Does the series follow any particular order chronological or otherwise or does it just alternate between random football & hurling games? I've been on the lookout for the 95 football AIF on it. Maybe they just don't show the dire finals?
Not a question but was searching to see if anyone had posted on this.
Just watched a recently aired game: All Ireland Football Final of 1980. Kerry v Roscommon. Some brutal football, brutal refereeing and dodgy commentating. Highlight for me was Pat Spillane getting a smack in the gob with Micéal O,Hare stating that Spillane had a reputation for play acting ! And he would have the cheek to comment on teams today! Having said that there were some talented individuals on show like Jack O'Shea Seán Walsh mikey Sheehy, Tim Kinnealy, Harry Keegan, Donnellan John O'Connor and Early
Quote from: Godsown on July 27, 2019, 01:19:34 AM
Not a question but was searching to see if anyone had posted on this.
Just watched a recently aired game: All Ireland Football Final of 1980. Kerry v Roscommon. Some brutal football, brutal refereeing and dodgy commentating. Highlight for me was Pat Spillane getting a smack in the gob with Micéal O,Hare stating that Spillane had a reputation for play acting ! And he would have the cheek to comment on teams today! Having said that there were some talented individuals on show like Jack O'Shea Seán Walsh mikey Sheehy, Tim Kinnealy, Harry Keegan, Donnellan John O'Connor and Early
Seen that, the game was played on a damp wet day. A very poor game of football. Strange sort of atmosphere. michael o'hehir's commentary very agenda based. Not sure if a commentator would be away with it today. He had a plethora of phrases and punchlines that he repeatedly said. He'd be so out of his dept today. Referee looked like he was making it up as he went along.
The Spillane incident was embarrassing. Remember Spillane always had these
''I'm going to die'' moments in a tough hard game.
It hard to believe how much the free from the ground slowed the game down in those days.
Mikey Sheehy was the man who dragged Kerry over the line that day.
Quote from: Godsown on July 27, 2019, 01:19:34 AM
Not a question but was searching to see if anyone had posted on this.
Just watched a recently aired game: All Ireland Football Final of 1980. Kerry v Roscommon. Some brutal football, brutal refereeing and dodgy commentating. Highlight for me was Pat Spillane getting a smack in the gob with Micéal O,Hare stating that Spillane had a reputation for play acting ! And he would have the cheek to comment on teams today! Having said that there were some talented individuals on show like Jack O'Shea Seán Walsh mikey Sheehy, Tim Kinnealy, Harry Keegan, Donnellan John O'Connor and Early
One of the worst games of Gaelic football ever played
Lads could barely kick the ball back then
The game then consisted of a load of throws to try and get in position to throw the ball into the net
The current Dublin team would beat that Kerry team by 40 points
Old Gaelic football was rubbish
Quote from: sid waddell on July 27, 2019, 11:24:38 AM
Quote from: Godsown on July 27, 2019, 01:19:34 AM
Not a question but was searching to see if anyone had posted on this.
Just watched a recently aired game: All Ireland Football Final of 1980. Kerry v Roscommon. Some brutal football, brutal refereeing and dodgy commentating. Highlight for me was Pat Spillane getting a smack in the gob with Micéal O,Hare stating that Spillane had a reputation for play acting ! And he would have the cheek to comment on teams today! Having said that there were some talented individuals on show like Jack O'Shea Seán Walsh mikey Sheehy, Tim Kinnealy, Harry Keegan, Donnellan John O'Connor and Early
One of the worst games of Gaelic football ever played
Lads could barely kick the ball back then
The game then consisted of a load of throws to try and get in position to throw the ball into the net
The current Dublin team would beat that Kerry team by 40 points
Old Gaelic football was rubbish
No better or worse than the hyped up 2015 AI final which was also played damp wet day. Current Dublin team v that Kerry team with lads in their 60s now would be a mis-match alright.
They weren't basically professionals(same goes for any team)and sure what training would have went in relative to now. Sports science, nutrition, statistics, analysis etc much more advanced. Back room teams are at 20 for some teams these days - much smaller those days. It's basically a different game now.
Kerry were the best in those times. If those Kerry players played within the parameters of football these days they would be a different team too and there's nothing to say they wouldn't put it up to Dublin - to be honest it's all hypothetical. To say one team would win by 40 points is probably about as relevant as saying cars in the 1970s were slower than cars these days.
Taking All Ireland Gold as a guide then football in the 2040's will make todays football look rubbish. With this knowledge, is there any point in playing now?
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 27, 2019, 02:21:03 PM
They weren't basically professionals(same goes for any team)and sure what training would have went in relative to now. Sports science, nutrition, statistics, analysis etc much more advanced. Back room teams are at 20 for some teams these days - much smaller those days. It's basically a different game now.
Kerry were the best in those times. If those Kerry players played within the parameters of football these days they would be a different team too and there's nothing to say they wouldn't put it up to Dublin - to be honest it's all hypothetical. To say one team would win by 40 points is probably about as relevant as saying cars in the 1970s were slower than cars these days.
+1. Beggars belief that it needs to be explained to some people still.
Quote from: hardstation on July 27, 2019, 05:20:03 PM
Yeah, the sport science wasn't about then but there's no excuse for the full back getting out in front only to half volley the fcukin thing over the sideline.
They kicked the ball a lot more back then but the standard of kick passing was extremely poor. Ball was just given away time after time.
All Ireland Gold is the enemy of nostalgia.
Mantra these days don't give the ball away. Mantra those days get the ball out of and into the danger areas ASAP. Drop kicking it out of play in that scenario doesn't necessarily make you a bad kick passer. Also less kick passing these days but way more training of kick passing I suspect.
It's just a game played under hugely different parameters so basically impossible to compare.
Fisted goals were an abomination then. The same as fisted points are an abomination today.
Kerry played three games to win that AI! They got a bye that year to the Munster Final!
Quote from: hardstation on July 27, 2019, 05:36:42 PM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on July 27, 2019, 05:29:08 PM
Taking All Ireland Gold as a guide then football in the 2040's will make todays football look rubbish. With this knowledge, is there any point in playing now?
Yes, I long for the day that I can yap that football was much better in 2019. Regale the younger generation of how Tiernan McCann and the likes were real men unlike these pansies nowadays. I deserve a day like that.
;D
Agree with the sentiments about 'Football Gold'. Recall watching the 1977 Final and Dublin were absolutely rubbish...and they hammered us by 12 points, so you can guess what Armagh were like!! :'( It was reinforced to me recently when I watched ten or so minutes of our opening round defeat to Cavan in 1978. I was at that game but that was the first time since that day that I had seen any of the match. It was absolutely dreadful.
By the way, with reference to referees, check out the free that Seamus Aldridge awarded against Paddy Cullen in the '78 Final and from which Mike Sheehy chipped Kerry's second goal. The decision beggars belief.
Some people know the price of everything and the value of nothing. There's no real talking to them.
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on July 28, 2019, 01:05:52 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 27, 2019, 05:36:42 PM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on July 27, 2019, 05:29:08 PM
Taking All Ireland Gold as a guide then football in the 2040's will make todays football look rubbish. With this knowledge, is there any point in playing now?
Yes, I long for the day that I can yap that football was much better in 2019. Regale the younger generation of how Tiernan McCann and the likes were real men unlike these pansies nowadays. I deserve a day like that.
;D
Agree with the sentiments about 'Football Gold'. Recall watching the 1977 Final and Dublin were absolutely rubbish...and they hammered us by 12 points, so you can guess what Armagh were like!! :'( It was reinforced to me recently when I watched ten or so minutes of our opening round defeat to Cavan in 1978. I was at that game but that was the first time since that day that I had seen any of the match. It was absolutely dreadful.
By the way, with reference to referees, check out the free that Seamus Aldridge awarded against Paddy Cullen in the '78 Final and from which Mike Sheehy chipped Kerry's second goal. The decision beggars belief.
Please don't ever mention that again, every time I see it I break out in a cold sweat and the temper rises in me. I can clearly remember watching it on the tv in our house in Coolock. I think it was the first time I ever cursed in front of my parents!!
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on July 28, 2019, 01:05:52 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 27, 2019, 05:36:42 PM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on July 27, 2019, 05:29:08 PM
Taking All Ireland Gold as a guide then football in the 2040's will make todays football look rubbish. With this knowledge, is there any point in playing now?
Yes, I long for the day that I can yap that football was much better in 2019. Regale the younger generation of how Tiernan McCann and the likes were real men unlike these pansies nowadays. I deserve a day like that.
;D
Agree with the sentiments about 'Football Gold'. Recall watching the 1977 Final and Dublin were absolutely rubbish...and they hammered us by 12 points, so you can guess what Armagh were like!! :'( It was reinforced to me recently when I watched ten or so minutes of our opening round defeat to Cavan in 1978. I was at that game but that was the first time since that day that I had seen any of the match. It was absolutely dreadful.
By the way, with reference to referees, check out the free that Seamus Aldridge awarded against Paddy Cullen in the '78 Final and from which Mike Sheehy chipped Kerry's second goal. The decision beggars belief.
He'll be forever revered in Kildare after that decision. There is a statue of him in Naas with veni, vidi, vici written on its plinth. :D
Quote from: Tyrdub on July 29, 2019, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on July 28, 2019, 01:05:52 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 27, 2019, 05:36:42 PM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on July 27, 2019, 05:29:08 PM
Taking All Ireland Gold as a guide then football in the 2040's will make todays football look rubbish. With this knowledge, is there any point in playing now?
Yes, I long for the day that I can yap that football was much better in 2019. Regale the younger generation of how Tiernan McCann and the likes were real men unlike these pansies nowadays. I deserve a day like that.
;D
Agree with the sentiments about 'Football Gold'. Recall watching the 1977 Final and Dublin were absolutely rubbish...and they hammered us by 12 points, so you can guess what Armagh were like!! :'( It was reinforced to me recently when I watched ten or so minutes of our opening round defeat to Cavan in 1978. I was at that game but that was the first time since that day that I had seen any of the match. It was absolutely dreadful.
By the way, with reference to referees, check out the free that Seamus Aldridge awarded against Paddy Cullen in the '78 Final and from which Mike Sheehy chipped Kerry's second goal. The decision beggars belief.
Please don't ever mention that again, every time I see it I break out in a cold sweat and the temper rises in me. I can clearly remember watching it on the tv in our house in Coolock. I think it was the first time I ever cursed in front of my parents!!
Yep, THAT free had been a sore point with Dub supporters ever since and many who would be neutral can't see what the free was awarded for either. Fair enough....
I saw the incident and have watched a video re-run many times and I still can't see any obvious reason for Aldridge awarding that free. But, crucially, he was the referee and while I disagree with his decision, I also accept his authority.
Paddy Cullen should not have left his goal unattended and rush outfield to remonstrate with the ref. Not a single Dublin back was attending to hid primary duty either. All got worked up and wanted to hassle Aldridge and they should have known that he was most unlikely to change his mind.
As I've said, I didn't, and still don't, see what the fre ewas for and Aldridge never said what the reason was either.
Either you accept the ref's authority to adjudicate as he sees fit or anarchy rules okay?
BTW, I'm from Mayo and I've got into endless arguments with other Mayo fans over the sending off of Liam McHale in the '96 final replay. I thought Seamus McEaneny, the referee, was very harsh and selective when he sent big Liam to the line but, according to GAA rules, he was entitled to do so. End of sory.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 29, 2019, 10:23:08 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on July 29, 2019, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on July 28, 2019, 01:05:52 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 27, 2019, 05:36:42 PM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on July 27, 2019, 05:29:08 PM
Taking All Ireland Gold as a guide then football in the 2040's will make todays football look rubbish. With this knowledge, is there any point in playing now?
Yes, I long for the day that I can yap that football was much better in 2019. Regale the younger generation of how Tiernan McCann and the likes were real men unlike these pansies nowadays. I deserve a day like that.
;D
Agree with the sentiments about 'Football Gold'. Recall watching the 1977 Final and Dublin were absolutely rubbish...and they hammered us by 12 points, so you can guess what Armagh were like!! :'( It was reinforced to me recently when I watched ten or so minutes of our opening round defeat to Cavan in 1978. I was at that game but that was the first time since that day that I had seen any of the match. It was absolutely dreadful.
By the way, with reference to referees, check out the free that Seamus Aldridge awarded against Paddy Cullen in the '78 Final and from which Mike Sheehy chipped Kerry's second goal. The decision beggars belief.
Please don't ever mention that again, every time I see it I break out in a cold sweat and the temper rises in me. I can clearly remember watching it on the tv in our house in Coolock. I think it was the first time I ever cursed in front of my parents!!
Yep, THAT free had been a sore point with Dub supporters ever since and many who would be neutral can't see what the free was awarded for either. Fair enough....
I saw the incident and have watched a video re-run many times and I still can't see any obvious reason for Aldridge awarding that free. But, crucially, he was the referee and while I disagree with his decision, I also accept his authority.
Paddy Cullen should not have left his goal unattended and rush outfield to remonstrate with the ref. Not a single Dublin back was attending to hid primary duty either. All got worked up and wanted to hassle Aldridge and they should have known that he was most unlikely to change his mind.
As I've said, I didn't, and still don't, see what the fre ewas for and Aldridge never said what the reason was either.
Either you accept the ref's authority to adjudicate as he sees fit or anarchy rules okay?
BTW, I'm from Mayo and I've got into endless arguments with other Mayo fans over the sending off of Liam McHale in the '96 final replay. I thought Seamus McEaneny, the referee, was very harsh and selective when he sent big Liam to the line but, according to GAA rules, he was entitled to do so. End of sory.
Bit harsh on Cullen there. He didnt run out to remonstrate with the ref. He left his line to intercept the ball. Which was the right thing to do as a Kerryman would have got possession otherwise. He did a nice soccer style flick to beat the defender, which brought him further toward the sideline, but then the ref gave a free. Pretty sure the reason was for a pick-up, but it was never a pick-up. Paddy then just stood in disbelief with his hands in the air. Meanwhile one of the corner backs had gathered the ball (Kelleher I think) and he just handed it to Sheehy.
Hard to imagine anyone in Cullen's position reacting much differently. It was bizarre decision and while he was standing with hands in the air, the ball was in Dublin's hands, so there was no apparent danger. As soon as Sheehy got the ball and started to jog quickly to get into position to take the free, then Paddy got on his bike, but it was too late at that stage! Kelleher's naiviety was more to blame for me. Fantastic finish though!
Quote from: mup on July 29, 2019, 10:13:21 AM
He'll be forever revered in Kildare after that decision. There is a statue of him in Naas with veni, vidi, vici written on its plinth. :D
;D
Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 29, 2019, 10:23:08 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on July 29, 2019, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on July 28, 2019, 01:05:52 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 27, 2019, 05:36:42 PM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on July 27, 2019, 05:29:08 PM
Taking All Ireland Gold as a guide then football in the 2040's will make todays football look rubbish. With this knowledge, is there any point in playing now?
Yes, I long for the day that I can yap that football was much better in 2019. Regale the younger generation of how Tiernan McCann and the likes were real men unlike these pansies nowadays. I deserve a day like that.
;D
Agree with the sentiments about 'Football Gold'. Recall watching the 1977 Final and Dublin were absolutely rubbish...and they hammered us by 12 points, so you can guess what Armagh were like!! :'( It was reinforced to me recently when I watched ten or so minutes of our opening round defeat to Cavan in 1978. I was at that game but that was the first time since that day that I had seen any of the match. It was absolutely dreadful.
By the way, with reference to referees, check out the free that Seamus Aldridge awarded against Paddy Cullen in the '78 Final and from which Mike Sheehy chipped Kerry's second goal. The decision beggars belief.
Please don't ever mention that again, every time I see it I break out in a cold sweat and the temper rises in me. I can clearly remember watching it on the tv in our house in Coolock. I think it was the first time I ever cursed in front of my parents!!
Yep, THAT free had been a sore point with Dub supporters ever since and many who would be neutral can't see what the free was awarded for either. Fair enough....
I saw the incident and have watched a video re-run many times and I still can't see any obvious reason for Aldridge awarding that free. But, crucially, he was the referee and while I disagree with his decision, I also accept his authority.
Paddy Cullen should not have left his goal unattended and rush outfield to remonstrate with the ref. Not a single Dublin back was attending to hid primary duty either. All got worked up and wanted to hassle Aldridge and they should have known that he was most unlikely to change his mind.
As I've said, I didn't, and still don't, see what the fre ewas for and Aldridge never said what the reason was either.
Either you accept the ref's authority to adjudicate as he sees fit or anarchy rules okay?
BTW, I'm from Mayo and I've got into endless arguments with other Mayo fans over the sending off of Liam McHale in the '96 final replay. I thought Seamus McEaneny, the referee, was very harsh and selective when he sent big Liam to the line but, according to GAA rules, he was entitled to do so. End of sory.
Alright alright, move on, you're putting em in a really bad mood today
Quote from: mup on July 29, 2019, 10:13:21 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on July 28, 2019, 01:05:52 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 27, 2019, 05:36:42 PM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on July 27, 2019, 05:29:08 PM
Taking All Ireland Gold as a guide then football in the 2040's will make todays football look rubbish. With this knowledge, is there any point in playing now?
Yes, I long for the day that I can yap that football was much better in 2019. Regale the younger generation of how Tiernan McCann and the likes were real men unlike these pansies nowadays. I deserve a day like that.
;D
Agree with the sentiments about 'Football Gold'. Recall watching the 1977 Final and Dublin were absolutely rubbish...and they hammered us by 12 points, so you can guess what Armagh were like!! :'( It was reinforced to me recently when I watched ten or so minutes of our opening round defeat to Cavan in 1978. I was at that game but that was the first time since that day that I had seen any of the match. It was absolutely dreadful.
By the way, with reference to referees, check out the free that Seamus Aldridge awarded against Paddy Cullen in the '78 Final and from which Mike Sheehy chipped Kerry's second goal. The decision beggars belief.
He'll be forever revered in Kildare after that decision. There is a statue of him in Naas with veni, vidi, vici written on its plinth. :D
there was lots going on in the background between Aldridge and Tony Hanahoe who was the Dublin player/manager/ captain. led to a lot of bad blood
Quote from: Hound on July 29, 2019, 01:28:04 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 29, 2019, 10:23:08 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on July 29, 2019, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on July 28, 2019, 01:05:52 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 27, 2019, 05:36:42 PM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on July 27, 2019, 05:29:08 PM
Taking All Ireland Gold as a guide then football in the 2040's will make todays football look rubbish. With this knowledge, is there any point in playing now?
Yes, I long for the day that I can yap that football was much better in 2019. Regale the younger generation of how Tiernan McCann and the likes were real men unlike these pansies nowadays. I deserve a day like that.
;D
Agree with the sentiments about 'Football Gold'. Recall watching the 1977 Final and Dublin were absolutely rubbish...and they hammered us by 12 points, so you can guess what Armagh were like!! :'( It was reinforced to me recently when I watched ten or so minutes of our opening round defeat to Cavan in 1978. I was at that game but that was the first time since that day that I had seen any of the match. It was absolutely dreadful.
By the way, with reference to referees, check out the free that Seamus Aldridge awarded against Paddy Cullen in the '78 Final and from which Mike Sheehy chipped Kerry's second goal. The decision beggars belief.
Please don't ever mention that again, every time I see it I break out in a cold sweat and the temper rises in me. I can clearly remember watching it on the tv in our house in Coolock. I think it was the first time I ever cursed in front of my parents!!
Yep, THAT free had been a sore point with Dub supporters ever since and many who would be neutral can't see what the free was awarded for either. Fair enough....
I saw the incident and have watched a video re-run many times and I still can't see any obvious reason for Aldridge awarding that free. But, crucially, he was the referee and while I disagree with his decision, I also accept his authority.
Paddy Cullen should not have left his goal unattended and rush outfield to remonstrate with the ref. Not a single Dublin back was attending to hid primary duty either. All got worked up and wanted to hassle Aldridge and they should have known that he was most unlikely to change his mind.
As I've said, I didn't, and still don't, see what the fre ewas for and Aldridge never said what the reason was either.
Either you accept the ref's authority to adjudicate as he sees fit or anarchy rules okay?
BTW, I'm from Mayo and I've got into endless arguments with other Mayo fans over the sending off of Liam McHale in the '96 final replay. I thought Seamus McEaneny, the referee, was very harsh and selective when he sent big Liam to the line but, according to GAA rules, he was entitled to do so. End of sory.
Bit harsh on Cullen there. He didnt run out to remonstrate with the ref. He left his line to intercept the ball. Which was the right thing to do as a Kerryman would have got possession otherwise. He did a nice soccer style flick to beat the defender, which brought him further toward the sideline, but then the ref gave a free. Pretty sure the reason was for a pick-up, but it was never a pick-up. Paddy then just stood in disbelief with his hands in the air. Meanwhile one of the corner backs had gathered the ball (Kelleher I think) and he just handed it to Sheehy.
Hard to imagine anyone in Cullen's position reacting much differently. It was bizarre decision and while he was standing with hands in the air, the ball was in Dublin's hands, so there was no apparent danger. As soon as Sheehy got the ball and started to jog quickly to get into position to take the free, then Paddy got on his bike, but it was too late at that stage! Kelleher's naiviety was more to blame for me. Fantastic finish though!
Twas clean of the ground
Not to mention the innocence of the Dublin defender handing SHeedy the ball like his mammy told him to give the other boys a go