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#41
Croker nobs put more than a fence between us
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TOM HUMPHRIES

LOCKER ROOM: Those gold streamers cascading down from the roof of the Hogan yesterday just made a great event look tacky

HERE'S A THING. Last Friday evening starting at 7pm some 27 members of St Mary's GAA club in Sligo set off to run from Sligo to Croke Park (make up your own jokes about how Sligo people know the way and then read on). They ran a relay system with three on each leg and they reached Croker on Saturday just before 3pm.

Now there are some forms of public transport that wouldn't get you there that quickly. All along from their town and from people along the way they got incredible support. The runners were made up of players, managers, parents and included former Sligo manager Tommy Breheny.

The whole idea was a little illustration of what the GAA should be about. That spirit of community, of self-sufficiency, of pushing out and being inventive and brave.

From beginning to end the support they received was incredible and when they arrived into Fagan's of Drumcondra on Saturday evening for a well-deserved sarsparilla or two they looked none the worse for their exertions.

We say they got support from everywhere but that's not quite true. What hurt them most, well the only thing that hurt them, was that when they got to Croke Park on Saturday afternoon the gates were locked against them.

They just wanted to take a photo. A top of Everest shot. A planting the flag at the pole snap. It's their GAA and their Croke Park. They are the grassroots which make the association what it is.

Entreaty after entreaty, plea after plea to the high panjandrums of Jones' Road were turned down, however.

For three months they asked and for three months they were told no. So after 20 hours of running the good GAA people of St Mary's, Sligo reached Croke Park, stood around for a while and had to turn around and walk away. They'd have got more of a welcome in Lansdowne Road.

I was thinking of them yesterday when the final whistle blew in Croke Park and we went into the sanitised production which is the end-of-the-match malarkey the GAA is so proud of. Those unable to afford the seats were watching like sodden herons from behind Croker's obscene Hill 16 fencing, wondering what it's all about.

How they must have longed to be out on the pitch invading and stampeding and pillaging like their fathers and their fathers before them. (It occurs here that had the good people of St Mary's been let in to Croker on Saturday maybe they'd have stampeded and killed each other and sued the GAA as a fund-raising wheeze. The Association can't be too careful these days.)

Nobody seriously calls for pitch invasions or stampedes but a couple of thousand people on the pitch certainly used to make for a little bit of atmosphere and fun. Yesterday, those tacky gold streamers cascaded down from the roof of the Hogan for three seconds filling us peasants with awe and wonder but making the event look like the aftermath of a scoreless draw between Birmingham and Stoke City in the Premiership.

Our hearts had scarcely stopped racing after the incredible spectacle which preceded the game of a large flag in the Cork colours and a large flag in the Down colours being carried on to the field and being shaken up and down as if to clear off crumbs. The shaking was done by school children who had to wait on the field so long doing their shaking we almost rang an expert in labour law to inquire about their status.

All this came just after the silent movie which marked the end of the minor game. Croke Park has decided the tradition of the winning minor captain making a speech is unseemly and has canned that plus the annual ramble which we used to get from the bishop handing over the trophy. Instead, culturally unique as we are, we got U2 and The Pogues blasted out over the PA.

Where are we going with all this? Seriously. How much more distance is Croke Park going to put between itself and the people who made the place what it is? We are told that when the committee that meets to discuss such things opted to press the mute button on minor captains everybody there was in favour of shutting the senior captains up also and this eventuality wouldn't be far down the road.

Soon Mr Marty Morrissey will accept all trophies and make the speeches on behalf of the counties. No requests for songs or ditties will be entertained and all customers shall remain silent and leave in an orderly fashion.

You know I don't know how many times in a year I have the GAA conversation. You know the one. Where we just sit back and marvel at what an incredible and unique organisation we have on our hands. We talk about how it brings us together, about how the atmosphere at any event from a bitter club game to, say, this month's All-Ireland hurling final can be like nothing you could experience anywhere on earth.

We talk about the games, the people who play them, we give out about the GAA but we do so with love. It's in our DNA, it has cradled us and nursed us and carried us in strong arms to this point where it feels like home for us.

And how many times recently have we spoken with regret and sorrow about how it is changing and how alienating the changes feel. We used to fret when the GPA started that a gap would open between the elite of the playing grades and their less gifted comrades back in the clubs. We should have worried about the organisation drifting away from its heart.

Keeping the St Mary's people outside instead of letting them in to take a photograph, the oppressively symbolic fencing, the campaign to push the Cumann na mBunscol finals out of Croke Park where they have been held since 1928 (every county in the country should be given a day in the place, for God's sake), the loss this week of Micheál Ó Muircheartaigh's comforting voice. These are all worrying, perplexing and slightly hurtful things for the grassroots.

Nobody owns the GAA. We have a lease on it. We have borrowed it not from Cusack and Davin and the boys but from our children and our grandchildren and we are obliged to hand it over in better condition than we found it.

There were so many wonderful moments in Croke Park this year and there were millions more on pitches and in clubs around the country but Croke Park feels increasingly sanitised and corporate and those who thought of it as home now go there feeling like customers in a bespoke store.

We don't want it to be like the Premiership or the Super Bowl when we go. We want it to be brothy and slightly chaotic and trembling with passion and to give us that tingle in the spine, that feeling of Irishness so hard to find in these bad times.

We've lost that loving feeling.
#42
1-0 Goal by Mario Flick, we thought we had things bad.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/match_centre/
#43
Hurling Discussion / Kilkenny fans taking defeat hard
September 06, 2010, 07:19:36 PM
Herald.ie
Hurling fan with rifle in bizarre stand-off with soldiers in street
By Cormac Byrne
Monday September 06 2010

AN armed man was arrested after a stand-off outside the Four Courts involving an army patrol jeep.

The man, believed to be a Kilkenny hurling supporter, launched a bizarre protest on the road at Inn's Quay early yesterday, stopping traffic and confronting soldiers and gardai.

Soldiers on a routine patrol were driving along the quays when they came across the man blocking traffic and acting in a threatening manner. It is understood that the 44-year-old man parked his jeep in the middle of the road across all lanes before emerging from his car in the early hours of yesterday.

Eye

One of the soldiers spotted what he believed to be a firearm stashed in the man's 4x4 vehicle and immediately contacted gardai.

The army unit kept a close eye on the situation before gardai arrived on the scene and attempted to bring calm to the situation.

They managed to talk the man down and in a subsequent examination of the man's vehicle a rifle was discovered.

Gardai have awaiting the results of a toxicology report to determine if the middle-aged man was under the influence of alcohol or drugs at the time of the incident.

The incident took place on Inn's Quay near the Four Courts at 4.10am yesterday.

A number of motorists are understood to have witnessed the incident.

Gardai are understood to have taken statements from a number of the innocent motorists caught up in the incident.

Shed

The man is still being quizzed at the Bridewell Garda Station today as detectives try to establish a motive for his actions.

A Garda spokesperson confirmed that the man was arrested and a firearm was recovered from the scene. He is being held under Section 30 of the Offences Against the State Act.

The rifle in the incident is to undergo ballistic examination by officers at the Garda Technical Bureau.

The area surrounding the Four Courts and Inns Quay is heavily surveyed by CCTV cameras and gardai are hopeful that the footage can shed some light on what exactly provoked the man.

- Cormac Byrne
#44
GAA Discussion / Missed talent for Mayo
August 29, 2010, 09:08:20 PM
Anyone would of noticed the precosious talent of 16 year Shane Maughan/ This lad is the son of the famous Jimmy Maughan who played for Mayo. He was from Ballinrobe and was a brilliant basketball player as well. He should of won an all Ireland for Mayo in 1985. A Brilliant player and looks like his son will be missed for Mayo. He looks every inch of a player and sportsman his father was. Any chance we can coax him back?
#45
Look we all know they happen. I have just seen an article on HS  thats states Steps are being taken to stamp out ilegal payments making County secretaries and Chairpersons sign sworn affidavits saying that no ilegal payments are being made.

In the same article it states that Paraic Duffy state at a Dinner in Dublin last year  was aware of a "well-known mercenary" manager in Ulster who received unofficial payments of £30,000 received from two prominent businessmen.
#46

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/article.php?id=223


THE GAA have stated today that they will be hiring two Boeing AH-64 Apache twin-engine attack helicopter gunships each armed with a 30-millimeter   (1.2 in  )   M230 Chain Gun and two AGM-114 Hellfire and Hydra 70 rockets to deter fans from invading the pitch after next Sundays all Ireland final.

The gunships have brought criticism from fans who claim the €700k-a-day helicopters will be too noisy and will distract players away from the most important game of the year.

Kerry Footballer Paul Galvin stated today that the gunships would just ruin the atmosphere of the game.

"Sure how could you hear a whistle with them things flying over head. Both helicopters have twin engines and twin rotor blades. The down draft alone would blow the skull off ya sure." he said.

Earlier this year a safety presentation at Croke park outlined the dangers of pitch invasions so much so that it was decided to end the practice once and for all.

"It was our only option," said a GAA spokesman about the decision taken yesterday by the GAA's management committee. "We need to get the message across that pitch invasions, or any other breach of security, will be dealt with in a firm and direct manner.

"The gun ships will only start hovering in the last ten minutes of the game. It shouldn't affect game-play too much.

We have told the pilots to only shoot pitch invaders. However, we will make exceptions in emergency cases. Both men have been told to not use the AGM-114 Hellfire and Hydra 70 rockets unless its absolutely necessary."

"We want people to exit the stadium by the way they came in. We are doing this so nobody gets hurt. Its all about safety." he said.

Supporter of the gunships, Thomas Hardyman, stated that the GAA made the decision themselves to hire the helicopters, if they hadn't, it would have been forced on them by the safety authorities anyway.

In that case, the restrictions would probably be much more severe and might even include a reduced capacity. This would mean a huge loss for the GAA and an even harder push on referees to blow up a game while drawn.

Tens of thousands of fans are expected to travel to Croke Park on Sunday, for the minor championship semi-final between Galway and Cork as well as the senior football game.
#47
http://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1017


Hell on the Hill

This Sunday, Cork's gallant footballers will take on the men from Dirty Old Town in the All Ireland football semi final at Croke Park. For once Corkonians will be excused from their duty on Hill 16. With the repulsive treatment of Cork fans in Dublin over last few years the chants of "the hill is for Dublin only" will be gladly implemented.

Dubliners have brought Gaelic games to a new low. And that's not just off the pitch (we'll come to the game itself later). Their fans are to the GAA Championship what English clubs like Millwall and Chelsea's dog-rough followers were to the English soccer leagues in the eighties and early nineties.
Hill 16: Horrendous.

In an attempt to be Dublin's 16th man (and by the beatings they've taken over the last 5 years it often seems like Dublin play with only 7 or 8 men) the Hill has discarded the common decency long shared between fans of opposing counties. The civility that might exist between fans of other counties at games is given a goldy-sovereign'd two fingers once the royal blue jerseys turn up.

Banter and ball-hopping are all part of the match day interaction and if you can't deal with a bit of 'craic with an edge' you should watch the game at home. But on Sunday the island will once again be subjected to the brazen booing of Dublin's bad boys, the hissing cynicism of the east coast's den of iniquity.

Boozed up bowsies from Ballymun and drunk Decco's from Drumcondra will converge on the Hill with a limited knowledge of the game, adding extra syllables to every word uttered to give their brains more time to articulate their irrational thoughts.

Yiz-a were bru-wah-tal.

It is often cited that Dublin have a distinct advantage over other counties as they never have to play championship games away from home. This of course gives the blues a gigantic leg up over visiting teams with their seething and cynical supporters hissing and booing every move by other teams. Particularly free takers. Furthermore, they ignore respected condemnation of their despicable behaviour from every quarter.

However, the greater context of the national interest must also be acknowledged. Would any town or city in Ireland welcome this sort of GAA fan? A chairde, the GAA must be commended on their isolationist policy as Ireland beyond the pale is far safer with this tradition being upheld: keep the Dubs in Dublin!

Secondly, the media in Dublin take lessons from their cousins across the Irish Sea. Tabloid thinking is endemic. 'Red tops' rule the roost and the irrational unruly disrespectful fan is both their target market and their product.
Your man is a Dublin fan.

So the Dub's biggest advantage is also their biggest enemy. The parallels between the fate of English soccer and the Dubs' single-code stab at Gaelic games are many: the memories of England's 1966 victory and Dublin's meagre achievements as a county are astoundingly similar even aside from the soccer chants adopted from British game that infest Hill 16.

Their sporting successes can be summarised as a brief rivalry with Kerry in the late seventies before most of their fans were born. It should be noted that Cork were busy at the four-in-row in the other code around the same time so those of you lucky enough to live in that era wouldn't have noticed anyway.

Despite cringing back-slapping documentaries to appease RTE's Dublin audience giving credence to the notion that the rivalry was not one-sided (Kerry didn't give a toss), the embarrassing reality is that they beat The Kingdom just twice (in their own backyard). Something that happens with the regularity of the Shandon bells in Cork.

The capital expects so much yet gets so little - while the local media bring the kindle and the fans stoke the flames. Therein lies the capital's undeniable principle enemy: burning festering self-hatred. The capital seems to revel more in self-criticism than any (albeit minor) victory. Does that ring any Morris dancing bells? As has been pointed out by many columnists at the bottom of this intense self-loathing is a confused Dublin mindset - despite the passport they don't know whether they are British or Irish.

So minutely geographically small is County Dublin that should they lose on Sunday the only solution should be to break up the capital into separate counties and attach them to neighbouring ones.

Wicklow, Louth, Meath and of course the Lily Whites in Kildare who Corkonians have an obvious soft spot for, may tolerate having parts of nearby Dublin lobbed on to their own counties. The west coast of Wales may also facilitate the arrival of an offshore archipelago featuring such distasteful 'attractions' as the Guinness Storehouse and other symbols of Dublinism. It would however be considered a homecoming for many Dubs and who would begrudge them this?

We urge all Cork fans attending the game to not engage in taunting with Dublin fans, not to boo the Dublin players and to leave the captial as soon as possible after the match, win lose or draw.

#48
General discussion / Resistance 3 confirmed
August 17, 2010, 09:06:54 PM
For any gamers out there. Resistance 3 has been officialy confirmed no start date yet just a teaser trailer.[flash(425,350)]http://www.youtube.com/v/uF3ezTYmGyM[/flash]
#49
GAA Discussion / ladies football/camogie
August 15, 2010, 10:53:48 PM
I'm just watching the camogie here on the Sunday game. I watched a few of the ladies football games the last Day on TG4. While the camogie ladies are far superior in skill then there football counterparts i still think the standard is muck and i would have more enterainment and skill watching an under 12's or an under 14's match.

I'm not going to pander them and say its great its not. Why oh why are ladies football keepers not able to catch a high ball? there embaressing to watch i dont know how many goals i have seen going straight through their hands.

On another note i had to lower the volume down on the TV because the high pitched screaming coming from the crowd is upsetting my dog. Rant over.
#50
GAA Discussion / Moments that Shook the GAA world
August 07, 2010, 04:59:17 PM
I'll start off here. The most shocking moment in recent GAA history for me was in 2002 with the shocking story about Roscommon.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/gaa-red-card-to-get-naked-truth-299995.html

Thursday July 18 2002
ROSCOMMON has disbanded its entire senior football team in an extraordinary sequel to reports of high jinx by players at a hotel.

The squad, which last summer won the county its first Connacht senior title in 10 years, has been told that anyone who hopes to play again must declare any involvement in acts of misconduct.

Trouble started in early May when a British Sunday newspaper ran a story claiming a couple of Roscommon players were caught on a Derry hotel's security video playing pool in the nude.
#51
General discussion / Peters Caption competition
August 03, 2010, 08:16:15 PM
Roscommon fan at the all Ireland Quarter. Best one gets a go on my Sister.


#52
I had a quick look there to see the thoughts of people after the weekend of shocks. While the articles from the journalists there were good and the site in general has good features the forum must be at its lowest ebb. Some of the threads are as follows

bye bye Meath
Mayofans take not on how to win with class.
Whistles on the hill

with no GAA debate what so ever just one up manship and insults. I cant ever remember it been that bad. The summer holidays a lot to blame?
#53
According to the our wee country forum a few posters are planning to cause trouble because of the CAS ruling. Below is a copy of one of the posts. They plan to wreck the stadium according to the poster Big Rab. I suppose what else can you expect from a pig but a grunt.

http://ourweecountry.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=29531

Big Rab
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QUOTE (Marty @ Jul 30 2010, 05:31 PM)



Seriously, I think it is taken for granted now we must have nothing to do with the FAI.

The image I now have in my head is not one which I would normally admit, but to hell with it.

I'm thinking of seats being ripped up and thrown, terrified corporate guests from the glitterati of the Irish corporate fraud banking and construction industries being assisted in escaping down corridors away from the maelstrom, Gardai turning away and running in the face of never before encountered violence, the pitch being invaded and coated in industrial strength weedkiller leaving it drier and more parched than Bairbre de Brun's clitoris, the posts being discharged in the direction of the dressing room, Liam Brady struggling to escape over a fence, and all of a sudden flames starting to lick up the back wall of the stand.

That's the sort of thing which will get me banned and probably arrested, but f**k it, it's a more satisfying thought than boycotting a second rate friendly tournament.


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They know what this is about. What do I have? Nothing but you egg sucking chicken stealing gutter trash with not even 60 rounds between you. We're after men. And I wish to God I was with them.
The next time you make a mistake, I'll ride off and let you die.

Robert Ryan, The Wild Bunch
#54
Archive footage from mayo's 4-11 to 0-05 victory over Laois in the 1936 all Ireland final. Some crowds at the game no such thing as health and safety back then.

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=6935
#55
General discussion / British pathe-Archive footage
July 30, 2010, 01:48:31 PM
This is a brilliant website, showing archive footage from Irelands past. Below is a link from Irelands first presidents re interment in Castlebar. John Moore President of Connacht in 1798. In attendance were Dev and Taoiseach Sean lemass in 1961.

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=426207

#56
GAA Discussion / Do you remember when
July 27, 2010, 07:14:23 PM
Dublin threat to boycott the Championship. I am after seeing an old report from a 2003 issue of the hoganstand. What ever became of it?



An on-going row between the Dublin county board and the Leinster Council over who should oversee the spending of EUR4.5 million in the capital could result in Dublin withdrawing from all provincial competitions this year.

The threat has been issued by Dublin county board chairman John Bailey who is strongly opposed to a Leinster Council proposal to appoint an outsider to oversee the spending of the money earmarked for the county by the Strategic Review Committee over a five-year period.

Bailey received unanimous support from club delegates at a meeting of the county board on Monday night, April 7.

"No county in Ireland would hand over control to anyone else," he said in an impassioned speech.
"This is our county - we've elected our own officers and they should be allowed to look after the county's affairs. Here in Dublin we stand up for our rights and just because we won't sit down, we're painted as the bad guys.

"We're bankrolling the Leinster Council and Croke Park with gate receipts from our matches, but I'll tell you if this goes on much longer, I am prepared to withdraw all Dublin teams from the Leinster championship."

Dublin want Bailey to be co-chairman of the committee set up to administer the money for the first year of the programme, alongside an outsider, and then to take sole charge for the remaining four years - something the Leinster Council are objecting to.
#57
I bet Limerick are in for a shock tonight. RTE could they ever get it right.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2010/0725/footballdraw.html

Tyrone will meet Dublin in the quarter-finals of the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship.

Reigning champions Kerry will face Down after the Mourne men hammered Sligo in Breffni Park yesterday in the qualifiers.

Connacht champions Roscommon have been handed a daunting tie with beaten Munster finalists Cork.

The Rebels laboured to an extra-time win over Limerick but will go into the last eight tie as big favourites.

Meath, conquerors of Dublin and controversially Louth in Leinster, face a resurgent Kildare.

The Lilywhites have recovered well from an early provincial exit.

All four matches are likely to take place next weekend, with the GAA set to confirm the times and venues being announced early next week.
#58
In his article today in the start today he had a right go at the Dubs. His Ulster bias is sickening to say the least he never has anything good to say about a team outside of Ulster.
#59
Yes its true apparently. According the to the Sunday World Paul has taken a leave of absence from teaching and has signed a 12 month contract to be s presenter on expose. Perhaps one of the stranger things to happen.
#60
 http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2010/0716/cooney.html

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/mediaplayer.html?features,2788710,2788710,flash,255


GAA President Christy Cooney has said that the controversial Louth v Meath Leinster Senior Football Championship final was a watershed for the Association.

Meath won the match in controversial circumstances when they were awarded a late goal by referee Martin Sludden. Replays clearly showed that Joe Sheridan had thrown the ball over the line to win Meath their 21st Delaney Cup.

That sparked a pitch invasion in which Sludden was jostled by angry Louth supporters.

Speaking to RTÉ Sport's Marty Morrissey, Cooney agreed that the match was a watershed for supporters in particular and said he hoped presentations would take place in the middle of the pitch at Croke Park in future.

The GAA made an effort to have the Cup and medal presentations in the centre of the pitch at Headquarters at the end of last year's All-Ireland finals but the new system did not work and supporters filled the field after both the hurling and football finals.

Both presentations took place in the Hogan Stand.

Cooney believes the events after the final whistle prove the case in favour of keeping people off the pitch after games.

He said: 'It has reinforced to everybody that we need to ensure that patrons stay off our pitch at the end of matches, that we need to do our presentations and that we need to give our players and officials the opportunity to leave the pitch with dignity and to celebrate with dignity.'

He did not rule out the possibility of having fencing around Croke Park.

Martin Sludden was jostled by Louth supportersCooney also commended the Louth players for their actions after the match: several players defended the referee as supporters ran on to the pitch.

Speaking about he Louth supporters who jostled Sludden, Cooney added the matter was currently one for the Gardaí. However, he added that the GAA and the Leinster Council could yet ban people who took part in assaults on the referee.

Cooney also defended the GAA against accusations that it did not provide enough support to the Leinster Council or the counties involved during the controversy.

Officials from Louth and Meath have both accused to Association of failing to enough provide guidance and ultimately, Meath were left to decide on whether or not to give Louth a re-fixture themselves.

Cooney said: 'I believe we have acted very responsibly since the event took place last Sunday. I believe we gave appropriate advice to the Leinster council.

'We gave appropriate advice to both Meath and Louth on how to deal with the matter and I was quite surprised to hear and to read some of the comments that came from both counties. Both counties are well aware of our views on that. I don't believe there was any lack of support.'

'Croke Park weren't in a position to make any decision on this. All we could do was offer support and advice. The match was under jurisdiction of the Leinster council.'

After the match, the subject of whether the match should be replayed was hotly debated. Meath opted not to offer a replay, citing the fact that Sludden said in his report that he would have given Meath a penalty had a goal not been scored.

Cooney - 'would like to have seen replay'

Joe Sheridan's goal decided the Leinster finalCooney said he would like to have seen the Leinster Final played again.

Cooney said: 'It would be fair to say that we would have all like to have seen a replay.'

He added: 'Meath decided otherwise. Within rule there was no other avenue for us to go. no other avenue for the Leinster council to take. I can't tear up a rulebook and make any decision that I want as President. That's not possible.'

Cooney is determined that the Association will not react in a kneejerk manner to the controversy and that time will be allowed to pass before any decisions are taken.

He continued: 'Last Sunday's circumstances were bizarre. I have never seen circumstances like it as long as I have been a member of this Association. Will I ever see them again as long as I live? Maybe not in my lifetime.

'Do we need to make massive changes? Do we need to throw out our rulebook? Do we need a rush of blood and change things immediately? Of course not.

'We need to give it some thought, and we need to do what's right. We need to take time to consider it.'