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Contrary to popular belief, the Connacht final hasn't been played yet..

May the best team win

you must have had the new thread ready at half time, surely

can you not just stay off the internet for a few hours and enjoy the win. go talk to some real people

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 18, 2017, 07:46:16 PM
you must have had the new thread ready at half time, surely

can you not just stay off the internet for a few hours and enjoy the win. go talk to some real people

How to look like an arse in one easy step.

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 18, 2017, 07:46:16 PM
you must have had the new thread ready at half time, surely

can you not just stay off the internet for a few hours and enjoy the win. go talk to some real people

Don't worry he'll be gone for a week at least when McStay and co. get their arses handed to them in Salthill.

I'd say we'll be bet out the gate - awful defence, no midfield and soft oul forwards.

It would be disappointing not to win Connacht having beaten the best team in the province already but Galway needn't go in overconfident to this match as bad things usually happen for them when they do, see the Tipperary Q-final result from last year along with a myriad of poor league results as match favourites over the last few years.

The weather conditions couldn't be any worse than they were last year for the drawn game which was a poor spectacle. You would also have to assume that Roscommon will show up and perform a lot better on the 9th July as opposed to their pathetic effort in the replayed final last year, I didn't see a huge amount of their league games but it would seem that they sacrificed league competitiveness to be at peak condition for the championship matches. Galway have improved a bit in terms of squad options and as a team in general from last year as well.

Given all that a decent match could be in prospect.

As the "Reach Connacht Final" part of our 3 year plan has been achieved we may not take this game all that seriously at all.
We might just send the development squad and keep the first 15 in reserve for the Round 4 game (against Donegal or Rhubarbs most likely).

Quote from: Rossfan on June 20, 2017, 09:14:35 PM
As the "Reach Connacht Final" part of our 3 year plan has been achieved we may not take this game all that seriously at all.
We might just send the development squad and keep the first 15 in reserve for the Round 4 game (against Donegal or Rhubarbs most likely).

The development panel would contain about half our starters anyways.

If Donegal make it as far as R4 they'll be doing very well indeed.

Roscommon won't fear Galway.

Quote from: Jinxy on June 20, 2017, 10:11:02 PM
Roscommon won't fear Galway.

It''s closer to begrudgery.

Quote from: seafoid on June 20, 2017, 10:40:15 PM

Quote from: Jinxy on June 20, 2017, 10:11:02 PM
Roscommon won't fear Galway.

It''s closer to begrudgery.

Sure this is a match-up of two counties that used to be good back in the 70s and 80s..

Quote from: seafoid on June 20, 2017, 10:40:15 PM

Quote from: Jinxy on June 20, 2017, 10:11:02 PM
Roscommon won't fear Galway.

It''s closer to begrudgery.

At least we have nicer accents and jerseys and bus plus we never let the Normans take our land.

It's a Connacht final. Expect the unexpected. Galway arent as good as they think. Ross aren't as bad as they think. If Ross forwards had shown some guts in the last ten minutes in 2016 they would have won ad Galway would have avoided another Croke Park embarassment

Quote from: Avondhu star on June 21, 2017, 08:38:11 AM
It's a Connacht final. Expect the unexpected. Galway arent as good as they think. Ross aren't as bad as they think. If Ross forwards had shown some guts in the last ten minutes in 2016 they would have won ad Galway would have avoided another Croke Park embarassment

Don't be sneery. All counties, even Dublin and Kerry included, have had their bad days in Croker. Ros' didn't win last year because they weren't good enough and didn't believe in themselves enough, common traits to all losing teams.

Don't think there's anyone in Galway who think we're as good as we think we are - if you can make sense outta that.

You'd have to expect a severe backlash from the Rossies, last years replay was their biggest embarrassment since the Gay Referendum.

On a different note, complete joke that the provincial losers get to join the qualifiers at R4. They should join at R3 and have the R3 winners facing off in R4

Quote from: Manning18 on June 21, 2017, 11:49:40 AM
You'd have to expect a severe backlash from the Rossies, last years replay was their biggest embarrassment since the Gay Referendum.

On a different note, complete joke that the provincial losers get to join the qualifiers at R4. They should join at R3 and have the R3 winners facing off in R4

System is stacked enough as it is against provincial final losers. That would be a mental change tbh.

Quote from: Rossfan on June 21, 2017, 01:24:32 AM

Quote from: seafoid on June 20, 2017, 10:40:15 PM

Quote from: Jinxy on June 20, 2017, 10:11:02 PM
Roscommon won't fear Galway.

It''s closer to begrudgery.

At least we have nicer accents and jerseys and bus plus we never let the Normans take our land.

But there is no Gaeilge Shannonside

Only for Dúbhglás De hÍde ní bheadh aon Gaeilge in aon áit.

Lee Keegan in an interview, stated after galway match galway were much better than previous year,this time round mayo brought their A game for the 1st half anyway,the sending off did hamper their chances,but wind advantage should have saved them.roscommon are probably better in the forward division than mayo and prior to the drawn final last year, spillane stated if roscommon attacked the full back line they would win,roscommon problem was to get ball into them and I'm afraid nothing has changed there or has it? Anything can happen on the day a sending off,freak  goal but I would hope that if galway have improved as much as Mr Keegan has stated,it's a galway win.

Last two Galway v Roscommon Connacht finals went to replays. The replay date for this final is Sat 15th July and if that happens the loser of a replay will only have 6 days to recover before playing their round 4 tie and if they manage to win (stats against them) they will have to face a well rested Kerry in the last eight. Anyone else find this scheduling to be total nonsense?

Quote from: Syferus on June 21, 2017, 01:38:12 PM

Quote from: Manning18 on June 21, 2017, 11:49:40 AM
You'd have to expect a severe backlash from the Rossies, last years replay was their biggest embarrassment since the Gay Referendum.

On a different note, complete joke that the provincial losers get to join the qualifiers at R4. They should join at R3 and have the R3 winners facing off in R4

System is stacked enough as it is against provincial final losers. That would be a mental change tbh.

It's a total disgrace that Roscommon could beat Leitrim and get beat by Galway and still are one match away from a QF. Monaghan have to beat Fermanagh, Cavan, Down, lose against Tyrone then win a R4 game to reach the same spot. The Rossies have 'er handy.

Do you want the Provincials abolished then?

Quote from: omagh_gael on June 21, 2017, 03:47:03 PM

Quote from: Syferus on June 21, 2017, 01:38:12 PM

Quote from: Manning18 on June 21, 2017, 11:49:40 AM
You'd have to expect a severe backlash from the Rossies, last years replay was their biggest embarrassment since the Gay Referendum.

On a different note, complete joke that the provincial losers get to join the qualifiers at R4. They should join at R3 and have the R3 winners facing off in R4

System is stacked enough as it is against provincial final losers. That would be a mental change tbh.

It's a total disgrace that Roscommon could beat Leitrim and get beat by Galway and still are one match away from a QF. Monaghan have to beat Fermanagh, Cavan, Down, lose against Tyrone then win a R4 game to reach the same spot. The Rossies have 'er handy.

Ulster is shite lad. Ye beat the Donegal U21 team and suddenly eejits think ye'll not only give Dublin a game but beat them.

Quote from: omagh_gael on June 21, 2017, 03:47:03 PM

Quote from: Syferus on June 21, 2017, 01:38:12 PM

Quote from: Manning18 on June 21, 2017, 11:49:40 AM
You'd have to expect a severe backlash from the Rossies, last years replay was their biggest embarrassment since the Gay Referendum.

On a different note, complete joke that the provincial losers get to join the qualifiers at R4. They should join at R3 and have the R3 winners facing off in R4

System is stacked enough as it is against provincial final losers. That would be a mental change tbh.

It's a total disgrace that Roscommon could beat Leitrim and get beat by Galway and still are one match away from a QF. Monaghan have to beat Fermanagh, Cavan, Down, lose against Tyrone then win a R4 game to reach the same spot. The Rossies have 'er handy.

This year, yeah. Last year, we were first team out a week after our NFL semi-final loss to Kerry, travel to NY, played 5 games in Connacht (including the replay) and then 6 days to recover before we went out to Clare in last 12. However, Monaghan still only have to beat one Div 1 team to make Ulster final, and Cavan like us got relegated. Those games are better than playing challenge games, as we've been doing to teams like Wexford and Down. I would still put Mayo and Galway ahead of Tyrone, so still tougher to win Connacht.

Quote from: cornetto on June 21, 2017, 03:45:22 PM
Lee Keegan in an interview, stated after galway match galway were much better than previous year,this time round mayo brought their A game for the 1st half anyway,the sending off did hamper their chances,but wind advantage should have saved them.roscommon are probably better in the forward division than mayo and prior to the drawn final last year, spillane stated if roscommon attacked the full back line they would win,roscommon problem was to get ball into them and I'm afraid nothing has changed there or has it? Anything can happen on the day a sending off,freak  goal but I would hope that if galway have improved as much as Mr Keegan has stated,it's a galway win.

We have an entirely different midfield and keeper compared to last year Cornetto, but when RTE are calling Dara Murtagh out for setting up goals and the Indo gives MotM to Donie Smith (black carded in the 15th minute) I'm not surprised many haven't put the effort in to do some research, like looking at the teamsheet..

Nor was getting the ball even the issue last year.

Quote from: Syferus on June 21, 2017, 03:56:39 PM

Quote from: omagh_gael on June 21, 2017, 03:47:03 PM

Quote from: Syferus on June 21, 2017, 01:38:12 PM

Quote from: Manning18 on June 21, 2017, 11:49:40 AM
You'd have to expect a severe backlash from the Rossies, last years replay was their biggest embarrassment since the Gay Referendum.

On a different note, complete joke that the provincial losers get to join the qualifiers at R4. They should join at R3 and have the R3 winners facing off in R4

System is stacked enough as it is against provincial final losers. That would be a mental change tbh.

It's a total disgrace that Roscommon could beat Leitrim and get beat by Galway and still are one match away from a QF. Monaghan have to beat Fermanagh, Cavan, Down, lose against Tyrone then win a R4 game to reach the same spot. The Rossies have 'er handy.

Ulster is shite lad. Ye beat the Donegal U21 team and suddenly eejits think ye'll not only give Dublin a game but beat them.

Poor Roscommon. Y'is are just a play thing for Mayo and Galway. Must get irritating.

Quote from: Syferus on June 21, 2017, 03:56:39 PM

Quote from: omagh_gael on June 21, 2017, 03:47:03 PM

Quote from: Syferus on June 21, 2017, 01:38:12 PM

Quote from: Manning18 on June 21, 2017, 11:49:40 AM
You'd have to expect a severe backlash from the Rossies, last years replay was their biggest embarrassment since the Gay Referendum.

On a different note, complete joke that the provincial losers get to join the qualifiers at R4. They should join at R3 and have the R3 winners facing off in R4

System is stacked enough as it is against provincial final losers. That would be a mental change tbh.

It's a total disgrace that Roscommon could beat Leitrim and get beat by Galway and still are one match away from a QF. Monaghan have to beat Fermanagh, Cavan, Down, lose against Tyrone then win a R4 game to reach the same spot. The Rossies have 'er handy.

Ulster is shite lad. Ye beat the Donegal U21 team and suddenly eejits think ye'll not only give Dublin a game but beat them.

I believe Roscommon have been tossed out by Ulster sides in 4 of the past 5 Championships.

I believe it's also 16 or 17 years since Roscommon beat either Mayo or Galway in Championship football.

Just especially for Syferus I've decided to compile Roscommon's recent Championship record against Galway and Mayo:

2002 - 10 point loss to Galway
2003 - 4 point defeat to Galway
2004 - 10 point defeat to Mayo
2005 - 8 point defeat to Mayo
2006 - 5 point defeat to Galway
2008 - 16 point defeat to Galway
2009 -  20 point defeat to Mayo
2011 - 2 point defeat to Mayo
2012 - 14 point defeat to Galway
2013 - 12 point defeat to Mayo
2014 - 1 point defeat to Mayo
2016 - draw to Galway and 11 point defeat to Galway

That's 13 games without a win and an aggregate scoring deficit of -113. I wouldn't be surprised if Roscommon add to that.

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Quote from: Syferus on June 21, 2017, 03:56:39 PM

Quote from: omagh_gael on June 21, 2017, 03:47:03 PM

Quote from: Syferus on June 21, 2017, 01:38:12 PM

Quote from: Manning18 on June 21, 2017, 11:49:40 AM
You'd have to expect a severe backlash from the Rossies, last years replay was their biggest embarrassment since the Gay Referendum.

On a different note, complete joke that the provincial losers get to join the qualifiers at R4. They should join at R3 and have the R3 winners facing off in R4

System is stacked enough as it is against provincial final losers. That would be a mental change tbh.

It's a total disgrace that Roscommon could beat Leitrim and get beat by Galway and still are one match away from a QF. Monaghan have to beat Fermanagh, Cavan, Down, lose against Tyrone then win a R4 game to reach the same spot. The Rossies have 'er handy.

Ulster is shite lad. Ye beat the Donegal U21 team and suddenly eejits think ye'll not only give Dublin a game but beat them.

I believe Roscommon have been tossed out by Ulster sides in 4 of the past 5 Championships.

True. But in the last 4 or 5 years, outside province, Roscommon have only been able to knock out Ulster sides - Cavan a few times, and Armagh.

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I believe it's also 16 or 17 years since Roscommon beat either Mayo or Galway in Championship football.

Beat both in 2001, previous to that in 90 and 91. High time we altered that. I believe the current group of players, right now a very young team,  have enough talent to change that.

Quote from: weareros on June 21, 2017, 08:17:51 PM

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on June 21, 2017, 07:35:11 PM

Quote from: Syferus on June 21, 2017, 03:56:39 PM

Quote from: omagh_gael on June 21, 2017, 03:47:03 PM

Quote from: Syferus on June 21, 2017, 01:38:12 PM

Quote from: Manning18 on June 21, 2017, 11:49:40 AM
You'd have to expect a severe backlash from the Rossies, last years replay was their biggest embarrassment since the Gay Referendum.

On a different note, complete joke that the provincial losers get to join the qualifiers at R4. They should join at R3 and have the R3 winners facing off in R4

System is stacked enough as it is against provincial final losers. That would be a mental change tbh.

It's a total disgrace that Roscommon could beat Leitrim and get beat by Galway and still are one match away from a QF. Monaghan have to beat Fermanagh, Cavan, Down, lose against Tyrone then win a R4 game to reach the same spot. The Rossies have 'er handy.

Ulster is shite lad. Ye beat the Donegal U21 team and suddenly eejits think ye'll not only give Dublin a game but beat them.

I believe Roscommon have been tossed out by Ulster sides in 4 of the past 5 Championships.

True. But in the last 4 or 5 years, outside province, Roscommon have only been able to knock out Ulster sides - Cavan a few times, and Armagh.

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I believe it's also 16 or 17 years since Roscommon beat either Mayo or Galway in Championship football.

Beat both in 2001, previous to that in 90 and 91. High time we altered that. I believe the current group of players, right now a very young team,  have enough talent to change that.

What is interesting about the batch of Roscommon underage teams that had moderate to decent success over the past 7/8 years is how many of them have turned out to be crocks?

Were they just thrown into senior too early and flogged? They've been hyped up quite a bit over the last few years and I think there has been a very soft core in them, I think they believe a lot of the hype and when things tend to go bad for them, they fold rather than dig in and turn it around. The Clare game being a prime example.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 21, 2017, 03:46:56 PM
Last two Galway v Roscommon Connacht finals went to replays. The replay date for this final is Sat 15th July and if that happens the loser of a replay will only have 6 days to recover before playing their round 4 tie and if they manage to win (stats against them) they will have to face a well rested Kerry in the last eight. Anyone else find this scheduling to be total nonsense?

What do you suggest instead Cunny?

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on June 21, 2017, 08:27:41 PM
What is interesting about the batch of Roscommon underage teams that had moderate to decent success over the past 7/8 years is how many of them have turned out to be crocks

Were they just thrown into senior too early and flogged?

Yes. The lads on that minor winning team of 2006 were brought into senior football very quickly. You had players like David O'Gara, David Keenan and Conor Devanney (only 1 of 2 survivors) playing senior under John Maughan in the league of 2008, shipping big hammerings in the latter half of that league. They were also brought into very dodgy senior setups. Maughan had got rid of a lot of the established players. There hadn't been any great stability until Fergal O'Donnell and later Evans came in and in fairness, a lot of those players were responsible for bringing Roscommon from Div 4 to Div 1 within 5 years.

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They've been hyped up quite a bit over the last few years and I think there has been a very soft core in them, I think they believe a lot of the hype and when things tend to go bad for them, they fold rather than dig in and turn it around. The Clare game being a prime example.

Many have been plagued with injuries. I think this Connacht final is the first time you'll see some of them fully fit since their underage days. I have a feeling that RTE and some of the papers may even get their names right after the match. Maybe the odd poster has hyped them up but in general, I don't see any of that. There was talk about the performances in the league last year but everyone knew by time time Mayo pushed us around in the lakes of Hyde Park, and Kerry hammered us in the league semi-final that those performances were only because we had started training earlier. Reality has now set in and we'll go into the final as underdogs. Galway and Tyrone now are the teams being talked up as the potential to dislodge the top 3: Dublin/Mayo/Kerry. And in fairness, both have served up the two best performances of the championship so far.

Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 21, 2017, 08:50:46 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 21, 2017, 03:46:56 PM
Last two Galway v Roscommon Connacht finals went to replays. The replay date for this final is Sat 15th July and if that happens the loser of a replay will only have 6 days to recover before playing their round 4 tie and if they manage to win (stats against them) they will have to face a well rested Kerry in the last eight. Anyone else find this scheduling to be total nonsense?

What do you suggest instead Cunny?

One thing i would suggest is that Connacht final loser has at least two weeks to prepare for their qualifier game even if the final goes to a replay. 

Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 21, 2017, 08:59:39 PM

Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 21, 2017, 08:50:46 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 21, 2017, 03:46:56 PM
Last two Galway v Roscommon Connacht finals went to replays. The replay date for this final is Sat 15th July and if that happens the loser of a replay will only have 6 days to recover before playing their round 4 tie and if they manage to win (stats against them) they will have to face a well rested Kerry in the last eight. Anyone else find this scheduling to be total nonsense?

What do you suggest instead Cunny?

One thing i would suggest is that Connacht final loser has at least two weeks to prepare for their qualifier game even if the final goes to a replay.

Don't worry Cunny, we'll get rid of Galway in 70 this year so they have a fair shot at R4.

The Bomber's unhealthy obsession with Ros has returned.
Go back to your doctor and get some tablets quick.

Quote from: Rossfan on June 21, 2017, 09:15:52 PM
The Bomber's unhealthy obsession with Ros has returned.
Go back to your doctor and get some tablets quick.

Who??

Quote from: Rossfan on June 21, 2017, 09:15:52 PM
The Bomber's unhealthy obsession with Ros has returned.
Go back to your doctor and get some tablets quick.

Unhealthy?

Obsession?

I'm just reporting facts, guy. If they rile you perhaps you should seek the tablets, maybe mind-altering ones.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 21, 2017, 08:59:39 PM

Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 21, 2017, 08:50:46 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 21, 2017, 03:46:56 PM
Last two Galway v Roscommon Connacht finals went to replays. The replay date for this final is Sat 15th July and if that happens the loser of a replay will only have 6 days to recover before playing their round 4 tie and if they manage to win (stats against them) they will have to face a well rested Kerry in the last eight. Anyone else find this scheduling to be total nonsense?

What do you suggest instead Cunny?

One thing i would suggest is that Connacht final loser has at least two weeks to prepare for their qualifier game even if the final goes to a replay.

But how, Cunny? There are only so many weekends in the summer. If teams don't win games fixtures will backlog. It's as inevitable as day following night.

In the Qualifiers earlier iterations I think the fixture-makers were blind-sided by the difference loss of recovery-time made, but right now it seems to me the gaps are as good as can be hoped for, not least with the introduction of A- and B- streams in the qualifiers. It's to allow for as long a gap as is feasible that they were introduced. But if teams are drawing and not winning games, there will be consequences. There are only so many weekends in the summer, as I say.

Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 21, 2017, 09:26:38 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 21, 2017, 08:59:39 PM

Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 21, 2017, 08:50:46 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 21, 2017, 03:46:56 PM
Last two Galway v Roscommon Connacht finals went to replays. The replay date for this final is Sat 15th July and if that happens the loser of a replay will only have 6 days to recover before playing their round 4 tie and if they manage to win (stats against them) they will have to face a well rested Kerry in the last eight. Anyone else find this scheduling to be total nonsense?

What do you suggest instead Cunny?

One thing i would suggest is that Connacht final loser has at least two weeks to prepare for their qualifier game even if the final goes to a replay.

But how, Cunny? There are only so many weekends in the summer. If teams don't win games fixtures will backlog. It's as inevitable as day following night.

In the Qualifiers earlier iterations I think the fixture-makers were blind-sided by the difference loss of recovery-time made, but right now it seems to me the gaps are as good as can be hoped for, not least with the introduction of A- and B- streams in the qualifiers. It's to allow for as long a gap as is feasible that they were introduced. But if teams are drawing and not winning games, there will be consequences. There are only so many weekends in the summer, as I say.

How? well better scheduling of fixtures for example play the Connacht final on July 2nd instead of July 9th. Galway played in a league final and still had to wait for 8 weeks i think to play their first championship game while Roscommon had a 11 week wait. Only so many weekends in the summer you say yet the two finalist had many weekends waiting around.

Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 21, 2017, 09:26:38 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 21, 2017, 08:59:39 PM

Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 21, 2017, 08:50:46 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 21, 2017, 03:46:56 PM
Last two Galway v Roscommon Connacht finals went to replays. The replay date for this final is Sat 15th July and if that happens the loser of a replay will only have 6 days to recover before playing their round 4 tie and if they manage to win (stats against them) they will have to face a well rested Kerry in the last eight. Anyone else find this scheduling to be total nonsense?

What do you suggest instead Cunny?

One thing i would suggest is that Connacht final loser has at least two weeks to prepare for their qualifier game even if the final goes to a replay.

But how, Cunny? There are only so many weekends in the summer. If teams don't win games fixtures will backlog. It's as inevitable as day following night.

In the Qualifiers earlier iterations I think the fixture-makers were blind-sided by the difference loss of recovery-time made, but right now it seems to me the gaps are as good as can be hoped for, not least with the introduction of A- and B- streams in the qualifiers. It's to allow for as long a gap as is feasible that they were introduced. But if teams are drawing and not winning games, there will be consequences. There are only so many weekends in the summer, as I say.

Get used to it because when the Super 8 kicks there will be a big rush to get rid of the no hopers

We'll be in the Super 8s in accordance with our (amended) 3 year plan. ;)

Quote from: Rossfan on June 22, 2017, 12:21:04 AM
We'll be in the Super 8s in accordance with our (amended) 3 year plan. ;)

We've been in the Super 8 the last two seasons.

Quote from: Rossfan on June 21, 2017, 09:15:52 PM
The Bomber's unhealthy obsession with Ros has returned.
Go back to your doctor and get some tablets quick.

Ah, for small mercies let us be truly grateful, O Lord. Amen.
At least the busturd has found another crowd to annoy and is giving Mayo a bit of a break.

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Quote from: Manning18 on June 21, 2017, 11:49:40 AM
You'd have to expect a severe backlash from the Rossies, last years replay was their biggest embarrassment since the Gay Referendum.

On a different note, complete joke that the provincial losers get to join the qualifiers at R4. They should join at R3 and have the R3 winners facing off in R4

System is stacked enough as it is against provincial final losers. That would be a mental change tbh.

It's a total disgrace that Roscommon could beat Leitrim and get beat by Galway and still are one match away from a QF. Monaghan have to beat Fermanagh, Cavan, Down, lose against Tyrone then win a R4 game to reach the same spot. The Rossies have 'er handy.

Ulster is shite lad. Ye beat the Donegal U21 team and suddenly eejits think ye'll not only give Dublin a game but beat them.

I believe Roscommon have been tossed out by Ulster sides in 4 of the past 5 Championships.

True. But in the last 4 or 5 years, outside province, Roscommon have only been able to knock out Ulster sides - Cavan a few times, and Armagh.

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I believe it's also 16 or 17 years since Roscommon beat either Mayo or Galway in Championship football.

Beat both in 2001, previous to that in 90 and 91. High time we altered that. I believe the current group of players, right now a very young team,  have enough talent to change that.

What is interesting about the batch of Roscommon underage teams that had moderate to decent success over the past 7/8 years is how many of them have turned out to be crocks?

Were they just thrown into senior too early and flogged? They've been hyped up quite a bit over the last few years and I think there has been a very soft core in them, I think they believe a lot of the hype and when things tend to go bad for them, they fold rather than dig in and turn it around. The Clare game being a prime example.

give us a few examples?

its the third level colleges who seem to be doing all the flogging. And not a word about it in the GAA when burnout is mentioned

Historically Ros win 1 out of every 5 titles with the Rhubarbs and Heron Chokers taking 2 each. So it's time for Shannonside to go mental again. Do it for Donie.

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Quote from: Manning18 on June 21, 2017, 11:49:40 AM
You'd have to expect a severe backlash from the Rossies, last years replay was their biggest embarrassment since the Gay Referendum.

On a different note, complete joke that the provincial losers get to join the qualifiers at R4. They should join at R3 and have the R3 winners facing off in R4

System is stacked enough as it is against provincial final losers. That would be a mental change tbh.

It's a total disgrace that Roscommon could beat Leitrim and get beat by Galway and still are one match away from a QF. Monaghan have to beat Fermanagh, Cavan, Down, lose against Tyrone then win a R4 game to reach the same spot. The Rossies have 'er handy.

Ulster is shite lad. Ye beat the Donegal U21 team and suddenly eejits think ye'll not only give Dublin a game but beat them.

I believe Roscommon have been tossed out by Ulster sides in 4 of the past 5 Championships.

True. But in the last 4 or 5 years, outside province, Roscommon have only been able to knock out Ulster sides - Cavan a few times, and Armagh.

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I believe it's also 16 or 17 years since Roscommon beat either Mayo or Galway in Championship football.

Beat both in 2001, previous to that in 90 and 91. High time we altered that. I believe the current group of players, right now a very young team,  have enough talent to change that.

What is interesting about the batch of Roscommon underage teams that had moderate to decent success over the past 7/8 years is how many of them have turned out to be crocks?

Were they just thrown into senior too early and flogged? They've been hyped up quite a bit over the last few years and I think there has been a very soft core in them, I think they believe a lot of the hype and when things tend to go bad for them, they fold rather than dig in and turn it around. The Clare game being a prime example.

give us a few examples?

its the third level colleges who seem to be doing all the flogging. And not a word about it in the GAA when burnout is mentioned

Wasting your time with that individual. Without the aid of google he would struggle to name 2 or 3 Roscommon players that has come through U-21 level recently and has gone on hold down a senior spot on the team. You are correct about third level colleges BTW especially the finals weekends when young players are forced to play twice in two days even Jim Gavin spoke out about it this year.

http://www.the42.ie/gavin-mcaffrey-sigerson-dublin-3271418-Mar2017/

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You'd have to expect a severe backlash from the Rossies, last years replay was their biggest embarrassment since the Gay Referendum.

On a different note, complete joke that the provincial losers get to join the qualifiers at R4. They should join at R3 and have the R3 winners facing off in R4

System is stacked enough as it is against provincial final losers. That would be a mental change tbh.

It's a total disgrace that Roscommon could beat Leitrim and get beat by Galway and still are one match away from a QF. Monaghan have to beat Fermanagh, Cavan, Down, lose against Tyrone then win a R4 game to reach the same spot. The Rossies have 'er handy.

Ulster is shite lad. Ye beat the Donegal U21 team and suddenly eejits think ye'll not only give Dublin a game but beat them.

I believe Roscommon have been tossed out by Ulster sides in 4 of the past 5 Championships.

True. But in the last 4 or 5 years, outside province, Roscommon have only been able to knock out Ulster sides - Cavan a few times, and Armagh.

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I believe it's also 16 or 17 years since Roscommon beat either Mayo or Galway in Championship football.

Beat both in 2001, previous to that in 90 and 91. High time we altered that. I believe the current group of players, right now a very young team,  have enough talent to change that.

What is interesting about the batch of Roscommon underage teams that had moderate to decent success over the past 7/8 years is how many of them have turned out to be crocks?

Were they just thrown into senior too early and flogged? They've been hyped up quite a bit over the last few years and I think there has been a very soft core in them, I think they believe a lot of the hype and when things tend to go bad for them, they fold rather than dig in and turn it around. The Clare game being a prime example.

give us a few examples?

its the third level colleges who seem to be doing all the flogging. And not a word about it in the GAA when burnout is mentioned

Wasting your time with that individual. Without the aid of google he would struggle to name 2 or 3 Roscommon players that has come through U-21 level recently and has gone on hold down a senior spot on the team. You are correct about third level colleges BTW especially the finals weekends when young players are forced to play twice in two days even Jim Gavin spoke out about it this year.

http://www.the42.ie/gavin-mcaffrey-sigerson-dublin-3271418-Mar2017/

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Sorry to hear that Oliver.
I suppose retiree might be more accurate but he's still absent anyway.
Of course there's Harney, Cathal Compton, Corcoran and Cafferkey too.

Doubt any of them will be back for Final if we do get over Leitrim

Corcoran is in the US. He left panel after breaking his collar bone which would have ruled him out of any county action for the year anyway.
Compton

Harney fracture on his back does not seem to be healing with current rehab and is due for another scan soon. He might not kick a ball for the rest of the year but hopefully the scan will shed more light.

Compton needs a break from football although he technically could be fit if we reach final he has had a number of hamstring tares in last few months and really need to mind himself for the future hes only 21/22

The above is a post from one of your own outlining some of your crocks.

You Roscommon guys are even worse than Mayo fans when it comes to myopic pining about any sort of criticism or blowback on their players.

Their championship record in recent years is pitiful, that's a fact.

They have been hyped up in recent years to make a breakthrough, they have done nothing of the sort. They have had decent underage performances in the past 10 years but none of that group have done anything at senior level.

In past three seasons they have been handed golden paths to an All Ireland qf.

In 2015, all they had to do was beat Sligo and win one more game for a last 8 slot - they lost to Sligo and then got tossed out by Fermanagh.

In 2016, it was New York, Sligo and Clare in their way, they scraped past New York, got trounced by Galway in the Connacht final and downed their tools in an exit against 14 man Clare.

This year, it is Leitrim and win one more game.

What's the reason for this?

The players just aren't that good?
The players believe their hype too much and mentally are a soft touch?
Or they've been decimated by injuries after flogging these young lads?

Very similar to the Mayo fans on here, Roscommon fans seem to lack introspection. My own view would be that as long as their players are protected species, treated as demigods and immune from any sort of blowback when they underachieve or underperform then they won't be doing anything at Championship level.

With the money being pumped into Roscommon football and the hype surrounding I feel the fans should be asking some serious questions about their players but I don't see it.

That's an independent view, free of bias.

you still didn't name any of the U21 players who didn't come through to senior because they are 'crocked'

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you still didn't name any of the U21 players who didn't come through to senior because they are 'crocked'

I never mentioned anything about u21 teams.

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you still didn't name any of the U21 players who didn't come through to senior because they are 'crocked'

I never mentioned anything about u21 teams.

All above players mentioned by me in previous post have done more at senior level than any Tyrone player of the same age. You fail to mention Diarmuid Murtagh or Enda Smith both of same age who could walk onto any team in the country.

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you still didn't name any of the U21 players who didn't come through to senior because they are 'crocked'

I never mentioned anything about u21 teams.

All above players mentioned by me in previous post have done more at senior level than any Tyrone player of the same age. You fail to mention Diarmuid Murtagh or Enda Smith both of same age who could walk onto any team in the country.

Ah yes, here we go.

A prime example of the sort of misguided hype of Roscommon. None of those players have done anything of note at senior level.

Hampsey just picked up a MOTM award against Donegal last Sunday. Mark Bradley destroyed Paul Murphy in an All Ireland semi in 2015. McGeary and Rory Brennan also contributed to last year's Ulster Final win over Donegal with Brennan putting the shackles on Ryan McHugh.

I would say that's a lot more than any Roscommon player has done in senior Championship.

Jesus Bomber you wouldn't think Tyrone have only one more Sam than Ros.

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Jesus Bomber you wouldn't think Tyrone have only one more Sam than Ros.

And the Rossies did back to back titles the sign of a true GAA county!! ;D

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Jesus Bomber you wouldn't think Tyrone have only one more Sam than Ros.

I'm not a dinosaur. Unless you're a pensioner then you wouldn't remember Roscommon winning an AI.

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That's an independent view, free of bias.

;D

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you still didn't name any of the U21 players who didn't come through to senior because they are 'crocked'

I never mentioned anything about u21 teams.

All above players mentioned by me in previous post have done more at senior level than any Tyrone player of the same age. You fail to mention Diarmuid Murtagh or Enda Smith both of same age who could walk onto any team in the country.

Ah yes, here we go.

A prime example of the sort of misguided hype of Roscommon. None of those players have done anything of note at senior level.

Hampsey just picked up a MOTM award against Donegal last Sunday. Mark Bradley destroyed Paul Murphy in an All Ireland semi in 2015. McGeary and Rory Brennan also contributed to last year's Ulster Final win over Donegal with Brennan putting the shackles on Ryan McHugh.

I would say that's a lot more than any Roscommon player has done in senior Championship.

You know the name of Tyrone players good lad, now stick with what you know and less of what you don't.

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That's an independent view, free of bias.

;D

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you still didn't name any of the U21 players who didn't come through to senior because they are 'crocked'

I never mentioned anything about u21 teams.

All above players mentioned by me in previous post have done more at senior level than any Tyrone player of the same age. You fail to mention Diarmuid Murtagh or Enda Smith both of same age who could walk onto any team in the country.

Ah yes, here we go.

A prime example of the sort of misguided hype of Roscommon. None of those players have done anything of note at senior level.

Hampsey just picked up a MOTM award against Donegal last Sunday. Mark Bradley destroyed Paul Murphy in an All Ireland semi in 2015. McGeary and Rory Brennan also contributed to last year's Ulster Final win over Donegal with Brennan putting the shackles on Ryan McHugh.

I would say that's a lot more than any Roscommon player has done in senior Championship.

You know the name of Tyrone players good lad, now stick with what you know and less of what you don't.

I'm only dealing in facts here and I'm free of bias. If people are intolerant of facts then that's not my problem.

Maybe Roscommon fans need to realise it is not the 1950s and park up their Ford Anglias.

Time to stop feeding the troll lads.
He might then take the time to get his prescription renewed.

Agree rossfan and it's nice to see you can put up a post that doesn't include "3 year plan" in it.

I was afraid the troll wouldn't be able to sleep for 3 years ;D

Both counties are coming into this in a better position than last year.
The expectation is off Roscommon, and they really don't have a lot to lose. They look to be peaking for championship this season rather than the league. Galway have been bleating on all season about consistent performances being their main goal. Hopefully learning from the Tipp loss last season.

Roscommon's forwards versus Galway's full back line would worry me, but I'd say the strength of our bench and being able to make changes with injury/fatigue takes it's toll in 40th minute on will hopefully be the difference. I don't think Roscommon have the largest panel in the world. A sending off, or an injury to a key man could be the difference here.

I'd say Galway will be three point favourites for this. Will be good for the neutral to see players like Comer, Walsh, and the Murtagh's on show.

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Jesus Bomber you wouldn't think Tyrone have only one more Sam than Ros.

I'm not a dinosaur. Unless you're a pensioner then you wouldn't remember Roscommon winning an AI.

Most Rossies  would be able to  remember back to when Tyrone was looking for an arse for its trousers

https://youtu.be/cxeAr3n2Ous

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Jesus Bomber you wouldn't think Tyrone have only one more Sam than Ros.

I'm not a dinosaur. Unless you're a pensioner then you wouldn't remember Roscommon winning an AI.

Most Rossies  would be able to  remember back to when Tyrone was looking for an arse for its trousers

https://youtu.be/cxeAr3n2Ous

Would they?

Was that back when they bought their Ford Anglias?

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on June 23, 2017, 11:34:43 AM
I'm only dealing in facts here and I'm free of bias. If people are intolerant of facts then that's not my problem.
Maybe Roscommon fans need to realise it is not the 1950s and park up their Ford Anglias.

Dealing in facts and what is your problem is you are delicate soul because some Rossie on here upset you about your precious Tyrone. Time for you to move on and away from this topic as lets be honest you probably know more about 1950s Ford Anglias than the ins or outs of Roscommon football.

Ah lads, I'd be interested in people's views on Galway-Ros. Don't want to be having to click ignore on a load of off topic nonsense

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Ah lads, I'd be interested in people's views on Galway-Ros. Don't want to be having to click ignore on a load of off topic nonsense

Welcome to GAABoard.com

It will be interesting to see what Galway do on Roscommon kick outs, Galway conceded far too many short kickouts to Mayo even in the 1st half despite Mayo not having any extra men back. Galway were just far too slow to react on several occasions and let Mayo get out.

As for Roscommon I haven't a clue what to expect.

Given what happened against Tipp there should be no complacency in the Galway camp.

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Ah lads, I'd be interested in people's views on Galway-Ros. Don't want to be having to click ignore on a load of off topic nonsense

Welcome to GAABoard.com

Have been reading it here for last 10 years. Usually you've one lad mouthing off, but if you leave him be he goes quiet. Seems we've more lads arguing.

This is a massive game for both teams. Win and you're in a quarter final. Lose and you could be coming up against Mayo, Donegal or Meath to get back in the hunt. Connacht runners up get drawn against 3A winners I believe

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Ah lads, I'd be interested in people's views on Galway-Ros. Don't want to be having to click ignore on a load of off topic nonsense

Welcome to GAABoard.com

Have been reading it here for last 10 years. Usually you've one lad mouthing off, but if you leave him be he goes quiet. Seems we've more lads arguing.

This is a massive game for both teams. Win and you're in a quarter final. Lose and you could be coming up against Mayo, Donegal or Meath to get back in the hunt. Connacht runners up get drawn against 3A winners I believe

Meath and Donegal aren't great shakes tbh and if the losers actually have a two week break they can give them a good rattle. I doubt Galway would like to see Mayo yet again so soon, though. For us it doesn't really matter, to get to a QF we have to beat a decent team in a big game in one of two possible chances, something we haven't done in a while. Anything else and the year is indeed a failure. People think there's not much pressure on us this year but not making a third very reachable QF on the trot is going to be a killer.

If it's a rare fine day in Salthill I'd expect a good match. I don't see our lads captipulating like in McHale because that memory and a much more settled panel will drive them on. We have some excellent attacking footballers and if they have the stomach for the physical exchanges there's not much to fear heading to Salthill.

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Ah lads, I'd be interested in people's views on Galway-Ros. Don't want to be having to click ignore on a load of off topic nonsense

Welcome to GAABoard.com

Have been reading it here for last 10 years. Usually you've one lad mouthing off, but if you leave him be he goes quiet. Seems we've more lads arguing.

This is a massive game for both teams. Win and you're in a quarter final. Lose and you could be coming up against Mayo, Donegal or Meath to get back in the hunt. Connacht runners up get drawn against 3A winners I believe

Meath and Donegal aren't great shakes tbh and if the losers actually have a two week break they can give them a good rattle. I doubt Galway would like to see Mayo yet again so soon, though. For us it doesn't really matter, to get to a QF we have to beat a decent team in a big game in one of two possible chances, something we haven't done in a while. Anything else and the year is indeed a failure. People think there's not much pressure on us this year but not making a third very reachable QF on the trot is going to be a killer.

If it's a rare fine day in Salthill I'd expect a good match. I don't see our lads captipulating like in McHale because that memory and a much more settled panel will drive them on. We have some excellent attacking footballers and if they have the stomach for the physical exchanges there's not much to fear heading to Salthill.

That's a good point. we don't need to be playing Mayo again so soon. I don't see Ros capitulating, and I don't see Galway underestimating them either. That's why it'll make for a close game. Next year this game will be a Super 8 decider.

With regard kickout strategy, I think that we will push up on Ros with Damo Comer a good organiser and leader in at full forward. There are a few Galway forwards that don't seem to switch on when they have to hassle a lad or mark up on kickouts. Instead they seem to be just happy to get goal side and be passive which isn't a good thing. I think with Comer up there as a leader we should be more shrewd.

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As for Roscommon I haven't a clue what to expect.

Neither have we!
We looked good against Laythrum but sure wouldn't anyone ( sadly).
We don't know if we're going to hit the ground running and play hell altogether, or get a hockeying like last year or just lose a high scoring shootout.
No real pressure on Ros once we don't get destroyed like 2016.
A decent showing and we'll not be too unhappy about the result.
But then again you'd never know, on the day, bounce of the ball or bit o' luck etc etc.
Feck it it's all to play for....

The way the draw is, lose and you could be playing Mayo, win and you could be playing Mayo. A difficult round 4 and 1/4 final faces both teams. Although I had a read of the Western People this week and there was a big story in there by John Cuffe saying the current team is finished, and time to develop a new team. But that's for another day. Although unlikely, I hope it's a nice day in Salthill and we get a shootout. But I even remember the 2009 Connacht final in Salthill cos Ros were in the minor and there was still a very strong breeze blowing even though the day itself was lovely. If we get a shootout, I'd be confident we could outscore Galway. But I think Kevin Walsh will setup defensively and hope to hit our suspect defence on the counter attack. While we didn't know it at the time, the joint management of McStay and Fergal O'Donnell had two different football philosophies and things had broken down by the Connacht Final last year. We'll definitely bring a more coherent game plan to Salthill, so optimistic to an extent. Biggest worry is a lack of depth in some positions. It's a tremendous opportunity for our young team to break the cycle of false dawns.

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Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on June 23, 2017, 11:34:43 AM
I'm only dealing in facts here and I'm free of bias. If people are intolerant of facts then that's not my problem.
Maybe Roscommon fans need to realise it is not the 1950s and park up their Ford Anglias.

Dealing in facts and what is your problem is you are delicate soul because some Rossie on here upset you about your precious Tyrone. Time for you to move on and away from this topic as lets be honest you probably know more about 1950s Ford Anglias than the ins or outs of Roscommon football.

I'm anything but delicate. I'm a pragmatist and deal in substance over style, this is nothing personal, it just happens that Roscommon get an awful lot of hot air wrote about them and a lot of that is from themselves. The sensitive souls are actually from guys like yourself who don't want valid criticism put in front of them.

What do you think I have said about Roscommon that is untrue or unfair? Be specific as well.I won't be giving empathetic cuddles because you lads got carried away with yourselves, I'll say it as it is and that would seem to be your problem - hyper sensitivity.

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The way the draw is, lose and you could be playing Mayo, win and you could be playing Mayo. A difficult round 4 and 1/4 final faces both teams. Although I had a read of the Western People this week and there was a big story in there by John Cuffe saying the current team is finished, and time to develop a new team. But that's for another day. Although unlikely, I hope it's a nice day in Salthill and we get a shootout. But I even remember the 2009 Connacht final in Salthill cos Ros were in the minor and there was still a very strong breeze blowing even though the day itself was lovely. If we get a shootout, I'd be confident we could outscore Galway. But I think Kevin Walsh will setup defensively and hope to hit our suspect defence on the counter attack. While we didn't know it at the time, the joint management of McStay and Fergal O'Donnell had two different football philosophies and things had broken down by the Connacht Final last year. We'll definitely bring a more coherent game plan to Salthill, so optimistic to an extent. Biggest worry is a lack of depth in some positions. It's a tremendous opportunity for our young team to break the cycle of false dawns.

I dunno how suspect our midfield is tbh. If we could spare him I'd have Enda on the wing but he gets so much space playing the middle there's a case to be made for playing him there anyways. Certainly creates a mismatch with almost any midfielder, who has little chance keeping up with him. TOR I think has had a very good debut season, a workhorse midfielder who breaks ball and has a great workrate. I think both compliment each other, and would say we haven't had a more stable pairing since 2014 when Shine and Higgins were at their very best. Physically I don't think they're overmatched against Flynn and FOC, it's more dealing with Conry that would be my issue for us around the middle third.

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Quote from: weareros on June 23, 2017, 06:55:19 PM
The way the draw is, lose and you could be playing Mayo, win and you could be playing Mayo. A difficult round 4 and 1/4 final faces both teams. Although I had a read of the Western People this week and there was a big story in there by John Cuffe saying the current team is finished, and time to develop a new team. But that's for another day. Although unlikely, I hope it's a nice day in Salthill and we get a shootout. But I even remember the 2009 Connacht final in Salthill cos Ros were in the minor and there was still a very strong breeze blowing even though the day itself was lovely. If we get a shootout, I'd be confident we could outscore Galway. But I think Kevin Walsh will setup defensively and hope to hit our suspect defence on the counter attack. While we didn't know it at the time, the joint management of McStay and Fergal O'Donnell had two different football philosophies and things had broken down by the Connacht Final last year. We'll definitely bring a more coherent game plan to Salthill, so optimistic to an extent. Biggest worry is a lack of depth in some positions. It's a tremendous opportunity for our young team to break the cycle of false dawns.

I dunno how suspect our midfield is tbh. If we could spare him I'd have Enda on the wing but he gets so much space playing the middle there's a case to be made for playing him there anyways. Certainly creates a mismatch with almost any midfielder, who has little chance keeping up with him. TOR I think has had a very good debut season, a workhorse midfielder who breaks ball and has a great workrate. I think both compliment each other, and would say we haven't had a more stable pairing since 2014 when Shine and Higgins were at their very best. Physically I don't think they're overmatched against Flynn and FOC, it's more dealing with Conry that would be my issue for us around the middle third.

No I'm happy with our midfield. It's the most athletic and mobile we've ever had. What worries me is if one picks up an injury, given that Corcoran is out for the year, and Compton is very misfortunate with injuries, and Higgins had to retire from intercounty because of strain of injuries.

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Quote from: weareros on June 23, 2017, 06:55:19 PM
The way the draw is, lose and you could be playing Mayo, win and you could be playing Mayo. A difficult round 4 and 1/4 final faces both teams. Although I had a read of the Western People this week and there was a big story in there by John Cuffe saying the current team is finished, and time to develop a new team. But that's for another day. Although unlikely, I hope it's a nice day in Salthill and we get a shootout. But I even remember the 2009 Connacht final in Salthill cos Ros were in the minor and there was still a very strong breeze blowing even though the day itself was lovely. If we get a shootout, I'd be confident we could outscore Galway. But I think Kevin Walsh will setup defensively and hope to hit our suspect defence on the counter attack. While we didn't know it at the time, the joint management of McStay and Fergal O'Donnell had two different football philosophies and things had broken down by the Connacht Final last year. We'll definitely bring a more coherent game plan to Salthill, so optimistic to an extent. Biggest worry is a lack of depth in some positions. It's a tremendous opportunity for our young team to break the cycle of false dawns.

I dunno how suspect our midfield is tbh. If we could spare him I'd have Enda on the wing but he gets so much space playing the middle there's a case to be made for playing him there anyways. Certainly creates a mismatch with almost any midfielder, who has little chance keeping up with him. TOR I think has had a very good debut season, a workhorse midfielder who breaks ball and has a great workrate. I think both compliment each other, and would say we haven't had a more stable pairing since 2014 when Shine and Higgins were at their very best. Physically I don't think they're overmatched against Flynn and FOC, it's more dealing with Conry that would be my issue for us around the middle third.

No I'm happy with our midfield. It's the most athletic and mobile we've ever had. What worries me is if one picks up an injury, given that Corcoran is out for the year, and Compton is very misfortunate with injuries, and Higgins had to retire from intercounty because of strain of injuries.

I'd say Ian K might be the designated guy to fill in. He was doing quite well there last season before he injured the hamstring, and that pretty much finished his season. If he didn't pick up an injury before the Leitrim game I'd have expected him to come on and replace Enda or TOR who had both done a lot of running by the final quarter.

Compton's quaility is being overlooked I think because of his injuries, he's very athletic for a big lad and he can score some wonderful points too. Like Harney I think he's only a run of fitness away from making a real impact on the team. Any setbacks to those four lads and we'll really have our work cut out to win another game this season.

Once again I call on you syferus to take down that iconic photo of the great Dermot Earley you are using.
This is the seventh anniversary of his passing and associating the great man with the absolute bile that you post is an insult to Dermots memory. 

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Once again I call on you syferus to take down that iconic photo of the great Dermot Earley you are using.
This is the seventh anniversary of his passing and associating the great man with the absolute bile that you post is an insult to Dermots memory.

You are a very small man.

No syf Im not, using the image of out greatest all time footballer says its you who is the very small very stupid man.

What do Ros need to do.to win?

1. Maybe run at the Galway FB line. A few goals would work wonders.

2 Imagine the maroon jerseys are white

But can it happen?

Ah lads just when Bomber went to bed and we thought we'd get a bit of peace and quiet.

Alot of talk here earlier in the season that division 2 of the league was of poor quality,well that's four division two teams in provincial finals.I know it's another big step to win them finals,but as down proved tonight league form goes out the window, Galway beware!!
Derry could also get renewed hope after tonight's result,the qualifiers are getting interesting!!

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Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 21, 2017, 03:46:56 PM
Last two Galway v Roscommon Connacht finals went to replays. The replay date for this final is Sat 15th July and if that happens the loser of a replay will only have 6 days to recover before playing their round 4 tie and if they manage to win (stats against them) they will have to face a well rested Kerry in the last eight. Anyone else find this scheduling to be total nonsense?

What do you suggest instead Cunny?

One thing i would suggest is that Connacht final loser has at least two weeks to prepare for their qualifier game even if the final goes to a replay.

But how, Cunny? There are only so many weekends in the summer. If teams don't win games fixtures will backlog. It's as inevitable as day following night.

In the Qualifiers earlier iterations I think the fixture-makers were blind-sided by the difference loss of recovery-time made, but right now it seems to me the gaps are as good as can be hoped for, not least with the introduction of A- and B- streams in the qualifiers. It's to allow for as long a gap as is feasible that they were introduced. But if teams are drawing and not winning games, there will be consequences. There are only so many weekends in the summer, as I say.

How? well better scheduling of fixtures for example play the Connacht final on July 2nd instead of July 9th. Galway played in a league final and still had to wait for 8 weeks i think to play their first championship game while Roscommon had a 11 week wait. Only so many weekends in the summer you say yet the two finalist had many weekends waiting around.

Fair enough Cunny. The counter-argument to playing the final on July 2nd would be that the Connacht Champions would then be cold going into their semi-final after a four-week layoff. I don't know what the answer is. My fundamental point, really, is that you're always going to get hanged on something unless you win all your games. It's just not possible to allow for all contingencies.

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Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 21, 2017, 03:46:56 PM
Last two Galway v Roscommon Connacht finals went to replays. The replay date for this final is Sat 15th July and if that happens the loser of a replay will only have 6 days to recover before playing their round 4 tie and if they manage to win (stats against them) they will have to face a well rested Kerry in the last eight. Anyone else find this scheduling to be total nonsense?

What do you suggest instead Cunny?

One thing i would suggest is that Connacht final loser has at least two weeks to prepare for their qualifier game even if the final goes to a replay.

But how, Cunny? There are only so many weekends in the summer. If teams don't win games fixtures will backlog. It's as inevitable as day following night.

In the Qualifiers earlier iterations I think the fixture-makers were blind-sided by the difference loss of recovery-time made, but right now it seems to me the gaps are as good as can be hoped for, not least with the introduction of A- and B- streams in the qualifiers. It's to allow for as long a gap as is feasible that they were introduced. But if teams are drawing and not winning games, there will be consequences. There are only so many weekends in the summer, as I say.

How? well better scheduling of fixtures for example play the Connacht final on July 2nd instead of July 9th. Galway played in a league final and still had to wait for 8 weeks i think to play their first championship game while Roscommon had a 11 week wait. Only so many weekends in the summer you say yet the two finalist had many weekends waiting around.

Fair enough Cunny. The counter-argument to playing the final on July 2nd would be that the Connacht Champions would then be cold going into their semi-final after a four-week layoff. I don't know what the answer is. My fundamental point, really, is that you're always going to get hanged on something unless you win all your games. It's just not possible to allow for all contingencies.

Jaysis did the AISF get moved to up before the AIQF? Out of the box thinking from Duffy alright.

Roscommon lost a challenge match to us this weekend by something like 0-17 to 0-13, with both teams close to full strength. Not confirmed but I'm sure there are more details out there.

Quote from: thejuice on June 25, 2017, 10:50:51 PM
Roscommon lost a challenge match to us this weekend by something like 0-17 to 0-13, with both teams close to full strength. Not confirmed but I'm sure there are more details out there.

Was Bernard Flynn at the game?

We were bonding in Johnstown bridge.
Galway beware ::)

Watched galway training in the (wind tunnel)yesterday practising alot of long kicks for points,in to both sets of goals, Heaney looks to be injured,galway need to be on their game,the rossies are no slouches,I have genuine fear for our backline,if Ross could get parity in midfield it promises to be one hell of a match!!

Quote from: cornetto on June 26, 2017, 01:48:17 PM
Watched galway training in the (wind tunnel)yesterday practising alot of long kicks for points,in to both sets of goals, Heaney looks to be injured,galway need to be on their game,the rossies are no slouches,I have genuine fear for our backline,if Ross could get parity in midfield it promises to be one hell of a match!!

A midfield trio of Flynn,Ó Curraoin,Conroy will have too much strength and experience for Roscommons midfield which is Enda Smith a forward who rarely does the required defensive work for a midfielder and O Rourke a lad just out of U21 level and plays intermediate club football in Roscommon meaning this game could be a massive step up for him. The rossies have little or no midfield cover on their bench either which makes things even worse.

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Quote from: cornetto on June 26, 2017, 01:48:17 PM
Watched galway training in the (wind tunnel)yesterday practising alot of long kicks for points,in to both sets of goals, Heaney looks to be injured,galway need to be on their game,the rossies are no slouches,I have genuine fear for our backline,if Ross could get parity in midfield it promises to be one hell of a match!!

A midfield trio of Flynn,Ó Curraoin,Conroy will have too much strength and experience for Roscommons midfield which is Enda Smith a forward who rarely does the required defensive work for a midfielder and O Rourke a lad just out of U21 level and plays intermediate club football in Roscommon meaning this game could be a massive step up for him. The rossies have little or no midfield cover on their bench either which makes things even worse.

I don't know what Enda Smith you've been watching this year, but then again you're one of those accounts that's strangely evasive about their county so I don't know what to think.

Bringing up TOR playing Intermediate football is true nonsense when you consider he's been part of county set-ups with mostly the same group of lads for the last eight or nine years. Best midfield pairing we've had in at least three or four seasons.

I expect Galway to chicken out and not mark up all our backs on kick-outs meaning we'll retain possession quite easily with short kick-outs. Anyone who kicks deep when they don't have to is a mug.

David Gough is the referee. Great news. Best ref in the game by a distance. Because we're not playing Mayo Prenty spared us from Marty..

It's all coming together.
Galway beware!!

Our good friends on the mayo blog still emotionally bothered after the defeat to galway.

"In Pearse Stadium earlier this month we had a moderate Galway team – let's be honest here and acknowledge that they were nothing other than this – under the hammer and we failed to beat them, showing an alarming lack of composure in the closing stages".

That's what makes it more enjoyable,they should have won but didn't against a "moderate" team. Roscommon could well prove this to be true,to be honest it wouldnt feel as bad!!

Ink sticks. People will remember who was the Connacht champion in 2017, not how good or bad they were beforehand.

Will this be the smallest Connacht Final attendance for years?

Quote from: cornetto on June 30, 2017, 01:05:21 AM
Our good friends on the mayo blog still emotionally bothered after the defeat to galway.

"In Pearse Stadium earlier this month we had a moderate Galway team – let's be honest here and acknowledge that they were nothing other than this – under the hammer and we failed to beat them, showing an alarming lack of composure in the closing stages".

That's what makes it more enjoyable,they should have won but didn't against a "moderate" team. Roscommon could well prove this to be true,to be honest it wouldnt feel as bad!!

Moderate eh?? Serious motivation there for the Galway boys, I'd say Walsh will have that plastered all over the dressing room walls.  ;D  ;D

Between this bit of sleuthing and your exposé about the secret players meeting, I get the impression you've a bit of a hangup about Mayo? Did the Mort swipe your girlfriend or something?

  :'( :'( :'( :'(

Connacht Final is between Ros and Galway.
Why are we talking about some other team?

Quote from: cornetto on June 30, 2017, 01:05:21 AM
Our good friends on the mayo blog still emotionally bothered after the defeat to galway.

"In Pearse Stadium earlier this month we had a moderate Galway team – let's be honest here and acknowledge that they were nothing other than this – under the hammer and we failed to beat them, showing an alarming lack of composure in the closing stages".

That's what makes it more enjoyable,they should have won but didn't against a "moderate" team. Roscommon could well prove this to be true,to be honest it wouldnt feel as bad!!

I think that type of talk on the mayogaablog is to be expected, there's no respect at all for this Galway team within Mayo, perhaps rightly so given the horrendous beatings Galway have taken over the past decade and to be honest that lack of respect is probably one of the reasons why they lost last year due to complacency and thinking that they only had to show up on the day to win.
Not sure that complacency was a factor at all this year and I'd be cautious enough if I was a Mayo man, even accepting being down to 14 men as a valid excuse it'd be a bit worrying not to beat Galway with a superior panel and vastly more experienced team, especially when I wouldn't consider Galway's overall performance against Mayo on June 11th good enough at all to win the upcoming Connacht final.

All that said, Galway have to plough their own furrow, disregard outside opinions which are of no actual value anyway and get as far as they can this year with the squad available, any talk about Mayo should be parked now and the sole focus moved to the Rossies, Mayo aren't in either of the matches on Sunday week and are an irrelevance in the context of the 2017 Connacht finals.

There's improvements to be made across the board for Galway from the semi-final performance, in mitigation it was their first competitive performance in 10 weeks so a bit of rust would only be expected.
Roscommon are coming in very much under the radar despite beating Leitrim out the gate and there is no way that they could be as bad as last year's replayed final again. It'll be interesting to see how they line out in comparison to 12 months ago given the retirements, panel drop offs and injuries Roscommon have currently.
I'd guess we can expect much the same from Galway in terms of the first 15, there should be a couple of changes in my view but Walsh might decide to go again with similar lineup to the Mayo match.

I've listened to a few podcasts and this Willie Joe character has a very high opinion of himself but at the end of the day its Mayo fans website so there's bound to be a fair bit of biasedness just as there would if it was a Galway fans website. I wouldn't take much notice of him and he only sees everything from a Mayo point of view which is understandable to a degree.

Kevin Walsh will be disappointed with Galway from 60 minutes on in the Mayo game and probably many aspects of the first half but mainly those last 17 minutes including injury time.  Galway went 4 points up against Mayo and were comfortable and Mayo were really struggling and were restricted to kicking 3 great points but Galway aren't used to play games at this level and it really showed. Galway went 8 minutes without having any possession in Mayo's 45, kickouts were a huge problem and Galway just couldn't get out. I'd put this down to tiredness and a lack of experience which is understandable given this teams lack of games against the 6 established Div 1 sides. Galway defenders had started to get caught in possession which hadn't happened all game.

This Mayo team have so much experience and are one of the best if not the best at putting pressure on oppositions kickouts so its not all doom and gloom, COC is the best forward in the game at turning over ball.

The majority of Galway posters are well aware of the limitations there are in that defence, I'd imagine its at least 2/3 players short of moving onto the next level as a serious contender but there's no reason they won't improve with the more games they play against top opposition hence why promotion was so important this year. Improving the short kickouts will certainly help with our defensive problems so I'd imagine a lot of work will have gone into this.

There's enough talent in that forward line to cause anyone problems individually and collectively its just whether they see enough ball.

Roscommon drew in the wind tunnel last year first day out. this year they seem to be going in much fresher
this game is going to be close
smart money is on the draw

Freshness both mental and physical is a big factor in the Championship.
I'd settle for a draw and replay in the Hyde.

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 30, 2017, 11:29:45 AM
Roscommon drew in the wind tunnel last year first day out. this year they seem to be going in much fresher
this game is going to be close
smart money is on the draw

That's a good point. I think a lot of people are forgetting the first day out last year, and just focus their preview on the big win in the replay.

I do think that an injury or sending off will decide this one, as Galway's panel can stretch that bit further than Roscommon's. Fifteen on fifteen it will be close. I imagine Galway had been preparing for the Mayo game for most of the time between league final and first round.
The Leitrim game will have brought on Roscommon's confidence a lot. Galway after being bitten by Tipp last year should stick to their goal of consistency and staying games even when not playing well.

I imagine Brannigan will come back in, with Daly maybe dropping out.
Anyone think Farragher might get a return to centre back if Ros are dropping back sweepers on Comer?

Quote from: Rossfan on June 30, 2017, 11:59:24 AM
Freshness both mental and physical is a big factor in the Championship.
I'd settle for a draw and replay in the Hyde.

We settled for a draw the last time. Win the damn thing.

Quote from: Rossfan on June 30, 2017, 09:25:35 AM
Will this be the smallest Connacht Final attendance for years?

There was just under 25,000 there last year and that was on one of the worst days of the year.

We were all wound up last year whereas this year th'oul bandwagon will be more modest.
Were only 16k at the replay mind you.

Quote from: Rossfan on June 30, 2017, 03:24:14 PM
We were all wound up last year whereas this year th'oul bandwagon will be more modest.
Were only 16k at the replay mind you.

The two supporters voted with their feet when Castlebar was chosen as the venue it seems. Is it true if the replay was played in Salthill the next two Roscommon Galway games would be played in Hyde park?

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Quote from: Rossfan on June 30, 2017, 03:24:14 PM
We were all wound up last year whereas this year th'oul bandwagon will be more modest.
Were only 16k at the replay mind you.

The two supporters voted with their feet when Castlebar was chosen as the venue it seems. Is it true if the replay was played in Salthill the next two Roscommon Galway games would be played in Hyde park?

Castlebar was way handier for Roscommon people. The 9k that were missing were mostly the Galway bandwagoners who probably hadn't been to a Galway game in eight years.

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 30, 2017, 11:29:45 AM
Roscommon drew in the wind tunnel last year first day out. this year they seem to be going in much fresher
this game is going to be close
smart money is on the draw

The proper Smart money is almost never on the Draw in GAA tbh

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Quote from: Rossfan on June 30, 2017, 03:24:14 PM
We were all wound up last year whereas this year th'oul bandwagon will be more modest.
Were only 16k at the replay mind you.

The two supporters voted with their feet when Castlebar was chosen as the venue it seems. Is it true if the replay was played in Salthill the next two Roscommon Galway games would be played in Hyde park?

Castlebar was way handier for Roscommon people. The 9k that were missing were mostly the Galway bandwagoners who probably hadn't been to a Galway game in eight years.

Mustve been almost exclusively Galway in Salthill that day so? When you add the 9k to the second half attendance in Castlebar

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Quote from: Rossfan on June 30, 2017, 03:24:14 PM
We were all wound up last year whereas this year th'oul bandwagon will be more modest.
Were only 16k at the replay mind you.

The two supporters voted with their feet when Castlebar was chosen as the venue it seems. Is it true if the replay was played in Salthill the next two Roscommon Galway games would be played in Hyde park?

Castlebar was way handier for Roscommon people. The 9k that were missing were mostly the Galway bandwagoners who probably hadn't been to a Galway game in eight years.

Mustve been almost exclusively Galway in Salthill that day so? When you add the 9k to the second half attendance in Castlebar

(http://cdn-02.independent.ie/incoming/article34891036.ece/2b3f1/AUTOCROP/w620/GALW%20ROSC%201187880.jpg)

Ever hear of anecdotal evidence?

Syferus 1.0 would have said Kevin Walsh is useless, Ros will win this by 10 points, Galway are overrated, Mayo are crap anyway
The latest iteration is far more bland.

How many likely changes in the Roscommon team that played Galway last year?

Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 30, 2017, 04:55:30 PM
How many likely changes in the Roscommon team that played Galway last year?

We don't know. Mullooly has a broken toe and Seanie's got a hand injury.

Seanie's opening a barbers in Ballagh, so at least we have that going for us.

Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 30, 2017, 04:55:30 PM
How many likely changes in the Roscommon team that played Galway last year?

I might be missing a few more but from what i understand Donal Keenan,Senan Kilbride,Donal Shine,Sean Purcell,Niall Daly,Cathal Cregg,Fergal Lennon,Tom Corcoran,Ultan Harney all played in the Connacht finals last year and won't this year. Doubts surrounding a few more players Cathal Compton,Sean Mullooly,Sean McDermott,David Murray because of injury.

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Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 30, 2017, 04:55:30 PM
How many likely changes in the Roscommon team that played Galway last year?

I might be missing a few more but from what i understand Donal Keenan,Senan Kilbride,Donal Shine,Sean Purcell,Niall Daly,Cathal Cregg,Fergal Lennon,Tom Corcoran,Ultan Harney all played in the Connacht finals last year and won't this year. Doubts surrounding a few more players Cathal Compton,Sean Mullooly,Sean McDermott,David Murray because of injury.

really?
some turnover of players.

Roscommon have their team for next Sunday named very early:

1. Colm Lavin (Éire Óg)
2. David Murray (Pádraig Pearses)
3. John McManus (Roscommon Gaels)
4. Niall McInerney (St Brigid's)
5. Sean McDermott (Western Gaels)
6. Sean Mullooly (Strokestown)
7. Conor Devaney (Kilbride)
8. Tadgh O'Rourke (Tulsk)
9. Cathal Compton (Strokestown)
10. Fintan Cregg (Elphin)
11. Ciaráin Murtagh (C) St Faithleach's
12. Enda Smith (Boyle)
13. Brian Stack (St. Brigid's)
14. Diarmuid Murtagh (St. Faithleach's)
15. Niall Kilroy (Fuerty)

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Roscommon have their team for next Sunday named very early:

1. Colm Lavin (Éire Óg)
2. David Murray (Pádraig Pearses)
3. John McManus (Roscommon Gaels)
4. Niall McInerney (St Brigid's)
5. Sean McDermott (Western Gaels)
6. Sean Mullooly (Strokestown)
7. Conor Devaney (Kilbride)
8. Tadgh O'Rourke (Tulsk)
9. Cathal Compton (Strokestown)
10. Fintan Cregg (Elphin)
11. Ciaráin Murtagh (C) St Faithleach's
12. Enda Smith (Boyle)
13. Brian Stack (St. Brigid's)
14. Diarmuid Murtagh (St. Faithleach's)
15. Niall Kilroy (Fuerty)

It's about the same time we named the team before the Leitrim game. No BS like alot of managers engage in.

What a vote of confidence in a young lad like Brian Stack. Second ever start for the seniors in a bearpit like Salthill on Connacht final Sunday. Might surprise a few people if he shows what he's capable of.

I believe the galway team has also been picked,who will be starting has not been released to the media yet,I suppose it lets the players prepare mentally for the game.

Really looking forward to Sunday, having seen Mayo produce another performance like they did in Salthill again on Saturday against a very poor Derry team gives me some hope that we may be in here with a bit of a shout, I trust McStays management and he seems to have things under control after a very stormy spring, we have a very young under developed team but they are a team of very good footballers. We all know our weaknesses and out strengths. Maybe this Galway team are being over rated after that Mayo display, hogan stand has them no 5 in their ratings, over rated for sure, but are the Rossies good enough to turn them over? Im gonna say yes a Roscommon win and every rte commentator will have Diarmuid Murtaghs name correct on Sunday evening.

But where's Donie Shannon? 

Quote from: Rossfan on July 03, 2017, 08:54:47 PM
But where's Donie Shannon?

There might be two Shannons back next year.

As I said earlier we are both at the same level,it will be all on the day,and to be honest if roscommon win I don't think there will be much begrudgery in galway.still hoping for a galway win though!!

Quote from: giveballaghback on July 03, 2017, 08:26:15 PM
Really looking forward to Sunday, having seen Mayo produce another performance like they did in Salthill again on Saturday against a very poor Derry team gives me some hope that we may be in here with a bit of a shout, I trust McStays management and he seems to have things under control after a very stormy spring, we have a very young under developed team but they are a team of very good footballers. We all know our weaknesses and out strengths. Maybe this Galway team are being over rated after that Mayo display, hogan stand has them no 5 in their ratings, over rated for sure, but are the Rossies good enough to turn them over? Im gonna say yes a Roscommon win and every rte commentator will have Diarmuid Murtaghs name correct on Sunday evening.

Haven't seen those rankings but Galway aren't the 5th best team in the country at the moment, somewhere in the 7-9 range depending on the day sounds more realistic.

If Galway play at the same level as in the Mayo match Roscommon have every chance, there's a lot of improvement needed although I'm hopeful that will be the case on Sunday.

I think Roscommon are in the same position as Galway were going into the Mayo Connacht semi-final last year, the whole year has been built around delivering a performance in this particular match, regardless of whether it was Galway or Mayo facing them in it. 
I'd expect a big performance from Roscommon but it'll be disappointing if Galway don't match it, back to back Connacht titles would be a great achievement when you consider where Galway were going into championship 2016.

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Quote from: giveballaghback on July 03, 2017, 08:26:15 PM
Really looking forward to Sunday, having seen Mayo produce another performance like they did in Salthill again on Saturday against a very poor Derry team gives me some hope that we may be in here with a bit of a shout, I trust McStays management and he seems to have things under control after a very stormy spring, we have a very young under developed team but they are a team of very good footballers. We all know our weaknesses and out strengths. Maybe this Galway team are

Haven't seen those rankings but Galway aren't the 5th best team in the country at the moment, somewhere in the 7-9 range depending on the day sounds more realistic.

If Galway play at the same level as in the Mayo match Roscommon have every chance, there's a lot of improvement needed although I'm hopeful that will be the case on Sunday.

I think Roscommon are in the same position as Galway were going into the Mayo Connacht semi-final last year, the whole year has been built around delivering a performance in this particular match, regardless of whether it was Galway or Mayo facing them in it. 
I'd expect a big performance from Roscommon but it'll be disappointing if Galway don't match it, back to back Connacht titles would be a great achievement when you consider where Galway were going into championship 2016.



A very good and fair analysis for both counties,I have to say.

why isn't cathal and his twin brother Donie playing?
Ger Canning won't know what to do.

Quote from: cornetto on July 03, 2017, 09:04:44 PM
As I said earlier we are both at the same level,it will be all on the day,and to be honest if roscommon win I don't think there will be much begrudgery in galway.still hoping for a galway win though!!

Ros are some way behind Galway.They did nothing since last year''s drawn match.

We changed/shafted/amended/improved our management;
We made major changes to our panel;
We laid a new super pitch in the Hyde;
We introduced a scatter of new lads;
We won a  League game.
We had one of the biggest victories in this year's Championship.
For the benefit of PHPearse - we devised and adopted a 3 year plan.
GALWAY BEWARE !!!!!

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 04, 2017, 09:01:31 AM
why isn't cathal and his twin brother Donie playing?
Ger Canning won't know what to do.

It will probably be Marty "they love their football in Roscommon" Morrissey commentating.  ::)

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Quote from: cornetto on July 03, 2017, 09:04:44 PM
As I said earlier we are both at the same level,it will be all on the day,and to be honest if roscommon win I don't think there will be much begrudgery in galway.still hoping for a galway win though!!

Ros are some way behind Galway.They did nothing since last year''s drawn match.

The all the more reason I'd be afraid of Roscommon this year. The last couple of years they played all their football from January to April - not this year!

Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 04, 2017, 02:36:48 PM

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 04, 2017, 09:01:31 AM
why isn't cathal and his twin brother Donie playing?
Ger Canning won't know what to do.

It will probably be Marty "they love their football in Roscommon" Morrissey commentating.  ::)

Well we do love it more than the salmon chasers..

The Galway to play Roscommon on Sunday in the Connacht Final shows two changes from the team that started against Mayo in the semi-final , Eoghan Kerin replaces David Wynne in defence while Eamon Brannigan comes in for   Sean Armstrong up front .

Ruairi Lavelle
Cathal Sweeney
Declan Kyne
Eoghan Kerin
Gary O'Donnell (Captain)
Gareth Bradshaw
Liam Silke
Fiontán Ó Curraoin
Paul Conroy
Thomas Flynn
Michael Daly
Johnny Heaney
Eamonn Brannigan
Damien Comer
Shane Walsh

Armstrong unless injured will start,I think you will find s.walsh the one not starting.'

Quote from: cornetto on July 05, 2017, 08:43:18 AM
The Galway to play Roscommon on Sunday in the Connacht Final shows two changes from the team that started against Mayo in the semi-final , Eoghan Kerin replaces David Wynne in defence while Eamon Brannigan comes in for   Sean Armstrong up front .

Ruairi Lavelle
Cathal Sweeney
Declan Kyne
Eoghan Kerin
Gary O'Donnell (Captain)
Gareth Bradshaw
Liam Silke
Fiontán Ó Curraoin
Paul Conroy
Thomas Flynn
Michael Daly
Johnny Heaney
Eamonn Brannigan
Damien Comer
Shane Walsh

Armstrong unless injured will start,I think you will find s.walsh the one not starting.'

I am surprised lavelle starts in goal again he was an accident waiting to happen the last day but surely couldnt be as bad again?
I expect brannigan will move out to wing forward with Heaney playing a deeper role, Heaney was excellent when ye beat us in FBD at start of the year

Quote from: cornetto on July 05, 2017, 08:43:18 AM
The Galway to play Roscommon on Sunday in the Connacht Final shows two changes from the team that started against Mayo in the semi-final , Eoghan Kerin replaces David Wynne in defence while Eamon Brannigan comes in for   Sean Armstrong up front .

Ruairi Lavelle
Cathal Sweeney
Declan Kyne
Eoghan Kerin
Gary O'Donnell (Captain)
Gareth Bradshaw
Liam Silke
Fiontán Ó Curraoin
Paul Conroy
Thomas Flynn
Michael Daly
Johnny Heaney
Eamonn Brannigan
Damien Comer
Shane Walsh

Armstrong unless injured will start,I think you will find s.walsh the one not starting.'

Walsh injured?

Well no,that's not a definite, he was being treated for a hamstring injury,it's just when I saw Armstrong omitted it didn't add up.

No surprise that Wynne is replaced but Armstrong is definitely a puzzler if fit, one of Galway's better players against Mayo.
Perhaps there will be a swap with Walsh as you've outlined cornetto which would make more sense.

Shane Walsh being dropped would make absolutely no sense. We're past that point. This team should be about getting the best of Comer, Walsh and Daly and fitting the rest around that.

I meant if he is injured as speculated. I would find a place for Armstrong as well though based on the Mayo match and the Kildare league final performances.

Sorry missed the injury. Agree with Armstrong. *shock* it looks as if it might be windy Sunday. Could be a big switch around based on the direction we're playing. Brannigan looks like his go to player against the wind. Could see Lundy too if its second half. With it, think we need to get our "shooters" such as Army, Conroy, Walsh, Daly, Heaney on as much ball as posssible.

Surprised Armstrong isn't starting unless it's due to injury. If he's fit I'm sure we'll see him along with Lundy, Sice and Cummins at some stage, we have serious options on the bench in the forward division, the same cover isn't there in defence though. Hopefullly Ruairí Lavelle leaves the defending to the backs this time  ::) Good to see Eoghan Kerin fit again, he must be fairly flying in training to make his first appearance of the year in a Connacht final!

Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 05, 2017, 11:31:03 AM
I meant if he is injured as speculated. I would find a place for Armstrong as well though based on the Mayo match and the Kildare league final performances.

If Armstrong is not injured he has to start and that is something I didn't think I would be typing this year!  I didn't think he had a whole lot to offer Galway by coming back but I am pleasantly surprised to be proved wrong as his recent form has been very good indeed. Good to see Kerin back also as he will add a bit more stability, which is badly needed, to that FB line!  Wynne wasn't really at the races against Mayo and was under pressure from a long way out in that game.   

Dying to see the Rossies in action. Will they be as motivated as their League attitude was not ? A cracking match would be good for both sides.

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Quote from: cornetto on July 05, 2017, 08:43:18 AM
The Galway to play Roscommon on Sunday in the Connacht Final shows two changes from the team that started against Mayo in the semi-final , Eoghan Kerin replaces David Wynne in defence while Eamon Brannigan comes in for   Sean Armstrong up front .

Ruairi Lavelle
Cathal Sweeney
Declan Kyne
Eoghan Kerin
Gary O'Donnell (Captain)
Gareth Bradshaw
Liam Silke
Fiontán Ó Curraoin
Paul Conroy
Thomas Flynn
Michael Daly
Johnny Heaney
Eamonn Brannigan
Damien Comer
Shane Walsh

Armstrong unless injured will start,I think you will find s.walsh the one not starting.'

I am surprised lavelle starts in goal again he was an accident waiting to happen the last day but surely couldnt be as bad again?
I expect brannigan will move out to wing forward with Heaney playing a deeper role, Heaney was excellent when ye beat us in FBD at start of the year

Might have something to do with Power the 2nd choice keeper a bigger accident waiting to happen. You will be correct about Brannigan,Heaney. The Galway strength in depth in their forward line and midfield is the best its been since 1998 to 2001 but goalkeeper,defence they are light on options

Problem for us is our defence is even poorer :-\

Quote from: Rossfan on July 05, 2017, 04:09:45 PM
Problem for us is our defence is even poorer :-\

True and it might be helped if it had a system or structure to it like Galways defence has but McStay is the manager and thinks he can get by as it is.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 05, 2017, 04:23:13 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 05, 2017, 04:09:45 PM
Problem for us is our defence is even poorer :-\

True and it might be helped if it had a system or structure to it like Galways defence has but McStay is the manager and thinks he can get by as it is.

What county are you from?

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Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 05, 2017, 04:23:13 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 05, 2017, 04:09:45 PM
Problem for us is our defence is even poorer :-\

True and it might be helped if it had a system or structure to it like Galways defence has but McStay is the manager and thinks he can get by as it is.

What county are you from?

What county i am from makes no difference to my accurate debate.

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Quote from: Syferus on July 05, 2017, 04:50:22 PM

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Quote from: Rossfan on July 05, 2017, 04:09:45 PM
Problem for us is our defence is even poorer :-\

True and it might be helped if it had a system or structure to it like Galways defence has but McStay is the manager and thinks he can get by as it is.

What county are you from?

What county i am from makes no difference to my accurate debate.

You're strangely unwilling to be up front about it.

Quote from: Duine Eile on July 05, 2017, 12:04:12 PM
Surprised Armstrong isn't starting unless it's due to injury. If he's fit I'm sure we'll see him along with Lundy, Sice and Cummins at some stage, we have serious options on the bench in the forward division, the same cover isn't there in defence though. Hopefullly Ruairí Lavelle leaves the defending to the backs this time  ::) Good to see Eoghan Kerin fit again, he must be fairly flying in training to make his first appearance of the year in a Connacht final!

I was surprised to see Kerin back on the bench against Mayo as had assumed he was out for the season, good to see him back as he adds a bit of pace to that full back line.

Like the others i didn't expect to be disappointed that Armstrong isn't starting, his free taking the last day was very impressive.

Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 05, 2017, 10:36:55 AM
No surprise that Wynne is replaced but Armstrong is definitely a puzzler if fit, one of Galway's better players against Mayo.
Perhaps there will be a swap with Walsh as you've outlined cornetto which would make more sense.

It looks like my theory on Shane Walsh has proved unfounded,
s armstrong  it seems was doing some work with his dad who is a builder and done in his back,it is hoped he will make the bench,but no guarantee.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 05, 2017, 05:11:16 PM

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Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 05, 2017, 04:23:13 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 05, 2017, 04:09:45 PM
Problem for us is our defence is even poorer :-\

True and it might be helped if it had a system or structure to it like Galways defence has but McStay is the manager and thinks he can get by as it is.

What county are you from?

What county i am from makes no difference to my accurate debate.

It does to Syferus, who's best debate is trying to run others down.

O'Sullivan the Kerry player was taking whey protein, pharmaton, pre fuel, caffeine gel, vitamin C and Krill oil magnesium. What sort of supplements do the Roscommon players take,apart from evening primrose oil ?

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Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 05, 2017, 05:11:16 PM

Quote from: Syferus on July 05, 2017, 04:50:22 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 05, 2017, 04:23:13 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 05, 2017, 04:09:45 PM
Problem for us is our defence is even poorer :-\

True and it might be helped if it had a system or structure to it like Galways defence has but McStay is the manager and thinks he can get by as it is.

What county are you from?

What county i am from makes no difference to my accurate debate.

It does to Syferus, who's best debate is trying to run others down.

Hardly. In fact I'm on of the few here who rarely attacks the man, and I'd have more reason to than most.

I'm amused by the collection of evasive accounts on here that are unwilling to even pin their colours to a county, be it Blowitup, Zulu, Cunny Funt or a few others. Doing that much isn't even a privacy concern so their motives must be something else. It runs counter to the very fabric of the GAA and the behaviour of the vast majority here. Hogan Stand seem to have a few similar accounts but they almost all fall under the banner of trolls and WUMs - the account here are a little more complex than that.

I like Syferus

Unless you know it or not you are one of the biggest WUMS on here Syferus and you even look for a cheap rise out of the few Sligo posters on here. What you say about Tyrone has a few of their posters hot under the collar and then hating Roscommon because of it. The well informed Roscommon posters or readers must cringe with what you post and worst of all you jump from forum to forum (Stolen-Sheep,Boards.ie,Hogan stand) take an opinion of someone else that you liked and use it as your own view.  Now enough of this nonsense and try sticking to the topic of the thread and don't be getting upset when someone posts an opinion you don't agree with.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 06, 2017, 02:38:44 PM
Unless you know it or not you are one of the biggest WUMS on here Syferus and you even look for a cheap rise out of the few Sligo posters on here. What you say about Tyrone has a few of their posters hot under the collar and then hating Roscommon because of it. The well informed Roscommon posters or readers must cringe with what you post and worst of all you jump from forum to forum (Stolen-Sheep,Boards.ie,Hogan stand) take an opinion of someone else that you liked and use it as your own view.  Now enough of this nonsense and try sticking to the topic of the thread and don't be getting upset when someone posts an opinion you don't agree with.

I'm not even on Hogan Stand, nor was me pointing out the folly of thinking Sligo might beat Meath at senior or Galway at minor WUMing - it's simply my opinion. I don't give two hoots if some lad on the internet is mad over it, or thinks I'm right. If I cared what you and others think I'd be in some state at this stage.

All I asked is a simple question - what county are you? It's not the big deal you've clearly made it into.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 06, 2017, 02:38:44 PM
Unless you know it or not you are one of the biggest WUMS on here Syferus and you even look for a cheap rise out of the few Sligo posters on here. What you say about Tyrone has a few of their posters hot under the collar and then hating Roscommon because of it. The well informed Roscommon posters or readers must cringe with what you post and worst of all you jump from forum to forum (Stolen-Sheep,Boards.ie,Hogan stand) take an opinion of someone else that you liked and use it as your own view.  Now enough of this nonsense and try sticking to the topic of the thread and don't be getting upset when someone posts an opinion you don't agree with.

He has moved on to taking digs at Sligo posters now because that's the level they're in, where once his mantra was calling out the big boys it reduced him to a figure of pity and ridicule given the huge gulf Roscommon have shown between them and the top teams.

Don't worry, he'll be on here with his sour grapes next week trying to belittle Galway for convincingly beating them, he has bucket loads of bitterness and begrudgery in him.

Would syf be suitable for sledgeing like you tyrone bucks do ill desperate dan, I dont think he is dirty enough.

I don't think Syf is a bad lad - seems alright to me.

Back on topic- a few good preview podcasts of the Connacht final - GAA Hour with Padraic Joyce and then Ray Silke and Nigel Dineen on Newstalk.

https://soundcloud.com/sportsjoe-gaa-hour/padraig-joyce-on-the-connaught-final-and-banty-mcenaney-facing-monaghan

Quote from: giveballaghback on July 06, 2017, 10:12:40 PM
Would syf be suitable for sledgeing like you tyrone bucks do ill desperate dan, I dont think he is dirty enough.

One thing I know is he doesn't have the balls to revisit his claims, nothing worse than a lad who can't stand behind what he says. He's the type of chap who'd be all for sledging and have a flippant attitude to it if his guys were engaging in it but would position themselves as a moral guardian of the game if they weren't.

With Roscommon being so desperate, it's great to laugh at his plight.

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Quote from: giveballaghback on July 06, 2017, 10:12:40 PM
Would syf be suitable for sledgeing like you tyrone bucks do ill desperate dan, I dont think he is dirty enough.

One thing I know is he doesn't have the balls to revisit his claims, nothing worse than a lad who can't stand behind what he says. He's the type of chap who'd be all for sledging and have a flippant attitude to it if his guys were engaging in it but would position themselves as a moral guardian of the game if they weren't.

With Roscommon being so desperate, it's great to laugh at his plight.

desperate?
what are they desperate for?

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Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 07, 2017, 06:57:17 AM

Quote from: giveballaghback on July 06, 2017, 10:12:40 PM
Would syf be suitable for sledgeing like you tyrone bucks do ill desperate dan, I dont think he is dirty enough.

One thing I know is he doesn't have the balls to revisit his claims, nothing worse than a lad who can't stand behind what he says. He's the type of chap who'd be all for sledging and have a flippant attitude to it if his guys were engaging in it but would position themselves as a moral guardian of the game if they weren't.

With Roscommon being so desperate, it's great to laugh at his plight.

desperate?
what are they desperate for?

They are desperate at football.

You know a county is in bad shape when Bomber turns up to troubleshoot. "Get your tongue out of my mouth. I'm kissing you goodbye. "

Syf is a good man. Stands by what he says.
Would like him beside me going into battle

Quote from: Taylor on July 07, 2017, 01:49:42 PM
Syf is a good man. Stands by what he says.
Would like him beside me going into battle

Good Christ....

Quote from: Taylor on July 07, 2017, 01:49:42 PM
Syf is a good man. Stands by what he says.
Would like him beside me going into battle

Hello Syferus.

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Quote from: Taylor on July 07, 2017, 01:49:42 PM
Syf is a good man. Stands by what he says.
Would like him beside me going into battle

Hello Syferus.

Nice to know I play on your mind so much that you see me everywhere.

Quote from: seafoid on July 07, 2017, 01:38:08 PM
You know a county is in bad shape when Bomber turns up to troubleshoot. "Get your tongue out of my mouth. I'm kissing you goodbye. "

O.......................................................................................K

The biggest aspect where I'd like to see improvement is on the kickouts, there's certainly rooms for improvement on our own and I'd like to think they'll do a better job of stopping Roscommon getting so many short ones away then they did on Mayo.

According to Parkinson Leitrim had 9 marks against Roscommon who only had 3 so its obvious where Roscommon have a problem.

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 07, 2017, 06:14:33 PM
The biggest aspect where I'd like to see improvement is on the kickouts, there's certainly rooms for improvement on our own and I'd like to think they'll do a better job of stopping Roscommon getting so many short ones away then they did on Mayo.

According to Parkinson Leitrim had 9 marks against Roscommon who only had 3 so its obvious where Roscommon have a problem.

We cleaned them out at midfield. Enda Smith was our MotM ffs.

We didn't need to kick long half the time because Leitrim had dropped two sweepers back meaning Lavin's job was especially easy. It also allowed Dev to have an absolute field day going forward.

You know another team that's terrified of its defence and won't mark up on all backs, Manc? Galway..

Galway's to lose.
Sure they only have to turn up really.
Their 2 big lumps at midfield plus Conroy will clean out our 2 22 year old gasúiníns and Enda along with them.
Our porous defence will be chasing shadows as Walsh, Daly Comer etc all run up a cricket score.
And the sensible John Tobin says Galway could win Sam.

I'll go for the day out anyway as I like to sit in a traffic jam once a year.

But wouldn't it be only mighty if we stuffed the hoors😲

Quote from: Rossfan on July 07, 2017, 06:31:37 PM
Galway's to lose.
Sure they only have to turn up really.
Their 2 big lumps at midfield plus Conroy will clean out our 2 22 year old gasúiníns and Enda along with them.
Our porous defence will be chasing shadows as Walsh, Daly Comer etc all run up a cricket score.
And the sensible John Tobin says Galway could win Sam.

I'll go for the day out anyway as I like to sit in a traffic jam once a year.

But wouldn't it be only mighty if we stuffed the hoors😲

Tobin might be baked from spending so many years working beside JP.

Quote from: Rossfan on July 07, 2017, 06:31:37 PM
Galway's to lose.
Sure they only have to turn up really.
Their 2 big lumps at midfield plus Conroy will clean out our 2 22 year old gasúiníns and Enda along with them.
Our porous defence will be chasing shadows as Walsh, Daly Comer etc all run up a cricket score.
And the sensible John Tobin says Galway could win Sam.

I'll go for the day out anyway as I like to sit in a traffic jam once a year.

But wouldn't it be only mighty if we stuffed the hoors😲

Galway have been shite for years. Why would they suddenly be great?

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Galway have been shite for years. Why would they suddenly be great?
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Bet Mayowestros 2 years in a row
Promoted to Div 1.
Connacht Champions 2016 first time in almost a decade
Missing players back

Quote from: Rossfan on July 07, 2017, 09:04:11 PM

Quote from: seafoid on July 07, 2017, 07:45:26 PM
Galway have been shite for years. Why would they suddenly be great?

Bet Mayowestros 2 years in a row
Promoted to Div 1.
Connacht Champions 2016 first time in almost a decade
Missing players back

Armstrong's injury isn't that bad, surely?

Quote from: Rossfan on July 07, 2017, 09:04:11 PM

Quote from: seafoid on July 07, 2017, 07:45:26 PM

Galway have been shite for years. Why would they suddenly be great?

Bet Mayowestros 2 years in a row
Promoted to Div 1.
Connacht Champions 2016 first time in almost a decade
Missing players back
[/quote]Ros have a better 5yr average

Peter Cavavan one of the few pundits that has a slight fancy for Roscommon to cause upset this Sunday.

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It seems I give Roscommon more of a chance in the Connacht final against Galway this weekend than most.

I have seen many of their players at U-21 level over the last number of years and they have impressed me. Diarmuid Murtagh is fit again and he is an excellent player.

Last year they didn't seem to be certain what type of game they were trying to play.

They had a rough winter with friction in the camp. And while they shipped some heavy defeats in Division One, I think Kevin McStay's idea of how he wants the game to be played will start to show.

They are now clearly intent on playing a more attacking brand of football. Admittedly, it's hard to know exactly how far they have come on the basis of the facile victory over Leitrim but you can't argue with the 2-23 they racked up.

It's a dangerous game for Galway. They are expected to win and it can be hard to ignore that sort of talk.

Just ask Monaghan. They were tipped to deal with Down and got turned over. Now they have to go and fight for their lives against 'Banty' in Wexford.

I also have the impression that while Galway are undoubtedly talented, they can still go to sleep. Their forwards look exceptional and in a year's time, after they have had a season in the top flight, we'll know exactly how good they can be.

As they showed last year against Tipperary, they can get themselves into the wrong frame of mind.

When the draw for the Connacht championship was made many suggested the Galway-Mayo clash was the real final.

This is one party the Rossies would love to spoil. Galway, take note.

A good piece by canavan,there is no doubt their is an air of confidence in galway supporters at least, that they should be winning this one (myself included).It has all the hallmarks of gal/mayo last year,Ross have been gearing towards this,no disrespect to leitrim since the draw was made,it was only a question of galway or mayo.So who knows, hopefully galway learned from tipp last year,they cannot afford to take anyone for granted,Ross on the other hand have their div 1 experience and hurt from last year to drive them on.it's going to be close!!

Rain im afraid is forecast for the morning hopefully cleared up by match time,bring your raincoat!!

And no doubt there will be a strong wind and no parking and traffic chaos and.........

Rossfan

We seem to have moved on in Roscommon minds from a Rhubarb regime to a Heron choker system. Why would Rossies not contest this? Or was last year definitive?

Ah sure we might give it an oul try ;)

Even though Syferus is enough to make me cheer for the heron chokers I'll stick to my usual form and wish the Roosies the best of luck.

Hope the conditions in salthill allow for a free flowing game.( maybe wishful thinking). The rosses backs need the game of their lives and we need to break even at midfield to have a chance. Hoping for belter of a game. Best a luck to the ross players! Up the Ros!

Lovely morning in Ballagh anyway but rain forecast for later in the day. Time to face the traffic. If our forwards are on song, hopeful of a surprise.

Sunshine in salthill,little or no wind,
let's hope them scantily clad, weather ladies have got it wrong!!

Correction, now 10am cloud is thickening fast!!

Safe travelling to the Rossies.

Hopefully the drawn game last year is thick in Galway's mind and we produce a performance that a Connacht final deserves. 
I wouldn't be surprised to see a late change to galway team and a free taker start. Mike Meehan maybe? Probably more than likely side or McHugh.

Anyone expecting anything but rain in Salthill hasn't been to many matches in Salthill..

Here's hoping that the showcase day of Connacht football is a belter of a game. Safe travelling to all.

Rossies were out balls and all last year for early league and faded badly for summer. Have done little so far this year except put a big score on Leitrim so should be primed for today, how good that is we will see. Get feeling that no matter how good Galway are on the front foot their defence will always leave the door open at the other end. Think Galway by 3/4 but basing that more on not knowing what the Rossies have to offer.

Salthill is buzzing lots of colour and no RAIN roscommon have travelled in numbers,let everyone enjoy the day.As I said earlier a rossie win wouldn't be the end of the world for galway,no more than ourselves they have not had a whole lot to cheer about.

Quote from: Syferus on July 09, 2017, 10:05:17 AM
Anyone expecting anything but rain in Salthill hasn't been to many matches in Salthill..

Salthill.also has 99s, candyfloss, buckets, spades, wind, the prom, hurdy gurdies and nordies on holiday.

Brilliant start for Roscommon. Similarities with 2010, Walsh has not learnt

Roscommon on fire here in the middle of the field, however, they could rue those run of wides. Could have the game more or less wrapped up if they got two or three of them.

In Tuam the lead might only be 3 points. Have Ros the cuteness to win the second half ?

2 points scored in 30 mins for Galway and Roscommon kicked a lot of wides.

Tommy Carr-like a fukn fly buzzing around yer head that ya can't swat

Not to state the obvious but the somewhat easy chances that Rossies missed maycome back to haunt them
I don't think Galway #10 Flynn has literally touched the ball.
I can see Comer picking up a second yellow in second half

Galway are leaderless. Forwards trying to do everything on their own and they have kicked some horrible wides.

H-t  Ros 1-7 Gal 0-3

Were Galway playing into the Wind Tunnel first half then?

Galway fast start but Roscoomon smash the ball to the net!! 2-08 to 0-05. Make sure the defibrillator doesn't leave Syferus' side!

A score of some description was badly needed there for Ros, just to break the Galway momentum.

Roscommon shooting is dreadful. Should be out of sight.

Shane Walsh is a rolls-royce of a player but he needs to pull his socks down.

Roscommon are better coached team.

Savage stuff from Ros, hope they can hold out

The Rossies need to push on now.
If they try to play keep ball on a wet, slippy day they'll leave themselves exposed to a counter-attack.
One more point is all they need.

Rossies full of beans, Galway look out on their feet.
Bit of a schmozzle now.

Comer should have got straight red there

Well. That's a turn up for the books. Congrats to the Rossies.

Fair play Ros, convincing win and it should have been by more.

Far too much hype about Galway, and they seem to have bought into it themselves. Good win over Mayo but they don't look able to do that consistently.

That's a serious hammering for Galway.

Donegal licking their chops I'd say.

Well done Roscommon!

Galway have been shocking today.

I'm delighted for McStay after all the abuse he got.

Wonder how Gay Sheering is feeling now?

Nearly 74 minues gone until the board for added minutes come up. Shambles!

Quote from: clarshack on July 09, 2017, 03:32:11 PM
Galway have been shocking today.

That's because Galway are shocking.

Quote from: Jinxy on July 09, 2017, 03:32:14 PM
I'm delighted for McStay after all the abuse he got.

I agree. He got his tactics spot on today and out coached Kevin Walsh on the sideline. Also fair play to ref for having the guts to send off the 2 Galway players compared to the ref last night bottling giving a red card

No Galway score for about 25 minutes, that's woeful.

I'd be surprised if the Roscommon captain doesn't dedicate the win to Syferus.

Well done to the Rossies, thoroughly deserved on the day, we were a shambles, too many of our lads with their heads up their holes, disgusted with our display. Will see what KW is made of now in how he circles the wagon for a possible Donegal match.  Congrats to Ros again, deserving Conn champs for 2017.

This is some rout. I heard Walsh after the league final and he was talking about how they were getting closer to Dublin, serious notions.
Happy for McStay

Well done to the Rossies, a thoroughly deserved victory.

Roscommon never fear Galway
never

Well done Roscommon.Well deserved.Hopefully this win will keep Syfin off the Mayo threads for a while :) :)

Slow motion pitch invasions don't look good. Fair play Roscommon great win. Mc stay was savaged by many.

Tomorrow would not be a good day to get a hair-cut from Paddy Joe.

Is that Galway v Donegal now?

Diarmuid Murtagh ankle ligaments at a minimum I reckon. Will do well to make the 1/4s.

 :o :o
Wasnt expected that fair, play to the Rossies

Walsh was talking big after the Mayo win....big setback esp considering the scoreboard

Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on July 09, 2017, 03:36:15 PM
Well done to the Rossies, thoroughly deserved on the day, we were a shambles, too many of our lads with their heads up their holes, disgusted with our display. Will see what KW is made of now in how he circles the wagon for a possible Donegal match.  Congrats to Ros again, deserving Conn champs for 2017.

Was as bad a performance as the Tipp game last year. Maybe worse in some ways. Completely inexplicable. I think the rot started from the keeper and full-back line though and the indecision spread throughout the team from there. Like in rugby you won't win anything without a strong set-piece and Galway's basics here were absolutely diabolical on the day.

Kevin Walsh is building himself a very odd CV. Two successive wins over Mayo and Division 2 champions along with two of the worst Galway performances I've ever seen. Complete Jekyll and Hyde stuff.

You'll know their names now

Congrats to the Rossies on here even Syferus who wasn't  feeling too confident before the game.

Galway fans saw the Kevin Walsh Sligo fans were critical of after 2010 final. Overconfident, arrogant even. Again didn't play defensively when against a gale force wind in the first half and didn't react in time to close down the space in front of the full forward line. Roscommon were excellent. Enda smyth produced the performance of the year. Their defence looked shaky at times but managed not to concede a goal. Some future ahead for them if they can keep these lads on board and get some of injured and other players back.

Quote from: Syferus on July 09, 2017, 03:57:00 PM
You'll know their names now

donie shine had a great game

Well done Ross, a thoroughly deserved victory. No question about it, the better team won.

Rossies could have beaten us by 15 pts if they had there scoring boots on,would love to be able to say galway didn't turn,in fairness roscommon didn't allow any momentum to be built up and fought for every ball,galway just not at the races.

Quote from: cornetto on July 09, 2017, 04:22:12 PM
Rossies could have beaten us by 15 pts if they had there scoring boots on,would love to be able to say galway didn't turn,in fairness roscommon didn't allow any momentum to be built up and fought for every ball,galway just not at the races.

Don't worry - the Galway lads will all be attending the races this year!

Quote from: cornetto on July 09, 2017, 04:22:12 PM
Rossies could have beaten us by 15 pts if they had there scoring boots on,would love to be able to say galway didn't turn,in fairness roscommon didn't allow any momentum to be built up and fought for every ball,galway just not at the races.

When your loosing 50:50 challenges to the extent that we were, you get what you deserve and we got it - truth be told, Ros should have been out the gate at HT.  Right now, it feels much worse than the Tipp losss last year..........

Well done Roscommon. We can have no complaints. Roscommon not only out fought us today but outplayed us too.
I wouldn't even say we underestimated Roscommon more so we overestimated ourselves. Fair play to Shane Walsh he really put a shift in when not many else were.
I don't think we can just point to our full back line, plenty of lads out there didn't show up. We really do need a  full back. People have been shouting about Lundy and Cummins should be starting. I think we saw where they are today.

Only positive is this year we have a chance straight away to turn it around. Walsh has us beating mayo twice in a row, and also into division one. I think he's the man who will hopefully light a few fires between now and Donegal.

Better now to get found out and make some changes rather than wait until we are knocked out. At least we've a second chance

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Syferus!

Enda Smyth woof, great performance.

Well done Rossies and McStay. Maybe all the "experts" in the county and those players who thought they were bigger than the county will slink back under whatever rock they crawled out from. Roscommon need to be united and respect the management put in place. Theyhave a day in Croke Park now with the opportunity of kicking on to a semi final.

Not saying Galway would have won, but there was never much between these two.  The Mayo game for Galway is one of those that you take with a pinch of salt.  Galway are no bad team but with little between them and Roscommon the complacency factor was always going to come into play.

What can you say but wow - that was a performance that slots straight into the best days in Roscommon footballing history. To win, to actually hammer Galway in Salthill, would scarcely have seemed possible a couple months ago.

All the talk in the county was of everyone who was missing, how McStay had judged it wrong demanding commitment from players and cutting a lot of experienced names before we even get to the ones who opted out for other reasons. Add in injuries to starters in Ultan Harney and Cathal Compton and further injuries to important players like Ciaran Caffereky, Fergal Lennon, Kevin Higgins and Thomas Corcoran and the panel looked threadbare heading into this one. Our starting line-up amounted to fielding an U23 team - even in this day and age it is a very young starting 15.

But that performance against Leitrim and the general mood radiating from the panel was showing it was far more settled than it was last year. The panel was lighter but it was tighter. That was the intention of McStay all along. Everyone who had any love for Roscommon should be thanking McStay tonight. He took a massive risk and took incredible abuse in the process but he has delivered a win and a title that won't be forgotten by any Roscomonn man, woman or child.

It's hard to pick out players on a day like this - everyone did their part and that was the magic of it. The tackling, the tracking back, the things that would always go missing at crucial moments in years past were all spot on today.

Enda Smith was a man apart today, he caught the sort of ball no player in the country would have a right to, and he is so magnificent running with the ball. He annouced himself to the country today. Diarmuid was as assured as ever up front. Connolly's goal was wonderful, as was his contribution winning ball and shooting. Devanney killed Galway off at the end with some fantastic scores. At the back John Mac, a lad who was on the receiving end of such abuse by his own supporters over the years, marked Flynn out of the game entirely and rooted out so many balls. Likewise Niall Kilroy was much maligned but he delivered everything we needed from a sweeper today. Comer was kept very quiet overall by Niall Mc. A special word for Brian Stack - pretty much a teenager and he played today like a veteran. The confidence and skill to take his goal will live long in the memory, but his all-round play was superb. Seanie has battled for 15 seasons and 165 caps before he finally, finally got a championship win over one of the big two. He is one of the greatest servants to Roscommon football in history and no one deserves this more than he did.

The bench too - Ian Kilbride (his first Connacht title at the age of 34) came on and steadied us, Donie came on when we lost our talisman in Diarmuid and didn't miss a beat, Kiloran came on and scored a beauty at the end too.

I honestly don't care what happens next. This year is already a great one for Roscommon. Jimmy, Dermot and Gerry will be smiling tonight.

If Mayo and Galway both win next day out how does the QF draw work? I'm assuming that would leave it as Kerry v Galway and Roscommon v Mayo?

Time to end the farce beat Leitrim your in the last 12,beat Galway last 8.

Will Gay Sheerin be making a public apology to McStay?
I tipped Ros - they were keeping very quiet, even Liam McHale kept his mouth shut!
Thought they'd have to be at their very best, but Galway were so complacent that they didn't need to be.
Hopefully Galway beat Donegal and see up a Mayo v Ros q-final ;-)

Quote from: Tubberman on July 09, 2017, 06:06:16 PM
Will Gay Sheerin be making a public apology to McStay?
I tipped Ros - they were keeping very quiet, even Liam McHale kept his mouth shut!
Thought they'd have to be at their very best, but Galway were so complacent that they didn't need to be.
Hopefully Galway beat Donegal and see up a Mayo v Ros q-final ;-)

We were all giving him dirty looks on the pitch after the match. He didn't look too comfortable alright.

Well done Roscommmon, a dominant display. I thought when Galway picked things up after half time a collapse was enevitable (probably too used to watching bloody cavan) but fair play they stood up and closed the game out with some top scores.

Quote from: ballinaman on July 09, 2017, 03:50:23 PM
Diarmuid Murtagh ankle ligaments at a minimum I reckon. Will do well to make the 1/4s.

Lads on SS were talking to him after the match and he said there was no significant damage and he should be fine for the AIQF. Just makes a great day a little better to know he's ok, he's obviously a big player for us.

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No, I think you hit the nail on the head there. I'm a Rossie living in Galway and everybody from work colleagues down to the local (and national) media where signing Galways praises. It was just a matter of turning up and collecting their cup. The winning score line was going to be a cricket score. Confidence is all good and well but there was no humitily or even the usual GAA attempt at talking up the opposition, Ala Jim Gavin and Carlow/Westmeath for example. It was just smug condescending arrogance by and large from Galway and they got their answer today. Read the Tuam Hearld's piece for example....

That HAD to feed down to the players and it showed in their attitude today. That's not to take away from Roscommon's efforts, they were immence and fully deserving of their win. But Galway could have been, and are, a lot better than today's efforts.

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Quote from: DJGaliv on July 09, 2017, 04:51:47 PMI wouldn't even say we underestimated Roscommon.....

No, I think you hit the nail on the head there. I'm a Rossie living in Galway and everybody from work colleagues down to the local (and national) media where signing Galways praises. It was just a matter of turning up and collecting their cup. The winning score line was going to be a cricket score. Confidence is all good and well but there was no humitily or even the usual GAA attempt at talking up the opposition, Ala Jim Gavin and Carlow/Westmeath for example. It was just smug condescending arrogance by and large from Galway and they got their answer today. Read the Tuam Hearld's piece for example....

That HAD to feed down to the players and it showed in their attitude today. That's not to take away from Roscommon's efforts, they were immence and fully deserving of their win. But Galway could have been, and are, a lot better than today's efforts.

Galway are the most over-rated team in the country.

What have they achieved to date?

Very very little when you examine the evidence. Galway have achieved absolutely nothing in the last decade to consider themselves a foregone conclusion against anything other then a Div 3/4 side.

Still living off the back of Padraig Joyce, Donnellan , Mannion and the great players they once had

Delighted for the Rossies but any of the usual gang that I know travelled in hope rather than confidence. They are in Croke Park now and should go up united. Sheerin and co should accept that McStay has delivered a Connacht title, football in August and a great boost to the county

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Delighted for the Rossies but any of the usual gang that I know travelled in hope rather than confidence. They are in Croke Park now and should go up united. Sheerin and co should accept that McStay has delivered a Connacht title, football in August and a great boost to the county

July 29th tends not to be in August..

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Quote from: DJGaliv on July 09, 2017, 04:51:47 PMI wouldn't even say we underestimated Roscommon.....

No, I think you hit the nail on the head there. I'm a Rossie living in Galway and everybody from work colleagues down to the local (and national) media where signing Galways praises. It was just a matter of turning up and collecting their cup. The winning score line was going to be a cricket score. Confidence is all good and well but there was no humitily or even the usual GAA attempt at talking up the opposition, Ala Jim Gavin and Carlow/Westmeath for example. It was just smug condescending arrogance by and large from Galway and they got their answer today. Read the Tuam Hearld's piece for example....

That HAD to feed down to the players and it showed in their attitude today. That's not to take away from Roscommon's efforts, they were immence and fully deserving of their win. But Galway could have been, and are, a lot better than today's efforts.

Galway are the most over-rated team in the country.

What have they achieved to date?

Very very little when you examine the evidence. Galway have achieved absolutely nothing in the last decade to consider themselves a foregone conclusion against anything other then a Div 3/4 side.

Still living off the back of Padraig Joyce, Donnellan , Mannion and the great players they once had

That's a bit harsh! Galway have been looking to get back to some level of competitiveness for the last 10 years. Once you fall out of the loop it's hard to get back in again. You say what have they achieved. Well they have beaten a still decent Mayo team in Championship the last two years. They have got into Division One and they have won a Connacht title. They are not the real deal. But they have made progress and have put themselves to be in the position to make progress. I know this may be hard for a person from Dublin to appreciate with all the advantages that go with the Dublin County and Club scene.

Congrats to Roscommon, powerful performance and worth every single one of their 9 points margin, beaten out the gate on our own patch, it doesn't get much worse than that.
I would have to watch the full match back again but while I'm not at all shocked that Roscommon won, their whole year was built on being right for today and they are certainly that, it was terrible from Galway, a far, FAR worse result and performance than the Tipp game last year. f**k knows where they go from here, the realistic goal for the year is gone.
The scenes at the end were very distasteful and although I didn't see it start you'd have to assume that the full blame is with Galway, not much good at that stage to be throwing themselves about the place.

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Congrats to Roscommon, powerful performance and worth every single one of their 9 points margin, beaten out the gate on our own patch, it doesn't get much worse than that.
I would have to watch the full match back again but while I'm not at all shocked that Roscommon won, their whole year was built on being right for today and they are certainly that, it was terrible from Galway, a far, FAR worse result and performance than the Tipp game last year. f**k knows where they go from here, the realistic goal for the year is gone.
The scenes at the end were very distasteful and although I didn't see it start you'd have to assume that the full blame is with Galway, not much good at that stage to be throwing themselves about the place.

It was a pity alright. We took our beating last year without getting into a brawl at the end - Comer was swinging fists mad and is very lucky not to have got a straight red.

That said, Galway supporters after the match were very magnanimous and congratulatory in defeat so all wasn't lost. Would be nice to see all three Connacht teams in the AIQFs.

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Quote from: DJGaliv on July 09, 2017, 04:51:47 PMI wouldn't even say we underestimated Roscommon.....

No, I think you hit the nail on the head there. I'm a Rossie living in Galway and everybody from work colleagues down to the local (and national) media where signing Galways praises. It was just a matter of turning up and collecting their cup. The winning score line was going to be a cricket score. Confidence is all good and well but there was no humitily or even the usual GAA attempt at talking up the opposition, Ala Jim Gavin and Carlow/Westmeath for example. It was just smug condescending arrogance by and large from Galway and they got their answer today. Read the Tuam Hearld's piece for example....

That HAD to feed down to the players and it showed in their attitude today. That's not to take away from Roscommon's efforts, they were immence and fully deserving of their win. But Galway could have been, and are, a lot better than today's efforts.

I think it's doing a disservice to Roscommon to say galway underestimated them. They would have known from last years draw and the fact Roscommon have been playing division 1 football that it was a proper Connacht final.

Galway just didn't have the fight. I think this idea that Galway underestimated them gives our lads an easy out. Because if we played ye again next week I don't think the result would change.

We've known for a while we have a poor kick out strategy, our full back line is not fantastic and our half back line is porous enough. No Gaelic football supporter with any knowledge of the game would say it was a foregone conclusion. I don't think real Galway fans totally trust this team but thought that after beating mayo we'd learn from it and maybe win by 3 points.

I'll give you the media though, maybe our highlights reel with Shane Walsh making a donnellanssque run and Michael Daly popping a point makes us look better than we are to the casual observer. Our highlight reel obviously doesn't include some  junior defending that we are capable of.

Fair play to Roscommon they fully deserved their win. Was some pass for that goal in the first half

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Diarmuid Murtagh ankle ligaments at a minimum I reckon. Will do well to make the 1/4s.

Lads on SS were talking to him after the match and he said there was no significant damage and he should be fine for the AIQF. Just makes a great day a little better to know he's ok, he's obviously a big player for us.

He is blessed. Looked very nasty. Quality player

Superb stuff from the Rossies this afternoon. Showed just a glimpse of the huge potential and talent that is within this Roscommon group. Galway weren't let play their normal game they were out fought and out thought all over the field today and the Galway weakness of their goalkeeper and full back line was exploited and but for the 9 Roscommon wides that contest would have been over at Half time.

The after match celebrations showed what a provincial title means to a county like Roscommon and it would be a terrible shame if the provincials championships we scrapped.

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Quote from: DJGaliv on July 09, 2017, 04:51:47 PMI wouldn't even say we underestimated Roscommon.....

No, I think you hit the nail on the head there. I'm a Rossie living in Galway and everybody from work colleagues down to the local (and national) media where signing Galways praises. It was just a matter of turning up and collecting their cup. The winning score line was going to be a cricket score. Confidence is all good and well but there was no humitily or even the usual GAA attempt at talking up the opposition, Ala Jim Gavin and Carlow/Westmeath for example. It was just smug condescending arrogance by and large from Galway and they got their answer today. Read the Tuam Hearld's piece for example....

That HAD to feed down to the players and it showed in their attitude today. That's not to take away from Roscommon's efforts, they were immence and fully deserving of their win. But Galway could have been, and are, a lot better than today's efforts.

Galway are the most over-rated team in the country.

What have they achieved to date?

Very very little when you examine the evidence. Galway have achieved absolutely nothing in the last decade to consider themselves a foregone conclusion against anything other then a Div 3/4 side.

Still living off the back of Padraig Joyce, Donnellan , Mannion and the great players they once had

That's a bit harsh! Galway have been looking to get back to some level of competitiveness for the last 10 years. Once you fall out of the loop it's hard to get back in again. You say what have they achieved. Well they have beaten a still decent Mayo team in Championship the last two years. They have got into Division One and they have won a Connacht title. They are not the real deal. But they have made progress and have put themselves to be in the position to make progress. I know this may be hard for a person from Dublin to appreciate with all the advantages that go with the Dublin County and Club scene.

Galway is one of the premier GAA counties with stacks of cash behind them.

Problem is they don't deliver on the big day anymore a we saw against Tipperary last year.

It's got nothing to do with appreciating anything. Its'called delivery of performance

Ross were best today no doubt,galways inadequacies shown up quiet dramatically,who is to blame is for another day.even though at the match was too far away to see the flare up at the end, ah it was unnescessary in an otherwise entaining match.am licking my wounds tonight after a few Guinness!!

Decent game today, Roscommon played some nice football.

Galway were really disappointing, Roscommon got into them from the start and you could see Galway didn't really fancy it, their defence is really lightweight and I felt they were pathetic when they game was in the melting pot in the last 15 minutes or so.

Mayo will beat them convincingly if they meet in the qaurters, Donegal are beatable as they're really struggling now but I think it will be tough for them with the gap between the games and having to come back down to earth.

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seafoid has gone missing! Probably has gone looking for a music track to show how he is feeling.  ;)

I didn't see it coming matter of fact i had this game to be tight with Galway to win a few points. Roscommon were truly outstanding and on the day were over 12 points the better team than a shell-shocked Galway.

McStay shipped his fair share amount of criticism but he and his management team really did the business in this final, homework done on their opposition and simply put Galway had no answer to their game plan and spot on tactics. The talented footballers was never in question in Roscommon anyone that follows underage or college football would know this but what made todays win all the more remarkable was they won at ease without so many top quality players like Neill Collins,Niall Daly,Ultan Harney and Conor Daly,David Keenan etc

As for Galway it about getting back on the horse after their fall today. They have beaten Mayo twice in the championship,won their first Connacht title in 8 years last summer and finally got promoted back to Div 1 that is big progress from where they were. Like Roscommon they are a young team with plenty of potential and loads of room for improvement which i believe both will do in the years ahead.

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Quote from: Ryano on July 09, 2017, 07:51:10 PM

Quote from: DJGaliv on July 09, 2017, 04:51:47 PMI wouldn't even say we underestimated Roscommon.....

No, I think you hit the nail on the head there. I'm a Rossie living in Galway and everybody from work colleagues down to the local (and national) media where signing Galways praises. It was just a matter of turning up and collecting their cup. The winning score line was going to be a cricket score. Confidence is all good and well but there was no humitily or even the usual GAA attempt at talking up the opposition, Ala Jim Gavin and Carlow/Westmeath for example. It was just smug condescending arrogance by and large from Galway and they got their answer today. Read the Tuam Hearld's piece for example....

That HAD to feed down to the players and it showed in their attitude today. That's not to take away from Roscommon's efforts, they were immence and fully deserving of their win. But Galway could have been, and are, a lot better than today's efforts.

Galway are the most over-rated team in the country.

What have they achieved to date?

Very very little when you examine the evidence. Galway have achieved absolutely nothing in the last decade to consider themselves a foregone conclusion against anything other then a Div 3/4 side.

Still living off the back of Padraig Joyce, Donnellan , Mannion and the great players they once had

That's a bit harsh! Galway have been looking to get back to some level of competitiveness for the last 10 years. Once you fall out of the loop it's hard to get back in again. You say what have they achieved. Well they have beaten a still decent Mayo team in Championship the last two years. They have got into Division One and they have won a Connacht title. They are not the real deal. But they have made progress and have put themselves to be in the position to make progress. I know this may be hard for a person from Dublin to appreciate with all the advantages that go with the Dublin County and Club scene.

Galway is one of the premier GAA counties with stacks of cash behind them.

Problem is they don't deliver on the big day anymore a we saw against Tipperary last year.

It's got nothing to do with appreciating anything. Its'called delivery of performance

They're hocked up to their necks in debt, thanks to the the Mountain South escapade.

Terrible, terrible performance once again from Galway; all their average players managed to coincide their poor performances altogether for some reason. Not good when 2 of the more praised players v Mayo, Brannigan and Heaney, were hooked at ht. FB a shambles, Flynn not close to county standard, GOD not close to county standard defender. Goalie out of his depth but not helped when his short kickouts were stupidly spilled by the receivers.

On this display, defeat v Donegal is inevitable (who will pick up Michael Murphy?). Will KW stay on then or does he really have to walk? For a third year in succession we've shipped a c'ship defeat of nearly a 10-point margin.

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I didn't see it coming matter of fact i had this game to be tight with Galway to win a few points. Roscommon were truly outstanding and on the day were over 12 points the better team than a shell-shocked Galway.

McStay shipped his fair share amount of criticism but he and his management team really did the business in this final, homework done on their opposition and simply put Galway had no answer to their game plan and spot on tactics. The talented footballers was never in question in Roscommon anyone that follows underage or college football would know this but what made todays win all the more remarkable was they won at ease without so many top quality players like Neill Collins,Niall Daly,Ultan Harney and Conor Daly,David Keenan etc

As for Galway it about getting back on the horse after their fall today. They have beaten Mayo twice in the championship,won their first Connacht title in 8 years last summer and finally got promoted back to Div 1 that is big progress from where they were. Like Roscommon they are a young team with plenty of potential and loads of room for improvement which i believe both will do in the years ahead.

If I had a penny for every time I heard that! Galway's poor players are not young or inexperienced; Conroy's ratio of good-to-poor games is 50:50, not good enough. GOD isn't good enough, nor is Bradshaw anymore, they're incapable of defending.  Flynn and FOC were dual U-21 AI winners, but they really haven't developed into top midfielders we hoped they might. Armstrong's best years aren't ahead of him. Kyne is 26 at least and will never be good enough. it's not a question of hoping callow youth might mature into right players, it's too late.

Great day in Galway today. Had no traffic problems getting there and great Ros turnout that became more apparent when we won, bit  like 2010. Most happy to see that many of our best underage players have the ability to be great senior championship players, as we have not always done the best job at making that transition. Can't get carried away with one game. However, Mac had us well organised, positive game plan, very fit and hard working. Some wonderful scores from both teams, and two top class goals. Lots of players could be MOTM but Enda was outstanding in the area where we worried the most. The TV highlights did not do justice to Donie and Conor's points from the left - pure beauts. Hard luck to Galway, took defeat with a lot of grace and were wonderful hosts. Well capable of beating Donegal if they get the heads right.

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I didn't see it coming matter of fact i had this game to be tight with Galway to win a few points. Roscommon were truly outstanding and on the day were over 12 points the better team than a shell-shocked Galway.

McStay shipped his fair share amount of criticism but he and his management team really did the business in this final, homework done on their opposition and simply put Galway had no answer to their game plan and spot on tactics. The talented footballers was never in question in Roscommon anyone that follows underage or college football would know this but what made todays win all the more remarkable was they won at ease without so many top quality players like Neill Collins,Niall Daly,Ultan Harney and Conor Daly,David Keenan etc

As for Galway it about getting back on the horse after their fall today. They have beaten Mayo twice in the championship,won their first Connacht title in 8 years last summer and finally got promoted back to Div 1 that is big progress from where they were. Like Roscommon they are a young team with plenty of potential and loads of room for improvement which i believe both will do in the years ahead.

If I had a penny for every time I heard that! Galway's poor players are not young or inexperienced; Conroy's ratio of good-to-poor games is 50:50, not good enough. GOD isn't good enough, nor is Bradshaw anymore, they're incapable of defending.  Flynn and FOC were dual U-21 AI winners, but they really haven't developed into top midfielders we hoped they might. Armstrong's best years aren't ahead of him. Kyne is 26 at least and will never be good enough. it's not a question of hoping callow youth might mature into right players, it's too late.

Brannigan,Comer,Daly,Flynn,Heaney,Kerin,O Curraoin,Silke,Walsh on the Galway starting team today would all be in their early to mid 20s and in a few years time those players will the experienced players that could lead from the front and don't forget the amount of talent in Galway the have to should establish themselves as good seniors in the likes of McDaid,O Ceallaigh,Cooke etc.

Roscommon called Galways bluff pushed up on the kick out mcstay out thought walsh on the line brilliance by the rossies

I was flying so I missed the second half. Fair play to the neighbours. Great win especially for Mc Stay.  Even Syf was quiet last week. The Groupthink. 
Another turn up for the logic of the bookies.

I am delighted for the Rossies but they have to win their QF. They haven't been able to kick on for a while.

Beating Mayo is obviously a devalued currency. ;)

Galway have had a problem at FB for a while. It reminded me a bit of the hurlers in 2015 when Hanbury got cleaned out. Or Sean Treacy in 1990.  The solution reaches a dead end.
The championship is all about having your weaknesses and failings brutally exposed. Maybe Daithi Burke could be cloned

I don't think Donegal are great. Otherwise I would agree with Mouview's riff a la  Statler and Waldorf.

Let's see how good the Galway psychology is the next day. They are better than they showed yesterday. They should be really hurting.

Well done to all the Rossies, led by superior management team from the best club in the country.

Syf takes a lot of abuse on here, so well done to him/her in particular. Can you stop with the posting of photos though? No one gives a shite what photos you took

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Quote from: DJGaliv on July 09, 2017, 04:51:47 PMI wouldn't even say we underestimated Roscommon.....

No, I think you hit the nail on the head there. I'm a Rossie living in Galway and everybody from work colleagues down to the local (and national) media where signing Galways praises. It was just a matter of turning up and collecting their cup. The winning score line was going to be a cricket score. Confidence is all good and well but there was no humitily or even the usual GAA attempt at talking up the opposition, Ala Jim Gavin and Carlow/Westmeath for example. It was just smug condescending arrogance by and large from Galway and they got their answer today. Read the Tuam Hearld's piece for example....

That HAD to feed down to the players and it showed in their attitude today. That's not to take away from Roscommon's efforts, they were immence and fully deserving of their win. But Galway could have been, and are, a lot better than today's efforts.

Galway are the most over-rated team in the country.

What have they achieved to date?

Very very little when you examine the evidence. Galway have achieved absolutely nothing in the last decade to consider themselves a foregone conclusion against anything other then a Div 3/4 side.

Still living off the back of Padraig Joyce, Donnellan , Mannion and the great players they once had

That's a bit harsh! Galway have been looking to get back to some level of competitiveness for the last 10 years. Once you fall out of the loop it's hard to get back in again. You say what have they achieved. Well they have beaten a still decent Mayo team in Championship the last two years. They have got into Division One and they have won a Connacht title. They are not the real deal. But they have made progress and have put themselves to be in the position to make progress. I know this may be hard for a person from Dublin to appreciate with all the advantages that go with the Dublin County and Club scene.

Indiana is a parody. Tomás Mannion played on teams that lost to the likes of Leitrim, a long way frôm the radar of Dub bandwagoners. The abuse they got. Nobody rated Galway in 1995 either.
Football goes in cycles. Galway need a few more iterations.

Quote from: seafoid on July 10, 2017, 07:24:27 AM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2017, 08:17:50 PM

Quote from: INDIANA on July 09, 2017, 07:53:53 PM

Quote from: Ryano on July 09, 2017, 07:51:10 PM

Quote from: DJGaliv on July 09, 2017, 04:51:47 PMI wouldn't even say we underestimated Roscommon.....

No, I think you hit the nail on the head there. I'm a Rossie living in Galway and everybody from work colleagues down to the local (and national) media where signing Galways praises. It was just a matter of turning up and collecting their cup. The winning score line was going to be a cricket score. Confidence is all good and well but there was no humitily or even the usual GAA attempt at talking up the opposition, Ala Jim Gavin and Carlow/Westmeath for example. It was just smug condescending arrogance by and large from Galway and they got their answer today. Read the Tuam Hearld's piece for example....

That HAD to feed down to the players and it showed in their attitude today. That's not to take away from Roscommon's efforts, they were immence and fully deserving of their win. But Galway could have been, and are, a lot better than today's efforts.

Galway are the most over-rated team in the country.

What have they achieved to date?

Very very little when you examine the evidence. Galway have achieved absolutely nothing in the last decade to consider themselves a foregone conclusion against anything other then a Div 3/4 side.

Still living off the back of Padraig Joyce, Donnellan , Mannion and the great players they once had

That's a bit harsh! Galway have been looking to get back to some level of competitiveness for the last 10 years. Once you fall out of the loop it's hard to get back in again. You say what have they achieved. Well they have beaten a still decent Mayo team in Championship the last two years. They have got into Division One and they have won a Connacht title. They are not the real deal. But they have made progress and have put themselves to be in the position to make progress. I know this may be hard for a person from Dublin to appreciate with all the advantages that go with the Dublin County and Club scene.

Indiana is a parody. Tomás Mannion played on teams that lost to the likes of Leitrim, a long way frôm the radar of Dub bandwagoners. The abuse they got. Nobody rated Galway in 1995 either.
Football goes in cycles. Galway need a few more iterations.

Nah you need a few footballers. When you find some let the rest of us know. I reckon Galway Football has had more false dawns then the Green party at this point.
Until then you've no right to think you can walk all over the Roscommon's of this world.

Delighted for Syferus

Galway need to get a proper manager and they'll improve. KW will get the freedom of Roscommon now!

Delighted for Roscommon and their supporters on here.
Have always found them a very knowledgeable and fair set of supporters.

McStay played a blnder.

Roscommon are one of the bottom 6 when it comes to playing numbers.
They showed that the lack of numbers argument is rubbish.
Great to see.

Quote from: FermGael on July 10, 2017, 08:19:18 AM
Delighted for Roscommon and their supporters on here.
Have always found them a very knowledgeable and fair set of supporters.

McStay played a blnder.

Roscommon are one of the bottom 6 when it comes to playing numbers.
They showed that the lack of numbers argument is rubbish.
Great to see.

Well done to them but I think you're overegging the pudding a bit there.

Roscommon would probably have the third highest playing numbers in Connacht and all they had to was beat a Division 4 side to get to the final in the first place. Great result for them yesterday but it probably said as much about where Galway are at than Roscommon are.

Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2017, 09:45:14 PM
It's all coming together.
Galway beware!!

Now for ye!!
What a great day in Salthill yesterday :D
A flying start set us up nicely and despite losing our way in the second quarter we weathered the Galway 3rd quarter storm and won pulling up.
Mental and physical freshness, workrate, lack of pressure by being written off, lack of pressure by lack of expectations among the followers, lack of a bandwagon all contributed to our success.
However the players still had to perform on the day and by God they did.
Well done to management* for having them so well prepared.
I didn't agree with some of their selection calls but we'll have to credit them for getting it right.
16 year sinice we bet Galway or the Rhubarbs in Championship. Hopefully we can now make it a more regular occurrence.

To the players and panel congrats and  well done.
Now enjoy today but then put away the cup as that competition is over and prepare for the Quarter Final of the next competition.

* I have one quibble - the 3 year plan only had us reaching the CF not actually winning it. Time to tear it up McS/McH if ye won't keep to it. :-*

Quote from: INDIANA on July 09, 2017, 11:16:44 PM
Galway is one of the premier GAA counties with stacks of cash behind them.

Problem is they don't deliver on the big day anymore a we saw against Tipperary last year.

It's got nothing to do with appreciating anything. Its'called delivery of performance

No Galway supporter has a leg to stand on in terms of making a defence of the team against any criticism after yesterday's non-performance, but with respect to the "stacks of cash" notion you are completely incorrect and misinformed on that point.

Quote from: INDIANA on July 10, 2017, 07:52:32 AM

Quote from: seafoid on July 10, 2017, 07:24:27 AM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2017, 08:17:50 PM

Quote from: INDIANA on July 09, 2017, 07:53:53 PM

Quote from: Ryano on July 09, 2017, 07:51:10 PM

Quote from: DJGaliv on July 09, 2017, 04:51:47 PMI wouldn't even say we underestimated Roscommon.....

No, I think you hit the nail on the head there. I'm a Rossie living in Galway and everybody from work colleagues down to the local (and national) media where signing Galways praises. It was just a matter of turning up and collecting their cup. The winning score line was going to be a cricket score. Confidence is all good and well but there was no humitily or even the usual GAA attempt at talking up the opposition, Ala Jim Gavin and Carlow/Westmeath for example. It was just smug condescending arrogance by and large from Galway and they got their answer today. Read the Tuam Hearld's piece for example....

That HAD to feed down to the players and it showed in their attitude today. That's not to take away from Roscommon's efforts, they were immence and fully deserving of their win. But Galway could have been, and are, a lot better than today's efforts.

Galway are the most over-rated team in the country.

What have they achieved to date?

Very very little when you examine the evidence. Galway have achieved absolutely nothing in the last decade to consider themselves a foregone conclusion against anything other then a Div 3/4 side.

Still living off the back of Padraig Joyce, Donnellan , Mannion and the great players they once had

That's a bit harsh! Galway have been looking to get back to some level of competitiveness for the last 10 years. Once you fall out of the loop it's hard to get back in again. You say what have they achieved. Well they have beaten a still decent Mayo team in Championship the last two years. They have got into Division One and they have won a Connacht title. They are not the real deal. But they have made progress and have put themselves to be in the position to make progress. I know this may be hard for a person from Dublin to appreciate with all the advantages that go with the Dublin County and Club scene.

Indiana is a parody. Tomás Mannion played on teams that lost to the likes of Leitrim, a long way frôm the radar of Dub bandwagoners. The abuse they got. Nobody rated Galway in 1995 either.
Football goes in cycles. Galway need a few more iterations.

Nah you need a few footballers. When you find some let the rest of us know. I reckon Galway Football has had more false dawns then the Green party at this point.
Until then you've no right to think you can walk all over the Roscommon's of this world.

Indy - you don't know enough about other counties or how success is built  You remind me of a cartoon character.
Kevin Walsh the player had to go through a lot of learning moments before he became a star. So did Ja Fallon. Ivan Lendl said one time that there are 2 kinds of losses. The ones you learn from and the ones you don't. 
The Galway players have that choice.

What can you say after a game like that but congratulations to Roscommon.
Worth every one of the 9 points and probably could have won by more.
There was only team that showed any type of championship passion or intensity.

I don't know where we go from here to be honest. There's just no excuse for not bringing any sort of intensity to your play in a Connacht final.
It was nearly a replica of the timid display against Tipp last year.
Anyhow it's for another day.
Congrats to Ros and I hope ye win the quarter final whoever ye play.

Quote from: magpie seanie on July 10, 2017, 08:11:44 AM
Galway need to get a proper manager and they'll improve. KW will get the freedom of Roscommon now!

Had he not already got it from 2010?

Congrats to Roscommon on a deserving win yesterday, thought they'd rue those first half wides when having the wind with them, and when Galway were making inroads (bar the Ros goal) into that lead in the third quarter but they held their nerve and it was a very composed second half display, never looked in doubt from a long way out. Well done and try to kick on in the quarters now.

On a side note to yesterday the Gardai in Salthill done a load of cars about pending parking fines for parking on the road where I'd parked out towards the Clybaun, despite there being no indication that parking wasn't going to be allowed there, bastards.

Quote from: INDIANA on July 10, 2017, 07:52:32 AM

Quote from: seafoid on July 10, 2017, 07:24:27 AM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2017, 08:17:50 PM

Quote from: INDIANA on July 09, 2017, 07:53:53 PM

Quote from: Ryano on July 09, 2017, 07:51:10 PM

Quote from: DJGaliv on July 09, 2017, 04:51:47 PMI wouldn't even say we underestimated Roscommon.....

No, I think you hit the nail on the head there. I'm a Rossie living in Galway and everybody from work colleagues down to the local (and national) media where signing Galways praises. It was just a matter of turning up and collecting their cup. The winning score line was going to be a cricket score. Confidence is all good and well but there was no humitily or even the usual GAA attempt at talking up the opposition, Ala Jim Gavin and Carlow/Westmeath for example. It was just smug condescending arrogance by and large from Galway and they got their answer today. Read the Tuam Hearld's piece for example....

That HAD to feed down to the players and it showed in their attitude today. That's not to take away from Roscommon's efforts, they were immence and fully deserving of their win. But Galway could have been, and are, a lot better than today's efforts.

Galway are the most over-rated team in the country.

What have they achieved to date?

Very very little when you examine the evidence. Galway have achieved absolutely nothing in the last decade to consider themselves a foregone conclusion against anything other then a Div 3/4 side.

Still living off the back of Padraig Joyce, Donnellan , Mannion and the great players they once had

That's a bit harsh! Galway have been looking to get back to some level of competitiveness for the last 10 years. Once you fall out of the loop it's hard to get back in again. You say what have they achieved. Well they have beaten a still decent Mayo team in Championship the last two years. They have got into Division One and they have won a Connacht title. They are not the real deal. But they have made progress and have put themselves to be in the position to make progress. I know this may be hard for a person from Dublin to appreciate with all the advantages that go with the Dublin County and Club scene.

Indiana is a parody. Tomás Mannion played on teams that lost to the likes of Leitrim, a long way frôm the radar of Dub bandwagoners. The abuse they got. Nobody rated Galway in 1995 either.
Football goes in cycles. Galway need a few more iterations.

Nah you need a few footballers. When you find some let the rest of us know. I reckon Galway Football has had more false dawns then the Green party at this point.
Until then you've no right to think you can walk all over the Roscommon's of this world.

Re false dawns how about Dubs 90-94, the arse boxing years or 2002-09? 

Well done to Roscommon, miles the better team and its reward for for all that hard work put in with those very good underage team. Hopefully that injury to Murtagh isn't serious, the lad deserves a break.

What a dreadful performance, a disgraceful opening 15 minutes devoid of any sort of intensity and were lucky not to be 12 points down. I thought after the opening 5 minutes of the second half they had a great chance but to concede a goal like that is nothing short of comical. Then they got themselves back in the match again only for to completely fall away again in the last 15 minutes but you have to give Roscommon credit for that, they managed to retain their own kickouts and went down the other end and kicked some great scores.

Its hard to believe a team could fall apart like that 2 years in a row especially after beating Mayo in consecutive years, its just not good enough. We're all aware of the issues with the defence and knew ultimately it would prevent from Galway kicking on but that performance yesterday and last year against Tipp was a team just not turning up, once you can understand but twice isn't acceptable. Kevin Walsh has done a decent job but another performance like that against Donegal would surely leave him under pressure. Its hard to look at individuals when everyone apart from Walsh & Kerin were atrocious but we're desperate for a fullback and someone who can actually defend in the half back line.

At least the players get the opportunity to bounce straight back unlike last year, if and its a big if they can win against Donegal it won't have been such a bad year but as we seen with Roscommon last year against Clare you just couldn't fancy Galway at all.

Well as the dust settled on a big win for Ross,will galway have the stomach for the qualifiers.Yesterday's defeat was a huge setback,nothing against rosscomon but after last year's defeat to tipp,they have not learned to underestimate an opponent.it's always easy to get motivated for mayo,but that seems to be our lot.Donegal will be a huge match,don't be surprised if galway take them,so many were not allowed perform yesterday
( rosscommon hunger).I'd safely say there will be a players only meeting  to try and regroup.walsh can't take all the blame.

Anyone else think Gough was shocking? never seen so many soft frees he gave especially right in front of the post and lost count of the amount of yellow cards he dished out for what looked like nothing.

Haven't seen what Comer did but he should have got straight red, he's going to have to learn to curb that temper of his.

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 12:35:42 PM
Anyone else think Gough was shocking? never seen so many soft frees he gave especially right in front of the post and lost count of the amount of yellow cards he dished out for what looked like nothing.

Haven't seen what Comer did but he should have got straight red, he's going to have to learn to curb that temper of his.

I heard a few Galway supporters take this tact. Gough had a few soft ones in their direction too but honestly nearly ever call was correct - you put the hand on the back, put in a lazy foul or fúck about off the ball you'll be called. He's the best ref in the country by some distance IMHO. The only thing he missed (thanks to the linesman not having the guts to call him over) was Kerin kneeing Diarmuid in the first half, which should have been a card offence, meaning he would have been sent off when he eventually got one for another incident later.

Without trying to dismiss Galway, I'd say if he'd reffed the Mayo match Mayo would have won as he wouldn't have let Galway away with some of the wreckless, macho BS they did get away with. I'd be looking more at Galway's discipline yesterday than I would be at the ref. Trying to intimidate teams will only get you so far because you'll always eventually find one that can take anything you can throw and/or a ref that isn't going to tolerate it.

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 12:35:42 PM
Anyone else think Gough was shocking? never seen so many soft frees he gave especially right in front of the post and lost count of the amount of yellow cards he dished out for what looked like nothing.

The "fouls" he awarded for off the ball contact were ridiculously soft and replays showed there was minimal enough contact between the players beyond the normal jostling for position. You'd see more contact at the national ballet. If you start blowing those up every single time the game would be a farce. No doubt Galway came out on the wrong side of most of those but what can you do. McStay thought he was magnificent and you very rarely hear any manager singing the praises of a ref to that extent.

Although if you say it you'll probably be accused of sour grapes but despite his eccentric performance he wasn't the reason we lost. That was down to the wretched display of the players and management themselves. I doubt we won a 50/50 ball all afternoon and we lost a fair few 70/30 ones in our favour. When that is happening you know the mindset is all wrong.

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 12:35:42 PM
Anyone else think Gough was shocking? never seen so many soft frees he gave especially right in front of the post and lost count of the amount of yellow cards he dished out for what looked like nothing.

Haven't seen what Comer did but he should have got straight red, he's going to have to learn to curb that temper of his.

He was poor BUT that's not why we lost!  Too many lads just though they had to turn up and collect the Nestor cup and they got what they deserved.  You have to earn the right to play to your own game plan and when your loosing as many 50:50 challenges as we did yesterday, well then you usually get well bet, and we did and should have been bet by more - BIG 2 weeks for that whole setup.

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Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 12:35:42 PM
Anyone else think Gough was shocking? never seen so many soft frees he gave especially right in front of the post and lost count of the amount of yellow cards he dished out for what looked like nothing.

Haven't seen what Comer did but he should have got straight red, he's going to have to learn to curb that temper of his.

I heard a few Galway supporters take this tact. Gough had a few soft ones in their direction too but honestly nearly ever call was correct - you put the hand on the back, put in a lazy foul or fúck about off the ball you'll be called. He's the best ref in the country by some distance IMHO. The only thing he missed (thanks to the linesman not having the guts to call him over) was Kerin kneeing Diarmuid in the first half, which should have been a card offence, meaning he would have been sent off when he eventually got one for another incident later.

Without trying to dismiss Galway, I'd say if he'd reffed the Mayo match Mayo would have won as he wouldn't have let Galway away with some of the wreckless, macho BS they did get away with. I'd be looking more at Galway's discipline yesterday than I would be at the ref. Trying to intimidate teams will only get you so far because you'll always eventually find one that can take anything you can throw and/or a ref that isn't going to tolerate it.

I think Gough probably is the best ref out there - certainly best of the young crop. But some of those frees for off-the-ball "push in the back" were ridiculously soft - they were literally blown for a hand touching the player, no push involved.

Just cannot f**king understand how that team could be so passive in any championship game never mind a provincial final.
The Mayo footballers get a lot of stick but they always put in a shift at the very least.
This Galway team yesterday and against Tipp last year didn't.
I will never understand that.
Enda Smith was a colossus yesterday

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 12:35:42 PM
Anyone else think Gough was shocking?

No -only Galway people so......

Quote from: Rossfan on July 10, 2017, 02:58:27 PM

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 12:35:42 PM
Anyone else think Gough was shocking?

No -only Galway people so......

How about your cool, clean super-hero now, lad?

Gough is no hero of mine Syfīn ;D
Just think he's a decent ref full stop.

Quote from: Rossfan on July 10, 2017, 02:58:27 PM

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 12:35:42 PM
Anyone else think Gough was shocking?

No -only Galway people so......

I've said it before . i think the Powers that be give referrees brownie points for fouls off the ball, further away the better.the main problem being it leads to huge inconsistency with all the one that are missed
Gough seemed to spend more time watching where the ball was not rather than where it was .
hes A shoo in for the final this year

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 10, 2017, 08:22:46 AM

Quote from: FermGael on July 10, 2017, 08:19:18 AM
Delighted for Roscommon and their supporters on here.
Have always found them a very knowledgeable and fair set of supporters.

McStay played a blnder.

Roscommon are one of the bottom 6 when it comes to playing numbers.
They showed that the lack of numbers argument is rubbish.
Great to see.

Well done to them but I think you're overegging the pudding a bit there.

Roscommon would probably have the third highest playing numbers in Connacht and all they had to was beat a Division 4 side to get to the final in the first place. Great result for them yesterday but it probably said as much about where Galway are at than Roscommon are.

Roscommon have been playing Div one football the last two years and Galway haven't played Div one football since 2011 and it showed in that Connacht final.

Roscommon playing numbers would be similar to Sligos. At least yesterday they proved they weren't "desperate" as you tried to claim before the game but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt there as you were only looking for a cheap rise and have little or no knowledge of Roscommon football.

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Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 10, 2017, 08:22:46 AM

Quote from: FermGael on July 10, 2017, 08:19:18 AM
Delighted for Roscommon and their supporters on here.
Have always found them a very knowledgeable and fair set of supporters.

McStay played a blnder.

Roscommon are one of the bottom 6 when it comes to playing numbers.
They showed that the lack of numbers argument is rubbish.
Great to see.

Well done to them but I think you're overegging the pudding a bit there.

Roscommon would probably have the third highest playing numbers in Connacht and all they had to was beat a Division 4 side to get to the final in the first place. Great result for them yesterday but it probably said as much about where Galway are at than Roscommon are.

Roscommon have been playing Div one football the last two years and Galway haven't played Div one football since 2011 and it showed in that Connacht final.

I don't actually think that was a factor at all. Mayo have been in division 1 for donkey's years but Galway beat them twice. Games like these (especially on a dirty day) often come down to attitude, mindset and workrate. One side had all those and the other didn't.

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 12:02:57 PM

At least the players get the opportunity to bounce straight back unlike last year, if and its a big if they can win against Donegal it won't have been such a bad year but as we seen with Roscommon last year against Clare you just couldn't fancy Galway at all.

Roscommon had to play that Clare game six day after a Connacht final trimming. Galway have the extra week to recover now plus Donegal aren't exactly flying and look like a team that maxed out during the NFL.

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 10, 2017, 03:55:30 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 10, 2017, 03:48:35 PM

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 10, 2017, 08:22:46 AM

Quote from: FermGael on July 10, 2017, 08:19:18 AM
Delighted for Roscommon and their supporters on here.
Have always found them a very knowledgeable and fair set of supporters.

McStay played a blnder.

Roscommon are one of the bottom 6 when it comes to playing numbers.
They showed that the lack of numbers argument is rubbish.
Great to see.

Well done to them but I think you're overegging the pudding a bit there.

Roscommon would probably have the third highest playing numbers in Connacht and all they had to was beat a Division 4 side to get to the final in the first place. Great result for them yesterday but it probably said as much about where Galway are at than Roscommon are.

Roscommon have been playing Div one football the last two years and Galway haven't played Div one football since 2011 and it showed in that Connacht final.

I don't actually think that was a factor at all. Mayo have been in division 1 for donkey's years but Galway beat them twice. Games like these (especially on a dirty day) often come down to attitude, mindset and workrate. One side had all those and the other didn't.

Like McStay said, people like to draw straight lines between games and events as if they are of huge consequence. Its especially hard to draw those lines when the accepted wisdom has been thrown down a bog hole. A lot of our starters this year weren't even regulars in D1 last year, while some others who statrred weren't even on the panel at all.

I'd be looking at how many tight games these players have played against each other over the years at all grades - there's no fear or inferiority complexes on either side. That sort of mentality means you get results like the last three Connacht finals.

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 10, 2017, 03:55:30 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 10, 2017, 03:48:35 PM

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 10, 2017, 08:22:46 AM

Quote from: FermGael on July 10, 2017, 08:19:18 AM
Delighted for Roscommon and their supporters on here.
Have always found them a very knowledgeable and fair set of supporters.

McStay played a blnder.

Roscommon are one of the bottom 6 when it comes to playing numbers.
They showed that the lack of numbers argument is rubbish.
Great to see.

Well done to them but I think you're overegging the pudding a bit there.

Roscommon would probably have the third highest playing numbers in Connacht and all they had to was beat a Division 4 side to get to the final in the first place. Great result for them yesterday but it probably said as much about where Galway are at than Roscommon are.

Roscommon have been playing Div one football the last two years and Galway haven't played Div one football since 2011 and it showed in that Connacht final.

I don't actually think that was a factor at all. Mayo have been in division 1 for donkey's years but Galway beat them twice. Games like these (especially on a dirty day) often come down to attitude, mindset and workrate. One side had all those and the other didn't.

Roscommon showed up and played well from minute one, it's as simple as that.
It has to be remembered that Galway didn't play all that well against Mayo either, I expected them to improve from that showing but the performance was actually worse and as I said before the game, Roscommon were always going to bring everything they had for this final whether it was Galway or Mayo in opposition, their whole year was built around it, were Galway going to be able to show their best and match it? The answer was a categorical no.

Attitude and application during the 75 minutes are a different thing, I find it hard to believe that they could have take Roscommon (or any other team) for granted after the Tipp game last year, as DJGaliv mentioned already saying that Galway "underestimated Roscommon" gives the team an excuse they don't deserve as if that's the reason for the loss as opposed to not being able to match what Roscommon brought to the game yesterday - which is my reading of it. The Galway poor performance has to be credited in part to Roscommon who played very well and attacked the Galway flaws in an effective manner.

The Rossies got a trimming in the replay last year and had to suck it up, Galway will have to do likewise this year. I have no idea what the response will be against Donegal, hard to remain optimistic after yesterday.

Thats a very poor attempt from O'Donnell to try and stop Stack for that second goal, I'm far from convinced about his defensive qualities. Anyone else think Kerin did ok for a man who'd been out for so long? That first goal didn't reflect well on Galway either, you've got to give credit to Murtagh for a brilliant pass and Connolly for the finish but leaving one defender inside our own 45 when playing against the wind is brainless. I just don't see what Flynn brings to the team from half forward, FOC was very poor yesterday too and don't see why both need to start.

The reality is until we can bring in 3 or 4 defenders of better quality we're not going to trouble the top table but looking at the last 5 goals we've conceded against Tipp & Roscommon they all easily been avoided. Both games we were flat but its the kickouts that has killed us, completely dominated in both games.

Just don't know what to think of Lavelle, he's certainly not helped by how slow some of our backs seem to react but his 2 championship appearances to date have been in terrible conditions.

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 06:37:47 PM
Thats a very poor attempt from O'Donnell to try and stop Stack for that second goal, I'm far from convinced about his defensive qualities. Anyone else think Kerin did ok for a man who'd been out for so long? That first goal didn't reflect well on Galway either, you've got to give credit to Murtagh for a brilliant pass and Connolly for the finish but leaving one defender inside our own 45 when playing against the wind is brainless. I just don't see what Flynn brings to the team from half forward, FOC was very poor yesterday too and don't see why both need to start.

The reality is until we can bring in 3 or 4 defenders of better quality we're not going to trouble the top table but looking at the last 5 goals we've conceded against Tipp & Roscommon they all easily been avoided. Both games we were flat but its the kickouts that has killed us, completely dominated in both games.

Just don't know what to think of Lavelle, he's certainly not helped by how slow some of our backs seem to react but his 2 championship appearances to date have been in terrible conditions.

Not only that but the defender's positioning was all wrong which caused him to loose track of Connolly - it's fairly basic stuff to stay between the forward and the goal in a situation like this.

Overall the Galway defending was basket case stuff and until this and the kickout situation gets resolved they are going nowhere.

Looking ahead a bit, they are likely going to be massively up against it in Division 1 next year.

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 06:37:47 PM
Thats a very poor attempt from O'Donnell to try and stop Stack for that second goal, I'm far from convinced about his defensive qualities. Anyone else think Kerin did ok for a man who'd been out for so long? That first goal didn't reflect well on Galway either, you've got to give credit to Murtagh for a brilliant pass and Connolly for the finish but leaving one defender inside our own 45 when playing against the wind is brainless.

It was actually utterly hopeless team defending and individual defending from Sweeney. As a team you just can't leave a one on one right in front of your own goal. It's asking for trouble. And it was awful defending from Sweeney. Growing up we were always coached to stay goal side of your man and to stay touch tight to him. It's basic defending 101. Sweeney had drifted 5 or 6 yards away from his man and had even allowed him to drift in behind him. All it took was a ball over the top and there was a certain goal chance. My old fella digged me in the ribs 5 seconds before the pass was even made roaring that Sweeney had let his man drift in behind him.

David Gough played all his football as a corner back
won a trench cup with St Pats

he knows all the tricks defenders get up to off the ball

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Delighted for Roscommon and their supporters on here.
Have always found them a very knowledgeable and fair set of supporters.

McStay played a blnder.

Roscommon are one of the bottom 6 when it comes to playing numbers.
They showed that the lack of numbers argument is rubbish.
Great to see.

Well done to them but I think you're overegging the pudding a bit there.

Roscommon would probably have the third highest playing numbers in Connacht and all they had to was beat a Division 4 side to get to the final in the first place. Great result for them yesterday but it probably said as much about where Galway are at than Roscommon are.

Roscommon have been playing Div one football the last two years and Galway haven't played Div one football since 2011 and it showed in that Connacht final.

I don't actually think that was a factor at all. Mayo have been in division 1 for donkey's years but Galway beat them twice. Games like these (especially on a dirty day) often come down to attitude, mindset and workrate. One side had all those and the other didn't.

Roscommon showed up and played well from minute one, it's as simple as that.
It has to be remembered that Galway didn't play all that well against Mayo either, I expected them to improve from that showing but the performance was actually worse and as I said before the game, Roscommon were always going to bring everything they had for this final whether it was Galway or Mayo in opposition, their whole year was built around it, were Galway going to be able to show their best and match it? The answer was a categorical no.

Attitude and application during the 75 minutes are a different thing, I find it hard to believe that they could have take Roscommon (or any other team) for granted after the Tipp game last year, as DJGaliv mentioned already saying that Galway "underestimated Roscommon" gives the team an excuse they don't deserve as if that's the reason for the loss as opposed to not being able to match what Roscommon brought to the game yesterday - which is my reading of it. The Galway poor performance has to be credited in part to Roscommon who played very well and attacked the Galway flaws in an effective manner.

The Rossies got a trimming in the replay last year and had to suck it up, Galway will have to do likewise this year. I have no idea what the response will be against Donegal, hard to remain optimistic after yesterday.

Mayo had Higgins sent off in the first half and Galway spent months preparing for that match.
There is a quote about power- that it may or may not corrupt but it always reveals.
The championship always reveals. Ros went for the weaknesses.

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 06:37:47 PM
Thats a very poor attempt from O'Donnell to try and stop Stack for that second goal, I'm far from convinced about his defensive qualities. Anyone else think Kerin did ok for a man who'd been out for so long? That first goal didn't reflect well on Galway either, you've got to give credit to Murtagh for a brilliant pass and Connolly for the finish but leaving one defender inside our own 45 when playing against the wind is brainless. I just don't see what Flynn brings to the team from half forward, FOC was very poor yesterday too and don't see why both need to start.

The reality is until we can bring in 3 or 4 defenders of better quality we're not going to trouble the top table but looking at the last 5 goals we've conceded against Tipp & Roscommon they all easily been avoided. Both games we were flat but its the kickouts that has killed us, completely dominated in both games.

Just don't know what to think of Lavelle, he's certainly not helped by how slow some of our backs seem to react but his 2 championship appearances to date have been in terrible conditions.

Well done Roscommon, no excuses, better team won, fair play to Kevin McStay after all the stick he took over the last 12 months. Enda Smith was absolutely fantastic. Galway were a shambles from start to finish. Would agree about Kerin MM, he was the only one of the backs that stood up yesterday, himself and Shane Walsh are about the only 2 to come out of that with any pride. The half back line were wiped out yet again and left the full back line wide open. Our kick outs are absolutely shocking, Lavelle is taking awful stick and was probably doing as he was told by management but his short kick outs put his backs under awful bother and his distribution is terrible. I don't think he's up to it and should be the first change for the next day. It was a disaster of a day and was finished off with a complete loss of discipline. It'll be difficult to raise the heads for the Donegal game but hopefully they play for a bit of pride in the jersey, that certainly wasn't shown yesterday.

Just wanted to add my congratulations to Ros and their fans on here. Also happy for McStay. He got a lot of criticism for the past year. Maybe the hard work at underage is starting to show for Ros now.

PS, Roscommon must be praying for relegation every year now. 2010 and 2017... Well done once again.

Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 11, 2017, 09:19:26 AM
Just wanted to add my congratulations to Ros and their fans on here. Also happy for McStay. He got a lot of criticism for the past year. Maybe the hard work at underage is starting to show for Ros now.

PS, Roscommon must be praying for relegation every year now. 2010 and 2017... Well done once again.

They have to follow up with a semi final. No point in losing another quarter final.

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 06:37:47 PM
That first goal didn't reflect well on Galway either, you've got to give credit to Murtagh for a brilliant pass and Connolly for the finish but leaving one defender inside our own 45 when playing against the wind is brainless.

I thought that pass from Murtagh was sensational. One of the highlights of the championship to date, and topped off with a lovely finish.

While Enda Smith caught some unbelieveable ball, he turned over an awful lot of it. So still room for improvement.

I thought Kilroy 11 and McManus 3 were huge players for Roscommon. Won a sea of ball around the middle, dominating the breaks and usually used it really well (I know McManus kicked one handy pass straight over the sideline, but otherwise didn't do much wrong).

Although my favourite player of the day was Shane Walsh. Playing on a rubbish team (on the day) he managed to shine like a beacon.

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Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 11, 2017, 09:19:26 AM
Just wanted to add my congratulations to Ros and their fans on here. Also happy for McStay. He got a lot of criticism for the past year. Maybe the hard work at underage is starting to show for Ros now.

PS, Roscommon must be praying for relegation every year now. 2010 and 2017... Well done once again.

They have to follow up with a semi final. No point in losing another quarter final.

Yes indeed let's not be copying Galway's history of failures since 2001 ;).
You're right though Seafóid, time to put the Cup away now and get down to preparing for (most likely) the Rhubarbs on the 30th.
While Sunday was glorious we can't just let it be an end in itself but rather the start of a wonderful magical mystery tour for the next few years.
The Minors of 2011/12 who became the U21s of 2014/15 will hopefully be spoken of with awe as the Seniors of 2017- 20??.
Also hopefully the conversation at pub counters from Ballyfarnon to Ballyforan in the 2030s will be which team was better 43/44 or 2017-20??.
Raise up the standard high
Wave banners to the sky
Follow them on through sunshine or rain
Shout with a mighty roar
Let the world know once more
MEN OF ROSCOMMON ARE MARCHING AGAIN!!!!

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Just wanted to add my congratulations to Ros and their fans on here. Also happy for McStay. He got a lot of criticism for the past year. Maybe the hard work at underage is starting to show for Ros now.

PS, Roscommon must be praying for relegation every year now. 2010 and 2017... Well done once again.

They have to follow up with a semi final. No point in losing another quarter final.

Yes indeed let's not be copying Galway's history of failures since 2001 ;).
You're right though Seafóid, time to put the Cup away now and get down to preparing for (most likely) the Rhubarbs on the 30th.
While Sunday was glorious we can't just let it be an end in itself but rather the start of a wonderful magical mystery tour for the next few years.
The Minors of 2011/12 who became the U21s of 2014/15 will hopefully be spoken of with awe as the Seniors of 2017- 20??.
Also hopefully the conversation at pub counters from Ballyfarnon to Ballyforan in the 2030s will be which team was better 43/44 or 2017-20??.
Raise up the standard high
Wave banners to the sky
Follow them on through sunshine or rain
Shout with a mighty roar
Let the world know once more
MEN OF ROSCOMMON ARE MARCHING AGAIN!!!!

Rossfan

How funny that you mention 2001.  Very few people outside the county would remember that Ros won the Connacht final. that year.
The Dermot Earley/Murray combo of the late 70s was the last Rossie outfit to make an attempt to capture Sam 
A lot of football is psychological. Ros need the right attitude for the next match.
And they need consistency. Ros never built on 91, 01 or 2010

91 was the swansong of Marty McDermott's team which had been running from 1988.
2001 team had a lot of lads who were sociable sort of chaps and didn't kick on.
Poor manager choices after John Tobin didn't help them either.
2010 was a smash n grab with a limited enough team - who still ran the Rhubarbs to 2 points in 2011.
Hopefully now is the hour......

Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2017, 12:33:53 PM
91 was the swansong of Marty McDermott's team which had been running from 1988.
2001 team had a lot of lads who were sociable sort of chaps and didn't kick on.
Poor manager choices after John Tobin didn't help them either.
2010 was a smash n grab with a limited enough team - who still ran the Rhubarbs to 2 points in 2011.
Hopefully now is the hour......

It would be class. Shake up the fuball complacency a bit

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Just wanted to add my congratulations to Ros and their fans on here. Also happy for McStay. He got a lot of criticism for the past year. Maybe the hard work at underage is starting to show for Ros now.

PS, Roscommon must be praying for relegation every year now. 2010 and 2017... Well done once again.

They have to follow up with a semi final. No point in losing another quarter final.

Yes indeed let's not be copying Galway's history of failures since 2001 ;).
You're right though Seafóid, time to put the Cup away now and get down to preparing for (most likely) the Rhubarbs on the 30th.
While Sunday was glorious we can't just let it be an end in itself but rather the start of a wonderful magical mystery tour for the next few years.
The Minors of 2011/12 who became the U21s of 2014/15 will hopefully be spoken of with awe as the Seniors of 2017- 20??.
Also hopefully the conversation at pub counters from Ballyfarnon to Ballyforan in the 2030s will be which team was better 43/44 or 2017-20??.
Raise up the standard high
Wave banners to the sky
Follow them on through sunshine or rain
Shout with a mighty roar
Let the world know once more
MEN OF ROSCOMMON ARE MARCHING AGAIN!!!!

Rossfan

How funny that you mention 2001.  Very few people outside the county would remember that Ros won the Connacht final. that year.
The Dermot Earley/Murray combo of the late 70s was the last Rossie outfit to make an attempt to capture Sam 
A lot of football is psychological. Ros need the right attitude for the next match.
And they need consistency. Ros never built on 91, 01 or 2010

Roscommon partied too much in 2001 - everyone knows it.
it was seen as a reward for the 1998-2001 panel
the team was let off the leash too much and weren't ready for a quarter final, especially Galway again and not in Croke Park but in McHale of all places

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Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 11, 2017, 09:19:26 AM
Just wanted to add my congratulations to Ros and their fans on here. Also happy for McStay. He got a lot of criticism for the past year. Maybe the hard work at underage is starting to show for Ros now.

PS, Roscommon must be praying for relegation every year now. 2010 and 2017... Well done once again.

They have to follow up with a semi final. No point in losing another quarter final.

Yes indeed let's not be copying Galway's history of failures since 2001 ;).
You're right though Seafóid, time to put the Cup away now and get down to preparing for (most likely) the Rhubarbs on the 30th.
While Sunday was glorious we can't just let it be an end in itself but rather the start of a wonderful magical mystery tour for the next few years.
The Minors of 2011/12 who became the U21s of 2014/15 will hopefully be spoken of with awe as the Seniors of 2017- 20??.
Also hopefully the conversation at pub counters from Ballyfarnon to Ballyforan in the 2030s will be which team was better 43/44 or 2017-20??.
Raise up the standard high
Wave banners to the sky
Follow them on through sunshine or rain
Shout with a mighty roar
Let the world know once more
MEN OF ROSCOMMON ARE MARCHING AGAIN!!!!

Rossfan

How funny that you mention 2001.  Very few people outside the county would remember that Ros won the Connacht final. that year.
The Dermot Earley/Murray combo of the late 70s was the last Rossie outfit to make an attempt to capture Sam 
A lot of football is psychological. Ros need the right attitude for the next match.
And they need consistency. Ros never built on 91, 01 or 2010

Roscommon partied too much in 2001 - everyone knows it.
it was seen as a reward for the 1998-2001 panel
the team was let off the leash too much and weren't ready for a quarter final, especially Galway again and not in Croke Park but in McHale of all places

1/4 final draw in 2001 could have been so much more interesting. All of Roscommon and Westmeath were dying to get drawn against each other.

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That first goal didn't reflect well on Galway either, you've got to give credit to Murtagh for a brilliant pass and Connolly for the finish but leaving one defender inside our own 45 when playing against the wind is brainless.

I thought that pass from Murtagh was sensational. One of the highlights of the championship to date, and topped off with a lovely finish.

While Enda Smith caught some unbelieveable ball, he turned over an awful lot of it. So still room for improvement.

I thought Kilroy 11 and McManus 3 were huge players for Roscommon. Won a sea of ball around the middle, dominating the breaks and usually used it really well (I know McManus kicked one handy pass straight over the sideline, but otherwise didn't do much wrong).

Although my favourite player of the day was Shane Walsh. Playing on a rubbish team (on the day) he managed to shine like a beacon.

Will probably watch it again at some stage but initial reaction that Enda Smith got on a lot more ball than anyone else around the middle, agree on Shane Walsh. Considering Walsh is predominantly right footed he kicked a great free against the wind with his left, ability wise he can be on the best players in the country but he's got a long way to go before that happens. Considering Gough was dishing out yellows for nothing all day I couldn't believe it when he didn't speak to the Roscommon man who siphoned Walsh down midway through the 2nd half.

Still can't get my head around how bad we were in the middle considering the obvious height and physical advantage. We were dreadful but you have to give Roscommon as they had done their homework on galway's kickouts although it probably didn't take McStay long to work it out. Galway's kickout plan or lack of it is by far the most frustrating aspect of Walsh's reign.

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Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 06:37:47 PM
Thats a very poor attempt from O'Donnell to try and stop Stack for that second goal, I'm far from convinced about his defensive qualities. Anyone else think Kerin did ok for a man who'd been out for so long? That first goal didn't reflect well on Galway either, you've got to give credit to Murtagh for a brilliant pass and Connolly for the finish but leaving one defender inside our own 45 when playing against the wind is brainless. I just don't see what Flynn brings to the team from half forward, FOC was very poor yesterday too and don't see why both need to start.

The reality is until we can bring in 3 or 4 defenders of better quality we're not going to trouble the top table but looking at the last 5 goals we've conceded against Tipp & Roscommon they all easily been avoided. Both games we were flat but its the kickouts that has killed us, completely dominated in both games.

Just don't know what to think of Lavelle, he's certainly not helped by how slow some of our backs seem to react but his 2 championship appearances to date have been in terrible conditions.

Not only that but the defender's positioning was all wrong which caused him to loose track of Connolly - it's fairly basic stuff to stay between the forward and the goal in a situation like this.

Overall the Galway defending was basket case stuff and until this and the kickout situation gets resolved they are going nowhere.

Looking ahead a bit, they are likely going to be massively up against it in Division 1 next year.

Delighted to be in Div 1, its where we need to be. Even if Galway end up been relegated they'll have got something out of it ala Roscommon.  I don't think it will be as difficult as this seasons as I'd imagine Donegal & Monaghan will treat the league slightly differently and Mayo tend to just do enough to stay up.

There was only a couple occasions where Enda turned the ball over Hound, and I've watched the match enough times to know that for definite now. One was near the end when I don't even know how he was still running at all and the ball slipped away from him, it had feck all to do with Galway because his markers could barely lay a hand on him. His hands in absolutely brutal Salthill conditions where honestly incredible. He might have put in the single best performance by a Roscommon player that I've seen in my life.

I suppose you wouldn't know much about how wet and windy a match in Salthill is, though..  ;D

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Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 06:37:47 PM
That first goal didn't reflect well on Galway either, you've got to give credit to Murtagh for a brilliant pass and Connolly for the finish but leaving one defender inside our own 45 when playing against the wind is brainless.

I thought that pass from Murtagh was sensational. One of the highlights of the championship to date, and topped off with a lovely finish.

While Enda Smith caught some unbelieveable ball, he turned over an awful lot of it. So still room for improvement.

I thought Kilroy 11 and McManus 3 were huge players for Roscommon. Won a sea of ball around the middle, dominating the breaks and usually used it really well (I know McManus kicked one handy pass straight over the sideline, but otherwise didn't do much wrong).

Although my favourite player of the day was Shane Walsh. Playing on a rubbish team (on the day) he managed to shine like a beacon.

Still can't get my head around how bad we were in the middle considering the obvious height and physical advantage.

I think the kickouts (again) played a big part in this. Even when Lavelle went long he was putting a low trajectory on his kicks which completely negated the height and size advantage Galway had around the middle. He was putting kickouts straight into the bread basket of Roscommon players. They didn't even have to jump for a lot of them.

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Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 11, 2017, 01:35:39 PM

Quote from: Hound on July 11, 2017, 09:42:30 AM

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 06:37:47 PM
That first goal didn't reflect well on Galway either, you've got to give credit to Murtagh for a brilliant pass and Connolly for the finish but leaving one defender inside our own 45 when playing against the wind is brainless.

I thought that pass from Murtagh was sensational. One of the highlights of the championship to date, and topped off with a lovely finish.

While Enda Smith caught some unbelieveable ball, he turned over an awful lot of it. So still room for improvement.

I thought Kilroy 11 and McManus 3 were huge players for Roscommon. Won a sea of ball around the middle, dominating the breaks and usually used it really well (I know McManus kicked one handy pass straight over the sideline, but otherwise didn't do much wrong).

Although my favourite player of the day was Shane Walsh. Playing on a rubbish team (on the day) he managed to shine like a beacon.

Still can't get my head around how bad we were in the middle considering the obvious height and physical advantage.

I think the kickouts (again) played a big part in this. Even when Lavelle went long he was putting a low trajectory on his kicks which completely negated the height and size advantage Galway had around the middle. He was putting kickouts straight into the bread basket of Roscommon players. They didn't even have to jump for a lot of them.

Prime example being the 2nd goal, I saw an article yesterday somewhere criticising Lavelle for his starting position when taking a kickout as it left him unable to kick it Heaney who was the only free man. In fairness to Lavelle the movement in front of him isn't good enough, the likes of Silke, Sweeney, Kyne & O'Donnell are too slow off the mark. We're certainly lacking some pace in the backs.

Quote from: Syferus on July 11, 2017, 01:44:50 PM
There was only a couple occasions where Enda turned the ball over Hound, and I've watched the match enough times to know that for definite now. One was near the end when I don't even know how he was still running at all and the ball slipped away from him, it had feck all to do with Galway because his markers could barely lay a hand on him. His hands in absolutely brutal Salthill conditions where honestly incredible. He might have put in the single best performance by a Roscommon player that I've seen in my life.

I suppose you wouldn't know much about how wet and windy a match in Salthill is, though..  ;D

How many outstanding rossie performances would that encompass, syf?

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Quote from: Hound on July 11, 2017, 09:42:30 AM

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 06:37:47 PM
That first goal didn't reflect well on Galway either, you've got to give credit to Murtagh for a brilliant pass and Connolly for the finish but leaving one defender inside our own 45 when playing against the wind is brainless.

I thought that pass from Murtagh was sensational. One of the highlights of the championship to date, and topped off with a lovely finish.

While Enda Smith caught some unbelieveable ball, he turned over an awful lot of it. So still room for improvement.

I thought Kilroy 11 and McManus 3 were huge players for Roscommon. Won a sea of ball around the middle, dominating the breaks and usually used it really well (I know McManus kicked one handy pass straight over the sideline, but otherwise didn't do much wrong).

Although my favourite player of the day was Shane Walsh. Playing on a rubbish team (on the day) he managed to shine like a beacon.

Will probably watch it again at some stage but initial reaction that Enda Smith got on a lot more ball than anyone else around the middle, agree on Shane Walsh. Considering Walsh is predominantly right footed he kicked a great free against the wind with his left, ability wise he can be on the best players in the country but he's got a long way to go before that happens. Considering Gough was dishing out yellows for nothing all day I couldn't believe it when he didn't speak to the Roscommon man who siphoned Walsh down midway through the 2nd half.

Still can't get my head around how bad we were in the middle considering the obvious height and physical advantage. We were dreadful but you have to give Roscommon as they had done their homework on galway's kickouts although it probably didn't take McStay long to work it out. Galway's kickout plan or lack of it is by far the most frustrating aspect of Walsh's reign.

I know it is two years ago, but the same thing happened when Galway last played Donegal in a qualifier. It was at Croke Park and Donegal absolutely cleaned Galway at midfield and similar to last Sunday won a huge chunk of the balls that were not fielded cleanly.
Don't have the exact Galway lineout, but I believe a fair few of last Sunday's team were playing. I do remember Shane Walsh was injured and only came on when game was practically over.

What's Galway's trouble with keepers about? You've three with significant starting experience on the panel now yet whoever is in goal they seem like an accident waiting to happen. For all our troubles over the years we've tended to have decent keepers, be it Thompson, Cake, Claffey, O'Malley and now Lavin.

Lavin in particular is a good example of a keeper who has been coached up and improved significantly in the last year or two. At U21 be wasn't using his size particularly well aerially, yet now he's much more safe under high balls. His kick-outs have improved as the season has progressed too, albeit he had a few poor ones in Galway's purple patch in the second half. Why can't Galway find a keeper they can develop into someone other teams don't look at as their ticket to a win?

Jim Mc Guinness in the Irish Times


https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/jim-mcguinness-even-beijing-felt-force-of-roscommon-s-win-1.3149722

" It was interesting to read Kevin McStay saying they had challenged Enda Smith to release the potential they knew he had in the weeks before this game.
They were planting ideas and backing him and enabling him, really, to give the towering display he ultimately gave in Salthill. To me, that's good coaching. It might seem simple in retrospect but it was hugely important.
You can be sure they were doing the same with other players. They had a clear game plan and even if they wobbled a bit after going 1-6 ahead, the execution at the end of their time in training was the last piece of the jigsaw. I'm sure how they used the criticism and the hurt emanating from that was crucial too. You have to be able to channel negative emotions for your own use. Sometimes you can do that by asking questions. Have they the right to say that about us? Is that who we are?
And it all came together for them on Sunday afternoon.
..for some reason when I checked my watch, I had that vision of down town Roscommon on a warm July night and probably a few hundred straw hats knocking about and the pub doors still open and the guards turning a blind eye and a real buzz throughout the county. That sense of accomplishment that belongs to the entire county, that thing of: 'We did it. We got there'.
That's what Kevin McStay and Roscommon managed to create over the past few weeks.
That's unbeatable."

Quote from: Syferus on July 11, 2017, 03:28:00 PM
What's Galway's trouble with keepers about? You've three with significant starting experience on the panel now yet whoever is in goal they seem like an accident waiting to happen. For all our troubles over the years we've tended to have decent keepers, be it Thompson, Cake, Claffey, O'Malley and now Lavin.

Lavin in particular is a good example of a keeper who has been coached up and improved significantly in the last year or two. At U21 be wasn't using his size particularly well aerially, yet now he's much more safe under high balls. His kick-outs have improved as the season has progressed too, albeit he had a few poor ones in Galway's purple patch in the second half. Why can't Galway find a keeper they can develop into someone other teams  don't look at as their ticket to a win?

Very good question. It's hard to believe we're so weak in that position.
All 3 on the panel now have had games where they've cost the team several scores due to a combination of terrible kickouts and/or mistakes.
Adrian Faherty is probably the last keeper we had that I thought was reasonably competent.
He hasn't played I think since the 2012 defeat to Antrim.
As far as I know he is still living in London.

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Quote from: Syferus on July 11, 2017, 03:28:00 PM
What's Galway's trouble with keepers about? You've three with significant starting experience on the panel now yet whoever is in goal they seem like an accident waiting to happen. For all our troubles over the years we've tended to have decent keepers, be it Thompson, Cake, Claffey, O'Malley and now Lavin.

Lavin in particular is a good example of a keeper who has been coached up and improved significantly in the last year or two. At U21 be wasn't using his size particularly well aerially, yet now he's much more safe under high balls. His kick-outs have improved as the season has progressed too, albeit he had a few poor ones in Galway's purple patch in the second half. Why can't Galway find a keeper they can develop into someone other teams  don't look at as their ticket to a win?

Very good question. It's hard to believe we're so weak in that position.
All 3 on the panel now have had games where they've cost the team several scores due to a combination of terrible kickouts and/or mistakes.
Adrian Faherty is probably the last keeper we had that I thought was reasonably competent.
He hasn't played I think since the 2012 defeat to Antrim.
As far as I know he is still living in London.

Ye'd want to be getting him a job at home or even looking to see if there's any good club soccer keepers because there's been so many tried at this stage Walsh can't be overlooking a great club keeper.

Declan O'Keeffe former Kerry goalkeeper was brought into the Roscommon management team this year, out of interest who is the goalkeeping coach for Galway?

Quote from: joemamas on July 11, 2017, 03:19:47 PM

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 11, 2017, 01:35:39 PM

Quote from: Hound on July 11, 2017, 09:42:30 AM

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 06:37:47 PM
That first goal didn't reflect well on Galway either, you've got to give credit to Murtagh for a brilliant pass and Connolly for the finish but leaving one defender inside our own 45 when playing against the wind is brainless.

I thought that pass from Murtagh was sensational. One of the highlights of the championship to date, and topped off with a lovely finish.

While Enda Smith caught some unbelieveable ball, he turned over an awful lot of it. So still room for improvement.

I thought Kilroy 11 and McManus 3 were huge players for Roscommon. Won a sea of ball around the middle, dominating the breaks and usually used it really well (I know McManus kicked one handy pass straight over the sideline, but otherwise didn't do much wrong).

Although my favourite player of the day was Shane Walsh. Playing on a rubbish team (on the day) he managed to shine like a beacon.

Will probably watch it again at some stage but initial reaction that Enda Smith got on a lot more ball than anyone else around the middle, agree on Shane Walsh. Considering Walsh is predominantly right footed he kicked a great free against the wind with his left, ability wise he can be on the best players in the country but he's got a long way to go before that happens. Considering Gough was dishing out yellows for nothing all day I couldn't believe it when he didn't speak to the Roscommon man who siphoned Walsh down midway through the 2nd half.

Still can't get my head around how bad we were in the middle considering the obvious height and physical advantage. We were dreadful but you have to give Roscommon as they had done their homework on galway's kickouts although it probably didn't take McStay long to work it out. Galway's kickout plan or lack of it is by far the most frustrating aspect of Walsh's reign.

I know it is two years ago, but the same thing happened when Galway last played Donegal in a qualifier. It was at Croke Park and Donegal absolutely cleaned Galway at midfield and similar to last Sunday won a huge chunk of the balls that were not fielded cleanly.
Don't have the exact Galway lineout, but I believe a fair few of last Sunday's team were playing. I do remember Shane Walsh was injured and only came on when game was practically over.

Just had a look and 8 of the team who started on Sunday started in 15 against Donegal. I thought we were bullied physically that day around the middle especially in the 2nd half, think its a different problem we have now. We did well around the middle against Mayo, probably just about shaded it so to be cleaned out by a team who lack anyone physically imposing around the middle is pathetic. GalwayBayBoy has got it right about the trajectory of many of Lavelle's kickouts.

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 11, 2017, 01:35:39 PM

Quote from: Hound on July 11, 2017, 09:42:30 AM

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2017, 06:37:47 PM
That first goal didn't reflect well on Galway either, you've got to give credit to Murtagh for a brilliant pass and Connolly for the finish but leaving one defender inside our own 45 when playing against the wind is brainless.

I thought that pass from Murtagh was sensational. One of the highlights of the championship to date, and topped off with a lovely finish.

While Enda Smith caught some unbelieveable ball, he turned over an awful lot of it. So still room for improvement.

I thought Kilroy 11 and McManus 3 were huge players for Roscommon. Won a sea of ball around the middle, dominating the breaks and usually used it really well (I know McManus kicked one handy pass straight over the sideline, but otherwise didn't do much wrong).

Although my favourite player of the day was Shane Walsh. Playing on a rubbish team (on the day) he managed to shine like a beacon.

Will probably watch it again at some stage but initial reaction that Enda Smith got on a lot more ball than anyone else around the middle, agree on Shane Walsh. Considering Walsh is predominantly right footed he kicked a great free against the wind with his left, ability wise he can be on the best players in the country but he's got a long way to go before that happens. Considering Gough was dishing out yellows for nothing all day I couldn't believe it when he didn't speak to the Roscommon man who siphoned Walsh down midway through the 2nd half.

Still can't get my head around how bad we were in the middle considering the obvious height and physical advantage. We were dreadful but you have to give Roscommon as they had done their homework on galway's kickouts although it probably didn't take McStay long to work it out. Galway's kickout plan or lack of it is by far the most frustrating aspect of Walsh's reign.

How often have you actually seen Enda Smith, Manc? The lad is 6'3' and significantly more athletic than any of Galway's midfielders. The false narrative about the midfield was something I told you plainly about before the match, and wasn't really that much of a concern for Roscommon supporters as they had a lot of faith in Smith and TOR, who is far more in the mould of a modern mobile midfielder than FOC or Flynn are. And make no mistake, both are big strong lads too but they're more than simply that. The only concern in the middle was picking up those two and Conroy, but John Mac nullifying Flynn solved that problem for us.

We actually cut nearly all of our old style midfielders (and FFs) from the panel this year for one reason or another, and they will likely only return if their fitness levels are high enough to replicate what someone like TOR does in terms of all-round horse-work.

You're living in the past where a big talll lad meant you'd win the middle, they're massive defensive liabilities the way and the pace at which the sport is now played. Speed kills, and the lack if it kills a team too.

It's telling about where the sport has went that in 2001 the hero was Seamie O'Neill, as textbook a big wide midfielder as you will ever find, but in 2017 it's someone who is a footballer and athlete first in Enda Smith.

disagree sy. plenty worried about the middle third. would also argue that the the mark means there is a place again for the less mobile big man in the middle more so than the last number of years.

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on July 11, 2017, 09:48:32 PM
disagree sy. plenty worried about the middle third. would also argue that the the mark means there is a place again for the less mobile big man in the middle more so than the last number of years.

Ah PHP, I've seen more of a role for mobile HBs and HFs peeling away and getting marks than a major uptick in the value of big, slow midfielders because of the new rules.

Brian Stack did this on multiple occasions on Sunday, and he's not short but he's as young a lad as there was on the field. When you see what Dublin are doing on restarts, and they are the best team in the country by a distance, the writing is on the wall for the Michael Finnerans or Seamie O'Neills of the sport.

For our game in particular a big slow, midfielder would be counter to the sort of game we want to play. I still think we need some depth at midfield but our two starters are a great compliment to each other.

It will be really interesting to see how Ros get on the next day.
Connacht football is not developing in a business as usual fashion as the Mayo team ages. For 5 years they ruled the roost  unchallenged but in the last 2 years they have been tangoed twice in one off matches by Galway who in turn were tangoed by Roscommon. The championship is like the world cup. You need to be able to beat everyone rather than perfecting the performance on just one day , feeding months of preparation into it.  Can Ros replicate the performance   the next day ? Or is beating Galway in a Connacht final enough ? 

Quote from: seafoid on July 12, 2017, 08:50:43 AM
It will be really interesting to see how Ros get on the next day.
Connacht football is not developing in a business as usual fashion as the Mayo team ages. For 5 years they ruled the roost  unchallenged but in the last 2 years they have been tangoed twice in one off matches by Galway who in turn were tangoed by Roscommon. The championship is like the world cup. You need to be able to beat everyone rather than perfecting the performance on just one day , feeding months of preparation into it.  Can Ros replicate the performance   the next day ? Or is beating Galway in a Connacht final enough ?

Do you still think you'll see another Galway picture up in Sheridans in the next few years ?

Quote from: seafoid on July 12, 2017, 08:50:43 AM
It will be really interesting to see how Ros get on the next day.
Connacht football is not developing in a business as usual fashion as the Mayo team ages. For 5 years they ruled the roost  unchallenged but in the last 2 years they have been tangoed twice in one off matches by Galway who in turn were tangoed by Roscommon. The championship is like the world cup. You need to be able to beat everyone rather than perfecting the performance on just one day , feeding months of preparation into it.  Can Ros replicate the performance   the next day ? Or is beating Galway in a Connacht final enough ?

Mayo in those 5 years sailed close to wind in a few games in Connacht. London,Roscommon 2011,Sligo 2012 and Roscommon 2014. Galway showed their first signs of improvement in Connacht two summers ago when a bit of freak of goal was telling difference between themselves and Mayo.

What both Galway and Roscommon need to do now is to produce a few decent wins and performances in Croke park. This current Mayo panel made its breakthrough by beating the defending AI champions Cork in Croke park in 2011 and since then they have been a top 4 championship team.

Quote from: ballinaman on July 12, 2017, 10:15:05 AM

Quote from: seafoid on July 12, 2017, 08:50:43 AM
It will be really interesting to see how Ros get on the next day.
Connacht football is not developing in a business as usual fashion as the Mayo team ages. For 5 years they ruled the roost  unchallenged but in the last 2 years they have been tangoed twice in one off matches by Galway who in turn were tangoed by Roscommon. The championship is like the world cup. You need to be able to beat everyone rather than perfecting the performance on just one day , feeding months of preparation into it.  Can Ros replicate the performance   the next day ? Or is beating Galway in a Connacht final enough ?

Do you still think you'll see another Galway picture up in Sheridans in the next few years ?

It depends what they learn from this. Things were worse in 1993 for example and look what happened . The u21s could provide a few new backs etc. It takes time to develop experience and galway had very little in recent years. 
I also follow the hurlers. They had a dreadful 2013 and now they are motoring nicely. 

My base case is that Sheridans will get a new photo before any of the pubs in Ballindine.

Quote from: seafoid on July 12, 2017, 02:36:16 PM

Quote from: ballinaman on July 12, 2017, 10:15:05 AM

Quote from: seafoid on July 12, 2017, 08:50:43 AM
It will be really interesting to see how Ros get on the next day.
Connacht football is not developing in a business as usual fashion as the Mayo team ages. For 5 years they ruled the roost  unchallenged but in the last 2 years they have been tangoed twice in one off matches by Galway who in turn were tangoed by Roscommon. The championship is like the world cup. You need to be able to beat everyone rather than perfecting the performance on just one day , feeding months of preparation into it.  Can Ros replicate the performance   the next day ? Or is beating Galway in a Connacht final enough ?

Do you still think you'll see another Galway picture up in Sheridans in the next few years ?

It depends what they learn from this. Things were worse in 1993 for example and look what happened . The u21s could provide a few new backs etc. It takes time to develop experience and galway had very little in recent years. 
I also follow the hurlers. They had a dreadful 2013 and now they are motoring nicely. 

My base case is that Sheridans will get a new photo before any of the pubs in Ballindine.

https://youtu.be/EqrwsGrfv7M

Just realised Galway's last score was after 53 minutes from Comer when we got back to within 3 points. Galway scored 7 points in the first 11 minutes of the 2nd half and only 2 more in the remaining 32 minutes of the game with a wind, christ thats depressing and doesn't reflect well on the management. Thats the second game in a row where we've faded very very badly.

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 12, 2017, 07:13:57 PM
Just realised Galway's last score was after 53 minutes from Comer when we got back to within 3 points. Galway scored 7 points in the first 11 minutes of the 2nd half and only 2 more in the remaining 32 minutes of the game with a wind, christ thats depressing and doesn't reflect well on the management. Thats the second game in a row where we've faded very very badly.

Was the wind that big of a factor? seemed to be more of a swirling wind and not as bad as the Galway Mayo game. Roscommon scored more in the 2nd half 1-8 with 4 wides than they did in the 1st half 1-7 and 9 wides.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 12, 2017, 10:30:16 PM

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 12, 2017, 07:13:57 PM
Just realised Galway's last score was after 53 minutes from Comer when we got back to within 3 points. Galway scored 7 points in the first 11 minutes of the 2nd half and only 2 more in the remaining 32 minutes of the game with a wind, christ thats depressing and doesn't reflect well on the management. Thats the second game in a row where we've faded very very badly.

Was the wind that big of a factor? seemed to be more of a swirling wind and not as bad as the Galway Mayo game. Roscommon scored more in the 2nd half 1-8 with 4 wides than they did in the 1st half 1-7 and 9 wides.

Not as strong as the Mayo game. It actually died down a good bit as the game went on. Was fairly blowing early on alright.

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 12, 2017, 11:18:32 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 12, 2017, 10:30:16 PM

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 12, 2017, 07:13:57 PM
Just realised Galway's last score was after 53 minutes from Comer when we got back to within 3 points. Galway scored 7 points in the first 11 minutes of the 2nd half and only 2 more in the remaining 32 minutes of the game with a wind, christ thats depressing and doesn't reflect well on the management. Thats the second game in a row where we've faded very very badly.

Was the wind that big of a factor? seemed to be more of a swirling wind and not as bad as the Galway Mayo game. Roscommon scored more in the 2nd half 1-8 with 4 wides than they did in the 1st half 1-7 and 9 wides.

Not as strong as the Mayo game. It actually died down a good bit as the game went on. Was fairly blowing early on alright.

It started pissing rain in the second half which made things even worse in many ways, though. If you can play well in Salthill you can play well anywhere as there is no county ground that is in as consistently adverse conditions as Pearse.

Ros players and the Nestor doing the rounds of the Super Valus in the County next Thursday.
Including Super Valu in Ballaghaderreen, Co  Roscommon.

Quote from: Rossfan on July 14, 2017, 06:35:49 PM
Ros players and the Nestor doing the rounds of the Super Valus in the County next Thursday.
Including Super Valu in Ballaghaderreen, Co  Roscommon.

FFS. Will their QF opponents be tooling around their county next Tuesday as well ?

Quote from: Rossfan on July 14, 2017, 06:35:49 PM
Ros players and the Nestor doing the rounds of the Super Valus in the County next Thursday.
Including Super Valu in Ballaghaderreen, Co  Roscommon.

Will they be sober for the QF?

You'll have to work on your sledging if you want a rise from anyone.

Quote from: omagh_gael on July 14, 2017, 06:52:19 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 14, 2017, 06:35:49 PM
Ros players and the Nestor doing the rounds of the Super Valus in the County next Thursday.
Including Super Valu in Ballaghaderreen, Co  Roscommon.

Will they be sober for the QF?

County panels nowadays are either non alcoholic drinkers or consume very little. Modern day footballers for you i suppose.

Quote from: omagh_gael on July 14, 2017, 06:52:19 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 14, 2017, 06:35:49 PM
Ros players and the Nestor doing the rounds of the Super Valus in the County next Thursday.
Including Super Valu in Ballaghaderreen, Co  Roscommon.

Will they be sober for the QF?

closing all the pubs along the route

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 14, 2017, 09:23:07 PM

Quote from: omagh_gael on July 14, 2017, 06:52:19 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 14, 2017, 06:35:49 PM
Ros players and the Nestor doing the rounds of the Super Valus in the County next Thursday.
Including Super Valu in Ballaghaderreen, Co  Roscommon.

Will they be sober for the QF?

closing all the pubs along the route

It's on early in the day.
The lads train Thursday nights.

I see that Ros' last allstar was in 2001 . Presumably Ros would need to win the next day to have a chance of another one

Quote from: seafoid on July 17, 2017, 07:21:13 PM
I see that Ros' last allstar was in 2001 . Presumably Ros would need to win the next day to have a chance of another one

Or have a daily paper or TV Station located in the County.

Galway have disappeared from the radar since that hiding.

I see the professional rubby club in Galway are seeking to build a new Stadium.
Could ye ever sell them the wind tunnel and either redevelop Tuam or else build a new place on the Eastern side of the City.

Quote from: Rossfan on August 17, 2017, 12:41:04 AM
I see the professional rubby club in Galway are seeking to build a new Stadium.
Could ye ever sell them the wind tunnel and either redevelop Tuam or else build a new place on the Eastern side of the City.

I couldn't agree more.