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The Advanced Mark rule, are you for or against?

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4 (9.1%)
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JoG2

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The Advanced Mark rule
« on: February 11, 2022, 12:59:43 PM »
Don't actually think I've spoken to anyone who is keen on this rule. For me it changes the game too much. Free flowing game, ball goes in, mark is called, entire game stops. I'm interested to see what the percentages are like for 'for' and 'against' and if anyone is happy with the rule, why?

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Re: The Advanced Mark rule
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2022, 01:16:53 PM »
The aim of it was 60 yards balls into the full forward line increasing high fielding, a throw back to 90s gaa. In reality it's 20m pop passes into a man's chest that stops the play and gets a handy score. Stupid rule.

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Re: The Advanced Mark rule
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2022, 02:15:41 PM »
Bullshit rule grossly unfair to defenders and as mentioned elsewhere, under todays rules does Canavan score the goal in 05 AIF or does Mulligan take a mark and handy point? But i'll say it again, first and foremost its an absolute kick in the balls to defenders who already have to play without any kind of offside type safety net afforded to other sports, the art of defending is sometimes losing the first chance to win the ball but getting back in position to apply pressure, dispossess etc. some perfectly good defending being punished

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Re: The Advanced Mark rule
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2022, 02:20:47 PM »
I dont know a single person who likes this rule.

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Re: The Advanced Mark rule
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2022, 02:24:25 PM »
Don't actually think I've spoken to anyone who is keen on this rule. For me it changes the game too much. Free flowing game, ball goes in, mark is called, entire game stops. I'm interested to see what the percentages are like for 'for' and 'against' and if anyone is happy with the rule, why?
Would be for it as a player, extra dimension to attacks, doesn't have to come down from the clouds. Majority of players went through a bad run of defensive football that is now transitioning back to expansive football. Encourages man to man battle inside rather than 15 men camped inside the scoring zone.

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Re: The Advanced Mark rule
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2022, 05:39:19 PM »
The aim of it was 60 yards balls into the full forward line increasing high fielding, a throw back to 90s gaa. In reality it's 20m pop passes into a man's chest that stops the play and gets a handy score. Stupid rule.
Horrible rule. Youíve hit the nail on the head. Even if someone does field a high pass, the play is ruined by the delay in taking a free kick.

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Re: The Advanced Mark rule
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2022, 05:50:36 PM »
A error by those in power to bring it in and need to get rid of it ASAP.
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Re: The Advanced Mark rule
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2022, 06:11:21 PM »
I like it. I think county teams have yet to really work adequately on it to their advantage.

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Re: The Advanced Mark rule
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2022, 08:16:13 PM »
The aim of it was 60 yards balls into the full forward line increasing high fielding, a throw back to 90s gaa. In reality it's 20m pop passes into a man's chest that stops the play and gets a handy score. Stupid rule.
Horrible rule. Youíve hit the nail on the head. Even if someone does field a high pass, the play is ruined by the delay in taking a free kick.
Very few of these marks are the result of outfielding an opponent in a contested situation. most are chest high balls to men in space. The reward to the forward is too great IMO

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Re: The Advanced Mark rule
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2022, 10:10:39 PM »
The aim of it was 60 yards balls into the full forward line increasing high fielding, a throw back to 90s gaa. In reality it's 20m pop passes into a man's chest that stops the play and gets a handy score. Stupid rule.
Horrible rule. Youíve hit the nail on the head. Even if someone does field a high pass, the play is ruined by the delay in taking a free kick.
Very few of these marks are the result of outfielding an opponent in a contested situation. most are chest high balls to men in space. The reward to the forward is too great IMO

How many of them are we seeing. Iíve seen plenty of matches without one happening. The problem is itís pretty difficult to execute the pass with the precision required. Shane Walsh had a brilliant 40 yard pass into an inside forward against Down and it resulted in a deserved score. Steelstown got 2 or 3 I think in the All Ireland intermediate final and those came about from great movement in the forwards and accuracy of pass. To me itís not really a massive issue as for most games Iíve seen you might get one or 2 maximum and itís not having a major impact.

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Re: The Advanced Mark rule
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2022, 11:27:50 PM »
The aim of it was 60 yards balls into the full forward line increasing high fielding, a throw back to 90s gaa. In reality it's 20m pop passes into a man's chest that stops the play and gets a handy score. Stupid rule.
Horrible rule. Youíve hit the nail on the head. Even if someone does field a high pass, the play is ruined by the delay in taking a free kick.
Very few of these marks are the result of outfielding an opponent in a contested situation. most are chest high balls to men in space. The reward to the forward is too great IMO

This is it exactly. We have an ugly, interrupted spectacle as men are rewarded for executing very basic, unremarkable skills under little pressure.

And when you can win a free in the scoring zone with an easy short pass into a man in a pocket of space, why would you ever try to land a high ball in on top of your FF line? It encourages the type of conservative, low risk football that we all complain about.

It needs to go.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2022, 12:10:36 AM by Ed Ricketts »
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Re: The Advanced Mark rule
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2022, 11:57:28 PM »
Bottom line.

Whatever the rule was introduced to do, it hasnít done it.

So change it. Or get rid  of it. But thereís no reason to maintain it.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2022, 12:24:45 AM by thewobbler »

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Re: The Advanced Mark rule
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2022, 08:13:06 AM »
Iíve seen no improvement, in fact most players (in games Iím involved in) miss their free shot, Iíve noticed more quick frees to lads in better positions.

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Re: The Advanced Mark rule
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2022, 10:55:56 PM »
Bottom line.

Whatever the rule was introduced to do, it hasnít done it.

So change it. Or get rid  of it. But thereís no reason to maintain it.
This. I'm completely unsure as to what the problem was the mark was designed to fix. There is too much tinkering going on.

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Re: The Advanced Mark rule
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2022, 11:21:24 PM »
There was an incident tonight where a Fermanagh man caught the ball and McQuillan blew the whistle. So the Erne lad stopped to take the mark but didn't signal he was going to. McGeary was beside him and slapped the ball out of his hands after a few seconds for that reason. McQuillan moved the ball forward. McGeary remonstrated that yer man didn't signal it.

Was Joe correct?
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