americas problem with communism?

Started by lawnseed, December 23, 2011, 11:07:53 PM

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lawnseed

why do Americans hate communism so much? there are some brilliant documentaries on sky at the minute detailing the rise of the united states since its Independence. the wars it fought in.. and who it fought.. in all cases the US has seen the rise of communism as thee biggest threat and were more than willing to commit troops to various conflicts in an effort to prevent it spreading or in some cases resorting to assassination of democratically elected Representatives . I'm wondering what the problem is? over the last 70 years half the worlds population have lived under communism and for most part have got along equally as well as us here in the "free west". capitalism has failed western society, the pryamid that the rich clamber to stay on top of.. the sides of which are getting steeper and more slippery daily. is it that America is run by the banks and it is 'they' infact who see communism as the threat? we have n.Korea labled 'communist' when it is infact a dictatorship it is no more communist than Kentucky. it seems handy to point to the hardship of the north Koreans and say thats communism for you. so whats the story?     imo the problem seems to be corruption and greed.
communism in its purest form is fare and sustainable but corruption and cronyism destroys and undermines what it tries to achieve.
here in ireland we have democracy and free trade and yet cronyism and corruption have destroyed us also. so it follows that the real enemy of all systems of governance is corruption and yet no one has went to war to tackle it and here in ireland we cant even prosecute those who are patently guilty of destroying a country. 
A coward dies a thousand deaths a soldier only dies once

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Quote from: hardstation on December 23, 2011, 11:09:29 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on December 23, 2011, 11:07:53 PM
why do Americans hate communism so much?
'Cos it doesn't work.

Its up there with extreme-capitalism, religion and Jedward for being stupid.

Seems we have exposed another Shinner red-under-the-bed  ;)
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

el_cuervo_fc

Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 23, 2011, 11:15:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 23, 2011, 11:09:29 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on December 23, 2011, 11:07:53 PM
why do Americans hate communism so much?
'Cos it doesn't work.

It up there with extreme-Capitalism, religion and Jedward for being stupid.

Human nature dictates that the ideal wouldn't work.

There will always be corruption.

lawnseed

Quote from: hardstation on December 23, 2011, 11:09:29 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on December 23, 2011, 11:07:53 PM
why do Americans hate communism so much?
'Cos it doesn't work.
a simplistic view. but why are they so worried what other countries do or what system of governance they have? the us deals/trades happily with many fifedoms where there is no democracy
A coward dies a thousand deaths a soldier only dies once

Tony Baloney

It is the antithesis of The American Dream is why they hate it.

lawnseed

Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on December 23, 2011, 11:22:48 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 23, 2011, 11:15:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 23, 2011, 11:09:29 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on December 23, 2011, 11:07:53 PM
why do Americans hate communism so much?
'Cos it doesn't work.

It up there with extreme-Capitalism, religion and Jedward for being stupid.

Human nature dictates that the ideal wouldn't work.

There will always be corruption.
then surely the corrupt should be prosecuted with the full force of the law and sentancing for corruption should be equal to that for murder since corruption is every societys problem
A coward dies a thousand deaths a soldier only dies once

el_cuervo_fc

Quote from: lawnseed on December 23, 2011, 11:27:07 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on December 23, 2011, 11:22:48 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 23, 2011, 11:15:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 23, 2011, 11:09:29 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on December 23, 2011, 11:07:53 PM
why do Americans hate communism so much?
'Cos it doesn't work.

It up there with extreme-Capitalism, religion and Jedward for being stupid.

Human nature dictates that the ideal wouldn't work.

There will always be corruption.
then surely the corrupt should be prosecuted with the full force of the law and sentancing for corruption should be equal to that for murder since corruption is every societys problem

It's the ones at the top though. They hold all the cards

theskull1

It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

lawnseed

Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 23, 2011, 11:26:03 PM
It is the antithesis of The American Dream is why they hate it.
so what is the american dream? a society where poor folk cant see a doctor? americans see the national health system as communism. granny dumping? re the film 'sickos'
A coward dies a thousand deaths a soldier only dies once

lawnseed

Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 23, 2011, 11:15:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 23, 2011, 11:09:29 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on December 23, 2011, 11:07:53 PM
why do Americans hate communism so much?
'Cos it doesn't work.

Its up there with extreme-capitalism, religion and Jedward for being stupid.

Seems we have exposed another Shinner red-under-the-bed  ;)
who's "we"
A coward dies a thousand deaths a soldier only dies once

el_cuervo_fc

Quote from: theskull1 on December 23, 2011, 11:30:57 PM
Not far away from capitalism then

The greater the power the greater the sense of entitlement. Works for communism or capitalism

mayogodhelpus@gmail.com

Quote from: lawnseed on December 23, 2011, 11:32:34 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 23, 2011, 11:15:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 23, 2011, 11:09:29 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on December 23, 2011, 11:07:53 PM
why do Americans hate communism so much?
'Cos it doesn't work.

Its up there with extreme-capitalism, religion and Jedward for being stupid.

Seems we have exposed another Shinner red-under-the-bed  ;)
who's "we"

Lawnseed,do you actually think communism has a place in Ireland?
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

mayogodhelpus@gmail.com

Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 23, 2011, 11:26:03 PM
It is the antithesis of The American Dream is why they hate it.

Take other peoples stuff. O, actually that's Communism too.
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

Ulick

The problem with communism and contrary to popular belief it has never been tried. That so many people seem to think that communist states have existed display nothing more than complete ignorance of what it is or entails. The Yanks problem with it is that it abolishes the need to make a profit from the sale of products and hence would abolish privileged based on wealth. A turkey is never going to vote for Christmas.

lawnseed

Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 23, 2011, 11:36:02 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 23, 2011, 11:26:03 PM
It is the antithesis of The American Dream is why they hate it.

Take other peoples stuff. O, actually that's Communism too.
i think you've made my point. now whats the solution? getting sucked into the united states of france/germany? wheres our democracy now?
A coward dies a thousand deaths a soldier only dies once