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Didn't Meat play Bundoran  not so long ago? Something tells me it was  in a big tent

2008 and a day later than expected due to health and safety issues with the tent.

https://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/fans-lap-up-late-meat-loaf/26462462.html

Offaly footballer Nigel Dunne after a career that spanned 15 years.

The 35-year old said he could no longer battle persistent injuries and deprive a younger Offaly player a place on match-day panels.

"I do so with no regrets,"  "I gave it everything I had for as long as I could, and genuinely the body can't go for one minute longer than it has with the load that is required for intercounty football.

"I am a lot happier walking around now these past few days that there is no mental anguish internally. I'm just relieved to have made the call."

Half time in the Munster U20 final Cork 0-3 Kerry 1-8. Awful mess in how Cork gave away the goal a few minutes before the break. Game live on TG4.

Cork look a poor team - by all accounts Tipp were robbed not to get into the final ahead of them
- an amount of skill and handling errors but the goal was the worst - an absolute gift to Kerry.
Kerry looking good in patches but a bit wasteful. Only looks like one winner here.

Kerry 2-15 to 1-10 winners. Cork poor compared to their 2022 Munster U17 winning team and I'm not sure how many of that team played tonight. How good Kerry are will been seen against Tyrone or Donegal next.

Half time in the Munster U20 final Cork 0-3 Kerry 1-8. Awful mess in how Cork gave away the goal a few minutes before the break. Game live on TG4.

Odds to win the Tailteann Cup should be a slight change after the draw on Wednesday.

Westmeath 5/2
Offaly 7/2
Kildare 3/1
Fermanagh 15/2
Sligo 15/2
Laois 13/1
Antrim 25/1
Limerick 33/1
Wexford 40/1
Wicklow 50/1
Longford 66/1
Tipperary 66/1
Carlow 88/1
London 100/1
Leitrim 100/1
New York 250/1
Waterford 250/1

When is the draw made for the groups?

First post on this thread.

Connacht final tickets went on sale today the prices

€35.00 for the covered stand.  Seating uncovered €30.00

Only unreserved left now.

Good portion of the covered stand are season ticket holders.

Be interesting to see what sort of challenge Mayo bring to Machale park on Sunday. The Connacht Final was decided on fine margins last year in Salthill and the odds on Mayo to win this time means they need no extra motivation.

I am afraid odds are one thing, reality of having a very unsettled line out and a potentially weaker squad at the moment is a totally different kettle of fish.
I am heading to it, but I am very concerned it could be 6pts or more loss. I am hoping I will be so wrong on this call.
If Joyce decides not to risk Walsh and Comer, then that equals things up considerably.

Even if they start I can't imagine Comer, Walsh will be up to speed after their injury lay off.

If McStay and his management gets the team to break even on kick-outs and get match ups right it should be another fine margin contest. 

Need some help with this one...following on from the 4 step rule did the Ref's not always used to give the benefit to the player who was being tackled unfairly with a few extra steps? or did I just imagine that.

A ref can recount steps if he deems a player is getting fouled.

Connacht final tickets went on sale today the prices

€35.00 for the covered stand.   Seating uncovered €30.00

Only unreserved left now.

Good portion of the covered stand are season ticket holders.

Be interesting to see what sort of challenge Mayo bring to Machale park on Sunday. The Connacht Final was decided on fine margins last year in Salthill and the odds on Mayo to win this time means they need no extra motivation.

If I were to rank the 16 teams

1. Armagh
2. Donegal
3. Kerry
4. Galway
5. Tyrone
6. Dublin
7. Mayo
8. Monaghan
9. Derry
10. Cork
11. Roscommon
12. Meath
13. Louth
14. Down
15. Cavan
16. Clare

Sam heading to Ulster again most likely

None of the Ulster teams have impressed me. Kerry vs Galway in the final, rematch of 2022.

Kerry was less impressive with how they overcame Cork than Donegal,Armagh in recent Ulster matches.

How many different managers have Liverpool won the league with?

I mind reading back here and someone more or less said if you take the Fergie era out that Man United haven't won that much so hard to understand why they're perceived such a big team. If you look at it Fergie won 13 and Busby 5 then there's 2 more from well over a century ago.

Liverpool have had Klopp, Dalglish, Paisley, Shankly and I'm sure a few others.

I am far from a Liverpool fan btw.

Ferguson and Busby managed the club for 50 plus years so was hard for anyone else to step in and win.  Longest serving manager Liverpool had of those you named was Shankly others was in charge for 6 to 9 years.


From keeping on those two for so long to now chopping and changing managers every two or three years shows how much of unstable club Man United are nowadays. Liverpool was in similar state until things stabilized with the appointment of Klopp and while Slot deserves the praise he's getting for winning the league title in his first season in charge it was still the team and squad built by Klopp.

Well done Meath. I wouldn't have expected this from them at half time in Navan two weeks ago when Offaly were 10 ahead.

Taking Dublin out of Croke Park is the smaller factor. It's the new rules have thrown a cat among the pigeons.
Dublin being the best resourced county team, have been well ahead of the rest in implementing systems to dominate under the old system. The big reset has removed this, but there's a good chance Dublin will pull ahead again in the coming years once they suss out the best ways to win.

Dublin's dominance at senior level was in no small part to their success underage level.  In contrast this year has been their 5th year in a row to not win a Leinster U20 title.   Today's Senior dominance coming to an end was sooner than expected but it was eventually going to happen regardless of rule changes. 

But provincial finalists can't meet, isn't that correct?

That's correct.

Are repeat fixtures from the provincial series avoided?

No Dublin could be in a group with Meath should they win Leinster for example.

Group stage draw on this Wednesday at 1:30pm


1st seeds -   Kerry/Clare   Galway/Mayo   Donegal/Armagh   Louth/Meath
2nd seeds -  Clare,Kerry     Galway/Mayo   Donegal/Armagh  Louth/Meath
3rd seeds -   Dublin,Tyrone,Monaghan,Roscommon
4th seeds -  Derry,Down,Cork,Cavan