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Title: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RONAN on February 05, 2008, 11:01:27 AM
Not sure if theres already a thread on here, but started watching the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship) for a year now, what a sport. These guys are in serious condition, "ultimate" athletes to say the least. Seems to be taking over as the no.1 "sport", if you wanna call it that, in America and beyond. Any other followers out there???
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Corporal on February 05, 2008, 01:25:07 PM
Was thinking of starting a thread on this myself Ronan! Big fan of the UFC, throughly enjoyable to watch! Just cant believe that Brock Lesnar got beat in his 1st match by Frank Mir! Was expecting him to kick ass! Ah well there you go! Big fan of Chuck Liddel although he seems to have lost his way abit recently and also like Michael Bisping! They are all top, top athletes!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RONAN on February 05, 2008, 02:04:25 PM
Ahh good stuff General, was startin to wonder was i the only man who enjoys seein grown men knock the tribe out of each other and shake hands after!!!Yeah i thought Lesnar was gonna rip the head of Mir, did you see the size of the mans hands. It shows that strikin isnt everything, Mir is unreal on the ground, same can be said for Noguiera who took brutal punishment from Silva but still choked him out.
Chuck Liddell fan myself, probably age has caught up on him but still put on a great show against the "axe murderer".
GSP has to be the best pound for pound at the minute, the guy is class.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 05, 2008, 02:24:33 PM
they are all not wise ! the fans aswell as the fighters  :D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 05, 2008, 04:47:01 PM
Undoubtedly one of the best UFC matches Ive ever seen

Forrest Griffin Vs Stephan Bonner
Round 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6k1-8-j8Ac (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6k1-8-j8Ac)
Round 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2WJIlOopZA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2WJIlOopZA&feature=related)
Round 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sDHpR4XkNg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sDHpR4XkNg&feature=related)

Both fighters were awarded contracts after this Ultimate Fighter Final.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on February 05, 2008, 06:46:29 PM
I'm a huge fan and have done a bit of training at home in armagh/tyrone and over here in New Jersey too.

There is a huge scene at home for those of you interested in the local scene - MMA Ireland and UFR promotion are both sources for information.

UFC is a great promotion and have worked well in EU and US to promote MMA with bringing in some great fighters.

I would agree that GSP is one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world today but Lesnar was never going to beat Mir.  In fact I thought they brought him in to expose that size and power will never beat skill and technique.  Frank Mir took a pounding to the face but kept his calm, applied his BJJ and implemented a great take down and heel hook from his back.

NOG against Sylvia was the same, amazing BJJ - text book sweep and choke. 

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Bacon on February 05, 2008, 07:05:09 PM
I thought this was something to do with Ulster farmers.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RONAN on May 26, 2008, 09:17:54 AM
Any of you hardcore fans watch it last night, sum quality knockouts, Silva left Jardine sleepin!!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 26, 2008, 09:30:27 AM
i was left sleeping watching it ;D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Candyman on May 26, 2008, 09:32:52 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on February 05, 2008, 06:46:29 PM
I'm a huge fan and have done a bit of training at home in armagh/tyrone and over here in New Jersey too.

There is a huge scene at home for those of you interested in the local scene - MMA Ireland and UFR promotion are both sources for information.

UFC is a great promotion and have worked well in EU and US to promote MMA with bringing in some great fighters.

I would agree that GSP is one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world today but Lesnar was never going to beat Mir.  In fact I thought they brought him in to expose that size and power will never beat skill and technique.  Frank Mir took a pounding to the face but kept his calm, applied his BJJ and implemented a great take down and heel hook from his back.

NOG against Sylvia was the same, amazing BJJ - text book sweep and choke. 


Ye'll never beat the KD kid...  ;)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on May 26, 2008, 09:45:32 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on February 05, 2008, 04:47:01 PM
Undoubtedly one of the best UFC matches Ive ever seen

Forrest Griffin Vs Stephan Bonner
Round 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6k1-8-j8Ac (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6k1-8-j8Ac)
Round 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2WJIlOopZA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2WJIlOopZA&feature=related)
Round 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sDHpR4XkNg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sDHpR4XkNg&feature=related)

Both fighters were awarded contracts after this Ultimate Fighter Final.

phew what a scrap...unreal!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RONAN on May 26, 2008, 10:18:12 AM
Good to see you joinin the UFC Max, beats talkin bout Derry football all the time ;)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on May 26, 2008, 11:17:48 AM
Its getting big very big around antrim and derry.  Usually shows on in the elk every now and again ran by EFR (used to be called UFR) the last show was in lurgan there last week.  www.fighttalk.co.uk is there online forum.

Has anyone seen Kimbo the big black man that used to do the street fights.  He has started the ufc and is cleaning up!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 26, 2008, 01:10:20 PM
Kimbo is not in the UFC

and the 2 fights he has had - let's just say - his opponents weren't up to much
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 26, 2008, 02:00:15 PM
Isnt there a place in lurgan that trains mma fighters. I think its based down in the clans gym.

Anybody watch the ultimate fighter series, unreal. The best year was the one with Ken Shamrock and Tito Ortiz. They near came to blows at every training session. Them 2 fellas hated each other.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on May 26, 2008, 09:31:15 PM
Watching a bit of UFC 84 at the moment and too be honest this hybrid sport if you like in my opinion is nowhere near as entertaining as a good boxing match.  I dont think the MMA or UFC will ever better boxing.  I find it pretty hard to watch, that meaning it can get become pretty gruesome viewing.  I seen one match where a guy tried to take another guy down but landed on his head when they fell and knocked himself out cold.  He was lying on the ground and the other guy on top of him threw the fist right into his jaw while he was unconscious!!  I dont much difference between MMA/UFC or whatever you call it and this brutal street fight, they are nearly bred out of the one........

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kuaexTfEwZs&feature=related
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on May 27, 2008, 04:34:48 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 26, 2008, 02:00:15 PM
Isnt there a place in lurgan that trains mma fighters. I think its based down in the clans gym.

Anybody watch the ultimate fighter series, unreal. The best year was the one with Ken Shamrock and Tito Ortiz. They near came to blows at every training session. Them 2 fellas hated each other.

Place in Lurgan is in the clans gm - trained there a few times - guy who was running it then (3 years ago) was John Fox - big guy who bounced at the time in the ashburn.  Good spot.  If you are really serious into training and you live in the north  - look into either Chum Sut in Lisburn (tom Lamont) or the EFR gym with Davey Patterson in Randelstown and now in Belfast I think.

Actually going to see Kimbo slice fight this weekend in the Rock in Newark.  I have not been impressed by him so far and don't think he has what it takes to go to the top in any of the bigger promotions.  He is training now under Bas Rutten so he has to improve - but he is nothing more than a cash cow for Elite who are milking him for all the tickets they can.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on May 27, 2008, 08:05:25 PM
training times for davy pattersons efr can be found on www.fighttalk.co.uk

they train at shanes castle between antrim and randalstown,

I think its phonemonal the fitness levels, flexability and explosive strength the fighters in the real UFC have.  The Ultimate fighter series were brilliant,that was deadly when tito ortiz and ken shamrock were the coaches, that series and the liddell and couture one were by far the best. 
Favourite ufc fighter would be liddell simply because he can pack a good punch!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: the colonel on May 28, 2008, 06:04:29 PM
watched ufc 84 the other nite,

do you think the ref should have stopped bj penn fight? thought that if he had got the round break he might have been ok,

to be fair to silva, he said it was gonna be a quick fight
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on May 28, 2008, 08:00:11 PM
definitely think the ref was right to stop the fight - sherk was finished  - he knew it, BJ knew and the ref knew it.

Silva did exactly what he had to do, he did what houston alexander did to Jardine - rushed him early, bombarded him with punches and watched the Dean of Mean fall

UFC 84 was a great card - watched it live online over here and was very impressed with some of the new guys
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on September 02, 2008, 06:05:34 PM
So it looks like Randy is back in the UFC - press conference scheduled in 2 hours.

His opponent is rumoured to be Brock Lesnar
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 02, 2008, 06:08:03 PM
That is big news - seemed like there would be no reconciliation between him and Dana White.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on September 02, 2008, 06:41:55 PM
talking about a fight with Lesnar - if he wins that they will bring in Fedor or he has a unification fight with the winner of Mir/ Noguiera

great to see as the HW division was getting boring

Couture is a living legend and I hope he can cope with Lesnar's size and power - if so it will set up the fight everyone wants to see before it is too late - Fedor and Randy!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 02, 2008, 07:02:30 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on September 02, 2008, 06:41:55 PM
talking about a fight with Lesnar - if he wins that they will bring in Fedor or he has a unification fight with the winner of Mir/ Noguiera

great to see as the HW division was getting boring

Couture is a living legend and I hope he can cope with Lesnar's size and power - if so it will set up the fight everyone wants to see before it is too late - Fedor and Randy!

Saw Couture after he watched Fedor destroy Sylvia. He didn't even sound too keen on taking on Fedor when interviewed afterwards. Think Fedor would be too much for him at this stage.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on September 02, 2008, 10:08:23 PM
is that tim slyvia of the ufc? didn't know fedor has already fought in the ufc ??? and has randy rejoined the ufc?? i much prefer pride but they don't have many good fighters left now. fedor is the best pound for pound mma fighter!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on September 03, 2008, 01:21:47 PM
Tim Sylvia fights for Affliction / M-1 and Fedor fights for Affliction / M-1. They had a fight a few months ago for the WAMMA Heavyweight title which Fedor killed Tim in like 40 seconds. Andrei Arlovski fights for that company as well

Randy has returned to UFC - as of yesterday

UFC bought Pride last year - then the old PRIDE employees joined up with the guys who owned K-1 to form a new MMA company called DREAM
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on September 03, 2008, 02:46:51 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on September 03, 2008, 01:21:47 PM
Tim Sylvia fights for Affliction / M-1 and Fedor fights for Affliction / M-1. They had a fight a few months ago for the WAMMA Heavyweight title which Fedor killed Tim in like 40 seconds. Andrei Arlovski fights for that company as well

Randy has returned to UFC - as of yesterday

UFC bought Pride last year - then the old PRIDE employees joined up with the guys who owned K-1 to form a new MMA company called DREAM

I can't see any of them making any inroads in the market.  The UFC seems to have it tied up and with Randy back hopefully he can help create a fighters union or coalition to make sure these guys are paid what they are worth.

Affliction had a great card but their next card is all the same fighters fighting each other again.  Not sure that will go down that well with the PPV paying fans.
UFC is where its all happening.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on September 04, 2008, 12:51:25 AM
so tim sylvia fights for affliction/m-1 & ufc whereas fedor only fights for affliction/m-1. that's a tad confusing :D hopefully he'll join the ufc soon!!

i bet no one would dare to face fedor except perhaps brock lesnar??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on September 04, 2008, 01:44:52 PM
Quote from: Medic on September 04, 2008, 12:51:25 AM
so tim sylvia fights for affliction/m-1 & ufc

he doesn't fight for UFC anymore
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on September 04, 2008, 03:37:51 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on September 04, 2008, 01:44:52 PM
Quote from: Medic on September 04, 2008, 12:51:25 AM
so tim sylvia fights for affliction/m-1 & ufc

he doesn't fight for UFC anymore

thank God! he was useless! he belongs in Elite XC with Kimbo slice
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on September 04, 2008, 08:57:21 PM
haha damn true!! just seen their encounter over at daily motion. you can tell from body language that tim didn't have a fighting chance, fedor is a bad-ass of a fighter!!

now we are all dying to see "here comes the pain" vs fedor, that would just be the most spectacular encounter ever!!!
Title: Evan Tanner
Post by: full back on September 09, 2008, 01:35:43 PM
Sad news from the UFC

Evan Tanner 1971-2008By Thomas Gerbasi

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do it. It's hard to identify with me; it's just something I do."
---Evan Tanner, 2005

On what will unquestionably be remembered as one of mixed martial arts' saddest days, former UFC middleweight champion Evan Tanner - beloved by fans for his fighting ability and by friends for his free spirit – has passed away at the age of 37.

Tanner, on a camping trip in the Palo Verde mountain area, was found by an Imperial County Sheriff's Department Deputy on Monday. The cause of death is not known at this time. He had not answered friends' text messages since last Wednesday, and was officially reported missing on Friday.

On his personal Spike TV web blog, Tanner discussed the trip and how a failure of equipment could be fatal, but in a subsequent blog, he downplayed such fears, writing, "It seems some MMA websites have reported on the story, posting up that I might die out in the desert, or that it might be my greatest opponent yet, etc. Come on guys. It's really common down in southern California to go out to the off road recreation areas in the desert about an hour away from LA and San Diego. So my plan is to go out to the desert, do some camping, ride the motorcycle, and shoot some guns. Sounds like a lot of fun to me. A lot of people do it. This isn't a version of "Into the Wild". I'm not going out into the desert with a pair of shorts and a bowie knife, to try to live off the land. I'm going fully geared up, and I'm planning on having some fun."

His agent, John Hayner, says that Tanner was excited about the trip and in a good place physically and mentally before his untimely death.

"He was in a good state of mind the last time we spoke," said Hayner. "Everyone that was around him, and even at the gym he was training at, also said he was in a great state of mind. Living in Oceanside (California), he really liked being on the beach. His house was across from the water, he was in beautiful surroundings."

If one thing was ever clear about Tanner, it was that he loved life, the outdoors, and adventure.

"He was always planning on going on some sort of adventure," said Hayner. "And he never needed the finer things or made a fuss about them. He just needed enough for gas, shelter, and training."

A native of Amarillo, Texas, Tanner worked various jobs as a bouncer, a cable TV contractor, a framer building beach houses, a dishwasher, a baker, a ditch digger, and a slaughterhouse worker before stumbling on to mixed martial arts in 1997.

Over the next 11 years, fighting would be a major part of his life, to the tune of 42 professional bouts, but as he said earlier this year before what would be his final bout against Kendall Grove, he never considered himself a fighter.

"I always thought of myself as the poet, the writer, or the philosopher – I never thought of myself as a fighter," he chuckled. "But here I am. I always had an idea of the flow of my life, but not exactly what I would be doing day to day. And fighting definitely wasn't something I thought I'd be doing."

But he was good at it – very good in fact. Over the course of his career, Tanner (34-8) scored wins over Paul Buentello, Heath Herring, Ikuhisa Minowa, Justin McCully, Elvis Sinosic, Phil Baroni (twice), and Robbie Lawler. His biggest win, however, came at UFC 51 on February 5, 2005, when he stopped David Terrell in the first round to win the UFC middleweight championship.

Tanner would lose the belt to Rich Franklin in his first defense four months later, but the fans never abandoned him, and he returned that admiration, both in person and through his internet blogs.

"I wanted to give something back to the fans and let them know that I'm just a regular guy," said Tanner in early 2008. "Some of the guys forget that and get caught up in the lights, and I never want to forget that and that I'm one of the lucky ones that got a chance to get out there and do this. There are a lot of great athletes out there, a lot of great fighters that never got the chance. I'm one of the lucky ones that did, so writing the blog and telling life as it is helps me stay grounded and it gives me a way to connect with the fans and give them something back."

His blogs were more than just fight talk and product advertisements though. Tanner spoke frankly about life and his struggles in and out of the Octagon. And when   
he made his return to the UFC in 2008 after almost two years away, it was a triumph of the human spirit and an inspiration, regardless of whose hand was raised at the end of the fight.

"My thought was that I'm in a position where I've done some things and some people look up to me a little bit and maybe something in my story can help inspire them or motivate them to get through some things or do something better," said Tanner before his return against Yushin Okami at UFC 82 in March. "If that's the case and it helps anybody else out, then it's worth me facing the embarrassment."

He fell short in his final two bouts against Okami and Grove, but there was no keeping him down, and his off-time after the Grove bout was filled with more of his adventures, as well as participation in Harley-Davidson's 105th anniversary celebration.

Sadly, there will be no more adventures, only memories of Evan Tanner.

"Evan was such a unique individual, and he was okay being an individual," said Hayner. "He was okay with taking the path less traveled, and he often chose that harder path."

It was simply who he was. Just read the words he spoke to me before I wished him luck for his fight against Grove in June.

"Everything's been about the journey," he said. "I never really set out with goals for fighting; it's been about the adventure along the way. When you're on your death bed, it's those stories, those little adventures that are going to be the things that you remember. It's not so much getting there, but how you got there."

And he did it his way.

Leave it to me as I find a way to be
Consider me a satellite, forever orbiting
I knew all the rules, but the rules did not know me
Guaranteed
---Eddie Vedder, "Guaranteed". The song playing on Evan Tanner's myspace page.

Rest in Peace, Evan.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on September 10, 2008, 04:27:56 PM
friggin mad
very sad for the man but he was one of those peaceful warrior poet guys

RIP
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on October 01, 2008, 02:51:30 PM
UFC announce Dublin event for January 17

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=14869

Dan Henderson vs Rich Franklin
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: full back on October 01, 2008, 02:54:07 PM
Hope its nothing like his Franklin's last fight in Ireland :-\
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RONAN on October 01, 2008, 03:08:52 PM
Rang the 02 arena there and they have been tortured all day about tickets!!!
Yeah agree there Full Back, his last fight was pure dung but havent seen a bad Henderson fight yet so watch this space.......
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on October 01, 2008, 04:57:24 PM
surprised at this fight for both guys
Franklin moved to LHW because he was getting nowhere in MW and wanted to get a title shot of some description - there is definitely some decent fights for him here at LHW with his next supposed opponent being Chuck not Henderson.
Henderson dropped down from LHW and was supposed to be campaigning at MW - he expressed a desire for a re-match with Anderson Silva for the MW title and now jumps back up to LHW to fight Franklin?

Don't get me wrong - it will be a great fight but I don't understand Henderson's motivation (apart from money).
Is he now going to campaign at two weights? Or is this just a big name fight to appease the fans?

Either way Dublin wins  - should be a good card
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bridgegael on November 16, 2008, 02:12:17 PM
randy couture was beaten by brock lesnar last night for the heavyweight title.  lesnar was just far too strong for couture. ref stopped the fight after lesnerr floored couture and began to ground and pound him.  he is just an animal and i think he'll be champion for a long time. 

some good fights on the undercard also,  thought aaron riley and jorge gurgel was a very good fight,  riley won on points.

rickey hatton took a break from training and was in the crowd watching it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: corn02 on November 16, 2008, 02:32:09 PM
Quote from: bridgegael on November 16, 2008, 02:12:17 PM
randy couture was beaten by brock lesnar last night for the heavyweight title.  lesnar was just far too strong for couture. ref stopped the fight after lesnerr floored couture and began to ground and pound him.  he is just an animal and i think he'll be champion for a long time. 

some good fights on the undercard also,  thought aaron riley and jorge gurgel was a very good fight,  riley won on points.

rickey hatton took a break from training and was in the crowd watching it.

Lesnar took him to pieces to be fair. Couture gots next to no offensive during the match.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: full back on November 17, 2008, 03:20:21 PM
Lesnar is f**king huge. The size difference between the fighters suggested it could be one sided & so it proved.
Cant see anyone beating Lesnar for a while yet. The longer he practices the more experienced he will get, making a chance to submit him more unlikely
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 17, 2008, 04:02:53 PM
Big Nog will beat him
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on November 18, 2008, 02:30:59 PM
big nog is the only one out there who can beat him
Mir wouldn't have what it takes now that Lesnar isn't so green
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 12, 2008, 01:15:20 AM
horrible leg break last night

I'll post the link to the picture

********************do not look if you are squeamish*******************************

http://i34.tinypic.com/24275ao.jpg
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: whiskeysteve on December 12, 2008, 04:07:57 AM
sur thon ufc's alll a load of half naked men rastling around on the ground tryin 2 get a hould of the other man s arse
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 12, 2008, 04:47:03 PM
yeah - that's exactly what it is  ::)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 12, 2008, 04:57:36 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on December 12, 2008, 04:07:57 AM
sur thon ufc's alll a load of half naked men rastling around on the ground tryin 2 get a hould of the other man s arse

2 minutes and one broken arm later and you'd be a believer shiskeysteve
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on December 12, 2008, 06:22:09 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on December 12, 2008, 01:15:20 AM
horrible leg break last night

I'll post the link to the picture

********************do not look if you are squeamish*******************************

http://i34.tinypic.com/24275ao.jpg

Nasty. I actually thought it was a photoshop at first but it's very real unfortunately.

That was on the show the last night wasn't it? A fighter nearly had his arm ripped off as well on that show when he didn't tap when caught in an armbar. It was bent horribly in the wrong direction and the ref had to stop it as your man wasn't tapping.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 12, 2008, 06:25:51 PM
it was on the event - but it wasn't shown on TV

and yes another fighter had his arm snapped when in an armbar
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 12, 2008, 06:32:57 PM
hassaan was stupid for not tapping  - cantwell though was a bit of a p***k afterwards - boasting about breaking someone's arms. Pay some respect at least.
It was a good enough card with some exciting fights.  Saunders was very impressive with his Thai clinch and use of the knees, KOS's knockout was excellent and Nate Loughran showed great heart to take and win the fight on short notice with a lot of weight to cut.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: glens73 on December 12, 2008, 08:48:50 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on December 12, 2008, 04:07:57 AM
sur thon ufc's alll a load of half naked men rastling around on the ground tryin 2 get a hould of the other man s arse

Maybe you're right - there's an ad at the bottom of this thread for gay ebony dating - are they that desperate for ad revenue? - How many gay black irishmen can there be?

Obviously, you're not right. MMA is a very disciplined sport with UFC having some very competitive fights where unbeaten records don't last long and generally a lot of fights are 50/50 apart from where Anderson Silva is concerned.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: mattockranger on January 26, 2009, 12:17:17 PM
Did anyone catch fedor's KO last night on Bravo

affliction day of reckoning!!

Awesome!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 26, 2009, 01:54:27 PM
didn't know what happened to AA at first but he was well caught.
If he had stuck to the boxing he might have won the fight - he was doing well before he tried the flying knee
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: full back on January 26, 2009, 01:59:27 PM
When I watched it the first time I didnt see the punch
Had to watch the replays - tasty punch
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Corporal on January 27, 2009, 08:14:32 AM
Was on Youtube last night and saw the whole (36 secs) Fedor v Tim Sylvia fight. He was the UFC heavyweight champ for a while and Fedor choked him out in 36 secs, what an animal. Would love to see Fedor v Lesnar!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: glens73 on February 01, 2009, 08:11:59 AM
Some performance by GSP against BJ Penn. GSP is awesome and the way he keeps improving each fight is phenomenal, totally dominated Penn, who is possily the most naturally gifted fighter in MMA.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on May 28, 2009, 09:37:19 PM
what about lyoto machida "the new ufc light heavyweight champion". is he now the new bruce lee?:o

really didn't expect the fight to end that easy but apparently if you take up karate you can kick the sh1t out of anybody :D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: whiskeysteve on May 29, 2009, 01:31:50 PM
Where can u see highlights?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 13, 2009, 05:09:43 PM
So can anyone stop GSP and/or Lesnar?  :D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 13, 2009, 07:43:55 PM
I can't see anyone from the current pool of HW's even coming close to threatening Lesnar
GSP against Mike Swick is the only real fight out there at WW for GSP though I suspect he will take some time to pack on muscle and move up to MW.  I wouldn't want GSP to face Silva to soon though - feed him some guys first until he is comfortable at the weight and then lets see....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: thejuice on July 13, 2009, 08:44:52 PM
Watching the Mir - Lesnar fight here:

http://www.inquisitr.com/28953/ufc-100-brock-lesnar-vs-frank-mir-results-and-video/
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on August 08, 2009, 03:16:24 PM
Anyone watching UFC101 tonight?

BJ Penn vs Kenny Florian for the UFC lightweight championship and Anderson Silva Vs. Forrest Griffin is on the card as well.  Should be good!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 05:44:07 PM
Just got the ufc ps3 game there it's fantastic is it worth watching ufc then? I watched one where some poor chap had to stay in a steam room for 2 hours to lose weight....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on August 09, 2009, 12:51:04 AM
Ya its worth watching.  I wouldn't be a huge fan, I have watched it a bit over the last few years, I was always more of a boxing fan, but it has grown on me so tonight will be the first PPV I stay up to watch.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: SLIGONIAN on August 13, 2009, 10:45:00 PM
Did any of ye see Anderson Silva fight against Forrest Griffin, awesome performance....

Penn beat Kenny Florian handy enough..

Showtime show UFC over here, really into it now, Diego Sanchez is probably my favouriite... I see Dana White and Tito Ortis have made up and Titos back in UFC,,, Brock Lesnar is the man to beat at heavyweight...

In UFC 100 that was some knock out by Henderson on Bisping...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on October 01, 2009, 11:56:37 PM
Anyone watching TUF 10?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: tyroneman on October 02, 2009, 11:53:46 AM
They need to get fedor into the ufc
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on October 02, 2009, 01:39:35 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 01, 2009, 11:56:37 PM
Anyone watching TUF 10?
Aye I'm watching it Gabe.  Good enough so far with Rampage's personality dominating the show and making up for the amateurish performances by the fighters and lack of action in the house.
Kimbo comes across as a humble, down to earth guy.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: SLIGONIAN on October 02, 2009, 02:00:30 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on October 02, 2009, 01:39:35 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 01, 2009, 11:56:37 PM
Anyone watching TUF 10?
Aye I'm watching it Gabe.  Good enough so far with Rampage's personality dominating the show and making up for the amateurish performances by the fighters and lack of action in the house.
Kimbo comes across as a humble, down to earth guy.

Im watching aswell, just seen 2nd episode last night, Kimbos fight, had serious bother on the ground wrestling couldnt get yer mans 265 pds off him. Might not be the end of Kimbo Slice though.

Did ye hear Rampage has retired and has renegaded on his fight with Rashid to focus on his actng career. Bit of a cop out and im sure he has broken his contract with UFC.

Chuck lidell on dancing with the stars in the states. These lads like the fame.

Fedor wa offered a huge contract to go UFC and dana was sure hed take it, but Fedors team want co promotion revenue and commercial stuff so UFC backed out which is right IMO. Dana reckons fedor doesnt want to fight in UFC.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on November 09, 2009, 06:18:14 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 13, 2009, 05:09:43 PM
So can anyone stop GSP and/or Lesnar?  :D

fedor ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygLhY2RsgRQ
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on November 09, 2009, 06:50:16 PM
Lesnar would dominate Fedor based on Fedor's performance this past weekend.

GSP is a different weight class....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ross4life on October 23, 2010, 10:12:01 PM
UFC 121: Lesnar vs. Velasquez at 4am should be a good one
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on October 24, 2010, 12:02:32 AM
Cant wait for it - heading to Applebees shortly with a couple of mates. $2 bud light pints and half prize appetizers. HD 52 inch screen at the table - couldnt beat it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ross4life on October 24, 2010, 01:16:13 PM
Lesnar will do well to come back from that bad beating? Velasquez is suppose to get punch harder than any boxer He'll take some beating
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on October 25, 2010, 01:49:33 PM
Velasquez is the real deal. He was mobile, lots of head movement, used the angles well, clearly out boxed Lesnar and was able to take him down and show great ability to get back up from Brock's take downs.
Before this fight, Cain did not look like a big puncher. He wasn't able to stop Kongo,although he did land a nice punch on Big Nog to finish him.
He looked like he pulverised Brock.

I can see a Mir submitting him in fairness. Cain could just be Brock's kryptonite. This blows the division wide open and sets up a lot of fights.
Carwin has a comeback fight, then Brock, then a rematch. Mir is in the mix, Junior Dos Santos, Roy Nelson, Brendan Schaub dominated Gabe Gonzaga so he has to be included. A lot of talent there and a lot of exciting fights.....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 01, 2011, 05:51:35 PM
Watched my first full UFC event last night.

Main event was guff, largely strikes. GSP fully deserving of win.

Randy Couture was well beaten - never stood a chance and was knocked out by a fantastic front kick.

The Feeatherweight Title fight between Aldo and Hominick however was absolutely brilliant. The swelling on Hominick's eye was the size of a tennis ball!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 01, 2011, 11:40:12 PM
Was at the show last night - absolutely cracking experience.
Aldo/Hominick was great. Fight of the night was McDonald vs Diaz for me. Place went crazy when he was throwing Diaz around with those suplexes.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on May 02, 2011, 08:08:40 PM
Hominick had some lump on his head, fair play to him for fighting on and for the ref for letting it go on. Great fight with Aldo not looking as super human as normal.

Mcdonald is a great prospect, he's a long lad with a very bright future ahead of him.

I get a bit annoyed at people who want GSP to be more exciting or to finish the fight. Shields has been stopped once in 11 years, he is undefeated in 5 years, he ate Dan Henderson's biggest overhand right and kept going. If GSP throws caution to the wind and fights the fans fight then he wont be a champion for too long.

Gabe, glad you like the event, I have made a few now and the atmosphere is unreal. Some amount of fights if you manage to catch them all and for the most part everyone in the arena is there for a good time.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 12, 2011, 02:15:22 PM
Not sure if any of you are fans but you can usually catch all the fights the afternoon after the PPV on this website:
UFC 131 last night in Vegas, decent card

http://www.pancrase.org/videos/ (http://www.pancrase.org/videos/)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on June 27, 2011, 05:43:16 AM
Cracking night of fights tonight - go out of your way to see the main event - craziness
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 06, 2011, 05:06:08 PM
Great card coming up this weekend. Jon Jones from NY, youngest ever UFC Champion. An amazing talent.
Here's an article a mate of mine put together to preview the fight.

http://betting.betfair.ie/specials/ufc-betting-preview-061211.html (http://betting.betfair.ie/specials/ufc-betting-preview-061211.html)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on December 23, 2011, 10:53:55 AM
ufc 141 countdown lesnar vs overeem

part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2rt36JZsZo

part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooWNNde_oFs
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: paco on December 23, 2011, 12:41:37 PM
Where and when can you watch it?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 23, 2011, 03:33:40 PM
It's on the 30th not sure is it on ESPN yet but sure to be plenty of streams about. If Lesnar gets beaten again he may decide to quit UFC especially with the diverticulitis condition he has.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JUst retired on December 24, 2011, 06:30:54 AM
Does that condition mean he is going a different road. :D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 02, 2012, 12:42:02 AM
Well Brock Lesnar officially retired from MMA, I reckon he makes an appearance in the next 6 months in WWE against the Undertaker.....

Nate Diaz put on a fantastic fight against Cerrone and the rest of the card was great with 3 spectacular KO's.

www.pancrase.org (http://www.pancrase.org) for anyone who wants to watch the fights.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 02, 2012, 01:34:59 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on January 02, 2012, 12:42:02 AM
Well Brock Lesnar officially retired from MMA, I reckon he makes an appearance in the next 6 months in WWE against the Undertaker.....
He didn't look right since his illness (12 inches of his intestines removed) at least he got two big pay packets before the expected retirement. As far as i know he's still under 2/3 yr contract with the UFC so maybe some promotional work before he returns to wrestling.


Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on April 04, 2012, 06:09:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXQLWUQYr6Q&feature=related

Chael Sonnen is the man!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 09, 2012, 12:24:07 AM
Anyone heading to UFC in Sweden?Looks like a decent card.
Heading to Diaz Miller in the NJ in May - cant wait!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 29, 2013, 05:31:46 AM
Well - that's the end for Anderson Silva's career now
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on December 30, 2013, 04:11:03 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on December 29, 2013, 05:31:46 AM
Well - that's the end for Anderson Silva's career now

Looks like GSP & Anderson Silva are out of the picture. Feel bad for Silva - can't see him make a comeback after that gruesome leg break! Here's hoping for the best for both! :)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DoireGael on July 16, 2014, 11:56:58 AM
Conor McGregor Fight this Saturday. (Hoping on the Bandwagon)

1. Does anyone know of bars in London showing this?

2. I presume its Pay Per View, can I get it on Sky?

Cheers in advance.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 16, 2014, 12:06:06 PM
Should be easy enough got,it's on tv3 and think it can be got on Sky these days?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ballinaman on July 16, 2014, 01:08:28 PM
Going myself...going to be carnage. Poor lad doesn't know what he's in for, McGregor looks a man possessed.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DoireGael on July 16, 2014, 01:11:12 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 16, 2014, 12:06:06 PM
Should be easy enough got,it's on tv3 and think it can be got on Sky these days?

Don't have Sky Sports. I will give O'Neill's a go.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 16, 2014, 09:47:02 PM
McGregor has no easy task ahead. Brandao is a dangerous striker and a whizz on the ground (seldom goes there). He has been up and down in his last few performances and has a point to prove. I'm not sure if he is ready for the Dublin crowd but i'm sure it will play a factor.
The icelandic Dubliner - Gunnar Nelson - should put on a great performance. He is a joy to watch at 170 and is a future champ without a doubt.

Cathal Pendred I am not fully convinced on him yet - his stint on TUF did nothing to prove he can hang with the big boys....

Norman Park - Bushmills man - yes one of those ha - he's a decent enough lad from a great gym but he hasnt KO power and I havent really seen his Judo yet. I think he will get a sour reception in Dublin as his banner and walkout flag are both the red hand.....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DoireGael on July 23, 2014, 09:00:35 AM
Conor McGregor vs. Dustin Poirier set for UFC 178..........thoughts?

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on July 23, 2014, 09:34:56 AM
Any word on James Gallagher going pro?  How good is he?  Still very young.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ballinaman on September 27, 2014, 09:15:05 PM
Quote from: DoireGael on July 23, 2014, 09:00:35 AM
Conor McGregor vs. Dustin Poirier set for UFC 178..........thoughts?
Nearly time!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 27, 2014, 10:36:02 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 23, 2014, 09:34:56 AM
Any word on James Gallagher going pro?  How good is he?  Still very young.

a lot of knowledgeable people feel he's destined for big things.

Quote from: ballinaman on September 27, 2014, 09:15:05 PM
Quote from: DoireGael on July 23, 2014, 09:00:35 AM
Conor McGregor vs. Dustin Poirier set for UFC 178..........thoughts?
Nearly time!

Looking forward to this, been a great build up and McGregor has got under his skin, hope i can stay awake after a long day in Croker. the atmosphere looked unreal at the weigh in
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 27, 2014, 10:57:07 PM
Is this McGregor chap as big a w**ker as he seems? Anytime I have seen him on the Late Late etc. he comes across as an absolute bellend.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 27, 2014, 11:05:14 PM
dont know personally but its a bit like marmite. you got to hand it to him, this is a money making business and he's on a huge card, the UFC Dublin atmosphere made the powers that be stand up and take note. dolla dolla
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 27, 2014, 11:20:36 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 27, 2014, 10:57:07 PM
Is this McGregor chap as big a w**ker as he seems? Anytime I have seen him on the Late Late etc. he comes across as an absolute bellend.

He isn't short on confidence, interview on Setanta recently http://t.co/uCjXSnbJUL
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 27, 2014, 11:23:59 PM
he sounds and looks an awful lot like Tom Court
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 28, 2014, 04:03:11 AM
sits in his seat for 2 mins extra then comes out and wins then basically admits he neeeded it to recover, lol thats bad
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on September 28, 2014, 04:06:18 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on September 28, 2014, 04:03:11 AM
sits in his seat for 2 mins extra then comes out and wins then basically admits he neeeded it to recover, lol thats bad

Can't believe I managed to get up. . . that was a hell of a fight though. Please tell me McGregor's next!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on September 28, 2014, 04:09:01 AM
Good stuff no messing!!! Foggy Dew. . . deadly way to enter a ring!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on September 28, 2014, 04:11:08 AM
There's the packet racket!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on September 28, 2014, 04:18:08 AM
Jesus!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 28, 2014, 04:27:18 AM
Pushing McGregor like f**k, I love his confidence.


The cynic in me tells me that fight was rigged as f**k as someone else previously mentioned
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on September 28, 2014, 11:45:56 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on September 28, 2014, 04:27:18 AM
Pushing McGregor like f**k, I love his confidence.


The cynic in me tells me that fight was rigged as f**k as someone else previously mentioned

Rigged?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Sidney on September 28, 2014, 12:16:23 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on September 28, 2014, 04:27:18 AM
Pushing McGregor like f**k, I love his confidence.


The cynic in me tells me that fight was rigged as f**k as someone else previously mentioned
UFC follows a storyline and is fixed - it's like wrestling.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on September 28, 2014, 12:25:45 PM
Quote from: Sidney on September 28, 2014, 12:16:23 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on September 28, 2014, 04:27:18 AM
Pushing McGregor like f**k, I love his confidence.


The cynic in me tells me that fight was rigged as f**k as someone else previously mentioned
UFC follows a storyline and is fixed - it's like wrestling.


Don't pretend to know a lot about it but pretty sure there is one main difference between UFC and wrestling.....

Mainly the complete battering matches.....

Brutal enough watching at times...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
Razzmatazz, steroids and fan boys. Joke of a sport.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on September 28, 2014, 12:55:17 PM
Complete fix
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: J OGorman on September 28, 2014, 01:14:25 PM
Yer man goes down on his knee with a brush of the knuckle to the back of the head....surely not?  :o
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 03:08:35 PM
ye lot sound like that bitter man mc kenna

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 07:07:21 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 03:08:35 PM
ye lot sound like that bitter man mc kenna

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh

Kavanagh was out of order publishing McKenna's phone number.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 07:34:33 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 07:07:21 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 03:08:35 PM
ye lot sound like that bitter man mc kenna

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh

Kavanagh was out of order publishing McKenna's phone number.

Mc Kenna is out of order constantly slating everyone.

Heres the left hook that Conor dished out before the knock out, this did the damage, shameful stuff as usual from the plastic paddys knocking our own

http://zippy.gfycat.com/EllipticalZealousElkhound.webm
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 07:38:12 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
Razzmatazz, steroids and fan boys. Joke of a sport.

Geezer coaches out in the same gym now thanks to the owner John Kavanagh. Joke of a man eh ?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mcgeeney-an-animal-claims-fighter-mcgregor-284111.html
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: J OGorman on September 28, 2014, 07:47:19 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 07:34:33 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 07:07:21 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 03:08:35 PM
ye lot sound like that bitter man mc kenna

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh

Kavanagh was out of order publishing McKenna's phone number.

Mc Kenna is out of order constantly slating everyone.

Heres the left hook that Conor dished out before the knock out, this did the damage, shameful stuff as usual from the plastic paddys knocking our own

http://zippy.gfycat.com/EllipticalZealousElkhound.webm

No need to be so precious.  I support any and all representing the country, but that finish has to be questioned.

(And showing a left handed jab with yer man looking pretty unfazed and still light on his feet isn't much proof)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on September 28, 2014, 07:50:53 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 07:07:21 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 03:08:35 PM
ye lot sound like that bitter man mc kenna

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh

Kavanagh was out of order publishing McKenna's phone number.

as much as I detest Mc kenna and I really really hate the f**ker. I agree with you on that. Kavanagh comes across as a guy whose ego is bigger then Mc gregor's
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 28, 2014, 08:21:13 PM
I thought the Cat Zingano fight was a good one she now sets up a world title shot against the beautiful but deadly Ronda Rousey.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 08:28:04 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 07:38:12 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
Razzmatazz, steroids and fan boys. Joke of a sport.

Geezer coaches out in the same gym now thanks to the owner John Kavanagh. Joke of a man eh ?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mcgeeney-an-animal-claims-fighter-mcgregor-284111.html

Joke of a post! Then again after your previous vile abuse of McKenna what do expect from a pig but a grunt.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 08:46:15 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 08:28:04 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 07:38:12 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
Razzmatazz, steroids and fan boys. Joke of a sport.

Geezer coaches out in the same gym now thanks to the owner John Kavanagh. Joke of a man eh ?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mcgeeney-an-animal-claims-fighter-mcgregor-284111.html

Joke of a post! Then again after your previous vile abuse of McKenna what do expect from a pig but a grunt.

Mc Kenna abuses and slates Dublin footballers, abuses and slates MMA and a fighter from Dublin all on Twitter, and you applaud him ??????????????? this coming from a guy who lives in Brazil, and were is the UFC's next big event were Conor is attending ?? Brazil, desperation stuff from Mc Kenna trying to get his claws in somewhere and desperate stuff from you as you clearly have zero knowledge or involvement in MMA, stick to what you know and its clear its sweet fook all
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on September 28, 2014, 08:48:04 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 08:28:04 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 07:38:12 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
Razzmatazz, steroids and fan boys. Joke of a sport.

Geezer coaches out in the same gym now thanks to the owner John Kavanagh. Joke of a man eh ?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mcgeeney-an-animal-claims-fighter-mcgregor-284111.html

Joke of a post! Then again after your previous vile abuse of McKenna what do expect from a pig but a grunt.

Are you related to Mc Kenna Dinny? Because some of the things he has written about Dublin GAA is borderline libellous Its ok to defend something where it's warranted but this guy is a gobshite

And while I think Kavanagh was way out of line posting a private phone number, part of me has no sympathy for him either.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on September 28, 2014, 08:56:14 PM

Is MMA subject to WADA drug testing?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 09:01:08 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 28, 2014, 08:56:14 PM

Is MMA subject to WADA drug testing?

Not as yet

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/8/17/5913709/the-blueprint
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 09:07:02 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 28, 2014, 08:48:04 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 08:28:04 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 07:38:12 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
Razzmatazz, steroids and fan boys. Joke of a sport.

Geezer coaches out in the same gym now thanks to the owner John Kavanagh. Joke of a man eh ?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mcgeeney-an-animal-claims-fighter-mcgregor-284111.html

Joke of a post! Then again after your previous vile abuse of McKenna what do expect from a pig but a grunt.

Are you related to Mc Kenna Dinny? Because some of the things he has written about Dublin GAA is borderline libellous Its ok to defend something where it's warranted but this guy is a gobshite

And while I think Kavanagh was way out of line posting a private phone number, part of me has no sympathy for him either.

God no he's from Athy,  he has opinions but it's never personal.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 09:40:14 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 08:46:15 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 08:28:04 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 07:38:12 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
Razzmatazz, steroids and fan boys. Joke of a sport.

Geezer coaches out in the same gym now thanks to the owner John Kavanagh. Joke of a man eh ?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mcgeeney-an-animal-claims-fighter-mcgregor-284111.html

Joke of a post! Then again after your previous vile abuse of McKenna what do expect from a pig but a grunt.

Mc Kenna abuses and slates Dublin footballers, abuses and slates MMA and a fighter from Dublin all on Twitter, and you applaud him ??????????????? this coming from a guy who lives in Brazil, and were is the UFC's next big event were Conor is attending ?? Brazil, desperation stuff from Mc Kenna trying to get his claws in somewhere and desperate stuff from you as you clearly have zero knowledge or involvement in MMA, stick to what you know and its clear its sweet fook all

Yet never makes it personal, you are a precious one. I suppose Dave Hannigan's opinion is all desperation stuff too.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/serious-questions-to-be-asked-of-ufc-on-its-21st-birthday-1.1940146?page=2 (http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/serious-questions-to-be-asked-of-ufc-on-its-21st-birthday-1.1940146?page=2)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on September 28, 2014, 09:45:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 09:07:02 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 28, 2014, 08:48:04 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 08:28:04 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 07:38:12 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
Razzmatazz, steroids and fan boys. Joke of a sport.

Geezer coaches out in the same gym now thanks to the owner John Kavanagh. Joke of a man eh ?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mcgeeney-an-animal-claims-fighter-mcgregor-284111.html

Joke of a post! Then again after your previous vile abuse of McKenna what do expect from a pig but a grunt.

Are you related to Mc Kenna Dinny? Because some of the things he has written about Dublin GAA is borderline libellous Its ok to defend something where it's warranted but this guy is a gobshite

And while I think Kavanagh was way out of line posting a private phone number, part of me has no sympathy for him either.

God no he's from Athy,  he has opinions but it's never personal.

It's always personal when it comes to Dublin GAA with him Dinny. You need to take off the Lilly glassses.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on September 28, 2014, 10:59:27 PM
Always amused at how Ewan manages to wind the Dubs up so much. He has written worse about his native county.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 28, 2014, 11:16:26 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 09:40:14 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 08:46:15 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 08:28:04 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 07:38:12 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
Razzmatazz, steroids and fan boys. Joke of a sport.

Geezer coaches out in the same gym now thanks to the owner John Kavanagh. Joke of a man eh ?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mcgeeney-an-animal-claims-fighter-mcgregor-284111.html

Joke of a post! Then again after your previous vile abuse of McKenna what do expect from a pig but a grunt.

Mc Kenna abuses and slates Dublin footballers, abuses and slates MMA and a fighter from Dublin all on Twitter, and you applaud him ??????????????? this coming from a guy who lives in Brazil, and were is the UFC's next big event were Conor is attending ?? Brazil, desperation stuff from Mc Kenna trying to get his claws in somewhere and desperate stuff from you as you clearly have zero knowledge or involvement in MMA, stick to what you know and its clear its sweet fook all

Yet never makes it personal, you are a precious one. I suppose Dave Hannigan's opinion is all desperation stuff too.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/serious-questions-to-be-asked-of-ufc-on-its-21st-birthday-1.1940146?page=2 (http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/serious-questions-to-be-asked-of-ufc-on-its-21st-birthday-1.1940146?page=2)

Don't let Iceman see that. He was raving a few weeks ago about how the UFC is a paragon of virtue compared to the NFL when it comes to dealing with domestic abusers and drug cheats.

Kavanagh publishing the phone number is disgraceful. Some of the abuse McKenna has taken on Twitter today is vile.

McGregor is special but anyone who pretends there's not a whiff of suspicion over that ko is kidding themselves. He needs to tone down the mouth a bit too (I'm aware this is a lot of what the UFC loves about him) as he's won nothing yet. If he gets a crack at Aldo, that's a completely different ballgame.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on September 29, 2014, 04:23:22 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 28, 2014, 11:16:26 PM
Don't let Iceman see that. He was raving a few weeks ago about how the UFC is a paragon of virtue compared to the NFL when it comes to dealing with domestic abusers and drug cheats.

Kavanagh publishing the phone number is disgraceful. Some of the abuse McKenna has taken on Twitter today is vile.

McGregor is special but anyone who pretends there's not a whiff of suspicion over that ko is kidding themselves. He needs to tone down the mouth a bit too (I'm aware this is a lot of what the UFC loves about him) as he's won nothing yet. If he gets a crack at Aldo, that's a completely different ballgame.

I hadn't to come across as raving about it - I think what the UFC did to protect their brand and suspend or fire fighters was OTT - just like the NFL. I was simply highlighting the trend across sports in America. All of it is harsh.

Before anyone questions the TKO - have you been punched by a professional fighter behind the ear or anywhere? Poirier has been knocked down in all of his last 3 fights. With small gloves that don't do anything to cushion the blow. At this young age he is already showing the effects of a weak chin that has taken too many big knocks. He got caught with a blow to the head that every man on this board would get knocked down by.  Nonetheless Mcgregor was lucky it had the effect it did. He fought a bit reckless and could have been caught himself. He needs to change his stance and tuck the chin a bit better if he wants to survive against a brutal striker like Aldo. I think the UFC will give him a title shot in Dublin and let him fill croker. They won't match him up against a top-tier wrestler because it will expose him. He will get aldo and Aldo will eat him alive but the UFC will get the biggest gate in their history. McGregor won't care either - he is all about the gold coin not the gold belt and I tip my hat to him - he's a prize fighter at this point in his martial arts journey.

I really enjoyed Zingano's fight. I've never seen anyone throw from a front headlock - that was great.

Great to see Dominick Cruz back - hope he gets his belt after 3 years on the sidelines.

Cowboy Cerrone is just an angry red neck and he welcomed Eddie Alvarez to the UFC. Alvarez is very blown up for his height -he should drop down a weight division and see how he does...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2014, 11:03:16 PM
Looked like his opponent took a fall
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 29, 2014, 11:18:41 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on September 29, 2014, 04:23:22 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 28, 2014, 11:16:26 PM
Don't let Iceman see that. He was raving a few weeks ago about how the UFC is a paragon of virtue compared to the NFL when it comes to dealing with domestic abusers and drug cheats.

Kavanagh publishing the phone number is disgraceful. Some of the abuse McKenna has taken on Twitter today is vile.

McGregor is special but anyone who pretends there's not a whiff of suspicion over that ko is kidding themselves. He needs to tone down the mouth a bit too (I'm aware this is a lot of what the UFC loves about him) as he's won nothing yet. If he gets a crack at Aldo, that's a completely different ballgame.

I hadn't to come across as raving about it - I think what the UFC did to protect their brand and suspend or fire fighters was OTT - just like the NFL. I was simply highlighting the trend across sports in America. All of it is harsh.

Before anyone questions the TKO - have you been punched by a professional fighter behind the ear or anywhere? Poirier has been knocked down in all of his last 3 fights. With small gloves that don't do anything to cushion the blow. At this young age he is already showing the effects of a weak chin that has taken too many big knocks. He got caught with a blow to the head that every man on this board would get knocked down by.  Nonetheless Mcgregor was lucky it had the effect it did. He fought a bit reckless and could have been caught himself. He needs to change his stance and tuck the chin a bit better if he wants to survive against a brutal striker like Aldo. I think the UFC will give him a title shot in Dublin and let him fill croker. They won't match him up against a top-tier wrestler because it will expose him. He will get aldo and Aldo will eat him alive but the UFC will get the biggest gate in their history. McGregor won't care either - he is all about the gold coin not the gold belt and I tip my hat to him - he's a prize fighter at this point in his martial arts journey.

I really enjoyed Zingano's fight. I've never seen anyone throw from a front headlock - that was great.

Great to see Dominick Cruz back - hope he gets his belt after 3 years on the sidelines.

Cowboy Cerrone is just an angry red neck and he welcomed Eddie Alvarez to the UFC. Alvarez is very blown up for his height -he should drop down a weight division and see how he does...

Cruz looked fantastic. Fair play to him after the setbacks.

Would McGregor sell out Croker?! I'd be pretty shocked.

UFC's biggest problem is that Dana is a populist mouthy p***k. He holds a borderline monopoly on big TV deals and that means a lot. UFV is a promotion with contracted fighters. The potential for conflicts of interest is enormous. The sooner MMA moves to a boxing like situation where promoters are distinct from fighters the better.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on September 30, 2014, 04:26:42 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 29, 2014, 11:18:41 PM

Cruz looked fantastic. Fair play to him after the setbacks.

Would McGregor sell out Croker?! I'd be pretty shocked.

UFC's biggest problem is that Dana is a populist mouthy p***k. He holds a borderline monopoly on big TV deals and that means a lot. UFV is a promotion with contracted fighters. The potential for conflicts of interest is enormous. The sooner MMA moves to a boxing like situation where promoters are distinct from fighters the better.

I don't see MMA moving to that model, especially with the players involved at the promotion level. As more and more elite athletes enter the sport you'll see more promotions popping up and existing promotions live Bellator continuing to succeed in the wake of the UFC's success. As much as I love boxing I don't want MMA to move to that model - too much room for corruption.

Croker wouldn't be set up for the full capacity for a fight - the upper tiers would never be opened for such a rowdy crowd but I would say he could attract the bottom stands and field level capacity at the right ticket price and with the right supporting card. All the fighters want to fight there, the UFC would have no bother bringing in a great card. UFC is all about the coin - they have 9000 capacity in the casino's in Vegas. 40,000 - 50,000 in Croke Park - that's some pay day for them.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on October 02, 2014, 11:27:08 PM
I see Bushmill's owm Norman Parke is out of his scheduled fight with Diego Sanchez in Mexico next month with a torn MCL.
Conor McGregor has offered kindly to move up a weight class and take the fight and of course the pay day. I wonder will the UFC give it to him?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on January 15, 2015, 04:19:06 PM
http://www.newstalk.com/Fine-Gael-Senator-seeks-to-ban-vile-UFC-from-coming-to-Dublin (http://www.newstalk.com/Fine-Gael-Senator-seeks-to-ban-vile-UFC-from-coming-to-Dublin)

10:18 Wednesday 14 January 2015
A Fine Gael Senator is seeking to ban the Ultimate Fighting Championship from coming to Dublin, the Herald reports.

Senator Catherine Noone described MMA as a "vile so-called sport".

Ms Noone stated: "I have written to the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport seeking his views on allowing this vile so-called sport to be given a platform and an audience here and fully believe that this event should not be licensed." She also pointed out that New York state has banned the sport.

"I don't believe we should be serving as a platform on which to publicise it both nationally and internationally, and therefore I don't think we should be hosting this event here," she said.

A spokesperson for the Transport, Tourism and Sport told the paper: "The Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport has no role in relation to the licensing of such events. Mixed Martial Arts is not recognised by the Irish Sports Council and consequently does not receive any government funding through the Irish Sports Council."

They said that the matter was an issue for Dublin City Council.

The comments come ahead of McGregor's fight in Boston this weekend. The Dubliner has been guaranteed a world title shot if he beats Dennis Siver at UFC Fight Night 59. "This fight in Boston, if [McGregor] wins, he's going to fight for the title," UFC President Dana White said.

A win for McGregor could potentially see a title fight in Dublin, possibly in Croke Park, something the Irish MMA star was hoping would happen.



Personally I find the Seanad far more 'vile' than UFC.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 15, 2015, 04:41:18 PM
Saw that during the week. Ridiculous. I'd happily support legislation against McGregor being a mouthy twat though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 16, 2015, 03:32:25 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 15, 2015, 04:41:18 PM
Saw that during the week. Ridiculous. I'd happily support legislation against McGregor being a mouthy twat though.
He is a prizefighter gallsman. After the gold coin, not the gold belt. He made more money in his first 4 UFC fights than most veterans have made in 12 fights. He talks a big game, attracts more viewers and collects more coin. I think he understands the game better than anyone else out there at the moment. He has certainly elevated the Irish MMA scene - we've had successful fighters for years but never any national media recognition. Norman Parke has been fighting in the UFC for 3 years and just got a snippet recently on the BBC....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: johnneycool on January 16, 2015, 03:45:00 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 15, 2015, 04:41:18 PM
Saw that during the week. Ridiculous. I'd happily support legislation against McGregor being a mouthy twat though.

Happened to stumble upon her being interviewed about this by Ryan Tubridy on 2FM and she admitted she couldn't be sure she's ever seen a MMA fight, she saw something one time on TV and it was 'barbaric'.
She was basing her assumptions on an article some very good friend of a journalist who'd written about their experiences at a fight in Vegas or somewhere.

A total numpty.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 16, 2015, 03:45:51 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on January 16, 2015, 03:32:25 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 15, 2015, 04:41:18 PM
Saw that during the week. Ridiculous. I'd happily support legislation against McGregor being a mouthy twat though.
He is a prizefighter gallsman. After the gold coin, not the gold belt. He made more money in his first 4 UFC fights than most veterans have made in 12 fights. He talks a big game, attracts more viewers and collects more coin. I think he understands the game better than anyone else out there at the moment. He has certainly elevated the Irish MMA scene - we've had successful fighters for years but never any national media recognition. Norman Parke has been fighting in the UFC for 3 years and just got a snippet recently on the BBC....

I get that absolutely, but his spouting nonsense about being a global star annoys me.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on January 16, 2015, 09:29:51 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on January 16, 2015, 03:32:25 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 15, 2015, 04:41:18 PM
Saw that during the week. Ridiculous. I'd happily support legislation against McGregor being a mouthy twat though.
He is a prizefighter gallsman. After the gold coin, not the gold belt. He made more money in his first 4 UFC fights than most veterans have made in 12 fights. He talks a big game, attracts more viewers and collects more coin. I think he understands the game better than anyone else out there at the moment. He has certainly elevated the Irish MMA scene - we've had successful fighters for years but never any national media recognition. Norman Parke has been fighting in the UFC for 3 years and just got a snippet recently on the BBC....

Never heard of him.

The first thing he should do is change his name. It is so....eh John Major.

He needs an attention seeking name like Bolt, but more Irish sounding like Savage Kilwarrior or Groundskeeper Séamus.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: tiempo on January 16, 2015, 09:36:28 PM
Don't get UFC myself. The only difference between UFC and dog fighting is these guys are giving their consent. What's most irritating of all though is the masses of people that watch it who have some sort of deranged blood lust to see two guys do serious damage to each other and yet couldn't punch their way through a wet paper bag.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 16, 2015, 09:37:02 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 16, 2015, 09:29:51 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on January 16, 2015, 03:32:25 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 15, 2015, 04:41:18 PM
Saw that during the week. Ridiculous. I'd happily support legislation against McGregor being a mouthy twat though.
He is a prizefighter gallsman. After the gold coin, not the gold belt. He made more money in his first 4 UFC fights than most veterans have made in 12 fights. He talks a big game, attracts more viewers and collects more coin. I think he understands the game better than anyone else out there at the moment. He has certainly elevated the Irish MMA scene - we've had successful fighters for years but never any national media recognition. Norman Parke has been fighting in the UFC for 3 years and just got a snippet recently on the BBC....

Never heard of him.

The first thing he should do is change his name. It is so....eh John Major.

He needs an attention seeking name like Bolt, but more Irish sounding like Savage Kilwarrior or Groundskeeper Séamus.
He's a Bushmills man - I think he's happy with the name ha good Hun.
He is a decent fella - strong Judo and grappling, great coach behind him who I know personally. He just doesn't get much exposure for two reasons I believe:
His accent is atrocious
He comes across a bit stupid in interviews (which he isn't but he sounds like he is).....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 16, 2015, 09:38:06 PM
Quote from: tiempo on January 16, 2015, 09:36:28 PM
Don't get UFC myself. The only difference between UFC and dog fighting is these guys are giving their consent. What's most irritating of all though is the masses of people that watch it who have some sort of deranged blood lust to see two guys do serious damage to each other and yet couldn't punch their way through a wet paper bag.
Have you studied any martial arts? Or do enjoy any other combat sports? It's a bit of a sweeping statement....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on January 16, 2015, 09:43:57 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on January 16, 2015, 09:38:06 PM
Quote from: tiempo on January 16, 2015, 09:36:28 PM
Don't get UFC myself. The only difference between UFC and dog fighting is these guys are giving their consent. What's most irritating of all though is the masses of people that watch it who have some sort of deranged blood lust to see two guys do serious damage to each other and yet couldn't punch their way through a wet paper bag.
Have you studied any martial arts? Or do enjoy any other combat sports? It's a bit of a sweeping statement....

I haven't watched much myself.  Mcgregor has perked my interest.  Heard Aldo is the main man between Mcgregor and a world title. Watched a compilation of Aldo knockouts on YouTube.  Christ, one of those knees to the head could do some real damage. High octane stuff alright, though not keen on all the hugging.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 16, 2015, 09:52:17 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 16, 2015, 09:43:57 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on January 16, 2015, 09:38:06 PM
Quote from: tiempo on January 16, 2015, 09:36:28 PM
Don't get UFC myself. The only difference between UFC and dog fighting is these guys are giving their consent. What's most irritating of all though is the masses of people that watch it who have some sort of deranged blood lust to see two guys do serious damage to each other and yet couldn't punch their way through a wet paper bag.
Have you studied any martial arts? Or do enjoy any other combat sports? It's a bit of a sweeping statement....

I haven't watched much myself.  Mcgregor has perked my interest.  Heard Aldo is the main man between Mcgregor and a world title. Watched a compilation of Aldo knockouts on YouTube.  Christ, one of those knees to the head could do some real damage. High octane stuff alright, though not keen on all the hugging.
I love the sport. It's pure combat. I enjoy standup wars and I enjoy the technical grappling matches on the ground. Aldo is the champ for a reason. I'm not sure McGregor has what it takes to beat him but I don't know if he cares. If he get's his title shot and can put 50,000 bums on seats in Croke Park and get his slice of the pie he'll be a rich man.
There are some great old fights on youtube. Lookup submission of the year and the like and see what you think. There are also a load of great clubs and shows all over Ireland.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: tiempo on January 17, 2015, 12:04:21 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on January 16, 2015, 09:38:06 PM
Quote from: tiempo on January 16, 2015, 09:36:28 PM
Don't get UFC myself. The only difference between UFC and dog fighting is these guys are giving their consent. What's most irritating of all though is the masses of people that watch it who have some sort of deranged blood lust to see two guys do serious damage to each other and yet couldn't punch their way through a wet paper bag.
Have you studied any martial arts? Or do enjoy any other combat sports? It's a bit of a sweeping statement....

No I haven't studied any martial arts. I appreciate the technicality, skill and commitment involved within martial arts and no doubt the discipline and respect it provides within that lifestyle too. MMA/UFC to me is a bit more focused on the brutal volient aspect of sport and the desire to "end" someone. The countless reams of online clips of one punch knockouts, knees to the head, blood spattered faces adds to the point I made before. Combat sports in general are not my cup of tea, I used to find boxing passable but its corrupt and so I can't be arsed with it.

Definitley the stereotypical MMA fans as I see it are a turn off. I know the fighers aren't fully responsible for the marketing or the morons who lust for it while being whimps themselves. Certainly the name UFC and the general appearance of the sport is like something from a Mortal Kombat computer game. Decent on a 32-bit Mega Drive, shite in real life when someone's just had their hole burst open with the point of someone's elbow and the like.

The fighters themselves are no doubt signing all sorts of legal waivers with regards to their current and future health, the debate surrounding concussion in American Football, Rugby and Gaelic Games is moving with the times and there is an appetite to put players wellbeing at the forefront of research which you would hope will inform the next series of reforms within games to try and avoid injuries that lead to debilitating health conditions.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on January 17, 2015, 12:35:15 AM
Quote from: tiempo on January 17, 2015, 12:04:21 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on January 16, 2015, 09:38:06 PM
Quote from: tiempo on January 16, 2015, 09:36:28 PM
Don't get UFC myself. The only difference between UFC and dog fighting is these guys are giving their consent. What's most irritating of all though is the masses of people that watch it who have some sort of deranged blood lust to see two guys do serious damage to each other and yet couldn't punch their way through a wet paper bag.
Have you studied any martial arts? Or do enjoy any other combat sports? It's a bit of a sweeping statement....

No I haven't studied any martial arts. I appreciate the technicality, skill and commitment involved within martial arts and no doubt the discipline and respect it provides within that lifestyle too. MMA/UFC to me is a bit more focused on the brutal volient aspect of sport and the desire to "end" someone. The countless reams of online clips of one punch knockouts, knees to the head, blood spattered faces adds to the point I made before. Combat sports in general are not my cup of tea, I used to find boxing passable but its corrupt and so I can't be arsed with it.

Definitley the stereotypical MMA fans as I see it are a turn off. I know the fighers aren't fully responsible for the marketing or the morons who lust for it while being whimps themselves. Certainly the name UFC and the general appearance of the sport is like something from a Mortal Kombat computer game. Decent on a 32-bit Mega Drive, shite in real life when someone's just had their hole burst open with the point of someone's elbow and the like.

The fighters themselves are no doubt signing all sorts of legal waivers with regards to their current and future health, the debate surrounding concussion in American Football, Rugby and Gaelic Games is moving with the times and there is an appetite to put players wellbeing at the forefront of research which you would hope will inform the next series of reforms within games to try and avoid injuries that lead to debilitating health conditions.

Crazy generalisation. The Mega Drive was a 16-bit console.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: trileacman on January 17, 2015, 01:24:09 AM
Anyone else find McGregor to be a mouthy little ****? I mean do the people who think McIlroy is a smug p***k not think McGregor takes it to a level further again?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 17, 2015, 01:37:20 AM
Quote from: trileacman on January 17, 2015, 01:24:09 AM
Anyone else find McGregor to be a mouthy little ****? I mean do the people who think McIlroy is a smug p***k not think McGregor takes it to a level further again?

Agreed. He's a gobshite who gets on like he's Mayweather with. His shtick is lapped up by the American crowds too. Like all UFC stars save the very, very best, he's completely dependent on Dana - it's the company who makes the really big bucks.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on January 17, 2015, 01:59:43 AM
Dana's going to end up pretty dependant on McGregor if his popularity keeps growing at this rate.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 17, 2015, 12:18:37 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 17, 2015, 01:59:43 AM
Dana's going to end up pretty dependant on McGregor if his popularity keeps growing at this rate.

I don't buy that. For all the unfounded nonsense about "fastest growing sport in the world", PPV rates are down just like in boxing (no idea how Jones-DC went in terms of buys but fight was shit). One loss (I think Aldo and a few others would annihilate him) will kill the novelty stateside.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 17, 2015, 03:26:53 PM
UFC are the victims of their own success. They signed that deal with FOX and as a result - there's way too many shows per year now - diluting the "big time" feel of events.

Injuries to their main fighters haven't helped either.

The signing of Phil Brooks (CM Punk) to the organization reeks of desperation.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 17, 2015, 06:01:59 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 17, 2015, 03:26:53 PM
UFC are the victims of their own success. They signed that deal with FOX and as a result - there's way too many shows per year now - diluting the "big time" feel of events.

Injuries to their main fighters haven't helped either.

The signing of Phil Brooks (CM Punk) to the organization reeks of desperation.

Definitely an overload. Jones-DC was originally meant to have a Rousey fight on the undercard. Rousey is more than capable of headlining on her own so they moved her and didn't bother trying to repaved it with another title fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 17, 2015, 06:44:12 PM
Quote from: trileacman on January 17, 2015, 01:24:09 AM
Anyone else find McGregor to be a mouthy little ****? I mean do the people who think McIlroy is a smug p***k not think McGregor takes it to a level further again?

All part of the show don't you think? Don't think he would be as popular if he wasn't as brash or even as good a fighter if you took it away.  I actually don't mind it when it comes to fighters, surely some need this to get over fear.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 17, 2015, 07:44:45 PM
How does having a big mouth make you a better fighter?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on January 17, 2015, 09:07:07 PM
MMA athletes are unreal specimens? Yes
Do I admire them? Yes
Is UFC the pinnacle of their Sport? Yes
Do they promote top notch fighters? Yes
Would they rather a premium ticket sales fight than the a fight between the best fighters? Yes
Is ther real fights in UFC? yes 99%
Are they a professional based money making machine? Yes
Is making money on the product the be all/end all? Yes
Has that produced the modern day WWE? Story lines? Charismatic Personalities? YES
Did McGregors last opponent take a fall? Absolutely
Is this because there is a multi-million dolla year and 2 Croker fights in the man? yes
Do I blame Dana White for pursuing this? No
Will I have the Green goggles on tomorrow night watch McGregor? Yes (free stream tho -tight ass like me)

I love watching it but i know the background of the sport, just like the dawning of pro-wrestling in US spawning from Carnival fights the UFC has morphed into something similar where money making on audiences has become the key reason for any fight. This has led to the McGregors of the world getting fast-tracked to the top. Chael Sonnen was never the best fighter but he got the big fights because of his mouth and sold lots of PPVs.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BenDover on January 17, 2015, 09:33:14 PM
Save me the googling what time is that at?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 17, 2015, 09:42:13 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 17, 2015, 07:44:45 PM
How does having a big mouth make you a better fighter?

If he wasn't as cocky he wouldn't have the same confidence surely, maybe I'm wrong. Thats the way i see it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GJL on January 17, 2015, 10:27:30 PM
f**k it I like him. You have to take it for what it is, it is all a big show with some right brutal fighting. I enjoy it and if it comes to Dublin I'll go and watch the 'show'. 👊
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on January 19, 2015, 01:42:07 AM
I take it all back, Conor's a nice skin, lets go!!!


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Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on January 19, 2015, 02:42:12 AM
Seems like McGregor has huge support in the crowd, even in Vegas. Hopefully he does the job tonight because win or lose everyone wants to see him fight Aldo.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on January 19, 2015, 02:50:58 AM
Is it not in Boston?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 19, 2015, 02:53:55 AM
That was a strange decision? Americans not happy!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on January 19, 2015, 02:54:08 AM
And thats why that shit is rigged
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 19, 2015, 02:54:42 AM
 ;D
thats the worst i ever seen
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on January 19, 2015, 02:58:22 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on January 19, 2015, 02:50:58 AM
Is it not in Boston?

Ahh my mistake, I was confusing it with what White said about the potential Aldo fight (it would definitely be in Vegas he said).
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 19, 2015, 03:13:43 AM
Great to see the Irish lads cheering for our boy! Come on Stormin Norman
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 19, 2015, 03:37:36 AM
Feck this, Norman robbed as well
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 19, 2015, 05:32:33 AM
well - he backed up his talk tonight - very impressive.

He won't be getting it that easy again
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ballinaman on January 19, 2015, 10:05:32 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 19, 2015, 05:32:33 AM
well - he backed up his talk tonight - very impressive.

He won't be getting it that easy again
WWF stuff hopping over the cage at the end..embarrassing stuff!
Siver the patsy as expected..
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: annapr on January 19, 2015, 01:55:26 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 19, 2015, 10:05:32 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 19, 2015, 05:32:33 AM
well - he backed up his talk tonight - very impressive.

He won't be getting it that easy again
WWF stuff hopping over the cage at the end..embarrassing stuff!
Siver the patsy as expected..
He's a gobsh!te, its a sport for gobsh!tes watched mostly by gobsh!tes. He does seem to be quite good a beating people up though and he is making a lot of money so fair play to him I suppose.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on January 19, 2015, 03:14:30 PM
Quote from: annapr on January 19, 2015, 01:55:26 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 19, 2015, 10:05:32 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 19, 2015, 05:32:33 AM
well - he backed up his talk tonight - very impressive.

He won't be getting it that easy again
WWF stuff hopping over the cage at the end..embarrassing stuff!
Siver the patsy as expected..
He's a gobsh!te, its a sport for gobsh!tes watched mostly by gobsh!tes. He does seem to be quite good a beating people up though and he is making a lot of money so fair play to him I suppose.

That's it. The more hype he generates and the more he plays on his Irishness the more money he gets. Can't blame the lad to be fair and he does look to be in good condition.

In terms of the fight it didn't look as rigged as the last one but who's to say. By all accounts Aldo is a serious operator so the true test of his mouth and all the talk will be in Vegas. I'm actually quite looking forward to it as I think it'll be an intriguing fight... He will be superstar level if he becomes the Champ though which is worrying because he talks an unbelievable amount of shite!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 19, 2015, 04:42:27 PM
Good night of fights.
Cathal Pendred's fight was close. They matched eachother nearly strike for strike and the judges were swayed by the reaction of the crowd. I had it a draw but it could be argued either way.
Norman Parke looked very ordinary. His striking isn't crisp, he doesn't have the power and he isn't top 10 material and never will be. At the weigh-ins he got a very frosty reception from the real Irish in attendance but he probably didn't do himself any favours with his Ulster flag and OWC comments.....
McGregor looked great - he put on a real exhibition and backed up the hype - I'm excited for the title fight and should make it to Vega in May.

Some fights are awkward and ugly. We've seen them all on the street. In the cage is no different -some lad's styles just clash and it isn't nice to watch. It happens in boxing and all combat sports. It happens in GAA too. If you don't like it don't watch and we'll leave your opinions where they belong on the WWE thread
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on January 19, 2015, 04:43:47 PM
Quote from: screenexile on January 19, 2015, 03:14:30 PM
Quote from: annapr on January 19, 2015, 01:55:26 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 19, 2015, 10:05:32 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 19, 2015, 05:32:33 AM
well - he backed up his talk tonight - very impressive.

He won't be getting it that easy again
WWF stuff hopping over the cage at the end..embarrassing stuff!
Siver the patsy as expected..
He's a gobsh!te, its a sport for gobsh!tes watched mostly by gobsh!tes. He does seem to be quite good a beating people up though and he is making a lot of money so fair play to him I suppose.

That's it. The more hype he generates and the more he plays on his Irishness the more money he gets. Can't blame the lad to be fair and he does look to be in good condition.

In terms of the fight it didn't look as rigged as the last one but who's to say. By all accounts Aldo is a serious operator so the true test of his mouth and all the talk will be in Vegas. I'm actually quite looking forward to it as I think it'll be an intriguing fight... He will be superstar level if he becomes the Champ though which is worrying because he talks an unbelievable amount of shite!

There are some seriously paranoid ideas on this forum. The way some of ye try to group MMA fans together to make yourselves feel better only makes ye look stupid.

Dominant performance by McGregor. Used his length very well and got out of takedowns effortlessly. Going out to Aldo was a great way of promoting the fight, McGregor is no dummy. He is box office and I certainly will be tuning in for the Aldo fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 19, 2015, 05:08:42 PM
Iceman - haven't seen the Pendred fight (and from the reports, I don't think I want to) but none of the three Sherdog scorers gave him so much as a round. I dunno if it's because of some sort of agreement with SBG or because he's McGregor's mate that he keeps getting fights, but he doesn't belong at that level.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 19, 2015, 05:37:50 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 19, 2015, 05:08:42 PM
Iceman - haven't seen the Pendred fight (and from the reports, I don't think I want to) but none of the three Sherdog scorers gave him so much as a round. I dunno if it's because of some sort of agreement with SBG or because he's McGregor's mate that he keeps getting fights, but he doesn't belong at that level.
Yeah not sure Gallsman. There is always the need for journeymen on the roster. Pendred is being given every chance to prove himself but falls short every time. He needs a few losses on his record and they'll cut him. In the meantime he will be thrown in with a few new up and comers. He was supposed to lose his fight and the judges messed it up. I think Dana was hoping to get rid of him if you watch the post fight scrum afterwards. These judges are not affiliated with the UFC and mess up regularly with no accountability. I agree he doesn't belong in the UFC on his performances so far. Though he was successful in smaller promotions. He's stuck somewhere in-between.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on January 20, 2015, 09:54:31 AM
Nice story!

http://www.joe.ie/sport/pics-how-the-ufc-and-conor-mcgregor-treated-a-young-irish-cancer-sufferer-like-a-king-in-boston/481802
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GJL on January 20, 2015, 01:34:14 PM
Quote from: screenexile on January 20, 2015, 09:54:31 AM
Nice story!

http://www.joe.ie/sport/pics-how-the-ufc-and-conor-mcgregor-treated-a-young-irish-cancer-sufferer-like-a-king-in-boston/481802
Very good.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 20, 2015, 09:03:09 AM
Is there any way to watch the McGregor documentary on RTE player in the north?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 31, 2015, 07:29:07 PM
McGregor is well and truly in Aldo's head

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Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on March 31, 2015, 07:49:16 PM
Where did yer man get the Irish jersey without the 3 logo.
I thought they were like hens teeth.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 31, 2015, 08:12:30 PM
The lads chanting "easy, easy, easy" evidently don't have a clue about MMA.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: andoireabu on March 31, 2015, 09:01:11 PM
Is McGregors idea to annoy Aldo that much that come fight night he comes out with more aggression than brains and McGregor could catch him off guard?  Or is it all a show from both of them to maximise the payday?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 31, 2015, 09:03:56 PM
From what I hear (I'm stuck in college), a lot of Irish mma fans let themselves down badly today.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on March 31, 2015, 09:14:31 PM
Quote from: gallsman on March 31, 2015, 09:03:56 PM
From what I hear (I'm stuck in college), a lot of Irish mma fans let themselves down badly today.

They will be taking their lead from Mcgregor.  Have never seen a challenger show such a lack of respect for a champion.

The buildup has pretty much reached saturation point and the fight isn't until July
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 31, 2015, 09:16:57 PM
Quote from: gallsman on March 31, 2015, 09:03:56 PM
From what I hear (I'm stuck in college), a lot of Irish mma fans let themselves down badly today.

Some of the questions / comments towards Aldo where just ridiculous. My personal favourite was "Jose, where does your forehead begin?" I think they were allowed because Dana White didn't really quite understand what they were saying.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 31, 2015, 10:56:46 PM
Just watched the full thing. Mortifying.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 31, 2015, 11:48:29 PM
Mostly knackers at the press conference - I don't think a true reflection of Irish MMA in fairness. But it's what the world sees and the stereotypes continue to be fed....
From what I can tell CMG likes to bait his opponents into a war. All his flashy kicks and footwork are to draw the opponent on to him where he can counter and use some great range awareness and technique to put them away. I don't know if Aldo will fall for it but it all makes for must see TV.
I have a mate who went to the press conference in NY and he said Aldo got the same treatment, to the point where Robbie Lawler told the crowd to give the champ some respect.

I think CMG has a legitimate chance to win. He hits harder than most if not all the featherweights. If he can avoid a grappling match and use his range and take advantage of his southpaw stance he can beat Aldo on the feet. Win or lose he's in for a massive pay day tied to the PPV. He will make more money than Aldo and probably the biggest purse in MMA history. It's all about the gold I said before. Not the gold belt but the gold coin....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 01, 2015, 12:34:57 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 31, 2015, 11:48:29 PM
Mostly knackers at the press conference - I don't think a true reflection of Irish MMA in fairness. But it's what the world sees and the stereotypes continue to be fed....
From what I can tell CMG likes to bait his opponents into a war. All his flashy kicks and footwork are to draw the opponent on to him where he can counter and use some great range awareness and technique to put them away. I don't know if Aldo will fall for it but it all makes for must see TV.
I have a mate who went to the press conference in NY and he said Aldo got the same treatment, to the point where Robbie Lawler told the crowd to give the champ some respect.

I think CMG has a legitimate chance to win. He hits harder than most if not all the featherweights. If he can avoid a grappling match and use his range and take advantage of his southpaw stance he can beat Aldo on the feet. Win or lose he's in for a massive pay day tied to the PPV. He will make more money than Aldo and probably the biggest purse in MMA history. It's all about the gold I said before. Not the gold belt but the gold coin....

This fight or down the line?! He'll not touch anything like the kind of money Lesnar in his day, Jones or Silva would make. McGregor takes whatever UFC and Dana pay him. He was plucked from (relative) obscurity, so I don't imagine his contract is all that big.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 01, 2015, 12:49:16 AM
Or Rousey while I think of it. Jones and her are their two superstars at the minute.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 01, 2015, 01:03:47 AM
He made a purse of $180K declared earnings in his fight with Brandao. He made close to a million for the Dennis Siver fight.
He said he'll make upwards of $7million for this fight. If it breaks PPV records and I think it will then he should make the biggest money we've seen in MMA in one fight.
Lesnar was 4/5 years ago remember. Jones is pulling $400K per fight.
We'll see...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 01, 2015, 07:11:30 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on April 01, 2015, 01:03:47 AM
He made a purse of $180K declared earnings in his fight with Brandao. He made close to a million for the Dennis Siver fight.
He said he'll make upwards of $7million for this fight. If it breaks PPV records and I think it will then he should make the biggest money we've seen in MMA in one fight.
Lesnar was 4/5 years ago remember. Jones is pulling $400K per fight.
We'll see...

Where did you hear he got a million for the Siver fight?! It wasn't even on ppv in the states!! $7m in this fight?! My absolute hole!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on April 01, 2015, 11:11:56 AM
Main Card (FOX Sports 1)
Conor McGregor ($85,000 + $85,000 = $170,000) def. Dennis Siver ($39,000)

Where does the rest of his earnings from the fight come from to make up a Million?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on April 01, 2015, 02:00:24 PM
Talk about absolutely nailing it. . . this is excellent!

Quotehttp://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/04/01/conor-mcgregor-burns-down-jose-aldos-house-as-mind-games-continue/

Conor McGregor Burns Down Jose Aldo's House As Mind Games Continue


CONOR MCGREGOR stepped up his mind games with upcoming opponent Jose Aldo as their UFC press tour rolled into Dublin yesterday.

After McGregor whipped his expectant audience into a frenzy as he took to the stage shared with defending champion Aldo and head of the UFC Dana White, he motioned to someone to 'press play'.

Knowing Aldo was going to be in Dublin for yesterday's press conference, the video shown at the press conference revealed McGregor had taken the red eye to Rio late Monday night and burned down Aldo's house with his wife and daughter still in it.


"I will consume you like the affordable biscuit you are," McGregor said as he jumped on the table, then taking the time to produce a picture of Aldo's wife and subsequently urinating on it. This was disrupted however by an over eager fan who attempted to get McGregor to urinate on him.

Laughing maniacally at this point to raucous applause and chants, McGregor added "she's dead Jose, upon your return to your flavela a beaten man, you will sleep alone like some sort of unlovable cucumber that cannot find itself a suitable salad".

While the murder of Aldo's wife and child certainly heightens the tension around the fight, many have speculated that McGregor may now be edging the mind games.

"Ha ha, what will he do next? You just don't know with this guy, he's all class. He has the warrior spirit and I think this has frightened Aldo and rattled him," explained UFC expert Josh Pleasant.

McGregor fans in crowd added to the tension as they bellowed chants of 'your family's dead' resulting in Aldo breaking down in tears.
Our sources confirm Aldo will still fight McGregor but has taken several days off from training in order to bury and mourn his family.

"What can I say, Conor is box office baby," explained Dana White as he shrugged off questions about McGregor's actions.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 01, 2015, 02:05:02 PM
QuoteHe said he'll make upwards of $7million for this fight.

The important part
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 01, 2015, 03:31:25 PM
That's the best WWN I've seen in ages!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 01, 2015, 03:44:47 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on April 01, 2015, 11:11:56 AM
Main Card (FOX Sports 1)
Conor McGregor ($85,000 + $85,000 = $170,000) def. Dennis Siver ($39,000)

Where does the rest of his earnings from the fight come from to make up a Million?
those are the declared payouts from a private company. all the fighters will hint at earning much more, especially the "needle movers", Remember Conor has a Reebok sponsorship - one of only 6 UFC fighters to have. He also has a load of other sponsors. When asked about the Aldo fight (where he says he will earn $7million) he said it will be more than triple what he earned for the Siver fight. Not hard to do the Math and conservatively say he earned a million.....
It doesn't matter either way - the man is minted and making a great life for himself
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on April 01, 2015, 03:55:19 PM
McGregor is making himself, Aldo and White a lot money. That makes everyone forgive a lot. Can't say it hasn't worked, I'm certainly looking forward to the fight. If McGregor wins he'll be cemented as one of the biggest stars the UFC has ever seen. Love, love, love fighters with personality, be it boxing, MMA or even wrestling. Doesn't matter if they play the hero or villain.

When you have skill and personality together in one package that's when great fights happen.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 01, 2015, 04:16:17 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on April 01, 2015, 03:44:47 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on April 01, 2015, 11:11:56 AM
Main Card (FOX Sports 1)
Conor McGregor ($85,000 + $85,000 = $170,000) def. Dennis Siver ($39,000)

Where does the rest of his earnings from the fight come from to make up a Million?
those are the declared payouts from a private company. all the fighters will hint at earning much more, especially the "needle movers", Remember Conor has a Reebok sponsorship - one of only 6 UFC fighters to have. He also has a load of other sponsors. When asked about the Aldo fight (where he says he will earn $7million) he said it will be more than triple what he earned for the Siver fight. Not hard to do the Math and conservatively say he earned a million.....
It doesn't matter either way - the man is minted and making a great life for himself

Well no, it matters a lot. One figure is his income, the rest is ancillary income. Whatever he makes off the back of sponsorships or endorsements, he's made through his mouth and his personality - he doesn't make it "from the fight". Even if using your bizarre logic, I'm not sure how 3 x "conservatively more than $1m" = $7m. When you say he has "loads of other sponsors", these are not sponsors to tune of millions of dollars a year, much like I suspect Reebok is not, although it will obviously still be significant. Nike don't appear to think UFC is the opportunity they once did, having walked away from their Jones contract. You think Dethrone (probably his second most prominent sponsor?) could pay anything resembling the figures you're suggesting?

Despite what Conor McGregor might want you to believe, he does not make anything resembling Floyd Mayweather money. Or Carl Froch money. Or even Amir Khan money. If you believe he is going to get paid $7m for this fight, you are delusional. McGregor has fought nobody even close to Aldo's level. For him to earn $7m when you have Jon Jones (fighting, and beating, everyone they put in front of him) earning half a million or less would be absolute madness.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 01, 2015, 05:34:03 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 01, 2015, 04:16:17 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on April 01, 2015, 03:44:47 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on April 01, 2015, 11:11:56 AM
Main Card (FOX Sports 1)
Conor McGregor ($85,000 + $85,000 = $170,000) def. Dennis Siver ($39,000)

Where does the rest of his earnings from the fight come from to make up a Million?
those are the declared payouts from a private company. all the fighters will hint at earning much more, especially the "needle movers", Remember Conor has a Reebok sponsorship - one of only 6 UFC fighters to have. He also has a load of other sponsors. When asked about the Aldo fight (where he says he will earn $7million) he said it will be more than triple what he earned for the Siver fight. Not hard to do the Math and conservatively say he earned a million.....
It doesn't matter either way - the man is minted and making a great life for himself

Well no, it matters a lot. One figure is his income, the rest is ancillary income. Whatever he makes off the back of sponsorships or endorsements, he's made through his mouth and his personality - he doesn't make it "from the fight". Even if using your bizarre logic, I'm not sure how 3 x "conservatively more than $1m" = $7m. When you say he has "loads of other sponsors", these are not sponsors to tune of millions of dollars a year, much like I suspect Reebok is not, although it will obviously still be significant. Nike don't appear to think UFC is the opportunity they once did, having walked away from their Jones contract. You think Dethrone (probably his second most prominent sponsor?) could pay anything resembling the figures you're suggesting?

Despite what Conor McGregor might want you to believe, he does not make anything resembling Floyd Mayweather money. Or Carl Froch money. Or even Amir Khan money. If you believe he is going to get paid $7m for this fight, you are delusional. McGregor has fought nobody even close to Aldo's level. For him to earn $7m when you have Jon Jones (fighting, and beating, everyone they put in front of him) earning half a million or less would be absolute madness.

Reebok have an exclusive deal with the UFC. So whether Nike want to or not they are boxed out of sponsoring its fighters in any official capacity.
I don't know why you are getting all twisty because I repeated what CMG said. $7 million for this fight, A third of that for the Siver fight. I was being conservative by saying a million but if it makes you happier $2,333,333....
FMW made $32 million as a purse in his last fight. For the fight with Pacman he'll get a guaranteed purse of $250million with another $50million from the PPV bucket. Thats $300million. McGregor - if he earns $7million is not earning anywhere near $300million or anywhere close to FMW money  - I never suggested he was. Again you're twisting with me for whatever reason you're harboring...

The Mcgreogr Aldo PPV should do 1.3 million buys. McGregor is tied to the PPV buys. If FMW vrs Pacman does 2.4 million buys as expected both fighters pocket $50million each on top of their purses. And the promotions still make money.  I don't think it's unrealistic to assume that McGreogr could make $7million from 1.3 million buys if $50million is available to one half of the fight when the buys are at 2.4 million....

If you want to keep twisting and poking holes in my posts go ahead - knock yourself out - save me the effort :P
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 01, 2015, 05:51:25 PM
Again your numbers are all over the shop. The numbers you're quoting for Mayweather are for the fight. He is not going to make $300m.

The reason I'm getting "twisty" about this is because ill considered hyperbole makes a complete mockery of things. McGregor is a star and undeniably charismatic but it's people who accept everything he says as gospel that end up carrying on like morons and screaming abuse at his opponents in press conferences.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: CiKe on April 01, 2015, 05:56:11 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 01, 2015, 05:51:25 PM
Again your numbers are all over the shop. The numbers you're quoting for Mayweather are for the fight. He is not going to make $300m.

The reason I'm getting "twisty" about this is because I'll considered hyperbole makes a complete mockery of things. McGregor is a star and undeniably charismatic but it's people who accept everything he says as gospel that end up carrying on like morons and screaming abuse at his opponents in press conferences.

In fairness Iceman hardly comes across like one of those gobshites. You might be guilty of a bit of hyperbole there yourself with those generalizations...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 01, 2015, 06:24:29 PM
I stand corrected. The shared purse for the fight is $300million with a 60:40 split. So FMW makes $180million just from the fight.
McGregor makes $7million he says. I'd take either money but they are not even close to each other.

There is no denying I like McGregor's skill-set. I like how he shakes things up. I like how he has put Irish MMA on the map at long last. I'm not fond of his insults. I have many friends who still compete and used to compete in Irish MMA and CMG crossed the line numerous times with one of them to which I still take offense. I've never met him in person but I have his autograph from one of the lads at SBG where he trains.

I believe your comments stem from other threads where your knickers are still twisted. I'll leave you to untie them in your own time.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bennydorano on April 02, 2015, 11:26:33 PM
Only recently have taken an interest in this melarkey (mainly due to the Notorious 'documentary' on RTE2), McGregor's defo got a bit of the razzmatazz about him & looks like has the skills to pay the bills, but is Aldo a big step up? I see he is 4/6 fav & mcgregor 6/5, is McGregor going to geta Ricky Hatton / Prince Naseem spanking from a proper World Champion?

The media day in Dublin was a bit mental, but funny.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 03, 2015, 12:04:37 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 02, 2015, 11:26:33 PM
Only recently have taken an interest in this melarkey (mainly due to the Notorious 'documentary' on RTE2), McGregor's defo got a bit of the razzmatazz about him & looks like has the skills to pay the bills, but is Aldo a big step up? I see he is 4/6 fav & mcgregor 6/5, is McGregor going to geta Ricky Hatton / Prince Naseem spanking from a proper World Champion?

The media day in Dublin was a bit mental, but funny.

Aldo is unbeaten in ten years, is the only featherweight champion in UFC history and kicks like an absolute mule. He's beaten every other contender in the division. McGregor has fought nobody that comes remotely close to his level. He can strike and has knockout power in both his fists and his legs and is a black belt in jiu jitsu. McGregor has range and probably speed on him. Very, very difficult to call.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BarryBreensBandage on April 03, 2015, 12:57:35 AM
Quote from: gallsman on April 03, 2015, 12:04:37 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 02, 2015, 11:26:33 PM
Only recently have taken an interest in this melarkey (mainly due to the Notorious 'documentary' on RTE2), McGregor's defo got a bit of the razzmatazz about him & looks like has the skills to pay the bills, but is Aldo a big step up? I see he is 4/6 fav & mcgregor 6/5, is McGregor going to geta Ricky Hatton / Prince Naseem spanking from a proper World Champion?

The media day in Dublin was a bit mental, but funny.

Aldo is unbeaten in ten years, is the only featherweight champion in UFC history and kicks like an absolute mule. He's beaten every other contender in the division. McGregor has fought nobody that comes remotely close to his level. He can strike and has knockout power in both his fists and his legs and is a black belt in jiu jitsu. McGregor has range and probably speed on him. Very, very difficult to call.

McGregor reminds me of Fergus out of Braveheart.
There's a madness in his eyes, especially off camera - all form and statistics point to Aldo, but it is that look that McGregor sometimes gives that makes me think he has more than a chance.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on April 03, 2015, 05:34:13 AM
Aldo is going to wipe the floor with him,  he is way better than anyone McGregor has faced and I think he is going to wipe the floor with McGregor!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Bensars on April 03, 2015, 07:20:52 AM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on April 03, 2015, 12:57:35 AM
Quote from: gallsman on April 03, 2015, 12:04:37 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 02, 2015, 11:26:33 PM
Only recently have taken an interest in this melarkey (mainly due to the Notorious 'documentary' on RTE2), McGregor's defo got a bit of the razzmatazz about him & looks like has the skills to pay the bills, but is Aldo a big step up? I see he is 4/6 fav & mcgregor 6/5, is McGregor going to geta Ricky Hatton / Prince Naseem spanking from a proper World Champion?

The media day in Dublin was a bit mental, but funny.

Aldo is unbeaten in ten years, is the only featherweight champion in UFC history and kicks like an absolute mule. He's beaten every other contender in the division. McGregor has fought nobody that comes remotely close to his level. He can strike and has knockout power in both his fists and his legs and is a black belt in jiu jitsu. McGregor has range and probably speed on him. Very, very difficult to call.

McGregor reminds me of Fergus out of Braveheart.
There's a madness in his eyes, especially off camera - all form and statistics point to Aldo, but it is that look that McGregor sometimes gives that makes me think he has more than a chance.

You do realise that one of them is an actor and the other..... .... Oh wait !....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 03, 2015, 08:22:27 AM
McGregor is undeniably incredibly talented and has been very, very impressive to date. Never mind Aldo though, none of the guys McGregor has fought to date are on a level that approaches that of guys Aldo has already beaten.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on April 03, 2015, 08:33:39 AM
Aldo for me, I think a lot of people are caught up in the hype. The Prince Naseem comparison was a good one in boxing terms, Barrera the proven master wiped the floor of him and I expect this to pan out something similar. I'll be having some 4/6 that is available on Aldo.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 03, 2015, 08:58:29 AM
I just hope it's a close fight. Will look like a dick if he gets knocked out early on. I love the trash talkers and he is the ultimate trash talker.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 03, 2015, 10:40:29 AM
Naz was an exceptional boxer who had some huge wins though. He lost his biggest fight against an all time great, first ballot hall of famer. His brashness was backed up. McGregor doesn't have the record yet to back up his mouth.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: CiKe on April 03, 2015, 11:40:52 AM
Quote from: gallsman on April 03, 2015, 10:40:29 AM
Naz was an exceptional boxer who had some huge wins though. He lost his biggest fight against an all time great, first ballot hall of famer. His brashness was backed up. McGregor doesn't have the record yet to back up his mouth.

Disagree. Naz was not an exceptional boxer in the standard sense. He was exceptionally unorthodox with excellent power who when faced with an exceptional boxer got schooled.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: oakleaflad on April 03, 2015, 01:40:02 PM
Quote from: CiKe on April 03, 2015, 11:40:52 AM
Quote from: gallsman on April 03, 2015, 10:40:29 AM
Naz was an exceptional boxer who had some huge wins though. He lost his biggest fight against an all time great, first ballot hall of famer. His brashness was backed up. McGregor doesn't have the record yet to back up his mouth.

Disagree. Naz was not an exceptional boxer in the standard sense. He was exceptionally unorthodox with excellent power who when faced with an exceptional boxer got schooled.
Naz is actually a Hall of Famer now himself, was inducted at the end of last year.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: rrhf on April 03, 2015, 02:03:24 PM
I thought this thread was about mc geeneys armagh training.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 27, 2015, 09:06:21 PM
Jon Jones allegedly the perpetrator of a hit and run in Albuquerque, the victim of which was pregnant. Marijuana subsequently found in the car. Could be the end for him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 28, 2015, 04:27:19 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 27, 2015, 09:06:21 PM
Jon Jones allegedly the perpetrator of a hit and run in Albuquerque, the victim of which was pregnant. Marijuana subsequently found in the car. Could be the end for him.
He needs to be stripped of the title and sidelined for a year to clean himself up. what a waste of talent.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 28, 2015, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on April 28, 2015, 04:27:19 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 27, 2015, 09:06:21 PM
Jon Jones allegedly the perpetrator of a hit and run in Albuquerque, the victim of which was pregnant. Marijuana subsequently found in the car. Could be the end for him.
He needs to be stripped of the title and sidelined for a year to clean himself up. what a waste of talent.

A big test of just how committed the UFC is to improving its image. They've still yet to make any announcement about the fight or the event (three and a half weeks away).

Given the felony charge and fact he left the scene, he'll do very, very well to escape jail.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 28, 2015, 04:54:54 PM
It seems he jumped a light and cause two other vehicles to collide. I don't believe he collided with a vehicle? At least it isn't clear from the account online.
I'd imagine the lawyers will find some technicality or just pay the girl off....

Jones has really turned in to the bad guy but he'll throw his life away like a young Mike Tyson if he keeps going the way he is...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 28, 2015, 11:17:44 PM
The accusation is that he ran the red light, struck the car with the pregnant lady in it which led to a collision with a this car and then left the scene on foot, going back briefly to pick up some cash.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 29, 2015, 12:20:27 AM
Quote from: gallsman on April 28, 2015, 11:17:44 PM
The accusation is that he ran the red light, struck the car with the pregnant lady in it which led to a collision with a this car and then left the scene on foot, going back briefly to pick up some cash.
I see online he didn't offer a plea. So technically he is innocent until proven guilty two months from now. Leaving him to compere in a few weeks, make his money and then deal with it all then.
The UFC have taken a similar stance before and allowed fighters to compete while bonded.

The lad seriously needs help. I love to watch him fight. I'm a fan but he is throwing it all away. He want to NM for a cleaner life supposedly. He has a couple of kids like he'd want to wise up.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 29, 2015, 04:52:41 AM
JBJ suspended indefinitely and stripped of the title.

Dan Cormier vs Anthony Johnson for the title at UFC 187
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 29, 2015, 07:05:04 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on April 29, 2015, 04:52:41 AM
JBJ suspended indefinitely and stripped of the title.

Dan Cormier vs Anthony Johnson for the title at UFC 187

Fair play. Genuinely didn't think their have the balls to do it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 29, 2015, 06:15:10 PM
he lost his Reebok deal as well
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 29, 2015, 09:34:54 PM
definitely the right call and a bold move by the UFC which I didnt expect them to have the balls to do given the money his next fight would have generated....

hope he gets help and comes back stronger - he is one of the most athletically gifted fighters I've ever seen and deserves to come back - would be a waste if he goes to jail, becomes muslim, gets a face tattoo and appears in the hangover part 6
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 29, 2015, 09:41:28 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on April 29, 2015, 09:34:54 PM
definitely the right call and a bold move by the UFC which I didnt expect them to have the balls to do given the money his next fight would have generated....

hope he gets help and comes back stronger - he is one of the most athletically gifted fighters I've ever seen and deserves to come back - would be a waste if he goes to jail, becomes muslim, gets a face tattoo and appears in the hangover part 6

I know what you're getting at but what does he "deserve"? Right now he deserves absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 15, 2015, 03:28:13 PM
The heavweight strap changed hands at the weekend. Doesn't happen too often. If you get a chance try to watch Cain Velasquez and Fabricio Verdum go toe to toe for 3 rounds.
Also on the undercard a great scrap between Yair Rodriguez and Charles Rosa. It would make a new fan of the sport out of anyone!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 15, 2015, 03:45:46 PM
Lads I've tried to watch some of this, but I genuinely can't stomach it as a sport. When two lads are rolling on the ground trying to elbow each other in the face, or knee a lad in the jaw, it just looks like a scrap outside a pub at 2am.

I understand the technical elements, but how can such a blood sport be classified as a sport really?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 15, 2015, 04:00:20 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 15, 2015, 03:45:46 PM
Lads I've tried to watch some of this, but I genuinely can't stomach it as a sport. When two lads are rolling on the ground trying to elbow each other in the face, or knee a lad in the jaw, it just looks like a scrap outside a pub at 2am.

I understand the technical elements, but how can such a blood sport be classified as a sport really?
Technically you can't knee anyone to the face while 3 of their limbs are touching the ground..... Knees to the face, like in thai boxing are only legal while standing up.
Its the ultimate test, the ultimate sport AZ. One man versus one man, under controlled conditions, to see who is the best.
Combat sports are not for everyone....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 15, 2015, 04:05:37 PM
That's alright then. I can only knee you in the face if I hold your head down and you are on your feet :)

I don't think it's the ultimate sport. I think it's basically street fighting with a bit of glamour. Boxing is, to me, far cleaner and more like a sport.

What's the actual rules re striking areas etc? Can you kick a lad in the balls? Can you strike a lad's neck, or his throat?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 15, 2015, 05:17:08 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 15, 2015, 04:05:37 PM
That's alright then. I can only knee you in the face if I hold your head down and you are on your feet :)

I don't think it's the ultimate sport. I think it's basically street fighting with a bit of glamour. Boxing is, to me, far cleaner and more like a sport.

What's the actual rules re striking areas etc? Can you kick a lad in the balls? Can you strike a lad's neck, or his throat?
No strikes to the groin, the throat, no eye gouging, no fish hooking, no downward elbows, no head butting, no biting.

Boxing is a great sport - but it only determines who is the best using only their hands. Thai boxing is a great sport but it only determines who is the best using hands, legs, elbows and knees. Grappling and Olympic wrestling is a great sport but it only determines who is the best grappler. MMA is all of these and more....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on June 15, 2015, 05:36:14 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on June 15, 2015, 04:00:20 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 15, 2015, 03:45:46 PM
Lads I've tried to watch some of this, but I genuinely can't stomach it as a sport. When two lads are rolling on the ground trying to elbow each other in the face, or knee a lad in the jaw, it just looks like a scrap outside a pub at 2am.

I understand the technical elements, but how can such a blood sport be classified as a sport really?
Technically you can't knee anyone to the face while 3 of their limbs are touching the ground..... Knees to the face, like in thai boxing are only legal while standing up.
Its the ultimate test, the ultimate sport AZ. One man versus one man, under controlled conditions, to see who is the best.
Combat sports are not for everyone....

Em Iceman...... :D

Wasn't your recent objection to sodomy singularly on the grounds that it could do damage?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 15, 2015, 10:28:41 PM
Have you any links for the fights on Saturday past?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 16, 2015, 01:46:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTR7sUdhReE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTR7sUdhReE)
thats the Rodriguez Rosa full fight. Some other highlights on the side. Google would be your best bet for the rest lad. I only had that one as I sent it to my Da.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on June 23, 2015, 08:54:23 PM
Aldo/McGregor could be off - Aldo fractured a rib this morning in practice
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 24, 2015, 05:25:47 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on June 23, 2015, 08:54:23 PM
Aldo/McGregor could be off - Aldo fractured a rib this morning in practice

Few different scenarios here Gabe:

Aldo is not hurt and will fight and wants CMG to focus on his ribs - thus drawing him into something Aldo is drilling to defend. Make him think you're weak when you're strong.

The gate is too large and the blow-back too severe for Dana to take CMG off of the card. If he gives him an interim title shot CMG wont care who it is - he gets paid win or lose and I think the gold coin is more his concern. But I think Dana doesnt want CMG to lose - so feeding him someone like Max Halloway who is on a winning streak might be an option. Edgar would run through CMG, as would Mendes. I think Dana doesn't risk a wrestler...

either way the irish get to see their man - and 3 other irish guys on the card, Dana saves face and CMG gets paid.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 24, 2015, 07:02:17 PM
McGregor already dominated Holloway with one leg. Making that fight again would be outrageous.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on June 25, 2015, 04:23:18 AM
Looks like the fight is going ahead. If Aldo can't make it though is McGregor vs Mendes for the interim belt.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 25, 2015, 05:04:41 AM
yeah I heard from my mate who writes for the Indo that Mendes had flown to Vegas.
CMG gets paid either way. If Mendes wins which I think he will - CMG can talk his way out of it - wasn't prepared for a wrestler.....etc etc
Wonder what happened to Frankie.... I'd say CMG Mendes now and Aldo Frankie later? Then unification in NY?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 25, 2015, 08:53:59 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on June 25, 2015, 05:04:41 AM
yeah I heard from my mate who writes for the Indo that Mendes had flown to Vegas.
CMG gets paid either way. If Mendes wins which I think he will - CMG can talk his way out of it - wasn't prepared for a wrestler.....etc etc
Wonder what happened to Frankie.... I'd say CMG Mendes now and Aldo Frankie later? Then unification in NY?

Disagree - McGregor's mouth has been too big about how he's the best and ready for any style. If he loses, massive setback for him and will have to work his way back, without the helping hand he got this time.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ballinaman on June 25, 2015, 09:28:26 AM
Fight is on.

Not a bad publicity stunt.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Mikasa on June 25, 2015, 09:30:31 AM
UFC seems to be getting much bigger in not only Ireland but across the UK. Great build up despite some cringe moments.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 25, 2015, 09:45:48 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 25, 2015, 09:28:26 AM
Fight is on.

Not a bad publicity stunt.

Hopefully that's all it is. Mendes would still be a great fight for McGregor but I'm not sure how many people would still travel if they knew in advance that was the fight they were going to get.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 25, 2015, 04:36:58 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 25, 2015, 08:53:59 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on June 25, 2015, 05:04:41 AM
yeah I heard from my mate who writes for the Indo that Mendes had flown to Vegas.
CMG gets paid either way. If Mendes wins which I think he will - CMG can talk his way out of it - wasn't prepared for a wrestler.....etc etc
Wonder what happened to Frankie.... I'd say CMG Mendes now and Aldo Frankie later? Then unification in NY?

Disagree - McGregor's mouth has been too big about how he's the best and ready for any style. If he loses, massive setback for him and will have to work his way back, without the helping hand he got this time.

Thats fair but I still think if the Mendes fight happens and he loses he can take less of an impact because he didnt have a full camp for a wrestler...

Looks like the fight with aldo is still on. If Aldo is hurt he is making a big mistake. If he is playing possum CMG might get baited....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 25, 2015, 06:24:24 PM
Not that this should in anyway be the mindset, but if UFC want to protect him if Aldo doesn't happen, they should have him take a Lightweight fight rather than Mendes at feather. If Mendes got him on the ground he'd be in big trouble. Wouldn't even have to be a top lightweight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 25, 2015, 10:58:27 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 25, 2015, 06:24:24 PM
Not that this should in anyway be the mindset, but if UFC want to protect him if Aldo doesn't happen, they should have him take a Lightweight fight rather than Mendes at feather. If Mendes got him on the ground he'd be in big trouble. Wouldn't even have to be a top lightweight.
I was annoyed at Joe Duffy stepping up to fight him. I thought/hoped the UFC wouldn't play that card. Duffy is very marketable at LW. CMG should stay well away from any domestic fights.... though I'd like to see Joe Duffy destroy Norman Parke...

Never met Duffy, we was only starting when I left. I met Parke when he was still a cub - real talent and not a bad fella but just as moronic then as he is today. I want rid of him just be association to the North or Ireland - he's an embarrassment when he gets on the Mic!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 25, 2015, 11:37:28 PM
I'm not a big fan of Parke's either because of the mouth but I like the way he keeps very active and appears willing to fight anyone.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 26, 2015, 01:59:02 AM
Too much smoke for there not to be some injury. Hopefully it softens up Aldo. For all his mouthing there's no question I want McGregor to win.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on June 26, 2015, 06:13:15 AM
I know I am a dinosaur but I love boxing and loathe this UFC shite, boxing has been killed by promoters and the mob but I will never warm to this putrid barbarism called UFC.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on June 26, 2015, 05:40:07 PM
http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/06/26/katie-taylor-to-coach-conor-macgregor-on-how-to-win-fights-and-shut-up-about-it/ (http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/06/26/katie-taylor-to-coach-conor-macgregor-on-how-to-win-fights-and-shut-up-about-it/)

OLYMPIC gold medalist Katie Taylor has become the latest member of "The Notorious" Conor McGregor's backroom staff, where she will train the UFC fighter on how to win fights and shut up about it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 01, 2015, 01:41:37 AM
Aldo definitely out. McGregor vs Mendes it is
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on July 01, 2015, 02:41:54 PM
I'm heading to Vegas myself with a friend, wouldn't be the biggest follower of UFC, but funny up until the announcement this morning we were both about to buy tickets today, cheapest being about $500.

What's the story with this Mendes fella then? Will this fight be as entertaining, and how's McGregor's chances now? I've heard Aldo has beat this guy twice..

Don't think I'll bother with tickets now anyway!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 01, 2015, 02:54:00 PM
Arnie love McGregor anyways: http://www.the42.ie/arnie-conor-mcgregor-fan-2189045-Jun2015/

Arnie can do little wrong in my eyes (just watch Running Man ffs) so it must be true.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 01, 2015, 02:57:19 PM
Mendes is the real deal.  Elite wrestler who can takedown anybody. He has power in both hands and is a good all round fighter. Conor towers over him and if he focuses on boxing and doesn't kick too much he has a good shot at beating him. It should be an exciting fight and the card and atmosphere alone will be worth the ticket price. Theres nothing like a UFC event outside of Armagh in Croke Park. I've been to loads of sporting events and I love watching the UFC live. It will mostly be Irish, craic will be mighty and the noise will be unreal.

2nd to last fight with Robbie Lawler and Rory McDonald will be epic. a 15 min war.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 01, 2015, 11:13:09 PM
Longer no? Title fights are 5 round affairs
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on July 01, 2015, 11:19:15 PM
Aldo injury legit or did he crack?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 01, 2015, 11:28:31 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on July 01, 2015, 11:19:15 PM
Aldo injury legit or did he crack?

Are you kidding?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on July 01, 2015, 11:31:28 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 01, 2015, 11:28:31 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on July 01, 2015, 11:19:15 PM
Aldo injury legit or did he crack?

Are you kidding?

dont pretend to know much about UFC but when you declare your injured......then report your ok and fit to fight......and then pull out again......
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on July 01, 2015, 11:51:19 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on July 01, 2015, 11:31:28 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 01, 2015, 11:28:31 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on July 01, 2015, 11:19:15 PM
Aldo injury legit or did he crack?

Are you kidding?

dont pretend to know much about UFC but when you declare your injured......then report your ok and fit to fight......and then pull out again......

Aldo had to fight for his breakfast as a kid. He's also done the more extreme version of the sport and excelled.

The idea that A) he's afraid is absurd and b) that he'd turn down that amount of money because he'd be afraid to step into the ring is even more ridiculous. Its absolutely absurd that people think he'd afraid of Mc Gregor when you look at who he's been in against.

I've no doubts it's genuine. Boxers get injured all the time and no questions asked. Mc Gregor's game plan completely changes. If Mendes gets him on the floor it could get very interesting. mc gregor will go for an early knockout because the longer it goes the more I fancy Mendes.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 02, 2015, 05:33:40 AM
Rumours the other week that he pulled out as he was going to fail his drug test! Wouldnt be surprised.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ludermor on July 02, 2015, 10:08:11 AM
I really really hope that McGregor is hammered and disappears from view and all his 'fans' disappear with him.
I have no problem with UFC and would love if some of the other Irish lads can challenge and make a name for themselves but i really cant stand McGregor and the game he is playing ( very well it has to be said) .
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 02, 2015, 10:26:27 AM
McGregor is a smart, self promoting businessman. I don't like his fake persona but it sells and it's all about the money and PPV in that game. He has made a name for himself and has to be respected either way
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ludermor on July 02, 2015, 11:08:31 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on July 02, 2015, 10:26:27 AM
McGregor is a smart, self promoting businessman. I don't like his fake persona but it sells and it's all about the money and PPV in that game. He has made a name for himself and has to be respected either way
I said he is playing the game well but i dont have to respect him, the lack of respect he shows opponents is shocking considering how little he himself has achieved to date.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 02, 2015, 11:49:17 AM
Quote from: ludermor on July 02, 2015, 11:08:31 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on July 02, 2015, 10:26:27 AM
McGregor is a smart, self promoting businessman. I don't like his fake persona but it sells and it's all about the money and PPV in that game. He has made a name for himself and has to be respected either way
I said he is playing the game well but i dont have to respect him, the lack of respect he shows opponents is shocking considering how little he himself has achieved to date.

Did Ali show respect to Frazier? Mayweather to anyone? They are in the business of entertainment. I can see past the fascade and take him for what he is, an exceptional athlete.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: MoChara on July 02, 2015, 12:07:41 PM
This is the 5th Title fight Aldo has canceled or ducked out off, also I'm pretty sure he was cleared by doctors to fight too I don't know whats going on but I don't think its all as it seems.

Cynic in me reckons UFC set this fight up to fall over so they get the big draw of Mcgregor Mendes (off the back of ALdo PR) and then Mcgregopr Aldo anyway at a later date
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ludermor on July 02, 2015, 12:19:12 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on July 02, 2015, 11:49:17 AM
Quote from: ludermor on July 02, 2015, 11:08:31 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on July 02, 2015, 10:26:27 AM
McGregor is a smart, self promoting businessman. I don't like his fake persona but it sells and it's all about the money and PPV in that game. He has made a name for himself and has to be respected either way
I said he is playing the game well but i dont have to respect him, the lack of respect he shows opponents is shocking considering how little he himself has achieved to date.

Did Ali show respect to Frazier? Mayweather to anyone? They are in the business of entertainment. I can see past the fascade and take him for what he is, an exceptional athlete.
What has McGregor done to even be mentioned in the same breath as Ali or Mayweather? Just because some other sportsmen acted like c***ts doesn't excuse McGregor to behave like a ****, entrainment or not. And ill certainly not respect him for it. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 02, 2015, 01:25:06 PM
Quote from: ludermor on July 02, 2015, 12:19:12 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on July 02, 2015, 11:49:17 AM
Quote from: ludermor on July 02, 2015, 11:08:31 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on July 02, 2015, 10:26:27 AM
McGregor is a smart, self promoting businessman. I don't like his fake persona but it sells and it's all about the money and PPV in that game. He has made a name for himself and has to be respected either way
I said he is playing the game well but i dont have to respect him, the lack of respect he shows opponents is shocking considering how little he himself has achieved to date.

Did Ali show respect to Frazier? Mayweather to anyone? They are in the business of entertainment. I can see past the fascade and take him for what he is, an exceptional athlete.
What has McGregor done to even be mentioned in the same breath as Ali or Mayweather? Just because some other sportsmen acted like c***ts doesn't excuse McGregor to behave like a ****, entrainment or not. And ill certainly not respect him for it.

He can behave how he sees fit to and put arses on seats and sell PPV, just like Mayweather did and Ali being the two most recognisable mouth pieces. It's not a comparison on their sporting prowess. I don't like his persona as i've said but I can see past it and if it's making him millions then fair play and feck the begruders (and there are plenty of them in Ireland)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ludermor on July 02, 2015, 02:10:43 PM
You're right , he can behave how he sees fit but that doesn't mean i have to respect him and it doesn't mean im a begrudger if i don't respect him. In this particular case there are far more bandwagon jumping gobshites who never seen a UFC fight before him and haven't a clue about the sport or the fighters than there are begrudgers.
And while you may be able to see past his persona there are plenty of these gobshites who think this is who he is and what the UFC is. Its not the f**king WWF/WWE!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 02, 2015, 02:36:27 PM
Quote from: ludermor on July 02, 2015, 02:10:43 PM
You're right , he can behave how he sees fit but that doesn't mean i have to respect him and it doesn't mean im a begrudger if i don't respect him. In this particular case there are far more bandwagon jumping gobshites who never seen a UFC fight before him and haven't a clue about the sport or the fighters than there are begrudgers.
And while you may be able to see past his persona there are plenty of these gobshites who think this is who he is and what the UFC is. Its not the f**king WWF/WWE!

UFC is heavily influenced by pro wrestling.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on July 02, 2015, 02:44:50 PM
McGregor has acted like a tube (maybe he is a tube in real life, maybe a sweetheart, I wouldn't have a notion) to help promote the fight. But, his complete lack of respect for Aldo was very ott at times. But its all about the money, right?? the money baby, loads a money ! em em, smell that lovely money. Regarding the comparison with Ali. Ali was witty were McGregor is embarrassing.

I enjoyed thejournal.ie the other day saying Aldo's injury was 'merely bruised ribs'...Id say the journalist has never had a knee or foot to the rig cage.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 02, 2015, 03:08:37 PM
Ali might have been witty but he was a nasty piece of work too.

Also Aldo hasn't exactly been too complementary (understandably maybe) about Ireland or the Irish.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on July 02, 2015, 03:57:30 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on July 02, 2015, 03:08:37 PM
Ali might have been witty but he was a nasty piece of work too.

Also Aldo hasn't exactly been too complementary (understandably maybe) about Ireland or the Irish.

opinion mostly based on McGregor, his drunken entourage and facebook warriors ! Wouldn't blame the man
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 02, 2015, 04:50:39 PM
McGregor in front of the camera is a persona. An act to draw attention, good or bad, to get people to buy PPVs and attend fights live. He is a prizefighter - all about the gold and he has gathering a tremendous amount of it in a very short period of time. He genuinely is not like that in person. He's always had a mouth when it came to other fighters but he is very civil in person.
I personally enjoy it all. I cringe sometimes at what he says but so far he has backed it all up.  There's no denying he is an exceptional athlete who is committed 100% to his trade - I tip my hat to any athlete for their dedication.
On the world stage he has raised the profile of Ireland and Irish MMA in particular.

Part of my theory on a lot of the hated for McGregor at home in Ireland is typical Irish begrudgery. Like Sean Quinn was a rogue and a cheat when he had millions he was a victim who people were raising money for when he was on his knees.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 03, 2015, 08:32:02 AM
I think you'll either loathe him for his this persona he puts on but people actually believe that is the way he normally is which is complete rubbish. It's a mask to make money and PPV sales. Irish people are general probably aren't comfortable and far prefer an introverted personality or someone humble like Katie Taylor.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 08:39:05 AM
I think that's part of it, but KT is a five time world champion and an Olympic champion to boot. McGregor has been handpicked by Dana and parachuted into a title fight before his turn, yet acts as if he's already the champion. Nothing wrong with a wee bit of humility.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 03, 2015, 08:43:39 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 08:39:05 AM
I think that's part of it, but KT is a five time world champion and an Olympic champion to boot. McGregor has been handpicked by Dana and parachuted into a title fight before his turn, yet acts as if he's already the champion. Nothing wing with a wee bit of humility.

And the otherside of the coin is women's boxing is poor and it would be much easier to get to the top of your weight class than the top of the UFC weight class. In my opinion of course. Again nothing wrong with humility but it doesn't sell.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: MoChara on July 03, 2015, 09:00:05 AM
Quote from: ludermor on July 02, 2015, 02:10:43 PM
You're right , he can behave how he sees fit but that doesn't mean i have to respect him and it doesn't mean im a begrudger if i don't respect him. In this particular case there are far more bandwagon jumping gobshites who never seen a UFC fight before him and haven't a clue about the sport or the fighters than there are begrudgers.
And while you may be able to see past his persona there are plenty of these gobshites who think this is who he is and what the UFC is. Its not the f**king WWF/WWE!

This is exactly what hes there to do, bring people in that don't normally watch UFC
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 09:01:22 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on July 03, 2015, 08:43:39 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 08:39:05 AM
I think that's part of it, but KT is a five time world champion and an Olympic champion to boot. McGregor has been handpicked by Dana and parachuted into a title fight before his turn, yet acts as if he's already the champion. Nothing wing with a wee bit of humility.

And the otherside of the coin is women's boxing is poor and it would be much easier to get to the top of your weight class than the top of the UFC weight class. In my opinion of course. Again nothing wrong with humility but it doesn't sell.

It's all relative. You say women's boxing is poor, but KT is at the very top of it and had worked her arse off just as much and possibly more than McGregor to get to where she is in her sport. She had earned the respect she doesn't demand. McGregor demands respect and recognition that he has not yet earned. Like yourself, that's also just my opinion.

There's plenty of shite MMA too by the way. Much of it UFC.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 03, 2015, 09:05:40 AM
I wouldn't disagree with you there, and the very fact McGregor has been fast tracked shows that he is right to be mouthing as publicity stunts, some cringe worthy and more akin to wrestling but effective brining a new audience nonetheless. It would however be easier for a woman to get to their respective boxing weight than a man in his UFC equivalent - Obviously McGregor isn't at the top, yet but he is a supreme athlete in a growing sport/business and the UFC and Dana have struck gold with him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 09:09:17 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on July 03, 2015, 09:05:40 AM
I wouldn't disagree with you there, and the very fact McGregor has been fast tracked shows that he is right to be mouthing as publicity stunts, some cringe worthy and more akin to wrestling but effective brining a new audience nonetheless. It would however be easier for a woman to get to their respective boxing weight than a man in his UFC equivalent - Obviously McGregor isn't at the top, yet but he is a supreme athlete in a growing sport/business and the UFC and Dana have struck gold with him.

True.

It'll be very interesting to see what happens if he loses. A lot of people aren't on the bandwagon yet and if Dana continues to push him after a loss in his first big fight and treat him like the golden goose ahead of more deserving fighters there'll be uproar.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on July 03, 2015, 09:09:30 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 09:01:22 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on July 03, 2015, 08:43:39 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 08:39:05 AM
I think that's part of it, but KT is a five time world champion and an Olympic champion to boot. McGregor has been handpicked by Dana and parachuted into a title fight before his turn, yet acts as if he's already the champion. Nothing wing with a wee bit of humility.

And the otherside of the coin is women's boxing is poor and it would be much easier to get to the top of your weight class than the top of the UFC weight class. In my opinion of course. Again nothing wrong with humility but it doesn't sell.

It's all relative. You say women's boxing is poor, but KT is at the very top of it and had worked her arse off just as much and possibly more than McGregor to get to where she is in her sport. She had earned the respect she doesn't demand. McGregor demands respect and recognition that he has not yet earned. Like yourself, that's also just my opinion.

There's plenty of shite MMA too by the way. Much of it UFC.

KT is only at the top of amateur boxing.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 03, 2015, 09:19:09 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 03, 2015, 09:09:30 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 09:01:22 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on July 03, 2015, 08:43:39 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 08:39:05 AM
I think that's part of it, but KT is a five time world champion and an Olympic champion to boot. McGregor has been handpicked by Dana and parachuted into a title fight before his turn, yet acts as if he's already the champion. Nothing wing with a wee bit of humility.

And the otherside of the coin is women's boxing is poor and it would be much easier to get to the top of your weight class than the top of the UFC weight class. In my opinion of course. Again nothing wrong with humility but it doesn't sell.

It's all relative. You say women's boxing is poor, but KT is at the very top of it and had worked her arse off just as much and possibly more than McGregor to get to where she is in her sport. She had earned the respect she doesn't demand. McGregor demands respect and recognition that he has not yet earned. Like yourself, that's also just my opinion.

There's plenty of shite MMA too by the way. Much of it UFC.

KT is only at the top of amateur boxing.

It was a comparison on personality traits more than anything, not sure if there is much of a market for Women's professional boxing anyway. I actually think boxing could learn a thing or two from UFC in promotion and but the corrpution and multiple organisations makes it impossible to make proper inroads. The UFC were the big winner in the Mayweather v Pacman fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 09:26:10 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 03, 2015, 09:09:30 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 09:01:22 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on July 03, 2015, 08:43:39 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 08:39:05 AM
I think that's part of it, but KT is a five time world champion and an Olympic champion to boot. McGregor has been handpicked by Dana and parachuted into a title fight before his turn, yet acts as if he's already the champion. Nothing wing with a wee bit of humility.

And the otherside of the coin is women's boxing is poor and it would be much easier to get to the top of your weight class than the top of the UFC weight class. In my opinion of course. Again nothing wrong with humility but it doesn't sell.

It's all relative. You say women's boxing is poor, but KT is at the very top of it and had worked her arse off just as much and possibly more than McGregor to get to where she is in her sport. She had earned the respect she doesn't demand. McGregor demands respect and recognition that he has not yet earned. Like yourself, that's also just my opinion.

There's plenty of shite MMA too by the way. Much of it UFC.

KT is only at the top of amateur boxing.

What, precisely, is your point? You say "only" at the top. Makes her life's work redundant, does it? Henry Shefflin, the Gooch, Bernard Brogan etc are all "only" amateurs too I take it, despite being amongst the country's finest sportsmen?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on July 03, 2015, 09:57:00 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 09:26:10 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 03, 2015, 09:09:30 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 09:01:22 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on July 03, 2015, 08:43:39 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 08:39:05 AM
I think that's part of it, but KT is a five time world champion and an Olympic champion to boot. McGregor has been handpicked by Dana and parachuted into a title fight before his turn, yet acts as if he's already the champion. Nothing wing with a wee bit of humility.

And the otherside of the coin is women's boxing is poor and it would be much easier to get to the top of your weight class than the top of the UFC weight class. In my opinion of course. Again nothing wrong with humility but it doesn't sell.

It's all relative. You say women's boxing is poor, but KT is at the very top of it and had worked her arse off just as much and possibly more than McGregor to get to where she is in her sport. She had earned the respect she doesn't demand. McGregor demands respect and recognition that he has not yet earned. Like yourself, that's also just my opinion.

There's plenty of shite MMA too by the way. Much of it UFC.

KT is only at the top of amateur boxing.

What, precisely, is your point? You say "only" at the top. Makes her life's work redundant, does it? Henry Shefflin, the Gooch, Bernard Brogan etc are all "only" amateurs too I take it, despite being amongst the country's finest sportsmen?

Taylor is at the top of a section of her sport.  Shefflin, Gooch and Brogan are/were at the top of their sports full stop. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 10:31:05 AM
Taylor's sport is amateur boxing. How much do you actually know about women's professional boxing?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on July 03, 2015, 10:40:54 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 10:31:05 AM
Taylor's sport is amateur boxing. How much do you actually know about women's professional boxing?

Very little, but I would imagine its a cut above amateur boxing.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 11:02:21 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 03, 2015, 10:40:54 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 10:31:05 AM
Taylor's sport is amateur boxing. How much do you actually know about women's professional boxing?

Very little, but I would imagine its a cut above amateur boxing.

I'm the same, and I think that would be a very brave assumption - even in the men's game, some amateurs are simply *that* good. Look at Lomachenko as an example.

Anyway, back on track. I think McGregor's a c**k and he should distance himself from the morons who turned up at the press conference in the convention centre but all the best to him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 03, 2015, 11:08:31 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 11:02:21 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 03, 2015, 10:40:54 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 10:31:05 AM
Taylor's sport is amateur boxing. How much do you actually know about women's professional boxing?

Very little, but I would imagine its a cut above amateur boxing.

I'm the same, and I think that would be a very brave assumption.

Ironically turning professional would be largely fruitless for the vast majority of women boxers. Contrast that to the UFC were Ronda Rousey, Meisha Tate and the likes are up there with the most recognisable faces in any women's sport. How Katie was a big reason why Women's boxing was accepted into the Olympics and definitely changed the perception of the sport but would she gain much from turning pro? Absolutely not in my view.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 06, 2015, 09:16:12 AM
Are many going to watch McGregor Mendes? Be interesting to see viewing figures.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on July 11, 2015, 10:46:29 AM

Is McGregor struggling with the weight?  He looks very gaunt and drained over the last week
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on July 11, 2015, 10:48:21 PM
What time do we reckon McGregor will be on tonight lads?? Planning on getting up for it rather than staying up!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 11, 2015, 11:47:38 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 11, 2015, 10:48:21 PM
What time do we reckon McGregor will be on tonight lads?? Planning on getting up for it rather than staying up!
Have heard from 4am onwards.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gmac on July 11, 2015, 11:48:32 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 11, 2015, 10:46:29 AM

Is McGregor struggling with the weight?  He looks very gaunt and drained over the last week
I thought the same he looked brutal , very thin in his face
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 12, 2015, 12:26:49 AM
Quote from: Gmac on July 11, 2015, 11:48:32 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 11, 2015, 10:46:29 AM

Is McGregor struggling with the weight?  He looks very gaunt and drained over the last week
I thought the same he looked brutal , very thin in his face

He's looked bad at the weigh in the last couple of fights. The cut to 145 must be awful for him. Don't think there's any hope of them letting him go to LW for a while so looks like he'll have to keep it up.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 12, 2015, 12:35:13 AM
The Irish support in LV is something else so Dana White is gonna milk this cash cow till the tit is dry.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gmac on July 12, 2015, 12:46:13 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 12, 2015, 12:35:13 AM
The Irish support in LV is something else so Dana White is gonna milk this cash cow till the tit is dry.
Thousand of Irish from the cities in the states there as well as the ones who travelled from home.
On another note Irish fans need a new song or anthem other than the ole ole ole getting old that one.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on July 12, 2015, 04:15:52 AM
Quote from: Gmac on July 12, 2015, 12:46:13 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 12, 2015, 12:35:13 AM
The Irish support in LV is something else so Dana White is gonna milk this cash cow till the tit is dry.
Thousand of Irish from the cities in the states there as well as the ones who travelled from home.
On another note Irish fans need a new song or anthem other than the ole ole ole getting old that one.

I think it's class and so quickly recognizable and that's coming from a nordie prod.

Sitting in a bar in Fresno, 40 odd miles from where Mendes is from. Outnumbered to say the least!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Subbie on July 12, 2015, 05:26:09 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on July 12, 2015, 04:15:52 AM
Quote from: Gmac on July 12, 2015, 12:46:13 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 12, 2015, 12:35:13 AM
The Irish support in LV is something else so Dana White is gonna milk this cash cow till the tit is dry.
Thousand of Irish from the cities in the states there as well as the ones who travelled from home.
On another note Irish fans need a new song or anthem other than the ole ole ole getting old that one.

I think it's class and so quickly recognizable and that's coming from a nordie prod.

Sitting in a bar in Fresno, 40 odd miles from where Mendes is from. Outnumbered to say the least!
Like a taig at a bonefire then 😉😉😉😉😉
Enjoy!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 12, 2015, 05:51:46 AM
On first viewing I thought Dean had stopped the fight too early - considering there were only 3 seconds left but after seeing the replay Mendes lights were out and he was turtling.

Fair play to him - he backed up the talking with a huge performance.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Premier Emperor on July 12, 2015, 07:52:26 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 10:31:05 AM
Taylor's sport is amateur boxing. How much do you actually know about women's professional boxing?
Amateur boxing is like pitch and putt and professional boxing is golf.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Premier Emperor on July 12, 2015, 07:54:10 AM
I can't believe so many people are duped by this UFC sham.
It's a rip off of WWE and Conor McGregor is Sheamus!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 12, 2015, 08:34:26 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 12, 2015, 05:51:46 AM
On first viewing I thought Dean had stopped the fight too early - considering there were only 3 seconds left but after seeing the replay Mendes lights were out and he was turtling.

Fair play to him - he backed up the talking with a huge performance.

I think it was early. Mendes knew he had to get through only a few seconds but was a seriously ballsy display from McGregor after taking so many of those elbows.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 12, 2015, 09:41:02 AM
Iceman or Gab or someone who really understands this - was McGregor playing possum the whole time on the ground, happy to take the shots, while waiting for Mendes to transition to a hold knowing that was his chance to escape? Also, when Mendes went for it, he had him by the neck for the choke, he looked to have it locked in. When he went to wrap the legs was it poor execution or was it skill by McGregor to escape?

I don't like him but that was great to watch and he took a fair hammering and came out the far side. Still think Dean should have left it the three seconds!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 12, 2015, 09:44:59 AM
It was a nonsense stoppage. Your lights can't be out and turtling. If someone puts you out cold you aren't on your knees protecting your head. Could have ran down the 3 seconds easily but McGregor win was pre - ordained.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: finbar o tool on July 12, 2015, 09:49:17 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on July 12, 2015, 07:54:10 AM
I can't believe so many people are duped by this UFC sham.
It's a rip off of WWE and Conor McGregor is Sheamus!

Have a look at the pics from the Robbie Lawler/Rory Macdonald fight, or Almeida's KO on Brad Pickett, its no where near the fakeness of wrestling!
Its was a tough call for the ref on whether to stop it or not, he might not have known there was only 3 seconds to go? Maybey he thought there 10 seconds to go or so, big difference in that when someone is getting punch after punch! I dont think McGregor was gona stop hitting Mendes!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 12, 2015, 10:02:52 AM
The Lawler-McDonald fight was brutal. McDonald gassed at just the wrong time after he had him hurt with the head kicks. Was surprised at the end as after he'd taken such a battering to the face, it looked like, and I'm not saying this in a critical sense as it would be perfectly understandable, he decided to quit?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Sidney on July 12, 2015, 11:54:38 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on July 12, 2015, 07:54:10 AM
I can't believe so many people are duped by this UFC sham.
It's a rip off of WWE and Conor McGregor is Sheamus!
That's very unfair to WWE and Sheamus.

Wrestling is real.

This UFC shit is a fooking pantomime.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on July 12, 2015, 01:32:30 PM
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Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 12, 2015, 05:11:26 PM
Does McGregor call the shots now or does he have to fight Aldo? Anymore reports on why Aldo pulled out? I've read a few rumours about him using fake X-ray scans, chasing drug testers away etc.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 12, 2015, 05:14:53 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 12, 2015, 05:11:26 PM
Does McGregor call the shots now or does he have to fight Aldo? Anymore reports on why Aldo pulled out? I've read a few rumours about him using fake X-ray scans, chasing drug testers away etc.

Dana and the Fertittas call the shots. Always.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bridgegael on July 12, 2015, 05:19:03 PM
would he fill croke park??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 12, 2015, 05:26:23 PM
Quote from: bridgegael on July 12, 2015, 05:19:03 PM
would he fill croke park??

He'd get enough people to fill it 5 times.... the residents wouldnt want that though
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 12, 2015, 05:49:21 PM
http://www.mma-core.com/videos/recent/ (http://www.mma-core.com/videos/recent/)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 12, 2015, 05:52:06 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 12, 2015, 05:26:23 PM
Quote from: bridgegael on July 12, 2015, 05:19:03 PM
would he fill croke park??

He'd get enough people to fill it 5 times.... the residents wouldnt want that though

I think that's bullshit. He'd sell it out, but 410,000 people here want to go and see him? Rubbish.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laceer on July 13, 2015, 12:17:46 AM
Fair play to McGregor. Backing up his talk with performances. I thought he'd put on a lot more muscle since his last fight so would struggle to make weight. Seemed really gaunt and unhealthy looking even after the weigh in-would love to know how much weight he actually cut. Dealt with Mendes' take downs during the fight and finished him with a sweet left. Cocky in prediction, confident in preparation, humble in victory or defeat. Not the typical Irish sportsman's approach but shows great pride in being Irish. Looking forward to seeing him progress.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 13, 2015, 12:47:42 AM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: trileacman on July 13, 2015, 12:53:13 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 13, 2015, 12:47:42 AM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!

A p***k, I have no time for him. Can't understand the mentality that deems Rory McIlroy's smugness to be distasteful but McGregor's arrogance and hardman play acting to be acceptable.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 13, 2015, 02:22:50 AM
Quote from: trileacman on July 13, 2015, 12:53:13 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 13, 2015, 12:47:42 AM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!

A p***k, I have no time for him. Can't understand the mentality that deems Rory McIlroy's smugness to be distasteful but McGregor's arrogance and hardman play acting to be acceptable.

I don't defend the Rory haters but it might have something to do with one of them hitting golf balls and the other hitting bad motherfûckers! Different rules apply to the fight game. It's part theater. The best of all-time understand and embrace that.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 13, 2015, 04:27:05 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2015, 09:41:02 AM
Iceman or Gab or someone who really understands this - was McGregor playing possum the whole time on the ground, happy to take the shots, while waiting for Mendes to transition to a hold knowing that was his chance to escape? Also, when Mendes went for it, he had him by the neck for the choke, he looked to have it locked in. When he went to wrap the legs was it poor execution or was it skill by McGregor to escape?

I don't like him but that was great to watch and he took a fair hammering and came out the far side. Still think Dean should have left it the three seconds!
McGregor was in serious trouble on his back Gallsman. He said in the press conference he was hitting him from the bottom, stalling Mendes and being efficient but he had nothing to offer other than that. McGregor got up because Mendes made a mistake and went for a submission, McGregor is a bigger man and exploded up in the scramble and got back to his feet. He was losing the fight by both rounds at that point. You really need to have the choke secured and be in at least half guard transitioning to full guard to land it properly. Mendes smaller frame hurt him, hard to wrap short legs around anyone.  I still think Mendes beats him with a full training camp but fair play to CMG - he was amazing in the standup, despite his obvious physical deterioration (he looked dreadful from the weight cut)....

A fantastic main card. Robbie Lawler is a warrior and Mcdonald won me over for his gutsy performance. Robbie has brutally hurt him now in two fights - I don't know if McDonald can ever be the same after that.

Some crazy flying knee finishes by Jeremy Stephens and Thomas Almeida  - both worth a look.

Also on the prelims check out Matt Brown versus Tim Means  - too tight tight men
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Premier Emperor on July 13, 2015, 10:03:53 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 12, 2015, 05:26:23 PM
Quote from: bridgegael on July 12, 2015, 05:19:03 PM
would he fill croke park??

He'd get enough people to fill it 5 times.... the residents wouldnt want that though
The residents around Croke Park would have no problem with Sheamus McGregor. He draws a lot of his following from that area.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: finbar o tool on July 13, 2015, 10:10:04 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 13, 2015, 02:22:50 AM
Quote from: trileacman on July 13, 2015, 12:53:13 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 13, 2015, 12:47:42 AM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!

A p***k, I have no time for him. Can't understand the mentality that deems Rory McIlroy's smugness to be distasteful but McGregor's arrogance and hardman play acting to be acceptable.

I don't defend the Rody haters but it might have something to do with one of them hitting golf balls and the other hitting bad motherfûckers! Different rules apply to the fight game. It's part theater. The best of all-time understand and embrace that.

agree Syferus. boxers do it too, but boxing has become boring now, very little good fights anymore. thats part of the reason UFC has become so popular. Muhammad Ali was the biggest mouth piece ever when he started out, the Louisville Lip! everyone thought he was crazy and couldn't wait til he was beat! now im not comparing the 2 men, but they are similar in that sense.

how do people not see that its a show, to generate interest, which generates money!! the Americans all take him seriously too, you have to take his talk with a pinch of salt! he is a very intelligent man and he is reaping the rewards!
taking Aldos belt in Dublin was a little bit much, but, it went viral around the world, it was attention, it added to the hype!
if i was McGregor i would stay doing exactly as im doing! he is Dana Whites money machine!
he is, and i quote, "the new face of the UFC" !

oh and he would sell out Croke Park no problem!

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 10:52:54 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 12, 2015, 05:11:26 PM
Does McGregor call the shots now or does he have to fight Aldo? Anymore reports on why Aldo pulled out? I've read a few rumours about him using fake X-ray scans, chasing drug testers away etc.
I thought UFC doesn't have drug testing, though? I thought that was the point, that it's not regulated and thus they have carte blanche to juice up on whatever they want?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omagh_gael on July 13, 2015, 11:26:48 AM
As far as I am aware they do, one of the biggest names no longer competes due to testosterone enhancements, Chel Sonnen.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 13, 2015, 11:29:41 AM
Quote from: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 10:52:54 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 12, 2015, 05:11:26 PM
Does McGregor call the shots now or does he have to fight Aldo? Anymore reports on why Aldo pulled out? I've read a few rumours about him using fake X-ray scans, chasing drug testers away etc.
I thought UFC doesn't have drug testing, though? I thought that was the point, that it's not regulated and thus they have carte blanche to juice up on whatever they want?

you couldn't be more wrong even if you tried
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 13, 2015, 11:36:31 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 13, 2015, 11:29:41 AM
Quote from: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 10:52:54 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 12, 2015, 05:11:26 PM
Does McGregor call the shots now or does he have to fight Aldo? Anymore reports on why Aldo pulled out? I've read a few rumours about him using fake X-ray scans, chasing drug testers away etc.
I thought UFC doesn't have drug testing, though? I thought that was the point, that it's not regulated and thus they have carte blanche to juice up on whatever they want?

you couldn't be more wrong even if you tried

At the same time, let's not ignore fact that even with its progress recently, UFC and the wider world of mma has a long way to go on this front.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on July 13, 2015, 11:38:08 AM
Just had a look at the fight there. Wouldn't be my thing at all. A lad hammering elbows into another lads eye socket is something you'd expect outside the Bullring in Tralee, or at 4am outside a nightclub, not something I would class as sport, but sure everyone to their own.

McGregor I dislike his public persona a lot. I don't like that sort of self aggrandising approach, but I realise why he does it and I'm willing to believe he's not like that in real life. However, whatever about his posturing and nonsense talking, he's a brave little divil. That was a lot of punishment he took, and he stood up well. He actually looks like he could be a decent boxer too, that's a big left hand he has there.

Best part for me though was Sinead O'Connor singing the Foggy Dew. Talk about hair raising. (no pun intended Sinead!).

I'm glad everyone had a good time, and I'm glad he won, but I won't be mad to watch his next fight either. In contrast i'll probably buy a ticket for Andy Lee in Thomond Park.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on July 13, 2015, 11:38:59 AM
Quote from: trileacman on July 13, 2015, 12:53:13 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 13, 2015, 12:47:42 AM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!

A p***k, I have no time for him. Can't understand the mentality that deems Rory McIlroy's smugness to be distasteful but McGregor's arrogance and hardman play acting to be acceptable.
I'd love to see McGregor get Mcilroy into the ring or hexagon or what ever the feck it's called for a few rounds.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GJL on July 13, 2015, 11:42:50 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 13, 2015, 11:38:59 AM
Quote from: trileacman on July 13, 2015, 12:53:13 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 13, 2015, 12:47:42 AM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!

A p***k, I have no time for him. Can't understand the mentality that deems Rory McIlroy's smugness to be distasteful but McGregor's arrogance and hardman play acting to be acceptable.
I'd love to see McGregor get Mcilroy into the ring or hexagon or what ever the feck it's called for a few rounds.

Is Rory permitted a 5 iron?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 11:52:02 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 13, 2015, 11:29:41 AM
Quote from: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 10:52:54 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 12, 2015, 05:11:26 PM
Does McGregor call the shots now or does he have to fight Aldo? Anymore reports on why Aldo pulled out? I've read a few rumours about him using fake X-ray scans, chasing drug testers away etc.
I thought UFC doesn't have drug testing, though? I thought that was the point, that it's not regulated and thus they have carte blanche to juice up on whatever they want?

you couldn't be more wrong even if you tried
Who regulates it? This Dana White chap?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on July 13, 2015, 12:00:12 PM
Quote from: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 11:52:02 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 13, 2015, 11:29:41 AM
Quote from: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 10:52:54 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 12, 2015, 05:11:26 PM
Does McGregor call the shots now or does he have to fight Aldo? Anymore reports on why Aldo pulled out? I've read a few rumours about him using fake X-ray scans, chasing drug testers away etc.
I thought UFC doesn't have drug testing, though? I thought that was the point, that it's not regulated and thus they have carte blanche to juice up on whatever they want?

you couldn't be more wrong even if you tried
Who regulates it? This Dana White chap?

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/06/ufc-confirms-partnership-with-usada-details-of-out-of-competition-testing-program
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Premier Emperor on July 13, 2015, 12:01:52 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 13, 2015, 11:38:59 AM
Quote from: trileacman on July 13, 2015, 12:53:13 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 13, 2015, 12:47:42 AM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!

A p***k, I have no time for him. Can't understand the mentality that deems Rory McIlroy's smugness to be distasteful but McGregor's arrogance and hardman play acting to be acceptable.
I'd love to see McGregor get Mcilroy into the ring or hexagon or what ever the feck it's called for a few rounds.
The franchise already has its Irish leprechaun character in Sheamus McGregor. McIlroy adds nothing to it.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 12:09:43 PM
Paul Kimmage has just said on Radio 1 that he was "repulsed" by this McGregor event and also said "I would question whether mainstream media should even engage with it".
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on July 13, 2015, 12:20:53 PM
Quote from: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 12:09:43 PM
Paul Kimmage has just said on Radio 1 that he was "repulsed" by this McGregor event and also said "I would question whether mainstream media should even engage with it".

On what grounds? The violence? The Drug Testing? Or McGregor's obnoxious public image?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 13, 2015, 12:20:53 PM
Quote from: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 12:09:43 PM
Paul Kimmage has just said on Radio 1 that he was "repulsed" by this McGregor event and also said "I would question whether mainstream media should even engage with it".

On what grounds? The violence? The Drug Testing? Or McGregor's obnoxious public image?
A little from column A. a little from column B, and a little from column C, I would presume.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on July 13, 2015, 12:49:55 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 13, 2015, 11:38:59 AM
Quote from: trileacman on July 13, 2015, 12:53:13 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 13, 2015, 12:47:42 AM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!

A p***k, I have no time for him. Can't understand the mentality that deems Rory McIlroy's smugness to be distasteful but McGregor's arrogance and hardman play acting to be acceptable.
I'd love to see McGregor get Mcilroy into the ring or hexagon or what ever the feck it's called for a few rounds.

We'd all love to see McGregor in there for 30 seconds with you!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 12:54:37 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 13, 2015, 12:49:55 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 13, 2015, 11:38:59 AM
Quote from: trileacman on July 13, 2015, 12:53:13 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 13, 2015, 12:47:42 AM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!

A p***k, I have no time for him. Can't understand the mentality that deems Rory McIlroy's smugness to be distasteful but McGregor's arrogance and hardman play acting to be acceptable.
I'd love to see McGregor get Mcilroy into the ring or hexagon or what ever the feck it's called for a few rounds.

We'd all love to see McGregor in there for 30 seconds with you!
He'd probably put up more of a fight than some of the jokers McGregor has "fought" so far. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 13, 2015, 12:56:16 PM
Quote from: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 11:52:02 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 13, 2015, 11:29:41 AM
Quote from: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 10:52:54 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 12, 2015, 05:11:26 PM
Does McGregor call the shots now or does he have to fight Aldo? Anymore reports on why Aldo pulled out? I've read a few rumours about him using fake X-ray scans, chasing drug testers away etc.
I thought UFC doesn't have drug testing, though? I thought that was the point, that it's not regulated and thus they have carte blanche to juice up on whatever they want?

you couldn't be more wrong even if you tried
Who regulates it? This Dana White chap?

yer ma
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on July 13, 2015, 11:01:57 PM
Just watched the mcgregor fight on 3e. I've seen the odd clip here and there.  It's a mad sport.  Vicious in the extreme.  After watching the way mcgregor conducted himself during the fight and after I'd have respect for the man.  All I knew was the trash talk and lack of respect for Aldo etc.

A couple of questions though to the ufc men on here.

What's the craic with the elbows to the the face and top of the head when you've a man pinned to the deck..work away?

Mendes had 2 weeks prep and got plenty of reward in the 1st 2 rounds.  Is mcgregor capable of beating Aldo?  I'll definitely  watch it
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 13, 2015, 11:24:30 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on July 13, 2015, 11:01:57 PM
Just watched the mcgregor fight on 3e. I've seen the odd clip here and there.  It's a mad sport.  Vicious in the extreme.  After watching the way mcgregor conducted himself during the fight and after I'd have respect for the man.  All I knew was the trash talk and lack of respect for Aldo etc.

A couple of questions though to the ufc men on here.

What's the craic with the elbows to the the face and top of the head when you've a man pinned to the deck..work away?

Mendes had 2 weeks prep and got plenty of reward in the 1st 2 rounds.  Is mcgregor capable of beating Aldo?  I'll definitely  watch it

McGregor should handle Aldo. A fully prepared Mendes would beat McGregor but they will keep him away from Wrestlers for a while again. They will milk him on the Ultimate Fighter, then on the Aldo fight then on his title defense in Croker.  McGregor win or lose in Croker will be a wealthy man.

Elbows to the top of the head from the bottom are legal, think about it, you dont get much sting on anything off of your back, no body weight, all limited arm strength with your shoulders on the mat.
From the top elbows are legal from 3-9or 9-3 but not from 12 - 6 (straight down). 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on July 13, 2015, 11:35:11 PM
Thanks Iceman.  I understood most of that :-)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on July 14, 2015, 03:58:12 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 13, 2015, 11:38:59 AM
Quote from: trileacman on July 13, 2015, 12:53:13 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 13, 2015, 12:47:42 AM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!

A p***k, I have no time for him. Can't understand the mentality that deems Rory McIlroy's smugness to be distasteful but McGregor's arrogance and hardman play acting to be acceptable.
I'd love to see McGregor get Mcilroy into the ring or hexagon or what ever the feck it's called for a few rounds.

I would expect that from you son, no class and the fact that you would want a big mouthed thug beat seven shades of shite out of a golfer, who declared for Ireland and actually is the best in the world at what he does, well, it speaks volumes, McGregor is devoid of humility and although I cannot root against the f**ker I cannot bring myself to hope he wins. I support all Irish athletes and want the best for all Irish people, Rory McIlroy has never been in trouble in his life, is a solid citizen and I cannot fathom as to why you would want him beaten to shit by a loudmouth bollocks like McGregor?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on July 14, 2015, 04:05:54 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on July 13, 2015, 11:01:57 PM
Just watched the mcgregor fight on 3e. I've seen the odd clip here and there.  It's a mad sport.  Vicious in the extreme.  After watching the way mcgregor conducted himself during the fight and after I'd have respect for the man.  All I knew was the trash talk and lack of respect for Aldo etc.

A couple of questions though to the ufc men on here.

What's the craic with the elbows to the the face and top of the head when you've a man pinned to the deck..work away?

Mendes had 2 weeks prep and got plenty of reward in the 1st 2 rounds.  Is mcgregor capable of beating Aldo?  I'll definitely  watch it

Mendes would take him without too much trouble, he is two steps up from the lad he beat who only had two weeks to prepare for him, that said, McGregor was prepping for a man other than the lad he fought, still, I think McGregor is a couple of fights away from getting his arse handed to him, if he fights the best, he has a lethal left paw and I think he would be a tremendous boxer if he ever had the mind to try it.

I could see the boxing community reach out to him for big bucks in a three fight deal with the third being a title shot, what have they to lose, they have killed the sport and he would inject some life into the sport that is far superior to the shite he is fighting in now when done right.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: finbar o tool on July 14, 2015, 09:44:36 AM
why do some people feel the need to comment here if they don't like the sport?!
And Kimmage can f**k right off. if he doesn't like it he doesn't have to watch it.
appreciate the fact that it is MMA, Mixed Martial Arts. pitting different styles of martial arts against each other to see what/who comes out on top, its genius! and highly entertaining, people are sick to the teeth of watching 2 boxers run around after each other or hug each other for half an hour, remember that "fight of the century" between Mayweather and Pacquiao?! What a load of shite!!
and what did they earn for that? Mayweather made about 100 million or something stupid like that, for running around! at least there is some action in the UFC.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on July 14, 2015, 10:05:19 AM
Quote from: stew on July 14, 2015, 04:05:54 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on July 13, 2015, 11:01:57 PM
Just watched the mcgregor fight on 3e. I've seen the odd clip here and there.  It's a mad sport.  Vicious in the extreme.  After watching the way mcgregor conducted himself during the fight and after I'd have respect for the man.  All I knew was the trash talk and lack of respect for Aldo etc.

A couple of questions though to the ufc men on here.

What's the craic with the elbows to the the face and top of the head when you've a man pinned to the deck..work away?

Mendes had 2 weeks prep and got plenty of reward in the 1st 2 rounds.  Is mcgregor capable of beating Aldo?  I'll definitely  watch it

Mendes would take him without too much trouble, he is two steps up from the lad he beat who only had two weeks to prepare for him, that said, McGregor was prepping for a man other than the lad he fought, still, I think McGregor is a couple of fights away from getting his arse handed to him, if he fights the best, he has a lethal left paw and I think he would be a tremendous boxer if he ever had the mind to try it.

I could see the boxing community reach out to him for big bucks in a three fight deal with the third being a title shot, what have they to lose, they have killed the sport and he would inject some life into the sport that is far superior to the shite he is fighting in now when done right.

Eh. Mendes is the lad he beat.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on July 14, 2015, 11:15:29 AM
Lol some serious hate for CMG.

I just normally avoid something I dont like.

Simple enough.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on July 14, 2015, 11:23:00 AM
In fairness it's hard to avoid Conor McGregor-mania :)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 14, 2015, 01:26:25 PM
Quote from: finbar o tool on July 14, 2015, 09:44:36 AM
why do some people feel the need to comment here if they don't like the sport?!
And Kimmage can f**k right off. if he doesn't like it he doesn't have to watch it.
appreciate the fact that it is MMA, Mixed Martial Arts. pitting different styles of martial arts against each other to see what/who comes out on top, its genius! and highly entertaining, people are sick to the teeth of watching 2 boxers run around after each other or hug each other for half an hour, remember that "fight of the century" between Mayweather and Pacquiao?! What a load of shite!!
and what did they earn for that? Mayweather made about 100 million or something stupid like that, for running around! at least there is some action in the UFC.

Because it's a discussion board and people are allowed voice their opinion on it. How many posters have come on here with a Kimmage-esque rant.

Plenty of MMA fights are shite and incredibly boring. When Mendes was on top and throwing the occasional elbow, that wasn't entertaining or skillful, it was just stalemate.

My major issues with the sport are its lax (but improving) attitude to drugs, the treatment of some of its fighters (little more than chattel at times) and its toleration of yobs like those who turned up at the Convention Centre in Dublin simply to act the maggot and abuse a genius like Jose Aldo.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 14, 2015, 01:27:03 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 14, 2015, 11:23:00 AM
In fairness it's hard to avoid Conor McGregor-mania :)
No-one loves a bandwagon more than the Irish. Croke Park, if and when it happens, will be packed. What percentage are there for the drink only is anyone's guess!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: joemamas on July 14, 2015, 02:25:46 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 13, 2015, 11:38:08 AM
Just had a look at the fight there. Wouldn't be my thing at all. A lad hammering elbows into another lads eye socket is something you'd expect outside the Bullring in Tralee, or at 4am outside a nightclub, not something I would class as sport, but sure everyone to their own.

McGregor I dislike his public persona a lot. I don't like that sort of self aggrandising approach, but I realise why he does it and I'm willing to believe he's not like that in real life. However, whatever about his posturing and nonsense talking, he's a brave little divil. That was a lot of punishment he took, and he stood up well. He actually looks like he could be a decent boxer too, that's a big left hand he has there.

Best part for me though was Sinead O'Connor singing the Foggy Dew. Talk about hair raising. (no pun intended Sinead!).

I'm glad everyone had a good time, and I'm glad he won, but I won't be mad to watch his next fight either. In contrast i'll probably buy a ticket for Andy Lee in Thomond Park.

Agree 100%. Not my idea of a sport. Just what Ireland needs, this to become mainstream. Throw in a bellyful of Alcohol or whatever, and you may need body armour leaving a lot of various city premises after midnight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 14, 2015, 03:51:28 PM
Quote from: joemamas on July 14, 2015, 02:25:46 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 13, 2015, 11:38:08 AM
Just had a look at the fight there. Wouldn't be my thing at all. A lad hammering elbows into another lads eye socket is something you'd expect outside the Bullring in Tralee, or at 4am outside a nightclub, not something I would class as sport, but sure everyone to their own.

McGregor I dislike his public persona a lot. I don't like that sort of self aggrandising approach, but I realise why he does it and I'm willing to believe he's not like that in real life. However, whatever about his posturing and nonsense talking, he's a brave little divil. That was a lot of punishment he took, and he stood up well. He actually looks like he could be a decent boxer too, that's a big left hand he has there.

Best part for me though was Sinead O'Connor singing the Foggy Dew. Talk about hair raising. (no pun intended Sinead!).

I'm glad everyone had a good time, and I'm glad he won, but I won't be mad to watch his next fight either. In contrast i'll probably buy a ticket for Andy Lee in Thomond Park.

Agree 100%. Not my idea of a sport. Just what Ireland needs, this to become mainstream. Throw in a bellyful of Alcohol or whatever, and you may need body armour leaving a lot of various city premises after midnight.

Are you even a little bit serious? Because if you are it's hard not to laugh.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on July 14, 2015, 06:28:32 PM
I'm not hugely into UFC and don't fully understand the ins and outs of it, but I get the impression that Jose Aldo doesn't like Conor McGregor very much........

On Brazilian 'Rock Bola' radio, Jose Aldo went on an epic rant on Conor McGregor, and what he was going to to do the newly crowned interim featherweight champion.

Here is the translated version:

"I am not going to only beat McGregor up: I am going to make an example out of him. I am going to beat up this son of a bitch so bad that he won't be able to open his mouth to say his shits for more than one month. I am going to break the jaw of this cuckolded son of a bitch in three parts. The ********* fans of that cuckold and the UFC will regret having put that ****tard to fight me because I am going to blow out his little star. I am going to blow out his little star. I've never felt so powerful in my life. Before breaking my rib I was knocking out light-heavyweights with body shots. I can't spar yet, but I am still punching and kicking with the same power. I won't even bother dodging McGregor's little punches and dancing fairy kicks: I will walk straight towards him and take away his manhood. Take his pride. Humiliate him. Swell up those ****-sucking lips of his. Good luck knocking me out, Cigano couldn't do it in full-contact boxing. But the most delightful will be to see the look on the faces of his racist Irish fans. Look at their faces after I have turned their national hero into a bottom-boy."
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on July 14, 2015, 07:57:31 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 14, 2015, 06:28:32 PM
I'm not hugely into UFC and don't fully understand the ins and outs of it, but I get the impression that Jose Aldo doesn't like Conor McGregor very much........

On Brazilian 'Rock Bola' radio, Jose Aldo went on an epic rant on Conor McGregor, and what he was going to to do the newly crowned interim featherweight champion.

Here is the translated version:

"I am not going to only beat McGregor up: I am going to make an example out of him. I am going to beat up this son of a bitch so bad that he won't be able to open his mouth to say his shits for more than one month. I am going to break the jaw of this cuckolded son of a bitch in three parts. The ********* fans of that cuckold and the UFC will regret having put that ****tard to fight me because I am going to blow out his little star. I am going to blow out his little star. I've never felt so powerful in my life. Before breaking my rib I was knocking out light-heavyweights with body shots. I can't spar yet, but I am still punching and kicking with the same power. I won't even bother dodging McGregor's little punches and dancing fairy kicks: I will walk straight towards him and take away his manhood. Take his pride. Humiliate him. Swell up those ****-sucking lips of his. Good luck knocking me out, Cigano couldn't do it in full-contact boxing. But the most delightful will be to see the look on the faces of his racist Irish fans. Look at their faces after I have turned their national hero into a bottom-boy."

Did Aldo used to be a Finance Minister in Greece?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 15, 2015, 03:20:36 AM
It's fake.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on July 15, 2015, 04:33:00 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 14, 2015, 10:05:19 AM
Quote from: stew on July 14, 2015, 04:05:54 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on July 13, 2015, 11:01:57 PM
Just watched the mcgregor fight on 3e. I've seen the odd clip here and there.  It's a mad sport.  Vicious in the extreme.  After watching the way mcgregor conducted himself during the fight and after I'd have respect for the man.  All I knew was the trash talk and lack of respect for Aldo etc.

A couple of questions though to the ufc men on here.

What's the craic with the elbows to the the face and top of the head when you've a man pinned to the deck..work away?

Mendes had 2 weeks prep and got plenty of reward in the 1st 2 rounds.  Is mcgregor capable of beating Aldo?  I'll definitely  watch it

Mendes would take him without too much trouble, he is two steps up from the lad he beat who only had two weeks to prepare for him, that said, McGregor was prepping for a man other than the lad he fought, still, I think McGregor is a couple of fights away from getting his arse handed to him, if he fights the best, he has a lethal left paw and I think he would be a tremendous boxer if he ever had the mind to try it.

I could see the boxing community reach out to him for big bucks in a three fight deal with the third being a title shot, what have they to lose, they have killed the sport and he would inject some life into the sport that is far superior to the shite he is fighting in now when done right.

Eh. Mendes is the lad he beat.

Sorry I meant Aldo.

If ever a man is destined for a batin it is McGregor, I know a lot of it is publicity shite but he is going to get his head handed to him in the next couple of fights.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on July 15, 2015, 04:40:15 PM
I was in Vegas for the whole build up and post fight and I have to tell you - I knew very little about the UFC and admitted that to any Americans asking during my stay, in fact I only got tickets cos the boys with me were all going.

But the atmosphere was absolutely electric, it honestly equalled my own counties' 3 all ireland triumphs. There was absolutely no trouble, no fights broke out, and we were in the middle of the whole ruckus and singing in the MGM casino, both after the weigh in and after the fight. Everyone was united and had a tricolour on their back, and the Americans staying in Vegas were amazed, in complete awe of the support McGregor had behind him. It was a pretty mad week, and it really changed my perception of the UFC, pre-fight I also thought it was a brutal sport, whilst it still is, these are top, top athletes who have prepared hard in training both physically and mentally, who are going right to the death, I mean come on, you can't tell me on here that the Lawler vs MacDonald fight wasn't brilliant?

That's my 2 cents worth!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 16, 2015, 05:59:47 AM
good report there glad you got to go! Been to a few live events but havent made it to a McGregor card yet  - I wouldn't be a big fan of going to vegas so unless he fights somewhere else I'll most likely miss out...
Welcome to the sport - keep watching!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 18, 2015, 07:53:29 PM
UFC in glasgow tonight lads - some good fights already over but 2 potentially great scraps coming up now in next few minutes.
Nice warm up before Frampton...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: heganboy on October 22, 2015, 02:22:59 PM
Laughed my are off at this one
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/333df63d41a58aa4c2039d05d636a198c3e8cc36/0_33_548_328/master/548.jpg?w=620&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&s=ae6cea0b3b0b83e52db3e3befa754eb6)

Reebok have pulled it this morning after CMG's manager berated them and threatened to pull the sponsorship deal if it wasn't removed immediately...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 22, 2015, 02:32:06 PM
Bit mad from Kavanagh I thought. Announces partnership Tuesday, threatens to cancel it Thursday.

Daft from Reebok though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on October 22, 2015, 02:43:05 PM
Quote from: heganboy on October 22, 2015, 02:22:59 PM
Laughed my are off at this one
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/333df63d41a58aa4c2039d05d636a198c3e8cc36/0_33_548_328/master/548.jpg?w=620&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&s=ae6cea0b3b0b83e52db3e3befa754eb6)

Reebok have pulled it this morning after CMG's manager berated them and threatened to pull the sponsorship deal if it wasn't removed immediately...

designed in Laois apparently
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on October 22, 2015, 04:23:50 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on October 22, 2015, 02:43:05 PM
Quote from: heganboy on October 22, 2015, 02:22:59 PM
Laughed my are off at this one
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/333df63d41a58aa4c2039d05d636a198c3e8cc36/0_33_548_328/master/548.jpg?w=620&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&s=ae6cea0b3b0b83e52db3e3befa754eb6)

Reebok have pulled it this morning after CMG's manager berated them and threatened to pull the sponsorship deal if it wasn't removed immediately...

designed in Laois apparently

That's about right!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 15, 2015, 06:09:41 AM
Ronda Rousey defeated, knocked clean out tonight. Must be one of the biggest shocks in the history of UFC. Great performance by Holly Holm.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on November 15, 2015, 08:10:58 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 15, 2015, 06:09:41 AM
Ronda Rousey defeated, knocked clean out tonight. Must be one of the biggest shocks in the history of UFC. Great performance by Holly Holm.

She was annihilated swinging at air on a few occasions as well. The hype machine is a bad job for fighters it wouldn't surprise me to see the same end to McGregor against Aldo!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 15, 2015, 10:00:44 AM
Quote from: screenexile on November 15, 2015, 08:10:58 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 15, 2015, 06:09:41 AM
Ronda Rousey defeated, knocked clean out tonight. Must be one of the biggest shocks in the history of UFC. Great performance by Holly Holm.

She was annihilated swinging at air on a few occasions as well. The hype machine is a bad job for fighters it wouldn't surprise me to see the same end to McGregor against Aldo!!
Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 15, 2015, 12:54:11 PM
No fluke either, she had a game plan, stuck to it and it tore Rousey apart. Rousey's corner were awful. She was chasing around like a bull, getting tagged repeatedly and absolutely knackered because of it. The corner told her to keep it up.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on November 15, 2015, 01:26:06 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on October 22, 2015, 02:43:05 PM
Quote from: heganboy on October 22, 2015, 02:22:59 PM
Laughed my are off at this one
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/333df63d41a58aa4c2039d05d636a198c3e8cc36/0_33_548_328/master/548.jpg?w=620&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&s=ae6cea0b3b0b83e52db3e3befa754eb6)

Reebok have pulled it this morning after CMG's manager berated them and threatened to pull the sponsorship deal if it wasn't removed immediately...

designed in Laois apparently
I bought one on eBay earlier.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: blewuporstuffed on November 15, 2015, 11:34:09 PM
Ronda Rousey got her ass handed to her last night
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on November 16, 2015, 09:36:00 AM
Quote from: screenexile on November 15, 2015, 08:10:58 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 15, 2015, 06:09:41 AM
Ronda Rousey defeated, knocked clean out tonight. Must be one of the biggest shocks in the history of UFC. Great performance by Holly Holm.

She was annihilated swinging at air on a few occasions as well. The hype machine is a bad job for fighters it wouldn't surprise me to see the same end to McGregor against Aldo!!

watched the fight yesterday. The gulf in class was huge. Through Entourage, calling out Mayweather etc I knew who Rousey was. What I don't understand was how she was the (supposed) numero uno in a combat sport when she has  zero defence ! Your one Holm had a free pass to Rousey's jaw all bout.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on November 16, 2015, 11:10:53 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 16, 2015, 09:36:00 AM
Quote from: screenexile on November 15, 2015, 08:10:58 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 15, 2015, 06:09:41 AM
Ronda Rousey defeated, knocked clean out tonight. Must be one of the biggest shocks in the history of UFC. Great performance by Holly Holm.

She was annihilated swinging at air on a few occasions as well. The hype machine is a bad job for fighters it wouldn't surprise me to see the same end to McGregor against Aldo!!

watched the fight yesterday. The gulf in class was huge. Through Entourage, calling out Mayweather etc I knew who Rousey was. What I don't understand was how she was the (supposed) numero uno in a combat sport when she has  zero defence ! Your one Holm had a free pass to Rousey's jaw all bout.

If you'd seen her previous fights she has been electric. Nobody else had troubled her in the slightest and with her judo skills and being an Olympic champion it helped her to get the big name.

Holm was supposed to be the true test of Rousey's boxing skills and she failed spectacularly. This will set her back a long way she's going to have to beat Holm in a rematch to regain her credibility.

Having said that the time and experience it would take to get to that level I just don't think is possible. She was totally out thought, out classed and out fought!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on November 22, 2015, 10:38:25 AM
Holly Holm vs Ronda Rousey FULL FIGHT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPSxWcZ-WoY

Jon Jones on teammate, new UFC champ Holly Holm: GOAT of women's combat sports http://mmajunkie.com/2015/11/jon-jones-on-teammate-new-ufc-champ-holly-holm-goat-of-womens-combat-sports
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 22, 2015, 10:51:03 AM
Great article here about the hype over Rousey and some of the nonsense spouted around her dominance. ESPN were proclaiming her the greatest female athlete ever ffs!

https://the-cauldron.com/the-end-of-an-error-cbac04dc4a98#.gjgoxhg4g
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: on the sideline on December 11, 2015, 05:15:18 PM
Lads any rough idea what time the McGregor fight is scheduled for on Saturday night/Sunday morning?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 11, 2015, 05:37:48 PM
Quote from: on the sideline on December 11, 2015, 05:15:18 PM
Lads any rough idea what time the McGregor fight is scheduled for on Saturday night/Sunday morning?

The bill starts 7pm pacific (3am in Ireland). 4 fights on the card before McGregor's so depending on the length of them I would hazard a guess at around 5/6am maybe
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: on the sideline on December 11, 2015, 05:55:24 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 11, 2015, 05:37:48 PM
Quote from: on the sideline on December 11, 2015, 05:15:18 PM
Lads any rough idea what time the McGregor fight is scheduled for on Saturday night/Sunday morning?

The bill starts 7pm pacific (3am in Ireland). 4 fights on the card before McGregor's so depending on the length of them I would hazard a guess at around 5/6am maybe

Good man. Should be home in good time for it then!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 11, 2015, 06:09:37 PM
3 nights of fights lads - last night look for Tim Means versus Jon Howard - great standup scrap. Then Mike Chiesa versus Jim Miller for great grappling match. Then Paige VanZant versus Rose Namajunas for a 5 rd WAR.
Tonight is the Ultimate Fighter Finale - Edgar versus Mendes should be great fight to watch and Tony Fegruson versus Edson Barboza is my pic for fight of the night.

McGregor card has some unreal fights - the whole thing is worth watching!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: macdanger2 on December 11, 2015, 06:21:06 PM
What (if any) chance has mcgregor of winning?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 11, 2015, 06:36:29 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on December 11, 2015, 06:09:37 PM
3 nights of fights lads - last night look for Tim Means versus Jon Howard - great standup scrap. Then Mike Chiesa versus Jim Miller for great grappling match. Then Paige VanZant versus Rose Namajunas for a 5 rd WAR.
Tonight is the Ultimate Fighter Finale - Edgar versus Mendes should be great fight to watch and Tony Fegruson versus Edson Barboza is my pic for fight of the night.

McGregor card has some unreal fights - the whole thing is worth watching!

Is the Edgar Mendes fight just on Fox Sports or is part of the  pay per view package?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on December 11, 2015, 06:53:34 PM
He is bigger and stronger and should keep Aldo at bay as much as possible, Aldo is lightning fast and his movement is the best the sport has probably ever seen.

I thought Aldo would win this all along and McGregors last fight to me was unimpressive because he was fighting a replacement fighter, he probably relaxed a bit but I think he will be very much up for this and he is definitely the fitter fighter, that, and Aldo's extended break leads me to believe that McGregor can win if he gets after Aldo right from the get go, not let him settle into the fight, the man has not been beaten in a decade but I have changed my mind, McGregor to win in spectacular fashion in the forth.


After all of that, it would not surprise me if this was over inside of five minutes either way.

Finally, I want McGregor to win because of the Irish angle, if I were a yank or French or any other nationality I would want Aldo to win, it should be one of the best fights ever but you never know.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 11, 2015, 07:06:13 PM
Quote from: stew on December 11, 2015, 06:53:34 PM


I thought Aldo would win this all along and McGregors last fight to me was unimpressive because he was fighting a replacement fighter,

Does this not work both ways though? McGregor was training to fight Aldo, then he had 3 weeks or so to change his training style to focus on Mendes. I don't know.

As for who wins, I don't know. I have only got into UFC in the last year or so, so don't know enough about it. What i do know is I love McGregor, yes he's not going to be everyones cup of tea but so far he has backed everything up he has said with performances in the cage.

I have butterflies in my stomach at the thought of the fight tomorrow night. Feck I am even nervous watching the Ulimate Fighter fights when is Europe v USA. So glad to see Artem knock that cocky f**k out on Wednesday night.

I have to pick the oul pair up from SFO airport at 3.30p so will be hauling ass back to Fresno to get out for it
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on December 11, 2015, 07:16:33 PM
Does a UFC fight go to judges after the rounds? ( if no KO)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: on the sideline on December 11, 2015, 07:27:38 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on December 11, 2015, 06:09:37 PM
3 nights of fights lads - last night look for Tim Means versus Jon Howard - great standup scrap. Then Mike Chiesa versus Jim Miller for great grappling match. Then Paige VanZant versus Rose Namajunas for a 5 rd WAR.
Tonight is the Ultimate Fighter Finale - Edgar versus Mendes should be great fight to watch and Tony Fegruson versus Edson Barboza is my pic for fight of the night.

McGregor card has some unreal fights - the whole thing is worth watching!

Anyone know what time these ones are on at here and are they on BT Sport?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 11, 2015, 07:53:47 PM
Quote from: on the sideline on December 11, 2015, 07:27:38 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on December 11, 2015, 06:09:37 PM
3 nights of fights lads - last night look for Tim Means versus Jon Howard - great standup scrap. Then Mike Chiesa versus Jim Miller for great grappling match. Then Paige VanZant versus Rose Namajunas for a 5 rd WAR.
Tonight is the Ultimate Fighter Finale - Edgar versus Mendes should be great fight to watch and Tony Fegruson versus Edson Barboza is my pic for fight of the night.

McGregor card has some unreal fights - the whole thing is worth watching!

Anyone know what time these ones are on at here and are they on BT Sport?

Looks to be similar times to what I mentioned earlier, only today (or tomorrow morning for you!)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 11, 2015, 08:36:53 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 11, 2015, 06:36:29 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on December 11, 2015, 06:09:37 PM
3 nights of fights lads - last night look for Tim Means versus Jon Howard - great standup scrap. Then Mike Chiesa versus Jim Miller for great grappling match. Then Paige VanZant versus Rose Namajunas for a 5 rd WAR.
Tonight is the Ultimate Fighter Finale - Edgar versus Mendes should be great fight to watch and Tony Fegruson versus Edson Barboza is my pic for fight of the night.

McGregor card has some unreal fights - the whole thing is worth watching!

Is the Edgar Mendes fight just on Fox Sports or is part of the  pay per view package?
different altogether - will be on Fox Sports 1 - if you don't have the channel you'll find something on streamhunter or something similar
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on December 11, 2015, 08:48:07 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 11, 2015, 07:06:13 PM
Quote from: stew on December 11, 2015, 06:53:34 PM


I thought Aldo would win this all along and McGregors last fight to me was unimpressive because he was fighting a replacement fighter,

Does this not work both ways though? McGregor was training to fight Aldo, then he had 3 weeks or so to change his training style to focus on Mendes. I don't know.

As for who wins, I don't know. I have only got into UFC in the last year or so, so don't know enough about it. What i do know is I love McGregor, yes he's not going to be everyones cup of tea but so far he has backed everything up he has said with performances in the cage.

I have butterflies in my stomach at the thought of the fight tomorrow night. Feck I am even nervous watching the Ulimate Fighter fights when is Europe v USA. So glad to see Artem knock that cocky f**k out on Wednesday night.

I have to pick the oul pair up from SFO airport at 3.30p so will be hauling ass back to Fresno to get out for it

Good first point, that said yer man tired and was obviously not at his best shape wise.

If under pressure stop at a Buffalo Wild Wings and watch for free.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 11, 2015, 10:11:57 PM
Quote from: stew on December 11, 2015, 08:48:07 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 11, 2015, 07:06:13 PM
Quote from: stew on December 11, 2015, 06:53:34 PM


I thought Aldo would win this all along and McGregors last fight to me was unimpressive because he was fighting a replacement fighter,

Does this not work both ways though? McGregor was training to fight Aldo, then he had 3 weeks or so to change his training style to focus on Mendes. I don't know.

As for who wins, I don't know. I have only got into UFC in the last year or so, so don't know enough about it. What i do know is I love McGregor, yes he's not going to be everyones cup of tea but so far he has backed everything up he has said with performances in the cage.

I have butterflies in my stomach at the thought of the fight tomorrow night. Feck I am even nervous watching the Ulimate Fighter fights when is Europe v USA. So glad to see Artem knock that cocky f**k out on Wednesday night.

I have to pick the oul pair up from SFO airport at 3.30p so will be hauling ass back to Fresno to get out for it

Good first point, that said yer man tired and was obviously not at his best shape wise.

If under pressure stop at a Buffalo Wild Wings and watch for free.

Cheers I'll either be heading to a local bar or to a friends house.

Quote from: The Iceman on December 11, 2015, 08:36:53 PM

different altogether - will be on Fox Sports 1 - if you don't have the channel you'll find something on streamhunter or something similar

I have it, so that shall be watched tonight!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 11, 2015, 11:56:17 PM
Thought the weigh in would've been more eventful
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on December 12, 2015, 03:09:07 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 11, 2015, 07:06:13 PM
Quote from: stew on December 11, 2015, 06:53:34 PM


I thought Aldo would win this all along and McGregors last fight to me was unimpressive because he was fighting a replacement fighter,

Does this not work both ways though? McGregor was training to fight Aldo, then he had 3 weeks or so to change his training style to focus on Mendes. I don't know.

As for who wins, I don't know. I have only got into UFC in the last year or so, so don't know enough about it. What i do know is I love McGregor, yes he's not going to be everyones cup of tea but so far he has backed everything up he has said with performances in the cage.

I have butterflies in my stomach at the thought of the fight tomorrow night. Feck I am even nervous watching the Ulimate Fighter fights when is Europe v USA. So glad to see Artem knock that cocky f**k out on Wednesday night.

I have to pick the oul pair up from SFO airport at 3.30p so will be hauling ass back to Fresno to get out for it

TBH dont like UFC at all, despise McGregor and hope it gets his ass handed to him tomorrow night.

On another point be careful on that 152, was on it a couple of weeks back and there was a serious smash on it, happens regularly apparently
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 12, 2015, 05:57:06 AM
Cheers boss. Aye I've seen about 3 major accidents on that road. They drive like fcukin maniacs going down the hill. Looks to be giving a dry day, as it's an absolute bitch in the rain and spray.

Mendes fight just about to start
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 12, 2015, 06:09:42 AM
Well that was over quick
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 12, 2015, 12:49:20 PM
McGregor looked f**king ill on the scales. 145 must be am absolute nightmare for him these days.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 12, 2015, 01:53:33 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 11, 2015, 11:55:48 PM
I was in Aldo's earlier. McGregor is going to get battered apparently.

;D ;D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on December 12, 2015, 02:41:58 PM
The woman commentator @ the weigh in "I don't think Jose looks scared"  wtf?

I'm not a ufc fan at all,  but I'm really looking forward to seeing how this one plays out.  Two hardy boys
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bridgegael on December 12, 2015, 02:53:47 PM
What time will the fight start
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on December 12, 2015, 02:55:00 PM
Quote from: bridgegael on December 12, 2015, 02:53:47 PM
What time will the fight start

5am they say
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 12, 2015, 04:00:19 PM
http://www.benchwarmers.ie/videos/the-full-irish-fans-qa-with-holly-holms-is-the-funniest-thing-youll-watch-today/34099/#.VmxEhUilacU
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Muck Savage on December 13, 2015, 12:40:18 AM
Aldo will win this. Would love to see Mac win but Aldo has played his cards well. Knew he would lose the original fight because wasn't prepared. Pulled out got ready and now will beat Mac. Mac was in his head for the first date but he spent since then blocking him out.
He's going to kick Macs legs all night long and just stay away from the big left. Macs legs I fear will be gone in rnd 3 and then Aldo will go at him. Mac's only chance is to go at him early and try finish early.
Aldo will chew him up once rnd 3 comes.
Can't remember who Aldo faught last year but he was on crutches for 2 weeks after the fight because of the leg kicks.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on December 13, 2015, 01:17:56 AM
Quote from: Muck Savage on December 13, 2015, 12:40:18 AM
Aldo will win this. Would love to see Mac win but Aldo has played his cards well. Knew he would lose the original fight because wasn't prepared. Pulled out got ready and now will beat Mac. Mac was in his head for the first date but he spent since then blocking him out.
He's going to kick Macs legs all night long and just stay away from the big left. Macs legs I fear will be gone in rnd 3 and then Aldo will go at him. Mac's only chance is to go at him early and try finish early.
Aldo will chew him up once rnd 3 comes.
Can't remember who Aldo faught last year but he was on crutches for 2 weeks after the fight because of the leg kicks.

McGregor has better stamina than Aldo who tends to tire in the latter rounds, if he can stay on his feet McGregor will win this but he would do well to attack from the get go, ring should  be a factor for a round or so  but after that Aldo will find his groove, the closer I get to this fight the more I cant shake off a sensational first round knockout with McGregor unconscious, I hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Ulick on December 13, 2015, 01:26:37 AM
Anyone know what time it's due to start? I had though 12 but have been sitting here like a la for the last hour and a half.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on December 13, 2015, 01:48:23 AM
I believe at 3:00 Am GMT.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on December 13, 2015, 02:04:23 AM
Quote from: Muck Savage on December 13, 2015, 12:40:18 AM
Aldo will win this. Would love to see Mac win but Aldo has played his cards well. Knew he would lose the original fight because wasn't prepared. Pulled out got ready and now will beat Mac. Mac was in his head for the first date but he spent since then blocking him out.
He's going to kick Macs legs all night long and just stay away from the big left. Macs legs I fear will be gone in rnd 3 and then Aldo will go at him. Mac's only chance is to go at him early and try finish early.
Aldo will chew him up once rnd 3 comes.
Can't remember who Aldo faught last year but he was on crutches for 2 weeks after the fight because of the leg kicks.

Not sure how much faith I can put in your tactical analysis if you don't know that was Urijah Faber
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 13, 2015, 05:31:22 AM
Can anyone explain why that fight wasn't stopped in the 3rd 3rd??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 05:33:02 AM
Dare say a few of yis are regretting not getting up instead of stayin up!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on December 13, 2015, 05:41:14 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 05:33:02 AM
Dare say a few of yis are regretting not getting up instead of stayin up!

I got up at 4am. Wish they'd just get it started here!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 05:46:27 AM
f**k that guy just got mutated...find that hard to watch.

McGregor on now
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 05:56:26 AM
OMG
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on December 13, 2015, 05:56:54 AM
Holy shit!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 13, 2015, 05:58:05 AM
Jesus Christ!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 05:58:22 AM
 :o :o
Feck me he'll be hard to listen to now
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 06:00:00 AM
13 sec
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 06:00:35 AM
Typifies why I don't like the sport, the guy was knocked clean out and McGregor can hammer away at him until the ref stops it
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 06:01:41 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 05:58:22 AM
:o :o
Feck me he'll be hard to listen to now

He backs his mouth up with his performances.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 13, 2015, 06:05:41 AM
Giving the fingers to the crowd after. He's some kn**ker....but a talented one!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 13, 2015, 06:08:52 AM
Woke up, had a pee, 13 seconds of a fight now back to bed.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 06:33:26 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 06:01:41 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 05:58:22 AM
:o :o
Feck me he'll be hard to listen to now

He backs his mouth up with his performances.

He does and that is probably the most annoying bit
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on December 13, 2015, 06:56:52 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 06:00:35 AM
Typifies why I don't like the sport, the guy was knocked clean out and McGregor can hammer away at him until the ref stops it

Did you see the fight before it? How it wasn't stopped in round 3 I'll never know!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 07:09:58 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 06:33:26 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 06:01:41 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 05:58:22 AM
:o :o
Feck me he'll be hard to listen to now

He backs his mouth up with his performances.

He does and that is probably the most annoying bit
.

I don't know the Irish usually play the plucky underdog shit the whole time. Yes he has a mouth, mostly before the fights ( he's usually a bit more gracious after) buts it's part of the act. I love it but can see why others don't.

Another sporting triumph from our wee Isle, something to be celebrated in my eyes
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 07:17:47 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on December 13, 2015, 06:56:52 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 06:00:35 AM
Typifies why I don't like the sport, the guy was knocked clean out and McGregor can hammer away at him until the ref stops it

Did you see the fight before it? How it wasn't stopped in round 3 I'll never know!

Just youtubed that it looked bad as well... but at least he was still conscious

Call me conservative or whatever you want but I always thought a man goin down was good enough reason for a fight to be suspended until its established if he is able, or wants to continue

I know there is multiple disciplines goin on and some of them involve floor combat or whatever but I dont think any of them allow striking on the floor do they?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 07:30:46 AM
Quote from: laoislad on December 13, 2015, 06:08:52 AM
Woke up, had a pee, 13 seconds of a fight now back to bed.

Be thankful you didn't need to have a shite!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on December 13, 2015, 07:56:56 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 07:09:58 AM
I don't know the Irish usually play the plucky underdog shit the whole time. Yes he has a mouth, mostly before the fights ( he's usually a bit more gracious after) buts it's part of the act. I love it but can see why others don't.

Another sporting triumph from our wee Isle, something to be celebrated in my eyes
+1. In the GAA especially, players live in terror of saying anything to the media that sounds remotely confident.

I know he couldn't give a toss and probably wouldn't show up to collect his award, but he is surely the Irish Sportstar of the Year.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 08:07:33 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 07:09:58 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 06:33:26 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 06:01:41 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 05:58:22 AM
:o :o
Feck me he'll be hard to listen to now

He backs his mouth up with his performances.

He does and that is probably the most annoying bit
.

I don't know the Irish usually play the plucky underdog shit the whole time. Yes he has a mouth, mostly before the fights ( he's usually a bit more gracious after) buts it's part of the act. I love it but can see why others don't.

Another sporting triumph from our wee Isle, something to be celebrated in my eyes

Ach aye fair play to him like, I know its BS but I just dont like his BS! And I dont see the fact that he comes from the same lump of dirt as myself as reason enuff to give him a pass on it.

But Im sure he's not too worreid about what i think and the wee hoor got me interested enuff in the fight to watch it :D

On another note I seen a rumour online that he was goin into the fight at 175lbs :o That is nothing short of unbelievable re-hydration?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bridgegael on December 13, 2015, 08:35:19 AM
Fair play to the lad, watched his interview he did in 2008, a world away from where he is now.  Delivered on everything. Like him or loathe him he is flying the flag for Irish sport. He is the number one fighter on the planet, I'll take that. 
Be proud that he is Irish
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 13, 2015, 09:50:14 AM
Quote from: bridgegael on December 13, 2015, 08:35:19 AM
Fair play to the lad, watched his interview he did in 2008, a world away from where he is now.  Delivered on everything. Like him or loathe him he is flying the flag for Irish sport. He is the number one fighter on the planet, I'll take that. 
Be proud that he is Irish

Couldn't get away from that this week. That and the time he stole the belts.

As for number one fighter on the planet, not at all.

I don't like him but fair play to him. Absolutely beautiful ko.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 13, 2015, 10:30:15 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on December 13, 2015, 07:56:56 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 07:09:58 AM
I don't know the Irish usually play the plucky underdog shit the whole time. Yes he has a mouth, mostly before the fights ( he's usually a bit more gracious after) buts it's part of the act. I love it but can see why others don't.

Another sporting triumph from our wee Isle, something to be celebrated in my eyes
+1. In the GAA especially, players live in terror of saying anything to the media that sounds remotely confident.

I know he couldn't give a toss and probably wouldn't show up to collect his award, but he is surely the Irish Sportstar of the Year.
Really? I think he would absolutely want to show up and collect such an award. I'd say it would actually mean an awful lot to him. Even if he couldn't be there I'd say he would still be happy to receive it.
I don't know very much about him(or the sport)but he seems a very proud Irishman, to be honoured as Irish sports star of the year would surely be something he'd love no?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on December 13, 2015, 11:16:14 AM
Just watched the fight there with not knowing the result.  Crazy.  Some punch.  Absolutely brutal sport.  To be honest,  until the ring walk in,  I wanted Aldo to win.  The music,  the flag, Mcgregor smiling, something changed my mind.   Money is the over riding factor in any ufc decision I'd say,  but surely there is bound to be a rematch?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 11:22:00 AM
 Watched a 5 minute YouTube video of mcgregor insulting/taunting Aldo  at various events.

I don't care if he is Irish! Tramps behaviour!

Pity he won!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ashman on December 13, 2015, 12:06:54 PM
A load of 5hite but fair play to CMG as he is coining .
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Boycey on December 13, 2015, 12:24:43 PM
In the aftermath as McGregor hangs off the cage he seems to me to be giving someone the finger, if so who was it...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on December 13, 2015, 12:46:44 PM
Quote from: Boycey on December 13, 2015, 12:24:43 PM
In the aftermath as McGregor hangs off the cage he seems to me to be giving someone the finger, if so who was it...

Aldo's granny probably
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on December 13, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 13, 2015, 01:02:24 PM
Very Mickey O'Neil from McGregor.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 13, 2015, 01:06:29 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 13, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.
The majority of the begrudgers are Nordie it seems.
Maybe he's from the wrong part of Ireland...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Boycey on December 13, 2015, 01:19:30 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 13, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

That'd be disappointing if true, in the moment of your biggest victory to be worried by something like that..
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on December 13, 2015, 02:05:14 PM
For me that egdes him marginally ahead of Rory as Top Irish Sportsman at the moment and undoubtedly should be Sportsperson of the Year.

Workrate, dedication and talent.

Really gets into his opponent's head too. At the weigh-in I thought the balance had tipped in Aldo's favour. He looked confident, and I thought McGregor looked a little nervous, maybe down to looking more gaunt than usual.

But fight night was the opposite. Aldo wouldnt even look at him and Conor was super relaxed. He has some power in that left hand.

In this game, his time will come when he will lose, and undoubtedly be hurt when it happens. But for now, he's nothing short of awesome
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 13, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on December 13, 2015, 02:22:50 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 13, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)
Very sensitive of you to get upset at him tearing up a picture of Aldo and throwing darts at a picture!!

He does what he does to sell fights and get under the skin of his opponent. As a lot of the best fighters throughout history have done. Anyone who takes it seriously should cop themselves on! Or did you believe he'd really ride on horseback in Rio and take the city down!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 02:32:04 PM
Quote from: Hound on December 13, 2015, 02:22:50 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 13, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)
Very sensitive of you to get upset at him tearing up a picture of Aldo and throwing darts at a picture!!

He does what he does to sell fights and get under the skin of his opponent. As a lot of the best fighters throughout history have done. Anyone who takes it seriously should cop themselves on! Or did you believe he'd really ride on horseback in Rio and take the city down!

  Watch the video FFS!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 13, 2015, 02:34:12 PM
Quote from: Hound on December 13, 2015, 02:05:14 PM
For me that egdes him marginally ahead of Rory as Top Irish Sportsman at the moment and undoubtedly should be Sportsperson of the Year.
Shane Lowry and Katie Taylor have had very good years also,but yeah I think McGregor should get it.
It's great Lowry,McGregor and Taylor all from Ireland doing well in their chosen sport on a world stage.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 13, 2015, 02:37:55 PM
Lowry isn't even the best golfer in Ireland.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 13, 2015, 03:00:38 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 13, 2015, 02:37:55 PM
Lowry isn't even the best golfer in Ireland.
What you on about sheepshagger? I said he's had a great year, which he has,and that he's also doing well on the world stage, which he is.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 03:03:54 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 13, 2015, 03:00:38 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 13, 2015, 02:37:55 PM
Lowry isn't even the best golfer in Ireland.
What you on about sheepshagger? I said he's had a great year, which he has,and that he's also doing well on the world stage, which he is.

Depends on your definition of great
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 03:06:09 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 13, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)

You've had Tyrone players who ran dog fighting clubs. Were you proud of them?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 13, 2015, 03:27:41 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 03:03:54 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 13, 2015, 03:00:38 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 13, 2015, 02:37:55 PM
Lowry isn't even the best golfer in Ireland.
What you on about sheepshagger? I said he's had a great year, which he has,and that he's also doing well on the world stage, which he is.

Depends on your definition of great
Well obviously he can't compete with you and your 57 All Ireland winners medals.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 03:39:08 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 13, 2015, 03:27:41 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 03:03:54 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 13, 2015, 03:00:38 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 13, 2015, 02:37:55 PM
Lowry isn't even the best golfer in Ireland.
What you on about sheepshagger? I said he's had a great year, which he has,and that he's also doing well on the world stage, which he is.

Depends on your definition of great
Well obviously he can't compete with you and your 57 All Ireland winners medals.

We can leave it 5 rather than 57. Don't want to boast
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on December 13, 2015, 03:40:08 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 03:06:09 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 13, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)

You've had Tyrone players who ran dog fighting clubs. Were you proud of them?

Classy as usual.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on December 13, 2015, 03:41:13 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 13, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)

(https://usatmmajunkie.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/jose-aldo-conor-joker-poster.jpg?w=1000)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 04:18:20 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 03:06:09 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 13, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)

You've had Tyrone players who ran dog fighting clubs. Were you proud of them?

One  player who I knew of !     Who were the others?

Why in under God would I be proud of him or them, as you say?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 04:19:05 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on December 13, 2015, 03:41:13 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 13, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)

(https://usatmmajunkie.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/jose-aldo-conor-joker-poster.jpg?w=1000)

Don't understand the relevance of this picture!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 06:22:21 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 04:18:20 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 03:06:09 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 13, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)

You've had Tyrone players who ran dog fighting clubs. Were you proud of them?

One  player who I knew of !     Who were the others?

Why in under God would I be proud of him or them, as you say?

If Mc gregor was from Tyrone you'd like him. He's a superstar and actually a nice guy outside the ring if you ever actually met him.

Humble and very down to earth. Looks after his family, trains like a monk, doesn't fall out of pubs and nightclubs pissed as a fart absuing everyone around them like a lot of top intercounty players - etc.

Trash talk has been around since Ali. You're going into a ring with another guy who wants to kick the shit out of you. You're unlikely to spend the press conferences beforehand playing Connect 4 with your opponent.

He's a lot nicer then some of the GAA players I know.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on December 13, 2015, 06:32:13 PM
yous do know UFC isnt even a real sport lads, it doesnt even come close to WWE. sheamus for irish sportsman of the year!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 06:33:52 PM
Jesus Christ Indie wud ye calm down the lad won I'm sure he's not too worried about what the general public thinks of him, next thing you'll be doing is blaming this on one of Mickey Harte's conspiracies

His promotional antics are probably just that but its the image he projects to the world, and it aint the nice family guy image you're talking about. Are you really surprised some/alot of people dont like it? Im sure McGregor was well aware that it would divide opinion and get people talking,which is also a big part of the reason that he puts on the persona.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: annapr on December 13, 2015, 06:53:25 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 06:22:21 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 04:18:20 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 03:06:09 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 13, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)

You've had Tyrone players who ran dog fighting clubs. Were you proud of them?

One  player who I knew of !     Who were the others?

Why in under God would I be proud of him or them, as you say?

If Mc gregor was from Tyrone you'd like him. He's a superstar and actually a nice guy outside the ring if you ever actually met him.

Humble and very down to earth. Looks after his family, trains like a monk, doesn't fall out of pubs and nightclubs pissed as a fart absuing everyone around them like a lot of top intercounty players - etc.

Trash talk has been around since Ali. You're going into a ring with another guy who wants to kick the shit out of you. You're unlikely to spend the press conferences beforehand playing Connect 4 with your opponent.

He's a lot nicer then some of the GAA players I know.
And if he wasn't from Dublin you wouldn't be defending him ;D
You're both as bad as each other.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on December 13, 2015, 07:09:19 PM
Fights have to be sold,  a bit of slagging and goading is grand,  but mcgregor goes way beyond,  and certain people think he's a c**k because of it. Don't think begrudery comes into it, they just don't like McGregor,  much like alot of my English friends at uni thought Eubank was a tool. 

I'd say the same boys giving mcgregor a hard time were nearly jumping into the ring / TV when Collins was fighting Eubank for example.  'it's not where your from,  it's where your at'
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 07:42:46 PM
Quote from: annapr on December 13, 2015, 06:53:25 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 06:22:21 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 04:18:20 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 03:06:09 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 13, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)

You've had Tyrone players who ran dog fighting clubs. Were you proud of them?

One  player who I knew of !     Who were the others?

Why in under God would I be proud of him or them, as you say?

If Mc gregor was from Tyrone you'd like him. He's a superstar and actually a nice guy outside the ring if you ever actually met him.

Humble and very down to earth. Looks after his family, trains like a monk, doesn't fall out of pubs and nightclubs pissed as a fart absuing everyone around them like a lot of top intercounty players - etc.

Trash talk has been around since Ali. You're going into a ring with another guy who wants to kick the shit out of you. You're unlikely to spend the press conferences beforehand playing Connect 4 with your opponent.

He's a lot nicer then some of the GAA players I know.
And if he wasn't from Dublin you wouldn't be defending him ;D
You're both as bad as each other.

Hope you are not referring to me there.

I never said I would support him if he was from Tyrone. In fact I would not. I would be ashamed!

The video which I pasted above contains inexcusable behaviour from McGregor. Who in their right mind would attempt yo justify such behaviour. Does he need to do it? Can he not just depend on his skills inside the cage to do his talking for him.

Barry McGuigan didn't resort to such and he became World Champion!



Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 13, 2015, 07:59:32 PM
I like the wind up merchants and trash talkers in all sports so I love watching McGregor. If you're the sort of person who can't listen to the likes of Mayweather and McGregor then you are obviously not going to like him.  Not a big fan of UFC, I can take it or leave it but I will always watch his interviews and press conferences as they're hilarious. He is playing the pantomime villain role to perfection, look at how much attention he gets! He is one of the main men in sport at the moment and is even on the front of the UFC computer game now ffs.  One thing that can't be denied is of how proud he is to be Irish. I say fair play to the fella. Started with very little and a few years later he is a multi millionaire superstar.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on December 13, 2015, 08:59:20 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 13, 2015, 10:30:15 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on December 13, 2015, 07:56:56 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 07:09:58 AM
I don't know the Irish usually play the plucky underdog shit the whole time. Yes he has a mouth, mostly before the fights ( he's usually a bit more gracious after) buts it's part of the act. I love it but can see why others don't.

Another sporting triumph from our wee Isle, something to be celebrated in my eyes
+1. In the GAA especially, players live in terror of saying anything to the media that sounds remotely confident.

I know he couldn't give a toss and probably wouldn't show up to collect his award, but he is surely the Irish Sportstar of the Year.
Really? I think he would absolutely want to show up and collect such an award. I'd say it would actually mean an awful lot to him. Even if he couldn't be there I'd say he would still be happy to receive it.
I don't know very much about him(or the sport)but he seems a very proud Irishman, to be honoured as Irish sports star of the year would surely be something he'd love no?
Maybe he would, but he'll be a busy man and my guess is that we'd get  a "Unfortunately Conor can't be here..........but he did send us this video........". You're right though, it probably would mean something to him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 13, 2015, 09:43:07 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 07:42:46 PM
Quote from: annapr on December 13, 2015, 06:53:25 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 06:22:21 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 04:18:20 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 03:06:09 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 13, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)

You've had Tyrone players who ran dog fighting clubs. Were you proud of them?

One  player who I knew of !     Who were the others?

Why in under God would I be proud of him or them, as you say?

If Mc gregor was from Tyrone you'd like him. He's a superstar and actually a nice guy outside the ring if you ever actually met him.

Humble and very down to earth. Looks after his family, trains like a monk, doesn't fall out of pubs and nightclubs pissed as a fart absuing everyone around them like a lot of top intercounty players - etc.

Trash talk has been around since Ali. You're going into a ring with another guy who wants to kick the shit out of you. You're unlikely to spend the press conferences beforehand playing Connect 4 with your opponent.

He's a lot nicer then some of the GAA players I know.
And if he wasn't from Dublin you wouldn't be defending him ;D
You're both as bad as each other.

Hope you are not referring to me there.

I never said I would support him if he was from Tyrone. In fact I would not. I would be ashamed!

The video which I pasted above contains inexcusable behaviour from McGregor. Who in their right mind would attempt yo justify such behaviour. Does he need to do it? Can he not just depend on his skills inside the cage to do his talking for him.

Barry McGuigan didn't resort to such and he became World Champion!

**Cough cough ** What about Ricey??

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 09:54:27 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 09:54:27 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 13, 2015, 10:17:49 PM
Quote from: Hound on December 13, 2015, 02:05:14 PM
For me that egdes him marginally ahead of Rory as Top Irish Sportsman at the moment and undoubtedly should be Sportsperson of the Year.

Workrate, dedication and talent.

Really gets into his opponent's head too. At the weigh-in I thought the balance had tipped in Aldo's favour. He looked confident, and I thought McGregor looked a little nervous, maybe down to looking more gaunt than usual.

But fight night was the opposite. Aldo wouldnt even look at him and Conor was super relaxed. He has some power in that left hand.

In this game, his time will come when he will lose, and undoubtedly be hurt when it happens. But for now, he's nothing short of awesome

That was nothing to do with McGregor being in his head or anything, that's what he's always done in all his fights. Just a different style.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: redzone on December 13, 2015, 10:32:56 PM
Is there any word of a rematch. Intrestling Aldo actually opened mcgregor with that first punch so it would have been interesting if it had of continued.id say he would nearly sell out croke park.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 11:04:35 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 09:54:27 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?

What's Ricey got to do with this?

Who were the other Tyrone boys involved with the dogs you mentioned earlier?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 13, 2015, 11:15:32 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 11:04:35 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 09:54:27 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?

What's Ricey got to do with this?

Who were the other Tyrone boys involved with the dogs you mentioned earlier?

Well you said we shouldn't support McGregor because of his disgusting behaviour ... Blah blah blah which is just a bit of hypocritical given Tyrone and particularly Riceys antics over the years!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 11:15:48 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 11:04:35 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 09:54:27 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?

What's Ricey got to do with this?

Who were the other Tyrone boys involved with the dogs you mentioned earlier?

The only reason you've a problem with Mc Gregor is that he's a Dub. You referenced his pre fight behaviour as scandalous. I'm asking you why you don't apply the same standards to the footballers that represent your county who engage in far worse behaviour then Mc Gregor.

i've yet to see Mc Gregor bite anyone in the ring yet
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on December 13, 2015, 11:21:05 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 13, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)

That video is class. Funniest thing I've seen in a while.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on December 13, 2015, 11:28:18 PM
If I was training an opponent in cmg's the first thing I would do would be to show him tape of Ali and how he behaved prior to some of his bouts, then I would show him Tysons pre fight interviews and ask him what he learned from those exercises, based on his response I think you could get an idea of how the fight was going to go.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bennydorano on December 13, 2015, 11:30:54 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 11:15:48 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 11:04:35 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 09:54:27 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?

What's Ricey got to do with this?

Who were the other Tyrone boys involved with the dogs you mentioned earlier?

The only reason you've a problem with Mc Gregor is that he's a Dub. You referenced his pre fight behaviour as scandalous. I'm asking you why you don't apply the same standards to the footballers that represent your county who engage in far worse behaviour then Mc Gregor.

i've yet to see Mc Gregor bite anyone in the ring yet

Narf narf
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 11:39:39 PM
Quote from: screenexile on December 13, 2015, 11:15:32 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 11:04:35 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 09:54:27 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?

What's Ricey got to do with this?

Who were the other Tyrone boys involved with the dogs you mentioned earlier?

Well you said we shouldn't support McGregor because of his disgusting behaviour ... Blah blah blah which is just a bit of hypocritical given Tyrone and particularly Riceys antics over the years!

Where did I say that others should not support McGregor because of his disgusting behaviour?

And where did I say that I supported the bad behaviour of any Gaa player?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 11:43:32 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 11:15:48 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 11:04:35 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 09:54:27 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?

What's Ricey got to do with this?

Who were the other Tyrone boys involved with the dogs you mentioned earlier?

The only reason you've a problem with Mc Gregor is that he's a Dub. You referenced his pre fight behaviour as scandalous. I'm asking you why you don't apply the same standards to the footballers that represent your county who engage in far worse behaviour then Mc Gregor.

i've yet to see Mc Gregor bite anyone in the ring yet

The only person I saw biting anyone in the ring was Tyson. But what has that to do with anything?

Where did I say that  I didn't apply the same standards to GAA footballers that represent my county or indeed any county?

I have never seen any player behave towards an opponent like McGregor!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on December 13, 2015, 11:58:47 PM
I wouldn't know anything about UFC, but I have to say McGregor has forced me to take an interest.

I love the brashness. I love the predictions and the uber-cockiness. I probably would have disliked this particular aspect of him a few years ago, but I am completely bored with sportsmen and women these days. Even the GAA (and probably especially the GAA) interviews bore me to tears.

If McGregor was playing for the All-Ireland Champions he would probably talk along the lines of "Lookit, Kilkenny might be a junior ladies team and are missing 25,000 players through injury and apathy, but they will still be a formidable challenge for us on Sunday. They'll be really up for it playing the All-Ireland mens champions."

If he was playing for a Premiership team he would be waffling along the lines of "....at the end of the day you have go out and do a job and its not over till the fat lady sing, obviously."

If he was Katie Taylor he would be telling us "....my God is the love of my life and He will lead me to my eternal salvation....".

If he was a golfer he would say sh*ite like "...if I bring my A-game I feel I can compete.....".

And if he was a tennis player he would be 'playing one match at a time'.

Sport is so cliched and mundane these days, why is everyone so offended with some old style braggadocio? It adds to the whole thing, even if it means half of the audience are only watching to see the trash-talker beaten. I dream of every county having someone who trash talks the opposition. Or even just speaks their mind.

Think of (for example) Meath drawn against Dublin next year with the usual 'lookit' bullshit. And then think of it with a Dublin player calling Meath 'useless', and a Meath player calling the Dubs arrogant or some other (maybe better) insult. Build and escalate that, McGregor style, for a week or two and Croker would sell out. The atmosphere would be electric.

Instead we will have more, 'I think it will go down to the wire, very much so'.

McGregor might get knocked out in the next fight, and I am not sure I like the UFC format, but I have to say I am enjoying him. I hope he is around for a few years.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on December 14, 2015, 12:01:12 AM
Great post muppet.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: trileacman on December 14, 2015, 12:38:37 AM
I really dislike the trash-talk and to be honest I'm looking forward to his inevitable defeat down the line. He mightn't be so fond of seeing a microphone shoved in his face after that.

I don't see his attitude as new or refreshing, Ali started it years ago and now it seems to be the done thing for combat sports. It doesn't entertain me either, if it did I probably wouldn't even watch UFC I'd watch videos of tinkers calling each other out on Youtube. Winding people up/Being a w@nk shouldn't be part and parcel of being a respected sportsman, inevitably some gowl takes it too far like Tyson Fury and everyone just shrugs their shoulders because top boxers are expected to be controversial. The views guys like Fury espouse aren't okay.

Muppet I don't think it's something you want to see in GAA, we already have a mouthy WUM up on centre stage and he's far from a national treasure in the county of Mayo. Next time you Mayo boys take offence to Brolly calling you chokers or cheats I'll remind you of love for the braggadocio.

George Hook was right, pre-match interview are a waste of everyone's time. Supporters, interviewers, interviewees. Unless you know you're gonna get something different from the norm don't bother your hole. Journalists have column inches to fill though and pre-match interviews make acceptable manure filler.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hardy on December 14, 2015, 12:58:15 AM
I hate crap. This is crap. Therefore I hate it. The simplest decision I've had to make today.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on December 14, 2015, 04:59:11 AM
Quote from: trileacman on December 14, 2015, 12:38:37 AM
I really dislike the trash-talk and to be honest I'm looking forward to his inevitable defeat down the line. He mightn't be so fond of seeing a microphone shoved in his face after that.

I don't see his attitude as new or refreshing, Ali started it years ago and now it seems to be the done thing for combat sports. It doesn't entertain me either, if it did I probably wouldn't even watch UFC I'd watch videos of tinkers calling each other out on Youtube. Winding people up/Being a w@nk shouldn't be part and parcel of being a respected sportsman, inevitably some gowl takes it too far like Tyson Fury and everyone just shrugs their shoulders because top boxers are expected to be controversial. The views guys like Fury espouse aren't okay.

Muppet I don't think it's something you want to see in GAA, we already have a mouthy WUM up on centre stage and he's far from a national treasure in the county of Mayo. Next time you Mayo boys take offence to Brolly calling you chokers or cheats I'll remind you of love for the braggadocio.

George Hook was right, pre-match interview are a waste of everyone's time. Supporters, interviewers, interviewees. Unless you know you're gonna get something different from the norm don't bother your hole. Journalists have column inches to fill though and pre-match interviews make acceptable manure filler.

Spot on, I don't understand why people think they need to hear trash talk to make a sport interesting. Whats the difference between using slabbering as a promotional tool and sledging? This is actually worse than sledging in IMO. Sledging is used to gain a competitive advantage, this carry on is used to generate money, which IMO is as vulgar and as distasteful as it gets.

Boxing has allowed it to be used as a promotional tool for a long time now in an attempt to try and stem the tide of its gradual 80 year demise. And while it gives small boosts to some fighters it has not stopped the overall decline in interest. I think because team sports have a legacy and tradition it is more adept at fulfilling the tribalism wants that many sports fan are yearning for. Anyway the result  for boxing has been to turn its image into a crude corrupt pantomime, even tho inside the ropes is still overall, more or less, as good as it has always has.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 14, 2015, 08:12:31 AM
It's show business. Grow up lads.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: annapr on December 14, 2015, 08:16:15 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 11:15:48 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 11:04:35 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 09:54:27 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?

What's Ricey got to do with this?

Who were the other Tyrone boys involved with the dogs you mentioned earlier?

The only reason you've a problem with Mc Gregor is that he's a Dub. You referenced his pre fight behaviour as scandalous. I'm asking you why you don't apply the same standards to the footballers that represent your county who engage in far worse behaviour then Mc Gregor.

i've yet to see Mc Gregor bite anyone in the ring yet
And the only reason you like him is because he is a Dub.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: annapr on December 14, 2015, 08:16:50 AM
Quote from: Hardy on December 14, 2015, 12:58:15 AM
I hate crap. This is crap. Therefore I hate it. The simplest decision I've had to make today.
You could get into the octagon with him and bore him into submission.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on December 14, 2015, 08:32:14 AM
Quote from: trileacman on December 14, 2015, 12:38:37 AM
I really dislike the trash-talk and to be honest I'm looking forward to his inevitable defeat down the line. He mightn't be so fond of seeing a microphone shoved in his face after that.

I don't see his attitude as new or refreshing, Ali started it years ago and now it seems to be the done thing for combat sports. It doesn't entertain me either, if it did I probably wouldn't even watch UFC I'd watch videos of tinkers calling each other out on Youtube. Winding people up/Being a w@nk shouldn't be part and parcel of being a respected sportsman, inevitably some gowl takes it too far like Tyson Fury and everyone just shrugs their shoulders because top boxers are expected to be controversial. The views guys like Fury espouse aren't okay.

Muppet I don't think it's something you want to see in GAA, we already have a mouthy WUM up on centre stage and he's far from a national treasure in the county of Mayo. Next time you Mayo boys take offence to Brolly calling you chokers or cheats I'll remind you of love for the braggadocio.

George Hook was right, pre-match interview are a waste of everyone's time. Supporters, interviewers, interviewees. Unless you know you're gonna get something different from the norm don't bother your hole. Journalists have column inches to fill though and pre-match interviews make acceptable manure filler.

It is difficult to imagine someone missing the point more.

This is what I said:

"Sport is so cliched and mundane these days, why is everyone so offended with some old style braggadocio? It adds to the whole thing, even if it means half of the audience are only watching to see the trash-talker beaten. I dream of every county having someone who trash talks the opposition. Or even just speaks their mind."

Regarding Brolly, the reason he is centre stage is because of his braggadocio. There is nothing else putting him there. He makes money out of it and people tune in, like it or not, to hear him rant. He is the only pundits who gets threads on here about him. If Brolly goes over the top and insults my county, of course I may fall for it and 'take offence'. But that is the whole f*cking point! As an aside I think Brolly is a bit tired in the role these days. He needs company.

You can have in your sterile world of 'lookit Marty'. Or worse again, your Mickey Harte Irish News column.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on December 14, 2015, 09:37:26 AM
A bit of honesty and a few less cliches wouldn't go astray in GAA interviews. I would listen to a McGregor interview. I wouldn't listen to a GAA player being interviewed before a game as I know he's not going to say anything.

Like a lot of people I'd have no interest in UFC but I'd watch a McGregor fight, because of his personality. The GAA doesn't need trash-talking to make it interesting, but some genuine, open interviews would add to it.

At the same time, I wouldn't like to see the post match (usually) magnanimous interviews disappear. Most losing GAA managers will say that the better team won and not moan about the ref, even if they feel they'd have plenty to moan about, and imo that's admirable and a very positive thing in the sport(though we should always be striving to improve the standard of refereeing, which is sometimes abysmal). One of the many things that makes the Premiership unbearable are the post match spin interviews where every losing manager tries to convince you that they deserved(whatever that means) to win the match, and were only prevented from doing so by the referee.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Bingo on December 14, 2015, 09:59:31 AM
I don't like the sport, its just a bit too raw or brutal for me. The fighters definitely have some sort of killer instinct to inflict as much damage, by any means on their opponent.

But saying that, I get McGregor and would totally admire him. To do what he does, he can't be a normal guy, he's not going to be Ed Sheeren, all nice and touching the world. He needs to be supremely confident, beyond cockiness. He needs to get in peoples faces, he needs to get in his opponents head and he needs to be cold blooded.

He is without doubt dedicated to his pursuit of the prize. He is all mouth and OTT at it but I don't think he could compete at that level without been as he appears. Plenty suggest that away from the cameras and in the gym with his own people, he is relaxed and very much like anyone else going about their business.

It will come to a day when he is defeated and it will be interesting to see how he reacts.

There is plenty of Niall Quinns, Ed Sheerens, Bernard Brogans, Daniel O'Donnells in the world, we need the balance of a McGregor.

He's here to stay because he can certainly back up his mouth.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Aristocrat on December 14, 2015, 10:15:39 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 11:15:48 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 11:04:35 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 09:54:27 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?

What's Ricey got to do with this?

Who were the other Tyrone boys involved with the dogs you mentioned earlier?

The only reason you've a problem with Mc Gregor is that he's a Dub. You referenced his pre fight behaviour as scandalous. I'm asking you why you don't apply the same standards to the footballers that represent your county who engage in far worse behaviour then Mc Gregor.

i've yet to see Mc Gregor bite anyone in the ring yet

More so the club footballers of Tyrone than inter county, Violent animals from minor match's to ladies county finals when chairmen get knocked out, Tyrone is all that is wrong with the GAA, should be kicked out of all competitions for 5 years. See it that helps them turn away from the violence. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on December 14, 2015, 10:34:12 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on December 14, 2015, 10:15:39 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 11:15:48 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 11:04:35 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 09:54:27 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?

What's Ricey got to do with this?

Who were the other Tyrone boys involved with the dogs you mentioned earlier?

The only reason you've a problem with Mc Gregor is that he's a Dub. You referenced his pre fight behaviour as scandalous. I'm asking you why you don't apply the same standards to the footballers that represent your county who engage in far worse behaviour then Mc Gregor.

i've yet to see Mc Gregor bite anyone in the ring yet

More so the club footballers of Tyrone than inter county, Violent animals from minor match's to ladies county finals when chairmen get knocked out, Tyrone is all that is wrong with the GAA, should be kicked out of all competitions for 5 years. See it that helps them turn away from the violence.

The complete obsession with Tyrone by some people on here is very amusing.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
an irish man has elevated this sport like no man before him. he works hard and deserves to be where he is.
unlike boxing, take mayweather for example who does nothing only run around the ring, these guys actually kick the shit out of each other in the cage, you have to be in the right place mentally for that kind of thing. you have to be confident.
people spouted the same crap about Ali back in the day, "the Louisville Lip". be proud hes achieved what he has already and more luck to him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on December 14, 2015, 11:25:47 AM
QuoteThank you for all the kind messages!
I am extremely grateful and proud to be in the position I am in.
To the naked eye it was 13 seconds, but to my team and my family it has been a lifetime of work to get to that 13 seconds.
Congratulations to the staff at the UFC on a historic week in the sports history and an amazing 2015 for the company.
It is an honor to be playing a part in this great companies continued growth and success and an honor to top off a phenomenal week in the sports history.
Thank you to all the fans who travelled and made this week what it was!!
The traveling Irish are untouchable when it comes to creating the atmosphere needed to make a week like this what it was!!
I am forever blown away by the support of my country. We have changed the game forever!!!
Respect to a great champion in Jose Aldo. The true greats will always overcome adversity.
I wish him and his loyal team well on their journey back. Much respect.
Thank you all!!!

It's all an act. The above is posted on his facebook page, and make far more palatable reading. I hate all the nonsense, but I understand what's behind it. Fair play to him, he's making some waves. As I said, I don't like the act, and I don't particularly like the sport, but it's good to see an Irishman doing well for himself, and the fans having a good time.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on December 14, 2015, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
an irish man has elevated this sport like no man before him. he works hard and deserves to be where he is.
unlike boxing, take mayweather for example who does nothing only run around the ring, these guys actually kick the shit out of each other in the cage, you have to be in the right place mentally for that kind of thing. you have to be confident.
people spouted the same crap about Ali back in the day, "the Louisville Lip". be proud hes achieved what he has already and more luck to him.

I assume you don't follow boxing much then?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on December 14, 2015, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
an irish man has elevated this sport like no man before him. he works hard and deserves to be where he is.
unlike boxing, take mayweather for example who does nothing only run around the ring, these guys actually kick the shit out of each other in the cage, you have to be in the right place mentally for that kind of thing. you have to be confident.
people spouted the same crap about Ali back in the day, "the Louisville Lip". be proud hes achieved what he has already and more luck to him.

I assume you don't follow boxing much then?

Mayweather is a defensive fighter, tries to avoid getting into an actual fight and hit his opponents with quick punches between running around and hugging. and its worked for him, but its BORING as f**k. the Joshua/Whyte fight Saturday night was good.
im comparing the physicality of MMA to boxing and the mentality needed, hence the trash talk, and it works!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on December 14, 2015, 01:08:31 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on December 14, 2015, 04:59:11 AM
Quote from: trileacman on December 14, 2015, 12:38:37 AM
I really dislike the trash-talk and to be honest I'm looking forward to his inevitable defeat down the line. He mightn't be so fond of seeing a microphone shoved in his face after that.

I don't see his attitude as new or refreshing, Ali started it years ago and now it seems to be the done thing for combat sports. It doesn't entertain me either, if it did I probably wouldn't even watch UFC I'd watch videos of tinkers calling each other out on Youtube. Winding people up/Being a w@nk shouldn't be part and parcel of being a respected sportsman, inevitably some gowl takes it too far like Tyson Fury and everyone just shrugs their shoulders because top boxers are expected to be controversial. The views guys like Fury espouse aren't okay.

Muppet I don't think it's something you want to see in GAA, we already have a mouthy WUM up on centre stage and he's far from a national treasure in the county of Mayo. Next time you Mayo boys take offence to Brolly calling you chokers or cheats I'll remind you of love for the braggadocio.

George Hook was right, pre-match interview are a waste of everyone's time. Supporters, interviewers, interviewees. Unless you know you're gonna get something different from the norm don't bother your hole. Journalists have column inches to fill though and pre-match interviews make acceptable manure filler.

Spot on, I don't understand why people think they need to hear trash talk to make a sport interesting. Whats the difference between using slabbering as a promotional tool and sledging? This is actually worse than sledging in IMO. Sledging is used to gain a competitive advantage, this carry on is used to generate money, which IMO is as vulgar and as distasteful as it gets.

Boxing has allowed it to be used as a promotional tool for a long time now in an attempt to try and stem the tide of its gradual 80 year demise. And while it gives small boosts to some fighters it has not stopped the overall decline in interest. I think because team sports have a legacy and tradition it is more adept at fulfilling the tribalism wants that many sports fan are yearning for. Anyway the result  for boxing has been to turn its image into a crude corrupt pantomime, even tho inside the ropes is still overall, more or less, as good as it has always has.

Do you lot really think that he does it for any other reasons than money and getting inside the head of his opponent? It is not personal, acting the arse wipe make him more marketable, expecially when he backs up everything he say's, and as for the second part, Aldo's wife was saying he is crazy and he agreed, tell me Aldo wasnt shitting himself the other night!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 01:13:54 PM
Quote from: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on December 14, 2015, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
an irish man has elevated this sport like no man before him. he works hard and deserves to be where he is.
unlike boxing, take mayweather for example who does nothing only run around the ring, these guys actually kick the shit out of each other in the cage, you have to be in the right place mentally for that kind of thing. you have to be confident.
people spouted the same crap about Ali back in the day, "the Louisville Lip". be proud hes achieved what he has already and more luck to him.

I assume you don't follow boxing much then?

Mayweather is a defensive fighter, tries to avoid getting into an actual fight and hit his opponents with quick punches between running around and hugging. and its worked for him, but its BORING as f**k. the Joshua/Whyte fight Saturday night was good.
im comparing the physicality of MMA to boxing and the mentality needed, hence the trash talk, and it works!

You realise McGregor's KO on Saturday came from a counter punch, yes?

Mayweather carried the nickname Pretty Boy for years because of his ability not to get hit. He is a master. The fact you find it boring is irrelevant and the fact you imply you enjoy it because MMA lads "kick the shit out of each other" gives weight to the suggestion that many "fans" of mma are more interested in seeing a spectacle than a sport.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 01:13:54 PM
Quote from: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on December 14, 2015, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
an irish man has elevated this sport like no man before him. he works hard and deserves to be where he is.
unlike boxing, take mayweather for example who does nothing only run around the ring, these guys actually kick the shit out of each other in the cage, you have to be in the right place mentally for that kind of thing. you have to be confident.
people spouted the same crap about Ali back in the day, "the Louisville Lip". be proud hes achieved what he has already and more luck to him.

I assume you don't follow boxing much then?

Mayweather is a defensive fighter, tries to avoid getting into an actual fight and hit his opponents with quick punches between running around and hugging. and its worked for him, but its BORING as f**k. the Joshua/Whyte fight Saturday night was good.
im comparing the physicality of MMA to boxing and the mentality needed, hence the trash talk, and it works!

You realise McGregor's KO on Saturday came from a counter punch, yes?

Mayweather carried the nickname Pretty Boy for years because of his ability not to get hit. He is a master. The fact you find it boring is irrelevant and the fact you imply you enjoy it because MMA lads "kick the shit out of each other" gives weight to the suggestion that many "fans" of mma are more interested in seeing a spectacle than a sport.

i know its irrelevant, and i agree with you, hes a master of not getting hit, but it doesn't make it any less boring! the point is MMA is more entertaining because there is more action! the sport IS a spectacle!! what else do you want from sport other than entertainment!!? and it gives weight to nothing except people would prefer action to someone running around the ring like i said initially!!
are you another one that has followed MMA for years now and anyone new to the sport are "fans", and not just fans?!  ::)

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on December 14, 2015, 01:32:05 PM
Quote from: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 01:13:54 PM
Quote from: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on December 14, 2015, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
an irish man has elevated this sport like no man before him. he works hard and deserves to be where he is.
unlike boxing, take mayweather for example who does nothing only run around the ring, these guys actually kick the shit out of each other in the cage, you have to be in the right place mentally for that kind of thing. you have to be confident.
people spouted the same crap about Ali back in the day, "the Louisville Lip". be proud hes achieved what he has already and more luck to him.

I assume you don't follow boxing much then?

Mayweather is a defensive fighter, tries to avoid getting into an actual fight and hit his opponents with quick punches between running around and hugging. and its worked for him, but its BORING as f**k. the Joshua/Whyte fight Saturday night was good.
im comparing the physicality of MMA to boxing and the mentality needed, hence the trash talk, and it works!

You realise McGregor's KO on Saturday came from a counter punch, yes?

Mayweather carried the nickname Pretty Boy for years because of his ability not to get hit. He is a master. The fact you find it boring is irrelevant and the fact you imply you enjoy it because MMA lads "kick the shit out of each other" gives weight to the suggestion that many "fans" of mma are more interested in seeing a spectacle than a sport.

i know its irrelevant, and i agree with you, hes a master of not getting hit, but it doesn't make it any less boring! the point is MMA is more entertaining because there is more action! the sport IS a spectacle!! what else do you want from sport other than entertainment!!? and it gives weight to nothing except people would prefer action to someone running around the ring like i said initially!!
are you another one that has followed MMA for years now and anyone new to the sport are "fans", and not just fans?!  ::)

Not all MMA fights are exciting.  Alot of them are pretty boring, two fellas laying on the ground cuddling for a few rounds with no entertainable action on the go.  But I would imagine that most bandwagon fans think that all fights are explosive and end in knock-out wins.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 01:43:04 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 14, 2015, 01:32:05 PM
Quote from: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 01:13:54 PM
Quote from: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on December 14, 2015, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
an irish man has elevated this sport like no man before him. he works hard and deserves to be where he is.
unlike boxing, take mayweather for example who does nothing only run around the ring, these guys actually kick the shit out of each other in the cage, you have to be in the right place mentally for that kind of thing. you have to be confident.
people spouted the same crap about Ali back in the day, "the Louisville Lip". be proud hes achieved what he has already and more luck to him.

I assume you don't follow boxing much then?

Mayweather is a defensive fighter, tries to avoid getting into an actual fight and hit his opponents with quick punches between running around and hugging. and its worked for him, but its BORING as f**k. the Joshua/Whyte fight Saturday night was good.
im comparing the physicality of MMA to boxing and the mentality needed, hence the trash talk, and it works!

You realise McGregor's KO on Saturday came from a counter punch, yes?

Mayweather carried the nickname Pretty Boy for years because of his ability not to get hit. He is a master. The fact you find it boring is irrelevant and the fact you imply you enjoy it because MMA lads "kick the shit out of each other" gives weight to the suggestion that many "fans" of mma are more interested in seeing a spectacle than a sport.

i know its irrelevant, and i agree with you, hes a master of not getting hit, but it doesn't make it any less boring! the point is MMA is more entertaining because there is more action! the sport IS a spectacle!! what else do you want from sport other than entertainment!!? and it gives weight to nothing except people would prefer action to someone running around the ring like i said initially!!
are you another one that has followed MMA for years now and anyone new to the sport are "fans", and not just fans?!  ::)

Not all MMA fights are exciting.  Alot of them are pretty boring, two fellas laying on the ground cuddling for a few rounds with no entertainable action on the go.  But I would imagine that most bandwagon fans think that all fights are explosive and end in knock-out wins.

ah here, another one on to bash  "fans" and "bandwagon fans".
ive been following for about 2 years now, new enough, ive seen enough to understand the all dont finish with knock outs etc.
try not to be so patronizing!

anyway, well done Conor, what next? probably Frankie Edgar? Croker??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 01:47:09 PM
Quote from: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 01:13:54 PM
Quote from: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on December 14, 2015, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
an irish man has elevated this sport like no man before him. he works hard and deserves to be where he is.
unlike boxing, take mayweather for example who does nothing only run around the ring, these guys actually kick the shit out of each other in the cage, you have to be in the right place mentally for that kind of thing. you have to be confident.
people spouted the same crap about Ali back in the day, "the Louisville Lip". be proud hes achieved what he has already and more luck to him.

I assume you don't follow boxing much then?

Mayweather is a defensive fighter, tries to avoid getting into an actual fight and hit his opponents with quick punches between running around and hugging. and its worked for him, but its BORING as f**k. the Joshua/Whyte fight Saturday night was good.
im comparing the physicality of MMA to boxing and the mentality needed, hence the trash talk, and it works!

You realise McGregor's KO on Saturday came from a counter punch, yes?

Mayweather carried the nickname Pretty Boy for years because of his ability not to get hit. He is a master. The fact you find it boring is irrelevant and the fact you imply you enjoy it because MMA lads "kick the shit out of each other" gives weight to the suggestion that many "fans" of mma are more interested in seeing a spectacle than a sport.

i know its irrelevant, and i agree with you, hes a master of not getting hit, 1) but it doesn't make it any less boring! the point is 2) MMA is more entertaining because there is more action! the sport IS a spectacle!! 3) what else do you want from sport other than entertainment!!? and it gives weight to nothing except people would prefer action to someone running around the ring like i said initially!!
are you another one that has followed MMA for years now and anyone new to the sport are "fans", and not just fans?!  ::)

1) In your opinion. I find his defensive skills and movement and ability to make fighters miss absolutely mesmerising.
2) Did you enjoy the Nelson-Maia fight? There wasn't much action in it.
3) It's what you define as entertainment that matters. If you get your kicks from the blood and guts going everywhere rather than the skill, technique and craftsmanship that leads to it, then there's something wrong with you and I would suggest you're more interested than the spectacle than the sport.

No, I'm not a fan. I have had a passing interest in it for years but don't really enjoy the wrestling and grappling side of things all that much. Also, I despise the pricks who in one breath talk about the explosion of MMA and how great McGregor and Rousey are for it and then in the next criticise "bandwagon fans" who are driving all the new hype. What I can't abide however is people who profess to be fans of the sport and could barely name you anyone beyond McGregor and whatever opponent he's facing at the time, many of whom appear to exist here in Ireland these days. For example, the absolute gang of walts who turned up at the Convention Centre press conference to abuse Aldo (a p4p king and ten year undefeated, undisputed champion) as a pussy etc. Or the "the new UFC featherweight of the championship" lad from the same event.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 01:48:11 PM
Quote from: stew on December 14, 2015, 01:08:31 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on December 14, 2015, 04:59:11 AM
Quote from: trileacman on December 14, 2015, 12:38:37 AM
I really dislike the trash-talk and to be honest I'm looking forward to his inevitable defeat down the line. He mightn't be so fond of seeing a microphone shoved in his face after that.

I don't see his attitude as new or refreshing, Ali started it years ago and now it seems to be the done thing for combat sports. It doesn't entertain me either, if it did I probably wouldn't even watch UFC I'd watch videos of tinkers calling each other out on Youtube. Winding people up/Being a w@nk shouldn't be part and parcel of being a respected sportsman, inevitably some gowl takes it too far like Tyson Fury and everyone just shrugs their shoulders because top boxers are expected to be controversial. The views guys like Fury espouse aren't okay.

Muppet I don't think it's something you want to see in GAA, we already have a mouthy WUM up on centre stage and he's far from a national treasure in the county of Mayo. Next time you Mayo boys take offence to Brolly calling you chokers or cheats I'll remind you of love for the braggadocio.

George Hook was right, pre-match interview are a waste of everyone's time. Supporters, interviewers, interviewees. Unless you know you're gonna get something different from the norm don't bother your hole. Journalists have column inches to fill though and pre-match interviews make acceptable manure filler.

Spot on, I don't understand why people think they need to hear trash talk to make a sport interesting. Whats the difference between using slabbering as a promotional tool and sledging? This is actually worse than sledging in IMO. Sledging is used to gain a competitive advantage, this carry on is used to generate money, which IMO is as vulgar and as distasteful as it gets.

Boxing has allowed it to be used as a promotional tool for a long time now in an attempt to try and stem the tide of its gradual 80 year demise. And while it gives small boosts to some fighters it has not stopped the overall decline in interest. I think because team sports have a legacy and tradition it is more adept at fulfilling the tribalism wants that many sports fan are yearning for. Anyway the result  for boxing has been to turn its image into a crude corrupt pantomime, even tho inside the ropes is still overall, more or less, as good as it has always has.

Do you lot really think that he does it for any other reasons than money and getting inside the head of his opponent? It is not personal, acting the arse wipe make him more marketable, expecially when he backs up everything he say's, and as for the second part, Aldo's wife was saying he is crazy and he agreed, tell me Aldo wasnt shitting himself the other night!

Aldo wasn't shitting himself the other night.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on December 14, 2015, 02:07:39 PM
I know feck all about UFC or MMA, but I don't think Aldo was shitting himself. If anything he allowed McGregor to annoy him so much that he lunged in and a very clever counter punch absolutely nailed him.

In fact I'm not so sure that that fight would be any indicator to a rematch either. Aldo would surely be cleverer than to try that again.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 02:15:39 PM
This fight could end up exposing some of the issues with the UFC as a promotion. Superstars like Anderson Silva, Cain Velasquez and Rousey get immediate rematches having been the victims of just as one sided or spectacular defeats as Aldo's (albeit significantly longer ones). Holly Holm has effectively been told that despite producing the most momentous result in UFC history (until yesterday perhaps) that she will wait until Ronda is good and ready before she can defend her belt again. Aldo has never been a huge pay per view draw and has never been a favourite, but considering his stature, you'd think he'd be entitled to the rematch. A fight at 145 with Edgar or a lightweight fight (they'll be praying Cerrone wins next week) will be bigger money for Dana and the Fertittas, so those will be the fights that are made.

On the "Aldo being afraid" bit - I assume people are inferring this because he looked at the ground and didn't raise is head during the intros. As I said earlier, it's something he's always done. His way of getting in the zone so to speak.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Club Rossa on December 14, 2015, 02:24:18 PM
Thought Herb Dean should have stopped Weidman's fight in the 3rd round.The man took a hell of a lot of punishment in the final minute and I couldn't believe he didn't intervene.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 02:32:32 PM
Quote from: Club Rossa on December 14, 2015, 02:24:18 PM
Thought Herb Dean should have stopped Weidman's fight in the 3rd round.The man took a hell of a lot of punishment in the final minute and I couldn't believe he didn't intervene.

Aye, that was scandalous. Weidman was done. He was covering his face so in theory defending himseld but for about 70 seconds he just got smashed by forearms, elbows and fists. By the time Rockhold had him again in the fourth I thought he was starting to pull the punches a bit to avoid doing any more damage until Dean stopped it.

Some big MMA media boys like Rogan going very easy on Dean I feel. He deserves plenty of criticisim for it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on December 14, 2015, 02:51:06 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 01:47:09 PM
1) In your opinion. I find his defensive skills and movement and ability to make fighters miss absolutely mesmerising.
2) Did you enjoy the Nelson-Maia fight? There wasn't much action in it.
3) It's what you define as entertainment that matters. If you get your kicks from the blood and guts going everywhere rather than the skill, technique and craftsmanship that leads to it, then there's something wrong with you and I would suggest you're more interested than the spectacle than the sport.

No, I'm not a fan. I have had a passing interest in it for years but don't really enjoy the wrestling and grappling side of things all that much. Also, I despise the pricks who in one breath talk about the explosion of MMA and how great McGregor and Rousey are for it and then in the next criticise "bandwagon fans" who are driving all the new hype. What I can't abide however is people who profess to be fans of the sport and could barely name you anyone beyond McGregor and whatever opponent he's facing at the time, many of whom appear to exist here in Ireland these days. For example, the absolute gang of walts who turned up at the Convention Centre press conference to abuse Aldo (a p4p king and ten year undefeated, undisputed champion) as a pussy etc. Or the "the new UFC featherweight of the championship" lad from the same event.
Jeez, I thought the Nelson-Maia fight was action packed.
From a viewing point of view it was greatly enhanced by the commentary. "Gunnar needs to do X to get out of this hold". Which Gunnar would then try and do, but everytime Maia had a countermove. Maia was very impressive.

I haven't been a big follower of UFC, I used to be a big follower of boxing. I watched every fight on the card on Saturday and the really refreshing thing was that pretty much every fighter there thought they could win. Which is so so different to a boxing card where mismatches are far more common than pick'ems.

QuoteThought Herb Dean should have stopped Weidman's fight in the 3rd round.The man took a hell of a lot of punishment in the final minute and I couldn't believe he didn't intervene.
You could see in the ref's face after the round that he knew he made a mistake. He stopped it as soon as Weidman got into trouble in the 4th. In the 3rd the ref was trying to give the champion the benefit. Knew the round was nearly up. But 10 seconds is a helluva long time when you are in Weidman's position and I'd bet the ref regrets it now.

The ref in the McGregor fight was very sharp. He was waving it off before Aldo hit the deck, although not fast enough to stop McGregor getting in a couple of extra digs. Funny thing in that one is that if it was under boxing rules, Aldo probably would have survived a 10 count. But you'd imagine it wouldnt have been long before he would have been decked again.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on December 14, 2015, 02:53:45 PM
surely they'll give a man of Aldo's standing a rematch?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: HiMucker on December 14, 2015, 02:57:07 PM
The rule is you must be able to "intelligently defend yourself"
Terrible refereeing
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 03:02:18 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on December 14, 2015, 02:53:45 PM
surely they'll give a man of Aldo's standing a rematch?

The two options they've outlined are a defence against Edgar or move up to 155 for an immediate title shot against next week's winner. Harsh on Aldo.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 14, 2015, 03:23:48 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 03:02:18 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on December 14, 2015, 02:53:45 PM
surely they'll give a man of Aldo's standing a rematch?

The two options they've outlined are a defence against Edgar or move up to 155 for an immediate title shot against next week's winner. Harsh on Aldo.

McGregor says he told Aldo they could go again and I think they will. At the end of the day the Champ was floored by a sucker punch. If they fight 50 times that happens once (McGregor admitted he expected it to take a bit longer) and I think the Public would be well up for a rematch as they know it should be much tighter than it was the other evening.

Either it's a rematch or he moves up a division! I definitely expect McGregor and Aldo to fight again but it might not be next year!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on December 14, 2015, 03:54:18 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 01:48:11 PM
Quote from: stew on December 14, 2015, 01:08:31 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on December 14, 2015, 04:59:11 AM
Quote from: trileacman on December 14, 2015, 12:38:37 AM
I really dislike the trash-talk and to be honest I'm looking forward to his inevitable defeat down the line. He mightn't be so fond of seeing a microphone shoved in his face after that.

I don't see his attitude as new or refreshing, Ali started it years ago and now it seems to be the done thing for combat sports. It doesn't entertain me either, if it did I probably wouldn't even watch UFC I'd watch videos of tinkers calling each other out on Youtube. Winding people up/Being a w@nk shouldn't be part and parcel of being a respected sportsman, inevitably some gowl takes it too far like Tyson Fury and everyone just shrugs their shoulders because top boxers are expected to be controversial. The views guys like Fury espouse aren't okay.

Muppet I don't think it's something you want to see in GAA, we already have a mouthy WUM up on centre stage and he's far from a national treasure in the county of Mayo. Next time you Mayo boys take offence to Brolly calling you chokers or cheats I'll remind you of love for the braggadocio.

George Hook was right, pre-match interview are a waste of everyone's time. Supporters, interviewers, interviewees. Unless you know you're gonna get something different from the norm don't bother your hole. Journalists have column inches to fill though and pre-match interviews make acceptable manure filler.

Spot on, I don't understand why people think they need to hear trash talk to make a sport interesting. Whats the difference between using slabbering as a promotional tool and sledging? This is actually worse than sledging in IMO. Sledging is used to gain a competitive advantage, this carry on is used to generate money, which IMO is as vulgar and as distasteful as it gets.

Boxing has allowed it to be used as a promotional tool for a long time now in an attempt to try and stem the tide of its gradual 80 year demise. And while it gives small boosts to some fighters it has not stopped the overall decline in interest. I think because team sports have a legacy and tradition it is more adept at fulfilling the tribalism wants that many sports fan are yearning for. Anyway the result  for boxing has been to turn its image into a crude corrupt pantomime, even tho inside the ropes is still overall, more or less, as good as it has always has.

Do you lot really think that he does it for any other reasons than money and getting inside the head of his opponent? It is not personal, acting the arse wipe make him more marketable, expecially when he backs up everything he say's, and as for the second part, Aldo's wife was saying he is crazy and he agreed, tell me Aldo wasnt shitting himself the other night!

Aldo wasn't shitting himself the other night.

He lasted 13 seconds ffs, he is the MMA version of Leon Spinks which is sad because he was a tremendous champion, he was never ready to fight McGregor, never wanted to fight McGregor because McGregor got to him between the ears! His wife coming out and flapping her gums was music to McGregors ears.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on December 14, 2015, 03:58:10 PM
Why do you think lasting 13 seconds has anything to do with whether he was afraid or not? He lost his cool and lunged at McGregor, because McGregor got in his head. If he was afraid he'd have tried to dance and get into some sort of clinch hold, or keep his distance and kick. The fact he dived in like a lunatic looked like he was over eager, and McGregor took advantage. At least that's how it looked to me, but I've no clue of this MMA stuff.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on December 14, 2015, 04:27:20 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 14, 2015, 03:58:10 PM
Why do you think lasting 13 seconds has anything to do with whether he was afraid or not? He lost his cool and lunged at McGregor, because McGregor got in his head. If he was afraid he'd have tried to dance and get into some sort of clinch hold, or keep his distance and kick. The fact he dived in like a lunatic looked like he was over eager, and McGregor took advantage. At least that's how it looked to me, but I've no clue of this MMA stuff.

I have looked at the fight a few times, yes all 13 seconds of it, and Aldo connected with a decent punch, despite the handicap of being knocked out while throwing it. It is not too big a leap to suggest that Conor was wide open and if his own punch hadn't done the damage it did, things could have been very different. All of that happened in a split second.

Fine margins etc.

I don't know anything about Aldo. This could have a terrible effect on him, or he could be the type to come back and set the record straight.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on December 14, 2015, 04:30:57 PM
He looked off balance throwing it though. I'm not sure it would have had enough power to do damage. McGregor was expecting it and unloaded a counter perfectly. I think Aldo's punch landed before McGregor's, so I don't think he was knocked out when it landed.

Edit - Looked at it again, you're right. It was the right hand that McGregor countered. Aldo's left was going to land heavy if McGregor didn't spark him out.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on December 14, 2015, 04:35:30 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 14, 2015, 04:30:57 PM
He looked off balance throwing it though. I'm not sure it would have had enough power to do damage. McGregor was expecting it and unloaded a counter perfectly. I think Aldo's punch landed before McGregor's, so I don't think he was knocked out when it landed.

Edit - Looked at it again, you're right. It was the right hand that McGregor countered. Aldo's left was going to land heavy if McGregor didn't spark him out.

https://youtu.be/LTit9mg_XOc (https://youtu.be/LTit9mg_XOc)

It looked a decent punch even though he had already been hit with a knockout punch. If McGregor was slightly later, they could have both been knocked out! Apparently the rule for that is, the first man to stand up wins.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 14, 2015, 04:40:13 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 14, 2015, 04:35:30 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 14, 2015, 04:30:57 PM
He looked off balance throwing it though. I'm not sure it would have had enough power to do damage. McGregor was expecting it and unloaded a counter perfectly. I think Aldo's punch landed before McGregor's, so I don't think he was knocked out when it landed.

Edit - Looked at it again, you're right. It was the right hand that McGregor countered. Aldo's left was going to land heavy if McGregor didn't spark him out.

https://youtu.be/LTit9mg_XOc (https://youtu.be/LTit9mg_XOc)

It looked a decent punch even though he had already been hit with a knockout punch. If McGregor was slightly later, they could have both been knocked out! Apparently the rule for that is, the first man to stand up wins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEGY_fLBCsQ
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on December 14, 2015, 04:45:53 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 14, 2015, 04:40:13 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 14, 2015, 04:35:30 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 14, 2015, 04:30:57 PM
He looked off balance throwing it though. I'm not sure it would have had enough power to do damage. McGregor was expecting it and unloaded a counter perfectly. I think Aldo's punch landed before McGregor's, so I don't think he was knocked out when it landed.

Edit - Looked at it again, you're right. It was the right hand that McGregor countered. Aldo's left was going to land heavy if McGregor didn't spark him out.

https://youtu.be/LTit9mg_XOc (https://youtu.be/LTit9mg_XOc)

It looked a decent punch even though he had already been hit with a knockout punch. If McGregor was slightly later, they could have both been knocked out! Apparently the rule for that is, the first man to stand up wins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEGY_fLBCsQ

Rocky dived! Typical Italian.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 14, 2015, 04:49:35 PM
Prize fighting is about the gold - not always the gold belt but always the gold coin.  That's the prize.  That stack of gold coins get's bigger and bigger the more people buy the PPV or watch the fight on free TV.  It get's bigger the more people attend the event, stay at the hotels, spend money in the casinos and bars and clubs.  I think that only happens when you have a pulverizing figure to follow. How many would fly to Vegas for Norman Parke, Cathal Pendred or Joe Duffy? We don't want to see paint dry! We want spectactle, we want to be part of something bigger than ourselves - love him or hate you watch McGregor.

Outside of the cage he's the opposite.  He's the man at the post fight press conference.  Quiet, articulate, sometimes humble,  A family man, a hard worker and an extremely loyal friend.

Aldo was undefeated in 10 years - think about that. 10 years.  He rightly so has been recognized as the P4P #1 MMA fighter in the world. He has defeated decisively a who's who of the lighter divisions.
Against Cub Swanson (not an overly gifted fighter) Aldo got mad, he was over reaching in his punches, determined to inflict damage.  He fought sloppy (much like Rhonda against Holly Holm).  McGregor and his coaches know this.  They had to go after Aldo mentally, make him mad, make him sloppy. make him overreach in his punches.  It wasn't always nice to watch but the mental warfare of the past year worked.  Aldo was mad, he ran into McGregor and he caught him lovely but in doing so was wide open for the left hook to the chin.

I loved the fight, I loved the result and I'm proud of McGregor's achievements to date.  His supporters get a little carried away with themselves but that isn't his fault.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on December 14, 2015, 04:58:27 PM
Quote from: stew on December 14, 2015, 03:54:18 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 01:48:11 PM
Quote from: stew on December 14, 2015, 01:08:31 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on December 14, 2015, 04:59:11 AM
Quote from: trileacman on December 14, 2015, 12:38:37 AM
I really dislike the trash-talk and to be honest I'm looking forward to his inevitable defeat down the line. He mightn't be so fond of seeing a microphone shoved in his face after that.

I don't see his attitude as new or refreshing, Ali started it years ago and now it seems to be the done thing for combat sports. It doesn't entertain me either, if it did I probably wouldn't even watch UFC I'd watch videos of tinkers calling each other out on Youtube. Winding people up/Being a w@nk shouldn't be part and parcel of being a respected sportsman, inevitably some gowl takes it too far like Tyson Fury and everyone just shrugs their shoulders because top boxers are expected to be controversial. The views guys like Fury espouse aren't okay.

Muppet I don't think it's something you want to see in GAA, we already have a mouthy WUM up on centre stage and he's far from a national treasure in the county of Mayo. Next time you Mayo boys take offence to Brolly calling you chokers or cheats I'll remind you of love for the braggadocio.

George Hook was right, pre-match interview are a waste of everyone's time. Supporters, interviewers, interviewees. Unless you know you're gonna get something different from the norm don't bother your hole. Journalists have column inches to fill though and pre-match interviews make acceptable manure filler.

Spot on, I don't understand why people think they need to hear trash talk to make a sport interesting. Whats the difference between using slabbering as a promotional tool and sledging? This is actually worse than sledging in IMO. Sledging is used to gain a competitive advantage, this carry on is used to generate money, which IMO is as vulgar and as distasteful as it gets.

Boxing has allowed it to be used as a promotional tool for a long time now in an attempt to try and stem the tide of its gradual 80 year demise. And while it gives small boosts to some fighters it has not stopped the overall decline in interest. I think because team sports have a legacy and tradition it is more adept at fulfilling the tribalism wants that many sports fan are yearning for. Anyway the result  for boxing has been to turn its image into a crude corrupt pantomime, even tho inside the ropes is still overall, more or less, as good as it has always has.

Do you lot really think that he does it for any other reasons than money and getting inside the head of his opponent? It is not personal, acting the arse wipe make him more marketable, expecially when he backs up everything he say's, and as for the second part, Aldo's wife was saying he is crazy and he agreed, tell me Aldo wasnt shitting himself the other night!

Aldo wasn't shitting himself the other night.

He lasted 13 seconds ffs, he is the MMA version of Leon Spinks which is sad because he was a tremendous champion, he was never ready to fight McGregor, never wanted to fight McGregor because McGregor got to him between the ears! His wife coming out and flapping her gums was music to McGregors ears.

What did Aldo's Mrs say?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 14, 2015, 05:03:57 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on December 14, 2015, 04:49:35 PM
Prize fighting is about the gold - not always the gold belt but always the gold coin.  That's the prize.  That stack of gold coins get's bigger and bigger the more people buy the PPV or watch the fight on free TV.  It get's bigger the more people attend the event, stay at the hotels, spend money in the casinos and bars and clubs.  I think that only happens when you have a pulverizing figure to follow. How many would fly to Vegas for Norman Parke, Cathal Pendred or Joe Duffy? We don't want to see paint dry! We want spectactle, we want to be part of something bigger than ourselves - love him or hate you watch McGregor.

Outside of the cage he's the opposite.  He's the man at the post fight press conference.  Quiet, articulate, sometimes humble,  A family man, a hard worker and an extremely loyal friend.

Aldo was undefeated in 10 years - think about that. 10 years.  He rightly so has been recognized as the P4P #1 MMA fighter in the world. He has defeated decisively a who's who of the lighter divisions.
Against Cub Swanson (not an overly gifted fighter) Aldo got mad, he was over reaching in his punches, determined to inflict damage.  He fought sloppy (much like Rhonda against Holly Holm).  McGregor and his coaches know this.  They had to go after Aldo mentally, make him mad, make him sloppy. make him overreach in his punches.  It wasn't always nice to watch but the mental warfare of the past year worked.  Aldo was mad, he ran into McGregor and he caught him lovely but in doing so was wide open for the left hook to the chin.

I loved the fight, I loved the result and I'm proud of McGregor's achievements to date.  His supporters get a little carried away with themselves but that isn't his fault.

Good post
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 14, 2015, 05:15:49 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 03:02:18 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on December 14, 2015, 02:53:45 PM
surely they'll give a man of Aldo's standing a rematch?

The two options they've outlined are a defence against Edgar or move up to 155 for an immediate title shot against next week's winner. Harsh on Aldo.

I think Aldo should get the rematch before Edgar gets a chance. Until Saturday he was the only UFC featherweight champion ever and add in the way he lost, I think they need to respect what he has done for the past 10 odd years. Surely Dana will go with the potential of $$$$
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 14, 2015, 05:26:50 PM
It's hard to know what will happen next for McGregor. Dana's absence later at the press conference is very telling - there is trouble there - a difference of opinion on whether or not Dana will allow McGregor to compete simultaneously at both weight classes (145 and 155).
There's some huge men and huge fights at 155.  I agree that Dana will not want to lose the $$$$ but I don't know if Aldo brings those. The smartest option is to protect McGregor somewhat. Match him against strikers. Match him against smaller 155'ers.  Fill Croke Park, make a couple of defenses and retire. 
There are a couple of stories worth pursuing.  Cowboy is a better fight for CMG - Cowboy can be baited - Nate Diaz proved that - then you have the Joe Duffy angle.  That's two fights to keep CMG busy for 2016 at 155lbs.  If DosAnjos wins that's a very bad match-up for McGregor and he'll stay at 145 and fight Edgar in Croker. 
The Faber Dillashaw story is also interesting. TJ beats Faber hands down - he is too good for him at this point. But Faber and McGregor have been chummy of late and TJ wants the super fight and could move up if he beats Cruz.
Lots of options as Conor says... great time to be him in the UFC
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 05:29:01 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 14, 2015, 05:15:49 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 03:02:18 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on December 14, 2015, 02:53:45 PM
surely they'll give a man of Aldo's standing a rematch?

The two options they've outlined are a defence against Edgar or move up to 155 for an immediate title shot against next week's winner. Harsh on Aldo.

I think Aldo should get the rematch before Edgar gets a chance. Until Saturday he was the only UFC featherweight champion ever and add in the way he lost, I think they need to respect what he has done for the past 10 odd years. Surely Dana will go with the potential of $$$$

I don't disagree but I don't think it'll happen unfortunately.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 07:41:09 PM
Recovery from injury aside, if he's fit, I think Cruz beats Dillashaw every time. His comeback last year after 3 years out was spectacular.

Edgar is a tough, tough fight for McGregor. I think it's the most likely option at this stage but it won't be in Croker. Too difficult to sell the mid afternoon pay per view to the States next summer when they'll also be asked to fork out for a huge UFC 200. McGregor-Edgar and Holm-Rousey 2 for 200 in the new arena in Vegas.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 14, 2015, 07:58:14 PM
I don't know where the UFC makes the most money - but the gate in the MGM was $10million.  It think it holds less than 20,000.  Croke Park could surely hold 85,000 plus - so that might be enough of a draw.  I don't know if they would waste the drawing power of McGregor and Rousey on one card - might be wrong but I don't think they would.  The new casino might be the best bet but the Irish are only going to travel for so long. There's some loans out I'd say on the past two trips alone.

Who knows - its a good time regardless!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 08:38:01 PM
Next summer will be the middle of championship season too. There are few enough free evenings unless you do it in June.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: foxcommander on December 14, 2015, 08:54:53 PM
He should go fight in wembley and take his poppies with him. Gaa shouldnt even consider letting him in the door.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 14, 2015, 08:57:30 PM
really? I'm surprised you have the time to comment what with all your efforts to free Ireland....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: foxcommander on December 14, 2015, 09:00:40 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on December 14, 2015, 08:57:30 PM
really? I'm surprised you have the time to comment what with all your efforts to free Ireland....

Sorry Ice - I don't have much time for him. Gaa should concentrate on their own sports than accommodating his fights.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 14, 2015, 09:21:53 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on December 14, 2015, 09:00:40 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on December 14, 2015, 08:57:30 PM
really? I'm surprised you have the time to comment what with all your efforts to free Ireland....

Sorry Ice - I don't have much time for him. Gaa should concentrate on their own sports than accommodating his fights.
Maybe they should but they like the coin too just as much as he does....  Peace
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on December 15, 2015, 02:30:06 PM
UFC 200 - I see that's noted down on UFC official website for Saturday July 9 in Las Vegas.

Do the UFC have this penned down as a big landmark event or do these numbers of their events mean nothing i.e. is 197 etc just as big?

Would consider booking flights shortly it if there was a good chance McGregor etc would be at it!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 15, 2015, 02:50:38 PM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on December 15, 2015, 02:30:06 PM
UFC 200 - I see that's noted down on UFC official website for Saturday July 9 in Las Vegas.

Do the UFC have this penned down as a big landmark event or do these numbers of their events mean nothing i.e. is 197 etc just as big?

Would consider booking flights shortly it if there was a good chance McGregor etc would be at it!

Think they're making a big enough deal of it Rousey Holm rematch is on then AFAIK... talk of McGregor fighting then as well but nothing even close to confirmed I think they need word back on an injured wrist after the Aldo punch.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: dec on December 15, 2015, 02:54:01 PM
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Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 15, 2015, 11:15:28 PM
Quote from: dec on December 15, 2015, 02:54:01 PM
(http://img0.thejournal.ie/inline/181591/original/?version=181591)

Who was boxing  in the minors that day?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: give her dixie on December 15, 2015, 11:46:49 PM
Quote from: dec on December 15, 2015, 02:54:01 PM
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Before coming to Ireland, Ali wanted to meet Bernadette McAliskey. A boxing club in Dublin got in contact
with Clonoe boxing club, and a friend of my fathers took Bernadette to meet Ali in Dublin when he was here.

The civil rights movement here resonated with him and what was going on in the US at the time.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on December 16, 2015, 09:13:09 AM
Fully expect McGregor to fight either Edgar or Cowboy. Personally i think Edgar at 145 gives him a much tougher fight.

As for the Aldo fight, it just shows what a good striker McGregor is. Aldo was the P4P best fighter in the business, the equivilent of Mayweather without the excitment and ago. In many ways I feel sorry for Aldo as there is no way he's getting a rematch, cash is king and the public are fatigued of Aldo v McGregor hype with well over a year of build up.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 16, 2015, 08:44:05 PM
ufc 200 will be huge - rousey holm will just be one of the marquee fights - they went big for ufc 100 and Dana will want to do more.
I would book tickets if you're hoping for a big event - no guarantee thought that McGregor will definitely be on the card.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: dec on December 16, 2015, 08:56:14 PM
UFC 200 Headliners Announced: McGregor Vs ISIS

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/12/14/ufc-200-headliners-announced-mcgregor-vs-isis/

THE UFC hasn't waited long in announcing the follow up to Conor McGregor's astonishing knockout of Jose Aldo, and the announcement brings an end to years of speculation.

"We've seen what Conor can do, and this was a fight we were always looking into, it was just a case of schedules lining up right together," UFC CEO Dana White said, confirming that Notorious would face up against Caliphate enthusiasts ISIS.

"They're pound for pound the best terrorist group operating in the world today, but they haven't seen what Conor's left hook can do. We're excited, the box office will undoubtedly be a new record," White added, before taking time out to drool on the amount of money the bout would make the UFC.

While this will be the first UFC bout to feature a terrorist organisation, rumours in MMA circles suggest the negotiations on the finer details of the fight and training camps were relatively hassle free and UFC 200's main event has been among the easiest to negotiate.

"As far as training camps go, ISIS says they're already operating several, they were desperate for the MGM Grand as it has always been a dream of theirs to fight in the US, but we're going to the neutral ground of Switzerland," White confirmed.

With the fight just freshly announced early bookie odds are making McGregor the overwhelming favourite at 1/300.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Club Rossa on December 20, 2015, 11:18:25 AM
Last night's main event lasted slightly longer than last week's!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 08, 2016, 03:50:54 AM
McGregor vs Dos Anjos for the 155lb title happening on March 5th at UFC197. Co-main event with Holly Holm vs Meisha Tate
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on January 08, 2016, 05:24:08 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 08, 2016, 03:50:54 AM
McGregor vs Dos Anjos for the 155lb title happening on March 5th at UFC197. Co-main event with Holly Holm vs Meisha Tate

This is set?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on January 12, 2016, 06:38:42 AM
What's the general price of a ticket to a UFC event? Are McGregors fights more expensive?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 12, 2016, 09:07:36 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on January 08, 2016, 05:24:08 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 08, 2016, 03:50:54 AM
McGregor vs Dos Anjos for the 155lb title happening on March 5th at UFC197. Co-main event with Holly Holm vs Meisha Tate

This is set?

Yes - https://twitter.com/UFC_Ireland/status/687017726083239937
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on February 23, 2016, 01:27:59 PM
Off now.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 23, 2016, 01:29:20 PM
Diaz to step in possibly or whole thing off?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on February 23, 2016, 02:46:14 PM
Cerrone possibly.

Absolutely gutted at this though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on February 23, 2016, 03:39:55 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on February 23, 2016, 02:46:14 PM
Cerrone possibly.

Absolutely gutted at this though.

Would be a joke if so. He got sparked in 66 seconds by RDA two months ago and fought at welter two days ago. Not too man obvious options though.

I've had a funny feeling about fight for a while - low key announcement press conference, relatively low level of media activity. Hasn't felt right at all so this is no surprise.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on February 23, 2016, 03:44:43 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 23, 2016, 01:27:59 PM
Off now.
What reason has been given?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on February 23, 2016, 03:46:01 PM
Aye, seems a bit suss gallsman. 

It'll probably happen at UFC 200 now instead.

Broken foot is the reason.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on February 23, 2016, 04:14:29 PM
Not sure what to make of this. The build up has been very quiet. I don't know how many Irish had planned to make the trip - if a lot I think McGregor stays on the card to keep the fans happy and get paid.
he will be fighting on on UFC 200 regardless and if he is healthy now then take a fight. Diaz should be able to step in at 170 on 2 weeks notice. Cerrone isn't a smart fight he will take CMG down, Diaz wont  - he will try to stand and box and has the hands to do so....
never a dull moment.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 23, 2016, 04:18:00 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on February 23, 2016, 04:14:29 PM
Not sure what to make of this. The build up has been very quiet. I don't know how many Irish had planned to make the trip - if a lot I think McGregor stays on the card to keep the fans happy and get paid.
he will be fighting on on UFC 200 regardless and if he is healthy now then take a fight. Diaz should be able to step in at 170 on 2 weeks notice. Cerrone isn't a smart fight he will take CMG down, Diaz wont  - he will try to stand and box and has the hands to do so....
never a dull moment.


The slagging will be some craic!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on February 23, 2016, 04:23:28 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on February 23, 2016, 04:14:29 PM
Not sure what to make of this. The build up has been very quiet. I don't know how many Irish had planned to make the trip - if a lot I think McGregor stays on the card to keep the fans happy and get paid.
he will be fighting on on UFC 200 regardless and if he is healthy now then take a fight. Diaz should be able to step in at 170 on 2 weeks notice. Cerrone isn't a smart fight he will take CMG down, Diaz wont  - he will try to stand and box and has the hands to do so....
never a dull moment.

It's a 155lb fight though. Or it was. Can't imagine McGregor wants to go too much higher. Cerrone fought at 170 a few days ago – a cut to 155 would be horrific. He's said he wants it apparently though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 23, 2016, 04:29:09 PM
Quote from: gallsman on February 23, 2016, 04:23:28 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on February 23, 2016, 04:14:29 PM
Not sure what to make of this. The build up has been very quiet. I don't know how many Irish had planned to make the trip - if a lot I think McGregor stays on the card to keep the fans happy and get paid.
he will be fighting on on UFC 200 regardless and if he is healthy now then take a fight. Diaz should be able to step in at 170 on 2 weeks notice. Cerrone isn't a smart fight he will take CMG down, Diaz wont  - he will try to stand and box and has the hands to do so....
never a dull moment.

It's a 155lb fight though. Or it was. Can't imagine McGregor wants to go too much higher. Cerrone fought at 170 a few days ago – a cut to 155 would be horrific. He's said he wants it apparently though.

Catch weights exist in UFC?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on February 23, 2016, 04:33:06 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 23, 2016, 04:29:09 PM
Quote from: gallsman on February 23, 2016, 04:23:28 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on February 23, 2016, 04:14:29 PM
Not sure what to make of this. The build up has been very quiet. I don't know how many Irish had planned to make the trip - if a lot I think McGregor stays on the card to keep the fans happy and get paid.
he will be fighting on on UFC 200 regardless and if he is healthy now then take a fight. Diaz should be able to step in at 170 on 2 weeks notice. Cerrone isn't a smart fight he will take CMG down, Diaz wont  - he will try to stand and box and has the hands to do so....
never a dull moment.

It's a 155lb fight though. Or it was. Can't imagine McGregor wants to go too much higher. Cerrone fought at 170 a few days ago – a cut to 155 would be horrific. He's said he wants it apparently though.

Catch weights exist in UFC?

They've happened, generally when someone misses weight. It would be mental for Cerrone to make 155. That and the fact he got KOd for the belt in 66 seconds really should rule him out of a fight of this magnitude.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 23, 2016, 04:36:28 PM
Quote from: gallsman on February 23, 2016, 04:33:06 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 23, 2016, 04:29:09 PM
Quote from: gallsman on February 23, 2016, 04:23:28 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on February 23, 2016, 04:14:29 PM
Not sure what to make of this. The build up has been very quiet. I don't know how many Irish had planned to make the trip - if a lot I think McGregor stays on the card to keep the fans happy and get paid.
he will be fighting on on UFC 200 regardless and if he is healthy now then take a fight. Diaz should be able to step in at 170 on 2 weeks notice. Cerrone isn't a smart fight he will take CMG down, Diaz wont  - he will try to stand and box and has the hands to do so....
never a dull moment.

It's a 155lb fight though. Or it was. Can't imagine McGregor wants to go too much higher. Cerrone fought at 170 a few days ago – a cut to 155 would be horrific. He's said he wants it apparently though.

Catch weights exist in UFC?

They've happened, generally when someone misses weight. It would be mental for Cerrone to make 155. That and the fact he got KOd for the belt in 66 seconds really should rule him out of a fight of this magnitude.

1 final pay day! $500k possibly?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Longshanks on February 23, 2016, 04:42:23 PM
Seems Anthony pettis now would be interested judging by what he has said on twitter, even though he is off two loses think he would make a better fight..
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on February 23, 2016, 04:44:52 PM
whoever gets the fight will make a flat fee like Chad Mendes got when he stepped in for Jose Aldo.
I don't think CMG wants Cerrone - Cerrone can really wrestle and he is long for the weight - CMG did well with Mendes because of his range advantage and length on the ground
Diaz although a whizz on the ground will stand and trade with CMG
Pettis would be a good option as he prefers to stand-  I think CMG beats him
Who knows what the UFC will do but you can bet CMG has a big say in the opponent....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on February 23, 2016, 05:20:25 PM
Supposedly broken 5th metatarsal or a broken baby toe...something tells me McGregor will be at the oul slaggin'!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on February 23, 2016, 05:54:26 PM
Pettis is on medical suspension I believe. Took a bit of a pasting from Alvarez.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 23, 2016, 10:19:50 PM
Looking like Diaz!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on February 23, 2016, 10:48:33 PM
he's top of the list  -i just hope he isn't stupid and holds out for more money when they are likely offering him 15 times his normal purse
Cerrone said he is already cutting weight - 2 weeks is plenty of time for an athlete like him - his only weakness is his stomach - he has internal injuries that affect his ability to take solid contact there - RDA showed it - Pettis showed it - CMG could show it too if he stayed off the ground.  In Cerrone's last fight he immediately went to the ground because the other "cowboy" was getting the better of him in the standup.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on February 24, 2016, 06:39:13 AM
Diaz it is. How's that going to work out for McGregor?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 24, 2016, 08:33:17 AM
Are they fighting at 170??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on February 24, 2016, 08:35:59 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 24, 2016, 08:33:17 AM
Are they fighting at 170??

Yep. Apparently proposal was originally 160 but Diaz said he couldn't make that in 11 days and said 165, which McGregor responded to by saying have it at 170.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tyrone Gaa on February 24, 2016, 08:43:16 AM
Great fight, keeps the interest high.  The build up will be good as both engage in the trash talking.  RDA tried to avoid that, cant see Nate taking the same approach.  Roll on fight night
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: TF15 on February 24, 2016, 10:04:43 AM
Surely there will be a rehydration limit imposed, McGregor would have walked into the octagon at 170 fighting at 155 but surely Diaz coukdnt land in at 185 if he wanted? Feel for McGregor having this change of plan again and hope it doesn't cause a loss. I can't see how Conor goes back to 145 after this to fight Edgar. The weight cut will be brutal for him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on February 24, 2016, 10:18:14 AM
The build-up alone to this fight is gonna be immense!

Can't wait!

Kavanagh has came out with the best line so far "You've seen him on salads, no wait to see him on steak."
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 24, 2016, 12:36:43 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on February 24, 2016, 10:18:14 AM
The build-up alone to this fight is gonna be immense!

Can't wait!


Kavanagh has came out with the best line so far "You've seen him on salads, no wait to see him on steak."

It's next Saturday night. Not a lot of time for that stuff.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on February 24, 2016, 12:40:45 PM
Press conference today apparently. They can't wait to get the two lads spouting their mixed metaphors at each other.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on February 24, 2016, 03:06:37 PM
I'd say Diaz is about 185 right now if he was willing to cut to 165. I think CMG is taking a risk even with those extra 5lbs. I would have forced Diaz to cut the weight if he wanted the money.
I don't think Diaz has ever been KO'd? Maybe 1 stoppage by TKO but of late he has been very durable.  His reach advantage will give mcgregor trouble and he has great boxing skills.  He doesnt kick that much and when he does theres nothing behind them so look for Mcgregor to use a lot of kicks to maintain range and keep diaz thinking
Diaz is an elite BJJ black belt if he clinches with Conor and brings him to the mat this will be over fast - big risk - fair play they both took the fight - I'll go with Diaz on this one
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on February 24, 2016, 03:29:17 PM
Aye, just the one TKO a few years back.

It'll be a very good scrap. As you say, both like to box.

Can't wait.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on February 24, 2016, 05:32:16 PM
So how is this new weight going to affect McGregor? I've heard and read the original step up to 155 was going to be hard, what's it going to be like at 170?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on February 24, 2016, 05:35:31 PM
I think he will be fine with the weight in this instance. Diaz is a 155'er. He tried campaigning at 170 but the lads there were too strong for him - he is a natural 155'er like McGregor.
dana should not allow him to compete at 170 after this though. - the money fights are at 155 and 145

what was very telling in all of this was the fact that Aldo turned the fight down at 155 or any weight....
Frankie Edgar had a groin strain but I thought he would have battled through it....

Lots of people tried to get the fight but when it comes to ticket sales Diaz was definitely the best choice. It's an intriguing fight with two guys with huge fan bases...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on February 24, 2016, 05:37:48 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on February 24, 2016, 05:35:31 PM
I think he will be fine with the weight in this instance. Diaz is a 155'er. He tried campaigning at 170 but the lads there were too strong for him - he is a natural 155'er like McGregor.
dana should not allow him to compete at 170 after this though. - the money fights are at 155 and 145

what was very telling in all of this was the fact that Aldo turned the fight down at 155 or any weight....
Frankie Edgar had a groin strain but I thought he would have battled through it....

Lots of people tried to get the fight but when it comes to ticket sales Diaz was definitely the best choice. It's an intriguing fight with two guys with huge fan bases...

Frankie isn't happy with Dana after what he said about him turning the fight down.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 24, 2016, 08:58:58 PM
McGregor Diaz press conference on UFC.com starts at 9pm.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on February 24, 2016, 09:09:38 PM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/2/24/11107144/ufc-196-press-conference-video (http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/2/24/11107144/ufc-196-press-conference-video)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 25, 2016, 06:24:46 AM
Diaz can hardly string a sentence together. McGregor didn't like it when he was accused of taking drugs. Got wound up by that and rightly so.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 01, 2016, 10:52:29 PM
This is the lad behind all the bravado that you'll find anytime the camera's aren't rolling:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ZofBjfcDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ZofBjfcDQ)

He's all about the gold coin like I've said many times before. And he's raking it in - fair play to him I say
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 02, 2016, 02:34:37 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 01, 2016, 10:52:29 PM
This is the lad behind all the bravado that you'll find anytime the camera's aren't rolling:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ZofBjfcDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ZofBjfcDQ)

He's all about the gold coin like I've said many times before. And he's raking it in - fair play to him I say

But the Camera is rolling :) This is just more PR.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 02, 2016, 04:56:56 PM
I'm comparing his personality and attitude here to when it isn't.....
I'm saying this is what he is like normally.  He says loads of stuff to get bums on seats and sell PPVs but he's a good lad.  He understands the prize fighting game, the showmanship.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on March 03, 2016, 09:18:00 AM
You reckon McGregor will be beat Iceman if Diaz gets him on the mat? Interesting, bookies have him at 2/7 but what would they know!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 03, 2016, 11:31:28 AM
Almost no chance of this fight going near the mat I imagine. Diaz is a very, very good boxer. He's also a lunatic who loves a brawl. I think he'll come out and meet McGregor in the middle right from the bell.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 03, 2016, 06:42:01 PM
I hope for McGregors sake thats exactly what Diaz does.  The thing with these elite BJJ guys is they don't have the wrestling or judo background to take the fight to the ground.  Diaz has some trips and hip throw's from the clinch and can use the fence well but if he can't get McGregor to the ground then this will obviously be decided standing up....

Diaz trains with some elite fighters, his boxing is top drawer and he easily owns the ground in the this matchup.

The key to victory for McGregor will be timing and accuracy - he has been sparring and training to fight - Diaz has not.  I don't think Cardio comes in to play here.
the big question for me is which Diaz shows up? The Diaz who got eaten alive by RDA or the Diaz who sent Michael Johnson packing and beat arguably one of the best stand-up fighters in the 155lb division  - Donald Cerrone...

Diaz is a good bet.

The bookies also had Holly Holm as a massive underdog and look what happened there.

With a full camp and injury free I would have my money on Diaz every time and I'm a big McGregor fan!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 03, 2016, 10:45:13 PM
Diaz was training for a marathon out triathlon or something I read when he got the call. He's always kept himself in shape so cardio shouldn't be an issue for him. I don't think the fight goes beyond the 2nd though, so cardio definitely isn't going to matter!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on March 03, 2016, 11:48:12 PM

Diaz looked an alarmingly bigger man at the face off earlier
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 04, 2016, 12:02:49 PM
Diaz 3/1 with PP??

Surely that's worth a punt especially given the size differential!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: johnneycool on March 04, 2016, 01:20:20 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 04, 2016, 12:02:49 PM
Diaz 3/1 with PP??

Surely that's worth a punt especially given the size differential!

Aye but McGregor has busted his right hand don't you know!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 04, 2016, 01:24:40 PM
Nate is good craic, however the lad must have an IQ of about 5.

His comment about the gazelle was class  ;D ;D

I can see this going to the 3rd, Diaz is a scrapper!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Declan on March 04, 2016, 01:44:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTzhVVIjLCE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTzhVVIjLCE)

Some craic
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 04, 2016, 02:25:30 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 04, 2016, 01:24:40 PM
Nate is good craic, however the lad must have an IQ of about 5.

His comment about the gazelle was class  ;D ;D

I can see this going to the 3rd, Diaz is a scrapper!

For a lad who comes across as quite simple, Diaz had the best line of the night with "playing touch butt in the park with that dork with the ponytail" when talking about Ido Portal. McGregor was very good too with less babbling than usual.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 04, 2016, 04:04:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on March 04, 2016, 02:25:30 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 04, 2016, 01:24:40 PM
Nate is good craic, however the lad must have an IQ of about 5.

His comment about the gazelle was class  ;D ;D

I can see this going to the 3rd, Diaz is a scrapper!

For a lad who comes across as quite simple, Diaz had the best line of the night with "playing touch butt in the park with that dork with the ponytail" when talking about Ido Portal. McGregor was very good too with less babbling than usual.
It's all persona. A protection mechanism for where he lives. I don't know of too many elite athletes who are simple or stupid... Diaz is a laugh - his one liner definitely stole the show you're right. I like both Diaz brothers.
Can't wait for the weigh ins to see what kind of shape Diaz is in and for the actual fight to see if Nate is injured or capable. If Diaz is in shape and not injured that 3/1 bet is a great one....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on March 04, 2016, 08:17:32 PM
What time will this be on
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 04, 2016, 08:20:48 PM
10pm EST 3am GMT card starts - I'd say the fight is on at 5am or later Sunday morning  - Ireland time
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 04, 2016, 08:51:24 PM
Yeah, at 193 the Weidman-Rockhold fight didn't start until after 5 Irish time so McGregor fight could be closer to 6.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 05, 2016, 12:37:53 AM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/3/4/11144534/ufc-196-weigh-in-video (http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/3/4/11144534/ufc-196-weigh-in-video)

Link to the weighins if anyone's interested - just over there.

diaz weighed in with Abs... he's in shape and fired up.

CMG weighs in 2lbs under the limit - fired up and ready to fight.....
i'ts gnnna be good!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 05, 2016, 02:54:54 PM
Did someone say Diaz has a rep for trash talk? He can hardly talk never mind trash talk. McGregor is hilarious and is really starting to wind Diaz up like on that CNBC interview. All Diaz can say is 'f**k you'.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 05, 2016, 05:46:56 PM
that CNBC "interview" was the stupidest thing I've ever seen
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 05, 2016, 07:12:57 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 05, 2016, 02:54:54 PM
Did someone say Diaz has a rep for trash talk? He can hardly talk never mind trash talk. McGregor is hilarious and is really starting to wind Diaz up like on that CNBC interview. All Diaz can say is 'f**k you'.

That's very subjective. A lot of what McGregor says his often moronic and repetitive, although he has become more polished. As said above, Diaz probably had the best line of the press conference. I also get the sense that he actually means it all the countless times he says he doesn't give a f**k!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 05, 2016, 07:54:42 PM
It is very subjective but I don't take it seriously at all. I'm not even a big fan of ufc but I like trash talkers and find them entertaining. McGregor is a very good trash talker and sells fights like no other. Fair played to the fella, he's made a fortune from bringing a bit of entertainment to things. i was a bit fan of the Rock and stone cold etc back in the day and McGregor reminds me of that.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 05, 2016, 07:55:41 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 05, 2016, 05:46:56 PM
that CNBC "interview" was the stupidest thing I've ever seen
It was very stupid but I found it funny.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gold on March 06, 2016, 12:30:02 AM
"How about that coffee? "  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on March 06, 2016, 05:19:01 AM
Just got up for this fight... better be good!! :-*
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on March 06, 2016, 05:33:23 AM
Quote from: Medic on March 06, 2016, 05:19:01 AM
Just got up for this fight... better be good!! :-*
+1!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 06, 2016, 05:36:13 AM
Holly Holm beat Rousey well then beaten tonight by Tate who was well beaten by Rousey.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 06, 2016, 05:44:42 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 06, 2016, 05:36:13 AM
Holly Holm beat Rousey well then beaten tonight by Tate who was well beaten by Rousey.

Was very sloppy by Holm to get caught so late as Tate's takedown attempts were getting very desperate. Great choke though and took serious skill and strength to hold it when Holly tried to flip her.

Dana will be delighted as they'll much prefer Rousey to come back and take belt from Tate rather than Holm.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on March 06, 2016, 05:46:47 AM
I've got my popcorn ready! C'mon mysticMac! Let's go champ! ;D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: reddgnhand on March 06, 2016, 05:52:53 AM
Not into this shite up with the son but did the poppy wearing Irishman come into the arena to the tune of foggy dew. I've had a few.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: reddgnhand on March 06, 2016, 06:03:34 AM
Must have been hit with a long range gun.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 06, 2016, 06:06:28 AM
Great fight!

McGregor will do well to talk his way out of this one!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 06, 2016, 06:06:32 AM
McGregor didn't live up to his hype tonight. Foolish to more up the weights.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 06, 2016, 06:07:38 AM
Diaz is a tight man.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on March 06, 2016, 06:13:04 AM
The train slams to a halt  :-\
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 06:15:05 AM
So what's the next bandwagon then lads?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stiffler on March 06, 2016, 06:16:30 AM
Bullshit can only bring you so far.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2016, 08:08:57 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 06:15:05 AM
So what's the next bandwagon then lads?
Euros too far away? May put this one back in the garage for repairs.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 08:36:06 AM
Interesting that McGregor tapped out while Holly Holm didn't!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2016, 08:50:52 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 08:36:06 AM
Interesting that McGregor tapped out while Holly Holm didn't!
Are you calling him out?  ;D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 08:57:36 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2016, 08:50:52 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 08:36:06 AM
Interesting that McGregor tapped out while Holly Holm didn't!
Are you calling him out?  ;D

;D Pretty much. I'd never slag a fighter off for tapping out but I have a vague memory of him saying he'd never tap out again after a defeat a few years ago. I know it's all bollocks anyway but it's interesting that Holly Holm was prepared to go unconscious rather than tap.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on March 06, 2016, 09:06:15 AM
That's a seriously brutal sport.  Did mcgregor take the foot off the gas in the 2nd thinking it was in the bag and let his guard down? That left on the chin was a clinker

How any man can question any of those hooers tapping out beggars belief! 

Is it a macho thing to not wipe the blood away during rounds?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 09:07:39 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2016, 09:06:15 AM
That's a seriously brutal sport.  Did mcgregor take the foot off the gas in the 2nd thinking it was in the bag and let his guard down? That left on the chin was a clinker

How any man can question any of those hooers tapping out beggars belief! 

Is it a macho thing to not wipe the blood away during rounds?

I wasn't questioning it. I just said, he tapped out and Holm didn't!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on March 06, 2016, 09:12:02 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 09:07:39 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2016, 09:06:15 AM
That's a seriously brutal sport.  Did mcgregor take the foot off the gas in the 2nd thinking it was in the bag and let his guard down? That left on the chin was a clinker

How any man can question any of those hooers tapping out beggars belief! 

Is it a macho thing to not wipe the blood away during rounds?

I wasn't questioning it. I just said, he tapped out and Holm didn't!

Mon now,  you were having a go. Those boys are brave to a point being buck mad.   That's the 2nd ufc fight I've watched and will be prob be my last,  too frigging savage. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 09:16:08 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2016, 09:12:02 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 09:07:39 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2016, 09:06:15 AM
That's a seriously brutal sport.  Did mcgregor take the foot off the gas in the 2nd thinking it was in the bag and let his guard down? That left on the chin was a clinker

How any man can question any of those hooers tapping out beggars belief! 

Is it a macho thing to not wipe the blood away during rounds?

I wasn't questioning it. I just said, he tapped out and Holm didn't!

Mon now,  you were having a go. Those boys are brave to a point being buck mad.   That's the 2nd ufc fight I've watched and will be prob be my last,  too frigging savage.

I seriously wasn't having a go! I think McGregor is great but you have to acknowledge the efforts of a woman who is prepared to let herself go unconscious than tap out. I just found the comparison interesting, especially given what McGregor has said in the past.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on March 06, 2016, 09:24:45 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 09:16:08 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2016, 09:12:02 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 09:07:39 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2016, 09:06:15 AM
That's a seriously brutal sport.  Did mcgregor take the foot off the gas in the 2nd thinking it was in the bag and let his guard down? That left on the chin was a clinker

How any man can question any of those hooers tapping out beggars belief! 

Is it a macho thing to not wipe the blood away during rounds?

I wasn't questioning it. I just said, he tapped out and Holm didn't!

Mon now,  you were having a go. Those boys are brave to a point being buck mad.   That's the 2nd ufc fight I've watched and will be prob be my last,  too frigging savage.

I seriously wasn't having a go! I think McGregor is great but you have to acknowledge the efforts of a woman who is prepared to let herself go unconscious than tap out. I just found the comparison interesting, especially given what McGregor has said in the past.

Fair enough.  I watched that Holm fight as well,    didn't know that was allowed.  Barbaric
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: HiMucker on March 06, 2016, 09:25:22 AM
Holly Holm was definitely trying to tap out. 
Mc Gregor was in complete control up to point he got rocked with a big left.  His legs went and to be honest I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did after that.  I think Diaz was also wrecked or would have been able to finish it straight away after nailing him. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on March 06, 2016, 09:58:44 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on February 24, 2016, 03:06:37 PM
I'd say Diaz is about 185 right now if he was willing to cut to 165. I think CMG is taking a risk even with those extra 5lbs. I would have forced Diaz to cut the weight if he wanted the money.
I don't think Diaz has ever been KO'd? Maybe 1 stoppage by TKO but of late he has been very durable.  His reach advantage will give mcgregor trouble and he has great boxing skills.  He doesnt kick that much and when he does theres nothing behind them so look for Mcgregor to use a lot of kicks to maintain range and keep diaz thinking
Diaz is an elite BJJ black belt if he clinches with Conor and brings him to the mat this will be over fast - big risk - fair play they both took the fight - I'll go with Diaz on this one
Iceman called it all last week. Fair play.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Angus on March 06, 2016, 10:01:02 AM
What happened between McGregor and Diaz was really a shock to everyone. Though, Diaz' size is really an advantage.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on March 06, 2016, 10:09:11 AM
I think post-fight McGregor once again showed a lot of class. His comments about the Aldo tweet made Aldo look pretty pathetic.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 10:13:34 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on March 06, 2016, 10:09:11 AM
I think post-fight McGregor once again showed a lot of class. His comments about the Aldo tweet made Aldo look pretty pathetic.

To be fair, he has always been magnanimous in victory and took the defeat with class.  Missed that about Aldo, what did he say?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 06, 2016, 11:29:15 AM
Quote from: Angus on March 06, 2016, 10:01:02 AM
What happened between McGregor and Diaz was really a shock to everyone. Though, Diaz' size is really an advantage.

Not really, it was called on here and in plenty of other places that if it went to the mat, it was Diaz's fight.

Long term, McGregor will have to forget about Robbie Lawler and most likely an immediate LW title shot. He'll probably be forced to make the cut to FW again to fight Edgar at 200 (which I don't think he'd ever planned on) before getting any sort of look at LW. If he vacates, he'll have to take and win a few at LW (Poirier rematch maybe?) before getting a shot.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on March 06, 2016, 11:32:58 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cc3I1yiWEAE2lDz.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on March 06, 2016, 11:44:41 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 10:13:34 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on March 06, 2016, 10:09:11 AM
I think post-fight McGregor once again showed a lot of class. His comments about the Aldo tweet made Aldo look pretty pathetic.

To be fair, he has always been magnanimous in victory and took the defeat with class.  Missed that about Aldo, what did he say?
Aldo tweeted
"See ya at #UFC200, @TheNotoriousMMA. Your fairy tale is over. You got nowhere to run now. Time to a rematch, p***y."

McGregor said:
"He had an opportunity to show up here and he didn't... he could be sitting where Nate is sitting right now. He said any time, any place, anywhere and then it wasn't any time, any place, anywhere.
"Now another man gets a victory over me and he celebrates it, that's the sign of a loser, that's the sign of a runner-up... that's not the sign of a champion."
"I know there's a lot of people celebrating this, celebrating another man's victory. I cannot understand that.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on March 06, 2016, 11:47:31 AM
Fighter reactions to Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYnzuyhcZJA
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: trileacman on March 06, 2016, 11:56:39 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on March 06, 2016, 11:44:41 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 10:13:34 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on March 06, 2016, 10:09:11 AM
I think post-fight McGregor once again showed a lot of class. His comments about the Aldo tweet made Aldo look pretty pathetic.

To be fair, he has always been magnanimous in victory and took the defeat with class.  Missed that about Aldo, what did he say?
Aldo tweeted
"See ya at #UFC200, @TheNotoriousMMA. Your fairy tale is over. You got nowhere to run now. Time to a rematch, p***y."

McGregor said:
"He had an opportunity to show up here and he didn't... he could be sitting where Nate is sitting right now. He said any time, any place, anywhere and then it wasn't any time, any place, anywhere.
"Now another man gets a victory over me and he celebrates it, that's the sign of a loser, that's the sign of a runner-up... that's not the sign of a champion."
"I know there's a lot of people celebrating this, celebrating another man's victory. I cannot understand that.
People like to see you beat because you're a mouth. McGregor not "understanding" the fact people don't like him is like Ricey wondering what he ever did to annoy people.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 06, 2016, 12:02:52 PM
I think mcgregor is right here though...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: TF15 on March 06, 2016, 12:45:45 PM
When McGregor reflects on his life from a few years ago I'm sure it'll soften the blow. He's no longer on the dole aspiring to fight in the UFC. He's a multi millionaire who is still champion at 145.

His confidence was ultimately his downfall. It was foolish to take the fight not making Diaz cut any weight. He gave Diaz maximum opportunity to perform to his best. Whileeee was noble it was foolish as he was moving up a weight class. Diaz size and reach advantage had a massive advantage as McGregor had to look inside for uppercuts rather than straight shots as Diaz reach was beating him to the punch. Also, McGregors power clearly didn't carry the same effectiveness at the higher weight. Diaz never looked dazed or in trouble.

Lastly, McGregor rated his chin too highly. Standing and trading with a naturally bigger man with little to no defence is career suicide. He can do it at 145 as the shots don't trouble him but with bigger men you can't do that.

A humbling night for McGregor, how this affects his persona/mind games/mystique will be interesting. If I'm him I stay at 145 for as long as he can physically make weight. Weight classes in MMA are much more difficult to jump than in boxing and should be respected.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 06, 2016, 01:42:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 06, 2016, 12:02:52 PM
I think mcgregor is right here though...

Definitely. Aldo issued a ridiculous statement in January and then backed away when he got the call. To subsequently come out with that was a bit sad and desperate.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GJL on March 06, 2016, 02:12:07 PM
Fair play to iceman. Called it well.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: fearsiuil on March 06, 2016, 04:38:46 PM
Quote from: GJL on March 06, 2016, 02:12:07 PM
Fair play to iceman. Called it well.
+1
Did someone post that Diaz could be got pre fight at 3/1? Didn't take it as no idea about this MMA.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 06, 2016, 05:03:16 PM
Quote from: fearsiuil on March 06, 2016, 04:38:46 PM
Quote from: GJL on March 06, 2016, 02:12:07 PM
Fair play to iceman. Called it well.
+1
Did someone post that Diaz could be got pre fight at 3/1? Didn't take it as no idea about this MMA.

Yip PP had him at that. I thought McGregor would win but Diaz definitely not 3/1.

McGregors next move will be interesting... Will he still be able to do all the trash talking?? Surely his street cred is blown with this loss!!

Maybe he'll go away and learn to put his hands up rather than concentrating on movement so much!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on March 06, 2016, 05:43:23 PM
Its a serious kick in the bollox for Mc Gregor.

Diaz had practically no preparation for this fight. If Mc Gregor lost against a Diaz backed full camp then you'd say fair enough.

Diaz is a an average  MMA fighter. He's had more defeats then anyone who could be deemed to be a top fighter.

Dos Anjos will knock him out

This was a PR disaster for Mc Gregor  make no mistake about it.

He now has to slum it back in the featherweight division for one more fight at least and wait. I doubt very much he'll get a tilt at Dos Anjos before he fights either Cerrone or Pettis first. He'll hammer anyone in the featherweight division but all lightweights will fancy their chances now. lightweight is by far the most competitive weight class in the MMA.

He's at least 12 months away from a lightweight title shot and probably longer really.

Don't be fooled that Diaz is some brilliant MMA fighter. He's not- he's average on his best day. Mc Gregor never hurt him really - Diaz rocked Mc Gregor a couple of times.

I've nothing against Mc Gregor- trash talking is part of the fight game and always has been. Problem is when you take it it extremes you need to win.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on March 07, 2016, 08:11:27 AM
Quote from: fearsiuil on March 06, 2016, 04:38:46 PM
Quote from: GJL on March 06, 2016, 02:12:07 PM
Fair play to iceman. Called it well.
+1
Did someone post that Diaz could be got pre fight at 3/1? Didn't take it as no idea about this MMA.
I know Diaz was 18/1 to win in R1, because I had a tenner on it!
I think he was more than 20/1 to win in R2

I don't think this is as big a setback for McGregor as some are making out. The next one is the big one, and he'll still be a star attraction at UFC200. If he wins that he'll be back on track and Diaz will be put well behind him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 09:09:50 AM
Quote from: Hound on March 07, 2016, 08:11:27 AM
Quote from: fearsiuil on March 06, 2016, 04:38:46 PM
Quote from: GJL on March 06, 2016, 02:12:07 PM
Fair play to iceman. Called it well.
+1
Did someone post that Diaz could be got pre fight at 3/1? Didn't take it as no idea about this MMA.
I know Diaz was 18/1 to win in R1, because I had a tenner on it!
I think he was more than 20/1 to win in R2

I don't think this is as big a setback for McGregor as some are making out. The next one is the big one, and he'll still be a star attraction at UFC200. If he wins that he'll be back on track and Diaz will be put well behind him.

Not so much. I'd put plenty of money on idea that if McGregor has KOd him, they'd skip dos Anjos and the LW belt altogether (for now) and give him Lawler at UFC 200. If this was the case, you could pretty much be certain that he wouldn't be seen at 145 again.

Now he has to go back to 145 (facing a cut he admits is tough, after having packed on a few lbs of muscle and Kavanagh is on record as saying he doesn't want him doing again) and face Edgar or Aldo. Either of them will give him a tough fight (like Saturday, especially if they get him on the ground). If he wins, assuming he still wants LW belt, he'll have to wait his turn and probably take a few contender fights against the likes of Pettis, Cerrone or Alvarez before getting a title shot. The WW dream is over. Lawler actually laughs in title fights when big welters hit him flush on the chin. He would walk through McGregor's best much more easily than Diaz did.

He's still FW champion and has plenty going for him, but make no mistake, Saturday is a huge setback. Most importantly, it likely somewhat diminishes how much he can bully Dana and the Fertittas.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on March 07, 2016, 09:34:53 AM
Bit of talk earlier about him tapping out whilst Holm didn't.

Is it not the case that because he tapped out he can fight again quicker whereas Holm will have to wait out an injury period?

Sensible approach.

Anyways, as a wise man once said, "you can't grow muscles on your chin".
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 10:07:01 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 07, 2016, 09:34:53 AM
Bit of talk earlier about him tapping out whilst Holm didn't.

Is it not the case that because he tapped out he can fight again quicker whereas Holm will have to wait out an injury period?

Sensible approach.

Anyways, as a wise man once said, "you can't grow muscles on your chin".

I wouldn't pay too much attention to the tapping/not tapping thing and I certainly wouldn't hold it against McGregor that he did. In saying that however, I very much doubt it was a conscious decision to allow him to avoid a medical suspension. He was getting the life choked out of him - consciously thinking about anything other than how or where to draw your next breath would be madness. Even with Holm's refusal to tap, I'm not so sure she wasn't trying to. Those little air punches right before she passed out were very strange to watch.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 07, 2016, 10:08:12 AM
What weight would McGregor and Diaz have been coming in at on the night?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 10:11:28 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 07, 2016, 10:08:12 AM
What weight would McGregor and Diaz have been coming in at on the night?

I'd say McGregor not too far above the 168 he weighed in at, maybe put a pound or two on. Dunno about Diaz.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laceer on March 07, 2016, 10:15:09 AM
Very exciting and brutal fight. McGregor had Diaz badly opened up from early on - he was catching him regularly but where a smaller man might have gone down to those shots, Diaz brushed them off. When McGregor tried to take him to the ground you just knew he was gone. Looking forward to seeing his next move, and whether he calms down on the trash talking.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on March 07, 2016, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 10:07:01 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 07, 2016, 09:34:53 AM
Bit of talk earlier about him tapping out whilst Holm didn't.

Is it not the case that because he tapped out he can fight again quicker whereas Holm will have to wait out an injury period?

Sensible approach.

Anyways, as a wise man once said, "you can't grow muscles on your chin".

I wouldn't pay too much attention to the tapping/not tapping thing and I certainly wouldn't hold it against McGregor that he did. In saying that however, I very much doubt it was a conscious decision to allow him to avoid a medical suspension. He was getting the life choked out of him - consciously thinking about anything other than how or where to draw your next breath would be madness. Even with Holm's refusal to tap, I'm not so sure she wasn't trying to. Those little air punches right before she passed out were very strange to watch.

Yeah, I definitely think Holm was trying to tap out too.  Was hard to watch for a minute or so until you seen her getting back on her feet.  Tate even looked worried.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 10:21:27 AM
Quote from: laceer on March 07, 2016, 10:15:09 AM
Very exciting and brutal fight. McGregor had Diaz badly opened up from early on - he was catching him regularly but where a smaller man might have gone down to those shots, Diaz brushed them off. When McGregor tried to take him to the ground you just knew he was gone. Looking forward to seeing his next move, and whether he calms down on the trash talking.

Yeah, that was just sheer desperation as he realised he couldn't make it to the end of the round without taking another big shot. It was almost laughable how easily Diaz stuffed the attempt and once McGregor was on the mat it was over.

What was infuriating for me was that McGregor obviously got rocked with about two and half mins to go and managed to recover somewhat. They clinched against the cage and traded a few knees but McGregor seemed to have recovered and on the break got some lovely combos in. After this, rather than heeding the warning of the shot he took, he continued keeping his hands low and Diaz got another big shot in, which effectively ended the fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 07, 2016, 10:35:55 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 10:11:28 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 07, 2016, 10:08:12 AM
What weight would McGregor and Diaz have been coming in at on the night?

I'd say McGregor not too far above the 168 he weighed in at, maybe put a pound or two on. Dunno about Diaz.

I was thinking McGregor wouldn't be too much higher than 170 but was wondering if Diaz was as heavy as 180.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 11:12:01 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 07, 2016, 10:35:55 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 10:11:28 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 07, 2016, 10:08:12 AM
What weight would McGregor and Diaz have been coming in at on the night?

I'd say McGregor not too far above the 168 he weighed in at, maybe put a pound or two on. Dunno about Diaz.

I was thinking McGregor wouldn't be too much higher than 170 but was wondering if Diaz was as heavy as 180.

He's a big lightweight but not a huge welter. Didn't look too dehydrated at weigh in and think he came in at 169? Would be strange to lose the extra pound if struggling to make weight. Heavier than McGregor certainly but I don't think he'd have been as high as 180.

Weight is an interesting point, because McGregor looked banjaxed even before he got hit. He talked about energy efficiency at press conference but missing punches and kicks is part and parcel of fighting. He shouldn't have gassed so quickly, so the decision to go all the way to 170 when it want necessary looks even more foolish.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on March 07, 2016, 11:19:13 AM
Good call Iceman. Looking forward to your assessment on here!

Gonna take the chance and book Vegas for UFC200 July 9th in the next week or two with a few other men, McGregor bound to be on the card? Going by the UFC Fan websites & social media, it's gonna be Edgar or Aldo at FW?

Last July was my 1st time in LV which I suppose was always gonig to be good regardless of the fight, but it was the best week of our lives which has to be repeated this year!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Longshanks on March 07, 2016, 11:22:06 AM
Mc Gregor seemed to be gassed a minute into the second round which is unlike him, unsure if it was the weight or what? I dont think he is done at this level and will come back surely as still fairly young at 27 but yes a setback for sure. personally think 155 is a good level for him but he will have to drop again to 145 to fight aldo which after being at this weigh will be very hard..
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 11:37:16 AM
Quote from: Longshanks on March 07, 2016, 11:22:06 AM
Mc Gregor seemed to be gassed a minute into the second round which is unlike him, unsure if it was the weight or what? I dont think he is done at this level and will come back surely as still fairly young at 27 but yes a setback for sure. personally think 155 is a good level for him but he will have to drop again to 145 to fight aldo which after being at this weigh will be very hard..

LW should be fine but the idea that he can complete at WW should be forgotten about immediately.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: rosnarun on March 07, 2016, 11:45:43 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 07, 2016, 09:34:53 AM
Bit of talk earlier about him tapping out whilst Holm didn't.

Is it not the case that because he tapped out he can fight again quicker whereas Holm will have to wait out an injury period?

Sensible approach.

Anyways, as a wise man once said, "you can't grow muscles on your chin".
true
he who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 07, 2016, 12:34:35 PM
I love McGregor, but I find myself using the argument that he lost because he was fighting a bigger man, but then the neutral in me is saying that while that is true it is also the case for McGregor in nearly all of his victories as he has had basically the same advantage over his opponents that Diaz had over him. 

As for Aldo, his comment is cringeworthy.  I also don't see why he should get a rematch as its not as if the first fight was close. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on March 07, 2016, 12:44:28 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 07, 2016, 12:34:35 PM
I love McGregor, but I find myself using the argument that he lost because he was fighting a bigger man, but then the neutral in me is saying that while that is true it is also the case for McGregor in nearly all of his victories as he has had basically the same advantage over his opponents that Diaz had over him. 

As for Aldo, his comment is cringeworthy.  I also don't see why he should get a rematch as its not as if the first fight was close.
Ah, but when he's fighting at FW, he isn't fighting blown up flyweights, he's generally fighting other featherweights.
Although I'd say he's going to find it incredibly tough to get to 145 next time.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 12:54:09 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 07, 2016, 12:34:35 PM
I love McGregor, but I find myself using the argument that he lost because he was fighting a bigger man, but then the neutral in me is saying that while that is true it is also the case for McGregor in nearly all of his victories as he has had basically the same advantage over his opponents that Diaz had over him. 

As for Aldo, his comment is cringeworthy.  I also don't see why he should get a rematch as its not as if the first fight was close.

Because he was a champion who went ten years unbeaten and, like can happen, got caught with one punch. That's more than enough reason.

155 is McGregor's home. Diaz is a 155 fighter who has fought at welter. He's not a true welter. He's naturally the bigger man, but not to the extent you'd say it was an insurmountable difference.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on March 07, 2016, 12:55:29 PM
The major alarm for McGregor - and therefore flag for all future opponents - was his lack of ju jitsu nous under pressure. Looking for the mat was a desperate act to see the end of the round but Diaz submitted him in three moves.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 07, 2016, 12:55:58 PM
So the question remains, how would McGregor have faired against RDA?

From what I saw from their fight RDA took Diaz apart.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ballinaman on March 07, 2016, 12:57:25 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on March 07, 2016, 12:55:29 PM
The major alarm for McGregor - and therefore flag for all future opponents - was his lack of ju jitsu nous under pressure. Looking for the mat was a desperate act to see the end of the round but Diaz submitted him in three moves.
I'd say we'll see less muscle ups and hopping over sticks in training from now on, won't surprise me if Ido Portal lad is thrown under a bus.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 01:15:32 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 07, 2016, 12:57:25 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on March 07, 2016, 12:55:29 PM
The major alarm for McGregor - and therefore flag for all future opponents - was his lack of ju jitsu nous under pressure. Looking for the mat was a desperate act to see the end of the round but Diaz submitted him in three moves.
I'd say we'll see less muscle ups and hopping over sticks in training from now on, won't surprise me if Ido Portal lad is thrown under a bus.

Not so sure of that. Don't think McGregor being a cocky b**tard who refuses to put his hands up is attributable to Portal.

The fact he can't wrestle is not news. Mendes absolutely dominated him on the ground in their fight and Diaz has genuinely world class BJJ. If the fight ended on the ground it was only ever going one way. Gunnar Nelson is the BJJ star out of SBJ (he's good, too, perhaps because he trained elsewhere) and he was shown up badly against Maia in December. Don't know much about Kavanagh's qualifications as a BJJ coach but I'd be skeptical of anyone claiming a high belt off him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Longshanks on March 07, 2016, 01:34:25 PM
I think just for future fight Mc Gregor does need to do more training so that if it does go to the mat he has more confidence as opponents will see it as a weakness, I'm not saying he has to be great there as everyone has their strenghs but just at the moment he does struggle there.

In saying that he took the risk and it didnt work out, still a great fighter and at 155 against Diaz could be very different.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on March 07, 2016, 02:53:06 PM
enjoyed this comment from thejournal.ie

"I'm anything but a fan, but I'm not blind to his outstanding talent, and in my humble opinion he had that fight in the bag up to the point where he walked into those two big punches, after which I feel Ryan Tubridy would have taken him down."
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 07, 2016, 03:15:03 PM
Quote from: Longshanks on March 07, 2016, 01:34:25 PM
I think just for future fight Mc Gregor does need to do more training so that if it does go to the mat he has more confidence as opponents will see it as a weakness, I'm not saying he has to be great there as everyone has their strenghs but just at the moment he does struggle there.

In saying that he took the risk and it didnt work out, still a great fighter and at 155 against Diaz could be very different.

I imagine that McGregor does a lot of training on the floor as he and Kavanagh are aware of his weak points, which makes the speed of his submission on Saturday all the more shocking. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 07, 2016, 03:40:22 PM
I take absolutely no delight in McGregor losing. He's a champion and I trust he will be back better than ever. McGregor came to SBG with well touted hands. He was a prospect most people heard about 10 years ago on the MMA scene before his first fight.  In ten years though working under a BJJ black belt (John Kavanaugh) he hasn't shown the same growth on the mat.  I'm not saying he isn't good - he just isn't elite and Diaz exposed that at UFC 196.  Mendes nearly had the better of him and Frankie Edgar will beat him at 145 by keeping it on the ground.  I expect to see McGregor take a standup fight at UFC 200 or the matchup with RDA (which I doubt they give to him).
In the Diaz fight he was vintage McGregor. His strikes were unorthodox, he attacked from multiple angles and he had Diaz confused.  But as he landed his trademark left over and over again and Diaz took them there had to be a sense of dread there. I've thrown everything I have at you and you're still coming forward.....
He got caught with some crisp jabs - I think 3 or 4 in the 2nd round before eating Diaz's combo and getting wobbled.  CMG did great to hand in there on the feet as long as he did - even connecitng again with his left.  The take down was to buy time. Diaz welcomed it and had 3 different submission attempts in 10 seconds. He's a whiz on the ground and even if McGregor had been thinking clearly he was going to get submitted.
Comments on here that Diaz is an average fighter are ridiculous. Diaz like McGregor takes the fight when called upon. He hasn't been the most dedicated trainer and is certainly not a company man. He's taken fights injured and lost but he's always showed up to fight.

The UFC is on the back foot now following this loss.  GSP was in the crowd. The 170lb king. How much interest would a GSP McGregor fight at 170 generate? George never made the millions CMG has made. He would be tempted to come back for that and I think that's why he was there (despite Dana's comments). The UFC lost a big money super fight there.....

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on March 07, 2016, 04:05:27 PM
Very good synopsis Iceman.

You seem to be well up on it.  You do any MMA yourself?

Being fairly new to the sport (albeit I got into it only just before the McGregor juggernaut) it sickens my hole when lads who may have been into MMA for a while patronise others who may have only got into it when McGregor came on the scene.  People have to start somewhere, and at the end of the day, the increased viewing figures / participation rates are only gonna benefit the sport.  So fair play to you for posting up some very knowledgeable insight on here, without the patronising tone. (Same for Gallsman) 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 07, 2016, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 07, 2016, 04:05:27 PM
Very good synopsis Iceman.

You seem to be well up on it.  You do any MMA yourself?

Being fairly new to the sport (albeit I got into it only just before the McGregor juggernaut) it sickens my hole when lads who may have been into MMA for a while patronise others who may have only got into it when McGregor came on the scene.  People have to start somewhere, and at the end of the day, the increased viewing figures / participation rates are only gonna benefit the sport.  So fair play to you for posting up some very knowledgeable insight on here, without the patronising tone. (Same for Gallsman) 

Agree with the above. Have learnt loads from here and listening to the Joe Rogan podcasts/interviews on youtube.

Can anyone give their thoughts on how McGregor would have faired against RDA, based on the fact RDA took Diaz apart.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 04:27:55 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 07, 2016, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 07, 2016, 04:05:27 PM
Very good synopsis Iceman.

You seem to be well up on it.  You do any MMA yourself?

Being fairly new to the sport (albeit I got into it only just before the McGregor juggernaut) it sickens my hole when lads who may have been into MMA for a while patronise others who may have only got into it when McGregor came on the scene.  People have to start somewhere, and at the end of the day, the increased viewing figures / participation rates are only gonna benefit the sport.  So fair play to you for posting up some very knowledgeable insight on here, without the patronising tone. (Same for Gallsman) 

Agree with the above. Have learnt loads from here and listening to the Joe Rogan podcasts/interviews on youtube.

Can anyone give their thoughts on how McGregor would have faired against RDA, based on the fact RDA took Diaz apart.

Take a lot of what Rogan says with a pinch of salt. I find him insufferable and he flip flips depending on who he has on as guests.

Another thing that I thought was very noticeable in the fight was that despite McGregor's postulating about precision after the Aldo fight, in his attempts to close the gap, he threw a lot of wild overhand lefts, and naturally missed with a lot more than he landed.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 07, 2016, 04:28:19 PM
I don't think there is anywhere else on earth with as many MMA/UFC experts as Ireland and in particular the gaaboard  ;)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 07, 2016, 04:29:28 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 07, 2016, 04:05:27 PM
Very good synopsis Iceman.

You seem to be well up on it.  You do any MMA yourself?

Being fairly new to the sport (albeit I got into it only just before the McGregor juggernaut) it sickens my hole when lads who may have been into MMA for a while patronise others who may have only got into it when McGregor came on the scene.  People have to start somewhere, and at the end of the day, the increased viewing figures / participation rates are only gonna benefit the sport.  So fair play to you for posting up some very knowledgeable insight on here, without the patronising tone. (Same for Gallsman)

It's funny Gs man - MMA and promotions like the UFC were like a secret club.  I started training MMA in Uni over 14 years ago. We would train in clubs and peoples garages and wherever we could. I got the shit kicked out of me most weeks but I gave back a fair few beatings too and loved it all. I was never a world beater.  You know what we're all like growing up. Having an edge if you ever get in a scrap is key.  An average man who knows how to take a fight to the ground and beat a man there all of a sudden moves up the street fighting rankings.... I never went looking for fights but enjoyed knowing I could handle it if anything happened. I loved the training, the competition.... the exclusivity. 
I think a lot of early fans feel the same.  As the sport gained momentum more people were trained and more people were fans..... fight club wasn't fight club any more- but it's all good.

I'm happy to see the promotions get popular and the fighters getting paid at long last. Locally (back home) I know a fair amount of older fighters and coaches and hear regularly about the talent coming through.  I'm hoping more and more Irish fighters step up.  I don't have anything against SBG but I think they get more credit as a gym than they might deserve.... the only real talent to come out of there is CMG and he had talent before he joined the gym.  there are a lot of unsung heroes and pioneers of irish mma.  fighters like Davey Patterson who coaches still or Rodney Moore from Ballymena and Tom Lamont who were fighting all over the world for small money and little to no exposure.  Try to youtube those guys for some exciting old school fights...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 07, 2016, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 04:27:55 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 07, 2016, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 07, 2016, 04:05:27 PM
Very good synopsis Iceman.

You seem to be well up on it.  You do any MMA yourself?

Being fairly new to the sport (albeit I got into it only just before the McGregor juggernaut) it sickens my hole when lads who may have been into MMA for a while patronise others who may have only got into it when McGregor came on the scene.  People have to start somewhere, and at the end of the day, the increased viewing figures / participation rates are only gonna benefit the sport.  So fair play to you for posting up some very knowledgeable insight on here, without the patronising tone. (Same for Gallsman) 

Agree with the above. Have learnt loads from here and listening to the Joe Rogan podcasts/interviews on youtube.

Can anyone give their thoughts on how McGregor would have faired against RDA, based on the fact RDA took Diaz apart.

Take a lot of what Rogan says with a pinch of salt. I find him insufferable and he flip flips depending on who he has on as guests.

Another thing that I thought was very noticeable in the fight was that despite McGregor's postulating about precision sheet the Aldo fight, in his attempts to close the gap, he threw a lot of wild overhand lefts, and naturally missed with a lot more than he landed.

Cheers GM. Any other blogs/podcasts?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 04:31:58 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 07, 2016, 04:28:19 PM
I don't think there is anywhere else on earth with as many MMA/UFC experts as Ireland and in particular the gaaboard  ;)

Treat yourself to the boards.ie threats about it. I'll happily admit I'm no expert, just watch a bit of the stuff!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 04:33:32 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 07, 2016, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 04:27:55 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 07, 2016, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 07, 2016, 04:05:27 PM
Very good synopsis Iceman.

You seem to be well up on it.  You do any MMA yourself?

Being fairly new to the sport (albeit I got into it only just before the McGregor juggernaut) it sickens my hole when lads who may have been into MMA for a while patronise others who may have only got into it when McGregor came on the scene.  People have to start somewhere, and at the end of the day, the increased viewing figures / participation rates are only gonna benefit the sport.  So fair play to you for posting up some very knowledgeable insight on here, without the patronising tone. (Same for Gallsman) 

Agree with the above. Have learnt loads from here and listening to the Joe Rogan podcasts/interviews on youtube.

Can anyone give their thoughts on how McGregor would have faired against RDA, based on the fact RDA took Diaz apart.

Take a lot of what Rogan says with a pinch of salt. I find him insufferable and he flip flips depending on who he has on as guests.

Another thing that I thought was very noticeable in the fight was that despite McGregor's postulating about precision sheet the Aldo fight, in his attempts to close the gap, he threw a lot of wild overhand lefts, and naturally missed with a lot more than he landed.

Cheers GM. Any other blogs/podcasts?

Ariel Helwani's MMA Hour is great. Pain the arse as 3 hours long every week but he always has top notch guests who give real insight into things. RDA and Kavanagh will be on it today.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 07, 2016, 04:38:17 PM
Quote from: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 04:33:32 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 07, 2016, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 04:27:55 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 07, 2016, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 07, 2016, 04:05:27 PM
Very good synopsis Iceman.

You seem to be well up on it.  You do any MMA yourself?

Being fairly new to the sport (albeit I got into it only just before the McGregor juggernaut) it sickens my hole when lads who may have been into MMA for a while patronise others who may have only got into it when McGregor came on the scene.  People have to start somewhere, and at the end of the day, the increased viewing figures / participation rates are only gonna benefit the sport.  So fair play to you for posting up some very knowledgeable insight on here, without the patronising tone. (Same for Gallsman) 

Agree with the above. Have learnt loads from here and listening to the Joe Rogan podcasts/interviews on youtube.

Can anyone give their thoughts on how McGregor would have faired against RDA, based on the fact RDA took Diaz apart.

Take a lot of what Rogan says with a pinch of salt. I find him insufferable and he flip flips depending on who he has on as guests.

Another thing that I thought was very noticeable in the fight was that despite McGregor's postulating about precision sheet the Aldo fight, in his attempts to close the gap, he threw a lot of wild overhand lefts, and naturally missed with a lot more than he landed.

Cheers GM. Any other blogs/podcasts?

Ariel Helwani's MMA Hour is great. Pain the arse as 3 hours long every week but he always has top notch guests who give real insight into things. RDA and Kavanagh will be on it today.

Good man cheers!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on March 07, 2016, 10:50:26 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 07, 2016, 03:40:22 PM
I take absolutely no delight in McGregor losing. He's a champion and I trust he will be back better than ever. McGregor came to SBG with well touted hands. He was a prospect most people heard about 10 years ago on the MMA scene before his first fight.  In ten years though working under a BJJ black belt (John Kavanaugh) he hasn't shown the same growth on the mat.  I'm not saying he isn't good - he just isn't elite and Diaz exposed that at UFC 196.  Mendes nearly had the better of him and Frankie Edgar will beat him at 145 by keeping it on the ground.  I expect to see McGregor take a standup fight at UFC 200 or the matchup with RDA (which I doubt they give to him).
In the Diaz fight he was vintage McGregor. His strikes were unorthodox, he attacked from multiple angles and he had Diaz confused.  But as he landed his trademark left over and over again and Diaz took them there had to be a sense of dread there. I've thrown everything I have at you and you're still coming forward.....
He got caught with some crisp jabs - I think 3 or 4 in the 2nd round before eating Diaz's combo and getting wobbled.  CMG did great to hand in there on the feet as long as he did - even connecitng again with his left.  The take down was to buy time. Diaz welcomed it and had 3 different submission attempts in 10 seconds. He's a whiz on the ground and even if McGregor had been thinking clearly he was going to get submitted.
Comments on here that Diaz is an average fighter are ridiculous. Diaz like McGregor takes the fight when called upon. He hasn't been the most dedicated trainer and is certainly not a company man. He's taken fights injured and lost but he's always showed up to fight.

The UFC is on the back foot now following this loss.  GSP was in the crowd. The 170lb king. How much interest would a GSP McGregor fight at 170 generate? George never made the millions CMG has made. He would be tempted to come back for that and I think that's why he was there (despite Dana's comments). The UFC lost a big money super fight there.....

I completely stand over the comment that Diaz is world class nowhere except on the deck. 10 Defeats speaks for itself.

Lets' call a spade a spade here.

The UFC got Diaz to fight Mc Gregor because they couldn't believe on any level Diaz would win. He had no camp and hadn't sparred in weeks.

Mc Gregor unfortunately had nothing beyond his stand up game. I think RDA would take him and I'd fancy Pettis too. Mc Gregor would beat Cerrone and the rest of the lightweights I think.

I don't see Aldo on any level beating Conor because stylistically Mc Gregor is a nightmare match-up for Aldo. Edgar is the nightmare match-up for Mc Gregor and that's why he won't get the fight- because he might actually beat him. Aldo definitely won't in my view.

Dana White can't afford Mc Gregor to lose his next fight. He'll be matched up against Aldo in a contest he shouldn't lose. Vacate the belt and move up.

the two belt dream is over and the Welter-weight dream is also over. He'd have to be an idiot to fight at that weight again. But he could get the job done at light-weight...............maybe
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 08, 2016, 03:40:47 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on March 07, 2016, 10:50:26 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 07, 2016, 03:40:22 PM
I take absolutely no delight in McGregor losing. He's a champion and I trust he will be back better than ever. McGregor came to SBG with well touted hands. He was a prospect most people heard about 10 years ago on the MMA scene before his first fight.  In ten years though working under a BJJ black belt (John Kavanaugh) he hasn't shown the same growth on the mat.  I'm not saying he isn't good - he just isn't elite and Diaz exposed that at UFC 196.  Mendes nearly had the better of him and Frankie Edgar will beat him at 145 by keeping it on the ground.  I expect to see McGregor take a standup fight at UFC 200 or the matchup with RDA (which I doubt they give to him).
In the Diaz fight he was vintage McGregor. His strikes were unorthodox, he attacked from multiple angles and he had Diaz confused.  But as he landed his trademark left over and over again and Diaz took them there had to be a sense of dread there. I've thrown everything I have at you and you're still coming forward.....
He got caught with some crisp jabs - I think 3 or 4 in the 2nd round before eating Diaz's combo and getting wobbled.  CMG did great to hand in there on the feet as long as he did - even connecitng again with his left.  The take down was to buy time. Diaz welcomed it and had 3 different submission attempts in 10 seconds. He's a whiz on the ground and even if McGregor had been thinking clearly he was going to get submitted.
Comments on here that Diaz is an average fighter are ridiculous. Diaz like McGregor takes the fight when called upon. He hasn't been the most dedicated trainer and is certainly not a company man. He's taken fights injured and lost but he's always showed up to fight.

The UFC is on the back foot now following this loss.  GSP was in the crowd. The 170lb king. How much interest would a GSP McGregor fight at 170 generate? George never made the millions CMG has made. He would be tempted to come back for that and I think that's why he was there (despite Dana's comments). The UFC lost a big money super fight there.....

I completely stand over the comment that Diaz is world class nowhere except on the deck. 10 Defeats speaks for itself.

Lets' call a spade a spade here.

The UFC got Diaz to fight Mc Gregor because they couldn't believe on any level Diaz would win. He had no camp and hadn't sparred in weeks.

Mc Gregor unfortunately had nothing beyond his stand up game. I think RDA would take him and I'd fancy Pettis too. Mc Gregor would beat Cerrone and the rest of the lightweights I think.

I don't see Aldo on any level beating Conor because stylistically Mc Gregor is a nightmare match-up for Aldo. Edgar is the nightmare match-up for Mc Gregor and that's why he won't get the fight- because he might actually beat him. Aldo definitely won't in my view.

Dana White can't afford Mc Gregor to lose his next fight. He'll be matched up against Aldo in a contest he shouldn't lose. Vacate the belt and move up.

the two belt dream is over and the Welter-weight dream is also over. He'd have to be an idiot to fight at that weight again. But he could get the job done at light-weight...............maybe
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Can a fighter evolve? Can a fighter grow and get better? Does a loss on your record taint your career? Does it halt your progress as a fighter or as a martial artist?
Diaz lost in 2006 by submission when he was 20 years old to Hermes Franca a decorated BJJ black belt
In the next 4 years he won 6 times and lost 3 times. 2 by split decision and 1 unanimous decision and it was close
He dabbled with a move to 170lbs at this point in his career to secure bigger money fights. He didn't fair well against the bigger fighters (back then IV re-hydration was allowed) and was overpowered by Dong Hyun Kim and Rory Mcdonald - both big men for the welterweight division but he went to the decision against both.
He returned to 155lbs and walked through Takanori Gomi, Donald Cerrone and jim Miller.
He lost two fights back to back against Benson Henderson (former champion) and Josh Thompson (only TKO of his career).  Arguably he came in to both of those fights injured and his attitude towards fighting and the UFC at that point in his career were at an all time low. He didn't give a shit to say the least and the UFC was screwing over his brother Nick.
He fought RDA the 155lb champ when he was injured again.  This is all documented.

Watch the Mcgregor fight again and tell me his boxing wasn't good... watch his fight against Michael Johnson and tell me his boxing wasn't good... or against Cerrone....
The reason the UFC and Conor picked this fight is two-fold: they thought McGregor could win and the KNEW adding Diaz to the fight would bring in the most $$$$$$
McGregor had all the tools to beat Nate - he gassed out and made the crazy mistake of taking Nate down. Nate doesn't have takedowns... he has a few trips and a decent throw but he rarely takes people down.

Cerrone has great takedowns and great wrestling (watch Cerrone's last fight when he is getting outmatched in the standup he immediately shoots, out grapples and submits) - same with Pettis - both would beat McGregor. Aldo doesn't have takedowns but if it gets to the ground he has the BJJ skills to stop Conor. If they meet again (and I think they will) that fight is a coin toss - just like the first one.

MMA isn't soccer or any other sport - it's fighting with some regulations.  There is no guaranteed script.  It's why Matt Serra beat GSP, Randy Couture came out of retirement and beat Tim Sylvia - it's why we watch - anything can happen...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 08, 2016, 03:50:55 PM
Super post Iceman - learnt plenty there!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Longshanks on March 08, 2016, 03:56:22 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 08, 2016, 03:50:55 PM
Super post Iceman - learnt plenty there!!!

Totally agree, I'm somewhat of a late comer to the sport but defo enjoying all the fights these days so interesting what you said regarding Diazs previous fights
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 08, 2016, 10:03:44 PM
Went to vegas for this and was not disappointed with the show that was put on. I think i will go again.
That night after the fight, the bold Diaz and his posse landed into the bar we were at and planted themselves at the table beside us.  Some poor lad tried taking a selfie with him, which didn't go down well with some of his crew, which in-turn led to the lad taking a clipping for no real reason. 
Think the highlight of the weekend was meeting Com Parkinson  :P
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 09, 2016, 11:12:24 PM
I agree he should have pushed the cut. even 5lbs or 15lbs down to the 155 lb limit may have helped,  But cutting weight doesn't change the chin and Diaz can take a punch....his only TKO stoppage came from a shin to the chin and he wasn't even out....
You're spot on about McGregor not wanting to disappoint the fans but he's also getting paid extortionate amounts of money he doesn't want to walk away from...

When someone drops out of a fight historically it hurts them financially for a while.... RDA won't get the same negotiating power...or Jose Aldo - Uncle Dana has said as much....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 12, 2016, 09:03:41 PM
Breakdown of last week - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLx65kl_2R8
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 21, 2016, 04:10:55 PM
Lads, serious question, how is this 'sport'?

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Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 21, 2016, 06:27:30 PM
Could you post the International Rules biggest hits video on youtube and ask if it's sport? Or the armagh cavan brawl?
This is an isolated incident of poor decision making by the referee. The fighter in mount actually looked at the ref as if to say are you going to stop this?
A fighter must do two things when under attack like this or it will be stopped by the ref -they have to intelligently defend themselves and try to advance the position.  It actually was the reverse of what happened in this exact fight earlier.  The taller man got rocked but protected himself, tried to get out of the position and the referee let him.  In this case - the fighter on the bottom is a cuban who was adopted by the aussies and the fight was in australia and the ref showed some bias i believe and let it happen....

MMA is fighting AZ. Fighting with some regulations.
It's as close to the purest sport men have engaged in for 1000s of years - who is the best.  It's why you wrestle with your siblings growing up, box with the boys in school and strip to your vest on a saturday night after a few pints and challenge the Lawler's of the local town.....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on March 22, 2016, 01:04:05 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 21, 2016, 04:10:55 PM
Lads, serious question, how is this 'sport'?

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Always been more of a boxing fan myself, but was gifted tickets to go to see the UFC in Krakow while over on a stag last year.  Thoroughly enjoyed the whole event and i must say it converted me a little.  Boxing is still superior for me but i can nolonger cast UFC aside as pile of sh*te.

Anyway, surely if McGregor's next fight is rematch against Diaz then he will have to vacate his title?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 01:12:46 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 21, 2016, 06:27:30 PM
Could you post the International Rules biggest hits video on youtube and ask if it's sport? Or the armagh cavan brawl?
This is an isolated incident of poor decision making by the referee. The fighter in mount actually looked at the ref as if to say are you going to stop this?
A fighter must do two things when under attack like this or it will be stopped by the ref -they have to intelligently defend themselves and try to advance the position.  It actually was the reverse of what happened in this exact fight earlier.  The taller man got rocked but protected himself, tried to get out of the position and the referee let him.  In this case - the fighter on the bottom is a cuban who was adopted by the aussies and the fight was in australia and the ref showed some bias i believe and let it happen....

MMA is fighting AZ. Fighting with some regulations.
It's as close to the purest sport men have engaged in for 1000s of years - who is the best.  It's why you wrestle with your siblings growing up, box with the boys in school and strip to your vest on a saturday night after a few pints and challenge the Lawler's of the local town.....

Are you seriously equating a big hit in the AFL within the rules with this? 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 02:42:15 PM
Sorry Iceman, I'll write a better reply. I was on the phone earlier. I have a problem with MMA because it actively encourages what I would see as pure dirt. Elbowing a lad in the face, knees in the face, holding a lad on the ground, punching on the back of the head, choking, etc etc.  I just have an aversion to beating a guy on the ground who is basically helpless, and that seems to be fine in MMA. I'm not sure which of the Martial Arts actually encourage that?

To me, very little differentiates it from a street brawl, and that's why I can't take to it as a sport, and why I'm not so sure I would like young lads watching it and trying to impersonate their heroes on the green.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 03:09:56 PM
Thanks for the response. I wasn't equating it to AFL - I was saying you can't post an isolated video and use that to showcase the sport.....

that being said..... Strikes to the back of the head are illegal - the referee should issue a warning, then deduct a point then disqualify for persistent fouls.  The same goes for eye gouging, fish hooking, groin strikes, particular elbows thrown from 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock on a downed opponent, kneeing or kicking in the face while an opponent has 3 limbs touching the ground.....

In the video you posted everyone agrees the fight should have been stopped. The man on top wasn't landing heavy strikes (it's quite difficult to generate a lot of power from your knees) and the guy on the ground was talking to the referee and giving him two thumbs up that he was fine. Still the strikes were unanswered and he wasn't advancing his position so to my point in another post, the fight should have been stopped.  That's the referee's job - not the fighters. Just like in boxing if a fighter is on the ropes and the other man is hitting him over and over again and the fighter stays on his feet but is out - it's up to the ref.  We've seen it happen countless times but don't discount boxing as a sport.

All martial arts come from hand to hand combat systems.  These were designed for war originally and battle.  They have them in nearly every country in the world.  Their own system or variation of a system.
When the UFC started it was to answer the question "who would win"  Which system is better?  Boxing versus Karate, Wrestling versus Kickboxing......It evolved into the sport it is today as fighters adopted the most effective styles - BJJ, Thai Boxing and submission grappling.  Mixed Martial Arts.

Now the sport is the ultimate sport the ultimate test - one on one - who wins.  You played football  -you enjoyed winning, being the better team but surely you enjoyed the individual battle with your marker?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:13:01 PM
I did. I'm not so sure I would have enjoyed my marker elbowing me in the face, kneeing me in the head, or trying to choke me out though :)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 03:18:30 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:13:01 PM
I did. I'm not so sure I would have enjoyed my marker elbowing me in the face, kneeing me in the head, or trying to choke me out though :)
but you had no problem throwing the odd dig I'd imagine or going toe to toe if the occasion called for it?  Why was that?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:22:53 PM
Not on a lad lying on the ground I didn't. In fact there are few things worse in my view.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 03:29:26 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:22:53 PM
Not on a lad lying on the ground I didn't. In fact there are few things worse in my view.
But thats because in football, lads on their back don't know how to defend themselves. I will lay down on my back and welcome you to my world and I'm not even that good! LOL
I remember the first time I found out McGeeney was training in BJJ - it was during an International Rules match, he was on his back and this Aussie landed on him and grabbed him by the throat.  McGeeney executed a perfect sweep, advanced to side control and had a neck crank sunk in before the fella knew what hit him.

In MMA these fighters are trained in all areas. Or should be. If you understood the rules, or tried some training yourself you would appreciate it more. Like any sport. 

You don't have to like it.  I'm defending the fact that it is a sport, with rules and regulations and participants who show respect and shake hands after the battle.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on March 22, 2016, 03:35:55 PM
It's an awesome spectacle and makes boxing look a bit dull and one-dimensional. I imagine there will be big consequences for a lot of these fighters when they get older, but they should be allowed to what they want with their own bodies.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:48:46 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 03:59:05 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:48:46 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.
I don't understand your point here.  Are you saying that Karate would not be a fan of the violence of MMA? Or Thai boxing would shake their head at the violence? Or traditional boxing would weep at someone being choked unconscious?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 04:08:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:48:46 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.

MMA, UFC, wrestling, baxin, bare knuckle baxin etc are not sports. They are one thing and one thing only, fighting. Beating your opponent by combination of skill, speed, agility, tactics is sport. Beating them with fists, knees, elbows and choking is fighting.  People can cod themselves that they are sports but they're legalised pub brawls.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 04:08:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:48:46 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.

MMA, UFC, wrestling, baxin, bare knuckle baxin etc are not sports. They are one thing and one thing only, fighting. Beating your opponent by combination of skill, speed, agility, tactics is sport. Beating them with fists, knees, elbows and choking is fighting.  People can cod themselves that they are sports but they're legalised pub brawls.
you just described all the UFC champions....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 03:59:05 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:48:46 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.
I don't understand your point here.  Are you saying that Karate would not be a fan of the violence of MMA? Or Thai boxing would shake their head at the violence? Or traditional boxing would weep at someone being choked unconscious?

My question, rather than point, is which one of the sports would recognize itself in holding a man down and elbowing him in the face? I think MMA is far more violent than any of the individual disciplines which make it up. And I think that is because MMA as a spectator sport wants the violence.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 04:35:33 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 04:08:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:48:46 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.

MMA, UFC, wrestling, baxin, bare knuckle baxin etc are not sports. They are one thing and one thing only, fighting. Beating your opponent by combination of skill, speed, agility, tactics is sport. Beating them with fists, knees, elbows and choking is fighting.  People can cod themselves that they are sports but they're legalised pub brawls.
you just described all the UFC champions....

A yes or no answer please; are there any UFC Champions who have not used fist, knee, elbow or choking to win their belt?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 04:43:31 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 04:35:33 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 04:08:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:48:46 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.

MMA, UFC, wrestling, baxin, bare knuckle baxin etc are not sports. They are one thing and one thing only, fighting. Beating your opponent by combination of skill, speed, agility, tactics is sport. Beating them with fists, knees, elbows and choking is fighting.  People can cod themselves that they are sports but they're legalised pub brawls.
you just described all the UFC champions....

A yes or no answer please; are there any UFC Champions who have not used fist, knee, elbow or choking to win their belt?

Are their any champions league winners who have not used their feet, knees, or head to win?
Bizarre question mike......
Speed, skill, ability and tactics win all sporting competitions but not without the tools of the trade and don't forget a bit of heart, guts and a sprinkling of luck
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 04:50:47 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 03:59:05 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:48:46 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.
I don't understand your point here.  Are you saying that Karate would not be a fan of the violence of MMA? Or Thai boxing would shake their head at the violence? Or traditional boxing would weep at someone being choked unconscious?

My question, rather than point, is which one of the sports would recognize itself in holding a man down and elbowing him in the face? I think MMA is far more violent than any of the individual disciplines which make it up. And I think that is because MMA as a spectator sport wants the violence.
I like a standup battle - as much as the next man - I also enjoy the technicality of a chess match on the ground between two grappler's at the top of their game.  The majority of casual fans dont understand that side of the sport...
In Thai boxing you can hold and elbow to the head while standing, or hold the back of the neck and knee repeatedly to the face...
We all want violence! Do you turn off the tv when there are fistycuffs at a match? Or do you cheer your team on like everyone else? Come on now....

the martial arts were designed for combat, kill or be killed.  Anyone who participates and immerses themselves in martial arts dont do so because they are seeking a peaceful path.... its so they are ready for all and every situation...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 04:54:19 PM
I don't think you answered my question. I quite like boxing. I can watch Thai kick boxing and not be put off. I just can't think of a martial art which allows the ground moves including the elbows and knees to the face of a prone man. My aversion to the MMA is that element of it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 04:55:50 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 04:54:19 PM
I don't think you answered my question. I quite like boxing. I can watch Thai kick boxing and not be put off. I just can't think of a martial art which allows the ground moves including the elbows and knees to the face of a prone man. My aversion to the MMA is that element of it.
whats the difference to striking a man with a knee in the face or elbow to the face while he is standing? versus while he is on his back? it's proven you generate more force and cause more damage while standing.....
all the ground fighting arts allow for strikes and promote strikes....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 04:59:43 PM
It's harder to move and defend yourself on your back. You are vulnerable. Sinking an elbow onto a lads face as you pin him to the ground is not very sporting 😃  maybe I dont watch enough but I've never seen that level of violence in judo, karate, boxing, wrestling or anything else I can think of. I think that blood lust is an MMA invention.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 05:04:25 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 04:59:43 PM
It's harder to move and defend yourself on your back. You are vulnerable. Sinking an elbow onto a lads face as you pin him to the ground is not very sporting 😃  maybe I dont watch enough but I've never seen that level of violence in judo, karate, boxing, wrestling or anything else I can think of. I think that blood lust is an MMA invention.
these other martial arts dont have TV coverage because they have point fighting - but when you are taught them you're taught to inflict as much damage on your opponent as posisble... I think you're confusing tv with sport..... martial arts point fighting for TV is not real martial arts  - Tae Kwon Do - pillow strikes and tippy tap kicks - those "martial artists" are destroyed by any trained fighter...
the grappling you see in judo for the olymoics is only one side of the art. There are strikes and chokes and broken limbs....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 05:05:16 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 04:43:31 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 04:35:33 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 04:08:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:48:46 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.

MMA, UFC, wrestling, baxin, bare knuckle baxin etc are not sports. They are one thing and one thing only, fighting. Beating your opponent by combination of skill, speed, agility, tactics is sport. Beating them with fists, knees, elbows and choking is fighting.  People can cod themselves that they are sports but they're legalised pub brawls.
you just described all the UFC champions....

A yes or no answer please; are there any UFC Champions who have not used fist, knee, elbow or choking to win their belt?

Are their any champions league winners who have not used their feet, knees, or head to win?
Bizarre question mike......
Speed, skill, ability and tactics win all sporting competitions but not without the tools of the trade and don't forget a bit of heart, guts and a sprinkling of luck

u didn't answer the question. There's a difference between kicking a ball and kicking someone in the head. The former is sport, the latter is fighting.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 05:30:08 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 05:05:16 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 04:43:31 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 04:35:33 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 04:08:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:48:46 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.

MMA, UFC, wrestling, baxin, bare knuckle baxin etc are not sports. They are one thing and one thing only, fighting. Beating your opponent by combination of skill, speed, agility, tactics is sport. Beating them with fists, knees, elbows and choking is fighting.  People can cod themselves that they are sports but they're legalised pub brawls.
you just described all the UFC champions....

A yes or no answer please; are there any UFC Champions who have not used fist, knee, elbow or choking to win their belt?

Are their any champions league winners who have not used their feet, knees, or head to win?
Bizarre question mike......
Speed, skill, ability and tactics win all sporting competitions but not without the tools of the trade and don't forget a bit of heart, guts and a sprinkling of luck

u didn't answer the question. There's a difference between kicking a ball and kicking someone in the head. The former is sport, the latter is fighting.
why bring kicking in to it - you said skill speed tactics and agility - all of which are traits of the champions in the UFC
these are the traits of the best in all sports whether they kick a ball, dunk a ball, row a boat, box, wrestle, grapple, golf, or compete in any combat sport
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on March 22, 2016, 05:46:11 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 04:43:31 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 04:35:33 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 04:08:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:48:46 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.

MMA, UFC, wrestling, baxin, bare knuckle baxin etc are not sports. They are one thing and one thing only, fighting. Beating your opponent by combination of skill, speed, agility, tactics is sport. Beating them with fists, knees, elbows and choking is fighting.  People can cod themselves that they are sports but they're legalised pub brawls.
you just described all the UFC champions....

A yes or no answer please; are there any UFC Champions who have not used fist, knee, elbow or choking to win their belt?

Are their any champions league winners who have not used their feet, knees, or head to win?

Djimi Traore.
He was useless with all of the above.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 10:45:42 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 05:30:08 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 05:05:16 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 04:43:31 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 04:35:33 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 04:08:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:48:46 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.

MMA, UFC, wrestling, baxin, bare knuckle baxin etc are not sports. They are one thing and one thing only, fighting. Beating your opponent by combination of skill, speed, agility, tactics is sport. Beating them with fists, knees, elbows and choking is fighting.  People can cod themselves that they are sports but they're legalised pub brawls.
you just described all the UFC champions....

A yes or no answer please; are there any UFC Champions who have not used fist, knee, elbow or choking to win their belt?

Are their any champions league winners who have not used their feet, knees, or head to win?
Bizarre question mike......
Speed, skill, ability and tactics win all sporting competitions but not without the tools of the trade and don't forget a bit of heart, guts and a sprinkling of luck

u didn't answer the question. There's a difference between kicking a ball and kicking someone in the head. The former is sport, the latter is fighting.
why bring kicking in to it - you said skill speed tactics and agility - all of which are traits of the champions in the UFC
these are the traits of the best in all sports whether they kick a ball, dunk a ball, row a boat, box, wrestle, grapple, golf, or compete in any combat sport
Your staunch belief that fighting is a sport leads me to believe you have suffered  numerous boots to the head. It also has impacted your short term memory as u have forgotten to answer my question despite being prompted twice. You should take up something less dangerous. Maybe a sport or a game like snooker or darts. This fighting lark is not good for your health.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on March 22, 2016, 11:07:04 PM
Troll.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 23, 2016, 01:44:00 AM
mikehunt it's a bit of redundant question. And me answering yes doesn't prove anything or add to the conversation....
please contribute with a point that makes sense....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on March 23, 2016, 03:13:46 AM
Nate Diaz Vs Rory MacDonald UFC 129 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zHBX-2RvXc

Some throws by MacDonald!!! He took Nate to suplex city in round 3 lol
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 23, 2016, 09:32:46 AM
Sorry Iceman, I got sidetracked last night. I'm not mixing up real life and TV, thanks for the suggestion :), but I think you might be juxtaposing the Combat and Sports words to infer what is and isn't a 'sport'. To me, you are absolutely right, things like Karate, Judo, Boxing, etc etc, evolved from combat disciplines. But that is the key word, evolved. The aim of combat is to maim, kill, injure, disable or neutralise your opponent, in a military context. Sport is about proving you are the better man in a particular skillset or discipline. My own personal opinion is you do not have to carry the over aggressive 'combat' elements to prove that. And that is why those sports have evolved into point scoring, basically demonstrating the mastery over the attacking and defensive techniques, in a mano a mano scenario. Of course blows are struck, and people are hurt, but by and large it is designed to emphasise the skill, bravery and tactics of the discipline, and minimise the battlefield damage that was originally part of the martial art.

My issue with MMA is that it has reverted back, to a certain extent, a more 'anything goes' type of affair, reintroducing the 'combat' elements deliberately to try and excite the fans with violence. That is why I feel it is more 'Combat' than 'Sport', while the original component sports are more 'Sport' than 'Combat'.


I appreciate you like the MMA, and I certainly think the protagonists are brave men and women, but I just don't think it falls under what I consider the boundaries of sport.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 23, 2016, 10:02:46 AM
One of the lads mentioned the key word on the previous page - spectacle. It's a spectacle as much as a sport. People like iceman who can appreciate the technicalities and finesse of BJJ or wrestling etc would, I suspect, be in the minority. Most want to see blood and guts.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: doodaa on March 23, 2016, 10:29:01 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 04:54:19 PM
I don't think you answered my question. I quite like boxing. I can watch Thai kick boxing and not be put off. I just can't think of a martial art which allows the ground moves including the elbows and knees to the face of a prone man. My aversion to the MMA is that element of it.

If its a prone man ie not able to defend themselves then really the ref should have stepped in by that point. I agree it doesn't look good but is it often the case that this happens? Usually the man on the ground is putting up a defence and the ref steps in when its deemed he isn't.
MMA always looks a lot more brutal than boxing purely because the hands aren't as well padded leading to quicker cuts/ blood everywhere etc. I think if I competed I would prefer that to the repeated blunt force of boxing which would lead to much worse injuries/ illnesses in the long term.
That's not to say a MMA fighter wont go on to develop any of those illnesses, just its probably less likely.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 23, 2016, 10:47:40 AM
Quote from: doodaa on March 23, 2016, 10:29:01 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 04:54:19 PM
I don't think you answered my question. I quite like boxing. I can watch Thai kick boxing and not be put off. I just can't think of a martial art which allows the ground moves including the elbows and knees to the face of a prone man. My aversion to the MMA is that element of it.

If its a prone man ie not able to defend themselves then really the ref should have stepped in by that point. I agree it doesn't look good but is it often the case that this happens? Usually the man on the ground is putting up a defence and the ref steps in when its deemed he isn't.
MMA always looks a lot more brutal than boxing purely because the hands aren't as well padded leading to quicker cuts/ blood everywhere etc. I think if I competed I would prefer that to the repeated blunt force of boxing which would lead to much worse injuries/ illnesses in the long term.
That's not to say a MMA fighter wont go on to develop any of those illnesses, just its probably less likely.

I think the problem is that it's not just fists that agent as heavily padded. Ground and pound with forearms, elbow smashes etc could cause serious damage and there have been some really high profile reffing c**k-ups recently. I still don't know how Herb Dean didn't stop Weidman-Rockhold in the third.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 23, 2016, 06:52:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdRLvldfg7I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdRLvldfg7I)

LHW Champion Jone Jones vrs Daniel Cormier, Good fight - might give some of you a better idea of the blend of styles that makes up the sport.

This fight will be re-matched later in April.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on March 29, 2016, 05:30:50 PM
A lot of Diaz McGregor rumors going around for 200. Any truth in it?

Surely it has to be at 155 for McGregor to have a chance? What would McGregor's thinking be behind taking this fight (other than the money)? He gets to immediately right a wrong? Surely he will have to give up his belt?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 29, 2016, 05:47:37 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on March 29, 2016, 05:30:50 PM
A lot of Diaz McGregor rumors going around for 200. Any truth in it?

Surely it has to be at 155 for McGregor to have a chance? What would McGregor's thinking be behind taking this fight (other than the money)? He gets to immediately right a wrong? Surely he will have to give up his belt?

I think it's a smart business move for him. If he goes back down to 145 to fight Aldo or Edgar he misses out on the Diaz fight which is a big money fight going on the first one.  If he loses to Diaz again then it's a failed experiment at 170 and he can still have the Edgar or Aldo fights...
Put your money on Diaz - he's opened again as the underdog.

Edgar will eat him for breakfast if McGregor can't catch him on the feet and Aldo knows how to beat him now - he will try and take the fight to the ground where his superior BJJ will help. 
I still think the Aldo fight is a 50:50 matchup. But Edgar beats him 9 times out of 10.

He may give up the belt and open up an Edgar - Aldo fight where he fights the winner.... either way his bank account wins...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on March 29, 2016, 05:55:13 PM
Didnt get the chance to give my 2p's worth at the time but I was never as glad to see that twerp get his arse handed to him.

Im sure yous discussed it at the time Iceman but it looked to me like McGregor had given your man his best shots and then couldnt take his punches and went to ground to get a submission instead of being knocked out? Fair assessment? 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 29, 2016, 05:58:21 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on March 29, 2016, 05:55:13 PM
Didnt get the chance to give my 2p's worth at the time but I was never as glad to see that twerp get his arse handed to him.

Im sure yous discussed it at the time Iceman but it looked to me like McGregor had given your man his best shots and then couldnt take his punches and went to ground to get a submission instead of being knocked out? Fair assessment?

I don't think he went to the ground to be submitted? His bell was rung and in desperation he went for a takedown to take a rest. He took down the wrong man.

It would have been an extremely smart and calculated move to take the submission loss over a TKO to avoid a lengthy medical suspension.... I don't know if McGregor did that - if he did he is a genius
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on March 29, 2016, 06:46:21 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 29, 2016, 05:58:21 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on March 29, 2016, 05:55:13 PM
Didnt get the chance to give my 2p's worth at the time but I was never as glad to see that twerp get his arse handed to him.

Im sure yous discussed it at the time Iceman but it looked to me like McGregor had given your man his best shots and then couldnt take his punches and went to ground to get a submission instead of being knocked out? Fair assessment?

I don't think he went to the ground to be submitted? His bell was rung and in desperation he went for a takedown to take a rest. He took down the wrong man.

It would have been an extremely smart and calculated move to take the submission loss over a TKO to avoid a lengthy medical suspension.... I don't know if McGregor did that - if he did he is a genius

Fair enuff i dont know much about the sport and I do have anti Mc Gregor glasses on. I just thought there was no fight in him once he went down but if yer man was handy on the floor he may have made it look like that.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on March 31, 2016, 12:18:54 AM

McGregor Diaz rematch confirmed for UFC 200.

170? Doesn't make sense from McGregor's perspective.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 31, 2016, 01:09:14 AM
And Aldo us fighting Edgar for the interim 145lb title.

Why are they fighting for the interim title? That's stupid.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 31, 2016, 06:35:33 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 31, 2016, 01:09:14 AM
And Aldo us fighting Edgar for the interim 145lb title.

Why are they fighting for the interim title? That's stupid.

Because McGregor will have taken two flights outside the weight division since becoming champion and odds of him every defending 145 are increasingly slim. I think it's fair enough
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 31, 2016, 10:08:24 AM
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Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 31, 2016, 11:26:16 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 31, 2016, 06:35:33 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 31, 2016, 01:09:14 AM
And Aldo us fighting Edgar for the interim 145lb title.

Why are they fighting for the interim title? That's stupid.

Because McGregor will have taken two flights outside the weight division since becoming champion and odds of him every defending 145 are increasingly slim. I think it's fair enough

Well strip McGregor of the belt then and let them fight for the title. None of this interim nonsense.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 31, 2016, 01:09:47 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 31, 2016, 11:26:16 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 31, 2016, 06:35:33 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 31, 2016, 01:09:14 AM
And Aldo us fighting Edgar for the interim 145lb title.

Why are they fighting for the interim title? That's stupid.

Because McGregor will have taken two flights outside the weight division since becoming champion and odds of him every defending 145 are increasingly slim. I think it's fair enough

Well strip McGregor of the belt then and let them fight for the title. None of this interim nonsense.

You know that's not how it works! I thought one fight fair enough considering how active McGregor is. Then when he lost I thought, "OK, now he'll have to go back down". Now they're giving him a rematch it's ridiculous not to do something about it.

From the giant showpiece they had planned, their first in T Mobile arena, UFC 200 is starting to look like a bit of an anti climax already. Not a single title fight in sight. No Holm-Rousey rematch. All looking a bit tame but will no doubt sell out in zip time and do huge PPV numbers.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on March 31, 2016, 02:18:37 PM
I'm surprised he's taking it at 170 again.  Stubborn man wanting to prove everyone wrong.  With a title fight straight after with the winner of edgar v aldo, he certainly knows how to make money.  Even if he loses, the money will be flying in.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 31, 2016, 03:16:24 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 31, 2016, 02:18:37 PM
I'm surprised he's taking it at 170 again.  Stubborn man wanting to prove everyone wrong.  With a title fight straight after with the winner of edgar v aldo, he certainly knows how to make money.  Even if he loses, the money will be flying in.
If he fights at 155 and loses to Diaz then he has no case to fight RDA at 155 for the belt.
If he loses to Diaz again and fights the winner or Edgar and Aldo and somehow wins then he can fight for the 155 belt...

If he wins against Diaz he can drop the 145 belt and take the big money fight against GSP or Nick Diaz at MSG and the UFCs first event since MMA was regulated in NY

I said from the very start McGregor was after the gold coins not the gold belt and he is raking it in
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on March 31, 2016, 03:59:37 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 31, 2016, 03:16:24 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 31, 2016, 02:18:37 PM
I'm surprised he's taking it at 170 again.  Stubborn man wanting to prove everyone wrong.  With a title fight straight after with the winner of edgar v aldo, he certainly knows how to make money.  Even if he loses, the money will be flying in.
If he fights at 155 and loses to Diaz then he has no case to fight RDA at 155 for the belt.
If he loses to Diaz again and fights the winner or Edgar and Aldo and somehow wins then he can fight for the 155 belt...

If he wins against Diaz he can drop the 145 belt and take the big money fight against GSP or Nick Diaz at MSG and the UFCs first event since MMA was regulated in NY

I said from the very start McGregor was after the gold coins not the gold belt and he is raking it in

RDA not a happy chap that he has been overlooked for UFC 200 i see. Is the event diluted a little by there being no proper belt on offer? (more to be added though I'm sure)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 31, 2016, 04:04:05 PM
I don't think it is.  It isn't always about the belt its about the fights and the style matchups. There are cards now weekly or every few weeks. Most cards I'll normally only be interested in one or two fights - thats not to say the other fights won't be good but when I look at the card I don't always care if I watch the whole thing or not.  That being said UFC fight night on April 16th headlined by Nurmagomdov  vrs Tony Furgusson is stacked from top to bottom - I'll definitely watch the whole card. 
I think UFC 200 is going for that. Fights fans want to see regardless of the belts...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on March 31, 2016, 05:14:48 PM
So what can/will he do differently this time? He landed a lot of shots last time and Diaz just came back for more. Will he give him more respect this time? Diaz will be more prepared as well with having a camp behind him this time.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 31, 2016, 05:24:36 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on March 31, 2016, 05:14:48 PM
So what can/will he do differently this time? He landed a lot of shots last time and Diaz just came back for more. Will he give him more respect this time? Diaz will be more prepared as well with having a camp behind him this time.

If he has some kind of defensive strategy he has a chance as he was well ahead in the last fight until Diaz hurt him. Otherwise I think it will be same old same old his chin is way too open for a guy of Diaz's size and power!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 31, 2016, 06:40:30 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 31, 2016, 05:24:36 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on March 31, 2016, 05:14:48 PM
So what can/will he do differently this time? He landed a lot of shots last time and Diaz just came back for more. Will he give him more respect this time? Diaz will be more prepared as well with having a camp behind him this time.

If he has some kind of defensive strategy he has a chance as he was well ahead in the last fight until Diaz hurt him. Otherwise I think it will be same old same old his chin is way too open for a guy of Diaz's size and power!
The fight should stay on the feet. CMG will have better cradio and will conserve energy and not load up on every shot. I think he will try to attack Diaz's lead leg and hopefully limit Diaz's mobility and footwork.  I also think he will go after the body with the teep kicks he executed against Chad Mendes (if you watched that fight) to drain Diaz's cardio.  He has a chance right there's no doubt about it - I just don't see McGregor winning. Diaz's boxing is too good, his range and length is too hard to handle and he's only been TKO'd once by a kick to the head

Put your money on Diaz for this one
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on April 01, 2016, 08:46:26 AM
I just wonder how big a factor did the weight play in the last fight?  What weight would McGregor have been at when it was decided that Diaz was the opponent and that it would be at 170?  Was he simply not used to carrying that weight in a fight hence the blow out, or was it a combination of that and the fact that he just expected to blow through Diaz like he did with the FWs?  Surely he will have been training and getting used to carrying that weight since March, plus you would think that he won't simply go for the kill from the first bell either.  But why (other than ego) has he not pushed for the fight to be at 155?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 01, 2016, 09:08:51 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 01, 2016, 08:46:26 AM
I just wonder how big a factor did the weight play in the last fight?  What weight would McGregor have been at when it was decided that Diaz was the opponent and that it would be at 170?  Was he simply not used to carrying that weight in a fight hence the blow out, or was it a combination of that and the fact that he just expected to blow through Diaz like he did with the FWs?  Surely he will have been training and getting used to carrying that weight since March, plus you would think that he won't simply go for the kill from the first bell either.  But why (other than ego) has he not pushed for the fight to be at 155?

There's no reason other than ego. He wants top best Diaz under the same conditions and keep the dream alive of a WW title shot or GSP super fight at some stage.

Diaz claimed least week that if McGregor had won, they'd have announced GSP's return for a fight against him. That fight would be far, far bigger than a title fight against Lawler.

McGregor will handle the cardio aspect of 170 much better in the summer after a camp of training for a WW fight. Diaz will be much better prepared too though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on April 09, 2016, 11:31:38 AM
Flights over from New York on Thursday 7th July and back Monday 11th, £280 indirect , £330 cheapest direct return! Is this not very dear for an internal flight in America? Thinking to book it now before it gets astronomical or wait to I'm out there! Could end up dearer booking in NY?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ballinaman on April 12, 2016, 12:14:16 PM
Brazilian MMA fighter Joao Carvalho has died following his defeat to Irish fighter Charlie Ward in the National Stadium on Saturday night.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: mikehunt on April 12, 2016, 12:37:10 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 12, 2016, 12:14:16 PM
Brazilian MMA fighter Joao Carvalho has died following his defeat to Irish fighter Charlie Ward in the National Stadium on Saturday night.

An avoidable waste of life. Comparisons between someone dying on a rugby/GAA pitch is apples and oranges as the intent is to inflict as much damage as possible on your opponent. I wonder how people who were there feel. Cheering on their local favourite as his punches inflict enough damage so as to kill his opponent. I don't know anything about this Charlie Ward fella but how must he feel? Just doing his job and this happens. Organisers may think they can control the environment they fight in and maybe they can but they can't control the damage done. If it's a crime outside the ring then you'd have to question the morality of it in a "controlled environment".
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 12, 2016, 12:41:53 PM
To be fair, we've had serious injuries and deaths following boxing bouts, so I'm not going to pontificate about this tragedy. I just think in MMA, refs have to be trigger happy to stop the sort of punishment being meted out.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 12, 2016, 12:46:53 PM
Very sad.

Was on RTE news yesterday, so I'd imagine the backlash in Irish media against MMA/UFC will be very big over the next few days.

Apparently McGregor, who was in attendance, said the fight should have been stopped earlier. It was the 3rd round, and I'm not sure what happened in the early rounds, but the last minute of the fight is up on sportsjoe.ie. From my limited knowledge of the sport, the ref seemed to end it at pretty much the right time. Carvalho was protecting himself but was throwing nothing back and had no chance of escape. In hindsight you could argue the ref could have stopped it 2 or 3 seconds earlier.

Carvalho seemed fine immediately after the fight and walked back to his dressing room unaided. It was only when there that things started going downhill, rapidly.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ballinaman on April 12, 2016, 01:02:02 PM
Quote from: Hound on April 12, 2016, 12:46:53 PM

Carvalho seemed fine immediately after the fight and walked back to his dressing room unaided. It was only when there that things started going downhill, rapidly.
Seems like a case of "talk and die syndrome". A epidural hematoma in the brain occurs after a menigeal artery is damaged...blood starts to pool increasing intracranial pressure leading to death.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: mikehunt on April 12, 2016, 01:03:14 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 12, 2016, 12:41:53 PM
To be fair, we've had serious injuries and deaths following boxing bouts, so I'm not going to pontificate about this tragedy. I just think in MMA, refs have to be trigger happy to stop the sort of punishment being meted out.

Forgot about the ref actually. He'll have sleepless nights and a lot of "if only" questions. Damned if they stop it early and damned if they don't.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: macdanger2 on April 12, 2016, 11:49:02 PM
Terrible tragedy
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on April 13, 2016, 09:07:12 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 01, 2016, 09:08:51 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 01, 2016, 08:46:26 AM
I just wonder how big a factor did the weight play in the last fight?  What weight would McGregor have been at when it was decided that Diaz was the opponent and that it would be at 170?  Was he simply not used to carrying that weight in a fight hence the blow out, or was it a combination of that and the fact that he just expected to blow through Diaz like he did with the FWs?  Surely he will have been training and getting used to carrying that weight since March, plus you would think that he won't simply go for the kill from the first bell either.  But why (other than ego) has he not pushed for the fight to be at 155?

There's no reason other than ego. He wants top best Diaz under the same conditions and keep the dream alive of a WW title shot or GSP super fight at some stage.

Diaz claimed least week that if McGregor had won, they'd have announced GSP's return for a fight against him. That fight would be far, far bigger than a title fight against Lawler.

McGregor will handle the cardio aspect of 170 much better in the summer after a camp of training for a WW fight. Diaz will be much better prepared too though.

I don't see the relevance of the cardio debate here. Diaz does tri-athlete's in his sleep. So cardio is zero advantage here.

Mc Gregor has to bulk up for this weight. As we saw in the first bout he loses all his mobility by doing it. Diaz is the bigger man- sometimes size matters.

He spars with Andre Ward and is a black belt ju jitsu artist

So to sum up. Mc Gregor's biggest strengths are his boxing skills and his movement. He has an average ground game

He's fighting a bigger man, who is a better boxer and an expert ju jitsu artist and has probably a better cardio output then he has.

He can only win this fight if Diaz has an off night. Other then that he's going to lose.

An exercise in vanity in my opinion ( all be it a rich one)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 13, 2016, 09:51:47 PM
McGregor completely gassed inside a round and a half last time out and you don't see the relevance of cardio to the debate? Good one.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on April 13, 2016, 11:10:39 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 13, 2016, 09:51:47 PM
McGregor completely gassed inside a round and a half last time out and you don't see the relevance of cardio to the debate? Good one.

Gassing out had nothing to do with losing. You keep hanging onto that one .

Beaten by a bigger and yes better man
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 13, 2016, 11:19:23 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 13, 2016, 11:10:39 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 13, 2016, 09:51:47 PM
McGregor completely gassed inside a round and a half last time out and you don't see the relevance of cardio to the debate? Good one.

Gassing out had nothing to do with losing. You keep hanging onto that one .

Beaten by a bigger and yes better man
It have everything to do with the loss. He took Diaz down because he was exhausted, hoping to ride out the rest of the round. As soon as it hit the ground it was over.....
Cardio will play a huge part in the rematch.

Very sad news about the death of the fighter in Ireland. i've watched the footage online and I don't know how anyone would foresee what happened. It wasn't a one sided affair by any means...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 19, 2016, 07:50:43 PM
What's this about? I presume some sort of marketing thing?
From McGregor' twitter...


I have decided to retire young.
Thanks for the cheese.
Catch ya's later.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Harold Disgracey on April 19, 2016, 08:07:40 PM
I hope he has his Twitter notifications turned off.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 19, 2016, 08:31:14 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 19, 2016, 07:50:43 PM
What's this about? I presume some sort of marketing thing?
From McGregor' twitter...


I have decided to retire young.
Thanks for the cheese.
Catch ya's later.

messing with the idiots on Twitter no doubt
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 19, 2016, 08:43:09 PM
Probably although it's a little too soon after that lad died, if he is just trolling.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 19, 2016, 08:45:33 PM
Weren't there some Snapchat pictures going round a while back of him "enjoying the Vegas lifestyle" as well?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Boycey on April 19, 2016, 09:52:02 PM
His trainer in on it too??

"Well was fun while it lasted"
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on April 19, 2016, 10:43:24 PM
Wouldn't surprise me. He's talked himself into a re-match he's going to lose. And he probably realises that now.

Still is he going to walk away from 15m? He only has to turn up to get that.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 19, 2016, 10:44:11 PM
who knows at this point - all speculaiton
would McGregor really just tweet his retirement? no press conference? no fanfare?
who knows where his head is at..... he just witness a man dying in the cage.... he was in portugal training - then went to iceland to train... and then this... 
I seen some suggestions its a response to a fall out with uncle dana.... who knows
as a famous armagh man said many times......

TWT
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on April 19, 2016, 11:04:41 PM
He's going back to finish his plumbing apprenticeship so he has a trade to fall back on.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: armaghniac on April 20, 2016, 12:01:00 AM
Once Brolly condemned the whole thing, what could he do?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ashman on April 20, 2016, 12:19:15 AM
The world has gone mad .
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 20, 2016, 02:14:26 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on April 19, 2016, 10:44:11 PM
who knows at this point - all speculaiton
would McGregor really just tweet his retirement? no press conference? no fanfare?
who knows where his head is at..... he just witness a man dying in the cage.... he was in portugal training - then went to iceland to train... and then this... 
I seen some suggestions its a response to a fall out with uncle dana.... who knows
as a famous armagh man said many times......

TWT

Dana just said on ESPN he was unwilling to fly to Vegas and take part in press conferences promoting UFC 200
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 20, 2016, 06:12:32 AM
So is he testing Dana or what?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GJL on April 20, 2016, 08:53:03 AM
All about getting every last $$$ he can. He will fight again no doubt.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on April 20, 2016, 09:11:09 AM
Reading on Twitter that McGregor and Diaz not happy that George St Peirre's is touted as being lined up to trump them for headline at UFC200 with a title fight v Lawlor. How likely is that scenario?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 20, 2016, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on April 20, 2016, 09:11:09 AM
Reading on Twitter that McGregor and Diaz not happy that George St Peirre's is touted as being lined up to trump them for headline at UFC200 with a title fight v Lawlor. How likely is that scenario?
My hypothetical is they are somehow trying to reverse engineer into a McGregor v GSP fight.
McGregor out. GSP in for new co-main event. GSP's opponent out. McGregor back in.
Maybe a bit far fetched even for UFC!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 20, 2016, 09:47:49 AM
OR maybe he just wants to go to WWE and make a pile of money doing a lot less dangerous stuff.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Under Lights on April 20, 2016, 10:09:00 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 20, 2016, 09:47:49 AM
OR maybe he just wants to go to WWE and make a pile of money doing a lot less dangerous stuff.

He would be too wee and light for WWE would he not?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 20, 2016, 11:58:00 AM
Quote from: Hound on April 20, 2016, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on April 20, 2016, 09:11:09 AM
Reading on Twitter that McGregor and Diaz not happy that George St Peirre's is touted as being lined up to trump them for headline at UFC200 with a title fight v Lawlor. How likely is that scenario?
My hypothetical is they are somehow trying to reverse engineer into a McGregor v GSP fight.
McGregor out. GSP in for new co-main event. GSP's opponent out. McGregor back in.
Maybe a bit far fetched even for UFC!

I said at the time and I still fully believe that GSP was not at 196 by coincidence. If McGregor won that, I think they'd have tried to use it to present him as a "legitimate" welterweight (even though Diaz is a blown up lightweight) and justify a fight with GSP. Robbie Lawler is fantastic but he doesn't have the aura around him that GSP does. McGregor-GSP would have trumped either of Lawler-GSP or Lawler-McGregor in terms of interest and PPV revenue.

UFC 200 is a complete f**king mess at the minute and if they still want it to be their "biggest event ever", they need some superstars at it. GSP's return would fit that and a title fight (GSP could reasonably expect to be the number one contender if he came back) would improve the current card massively.

On a separate note, if McGregor-GSP was actuallt on the cards, it would be one of the most ridiculous things they've ever done. McGregor would get absolutely mauled.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 20, 2016, 04:30:38 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 20, 2016, 11:58:00 AM
Quote from: Hound on April 20, 2016, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on April 20, 2016, 09:11:09 AM
Reading on Twitter that McGregor and Diaz not happy that George St Peirre's is touted as being lined up to trump them for headline at UFC200 with a title fight v Lawlor. How likely is that scenario?
My hypothetical is they are somehow trying to reverse engineer into a McGregor v GSP fight.
McGregor out. GSP in for new co-main event. GSP's opponent out. McGregor back in.
Maybe a bit far fetched even for UFC!

I said at the time and I still fully believe that GSP was not at 196 by coincidence. If McGregor won that, I think they'd have tried to use it to present him as a "legitimate" welterweight (even though Diaz is a blown up lightweight) and justify a fight with GSP. Robbie Lawler is fantastic but he doesn't have the aura around him that GSP does. McGregor-GSP would have trumped either of Lawler-GSP or Lawler-McGregor in terms of interest and PPV revenue.

UFC 200 is a complete f**king mess at the minute and if they still want it to be their "biggest event ever", they need some superstars at it. GSP's return would fit that and a title fight (GSP could reasonably expect to be the number one contender if he came back) would improve the current card massively.

On a separate note, if McGregor-GSP was actuallt on the cards, it would be one of the most ridiculous things they've ever done. McGregor would get absolutely mauled.

GSP is a horrible matchup for CMG especially given his grappling ability and weight -the man walks about near 200lbs

The way to save the card I think is throw RDA in there for a 155 title fight with Nate Diaz and headline with Nick Diaz vrs GSP for fun or Lawler v GSP for the title
GSP is in camp now - he says it's a test but it can turn real very quickly.... Nate does not want to fight GSP - he is loyal to his brother and 170 is his division.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 20, 2016, 04:52:29 PM
Nick's suspension isn't up until August I believe.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 20, 2016, 04:56:51 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 20, 2016, 04:52:29 PM
Nick's suspension isn't up until August I believe.
Good call.... still can't see Nate taking the GSP fight.... I'd say two title fights will save the card 155 and 170
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 20, 2016, 05:04:46 PM
So what next for McGregor? What if Dana calls his bluff?

Is he seriously done? Can he start something up himself? Would Bellator be an option?

Questions, questions???
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 20, 2016, 05:09:02 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on April 20, 2016, 05:04:46 PM
So what next for McGregor? What if Dana calls his bluff?

Is he seriously done? Can he start something up himself? Would Bellator be an option?

Questions, questions???
He can start his own promotion but not fight. He has a contract with the UFC- his only option is retirement or compete.
Dana can fill the void.... he holds the strings.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 20, 2016, 05:43:42 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on April 20, 2016, 05:09:02 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on April 20, 2016, 05:04:46 PM
So what next for McGregor? What if Dana calls his bluff?

Is he seriously done? Can he start something up himself? Would Bellator be an option?

Questions, questions???
He can start his own promotion but not fight. He has a contract with the UFC- his only option is retirement or compete.
Dana can fill the void.... he holds the strings.

Do we know what a UFC contract looks like Iceman?  If he can only fight for Dana, what would happen if Dana offered him a derisory amount for a fight?  Surely the fighter has got to have some options so he is not exclusive to them as he could be taken advantage of in that case?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 20, 2016, 06:44:00 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on April 20, 2016, 05:43:42 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on April 20, 2016, 05:09:02 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on April 20, 2016, 05:04:46 PM
So what next for McGregor? What if Dana calls his bluff?

Is he seriously done? Can he start something up himself? Would Bellator be an option?

Questions, questions???
He can start his own promotion but not fight. He has a contract with the UFC- his only option is retirement or compete.
Dana can fill the void.... he holds the strings.

Do we know what a UFC contract looks like Iceman?  If he can only fight for Dana, what would happen if Dana offered him a derisory amount for a fight?  Surely the fighter has got to have some options so he is not exclusive to them as he could be taken advantage of in that case?
No I don't know but I've followed the promotion for long enough to know there is no way he can just quit the UFC and go and fight for Bellator. CMG signed the contract - it is for a set figure per fight plus PPV ties and whatever bonuses he has. Like a soccer player can't just quit a team and go and join another - it's a contract. He is exclusive to the UFC until that contract has been obligated or he is released
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 20, 2016, 09:23:06 PM
Dana White gave some more interviews this evening:

He said was nothing to do with money, purely to do with him not wanting to do promotional activity.

Said Conor needs to say if he is or isnt retiring or he'll be stripped of the FW belt.

He said it never got argumentative. He was talking to his Conor's manager and not once did it get argumentative.

He said that people like to say he cosys up to Conor and stuff like that and that Conor can do what he wants. But he can't. He gives lots of leeway to Conor because he delivers. But he wasn't going to deliver this weekend so he had to pull him.  Dana said Conor wanted to move the promotional activity to May, which wasn't acceptable. Dana said he thought Conor wouldnt have expected him to pull him from the fight.

He said if McGregor calls him very soon he can still be on the card, but he needs to do the promotion. UFC have spent $10m on promotion for UFC 200 that is already in motion.

Dana said the reporter who said McGregor was holding out for $10m was flat out lying. He repeated this had nothing to do with money, and Conor is happy with what he earns.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 21, 2016, 12:02:00 AM
there was no shame in losing to NAte a 2nd time at 170
he had a guaranteed fight at 145 afterwards - he wouldnt walk away from 10 million - he took the fight because it was his only shot at Nate at 170 and the big pay day
he'll lose to edgar at 145 and the nate fight would be completely lost
this way he is guaranteed 2 fights and the diaz one would always be the bigger pay day
there is a lot more to this...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: seafoid on April 21, 2016, 04:18:05 AM
the fella who owns UFC is a billionaire. It's all one big circus with the added feature of death
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on April 21, 2016, 06:56:08 AM
I heard he is retiring as he wants to make more money elsewhere.
A Luas driver he will be so....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on April 21, 2016, 08:48:33 AM
UFC 197 hasn't even happened and they're already trying to go over the top with promo for 200?

Surely a month of promo is enough, no?

Sure the McGregor/Diaz fight has already promoted itself anyway?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on April 21, 2016, 11:42:38 AM

Dana said last night that he could still be reinstated to the UFC200 bill
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 21, 2016, 11:44:51 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 21, 2016, 04:18:05 AM
the fella who owns UFC is a billionaire. It's all one big circus with the added feature of death

Remember movies like 'The Running Man'?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Declan on April 21, 2016, 03:51:24 PM
Ball back in Dana court now.
I am just trying to do my job and fight here.
I am paid to fight. I am not yet paid to promote.
I have become lost in the game of promotion and forgot about the art of fighting.
There comes a time when you need to stop handing out flyers and get back to the damn shop.
50 world tours, 200 press conferences, 1 million interviews, 2 million photo shoots, and at the end of it all I'm left looking down the barrel of a lens, staring defeat in the face, thinking of nothing but my incorrect fight preparation. And the many distractions that led to this.
Nothing else was going through my mind.
It is time to go back and live the life that got me this life.
Sitting in a car on the way to some dump in Conneticut or somewhere, to speak to Tim and Suzie on the nobody gives a **** morning show did not get me this life.
Talking to some lady that deep down doesn't give a **** about what I'm doing, but just wants some sound bites so she can maybe get her little tight ass a nice raise, and I'm cool with that too, I've been giving you all raises. But I need to focus on me now.
I'm coming for my revenge here.
I flew an entire team to Portugal and to Iceland to make my adjustments in preparation and fix my errors I made with the weight and the cardio prep.
With the right adjustments and the right focus, I will finish what I started in that last fight.
I will not do this if I am back on the road handing out flyers again.
I will always play the game and play it better than anybody, but just for this one, where I am coming off a loss, I asked for some leeway where I can just train and focus. I did not shut down all media requests. I simply wanted a slight adjustment.
But it was denied.
There had been 10 million dollars allocated for the promotion of this event is what they told me.
So as a gesture of good will, I went and not only saved that 10 million dollars in promotion money, I then went and tripled it for them.
And all with one tweet.
Keep that 10 mill to promote the other bums that need it. My shows are good.
I must isolate myself now.
I am facing a taller, longer and heavier man. I need to prepare correctly this time.
I can not dance for you this time.
It is time for the other monkeys to dance. I've danced us all the way here.
Nate's little mush head looks good up on that stage these days. Stuff him in front of the camera for it.
He came in with no **** to do that last one. I'd already done press conferences, interviews and shot the ads before RDA pulled out.
Maybe I'll hit Cabo this time and skull some shots pre-fight with no obligation.
I'm doing what I need for me now.
It is time to be selfish with my training again. It is the only way.
I feel the $400million I have generated for the company in my last three events, all inside 8 months, is enough to get me this slight leeway.
I am still ready to go for UFC 200.
I will offer, like I already did, to fly to New York for the big press conference that was scheduled, and then I will go back into training. With no distractions.
If this is not enough or they feel I have not deserved to sit this promotion run out this one time, well then I don't know what to say.
For the record also -
For USADA and for the UFC and my contract stipulations -
I AM NOT RETIRED.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Under Lights on April 21, 2016, 04:10:10 PM
Wow. That's awful. Massive cringy bullshit from him there.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 21, 2016, 04:13:09 PM
I'm telling you. 5 minutes in an airport with the Cork footballers, and look at him!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on April 21, 2016, 04:17:19 PM
Quote from: Under Lights on April 21, 2016, 04:10:10 PM
Wow. That's awful. Massive cringy bullshit from him there.

I enjoyed reading that and I've no grá for the UFC. He's a quare operator in and out of the pentagon
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Under Lights on April 21, 2016, 04:35:29 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on April 21, 2016, 04:17:19 PM
Quote from: Under Lights on April 21, 2016, 04:10:10 PM
Wow. That's awful. Massive cringy bullshit from him there.

I enjoyed reading that and I've no grá for the UFC. He's a quare operator in and out of the pentagon

I'm sure the details of the arranged promotions were in the pre-fight contract he signed.
It's up to the fighters to sort their training around this.
Sure every fighter has to do the same level of promotion.
If CMCG didn't take on all the additional sponsorship and media coverage then his time wouldn't be so consumed.
I am not that clued in with the whole sport but I would image there are other outlets for the fighting arts if he isn't in agreement with the UFC's policy.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on April 21, 2016, 05:13:16 PM
He's acting like a child here... he signed a contract which I'm sure laid out all his commitments so Dana told him to f**k off when he tries to renegotiate after the fact.

The lads in the UFC aren't known to be sympathetic and while this circus is creating great publicity I'm sure White and Fertitta won't be held to ransom by McGregor. . . if they grant his demands then who else is going to come out next and say they aren't going to do the promotion. It's a business and McGregor know this too well it's up to him to fit his training around his commitments so that he's in correct shape for the fight!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 21, 2016, 07:50:10 PM
I thought it was brilliant statement. He got so much in there

He's no interest in doing the usual multiple rounds of PR stuff, as his style of pre-fight banter lampooning his opponent, just can't wash against someone who made him tap out last time!

So instead he pulls his twitter and facebook stunts that gets more publicity than UFC could have dreamed of! Not exactly what they wanted, but massie publicity nonetheless.

Not sure whether Dana will change his mind, will depend on if they can get another headline act. But if McGregor is not reinstated, there's supposed to be another big UFC event on in Madison Square Garden in the Autumn, and McGregor will headline that if he doesn't get UFC 200. I still wouldnt rule him out of 200 though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Under Lights on April 21, 2016, 08:30:30 PM
Hound was it not more he was pulled from the card so he took the huff and posted the Twitter message rather than he posted the Twitter message, creating hype, before he was pulled.

I have massive respect for anyone who stands in a boxing ring or whatever you call what MMA fighters fight in, takes massive balls to do that but crying over having to do something he signed up to do just looks like he is making excuses and changed his mind about this rematch.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on April 21, 2016, 10:59:15 PM
Quote from: Hound on April 21, 2016, 07:50:10 PM
I thought it was brilliant statement. He got so much in there

He's no interest in doing the usual multiple rounds of PR stuff, as his style of pre-fight banter lampooning his opponent, just can't wash against someone who made him tap out last time!

So instead he pulls his twitter and facebook stunts that gets more publicity than UFC could have dreamed of! Not exactly what they wanted, but massie publicity nonetheless.

Not sure whether Dana will change his mind, will depend on if they can get another headline act. But if McGregor is not reinstated, there's supposed to be another big UFC event on in Madison Square Garden in the Autumn, and McGregor will headline that if he doesn't get UFC 200. I still wouldnt rule him out of 200 though.

He knew when he signed for the UFC what the gig was. No point complaining about it afterwards. He was quite happy to do it when he was on the dole. And he'd still be on the dole queue if it wasn't for the UFC.

He's a multi millionaire and he doesn't need the UFC anymore that's what it comes down to. And that's fine but that statement is car crash material. Even has spelling mistakes
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on April 21, 2016, 11:34:42 PM
Quote from: Hound on April 21, 2016, 07:50:10 PM
He's no interest in doing the usual multiple rounds of PR stuff, as his style of pre-fight banter lampooning his opponent, just can't wash against someone who made him tap out last time!
That's a great point.
Also, at this stage everyone knows about Mcgregor and Diaz and the reasons why McGregor would be so desperate to win, and how difficult it would be for him to beat Diaz at 170. It's a genuinely fascinating re-match and it hardly needs all the phony, panto bullshit that usually goes with these occasions.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on April 21, 2016, 11:36:13 PM
Surely this is all one massive con which is set to make both CMcG and the UFC millions (more).
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: In hiding on April 21, 2016, 11:39:54 PM
Quote from: Hound on April 21, 2016, 07:50:10 PM
I thought it was brilliant statement. He got so much in there

He's no interest in doing the usual multiple rounds of PR stuff, as his style of pre-fight banter lampooning his opponent, just can't wash against someone who made him tap out last time!

So instead he pulls his twitter and facebook stunts that gets more publicity than UFC could have dreamed of! Not exactly what they wanted, but massie publicity nonetheless.

Not sure whether Dana will change his mind, will depend on if they can get another headline act. But if McGregor is not reinstated, there's supposed to be another big UFC event on in Madison Square Garden in the Autumn, and McGregor will headline that if he doesn't get UFC 200. I still wouldnt rule him out of 200 though.
I totally agree.
Actually starting to like mc gregor. Smart boy
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 22, 2016, 12:02:16 AM
he's a genius... by negotiating via twitter he has removed all the UFCs cards... the fans are already badgering dana and Lorenzo. By pulling the fight from UFC 200 based on McGregor's story the UFC looks bad and CMG looks like the victim. Fighters have now changed their opinion of him and are tipping their hats to him in respect of his stance.  In one ranting statement he has cornered the UFC and won over the other fighters....

he will get UFC 200 or the MSG card and make himself and the UFC a fortune. He broke the internet when he announced his retirement
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Never beat the deeler on April 22, 2016, 01:04:04 AM
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Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 22, 2016, 11:19:35 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on April 22, 2016, 12:02:16 AM
he's a genius... by negotiating via twitter he has removed all the UFCs cards... the fans are already badgering dana and Lorenzo. By pulling the fight from UFC 200 based on McGregor's story the UFC looks bad and CMG looks like the victim. Fighters have now changed their opinion of him and are tipping their hats to him in respect of his stance.  In one ranting statement he has cornered the UFC and won over the other fighters....

he will get UFC 200 or the MSG card and make himself and the UFC a fortune. He broke the internet when he announced his retirement

He has won over some fighters.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 23, 2016, 07:32:14 AM
Entertaining first UFC200 press conference last night. All the press want McGregor on it and they hounded Dana, but he wasn't budging "How many times have I got to say it" he repeated more than once! His reason is that it wouldnt be fair on the other fighters because they've all made the effort to be here and Conor hasn't. The press guys couldnt see what fair had anything to do with, and one said that McGregor has done more to promote UFC200 than anyone else. Dana accepted that, but repeated it wouldnt be fair to keep him on the card.

Dana then said Diaz is still on the card, and we're going to find him an opponent.

When Diaz was asked who would he like to fight, and the reporter threw out a couple of suggestions, Diaz said he's either fighting McGregor, or he's not fighting! That seemed like a surprise to Dana!

Dana said McGregor will not be fighting in New York (UFC205 in November) he'll fight before that. That took reporters by surprise as New York seemed an obvious venue for Conor.

Dana was asked could Jones be on UFC200, and he said that was a distinct possiblilty. So best guess now is that if Jones wins easy tonight, then it seems very likely that Jones v Cormier II will be on UFC200 and McGregor v Diaz II will headline UFC 202/203.

If Jones loses to St Preux or has a very tough night, then it could be all back up in the air.
   
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 23, 2016, 09:32:51 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on April 22, 2016, 12:02:16 AM
he's a genius... by negotiating via twitter he has removed all the UFCs cards... the fans are already badgering dana and Lorenzo. By pulling the fight from UFC 200 based on McGregor's story the UFC looks bad and CMG looks like the victim. Fighters have now changed their opinion of him and are tipping their hats to him in respect of his stance.  In one ranting statement he has cornered the UFC and won over the other fighters....

he will get UFC 200 or the MSG card and make himself and the UFC a fortune. He broke the internet when he announced his retirement
And you believed it?! It's the sort of red top PR crap that the X-Factor does here every year. Wouldn't be at all surprised if the whole thing was sanctioned by Dana White to drum up even more publicity. Gone fishin'.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on April 23, 2016, 12:08:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 23, 2016, 09:32:51 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on April 22, 2016, 12:02:16 AM
he's a genius... by negotiating via twitter he has removed all the UFCs cards... the fans are already badgering dana and Lorenzo. By pulling the fight from UFC 200 based on McGregor's story the UFC looks bad and CMG looks like the victim. Fighters have now changed their opinion of him and are tipping their hats to him in respect of his stance.  In one ranting statement he has cornered the UFC and won over the other fighters....

he will get UFC 200 or the MSG card and make himself and the UFC a fortune. He broke the internet when he announced his retirement
And you believed it?! It's the sort of red top PR crap that the X-Factor does here every year. Wouldn't be at all surprised if the whole thing was sanctioned by Dana White to drum up even more publicity. Gone fishin'.

I'd have to agree. Mc Gregor got his arse kicked last time just in case anyone has forgotten by a guy who has lost 10 fights. The second coming of Ali this isn't

Mc gregor is a brilliant PR man and that's where his future lies in my view.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on April 23, 2016, 01:07:50 PM

Indy I struggle to understand why you pontificate on something like this, ie a subject matter you patently know nothing about. I've been competing at decent level BJJ for nearly 20 years but I wouldn't presume to have any fundamental understanding of the UFC or these fighters. I wouldn't really be a McGregor fan either but I can respect his achievements and qualities.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on April 23, 2016, 05:17:44 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 23, 2016, 01:07:50 PM

Indy I struggle to understand why you pontificate on something like this, ie a subject matter you patently know nothing about. I've been competing at decent level BJJ for nearly 20 years but I wouldn't presume to have any fundamental understanding of the UFC or these fighters. I wouldn't really be a McGregor fan either but I can respect his achievements and qualities.

I've been involved in the S&C of martial arts for about 10 years .

I respect Mc Gregor but I do shake my head at those who think he's great .... yet. He may achieve greatness but he's not there and pulling out of fights when he's guaranteed 15m is silly really. Just for a few press conferences?

What about the lads on the 20/20 deals. Don't give me this he's trying to serve a higher purpose  ;D- he doesn't care about the other fighters- this is professional sport. He knows he can do this and get away with it- it's poor form on the fans who have already booked that trip. So I do shake my head at the Irish public who continue to support him in their droves.

the truth is his striking coach Owen Roddy was ten times more talented just in the wrong era. Good luck to him he's milking it and he'll never have to work again but greatness..... c'mon he's a natural lightweight beating up a lot of featherweights- let's see him go to lightweight and achieve the greatness he talks about. . It's the best division in the UFC in my view

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on April 23, 2016, 05:40:12 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 23, 2016, 05:17:44 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 23, 2016, 01:07:50 PM

Indy I struggle to understand why you pontificate on something like this, ie a subject matter you patently know nothing about. I've been competing at decent level BJJ for nearly 20 years but I wouldn't presume to have any fundamental understanding of the UFC or these fighters. I wouldn't really be a McGregor fan either but I can respect his achievements and qualities.

I've been involved in the S&C of martial arts for about 10 years .

I respect Mc Gregor but I do shake my head at those who think he's great .... yet. He may achieve greatness but he's not there and pulling out of fights when he's guaranteed 15m is silly really. Just for a few press conferences?

What about the lads on the 20/20 deals. Don't give me this he's trying to serve a higher purpose  ;D- he doesn't care about the other fighters- this is professional sport. He knows he can do this and get away with it- it's poor form on the fans who have already booked that trip. So I do shake my head at the Irish public who continue to support him in their droves.

the truth is his striking coach Owen Roddy was ten times more talented just in the wrong era. Good luck to him he's milking it and he'll never have to work again but greatness..... c'mon he's a natural lightweight beating up a lot of featherweights- let's see him go to lightweight and achieve the greatness he talks about. . It's the best division in the UFC in my view

In between winning All Ireland medals?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 24, 2016, 02:03:14 PM
Rusty enough looking return for Jon Jones last night. Poor enough fight. Fair play to OSP going five rounds on three weeks notice.

Demetrious Johnson was utterly sensational though. Most complete fighter in the promotion by a mile.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 25, 2016, 08:22:27 AM
Quote from: gallsman on April 24, 2016, 02:03:14 PM
Rusty enough looking return for Jon Jones last night. Poor enough fight. Fair play to OSP going five rounds on three weeks notice.

Demetrious Johnson was utterly sensational though. Most complete fighter in the promotion by a mile.
Yeah not what Dana White wanted. A 5 round mediocre enough performance from Jones, lessens the chances of Jones v Cormier II beign UFC200. Rumours that McGregor might get back on the card yet.

Johnson was spectacular alright. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Corner Forward on April 25, 2016, 08:37:03 AM
Quote from: Hound on April 25, 2016, 08:22:27 AM
Quote from: gallsman on April 24, 2016, 02:03:14 PM
Rusty enough looking return for Jon Jones last night. Poor enough fight. Fair play to OSP going five rounds on three weeks notice.

Demetrious Johnson was utterly sensational though. Most complete fighter in the promotion by a mile.
Yeah not what Dana White wanted. A 5 round mediocre enough performance from Jones, lessens the chances of Jones v Cormier II beign UFC200. Rumours that McGregor might get back on the card yet.

Johnson was spectacular alright.

He is according to his twitter
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: seafoid on April 25, 2016, 10:22:11 AM
2 interesting views on MM whatever it is

Keith Duggan
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/conor-mcgregor-doing-a-greta-garbo-would-have-been-truly-audacious-1.2621338

And McGregor's fans, those who were in from the start are understandably cynical when it comes to this sudden rush of appreciation for their man. But MMA fans also exhibit an element of protectiveness and insecurity about their sport and McGregor in particular; stung by those who reduce it to barbarism and irritated by breezy opinion which they see as ill-equipped to convey the level of skill and bravery required to fight at McGregor's level. That irritation is well founded.
McGregor is probably the most famous Irish sports star on planet earth just now. He achieved that with zero recognition or interest from establishment Ireland. And so his actual fans don't bother to hide their disdain for the mainstream.
In McGregor, MMA's movers and shapers were blessed with a once-in-a-lifetime gem: an outsider with an instantly recognisable image and charisma who had the chops to substantiate the hyperbole when it came to fighting. He was like a gift from the heavens to MMA. Like golf and Tiger Woods at a certain time, there is McGregor and then there is the rest.

Joe Brolly

http://www.independent.ie/sport/mma/joe-brolly-on-the-vicious-backlash-he-received-for-his-mma-column-last-weekend-34654331.html
When McGregor posts a photo of himself wearing a jewelled crown, perched on a gold-plated urinal, they become dizzy with excitement. They tweet each other in near ecstasy about the money McGregor has made and his gangsta turn of phrase. They glory in the ­conspicuous spending. A "nice tiger"; a fleet of ­supercars; next up, a Waterford Crystal Bentley with a miniature grand piano in the rear, played by Mr Scaramanga's butler from The Man with the Golden Gun.

He is encouraged by an awe-stricken media. On Friday morning, a breathless piece in the normally sane Irish Times started with the line: "Breathe out. The champion has not retired." Breathe out? Like we were holding it in? The piece went on: "Sometimes we can forget there is more to McGregor than how he spends his money." That same day, McGregor begged to differ, tweeting: "I've got my bills paid, my money made. And the entire game slayed." He makes Ali's doggerel sound like Shakespeare. And he likes to talk about killing people. "I would kill him in less than 30 seconds," he said recently of Floyd Mayweather.

What a bore.

It says something very depressing about Irish society that this is our most celebrated sportsman
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on April 25, 2016, 10:30:59 AM
cheers
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 25, 2016, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on April 25, 2016, 10:10:04 AM

Yeah i see from twitter that McGregor is back.  Will be interested to see how it has all been resolved.
He may be back.

McGregor's twitter is not the most reliable information source in the world. I don't think there has been any official confirmation (or denial) yet.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: johnneycool on April 25, 2016, 02:07:25 PM
Quick question;

Is the Bellator like a Div2 for UFC fighters?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 25, 2016, 02:58:33 PM
Paddy Holohan has had to retire due to a rare blood disorder

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1420772631281528&set=a.158072054218265.31180.100000464136581&type=3&theater
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 25, 2016, 02:59:04 PM
It's seems the whole McGregor fight off and back on again was Dana White taking a leaf out of Vince McMahons book. In wrestling I think they call it a work.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on April 25, 2016, 03:03:26 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 25, 2016, 02:07:25 PM
Quick question;

Is the Bellator like a Div2 for UFC fighters?

Was wondering that myself.  James Gallagher was signed by them recently and I thought he was waiting on the UFC call to be honest.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on April 25, 2016, 03:04:24 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on April 25, 2016, 02:58:33 PM
Paddy Holohan has had to retire due to a rare blood disorder

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1420772631281528&set=a.158072054218265.31180.100000464136581&type=3&theater

Sad that. Seems he's hinting that he doesnt want to retire but he is being forced too.  I know nothing of the dangers of this blood disorder though
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 25, 2016, 04:13:42 PM
seems like a right fella now in fairness - just opened up his own SBG gym so he'll be ok.  It will be hard for him not to compete.

McGregor is playing some game on Twitter with the UFC. I suspect at this point that they have sanctioned it otherwise his behaviour would warrant some punishment.... definitely "a work" as someone pointed out.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 25, 2016, 04:34:27 PM
Bellator would be considered a promotion with an inferior roster. However, former UFC Lightweight Champion Benson Henderson (hasn't been in best form for a while) got absolutely walloped on Friday night on his Bellator debut. It was admittedly a title fight at welterweight but he was annihilated for 5 rounds.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 25, 2016, 04:55:25 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on April 25, 2016, 04:13:42 PM
seems like a right fella now in fairness - just opened up his own SBG gym so he'll be ok.  It will be hard for him not to compete.

McGregor is playing some game on Twitter with the UFC. I suspect at this point that they have sanctioned it otherwise his behaviour would warrant some punishment.... definitely "a work" as someone pointed out.
Dana White still adamant he's not on the card and he doesn't know why Conor would tweet that!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on April 25, 2016, 05:18:51 PM
This bullshit is worse than the hokey cokey... f**king hurry up and make a call there are lads who have spent a lot of money to go see this, the current posturing of both sides is sickening when considering the cost to the normal punter!!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on April 26, 2016, 12:51:48 PM
What's the honest views at the minute then?!Iceman etc... Is CMcG going to be on the card or not at UFC200, is it all a waiting game? Correct me if I'm wrong but the pre sale tickets go on sale Thursday so they're leaving it late! Dana/UFC bound to make an announcement tonight or tomorrow?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on April 26, 2016, 01:16:03 PM
Is the inevitable split coming?

What will the new one be called:

WFC?
UFO?
FFS?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 26, 2016, 01:53:42 PM
Diaz has said he's going on holiday and won't be at UFC200, so it seems he's been told there's no chance of it going ahead.

It seems Dana wants to put on Jones v Cormier, but there's a questionmark over the fitness of both men, hence the delay in the official announcement.

McGregor's tweet about retirement and his detailed facebook post worked great. That combined with the way the press conference went had all reporters/media behind Conor. But his tweet about thanking Dana for putting him back on the card has completely backfired. He was attempting to build on the momentum, but instead brought it to a crashing halt.

There'll probably be more swings and roundabouts before we all know what exactly is going on!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 26, 2016, 03:43:07 PM
Jones shoulld be absolutely fine for 200, as should Cormier. However, given how rusty Jones looked on Saturday, that's not quite looking like the cracking fight it did previously.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 26, 2016, 04:15:40 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 26, 2016, 03:43:07 PM
Jones shoulld be absolutely fine for 200, as should Cormier. However, given how rusty Jones looked on Saturday, that's not quite looking like the cracking fight it did previously.

I think you're being too critical of Jones. He gave a good enough explanation post fight for me. He trained months for Cormier. A shorter wrestler with an overhand right. He went in against a tall strong power punch with awkward movement.  Given time to study his opponent I think he would have made very light work of OSP.  But instead on short notice he looked rusty or gun shy....
I think he does a number on Cormier 10 times out of 10.

With regard to CMG i don't think he fights Diaz at UFC 200.  Diaz seems to be on the sauce already given the pictures he posted recently.  I think The UFC pulls a rabbit out of a hat and announces a bigger fight for Mcgregor. OR a surprise fight for GSP with Lawlor... or a rousey holm rematch? theres something cooking
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 26, 2016, 06:19:23 PM
Regardless of how valid his explanation was, the Cormier fight is now lacks the same lustre. It's a shame because the two genuinely loathe each other.

McGregor got choked out fairly handily by a blown up lightweight. Any notions of him fighting GSP or Lawler should be dismissed. It might be a huge attraction and would surely generate PPV buys for the UFC but it's hard to see what it generates in the long run. A fight against Lawler would presumably be for the title, which he hasn't come close to earning. Both of them would absolutely walk through his best shots, smash him and then ground and pound the life out of him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 26, 2016, 07:30:39 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 26, 2016, 06:19:23 PM
Regardless of how valid his explanation was, the Cormier fight is now lacks the same lustre. It's a shame because the two genuinely loathe each other.

McGregor got choked out fairly handily by a blown up lightweight. Any notions of him fighting GSP or Lawler should be dismissed. It might be a huge attraction and would surely generate PPV buys for the UFC but it's hard to see what it generates in the long run. A fight against Lawler would presumably be for the title, which he hasn't come close to earning. Both of them would absolutely walk through his best shots, smash him and then ground and pound the life out of him.
I think my post read GSP v Lawlor not Mcgregor. Maybe a different fight for McGregor at 200... who knows at this point. All I believe is that something is in the works....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 26, 2016, 08:50:35 PM
Sorry, you're right, misread post altogether!

GSP-Lawler would be great, although I'd happily watch Lawler against Rory Mac again.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on April 27, 2016, 03:32:55 PM
http://www.skysports.com/more-sports/ufc/news/19828/10259943/conor-mcgregor-will-officially-not-fight-nate-diaz-at-ufc-200-as-retirement-saga-concludes (http://www.skysports.com/more-sports/ufc/news/19828/10259943/conor-mcgregor-will-officially-not-fight-nate-diaz-at-ufc-200-as-retirement-saga-concludes)

McGregor def not at UFC200 then.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: seafoid on April 28, 2016, 05:01:03 AM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/what-conor-mcgregor-and-donald-trump-have-in-common-and-it-ain-t-pretty-1.2626753

What Conor McGregor and Donald Trump have in common . . . And it ain't pretty
New Yorker born into riches and former apprentice appeal to same demographic
about 10 hours ago
Dave Hannigan

5


For all the puerile trash-talking and braggadocio, both men now find themselves in remarkably similar, awkward situations.
   
 

When Conor McGregor went to war with UFC last week, there was something eerily familiar about his line of complaint and angle of attack. Was it arguing normal rules should not apply to him because he's special? Or blaming female reporters for trying to hitch their career stars to his wagon? Maybe it was the brash way he asserted that his absence generated more publicity than the event he refused to attend? These all sounded uncannily like points made by Donald Trump when he boycotted a Fox News presidential debate back in January.
Trump's temper tantrum came, among other reasons, because he was irked at Fox's Megyn Kelly who, in his distorted mind, was exploiting his candidacy to boost ratings on her nightly show. Which sounds a lot like McGregor lamenting having to talk "to some lady that deep down doesn't give a f**k about what I'm doing, but just wants some sound bites so she can maybe get her little tight ass a nice raise". Even the Dubliner's supplementary boast that he'd already been responsible for several others getting raises also sounded positively Trumpian.
"Donald can shut his big, fat mouth," said McGregor last November, after the Republican frontrunner had disparaged Ronda Rousey. "I don't give a f**k about Donald Trump."
Eloquent statements
Aside from being one of McGregor's smarter and more eloquent statements, that soundbite rings kind of hollow because the estranged featherweight champion has a lot in common with Trump. Indeed, there have been times over the past year when the two men seem to be using the same promotional playbook to dominate media coverage in their respective fields, an imbalance that has caused peers of both to whinge incessantly about preferential treatment.
Trump and McGregor contend, perhaps correctly, that they get more attention because they deserve it. In the relentless and often insufferable quest to push their brands, each is liable to say anything in front of a microphone.
One labels a Russian-born fighter based in Germany a "little Nazi" and informs Brazilians that in a different time he'd have invaded the favela and killed all those not fit to work. The other vilifies Mexican immigrants as rapists, announces plans to repatriate 11 million of them and to build a 40-foot high, 1800-mile long wall to keep them from returning.
The New Yorker born into immense riches and the former plumbing apprentice from Crumlin are appealing to the same demented demographic with that kind of inflammatory language.
Whether shilling for votes or pay-per-views, there are no illegitimate targets. Nate Diaz' hometown of Stockton is full of snitches that will be taken out by the Dubliner. Ted Cruz is not a natural born citizen and his wife is uglier than Melania Trump. Distasteful, deliberately offensive but, at a time when the sports and political worlds are matching shades of beige, broad strokes in primary colours are destined to impact.
In this regard, both campaigns are hallmarked by a narcissism so excessive that it's almost (if not quite) entertaining, a tendency to bloviate that inspires curious levels of devotion, and an understanding that, in the social media era, exaggeration matters more than exactitude.
Nobody knows the true extent of Trump's wealth and his supposed glittering business career is pockmarked with spectacular failures and stunning lies. Yet, plenty Americans say they intend to vote for him because they believe he has the business acumen to revitalise the economy. Never mind evidence, enjoy the myth.
Nobody has any idea how much money McGregor has wrung out of the notoriously parsimonious UFC but history tells us it's far less than the telephone numbers bandied out by those eager to burnish his legend. Why the financial hyperbole? Because if the sums he's drawing down are stratospheric then his achievements in the octagon are rendered more significant. Never mind questions about whether UFC has smoothed his path, put the emperor's image on the coin now before it turns out he has no clothes.
Like true 21st century shucksters, this pair of unlikely bedfellows are not blinding them with science but with bling. Trump puts fancy stickers with his logo on the private plane to hide the true age of the craft, to give off the air of glamour and to reel in the suckers. McGregor quips that three people died making his watch and his socks are worth more than the suit worn by an opponent whom he then calls a "broke bitch". The type of desperately adolescent swagger that convinces the all-too-easily fooled he's living the dream.
Conventional rules
For all the puerile trash-talking and braggadocio, both men now find themselves in remarkably similar, awkward situations. Republican Party apparatchiks, who initially delighted in the frenzy Trump's candidacy created, seem determined to use convention rules to try to wrest the nomination from his grasp. McGregor, the giddy child once thrilled to be cruising the Vegas strip in Dana White's convertible, has discovered UFC's smart business model doesn't allow anybody grow bigger than those three letters. Ever.
In the space of four days next November, America elects a president and Madison Square Garden hosts New York's first-ever UFC show. Trump will co-headline one event and McGregor the other. After six more months of tiresome effrontery and vulgar excess. Of course.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 28, 2016, 09:59:05 AM
From Esquire in April 2015 (before he'd beaten Aldo and lost to Diaz). Gives a far better insight into the good and bad of McGregor than postulating journalists. Driven, flawed and a bit special. Not always likeable, but have to admit I admire him
http://www.esquire.com/sports/interviews/a34377/conor-mcgregor-interview-0515/

Most of the time, Conor McGregor wins fights with his fists. He has won once with elbow strikes, and he has won once by submission. But the other fifteen times he has professionally beaten another man bloody—most recently Dennis Siver, whom he picked apart in Boston in January—it has been with his hands. His coach, an Irish mixed martial artist named John Kavanagh, has studied the physics of human combat and collision for decades, and even he can't explain why the five-foot-nine McGregor can hit as hard as he does. The hardest hitters usually have long arms, which McGregor does, and they usually have big fists, which McGregor does, but there's something else in him, some mysterious and extraordinary combination of desire and angle and speed, that makes his punches land like bombs.

McGregor, who is also extremely Irish, has an upright stance when he fights, a style that is both entrancing to watch and almost comically traditionalist. "He looks exactly like the Notre Dame logo," says Dana White, the president of the Ultimate Fighting Championship, referring to the university's ornery bare-knuckled leprechaun. Watching McGregor fight brings to mind ancient words like fisticuffs or donnybrook. He makes the delivery of knockouts look like some time-honored craft that occupies the space between art and science, like barrel making or leatherwork. A former plumber, he makes fighting seem like a trade.

When ordinary men land a punch, it lands with a blow, a seismic shock, like a hammer's thud. Most punches blemish. When McGregor lands a punch, his fists behave more like chisels, like awls. His punches cut. They don't bruise the skin; they break it. By the second round of their fight, Dennis Siver didn't look as though he'd been battered so much as he'd been glassed. His face was full of tiny holes.

Whatever reason McGregor's punches are different, they have made him his sport's newest darling, the culmination of a two-year rise from obscurity to headliner to crossover star. He will fight Brazilian champion Jose Aldo for the UFC's featherweight belt in July, and White believes it will be his organization's biggest fight of the year, "a global event," in large part because of McGregor's ability to seem more giant than he is.

But the twenty-six-year-old McGregor doesn't want to be regarded as peerless in only a single facet of his occupation—as just a puncher. "I don't look at a man who's expert in one area as a specialist," he says. "I look at him as a rookie in ten other areas. If you can box, what happens if I grab hold of your legs? If you put me face-to-face with Floyd Mayweather—pound-for-pound boxing's best—if I fought Floyd, I would kill him in less than thirty seconds. It would take me less than thirty seconds to wrap around him like a boa constrictor and strangle him."

McGregor sees the human body the way he sees fights, the way he sees this New York bar in which he's sheltering from the cold, the way he sees existence: Each is a collection of openings and avenues, roadblocks and hurdles. He always sits, as he is sitting now, with his back to a corner; he has scouted the exits; he has several routes of possibility mapped out in his cartographer's brain, every available advance and retreat. "I have a self-defense mind," he says. "I've had it all my life."

The way even the most successful still covet, McGregor dreams of possessing the ultimate trapdoor, of mastering the decisive submission that would finish any opponent: the rear naked choke. He has never managed to apply it during a UFC fight. He talks about it the way any of us talks about an object of desire that eludes us.

"It's the most dominant submission," he says almost wistfully. It isn't an arm or a knee bar or an ankle lock, each of which leaves its victim the opportunity to survive, however slight. And it isn't a punch that can be slipped or countered. The rear naked choke is almost a metaphor for the consequences of our most calamitous mistakes. "You can do nothing to me, but I can do whatever the f*ck I want to you," McGregor says. "I have complete control."

He's not sure he's making himself plain enough. He wants you to understand the feeling of true hopelessness, the sensation of every last door closing to you. He wants you to hate that feeling, which will make you appreciate more deeply the moments you are free. His longtime girlfriend, Dee Devlin, sitting beside him in the bar, does her best to explain his intentions. "He wants you to be better than you are," she says.

So under the bright lights of a photo studio, he strips down to his underwear and jumps on you from behind. You feel his weight lean into you, 170 pounds walking around—he can cut more than 20 pounds in the week before weigh-ins—his pectorals fitting into the tops of your shoulders like puzzle pieces. His broad chest is painted with a giant tattoo of a gorilla eating a human heart. It's not some cartoonish representation of a human heart, either, but an illustration ripped out of a medical textbook, with ventricles and veins. It is a drawing of your heart, and now you can feel his, beating through the ink and into your back.

McGregor's legs hook around your waist, anchored in place by his huge ass. "Glutes are a motherfucker," he says. "Glutes are power." The sole of his left foot presses against the point of your hip; the heel of his right foot digs into your groin. Almost by instinct, your hands find that leg and try to remove it, but legs beat arms almost every time, the way arms beat necks. His right arm wraps around your throat, his thickly veined forearm locked under your chin. His left arm crosses over his right wrist and tucks behind your head. And then he begins to pull back his right arm while he pushes forward with his left.

It doesn't hurt. That's the wrong word. You're uncomfortable. McGregor knows the feeling. The last time he lost a fight, the sixth bout of his career, back in 2010, it was in thirty-eight seconds, and it was to a choke. He was so averse to the sensation, he tapped out before he lost consciousness, one of the great regrets of his life. "That ate me alive," he says. "After that, I said I was going to fight to the death. You're going to have to kill me."

The rear naked choke is oblivious to such resolutions. Your body, like nearly everything you do with it, has imperfections that can seem like evolutionary carelessness. There are the few square inches of your liver that lie exposed, wide open under your ribs, a four-lane expressway to your central nervous system. There are the underengineered flying buttresses of your knees, waiting to snap. And there is your carotid artery, conveying massive volumes of your blood to your brain, close enough to the surface of your neck that you can see and feel it coursing, as though a salmon might run up it. Because that artery means life, it also means death. There is no way for you to strengthen it, to shield it, to mitigate the effects of pressure put upon it. Now McGregor squeezes, in two directions at the same time—again pulling with his right, pushing with his left—his arms like the blades of dull scissors. Your eyes are drawn down, leading the way for the rest of you, to the tattoos on his left wrist: a mustachioed gentleman in a top hat, and one of McGregor's principal mantras: slow is smooth, smooth is fast. He doesn't have to squeeze very hard, and he doesn't have to squeeze very long.

One second, two seconds, three seconds . . .

"Once the blood cuts from the brain, it's over," McGregor whispers.

It is. You are.

*****

McGregor has lived his entire life in pursuit of the opposite sensation: limitlessness. For as long as he can remember, he has been obsessed with movement and its endless opportunities. He has studied animals for their advantages—gorillas, lions, crocodiles—and in Kavanagh's Dublin gym, he tries to find their secrets in himself. Kavanagh has given him a key to the place, because McGregor will get the urge, as irresistible as a choke, to move at all hours of the day and night, slithering and monkey-stalking across the mats. Devlin routinely wakes up to find her man shadowboxing in front of the mirror at four in the morning. He doesn't lift weights or put in carefully apportioned session work like most fighters. "Machines don't use machines," he says, "and I am a machine." He doesn't recognize most of the modern walls we have built around ourselves. "Ritual is another word for fear, manifested in a different way." He doesn't believe in time, or at least he won't submit to it; he recognizes that clocks exist, but he sees no reason to obey their demands. He eats when he wants, he sleeps when he wants, but mostly he moves when he wants. For McGregor, death would be stillness—if he believed in death.

"Even in death, they say your vision, you can see everything," he says. "It's almost like you're evolving to the next stage. It's like a different plane of existence, just another form of movement, now we're moving through the f**king universe or I don't know what the f**k. Think of what's out there."

In some ways, it's hard to bear McGregor's company, and not just because he might decide to choke you out at any moment. He is so confident and self-possessed, so in command of his body and seemingly of his fate, he fills you with doubt about yours. Most of our social interactions are based on the premise that we've all agreed to follow certain rules. McGregor has not agreed to those rules, he will not, which is unnerving because it makes his behavior unpredictable—you find yourself saying,"You can't do that" or "You must do this," and he does and doesn't do it—but also because he makes you wonder why you've agreed to those rules yourself. He walks down the middle of streets; he eats the way storms consume coastlines. He is exhausting as a lunch partner, just as he is inside the octagon. In both instances, he is an igniter of brutal self-examination, the most unflattering mirror.

"You tell someone the truth about themselves and they crumble," he says.

"It's life," Devlin says of her boyfriend's ability to create fissures. Their relationship predates his career as a professional fighter by two weeks. His loves are intertwined. "It's our life," she says. "It's not like it's on and then it's off. It's just the way he is."

He has been fighting in some capacity since he was a child, born a challenging presence. "I seem to have a face—I seem to attract attention somehow," he says. "For some reason, people want to try to come at me. They want to hit me. I just wanted people to leave me alone, basically. I didn't get into this to be somebody. I got into it to feel comfortable in uncomfortable situations."

He began by kickboxing and then boxing. Then he discovered jujitsu and its system of levers, how to beat a man even when you're trapped on your back just by applying a little pressure where pressure isn't normally applied. "It fascinated me," he says. "It fascinated me then, and it fascinates me now."

Then he sat in the stands at UFC 93 in Dublin in 2009. "That's when I could reach out and touch it," he says. He was still an apprentice plumber then, one foot in each world. To hear him tell it, he went back to a damp building site and looked at the masters, men old and shivering before their time, and he made the choice, as though it were a choice, that he would no longer abide. He put down his tools, because machines don't use machines, and walked away. He saw in fighting a nearly perfect freedom, a way to translate his love of boundless physical expression—in a sport where so long as you don't stick your fingers into eyes or open cuts, you're pretty much good to go—into that rarest of lives, he and Dee, soaring together, never to be caged again. "No matter what was going on in my life, good or bad, I always knew—we knew—that we would end up here," he says. "It was inevitable in my head."

He uses inevitable more than most people. For McGregor, his certainty about his rise, and its continuing, isn't bravado. He is doing you the favor of letting you glimpse a future that only he has seen. It's almost as though he can't help it, as though his jaw is just one more pressure-release valve through which he can vent his bottomless reserves of spiritual anarchy. Ask him about his reputation for trash talk and this is what he says, uninterrupted, it seems, even by breaths:

"Trash talk? Smack talk? This is an American term that makes me laugh. I simply speak the truth. I'm an Irish man. We don't give a f**k about feelings. We'll tell you the truth. People ask me a question about somebody, I tell them the truth. I don't have anything bad to say about Jose Aldo. It's pretty plain and simple. His time is up. It's done. There's somebody ruthless coming to get him. There's somebody cold coming to get him. I can look at him dead in the eye and say, It's done. You're over now. You're a champion that nobody gave a f**k about. Nobody cared about him before I came along. Nobody cared about the division before I came along. He's a decision machine. He can barely finish his dinner, never mind his opponent. And he's fought bums. He's fought little small bantamweights and he still can't put them away. Now he's coming in against a monster of a featherweight who hits like a truck. It's over for him. I don't need to say jackshit else. July is a wrap. It's inevitable."

Only two years ago, Dana White went to Dublin to accept an award from Trinity College. It seemed as though everywhere he went, every bar, every street corner, he heard Conor McGregor's name. White has been told about a thousand secret talents over the years; he has assessed an army of local heroes. You will never know their names. But White heard McGregor's name enough that it made him wonder. He flew back to Las Vegas and asked his matchmakers about this Irish kid. They told him McGregor had fought a little, nothing especially noteworthy—fourteen fights, mostly against unknowns, mostly knockout wins, a couple of submission losses. Still curious, White brought his unlikely prospect out to the desert. He remembers driving up the Strip in his Ferrari and McGregor's energy competing with the engine and the lights. White signed him to a five-fight deal without ever seeing him fight.

"He's a penny stock that couldn't have worked out better," White says. "He's one in a million. He has that thing that you can't teach people, whatever it is that makes people gravitate toward you. He has that more than any fighter I've ever met. He makes you believe everything he believes."

Maybe it is a choice whether we abide. Maybe we don't have to be there at nine o'clock sharp. Maybe we don't die.

***
Conor McGregor has been damaged. It was during his first fight in America, in Boston in August 2013. In the second round against Max Holloway, McGregor emerged from a scramble on the ground with an unfamiliar feeling: He couldn't find his feet. Because he really believes what he believes, he still went on to win the fight, but he had torn the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee. It's a devastating injury for any athlete, but for someone like McGregor, it was especially cruel. He was built flawed like the rest of us after all.

He was told to sit still. He didn't listen. "People will study my recovery," he says. He found new ways to work out, shedding the last of his conventional weights and routines. He pressed his body against itself, refusing every invitation to idleness. He did push-ups against hotel-room sinks. He did single-leg squats. He came back and won his next three fights: TKO (first round, eighteen significant strikes landed); TKO (first round, nine); and most recently, against Siver, TKO (second round, sixty-four). Each was the performance of the night; each made him more popular; each made him more certain. "I learned a lot more about how important balance is, how important control of the body is," McGregor says. "From the moment I open my eyes, I'm trying to free my body. I'm trying to get looser, more flexible, to gain control. Movement is medicine to me."

He studied footage of his fights and of animals hunting other animals, and he became closer to one of them than one of us. If he was a breed apart before his knee was blown out, he was his own species after, better than he was. White tore up his contract, and then he tore it up again. In McGregor's fight against Aldo, he will see a cut of the pay-per-view for the first time. Because its outcome is inevitable, and because he has a self-defense mind, he has already begun thinking of what will come next. "I'm interested in movement, and I'm interested in money, and I'm interested in the movement of money," he says. "If I win that belt and we do a million pay-per-views, we can rip up that motherfucker right there and do what the f**k we want."

"Someone like him, the money just rains down," White says. "He's going to get everything he's ever wanted."

Earlier that freezing day in New York, McGregor and Devlin had walked into a Christian Louboutin store in the Meatpacking District. McGregor is a stylish man; for him, clothes are another means of applying pressure to other men. He tried on several pairs of sneakers, ridiculous sneakers, the sort of clown shoes that would get the shit kicked out of a kid who wore them to the wrong school. He got stuck on a pair of gleaming white high-tops studded with rainbow hunks of plastic, little pyramids and diamonds that fought with the smooth red soles for his eye's dubious attention.

"They're f*cking out there," he said, looking at himself in a mirror. "Wouldn't see no one back home wearing a pair of these."

He looked at them some more, turning, convincing himself.

"If you like them, get them," Devlin said.

"If someone says something—whap," he said, and he began firing off kicks in the middle of the store, the taken-aback employees looking at him and his cauliflower ears anew, doing all the mental arithmetic that men do when they're ranking themselves within the orders of other men. "Just snap them in the face," McGregor said, kicking again at the mirror.

"I don't know about them, I have to say," Devlin said.

"If I'm not going to wear 'em out of the store, I'm not getting 'em," he said. Then he nodded to himself. "I'm wearing 'em out."

Devlin laughed and paid for the shoes: $1,700. The leather boots McGregor had worn into the store went into the bag. The new sneakers went out into the snow and slush. They flashed like sirens.

Then a strange thing happened. A family with young daughters walked up to McGregor and asked for his picture. Then a construction worker broke from a road site and asked for one, too. Then a small crowd began to assemble in the cold on the cobblestones, inexplicably drawn to this man, to this machine, wearing shoes that somebody could wear only if he were somebody. McGregor was surrounded, just like that, made captive by his otherness.

He is aware of the irony. "If you're not in the humor of it, it can be heavy," he says, back in his corner of the bar. "People can become familiar with it, like they've known you all your life. That's weird for me. The reason I got into the game was so that people would leave me the f**k alone." He stops, his flashing black eyes looking at how many of the faces in this room are looking back at him. "It's backfired on me," he says.

And then McGregor is what he so rarely is: He is still, and he is quiet. You get the sense that he's recalculating, looking for different exits. He says he has not wondered once whether he might lose to Aldo—"If I entertain things, they tend to come true," he says—but sitting there, in the silence, he feels as though he has it in him, whatever the result, to disappear one day, maybe on a day not all that distant from today. He knows we'll swallow him alive if he stays; even he can't fight all of us off. The only way he'll have complete control is if he leaves. Maybe that's the future he's seen for himself all along, a great train robber's last big score before he makes good his final escape, vanishing into the jungle with his girl.

"We're the only animal that wakes up and doesn't stretch," he says, coming around.

"Look at your dog," Devlin says.

"Wake up and stretch," McGregor says. "Start there."

Start there and end up with everything you've ever wanted. To demonstrate, he announces that he's going back to his fancy hotel and falling into his cloud of a bed. It's three o'clock in the afternoon.

He won't sleep well. He hasn't worked out in two days, and he's edgy about it, as though he's taking his gifts for granted, as though he's forgotten those dark times when he felt trapped. He'll wake up at two in the morning and start prowling around his hotel room, padding across the thick carpets like a jewel thief, climbing the furniture, scaling the walls, walking upside down across the ceiling, learning how to move through the universe.

A few hours later, you'll wake up, the shadow of his arms still pressed around your neck. You'll get out of bed, and you'll stretch.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 01, 2016, 09:19:35 PM
Conor seems desperate to get back onto the UFC 200 card
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on May 11, 2016, 02:22:12 PM
This McGregor v Mayweather talk.  Normally these things pop up on social media and are very quickly rubbished and people move on.  This time it seems to be lingering around a little and even gathering a little pace.  Still smell bullsh*t?

Also, rumours that UFC is up for sale.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on May 11, 2016, 04:15:08 PM
I heard that McGregor and Mayweather where in the process of buying UFC, and that they where going to headline UFC 200 with their own bout.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on May 11, 2016, 04:55:51 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on May 11, 2016, 02:22:12 PM
This McGregor v Mayweather talk.  Normally these things pop up on social media and are very quickly rubbished and people move on.  This time it seems to be lingering around a little and even gathering a little pace.  Still smell bullsh*t?

Also, rumours that UFC is up for sale.
ESPN had a story this week that a sale was near agreed for up to $4billion. The brothers who own it bought it for €2million in 2001.
But Dana White immediately came out and said it's not for sale.

If Conor was actually capable of competing with Mayweather in a boxing ring would he not already be boxing? Generally more money to be made in elite boxing than UFC/MMA.

Be interesting to see how Conor would actually get on in a boxing ring, but I think a decent Irish fighter might be a step too far for him, never mind Mayweather.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on May 11, 2016, 05:32:21 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 11, 2016, 04:55:51 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on May 11, 2016, 02:22:12 PM
This McGregor v Mayweather talk.  Normally these things pop up on social media and are very quickly rubbished and people move on.  This time it seems to be lingering around a little and even gathering a little pace.  Still smell bullsh*t?

Also, rumours that UFC is up for sale.
ESPN had a story this week that a sale was near agreed for up to $4billion. The brothers who own it bought it for €2million in 2001.
But Dana White immediately came out and said it's not for sale.

If Conor was actually capable of competing with Mayweather in a boxing ring would he not already be boxing? Generally more money to be made in elite boxing than UFC/MMA.

Be interesting to see how Conor would actually get on in a boxing ring, but I think a decent Irish fighter might be a step too far for him, never mind Mayweather.

Mayweather's Dad would be a better fight for McGregor.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on May 26, 2016, 10:35:44 AM
*NEW* CONOR MCGREGOR FULL INTERVIEW WITH ESPN - 'MAYWEATHER NEEDS ME'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-6_SDinTBI
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 26, 2016, 10:42:43 AM
Aye, OK.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 05, 2016, 05:43:00 AM
Lesnar back and fighting at 200.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: downtown on June 05, 2016, 07:59:12 AM
Mc gregor/Diaz confirmed for august
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 05, 2016, 10:11:20 AM
Great to see Bisping grasp his shot. Rockhold's cockiness hit him knocked the f**k out. And he deserved it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 05, 2016, 10:16:06 AM
I see your man Helwani got banned from UFC for life.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 05, 2016, 10:27:32 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 05, 2016, 10:16:06 AM
I see your man Helwani got banned from UFC for life.

Are, forgot to mention this. Complete disgrace, they're nothing more than a shower of bullies. The man was doing his job, nothing more.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 05, 2016, 11:18:49 AM
Quote from: gallsman on June 05, 2016, 05:43:00 AM
Lesnar back and fighting at 200.
He'll have to cut back on the angel dust between now and then. Man looks like a bull ready for mart.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Club Rossa on June 05, 2016, 12:16:04 PM
Was so sure Rockhold would handle Bisping I didn't even bother to stay up for it :o watched it this morning and couldn't believe how laid back and relaxed Rockhold looked before it.He said afterwards that he took Bisping for granted.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 05, 2016, 12:34:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 05, 2016, 11:18:49 AM
Quote from: gallsman on June 05, 2016, 05:43:00 AM
Lesnar back and fighting at 200.
He'll have to cut back on the angel dust between now and then. Man looks like a bull ready for mart.

He's always been a chunky f**ker. Much more of an athlete than guys like Alstair Overeem who are much more of what you're insinuating.

Interesting to see him back. With only a month left to the show this has to be some jobber, surely? WWE say a one-off opportunity but they have to be planning more fights.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 06, 2016, 03:27:48 PM
199 was some card  - may not have looked great on paper but the fighters delivered. The PPV was fantastic.  Funny to see so many americans cheering for Bisping when he won. Maybe because Rockhold is a dick.... Bisping is a likable bollox ha delighted to see him win.  Dan Henderson - wtf was that lol??? Though Max Holloway looked sharp - he has some of the best boxing in MMA I'd love to see him and Diaz box at 155. Poirier looked great dispatching Bobby Green.
Roll on UFC 200 now - was already looking forward to Jones v Cormier but auld Brock adds a bit of excitement to the card! I'd say he gets Mark Hunt or the matchup everyone wants  - Fedor.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 06, 2016, 03:35:10 PM
If you haven't seen it, watch the Reyes-Kim bout. Very first one of the day. Brutal stuff.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on June 06, 2016, 03:54:48 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on June 06, 2016, 03:27:48 PM
199 was some card  - may not have looked great on paper but the fighters delivered. The PPV was fantastic.  Funny to see so many americans cheering for Bisping when he won. Maybe because Rockhold is a dick.... Bisping is a likable bollox ha delighted to see him win.  Dan Henderson - wtf was that lol??? Though Max Holloway looked sharp - he has some of the best boxing in MMA I'd love to see him and Diaz box at 155. Poirier looked great dispatching Bobby Green.
Roll on UFC 200 now - was already looking forward to Jones v Cormier but auld Brock adds a bit of excitement to the card! I'd say he gets Mark Hunt or the matchup everyone wants  - Fedor.

brutal knockout that one. def looked like he caught him with the old headbutt too.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 06, 2016, 05:14:19 PM
Lesnar confirmed as fighting Mark Hunt.

KO1 Hunt.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 06, 2016, 06:25:41 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 06, 2016, 05:14:19 PM
Lesnar confirmed as fighting Mark Hunt.

KO1 Hunt.
It's a hard one to call. 1st round KO very possible - but Brock could come out hard and fast and take him down and ground n pound in brutal fashion....I don't think Brock will try to stand with him.  Mir is a JJ guy and has no real wrestling so he couldn't take Hunt down.  Brock should be able to do that (hopefully) before Hunt catches him. Though Hunt is a brute of a man too... legs like tree trunks and shorter...
definitely worth tuning in for!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on June 07, 2016, 09:07:41 AM
Kimbo Slice dead.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 07, 2016, 01:27:52 PM
Leaner should win easy enough.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 07, 2016, 01:33:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 07, 2016, 01:27:52 PM
Leaner should win easy enough.

Rubbish. He won't have fought in four and a half years and well be going up against one of the hardest hitters around. Hunt has decent takedown defense too.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 07, 2016, 04:43:45 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 07, 2016, 01:33:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 07, 2016, 01:27:52 PM
Leaner should win easy enough.

Rubbish. He won't have fought in four and a half years and well be going up against one of the hardest hitters around. Hunt has decent takedown defense too.
I doubt if lesnar is in any decent shape to fight at all with his well documented health problems however the fight is all about the ratings and money it will make.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 08, 2016, 03:33:08 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 07, 2016, 04:43:45 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 07, 2016, 01:33:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 07, 2016, 01:27:52 PM
Leaner should win easy enough.

Rubbish. He won't have fought in four and a half years and well be going up against one of the hardest hitters around. Hunt has decent takedown defense too.
I doubt if lesnar is in any decent shape to fight at all with his well documented health problems however the fight is all about the ratings and money it will make.
Lesnar hadn't competed in MMA at any level when he joined the UFC back in the day.  He came in from fake wrestling and ploughed through some seasoned Heavyweights and I genuinely believe his sickness got the better of him.  If he is healthy now, as he says he is, then he has a real chance to put Hunt down and keep him down for the win.

He is an ego-maniac - he isn't coming to the UFC to take a fall....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 08, 2016, 05:06:42 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on June 08, 2016, 03:33:08 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 07, 2016, 04:43:45 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 07, 2016, 01:33:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 07, 2016, 01:27:52 PM
Leaner should win easy enough.

Rubbish. He won't have fought in four and a half years and well be going up against one of the hardest hitters around. Hunt has decent takedown defense too.
I doubt if lesnar is in any decent shape to fight at all with his well documented health problems however the fight is all about the ratings and money it will make.
Lesnar hadn't competed in MMA at any level when he joined the UFC back in the day.  He came in from fake wrestling and ploughed through some seasoned Heavyweights and I genuinely believe his sickness got the better of him.  If he is healthy now, as he says he is, then he has a real chance to put Hunt down and keep him down for the win.

He is an ego-maniac - he isn't coming to the UFC to take a fall....

In fairness now, he came in from fake wrestling after a stellar career as a real wrestler in college. The guy is an athletic freak.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 08, 2016, 05:12:58 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 08, 2016, 05:06:42 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on June 08, 2016, 03:33:08 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 07, 2016, 04:43:45 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 07, 2016, 01:33:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 07, 2016, 01:27:52 PM
Leaner should win easy enough.

Rubbish. He won't have fought in four and a half years and well be going up against one of the hardest hitters around. Hunt has decent takedown defense too.
I doubt if lesnar is in any decent shape to fight at all with his well documented health problems however the fight is all about the ratings and money it will make.
Lesnar hadn't competed in MMA at any level when he joined the UFC back in the day.  He came in from fake wrestling and ploughed through some seasoned Heavyweights and I genuinely believe his sickness got the better of him.  If he is healthy now, as he says he is, then he has a real chance to put Hunt down and keep him down for the win.

He is an ego-maniac - he isn't coming to the UFC to take a fall....

In fairness now, he came in from fake wrestling after a stellar career as a real wrestler in college. The guy is an athletic freak.
right...my point is though that not competing in MMA for the past 4 years may not make a difference - given how he came into the sport... he became the HW champion in his 4th or 5th fight?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 08, 2016, 08:27:46 PM
Yeah, but the quality was nowhere near what it is now. He beat Couture to win the title who, while a legend, was about half the size of Lesnar!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: tonto1888 on June 09, 2016, 10:36:54 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on June 08, 2016, 03:33:08 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 07, 2016, 04:43:45 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 07, 2016, 01:33:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 07, 2016, 01:27:52 PM
Leaner should win easy enough.

Rubbish. He won't have fought in four and a half years and well be going up against one of the hardest hitters around. Hunt has decent takedown defense too.
I doubt if lesnar is in any decent shape to fight at all with his well documented health problems however the fight is all about the ratings and money it will make.
Lesnar hadn't competed in MMA at any level when he joined the UFC back in the day.  He came in from fake wrestling and ploughed through some seasoned Heavyweights and I genuinely believe his sickness got the better of him.  If he is healthy now, as he says he is, then he has a real chance to put Hunt down and keep him down for the win.

He is an ego-maniac - he isn't coming to the UFC to take a fall....

not true . He fought for K1 before joining the UFC

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Brock-Lesnar-17522
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 09, 2016, 10:29:49 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 09, 2016, 10:36:54 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on June 08, 2016, 03:33:08 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 07, 2016, 04:43:45 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 07, 2016, 01:33:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 07, 2016, 01:27:52 PM
Leaner should win easy enough.

Rubbish. He won't have fought in four and a half years and well be going up against one of the hardest hitters around. Hunt has decent takedown defense too.
I doubt if lesnar is in any decent shape to fight at all with his well documented health problems however the fight is all about the ratings and money it will make.
Lesnar hadn't competed in MMA at any level when he joined the UFC back in the day.  He came in from fake wrestling and ploughed through some seasoned Heavyweights and I genuinely believe his sickness got the better of him.  If he is healthy now, as he says he is, then he has a real chance to put Hunt down and keep him down for the win.

He is an ego-maniac - he isn't coming to the UFC to take a fall....

not true . He fought for K1 before joining the UFC

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Brock-Lesnar-17522
he fought for 1.09 in K1 before joining the UFC. His opponent fought 10 times in 4 years and had a record of 3-7.  Although you can technically say he did "compete", in my book 1minute and 9 seconds doesn't constitute much of a build up to enter the UFC.  My point still remains  - the 4 years out of MMA may not make a difference - his strengths today are still what they were - take downs and GnP
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 07, 2016, 05:43:05 AM
Bones Jones out of UFC 200  - sounds like a failed drug test
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 07, 2016, 06:49:06 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 07, 2016, 05:43:05 AM
Bones Jones out of UFC 200  - sounds like a failed drug test

They'll surely wash their hands of him now.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 07, 2016, 04:07:42 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 07, 2016, 06:49:06 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 07, 2016, 05:43:05 AM
Bones Jones out of UFC 200  - sounds like a failed drug test

They'll surely wash their hands of him now.
It's a hard one to call.  PEDs, tainted supplements? I don't know. I've always been a huge fan inside the cage but what a mess the man has made of things outside of it... HE makes a lot of money for the UFC - 200 has lost its main event - Brock and Hunt isn't a main event for me...interested to see what he has to say at the press conference later today...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 08, 2016, 01:11:17 PM
Great win for Duffy last night and Eddie Alvarez takes the LW belt from RDA
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on July 08, 2016, 03:58:14 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 08, 2016, 01:11:17 PM
Great win for Duffy last night and Eddie Alvarez takes the LW belt from RDA

Watched a clip on twitter of the Alvarez fight with some commentator completely losing the bap. funniest thing ive seen in a while.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 08, 2016, 04:37:51 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on July 08, 2016, 03:58:14 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 08, 2016, 01:11:17 PM
Great win for Duffy last night and Eddie Alvarez takes the LW belt from RDA

Watched a clip on twitter of the Alvarez fight with some commentator completely losing the bap. funniest thing ive seen in a while.

Herb Dean had another special in that fight. Should have been stopped before the flying knee.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 08, 2016, 07:48:38 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 08, 2016, 04:37:51 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on July 08, 2016, 03:58:14 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 08, 2016, 01:11:17 PM
Great win for Duffy last night and Eddie Alvarez takes the LW belt from RDA

Watched a clip on twitter of the Alvarez fight with some commentator completely losing the bap. funniest thing ive seen in a while.

Herb Dean had another special in that fight. Should have been stopped before the flying knee.
think he had to give RDA the benefit of the doubt being the champion.... boys have come back from worse and RDA has a notorious chin
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on July 09, 2016, 12:47:03 AM
Lesnar looks far from unwell at the weigh in, he looks unreal.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on July 09, 2016, 10:52:06 AM

http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/brock-lesnar-ufc-granted-exemption-from-early-drug-testing-ahead-of-ufc-200-060916

And he had the balls to stick the boot into Jones
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 09, 2016, 02:13:15 PM
Lesnar has been tested 6 times by the USADA since he agreed to return
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 09, 2016, 04:54:28 PM
And Lance Armstrong never tested positive. Yeah, the point is that he's supposed to inform of his intention to fight and come out of retirement four months in advance. You only have to look at him to see the guy is juiced up to the gills. He could have been on whatever the hell he wanted for God knows how long.

The use of exemptions, therapeutic or otherwise in sport is scandalous. Floyd Mayweather is a prime example of someone who has far too much influence and gets things whatever way he wants.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on July 09, 2016, 07:07:00 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 09, 2016, 02:13:15 PM
Lesnar has been tested 6 times by the USADA since he agreed to return

But wasn't allowed to be tested before an agreed date. No prizes for guessing why. USADA aren't daft - they know his system is flushed - but they're making their point.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on July 09, 2016, 11:21:40 PM
Wasnt allowed? he was a retired sports man. Lesnar has been a freak of nature his whole life but who knows really. 'todays supplements are tomorrows PEDs''
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 09, 2016, 11:33:30 PM
Lesnar looks like a bull ready for mart. A bull that has been on angel dust. Juiced to the eyeballs.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on July 09, 2016, 11:45:55 PM
Where's a good place to watch this online tonight?

Polish doll is some fighter, she could've went ten rounds
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 10, 2016, 04:11:54 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm-KmKMVIAAf-R4.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 10, 2016, 05:38:32 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on July 09, 2016, 11:21:40 PM
Wasnt allowed? he was a retired sports man. Lesnar has been a freak of nature his whole life but who knows really. 'todays supplements are tomorrows PEDs''

Which is why the four month notice period exists. It was waived for Brock.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on July 10, 2016, 07:53:16 AM
Jesus Tait finally gets her belt and then throws it all away against Nunes in the first round.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on July 10, 2016, 09:09:27 AM

Whole card was thoroughly underwhelming
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 10, 2016, 09:55:08 AM
It was dreadful. Aldo-Edgar was decent I guess.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 10, 2016, 10:11:22 AM
That women's fight on Friday was a cracker.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 11, 2016, 12:43:26 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jul/11/ufc-sale-4bn-dana-white-wme-img?CMP=share_btn_tw

QuoteThe UFC has been sold for approximately $4bn to a group led by Hollywood talent agency WME-IMG. The UFC president Dana White confirmed the sale of the mixed martial arts company to The Associated Press on Sunday night.

WME co-CEO Ari Emanuel also announced the sale early Monday in an internal company email that included SNTV — a joint venture between AP and IMG.

"We've been honored to have UFC and a number of its athletes as clients and couldn't be happier to take our relationship to this next level as the organization's owner and operating partner," Emanuel said.

White will stay on to run the UFC, which has grown into a global entertainment brand. UFC owners Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta have left the company after nearly 16 years, although they'll retain a minority interest. The Abu Dhabi government still owns 10% of the UFC as well.

The New York Times first reported the completion of the long-rumored deal. It has financial backing from private equity firms Silver Lake Partners, which owns WME-IMG, and Kohlberg Kravis Roberts, along with the investment firm of billionaire Michael Dell, founder of Dell Computers.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 11, 2016, 01:42:37 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 11, 2016, 12:43:26 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jul/11/ufc-sale-4bn-dana-white-wme-img?CMP=share_btn_tw

QuoteThe UFC has been sold for approximately $4bn to a group led by Hollywood talent agency WME-IMG. The UFC president Dana White confirmed the sale of the mixed martial arts company to The Associated Press on Sunday night.

WME co-CEO Ari Emanuel also announced the sale early Monday in an internal company email that included SNTV — a joint venture between AP and IMG.

"We've been honored to have UFC and a number of its athletes as clients and couldn't be happier to take our relationship to this next level as the organization's owner and operating partner," Emanuel said.

White will stay on to run the UFC, which has grown into a global entertainment brand. UFC owners Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta have left the company after nearly 16 years, although they'll retain a minority interest. The Abu Dhabi government still owns 10% of the UFC as well.

The New York Times first reported the completion of the long-rumored deal. It has financial backing from private equity firms Silver Lake Partners, which owns WME-IMG, and Kohlberg Kravis Roberts, along with the investment firm of billionaire Michael Dell, founder of Dell Computers.
Decent wee lift for the Fertitti's. $2 million to $4 billion in 16 years.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 11, 2016, 04:27:54 PM
will be interesting to see where they want to go with this. Fertitas custom built that new casion in VEgas for UFC fights - I'd say there is a deal in there to host plenty of events going forward. Some chunk of change....Dana White done alright out of it.... Joe Rogan will likely leave now.  Chael Sonnen could get the nod to replace him or even Dana....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 11, 2016, 04:40:30 PM
Rogan has been talking about leaving for a while and it's not before time. He's become a parody of himself.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 11, 2016, 08:14:20 PM
What's the problem with Joe Rogan?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 11, 2016, 09:19:11 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 11, 2016, 08:14:20 PM
What's the problem with Joe Rogan?

He's a shite commentator who can't contain himself and resorts to the same exclamations over and over again.

Oh. OHHHH!

He's hurt!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 11, 2016, 09:27:25 PM
I nearly forgot. Away from the UFC, he spouts endless pseudo-intellectual gibberish and is a complete shill for the various sponsors on his podcast which, MMA analysis aside, is largely f**king terrible. He rarely, if ever, challenges any of his guest on anything they say. He had Lance Armstrong on last year and they basically spent three hours spinning Armstrong's story about being a victim. The man is a twat.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 16, 2016, 12:11:00 AM
Lesnar popped by USADA.

*so shocked*
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on July 16, 2016, 03:17:58 PM
The strabanimal making his bellator debit tonight live on TV
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 18, 2016, 03:41:38 PM
He didn't look as good as he has and his opponent wasn't up to much.... He said afterwards he came through a lot to even get to the cage so I wonder if he was injured or what happened him - I follow him online and there was never any mention of any bother in fact he was out at concerts and parties like any 19 year old.
Gallagher is solid on the ground but his standup isn't there yet and he hasn't KO power. He's the same weight as McGregor and McGregor would eat him for breakfast. He has a long way to go and I know I touted him a few years back as a future champ but I haven't seen enough development to merit that anymore. He's a decent fighter. He has big money backing from KHK MMA and a good gym but he isn't another McGregor and I can't see him holding a belt in Bellator
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 17, 2016, 10:04:37 PM
A farce of a press conference between Diaz and McGregor earlier
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GJL on August 17, 2016, 10:05:56 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 17, 2016, 10:04:37 PM
A farce of a press conference between Diaz and McGregor earlier

Getting more like WWF all the time. Hard to take it seriously.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omagh_gael on August 17, 2016, 10:20:13 PM
That was embarrassing. Vince McMahon would've taken a redner at that shite.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: on the sideline on August 17, 2016, 10:21:57 PM
Quote from: GJL on August 17, 2016, 10:05:56 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 17, 2016, 10:04:37 PM
A farce of a press conference between Diaz and McGregor earlier

Getting more like WWF all the time. Hard to take it seriously.
.

The weigh in will be tasty now after that though. Looking forward to Saturday night!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 17, 2016, 10:34:46 PM
Embarrassing pantomime shite. Actually fancy McGregor in this one for once.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 17, 2016, 10:35:42 PM
It's got everyone talking! Twitter going mad about it and exactly what they wanted!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on August 17, 2016, 10:42:48 PM
Quote from: gallsman on August 17, 2016, 10:34:46 PM
Embarrassing pantomime shite. Actually fancy McGregor in this one for once.

definitely respect your opinion when it comes to MMA - why are going with CMG this time?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 18, 2016, 12:13:40 AM
I don't really know. I don't buy into the "McGregor busted him up" for 8 minutes argument as Diaz has always been able to take five shots to land one and, like nick, his face is a mass of scar tissue that cuts easily. Diaz looks in the shape of his life, as does McGregor in fairness. McGregor has obviously paid a lot more attention to his ground hand but I think the fight will be 99% on the feet again and McGregor is definitely more skilled in that aspect. If his conditioning is where it needs to be at 170, I think he can simply outlast Diaz and win by stoppage due to sheer accumulation of strikes. Don't see a knockout gathering from anyone other than Diaz. Just too big and McGregor has to ration his energy a lot more this time.

McGregor win, hell try for fight against Aldo and struggle to make weight, give up 145 belt and go to 155 against Khabib will be champion by then. Then get suplexed into next week.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on August 18, 2016, 12:54:22 AM
Quote from: gallsman on August 18, 2016, 12:13:40 AM
I don't really know. I don't buy into the "McGregor chatted him up" for 8 minutes argument as Diaz has always been able to take five shots to land one and, like nick, his face is a mass of scar tissue that cuts easily. Diaz looks in the shape of his life, as does McGregor in fairness. McGregor has obviously paid a lot more attention to his ground hand but I think the fight will be 99% on the feet again and McGregor is definitely more skilled in that aspect. If his conditioning is where it needs to be at 170, I think he can simply outlast Diaz and win by stoppage due to sheer accumulation of strikes. Don't see a knockout gathering from anyone other than Diaz. Just too big and McGregor has to ration his energy a lot more this time.

McGregor win, hell try for fight against Aldo and struggle to make weight, give up 145 belt and go to 155 against Khabib will be champion by then. Then get suplexed into next week.
I hope you are right about the win.... I just don't see it happening. Diaz' boxing is phenomenal, he knows how to use his reach and i think he is in Mcgregor's head...he also has shown he has the power to rock McGreogr if not stop him on the feet.  Conor has some great kicks and he may well attack that lead leg and the gut but I think Diaz can take those all day and just fight through it.  I agree it won't go to the ground unless Conor is point scoring at the end of the round where Diaz doesn't have enough time to mount an attack from the bottom.

I see a TKO by Diaz in the 3rd.  He's going to talk and talk to Mcgregor and laugh at him and taunt him and McGregor will be like Clubber Lang throwing big bombs and getting tired.  Diaz will eat whatever CMG has to dish out then start popping him...

I said before I'm a fan of Mcgregor - I have his autograph on my bookshelf here in my office.  But this is a bad matchup for him and a loss is a failed experiment at 170.  He already has an exit, an escape route that Diaz talked about and I don't see the hunger when something like that is place....

I'm buying the PPV either way
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 18, 2016, 06:18:44 AM
He'll definitely have to use more kicks to keep Nate off him. He's experimented with oblique kicks before which would be useful as Nate is very heavy on the front foot.

Coming out and throwing bombs is the one thing I don't think he'll do. That's what gassed him in the first fight. He'll still be very active but will pick and choose his shots much more wisely. Speed is the one big accuracy he has.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on August 19, 2016, 06:38:07 AM
What's the opinion of the old school UFC fans of McGregor? Do they like the pantomime he brings with him cause it increases the popularity of the sport or is he a cancer on the sport that appears to be turning the pre fight stuff anyway into the WWE?

I am new to it but love his shit. Barely watched it before then. First fight I ever seen when I was in Chattanooga in 96 on the ulster project. Couldn't believe what I was seeing. Defo not an expert but watch what I can and will be heading out to a bar full of yanks to cheer him on. Remember going out for the Mendez fight only to find out he is from Hanford about 40 miles from where I live. Had no idea, so when Mendez was getting the better of him the place was going nuts, McGregor hits him a couple of sucks and it's done. Only me and 2 Mexican fellas celebrating the whole place!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2016, 09:03:37 AM
Generally, he's liked because he's undeniably talented in the octagon and, for all his bluster, generally backs it up. Like most people though, able to see that he's a complete tit at times.

I reckon a lot of people are secretly hoping some good comes off the back of the recent friction between him and the powers that be. No fighter in UFC history has ever had more power than him (Lesnar close) so there's a hope that McGregor could spearhead a bit of a revolution in terms of fighter welfare. Don't see it happening myself though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on August 19, 2016, 09:39:25 AM
Outside of McGregor I know diddly about UFC. I watched the last fight, and seeing the condition Diaz is in compared to the last outing, I'd fear he'll win again, albeit it might last longer. McGregor has won me over though, I'd really like to see him win.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 19, 2016, 10:31:10 AM
Hope I'm wrong but I can't see how McGregor can win it. People say he's the better boxer - but you saw in the previous fight how powerful Diaz was when he got through just before they went to ground. And if it does hit the floor there's only one winner too.

Maybe he can do an Ali and tire Diaz out. How has Diaz tended to lose his fights?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2016, 10:52:25 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 19, 2016, 10:31:10 AM
Hope I'm wrong but I can't see how McGregor can win it. People say he's the better boxer - but you saw in the previous fight how powerful Diaz was when he got through just before they went to ground. And if it does hit the floor there's only one winner too.

Maybe he can do an Ali and tire Diaz out. How has Diaz tended to lose his fights?

He's only been stopped once. Diaz's cardio is superb. Unlikely to tire. Hopefully McGregor has learned that it's not as easy to knock out bigger fighters with one punch and doesn't try and throw an absolute bomb of a left hand at every opportunity.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on August 19, 2016, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 19, 2016, 10:31:10 AM
Hope I'm wrong but I can't see how McGregor can win it. People say he's the better boxer - but you saw in the previous fight how powerful Diaz was when he got through just before they went to ground. And if it does hit the floor there's only one winner too.

Maybe he can do an Ali and tire Diaz out. How has Diaz tended to lose his fights?

Im no expert in UFC, but based on the last fight, it's more likely that McGregor will be the one to tire first.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on August 19, 2016, 01:07:05 PM
McGreor will be smarter and pace himself.  He won't throw power shots every time and as for the last fight, it was a combination of fighting carrying an extra two stone that he wasn't used to as well along with putting everything into every punch that tired him.  I'm sure the past few months have got him accustomed to carrying the extra weight and endurance won't be a problem.  Still would favour Diaz simply due to his size, but he has been beat a lot and has been knocked out before too.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 19, 2016, 01:20:24 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 19, 2016, 01:07:05 PM
McGreor will be smarter and pace himself.  He won't throw power shots every time and as for the last fight, it was a combination of fighting carrying an extra two stone that he wasn't used to as well along with putting everything into every punch that tired him.  I'm sure the past few months have got him accustomed to carrying the extra weight and endurance won't be a problem.  Still would favour Diaz simply due to his size, but he has been beat a lot and has been knocked out before too.

I think if McGregor stays away from the big shots and stays off the ground he's probably the better striker. . . If he can pace himself and pick off Diaz with jabs the whole time he could well win the fight on points!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 19, 2016, 01:59:24 PM
Is this bandwagon out of the garage again? Someone will win this fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on August 19, 2016, 03:53:51 PM
You never know which fight is going to be good but based on past performance you can have a good idea of what to tune in for.  For the newer fans I would encourage you to watch:
Main card  - last 3 fights  - definitely watch all three.
O the undercard - Garbrandt v Mizugaki
Magny v Larkin

If i was a betting man I would do a wee accumulator on Avila, Garbrandt, Cerrone, Diaz
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2016, 04:53:16 PM
Cerrone has looked absolutely nasty at welterweight. Last fight on his contact so interesting to see what happens after.

Can't see anything other than a big Rumble KO in the co-main.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 19, 2016, 05:26:02 PM
Wouldn't have too much knowledge about the UFC at all, but ran into a female UFC fighter who is firmly in the Diaz camp during the week. She suggested CMG didn't have much chance at all. I didn't read back here, but how much was made or not made of the fact that Diaz took the first fight on 11 days notice - while in the midst of a party somewhere on the ocean. Granted CMG only had 11 days to change his style to suit the new opponent, but the suggestion from this lass was that the result will remain the same.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on August 19, 2016, 05:41:11 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on August 19, 2016, 05:26:02 PM
Wouldn't have too much knowledge about the UFC at all, but ran into a female UFC fighter who is firmly in the Diaz camp during the week. She suggested CMG didn't have much chance at all. I didn't read back here, but how much was made or not made of the fact that Diaz took the first fight on 11 days notice - while in the midst of a party somewhere on the ocean. Granted CMG only had 11 days to change his style to suit the new opponent, but the suggestion from this lass was that the result will remain the same.
100% agree.  Will be a good fight but a bad matchup for CMG
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on August 19, 2016, 06:13:26 PM
What type of fighters did Diaz lose to then? His record isn't that great
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on August 19, 2016, 06:34:18 PM
read back through the thread - i broke it down for the first fight
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2016, 06:43:42 PM
McGregor at 168, did at 171.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 19, 2016, 08:20:09 PM
Quote from: gallsman on August 19, 2016, 06:43:42 PM
McGregor at 168, did at 171.

Where's Mickey Harte with the coffee beans when you need him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 19, 2016, 10:57:10 PM
November 19 - UFC Fight Night : Belfast
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2016, 01:03:24 AM
What happens if there are quick finishes to the undercard? Do they bomb ahead anyway?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gmac on August 21, 2016, 01:05:39 AM
Diaz looks in some shape compared to last fight And has got under Mcgregors skin big time.
Don't see the result being any different unless cmc can strike and move and go the distance.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 21, 2016, 01:09:27 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 21, 2016, 01:03:24 AM
What happens if there are quick finishes to the undercard? Do they bomb ahead anyway?
Presume on PPV you're tied to agreed schedules for advertising etc.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2016, 01:11:29 AM
Up Randa Markos
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 21, 2016, 01:11:59 AM
what time the fight start?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on August 21, 2016, 03:12:06 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 21, 2016, 01:11:59 AM
what time the fight start?

Right now!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: heganboy on August 21, 2016, 03:53:55 AM
Cerrone for this one lads? Complete clueless newbie tbh
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: heganboy on August 21, 2016, 04:22:45 AM
Cerrone handy win

Next up Teixiera and Johnson I think
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2016, 04:31:50 AM
Jesus. Some punch.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: heganboy on August 21, 2016, 04:33:17 AM
Holy crap.  Big Anthony Johnson. Big big punch.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 04:33:23 AM
Quote from: gallsman on August 19, 2016, 04:53:16 PM
Can't see anything other than a big Rumble KO in the co-main.

Well then.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 21, 2016, 04:34:19 AM
Was that Teixiera tooth that went flying during the knock out?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 21, 2016, 04:39:09 AM
Huge punch!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 04:41:32 AM
Interesting point for anyone new to watching about how far the sport has come in terms of regulation etc. Anthony Johnson used to cut down to welterweight, the weight McGregor and Diaz are fighting at.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 21, 2016, 04:49:34 AM
Some experience for Conor Wallace, he's in McGregor's corner tonight as well.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 21, 2016, 05:09:48 AM
Mcgregor slowing big time
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 21, 2016, 05:10:32 AM
What is McGregor at? Twice he could have finished this fight but allowed Diaz up.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 21, 2016, 05:13:40 AM
Diaz is in control
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on August 21, 2016, 05:14:39 AM
McGregor goosed here by the looks of it!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 05:15:46 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 21, 2016, 05:10:32 AM
What is McGregor at? Twice he could have finished this fight but allowed Diaz up.

They were flash knockdowns, Diaz was defending on his back immediately. McGregor didn't want to risk getting into a ground fight with a guy with much superior BJJ.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 05:20:05 AM
Great recovery round from McGregor.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on August 21, 2016, 05:22:56 AM
209 needs a stoppage
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 21, 2016, 05:28:24 AM
Some respect between the two at the end wasn't expecting that.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: NetNitrate on August 21, 2016, 05:31:33 AM
First time I watched MMA. Was a great fight. 50/50 really in the end.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 05:32:09 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 21, 2016, 05:28:24 AM
Some respect between the two at the end wasn't expecting that.

The two of them clearly like each other and did so before this fight.

I think fair enough decision. The takedown probably sealed the fifth for Diaz to make it 48-47. I think McGregor clearly won the first, fourth and i think he did enough in the first three and a half minutes of the second to win it before Diaz came on strong.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2016, 05:33:54 AM
McGregor had to dig deep there in the middle. Seemed gassed. Well executed fight plan.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: heganboy on August 21, 2016, 05:39:51 AM
holy crap- that was some fight, mcgregor did enough in the first 3 to hold on. he boxed the head off him, and I disagree with captain obvious, I think mcgregor stayed the hell away from the ground war. I think he would have taken a beating there, had to stay on his feet to hold the points victory.
Round 3?

Can Diaz really fight at 155?
6 foot and 155 against the guy at his natural weight, i think he'd be in bother.

Man that is a brutal exhibition there. Some advertisement for the sport.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on August 21, 2016, 05:43:22 AM
Quote from: gallsman on August 18, 2016, 06:18:44 AM
He'll definitely have to use more kicks to keep Nate off him. He's experimented with oblique kicks before which would be useful as Nate is very heavy on the front foot.

Coming out and throwing bombs is the one thing I don't think he'll do. That's what gassed him in the first fight. He'll still be very active but will pick and choose his shots much more wisely. Speed is the one big accuracy he has.
Good prediction gallsman. Fascinating fight. Always find UFC a far more gripping watch than boxing. Full of admiration for those fighters.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 05:49:48 AM
McGregor broken foot apparently. Diaz checked some of the kicks so potentially broke it on his shin and might explain why he laid off the kicks. Dunno when it happened but shows McGregor's toughness as he didn't give a hint of it at all, didn't complain about it in his interview.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 05:55:25 AM
Quote from: heganboy on August 21, 2016, 05:39:51 AM

Can Diaz really fight at 155?
6 foot and 155 against the guy at his natural weight, i think he'd be in bother.

Diaz is a big, big lightweight but not a particularly big welterweight. Lightweight is his true home. The amount of water these guys cut to make weight is insane. If (there will be, although not immediately) there's a third fight with millions on the line, Diaz will make weight without too much difficulty. These two fights haven't really been welterweight fights - they've been lightweight fights without a cut.

155 is McGregor's real home too. He should be done at 170 as true, elite welterweights would murder him - GSP, MacDonald, Wonderboy etc. If he can make 145 again, do it for Aldo rematch and possibly Edgar (although less important and relevant after Aldo dismantled at 200) and that should be him done at 145.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: on the sideline on August 21, 2016, 06:05:25 AM
Quote from: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 05:32:09 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 21, 2016, 05:28:24 AM
Some respect between the two at the end wasn't expecting that.

The two of them clearly like each other and did so before this fight.

I think fair enough decision. The takedown probably sealed the fifth for Diaz to make it 48-47. I think McGregor clearly won the first, fourth and i think he did enough in the first three and a half minutes of the second to win it before Diaz came on strong.

That's how I scored it as well. Thought he was gone at the end of the 3rd round. The fourth was a phenomenal recovery.  Fair play to him.  Thought his defence of the takedowns was excellent. 
Great fight from both of them. Every round felt like it flew watching it - apart from the last one in round three where he was holding on big time.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 21, 2016, 10:31:47 AM
I got up at half 5 to watch it and the fecking thing was over  ::)
Anywhere I can  watch it today?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: take_yer_points on August 21, 2016, 10:54:16 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 21, 2016, 10:31:47 AM
I got up at half 5 to watch it and the fecking thing was over  ::)
Anywhere I can  watch it today?

http://www.benchwarmers.ie/bench/watch-conor-mcgregor-vs-nate-diaz-ii-ufc-202-full-fight/70036/#.V7lzfK_TWBZ
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 21, 2016, 10:55:17 AM
Thanks lad.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 11:53:43 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 21, 2016, 10:31:47 AM
I got up at half 5 to watch it and the fecking thing was over  ::)
Anywhere I can  watch it today?

You have sports mania, no? They have a great on demand section. Fights will always be in there a few hours after they finish.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 21, 2016, 01:37:50 PM
Quote from: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 11:53:43 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 21, 2016, 10:31:47 AM
I got up at half 5 to watch it and the fecking thing was over  ::)
Anywhere I can  watch it today?

You have sports mania, no? They have a great on demand section. Fights will always be in there a few hours after they finish.
Yeah found it on the VOD section.

I know little to nothing about UFC and have only ever watched McGregor's fights before.
Could that have gone the other way last night? There didn't seem to be a clear winner in my mind anyway.
Just wondering  maybe McGregor was given it so that there would be a 3rd fight?
Like I said I know very little about the sport so maybe McGregor was a clear winner to those who understand the scoring.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 01:55:03 PM
I don't think it could have been a Diaz win. At a stretch a draw. McGregor clearly won the first and fourth and Diaz the third. In all likelihood Diaz won the fifth due to pressure and the takedown at the end sealing it, so it all depends on the second.

In that round McGregor dominated for 3 and a half minutes and put him on his back twice before gassing a bit and Diaz was able to come back and put a lot of pressure on. McGregor was able to soak up the pressure and a lot of Diaz's shots were wild and blocked. So for me, I think it as "clear" a 3-2 as can be.

All three judges scored it 3-2, except one gave Diaz the third 10-8, which I disagree with. If you were to give him a 10-8 there you'd have to say McGregor deserved a 10-8 in the first.

Vast majority of media scored it 48-47, some called it a draw and I think I saw one giving it to Diaz. You really have to stretch for the draw but there's no way Diaz won.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 21, 2016, 01:57:51 PM
Thought the knockdowns were enough for McGregor to get it I thought.

Diaz and McGregor are both hard as f**king nails I wonder how long McGregor fought with a broken foot I couldn't see an obvious incident where it happened and he was hobbling. His cardio needs a lot of work he gassed put at least twice and was lucky enough to summon something up to keep fighting.

Very enjoyable scrap!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 21, 2016, 02:03:28 PM
Quote from: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 01:55:03 PM
I don't think it could have been a Diaz win. At a stretch a draw. McGregor clearly won the first and fourth and Diaz the third. In all likelihood Diaz won the fifth due to pressure and the takedown at the end sealing it, so it all depends on the second.

In that round McGregor dominated for 3 and a half minutes and put him on his back twice before gassing a bit and Diaz was able to come back and put a lot of pressure on. McGregor was able to soak up the pressure and a lot of Diaz's shots were wild and blocked. So for me, I think it as "clear" a 3-2 as can be.

All three judges scored it 3-2, except one gave Diaz the third 10-8, which I disagree with. If you were to give him a 10-8 there you'd have to say McGregor deserved a 10-8 in the first.

Vast majority of media scored it 48-47, some called it a draw and I think I saw one giving it to Diaz. You really have to stretch for the draw but there's no way Diaz won.
Fair enough.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on August 22, 2016, 07:22:33 AM
I thought it was relatively easy to score

Rounds 1, 2, 4 to McGregor
Rounds 3, 5 to Diaz

Rounds 1 and 3 very convincing. The others tighter, but still daylight between them in each
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 22, 2016, 09:13:39 AM
As I said, there only contentious one was the second. I thought it was McGregor's but could see why someone might call it a draw the way Diaz came back and had him in trouble.

Additionally, you could see why someone might give Diaz a 10-8 in the third. It's about points scored, not rounds won.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 22, 2016, 11:54:23 AM
Just looking at the judges scorecards there... what constitutes a 10-8 round? I thought McGregor's first round domination and knockdown merited a 10-8.

In the second round he dropped him twice but Diaz did well to have McGregor reeling coming to the end of it so I think the 10-9 was probably fair for it.

Just curious as to the scoring.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 22, 2016, 12:24:15 PM
It's actually undergoing a change in language at the moment. Knockdown is different from in boxing - it doesn't automatically score 10-8. When assessing whether a round should be 10-8 or not, judges are asked to look at dominance, duration and impact/damage. The knockdowns would influence the damage component of that, but Diaz was never really that hurt and was defending immediately. Same as for McGregor in the third - he was blocking and slipping enough shots that, while exhausted, he was never really rocked the way he was in the first fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on August 22, 2016, 03:57:04 PM
202 was some card - not sure if you got a chance to watch all the fights but some great scraps and the UFC now has a lot of options and a lot of fighters futures to consider....

Larkin comes back in to contention and his contract is done...this man beat Robbie Lawler and could well do again... do you let him go or resign him on bigger money and push him?

Cerrone... 155 or 170? I agree with Uncle Dana and say keep him at 170 - we need some more excitement there.. and he has looked excellent at the weight.

McGregor and Diaz. What can I say? McGregor completely surprised me.  I didn't think he had it in him. I was delighted to see him winning but I genuinely thought Diaz would have been too much for him.  He followed the blue print a few of us called out before their first fight and he got the win in a spectacular war.  I've watched the fight 3 times now (once with Joe Rogan turned off) and it was definitely a fair result.  As was said 1 and 4 definitely McGregor, 3 and 5 definitely Diaz.  Two things - Diaz definitely did not score a 10-8 round in the 3rd - he was landing lots of shots but McGreogr was intelligently defending himself.  If the 3rd was a 10-8 then the 1st should be too...  Diaz was lucky to win the 5th - the take down and overall aggression won the round for him.  Now the contentious 2nd round....I couldn't give it to Diaz.  McGregor knocked him down, landed a lot of clean shots then tired in the last 90 seconds where Diaz was the aggressor.  Too little too late. 

Diaz' excuses after the fight were a surprise.  I don't think not being able to train BJJ for a few weeks made a difference. Diaz like most pure BJJ guys is not a wrestler. He struggles to take a fight to the ground but can finish you in a second when it goes there.  He has a trip and a hip throw and that body lock drag down he caught Conor with - but that's really it.  McGregor didn't show great takedown defense - he just fought someone who isn't great at takedowns.  Compare the takedowns of Chad Mendes to Diaz....
Diaz ate a bunch of body shots so I struggle to believe he had a bruised rib and McGregor couldn't hurt him... you can't hide a rib injury...

I'd love to see a 3rd fight.  Diaz of course wants it because he can't get millions for another fight...McGregor would be smart to take it and make some more coin...he's on some bank roll...

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on August 22, 2016, 03:59:40 PM
I see they've announced the official purses for the fights:

Conor McGregor: $3 million (no win bonus)
def. Nate Diaz: $2 million

Anthony Johnson: $270,000 (includes $135,000 win bonus)
def. Glover Teixeira: $65,000

Donald Cerrone: $170,000 (includes $85,000 win bonus)
def. Rick Story: $41,000

Mike Perry: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Hyun Gyu Lim: $18,000

Tim Means: $62,000 (includes $31,000 win bonus)
def. Sabah Homasi: $12,000

Cody Garbrandt: $54,000 (includes $27,000 win bonus)
def. Takeya Mizugaki: $39,000

Raquel Pennington: $46,000 (includes $23,000 win bonus)
def. Elizabeth Phillips: $12,000

Artem Lobov: $26,000 (includes $13,000 win bonus)
def. Chris Avila: $10,000

Cortney Casey: $40,000 (includes $20,000 win bonus)
def. Randa Markos: $14,000

Lorenz Larkin: $78,000 (includes $39,000 win bonus)
def. Neil Magny: $47,000

Colby Covington: $42,000 (includes $21,000 win bonus)
def. Max Griffin: $10,000

Marvin Vettori: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Alberto Uda: $10,000

McGregor and Diaz also got $50k each "fight of the night" bonus.

They both would get Reebok sponsorship money too, estimated to be $250k each.

But the big kicker is the PPV share, which is estimated to be somewhere in the region of $10m each (with McGregor to get $1m more than Diaz).

In Diaz's last fight before the McGregor fights, he picked up $40k!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 22, 2016, 04:24:15 PM
Why does McGregor not get a win bonus??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on August 22, 2016, 04:39:22 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 22, 2016, 04:24:15 PM
Why does McGregor not get a win bonus??
It's a good thing for McGregor rather than a negative.
The deal was $3M for McGregor and $2M for Diaz guaranteed regardless of who wins.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 22, 2016, 04:42:33 PM
Because he's getting a guaranteed 3m! His 1m for the first fight was the biggest in history, then Brock juiced his way to 2.5m for 200 then McGregor topped it.

I agree with Iceman - great card from beginning to end. Far better than 200. Keep an eye on the bantamweight Cody Garbrandt. He's on an absolute tear and could be the man to stop Cruz
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 22, 2016, 04:43:08 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 22, 2016, 04:39:22 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 22, 2016, 04:24:15 PM
Why does McGregor not get a win bonus??
It's a good thing for McGregor rather than a negative.
The deal was $3M for McGregor and $2M for Diaz guaranteed regardless of who wins.

Crazy money . . . wasn't that long ago we heard the famous "60G's BABY!!"

It seems like such an insignificant amount now!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 22, 2016, 04:45:43 PM
As for Cerrone, I thinking he'll come up short once he gets to the real contenders at 170. If he wants a belt, chasing the lightweight one is still his best option.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 22, 2016, 04:45:56 PM
McGregor and Diaz getting a cut of the PPV money as well - they'll both walk away with close to $10million each
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on August 22, 2016, 05:58:07 PM
Quote from: gallsman on August 22, 2016, 04:45:43 PM
As for Cerrone, I thinking he'll come up short once he gets to the real contenders at 170. If he wants a belt, chasing the lightweight one is still his best option.
Larkin and Cerrone would be a good scrap
Lawler and Nick Diaz on same card...
Interesting to see what they do for MSG
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 22, 2016, 06:23:42 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/DylansFreshTake/status/767763301962883072?p=v Did Brock Lesnar think he was fighting at UFC PPV instead of WWE summerslam last night? His opponent Orton needed 10 staples in his head after the match.



Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on August 22, 2016, 06:37:32 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 22, 2016, 06:23:42 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/DylansFreshTake/status/767763301962883072?p=v Did Brock Lesnar think he was fighting at UFC PPV instead of WWE summerslam last night? His opponent Orton needed 10 staples in his head after the match.

That's nothing in pro wrestling.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on August 22, 2016, 08:41:53 PM
Quote from: gallsman link=topic=6638.msg1618774#msg161?8774 date=1471880743
As for Cerrone, I thinking he'll come up short once he gets to the real contenders at 170. If he wants a belt, chasing the lightweight one is still his best option.

Thought Cerrone finish was unreal...

You think he's not got enough at 170 for the main men GM?

Don't know enough about it to be honest.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 22, 2016, 08:53:39 PM
Story was 9th ranked and that was a generous ranking. Woodley, Lawler, Wonderboy (the best striker in the sport), Macdonald and GSP when he comes back would absolutely maul him in my opinion. Dos Anjos knocked him out in a minute last December.

Cerrone against Gunnar would be interesting.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on August 22, 2016, 08:58:06 PM
Quote from: gallsman on August 22, 2016, 08:53:39 PM
Story was 9th ranked and that was a generous ranking. Woodley, Lawler, Wonderboy (the best striker in the sport), Macdonald and GSP when he comes back would absolutely maul him in my opinion. Dos Anjos knocked him out in a minute last December.

Cerrone against Gunnar would be interesting.
I think they'll keep in there with strikers - Cerrone against Matt Brown would be a money fight - thought they could angle a Gunnar Nelson fight to set up a McGregor fight at 155?
Tim Means would be a good scap for him.
The UFC definitely have a lot of options we'd all look forward to....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on August 23, 2016, 08:25:39 AM
McGregor vs Diaz 2 was the best fight in the last 20 years - 'The Herd'  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djig-GRmS9I
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on August 23, 2016, 02:27:13 PM
Attendance at McGregor v Diaz II was 15,500. Not sure what the capacity is, but UFC200 had over 18,000 at the same venue, so it was not a sell-out. Obviously its TV where they make their money, but I was a bit surprised at the number. We moan when a Leinster semi final only attracts 15,000 :)

EDIT: Gate receipts for the McGregor fight was over $7.6m - so average ticket price of almost $500...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on September 01, 2016, 01:10:56 AM
http://www.punditarena.com/mmaufc/jmurphy/rumours-insane-conor-mcgregor-fight-announced/

How would this go down if true?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 01, 2016, 06:17:01 AM
a) huge as GSP is a legitimate GOAT contender.

b) badly as GSP would maul him. Well, what GSP used to be would maul him. Simply too big, although believe GSP has said he can make 155. Difficult to see though.

c) anyone who isn't a McGregor fanboy will think it's a joke if his next fight isn't a title defence against Aldo or a lightweight shot against Alvarez. He can't be champ and then have three non title fights outside the weight class. Makes a mockery of it.

d) GSP return against the biggest star they have in MSG for the first time would sell an absolute mountain of PPVs, especially if they really stack the rest of the card.

e) GSP would need a USADA exemption to fight in November as he is only recently back in the testing pool and the four month lead in time wouldn't be over before 205. After the Lesnar debacle, they might not be too keen on the aul exemptions.

f) UFC 206 in December is in Toronto and would be perfectly timed and located for a GSP comeback, but then wouldn't have the MSG, first time in New York aspect.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 11, 2016, 09:10:06 AM
Your man CM Punk bate then! Happened to see a video of him sparing and he looked completely shite! Money making farce.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 11, 2016, 01:47:44 PM
I hope someone made some money off that fight because it was just as much of a farce as everybody expected.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 27, 2016, 08:00:35 AM
McGregor against Eddie Alvarez for the Lightweight title confirmed for UFC 205 in Madison Square Garden on November 12th. One of three title fights in the night. One of them is a women's strawweight fight between two Poles, so with that and McGregor, the atmosphere should be incredible.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on September 28, 2016, 02:35:06 AM
Aldo has asked for his release from the UFC citing their inability to fix a rematch with McGregor for the 145 belt

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/9/27/13083694/jose-aldo-requests-his-release-from-the-ufc
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: dec on September 28, 2016, 02:48:02 AM
There was a big line today outside MSG today just for the UFC 205 press conference.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on September 28, 2016, 07:24:07 AM
So Iceman what's your take on McGregor's chances against Alvarez?

Press conf was good craic
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GJL on September 28, 2016, 09:16:41 AM
Anyone know of any package deals from Ireland? Flights/tickets/hotel. Thanks.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on September 28, 2016, 03:59:19 PM
Quote from: GJL on September 28, 2016, 09:16:41 AM
Anyone know of any package deals from Ireland? Flights/tickets/hotel. Thanks.
You'll get some hosing with that!

The official ticket prices are:
$100
$250
$450
$600
$800
$1000
$1500

so an agent would go to town would add a nice premium to those.

People who are with FightClub - costs $88 a year - got early access to tickets today. The cheapest option most people were given were the $600 tickets. Maybe they're holding some back for the public sale on Friday. There's a "newsletter sale" tomorrow for people who subscribe to the MMA Newsletter I think - (I've heard that usually you should be able to google that tomorrow and find out what the special code is)

Apparently flights still were available for under €500 this morning
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on September 28, 2016, 04:19:41 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 28, 2016, 07:24:07 AM
So Iceman what's your take on McGregor's chances against Alvarez?

Press conf was good craic

7 weeks to train for a title fight.... is his foot ok? Is he in shape? There's a lot of questions hanging over McGregor right now.  It would appear that 2 weight world champion is his destiny but we'll see in November....
On paper Eddie is a fantastic grappler - he overwhelmed Pettis and nullified his striking.  Cowboy schooled him but had a big reach advantage and I think Cowboy is a much better grappler than CMG.
CMG can be taken down by wrestlers.  Diaz isn't a wrestler and like most BJJ guys he struggled to bring the fight to the ground (different story once they are there). Conor doesn't have the same length advantage that he had with Mendes (helps with sweeps and reversals) and definitely does not have the same weight advantage he had.
This fight will be a fight of "if's"

If CMG cracks him on the feet its over
If Eddie can get him to the ground and keep him there its over

Who is successful first?
McGregor if he is healthy and mobile should stop him early...if the fight goes on it's Eddies by grind...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GJL on September 28, 2016, 08:08:08 PM
Quote from: Hound on September 28, 2016, 03:59:19 PM
Quote from: GJL on September 28, 2016, 09:16:41 AM
Anyone know of any package deals from Ireland? Flights/tickets/hotel. Thanks.
You'll get some hosing with that!

The official ticket prices are:
$100
$250
$450
$600
$800
$1000
$1500

so an agent would go to town would add a nice premium to those.

People who are with FightClub - costs $88 a year - got early access to tickets today. The cheapest option most people were given were the $600 tickets. Maybe they're holding some back for the public sale on Friday. There's a "newsletter sale" tomorrow for people who subscribe to the MMA Newsletter I think - (I've heard that usually you should be able to google that tomorrow and find out what the special code is)

Apparently flights still were available for under €500 this morning

Can get a flight and hotel deal form Belfast for £629pp. 3 nights in Westin Grand central Hotel. Good enough value but having no joy with tickets. :-\  Will it def sell out? Seems too much of a gamble to head out there without securing tickets first but I don't want to pay $1000 each either....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 28, 2016, 09:32:30 PM
If you want tickets you'll need to sign up for Fight Club. No chance of grabbing one on general same I think.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GJL on September 28, 2016, 09:45:28 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 28, 2016, 09:32:30 PM
If you want tickets you'll need to sign up for Fight Club. No chance of grabbing one on general same I think.

I signed up to ufc fightclub today and got into the pre sale. Only very expensive tickets available at the start. None of the cheaper options. Now nothing available. Any ideas?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 28, 2016, 10:02:23 PM
McGregor is great value in his press conferences, he loves that pantomime villain role. All complete bullshit of course and part of selling the fight but entertaining all the same.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 28, 2016, 11:18:02 PM
Quote from: GJL on September 28, 2016, 09:45:28 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 28, 2016, 09:32:30 PM
If you want tickets you'll need to sign up for Fight Club. No chance of grabbing one on general same I think.

I signed up to ufc fightclub today and got into the pre sale. Only very expensive tickets available at the start. None of the cheaper options. Now nothing available. Any ideas?

Get your finger ready to hit refresh on the general sale on as many devices as possible!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GJL on September 29, 2016, 12:37:21 AM
Quote from: gallsman on September 28, 2016, 11:18:02 PM
Quote from: GJL on September 28, 2016, 09:45:28 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 28, 2016, 09:32:30 PM
If you want tickets you'll need to sign up for Fight Club. No chance of grabbing one on general same I think.

I signed up to ufc fightclub today and got into the pre sale. Only very expensive tickets available at the start. None of the cheaper options. Now nothing available. Any ideas?

Get your finger ready to hit refresh on the general sale on as many devices as possible!

I doubt that will have to be my plan. Thanks.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on September 29, 2016, 05:47:56 PM
I got a code from a NY Knicks season ticket holder for special access to tickets today at 10am. Was checking on and off for a couple of hours. Only tickets I was offered were 1000 and 1500!

General sale starts tomorrow I believe, so there may be cheaper tickets then, but not holding my breath!

The cheapest ticket anyone I know got through Fight Club on Wednesday was 600.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 29, 2016, 06:51:30 PM
There will be cheaper tickets available, but the chances of getting one are remote.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on November 08, 2016, 07:11:55 PM
UFC 205: Fighting For History - Full Episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxwE4fPLU3c
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 10, 2016, 10:24:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hkfp6lqdrI

McGregor a bit agitated?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on November 10, 2016, 11:35:27 PM
he was wired on espresso or cocaine lol!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 11, 2016, 12:03:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L0f477qDrg
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 11, 2016, 04:51:50 PM
Both safely weighed in.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on November 11, 2016, 05:38:41 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 11, 2016, 04:51:50 PM
Both safely weighed in.


Normally I would back any Irish athlete to the hilt, in Mcgregors case I make an exception, he is trying to boot sales etc but he is an arrogant winker when he does it, I hope your man kicks the poppy right out of him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Far East on November 11, 2016, 06:47:16 PM
Quote from: stew on November 11, 2016, 05:38:41 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 11, 2016, 04:51:50 PM
Both safely weighed in.


Normally I would back any Irish athlete to the hilt, in Mcgregors case I make an exception, he is trying to boot sales etc but he is an arrogant winker when he does it, I hope your man kicks the poppy right out of him.

I'm sure he'll be devastated at the loss of support from such a highly regarded plastic Paddy.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on November 11, 2016, 06:56:17 PM
What time will this be on our time?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Far East on November 11, 2016, 07:11:31 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 11, 2016, 06:56:17 PM
What time will this be on our time?

main event is scheduled for midday here in Japan so it'll be 4/5am at home
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on November 11, 2016, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 11, 2016, 06:56:17 PM
What time will this be on our time?

Aye scheduled for around 9pm here so probably about 5am back home.

Dunging myself about this but can't wait all the same
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 11, 2016, 10:33:31 PM
Quote from: stew on November 11, 2016, 05:38:41 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 11, 2016, 04:51:50 PM
Both safely weighed in.


Normally I would back any Irish athlete to the hilt, in Mcgregors case I make an exception, he is trying to boot sales etc but he is an arrogant winker when he does it, I hope your man kicks the poppy right out of him.

In a real turn up for the books, I agree with you! Or at least I used to. I genuinely think he's a good, decent lad that simply plays to the crowd. The American "bro" culture laps all his shite up so he just keeps going back to it. I think it makes him a little less entertaining in press conferences and the like because so many of his lines these days are rehearsed.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on November 11, 2016, 10:38:33 PM
Quote from: Far East on November 11, 2016, 06:47:16 PM
Quote from: stew on November 11, 2016, 05:38:41 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 11, 2016, 04:51:50 PM
Both safely weighed in.


Normally I would back any Irish athlete to the hilt, in Mcgregors case I make an exception, he is trying to boot sales etc but he is an arrogant winker when he does it, I hope your man kicks the poppy right out of him.

I'm sure he'll be devastated at the loss of support from such a highly regarded plastic Paddy.

I was speaking on behalf if myself, show me one place on here where I was a 'plastic paddy'

Coward, another coward hiding who he is behind a new moniker.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on November 12, 2016, 10:24:20 PM
Quote from: stew on November 11, 2016, 05:38:41 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 11, 2016, 04:51:50 PM
Both safely weighed in.


Normally I would back any Irish athlete to the hilt, in Mcgregors case I make an exception, he is trying to boot sales etc but he is an arrogant winker when he does it, I hope your man kicks the poppy right out of him.

It's all a show to get in his opponents head and it works...after the fight he is generally sincere enough plus more often than not he backs his mouth up with his fists.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on November 12, 2016, 11:46:59 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on November 12, 2016, 10:24:20 PM
Quote from: stew on November 11, 2016, 05:38:41 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 11, 2016, 04:51:50 PM
Both safely weighed in.


Normally I would back any Irish athlete to the hilt, in Mcgregors case I make an exception, he is trying to boot sales etc but he is an arrogant winker when he does it, I hope your man kicks the poppy right out of him.

It's all a show to get in his opponents head and it works...after the fight he is generally sincere enough plus more often than not he backs his mouth up with his fists.

No its all a show to raise as much publicity as possible, by increasing his media profile, and the fights media profile, sponsors in turn want to latch onto that for exposure so it means they will pay more money to him and the UFC.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on November 13, 2016, 12:07:11 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on November 12, 2016, 11:46:59 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on November 12, 2016, 10:24:20 PM
Quote from: stew on November 11, 2016, 05:38:41 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 11, 2016, 04:51:50 PM
Both safely weighed in.


Normally I would back any Irish athlete to the hilt, in Mcgregors case I make an exception, he is trying to boot sales etc but he is an arrogant winker when he does it, I hope your man kicks the poppy right out of him.

It's all a show to get in his opponents head and it works...after the fight he is generally sincere enough plus more often than not he backs his mouth up with his fists.

No its all a show to raise as much publicity as possible, by increasing his media profile, and the fights media profile, sponsors in turn want to latch onto that for exposure so it means they will pay more money to him and the UFC.

Yeah that too, hardly a sin...we'd be all at it (looking more money) if we where in the same boat or any other boat for that matter
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: thejuice on November 13, 2016, 01:25:44 AM
He's the one who is risking getting his skull crushed in so he might as well milk it for all its worth while he can. I'm sure the UFC are quite happy for him to do it too. I understand Brock Lesner is still the biggest draw in UFC because he brings over WWE fans, but he's in and out whenever it suits him so they need their own marketable commodity. People shouldn't pay too much heed to all the posturing really, it's business and its not going to do him any favours being a church mouse.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: HiMucker on November 13, 2016, 02:31:00 AM
Jesus the Russian is some operator!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 13, 2016, 02:38:57 AM
Absolute clinic from Khabib. His transitions on the ground are unreal. Johnson nearly had him in a guillotine (by luck in fairness) and two seconds later was in a mounted crucifix. Great heel promo from him too.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 13, 2016, 03:06:39 AM
Great win for Frankie after getting rocked badly. As tough as they come.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: HiMucker on November 13, 2016, 03:20:19 AM
BTW trying the yamazaki here!  Hopefully it keeps.me up for the fight!  Good gear
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 13, 2016, 03:28:28 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on November 13, 2016, 03:20:19 AM
BTW trying the yamazaki here!  Hopefully it keeps.me up for the fight!  Good gear

Lovely stuff, fancy for this hour of the morning! Coffee earlier, mi wadi and tea for me!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: HiMucker on November 13, 2016, 03:46:01 AM
Seafoid told me it was the end of the world so I cracked it open
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on November 13, 2016, 04:09:55 AM
Reckon Mcgregor will be in for a royal beating if he goes up against Khabib?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 13, 2016, 04:19:57 AM
Quote from: Medic on November 13, 2016, 04:09:55 AM
Reckon Mcgregor will be in for a royal beating if he goes up against Khabib?

Johnson hurt him before the first takedown so if McGregor's power truly carries to 155 the knockout is there but once Khabib gets you down, if you don't get stopped or submitted, you're losing the round.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: HiMucker on November 13, 2016, 04:21:43 AM
Have to say thought the same.  But thought that against aldo.  You have to give him credit he always seems one step ahead of the game.  Mark of a truly great fighter.   Fair play to him!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 13, 2016, 04:23:30 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on November 13, 2016, 04:21:43 AM
Have to say thought the same.  But thought that against aldo.  You have to give him credit he always seems one step ahead of the game.  Mark of a truly great fighter.   Fair play to him!

Oh aye, McGregor's standup is far superior but if khabib gets you down you're not getting back up
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on November 13, 2016, 04:24:49 AM
Yeol Romero can't be "natural" right? Bisping can't wait to fight him lol

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxHWoXfUcAAOxnc.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 13, 2016, 04:28:11 AM
This is going to be straight up murder from JJ.

Will never believe Romero is natural. Look at his traps ffs.

Bisping can very much wait to fight him as Romero would be a huge favourite.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 13, 2016, 05:04:16 AM
Disappointing fight but JJ a clear winner.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on November 13, 2016, 05:25:36 AM
Is it Creed 2, or Karate Kid 9 next?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on November 13, 2016, 05:28:27 AM
Old Bruce Buffers suit man is boss as
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 13, 2016, 05:51:16 AM
Incredible stuff from Wonderboy.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on November 13, 2016, 05:55:59 AM
The line between losing a boring round and scoring a huge KO is SO thin!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on November 13, 2016, 05:59:01 AM
Will be interesting to see how the judges score that
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 13, 2016, 06:04:38 AM
Bruce Buffer and his split decision  ::)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 13, 2016, 06:06:33 AM
I had to google to see if majority draw rules were different. Mental.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on November 13, 2016, 06:09:33 AM
Wonderboy is the type of lad you wouldn't mind your daughter dating

ETA: TIME FOR MYSTIC MAC TO DO HIS THING!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on November 13, 2016, 06:28:28 AM
Mystic Mac was wrong this time but still 10-8
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on November 13, 2016, 06:32:35 AM
Santa is REAL haha
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 13, 2016, 06:32:51 AM
Cakewalk for McGregor.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: tonto1888 on November 13, 2016, 06:37:37 AM
Bloody impressive that
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on November 13, 2016, 06:39:23 AM
"I've ridiculed everybody on the roster, I'd like like to take this time to apologise.... to absolutely no one" Conor Mcgregor UFC205

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxH17mhXcAAWPHO.jpg)


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxH17oLXAAAZdX3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Far East on November 13, 2016, 06:43:13 AM
Love him or hate him, we've never seen the likes of him.  His ability and confidence is dumbfounding! Seriously impressive
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: heganboy on November 13, 2016, 06:44:00 AM
those 4 punches to put him down and the first two when he hit the ground were clinical. unreal accuracy
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 13, 2016, 06:47:15 AM
Easiest money both men will ever make. Yer fella hardly swung.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on November 13, 2016, 06:51:40 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 13, 2016, 06:32:51 AM
Cakewalk for McGregor.

Only Nate and Khabib could actually go toe to toe with the maddest and baddest man in all of UFC history

Quote from: heganboy on November 13, 2016, 06:44:00 AM
those 4 punches to put him down and the first two when he hit the ground were clinical. unreal accuracy

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvWHAzNVMAA0eUp.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DrinkingHarp on November 13, 2016, 06:53:35 AM
That left hand is lethal!!!

"Where is my fookin second belt?"......Classic
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 13, 2016, 06:55:50 AM
An absolute masterclass. Eddie was awful.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on November 13, 2016, 07:50:19 AM
What do people of Nurmagomedov who won impressively on the undercard and said

"I want to stay humble but I have to talk because your guys talk too much. I understand how crazy powerful the UFC PR machine is," he said
"Your guy [Conor McGregor], at the beginning of the year tapped like a chicken [to Nate Diaz]. At the end of the year, he fights for the title - crazy. You know, guys, this is true. This is not trash-talking.

"Ireland only has six million people, Russia has 150 million. I want to fight your chicken! This is number one easy fight in the lightweight division."


There's also a youtube clip of an altercation between McGregor and him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTNw7FEu3G0

You'd suspect that the altercation was staged which would mean that McGregor sees him as being one of his next fights.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 13, 2016, 09:53:14 AM
Khabib has a chip on his about not fighting for the title. He was undisputed number one contender before he got hurt and absolutely savaged RDA, suplexing him all over the place. He came back in April after two years of injuries and has been utterly dominant in every fight he's had. He's had to adjust to this new reality where McGregor picks his fights. Either he or Tony Ferguson are legit number one contenders in the division but Khabib probably figures (probably correctly) that a McGregor win this morning would see him passed over again in favour of Diaz, a fighter ranked below him. He's simply trying to talk his way into being next in line.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 13, 2016, 09:55:14 AM
Quote from: Medic on November 13, 2016, 06:51:40 AM
Only Nate and Khabib could actually go toe to toe with the maddest and baddest man in all of UFC history

Please, that level of sycophancy is just embarrassing.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: theticklemister on November 13, 2016, 09:58:26 AM
Ironic that the man enters to Foggy Dew and wears a poppy
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 13, 2016, 10:54:07 AM
Imagine spending a fortune flying to New York for that dung. I suppose you could say the same about boxing too.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 13, 2016, 11:29:01 AM
I'm not a massive UFC fan but I wouldnt say that was dung. There was a lot of cracking fights on that card and would have been a great event to go to.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on November 13, 2016, 11:45:17 AM
Making a case as the GoAT now. He's brought MMA to another level.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on November 13, 2016, 11:51:53 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 13, 2016, 10:54:07 AM
Imagine spending a fortune flying to New York for that dung. I suppose you could say the same about boxing too.

But you're still in New York!  Every cloud Tony. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on November 14, 2016, 09:08:02 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 13, 2016, 11:29:01 AM
I'm not a massive UFC fan but I wouldnt say that was dung. There was a lot of cracking fights on that card and would have been a great event to go to.
I doubt there's ever been a better card of fights in any combat sports event.

So many fights can go either way. And then McGregor puts on a pure masterclass to destroy a world champion. Fantastic.

He's a clear Irish sportsman of the year, but doubt he'll pick up any awards, given our incompetent Irish media.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 09:10:31 AM
Quote from: Syferus on November 13, 2016, 11:45:17 AM
Making a case as the GoAT now. He's brought MMA to another level.

What's Greatest of All Time in UFC? How long is MMA around? (Not being smart, just curious). I certainly hadn't heard of it until maybe 6 or 7 years ago, I think I saw it on Eurosport or something and couldn't believe it was allowed!!

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on November 14, 2016, 09:19:49 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 09:10:31 AM
Quote from: Syferus on November 13, 2016, 11:45:17 AM
Making a case as the GoAT now. He's brought MMA to another level.

What's Greatest of All Time in UFC? How long is MMA around? (Not being smart, just curious). I certainly hadn't heard of it until maybe 6 or 7 years ago, I think I saw it on Eurosport or something and couldn't believe it was allowed!!

UFC has been around since 1993.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 09:20:45 AM
Presumably MMA has been around longer than that?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: tiempo on November 14, 2016, 09:52:29 AM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on November 14, 2016, 09:19:49 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 09:10:31 AM
Quote from: Syferus on November 13, 2016, 11:45:17 AM
Making a case as the GoAT now. He's brought MMA to another level.

What's Greatest of All Time in UFC? How long is MMA around? (Not being smart, just curious). I certainly hadn't heard of it until maybe 6 or 7 years ago, I think I saw it on Eurosport or something and couldn't believe it was allowed!!

UFC has been around since 1993.

There was no such thing as sport anywhere on earth until 2003.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: tonto1888 on November 14, 2016, 09:52:57 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 09:20:45 AM
Presumably MMA has been around longer than that?

in various guises
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 14, 2016, 11:45:09 AM
The Unified rules came into effect in about 2001. Before that things had been moving away from the "no holds barred" approach pretty much since UFC 1.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on November 14, 2016, 12:38:08 PM
When it started in the 90s, "there are no rules" was its main selling point!

The only actual rules were no eye gouging and no biting. So groin strikes, head-butting and hair pulling were all fair game! And refereeing standards were a lot different. There were no weight classes, and one of the main early stars (Royce Gracie) was a relatively little lad who used Brazilian ju-jitsu to beat much bigger opponents. 

Its completely different now and no doubt it is a proper and legitimate combat sport (which IMO it certainly wasn't in the early days)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: square_ball on November 14, 2016, 01:09:44 PM
All the talk about McGregor being the first to have two belts but has anyone ever had a fight to get the 2nd belt? I don't know a lot about the sport so just wondering is there a history of fighters going for the 2nd belt?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on November 14, 2016, 01:26:51 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 09:10:31 AM
Quote from: Syferus on November 13, 2016, 11:45:17 AM
Making a case as the GoAT now. He's brought MMA to another level.

What's Greatest of All Time in UFC? How long is MMA around? (Not being smart, just curious). I certainly hadn't heard of it until maybe 6 or 7 years ago, I think I saw it on Eurosport or something and couldn't believe it was allowed!!

I think the first time I saw it was when some extra on Friends (Monica's boyfriend?) was regularly pulverised in a cage.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 14, 2016, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 09:10:31 AM
Quote from: Syferus on November 13, 2016, 11:45:17 AM
Making a case as the GoAT now. He's brought MMA to another level.

What's Greatest of All Time in UFC? How long is MMA around? (Not being smart, just curious). I certainly hadn't heard of it until maybe 6 or 7 years ago, I think I saw it on Eurosport or something and couldn't believe it was allowed!!
A good few lads I know (and ALL of them are EXPERTS) seems to think it started when McGregor started in UFC.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 14, 2016, 02:03:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 14, 2016, 01:09:44 PM
All the talk about McGregor being the first to have two belts but has anyone ever had a fight to get the 2nd belt? I don't know a lot about the sport so just wondering is there a history of fighters going for the 2nd belt?

McGregor is not the first to have two belts - he's the first to hold two at the same time. Both Randy Couture (light heavy and heavy) and BJ Penn (light and welter) have been champion in two divisions. Penn (as lightweight champion) later challenged GSP (welterweight champion) and lost.

Quote from: muppet on November 14, 2016, 01:26:51 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 09:10:31 AM
Quote from: Syferus on November 13, 2016, 11:45:17 AM
Making a case as the GoAT now. He's brought MMA to another level.

What's Greatest of All Time in UFC? How long is MMA around? (Not being smart, just curious). I certainly hadn't heard of it until maybe 6 or 7 years ago, I think I saw it on Eurosport or something and couldn't believe it was allowed!!

I think the first time I saw it was when some extra on Friends (Monica's boyfriend?) was regularly pulverised in a cage.

That extra was Jon Favreau - Iron Man director!

Quote from: Hound on November 14, 2016, 12:38:08 PM
one of the main early stars (Royce Gracie) was a relatively little lad who used Brazilian ju-jitsu and lots of steroids, like everyone else involved, to beat much bigger opponents.

FYP
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on November 14, 2016, 02:30:07 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 14, 2016, 02:03:50 PM

FYP
Yeah, it's only in the last couple of years that they've got a handle on the drugs.
Now they're with USADA so as good as any other sport.

That timing has probably helped McGregor too. Alvarez beat Dos Anjos to win the world title. A man who used to look unbeatable, but like a lot of the Brazilians has looked a shadow of his former self since proper drug testing has come in and Alvarez nailed him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: square_ball on November 14, 2016, 03:38:24 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 14, 2016, 02:03:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 14, 2016, 01:09:44 PM
All the talk about McGregor being the first to have two belts but has anyone ever had a fight to get the 2nd belt? I don't know a lot about the sport so just wondering is there a history of fighters going for the 2nd belt?

McGregor is not the first to have two belts - he's the first to hold two at the same time. Both Randy Couture (light heavy and heavy) and BJ Penn (light and welter) have been champion in two divisions. Penn (as lightweight champion) later challenged GSP (welterweight champion) and lost.


That's actually what I meant has any one else had the opportunity to win two belts simultaneously? Is this penn guy the only one that had the chance?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Fuzzman on November 14, 2016, 03:49:19 PM
I enjoy watching McGregor's fights and am glad he won but I can't help but wonder are these fights for real or are they using Conor to make money which wasn't there before.
I expected this to be a decent fight as I did with Aldo but Avarez put up a very poor show and I can't help but wonder was he just paid off to lose to keep the McGregor money making machine going.
I'm far from an expert in this sport so just wondering what others out there thought?

The amount of money these previous champions are making from the one fight against McGregor far outweighs what they earned before that.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Declan on November 14, 2016, 03:57:07 PM
QuoteI enjoy watching McGregor's fights and am glad he won but I can't help but wonder are these fights for real or are they using Conor to make money which wasn't there before.
I expected this to be a decent fight as I did with Aldo but Avarez put up a very poor show and I can't help but wonder was he just paid off to lose to keep the McGregor money making machine going.
I'm far from an expert in this sport so just wondering what others out there thought?

The amount of money these previous champions are making from the one fight against McGregor far outweighs what they earned before that.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/conor-mcgregor-remains-most-valuable-asset-in-ufc-s-short-history-1.2866472 (http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/conor-mcgregor-remains-most-valuable-asset-in-ufc-s-short-history-1.2866472)

Dave Hannigan in today's Times has an article that touches on the Fuzzman
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on November 14, 2016, 05:15:34 PM
great card - was always going to be.  Uncle Dana knew he had to put on a show and the fighters delivered.
Frankie needs to really consider his future, his health and his quality of life.  People I know in Tom's River, NJ, say he is already showing some signs of this - speech is changing, memory slipping... he can't continue to take shots like that...
Feel bad for Weidman he looked good against Romero - that was an awful injury to sustain.  Romero...what a cheat, stalling between rounds...and he cant be natural...no way


McGregor was all class.  He started very very slow and Eddie played into it didn't know what to do with him and waited to see what was coming and he couldn't see anything....
McGregor looked in great shape, hard to tell what his cardio was like after such a short amount of time but he was ready for the wrestling.  Conor said Eddie shouldn't have been in there with him and he was right. Eddie got destroyed by Cowboy, he out-wrestled Pettis on a very bad night and he beat RDA post USADA (who hasn't looked the same since).  Eddie changed camps, wasn't ready for the striking and got caught too many times.  CMG a deserving two weight world champion!

He will have to vacate the 145 belt.  If he's taking off for a bit he will have to drop it - there's no money down there for him except Aldo and he has everything to lose in that fight.
155 against Diaz is the fight to make next. Superbowl weekend in Houston.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: yellowcard on November 14, 2016, 05:19:10 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on November 14, 2016, 03:49:19 PM
I enjoy watching McGregor's fights and am glad he won but I can't help but wonder are these fights for real or are they using Conor to make money which wasn't there before.
I expected this to be a decent fight as I did with Aldo but Avarez put up a very poor show and I can't help but wonder was he just paid off to lose to keep the McGregor money making machine going.
I'm far from an expert in this sport so just wondering what others out there thought?

The amount of money these previous champions are making from the one fight against McGregor far outweighs what they earned before that.

I've long thought about this to be honest and I too sometimes wonder how genuine it actually is.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 14, 2016, 05:46:13 PM
Quote from: Hound on November 14, 2016, 02:30:07 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 14, 2016, 02:03:50 PM

FYP
Yeah, it's only in the last couple of years that they've got a handle on the drugs.
Now they're with USADA so as good as any other sport.

That timing has probably helped McGregor too. Alvarez beat Dos Anjos to win the world title. A man who used to look unbeatable, but like a lot of the Brazilians has looked a shadow of his former self since proper drug testing has come in and Alvarez nailed him.

The USADA stuff is a bit of a smokescreen. USADA are corrupt as f**k. Umpteen "retrospective" TUEs given to Mayweather. MMA is still dirty a hell. As Iceman said, look at Yoel Romero's physique. The six pack on him after rehydrating was ridiculous.

Quote from: square_ball on November 14, 2016, 03:38:24 PM
That's actually what I meant has any one else had the opportunity to win two belts simultaneously? Is this penn guy the only one that had the chance?

As far as I can recall that's the only other time it's happened.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Fuzzman on November 14, 2016, 05:57:38 PM
I've not watched Alvarez before but what I read about him I expected a much better battle but what I saw was very disappointing. Eddie hardly threw anything worthwhile at him and when he did have him down on the canvas I expected that to get a lot more interesting.
CmcG does seem very accurate with his punches but did Alvarez not leave himself very open to them? Like I've said I only watched a few of McGregors fights so I don't know a lot about this sport but personally I'd love to see a rematch between him and Aldo who looks like he has not been treated that fairly with the smash and grab of his title and then McGregor started messing around with Diaz which was entertaining but looked like a ploy to avoid defending his own belt.

Now McGregor has his two belts but is calling out to his UFC bosses that he helped create this show and he wants his cut of the business now. Money talks in these types of sports and keeping their cash cow on side means a lot more success for this business and the fighters who can retire after one big pay day. I am not dismissing McGregor and what he has done to get this far but I just fear money has taken over the real business of fighting and that's why we've saw another quick finish with neither fighter looking too bad.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 14, 2016, 06:07:27 PM
Alvarez is a solid, tough fighter but a bit of a jack of all trades and a master of none. He's better than me showed on Saturday but he's always had a tendency to get hit and get hurt. Big question was how McGregor's power would fare against him after it didn't carry against Diaz.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on November 14, 2016, 06:49:02 PM
lads the fight was 100% real. The UFC and McGregor stand to lose so much more if the pull crap like that.
Alvarez isnt Diaz.  Doaz is rarely stopped (once my a head kick and he wasn't even out).  I don't know who at 145 or 155 apart from Diaz would not get KO'ed if hit clean by CMG.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bridgegael on November 14, 2016, 07:02:07 PM
Who is mcgregors hardest fight at 155?  The Russian guy?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on November 14, 2016, 07:14:20 PM
khabib but he showed he can be rocked...and I wouldn't class Johnson as a power puncher..
anyone with great wrestling/ground game and a granite chin - I say Diaz in his true weight class of 155
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 14, 2016, 07:17:58 PM
Ferguson would give him plenty to think about as well, although he can be hit quite easily too. McGregor would lose his size advantage advantage against him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on November 14, 2016, 07:43:40 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 14, 2016, 07:17:58 PM
Ferguson would give him plenty to think about as well, although he can be hit quite easily too. McGregor would lose his size advantage advantage against him.
He is very talented and looked great against Barboza - really gutted that fight out and then looked great against RDA who is no longer on PEDs and it shows.
I'd like to see Fergusson vrs Khabib for the No1 contender spot while Diaz and McGregor fight for the belt on same card...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 14, 2016, 08:32:36 PM
I think that's the most likely prospect, unfair as it would be on the other two.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 14, 2016, 09:46:39 PM
Its ok having 2 belts, but he hasn't defended the 145 one as he cant make the limit anymore, As for fighting Diaz, there are a few men a couple of notches above Diaz, why not fight them?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 14, 2016, 09:50:58 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 14, 2016, 09:46:39 PM
Its ok having 2 belts, but he hasn't defended the 145 one as he cant make the limit anymore, As for fighting Diaz, there are a few men a couple of notches above Diaz, why not fight them?

I imagine the 145 belt will be going fairly soon. Shit or get off the pot?

Why fight Diaz ahead of Khabib or Ferguson? Money, money and more money.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 14, 2016, 11:40:38 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on November 14, 2016, 07:43:40 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 14, 2016, 07:17:58 PM
Ferguson would give him plenty to think about as well, although he can be hit quite easily too. McGregor would lose his size advantage advantage against him.
He is very talented and looked great against Barboza - really gutted that fight out and then looked great against RDA who is no longer on PEDs and it shows.
I'd like to see Fergusson vrs Khabib for the No1 contender spot while Diaz and McGregor fight for the belt on same card...

RDA was in the USADA pool for the Pettis fight where he won the title and he demolished Cowboy in about a minute. He was well on the way against Alvarez until getting caught with a haymaker. Don't think he's any more or less suspicious then anyone else in the company. Except Romero (and lesnar).
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on November 15, 2016, 09:10:55 AM
Quote from: Declan on November 14, 2016, 03:57:07 PM
QuoteI enjoy watching McGregor's fights and am glad he won but I can't help but wonder are these fights for real or are they using Conor to make money which wasn't there before.
I expected this to be a decent fight as I did with Aldo but Avarez put up a very poor show and I can't help but wonder was he just paid off to lose to keep the McGregor money making machine going.
I'm far from an expert in this sport so just wondering what others out there thought?

The amount of money these previous champions are making from the one fight against McGregor far outweighs what they earned before that.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/conor-mcgregor-remains-most-valuable-asset-in-ufc-s-short-history-1.2866472 (http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/conor-mcgregor-remains-most-valuable-asset-in-ufc-s-short-history-1.2866472)

Dave Hannigan in today's Times has an article that touches on the Fuzzman
That's just our inherent Irish begrudgery.

Like when Ireland beat the All Blacks. Francis was in the studio, and while he went on to heap great praise on the Irish, the very first thing he said was something like "well one thing for sure, that New Zealand team isn't as good as we thought it was".

Alvarez had a huge amount more to gain by beating McGregor. He "only" got $500k as base pay for fighting McGregor, the base pay on a Champions Contract - he would have got the same amount for defending against anyone.  (He also got a share of the PPVs which obviously was greater because of fighting McGregor than fighting anyone else).

But a win against McGregor would have meant a re-match and that would have given him a base of at least $1m, probably $2m. Plus a higher share of the PPVs. Whereas now in his next fight, he'll be lucky to get a base pay of $250k.
So it's utter nonsense to suggest he didn't give his best. His interviews the following day clearly show how gutted he was, and how annoyed at himself he was for not fighting a more clever fight. He was the genuine undisputed lightweight world champion, but got outclassed by the better man.

This is the list of estimated earnings (without PPV points)

QuoteConor McGregor: $3,590,000 ($3,500,000 to show, $50,000 Performance of the Night bonus, $40,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Tyron Woodley: $590,000 ($500,000 to show, $50,000 Fight of the Night bonus, $40,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Eddie Alvarez: $540,000 ($500,000 to show, $40,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Frankie Edgar: $400,000 ($190,000 to show, $190,000 win bonus, $20,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Stephen Thompson: $350,000 ($270,000 to show, $50,000 Fight of the Night bonus, $30,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Chris Weidman: $285,000 ($275,000 to show, $10,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Joanna Jedrzejczyk: $260,000 ($110,000 to show, $110,000 win bonus, $40,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Yoel Romero: $215,000 ($130,000 to show, $30,000 win bonus, $50,000 Performance of the Night bonus, $5,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Jim Miller: $151,000 ($61,000 to show, $61,000 win bonus, $9,000 from Alves for missing weight, $20,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Karolina Kowalkiewicz: $130,000 ($100,000 to show, $30,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Tim Boetsch: $123,000 ($54,000 to show, $54,000 win bonus, $15,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Donald Cerrone: $88,000 (UFC paid out despite bout being cancelled)

Jeremy Stephens: $77,000 ($57,000 to show, $20,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Miesha Tate: $60,000 ($50,000 to show, $10,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Raquel Pennington: $57,000 ($26,000 to show, $26,000 win bonus, $5,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Khabib Nurmagomedov: $57,000 ($26,000 to show, $26,000 win bonus, $5,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Rafael Natal: $56,000 ($41,000 to show, $15,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Thiago Alves: $56,000 ($45,000 to show, $9,000 fine for missing weight, $20,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Michael Johnson: $47,000 ($32,000 to show, $15,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Liz Carmouche: $43,000 ($19,000 to show, $19,000 win bonus, $5,000 Reebok sponsorship)

Vicente Luque: $34,500 ($16,000 to show, $16,000 win bonus, $2,500 Reebok sponsorship)

Belal Muhammad: $14,500 ($12,000 to show, $2,500 Reebok sponsorship)

Katlyn Chookagian: $14,500 ($12,000 to show, $2,500 Reebok sponsorship) 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on November 15, 2016, 12:29:12 PM
Hard to get my head around this wanting an equity stake in the UFC talk from McGregor.  Just cant see that happening any time soon.  Of course he's in a postion to earn lots more money from them but how can a current fighter have a stake in the company? That just wouldnt work.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 15, 2016, 12:30:28 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 15, 2016, 12:29:12 PM
Hard to get my head around this wanting an equity stake in the UFC talk from McGregor.  Just cant see that happening any time soon.  Of course he's in a postion to earn lots more money from them but how can a current fighter have a stake in the company? That just wouldnt work.

Yeah, there's be a pretty big conflict of interest right there!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Franko on November 15, 2016, 01:51:38 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 15, 2016, 12:29:12 PM
Hard to get my head around this wanting an equity stake in the UFC talk from McGregor.  Just cant see that happening any time soon.  Of course he's in a postion to earn lots more money from them but how can a current fighter have a stake in the company? That just wouldnt work.

I thought the inference here was that, with this child on the way, he was angling at retirement?  No?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on November 15, 2016, 05:22:11 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 15, 2016, 12:30:28 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 15, 2016, 12:29:12 PM
Hard to get my head around this wanting an equity stake in the UFC talk from McGregor.  Just cant see that happening any time soon.  Of course he's in a postion to earn lots more money from them but how can a current fighter have a stake in the company? That just wouldnt work.

Yeah, there's be a pretty big conflict of interest right there!

Agreed, but he could create some sort of option that matures at a later date.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 15, 2016, 09:32:17 PM
Quote from: Franko on November 15, 2016, 01:51:38 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 15, 2016, 12:29:12 PM
Hard to get my head around this wanting an equity stake in the UFC talk from McGregor.  Just cant see that happening any time soon.  Of course he's in a postion to earn lots more money from them but how can a current fighter have a stake in the company? That just wouldnt work.

I thought the inference here was that, with this child on the way, he was angling at retirement?  No?

I didn't get that sense at all. Too much money to be made.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 15, 2016, 11:09:39 PM
What was the thing that Alvarez was on about during the press conference, something about McGregor is having two children?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on November 16, 2016, 02:05:13 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on November 14, 2016, 05:57:38 PM
I've not watched Alvarez before but what I read about him I expected a much better battle but what I saw was very disappointing. Eddie hardly threw anything worthwhile at him and when he did have him down on the canvas I expected that to get a lot more interesting.
CmcG does seem very accurate with his punches but did Alvarez not leave himself very open to them? Like I've said I only watched a few of McGregors fights so I don't know a lot about this sport but personally I'd love to see a rematch between him and Aldo who looks like he has not been treated that fairly with the smash and grab of his title and then McGregor started messing around with Diaz which was entertaining but looked like a ploy to avoid defending his own belt.

Now McGregor has his two belts but is calling out to his UFC bosses that he helped create this show and he wants his cut of the business now. Money talks in these types of sports and keeping their cash cow on side means a lot more success for this business and the fighters who can retire after one big pay day. I am not dismissing McGregor and what he has done to get this far but I just fear money has taken over the real business of fighting and that's why we've saw another quick finish with neither fighter looking too bad.

Jesus.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on November 16, 2016, 08:24:12 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on November 14, 2016, 05:57:38 PM
I've not watched Alvarez before but what I read about him I expected a much better battle but what I saw was very disappointing. Eddie hardly threw anything worthwhile at him and when he did have him down on the canvas I expected that to get a lot more interesting.
CmcG does seem very accurate with his punches but did Alvarez not leave himself very open to them? Like I've said I only watched a few of McGregors fights so I don't know a lot about this sport but personally I'd love to see a rematch between him and Aldo who looks like he has not been treated that fairly with the smash and grab of his title and then McGregor started messing around with Diaz which was entertaining but looked like a ploy to avoid defending his own belt.

Now McGregor has his two belts but is calling out to his UFC bosses that he helped create this show and he wants his cut of the business now. Money talks in these types of sports and keeping their cash cow on side means a lot more success for this business and the fighters who can retire after one big pay day. I am not dismissing McGregor and what he has done to get this far but I just fear money has taken over the real business of fighting and that's why we've saw another quick finish with neither fighter looking too bad.

The chances of the top fiuhters facing off is high in the UFC though, although money talks but it is obviously far worse in boxing where money seems to be the key reason now for any fights the world champions take. 

As for Aldo, a part of me thinks he should have got another fight but if you were looking at it from a boxing perspective for example, if a fighter was knocked out in the first round there would not be many thinking he deserved a rematch.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 16, 2016, 09:08:01 AM
For those wondering about whether the UFC is rigged or not did you see Cage Warrior Unplugged?  It was on BT Sport on Saturday night before the UFC.

That looked like a total fix.

There were joint main events.  Both fights went to points and the reigning champ / British fighters were given the decicions in both contests.  The first one seemed like a coin flip to me, but the second one looked like a clear win for the American "Juicy-J".  However, he was up against what seems like the great big Cage Warrior hope in Paddy Pimblett, and I guess there was no chance that their main man was going to be beaten on points.

That seems like a big problem re the integrity of sport at that level, ie its in their commercial interests to create and hone superstars.  Awarding them a points defeat doesn't really work in that circumstance!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on November 16, 2016, 10:22:01 AM
Quote from: gallsman on November 15, 2016, 09:32:17 PM
Quote from: Franko on November 15, 2016, 01:51:38 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 15, 2016, 12:29:12 PM
Hard to get my head around this wanting an equity stake in the UFC talk from McGregor.  Just cant see that happening any time soon.  Of course he's in a postion to earn lots more money from them but how can a current fighter have a stake in the company? That just wouldnt work.

I thought the inference here was that, with this child on the way, he was angling at retirement?  No?

I didn't get that sense at all. Too much money to be made.

Cant see that being the case at all. in the same press conference he made a big deal of only being 28 and still in great shape considering the game he is in. no plans for retirement yet i would say. For me the shares in the company is a complete no go and he is just perhaps leveraging an even bigger deal
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 16, 2016, 10:28:02 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 16, 2016, 09:08:01 AM
For those wondering about whether the UFC is rigged or not did you see Cage Warrior Unplugged?  It was on BT Sport on Saturday night before the UFC.

That looked like a total fix.

There were joint main events.  Both fights went to points and the reigning champ / British fighters were given the decicions in both contests.  The first one seemed like a coin flip to me, but the second one looked like a clear win for the American "Juicy-J".  However, he was up against what seems like the great big Cage Warrior hope in Paddy Pimblett, and I guess there was no chance that their main man was going to be beaten on points.

That seems like a big problem re the integrity of sport at that level, ie its in their commercial interests to create and hone superstars.  Awarding them a points defeat doesn't really work in that circumstance!!!

The Pimblett fight was a disgrace by all accounts. Most of the opinions online had him losing four of the five rounds. Pimblett's manager is the Cage Warriors CEO or something...


Quote from: JimStynes on November 15, 2016, 11:09:39 PM
What was the thing that Alvarez was on about during the press conference, something about McGregor is having two children?

Alvarez said that McGregor's announcement was that he was having two kids but that his wife (presumably he meant his girlfriend Dee Devlin) wasn't having twins, i.e. he'd knocked someone else up. No idea if it's true or not but would guess it was probably just bullshit to try and rattle McGregor in the lead up to the fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tyrone Gaa on November 16, 2016, 10:31:47 AM
McGregor is advertised to be in Cookstown this weekend at a night club.  I presume then he will be attending UFC Belfast and making his way to Cookstown after the event
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on November 16, 2016, 10:35:47 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 16, 2016, 09:08:01 AM
For those wondering about whether the UFC is rigged or not did you see Cage Warrior Unplugged?  It was on BT Sport on Saturday night before the UFC.

That looked like a total fix.

There were joint main events.  Both fights went to points and the reigning champ / British fighters were given the decicions in both contests.  The first one seemed like a coin flip to me, but the second one looked like a clear win for the American "Juicy-J".  However, he was up against what seems like the great big Cage Warrior hope in Paddy Pimblett, and I guess there was no chance that their main man was going to be beaten on points.

That seems like a big problem re the integrity of sport at that level, ie its in their commercial interests to create and hone superstars.  Awarding them a points defeat doesn't really work in that circumstance!!!
I would still maintain there are far less dodgy decisions in MMA than in boxing, one of the main reasons why I now find MMA more interesting.  I would have given the decision against Pimblett, but it wasn't clearcut, and when you're fighting a champion in his home venue, then you have to be convincing. Juicy-J was a bit too cautious in the end.

Unreal scenes at the end when Pimblett puked all over the ring during his post fight interview. Good job it was the last fight!

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 16, 2016, 10:37:16 AM
Lads any idea who could possibly be at the UFC event in London (March 2017)?

Is it likely to be local fighters or could any title fights take place?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on November 16, 2016, 10:45:25 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 16, 2016, 10:22:01 AM
Quote from: gallsman on November 15, 2016, 09:32:17 PM
Quote from: Franko on November 15, 2016, 01:51:38 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 15, 2016, 12:29:12 PM
Hard to get my head around this wanting an equity stake in the UFC talk from McGregor.  Just cant see that happening any time soon.  Of course he's in a postion to earn lots more money from them but how can a current fighter have a stake in the company? That just wouldnt work.

I thought the inference here was that, with this child on the way, he was angling at retirement?  No?

I didn't get that sense at all. Too much money to be made.

Cant see that being the case at all. in the same press conference he made a big deal of only being 28 and still in great shape considering the game he is in. no plans for retirement yet i would say. For me the shares in the company is a complete no go and he is just perhaps leveraging an even bigger deal

I think he may have missed the boat in terms of equity. The previous owners are the ones with the $4 billion in their back pockets. The new owners have lumbered the company with debt, so the company is effectively worth nothing at the moment (i.e. $4 billion of assets, $4 billion of debt).

It is a bit surprising the new owners didn't talk to him prior to the takeover, as he's the biggest earner for UFC, so presumably the future cash flow projections that came up with the big valuation included revenues he'd generate, so they should have wanted to lock him down.

Be interesting to see what they offer him. I'd imagine the UFC would like him to go again in the Spring, but I'd say he's preparing to play hard ball and would happily sit out for 9-12 months or until he gets a big increase.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on November 16, 2016, 10:47:50 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 16, 2016, 10:37:16 AM
Lads any idea who could possibly be at the UFC event in London (March 2017)?

Is it likely to be local fighters or could any title fights take place?
Not a numbered event, so unlikely to be any title fights. So a card similar to Belfast (although probably better than Belfast), rather than similar to Manchester. The upside of that is it should be on in the evening time, rather than in the middle of the night like Manchester was.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 16, 2016, 10:50:14 AM
Quote from: Hound on November 16, 2016, 10:47:50 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 16, 2016, 10:37:16 AM
Lads any idea who could possibly be at the UFC event in London (March 2017)?

Is it likely to be local fighters or could any title fights take place?
Not a numbered event, so unlikely to be any title fights. So a card similar to Belfast (although probably better than Belfast), rather than similar to Manchester. The upside of that is it should be on in the evening time, rather than in the middle of the night like Manchester was.

Cheers Hound. Think I'll go anyway.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 16, 2016, 11:16:16 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on November 16, 2016, 10:31:47 AM
McGregor is advertised to be in Cookstown this weekend at a night club.  I presume then he will be attending UFC Belfast and making his way to Cookstown after the event

I call bullshit on this one.

Even if he turns up at UFC Belfast, who in their right mind would leave the event just to turn up at a nite club in Cookstown, never mind a multi-million pound earning global superstar?

I bet it turns out to be that lad who does the McGregor impression.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on November 16, 2016, 11:22:20 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on November 16, 2016, 11:16:16 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on November 16, 2016, 10:31:47 AM
McGregor is advertised to be in Cookstown this weekend at a night club.  I presume then he will be attending UFC Belfast and making his way to Cookstown after the event

I call bullshit on this one.

Even if he turns up at UFC Belfast, who in their right mind would leave the event just to turn up at a nite club in Cookstown, never mind a multi-million pound earning global superstar?

I bet it turns out to be that lad who does the McGregor impression.

maybe Calum Best wearing a McGregor wig?  :)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tyrone Gaa on November 16, 2016, 11:34:30 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on November 16, 2016, 11:16:16 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on November 16, 2016, 10:31:47 AM
McGregor is advertised to be in Cookstown this weekend at a night club.  I presume then he will be attending UFC Belfast and making his way to Cookstown after the event

I call bullshit on this one.

Even if he turns up at UFC Belfast, who in their right mind would leave the event just to turn up at a nite club in Cookstown, never mind a multi-million pound earning global superstar?

I bet it turns out to be that lad who does the McGregor impression.

I was of the same opinion but I now actually think its genuine.  Obviously McGregor doesn't need the money and the appearance fee would be small fry.  But perhaps the owners of this night club have contacts close to McGregor and he is doing them a favour. 

If it turns out to be an impersonator it would backfire massively on the nightclub. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Up The Middle on November 16, 2016, 12:44:40 PM
What would McGregor get as an appearance fee, couldn't be any less than 25 grand id imagine.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 16, 2016, 01:23:01 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on November 16, 2016, 11:34:30 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on November 16, 2016, 11:16:16 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on November 16, 2016, 10:31:47 AM
McGregor is advertised to be in Cookstown this weekend at a night club.  I presume then he will be attending UFC Belfast and making his way to Cookstown after the event

I call bullshit on this one.

Even if he turns up at UFC Belfast, who in their right mind would leave the event just to turn up at a nite club in Cookstown, never mind a multi-million pound earning global superstar?

I bet it turns out to be that lad who does the McGregor impression.

I was of the same opinion but I now actually think its genuine.  Obviously McGregor doesn't need the money and the appearance fee would be small fry.  But perhaps the owners of this night club have contacts close to McGregor and he is doing them a favour. 

If it turns out to be an impersonator it would backfire massively on the nightclub.

That's the only way I could see it happening, if he knows somebody there and as you say, he is doing a favour.

Ah well, fair dues if he shows up. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Club Rossa on November 16, 2016, 02:17:53 PM
No tickets left for his Cookstown appearance.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 16, 2016, 05:36:35 PM
Figured this might happen

Quote***Statement from Sense Nightclub***

We have just received confirmation that Conor Mc Gregor has cancelled his personal appearance in Sense Nightclub this Saturday 19th of November. We are awaiting a statement from either Conor or his agent whom we made the booking through.
In the meantime we can only apologise for this but it is totally out of our control.
Tickets bought online can be refunded on the Eventbrite website. VIP refunds can be obtained by calling the Sense office tomorrow between 10am-4pm on 02886767575.

When we know more information as to why Conor cancelled, we will post this.

Apologies again,

Team Sense
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: TheOptimist on November 16, 2016, 05:48:18 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on November 16, 2016, 05:36:35 PM
Figured this might happen

Quote***Statement from Sense Nightclub***

We have just received confirmation that Conor Mc Gregor has cancelled his personal appearance in Sense Nightclub this Saturday 19th of November. We are awaiting a statement from either Conor or his agent whom we made the booking through.
In the meantime we can only apologise for this but it is totally out of our control.
Tickets bought online can be refunded on the Eventbrite website. VIP refunds can be obtained by calling the Sense office tomorrow between 10am-4pm on 02886767575.

When we know more information as to why Conor cancelled, we will post this.

Apologies again,

Team Sense

I wonder have the nightclub been scammed?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: take_yer_points on November 16, 2016, 05:53:04 PM
I see el devino advertising that he's appearing there on Saturday night too
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Minder on November 16, 2016, 06:44:17 PM
I wouldn't have thought he was in the Big Brother type £2k a nightclub appearance circuit
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2016, 08:49:29 PM
The tyrone gig is cancelled.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 16, 2016, 11:24:23 PM
Fcuk sake. Who'll come now. Hope not yer wan from UTV again, Pamela
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: square_ball on November 17, 2016, 07:35:41 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 16, 2016, 11:24:23 PM
Fcuk sake. Who'll come now. Hope not yer wan from UTV again, Pamela

I heard Malachi is gonna be making an appearance instead now.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on November 17, 2016, 08:30:42 AM
Quote from: take_yer_points on November 16, 2016, 05:53:04 PM
I see el devino advertising that he's appearing there on Saturday night too

It's some look-a-like doing the rounds and milking the thing.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 28, 2016, 01:31:46 PM
Surprised there's been no mention of this

http://www.ufc.ca/news/McGregor-vacates-featherweight-title
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 28, 2016, 01:41:27 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on November 28, 2016, 01:31:46 PM
Surprised there's been no mention of this

http://www.ufc.ca/news/McGregor-vacates-featherweight-title

They've made a complete balls of it. I'm more surprised there's no word from McGregor yet.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: haranguerer on November 28, 2016, 01:59:49 PM
I assumed it was agreed that he'd get his chance to hold both at same time, but after that would have to vacate - thats the headline anyway, that he held 2 weights at same time. Doesn't really matter that he's had to vacate one now, does it?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 28, 2016, 02:43:12 PM
The UFC have said he "relinquished" the belt. I doubt that given his rhetoric about them needing an army to take it off him.

What's happened is that have an absolute calamity waiting for them in two weeks time at 206 and have decided they need a title fight to headline it. So of course they've done the logical thing and stripped McGregor, promoted Aldo to champion and planned an interim title fight (rather than a contender's fight) between Holloway and Pettis. Daft.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on November 28, 2016, 02:45:10 PM
I'd say the plan was to wait to vacate until McGregor's next fight was announced (which isn't going to be at 145).
But Cormier pulling out of 206 has meant they need a title fight to headline (presumably too late to find an alternative for Johnson to fight for an interim belt), hence the belt gymnastics at 145.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 28, 2016, 03:46:16 PM
Quote from: Hound on November 28, 2016, 02:45:10 PM
I'd say the plan was to wait to vacate until McGregor's next fight was announced (which isn't going to be at 145).
But Cormier pulling out of 206 has meant they need a title fight to headline (presumably too late to find an alternative for Johnson to fight for an interim belt), hence the belt gymnastics at 145.

There was talk of Mousasi vs Johnson.

I understand the logic, I just think it's ridiculous. To save a PPV you put in place an interim title fight for a division where there's no need for an interim belt (if you can ever accept the need for an interim belt)?!

Aldo beat Edgar for the interim belt at 200 because of McGregor's dicking outside the division. McGregor has now either relinquished or been stripped so Aldo is champion. End of story. Why make this an interim title fight? Purely to have a "title" fight as the headliner on a numbered ppv? If so, that's completely ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on November 29, 2016, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 28, 2016, 03:46:16 PM
Quote from: Hound on November 28, 2016, 02:45:10 PM
I'd say the plan was to wait to vacate until McGregor's next fight was announced (which isn't going to be at 145).
But Cormier pulling out of 206 has meant they need a title fight to headline (presumably too late to find an alternative for Johnson to fight for an interim belt), hence the belt gymnastics at 145.

There was talk of Mousasi vs Johnson.

I understand the logic, I just think it's ridiculous. To save a PPV you put in place an interim title fight for a division where there's no need for an interim belt (if you can ever accept the need for an interim belt)?!

Aldo beat Edgar for the interim belt at 200 because of McGregor's dicking outside the division. McGregor has now either relinquished or been stripped so Aldo is champion. End of story. Why make this an interim title fight? Purely to have a "title" fight as the headliner on a numbered ppv? If so, that's completely ridiculous.

What is an interim belt? Is it like bailing twine?

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on November 29, 2016, 03:22:53 PM
I don't see what the big deal is he's clearly not going to fight at 145 again so he should no longer be allowed to be the Champion at that weight.

What's the standard for making someone vacate a belt? Fury got a year and McGregor just a bit less which is fair enough I reckon.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 29, 2016, 03:41:23 PM
Quote from: screenexile on November 29, 2016, 03:22:53 PM
I don't see what the big deal is he's clearly not going to fight at 145 again so he should no longer be allowed to be the Champion at that weight.

What's the standard for making someone vacate a belt? Fury got a year and McGregor just a bit less which is fair enough I reckon.

Anyone with a bit of sense and objectivity won't object to them stripping McGregor of the 145lb belt. It's the fact that they've somehow felt the need to continue with a champion (Aldo) and have an interim champion (the winner of Holloway-Pettis) that is absolutely daft.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on November 29, 2016, 07:51:52 PM
Pettis had a great fight last time out against Oliveira but had a few stinkers before then and didn't perform to his abilities. I think this is a great fight if Pettis shows up or a one sided beat down if he doesn't and Max shines.
The whole interim thing is a mess but CMG didn't defend in 12 months or so.  He has some grounds for complaint as GSP and Cain and Aldo I think all were out for longer periods of time and it's not as if the UFC was losing money on Mcgregor... either way the 155 is a tougher division for him but he'll always have the insurance cover of going back to 145 and beating anyone there...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 29, 2016, 08:44:40 PM
The difference is those three were out injured (at least allegedly) and didn't fight. McGregor has fought three times (above featherweight) since he became champion and not defended the belt.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 09, 2016, 04:25:29 PM
Sp Pettis has gone and fucked things up by not making weight - he weighed in at 148.

Weirdly, the fight is still on - if Holloway wins - he wins the interim belt although Pettis won't if he wins. He also has to pay 20% of his prize money to Holloway.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 09, 2016, 06:06:49 PM
he looked horrible at the weigins for his last fight - though in fairness CMG looks desperate at 145 weighin  -tough drop for anyone
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 09, 2016, 11:44:08 PM
Anyone see the video of McGregor's boxing sparring session last week??

Best he stays in the Octagon I think!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 10, 2016, 12:22:24 AM
Pettis isn't a 145er at all. He only moved down because he took a pasting in his last three lightweight fights.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 12, 2016, 12:06:02 PM
BT Sport had about 7 hours of UFC on Saturday night.

I've only started watching UFC recently, but the French light heavyweight, Francis N'gannou who fought at UFC Albany looked pretty special.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on December 12, 2016, 01:24:17 PM
Some great fights at the weekend there on the main card.

Fight of the year contender with Swanson vs Choi.

Cerrone with a great knockout too and Holloway vs Pettis wasn't bad either.

Prelims decent enugh as well.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 12, 2016, 03:12:08 PM
I thought Holloway-Pettis was awful. Broken hand didn't help but Pettis looked finished from the get go. There's nothing back at 155 any more either. Holloway has been incredibly impressive but I think both Aldo and McGregor would butcher him.

Cerrone for a spectacular knockout but there was more than enough in that fight to show that he doesn't belong at the business end of WW.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 12, 2016, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 12, 2016, 03:12:08 PM
I thought Holloway-Pettis was awful. Broken hand didn't help but Pettis looked finished from the get go. There's nothing back at 155 any more either. Holloway has been incredibly impressive but I think both Aldo and McGregor would butcher him.

Cerrone for a spectacular knockout but there was more than enough in that fight to show that he doesn't belong at the business end of WW.

I enjoyed Pettis getting a beating - he needed it and I agree he's got nothing at 155  - he should head to Bellator or somewhere- I think Uncle Dana would agree...

Cerrone made hard work of the brown fight - he should stay at 155 but even there he gets hit a lot and still carries that old midsection injury that leaves him vulnerable.

the FOTY candidate... look it was entertaining, but there wasn't a whole lot of skill involved...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on December 12, 2016, 09:28:44 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 12, 2016, 03:12:08 PM
I thought Holloway-Pettis was awful. Broken hand didn't help but Pettis looked finished from the get go. There's nothing back at 155 any more either. Holloway has been incredibly impressive but I think both Aldo and McGregor would butcher him.

Don't think we'll ever see Mcgregor back at 145, but I think Aldo v Holloway will be a cracker, and I wouldnt put it past Holloway to get the win. UFC trying to get it on in Feb, but that's very soon for Max, so he's asking for a later date. Would love to see him win it.

Be interesting to see if Swanson kicks on after his impressive win. I expected Choi to beat him, but Swanson was too good, too strong. They'll both be in more exciting fights in the future I'm sure.

Agree with Joe re N'gannou. Looks a right talent. Certainly one to keep an eye out for.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on December 13, 2016, 08:58:33 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on December 12, 2016, 04:20:58 PM


Cerrone made hard work of the brown fight - he should stay at 155 but even there he gets hit a lot and still carries that old midsection injury that leaves him vulnerable.

the FOTY candidate... look it was entertaining, but there wasn't a whole lot of skill involved...

Ah come on!  Who doesn't like a good brawl?!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: 5 Sams on December 17, 2016, 11:56:34 PM
McGregor Irish Sports Personality of the Year :-X :-[ :-\ Country's cowped.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Far East on December 18, 2016, 01:14:01 AM
Is there anyone more deserving? Who would your choice have been?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on December 18, 2016, 02:52:20 PM
McGregor is the clear winner
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 18, 2016, 04:51:20 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on December 17, 2016, 11:56:34 PM
McGregor Irish Sports Personality of the Year :-X :-[ :-\ Country's cowped.

Well to be honest a few still question if UFC is a sport and personality I think it's created character for him and he plays it very well
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 18, 2016, 05:45:19 PM
Obvious and correct choice. Olympics were a shitshow and no one bar the three boatys came out of it with any plaudits. Beyond that the only highlights were beating the All Blacks who were off on their holidays and the Italian B team in the Euros. Not exactly much competition on the international stage for McGregor.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lenny on December 18, 2016, 09:35:52 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 18, 2016, 05:45:19 PM
Obvious and correct choice. Olympics were a shitshow and no one bar the three boatys came out of it with any plaudits. Beyond that the only highlights were beating the All Blacks who were off on their holidays and the Italian B team in the Euros. Not exactly much competition on the international stage for McGregor.

To be honest that's the first time I've ever heard mcgregor speaking and I must say he is a very unlikeable character. I've read lots of quotes by him but it's not a sport I take any interest in. It's a new sport and very much a minority sport in participation terms. I've enough sports that i'm passionate about and I don't have any desire to watch this mongrel of a sport. I would say that 80% of sports fans in ireland either don't like mcgregor or are indifferent to him due to not having any interest in that sport. He obviously has a loyal following among the generation who are most likely to have voted though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 18, 2016, 11:14:08 PM
McGregor is the biggest sports star from this country. He may well end up the most well known of all time. One thing few are is indifferent to him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 18, 2016, 11:39:24 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 18, 2016, 11:14:08 PM
McGregor is the biggest sports star from this country. He may well end up the most well known of all time. One thing few are is indifferent to him.


McIlroy
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lenny on December 19, 2016, 07:40:45 AM
Quote from: Syferus on December 18, 2016, 11:14:08 PM
McGregor is the biggest sports star from this country. He may well end up the most well known of all time. One thing few are is indifferent to him.

Most people I know are indifferent to mcgregor. If you've no interest in mma then the only time you see him is in news clips. I would say the big majority of the country have no interest in mma. Having said that the people who have got into seem to be very loyal to mcgregor. Mcilroy is a bigger star than mcgregor
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 30, 2016, 05:46:19 PM
Rousey back tonight. Looks to be in excellent shape.

Hope Cruz annihilates Garbrandt.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 30, 2016, 09:07:23 PM
Cruz, if he's healthy, should dominate him and make a cub out of him....
I really hope Rowdy is back on form and doesn't get clipped and finished this one fast.. she took some flack when she lost to Holly and went on hiatus.
Interested to see how TJ handles Lineker - could be a big KO finish from either one...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 30, 2016, 09:21:22 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on December 30, 2016, 09:07:23 PM
Cruz, if he's healthy, should dominate him and make a cub out of him....
I really hope Rowdy is back on form and doesn't get clipped and finished this one fast.. she took some flack when she lost to Holly and went on hiatus.
Interested to see how TJ handles Lineker - could be a big KO finish from either one...

I think the men's bantamweight fights go 50-45 and 30-27 every day of the week. Cruz and TJ are the best in the division by a long long way. The two lads can both bang alright, but I can't see Dillashaw getting clipped much and I can't see Cruz getting caught at all.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 31, 2016, 03:43:25 AM
Anyone got a decent link to 207?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Linkbox on December 31, 2016, 04:06:42 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 31, 2016, 03:43:25 AM
Anyone got a decent link to 207?

This one has been stable for a while. Use an AdBlocker as the site is a POS.

http://firstsrow.eu/boxing/trs-ufc-207-amanda-nunes-vs-ronda-rousey-brf1032277?l=1022501734
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 31, 2016, 04:28:15 AM
Quote from: Linkbox on December 31, 2016, 04:06:42 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 31, 2016, 03:43:25 AM
Anyone got a decent link to 207?

This one has been stable for a while. Use an AdBlocker as the site is a POS.

http://firstsrow.eu/boxing/trs-ufc-207-amanda-nunes-vs-ronda-rousey-brf1032277?l=1022501734

Good man yourself
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 31, 2016, 05:26:54 AM
Unbelievable performance from Garbrandt. Didn't think he had this in him at all. Has made Cruz look positively amateurish. Clean, precise and looked like he good have gone five more rounds.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 31, 2016, 05:31:53 AM
Quote from: gallsman on December 31, 2016, 05:26:54 AM
Unbelievable performance from Garbrandt. Didn't think he had this in him at all. Has made Cruz look positively amateurish. Clean, precise and looked like he good have gone five more rounds.

Dominated and took the piss out of him in equal measure
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 31, 2016, 05:34:11 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 31, 2016, 05:31:53 AM
Quote from: gallsman on December 31, 2016, 05:26:54 AM
Unbelievable performance from Garbrandt. Didn't think he had this in him at all. Has made Cruz look positively amateurish. Clean, precise and looked like he good have gone five more rounds.

Dominated and took the piss out of him in equal measure
He sure did a bad beating for Cruz.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Linkbox on December 31, 2016, 05:34:57 AM
He was first class. Very accurate.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 31, 2016, 05:38:08 AM
Who's winning this one?

Rhonda still got it mentally?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 31, 2016, 05:40:15 AM
A real star is born performance from Garbrandt. That was stunning.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 31, 2016, 05:40:42 AM
Ronda looking more focused and determined than her last fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 31, 2016, 05:45:35 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 31, 2016, 05:40:42 AM
Ronda looking more focused and determined than her last fight.

Wouldn't be difficult. She was a mess for it and paid accordingly.

If Ronda goes back to judo and gets inside, she wins. If she still thinks she can strike, she gets starched again.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 31, 2016, 05:48:13 AM
Wow
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 31, 2016, 05:50:25 AM
That's her done
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 31, 2016, 05:52:00 AM
3m dollars for that ffs. f**k off. Dominant from Nunes and she gets 200k for that. UFC is a joke sometimes. Ronda is done. I'm not sure she landed a shot. Some humility is in order.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 31, 2016, 05:58:34 AM
Yes that's Ronda done with UFC now. She looked out of it after the first few shots to her head. At the end she thought the fight was still on, concussion perhaps.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 31, 2016, 07:15:48 AM
Has she no ability to move her head when there is a fist coming towards it?

That was embarrassing
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 31, 2016, 08:40:31 AM
Nunes landed 27 significant strikes in 48 seconds.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 31, 2016, 02:44:17 PM
If Rousey gives up after this she will be followed by this for the rest of her life. It's in her best interest to have the balls to pick up the pieces and start again rather than feck off to Hollywood. The image of an unstoppable badass is already shattered anyways.

Such a difference between how McGregor and Rousey responded to a loss. It's the mark of a real champion how you deal with those moments.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on December 31, 2016, 05:20:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 31, 2016, 02:44:17 PM
If Rousey gives up after this she will be followed by this for the rest of her life. It's in her best interest to have the balls to pick up the pieces and start again rather than feck off to Hollywood. The image of an unstoppable badass is already shattered anyways.

Such a difference between how McGregor and Rousey responded to a loss. It's the mark of a real champion how you deal with those moments.
That was Rouseys comeback fight to prove she still had it. If McGregor lost in the manner Rousey has the last two fights he too would pack it in. She is done and Hollywood or the WWE ring is the only place for her now.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 31, 2016, 05:33:50 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on December 31, 2016, 05:20:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 31, 2016, 02:44:17 PM
If Rousey gives up after this she will be followed by this for the rest of her life. It's in her best interest to have the balls to pick up the pieces and start again rather than feck off to Hollywood. The image of an unstoppable badass is already shattered anyways.

Such a difference between how McGregor and Rousey responded to a loss. It's the mark of a real champion how you deal with those moments.
That was Rouseys comeback fight to prove she still had it. If McGregor lost in the manner Rousey has the last two fights he too would pack it in. She is done and Hollywood or the WWE ring is the only place for her now.

She's 29 ffs, an MMA fighter's peak is usually their early to mid 30s - there's no question it's a mental issue rather than a physical one. By Christ she took so little damage in her previous fights she's probably one of the freshest 29 year-olds the sport has ever seen. This isn't a shot fighter going on too long. I'd lose a lot of respect for her if she packs it in because of a couple setbacks. She bought into her own hype and hasn't been able to square away losing the previous fight with that image.

As Rocky said, it's not about how hard you hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward that counts..
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on December 31, 2016, 06:00:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 31, 2016, 05:33:50 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on December 31, 2016, 05:20:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 31, 2016, 02:44:17 PM
If Rousey gives up after this she will be followed by this for the rest of her life. It's in her best interest to have the balls to pick up the pieces and start again rather than feck off to Hollywood. The image of an unstoppable badass is already shattered anyways.

Such a difference between how McGregor and Rousey responded to a loss. It's the mark of a real champion how you deal with those moments.
That was Rouseys comeback fight to prove she still had it. If McGregor lost in the manner Rousey has the last two fights he too would pack it in. She is done and Hollywood or the WWE ring is the only place for her now.

She's 29 ffs, an MMA fighter's peak is usually their early to mid 30s - there's no question it's a mental issue rather than a physical one. By Christ she took so little damage in her previous fights she's probably one of the freshest 29 year-olds the sport has ever seen. This isn't a shot fighter going on too long. I'd lose a lot of respect for her if she packs it in because of a couple setbacks. She bought into her own hype and hasn't been able to square away losing the previous fight with that image.

As Rocky said, it's not about how hard you hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward that counts..

Rocky said hmm in real life fighters peak or are finished at different ages. Mike Tyson for example was done by 25 but he carried on in the hope he would rediscover his old form.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 31, 2016, 06:09:15 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on December 31, 2016, 06:00:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 31, 2016, 05:33:50 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on December 31, 2016, 05:20:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 31, 2016, 02:44:17 PM
If Rousey gives up after this she will be followed by this for the rest of her life. It's in her best interest to have the balls to pick up the pieces and start again rather than feck off to Hollywood. The image of an unstoppable badass is already shattered anyways.

Such a difference between how McGregor and Rousey responded to a loss. It's the mark of a real champion how you deal with those moments.
That was Rouseys comeback fight to prove she still had it. If McGregor lost in the manner Rousey has the last two fights he too would pack it in. She is done and Hollywood or the WWE ring is the only place for her now.

She's 29 ffs, an MMA fighter's peak is usually their early to mid 30s - there's no question it's a mental issue rather than a physical one. By Christ she took so little damage in her previous fights she's probably one of the freshest 29 year-olds the sport has ever seen. This isn't a shot fighter going on too long. I'd lose a lot of respect for her if she packs it in because of a couple setbacks. She bought into her own hype and hasn't been able to square away losing the previous fight with that image.

As Rocky said, it's not about how hard you hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward that counts..

Rocky said hmm in real life fighters peak or are finished at different ages. Mike Tyson for example was done by 25 but he carried on in the hope he would rediscover his old form.

MMA fighters skew older than boxers, who themselves tend to skew older than they did in years previous. You don't turn into a shot fighter overnight and it's clearly in Rousey's head and not her body. Tyson also spent a few years doing porridge at that time it should be remembered..
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on January 03, 2017, 02:35:46 PM
Good analysis by Luke Thomas... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3rCGqOzWTU
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 03, 2017, 03:27:40 PM
Thought TJ looked solid against Linker who was just too small for him. I can't like TJ for everything that transpired with Team Alpha Male and I also don't like that he is a copycat fighter.  He learned Cruz' style to help Uriah and J Benavidez fight Cruz and then kept it because it was effective.
I was completely wrong about the Cruz fight. Cody was extremely sharp and showcase some skills we've not seen to date. Was he holding back or did he just rise to the occasion who knows? I think Cruz looked a little slower than normal - he certainly didn't fight a smart fight and got sucked in to the emotion of it all - maybe he wanted to brawl some more and prove he could but he came up short.

Rhonda, Rhonda, Rhonda, she is mentally damaged and her coach has a lot to answer for. She is so stubborn and should have left that camp a long time ago and spent a year working on striking with someone who actually knows what they are doing... very sad for her
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 03, 2017, 05:33:43 PM
I seen a number of people referring to Rhonda being mentally damaged.  But how did that happen?
Surely one defeat against Holly didn't kill her?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 03, 2017, 05:42:35 PM
BT Sport showed every 2016 numbered UFC during the Holidays.  I recorded and watched all of them over the last week or so.  Having just got into watching (and enjoying) UFC recently it was great to be able to watch the events without knowing the results.

I couldn't believe that Nunes was underdog when she won the title earlier this year.  I had seen her previous fight and she destroyed her opponent.  And then last week, Nunes was again the underdog against Rhonda.

Also, having seen the way that Stiope beat Arlovski in January I was surprised to see that Werdum was favourite in their title bout.

There definitely seems to be a bias towards the experienced fighters when they fight up and coming contenders.  Or maybe that was just hindsight bias from a small sample.

Looking forward; I'd expect n'gannou to beat Arlovski later this month.  Will be interesting to see who the favourite is for that fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 03, 2017, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on January 03, 2017, 05:33:43 PM
I seen a number of people referring to Rhonda being mentally damaged.  But how did that happen?
Surely one defeat against Holly didn't kill her?
She was built up and built up by the UFC, the media, the talk show hosts, the acting opportunities, the WWE appearances and then when she fell everyone (or nearly everyone) turned on her. She legitimately was suicidal and i don't think she properly recovered from the trauma of the rejection.  One good punch in the teeth and it all came back again.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on January 04, 2017, 09:46:54 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on January 03, 2017, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on January 03, 2017, 05:33:43 PM
I seen a number of people referring to Rhonda being mentally damaged.  But how did that happen?
Surely one defeat against Holly didn't kill her?
She was built up and built up by the UFC, the media, the talk show hosts, the acting opportunities, the WWE appearances and then when she fell everyone (or nearly everyone) turned on her. She legitimately was suicidal and i don't think she properly recovered from the trauma of the rejection.  One good punch in the teeth and it all came back again.

I don't think she helped herself with the media blackout and general attitude in the aftermath of Holm fight and lead up to Nunes defeat. Too many people were putting emphasis on her superb physique but mentally she was a beaten docket, not to mention being absoluted stunned within 10 seconds, it wasn't even a fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 16, 2017, 10:53:58 PM
Yair Rodriguez looked pretty impressive last night.  BJ Penn was clearly outmatched as he had no answer to Yair's incredible kicking game.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 17, 2017, 09:13:12 AM
Yair is a star in waiting and the key to them breaking into Mexico. That fight was an embarrassment though. Penn had no business in there with him at his age and after so much downtime. At the weigh in he said "kicking ass is timeless." 'Fraid it's not BJ, I'm afraid it's not. For the love of God retire again for good.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on January 17, 2017, 09:17:19 AM
Penn looked like an old man alright.  Looked completely out of shape.

First time seeing Rodriguez too.  Really liked him.  His kicking was unreal. 

Where is he in the rankings?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 17, 2017, 09:55:47 AM
Tenth with an 8 fight win streak. He'll be knocking on the door after another fight I'd say. Everyone above him had already been demolished by McGregor, Aldo or Holloway.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 18, 2017, 01:28:54 PM
I'd like to see Mendes in their with Yair. I think it would be a good fight and make sense.
As gallsman said BJ had no business in there - what I don't get is the deterioration in skills in such a short period of time.  Yes he hasn't fought in about 2 years but he was in the gym, surely he was sparring, surely he was working on his conditioning? He looked like I would if I went in there against a professional. I was shocked and saddened to see him take such a beating. I suspect there's something else going on behind the scenes...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on January 18, 2017, 05:11:27 PM
Thinking of going to the UFC in London in March. Tickets on sale next week.

I'm a bit of a novice fan. What you lads make of the line up?? Worth going or waste of money!

Brad Pickett (GB) vs Henry Briones (MX)
Leon Edwards (GB) vs Vicente Luque (BR)
Mark Diakese (GB) vs Teemu Packalen (FI)
Tom Breese (GB) vs Oluwale Bamgbose (US)
Bradley Scott (GB) vs Scott Askham (GB)
Darren Stewart (GB) vs Francimar Barroso (BR)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 18, 2017, 05:47:16 PM
so far the card on paper isn't great in terms of big name fighters.
However, the night will be determined by the fights. They could be all out wars with KO's and crazy submissions or they could be snoozers with no real action. The names don't always make the fights - its all about the matchups....There has to be more names to come at the top. Pickett is not a headliner.  I'd say Bisping maybe? Or a recognizable name that would draw a crowd...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 18, 2017, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on January 18, 2017, 01:28:54 PM
I'd like to see Mendes in their with Yair. I think it would be a good fight and make sense.
As gallsman said BJ had no business in there - what I don't get is the deterioration in skills in such a short period of time.  Yes he hasn't fought in about 2 years but he was in the gym, surely he was sparring, surely he was working on his conditioning? He looked like I would if I went in there against a professional. I was shocked and saddened to see him take such a beating. I suspect there's something else going on behind the scenes...

He was awful two years against Edgar in fairness.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 18, 2017, 06:44:14 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on January 18, 2017, 05:11:27 PM
Thinking of going to the UFC in London in March. Tickets on sale next week.

I'm a bit of a novice fan. What you lads make of the line up?? Worth going or waste of money!

Brad Pickett (GB) vs Henry Briones (MX)
Leon Edwards (GB) vs Vicente Luque (BR)
Mark Diakese (GB) vs Teemu Packalen (FI)
Tom Breese (GB) vs Oluwale Bamgbose (US)
Bradley Scott (GB) vs Scott Askham (GB)
Darren Stewart (GB) vs Francimar Barroso (BR)

Assume this would be in the middle of the night like Manchester?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 18, 2017, 08:11:05 PM
that was a PPV - I don't think they will be doing that for a Fight Night card like this
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 18, 2017, 09:55:54 PM
Did you see the Russian heavyweight, Oleksiy Oliynyk, in the Prelims in Phoenix?

He was on his back taking a good few punches when he choked the guy on top of him.  I've only recently started watching UFC; but I've never seen that before.
The guy on top had him mounted and looked to be in control,  the next thing he tapped out.

Actually, I just googled and apparently it was the first time it was done in the UFC, but it's the 11th time Oliynyk has done it in his career!! https://www.mmanews.com/oleynik-ezekiel-choke-breakdown/
http://mmajunkie.com/2017/01/how-did-ufc-fight-night-103s-aleksei-oleinik-sink-the-first-ufc-ezekiel-choke-he-laid-a-trap
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on January 19, 2017, 01:03:41 PM
Cheers for the response guys. I've no idea on how much the tickets will be either.

Frig it. Think I'll go if I can.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 19, 2017, 01:21:05 PM
Tickets meant to be at least as expensive as UFC 204 was in Manchester. Joke for a non-PPV card with a lineup that absolutely stinks at the minute. Pickett's retirement fight so should be a half decent atmosphere though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 19, 2017, 04:51:14 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 18, 2017, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on January 18, 2017, 01:28:54 PM
I'd like to see Mendes in their with Yair. I think it would be a good fight and make sense.
As gallsman said BJ had no business in there - what I don't get is the deterioration in skills in such a short period of time.  Yes he hasn't fought in about 2 years but he was in the gym, surely he was sparring, surely he was working on his conditioning? He looked like I would if I went in there against a professional. I was shocked and saddened to see him take such a beating. I suspect there's something else going on behind the scenes...

He was awful two years against Edgar in fairness.
I agree thats why I think its a good next fight for him - proving ground
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 19, 2017, 06:06:21 PM
I'm talking about BJ - he last fight two years so and was soundly beaten. Last won a fight six years ago. I don't think there's anything sinister going on behind the scenes - think he's just shot and has been for years.

As for Yair, Mendes is suspended for the next 18 months. Stephens or Swanson would be good matches for him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: oakleaflad on January 19, 2017, 10:14:20 PM
Bisping out of action until May with an injury
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 28, 2017, 05:10:31 PM
UFC Denver tonight.  Looking forward to seeing Francis N'Gannou make short work of Arlovski in the heavyweight bout.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 29, 2017, 09:50:15 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on January 28, 2017, 05:10:31 PM
UFC Denver tonight.  Looking forward to seeing Francis N'Gannou make short work of Arlovski in the heavyweight bout.

Yep
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 03, 2017, 07:31:19 PM
Khabib vs Ferguson off this weekend. Khabib was hospitalized overnight
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 03, 2017, 07:49:52 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 03, 2017, 07:31:19 PM
Khabib vs Ferguson off this weekend. Khabib was hospitalized overnight
disaster for the card - I wonder will they downgrade to a fox event?
theres not enough to keep it a PPV in my opinion
khabib is a big LW - that picture of him wiht Tyson - he looked near as big and mike is about 215...not saying Khabib is that heavy but I would speculate he cuts 25-30 for the limit...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 03, 2017, 08:29:39 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 03, 2017, 07:49:52 PM
disaster for the card - I wonder will they downgrade to a fox event?
theres not enough to keep it a PPV in my opinion
khabib is a big LW - that picture of him wiht Tyson - he looked near as big and mike is about 215...not saying Khabib is that heavy but I would speculate he cuts 25-30 for the limit...

Wonderboy/Woodley 2 is enough for a PPV by itself
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 03, 2017, 09:11:29 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 03, 2017, 08:29:39 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 03, 2017, 07:49:52 PM
disaster for the card - I wonder will they downgrade to a fox event?
theres not enough to keep it a PPV in my opinion
khabib is a big LW - that picture of him wiht Tyson - he looked near as big and mike is about 215...not saying Khabib is that heavy but I would speculate he cuts 25-30 for the limit...

Wonderboy/Woodley 2 is enough for a PPV by itself
they fought to a draw - if it was just them by themselves you'd honestly pay for it?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 03, 2017, 09:29:18 PM
I don't pay for any of them.  :)

But to suggest a rematch for the title after a controversial draw isn't good enough for a PPV main event is a bit of a stretch for me. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on March 04, 2017, 11:09:17 AM
Is there pre-weigh in weight measurements taken by the UFC in the weeks beforehand?  Surely it was known that Khabib was nowhere near making weight and would have to go through a dangerous cut?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: on the sideline on March 05, 2017, 03:37:56 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 03, 2017, 08:29:39 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 03, 2017, 07:49:52 PM
disaster for the card - I wonder will they downgrade to a fox event?
theres not enough to keep it a PPV in my opinion
khabib is a big LW - that picture of him wiht Tyson - he looked near as big and mike is about 215...not saying Khabib is that heavy but I would speculate he cuts 25-30 for the limit...

Wonderboy/Woodley 2 is enough for a PPV by itself

Turned out to be a snooze fest. Suppose they both kept it very tactical as they didn't want to get caught by the other, but was disappointed by it. Thought Wonderboy had it tbh. Without that last 30 seconds think he would have got the decision. Even then I don't think Woodley won 3 rounds and don't think the last was scored 10-8 was it?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 06, 2017, 06:28:02 PM
I had it for Wonderboy too. Their styles just don't match up well. One judge gave the final round as 10-8.

I doubt we'll see Mark Hunt again.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 07, 2017, 08:55:58 AM
I was shocked that Thompson didn't get that decision either.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on March 07, 2017, 10:27:29 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 07, 2017, 08:55:58 AM
I was shocked that Thompson didn't get that decision either.
I had it 3-2 to Thompson also. Two of the judges gave the 2nd round to Woodley and that was the clincher. Reasonably clear that 1 and 4 were Wonderboys and 3 and 5 were Woodleys.

The third judge gave the 2nd to Wonderboy, but gave the 5th as 10-8 to score it a draw overall.

Disappointing fight overall. Awful pity Khabib Ferguson didnt happen
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 07, 2017, 02:17:15 PM
Quote from: Hound on March 07, 2017, 10:27:29 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 07, 2017, 08:55:58 AM
I was shocked that Thompson didn't get that decision either.
I had it 3-2 to Thompson also. Two of the judges gave the 2nd round to Woodley and that was the clincher. Reasonably clear that 1 and 4 were Wonderboys and 3 and 5 were Woodleys.

The third judge gave the 2nd to Wonderboy, but gave the 5th as 10-8 to score it a draw overall.

Disappointing fight overall. Awful pity Khabib Ferguson didnt happen

Aye, I saw the scorecards on the post fight show too, can't believe they didn't give Thompson 1, 2 and 4. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 07, 2017, 02:21:50 PM
I never want to see them fight each other again. Bad matchup - Gabe loves it though!
I would have given the second fight to Thompson. I think we see Hunt fight again this year - his leg isn't broken - he's got power and he's still hungry for cash - especially those kind of pay days...750K disclosed earnings.... he's not hanging up the gloves just yet.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 07, 2017, 03:03:45 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 07, 2017, 02:21:50 PMI never want to see them fight each other again. Bad matchup - Gabe loves it though!

Sorry I had a different opinion to "Mr. UFC expert"  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 07, 2017, 04:44:49 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 07, 2017, 03:03:45 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 07, 2017, 02:21:50 PMI never want to see them fight each other again. Bad matchup - Gabe loves it though!

Sorry I had a different opinion to "Mr. UFC expert"  ::) ::) ::)
you can have an opinion and I'm not the resident expert - I'd say Gallsman follows the sport more closely now than I would
glad you got 25 mins of that shite and didn't have to pay for it -I'm sure you're watching it over and over again at night time..........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
come on Gabe a bit of craic - you'd get worse round the 'Bo
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on March 08, 2017, 09:20:02 AM
Darren Elkins win in the prelims against Bektic was the highlight of 209 for me.

A bloody mess!  Some comeback
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 15, 2017, 07:24:53 PM
Bellator rather than UFC but James "The Strabanimal" Gallagher put up an post on various social media sites today saying "don't judge my skills when i pay your social welfare" or something similar. This lad has been given a huge push, largely because he has modelled himself and his gimmick in McGregor and has looked distinctly average beating cans. He'd be making more than most lads his age but he's hardly popping bottles of Cristal every night. Makes it very hard to like him or want to support him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 16, 2017, 12:05:15 PM
Quote from: gallsman on March 15, 2017, 07:24:53 PM
Bellator rather than UFC but James "The Strabanimal" Gallagher put up an post on various social media sites today saying "don't judge my skills when i pay your social welfare" or something similar. This lad has been given a huge push, largely because he has modelled himself and his gimmick in McGregor and has looked distinctly average beating cans. He'd be making more than most lads his age but he's hardly popping bottles of Cristal every night. Makes it very hard to like him or want to support him.
I thought this boy was destined for big things many years ago  - there was a lot of local hype about him amoung the clubs but agree gallsman he has looked distinctly average against lesser opponents and is being milked by the promotion for his  "irishness". Agree to he's hard to like - he is trying hard to be a McGregor type persona but he comes across as hateful  -very few people around the local scene have much time for him as a result.
He could be great if he changed his attitude and trained harder - he's known for slacking off I've heard

Few watery UFC cards coming up but a couple of stacked cards ahead too  - hard to watch them all these days - I tend to me more selective now
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 16, 2017, 01:31:16 PM
Last weekend's was decent and a few of the upcoming PPVs look good on paper.

Vitor has finally realised it's time to call it quits.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on March 16, 2017, 01:52:17 PM
How can one watch Bellator?

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on June 12, 2017, 07:33:21 PM
Mayweather has booked MGM for Aug 26!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 12, 2017, 07:48:06 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on June 12, 2017, 07:33:21 PM
Mayweather has booked MGM for Aug 26!!

Wolf tickets. Nothing but wolf tickets.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DrinkingHarp on June 17, 2017, 08:45:18 PM
Matt Hughes

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/ufc-matt-hughes-truck-train-collision-429092373.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_CHBrand
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 23, 2017, 01:52:21 AM
https://sports.yahoo.com/jon-jones-tested-positive-steroids-following-ufc-214-fight-003645047.html

That should be the end of him now
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on August 23, 2017, 02:51:00 AM
Jones might be the most talented idiot sport has ever seen.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 23, 2017, 06:16:41 AM
In one way, nobody will be surprised. But really, for f**k's sake.

Quote from: Syferus on August 23, 2017, 02:51:00 AM
Jones might be the most talented idiot sport has ever seen.

Definitely. Complete moron.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: MoChara on August 23, 2017, 08:55:45 AM
Least it'd be an even playing field between him and Lesnar  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on August 23, 2017, 09:30:08 AM
Hopefully all a big mistake?

He sat at the post-fight press conference talking about how clean he was etc.

No way could he be that stupid?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 23, 2017, 09:37:41 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on August 23, 2017, 09:30:08 AM
Hopefully all a big mistake?

He sat at the post-fight press conference talking about how clean he was etc.

No way could he be that stupid?

They're saying he popped from a test after the weigh-in. Surely he couldn't go through a whole camp and test clean and then decide to take something after the weigh-in?! I know nothing about steroids, but is it possible to get an immediate boost like that?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on August 23, 2017, 02:18:04 PM
Quote from: gallsman on August 23, 2017, 09:37:41 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on August 23, 2017, 09:30:08 AM
Hopefully all a big mistake?

He sat at the post-fight press conference talking about how clean he was etc.

No way could he be that stupid?

They're saying he popped from a test after the weigh-in. Surely he couldn't go through a whole camp and test clean and then decide to take something after the weigh-in?! I know nothing about steroids, but is it possible to get an immediate boost like that?

Apparently it was some old-arse anabolic steroid popular in the 60s that takes weeks to have an effect.

Jones has long since used up any benefit of the doubt, though. Really feel for Daniel Cormier now, lad is a class act and has had his career dominated by this cheater's numerous fùck ups.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on August 23, 2017, 05:51:30 PM
an old steroid that takes weeks to take effect? what are you talking about?
you obviously know nothing about steroids.

there's two scenarios here:
he was sabotaged either by tainted meat (steroids are prevalent in meat) or a spiked something by someone trying to ruin his life/career
or
he was taking them throughout camp and masking it somehow or other but because of severe dehydration at the weigh in (he tested positive right after the weigh in) when his piss was pure and unfiltered he pissed positive...

The dehydration factor could account for it showing up from tainted meat also as there is less filtered or flushed piss - so anything in his system would show up however small

I've chatted to a NABBA bodybuilder on this and he openly takes steroids and has done for the 20+ years I've known him and I've asked him to explain the possibilities
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on August 23, 2017, 06:12:20 PM
I meant how long the effects stay in the system. Anecdotal evidence I've found suggests 5-6 weeks.

Yes, Turinabol is a very old steroid that the East Germans relied on heavily in the 60s and 70s. Apparently newer tests make some of the after effects identifiable a long time after a cycle has ended.

Jones is not only a cheat but a stupid cheat. This isn't the first time he's been caught doping, we should remember.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on August 25, 2017, 10:15:41 AM
Holy smoke... what a total legend!!!

Chris Eubank Sr. Heaps Poetic Praise Upon Conor McGregor  -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HerZ-jO_Cv0
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Subbie on August 25, 2017, 10:49:43 AM
Quote from: Medic on August 25, 2017, 10:15:41 AM
Holy smoke... what a total legend!!!

Chris Eubank Sr. Heaps Poetic Praise Upon Conor McGregor  -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HerZ-jO_Cv0

The bould Chris is an erudite aul divil so he is !
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 25, 2017, 03:26:34 PM
Legend? For heaping praise on McGregor? For reciting some poetry?

Eubank was a cracking boxer but he is a gobshite of the highest order. An egotistical bellend who is head over heels in love with himself.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: NAG1 on August 25, 2017, 03:51:25 PM
Quote from: gallsman on August 25, 2017, 03:26:34 PM
Legend? For heaping praise on McGregor? For reciting some poetry?

Eubank was a cracking boxer but he is a gobshite of the highest order. An egotistical bellend who is head over heels in love with himself.

But he is talking about McGregor and he is Irish so that makes Eubank a stand up guy  ;)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on August 29, 2017, 09:58:15 PM
Conor McGregor calls out Nate Diaz. But on his own terms https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwhktW8ZQ_I
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 03, 2017, 06:10:48 PM
No chat about GSP's return this weekend?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 04, 2017, 12:47:12 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on November 03, 2017, 06:10:48 PM
No chat about GSP's return this weekend?

It's been struggling to sell apparently but the card is fantastic.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 05, 2017, 01:55:37 AM
Duffy got dropped there
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 05, 2017, 05:04:19 AM
Remarkable night of fights and terrific stuff from GSP as he looked to be tiring. His first stoppage since 2009.

Bisping needs to retire.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on November 05, 2017, 02:09:42 PM

Great card overall. Delighted to see Cody caught - can't warm to him at all. Upsets in all three of the main fights.

Can't help wondering about about GSP's body transformation and how comfortable and powerful he was at the weight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 05, 2017, 02:51:43 PM
He's been out of the cage and training more or less flat out for years. He used to have to cut loads to make 170 too.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on November 05, 2017, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 05, 2017, 02:51:43 PM
He's been out of the cage and training more or less flat out for years. He used to have to cut loads to make 170 too.

Was he tied to any drugs testing during his 'retirement', though?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on November 06, 2017, 02:11:47 PM
I wouldn't suspect drugs - GSP cut to get to 170 - its not hard to fight at 185 and be in the shape he was in.
My concern was his fitness. Bisping is a high pace but GSP shouldn't have been tired so quickly. He remained active, he was training, he should have been in cardio vascular shape....
Whittaker will finish him quickly hes too big too strong and too hungry for GSP. Though he doesn't have the takedown defense of Michael... I think it will be a bad night for GSP. Look at what Hendricks did to gSP and then look at what happened to Johnny on Sat night when he fought a bigger man who cuts to make the limit...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: MoChara on November 06, 2017, 03:27:31 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on November 05, 2017, 02:09:42 PM

Great card overall. Delighted to see Cody caught - can't warm to him at all. Upsets in all three of the main fights.

Can't help wondering about about GSP's body transformation and how comfortable and powerful he was at the weight.

Wouldn't claim to know an awful lot about the personas in the UFC but your man Dillashaw seemed to be the arsehole of the two I thought.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 06, 2017, 03:43:39 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 06, 2017, 03:27:31 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on November 05, 2017, 02:09:42 PM

Great card overall. Delighted to see Cody caught - can't warm to him at all. Upsets in all three of the main fights.

Can't help wondering about about GSP's body transformation and how comfortable and powerful he was at the weight.

Wouldn't claim to know an awful lot about the personas in the UFC but your man Dillashaw seemed to be the arsehole of the two I thought.

TJ has taken a lot of shit over the last couple of years for his decision to change things up and move gyms (from Cody's). Had every right to be absolutely delighted with himself.

One of the great myths of MMA is that it's a team sport.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on November 07, 2017, 08:02:06 AM
Quote from: MoChara on November 06, 2017, 03:27:31 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on November 05, 2017, 02:09:42 PM

Great card overall. Delighted to see Cody caught - can't warm to him at all. Upsets in all three of the main fights.

Can't help wondering about about GSP's body transformation and how comfortable and powerful he was at the weight.

Wouldn't claim to know an awful lot about the personas in the UFC but your man Dillashaw seemed to be the arsehole of the two I thought.

From what I have saw of them in the build up Garbrandt seemed like a knob.  Was glad to see him lose, and in his post-fight interview he seemed to be in denial and is 100% sure he would win the rematch.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 07, 2017, 08:13:40 AM
See Joanna is claiming she didn't tap against Namajunas.  She was out of it anyway whether she tapped or not, but just sounds like sour grapes to me.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: MoChara on November 07, 2017, 08:43:09 AM
Quote from: gallsman on November 06, 2017, 03:43:39 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 06, 2017, 03:27:31 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on November 05, 2017, 02:09:42 PM

Great card overall. Delighted to see Cody caught - can't warm to him at all. Upsets in all three of the main fights.

Can't help wondering about about GSP's body transformation and how comfortable and powerful he was at the weight.

Wouldn't claim to know an awful lot about the personas in the UFC but your man Dillashaw seemed to be the arsehole of the two I thought.

TJ has taken a lot of shit over the last couple of years for his decision to change things up and move gyms (from Cody's). Had every right to be absolutely delighted with himself.

One of the great myths of MMA is that it's a team sport.

Heard the commentators saying something about he'd lost a lot of friends in the past year right enough, that'd explain it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 07, 2017, 04:41:56 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on November 07, 2017, 08:13:40 AM
See Joanna is claiming she didn't tap against Namajunas.  She was out of it anyway whether she tapped or not, but just sounds like sour grapes to me.

Her hand tapped the ground, that's for sure. Whether she submitted or not is a different matter. I didn't think so.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 07, 2017, 06:49:19 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 07, 2017, 04:41:56 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on November 07, 2017, 08:13:40 AM
See Joanna is claiming she didn't tap against Namajunas.  She was out of it anyway whether she tapped or not, but just sounds like sour grapes to me.

Her hand tapped the ground, that's for sure. Whether she submitted or not is a different matter. I didn't think so.

I was very surprised when I heard that she tapped as you almost never see anyone tapping due to strikes.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on November 08, 2017, 08:16:11 AM
It definitely looked like she tapped.  Good enough for her.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 10, 2017, 08:04:04 PM
McGregor leapt into the Bellator cage shortly after his mate Charlie Ward (badly knocked out in his two UFC fights) won his fight. Was turfed out by referee Marc Goddard who McGregor subsequently tried to confront bank in the cage. Absolute muppet.

In his mad rage to get at Goddard, McGregor ended up bundling over the fighter who had just been knocked out. He also slapped a Bellator official round the head whilst astride the cage.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on November 11, 2017, 08:25:23 AM
Had seen the video of McGregor coming into the ring and getting physical with the ref which was bad enough. Ewen  McKenna posted this on twitter. It's the aftermath where he comes back for more.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BbU9TTUhuNO/

It's a clear case of criminal assault. Not sure where this event was but the law should be pressing charges for that thuggish behavior. It's worrying to think how many young lads look up to this little pr!ck.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tubberman on November 11, 2017, 08:42:36 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on November 11, 2017, 08:25:23 AM
Had seen the video of McGregor coming into the ring and getting physical with the ref which was bad enough. Ewen  McKenna posted this on twitter. It's the aftermath where he comes back for more.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BbU9TTUhuNO/

It's a clear case of criminal assault. Not sure where this event was but the law should be pressing charges for that thuggish behavior. It's worrying to think how many young lads look up to this little pr!ck.

It was in Dublin. What a p***k - coked off his head I'd say.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on November 11, 2017, 03:45:15 PM
Quote from: Asal Mor on November 11, 2017, 08:25:23 AM
Had seen the video of McGregor coming into the ring and getting physical with the ref which was bad enough. Ewen  McKenna posted this on twitter. It's the aftermath where he comes back for more.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BbU9TTUhuNO/

It's a clear case of criminal assault. Not sure where this event was but the law should be pressing charges for that thuggish behavior. It's worrying to think how many young lads look up to this little pr!ck.

You getting on the high horse because McGregor gets a bit mouthy with a ref when you defend Ched Evans from rape is a little hard for some to get their heads around.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on November 11, 2017, 04:00:15 PM
If you can't get your head round the difference between "a bit mouthy" and throwing a punch at someone, there's no point in me trying to explain the justice system or that Ched was found not guilty on appeal for the precise reasons I argued he should be.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on November 13, 2017, 08:38:39 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on November 11, 2017, 04:00:15 PM
If you can't get your head round the difference between "a bit mouthy" and throwing a punch at someone, there's no point in me trying to explain the justice system or that Ched was found not guilty on appeal for the precise reasons I argued he should be.

I doubt he really threw a punch.  If he tried to I'm sure he would connect.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: HiMucker on November 13, 2017, 09:33:01 AM
Watched the Pettis Porrier fight yesterday. Super stuff, absolutely brutal.  Disappointing stoppage, don't know what happened to Pettis, may have cracked a rib, but don't think he could have taken much more.  Had to have lost at least a pint of blood.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on November 13, 2017, 09:50:15 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 13, 2017, 08:38:39 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on November 11, 2017, 04:00:15 PM
If you can't get your head round the difference between "a bit mouthy" and throwing a punch at someone, there's no point in me trying to explain the justice system or that Ched was found not guilty on appeal for the precise reasons I argued he should be.

I doubt he really threw a punch.  If he tried to I'm sure he would connect.

There's video evidence. . . he definitely threw a punch!

But sure we're just begrudgers who hate to see an Irishman with success. So what if he's a complete sc**bag he's our complete sc**bag so it's alright!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 13, 2017, 11:14:56 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on November 13, 2017, 09:33:01 AM
Watched the Pettis Porrier fight yesterday. Super stuff, absolutely brutal.  Disappointing stoppage, don't know what happened to Pettis, may have cracked a rib, but don't think he could have taken much more.  Had to have lost at least a pint of blood.

He looked completely spaced out for about 20 seconds before he tapped even though he wasn't locked in to any kind of choke or move or whatever.  He was basically just trying to get out of bottom position.

Think the blood loss and the lack of energy got to him and he couldn't go on.

Great scrap though.

What about that elbow finish from Matt Brown?  Deadly!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 13, 2017, 12:23:37 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 13, 2017, 08:38:39 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on November 11, 2017, 04:00:15 PM
If you can't get your head round the difference between "a bit mouthy" and throwing a punch at someone, there's no point in me trying to explain the justice system or that Ched was found not guilty on appeal for the precise reasons I argued he should be.

I doubt he really threw a punch.  If he tried to I'm sure he would connect.

There's very clear video footage.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: HiMucker on November 13, 2017, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on November 13, 2017, 11:14:56 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on November 13, 2017, 09:33:01 AM
Watched the Pettis Porrier fight yesterday. Super stuff, absolutely brutal.  Disappointing stoppage, don't know what happened to Pettis, may have cracked a rib, but don't think he could have taken much more.  Had to have lost at least a pint of blood.

He looked completely spaced out for about 20 seconds before he tapped even though he wasn't locked in to any kind of choke or move or whatever.  He was basically just trying to get out of bottom position.

Think the blood loss and the lack of energy got to him and he couldn't go on.

Great scrap though.

What about that elbow finish from Matt Brown?  Deadly!
Brilliant, completely poleaxed him with it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: thebigfella on November 13, 2017, 12:53:29 PM
Seen a few videos there of McGregor after. Looks off his nut on something tbh.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 13, 2017, 01:13:02 PM
The Matt Brown elbow looked to me to be behind the ear.
Is the ear not as far back as you can strike someone on the head?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Boycey on November 13, 2017, 05:25:40 PM
I see Conor is still 'in good spirits' today, ahem ::)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 13, 2017, 05:33:19 PM
The Brown elbow was absolutely savage, but more to the point, Diego Sanchez should have retired years ago (Brown too in fairness) and somebody needs to stop him from his own bravery/stupidity.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 25, 2017, 02:01:25 PM
Bisping KOed badly less than three weeks after getting badly hurt and strangled by GSP.

Absolutely disgraceful decision not to protect him from his own bravery/stupidity.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 27, 2017, 09:09:11 PM
Some rumours doing the rounds on social media of Conor beating up some lad in a pub in Crumlin last night
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on November 27, 2017, 09:36:03 PM
Less dodgy would be Manny Paq angling for a big money match with McGregor. The lad is the biggest draw in boxing after one fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 27, 2017, 09:48:50 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on November 27, 2017, 09:09:11 PM
Some rumours doing the rounds on social media of Conor beating up some lad in a pub in Crumlin last night

The rumours don't end there. The lad he allegedly smacked us supposedly "connect"
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on November 28, 2017, 12:13:08 AM
Quote from: gallsman on November 27, 2017, 09:48:50 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on November 27, 2017, 09:09:11 PM
Some rumours doing the rounds on social media of Conor beating up some lad in a pub in Crumlin last night

The rumours don't end there. The lad he allegedly smacked us supposedly "connect"

Was always going to end in a blaze of fire for McGregor!! All this nonsense about it being a show and only business was hilarious... he's proven time and time again he's got no class I'm sure we'll hear more about this over the next few days.

MacKenna is well happy with himself!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Don Johnson on November 28, 2017, 11:05:36 AM
Got a few voice notes on whatsapp this morning about the whole thing. He's supposedly hit a fella Whelan who is well connected. Loada names going about including some fella Byrne related to someone who died at the Regency. Nuts altogether.

Get the popcorn out anyway.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on November 28, 2017, 11:40:52 AM
Time to move to LA
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GetOverTheBar on November 28, 2017, 01:38:38 PM
Presumably if McGregor is in Ireland, USADA can't get at him to test him?

Jon Jones II....or III, i suppose coming up here.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on November 28, 2017, 02:00:22 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on November 28, 2017, 01:38:38 PM
Presumably if McGregor is in Ireland, USADA can't get at him to test him?

Jon Jones II....or III, i suppose coming up here.

That ain't how it works. What sort of six degrees of Kevin Bacon did you use to get to performance-enhancing drugs out of all this?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on November 28, 2017, 02:04:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 28, 2017, 02:00:22 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on November 28, 2017, 01:38:38 PM
Presumably if McGregor is in Ireland, USADA can't get at him to test him?

Jon Jones II....or III, i suppose coming up here.

That ain't how it works. What sort of six degrees of Kevin Bacon did you use to get to performance-enhancing drugs out of all this?

I think the general consensus online is that recreational drugs more so than the performance enhancing kind were allegedly involved in the Crumlin incident!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GetOverTheBar on November 28, 2017, 02:14:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 28, 2017, 02:00:22 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on November 28, 2017, 01:38:38 PM
Presumably if McGregor is in Ireland, USADA can't get at him to test him?

Jon Jones II....or III, i suppose coming up here.

That ain't how it works. What sort of six degrees of Kevin Bacon did you use to get to performance-enhancing drugs out of all this?

Cocaine is a stimulant, banned by USADA.

While I don't believe it's actually tested for 'out of competition'. The line is thin, very thin.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on November 28, 2017, 03:26:05 PM
Where do people get the drugs link from anyway?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Don Johnson on November 28, 2017, 03:36:39 PM
Tony McGregor is on his way to Dubai to sort a protection deal with Christy Kinahan lads, don't worry.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Don Johnson on November 28, 2017, 03:37:02 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 28, 2017, 03:26:05 PM
Where do people get the drugs link from anyway?

Loads of videos and rumours going about now for years with him off his face.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on November 29, 2017, 09:48:23 AM
More rumours this morning about McGregor i see. Talk that he has gotten some girl in Liverpool pregnant. Could of course be bullshit but it does seem that things are starting to spiral for him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Minder on November 29, 2017, 12:22:45 PM
So McGregor has turned out to be a bit of a kn**ker, didn't see this coming......
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Don Johnson on November 29, 2017, 01:49:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 29, 2017, 12:22:45 PM
So McGregor has turned out to be a bit of a kn**ker, didn't see this coming......

kn**ker? He's living the dream ya mad man!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on November 29, 2017, 02:21:49 PM
Never saw any videos of him doing drugs, plus I suppose I may believe every story or rumour that pops up about him as they must be true.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on November 29, 2017, 04:03:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 29, 2017, 12:22:45 PM
So McGregor has turned out to be a bit of a kn**ker, didn't see this coming......
The suprise is that anyone is surprised.
A friend of ours is related to his Mrs. I'm not shocked about some of things coming out about him as I've heard a few stories from our friend months ago.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on November 29, 2017, 04:15:50 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 29, 2017, 09:48:23 AM
More rumours this morning about McGregor i see. Talk that he has gotten some girl in Liverpool pregnant. Could of course be bullshit but it does seem that things are starting to spiral for him.

A lot of the rumours in this thread tend to be bullshít, period.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 30, 2017, 01:14:39 PM
His da has come out and said the stories are 95% nonsense and the other 5% exaggerated.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: yellowcard on November 30, 2017, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on November 30, 2017, 01:14:39 PM
His da has come out and said the stories are 95% nonsense and the other 5% exaggerated.

Matter closed then , nothing to see here!

All the money in the world can't prepare you for the fame notoriety and hangers on that McGregor encounters. He appears as though he is not equipped to handle the change in lifestyle and sudden accumulation of wealth. I hope I'm wrong but I fear that this is going to end badly for McGregor if he doesn't get the right people around him to try and keep a handle on the excesses of his lifestyle.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on November 30, 2017, 02:39:30 PM
Leaving court there like he was the General
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on November 30, 2017, 03:58:09 PM
The most insulting thing for him must have been having to pay a €400 fine in instalments.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Boycey on November 30, 2017, 04:09:58 PM
It looked to me like he was speeding on his way out, Jesus he's getting tiresome at this stage.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: square_ball on November 30, 2017, 04:11:20 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 30, 2017, 02:39:30 PM
Leaving court there like he was the General

The state of his mate in the beige tracksuit too. Mcgregor puts the hood up so of course he has to copy him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 30, 2017, 05:52:41 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 30, 2017, 04:11:20 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 30, 2017, 02:39:30 PM
Leaving court there like he was the General

The state of his mate in the beige tracksuit too. Mcgregor puts the hood up so of course he has to copy him.

That's his mate Charlie Ward. An absolute bum of a martial artist that McGregor got two fights in the UFC. He was knocked out badly both times, the second time KOing himself after getting thrown to the ground. He's the same lad who won the fight a few weeks ago when McGregor jumped the cage.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Don Johnson on November 30, 2017, 10:46:03 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 30, 2017, 03:58:09 PM
The most insulting thing for him must have been having to pay a €400 fine in instalments.

He doesn't have to pay it in instalments you weapon. He was offered the chance to.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 01, 2017, 06:55:54 AM
Here's an article setting McGregor's "links": https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/11/30/16719816/conor-mcgregor-irish-gangsters-kinahan-cartel-feature-karim-zidan-mma-ufc-pub-brawl?utm_campaign=zidansports&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: MoChara on December 03, 2017, 09:55:03 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on December 01, 2017, 06:55:54 AM
Here's an article setting McGregor's "links": https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/11/30/16719816/conor-mcgregor-irish-gangsters-kinahan-cartel-feature-karim-zidan-mma-ufc-pub-brawl?utm_campaign=zidansports&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

If Paul Williams said he did it I believe McGregor probably wasn't even in the bar that night.

No chat about 218? some good rows in it
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: HiMucker on December 03, 2017, 10:24:34 PM
Ngannous  ko was unreal.  Animal.

Would there be any chance mcgregor would step back down to featherweight at any stage?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 03, 2017, 10:30:09 PM
No chance of him ever going to FW. He's the draw - if Holloway wants the fight, it'll be at 155.

Ngannou is an absolute Savage. Think he'll run through Stipe as well.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on December 04, 2017, 08:12:34 AM
That was a great card at the weekend.  Some really good fights.

Ngannou could be a champ for the foreseeable.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: HiMucker on December 04, 2017, 09:27:49 AM
Forgot to mention Eddie Alvarez's superb KO with the knee.  Great scrap , but both men looked completely gassed.  Good pace to the fight but was surprised to see them so knackered.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 04, 2017, 09:49:21 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on December 04, 2017, 09:27:49 AM
Forgot to mention Eddie Alvarez's superb KO with the knee.  Great scrap , but both men looked completely gassed.  Good pace to the fight but was surprised to see them so knackered.

Try going at the pace they were going at and not be exhausted. Brilliant fight, as expected.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 04, 2017, 10:08:01 AM
I wrote this on Page 77 of this thread 51 weeks ago:

"I've only started watching UFC recently, but the French light heavyweight, Francis N'gannou who fought at UFC Albany looked pretty special."

He is a monster.

It was a great card alright.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: MoChara on December 04, 2017, 10:10:35 AM
Alvarez's face didn't look right must have broke his cheek bone or something, serious knee for the win alright though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on December 04, 2017, 10:41:52 AM
Quote from: MoChara on December 04, 2017, 10:10:35 AM
Alvarez's face didn't look right must have broke his cheek bone or something, serious knee for the win alright though.
Was a brilliant fight. Very unusual swelling that Alvarez had alright! Kinda reminds you had good McGregor is (if he ever gets back to it) when you remember how easily he dismantled Alvarez.

Ngannou is a monster. But Miocic won't make it easy for him. That'll be a great fight to look forward to. I've never seen a knocked out guy go as stiff as a board like Overeem! I was fearing the worst for a few seconds.

I thought Holloway was exceptional. Don't think there's anyone in 145 that can touch him. Although apparently he struggled to make weight this time, so maybe at 24 he won't be fighting 145 for too much longer. I reckon he'll be 155 by 2019 if not earlier. With Ferguson, Khabib, Diaz and (in a year or two) Holloway there are a lot of potential great fights for McGregor if he does come back. I'd love to see Diaz fight someone other than McGregor, but it seems he's holding out for just Conor.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: HiMucker on December 04, 2017, 11:38:27 AM
Quote from: gallsman on December 04, 2017, 09:49:21 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on December 04, 2017, 09:27:49 AM
Forgot to mention Eddie Alvarez's superb KO with the knee.  Great scrap , but both men looked completely gassed.  Good pace to the fight but was surprised to see them so knackered.

Try going at the pace they were going at and not be exhausted. Brilliant fight, as expected.
Nah your alright, Ill just watch them boys try and do it :)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 04, 2017, 01:33:00 PM
Cowboy Oliveira and Medeiros was some scrap.  An all out war.  I was laughing at how ridiculously good it was. Couldn't believe either of them were still standing...
Enjoyed the whole card. Alvarez' boxing was great. Those body shots took their toll.  Justin could make adjustments and come back better. It's his first loss.  I think CMG was in Alvarez' head andhe wasn't able to fight like he could. But it's all part of the fight -the mental side too....

So what's your definition of a good fight. Eddie said after the win that the fans dont care about titles - they care about violence. Is that true for you? I thought about it a lot...boxing, mma...all the fights we remember as great fights...was it because of sheer violence? Technical skill? Both?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on December 04, 2017, 01:41:31 PM
The Cowboy Mediros fight was fight of the night for me, although I'm sure Alvarez will pick up that bonus.

When I first started really watching MMA I was more interested in the stand-up, bloody wars, but as I started learning more about the technical aspects and finishes etc I've moved away from that and can appreciate the ground work a bit more.

So somewhere in the middle would be my ideal fight.  Bit of boxing, bit of clinch-work, some groundwork.  That's ideal for me rather than just one extreme or the other.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on December 04, 2017, 04:40:27 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on December 04, 2017, 01:41:31 PM
The Cowboy Mediros fight was fight of the night for me, although I'm sure Alvarez will pick up that bonus.

All 4 guys got the $50k Fight of the Night bonus.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on December 05, 2017, 08:32:25 AM
Nice one!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GetOverTheBar on December 05, 2017, 03:07:46 PM
GSP out indefinitely with colitis, can't say I know too much about the condition but big blow for him and his return.

Can only see him coming back at catch weight really though going forward.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 31, 2017, 04:06:41 PM
Khabib was pretty awesome (as usual) last night.

Hopefully with his weight now in order he can fit a bit more regularly than he has managed in the past.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 31, 2017, 09:38:31 PM
He's an absolute animal. Dominant on the ground and took some big shots as well. Walked right through a full speed wheel kick at one stage.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: HiMucker on January 01, 2018, 01:24:42 PM
Just watched  the Khabib fight.  Honestly have never seen anything like that.  The pressure, stamina , ground and pound, all absolutely incredible.  He made barboza look like an amateur.  You felt that sorry for him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 19, 2018, 10:48:11 PM
Ferguson-Khabib is official for the Lightweight Championship at UFC 223 on April 7th. Dana has just said that it will be the undisputed championship and Ferguson was introduced as the "UFC Lightweight Champion". He deliberately refused to confirm if McGregor had been stripped but said all would be clear soon. Suspect they'll pull a fast one and move McGregor to "Super Champion" or "Champion Emeritus" a la boxing.

Thug Rose - Joanna 2 also going to be on the same card.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 20, 2018, 08:24:47 AM
My broadband is down (and I am using a slow mobile device at the moment), so it means that streaming is very slow / impossible.

Could any of you fellas tell me the best place to download tonight's card tomorrow morning? I am thinking that even if it takes a longer time to d/l at least I will then watch it without buffering.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 21, 2018, 09:55:17 AM
Brilliant performances by both Stipe and DC.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 21, 2018, 11:00:47 AM
Ffs, I forgot about this bellend.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 26, 2018, 11:21:16 PM
Holy shit!!!!  :o :o :o :o

Miocic vs Cormier for the HW title at UFC 226
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 27, 2018, 12:22:13 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 26, 2018, 11:21:16 PM
Holy shit!!!!  :o :o :o :o

Miocic vs Cormier for the HW title at UFC 226

Have just seen this. Unbelievable if it happens. Chat of three champion Vs champion fights at 226. DC Vs Stipe, Mighty Mouse Vs TJ and Cyborg Vs Nunes. Make it happen.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on January 27, 2018, 01:12:38 AM
To me it reads like the UFC is running out of ideas and out of stars.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 27, 2018, 09:39:00 AM
Quote from: Syferus on January 27, 2018, 01:12:38 AM
To me it reads like the UFC is running out of ideas and out of stars.

That's definitely the case. Doesn't mean it's not a good idea. DC absolutely ragdolled some all time great heavyweights in his time there.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 17, 2018, 07:44:16 PM
Just watching UFC London's prelims.

Paul Craig (Scottish Light Heavyweight) lost every round.  He got a triangle right at the end and his Russian opponent tapped out at 4mins 59secs of the final round!!!

Never seen an ending like that before.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 17, 2018, 07:46:41 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on March 17, 2018, 07:44:16 PM
Just watching UFC London's prelims.

Paul Craig (Scottish Light Heavyweight) lost every round.  He got a triangle right at the end and his Russian opponent tapped out at 4mins 59secs of the final round!!!

Never seen an ending like that before.

Julio Cesar Chavez Vs Meldrick Taylor in boxing.

Not quite as late either but Anderson Silva was clearly losing by a distance in the first Sonnen fight when he caught him in a triangle.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 17, 2018, 09:39:23 PM
And Leon Edwards stopped his opponent at 4mins 59secs of the final round as well!!

2 finishes on the one card in the last second.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 17, 2018, 10:09:31 PM
Two unimpressive showings in a row from Firekid Duquesnoy. Not sure he's going to make it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 17, 2018, 10:11:46 PM
Quote from: gallsman on March 17, 2018, 10:09:31 PM
Two unimpressive showings in a row from Firekid Duquesnoy. Not sure he's going to make it.

How did he get that decision?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 17, 2018, 10:14:08 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on March 17, 2018, 10:11:46 PM
Quote from: gallsman on March 17, 2018, 10:09:31 PM
Two unimpressive showings in a row from Firekid Duquesnoy. Not sure he's going to make it.

How did he get that decision?

It was absolutely the right decision.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 02, 2018, 12:44:06 AM
Ferguson is out of the fight next weekend - Max Holloway steps in

https://twitter.com/danawhite/status/980577727882387466
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bennydorano on April 02, 2018, 08:40:57 AM
What's the story with McGregor?  It is a powerplay staying away?  A genuine break? Gone from UFC? I heard something of a Mayweather rematch and thought no way people are falling for that a 2nd time.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 02, 2018, 09:05:58 AM
Four years in a row that fight has been scheduled only to fall through. Freak accident too.

Holloway stepping up though is absolutely huge. As brilliant as he is, I'd fancy Khabeeb to absolutely rag doll him all night.

Interestingly, with McGregor as champion and Ferguson as interim champion, Dana has said this fight is for the lightweight title. The joke just keeps going.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on April 02, 2018, 12:19:00 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 02, 2018, 08:40:57 AM
What's the story with McGregor?  It is a powerplay staying away?  A genuine break? Gone from UFC? I heard something of a Mayweather rematch and thought no way people are falling for that a 2nd time.

Be alot of interest in a rematch in the octagon.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bennydorano on April 02, 2018, 01:10:28 PM
No way, Egotistical and all as Mayweather is he's bound to realise he'd be murdered - in a lot less safer environment than the boxing ring.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 02, 2018, 01:19:16 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 02, 2018, 01:10:28 PM
No way, Egotistical and all as Mayweather is he's bound to realise he'd be murdered - in a lot less safer environment than the boxing ring.
Hard to point to  a murder when you think about the skillsets.
CMG isn't a wrestler and isn't known for his takedowns.  When Boxers have tried MMA they have been beaten by elite wrestlers.
CMG has a similar ego and would want to stand with FMW for a while. I'd be interested in seeing that.
FMW is an athlete and all he would need would be a good sprawl to avoid CMG's amateurish takedown attempts. He also would have decent power with smaller gloves on and could catch CMG.  Makes it all very interesting for me.

For reference watch Ray Mercer versus Tim Sylvia. Standup MMA fighter versus Boxer. (granted Silva was done at that point) When you remove takedowns from the fight it's a different story....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bennydorano on April 02, 2018, 01:45:32 PM
Really, I cant see anything else other than a playful string it along McGregor win if it were to happen. What springs to my mind is International Rules with he Aussies,  a GAA match wouldn't be as comprehensively one sided as an Aussie Rules game.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 02, 2018, 01:55:53 PM
Wasn't there a no grappling gentleman's agreement between Mercer and Sylvia?

McGregor would leg him once or throw a teep square into his stomach and Floyd wouldn't know what the hell was going on.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on April 02, 2018, 02:04:41 PM
McGregor is not a world class wrestler or BJJ exponent but he has plenty of skills in these disciplines as they have been part of his training for years. McGregor can also add in his kicking ability to the equation.
These skills alone would be enough to win the contest as Mayweather would be a novice at trying to defend against this. The flip side is that if the fight can be kept upright then Mayweathers speed and power could end it just as easily. Plus, Mayweather has said he is planning to train for 6 months on Octagon with Woodley. The result wont affect his boxing legacy either.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 05, 2018, 07:43:45 PM
Conor losing the plot at the UFC223 presser - he's been arrested now according to reports

https://deadspin.com/conor-mcgregor-crashes-ufc-223-presser-throws-barricad-1825020737
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 05, 2018, 07:57:14 PM
he has lost the plot altogether - or they are all part of a big script to gain attention for McGregor v Khabib in Russia in September
The money and notoriety has gone to his head - I've been following him since his amateur days and he said some rare things back then but this behaviour is way over the line... embarassing
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 05, 2018, 08:26:55 PM
He's a complete dick.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 05, 2018, 08:45:37 PM
Quote@bokamotoESPN

Dana White said warrant is out for Conor McGregor's arrest. His plane can't leave New York.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: yellowcard on April 05, 2018, 08:46:21 PM
I've always had a feeling that this will end badly, he is simply not equipped to handle the fame and has gone completely off the rails.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Don Johnson on April 05, 2018, 08:46:41 PM
This is WWE-esque script writing, fair play.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 05, 2018, 08:52:03 PM
Lobov has already been cut from the card and the Maclife guys have had their credentials revoked. Good few careers ruined this afternoon.

I see Charlie Ward was there. Surprised he didn't knock himself out amidst the chaos.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on April 05, 2018, 09:09:16 PM
Hardly surprising he's a complete sc**bag!!

People tried to say he was cultivating this image as if he's some kind of shrewd businessman and it's all an act??

Word is he isn't arrested but he should be and banned! He's a total irrelevance now!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: MoChara on April 05, 2018, 09:14:31 PM
Quote from: Don Johnson on April 05, 2018, 08:46:41 PM
This is WWE-esque script writing, fair play.

Reminds me of the cut scenes of Austin chasing Vinny Mac in the limo.

Maybe coincidence but wrestlemania is on this weekend as well as the UFC
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: tonto1888 on April 05, 2018, 09:36:34 PM
Quote from: screenexile on April 05, 2018, 09:09:16 PM
Hardly surprising he's a complete sc**bag!!

People tried to say he was cultivating this image as if he's some kind of shrewd businessman and it's all an act??

Word is he isn't arrested but he should be and banned! He's a total irrelevance now!

Whatever else he may be he isn't an irrelevance
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on April 05, 2018, 09:39:40 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on April 05, 2018, 09:36:34 PM
Quote from: screenexile on April 05, 2018, 09:09:16 PM
Hardly surprising he's a complete sc**bag!!

People tried to say he was cultivating this image as if he's some kind of shrewd businessman and it's all an act??

Word is he isn't arrested but he should be and banned! He's a total irrelevance now!

Whatever else he may be he isn't an irrelevance

He hasn't had a fight in a year and a half!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Don Johnson on April 05, 2018, 09:43:27 PM
Yet anything he does is still bigger news than any other UFC fighter who has fought in the last year and a half.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 05, 2018, 10:15:22 PM
Are people under the impression that this is somehow a good thing, that he's in the news for acting the maggot rather than actually fighting?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Taylor on April 05, 2018, 10:17:36 PM
He is a kn**ker and a sc**bag, even a complete dick but he certainly isn't irrelevant.

Garners more column inches than any other fighter in UFC and no matter what, Dana needs him more than he needs Dana.

This UFC card has went from being just another one to one that will get massive attention and therefore will now get $$$$$$ which it would never have got otherwise especially as punters were unlikely to pay for Wrestlemania and UFC in same weekend
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 05, 2018, 10:19:23 PM
Quote from: Taylor on April 05, 2018, 10:17:36 PMThis UFC card has went from being just another one to one that will get massive attention and therefore will now get $$$$$$ which it would never have got otherwise especially as punters were unlikely to pay for Wrestlemania and UFC in same weekend

No it wont
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 05, 2018, 10:44:26 PM
ANte Diaz has an interesting slant on it... in plain english

Khabib cornered Conor's friend Artem with a group of lads like a bully. What do you expect Conor and his group of lads would do when they arrived.
And then the bully hid on the bus and got bullied himself....

We look at these things sometimes through different lenses.  The Diaz brothers and their "crew" fight outside the cage all the time. Honour and loyalth are everything.  McGregor and the SBG boys are the same. Stockton is very much like Crumlin maybe in the mentality of the people?

I'm not excusing the behavioour in any way - but maybe Diaz isn't far off the mark...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 05, 2018, 11:09:32 PM
The Khabib / Artem thing happened a few days ago - https://www.facebook.com/mma247official/videos/1523926604386977
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 05, 2018, 11:12:49 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on April 05, 2018, 11:09:32 PM
The Khabib / Artem thing happened a few days ago - https://www.facebook.com/mma247official/videos/1523926604386977
When Artem was solo and McGregor's gang wasn't in town.... kind of makes sense on their level Gabe?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 05, 2018, 11:19:00 PM
I don't know who is who in that video - but doesn't look like he's by himself.



Absolutely no-one comes out of this looking good at all
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 06, 2018, 03:49:16 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on April 05, 2018, 11:19:00 PM
I don't know who is who in that video - but doesn't look like he's by himself.



Absolutely no-one comes out of this looking good at all
According to wee Davy Thompson on Twitter  it was a load of Everton fans with him!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 06, 2018, 07:08:21 AM
3 of this weekend's fights are off:

Lobov pulled from the card by UFC
Chiesa injured by shattered glass
Borg got glass in his eyes


That's quite the outcome of McGregor's actions
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on April 06, 2018, 07:19:35 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on April 06, 2018, 03:49:16 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on April 05, 2018, 11:19:00 PM
I don't know who is who in that video - but doesn't look like he's by himself.



Absolutely no-one comes out of this looking good at all
According to wee Davy Thompson on Twitter  it was a load of Everton fans with him!

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 06, 2018, 08:01:39 AM
Found it interesting that a fellow UFC fighter would, off the bat, say "Lol of course he's on drugs!! McGregor so coked out of his mind he probably don't even know where he is right now"

https://twitter.com/JamesVickMMA/status/981988259881463808
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on April 06, 2018, 08:24:50 AM
Quote from: laoislad on April 06, 2018, 07:19:35 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on April 06, 2018, 03:49:16 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on April 05, 2018, 11:19:00 PM
I don't know who is who in that video - but doesn't look like he's by himself.



Absolutely no-one comes out of this looking good at all
According to wee Davy Thompson on Twitter  it was a load of Everton fans with him!

;D ;D ;D

;D ;D

And him a UFC ambassador too!!
Radio NewYorkside have banned him for the year
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 06, 2018, 08:46:02 AM
The usual SBG numbskull lackeys were there. Charlie Ward, Cian Cowley etc. I'm impressed Ward managed to get through the thing without knocking himself out.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Taylor on April 06, 2018, 09:10:11 AM
McGregor has been charged with assault and criminal mischief. To appear in court later today
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 06, 2018, 09:11:18 AM
If he was charged with assault, would a relatively small misdemeanour like that mean that he would be unlikely to obtain a US visa again?
Or is that just a myth?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on April 06, 2018, 09:22:17 AM
Was looking forward to the Chiesa/Pettis fight too.

Still think there's an element of scripting in the whole thing for a Super-Fight in Russia (assuming Khabib wins on Saturday).

"If he dies...he dies."
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 06, 2018, 09:22:42 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on April 06, 2018, 09:11:18 AM
If he was charged with assault, would a relatively small misdemeanour like that mean that he would be unlikely to obtain a US visa again?
Or is that just a myth?

Would have to be convicted first but in theory it could absolutely screw him. Being famous and having money always helps though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RedHand88 on April 06, 2018, 09:43:31 AM
What a fantastic ambassador for Irish sport. How McClean beat him to the award Ill never know.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on April 06, 2018, 12:28:18 PM
If it isn't a stunt I hope UFC sue the shit out of him!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 06, 2018, 12:41:38 PM
Dana not happy - https://www.facebook.com/officialmmajunkie/videos/1665729376807542/
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 06, 2018, 02:51:43 PM
Initial reports saying that Max Holloway out of the fight tomorrow night.

I guess that means that Conor is still the champ?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on April 06, 2018, 02:54:33 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on April 06, 2018, 02:51:43 PM
Initial reports saying that Max Holloway out of the fight tomorrow night.

I guess that means that Conor is still the champ?

No way man.  Where'd you hear this?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GetOverTheBar on April 06, 2018, 02:56:36 PM
Ariel Helwani has just tweeted he's out of the fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 06, 2018, 02:57:09 PM
Just cancel the card

Quote@bokamotoESPN

BREAKING: Max Holloway has been declared medically unfit to fight. Holloway is out of UFC 223. Per Dana White.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 06, 2018, 02:57:49 PM
Weigh in with (Aeriel commentary) is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQbmoyS0nFw

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on April 06, 2018, 02:59:53 PM
Absolutely gutted.  This went from a great card to a shit show in 24 hours.

They'll throw another bum in against Khabib no doubt, setting up the Russia fight with McGregor in September.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 06, 2018, 03:13:40 PM
Trying to get Pettis to replace Holloway now

https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/982257339553071105
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 06, 2018, 03:50:17 PM
(https://media.tmz.com/2018/04/06/040618-conor-mcgregor-primary-3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 06, 2018, 03:51:27 PM
That's a bit OTT. Do they have to handcuff him in public like that? This is all some sort of grand hype show isn't it?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bennydorano on April 06, 2018, 04:02:37 PM
Likely requested it
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on April 06, 2018, 04:36:21 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 06, 2018, 03:51:27 PM
That's a bit OTT. Do they have to handcuff him in public like that? This is all some sort of grand hype show isn't it?

US justice have a huge hard-on for the perp walk. Particularly when it's someone famous.

Dana White can protest all he wants but he knows the UFC was struggling to attract attention and he will be promoting McGregor's next fight soon enough. Lost in this is that Max Holloway is medically unfit so the UFC 223 main event was going to be pulled yet again regardless.

If it wasn't for the unrelated fighters getting injured it would have ended up being a bit of pro wrestling-esque stuff. McGregor should just fight the lightweight fighter Chiesa next in lieu of being sued by him. Best for all parties.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 06, 2018, 07:33:39 PM
Pettis asked for more money and was denied and has now dropped out.
Paul the Irish dragon Felder has been offered the fight but the commission has not agreed to it

They'll have to make this a free card
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 06, 2018, 07:35:47 PM
I ask it again; how many top class fighters has mcprick ever thought? 1? Had done nothing but dodge top level fighters and will likely be beat next time out!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on April 06, 2018, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 06, 2018, 07:35:47 PM
I ask it again; how many top class fighters has mcprick ever thought? 1? Had done nothing but dodge top level fighters and will likely be beat next time out!!

He's won two titles and he only fought one top class fighter?

You don't like him and that's fine but this incessant need to belittle some fantastic accomplishments says more about you and your kin than it does about McGregor. He gets more abuse on this forum than Paddy Jackson.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 06, 2018, 08:01:02 PM
Again how many no 1 rated fighters has he fought at his weight levels?? Diaz if i remember right was only rated at no-5
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 06, 2018, 08:19:24 PM
who has Khabib fought ranked #1?
Eddie Alvarez was the champ when he beat him is the #1 enough?
Jose Aldo was the champ when he beat him how about that?
Chad Mendes fought the champ twice and was the #1 contender...
Diaz when he is healthy can beat anyone and those two fights were great regardless of who won....

if you're questioning his skill set or his record you are ill-informed
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 06, 2018, 08:27:48 PM
Iceman, I assume the chances of UFC cutting Conor would be petty slim (regardless of all Dana's hand wringing)?

Imagine how big Khabib v Conor would be now.  Biggest PPV numbers ever for UFC?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 06, 2018, 08:43:56 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on April 06, 2018, 08:27:48 PM
Iceman, I assume the chances of UFC cutting Conor would be petty slim (regardless of all Dana's hand wringing)?

Imagine how big Khabib v Conor would be now.  Biggest PPV numbers ever for UFC?
outside of CMG versus FMW in the cage - Khabib v Conor in Russia or anywhere is the biggest fight they can make
huge PPV numbers - hug stadium somewhere - big gate - hottest ticket in town type of thing
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Therealdonald on April 06, 2018, 08:57:24 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 06, 2018, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 06, 2018, 07:35:47 PM
I ask it again; how many top class fighters has mcprick ever thought? 1? Had done nothing but dodge top level fighters and will likely be beat next time out!!

He's won two titles and he only fought one top class fighter?

You don't like him and that's fine but this incessant need to belittle some fantastic accomplishments says more about you and your kin than it does about McGregor. He gets more abuse on this forum than Paddy Jackson.

Compare McGregor's outbursts, use of racist language, contempt of the law (speeding and now this) with Paddy Jackson who was found not guilty. So if anything Paddy Jackson should get an apology on this board, with your name Syf being the top signature.

McGregor is and was a complete sc**bag. Can dress it up how you like, but facts and actions don't lie.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 06, 2018, 09:19:01 PM
...... and Khabib fights Iaquinta tomorrow night
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on April 06, 2018, 09:33:30 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on April 06, 2018, 08:43:56 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on April 06, 2018, 08:27:48 PM
Iceman, I assume the chances of UFC cutting Conor would be petty slim (regardless of all Dana's hand wringing)?

Imagine how big Khabib v Conor would be now.  Biggest PPV numbers ever for UFC?
outside of CMG versus FMW in the cage - Khabib v Conor in Russia or anywhere is the biggest fight they can make
huge PPV numbers - hug stadium somewhere - big gate - hottest ticket in town type of thing

McGregor versus some barely known Russian (in the non-anorak world) would not be a bigger draw than McGregor-Diaz 3, McGregor-Nick Diaz or McGregor-GSP.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 06, 2018, 09:53:50 PM
on the global stage Khabib is much more popular than Diaz. If you follow other fight promotions like KSW you'll see they fill 50,000 seater stadiums in Poland and other eastern european countries. Khabib is the GSP of that market. He's a huge name.

With the mainstream media attention for CMG over this incident more and more casual fans will know who he is.  It's the biggest fight outside of FMW right now.
Throw someone like Brock Lesnar on the card -they'll all want a piece of the MCGreogr PPV pie and we're in for a huge night.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on April 06, 2018, 09:57:33 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on April 06, 2018, 09:53:50 PM
on the global stage Khabib is much more popular than Diaz. If you follow other fight promotions like KSW you'll see they fill 50,000 seater stadiums in Poland and other eastern european countries. Khabib is the GSP of that market. He's a huge name.

With the mainstream media attention for CMG over this incident more and more casual fans will know who he is.  It's the biggest fight outside of FMW right now.
Throw someone like Brock Lesnar on the card -they'll all want a piece of the MCGreogr PPV pie and we're in for a huge night.

They can fill out whatever the like, the money just isn't in the sport over there. Just like boxing, the big money fights happen in the west and involve western or western-based fighters.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 06, 2018, 10:05:18 PM
then he fights in the west. you dont think muslim americans will embrace Khabib?
they'll make a big card and it will sell

like i said, outside of FMW its the biggest fight they can make
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on April 06, 2018, 10:12:14 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on April 06, 2018, 10:05:18 PM
then he fights in the west. you dont think muslim americans will embrace Khabib?
they'll make a big card and it will sell

like i said, outside of FMW its the biggest fight they can make

And as I said, you're very foolish to think it's bigger than McGregor-GSP or McGregor-Diaz 3. Maybe this nonsense will raise the Russian's profile but he's been a side note in this story.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 06, 2018, 10:27:54 PM
The Diaz trilogy fight or a GSP fight are both far bigger than a Khabib fight, albeit not for the "sporting" reasons.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 08, 2018, 02:39:15 PM
I think the cork camogie goalie would be a good fit for the ufc after that tackle on the incoming kilkenny attacker!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gmac on April 08, 2018, 03:27:27 PM
Bit strange  why khabib went away from mauling the guy to death in rounds 3-4 and stood toe to toe with him, if he fights Conor the Ppv sales will be on Conor again Because that style khabib has is not very sellable. Conor's problem is he made 100m last time out so how does he Come back down to 10-15 for his next fight  , I would say he wants to fight he craves the attention of the build up and all that goes with it but thinks the pay day is too small for him now , be interesting see what happens with him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 08, 2018, 10:09:19 PM
Made 100 million last time out?? Doubt it remotely bear that!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Don Johnson on April 22, 2018, 08:27:21 AM
Need a birthday present for a young UFC fan

Is there anywhere in Belfast that sells that terrible UFC Tapout gear?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 22, 2018, 11:28:30 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 08, 2018, 10:09:19 PM
Made 100 million last time out?? Doubt it remotely bear that!!

For the Mayweather fight? He wouldn't have been far off it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Taylor on April 22, 2018, 12:14:20 PM
Quote from: Don Johnson on April 22, 2018, 08:27:21 AM
Need a birthday present for a young UFC fan

Is there anywhere in Belfast that sells that terrible UFC Tapout gear?

Sports direct sells that hear Don
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 23, 2018, 12:57:26 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 06, 2018, 10:12:14 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on April 06, 2018, 10:05:18 PM
then he fights in the west. you dont think muslim americans will embrace Khabib?
they'll make a big card and it will sell

like i said, outside of FMW its the biggest fight they can make

And as I said, you're very foolish to think it's bigger than McGregor-GSP or McGregor-Diaz 3. Maybe this nonsense will raise the Russian's profile but he's been a side note in this story.
I didn't say it would be bigger than McGregor GSP. GSP isn't even part of the discussion. We're talking about the LW championship. GSP last fought at MW, campaigned at WW and is out indefinitely with a sickness. You can't call me foolish for disregarding a fight that isn't even part of the conversation. We're talking CMG versus Khabib or CMG versus FMW or other potential LWs
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on April 23, 2018, 01:41:23 PM
Holloway vs Ortega announced.

Really looking forward to that one.  Love both fighters, but I think Ortega is on a different level.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 23, 2018, 01:48:14 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on April 23, 2018, 01:41:23 PM
Holloway vs Ortega announced.

Really looking forward to that one.  Love both fighters, but I think Ortega is on a different level.

He's great but Holloway's volume gonna be too much for him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 23, 2018, 01:50:21 PM
Saturday's co-main event between Frankie Edgar and Cub Swanson was a bit of a yawnfest; I was disappointed in it.

The Barboza v Lee fight was fun.  In Khabib and Lee Barboza is pretty unlucky to have come up against 2 great wrestlers in his last 2 fights; he took some damage in both of those fights.
Kevin Lee was lucky enough not to damage his his right foot as he did the "chicken dance" when his legs went after the spinning heel kick in the 3rd round.

The card, generally, was underwhelming but Dan Hooker showed again that he is something a bit different.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 23, 2018, 01:58:23 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 23, 2018, 01:48:14 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on April 23, 2018, 01:41:23 PM
Holloway vs Ortega announced.

Really looking forward to that one.  Love both fighters, but I think Ortega is on a different level.

He's great but Holloway's volume gonna be too much for him.
You're overshooting a bit there Gs man with the "next level" label.
I agree with Gallsman here - Max is high pressure and will overwhelm Ortega who has not yet got the striking ability to stand for long with the champ.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 23, 2018, 02:43:19 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on April 23, 2018, 01:50:21 PM
Saturday's co-main event between Frankie Edgar and Cub Swanson was a bit of a yawnfest; I was disappointed in it.

Ah it was never going to be any different. Because he hasn't been a champ in so long and after his losses to Aldo and Ortega, people forget our overlook just how brilliant a fighter and wrestler Edgar is. Miles above Swanson, just like the first time around.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on April 23, 2018, 03:38:14 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on April 23, 2018, 01:58:23 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 23, 2018, 01:48:14 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on April 23, 2018, 01:41:23 PM
Holloway vs Ortega announced.

Really looking forward to that one.  Love both fighters, but I think Ortega is on a different level.

He's great but Holloway's volume gonna be too much for him.
You're overshooting a bit there Gs man with the "next level" label.
I agree with Gallsman here - Max is high pressure and will overwhelm Ortega who has not yet got the striking ability to stand for long with the champ.

Well, next level ju jitsu then... :-)  Don't think he'll stand too long with anyone!

That Kevin Lee chicken dance was some craic!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 23, 2018, 04:26:08 PM
I'll give Ortega one thing, his standup is way beyond what you can normally expect from someone with as good BJJ as him. KOing Frankie was no small feat.

Maybe the drugs helped.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on April 23, 2018, 06:07:46 PM
Greg Hardy is quietly talking part in a UFC challenger series event in his first pro MMA fight very soon. At least one fighter on each of those challenger series cards gets a UFC contract.

I think it's disgusting he's even getting this chance let alone so soon. White is getting seriously desperate to get stars that he thinks can draw with Brock Lesnar's new WWE contract all but confirming he'll be fighting in the UFC again and now this.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 23, 2018, 06:38:43 PM
In no way surprising. CM Punk getting a second fight and widely expected to get PPV points on it as well. The UFC is a TV show - sales and ratings are king.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on April 23, 2018, 06:44:07 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 23, 2018, 06:38:43 PM
In no way surprising. CM Punk getting a second fight and widely expected to get PPV points on it as well. The UFC is a TV show - sales and ratings are king.

At least CM Punk isn't a drugs cheat or a woman beater.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on May 20, 2018, 09:04:36 PM
I'm a week late with this but just watched nunes v Pennington, not having heard about the controversy around Pennington's corner not stopping the fight when asked by her at the end of the 4th. I see some UFC fighters have come out in defence of her corner but I can't see how. Her nose was badly busted and she was never going to turn the fight around. They sent her out for further battering and disfiguration which she duly got. I'm not usually squeamish about UFC but this was gruesome. Also thought the ref was way too slow to stop it. There was a red puddle under her by the time he called a halt.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 08, 2018, 10:01:24 PM
Yoel Romero misses weight by 0.2 pounds for tomorrow's main event.
Of course, now we have the usual drama of not knowing if the main event will take place (just 24 hours before the fight), and even if it does it won't be a title fight.

Have to think that the UFC has to do something to reduce the number of times this happens, as it's got to hurt their bottom line when main events on numbered cards don't take place.
Even if they had a 3rd fighter training for the event, in the event that the 2 main guys make weight he doesn't fight but gets paid handsomely.

I know it's not that simple, but surely it's worth them trying something different?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 08, 2018, 10:58:57 PM
The only fix is more weight classes and forcing people to fight at their natural weight. Romero is 40 gears of age. Trying to cut the amount he does is crazy.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on June 09, 2018, 10:17:09 PM
UFC is just like boxing, where it has turned into a slimming contest before fights with fighters having significant weight advantages over opponents come fight night. Needs to be a culture change whereby the weight classes actually mean something and contests are fair. Weigh-ins should be done on the day of tge fight as close to fight time as possible
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 09, 2018, 10:48:41 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 09, 2018, 10:17:09 PM
UFC is just like boxing, where it has turned into a slimming contest before fights with fighters having significant weight advantages over opponents come fight night. Needs to be a culture change whereby the weight classes actually mean something and contests are fair. Weigh-ins should be done on the day of tge fight as close to fight time as possible

No, they shouldn't. Unless you actively want fighters to suffer more brain damage.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on June 09, 2018, 10:56:13 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 09, 2018, 10:48:41 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 09, 2018, 10:17:09 PM
UFC is just like boxing, where it has turned into a slimming contest before fights with fighters having significant weight advantages over opponents come fight night. Needs to be a culture change whereby the weight classes actually mean something and contests are fair. Weigh-ins should be done on the day of tge fight as close to fight time as possible

No, they shouldn't. Unless you actively want fighters to suffer more brain damage.

By fighting someone their own weight? How do you work that out?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 09, 2018, 11:42:48 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 09, 2018, 10:56:13 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 09, 2018, 10:48:41 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 09, 2018, 10:17:09 PM
UFC is just like boxing, where it has turned into a slimming contest before fights with fighters having significant weight advantages over opponents come fight night. Needs to be a culture change whereby the weight classes actually mean something and contests are fair. Weigh-ins should be done on the day of tge fight as close to fight time as possible

No, they shouldn't. Unless you actively want fighters to suffer more brain damage.

By fighting someone their own weight? How do you work that out?

Because when fighters cut weight in the final few days to weigh in, they do so by dehydrating themselves, which leaves them particularly susceptible to brain damage as the protective layer around the brain is depleted. That's how fighters like Canelo put on so much weight between weigh in and fight time - they're completely dried out and then sink gallons of water for 24 hours.

The UFC specifically moved its weigh ins to the morning to allow fighters more time to rehydrate ahead of the fight, especially after rehydration via IV was banned.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on June 10, 2018, 10:23:29 AM
Quote from: gallsman on June 09, 2018, 11:42:48 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 09, 2018, 10:56:13 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 09, 2018, 10:48:41 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 09, 2018, 10:17:09 PM
UFC is just like boxing, where it has turned into a slimming contest before fights with fighters having significant weight advantages over opponents come fight night. Needs to be a culture change whereby the weight classes actually mean something and contests are fair. Weigh-ins should be done on the day of tge fight as close to fight time as possible

No, they shouldn't. Unless you actively want fighters to suffer more brain damage.

By fighting someone their own weight? How do you work that out?

Because when fighters cut weight in the final few days to weigh in, they do so by dehydrating themselves, which leaves them particularly susceptible to brain damage as the protective layer around the brain is depleted. That's how fighters like Canelo put on so much weight between weigh in and fight time - they're completely dried out and then sink gallons of water for 24 hours.

The UFC specifically moved its weigh ins to the morning to allow fighters more time to rehydrate ahead of the fight, especially after rehydration via IV was banned.
Thats what i meant by cultural change, where cutting and all that goes with it is no longer the norm.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 10, 2018, 09:00:30 PM
Whittaker v Romero was some tear up.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on June 11, 2018, 08:41:39 AM
Great scrap, although I thought Romero should have got the decision.

Fair play to Whittaker though, fighting as he did with a broken hand.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 11, 2018, 08:59:06 AM
Whittaker is hard as nails but he didn't deserve that decision. Pretty clear he won three runs 10-9 with Romero winning the other two, at least one of which was a clear 10-8.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 26, 2018, 03:12:49 PM
Very very very light slap on the wrist for Conor

QuoteConor McGregor's UFC 223 courtroom battle has come to an end.

The former featherweight and lightweight UFC champion agreed to a plea deal at a hearing at Kings County Courthouse in Brooklyn, New York on Thursday which saw all felony counts against the popular fighter dismissed. Per the terms of the plea deal, McGregor pled guilty to one count of disorderly conduct and will be forced to undergo five days of community service, 1-3 days of an anger management evaluation, and will be required to pay restitution for the damage he inflicted on a UFC fighter bus during UFC 223 fight week. Three orders of protections were also served against McGregor, including two by UFC fighters Ray Borg and Michael Chiesa. McGregor will not be permitted near them until July 2020.

McGregor's agreement to the plea deal will not affect McGregor's travel visa, and means "The Notorious" will receive no jail time and will not have a criminal record.


McGregor, 30, incited a melee on April 5 when he and his entourage stormed into Brooklyn's Barclays Center in a wild scene following UFC 223's media day and attacked the UFC fighter bus carrying lightweight champion Khabib Nurmagomedov. The incident culminated in an infamous sequence that saw McGregor hurl a dolly through a bus window, which ultimately left several fighters shaken up and forced UFC contenders Chiesa and Borg to withdraw from their respective UFC 223 fights as a result of injuries suffered from the broken glass. Chiesa recently told ESPN that "the wheels are in motion" for him to take legal action against McGregor.

McGregor's teammate Artem Lobov was also involved in the melee and was subsequently pulled from his UFC 223 scheduled bout against Alex Caceres.

McGregor and teammate Cian Cowley turned themselves into the New York Police Department on the night of the incident and were released on $50,000 and $25,000 bond, respectively. McGregor faced a potential 12 criminal charges for his role in the melee. Both men informed the court in a June 14 hearing that they planned to negotiate a plea deal.

Cowley also pled guilty to one count of disorderly conduct on Thursday.

With McGregor's legal issues now resolved, the road toward a UFC return appears clear. UFC president Dana White has repeatedly stated over recent months that the promotion would not move forward with its former two-division champion hanging in legal limbo. With that out of the way, a blockbuster title matchup against Nurmagomedov could very well be the next step, potentially on Nov. 3 at UFC 230 at New York's Madison Square Garden, or on Dec. 29 for the promotion's year-end Las Vegas show, UFC 232. A Nurmagomedov vs. McGregor matchup would likely be one of the highest-selling MMA fights of all-time.

McGregor (21-3) has not competed in MMA since defeating Eddie Alvarez via second-round TKO at UFC 205 in Nov. 2016 to become the first-ever UFC champion to simultaneously hold titles in two different divisions. Altogether, the Irishman holds a 9-1 Octagon record and carries a slew of notable victories over the likes of Jose Aldo, Max Holloway, Nate Diaz, Dustin Poirier, and Chad Mendes, among others.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 03, 2018, 10:43:46 PM
Well - it's happening

(https://i.imgur.com/OG55dlP.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 03, 2018, 10:54:25 PM
Gonna be absolutely unreal until Khabib pulls out with weight cut difficulties three days in advance.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on August 05, 2018, 05:25:12 AM
That was a great fight between Mighty Mouse and Cejudo
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 05, 2018, 10:24:07 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on August 05, 2018, 05:25:12 AM
That was a great fight between Mighty Mouse and Cejudo

It was close but don't see how Cejudo won three rounds there. Takedowns and top control without converting that control into damage doesn't outscore striking superiority.

TJ will be delighted with getting out of that one again. Two fights in a row where Garbrandt has let his emotion get the better of him and abandoned the discipline and poise he showed in the Cruz fight and the first round of the first Dillashaw fight. Dillashaw is great but Garbrandt is a faster, more technical boxer than him and has now been knocked out twice, definitively ending the rivalry.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on August 06, 2018, 11:06:13 AM
Yeah, I though Mighty Mouse had it in the bag 3 to 2.  Great fight all the same!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on August 06, 2018, 05:01:23 PM
very rarely if ever would you see a challenger winning a close contest.  It takes a monumental effort to dethrone a champ when it goes to the scorecards.
I would agree with some theories out there that the UFC didn't want DJ to be champ.  With the rise of Combate Americas (latin fight league) the UFC needs to market a Latin champion now that Velasquez is on the shelf and Cejudo fits that bill perfectly.

Agree that Cody's recklessness cost him the fight.  He should beat TJ but thinks he can bite down on the gum shield and trade. Doesn't work with someone with TJ's power and Cody's now suspect chin?

UFC were very foolish pushing the CMG Khabib fight at the press conference.  They should have been promoting the fighters in attendance - especially Poirier Diaz at MSG - that could be a decent card for them if they gave it a push....

Khabib isn't indestructible like we once predicted.... he is susceptible to being hit - the question is can Conor hit him and can Khabib take it? Khabib is relentless and his wrestling is unlike anything CMG has ever grappled with (pardon the pun). If Khabib can eat the left hand and keep going then it will be a long and rough 5 rounds for Conor.  But thats what we're willing to pay to find out...

I'd say there will be antics between both teams that might derail this one before they make it to the cage...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on August 07, 2018, 08:53:24 AM
Just caught up with the Prelims last night and really enjoyed the Sayles Vs Moraes fight.

Sayles had a pretty good debut.  Loved his fighting style and how he rolled every punch and kick.  Still took a few digs, but he has a good engine.  Looking forward to see him fighting again. 

As for DJ, people just don't seem to like him for some reason.  Can't put my finger on it.  He's a class fighter and if he doesn't get the rematch there's something wrong.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 18, 2018, 07:43:17 AM
James Gallagher, the poor little pale imitation of McGregor from Strabane, got badly knocked out in the first round in Bellator last night.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/8/17/17736352/video-ricky-bandejas-knocks-james-gallagher-out-cold-at-bellator-204
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on September 09, 2018, 06:07:13 AM
Till well beaten by Woodley tonight...nothing in 1st round,  woodley connects early in 2nd and beats him up on the floor for most of the round and then submits him.not sure if Till actually landed a hand on woodley the whole fight
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 10, 2018, 08:27:35 AM
That was a great night of fights!

Really enjoyed the whole show.  Some big knock-outs and great finishes.

That fight came too soon for Till.  And him looking to move up in weight as well? 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on September 20, 2018, 11:44:13 PM
Watched some clips of the presser... McGregor is off his nut isn't he??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: MoChara on September 21, 2018, 09:20:04 AM
Quote from: screenexile on September 20, 2018, 11:44:13 PM
Watched some clips of the presser... McGregor is off his nut isn't he??

I think without the crowd there ooh-ing and ahh-ing his every word you really see he's just a p***k trying to be outlandish.

From that conference my moneys on Khabib, McGregor looks off the pace and a bit worn out.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 21, 2018, 09:24:11 AM
It was cringe worthy stuff from beginning to end.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2018, 02:42:58 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 21, 2018, 09:20:04 AM
Quote from: screenexile on September 20, 2018, 11:44:13 PM
Watched some clips of the presser... McGregor is off his nut isn't he??

I think without the crowd there ooh-ing and ahh-ing his every word you really see he's just a p***k trying to be outlandish.

From that conference my moneys on Khabib, McGregor looks off the pace and a bit worn out.

Wonder why that would be            :o
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on September 21, 2018, 02:44:40 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/johf1uFlLcEBW/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 21, 2018, 07:18:39 PM
I don't take it serious and think of it as a pantomime so I thought it was funny.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 21, 2018, 07:25:06 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 21, 2018, 07:18:39 PM
I don't take it serious and think of it as a pantomime so I thought it was funny.

Of course it was pantomime but what on earth could anyone older than the age of 12 find funny about his "performance"? The bit where he said "smell o' shite off yer da"? Or maybe the one where he called him a "do nothing ****"?

Nothing smart, nothing witty about it. Pathetic stuff altogether.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Boycey on September 21, 2018, 07:29:40 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 21, 2018, 07:25:06 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 21, 2018, 07:18:39 PM
I don't take it serious and think of it as a pantomime so I thought it was funny.

Of course it was pantomime but what on earth could anyone older than the age of 12 find funny about his "performance"? The bit where he said "smell o' shite off yer da"? Or maybe the one where he called him a "do nothing ****"?

Nothing smart, nothing witty about it. Pathetic stuff altogether.

I was thinking exactly the same, I've seen it said in several places today 'a he's just selling the fight' 'its a big act'

If that's the kind of shite that's needed to promote a fight what kind of eejits are they targeting.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Don Johnson on September 21, 2018, 07:58:59 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 21, 2018, 07:25:06 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 21, 2018, 07:18:39 PM
I don't take it serious and think of it as a pantomime so I thought it was funny.

Of course it was pantomime but what on earth could anyone older than the age of 12 find funny about his "performance"? The bit where he said "smell o' shite off yer da"? Or maybe the one where he called him a "do nothing ****"?

Nothing smart, nothing witty about it. Pathetic stuff altogether.

I'd say you're some buzz at parties ya mad backwards ****  8)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: trailer on September 21, 2018, 10:38:07 PM
Typical Dublin kn**ker. An arsehole.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: HiMucker on September 22, 2018, 07:30:17 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 21, 2018, 07:25:06 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 21, 2018, 07:18:39 PM
I don't take it serious and think of it as a pantomime so I thought it was funny.

Of course it was pantomime but what on earth could anyone older than the age of 12 find funny about his "performance"? The bit where he said "smell o' shite off yer da"? Or maybe the one where he called him a "do nothing ****"?

Nothing smart, nothing witty about it. Pathetic stuff altogether.
I thought the majority was cringey trash, but had a good laugh when he mentioned putin.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on September 23, 2018, 08:03:56 PM
UFC 229 Press Conference Full Uncensored: Conor McGregor Vs Khabib Nurmagomedov

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUJPWE0T34U
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on October 06, 2018, 06:25:34 AM
So those with more knowledge than myself, what's the predictions for tomorrow's fight?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 06, 2018, 07:35:41 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on October 06, 2018, 06:25:34 AM
So those with more knowledge than myself, what's the predictions for tomorrow's fight?

Pick 'em.

McGregor can win by KO at any point in the first two rounds. Khabib can win on points or by TKO at any stage. If it goes five rounds, it'll be because McGregor has spent the entire fight on his back.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 06, 2018, 08:42:47 AM
Quote from: gallsman on October 06, 2018, 07:35:41 AM


Pick 'em.



Khabib is a decent favourite with the Vegas bookies (1.56 vs 2.56 for Conor)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 06, 2018, 10:16:40 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on October 06, 2018, 08:42:47 AM
Quote from: gallsman on October 06, 2018, 07:35:41 AM


Pick 'em.



Khabib is a decent favourite with the Vegas bookies (1.56 vs 2.56 for Conor)

McGregor can KO anyone at 155 with that left and Khabib didn't look the greatest at the official weigh in. Always a tough cut for him. Could be very good value in McGregor there as Khabib is definitely easily hit.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on October 06, 2018, 05:57:30 PM
Folks how do I watch tonight? Don't have BT? Can I buy it anyway?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 06, 2018, 07:17:59 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on October 06, 2018, 05:57:30 PM
Folks how do I watch tonight? Don't have BT? Can I buy it anyway?

No PPV option in UK or Ireland. Only available on BT, via whatever platform you get it through.

Only other option apart from streaming is to VPN to somewhere you can but it on PPV on either UFC.tv or YouTube. Careful with shite free VPNs though, as a high quality stream would chew through a free allowance in no time
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bennydorano on October 06, 2018, 07:23:14 PM
Navapp (Navixsport+) on android is some job (assuming the fight is on it), watched the AJ fight in perfect HD without issue. All US feeds for football.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on October 06, 2018, 07:36:53 PM
With it being on BT you would imagine there will be loads of free streams available
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 06, 2018, 07:44:21 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on October 06, 2018, 07:36:53 PM
With it being on BT you would imagine there will be loads of free streams available

It's a Conor McGregor fight, there was going to be a load of streams regardless.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on October 06, 2018, 07:48:34 PM
Well he should have no problem seeing it then.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Solo_run on October 06, 2018, 07:54:50 PM
There are too many distractions for McGregor and I don't think he has the motivation to fight anymore. He has earned enough to keep him going for the rest of his life
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 06, 2018, 07:58:48 PM
What is the expected start time for the McGregor match?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on October 06, 2018, 07:59:09 PM
Cheers lads. Any idea on time? 5am?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 06, 2018, 08:01:46 PM
About that.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 07, 2018, 02:15:23 AM
I can definitely see a situation where McGregor has lost a little of his edge and is a bit rusty, but despite his flaws I do hope the wee fecker gets the job done. MMA needs him to win now more than ever. The sport is in a precarious space.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on October 07, 2018, 02:43:16 AM
Having lost a little interest in him lately I'm finding myself getting more excited for the fight as it gets closer (having just watched Black 47 has got me in the mood too!)
Really hope he wins aswell.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DrinkingHarp on October 07, 2018, 04:10:31 AM
I found a link working now

http://www.tvzol.com/2018/04/play1.html
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on October 07, 2018, 04:32:32 AM
Just going to follow it on twiiter  :-*
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on October 07, 2018, 04:53:06 AM
Derrick Lewis post fight what a man 8) 8) 8)

https://twitter.com/i/status/1048781390270095360
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on October 07, 2018, 05:20:58 AM
they seem to be blanking all the fighters speeches now  :D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on October 07, 2018, 05:41:56 AM
Team Khabib or Team Notorious? Let's go champ!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 07, 2018, 05:52:12 AM
Getting the head pulled off him here
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 07, 2018, 05:52:34 AM
MMA is properly shit when they don't stay on their feet.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on October 07, 2018, 06:04:30 AM
Lol if that guy isn't banned after making McGregor look like a tool
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 07, 2018, 06:04:52 AM
Honestly Conor did better than I thought he would. He's a tough nut to hang as long as he did.

The UFC needs to stop giving grapplers contracts if they want to get eyeballs watching sport. Boring, ugly stuff.

Khabib is a total kn**ker. Embarassing.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 07, 2018, 06:07:46 AM
A fight so well controlled by Khabib but lost his head after the match.  McGregor did well to last 4 rounds when he was wrecked by the end of the 1st round.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on October 07, 2018, 06:11:41 AM
Messy at the end there was no need for that from Khabib.

The sanctimonious nonsense is a bit much though do they forget McGregor flew his mates over to America to attack Khabib and his team??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 07, 2018, 06:12:02 AM
Hope Khabib is banned and McGregor and Ferguson fight for the title.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on October 07, 2018, 06:17:29 AM
Quote from: screenexile on October 07, 2018, 06:11:41 AM
Messy at the end there was no need for that from Khabib.

The sanctimonious nonsense is a bit much though do they forget McGregor flew his mates over to America to attack Khabib and his team??

Here hold on a minute it was like watching WWF at the end but this time no play acting. Khabib and then his mate will be lucky if they are not done for assault nevermind  bans. Idiotic beyond belief
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on October 07, 2018, 06:18:24 AM
Did well to last 4 rounds - Khabib just too good

QuoteIt was Zubaira Tukhugov, who McGregor called a "Chechen traitor" that jumped the fence and started swinging on McGregor. #UFC229     
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 07, 2018, 06:19:57 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 07, 2018, 06:18:24 AM
Did well to last 4 rounds - Khabib just too good

QuoteIt was Zubaira Tukhugov, who McGregor called a "Chechen traitor" that jumped the fence and started swinging on McGregor. #UFC229     

Brave boy to attack a man from behind who just went four rounds with a UFC champion.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on October 07, 2018, 06:20:06 AM
Enjoyed the Lewis fight more probably due to the lack of grappling. Dont understand why the Russian Drago didnt finish him when he had several chances
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on October 07, 2018, 06:24:11 AM
I reckon there should be a rematch at Wrestlemania
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on October 07, 2018, 06:26:10 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 07, 2018, 06:19:57 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 07, 2018, 06:18:24 AM
Did well to last 4 rounds - Khabib just too good

QuoteIt was Zubaira Tukhugov, who McGregor called a "Chechen traitor" that jumped the fence and started swinging on McGregor. #UFC229     

Brave boy to attack a man from behind who just went four rounds with a UFC champion.

And someone was a brave boy to throw a bin through a bus window earlier in the year ..... no one comes out of this whole situation looking good.

Khabib will have his belt stripped and him and is buddies will be lucky not to be arrested.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on October 07, 2018, 06:28:00 AM
Sounds like McGregor's mouth finally got what it deserves

His lifestyle will likely result in a similar comeuppance
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 07, 2018, 06:29:42 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 07, 2018, 06:26:10 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 07, 2018, 06:19:57 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 07, 2018, 06:18:24 AM
Did well to last 4 rounds - Khabib just too good

QuoteIt was Zubaira Tukhugov, who McGregor called a "Chechen traitor" that jumped the fence and started swinging on McGregor. #UFC229     

Brave boy to attack a man from behind who just went four rounds with a UFC champion.

And someone was a brave boy to throw a bin through a bus window earlier in the year ..... no one comes out of this whole situation looking good.

Khabib will have his belt stripped and him and is buddies will be lucky not to be arrested.

The UFC comes out of it well if it means they can arrange a Ferguson-McGregor title fight..
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 07, 2018, 06:33:32 AM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on October 07, 2018, 05:20:58 AM
they seem to be blanking all the fighters speeches now  :D

Not on the PPV. Was plenty of fucks thrown around after the Ferguson fight
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 07, 2018, 06:34:17 AM
On the fight - Khabib was just vastly superior in all areas, even managed to drop him while on the feet. The kind of top pressure Khabib exerts is exhausting for both fighters but obviously more for the one on the defensive side of things. You could see I'm the 3rd round Khabib had zero resource for his power. Was standing right in front of him with his hands down.

On the aftermath, just pure scummy bastards all round - Khabib, Dani's, the lad who suckerpunched McGregor.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 07, 2018, 06:47:41 AM
At best upon reflection CMG only stood a punchers chance

Totally out fought
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 07, 2018, 08:19:49 AM
McGregor mouthing about things not even related to the fight comes back to haunt him!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 07, 2018, 08:22:16 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 07, 2018, 08:19:49 AM
McGregor mouthing about things not even related to the fight comes back to haunt him!

:o
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: yellowcard on October 07, 2018, 08:22:25 AM
Mc Gregor was humiliated inside the ring but Nurmagomedov humiliated himself after the fight. For McGregor what goes around comes around. What is amusing is all the McGregor disciples feigning outrage at the Russians post fight antics. The irony.

Yes, it WAS a disgrace but don't be hypocrites, McGregor has acted like trash for years.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 07, 2018, 09:18:39 AM
You insult a man religion; family; etc prior to a fight dont expect a opponent to take it well!  If i remember right; its not that long ago McGregor jumped into the cage after a fight which had nothing to do with him!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Solo_run on October 07, 2018, 09:30:17 AM
Never watched it, had something important to do - sleep.

I am a bit meh with McGregor but he should not have taken this fight after being away for so long.

The difference between what Connor did and what Khabib did was that McGregor damaged a vehicle. Khabib assaulted a person he who he was not fighting and incited a riot. With what is happening in Russia lately I would not be surprised if Khabib's Visa was revoked.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: markl121 on October 07, 2018, 10:33:34 AM
Khabib and crew have been watching too many videos of gaa fights this week
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: smelmoth on October 07, 2018, 10:42:26 AM
UFC seems to have a similar impact on scumbags as shit has on flies
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Minder on October 07, 2018, 11:03:03 AM
So McGregor isn't the only sc**bag in the village
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Boycey on October 07, 2018, 11:08:54 AM
I'm not UFC fan by any stretch but is this the myth of McGregor destroyed? Four defeats in only 25 bouts... Or will we see another 12 months of hype before this guy beats him again cause to my untrained eye I don't see how McGregor ever beats him?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 07, 2018, 11:14:39 AM
Rumours startin that Khabib went after Rory in the crowd after he held up the wrong flag last week
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 07, 2018, 11:51:58 AM
Quote from: Boycey on October 07, 2018, 11:08:54 AM
I'm not UFC fan by any stretch but is this the myth of McGregor destroyed? Four defeats in only 25 bouts... Or will we see another 12 months of hype before this guy beats him again cause to my untrained eye I don't see how McGregor ever beats him?

Not in the slightest, Khabib is absolutely elite and losing to him is no shame. He was the favourite with the bookies after all. The 0 isn't the same in MMA as it is in boxing as there are so many different ways to lose fights.

Make no mistake, McGregor is a brilliant mixed martial artist. His ground game is much better than he's given credit for and he did pretty well defending Khabib at times last night. Unfortunately Khabib's wrestling is just next level stuff
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: MoChara on October 07, 2018, 01:31:00 PM
Never mind the McGregor stuff,  Derrick Lewis was the most entertaining man there  ;D ;D

https://streamable.com/52wvw

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on October 07, 2018, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Boycey on October 07, 2018, 11:08:54 AM
I'm not UFC fan by any stretch but is this the myth of McGregor destroyed? Four defeats in only 25 bouts... Or will we see another 12 months of hype before this guy beats him again cause to my untrained eye I don't see how McGregor ever beats him?

Agree with this if this was a boxing record it would be pretty average. Some of the greats had 4 losses or more but they also had 40 odd wins
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 07, 2018, 01:43:51 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on October 07, 2018, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Boycey on October 07, 2018, 11:08:54 AM
I'm not UFC fan by any stretch but is this the myth of McGregor destroyed? Four defeats in only 25 bouts... Or will we see another 12 months of hype before this guy beats him again cause to my untrained eye I don't see how McGregor ever beats him?

Agree with this if this was a boxing record it would be pretty average. Some of the greats had 4 losses or more but they also had 40 odd wins

You can't compare records like that at all. Different sports.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on October 07, 2018, 01:52:34 PM
McGregor not going to charge those who attacked him in the octagon after the fight according to Dana, so I will give Connor credit for that.

As regards the fight itself I thought it was very one sided not sure why Connor is looking a rematch. Russian very powerful.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on October 07, 2018, 02:22:16 PM
New Footage Emerges Showing McGregor's 'First Punch' At Khabib's Team



https://www.balls.ie/mma/new-footage-emerges-shows-mcgregors-throwing-first-punch-398275 (https://www.balls.ie/mma/new-footage-emerges-shows-mcgregors-throwing-first-punch-398275)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on October 07, 2018, 02:46:49 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 07, 2018, 02:22:16 PM
New Footage Emerges Showing McGregor's 'First Punch' At Khabib's Team



https://www.balls.ie/mma/new-footage-emerges-shows-mcgregors-throwing-first-punch-398275 (https://www.balls.ie/mma/new-footage-emerges-shows-mcgregors-throwing-first-punch-398275)

He takes a swing alright but whats the loon doing jumping the fence to join khabib. The whole thing is a mess but like most sports the punnishment will be non-existant. UFC coming out of this very badly. Shame because some of the earlier fights were great
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: markl121 on October 07, 2018, 03:06:41 PM
You're man Lewis post fight interview was quality stuff
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 07, 2018, 04:17:09 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on October 07, 2018, 02:46:49 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 07, 2018, 02:22:16 PM
New Footage Emerges Showing McGregor's 'First Punch' At Khabib's Team



https://www.balls.ie/mma/new-footage-emerges-shows-mcgregors-throwing-first-punch-398275 (https://www.balls.ie/mma/new-footage-emerges-shows-mcgregors-throwing-first-punch-398275)

He takes a swing alright but whats the loon doing jumping the fence to join khabib. The whole thing is a mess but like most sports the punnishment will be non-existant. UFC coming out of this very badly. Shame because some of the earlier fights were great

You're mad if you think there will be non-existent punishments for this. The Nevada State Athletic Commission allow are sure to hand down a sanction to Khabib and if you think the UFC won't do likewise..
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gmac on October 07, 2018, 08:22:50 PM
Conor is there to make money (40/50m) that's his bottom line everyone gets beat in the ufc
I think he's lost some power or the pace of kabib was killing him or both
Wouldn't like to see him fight kabib again as I think it's the same result or worse
If Dana could get rid of kabib he would he's boring to watch for casual fan and is not box office like Conor is , Conor v Ferguson would be nice
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: yellowcard on October 07, 2018, 09:21:36 PM
It could be that McGregors lifestyle is catching up with him. Once he has lost that edge and hunger he has lost something intangible as a UFC fighter at the elite level. His primary motivation appears to be money and he already has enough of that.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: trailer on October 07, 2018, 10:07:03 PM
A rather unsavoury sport that is full of unsavoury characters. Most of them belong in jail.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 07, 2018, 10:16:11 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 07, 2018, 09:21:36 PM
It could be that McGregors lifestyle is catching up with him. Once he has lost that edge and hunger he has lost something intangible as a UFC fighter at the elite level. His primary motivation appears to be money and he already has enough of that.

Absolute nonsense.

McGregor is a striker, he fought maybe the best wrestler in the history of the UFC. There was no lack of heart or effort from him but I doubt you even watched fight. You'd rather feign concern on a thread.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Black on October 07, 2018, 11:04:12 PM
what a hormonal response to an innocuous comment  ;D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: MoChara on October 07, 2018, 11:38:18 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 07, 2018, 10:16:11 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 07, 2018, 09:21:36 PM
It could be that McGregors lifestyle is catching up with him. Once he has lost that edge and hunger he has lost something intangible as a UFC fighter at the elite level. His primary motivation appears to be money and he already has enough of that.

Absolute nonsense.

McGregor is a striker, he fought maybe the best wrestler in the history of the UFC. There was no lack of heart or effort from him but I doubt you even watched fight. You'd rather feign concern on a thread.

But McGregor didn't even win the stand up last night, khabib knocked him down and everything
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on October 08, 2018, 06:12:33 AM
(MUST SEE) PAULIE MALIGNAGGI REACTS TO MCGREGOR'S LOSS TO KHABIB & POST-FIGHT BRAWL: "HAD IT COMING"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y9_yQ5v8Xw
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on October 08, 2018, 01:56:39 PM
I enjoyed the card from top to bottom, some great highlight reel finishes, comeback wins, all out wars and then the main event and antics afterwards.
Well worth the money.

I thought Conor did surprisingly well in the fight. Khabib is as elite as they come on the ground. His style is exhausting. He's like a pitbull who inches closer and closer to the neck.  How he ties up the legs is instinctual and only comes with years of training. There is no escape on the ground once he has you.  Conor did well to delay the inevitable and hoped to crack him on the feet. But he was so focused on avoiding the takedown he ate a huge shot from Khabib that would have KO'ed many fighters.  I see no shame in tapping out. He avoided injury and lives to fight another day. He could still technically fight on the November card in MSG.

I think there was some orchestration Khabib's teams part, to the antics afterwards. The lads climbing in to the cage when the fight was on the other side just seems too suspect. Granted McGregor swiped at a lad climbing out of the cage in to the fight but those two lads both went for him - real dirt.

Rematch.... Conor will want one for the money and can market it.  But he can't beat this boy. There's no adjustments he can make in a short amount of time that would equip him for Khabib.  His ground game is just too far behind. His only chance in a rematch was his same chance in the first fight - to catch him on the way in with the left or a knee.

I'm disappointed with the continued begrudgery from many Irish fans and the delight in his loss.  His antics before a fight are "all business" and if you meet the man in person he's completely different. His real persona is the man who was interviewed by Karen Bryant a couple of days before the fight. A happy, grateful man who came from nothing and now has it all, who still loves the sport and the competition.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 08, 2018, 02:27:22 PM
Iceman, I had a conversation with someone at the weekend about Trump, arguing that he is doing quiet a good job for their economy. Their retort was that he might be but his manner of doing it is so despicable that it over shadows it.

Likewise with McG, he might be a good fighter but he is an absolute sc**bag. And this guy is going around with the tricolour around his neck, our flag, like he's some kind of ambassador for Ireland. He's an absolute disgrace. And to say it's just showmanship is nonsense, Tyson Fury is the same, degenerate animals. Ali was a showman, an entertainer.

"_Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing."_ - *Muhammad Ali 1963*

_"Your Da smells like shite"_- *Conor McGregor 2018*

Anyone who thinks this wasn't all scripted so there's be a bigger payday is codding  themselves, it's worse that WWF. Dana White is the new Vince McMahon. He called the bus incident the darkest day in the history of the UFC and proceeded to run it as a promo for this.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bennydorano on October 08, 2018, 03:20:10 PM
Did Mcgregor ever get shares in the company that time??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: trailer on October 08, 2018, 05:16:52 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on October 08, 2018, 01:56:39 PM
I enjoyed the card from top to bottom, some great highlight reel finishes, comeback wins, all out wars and then the main event and antics afterwards.
Well worth the money.

I thought Conor did surprisingly well in the fight. Khabib is as elite as they come on the ground. His style is exhausting. He's like a pitbull who inches closer and closer to the neck.  How he ties up the legs is instinctual and only comes with years of training. There is no escape on the ground once he has you.  Conor did well to delay the inevitable and hoped to crack him on the feet. But he was so focused on avoiding the takedown he ate a huge shot from Khabib that would have KO'ed many fighters.  I see no shame in tapping out. He avoided injury and lives to fight another day. He could still technically fight on the November card in MSG.

I think there was some orchestration Khabib's teams part, to the antics afterwards. The lads climbing in to the cage when the fight was on the other side just seems too suspect. Granted McGregor swiped at a lad climbing out of the cage in to the fight but those two lads both went for him - real dirt.

Rematch.... Conor will want one for the money and can market it.  But he can't beat this boy. There's no adjustments he can make in a short amount of time that would equip him for Khabib.  His ground game is just too far behind. His only chance in a rematch was his same chance in the first fight - to catch him on the way in with the left or a knee.

I'm disappointed with the continued begrudgery from many Irish fans and the delight in his loss.  His antics before a fight are "all business" and if you meet the man in person he's completely different. His real persona is the man who was interviewed by Karen Bryant a couple of days before the fight. A happy, grateful man who came from nothing and now has it all, who still loves the sport and the competition.

He's a f**king asshole.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 08, 2018, 06:29:21 PM
I think when you call a lad a traitor to his country and insult another religion; his father etc and then be suprised what went down sat night!  When you look at McGregor record how many 1-3 seeded fighter did he actually beat! As for holding 2 titled he never bothered to defend 1 of them!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on October 08, 2018, 06:51:46 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 08, 2018, 06:29:21 PM
I think when you call a lad a traitor to his country and insult another religion; his father etc and then be suprised what went down sat night!  When you look at McGregor record how many 1-3 seeded fighter did he actually beat! As for holding 2 titled he never bothered to defend 1 of them!
Nobody in MMA overlooks McGregor. They all recognize his skill. How many 1-3 seeded fighters did he beat? Well for starters you don't fight 1-3 ranked fighters until you're at that level.  His last fights have been Mendes at FW (meets your top 3 request), Aldo (#1 at FW and many people P4P top 3 at the time they fought), Diaz, twice (not ranked because of absence but definitely top 3 at LW) Alvarez (#1 at LW).... then he left to fight Floyd.

How do you think he makes his money? Just his showmanship and promotion? He can actually fight!
He got the FMW fight because he has skills and could promote the fight. If he was a quiet Katie Taylor type person nobody would really know who he is, let's be honest.  He would never have had the rise in MMA he had, he would never have been offered a chance at FMW and his name wouldn't be on the famous gaaboard....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 08, 2018, 07:56:31 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 08, 2018, 06:29:21 PM
I think when you call a lad a traitor to his country and insult another religion; his father etc and then be suprised what went down sat night!  When you look at McGregor record how many 1-3 seeded fighter did he actually beat! As for holding 2 titled he never bothered to defend 1 of them!

This reads like someone who hasn't the barest clue about McGregor's record or MMA in general. So many seem so keen to get a dig at him that they don't realise they're making a fool of themselves in the process.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on October 08, 2018, 09:21:48 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 07, 2018, 11:38:18 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 07, 2018, 10:16:11 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 07, 2018, 09:21:36 PM
It could be that McGregors lifestyle is catching up with him. Once he has lost that edge and hunger he has lost something intangible as a UFC fighter at the elite level. His primary motivation appears to be money and he already has enough of that.

Absolute nonsense.

McGregor is a striker, he fought maybe the best wrestler in the history of the UFC. There was no lack of heart or effort from him but I doubt you even watched fight. You'd rather feign concern on a thread.

But McGregor didn't even win the stand up last night, khabib knocked him down and everything

McGregor was too focused on Khabib gping for take downs, that itself led to him being more cautious on his feet and staying out of his normal attacking range more often than normal.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Boycey on October 08, 2018, 10:11:53 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 08, 2018, 07:56:31 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 08, 2018, 06:29:21 PM
I think when you call a lad a traitor to his country and insult another religion; his father etc and then be suprised what went down sat night!  When you look at McGregor record how many 1-3 seeded fighter did he actually beat! As for holding 2 titled he never bothered to defend 1 of them!

This reads like someone who hasn't the barest clue about McGregor's record or MMA in general. So many seem so keen to get a dig at him that they don't realise they're making a fool of themselves in the process.

Is this what they call irony?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Muck Savage on October 08, 2018, 10:47:45 PM
Its a money game and Conor Mac makes a lot of money for UFC. The Russian would beat him 9 time out of 10 and maybe even 10 times. UFC are going to look very hard to keep their cash cow as the main fighter in this weight. I'm expecting Khabib to get a long ban from this if not kicked out all-together. Thats sets up Conor up for a Ferguson fight and anther pay-day for UFC. Its that or keep Khabib in this and they make a fraction of the money.
After seeing fans fight on the street after, LV and Nevada won't want this guy around again.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 08, 2018, 10:52:54 PM
What's the chances of the rematch being in Russia?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 08, 2018, 11:15:47 PM
So he found 3 top seeded fighter out of 25 odd fights; was Diaz not rated at only no:5,
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 08, 2018, 11:21:42 PM
Quote from: Muck Savage on October 08, 2018, 10:47:45 PM
Its a money game and Conor Mac makes a lot of money for UFC. The Russian would beat him 9 time out of 10 and maybe even 10 times. UFC are going to look very hard to keep their cash cow as the main fighter in this weight. I'm expecting Khabib to get a long ban from this if not kicked out all-together. Thats sets up Conor up for a Ferguson fight and anther pay-day for UFC. Its that or keep Khabib in this and they make a fraction of the money.
After seeing fans fight on the street after, LV and Nevada won't want this guy around again.

McGregor has a million other fights he can make that are bigger than Khabib.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: trailer on October 08, 2018, 11:45:48 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 08, 2018, 10:52:54 PM
What's the chances of the rematch being in Russia?

On Christmas Day perhaps?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 08, 2018, 11:57:00 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 08, 2018, 09:21:48 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 07, 2018, 11:38:18 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 07, 2018, 10:16:11 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 07, 2018, 09:21:36 PM
It could be that McGregors lifestyle is catching up with him. Once he has lost that edge and hunger he has lost something intangible as a UFC fighter at the elite level. His primary motivation appears to be money and he already has enough of that.

Absolute nonsense.

McGregor is a striker, he fought maybe the best wrestler in the history of the UFC. There was no lack of heart or effort from him but I doubt you even watched fight. You'd rather feign concern on a thread.

But McGregor didn't even win the stand up last night, khabib knocked him down and everything

McGregor was too focused on Khabib gping for take downs, that itself led to him being more cautious on his feet and staying out of his normal attacking range more often than normal.

That's not what happened at all. Khabib stood in front of him pretty much the entire third round. Only focusing on his own strengths would have been a disaster and the fight would have been more of a mauling than it already was. It was by virtue of the fact that he clearly trained his wrestling so much that he was able to give a good account of himself defensively on the ground.

Khabib is just a horrible, horrible match up for him. He didn't fear the power and that gave him the ability to shoot whenever he wanted. Once he grabs hold of you it's over.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 09, 2018, 12:01:14 AM
Quote from: gallsman on October 08, 2018, 11:57:00 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 08, 2018, 09:21:48 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 07, 2018, 11:38:18 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 07, 2018, 10:16:11 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 07, 2018, 09:21:36 PM
It could be that McGregors lifestyle is catching up with him. Once he has lost that edge and hunger he has lost something intangible as a UFC fighter at the elite level. His primary motivation appears to be money and he already has enough of that.

Absolute nonsense.

McGregor is a striker, he fought maybe the best wrestler in the history of the UFC. There was no lack of heart or effort from him but I doubt you even watched fight. You'd rather feign concern on a thread.

But McGregor didn't even win the stand up last night, khabib knocked him down and everything

McGregor was too focused on Khabib gping for take downs, that itself led to him being more cautious on his feet and staying out of his normal attacking range more often than normal.

That's not what happened at all. Khabib stood in front of him pretty much the entire third round. Only focusing on his own strengths would have been a disaster and the fight would have been more of a mauling than it already was. It was by virtue of the fact that he clearly trained his wrestling so much that he was able to give a good account of himself defensively on the ground.

Khabib is just a horrible, horrible match up for him. He didn't fear the power and that gave him the ability to shoot whenever he wanted. Once he grabs hold of you it's over.

Third round was after about ten minutes of him laying on top of McGregor wearing him down. Very different to standing and trading in the first round when McGregor was fresh. Grappling in MMA is shite to watch and someone like Khabib should never have been given a contract in the UFC to begin with. Sport needs to be entertaining to be sellable and Khabib's style is anything but.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 09, 2018, 12:37:38 AM
Doesn't matter. If he doesn't have KO power 10 minutes into a 25 minute fight, regardless of energy expenditure, that points to bigger problems.

But if you insist, go back five minutes earlier to round 2, five minutes less of grappling dominance when Khabib was still happy enough to attend and trade with him to the extent he put him in his arse.

"One of the most outstanding and dominant performers in UFC history shouldn't have been given a UFC contract"

Intriguing, but unsurprisingly stupid, take on things.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 09, 2018, 12:52:19 AM
Quote from: gallsman on October 09, 2018, 12:37:38 AM
Doesn't matter. If he doesn't have KO power 10 minutes into a 25 minute fight, regardless of energy expenditure, that points to bigger problems.

But if you insist, go back five minutes earlier to round 2, five minutes less of grappling dominance when Khabib was still happy enough to attend and trade with him to the extent he put him in his arse.

"One of the most outstanding and dominant performers in UFC history shouldn't have been given a UFC contract"

Intriguing, but unsurprisingly stupid, take on things.

Not really. The UFC is the definition of sports entertainment. They don't have any responsibility to give any particularly fighter a contract if it doesn't suit the product they want to produce. It's no coincidence that there's not many superstar grapplers in UFC history. It's the fighters who knock people out that become the big stars.

If you find it entertaining bully for you, but that firmly puts you in the anorak camp and not the casual fight fans the UFC is desperately trying to attract. If I was chasing the mainstream like the UFC is I'd consider fighters like Khabib to be the bane of my existence. The rules need to change to either limit the dry humping on the ground or those fighters need to be never hired in the first place.

And IIRC McGregor has never won any fight by KO after the first two rounds so the suggestion that judging his power to be weakened in the third isn't valid is one of the biggest pieces of rubbish you're yet tried to pass off. McGregor has been well known to have problems sticking the pace in long fights so of course his power had been impaired after Khabib had sat his fat arse on top of him for ten minutes.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on October 09, 2018, 01:04:48 AM
If only there was a sport where 2 lads stand up to each other and try to knock each other out??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: OgraAnDun on October 09, 2018, 07:35:40 AM
Quote from: screenexile on October 09, 2018, 01:04:48 AM
If only there was a sport where 2 lads stand up to each other and try to knock each other out??

Club SFC?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on October 09, 2018, 08:32:34 AM
Has McGregor not earned enough money to last him several lifetimes?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Taylor on October 09, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GJL on October 09, 2018, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: Taylor on October 09, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 11:04:04 AM
Quote from: GJL on October 09, 2018, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: Taylor on October 09, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

It never was a sport, it was/ is a business.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on October 09, 2018, 11:04:36 AM
Quote from: GJL on October 09, 2018, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: Taylor on October 09, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

It was the same for the GAA! When the Leinster final was between Westmeath and Laois in 2004, The Stadium was only half full. The GAA wanted Dublin in Leinster finals to ensure high gates. The difference here was they could influence the Dublin product with money.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Chicago Hurling on October 09, 2018, 11:07:55 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on October 09, 2018, 08:32:34 AM
Has McGregor not earned enough money to last him several lifetimes?

If he spent like a regular individual sure. But as long as he lives like a king he'll keep running into the classic fighter problem where you need to fight every few years even after you're well past your prime and losing. We'll see if that Whiskey venture is profitable enough to keep him out of the ring. I doubt it though and he's certainly not scaling back his lifestyle anytime soon.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bennydorano on October 09, 2018, 11:21:15 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 11:04:04 AM
Quote from: GJL on October 09, 2018, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: Taylor on October 09, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

It never was a sport, it was/ is a business.
For the Gullible.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Taylor on October 09, 2018, 12:12:27 PM
Quote from: GJL on October 09, 2018, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: Taylor on October 09, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

Like it or not thats the way of the world.

Soccer will regularly keep players who put bums on seats when they should get rid - Ronaldo? Cantona?
GAA - the Dubs are the cash cow so pump money into them to ensure they remain front and centre.
NFL - Kapernick got the road but if it had have been Brady or Rodgers do you think that would have happened?
NBA - Bryant and the rape allegation/payoff
Cycling - Froome
Athletics - Sir Mo

Its all about the money and it would be naive in the extreme to think otherwise
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 09, 2018, 12:13:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 11:04:04 AM
Quote from: GJL on October 09, 2018, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: Taylor on October 09, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

It never was a sport, it was/ is a business.

MMA isn't a sport?  You're kidding, right?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bigarsedkeeper on October 09, 2018, 12:59:48 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 09, 2018, 12:13:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 11:04:04 AM
Quote from: GJL on October 09, 2018, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: Taylor on October 09, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

It never was a sport, it was/ is a business.

MMA isn't a sport?  You're kidding, right?

MMA is a sport - UFC is a promotion business
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 09, 2018, 01:19:55 PM
Exactly.

It just grates on me a bit when people confuse the two.

I would just love it if even a quarter of the people who watched Khabib vs McGregor tuned in to watch Holloway vs Ortega in December.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: rosnarun on October 09, 2018, 01:20:56 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on October 09, 2018, 08:32:34 AM
Has McGregor not earned enough money to last him several lifetimes?
yes whoever heard of a well paid sports man full of his own importance  exaggerating how much he earns and over spending becoming a bankrupt in a year after retirement ?
Vanity whiskeys(c which taste like turps according to  bloomberg) and huge entourages don't come for for free you know
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on October 10, 2018, 08:53:59 PM
Dustin Poirier vs Nate Diaz at UFC 230 is off - Poirier injured himself

And Ariel Helwani is reporting it will be Bones Jones / Gustaffson 2 at UFC 232 on December 29th for the "vacant" light heavyweight title
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 10, 2018, 11:11:54 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on October 09, 2018, 01:20:56 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on October 09, 2018, 08:32:34 AM
Has McGregor not earned enough money to last him several lifetimes?
yes whoever heard of a well paid sports man full of his own importance  exaggerating how much he earns and over spending becoming a bankrupt in a year after retirement ?
Vanity whiskeys(c which taste like turps according to  bloomberg) and huge entourages don't come for for free you know

Yeah mate, I'm pretty sure leveraging your fame to build a brand that will outlast your career is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing. Joe public ain't getting their buying advice from Bloomberg..
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Franko on October 10, 2018, 11:56:44 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 10, 2018, 11:11:54 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on October 09, 2018, 01:20:56 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on October 09, 2018, 08:32:34 AM
Has McGregor not earned enough money to last him several lifetimes?
yes whoever heard of a well paid sports man full of his own importance  exaggerating how much he earns and over spending becoming a bankrupt in a year after retirement ?
Vanity whiskeys(c which taste like turps according to  bloomberg) and huge entourages don't come for for free you know

Yeah mate, I'm pretty sure leveraging your fame to build a brand that will outlast your career is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing. Joe public ain't getting their buying advice from Bloomberg..

How true.  You and your fellow fanboys will lap up whatever shite McGregor and his marketing team tells you to.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Solo_run on October 11, 2018, 12:59:26 AM
I don't like his attitude but nobody can deny he has promoted the UFC (and himself) brand more than their own marketing department. Just look at the two years he was out, there was F all going on.

On the otherhand he has to be admired. For one, how many of us have the balls to drop our jobs and sacrafice it all to fulfill our dream? He took people for a ride with the Mayweather fight, everyone knew he was going to lose but people still watched it.

Khabib, Diaz, Mayweather etc they are all just a stepping stone for McGregor. It doesn't matter if they beat him, when he is done with them (maybe not Mayweather) they will go back to their 100k odd payday while he is coming up with a new scheme.

He knows it won't last forever, he will become predictable and boring  to watch and listen to. He is investing in business adventures and fair play to him. He would make a comfortable living making a few appearances on wwe a year just because he is good at promoting.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: MoChara on October 11, 2018, 07:56:36 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on October 09, 2018, 01:20:56 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on October 09, 2018, 08:32:34 AM
Has McGregor not earned enough money to last him several lifetimes?
yes whoever heard of a well paid sports man full of his own importance  exaggerating how much he earns and over spending becoming a bankrupt in a year after retirement ?
Vanity whiskeys(c which taste like turps according to  bloomberg) and huge entourages don't come for for free you know

I never understood why gimmick drinks like this always taste awful, go find a small distillery making something half way decent buy them out and make their spirit, its like the purposefully make the stuff taste shite.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 11, 2018, 09:23:42 AM
Quote from: MoChara on October 11, 2018, 07:56:36 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on October 09, 2018, 01:20:56 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on October 09, 2018, 08:32:34 AM
Has McGregor not earned enough money to last him several lifetimes?
yes whoever heard of a well paid sports man full of his own importance  exaggerating how much he earns and over spending becoming a bankrupt in a year after retirement ?
Vanity whiskeys(c which taste like turps according to  bloomberg) and huge entourages don't come for for free you know

I never understood why gimmick drinks like this always taste awful, go find a small distillery making something half way decent buy them out and make their spirit, its like the purposefully make the stuff taste shite.

A distillery is a huge capital investment. This way McGregor gets to slap his name on a young, cheap whiskey and market it to impressionable twats. It's been working too, as the stuff has been flying off the shelves. Whether they can maintain that momentum is a different story.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 11, 2018, 10:02:07 AM
Quote from: Solo_run on October 11, 2018, 12:59:26 AM
I don't like his attitude but nobody can deny he has promoted the UFC (and himself) brand more than their own marketing department. Just look at the two years he was out, there was F all going on.

On the otherhand he has to be admired. For one, how many of us have the balls to drop our jobs and sacrafice it all to fulfill our dream? He took people for a ride with the Mayweather fight, everyone knew he was going to lose but people still watched it.

Khabib, Diaz, Mayweather etc they are all just a stepping stone for McGregor. It doesn't matter if they beat him, when he is done with them (maybe not Mayweather) they will go back to their 100k odd payday while he is coming up with a new scheme.

He knows it won't last forever, he will become predictable and boring  to watch and listen to. He is investing in business adventures and fair play to him. He would make a comfortable living making a few appearances on wwe a year just because he is good at promoting.

Was interesting to hear John Kavanagh on the Joe Rogan podcast this week talking about how it's really only Prizefighting.  Get in, make as much money as possible in the shortest time possible and get out with the least amount of damage.  So, with talk like this from his coach, I'd imagine McGregor won't have too long left in the UFC.

(I could listen to Kavanagh talk all day.  He's a proper fight nerd)

Also, for anyone interested in the prep work going into a fight, McGregor's nutritionist was on talking about the science behind the weight cut.  Fascinating stuff.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 11, 2018, 10:46:22 AM
Kavanagh is a bellend. He's a good BJJ coach who struck it lucky with a golden goose. He's a hypocritical arsehole - champions gay rights because of his brother but never speaks a word when McGregor comes out anything homophobic. He's clearly by no means stupid yet nowhere near as intelligent as he thinks he is.

Lockhart, the nutritionist, is very popular amongst MMA fighters but is also a bellend. Bro-science and endless pseudo intellectual nonsense, which of course makes him perfect for a Rogan podcast. His methods have developed over the years through trial and error, not through science. Good fit for McGregor too of course - Julian Dalby's medical qualification, for example, comes from a university in Grenada.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 11, 2018, 10:52:00 AM
That's me told!   ;D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 11, 2018, 10:58:00 AM
Quote from: gallsman on October 11, 2018, 10:46:22 AM


His methods have developed over the years through trial and error, not through science.

Was actually gonna put in brackets (science, or lack of) so you beat me to it there...although he has something like 200 fighters on his books so there must be something in it.

As for Kavanagh's background outside the ring, I know nothing.  I just like to hear him talk about tactics and strategies.  Get a different perspective on things, ye know?

But 3 bell-ends on one podcast! Harsh!   :) 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 11, 2018, 11:01:30 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 11, 2018, 10:58:00 AM
Quote from: gallsman on October 11, 2018, 10:46:22 AM


His methods have developed over the years through trial and error, not through science.

Was actually gonna put in brackets (science, or lack of) so you beat me to it there...although he has something like 200 fighters on his books so there must be something in it.

As for Kavanagh's background outside the ring, I know nothing.  I just like to hear him talk about tactics and strategies.  Get a different perspective on things, ye know?

But 3 bell-ends on one podcast! Harsh!   :)

It's rare enough that Rogan has anyone on his podcast who isn't one.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 11, 2018, 11:05:34 AM
Off topic, but did you ever hear the one he had with the guy who spent 20 odd years on death row?  That was crazy.  Nick Yarris was his name.  The man was a complete pyscho, very manipulative. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on October 11, 2018, 11:31:39 AM
Kavanagh comes across as a likeable sod for me. Obviously loves MMA with a passion. He has done well for himself and yes he has of course struck lucky with McGregor.  Surely he is also a big part of McGregor's success too though, so could be argued that they were lucky with each other.

I am a casual enthusiast of UFC but i thoroughly enjoyed hearing his interview with Joe Rogan (enjoyed his book too). Personally he could be a bell end for all i know but i see little in his public persona in that regard.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on October 11, 2018, 12:45:30 PM
JK comes across well in interviews. He's articulate. He is knowledgeable in his field and tried in the early days to engage with fans.  He has a decent gym and is one of the highest ranking BJJ black belts in Ireland. As a competitor he was average. Some people are better coaches than fighters (insert sport)....

Outside of the fight game I'm not a fan. He is very opinionated and pushes these opinions on whoever frequents his gym - because its his gym.  He is extremely anti-church, anti-religion (mainly because of his brother I would suspect) and does not tolerate anyone who sides with religion.  Even though he is a "champion for tolerance".... He also enjoys taking foolish letters from fans and broadcasting them on social media and ridiculing the person who sent it. 

Not too many people would ever know who he is had it not been for Conor. But Conor needs him. He is a great tactician.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: yellowcard on October 11, 2018, 04:32:23 PM
Has McGregor gone into media exile since last Saturday night, I haven't seen an interview with him yet since his defeat which is very unusual for him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 11, 2018, 05:07:01 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 11, 2018, 04:32:23 PM
Has McGregor gone into media exile since last Saturday night, I haven't seen an interview with him yet since his defeat which is very unusual for him.

Err, look at his social media before posting this.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: yellowcard on October 11, 2018, 05:16:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 11, 2018, 05:07:01 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 11, 2018, 04:32:23 PM
Has McGregor gone into media exile since last Saturday night, I haven't seen an interview with him yet since his defeat which is very unusual for him.

Err, look at his social media before posting this.

I was referring to an interview. He didn't do the post fight press conference and hasn't given an interview since then either to the best of my knowledge which is unusual given his media profile. I highly doubt if McGregor personally runs his own social media content and there is rarely anything of any interest on it anyway.   
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 11, 2018, 05:20:27 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 11, 2018, 05:16:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 11, 2018, 05:07:01 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 11, 2018, 04:32:23 PM
Has McGregor gone into media exile since last Saturday night, I haven't seen an interview with him yet since his defeat which is very unusual for him.

Err, look at his social media before posting this.

I was referring to an interview. He didn't do the post fight press conference and hasn't given an interview since then either to the best of my knowledge which is unusual given his media profile. I highly doubt if McGregor personally runs his own social media content and there is rarely anything of any interest on it anyway.

You're from a very different age if you think you need to do an interview to break media silence in 2018. Lad's been as visible as ever.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 12, 2018, 09:00:26 AM
Rodriguez vs the Korean Zombie!   :o

What a fight and finish.


Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 10, 2018, 04:46:35 PM
Holloway with an absolute clinic on Saturday night - very impressive
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 10, 2018, 05:09:28 PM
The SB Nation documentary on the history of MMA, Fighting in the Age of Loneliness, is excellent.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on December 11, 2018, 09:05:37 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on December 10, 2018, 04:46:35 PM
Holloway with an absolute clinic on Saturday night - very impressive

He was great wasn't he?  Would love to see him try 155lb though.   

What about Gunnar opening up Cowboy like a tin of sardines?  Brutal elbow.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Don Johnson on December 11, 2018, 04:42:04 PM
Thought this bump would be to do with the rumours circulating on Whatsapp...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 11, 2018, 04:50:16 PM
We'll have to shut the board down in that case
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 11, 2018, 05:07:48 PM
Doesn't sound good. . . I'm no fan of McGregor but we'll hear nothing until the trial is over if it even gets that far.

Syferus will be along shortly with all the evidence and the guilty verdict!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on December 11, 2018, 05:09:42 PM
McGregor was posting on Twitter on Sunday night at midnight. Think he does his own posts. Doesn't rule him out, but makes it less likely

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 11, 2018, 05:19:41 PM
Stoke City had their Christmas party over the weekend in Dublin
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on December 11, 2018, 05:34:34 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on December 11, 2018, 05:19:41 PM
Stoke City had their Christmas party over the weekend in Dublin

Did the party have some UFC?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RedHand88 on December 11, 2018, 11:21:13 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on December 11, 2018, 05:19:41 PM
Stoke City had their Christmas party over the weekend in Dublin

Sure he's not Irish, he's Northern Irish :P

In all seriousness hes a big family man by all accounts. So i doubt its him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 12, 2018, 01:30:28 PM
Unlikely to see the inside of a court from what I have been told,  no formal statement being made or likely to be made....I will let you people guess what is coming but it is similar to Ronaldo's set up.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on December 12, 2018, 02:06:29 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 12, 2018, 01:30:28 PM
Unlikely to see the inside of a court from what I have been told,  no formal statement being made or likely to be made....I will let you people guess what is coming but it is similar to Ronaldo's set up.
I read in two different tabloids that the woman went to the police and the police brought her to the Rotunda to be examined.  But it now seems clear this is not what happened. According to the Times, she told her friends about what happened and they are the ones who went to the police and this instigated the investigation. And as you say, no complaint yet by the woman.

While the bulk of the rumours say it's UFC related, there are also plenty saying that it's not.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 13, 2018, 03:28:51 PM
Quote from: Hound on December 12, 2018, 02:06:29 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 12, 2018, 01:30:28 PM
Unlikely to see the inside of a court from what I have been told,  no formal statement being made or likely to be made....I will let you people guess what is coming but it is similar to Ronaldo's set up.
I read in two different tabloids that the woman went to the police and the police brought her to the Rotunda to be examined.  But it now seems clear this is not what happened. According to the Times, she told her friends about what happened and they are the ones who went to the police and this instigated the investigation. And as you say, no complaint yet by the woman.

While the bulk of the rumours say it's UFC related, there are also plenty saying that it's not.

Have heard from a few different sources it's UFC related at this stage. You can make these types of things go away if you throw enough money at them and people will pretend he's still an Irish hero!! Sad stuff.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on December 14, 2018, 08:52:30 AM
Quote from: screenexile on December 13, 2018, 03:28:51 PM
Quote from: Hound on December 12, 2018, 02:06:29 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 12, 2018, 01:30:28 PM
Unlikely to see the inside of a court from what I have been told,  no formal statement being made or likely to be made....I will let you people guess what is coming but it is similar to Ronaldo's set up.
I read in two different tabloids that the woman went to the police and the police brought her to the Rotunda to be examined.  But it now seems clear this is not what happened. According to the Times, she told her friends about what happened and they are the ones who went to the police and this instigated the investigation. And as you say, no complaint yet by the woman.

While the bulk of the rumours say it's UFC related, there are also plenty saying that it's not.

Have heard from a few different sources it's UFC related at this stage. You can make these types of things go away if you throw enough money at them and people will pretend he's still an Irish hero!! Sad stuff.

I know, and maybe it is, but I'm not sure of the "plenty of sources" bit

A tells B who tells C who tells D
A tells H who tells J who tells K
B tells X who tells Y who tells Z

I heard the rumour from three different sources; D, K and Z, none of whom invent stuff and they don't know each other, so it must be true. But it's actually just the same single rumour re-hashed. Now A might be right, but just don't know for sure yet.

There were also rumours that it was a current soccer international and a former soccer international.

A UFC fan twitter account with thousands of followers said it had to be either golf related or UFC related. They said the paper said it was a famous Irish sportsman and these two are the most famous sportsmen in Ireland, so it must be one of them! 

Anyway, the UFC guy is training away like nothing happened (maybe just following advice) and has posts of his session from last night on Instagram.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 24, 2018, 01:42:14 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 10, 2018, 08:53:59 PMAnd Ariel Helwani is reporting it will be Bones Jones / Gustaffson 2 at UFC 232 on December 29th for the "vacant" light heavyweight title

And this fight is being moved to Los Angeles from Vegas on 6 days notice because of some issue to do with Jones drug tests.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 24, 2018, 01:53:54 AM
Insane stuff.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 25, 2018, 01:07:27 AM
How can UFC expect to be taken seriously by the average punter when they pull shit like this and it's being condoned by the top guys??!!

They should just let lads juice what they want and fight away without it being a sanctioned sport rather than pretending to be legitimate!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 25, 2018, 01:36:27 AM
Can you smell the UFC's desperation
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on December 27, 2018, 07:27:07 PM
UFC 232: Alexander Gustafsson - Can't Wait to Put a Beating on Jon Jones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl037yNjnRU
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on December 28, 2018, 02:00:57 PM
UFC 232: Pre-fight Press Conference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7XQ2hXs-50
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 28, 2018, 05:59:46 PM
Would you ever f**k off you complete bellend.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 30, 2018, 05:06:38 AM
Nunes wrecks Cyborg in under a minute, just like she did Rousey. Cyborg looked enormous in there beside her. One of the most impressive displays I've ever seen.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 30, 2018, 05:38:03 AM
Jones wins pretty easily via 3rd round TKO.

Until he pisses hot and gets it taken away from him again. Again.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on December 30, 2018, 11:25:57 AM
Jon Jones calls out Daniel Cormier after beating Alexander Gustafsson | UFC 232 |

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW9w4fbq9ao
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on January 20, 2019, 07:20:17 AM
PROPS TO CEJUDO FOR DOING IT FOR THE LITTLE GUYS/SAVING THE FLYWEIGHT DIVISION!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on January 20, 2019, 08:05:24 AM
Quote from: Medic on January 20, 2019, 07:20:17 AM
PROPS TO CEJUDO FOR DOING IT FOR THE LITTLE GUYS/SAVING THE FLYWEIGHT DIVISION!!!

22 secs!

Stopped too early
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 20, 2019, 09:05:43 AM
Personally think it was too early but can also see why the ref stopped it.

He was def trying to wrestle but he'd been dropped twice, taken some massive shots and was leaving himself too exposed.

Greg Hardy lost his UFC debut by DQ after kneeing a downed opponent in the head. Think more down to inexperience than thuggishness.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Geoff Tipps on January 23, 2019, 01:58:56 PM
@liberties mma forum
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 24, 2019, 01:21:48 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 30, 2018, 05:38:03 AM
Jones wins pretty easily via 3rd round TKO.

Until he pisses hot and gets it taken away from him again. Again.

not sure about the win getting taken away but the steroid was still in his system on the day of the fight

QuoteUFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones hasn't gotten rid of the steroid metabolite that upended his career.

Jones, 31, tested positive once for the long-term M3 metabolite of oral turinabol, according to drug tests administered by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency. The results were released Wednesday by the California State Athletic Commission after a public records request from MMAjunkie.

Jones' Dec. 28 test had 33 picograms of the M3 metabolite of oral turinabol; his Dec. 29 test came back negative. According to CSAC executive director Andy Foster, Jones had an undisclosed number of additional tests this month that have turned up negative.

The World Anti-Doping agency-approved laboratory that processed his samples certified they weren't performance-enhancing, according to Foster, who made clear the CSAC has no plan to discipline Jones.

Jones' latest drug test results appear to back the conclusion of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, which determined the metabolite found prior to UFC 232 was a residual amount from the same one that resulted in a 15-month suspension.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 29, 2019, 06:11:43 PM
Khabib 9 month ban, reduced to 6. 500,000 fine.

McGregor banned for 6 months, 50,000 fine.

Zubaira Tukhugov and Abubakar Nurmagomedov suspended for 12 months.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on March 04, 2019, 06:59:17 PM
Well done to Kamaru Usman - first African Champion... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIxsCmQoiFo
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on March 04, 2019, 09:39:03 PM
Quote from: Medic on March 04, 2019, 06:59:17 PM
Well done to Kamaru Usman - first African Champion... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIxsCmQoiFo

Absolutely schooled TW!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 12, 2019, 12:12:33 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/8sQbc11H/20190311-200542.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: trailer on March 12, 2019, 08:55:33 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 12, 2019, 12:12:33 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/8sQbc11H/20190311-200542.jpg)

This guy is an embarrassment to Irish people.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 26, 2019, 06:30:12 AM
So has McGregor retired again? https://m.independent.ie/sport/mma/conor-mcgregor-announces-his-retirement-from-mma-in-twitter-post-37951611.html
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Taylor on March 26, 2019, 08:00:34 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 26, 2019, 06:30:12 AM
So has McGregor retired again? https://m.independent.ie/sport/mma/conor-mcgregor-announces-his-retirement-from-mma-in-twitter-post-37951611.html

Must be launching a new brand of something.

Has become a joke and better off out of the UFC
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 26, 2019, 08:32:10 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 26, 2019, 06:30:12 AM
So has McGregor retired again? https://m.independent.ie/sport/mma/conor-mcgregor-announces-his-retirement-from-mma-in-twitter-post-37951611.html

No.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: oakleaflad on March 26, 2019, 09:14:58 AM
McGregor will pretend to be retired for a while, make an appearance at WrestleMania etc. before returning to fight. He's learning from his mate Floyd.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 26, 2019, 11:02:25 AM
Quote from: oakleaflad on March 26, 2019, 09:14:58 AM
McGregor will pretend to be retired for a while, make an appearance at WrestleMania etc. before returning to fight. He's learning from his mate Floyd.

Such a loss to Irish sport... one of the greats  ::) ::) ::)

Don't let the cell door hit your arse on the way in!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Franko on March 26, 2019, 02:33:50 PM
Good riddance.

From (seemingly) humble beginnings, he turned into a parody of himself at the end and ended up showing the world that he was, in truth, a bit of a sc**bag.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GetOverTheBar on March 26, 2019, 03:08:09 PM
Quote from: Franko on March 26, 2019, 02:33:50 PM
Good riddance.

From (seemingly) humble beginnings, he turned into a parody of himself at the end and ended up showing the world that he was, in truth, a bit of a sc**bag.

+1
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 26, 2019, 06:45:00 PM
Well then

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/26/sports/conor-mcgregor-ufc.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/26/sports/conor-mcgregor-ufc.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 26, 2019, 09:29:44 PM
A fairly dislikeable character who gives the world the wrong impression of what Irish People are Like. No loss.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: MoChara on March 27, 2019, 08:42:30 AM
There's a theory he's going to WWE
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 27, 2019, 11:41:52 AM
He's still under contract to the UFC - retired or not .

And WWE won't touch him especially now with the story reported yesterday.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: yellowcard on April 03, 2019, 10:49:49 PM
You would have to be seriously worried for the mental state of Conor McGregor, a subject lesson in how too much money and fame can derail a person.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: toby47 on April 04, 2019, 09:44:12 AM
With all the money he has, I can't see him living a good life for the rest of his years. Trouble will never be far away
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Franko on April 04, 2019, 10:00:22 AM
I've heard many reports from staff in Dublin nightspots about the behaviour of McGregor and his entourage.  If his mental state is not good (I agree - it would seem not to be) I'd say it's got a lot to do with his intake of pharmaceuticals.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: MoChara on April 04, 2019, 01:19:22 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on April 03, 2019, 10:49:49 PM
You would have to be seriously worried for the mental state of Conor McGregor, a subject lesson in how too much money and fame can derail a person.

It seems to be almost cliche that this happens now
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Boycey on April 04, 2019, 02:12:15 PM
https://nypost.com/2019/04/03/khabib-nurmagomedov-posts-racy-conor-mcgregor-photo-with-rapist-accusation/
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 07, 2019, 01:56:31 PM
Brutal knockout of Ben Askren with the first blow of the fight last night by Masvidal:
https://twitter.com/NotoriousZN/status/1147709697220382720

Jones fortunate enough to retain his LH title also.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on July 08, 2019, 08:15:23 AM
Masvidal is a gangster!

I refused to buy the PPV.  First UFC card I've missed in 5 years!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 15, 2019, 12:17:49 PM
Can we not just get McGregor locked up for everyone's sake??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: TabClear on August 15, 2019, 04:18:33 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 15, 2019, 12:17:49 PM
Can we not just get McGregor locked up for everyone's sake??

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/mma/conor-mcgregor-allegedly-punched-man-18939339
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: yellowcard on August 15, 2019, 05:34:47 PM
I've always thought this story won't end well, he is keeping legal teams busy in the capital anyway.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: trailer on August 16, 2019, 12:24:47 PM
What an embarrassment McGregor is. He's a manifestation of all that is wrong with Ireland and her society. A Cnut. As is anyone who defends or idolises him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on August 16, 2019, 02:10:49 PM
I still like watching him fight all the same.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: johnnycool on August 16, 2019, 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on August 16, 2019, 02:10:49 PM
I still like watching him fight all the same.

In the Octogon I presume.

Big lad on the stool wasn't overly perturbed by the sneaky punch.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on August 16, 2019, 03:47:13 PM
Of course.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on August 19, 2019, 09:27:45 AM
Great card at the weekend.  Some cracking fights!

Nate Diaz is the most awkward, but effective fighter I've watched.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on August 19, 2019, 11:49:38 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on August 19, 2019, 09:27:45 AM
Great card at the weekend.  Some cracking fights!

Nate Diaz is the most awkward, but effective fighter I've watched.
Diaz was great!
And quite unusual to have a UFC star with an upper body not decimated with tattoos!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 19, 2019, 12:49:52 PM
Would it be fair to say MMA has more of a spide element to it than boxing?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on August 19, 2019, 12:58:04 PM
Had to look that up:
Quote
spide

Native to Belfast, but variations are found throughout the UK under different guises. (e.g, Glasgow/Edinburgh - Neds, Liverpool - Scallies) Spides have a general dress code. This consists of a tracksuit, baseball cap and brilliant white trainors. This uniform is often complimented with a few sovereign rings and the biggest necklace they can afford. A spide can often be found in estates or on some occasions in public. It is when they enter into civilisation that a spide is at it's most dangerous, often hunting in packs for people they don't like the look off. These groups include rival spide groupings, students, 'hippies', ethnic minorities and the elderly. It is advisable to avoid spides as they can get quite aggressive when confronted with reason. In their native habitat of the 'estate', spides like nothing better than drinking 'carry-outs' and fertilising millies. Often cheat the benefits system

The dole office was full of spides many of whom had little tashes. Janty was there too.

While there are many who move to MMA from martial arts where there often is an emphasis on respect, etc, you're probably not far out. Conor would presumably have attracted a huge "spide" element!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on August 19, 2019, 01:41:44 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 19, 2019, 12:49:52 PM
Would it be fair to say MMA has more of a spide element to it than boxing?


MMA isn't just McGregor ye know!   ;)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 19, 2019, 02:14:18 PM
I am not even talking solely about McGregor. Years ago I thought this as well, especially when all the local dickheads were walking about the local town in tap out t-shirts acting hard.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: thejuice on August 19, 2019, 04:39:33 PM
Living abroad the McGregor phenomenon has largely passed me by thankfully. I used to think his antics were merely promotional but this isn't the behavior of someone who really should be secure enough in life to be above this sort of carry on. He seems quite petty and self absorbed. Soon enough he'll be out of his own with only a few leeches for a bit of company unless he sorts himself out.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on August 19, 2019, 06:55:14 PM
Yoel Romero vs Paulo Costa (UFC 241 Highlights)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4aLcD72aRk

2 beasts going toe to toe

QuoteLuke Rockhold Is in a Coma after watching this fight.

LOL
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on August 19, 2019, 08:26:28 PM
Seems to be an internet mini craze of people and pub owners throwing bottles of Proper 12 down the drain/toilet/sink since the video of his assault. Certainly understand people boycotting his product, but throwing it away after you've already paid for it and given him the profit  ??? 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: MoChara on August 20, 2019, 08:25:20 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 19, 2019, 08:26:28 PM
Seems to be an internet mini craze of people and pub owners throwing bottles of Proper 12 down the drain/toilet/sink since the video of his assault. Certainly understand people boycotting his product, but throwing it away after you've already paid for it and given him the profit  ???

Good for a bit of advertisement
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on August 23, 2019, 12:34:11 PM
Stipe Miocic owes DC's liver an apology...  :-* :-*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FZY4Rr-0y0
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gmac on August 23, 2019, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: Medic on August 23, 2019, 12:34:11 PM
Stipe Miocic owes DC's liver an apology...  :-* :-*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FZY4Rr-0y0
i enjoy Chaels 5/10 min breakdowns of fights and his takes on the ufc in general, great speaker .
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on September 02, 2019, 09:36:55 PM
Chun Li won...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTcvF5LlcB0

Jessica Andrade vs Weili Zhang UFC Shen Zhen
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on September 03, 2019, 06:19:10 PM
UFC 242 PREDICTIONS: Nurmagomedov vs. Poirier with Chael Sonnen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suYKReRY28Q
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: MoChara on September 04, 2019, 12:03:13 PM
Quote from: Medic on September 02, 2019, 09:36:55 PM
Chun Li won...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTcvF5LlcB0

Jessica Andrade vs Weili Zhang UFC Shen Zhen

This was class, wake up in the morning and watch UFC to half 2, far better than staying up to silly o'clock in the morning.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 05, 2019, 08:47:22 AM
BT have the Khabib vs Poirier on PPV again this week.

Any decent streams I should know of??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on September 13, 2019, 06:41:43 PM
Khabib Nurmagomedov vs Dustin Poirier (UFC 242 Highlights)

From BT Sport youtube channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOmt0qHae-c
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on September 16, 2019, 06:16:45 PM
Anything to be made of McGregor's post about Dec 14 in Dublin?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 17, 2019, 08:52:04 AM
My reading of it is that he was telling his Dublin fans that he'll be fighting on the on the 14th December card, which happens to be in Vegas.  Not that he'll actually be fighting in Dublin.


Best guess is it will be against Poirier. 

I'd be avoiding Gaethje for as long as possible if I was McGregor!  He's a machine!

I reckon Gaethje will get the winner of Khabib vs Ferguson and IF McGregor beats Poirier he will then be given a title shot.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on September 17, 2019, 08:57:26 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on September 17, 2019, 08:52:04 AM
My reading of it is that he was telling his Dublin fans that he'll be fighting on the on the 14th December card, which happens to be in Vegas.  Not that he'll actually be fighting in Dublin.


Best guess is it will be against Poirier. 

I'd be avoiding Gaethje for as long as possible if I was McGregor!  He's a machine!

I reckon Gaethje will get the winner of Khabib vs Ferguson and IF McGregor beats Poirier he will then be given a title shot.
Maybe, but I'd rate it as unlikely.
The reference to "Dublin" means that it most likely just show promo nonsense for his whiskey or one of his other businesses.

As you alluded to, there's zero chance this relates to a UFC fight in December in Dublin!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: oakleaflad on September 17, 2019, 09:45:44 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on September 17, 2019, 08:52:04 AM
My reading of it is that he was telling his Dublin fans that he'll be fighting on the on the 14th December card, which happens to be in Vegas.  Not that he'll actually be fighting in Dublin.


Best guess is it will be against Poirier. 

I'd be avoiding Gaethje for as long as possible if I was McGregor!  He's a machine!

I reckon Gaethje will get the winner of Khabib vs Ferguson and IF McGregor beats Poirier he will then be given a title shot.
He looked very easily hit against Poirier though, I think he'd suit McGregor.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Don Johnson on September 17, 2019, 09:46:09 AM
What about him fighting Keeler in Dublin on the 14th?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on September 17, 2019, 09:57:38 AM
Would love to see Keeler step into the Octagon against McGregor as he is doing a right bit of slabbering; but I'd say Keeler wouldn't have the balls and will push for a boxing match only.

Gaethje hasn't really beat anyone of note at the top of their game and has been knocked out a few times recently enough too.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 17, 2019, 10:32:47 AM
Quote from: Don Johnson on September 17, 2019, 09:46:09 AM
What about him fighting Keeler in Dublin on the 14th?

Couldn't see the UFC allowing McGregor to fight in another promotion or whatever on a night that clashes with one of their numbered events in Vegas. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Boycey on September 17, 2019, 11:58:09 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on September 17, 2019, 09:57:38 AM
Would love to see Keeler step into the Octagon against McGregor as he is doing a right bit of slabbering; but I'd say Keeler wouldn't have the balls and will push for a boxing match only.

Gaethje hasn't really beat anyone of note at the top of their game and has been knocked out a few times recently enough too.

Has Conor got a copyright on slabbering then?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 17, 2019, 01:32:50 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on September 17, 2019, 09:57:38 AM
Would love to see Keeler step into the Octagon against McGregor as he is doing a right bit of slabbering; but I'd say Keeler wouldn't have the balls and will push for a boxing match only.

Gaethje hasn't really beat anyone of note at the top of their game
and has been knocked out a few times recently enough too.

Lol.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on October 06, 2019, 07:46:20 AM
WOW WHAT AN ENTRANCE AND WHAT A PERFORMANCE BY THE STYLE BENDER

ALL HAIL

https://twitter.com/btsportufc/status/1180710416378466305
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 07, 2019, 10:02:59 AM
Stylebender talked the talk and walked the walk!

I love watching Dan Hooker fight.  Gets the job done.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gmac on October 13, 2019, 07:15:03 PM
Conor in bother again ?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GetOverTheBar on October 14, 2019, 12:50:56 PM
Quote from: Gmac on October 13, 2019, 07:15:03 PM
Conor in bother again ?

"Allegedly"
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on October 15, 2019, 12:53:39 AM
How much shit can one person get away with??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on October 15, 2019, 01:39:24 AM
Surely the police have to come out and name this well known Irish sports star. He appears to be a bit of a menace to women.

On the other hand if it is McGregor, he does have a lot of money and profile and that tends to attract accusations like these.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: yellowcard on October 15, 2019, 09:53:16 AM
Plenty of people were keen to embrace his antics on the way up but I wonder will they be as keen to stick with him now that he is on the way down. I always had a feeling that the whole story would not end well. It is a sad story in how one person has unravelled out of control and there were too many hangers on who profited from his excesses but who weren't prepared to try and reign him in. It has been evident for some time that his lifestyle has unravelled beyond control but I don't know whether he has the tools to want to change.     
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: tyronefan on October 20, 2019, 08:05:43 PM
The New York Post names the Irish sports star who is being investigated for another sexual assault

https://nypost.com/2019/10/19/conor-mcgregor-reportedly-being-investigated-for-second-sexual-assault-this-year/
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on October 25, 2019, 05:44:22 AM
Diaz out of UFC 244...dang was looking forward to that fight.

McGregor announces his return in Jan
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 25, 2019, 08:44:39 AM
Gutted about the Diaz news!  Was really looking forward to that one.

Apparently Leon Edwards has been in training camp in case something like this happened.

Hopefully see Jorge giving him the 3 piece with the soda all over again.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 28, 2019, 10:53:35 PM
McGregor vs Cerrone at 170 is booked for UFC 246 on January 18th.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gmac on January 09, 2020, 07:33:52 PM
Any thoughts on Conor v cowboy ? He looks bulked up in pictures I've seen , not much hype and little thrash talk this time, 9pm sat week my time so I will be tuning in
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 09, 2020, 10:57:17 PM
Entirely depends on what McGregor has left. He's had one (real) fight in 3 years, sand he was demolished in that one. Not competing for 3 years is a big deal for an elite athlete. Who knows what he has left.

Prime McGregor demolishes cowboy. He's always been chinny and he'd not be able to take McGregor's power, speed and accuracy. He should still beat him as Cowboy is way over the hill, but if McGregor doesn't get him out of there in the first 7 or 8 mins, I wonder could his cardio issues come back to haunt him again as cowboy has a good gas tank and has shown ability to come back from bad first round beatings like in the Lawler fight.

I think McGregor wins without it really telling us anything about what he has left. Either way, any dreams of troubling Khabib or any of the welterweights like Masvidal are just that, dreams.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on January 19, 2020, 05:32:38 AM
Wow that didn't take long!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: under the bar on January 19, 2020, 05:36:08 AM
What a mismatch. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Muck Savage on January 19, 2020, 07:50:02 AM
cowboy looked like he was beat for the last week. Conor absolutely destroyed him. 19/26 landed vs 0/1, 40sec and Cowboy looks like he was put through 3 rounds. Very impressive although also a huge miss match. Conor very focused and looked like someone gave him a kick in the ass for all his antics. But straight after the win on about the piss water again...
We'll see a long line of lads wanting a payday now.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: trailer on January 19, 2020, 09:20:49 AM
More evidence if it was ever needed that this is an asshole sport. Competitors nothing more than street thugs. Time it was banned.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 19, 2020, 09:49:35 AM
Hard to look that good in a tune up fight. Great performance.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 19, 2020, 10:26:40 AM
Hope it wasn't pay to view.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on January 19, 2020, 10:35:56 AM
Are we all back to being UFC experts now ?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Don Johnson on January 20, 2020, 11:07:42 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 19, 2020, 10:26:40 AM
Hope it wasn't pay to view.

Of course it was.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GetOverTheBar on January 20, 2020, 11:15:52 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 19, 2020, 10:26:40 AM
Hope it wasn't pay to view.

I got it sent to my phone upon wakening up Sunday morning.

Only surprise was there wasn't some lady moaning as soon as I pressed play.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on January 20, 2020, 01:28:37 PM
Paid 20 quid for it.  There were some decent fights on the prelims so not a total waste of money.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on February 09, 2020, 07:26:50 AM
UFC 247: Jon Jones and Dominick Reyes Octagon Interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT8OyuIX56Q

A lot of comments about Dom winning lol

Do you guys reckon Izzy would beat Jones?

ETA:

Majority of UFC Fighters believe Jon Jones lost his belt to Dominick Reyes,UFC 247 Results

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NInWq3GZVwQ
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on February 10, 2020, 08:59:55 AM
Had Reyes winning first 3 rounds.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on February 10, 2020, 09:23:17 AM
Had Reyes winning 1 and 3, Jones 4 and 5 and the 2nd was too close to call and could have went either way.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on February 10, 2020, 10:37:31 PM
REYES ROBBED! - Jon Jones Retains Title Thanks To Judges

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ledIYxKnE-E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpP3ObfQBD0

How Jon Jones LOST vs Dominick Reyes FULL FIGHT HIGHLIGHTS- UFC 247

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAH0q2ReFFE
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on February 11, 2020, 01:30:37 AM
Bad decision. Reyes won 1,2,3 clear enough and therefore the fight. Dunno how the judges can then give 3-2 x2 and 4-1 :o for Jones. Must be the same ones that did the Fury Wilder fight..
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on March 08, 2020, 09:40:48 PM
Best women's MMA fight ever? Weili Zhang vs Joanna Jedrzejczyk | UFC 248 official fight highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k6Qp0cPtwc

WOWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on March 09, 2020, 08:17:35 AM
One of the best fights I've seen, never mine just in the women's section.

Joanna's head was a state!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on March 11, 2020, 11:48:35 PM
How The Women Saved UFC 248 - Adesanya vs Romero Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuAaUx0g0BI
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on March 12, 2020, 07:59:38 AM
Great headliner in the works for UFC Dublin in August.....Till vs Whittaker.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on July 28, 2020, 10:04:36 PM
Khamzat Chimaev won TWO fights in 10 days in different weight classes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIvs_qXqOWo

What a beast!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: toby47 on July 29, 2020, 10:15:42 AM
Can't imagine Chimaev will have fella's queuing up to fight him.

Watched him on Saturday night vs McKee. He's relentless and agressive
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 29, 2020, 10:58:35 AM
Quote from: toby47 on July 29, 2020, 10:15:42 AM
Can't imagine Chimaev will have fella's queuing up to fight him.

Watched him on Saturday night vs McKee. He's relentless and agressive

His previous fight against John Phillips was a replica, except that it lasted for 7 or 8 minutes from memory.
His dominance on the ground was just unreal in both fights. 
I know the quality isn't anywhere near what Khabib fought, but I thought his top pressure and control was at least as impressive as Khabib.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: toby47 on July 29, 2020, 11:47:43 AM
Quote from: toby47 on July 29, 2020, 11:46:47 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 29, 2020, 10:58:35 AM
Quote from: toby47 on July 29, 2020, 10:15:42 AM
Can't imagine Chimaev will have fella's queuing up to fight him.

Watched him on Saturday night vs McKee. He's relentless and agressive

His previous fight against John Phillips was a replica, except that it lasted for 7 or 8 minutes from memory.
His dominance on the ground was just unreal in both fights. 
I know the quality isn't anywhere near what Khabib fought, but I thought his top pressure and control was at least as impressive as Khabib.

Any idea when he will fight again?

He said after the fight on Saturday night he would fight in an hours time if anyone else was injured on the card, or that further down the line he would fight twice in one night as its really easy money.

I'd doubt the UFC will keep throwing him fights every week though lol
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 29, 2020, 11:55:18 AM
Quote from: toby47 on July 29, 2020, 11:46:47 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 29, 2020, 10:58:35 AM
Quote from: toby47 on July 29, 2020, 10:15:42 AM
Can't imagine Chimaev will have fella's queuing up to fight him.

Watched him on Saturday night vs McKee. He's relentless and agressive

His previous fight against John Phillips was a replica, except that it lasted for 7 or 8 minutes from memory.
His dominance on the ground was just unreal in both fights. 
I know the quality isn't anywhere near what Khabib fought, but I thought his top pressure and control was at least as impressive as Khabib.

Any idea when he will fight again?

He said after the fight on Saturday night he would fight in an hours time if anyone else was injured on the card, and that he wants to keep fighting quickly again as its really easy money.

I'd doubt the UFC will keep throwing him fights every week though lol

I'd say he'll also struggle to get fights.  There's not much upside to a ranked fighter fighting him!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: toby47 on July 29, 2020, 12:03:07 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 29, 2020, 11:55:18 AM
Quote from: toby47 on July 29, 2020, 11:46:47 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 29, 2020, 10:58:35 AM
Quote from: toby47 on July 29, 2020, 10:15:42 AM
Can't imagine Chimaev will have fella's queuing up to fight him.

Watched him on Saturday night vs McKee. He's relentless and agressive

His previous fight against John Phillips was a replica, except that it lasted for 7 or 8 minutes from memory.
His dominance on the ground was just unreal in both fights. 
I know the quality isn't anywhere near what Khabib fought, but I thought his top pressure and control was at least as impressive as Khabib.

Any idea when he will fight again?

He said after the fight on Saturday night he would fight in an hours time if anyone else was injured on the card, and that he wants to keep fighting quickly again as its really easy money.

I'd doubt the UFC will keep throwing him fights every week though lol

I'd say he'll also struggle to get fights.  There's not much upside to a ranked fighter fighting him!!

I was thinking the exact same
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on July 29, 2020, 02:22:52 PM
Quote from: toby47 on July 29, 2020, 12:03:07 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 29, 2020, 11:55:18 AM
Quote from: toby47 on July 29, 2020, 11:46:47 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 29, 2020, 10:58:35 AM
Quote from: toby47 on July 29, 2020, 10:15:42 AM
Can't imagine Chimaev will have fella's queuing up to fight him.

Watched him on Saturday night vs McKee. He's relentless and agressive

His previous fight against John Phillips was a replica, except that it lasted for 7 or 8 minutes from memory.
His dominance on the ground was just unreal in both fights. 
I know the quality isn't anywhere near what Khabib fought, but I thought his top pressure and control was at least as impressive as Khabib.

Any idea when he will fight again?

He said after the fight on Saturday night he would fight in an hours time if anyone else was injured on the card, and that he wants to keep fighting quickly again as its really easy money.

I'd doubt the UFC will keep throwing him fights every week though lol

I'd say he'll also struggle to get fights.  There's not much upside to a ranked fighter fighting him!!

I was thinking the exact same
It's not boxing lads, you generally fight who you are told. If you turn it down then you could be waiting a while for your next opportunity and being inactive would see you slide down the rankings. Even champions have been stripped for inactivity on the odd occasion.

The Welsh and Irish lads were a bit lambs to the slaughter for Chimaev, so hard to really judge, although he did seem very impressive. I believe there were no strikes landed on him over the course of the 2 fights! But he'll have tougher challenges ahead for sure.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on July 29, 2020, 02:32:41 PM
Khamzat Chimaev talks new UFC fame, why he wants to 'smash' Conor McGregor | ESPN MMA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrLLXCO53fg


"Tell us about yourself, who are you?"
"I'm the wolf, brader. So hungry. ready to eat everybody, brader!"

He's literary Khabib 2.0

eta: "If he lives up to the hype, they should make him "The Punisher". Any fighter behaving badly gets a date with Khamzat."
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on August 16, 2020, 04:20:05 PM
Stipe Miocic v Daniel Cormier 3 | #UFC252 Highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TS1euc3DVw
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on October 24, 2020, 12:49:37 PM
Not a chance Khabib made that weight.  UFC pulling a fast one.  Fights all on at reasonable time this evening which is good.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 24, 2020, 10:36:21 PM
Special performance from Khabib. All time great.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on October 25, 2020, 06:00:12 AM
MMA Community React to Khabib announcing his retirement after putting Justin Gaethje to sleep,UFC254

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbAsr59Jng4
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on November 01, 2020, 10:01:51 AM
Just watched the Khabib fight there.

He's just phenomenal, almost unbeatable.
In fairness to McGregor, he put up a better contest than either Poirier or Gaethje, albeit Khabib could fight them all 10 times each and would likely win all 30.

A pity peak Ferguson didn't get to fight Khabib a couple of years ago. I think he would have caused Khabib more problems than any of the others, but I still wouldn't have expected a Khabib loss. Ferguson looked pretty shot last time out though, so it'll be interesting to see if that's a terminal decline or whether he can get back on track.

Seems like McGregor v Poirier could happen in January. Not a huge amount between any of these 4 without Khabib, fights that could go either way, but should all be pretty exciting
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bennydorano on January 22, 2021, 10:30:44 PM
Changed times, proper fight this weekend and not a peep
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 22, 2021, 10:41:30 PM
I miss the old McGregor. He was funny at press conferences and now he's running about hugging and shaking hands.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on January 22, 2021, 10:56:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 22, 2021, 10:41:30 PM
I miss the old McGregor. He was funny at press conferences and now he's running about hugging and shaking hands.
What's wrong with that? It's about time he caught himself on.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 22, 2021, 11:14:25 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 22, 2021, 10:56:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 22, 2021, 10:41:30 PM
I miss the old McGregor. He was funny at press conferences and now he's running about hugging and shaking hands.
What's wrong with that? It's about time he caught himself on.

It's not as entertaining. I'm not fooled by this nice guy act either. I like the trash talkers combat sports but I can understand why it's not for everyone.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 23, 2021, 12:10:14 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 22, 2021, 11:14:25 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 22, 2021, 10:56:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 22, 2021, 10:41:30 PM
I miss the old McGregor. He was funny at press conferences and now he's running about hugging and shaking hands.
What's wrong with that? It's about time he caught himself on.

It's not as entertaining. I'm not fooled by this nice guy act either. I like the trash talkers combat sports but I can understand why it's not for everyone.

Trash talk is fine as long as there a bit of wit or intelligence to it. McGregor started out exactly like that. He's no idiot and was an interesting guy. Then it descended into nonsense.

The success and money completely changed him and he became increasingly moronic (calling Siver a Nazi, telling Aldo he'd ride into a favela on horseback and kill anyone not fit to work, umpteen things in the build up to the farce with Mayweather, screaming "smell of shite off yer da" at Khabib) etc etc etc. In that wonderfully Irish way of ours, this attracted a whole load of absolute scrotes who find that sort of thing hysterical whilst raiding their CU accounts to get to Vegas every time.

Khabib then took his soul and he was humbled awfully quick. I think he realised you can only sustain that level of twattery if you keep winning so has toned it down considerably. All the apes who climbed aboard the bandwagon are gone so he doesn't have to play to them any more. All for the better in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on January 23, 2021, 12:10:25 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 22, 2021, 11:14:25 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 22, 2021, 10:56:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 22, 2021, 10:41:30 PM
I miss the old McGregor. He was funny at press conferences and now he's running about hugging and shaking hands.
What's wrong with that? It's about time he caught himself on.

It's not as entertaining. I'm not fooled by this nice guy act either. I like the trash talkers combat sports but I can understand why it's not for everyone.
If it takes him to start mouthing and acting the dick at a press conference for you to get excited for a fight then i can understand why UFC isn't for you, especially when showing respect to an oppenent is labelled as an act. Casuals are usually what these people are called. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on January 23, 2021, 12:11:33 AM
Quote from: gallsman on January 23, 2021, 12:10:14 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 22, 2021, 11:14:25 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 22, 2021, 10:56:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 22, 2021, 10:41:30 PM
I miss the old McGregor. He was funny at press conferences and now he's running about hugging and shaking hands.
What's wrong with that? It's about time he caught himself on.

It's not as entertaining. I'm not fooled by this nice guy act either. I like the trash talkers combat sports but I can understand why it's not for everyone.

Trash talk is fine as long as there a bit of wit or intelligence to it. McGregor started out exactly like that. He's no idiot and was an interesting guy. Then it descended into nonsense.

The success and money completely changed him and he became increasingly moronic (calling Siver a Nazi, telling Aldo he'd ride into a favela on horseback and kill anyone not fit to work, umpteen things in the build up to the farce with Mayweather, screaming "smell of shite off yer da" at Khabib) etc etc etc. In that wonderfully Irish way of ours, this attracted a whole load of absolute scrotes who find that sort of thing hysterical whilst raiding their CU accounts to get to Vegas every time.

Khabib then took his soul and he was humbled awfully quick. I think he realised you can only sustain that level of twattery if you keep winning so has toned it down considerably. All the apes who climbed aboard the bandwagon are gone so he doesn't have to play to them any more. All for the better in my opinion.
Spot on.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 23, 2021, 07:13:02 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 23, 2021, 12:10:25 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 22, 2021, 11:14:25 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 22, 2021, 10:56:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 22, 2021, 10:41:30 PM
I miss the old McGregor. He was funny at press conferences and now he's running about hugging and shaking hands.
What's wrong with that? It's about time he caught himself on.

It's not as entertaining. I'm not fooled by this nice guy act either. I like the trash talkers combat sports but I can understand why it's not for everyone.
If it takes him to start mouthing and acting the dick at a press conference for you to get excited for a fight then i can understand why UFC isn't for you, especially when showing respect to an oppenent is labelled as an act. Casuals are usually what these people are called.

Haha f**k me I didn't realise John Kavanagh was on the Gaaboard. Yes I am a casual and I would only watch the UFC when the big fights are on. If it's on TV I'll watch it but I'm a boxing fan. It's the same in boxing though, I always want to watch the trash talkers. If everyone was at it then it would become boring. But the odd character who is a mouthpiece is definitely entertaining. McGregor wouldn't be anywhere near the superstar he is now without doing that. I do agree with Gallsman that he definitely became too much and overstepped the line and started to become pure cringe like the whole Mayweather build up. I was glad to see Diaz beating him that time. He seemed to start to spiral of sc**bag behaviour outside and inside the UFC. But the early McGregor and his press conferences were brilliant.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on January 23, 2021, 09:09:31 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 23, 2021, 07:13:02 AM
But the early McGregor and his press conferences were brilliant.
They absolutely were brilliant, but when you get to the top you have to change, you have to mature.

He didn't, but now he was.

McGregor has been brilliant at building up fights through his career. Mostly to agitate opponents to get them to abandon their gameplan.  There's a great clip of the first McGregor-Poirier fight, where Dustin says on camera that he hates him more than anyone he's ever faced - then you see Conor watching that clip on his phone and he's breaking his heart laughing! Job done.

But it all changed with Mayweather, then Khabib: - too forced, too choreographed, and all backfired.

But he's been brilliant this week. Very respectful, while still saying he'll bust him up. I'm admittedly willfully ignoring his private life (and open to criticism in that regard), but professionally I'm liking what I'm seeing and supporting what I'm seeing. He likes Poirier, so he's not pretending otherwise. Keeping some level of honesty to the pe-fight buildup which always has some element of BS.  Anyone moaning about him not being controversial enough is just someone who is evidently more immature than even McGregor!

Poirier should not be underestimated though, even if Conor beat him very easy 7 years ago. Poirier is much better now. Recent wins against Gaethje, Pettis, Holloway mean he is probably the best at this weight apart from Khabib. Dustin is a warrior. If he has the confidence to take it to Conor, he could do real damage. 

It will be very interesting to see how good Chandler is in the co-main.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 23, 2021, 09:40:08 PM
Many staying up to watch?

BT Sport or other??

Undecided yet!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on January 23, 2021, 10:09:11 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on January 23, 2021, 09:40:08 PM
Many staying up to watch?

BT Sport or other??

Undecided yet!

If Rory or Shane were contending in a major on the west coast I'd stay up late to watch that.
If Katie had a big fight late on I'd watch that.
I'm not sure how to compare Sam Bennett, but his green jersey in the TdF means I'm hoiping his winning Irish sportstar of 2020 is just a formality as it's an amazing achievement for an Irishman.

IMO it's fantastic to have an Irishman at the elite end of his sport. I've paid the €30 and I'll be watching at 5am. I'm not totally confident of the win, but it'll be an entertaining fight. And while the undercard isn't the greatest undercard in UFC history, it'll still be better than any boxing undercard as there'll be plenty of competitive fights.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 24, 2021, 05:44:32 AM
All that hugging and shaking hands didn't work this time anyway. He'd be safer retiring
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on January 24, 2021, 05:45:47 AM
Wow! Totally outclassed there by a supposedly weaker fighter.

Conor been shown up badly a few times now is it a case that he made hay early in the UFC and maybe he's not as great as the hype made out??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: NotedObserver on January 24, 2021, 05:53:57 AM
Quote from: screenexile on January 24, 2021, 05:45:47 AM
Wow! Totally outclassed there by a supposedly weaker fighter.

Conor been shown up badly a few times now is it a case that he made hay early in the UFC and maybe he's not as great as the hype made out??

Conor was a Great fighter. Poirer top fighter. Best in division apart from khabib. Hasn't fought enough last few years and catching up with him. I also don't think the boxing coaching has helped at all, not as loose anymore
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on January 24, 2021, 05:58:49 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 24, 2021, 05:44:32 AM
All that hugging and shaking hands didn't work this time anyway. He'd be safer retiring
Stick to the cycling
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on January 24, 2021, 06:01:27 AM
Quote from: screenexile on January 24, 2021, 05:45:47 AM
Wow! Totally outclassed there by a supposedly weaker fighter.

Conor been shown up badly a few times now is it a case that he made hay early in the UFC and maybe he's not as great as the hype made out??

I thought he was looking solid enough, won the first and then it was over in a flash. Thought at the time the ref stopped it too early but didn't see any complaining from McGregor
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on January 24, 2021, 06:07:43 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on January 24, 2021, 06:01:27 AM
Quote from: screenexile on January 24, 2021, 05:45:47 AM
Wow! Totally outclassed there by a supposedly weaker fighter.

Conor been shown up badly a few times now is it a case that he made hay early in the UFC and maybe he's not as great as the hype made out??

I thought he was looking solid enough, won the first and then it was over in a flash. Thought at the time the ref stopped it too early but didn't see any complaining from McGregor
Exactly. "Totally outclassed by a supposedly weaker fighter" is utter nonsense. It shouldn't be a big shock that Poirier won. It isn't.
I thought there was a real chance of it happening before the fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on January 24, 2021, 06:26:13 AM
Super performance by Poirier. You could see his confidence build when he felt McGregor's left and didn't get hurt.Really dismantled him.

Very impressive from Chandler too, but Hooker looked scared from the start, which certainly isn't like him.

I'd fancy Dustin against Chandler, although I think Chandler's style would have a better chance of upsetting Khabib.

Plenty of fights out there for McGregor, but his punching power doesn't seem to be nearly as frightening as it used to be
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 24, 2021, 06:46:32 AM
McGregor won the first but it looked like the gameplan was largely to walk through whatever Poirier threw him and KO him. Same as in the Diaz fights, when that didn't happen early and Poirier showed he could take the shots, there was no Plan B. Ate a load of leg kicks that he made no effort to stop, his movement was secretly limited and he got caught by a world class, extremely heavy handed fighter.

Kavanagh's coaching really has to be called into question, again. He's a yes man and has been before. Didn't try to say anything to him about the kicks between the rounds.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 24, 2021, 07:10:08 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 24, 2021, 05:58:49 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 24, 2021, 05:44:32 AM
All that hugging and shaking hands didn't work this time anyway. He'd be safer retiring
Stick to the cycling

He would be safer retiring. Sure what's he left to prove. He's more money than all the fighters put together. He seems to have lost thst nasty streak he once had and that chip on the shoulder. Was it Marvin Hagler's quote, 'it's tough to get out of bed to go running at 5am when you've been sleeping in silk sheets'. I'm sure he doesn't want his children seeing him getting knocked out either and another child on the way. Massive pressure on him to win his next fight if he does come back.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 24, 2021, 07:26:02 PM
Quote from: screenexile on January 24, 2021, 05:45:47 AM
Wow! Totally outclassed there by a supposedly weaker fighter.

Conor been shown up badly a few times now is it a case that he made hay early in the UFC and maybe he's not as great as the hype made out??

Nonsense....

Poirier is a brilliant fighter and has beat all in front off him recently other than Khabib....

McGregor's next move will be interesting.....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gmac on January 24, 2021, 07:55:28 PM
Say what you want about Conor but he has taken all his defeats and his victories for that matter with humility.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on January 24, 2021, 07:58:23 PM
Quote from: Gmac on January 24, 2021, 07:55:28 PM
Say what you want about Conor but he has taken all his defeats and his victories for that matter with humility.

Before fights, he's selling tickets/TV subscription. After fights, he's just happy it's over.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on January 24, 2021, 09:42:15 PM
Looked completely different in there last night. Didn't seem loose and how whole stance was completely different than I had previously saw. He never really carries a high guard but did from the start last night.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on January 24, 2021, 10:01:20 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on January 24, 2021, 07:26:02 PM
Quote from: screenexile on January 24, 2021, 05:45:47 AM
Wow! Totally outclassed there by a supposedly weaker fighter.

Conor been shown up badly a few times now is it a case that he made hay early in the UFC and maybe he's not as great as the hype made out??

Nonsense....

Poirier is a brilliant fighter and has beat all in front off him recently other than Khabib....

McGregor's next move will be interesting.....

Sorry I missed all you genuises saying Poirier would win the fight and obviously the bookies having McGregor odds on favourite was a typo or something? ::)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 24, 2021, 10:09:28 PM
I think the post fight press conference showed this new McGregor more than the build up. He more or less said he didn't even feel that pissed off about the loss and he didn't know why he felt like that. Dana White said McGregor stepped off at 400ft luxury boat before before the fight. He's bound to have lost an edge and that drive to succeed. That mixed in with the inactivity is a bad mix.

All the personal stuff aside it is amazing what McGregor has done and in a relatively short space of time. A global superstar and mega rich in the space of 7/8 years. What a story it is, it's just a shame he's ruined thst a bit with all the other shit going on. Saying that, give any fella around home 100m quid and all the fame and a good lot would go buck mad with it too.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 24, 2021, 10:48:53 PM
Quote from: screenexile on January 24, 2021, 10:01:20 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on January 24, 2021, 07:26:02 PM
Quote from: screenexile on January 24, 2021, 05:45:47 AM
Wow! Totally outclassed there by a supposedly weaker fighter.

Conor been shown up badly a few times now is it a case that he made hay early in the UFC and maybe he's not as great as the hype made out??

Nonsense....

Poirier is a brilliant fighter and has beat all in front off him recently other than Khabib....

McGregor's next move will be interesting.....

Sorry I missed all you genuises saying Poirier would win the fight and obviously the bookies having McGregor odds on favourite was a typo or something? ::)

Saying less is sometimes more....

It's no massive surprise...bookies or no bookies...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 24, 2021, 10:55:46 PM
Dustin Poirier....

Beat Max Holloway
Beat Diego Brandão
Beat Carlos Diego Ferreira
Beat Anthony Pettis
Beat Justin Gaethje
Beat Eddie Alvarez
Beat Max Holloway again
Beat Dan Hooker

And then

Beat Conor McGregor

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on January 25, 2021, 12:05:50 AM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on January 24, 2021, 10:55:46 PM
Dustin Poirier....

Beat Max Holloway
Beat Diego Brandão
Beat Carlos Diego Ferreira
Beat Anthony Pettis
Beat Justin Gaethje
Beat Eddie Alvarez
Beat Max Holloway again
Beat Dan Hooker

And then

Beat Conor McGregor

5 losses sandwiched in there too.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: trailer on January 25, 2021, 09:21:17 AM
Great to see McGregor bate. He has no class or manners. He epitomises everything that is wrong with that sport. An arrogant arsehole.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GetOverTheBar on January 25, 2021, 11:41:46 AM
Quote from: Gmac on January 24, 2021, 07:55:28 PM
Say what you want about Conor but he has taken all his defeats and his victories for that matter with humility.

This is spot on, despite his behaviour before fights etc. Leads me to believe, deep, deep down there is a somewhat decent human there. Despite all the ahem....rumours.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RedHand88 on January 25, 2021, 01:12:40 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 25, 2021, 09:21:17 AM
Great to see McGregor bate. He has no class or manners. He epitomises everything that is wrong with that sport. An arrogant arsehole.

And everything wrong with modern Ireland.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: johnnycool on January 25, 2021, 01:46:32 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on January 25, 2021, 11:41:46 AM
Quote from: Gmac on January 24, 2021, 07:55:28 PM
Say what you want about Conor but he has taken all his defeats and his victories for that matter with humility.

This is spot on, despite his behaviour before fights etc. Leads me to believe, deep, deep down there is a somewhat decent human there. Despite all the ahem....rumours.

Aside from all the rumours of his hotel antics throwing a punch at some lad for the sole reason he didn't want to drink his whisky doesn't remind me of a decent human being.

Maybe he is, but I've to be convinced and I'm sure he's bothered about that.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Ash Smoker on January 25, 2021, 01:51:04 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 25, 2021, 09:21:17 AM
Great to see McGregor bate. He has no class or manners. He epitomises everything that is wrong with that sport. An arrogant arsehole.
Calling MMA a sport is stretching it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: trailer on January 25, 2021, 01:59:24 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on January 25, 2021, 01:51:04 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 25, 2021, 09:21:17 AM
Great to see McGregor bate. He has no class or manners. He epitomises everything that is wrong with that sport. An arrogant arsehole.
Calling MMA a sport is stretching it.

You're dead right.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GetOverTheBar on January 25, 2021, 02:02:31 PM
Yet you are in the UFC thread reading?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Taylor on January 25, 2021, 03:11:42 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 25, 2021, 01:59:24 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on January 25, 2021, 01:51:04 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 25, 2021, 09:21:17 AM
Great to see McGregor bate. He has no class or manners. He epitomises everything that is wrong with that sport. An arrogant arsehole.
Calling MMA a sport is stretching it.

You're dead right.

Off course its a sport.

Do you say the same thing about boxing?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on January 25, 2021, 04:55:24 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on January 25, 2021, 11:41:46 AM
Quote from: Gmac on January 24, 2021, 07:55:28 PM
Say what you want about Conor but he has taken all his defeats and his victories for that matter with humility.

This is spot on, despite his behaviour before fights etc. Leads me to believe, deep, deep down there is a somewhat decent human there. Despite all the ahem....rumours.

When talking about MMA stars (and boxers too) need to remember that a lot of them come from dodgy enough background and often the sport saved them from a literal life of crime. Most have some kind of nasty streak. Dustin Poirier is one of the nicest guys in UFC, does a heap of work for charity, but even he was in juvey as a youngster. 

McGregor had always been totally different in post fight press conferences to pre-fight. He is, to put in the best light, a complete messer. He realised this was giving him attention and also was getting into opponents heads, so ramped this persona up for every fight. But it was an act. The behind the scene footagae (that the UFC is excellent at producing) shows that he's not doing it out of badness but just for the pure skit. And in his post fight media, he's always been completely respectful of opponents, having won or lost.

But for the couple of years between the start of the build up to the Mayweather fight until after the Khabib fight, he went completely off the rails. Coke and alcohol led the way for the persona to become the person. Did a lot of indefensible stuff. He also wasted a lot of his peak performance years.

I think lockdown has helped him finally mature as a person. He was just a normal big star in the fight game in this build up. Far more likeable. There is a questionmark over how much ability he has left. Will being active get that back?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 25, 2021, 05:12:12 PM
Quote from: Taylor on January 25, 2021, 03:11:42 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 25, 2021, 01:59:24 PM
Quote from: Ash Smoker on January 25, 2021, 01:51:04 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 25, 2021, 09:21:17 AM
Great to see McGregor bate. He has no class or manners. He epitomises everything that is wrong with that sport. An arrogant arsehole.
Calling MMA a sport is stretching it.

You're dead right.

Off course its a sport.

Do you say the same thing about boxing?
Hmm...
You had the likes of Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield in boxing and there was one helluva difference between them in terms of character and background etc. They were both boxers but the similarities are hard to find apart from that.
There is no logical reason to doubt that there's not a wide range of characters involved in UFC as well.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on March 30, 2021, 07:43:46 AM
Stipe Miocic v Francis Ngannou 2 | The Ngannou era is here! UFC 260 Official Fight Highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd9Kuf4dZcQ

Francis Ngannou KNOCKS OUT Stipe Miocic | Live Reaction #UFC260

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4koP88Xm5bs

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on April 06, 2021, 08:23:10 PM
What UFC Fighters "Really" think about Francis Ngannou? (The Brutal Truth)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bJAhDqBiQg

How Did Francis Ngannou Get SO GOOD?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM_TkCDv7s0
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 27, 2021, 10:06:34 PM
Just caught up on the Usman-Masivdal fight

What a show!

One of the maddest baddest main event cards I've ever seen. The five fights on the main card all had 'get off your seat' moments!
On again on BT Sport at 11pm for those who have that and missed it (and if you've heard nothing about it, don't spoil it with google!!)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 27, 2021, 10:14:25 PM
Quote from: Hound on April 27, 2021, 10:06:34 PM
Just caught up on the Usman-Masivdal fight

What a show!

One of the maddest baddest main event cards I've ever seen. The five fights on the main card all had 'get off your seat' moments!
On again on BT Sport at 11pm for those who have that and missed it (and if you've heard nothing about it, don't spoil it with google!!)

So glad I didn't see the leg break!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on June 15, 2021, 07:19:55 PM
KAMARU USMAN | True Geordie Podcast #144

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylI3J2Gm3oQ

Such an amazing interview with the greatest fighter in the world!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on July 09, 2021, 10:46:57 PM
Whats the low down on McGregor's fight tomorrow? Who's fav and all that shebang?!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 10, 2021, 06:54:27 AM
Poirier favourite but it's pretty even. McGregor has gone full **** again. He's a thoroughly unlikeable twat.

No doubt Medic will be along soon to post something in all caps.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 10, 2021, 08:39:02 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 10, 2021, 06:54:27 AM
Poirier favourite but it's pretty even. McGregor has gone full **** again. He's a thoroughly unlikeable twat.

No doubt Medic will be along soon to post something in all caps.

The pantomime villain stuff is very forced nowadays. The quick witted and funny McGregor has been gone for some time now.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 10, 2021, 10:38:58 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 10, 2021, 08:39:02 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 10, 2021, 06:54:27 AM
Poirier favourite but it's pretty even. McGregor has gone full **** again. He's a thoroughly unlikeable twat.

No doubt Medic will be along soon to post something in all caps.

The pantomime villain stuff is very forced nowadays. The quick witted and funny McGregor has been gone for some time now.

Poirier even said it himself when he laughed and called McGregor's trash talk these days "f**king weak". Don't think he was the tiniest bit flustered by any of it, think he was more embarrassed for McGregor than anything.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on July 11, 2021, 05:30:10 AM
Hopefully that's the end of that!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 11, 2021, 06:56:44 AM
Would have liked to have seen him win but he just lacks class and it's hard to feel any sympathy for him. Shouting and roaring about his wife at the end there. sc**bag
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on July 11, 2021, 07:10:32 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 11, 2021, 06:56:44 AM
Would have liked to have seen him win but he just lacks class and it's hard to feel any sympathy for him. Shouting and roaring about his wife at the end there. sc**bag

I'm no fan of McGregor but could you imagine interviewing a footballer after a leg break like that? He shouldn't have been anywhere near a microphone. This must be the end....surely you can't come back from that injury, at his age, in that sport. Especially when the end of his career looked close anyway. It's probably a legitimate way out for him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 11, 2021, 08:17:48 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 11, 2021, 06:56:44 AM
Would have liked to have seen him win but he just lacks class and it's hard to feel any sympathy for him. Shouting and roaring about his wife at the end there. sc**bag
I'd love to read what you think about the people you don't want to win  :o
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 11, 2021, 01:12:53 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 11, 2021, 08:17:48 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 11, 2021, 06:56:44 AM
Would have liked to have seen him win but he just lacks class and it's hard to feel any sympathy for him. Shouting and roaring about his wife at the end there. sc**bag
I'd love to read what you think about the people you don't want to win  :o

Well if he wasn't shouting and roaring about your man's wife I'd have felt more sympathy for him. I admire his rags to riches story but he just keeps f**king up and it makes you realise he's a complete sc**bag. A win would have been good for him to keep his career going and maybe even get Khabib out of retirement. McGregor looks completely done against the top men this past few years though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on July 12, 2021, 01:49:53 AM
Surely the questions should be asked now about him "dominating" a sport and a division in its infancy . . . He's been found out badly since he became champion!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: NotedObserver on July 12, 2021, 08:24:09 AM
Quote from: screenexile on July 12, 2021, 01:49:53 AM
Surely the questions should be asked now about him "dominating" a sport and a division in its infancy . . . He's been found out badly since he became champion!

Not really. The top fighters in the division are not new young fighters. McGregor was at the top and then took years off and his lifestyle changed dramatically so I don't think he's been found out. Porier and oliveria have worked on their game whereas Conor time off has cost him.

There won't be  another fighting or sports star out of Ireland the same again in my lifetime.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 12, 2021, 08:42:25 AM
McGregor is a rotten character
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 12, 2021, 08:44:00 AM
Quote from: NotedObserver on July 12, 2021, 08:24:09 AM
Quote from: screenexile on July 12, 2021, 01:49:53 AM
Surely the questions should be asked now about him "dominating" a sport and a division in its infancy . . . He's been found out badly since he became champion!

Not really. The top fighters in the division are not new young fighters. McGregor was at the top and then took years off and his lifestyle changed dramatically so I don't think he's been found out. Porier and oliveria have worked on their game whereas Conor time off has cost him.

There won't be  another fighting or sports star out of Ireland the same again in my lifetime.

Taking the piss surely. hes a sc**bag, done nothing for Irekand except show young lads how not to be behave. Coke head
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Rudi on July 12, 2021, 08:46:33 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 12, 2021, 08:44:00 AM
Quote from: NotedObserver on July 12, 2021, 08:24:09 AM
Quote from: screenexile on July 12, 2021, 01:49:53 AM
Surely the questions should be asked now about him "dominating" a sport and a division in its infancy . . . He's been found out badly since he became champion!

Not really. The top fighters in the division are not new young fighters. McGregor was at the top and then took years off and his lifestyle changed dramatically so I don't think he's been found out. Porier and oliveria have worked on their game whereas Conor time off has cost him.

There won't be  another fighting or sports star out of Ireland the same again in my lifetime.

Taking the piss surely. hes a sc**bag, done nothing for Irekand except show young lads how not to be behave. Coke head

+1 a despicable character & an awful role model. A vile coked up thug.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: NotedObserver on July 12, 2021, 08:54:45 AM
Quote from: Rudi on July 12, 2021, 08:46:33 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 12, 2021, 08:44:00 AM
Quote from: NotedObserver on July 12, 2021, 08:24:09 AM
Quote from: screenexile on July 12, 2021, 01:49:53 AM
Surely the questions should be asked now about him "dominating" a sport and a division in its infancy . . . He's been found out badly since he became champion!

Not really. The top fighters in the division are not new young fighters. McGregor was at the top and then took years off and his lifestyle changed dramatically so I don't think he's been found out. Porier and oliveria have worked on their game whereas Conor time off has cost him.

There won't be  another fighting or sports star out of Ireland the same again in my lifetime.

Taking the piss surely. hes a sc**bag, done nothing for Irekand except show young lads how not to be behave. Coke head

+1 a despicable character & an awful role model. A vile coked up thug.

Well I didn't mean he was a great person. PPV machine and world wide star I was referring to
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 12, 2021, 09:16:30 AM
Quote from: NotedObserver on July 12, 2021, 08:54:45 AM
Quote from: Rudi on July 12, 2021, 08:46:33 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 12, 2021, 08:44:00 AM
Quote from: NotedObserver on July 12, 2021, 08:24:09 AM
Quote from: screenexile on July 12, 2021, 01:49:53 AM
Surely the questions should be asked now about him "dominating" a sport and a division in its infancy . . . He's been found out badly since he became champion!

Not really. The top fighters in the division are not new young fighters. McGregor was at the top and then took years off and his lifestyle changed dramatically so I don't think he's been found out. Porier and oliveria have worked on their game whereas Conor time off has cost him.

There won't be  another fighting or sports star out of Ireland the same again in my lifetime.

Taking the piss surely. hes a sc**bag, done nothing for Irekand except show young lads how not to be behave. Coke head

+1 a despicable character & an awful role model. A vile coked up thug.

Well I didn't mean he was a great person. PPV machine and world wide star I was referring to

It's true. He's a global superstar who had a big hand in transforming MMA into the mainstream. We probably won't see a superstar like it for many years. A fantastic business man but a terrible role model for young lads. The early years McGregor was brilliant and then he completely lost the run of himself.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: johnnycool on July 13, 2021, 08:28:08 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 12, 2021, 09:16:30 AM
Quote from: NotedObserver on July 12, 2021, 08:54:45 AM
Quote from: Rudi on July 12, 2021, 08:46:33 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 12, 2021, 08:44:00 AM
Quote from: NotedObserver on July 12, 2021, 08:24:09 AM
Quote from: screenexile on July 12, 2021, 01:49:53 AM
Surely the questions should be asked now about him "dominating" a sport and a division in its infancy . . . He's been found out badly since he became champion!

Not really. The top fighters in the division are not new young fighters. McGregor was at the top and then took years off and his lifestyle changed dramatically so I don't think he's been found out. Porier and oliveria have worked on their game whereas Conor time off has cost him.

There won't be  another fighting or sports star out of Ireland the same again in my lifetime.

Taking the piss surely. hes a sc**bag, done nothing for Irekand except show young lads how not to be behave. Coke head

+1 a despicable character & an awful role model. A vile coked up thug.

Well I didn't mean he was a great person. PPV machine and world wide star I was referring to

It's true. He's a global superstar who had a big hand in transforming MMA into the mainstream. We probably won't see a superstar like it for many years. A fantastic business man but a terrible role model for young lads. The early years McGregor was brilliant and then he completely lost the run of himself.

It's where you decide the act ends and the real McGregor starts.

We could all laugh at his press quips, "red panties day" and all that as we know he's getting PPV sales along the way but somewhere along the line when he's throwing digs at a lad in a bar who didn't want to taste his whisky then I think the mask slips and he turns into a sc**bag we could do without.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: yellowcard on July 27, 2021, 09:00:18 PM
McGregor may have just sunk to yet another low in his never ending race to the bottom with his tweets mocking Khabibs deceased father. Even his fan boys can't put up a defence for this one.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: dec on November 04, 2021, 12:59:55 PM
Don't mess with Kieran McGeeney

https://www.bbc.com/sport/mixed-martial-arts/59071741

Peter Queally never intended to be an MMA fighter. He never intended to dedicate 11 years of his life to a sport he knew nothing about growing up as a kid in a coastal town outside of Waterford in Ireland...
The 3Arena in Dublin will play host to a historic night as Queally bids to become Bellator's first Irish champion and the first Irish fighter since Conor McGregor to hold a major world MMA title...
And so after a short spell of boxing and then doing Muay Thai, Queally sent Kavanagh a message on Facebook, asking if he could join his ranks.
"I remember him being very dismissive of me," Queally said, laughing. "I didn't take no for an answer. He told me to come up on Monday night and I did. I have a cousin who is an actor, Michael Sheehan, he's actually on [Irish soap opera] Fair City. He was training there at the time. I was all excited.

"Michael told me Monday night was his advanced jiu jitsu class. I was like, 'oh'. "Kieran McGeeney, this Armagh [Gaelic] footballer, was training there at the time and he was good at jiu jitsu. At the end of the night I was wrecked and ready to pack up and John said get back on the mat and points at McGeeney. "I'll never forget that 10 minutes. It was the most horrific 10 minutes of my life. I cannot describe to you how bad it was. "There's one thing I can vividly remember. Kieran was on top of me and I'm not messing, he started putting his hand underneath my rib cage and I am not messing, his hand was inside my body.

"He was pulling on my ribs. I thought I was going to break my ribs and I was going to tap, but I didn't. I couldn't bring myself to do it. I kind of knew what was going on, even though John didn't say anything, it felt like a big set-up." It was just that. Kavanagh had told Kieran McGeeney - a legend in the GAA world - to "torture" Queally, to see if he was serious about becoming an MMA fighter.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: toby47 on November 08, 2022, 12:53:22 PM
Good wins for Paul Hughes and Caolan Loughran on Friday nights Cage Warriors
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 18, 2022, 04:03:18 PM
I see McGregor reached a new low last night with a tweet he posted.
sc**bag.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Don Cockburn on December 20, 2022, 07:15:47 PM
McGregor is still at it. Laying into Paul McGrath now.
Does he not have any handlers, managers, PR people to help him out?

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on April 03, 2023, 08:21:19 PM
Jesus Christ 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/mixed-martial-arts/65165453
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: trailer on April 03, 2023, 11:01:27 PM
Quote from: screenexile on April 03, 2023, 08:21:19 PM
Jesus Christ 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/mixed-martial-arts/65165453

Neither are a serious sport. UFC definitely attracts a certain type of fan.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gmac on April 03, 2023, 11:25:35 PM
Wwe want to get a gambling license  crazy as it may sound
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 04, 2023, 12:52:58 AM
Quote from: trailer on April 03, 2023, 11:01:27 PM
Quote from: screenexile on April 03, 2023, 08:21:19 PM
Jesus Christ 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/mixed-martial-arts/65165453

Neither are a serious sport. UFC definitely attracts a certain type of fan.

WWE classes itself as "sports entertainment" actors with storylines and doing their own stunts while Its all scripted.   Nearly 200k attended their Wrestlemania at weekend serious money they are making and this business deal only adds to it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Louther on June 15, 2023, 09:46:27 PM
Conor in the news again with another rape allegation in the states. He seemed to be a busy man at that Miami Heat NBA game.

Between knocking out mascots and abusing a woman in the toilets did he even get to watch the game....allegedly of course. He very unlucky he does find him else in these situations.

I wonder how much this one will cost him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on June 16, 2023, 12:52:47 AM
I've heard the going rate in Drimnagh is €30k... that's for punching young lads in the bar or hooking up with women. They get €30k not to spill the beans. The local VW dealer must be loving it!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gmac on June 16, 2023, 11:57:13 PM
Going to the police should be this girls first course of action no ? Not to an attorney
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on June 17, 2023, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: Gmac on June 16, 2023, 11:57:13 PM
Going to the police should be this girls first course of action no ? Not to an attorney
Both these latest incidents lack clarity. .

Hitting the man in the mascot suit was a rehearsed set up. Although who knows how much protection that headgear gives the mascot, one of the thumps seemed strong enough.
The woman claiming she was 'forcibly kissed' against her will has had her lawyers write to McGregor, Miami Heat and the NBA asking for a settlement to avoid the necessity of going to court.

Obviously none of us know the full facts, but either way I think he's clearly a target, which he has completely brought on himself due to past behaviors. It was funny when introduced to the Miami crowd as a new sponsor for the team (before either of these incidents), he was roundly booed!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 17, 2023, 08:41:53 PM
He's a f**king w**ker that's why!