The Patronising Dublin Fan Thread

[Captain Obvious]

All that money spent on coaching over the last 10 years. Have they nobody coming through ?

They reached U20 All-Ireland finals in 2019, 2020 they should have a handful of those players coming through now however are struggling to do so under their poor Dessie Farrell management setup.

[Main Street]

Their "big" players were so bad yesterday, Kilkenny dreadful

Kilkenny was one of their shining light when the rest of the team was playing poorly but the last few games he has been poor when he should be in his prime. Fenton has been poor all League.

Fitzsimmons was cleaned out yesterday by Jack McCarron whilst Cooper and McCarthy looked their age. McCarthy has got crankier over the last year or so as his powers wane and a bit like Michael Murphy for Donegal it is sad to see once great players reduced to continual bouts of ill discipline.

The ref was overly fussy in that game, a player did not have to do much if anything to get booked or penalised so who knows what McCarthy did to get his 2nd yellow.

[seafoid]

All that money spent on coaching over the last 10 years. Have they nobody coming through ?

They reached U20 All-Ireland finals in 2019, 2020 they should have a handful of those players coming through now however are struggling to do so under their poor Dessie Farrell management setup.

It's crazy that so many top level  teams -Kilkenny, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man Utd, Wales - struggled with the same problem.

[yellowcard]

Their "big" players were so bad yesterday, Kilkenny dreadful

Kilkenny was one of their shining light when the rest of the team was playing poorly but the last few games he has been poor when he should be in his prime. Fenton has been poor all League.

Fitzsimmons was cleaned out yesterday by Jack McCarron whilst Cooper and McCarthy looked their age. McCarthy has got crankier over the last year or so as his powers wane and a bit like Michael Murphy for Donegal it is sad to see once great players reduced to continual bouts of ill discipline.

The ref was overly fussy in that game, a player did not have to do much if anything to get booked or penalised so who knows what McCarthy did to get his 2nd yellow.

Perhaps he didn't do anything at all as it was off the ball, however it is all part of a trend for the last couple of seasons in several matches that I have watched. He lost his discipline at the end of last years semi final against Mayo as well when he should have been sent off for an elbow on O'Connor. It tends to happen to a lot of players as they near the end of their careers and realise that the body is not as fit to do the things that they were once capable of. 

[Gael85]

Their "big" players were so bad yesterday, Kilkenny dreadful

Kilkenny was one of their shining light when the rest of the team was playing poorly but the last few games he has been poor when he should be in his prime. Fenton has been poor all League.

Fitzsimmons was cleaned out yesterday by Jack McCarron whilst Cooper and McCarthy looked their age. McCarthy has got crankier over the last year or so as his powers wane and a bit like Michael Murphy for Donegal it is sad to see once great players reduced to continual bouts of ill discipline.

The ref was overly fussy in that game, a player did not have to do much if anything to get booked or penalised so who knows what McCarthy did to get his 2nd yellow.

McCarthy second yellow was for late foul on McCarron. Referee went back to incident after flagged by linesman. Same linesman ignored elbow by Kieran Hughes in build up to Monaghan penalty.  Referee made poor calls for both teams.  Monaghan by far the better team and deserved the win. Monaghan need to close out games better have been caught in a few games league and championship.  McCarron was class. Darren Hughes had a great game in midfield

[Gael85]

All that money spent on coaching over the last 10 years. Have they nobody coming through ?

They reached U20 All-Ireland finals in 2019, 2020 they should have a handful of those players coming through now however are struggling to do so under their poor Dessie Farrell management setup.

Them u20s lads will be 23/24 next year and will see more game time next year. A good few got run in O'Byrne Cup and League.

[Gael85]

Well done to the 300 Dublin fans who made the very, very long trip to Clones today. You really took over the town!

I didn't see you up there.  A lot more than that. Would have been a lot more but for a full schedule of juvenile and adult hurling was played yesterday morning/afternoon but I'm sure he knew that before trolling .

[Main Street]

Their "big" players were so bad yesterday, Kilkenny dreadful

Kilkenny was one of their shining light when the rest of the team was playing poorly but the last few games he has been poor when he should be in his prime. Fenton has been poor all League.

Fitzsimmons was cleaned out yesterday by Jack McCarron whilst Cooper and McCarthy looked their age. McCarthy has got crankier over the last year or so as his powers wane and a bit like Michael Murphy for Donegal it is sad to see once great players reduced to continual bouts of ill discipline.

The ref was overly fussy in that game, a player did not have to do much if anything to get booked or penalised so who knows what McCarthy did to get his 2nd yellow.

McCarthy second yellow was for late foul on McCarron. Referee went back to incident after flagged by linesman. Same linesman ignored elbow by Kieran Hughes in build up to Monaghan penalty.  Referee made poor calls for both teams.  Monaghan by far the better team and deserved the win. Monaghan need to close out games better have been caught in a few games league and championship.  McCarron was class. Darren Hughes had a great game in midfield

McCarthy's 2nd yellow  looked to be for an off the ball incident, he got booked  along with Colin Walshe.

[seafoid]

AC/DC were able to replace older team members, maintain quality levels and keep the show on the road.
I don't know why the Dubs can't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2AC41dglnM

[Gael85]

Their "big" players were so bad yesterday, Kilkenny dreadful

Kilkenny was one of their shining light when the rest of the team was playing poorly but the last few games he has been poor when he should be in his prime. Fenton has been poor all League.

Fitzsimmons was cleaned out yesterday by Jack McCarron whilst Cooper and McCarthy looked their age. McCarthy has got crankier over the last year or so as his powers wane and a bit like Michael Murphy for Donegal it is sad to see once great players reduced to continual bouts of ill discipline.

The ref was overly fussy in that game, a player did not have to do much if anything to get booked or penalised so who knows what McCarthy did to get his 2nd yellow.

McCarthy second yellow was for late foul on McCarron. Referee went back to incident after flagged by linesman. Same linesman ignored elbow by Kieran Hughes in build up to Monaghan penalty.  Referee made poor calls for both teams.  Monaghan by far the better team and deserved the win. Monaghan need to close out games better have been caught in a few games league and championship.  McCarron was class. Darren Hughes had a great game in midfield

McCarthy's 2nd yellow  looked to be for an off the ball incident, he got booked  along with Colin Walshe.

No Walshe booking was for foul on player running through, can't remember who but wasn't McCarthy.  I saw James collide with McCarron but action wasn't taken until Walshe booked .

[Captain Obvious]

All that money spent on coaching over the last 10 years. Have they nobody coming through ?

They reached U20 All-Ireland finals in 2019, 2020 they should have a handful of those players coming through now however are struggling to do so under their poor Dessie Farrell management setup.

Them u20s lads will be 23/24 next year and will see more game time next year. A good few got run in O'Byrne Cup and League.

How many of them has established themselves as senior county players? Archer looked the real deal at U20 level and for whatever reason hasn't made the step up.  Costello,Mannion,Fenton,Kilkenny,J McCaffrey etc were all standing out in their early 20s on the senior team or be in a different environment and under a better management team.

[Gael85]

All that money spent on coaching over the last 10 years. Have they nobody coming through ?

They reached U20 All-Ireland finals in 2019, 2020 they should have a handful of those players coming through now however are struggling to do so under their poor Dessie Farrell management setup.

Them u20s lads will be 23/24 next year and will see more game time next year. A good few got run in O'Byrne Cup and League.

How many of them has established themselves as senior county players? Archer looked the real deal at U20 level and for whatever reason hasn't made the step up.  Costello,Mannion,Fenton,Kilkenny,J McCaffrey etc were all standing out in their early 20s on the senior team or be in a different environment and under a better management team.

Peadar O'Cofaigh Byrne only player to have got championship time and he missed the league with injury.  Lorcan O'Dell,  Ross McGarry and Brian O'Leary got a couple chances in league but probably too early for them. Archer has long way to go, doesn't have the work rate.   The lads you mentioned you were part of the greatest Dublin minor team of 2011 even though lost to Tipp. 9/10 played prominent roles in 6 in a row. Fenton was injured at minor but came through on 21 team in 2014.

[Hound]

All that money spent on coaching over the last 10 years. Have they nobody coming through ?

They reached U20 All-Ireland finals in 2019, 2020 they should have a handful of those players coming through now however are struggling to do so under their poor Dessie Farrell management setup.

Them u20s lads will be 23/24 next year and will see more game time next year. A good few got run in O'Byrne Cup and League.

How many of them has established themselves as senior county players? Archer looked the real deal at U20 level and for whatever reason hasn't made the step up.  Costello,Mannion,Fenton,Kilkenny,J McCaffrey etc were all standing out in their early 20s on the senior team or be in a different environment and under a better management team.

Peadar O'Cofaigh Byrne only player to have got championship team and he missed the league with injury.  Lorcan O'Dell,  Ross McGarry and Brian O'Leary got a couple chances in league but probably too early for them. Archer has long way to go, doesn't have the work rate.   The lads you mentioned you were part of the greatest Dublin minor team of 2011 even though lost to Tipp. 9/10 played prominent roles in 6 in a row. Fenton was injured at minor but through on 21 team in 2014.

We have no young up and coming forward anywhere near Con or Mannion, but for me Archer is the young forward with the most talent. Like any young forward, can't predict with certainty how he'll do at senior intercounty. I think the workrate comment is nonsense. As if a player is going to play with the Dubs and not work!  Unfortunately he only got to play in one game in the league and did his hammer in the very next training session which ruled him out of the rest of the league, so with Con and Paddy Small returning I don't him seeing much time this year.

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