Where now for Tyrone?

Started by bennydorano, August 27, 2017, 07:25:02 PM

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BennyHarp

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Quote from: From the Bunker on September 03, 2018, 10:36:04 PM
So where to now?

Probably time for Mickey to call it a day?

Last two seasons we have reached an All Ireland semi final, and then the final. Each time beaten by a team regarded by many as the best ever en route to completing 4 in a row. Jesus, you Mayo lads must have high expectations of Tyrone if you deem this as failure. It's got the Offaly 1982 formline written all over it.... ;)
That was never a square ball!!

omaghjoe

Why would he do that after taking his team to within a whisker of his 4th ai? ...Which will certainly be picked up next year?

NotedObserver

It wont be, though Tyrone wont beat the Dubs for again with him in charge.

From the Bunker

Mickey's time has gone!

Time for new faces and new ideas.

He has hogged this gig for too long.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: From the Bunker on September 03, 2018, 11:05:51 PM
Mickey's time has gone!

Time for new faces and new ideas.

He has hogged this gig for too long.

Some won't realise how good Harte was with Tyrone until he's gone.

balladmaker

QuoteSome won't realise how good Harte was with Tyrone until he's gone.

+1 ... I wish Armagh would have had Micky during the 2000 - 2005 era.

From the Bunker

Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 03, 2018, 11:23:22 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 03, 2018, 11:05:51 PM
Mickey's time has gone!

Time for new faces and new ideas.

He has hogged this gig for too long.

Some won't realise how good Harte was with Tyrone until he's gone.

No doubt, but he's had no big weight win in nearly 10 years now. He has consistently kept Tyrone good without making them great.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: From the Bunker on September 04, 2018, 12:06:54 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 03, 2018, 11:23:22 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 03, 2018, 11:05:51 PM
Mickey's time has gone!

Time for new faces and new ideas.

He has hogged this gig for too long.

Some won't realise how good Harte was with Tyrone until he's gone.

No doubt, but he's had no big weight win in nearly 10 years now. He has consistently kept Tyrone good without making them great.
Doing that has been great and without him they could have became average or poor especially the last 10 years when player quality wise they weren't a patch on their All Ireland winning teams.


imtommygunn

Quote from: omaghjoe on September 03, 2018, 10:40:35 PM
Why would he do that after taking his team to within a whisker of his 4th ai? ...Which will certainly be picked up next year?

Within a whisker?? Did i watch the wrong game?

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: From the Bunker on September 04, 2018, 12:06:54 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 03, 2018, 11:23:22 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 03, 2018, 11:05:51 PM
Mickey's time has gone!

Time for new faces and new ideas.

He has hogged this gig for too long.

Some won't realise how good Harte was with Tyrone until he's gone.

No doubt, but he's had no big weight win in nearly 10 years now. He has consistently kept Tyrone good without making them great.
Is that not an achievement in itself?

I think most Tyrone fans would consider making tbe final a successful season.

Under Lights

We actually lost three times this championship lads.

BennyHarp

Quote from: Under Lights on September 04, 2018, 08:37:53 AM
We actually lost three times this championship lads.

But only failed to beat 1 team. A team many would describe as the best in a generation.
That was never a square ball!!

Jinxy

Forget about getting anywhere near an All-Ireland win in the next two years.
That doesn't mean you won't make a final again, it just means that you can't beat this Dublin team, with this Tyrone team.
So, is it better to bring someone in who can rip the thing up and start again?
I'm not so sure, because I remember what happened in Meath after Sean Boylan left.
Sometimes there can be a perception that if you're just falling short, it's the managers fault.
The alternative hypothesis is that without that manager you wouldn't even reach those heights.
I just can't see Tyrone beating Dublin without massive changes in personnel around the middle third of the field and to be honest, Tyrone football doesn't seem to produce the type of animal you need in there.
That's where you need to go to war with the Dubs.
I think that all this talk of forward play is missing the bigger picture here.
Mayo have shown the way to get at Dublin.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

RedHand88

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 04, 2018, 08:00:00 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 04, 2018, 12:06:54 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 03, 2018, 11:23:22 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 03, 2018, 11:05:51 PM
Mickey's time has gone!

Time for new faces and new ideas.

He has hogged this gig for too long.

Some won't realise how good Harte was with Tyrone until he's gone.

No doubt, but he's had no big weight win in nearly 10 years now. He has consistently kept Tyrone good without making them great.
Is that not an achievement in itself?

I think most Tyrone fans would consider making tbe final a successful season.

I would say it's been a successful season. Would have liked another Ulster title obviously but we've had a few of those in recent years and at least we put the Monaghan issue right at the end of the year. Would Tyrone have won on Sunday with any other manager and if so, how?

seafoid

Quote from: Jinxy on September 04, 2018, 08:50:48 AM
Forget about getting anywhere near an All-Ireland win in the next two years.
That doesn't mean you won't make a final again, it just means that you can't beat this Dublin team, with this Tyrone team.
So, is it better to bring someone in who can rip the thing up and start again?
I'm not so sure, because I remember what happened in Meath after Sean Boylan left.
Sometimes there can be a perception that if you're just falling short, it's the managers fault.
The alternative hypothesis is that without that manager you wouldn't even reach those heights.
I just can't see Tyrone beating Dublin without massive changes in personnel around the middle third of the field and to be honest, Tyrone football doesn't seem to produce the type of animal you need in there.
That's where you need to go to war with the Dubs.
I think that all this talk of forward play is missing the bigger picture here.
Mayo have shown the way to get at Dublin.
Jim McGuinness might keep Tyrone competitive longer but this is not really a Tyrone issue
because it applies to all the other counties. The GAA all Ireland football championship is supposed to be a competition. At the moment it is not. It is a procession.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU