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[It's not going be sorted by repeated lockdown]

Just let the old die, only way out of this, as they'd have only a few months to live, according to angelo

Or just regard the plight of many vulnerable groupings, disabled people, people who live alone, people in abusive relationships, people with health conditions not associated with Covid, the education of kids, people who lose their jobs, businesses that are closed down?

Ignore those and put the full focus on Covid?

Yes, the sooner Covid is sorted the sooner these people can get back to normal service.

It's not going be sorted by repeated lockdown, those who are following the narrative genuinely have no empathy for those whom lockdown us killing, as long as you are ok eh, you should all be ashamed.

What's your plan on getting it sorted?

Above my pay grade, but its 10 months in and repeated lockdowns have failed, I can see why folk especially the younger are breaking restrictions, put yourself in their shoes as a 17 or 18 year old.

In other words you have no plan and just to complain about the plans in place.

You have a great name there, I am not a paid politician what does it matter what I think we are in a shit storm caused in the main by inept leadership.

Repeated lockdowns have failed because they haven't been enforced properly. It still baffles me why this island didn't shut up shop from the start.

You have to ask?

[It's not going be sorted by repeated lockdown]

Just let the old die, only way out of this, as they'd have only a few months to live, according to angelo

Or just regard the plight of many vulnerable groupings, disabled people, people who live alone, people in abusive relationships, people with health conditions not associated with Covid, the education of kids, people who lose their jobs, businesses that are closed down?

Ignore those and put the full focus on Covid?

Yes, the sooner Covid is sorted the sooner these people can get back to normal service.

It's not going be sorted by repeated lockdown, those who are following the narrative genuinely have no empathy for those whom lockdown us killing, as long as you are ok eh, you should all be ashamed.

What's your plan on getting it sorted?

Above my pay grade, but its 10 months in and repeated lockdowns have failed, I can see why folk especially the younger are breaking restrictions, put yourself in their shoes as a 17 or 18 year old.

The hurler on the ditch.

The 2nd bit in bold, I personally know about a dozen 40 somethings (a few with children with underlying health conditions, I kid you not!) who partied during Christmas and have all tested positive, entitled p***k's the lot of them. Easiest thing is to point the finger but a hefty percentage of folk need to be more responsible for their own actions

Complete ballbags, I and mine have followed every guidance,  government has not helped with mixed messages, folk are human, always thought him without sin.

[It's not going be sorted by repeated lockdown]

Just let the old die, only way out of this, as they'd have only a few months to live, according to angelo

Or just regard the plight of many vulnerable groupings, disabled people, people who live alone, people in abusive relationships, people with health conditions not associated with Covid, the education of kids, people who lose their jobs, businesses that are closed down?

Ignore those and put the full focus on Covid?

Yes, the sooner Covid is sorted the sooner these people can get back to normal service.

It's not going be sorted by repeated lockdown, those who are following the narrative genuinely have no empathy for those whom lockdown us killing, as long as you are ok eh, you should all be ashamed.

What's your plan on getting it sorted?

Above my pay grade, but its 10 months in and repeated lockdowns have failed, I can see why folk especially the younger are breaking restrictions, put yourself in their shoes as a 17 or 18 year old.

There's a lot more abuse, mental, verbal, controlling as well as physical, being locked up 24/7 with these abusers you surely can see doesn't help the abused.

Just let the old die, only way out of this, as they'd have only a few months to live, according to angelo

Or just regard the plight of many vulnerable groupings, disabled people, people who live alone, people in abusive relationships, people with health conditions not associated with Covid, the education of kids, people who lose their jobs, businesses that are closed down?

Ignore those and put the full focus on Covid?

Yes, the sooner Covid is sorted the sooner these people can get back to normal service.

It's not going be sorted by repeated lockdown, those who are following the narrative genuinely have no empathy for those whom lockdown us killing, as long as you are ok eh, you should all be ashamed.

[What exactly was being done for people in abusive relationships that isn't being done now?]

Just let the old die, only way out of this, as they'd have only a few months to live, according to angelo

Or just regard the plight of many vulnerable groupings, disabled people, people who live alone, people in abusive relationships, people with health conditions not associated with Covid, the education of kids, people who lose their jobs, businesses that are closed down?

Ignore those and put the full focus on Covid?

What exactly was being done for people in abusive relationships that isn't being done now?

Sweden tried the herd immunity approach and it has backfired spectacularly. Even the King of Sweden has admitted they got it wrong. Rolling lockdowns are the only option available to governments around the world unfortunately.

Their abuser wasn't f**king locked up with them 24/7 - not the brightest spark are you!

They also have less access to drink which was one of the main issues when a family member had to deal with it. There is still help out there you arrogant fool.

Where's your evidence that there was a) less access to drink or b) drink is the main issue, some folk are just evil bastards.

Sorry to hear that Sid hopefully he pulls through, my own parent has tested positive new years eve in care home just waiting on phone call each day!

Close thread - doubt anyone on here getting it this year - Milhouse be relieved!

[What exactly was being done for people in abusive relationships that isn't being done now?]

Just let the old die, only way out of this, as they'd have only a few months to live, according to angelo

Or just regard the plight of many vulnerable groupings, disabled people, people who live alone, people in abusive relationships, people with health conditions not associated with Covid, the education of kids, people who lose their jobs, businesses that are closed down?

Ignore those and put the full focus on Covid?

What exactly was being done for people in abusive relationships that isn't being done now?

Sweden tried the herd immunity approach and it has backfired spectacularly. Even the King of Sweden has admitted they got it wrong. Rolling lockdowns are the only option available to governments around the world unfortunately.

Their abuser wasn't f**king locked up with them 24/7 - not the brightest spark are you!

[Personally I'm pretty much at the end of my interest in it after my previous post regarding a far enough out relative that was put down as a covid death after months and months of negatives prior. Frankly it is a disgrace that they can do things like that, that bulks up numbers for Covid. Again, the man was just old, his time had come. No Covid, nothing.]

I think we should just go down the Logan Run approach.. anyone over the age of 50 (think it was 25 in the film) just just be left to fend for themselves or put in the gas chamber

We do, as a whole have to start asking when is the time to return to 'normality' in fairness.

1,300 odd deaths in NI. By end of Jan (or before) we will have vaccinated all of the over 80s including GPs / Staff which is apparently 82,000 + people (Guess which gets far more 'media time').

We are in lockdowns to protect the elderly and the NHS. Surely, this latest lockdown of 6 weeks must be the last? I think as a people we deserve to be told the expectations, numbers wise for what will get us out of this lockdown hell since they have no problem telling us the figures that get us into it.

I'm obviously not a massive fan of lockdowns....but, like the majority of the public I follow the guidelines for the good of others. I just don't have absolutely any belief whatsoever the politicians here will give us anything at the end of January.

Personally I'm pretty much at the end of my interest in it after my previous post regarding a far enough out relative that was put down as a covid death after months and months of negatives prior. Frankly it is a disgrace that they can do things like that, that bulks up numbers for Covid. Again, the man was just old, his time had come. No Covid, nothing.

We do have a right to start asking when the end will be in sight, I would obviously just try and phrase it a bit better than "let it rip".

Had the same experience, it's wrong, it's immoral, it's political, it's a game at this stage, it's another slap in the face of the bereaved on top of no wake and 25 at the funeral.

Bless, so lockdowns for the foreseeable future to protect a few and destroy the many, even a child could see how it's wrong!

Just let the old die, only way out of this, as they'd have only a few months to live, according to angelo

Or just regard the plight of many vulnerable groupings, disabled people, people who live alone, people in abusive relationships, people with health conditions not associated with Covid, the education of kids, people who lose their jobs, businesses that are closed down?

Ignore those and put the full focus on Covid?

Bigfella will be rolling the eyes - some numpties on here.

[I know work was laid out on a weekly basis, as a menu i.e.]

Problem is the comparsion from first lock-down - every family had different experiences. I know work was laid out on a weekly basis, as a menu i.e. pupils could do it or they didn't have to.  It was a matter of choice (by their parents).  From what I heard, I know some did everything, some did a bit and others never even contacted their teachers to say they were still alive!!

Different reasons for that apparently, some parents wanted routine, others wanted to keep them ticking over while other could'nt have care less about the work.  Another issue was some families had only one computer in house and maybe 3 or 4 kids loiking to use it.  Every situation was different.

At the end of the day, it's up to the parents - they're the main educators in their kids' life.  Not too hard to print off a few sums and a comprehension every day as well as doing a bit of reading.

People always looking to blame somebody else. 

Spend some time with your kids instead of handing them a f'*king X-Box.

You know f**k all lad if you think that bit in bold was done across the board. Cheap shot blaming parents for not educating their children and doing the teachers job for them, most parents are trying to work you know if they are lucky enough t o be able to do that from home. Your post sums up a lot of what is wrong in a section of todays teachers.

If it's not done across all schools, what do you want me to do.  It was done in my kids' school. 

If not, did you contact the school, teacher in class of if secondary school, the head or form class?  You hear people complaining after 6 weeks of no work...well, wee Tommy got no work this past fortnight.  Oh, did you contact the teacher/school?  Ah, no, couldn't do that.  Just went on the gaa forum and complained  on there.  Ah, great idea!!

By the way, parents are the main educators in a child's life - that's f€*king a fact.

Wind your neck in, teachers are uncontactable, do you teach wee Johnny maths, English, Irish, chemistry, biology, physics etc. etc., parents are not responsible for educating their kids, we pay taxes and these pay professionals to be trained to teach them, if they can't be arsed it is not the parents fault.

Did you ring the school you muppet?

Did you email the school?

No, never thought of that.

No Marty I was waiting on a ballbag on the GAABOARD to tell me.  Wind your neck in, teachers are taking the piss, so tell me you never answered do you teach your kids all the subjects within school, you are their great educator, out of interest what age are your kids, suspect as your about 20 not that old?

Problem is the comparsion from first lock-down - every family had different experiences.  I know work was laid out on a weekly basis, as a menu i.e. pupils could do it or they didn't have to.  It was a matter of choice (by their parents).  From what I heard, I know some did everything, some did a bit and others never even contacted their teachers to say they were still alive!!

Different reasons for that apparently, some parents wanted routine, others wanted to keep them ticking over while other could'nt have care less about the work.  Another issue was some families had only one computer in house and maybe 3 or 4 kids loiking to use it.  Every situation was different.

At the end of the day, it's up to the parents - they're the main educators in their kids' life.  Not too hard to print off a few sums and a comprehension every day as well as doing a bit of reading.

People always looking to blame somebody else. 

Spend some time with your kids instead of handing them a f'*king X-Box.

If households only have access to 1 computer I have my doubts they have a printer.

While you seem to be getting very defensive Marty, I can assure you work was not laid out on a weekly basis from my experience.

No doubt everywhere was different - Im not apportioning blame - Im telling you factually what happened in my experience

I'd be going to the principal and if it isn't sorted then consider moving the children.

Where to Jim - all schools are closed, and as for trying to meet a teacher or speak to one. 

No they're not. As far as I know we have children in on Thursday and I am back in from Wednesday. Sounds like the schools near you are useless. Where do you live?

Also, I've been contacting parents on class Dojo this morning to check their children's new passwords. A lot of parents have replied. I hadn't one single complaint throughout the whole of lockdown and I'd be pretty confident this next week will be the same.

You must be a great teacher Jim - there is no denying though their is a large section taking the piss, I have contact with folk all over particularly in Belfast through work the conclusion is the same online learning is minimum at best.