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How Dublin escaped the mini-melee and the final melee after the goal in extra time with a single yellow card is bizarre.

Nothing new in that

How many "card" offenses did James McCarthy commit last year before he was finally given a yellow?

A referee can be bad for both sides, but when the biggest decisions seem to all go one way-that's what upsets people

Still completely confused about what you're saying


Are you saying that I'm xenophobic for even posting about it?

(Even though my position is in line with 59% of people polled by the Irish times)



I leave it here:

Do people have legitimate reasons (not fueled by Xenophoba or Racism) to be angry about how the government has handled this crisis?

I'm talking about you. Not other people. Other people might post about all the reasons that affect health waiting lists as well as the impact of immigration. However if they ignore all other reasons and solely focus on immigration as the cause then I'd tend to think they're a bit xenophobic as well.

Hope that's clear.

So what you're saying is that people can have legitimate concerns about immigration policies-that aren't based on racism or xenophobia

(But me posting about them is racist/xenophobic because I don't post about other things)

Interesting!

 I don't really want to explain it for the 3rd time. Especially as we both know that you understand exactly what I'm saying.

Its the oldest trick in the book

Suppress dissenting points of view by accusing people of being racist

Yeah you don't post about other things. Even other things that have an infinitely bigger impact on the public purse than immigration. Yet, still all you want to talk about is immigration. Why is that?

How do you know what I post on other
Forums ?

Still completely confused about what you're saying


Are you saying that I'm xenophobic for even posting about it?

(Even though my position is in line with 59% of people polled by the Irish times)



I leave it here:

Do people have legitimate reasons (not fueled by Xenophoba or Racism) to be angry about how the government has handled this crisis?

I think Michael Ring would be fairly indicative of FG thinking in Mayo and he doesn't lambaste immigrants.
https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22374985/

Who is lambasting immigrants?  Certainly not me

I'm lambasting the governments handling of the crisis by either not enforcing existing law or offering welfare payments to Ukrainians that seem to be crazy compared to EU averages

Still completely confused about what you're saying


Are you saying that I'm xenophobic for even posting about it?

(Even though my position is in line with 59% of people polled by the Irish times)



I leave it here:

Do people have legitimate reasons (not fueled by Xenophoba or Racism) to be angry about how the government has handled this crisis?

I'm talking about you. Not other people. Other people might post about all the reasons that affect health waiting lists as well as the impact of immigration. However if they ignore all other reasons and solely focus on immigration as the cause then I'd tend to think they're a bit xenophobic as well.

Hope that's clear.

So what you're saying is that people can have legitimate concerns about immigration policies-that aren't based on racism or xenophobia

(But me posting about them is racist/xenophobic because I don't post about other things)

Interesting!

Still completely confused about what you're saying


Are you saying that I'm xenophobic for even posting about it?

(Even though my position is in line with 59% of people polled by the Irish times)



I leave it here:

Do people have legitimate reasons (not fueled by Xenophoba or Racism) to be angry about how the government has handled this crisis?

Great-we've reached a consensus then

So if a person is upset about the financial cost of the Ukrainians to the Irish taxpayer, they are neither racist nor xenophobic

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........we just happen to be discussing immigration and in my opinion people have legitimate beefs with the government over how they've handled this crisis

Whether it's the non
enforcement of our own laws, or suddenly finding hundreds of millions of Euros in funding for refugees while basic services for the population at large are seriously underfunded

Do you think they have handled it properly?

It's obvious from your posts your more motivated by the impact of immigration than others aspects that affect healthcare and service provision. I'd say 80% + of your posts are on immigration. If it's just because of the impact immigration has on other services then why aren't you as vocal about the other major factors?

Can you understand why it looks like racism?

Refresh my memory-exact what race do Ukrainians (and Georgians) belong to?

I don't believe they're the only ones that have you hot and bothered. But I'm quite happy to change the word to xenophobic if you prefer?

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........we just happen to be discussing immigration and in my opinion people have legitimate beefs with the government over how they've handled this crisis

Whether it's the non
enforcement of our own laws, or suddenly finding hundreds of millions of Euros in funding for refugees while basic services for the population at large are seriously underfunded

Do you think they have handled it properly?

It's obvious from your posts your more motivated by the impact of immigration than others aspects that affect healthcare and service provision. I'd say 80% + of your posts are on immigration. If it's just because of the impact immigration has on other services then why aren't you as vocal about the other major factors?

Can you understand why it looks like racism?

Refresh my memory-exact what race do Ukrainians (and Georgians) belong to?

I don't believe they're the only ones that have you hot and bothered. But I'm quite happy to change the word to xenophobic if you prefer?

So is it xenophobic for people to support the governments policy of
"bringing Ireland in line with other EU countries" when it comes to welfare payments to Ukrainians?

https://www.barrons.com/amp/news/ireland-to-cut-financial-support-for-ukrainian-refugees-1f1b1c7d#

Who claimed that?

You did. Unless I misunderstood you

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........we just happen to be discussing immigration and in my opinion people have legitimate beefs with the government over how they've handled this crisis

Whether it's the non
enforcement of our own laws, or suddenly finding hundreds of millions of Euros in funding for refugees while basic services for the population at large are seriously underfunded

Do you think they have handled it properly?

It's obvious from your posts your more motivated by the impact of immigration than others aspects that affect healthcare and service provision. I'd say 80% + of your posts are on immigration. If it's just because of the impact immigration has on other services then why aren't you as vocal about the other major factors?

Can you understand why it looks like racism?

Refresh my memory-exact what race do Ukrainians (and Georgians) belong to?

I don't believe they're the only ones that have you hot and bothered. But I'm quite happy to change the word to xenophobic if you prefer?

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........we just happen to be discussing immigration and in my opinion people have legitimate beefs with the government over how they've handled this crisis

Whether it's the non
enforcement of our own laws, or suddenly finding hundreds of millions of Euros in funding for refugees while basic services for the population at large are seriously underfunded

Do you think they have handled it properly?

It's obvious from your posts your more motivated by the impact of immigration than others aspects that affect healthcare and service provision. I'd say 80% + of your posts are on immigration. If it's just because of the impact immigration has on other services then why aren't you as vocal about the other major factors?

Can you understand why it looks like racism?

Refresh my memory-exact what race do Ukrainians (and Georgians) belong to?

I don't believe they're the only ones that have you hot and bothered. But I'm quite happy to change the word to xenophobic if you prefer?

So is it xenophobic for people to support the governments policy of
"bringing Ireland in line with other EU countries" when it comes to welfare payments to Ukrainians?

https://www.barrons.com/amp/news/ireland-to-cut-financial-support-for-ukrainian-refugees-1f1b1c7d#

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........we just happen to be discussing immigration and in my opinion people have legitimate beefs with the government over how they've handled this crisis

Whether it's the non
enforcement of our own laws, or suddenly finding hundreds of millions of Euros in funding for refugees while basic services for the population at large are seriously underfunded

Do you think they have handled it properly?

It's obvious from your posts your more motivated by the impact of immigration than others aspects that affect healthcare and service provision. I'd say 80% + of your posts are on immigration. If it's just because of the impact immigration has on other services then why aren't you as vocal about the other major factors?

Can you understand why it looks like racism?

Refresh my memory-exact what race do Ukrainians (and Georgians) belong to?

Would Aontu be considered far right?

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.

Who said I'm not agitated about all these other things........we just happen to be discussing immigration and in my opinion people have legitimate beefs with the government over how they've handled this crisis

Whether it's the non
enforcement of our own laws, or suddenly finding hundreds of millions of Euros in funding for refugees while basic services for the population at large are seriously underfunded

Do you think they have handled it properly?

I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 

So if I understand you correctly, in your view, ALL concerns regarding immigration are driven by either racism or stupidity (or both)?

And if the answer is yes-do you support open borders?

All concerns? Not in the slightest. But anyone who regards it as a priority or anything close to one, or who spends more time obsessing about it than about they do about health, education, taxation etc...Well you have to question their motivation.


After all, other than racism or stupidity, why would anyone be angry enough to take to the streets, or to base their voting decisions in protest about immigration ahead of in protest about the state of the health service, or housing crisis, or tax evasion by the super wealthy etc etc etc?

Hear hear... is a very useful distraction used by FG and Tories from those other more pressing issues

Seeing millions being spent on housing refugees etc is bound to (rightly or wrongly) piss people off when they can see the state of things like the roads, hospitals, schools etc. low hanging fruit for a protest vote.

Screaming far right doesn't help.

Hospitals have been a shambles long before a refugee was about the place. If you blame hospital issues on refugees it's as simple as this, you are a racist.

And we were told that there was no money to fix hospitals..........and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

There's towns and villages that don't have a single Guard-and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

38000 people have been waiting for more than 18 months for a scan yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

10,000 disabled kids have been waiting for more than a year to get an appt to see a specialist and yet we somehow have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

People are rightly outraged and it has shag all to do with racism

Thanks for demonstrating my point for me. Not once there did you reference, for example, tax evasion by the super wealthy. Why aren't you vehemently posting your outrage about how maybe those "10,000 disabled kids" might have a better chance if the government would crack down on tax evasion? The amount that would save would dwarf what is spent on immigrants. Think of the billions that would be available to improve the the health service etc.

But no..

It's ALL the fault of those bloody immigrants!!!!


Like I keep saying. It's either stupidity, or racism and stupidity.

Maybe the government should just enforce ALL laws-(including both immigration and tax law)

[billions]

So if I understand you correctly, in your view, ALL concerns regarding immigration are driven by either racism or stupidity (or both)?

And if the answer is yes-do you support open borders?

All concerns? Not in the slightest. But anyone who regards it as a priority or anything close to one, or who spends more time obsessing about it than about they do about health, education, taxation etc...Well you have to question their motivation.


After all, other than racism or stupidity, why would anyone be angry enough to take to the streets, or to base their voting decisions in protest about immigration ahead of in protest about the state of the health service, or housing crisis, or tax evasion by the super wealthy etc etc etc?

Hear hear... is a very useful distraction used by FG and Tories from those other more pressing issues

Seeing millions being spent on housing refugees etc is bound to (rightly or wrongly) piss people off when they can see the state of things like the roads, hospitals, schools etc. low hanging fruit for a protest vote.

Screaming far right doesn't help.

Hospitals have been a shambles long before a refugee was about the place. If you blame hospital issues on refugees it's as simple as this, you are a racist.

And we were told that there was no money to fix hospitals..........and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

There's towns and villages that don't have a single Guard-and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

38000 people have been waiting for more than 18 months for a scan yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

10,000 disabled kids have been waiting for more than a year to get an appt to see a specialist and yet we somehow have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

People are rightly outraged and it has shag all to do with racism

I hear it's closer to trillions. You forgot to shoehorn the homeless in there. You've a huge heart caring so deeply about so so many

He keeps saying "We" so maybe he's referring to Biden's America?

Keep her lit Itchy

The day of reckoning is coming and all those shouting about "the far right" and accusing people of "racism" is going to backfire on you all