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5 now actually.
What the hell is going on today?

[Penalty all day long im afraid.]

Penalty all day long im afraid. Its funny how when you go outside the English media they all agree...

From CBS
"Former FIFA referee Christina Unkel, however, explained to U.S. broadcaster CBS why it was the right call according to the current laws of the game.

"It is a penalty," she said. "The extended left arm effectively creates a barrier. Once that arm is out, even though there is a deflection, that is no longer part of the interpretation or the analysis. I know it's one that many don't like and it's something that the International Football Association Board (the sport's lawmakers) are looking at."


And then there's this from American website Sporting News...
Newcastle fans won't want to hear it, but a penalty was the correct decision from veteran referee Szymon Marciniak, as the rule is currently written.

Neither intent nor advantage gained are considered a factor when adjudicating handball decisions under the current rule, and therefore the decision was made that such a deflection was the proper call.


"It IS a penalty, under the current interpretations of the rule," explained CBS Sports rules expert Christina Unkel on the network's postgame show in the United States. "An extended left arm that essentially creates a barrier...once that left arm is out, even though there is a deflection — that no longer is part of the interpretation and analysis — but since it's a barrier preventing that ball from crossing in, this is an expected VAR recommendation for a handling offense that the referee is not able to see from his angle and positioning."

Tino Livramento's arm was up and extended from his body, and thus in an "unnatural" position according to the current interpretation of the rules


Meanwhile here we are subjected to Shearer, Pardew and the like roaring "it's a disgrace!!" and how it wasn't a penalty in their day without giving any reason why.

I think if anyone liverpool will push them this year. They've improved significantly since last year. The rebuild klopp has done in midfield has been incredible.

Liverpools defence is giving up too many chances and don't have a proper 6.

I don't even think a good number 6 is needed in the new system when you've 2 of the best number 8s in the league. Teams are constantly on the back foot against it.

I think if anyone liverpool will push them this year. They've improved significantly since last year. The rebuild klopp has done in midfield has been incredible.

City going to win this league easy, if they don't get a points deduction.
But it would make some league if they did get the points deduction they deserve. Arsenal and Liverpool would probably be joint favs,  but neither are overly good, so the likes of Spurs, Newcastle, even Villa and United would think they'd have a chance.

I don't think they will win it easily at all. They've lost twice already and we're not even in December yet. Their record against title rivals so far has been poor (W0 D1 L1). They play Spurs next so maybe will pick up a win there.
They just aren't the ruthless juggernaut they used to be.

Well, 118 pages in. Has anyone's lives been enriched or improved by posting or reading anything in this thread?

The greatest sportsperson Ireland has ever produced does it again.

Obviously never heard of Cascarino!!

Or Jason McAteer

Yous are all wrong.

Its Finbarr McConnell.

Conor mcgregor says if government does not act soon he will.

Aye he will aye.

Here's how the story developed online yesterday...

https://x.com/care2much18/status/1728134867429560334?s=46&t=phQ2HHkWD0UVsLqr_FKpag

Everything wrong with social media and the modern world in 1 thread.

Over 13,000 homeless in Ireland     https://t.co/R0P2HWjPUL

Maybe they should fix that problem before more people enter the country

That'd Be too  sensible , Dave

And there it is!! 2 men that would likely step over a homeless person if they met them suddenly want them housed before letting in any more immigrants.
Class stuff.

Question is... why is it one or the other?

What does ANY of this have to do with yesterday?

750k foreign nationals in Ireland
1.5 million Irish foreigners abroad

We have a emigration problem, not an immigration problem

Government should deport the scumbags rioting. Bet you any money none of those scumbags have a job or contribute to society in any meaningful way. Their cheerleader McGregor should do one as well.

Deport them to where?
Far as I could see there werent't too many non-white rioters?

Rockall.

There's half eight.  I wonder are any of the rioters up yet?

32 are in court this morning.

No mucking about.

[they do integrate into the country and contribute heavily.]

I have always been fascinated when people argue against controlling borders. Almost immediately the word racist is used when anyone suggests improved controls

Majority of countries in the world have strict border controls and set criteria for entering.

Also when irish people immigrate they do integrate into the country and contribute heavily. Can that be said of all people immigrating to ireland ?

No they don't. For the most part the socialise exclusively with other Irish people. They play Irish sports, go out in Irish bars, go to special food places which import Irish food. I know several, including family members.

They definitely contribute heavily as they are often working in construction, bars etc. Look st the positive impact the irish had on America and in Australia. They cant go and claim benefits in other countries so they have to work. The may socialize with their own sometimes as their believe system and language are often the same they integrate far better than say a non English speaking person who moves into an English speaking country.

I know lots of irish people in Australia, America and Canada who have married locals and who make friends. That is intergrating.

That's great. The same happens here too though. There are loads of marriages here between Irish and non Irish.