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Title: Newcomer wondering about the strategy of the game
Post by: DaveCoram on July 16, 2019, 10:02:59 AM
Morning!

Hope you're all well!

Am an Englishman enjoying the coverage on Sky - just wondering about the following:

"In general, when are a team satisfied with scoring a point from an attack, and when will they be disappointed that they haven't scored a goal?"

Any light shed would be gratefully received ...

Dave
Title: Re: Newcomer wondering about the strategy of the game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 16, 2019, 10:19:00 AM
Quote from: DaveCoram on July 16, 2019, 10:02:59 AM
Morning!

Hope you're all well!

Am an Englishman enjoying the coverage on Sky - just wondering about the following:

"In general, when are a team satisfied with scoring a point from an attack, and when will they be disappointed that they haven't scored a goal?"

Any light shed would be gratefully received ...

Dave
First things first, welcome to the board and the sport itself.

IMO, If you're through one on one with the goalkeeper and it goes over the bar, you'd be disappointed, unless it's very late in the game and you're either 1 or 3 points ahead. Idea being a point could put you at least 2 scores ahead and the opposition probably won't have time to get them.

A point is always good if theres a defender between the attacker and the goal, especially if you're outside the 21m line.

As an outsider how have you found the game to watch out of curiosity?
Title: Re: Newcomer wondering about the strategy of the game
Post by: DaveCoram on July 16, 2019, 10:22:52 AM
Thanks for your reply - finding the game very watchable; full of twists and turns ...
Title: Re: Newcomer wondering about the strategy of the game
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on July 16, 2019, 10:26:48 AM
In most situations, imo, teams will be happy enough to take their point. Unless of course it was a guilt edged chance, or they were chasing a lead or running out of time to get a couple of points back.
Title: Re: Newcomer wondering about the strategy of the game
Post by: Rossfan on July 16, 2019, 11:01:33 AM
Points are the bread and butter while goals are the cake and the icing.
Title: Re: Newcomer wondering about the strategy of the game
Post by: seafoid on July 16, 2019, 11:26:12 AM
Goals get the crowd going

https://youtu.be/O3G1bwD0ao0

Teams who are doing well might score a few points in a row but a goal against the run of play can change the flow of a game. 2 goals within 5 minutes can finish off a team

Title: Re: Newcomer wondering about the strategy of the game
Post by: lurganblue on July 16, 2019, 11:34:45 AM
In the age of mass defence do teams work on creating goal scoring opportunities specifically or do they focus on breaking lines, creating space for the forwards and if a goal chance presents itself that's a bonus?
Title: Re: Newcomer wondering about the strategy of the game
Post by: armaghniac on July 16, 2019, 11:44:07 AM
I think fans often criticise their team for showboating and fruitlessly trying for goals when they couldl have had half a dozen points in the process.
Title: Re: Newcomer wondering about the strategy of the game
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 16, 2019, 04:37:16 PM
As the old phrase goes take your points and the goals will come. Sometimes the dynamic of the game will also determine if there's a goal for the taking. The really top teams will go for the jugular and can blitz teams....see the current Dublin football team and the great Kilkenny hurling team of a few years back. Even if there isn't a goal on if they think the opposition are rocking a wee bit they will go in for the kill and engineer the goal opportunity at a time when one might not seem on. A goal like that can be mentally devastating and the strong teams know that.

Anyway welcome aboard and enjoy the ride!!
Title: Re: Newcomer wondering about the strategy of the game
Post by: Eamonnca1 on July 16, 2019, 07:20:34 PM
Paul Flynn of Waterford sneaked in a nice goal in the Munster hurling final years back. He was taking a free and the defenders were having a chat on the goal line expecting him to lob it over the bar. He fired it at the corner of the net and in it went. Always a nice surprise when that sort of thing happens, but it was risky too. A point was there for the taking and his shot could have been stopped altogether. It's the classic bird-in-hand-worth-two-in-a-bush dilemma.

A lot depends on how the run of play is going. If your team is about 4 points down in the early second half and hasn't scored in the last ten minutes, a goal can really turn things around for the spirit of the team. They say a goal is worth more than three points by the time you factor in the psychology of it.
Title: Re: Newcomer wondering about the strategy of the game
Post by: Ball Hopper on July 16, 2019, 07:42:39 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on July 16, 2019, 07:20:34 PM
Paul Flynn of Waterford sneaked in a nice goal in the Munster hurling final years back. He was taking a free and the defenders were having a chat on the goal line expecting him to lob it over the bar. He fired it at the corner of the net and in it went. Always a nice surprise when that sort of thing happens, but it was risky too. A point was there for the taking and his shot could have been stopped altogether. It's the classic bird-in-hand-worth-two-in-a-bush dilemma.

A lot depends on how the run of play is going. If your team is about 4 points down in the early second half and hasn't scored in the last ten minutes, a goal can really turn things around for the spirit of the team. They say a goal is worth more than three points by the time you factor in the psychology of it.

I'd say three long range points are worth more than a softish goal.