FAI...New Manager Hunt continues

Started by CĂșig huaire, November 19, 2009, 01:34:00 PM

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SHEEDY

Very poor. Ireland were all huff and puff with no end product. Shane long gets a few mins at the end of must win game. Explain that one please.
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Syferus

I don't know why I watch the Irish soccer team anymore. It's at best boring and at worst depressing.

screenexile

I can see why we played that style with Jack Charlton because at least we were getting results... That was utter rubbish from both sides!

Shane Long and McClean not starting says all you need to know O'Neill was hoping to nick a set piece then keep tight to the end. He wasn't able to do that!

From the Bunker

Quote from: Syferus on June 13, 2015, 07:03:57 PM
I don't know why I watch the Irish soccer team anymore. It's at best boring and at worst depressing.

I agree. But you have to remember we are spoiled with (the best football in the world in) champions league football week in week out for the last couple of months. International football is always going to be a come down from watching that. Also we have an emotional attachment and this often spoils the spectacle as you are under edge (especially with Ireland) watching it.

T Fearon

You'd have to wonder if O'Neill was the messiah after all.He never took Celtic out of the group stages of Champs League,despite having far better players and more resources than Strachan and Lennon who both did.Also there was the unforgivable loss of the SPL title in the dying minutes ten years ago?

At best his best days are long gone and a younger manager more in tune with contemporary ways is required.

J70

Quote from: Syferus on June 13, 2015, 07:03:57 PM
I don't know why I watch the Irish soccer team anymore. It's at best boring and at worst depressing.

Been like that since McCarthy left.

And I actually thought at the time that Brian Kerr was the nadir!

laoislad

Quote from: T Fearon on June 13, 2015, 08:30:58 PM
You'd have to wonder if O'Neill was the messiah after all.He never took Celtic out of the group stages of Champs League,despite having far better players and more resources than Strachan and Lennon who both did.Also there was the unforgivable loss of the SPL title in the dying minutes ten years ago?

At best his best days are long gone and a younger manager more in tune with contemporary ways is required.
I've been saying it for years. He is nowhere as near good as people think he is.
What has even actually achieved?
His best is probably with Leicester winning the Coca Cola Cup or whatever it was called then and that's not something to write home about.
It was criminal not playing Long today. Also I don't know why so many are asking for McClean to start. The guy is a header and can hardly make a relegated from the championship Wigan team ffs.
Oh and Scott Brown is a t**ser.
Laois getting hammered now also. What a f**king day  ::)
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

From the Bunker

Quote from: laoislad on June 13, 2015, 08:47:14 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on June 13, 2015, 08:30:58 PM
You'd have to wonder if O'Neill was the messiah after all.He never took Celtic out of the group stages of Champs League,despite having far better players and more resources than Strachan and Lennon who both did.Also there was the unforgivable loss of the SPL title in the dying minutes ten years ago?

At best his best days are long gone and a younger manager more in tune with contemporary ways is required.
I've been saying it for years. He is nowhere as near good as people think he is.
What has even actually achieved?
His best is probably with Leicester winning the Coca Cola Cup or whatever it was called then and that's not something to write home about.
It was criminal not playing Long today. Also I don't know why so many are asking for McClean to start. The guy is a header and can hardly make a relegated from the championship Wigan team ffs.
Oh and Scott Brown is a t**ser.
Laois getting hammered now also. What a f**king day  ::)

Go have a few pints LL. It's only football after all! There are more important things in life (so the wife tells me anyway).

T Fearon

I'd say Michael O'Neill is a better bet than Martin at this stage.A clone of Brian Clough might have been good back in the day,but totally obsolete in the modern era

tiempo

Don't watch ROI play footy but if MON didn't start Long then they deserve to go out.
Yet another manager too stubborn for his own good.

thewobbler

Was just thinking that it looks like Shane Long is this year's Wes Houlahan, who was last year's Stephen Ireland, who was that year's Andy Reid, who was that year's Lee Carsley, who was that year's Mark Kennedy, who was that year's Stephen McPhail.

Players who fans become increasing determined are the missing link, when all evidence suggests they are just another average player.

I like Long. It'd be hard not to. But a striker with a below average scoring record is actually not the missing link.

annapr

#4271
Long plays in a team that finished top 7 in the Premier League, has played and scored in places like Anfield, Old Trafford etc. He will play in Europe next year. Daryl Murphy plays for Ipswich in the Championship and was a failure at Sunderland.
With the excellent crosses from Brady today you needed someone like Long to be on the end of them.

Ireland have too many average players.
Marc Wilson is a dreadful player and nowhere near international standard,same with Whelan.
John O'Shea is also past it.

rodney trotter

They will be 4th seeds for the WC qualifiers if it stays like this. Given, O Shea, Whelan, Murphy, Walters, from the team that started were over 30, Robbie Keane another. F all coming through as well, Grealish won't declare for Ireland.

mouview

Quote from: J70 on June 13, 2015, 08:40:41 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 13, 2015, 07:03:57 PM
I don't know why I watch the Irish soccer team anymore. It's at best boring and at worst depressing.

Been like that since McCarthy left.

And I actually thought at the time that Brian Kerr was the nadir!

Been like that since before the Charlton era. Eoin Hand had many, many critics but the players he had and the style they played with was infinitely greater than what has been going on here since. Association football just isn't a 'Home nations' sport anymore, all of the teams are varying degrees of rubbish with us probably at the bottom.

There is a season ticket for Irish internationals?  <<shudder>>


tiempo

Quote from: thewobbler on June 13, 2015, 10:13:13 PM
Was just thinking that it looks like Shane Long is this year's Wes Houlahan, who was last year's Stephen Ireland, who was that year's Andy Reid, who was that year's Lee Carsley, who was that year's Mark Kennedy, who was that year's Stephen McPhail.

Players who fans become increasing determined are the missing link, when all evidence suggests they are just another average player.

I like Long. It'd be hard not to. But a striker with a below average scoring record is actually not the missing link.

The missing link to what? No-one expects ROI to win the Euros or WC but putting their best team out and having a go would be an acceptable starting point. Long, Houlahan, Ireland, Reid, Carsley and Kennedy were all overlooked when clearly outperforming their peers, and typically in favour of negative fear driven tactics. McPhail doesn't fit bill for that comparison.