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#1
Quote from: Brendan on June 05, 2024, 03:22:28 PM
Quote from: general_lee on June 05, 2024, 03:15:23 PM
Quote from: Brendan on June 05, 2024, 02:57:10 PMWould there be a case for splitting Ballinsacreen in 2? Consistently have B teams in football and hurling at underage, think they even have a D team at u14 football this year. Winning nothing of note at senior for a long time makes it less appealing I suppose
When is the last time a club split because of too many numbers? Can't have been too many examples in the last 30 years.

Split probably the wrong choice of word there but denfitly scope for a new club to take advantage of those numbers, same as Steelstown and Culmore in the town

I would love to know the rational behind this.  Unless there was a Mickey Harte style fall out there would be no appetite for another club in the parish.  From the far end of Moneyneana to the top of Sixtowns you'll get dyed-in-the-wool 'Screen men, women & children so where would this new club locate?  On the periphery of the parish you'd be eating into Glen on one side or Desertmartin on another.  There's a lot of barren land towards Banagher or Lissan on the other sides.  Maybe you mean towards Tobermore  ;)

Regarding the numbers, it's brilliant to see.  Between football, hurling, camogie & LGFA at every age group its a logistical nightmare but would this new club offer these 4 codes or would you expect players and families to divide their loyalties between 2 clubs.
#2
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
June 05, 2024, 11:33:41 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 05, 2024, 11:02:04 AM
Quote from: jmcgdoire on June 05, 2024, 10:23:48 AM
Quote from: statto on June 05, 2024, 09:57:23 AMIf Derry beat Westmeath and end up drawing Tyrone be some craic in here. 

Could be a poetic end to a season and a nail in Mickeys coffin or one of the best bouncebacks weve seen in a long time.
Unlikely though as Tyrone will be expecting to beat cork i would say.
Hard to predict who derry could get if they beat westmeath (big if). Looking at the other groups does anyone know if even points means it goes to score difference or head to head?

Think it's Louth, Mayo, Tyrone or Dublin. If we do manage to get through, you'd be praying for Tyrone. The handiest re opposition and mileage

Think you can add Donegal to that.  I currently have no confidence in a victory over Westmeath but Louth, Tyrone & Donegal would all have a side story involved.
#3
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
June 03, 2024, 09:41:58 AM
Two scenarios:
Beat by Westmeath, season over, night night
Sneak a win, draw Louth in the preliminary quarter and get beat!
#4
General discussion / Re: Car Insurance!!!!!
May 30, 2024, 01:20:41 PM
Nope.

Wife with Abbey; renewal offer up 40% on last year.

Phoned Abbey and got another company at 20% up on last year which was the cheapest by a long way.
#6
There was a incident in the Derry Galway game were a Galway player in possession was "ushered" over the sideline by a couple of Derry players. McQullian pointed his flag in favour of the Galway player and indicated a pushing motion with this hands.  I didn't hear if the referee blew his whistle at this point but is it not the linesmans job to indicate which way the line ball is to go and he should not be calling the freekick??
#7
Thought we were going to eke out another point before halftime which would've been brilliant given the red card.
The shots dropping short are killing us.
Hopefully reset at halftime. Think we can still get out of Salthill with something here.
#8
Quote from: Rebel84 on May 18, 2024, 06:09:39 PMNo penalty for Galway there?

Touched on the ground.
Would've only been a free if given
#9
Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 16, 2024, 11:53:52 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 16, 2024, 10:57:28 AM
Quote from: cornerback on May 15, 2024, 11:58:03 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 15, 2024, 11:35:59 AMQuick question on age eligibility. In lgfa a child can play one go games age group above their own group (up to u13 in Tyrone). And 2 levels above their group at competitive level - u14 upwards. Would a 12 year old who's playing u13 go games and u14 competitive, be eligible to play u16 as well? As Theres no older go game age group, would she be allowed to play the 2 age groups above at competitive games?

From the 2023 Official Guide:
Underage players can only play in their own age group at Inter-County level for U-14 and
U-16 (Effective 1st January 2024).
At County U-18 level, players may play in their own age group and one grade above. Over
18 grade is deemed an adult grade.
At club level, underage players can only play in their own age group and two grades above
it with grades deemed as Under 12, 14, 16 and 18. All grades Under 10 can only play one
grade above. An Under 8 can play Under 8 and 10. An Under 10 can play Under 10 and
12. An Under 12 can play Under 12, 14, 16. An Under 14 can play Under 14, 16 and 18. An
Under 16 can play Under 16, 18 and Adult and Under 18 can play Under 18 and Adult.

At Inter-County and Club level, players must firstly play and train with their own age group.

Personally, I would have serious reservations with an u12 (potentially P7) playing at u16 level (5th years) but it isn't against the rules.  I don't think go-games is a factor as the LGFA deem the age groups at U12, u14 etc.

A 12yo can play U16 but it depends on when the turned 12. If they turned 12 on or before the 31st of Dec 2011 then they're eligible to play U16, but ineligible to play U12.

If they turned 12 on or after 1st of Jan 2012 then they're still eligible to play U12 and ineligible to play U16.

Bottom line is that if a kid is eligible to play U12 in that year then they're ineligible to play U16 that same year.


I think you're looking at the boys Johnny. The ladies is different from my understanding. In that at underage you can play your age group and two levels above.

If they turned 12 on 31st Dec 2011 they'd be doing well to get away with playing u16  ;D
Yeah, the bit I highlighted above is from the LGFA official guide.
#10
Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 15, 2024, 11:35:59 AMQuick question on age eligibility. In lgfa a child can play one go games age group above their own group (up to u13 in Tyrone). And 2 levels above their group at competitive level - u14 upwards. Would a 12 year old who's playing u13 go games and u14 competitive, be eligible to play u16 as well? As Theres no older go game age group, would she be allowed to play the 2 age groups above at competitive games?

From the 2023 Official Guide:
Underage players can only play in their own age group at Inter-County level for U-14 and
U-16 (Effective 1st January 2024).
At County U-18 level, players may play in their own age group and one grade above. Over
18 grade is deemed an adult grade.
At club level, underage players can only play in their own age group and two grades above
it with grades deemed as Under 12, 14, 16 and 18. All grades Under 10 can only play one
grade above. An Under 8 can play Under 8 and 10. An Under 10 can play Under 10 and
12. An Under 12 can play Under 12, 14, 16. An Under 14 can play Under 14, 16 and 18. An
Under 16 can play Under 16, 18 and Adult and Under 18 can play Under 18 and Adult.

At Inter-County and Club level, players must firstly play and train with their own age group.

Personally, I would have serious reservations with an u12 (potentially P7) playing at u16 level (5th years) but it isn't against the rules.  I don't think go-games is a factor as the LGFA deem the age groups at U12, u14 etc.
#11
General discussion / Re: Podcasts
May 02, 2024, 01:00:10 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 02, 2024, 12:43:42 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 02, 2024, 12:36:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 02, 2024, 12:25:36 PMBetween Laochra Gael and GAA Social my wife always asks me why I watch / listen to stuff that's so depressing  ;D  Seems to be the way of it these days - you want to talk to someone then they need to have some sort of back story. (No a dig at anyone just a marketing thing - I haven't listened to this week's one but IMO the Bells are modern day heroes and are just great people so while I have no doubt it will be a bit sad I'll be very interested to listen to them too).
I'd say with the Colin Bell one theres parts that would break your heart but they still manage to have a good laugh in other parts as well, loved the bit about him saying he's meeting lads he played with that are on walking sticks now, sure those are the lads that tracked back and made tackles I didn't bother with that!

Hard to even find superlatives to describe Colin and the service their charity provides tbh, have helped over 1800 families at such a tough time.
I remember Colin won the lotto... not the foundation, for them personally. Everyone was so happy for them. Good people have helped so many families.

https://x.com/thomasniblock/status/1785610809827066110
#12
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
April 30, 2024, 01:02:33 PM
Any word on Padraig McGrogan's injury?
#13
Lynch's positioning aside, Donegal would've scored a few goals anyway:
First goal - certain goal regardless of Lynch.  Donegal had 6 men level/ahead of the ball to Derry's 3.
Second goal - certain point opportunity, probably wouldn't have engineered a goal for this one as Donegal didn't have the same numbers in attack.
Third goal - penalty (not inside the box) but Lynch was in goals.
Fourth goal - Donegal would have had a shot on goal, think they had 5 level/ahead of the ball to Derry's 3.

The problem was much deeper than Lynch's positioning.
#14
Quote from: screenexile on April 18, 2024, 11:32:54 PMDerry going with the same team as the league final.

No real surprise didn't think they'd risk McKinless from the start and he's a great impact sub.

No Murphy on the bench??

Can changes be made to the 26? Harte normally names his subs in alphabetical order. Doherty is out of place & Murphy would fit in at 25 alphabetically.
#15
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2024
April 01, 2024, 02:29:46 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 01, 2024, 02:13:11 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on April 01, 2024, 02:00:38 PM
Quote from: cornerback on April 01, 2024, 01:48:27 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on April 01, 2024, 01:33:43 PM
Quote from: cornerback on April 01, 2024, 01:20:29 PMhttps://x.com/so_92/status/1774758687636070636?s=46&t=F_sQ_3viFZ6zidQYNagDEA

Good angle to show that Lane didn't see the incident at the time. Turn round due to the crowd's reaction

So he turned around, observed a player lying on the ground and an opponent standing over him, but didn't think to stop play to adjudicate.
That  seems like good refereeing.

So are you saying you want the referee to stop play every time that situation arises?

So a team on the attack in the final minutes of a game, a player on the defending hits the ground, the crowd reacts, referee stops play, consults all his other officials, nobody seen anything. Play restarts with a free to the attacking team which they aren't allowed to score from and the defending team are now set with everyone back and marking their opponents.

Fair point.


But is he not in communication with his supporting officials, i.e. when a linesman witnesses an actual legitimate assault/incident and informs the referee of the incident. It seemed like the linesman saw that happen yesterday.

My thoughts are that the next break in play is the time to discuss these incidents. Linesman sees something and notifies ref, umpire sees same incident from a different angle and has a different opinion.
The ref referees the game as he sees it, if he doesn't see an off the ball incident he can't keep stopping play to consult his officials. He also can't be in ongoing discussions with the other officials as there is a game to referee!