murphy still be there for Donegal?

Antrim improved, but still not a threat IMO.
Cavan might surprise a few next year with their run in the Tealteann cup this year.
Down - can't see them doing much, but who know.

Compare to other provinces, we're probably still most competitive where realistically we have at least 4 teams in with a real chance of winning the provincial.
On the all Ireland stage, we have 5 teams in the top 10 in the country, so in general I'd say compared to other provinces we are very strong. However, none of those 5 teams would be favourites for an AI - Kerry, Dublin, Galway all would be ahead of them.

For what it's worth, my opinion on to 10 teams in order are:

Kerry
Dublin
Galway
Derry
Armagh
Mayo
Donegal
Monaghan
Tyrone
Roscommon


**Getting ready for the outrage at some of the ratings 

Roscommon 

Every year since 2015 they have been in either the top in Div 2 or playing in Div 1 so 10th probably about right.

Am I right in saying Armagh are the 5th best team in Ireland despite having won no league or championship trophy in say the last 5 years?