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Just had MRI to confirm my fourth partial ACL tear. First one was 12 years ago' then 2012, 2014 and last month. Physio got me through the last few but it's much sorer this time. Anyone with experience of this? Waiting on an orthopaedic appointment to discuss next steps. In 2014 surgeon said he was 50/50 and basically let me make the call. Keeps going though so I reckon surgery this time. A niggling lower back pain is definitely linked and I have had limited movement in that knee/leg for a decade. Any one know risks and time for recovery?

If you want to participate in multi directional cutting sports...current evidence favours surgery. However surgery accelerates the arthritic process in the knee joint which you need to be aware up. 3 months post surgery you can jog usually , 9-12 months before pitch ready. (Generally)

If you just want to run and do non contact linear sports, running..cycling..ACL deficient knee is absolutely fine. Comes with the caveat of really working hard on your rehab for a sustained period. No accelerated arthritis however .

Thanks ballinaman. That's the toss up - I think surgery will end the associated back pain and enable me to run unencumbered for a few years but arthritis could be accelerated. A bit like getting the eyes lazered!! No longer short sighted but now I need reading glassses!
Sports are done for me so just running. Would running with a knee support help in long term?

Just had MRI to confirm my fourth partial ACL tear. First one was 12 years ago' then 2012, 2014 and last month. Physio got me through the last few but it's much sorer this time. Anyone with experience of this? Waiting on an orthopaedic appointment to discuss next steps. In 2014 surgeon said he was 50/50 and basically let me make the call. Keeps going though so I reckon surgery this time. A niggling lower back pain is definitely linked and I have had limited movement in that knee/leg for a decade. Any one know risks and time for recovery?

It was well out of order. At worst, it was a calculated insult because Mickey Harte had clashed with RTE before. At best, it was inconsiderate, and ignorant of the circumstances.

RTE should have apologised for it, in a real way, rather than the 'if you took offense we're sooooo soooorrrry'.

They did apologise, what do you want? The dj in question sacked? That's obviously what harte wanted or carthy installed as big game commentator. It was one person on rte who was insensitive towards the harte family but of course he holds a vendetta against the whole company.

Their apology, unless I'm mistaken, was 'If you were offended, we're sorry you were offended'. That's not an apology, that's weasel stuff.

Don't think it was as weak as stated. They stated they recognised it was offensive to him and thus sincerely regret any offence caused. Some people I think the second part (i.e. any offence caused) which on its own is very weak, but when read in full, I think it's a full apology. Of course, totally up to Mickey whether to accept or not.
No question the presenter was very badly at fault, but maybe holding a grudge against RTE so long is a bit much. It's not like the presenter was told by RTE to do it.

Apology in full:

RTÉ Radio 1′s John Murray Show presents, each morning, a satirical and humorous synopsis of the day's big news stories. On June 9 the programme covered a widely reported controversy involving Mickey Harte.

RTÉ understands and appreciates that the item offended Mr Harte. It is never RTÉ's intention to knowingly offend any individual, and RTÉ sincerely regrets any offence caused. This sincere regret was immediately and personally communicated to Mr Harte by RTÉ management.

RTÉ wishes to clarify that it did not leak the contents of the letter referred to in today's statement by the Tyrone GAA Senior Football Management and Players. RTÉ treated the correspondence as private and confidential, and was mindful of the need for discretion in all public statements it was called upon to make.

It is RTÉ's hope that, in the public interest of all those who follow gaelic games, the matter can be resolved.

They regret that  Mickey Harte found it offensive, not that it happened. Typical weasel faced ass pr and marketing department guff.

How much of a factor is the Carthy thing in this or is it purely relating to his daughter?

Really you would hope it gets resolved as it makes a farce of things leading up to an AI.

Does harte want an apology or as it stands what does it take to resolve it? My understanding was Carthy was the main factor but I could be wrong on that.

yes carthy was the original one in may 2011 then rte got back at harte in august 2011 which basically elevated the stand off.

There's been a lot of 'guff' directed at Tyrone and personally at Mickey Harte in subsequent years from prominent pundits that have exacerbated the situation. Apparently the falling attendances, boring games, death of the corner forward are all Mickey Harte's fault.

Definitely for adults that one!

Anyone attempt Disenchantment- the new Matt Groening animated show? Watched the first two episodes and it's fair to say they were 'meh'. Got a serious push by Netflix- every billboard in Ireland carrying an advert for this one!

My understanding is that the players and background team make their own choices about their contact with RTE?
In terms of issuing an apology, RTÉ did the classic media trick of apologising 'if offence was caused' thereby insinuating that they didn't see it as offensive and backing the DJ who wasn't reprimanded in any way. The subsequent 'Tyrone bashing' has just gone to stiffen resolve.

It was - Kielty managed that so well - said he had a young team and it was his role to protect them from the distraction - he explained it better than that!

RTE continue to offer the olive branch although they never actually apologised after 2011. Is Mickey Harte right to continue to snub the national broadcaster given his deep faith and commitment to forgiveness? Are the Tyrone Board and players/staff correct to follow suit? Are Cavanagh, Jordan etc who do work for RTE in some capacity disloyal to the Tyrone manager?
Discuss!

Got home in 3.38! Delighted. My third time applying and training for Dublin and the first time I actually made the start. Had terrible preparation - only 8 runs in the whole of October and one of those was the marathon! I knew I'd struggle beyond 18 and just dug in. The 3.30 pacers passed me in a blur at mile 19 and I really struggled with that - dropped to 9+ minute miles even though I felt I was going faster. Enjoyed the experience and the atmosphere was fantastic. Huge crowds and great organisation.
Came down stairs to get a drink and can't get back up again!

In Radison Blu myself in a couple of weeks - need to do 18 on Sunday morning. I'll check out that route through Union Wood. Is that anywhere near where the Parkrun is?

While she deservedly won the NPP for her work for the poorest of the poor in Kolkata, the notion of Sainthood based on approved 'miracles' is ridiculous. Being made a 'saint' on the basis of her undoubtedly great work (despite antiquated and unhelpful views about divorce, abortion and contraception) is fine by me, but surely the church needs to let go of the whole miracle thing. I mean, come on!

Rock doing very well.

You'd imagine Dublin's fitness will tell in the last ten if they can keep their heads

I'd take experience over fitness any day

*cough cough

Hah! Humbled! Fitness told there for sure! Great game!

Some score from Connolly! Delighted the game wasn't won by a Donkey like O'Gara. Well done Dublin - they'll absolutely tank Mayo.

F&*$ off!

lOl! Sorry bunker - you know yourself!

Some score from Connolly! Delighted the game wasn't won by a Donkey like O'Gara. Well done Dublin - they'll absolutely tank Mayo.