Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2023

[clarshack]

But league and championship ARE completely separate. What about that is so hard to understand?

Then there should be cases of Divsion 3 and 4 teams playing in a Senior Championship. can you provide any examples?

[Ciarrai_thuaidh]

But league and championship ARE completely separate. What about that is so hard to understand?

Then there should be cases of Divsion 3 and 4 teams playing in a Senior Championship. can you provide any examples?

No problem. Douglas in Cork were division 3 league for a year or 2 and reached Senior county semi final in 2021. Bishopstown also Div 3 and play Senior A football.
John Mitchels in Kerry were playing Senior football and in Div 3 for a few years before dropping to intermediate eventually.

Any other questions?

[tiempo]

Look they're called the biggest dwarf All-Irelands for a reason, there's going to be a skew, AI junior champions are more than likely an under-performing intermediate team every year, same for Intermediate winners in relation to Senior. But there's counties who go that bit further to ensure their reps are artificially strong, which rips the arse out of it, it also provides an insight into the county as a whole, Cavan want the easy road to cheap thrills, Kerry have no shame. Is about the height of it.

[Itchy]

Look they're called the biggest dwarf All-Irelands for a reason, there's going to be a skew, AI junior champions are more than likely an under-performing intermediate team every year, same for Intermediate winners in relation to Senior. But there's counties who go that bit further to ensure their reps are artificially strong, which rips the arse out of it, it also provides an insight into the county as a whole, Cavan want the easy road to cheap thrills, Kerry have no shame. Is about the height of it.

And the other 90% of counties are the same except the pure of heart northern teams who do everything so fair.

[JoG2]

Look they're called the biggest dwarf All-Irelands for a reason, there's going to be a skew, AI junior champions are more than likely an under-performing intermediate team every year, same for Intermediate winners in relation to Senior. But there's counties who go that bit further to ensure their reps are artificially strong, which rips the arse out of it, it also provides an insight into the county as a whole, Cavan want the easy road to cheap thrills, Kerry have no shame. Is about the height of it.

And the other 90% of counties are the same except the pure of heart northern teams who do everything so fair.

Provincials, AI series is one thing, but it must be zero craic for most teams in the county junior championship. Leagues mean nothing and they've zero chance of competing with a Div 1 standard club in junior championship. Drop out rates must be hefty

[Keyser soze]

I think that any team that's good enough to win their respective county championship at junior or intermediate level shouldn't be allowed to compete in the provincial series as they are clearly too good for that level having already beat all the other teams in their own county, so there's a good chance that they will beat all the other teams from the other counties and thus become provincial champions.

In some cases they are beating other teams by a lot as well.

[general_lee]

But league and championship ARE completely separate. What about that is so hard to understand?

Then there should be cases of Divsion 3 and 4 teams playing in a Senior Championship. can you provide any examples?

No problem. Douglas in Cork were division 3 league for a year or 2 and reached Senior county semi final in 2021. Bishopstown also Div 3 and play Senior A football.
John Mitchels in Kerry were playing Senior football and in Div 3 for a few years before dropping to intermediate eventually.

Any other questions?

Cork would always throw up an anomaly or two considering they've about a million clubs.

[Itchy]

I think that any team that's good enough to win their respective county championship at junior or intermediate level shouldn't be allowed to compete in the provincial series as they are clearly too good for that level having already beat all the other teams in their own county, so there's a good chance that they will beat all the other teams from the other counties and thus become provincial champions.

In some cases they are beating other teams by a lot as well.

Indeed and in the case of counties like Cavan and the other 28 counties that don't link Championship and league, they should not be allowed send a team forward that might beat an opponent from Tyrone, Armagh or Derry. The main reason for this is that the incessant moaning from those 3 counties will result in people losing the will to live and taking up other sports. I expect Jarlath Burns will make this a priority of his term in charge.

[clarshack]

But league and championship ARE completely separate. What about that is so hard to understand?

Then there should be cases of Divsion 3 and 4 teams playing in a Senior Championship. can you provide any examples?

No problem. Douglas in Cork were division 3 league for a year or 2 and reached Senior county semi final in 2021. Bishopstown also Div 3 and play Senior A football.
John Mitchels in Kerry were playing Senior football and in Div 3 for a few years before dropping to intermediate eventually.

Any other questions?

Cork would always throw up an anomaly or two considering they've about a million clubs.

I thought I read once that John Mitchells were a bit entitled and felt that they were a Senior club even though they were no longer good enough?

[Keyser soze]

I think that any team that's good enough to win their respective county championship at junior or intermediate level shouldn't be allowed to compete in the provincial series as they are clearly too good for that level having already beat all the other teams in their own county, so there's a good chance that they will beat all the other teams from the other counties and thus become provincial champions.

In some cases they are beating other teams by a lot as well.

Indeed and in the case of counties like Cavan and the other 28 counties that don't link Championship and league, they should not be allowed send a team forward that might beat an opponent from Tyrone, Armagh or Derry. The main reason for this is that the incessant moaning from those 3 counties will result in people losing the will to live and taking up other sports. I expect Jarlath Burns will make this a priority of his term in charge.

Its just not fair so its not!!

Do SOMETHING!!

[Armagh18]

For all the crying the Cavan lads do and sending 3 division 1 clubs to represent the county they came out of it with an Ulster Junior and no more. Great to see

[Itchy]

For all the crying the Cavan lads do and sending 3 division 1 clubs to represent the county they came out of it with an Ulster Junior and no more. Great to see

Its not all about winning lad, sure as an Armagh supporter surely you must know that.

[Cavan19]

For all the crying the Cavan lads do and sending 3 division 1 clubs to represent the county they came out of it with an Ulster Junior and no more. Great to see

It wasn't the Cavan lads crying lol..

[tiempo]

Could clear this whole mess up with 2 simple steps. Cavan D1 is renamed Ulster Junior and the Kerry Junior is rebranded as the World Series.

[Itchy]

Could clear this whole mess up with 2 simple steps. Cavan D1 is renamed Ulster Junior and the Kerry Junior is rebranded as the World Series.

And the other 26 counties with the same set up?